EXTRA ANORMAL - Los Niños del Panteón | Amigos Imaginarios o Espíritus Reales?
Episode Date: July 25, 2025¿Y si el amigo imaginario de tu hijo fuera un espíritu del más allá? En este episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, Paco Arias y Jaziel exploran los casos más escalofriantes de niños que ven fantasm...as, juegan con presencias del panteón, o aseguran hablar con "alguien" que nadie más ve...⚰️ Testimonios impactantes, fenómenos inexplicables y relatos de ultratumba te esperan en esta charla intensa y sobrecogedora.🔍 ¿Son los niños más sensibles al mundo espiritual? ¿Por qué tantos casos se repiten con los mismos patrones?👉 Dale play y descubre por qué los niños ven lo que tú no puedes...📌 SUSCRÍBETE para más historias paranormales reales y activa la campanita 🔔🎧 Disponible también en Spotify y Apple Podcasts.
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It's one of the weirdest things they've told us about animals and children.
And especially if they were children or what they were.
This being approached Jacob one night when he was alone in his room
and whispered to his ear and said,
If you say something, I'll rip your tongue off and destroy your family.
And this lady says again,
that mark is proof that this child was involved in rituals
since he was conceived. What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing?
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What are you doing? What are you friends? Welcome to another episode of ExtraNormal Podcast. My name is Paco
Arias and I am happy to be with you again in an episode. Today I am happy family because
a great friend is with me, a person who is always with us behind the cameras, behind each project,
and I really enjoy talking with him about these stories.
The good Hacienda. How are you Hacienda?
How are you family? Very well, very well. Thank you Paco for the invitation again.
I feel like a foreigner. foreign but thanks Paco for the invitation. One person told me once, well that person is the dead,
Lefano, greetings to the dead,
he told me, hey bro, your stories
that are coming more and more to a lot of audience
and the stories, especially that people send you,
are becoming stronger and more sinister,
if you want to see it that way.
The reality is that yes, I have also noticed it,
people lately, I want to thank you, first of all, the reality is that yes, I have also noticed people lately.
I want to thank you first of all for giving us that vote of confidence,
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And now, after so much announcement, family, let's start with the topic
Sinister children.
Why do you think, Jacell, that this topic always causes so much impact?
We have talked about it and I believe that being pure souls, noble souls,
they are beings that do not have malice, they are beings that are the perfect white for entities,
for all kinds of paranormal circumstances that are there in their sex.
It's curious because I was watching some videos that I get recommended on social media of phrases that the children said that somehow
disturbed their parents a lot, they impacted a lot
and I want to tell you about the few that I remember
there was a girl who mentioned that her boyfriend, unfortunately
a projectile of these of fire
a lost bullet, my friend said for Spotify And unfortunately, this guy lives a better life. And on the day of his funeral, the whole family was there.
And he says that his younger brother, the younger brother of his boyfriend,
who was about 5 or 6 years old,
was killed by a gunshot.
And he was killed by a gunshot.
And he was killed by a gunshot.
And he was killed his younger brother, the younger brother of his boyfriend,
who was about 5 or 6 years old,
he approaches him and says,
but why are they all crying?
And she thought that his question was
more about the fact that
the boy did not assimilate death.
And he says,
the only thing he says is that
I'm not going to see your brother anymore, you're not going to see my boyfriend anymore.
And the boy puts on a strange face, but he's sitting there.
So, that kind of thing has really disturbed parents, adult people. Reincarnation is a classic in parents who detect that their children start, especially those who come to speak at a very early age, and when I say very early, at two years, they start to formulate sentences and start mentioned it, they are something so pure, so white and suddenly when that image is corrupted or that, I don't know, when all this goes to a darker side, it especially when we talk about ghost children, because they say that children do not stay in this plane, that they have a direct pass to divinity, to heaven, with God, as they want to say,
and that those we see in this plane that stayed, be very careful because they are not children. What do you think about that? Yes, I totally agree with you. I think that these types of situations have made people who do the best or bad practices
even use these little ones to do a lot of things.
We have talked a lot about this and it is honestly something ugly because they are creatures, I repeat what I said
that time, that is, they are pure souls, innocent, that the reason why take them to them but well
in terms of research that has been done here as well as in the gifts of scare we have come to the
conclusion that unfortunately certain substances are used or things that are used by a bad handling for illicit things.
It's very ugly, but I think the stories we bring now are the clear example of what we are talking about.
I want to tell a story to start, this
story is entitled the children of the pantheon, it is one of the stories that I
I liked a lot, it is a story that makes us arrive anonymously and it was
made very interesting, it tells us the story of two people, two adults
older, Don Cipriano and Doña Silvia. Who are they? Well, a couple who have been married for more than 50 years.
They are already two older adults who live in a house where so many things have happened.
And above all, there is a peculiarity.
Their house is in front of a pantheon and what many will think well here it does not apply because they
tell us or explain to us that so many things have been said about the people who live near
pantheons who see shadows that they always see I do not know little things that make us think that
paranormal things happen inside the pantheon.
And they, after living their whole lives practically in front of the pantheon,
they say, it's not true, in my case, or in their case, it doesn't work that way.
They've never seen ghosts, they've never seen ghosts,
they're never used to living near the pantheon,
in fact, very far in front of the pantheon, and they've never seen anything.
And they're one of those people who take their chairs outside their house
there on the bench on the street, they sit in their desks or in their chairs and they stay talking there at night
about nine or ten at night they keep their chairs in their room in their house and go to sleep
they are already people who enjoy spending time together, talking to each other. So that was their life.
Suddenly their children came to visit them with their grandchildren.
So they spent time with their families,
with their grandchildren, who were between 5 and 6 years old.
But there is a situation here that changed everything.
On one side of their house, there was a situation here that changed everything. Next to his house there was a house on rent that had been there for a long time that no one could live in.
About three years where people only asked if it was on rent
but they were a little afraid to rent it.
At some point it caught their attention because a family came
with many children to rent that house.
It was a very strange family. They mentioned that they almost didn't go out, they only went out at night
and that there was a lot of murmur inside, screams and things like that.
Among the neighbors of the block, certain things were being told.
Among these things, they mentioned that these neighbors
really didn't rent the house.
It's what Mexico is known as paratroopers.
People who arrived, saw the opportunity to enter and live there,
and took over that place.
So they were people who
went over the law. So in a way, the neighbors
were on one side, they tried not to be close to them
because they thought they were bad people. So they were
very isolated from all of them. However, Don Cipriano and Doña Silvia always marked their distance from these people.
Suddenly they heard that they were leaving at about 11 or 12
at night, when the street was already very dark,
where there were no neighbors.
It was when they left, then this started to draw their attention.
When this family had been around for about a week,
this marriage of older adults began to mention
that certain strange things were happening
that they did not know why they were happening.
The first strange event is to live it with Mrs. Silvia.
She says they were close to 1 am,
she was lying in her bed,
her husband, on the her husband was asleep, and heard
noises outside her house. She says that with her eyes open, she turns to the window, to
the outside, and there was a very big mango tree outside, and among the branches, she says she saw a child sitting.
She, in her subconscious, didn't assimilate it.
When she began to repeat herself, a child sitting in a branch of a tree, looking inside,
that makes her completely awake, she gets up, sits down, rubbed her eyes,
and realizes that there was no child.
There was a cat, a cat that was in a branch looking inside.
She gets up and draws attention, since the eyes of these animals have the peculiarity of reflecting light,
but this cat reflected light as if they were, I don't know, as if it were led lights.
The reflection of her eyes was very strong.
This lady gets up, grabs something she found and throws it away, opens the window and
pretends to throw something at the cat.
She says that this cat doesn't immute, stays looking at her.
After a few seconds, the cat comes down from the tree,
walks, and she follows him.
The cat crosses the street,
arrives at the other side, where the pantheon is,
but before following this little animal,
she turns around to see it again, and shows her face
so cold, the cat leaves, and gets into the pantheon.
She caught her attention, he said nothing.
The next morning, talking with this man,
with Don Cipriano, in the morning, at breakfast,
he started to tell him, look, I saw this, I saw that.
He called my attention, I had never seen that cat around here.
And this man said, surely they are the new neighbors,
the ones who took the house, we have to be careful
because who knows what they are dedicated to.
The nights passed
and the second big event
was now the one in Cipriano.
He says it was the same night,
the same between 1 and 2 in the morning,
almost always the same time,
and he started to hear noises
in the yard, almost always at the same time, and he started to hear noises in the yard.
He gets up and realizes that there's this murmur
of when cats start to grab the sheets of the sheets
and make a scandal.
And he says, these cats are probably
behind some cat that's jealous, I don't know.
But they make some noises. I mean, people should know what kind of screams They are always behind a cat that is jealous, I don't know.
But they make some noises, I mean, people must know what kind of screams these animals make.
But there was something strange, he says, these screams didn't seem like an animal at all.
They seemed to be, yes, cat screams, but also like children's screams.
And he quickly gets up and looks around and realizes that all the trash cans and everything he had in his yard were thrown away, right?
And that several cats were coming out. Some went to the house of his neighbor and others went to the pantheon.
So he says, he was really scared to go down, I mean, he just looked around and realized that it was the cats.
And he says, I'll look around I'll go see what's going on.
He got up very early, he opened the door from the outside,
He noticed that all the boats were thrown,
But he caught his attention.
Yes, there was a dump, as if an animal was spitting the garbage.
But as it had rained, there was mud, wet ground, but on the floor there were no traces of cats, there were traces of children's feet.
How strange, right? If I saw cats, my grandson would never come, nobody would come.
It was very strange. Several things continued to happen during that week.
They, these elderly people,
talked among themselves about all these things,
and they didn't find the reason
why nothing happened before,
and after these people arrived,
these things began to happen.
One day, in the afternoon,
Don Cipriano was watching TV.
When suddenly he started to hear again that those animals were walking on top of his sheet, on his roof.
He gets up, upset because he says, I'm going to scare them.
And in that he hears the scream of a child.
What was it? Well, it was his grandson who had just arrived, it was nothing else.
It was his son who was at the door, his grandson was screaming, grandfather!
So, that's where it all went.
They took his grandson to visit his grandparents.
It was night time, and the next morning, when they had breakfast, and the boy was eating there,
he finished his breakfast and said,
Grandpa, can I go play in the pantheon?
And he caught their attention because his grandson had never asked him to go play in the pantheon.
There are children who go and play when they live close by, but his grandson had never asked him to go play in the pantheon.
And they asked him, why do you want to go play in the pantheon?
He says that last night some children entered my room and they told me,
come on, come on. At first they seemed like cats,
but they were children. And how did they get in?
The window was open. They told me, let's play.
And when I saw them, they got out, crossed the street and came in to play in the pantheon.
These two were staring at each other, I mean, Don Cipriano and Doña Silvia, and...
Well, what's going on?
The night came, they closed the doors, they closed the windows, they were preparing because
what was happening was not normal anymore.
And that night, the worst thing happened.
Don Cipriano was lying down, he was sleeping,
and he felt like an animal, like a cat,
he passed by his arm, he felt the animal's hair,
and he says he started to feel it, but he thought he was dreaming. But when his mind
started working at that moment he says no, I'm really feeling an animal, he gets up,
there was nothing, but he says that when he turns on the light in his bed, on his mattress,
in the sheets there was cat hair but there was salt. What is happening?
In that, you see precisely when you look outside,
you see precisely how a child runs through his whole yard and crosses the street.
At that moment, he says, already conscious of having seen it,
quickly turns on the lights, goes down, opens the door, tries to follow him and he realizes that the
pantheoners were moving and it was late, it was like 1 in the morning and he says, hey, as they
knew each other, they saw a child pass by, he says yes, he left his neighbor's house and he also ran
to the pension, but why is there so much movement? What is happening? He says what happens is that we saw that some children arrived and left. We saw that one of them got into his house and we saw that one of them ran away.
And we saw that one of them ran away.
And we saw that one of them ran away.
And we saw that one of them ran away.
And we saw that one of them ran away.
And we saw that one of them ran away.
And we saw that one of them ran away.
And we saw that one of them ran away.
And we saw that one of them ran away.
And we saw that one of them ran away. And we saw that some children arrived and left.
We saw that one of them got into his house,
and we saw that others got into the house next door.
At that moment, they called the police.
The police didn't arrive until the next morning,
it arrives around 10 in the morning.
The neighbors all started to communicate
because the news began to run
the strange thing is that when the police arrive they explain that the people who were there
because they were as they say so that there are views that those who take the houses
they began to shed light and discovered that inside the house there was no one. The strange thing about this story is
what were those children?
Why did they suddenly appear as animals and then as children?
And why would they steal bones from the pantheon?
So nobody really knows what that family was dedicated to. Wow.
They almost didn't see them when they left, they left late.
When nobody saw them, the whole day the house was locked,
with curtains closed.
Nobody knows.
But the strange thing is that this family leaves
and the strange things stopped happening.
It's one of the strangest things that we have been told
about animals and children. And especially if they were children or what they were.
Exactly, that's the question.
Yes.
And damn, really, I mean, to start with, I wouldn't dare to live near a pantheon. I know you do, maybe. But, honestly, I do go through all the type of sightings
that have been said.
And here in Tuz de Pec, we've also heard several cases.
Like, for example, Daphne's.
Daphne's, who already said it in his first episode.
And if you haven't seen it, go see it.
But, anyway, something very, very shady happened to him.
In her case, she said that for a child, well, for her and her friends,
her neighbors, it was normal to go play hide and seek in a pension.
She said, because it's easy to really hide behind a pencil or even saying that there was a neighbor here, I say,
some houses look like some tombs, that is, there are people who invest a lot of money and it is
like a structure, like a chapel of two meters by two meters and there were children who
as they do not have windows, this one has me and I hide, I say, really when you are
used to this, wow. Yes, we go back to the same thing.
The innocence of the kids. Exactly.
I think a lot of people abuse that innocence.
But hey, I want to tell you a story.
I'm going to start strong.
I want to start strong because I really liked this story.
And to see how the community receives it here.
There are scars that can't be seen,
secrets that weigh so much
that they end up deforming the entire life.
This story is not about what you see,
but about what nobody wanted to see.
We call that story,
the friend of my brother. Jacob was seven years old
and Sebastian had barely turned six. They were close friends or at least until something changed in the
house. Everything changed. Jacob the older one became serious, quiet, his childish smiles El mayor se volvió serio, callado. Sus sonrisas infantiles se transformaron en miradas largas y pesadas, como si observaran
cada movimiento de su familia.
Su familia estaba conformada por sus hermanos menores Carlitos y Sebastián, su papá Gerardo
y Alicia.
Era extraño ver como un niño de su edad podía cargar con una expresión tan rara, casi como vigilante. It was strange to see how a child of his age could carry such a strange expression, almost
as a watchman.
One morning, Gerardo sat down in the dining room with the newspaper in his hand.
As usual, Alicia, his wife, left him a cup of steaming coffee on the table.
Suddenly Gerardo puts down the newspaper and meets finds Jacob's eyes, who was staring at him.
Without saying a word, Jacob grabbed the cup and dragged it all over the table, to the point that the star fell on the floor.
The coffee spread all over the floor, the ceramic fragments all over the floor.
But obviously Gerardo got out of the way and said,
hey, what are you doing?
He got up from a jump,
took Jacob from one arm, took him to his room,
took off his belt and furious,
he gave him, as we know, a correction.
The funny thing is that Jacob didn't cry, he
just stared at him with those deep eyes, he didn't show any expression.
Days later, another incident shook the house. Alice was in the kitchen, heating water in
the stove. Carlitos, the minor, was su andadera cerca de Sebastián. Días
después otro incidente sacudió la casa. Alicia estaba en la cocina calentando agua
en la estufa. Carlitos el menor jugaba en su andadera cerca de Sebastián. De pronto
un estruendo de trastes rompió la calma, seguido de un aullido de dolor del perro All of a sudden, a bunch of freckles broke the calm, followed by a rush of pain from the dog in the family.
The animal ran away, moaning in pain, with all of its skin burned.
All of its back was burned. Jacob, in the kitchen, in his hands, had the pot, a steaming a pot that had heated Alicia minutes before.
Everyone realized at that moment that Jacob had spilled hot water on the dog. Jacob,
what's wrong with you? his terrified mother screamed. The dog had very, very, very ugly burns.
The dog had very, very ugly burns.
Days later, they found Jacob sitting on the floor of the backyard.
The dog's head was on Jacob's legs, but blood was coming out of the dog's snout.
Things got worse when in Jacob's room they found pieces of raw meat with meat embedded. The parents, terrified by the behavior of their son, took him to a psychologist.
Soon, the sessions were derived from a psychiatric treatment.
Jacob was diagnosed with behavioral problems and his life changed forever. Time passed,
the relationship between Jacob and Sebastian
was totally broken.
Nowadays, Jacob keeps in touch with his mother and Carlitos.
With Gerardo, his father,
he never spoke again,
since he died.
With Sebastian, the grudge is even deeper,
and all because of a truth that Sebastian never confessed.
When they were children, Sebastian told Jacob about his imaginary friend.
At first, Jacob thought it was a game, a childish fantasy or something,
but it wasn't like that.
Jacob not only listened to Sebastian's story,
but he also saw that being.
He was like a child, but not human, he described.
His skin was pale, his eyes shone in a very strange way,
but his tongue looked like a reptile,
since he was f shy when he spoke.
This being approached Jacob one night when he was alone in his room
and whispered to his ear and said,
If you say anything, I will tear your tongue off and destroy your family.
Jacob, terrified, kept quiet
and said nothing.
The day of the incident with the coffee
Jacob had seen something that marked him.
Before his father sat down,
he observed how
Sebastian, guided by this
imaginary friend,
had poured rat poison
into the father's cup.
Jacob, in an unexpected moment, threw the cup of coffee to the floor.
Something similar happened to the dog.
Jacob saw how Sebastian and his friend planned to pour boiling water over Carlitos,
who was playing unprotected in his walkway.
Jacob ran, took the pot away and consequently poured hot water on the dog,
pretending to be the culprit. Later he discovered that Sebastian and his friend gave the dog meat
with nails to kill him. Jacob never mentionedaba nada porque la vez que amenazó a Sebastián sobre decir su secreto,
su amigo imaginario se le acercó y le dijo que le arrancaría la lengua y lo llevaría al lugar al que él pertenece.
Los años pasaron, Jacob cargó con la culpa que, pues con actos que nunca, nunca hizo.
Su tratamiento psiquiátrico, las miradas his despicable looks, the closed doors in
work matters and everything marked him for life. Meanwhile, Sebastian was doing well
curiously. Too good to be true. He always seemed to be one step ahead, as if something
or someone were protecting him. The last time they saw each other, Sebastian went to Jacob's house,
knocked on the door, Jacob opened the door and the conversation went on. But the moment came when Jacob
burst out and said, full of rage, and he complains, why didn't you ever say anything? Dad died without
talking to me, thinking that I was a monster. The psychiatric treatment ruined my life, it closed the Papa murió sin hablarme, pensando en que yo era un monstruo.
El tratamiento psiquiátrico me arruinó la vida, me cerró las puertas.
¿Qué pacto hiciste?
¿Quién eres ese ser y por qué está por encima de tu propio hermano?
Sebastián se le queda mirando con una sonrisa fría y le contestó,
No lo sé, es como un regalo.
Me ha ayudado en toda mi vida, it's like a gift. He's helped me all my life, that's why I'm fine.
I'm surprised you haven't seen him, Jacob. He's still here with me.
Jacob felt a cold shiver, he ran to his brother at that moment in his house,
and when he looked at the courtyard, he sees him again, there he was,
with his brother Sebastian, that demonic being with his reptile tongue and his bright eyes.
Before getting in his car, Sebastian turns around and with a look of cynicism he says
to Jacob, and I just had to give my dad. Sinismo, le dice a Jacob y solo tuve que entregar a papá.
Hoy en día Jacob aborrece a su hermano. Sabe que ese ser, ese amigo imaginario, no solo
ruinó su vida, sino que le dio a Sebastián todo lo que él perdió. Pero no tiene pruebas
desgraciadamente. Nadie le creería si él cuenta esto. La verdad sigue atrapada en el Nobody would believe him if he told this. The truth is still trapped in silence and that infernal being still walks next to his brother.
While Jacob continues to live with the scars of a secret that he could never tell until today.
This story is not sent by Jacob himself. How is it?
There will always be this unknown about the Pact and especially if that was an imaginary friend or something else, we know that purity and nobility of children is always a focus of attention for this type of entities.
I want to tell you a story that I must mention that is one of the strongest.
This story, honestly, I was't going to tell it here.
We were going to upload it to our platform
because it has elements that are quite strong
and I'm going to try to measure them a little
because I think it's worth listening to it.
This story is shared by Dr. Ezequiel Ramos.
He is a person who for more than 18 years has dedicated himself to work as a forensic doctor.
And this story is called, Not All Come Dead.
He tells us that for more than 18 years he dedicated himself to attending all kinds of human bodies.
He makes an incredible emphasis on saying,
I am used to seeing him stronger.
I have attended bodies that come burned,
that come mutilated, that come in a thousand forms.
The aroma, even the burned human flesh, I already know it.
So he is a person who,
for all the time he worked,
was very used to it.
And apart from this, he was a skeptical man,
very rational, and always with a scientific thought.
He mentioned that among his group of colleagues,
he always talked about paranormal things
when he worked with the bodies.
However, nothing had ever happened to him.
He says he has colleagues who usually talk to the corpses.
He says, I have never done it, but like everyone else,
we all have at some point an experience that makes us completely completely our way of thinking and this happened precisely
because they talk to him when he arrives at the amphitheater, the body of a little boy
between seven and eight years old and this is what made a very strong experience in him.
The little one showed very clear signs of torture.
He mentions that in his left hand there was the absence of all the five nails of his fingers.
He didn't have nails in his left hand.
He had multiple hematomas in the torso, legs and skull.
He also mentions that the sores of his fingers had circular burns.
He mentions that the cigarettes were kind of
extinguished in the soles of this kid's fingers
and especially many contusions in the head.
All of this says that it had an impact.
I mean, he is already used to seeing adult bodies.
But seeing all that in such a small body,
so thin,
it broke his soul.
Seeing how someone had done such a thing with a child,
it really broke his heart.
And he is not a father.
At that time he was not a father at that time.
But how difficult it is to see such a thing.
It is very difficult to know or assimilate who hurt a being of light.
He mentions that he did not ask.
He mentions that sometimes it is good to simply not know. a to clean some wounds, wash some wounds with saline solution,
oxygenated water, he also mentions the use of formol,
the use of sodium hypochlorite, isopropyl alcohol, gases,
he started to clean every wound, to heal or try to see that this body
seemed to be in peace as much as possible.
There is a moment after a few hours where he must go for more elements like gauze and he goes, he goes about five minutes.
When he returns, he realizes something.
The arms that used to hang from the child
were now hanging on his chest.
Something very strange, but he is used to
obviously
being present when there are post-mortem movements.
There are certain bodies that even emit
sounds or have these reflections.
And he says, well, it's normal but it's strange
that the two arms have been accommodated precisely in the chest. When he
again tries to move it to accommodate it, he realizes something that left him so
marked, he says that he stays looking at his face. He had already cleaned his face, he had already left it well.
When he realizes that a tear was coming out of his left eye,
he keeps looking and realizes how that tear runs through his entire cheek, until it falls.
And in that, there is a sound that is being emitted, I was in the middle of the night, and I was in the middle of the night, and I was in the middle of the night,
and I was in the middle of the night,
and I was in the middle of the night,
and I was in the middle of the night,
and I was in the middle of the night,
and I was in the middle of the night,
and I was in the middle of the night,
and I was in the middle of the night,
and I was in the middle of the night,
and I was in the middle of the night,
and I was in the middle of the night, and it was just like... something like that.
B****.
He says that at that moment...
Well, yes, there are moments where certain bodies,
because of the amount of chemicals they have
and what is happening inside,
I mean, yes, they start to free themselves,
but this was already turning very dark,
it was becoming quite sinister.
He rushed, he finished, he did it as fast as he could,
and obviously the best thing,
he gives it to the funeral for this to be delivered to his relatives.
He keeps everything, he washes his hands, he disinfects himself,
and decides to go home.
When he arrives, he gets in, takes a shower, and goes to go to his house. He gets in, takes a shower and goes to sleep.
At this point, he started having strange dreams
that first night.
This dream was first a nightmare
where he saw in his dreams this child
who was violently beaten by adults.
In his dreams he saw how the child was screaming and saying,
Mom, no, Mom, no.
And in his dreams he saw how his mother was the one who caused so much damage.
He never asked what happened to the child, but in his dreams he
sensed that the one who had done all this had been his own family. He woke up
sweating, disturbed, with his heart racing, his wife said to him, are you okay?
Yes, he only had a nightmare, but from that moment on things started to be
a little strange.
He said that there were nights when he couldn't sleep, he was insomnia.
And in his thoughts, he saw that child's face with that tear.
There were moments when he started to cry, feeling great sadness.
And at the same time, he heard a person how outside the hallway of his bedroom
a person passed by and he heard the classic sound of barefoot feet
how a person is heard when he walks with his feet
totally barefoot he went out thought that someone had entered there was no one had no children
he only lived with his wife and he began to experience that kind of situation
there were times when he woke up, even once he woke up very disturbed,
he went to the bathroom and realized that when he reached the bathroom mirror,
it was covered with steam, but there were little hands marked in his mirror,
things that he didn't understand. How did those hands get there?
At work, things, the doors that he left closed were open, things were changing place.
Something was happening and he said, this cannot happen. I have been doing my job for so many years,
this has never happened to me, it must have an explanation, but nothing, nothing really had an explanation.
The strongest thing was that one time he finishes his shift, goes to his locker room,
opens to store some things and discovers that there is a gauze in his locker room with blood.
A gauze that already looked old, that already had time.
Obviously he raised the report, who is playing jokes on me? Who did it?
They never knew. In fact, the cameras never recorded someone
who opened his locker, they didn't steal anything from him,
they just left a house.
This began to intensify, he was not at peace.
And every time he closed his eyes to sleep,
he saw the face of this little boy in his dreams.
He, being a skeptical person, a non-believer,
resigned, seeking help with a lady, a friend of his mother,
who was dedicated to these spiritual issues.
He, up to that point, still skeptical, but also at the same time, already tired, already wanting to sleep in peace,
went in search of this lady, talking to her. He said something you. He doesn't know he was dead.
He doesn't know.
And that's why he started to follow you.
Because he says that you saw him.
And since then you've followed him.
And the woman started to say,
Have you noticed this?
He practically clapped for everything.
He said, yes. Yes, yes, I have noticed that these things happen, I see his hands marked in my bathroom, it is he, so that he could transcend, accompanied by a prayer.
This was going to be done at the entrance of his house, symbolizing the exit,
that he had to leave, and he said, I felt totally stupid doing all this,
but I was already tired of experimenting with things that had no explanation.
I did it.
Magically, I was able to sleep that night.
I stopped seeing this child's face.
But it's curious because it says,
I, being an skeptical, non-believer, today I dare to say that I believe in all this
and every time I receive the body of an infant,
again, first of all, I do that prayer in which I mention
nothing goes with me and I proceed to work and I have done it for so many years
more without having problems as they say out there something hit him hey no manches how strong
we have had several stories of both forensic and em embalmers, who have this...
I don't know, this... I don't know how to call it.
This contact with the kids,
especially with their souls.
And, well,
to the extent of a forensic, to see
that feeling of the kids,
I think that's where this chemistry between them came from. to see that feeling of the children.
I think that's where this chemistry between them happened. That's why this attachment.
Fortunately, I say to Lorenzo,
with this prayer, I think it will help.
I don't know if it will only work for children
or really for any type of person,
but it's very sad, it's very sad.
I get very sentimental, the truth, when
independently of the fact that they talk about children, they have a better life. That's how it is,
it's like something very sad but well, we know that today humanity is, and damn,
not to say very bad words, it's bad.
Look, well, once I want to send send a special greeting to Doña Felicia,
because that story reminded me a lot of one that she also had,
and also the child.
Yes, it's true.
She followed her.
Yes, it's true.
And she still saw it.
That's really something so strong.
A greeting to Doña Feliche.
Well, look, I want to tell you this next story,
which I also liked, I liked it a lot.
And I think we're going to leave a little bit aside these tragedies, let's call it that,
where children are involved.
But hey, that story also has to do with a child, but it goes further.
How do I explain it to you?
Sometimes we believe that we know people who are closer to us, sometimes we even think we know ourselves.
But there are moments when something silently enters and takes control of one. That is the story of Patricia and what she really lived during those days when she thought it was just a nightmare.
Patricia lived with her 9-year-old son Julio in a modest apartment in a building where her brother Luis also lived.
her brother Luis. He was two years old when he had already divorced his father in July, and since then, mother and son were inseparable, sharing laughter and confidences, very united.
Often, when they returned home, they passed through Luis' apartment to talk or have dinner.
On several occasions it was like that. Everything seemed normal, nothing happened.
One Saturday, while they were eating together, Luis, with an unusual glow in his eyes, confesses
to Patricia that he had been attending a congregation for months. He talked about a place where he
saw new things, met people, and felt that the meaning of her life was practically changing.
Patricia was raised in a family that always made fun of the spiritual,
she let go of a shell thinking it was a joke.
Her parents, while they lived, always said that those things were nonsense.
Luis, somewhat nervous about his sister's reaction,
smiled and said,
I would like you to accompany me.
Patricia, seeing the seriousness of her brother,
although skeptical,
accepted the invitation,
more than pleased,
that for an interest really to go.
The next day, the three attend the congregation.
Patricia did not seem at all well.
The songs, the prayers and the dynamics seemed a little convincing.
However, Julio, who had problems in school to have friends, took him enthusiastically
for all the children he met, played and well.
The next week Luis invited them again, but Patricia, the truth, did not want to go anymore,
but he did allow his son Julio to go with his uncle.
He did not bother him, but she told him that she gave him time to do his homework, and
he saw his son happy, happy to be living with more children.
With the passing of the week, Patricia begins to notice certain strange behaviors of Julio.
The child, before being open and talkative, begins to return distant.
When she entered Julio's room, he found excuses to leave.
He avoided his gaze, barely talking to her.
One afternoon, the scene was disturbing.
Julio was sitting in the room, with his gaze fixed on the wall,
motionless as if he were in trance.
His eyes shone, crystal clear, like at the edge of tears. in trance. Sus ojos brillaban, cristalinos, como al borde del llanto.
¿Te sientes bien, hijo? le pregunta Patricia.
Julio, sin apartar la vista de la pared, asintió lentamente.
Le dice, Patricia, hijo, mírame, le vuelve a insistir, pero él permaneció estático.
Ella le dice, te he hecho algo, ¿por qué are you avoiding me? We've always been close.
That's when Julio, with a strange voice, turns around and says,
You are not my mother.
A resonant crackling sound in the house.
Patricia tried to take her son, but an invisible force stopped her.
Suddenly that energy felt that it was fading as if something was turning it off. His eyelids
became heavy and a deep sleep invaded him. When he opened his eyes, he was lying in his bedroom. The house was covered in a terrible darkness,
as if the windows had been sealed.
He barely could distinguish the furniture.
He walked to the fourth of July, whispering his name.
Julio, Julio.
A grunt emerged from the darkness. Julio Un gruñido emerge desde la oscuridad al llegar a la puerta vio la silueta de su hijo inmóvil
Julio mi niño ven con mamá
dijo patricia
Mientras lagrimas rodaban de la mejilla del niño
de repente
Julio desaparece
Y patricia Suddenly, Julio disappears and Patricia falls unconscious. Suddenly Julio opens his mouth and an inhuman deafening sound fills the room.
The pain in Patricia's ears was unbearable to the point that she fainted.
When she woke up she realized that she was in her son's bed, paralyzed. al grau de que se desmaya. Al despertar se da cuenta que estaba en la cama de su hijo,
paralizada, no podía gritar ni moverse, pero en el pie de la cama estaba su hijo parado.
Su hijo la observaba desde los pies de la cama que le heló hasta los huesos, that froze to the bones, a look that he did not recognize. Behind him, a morphed figure
that began to believe and expand like a living shadow. Furious, at that moment, he said,
Who are you? Leave me alone. Leave him alone, he screams with all his might. At that moment,
a blinding light hits his face. When I opened my eyes, the light of the sun entered through sus fuerzas. En ese instante una luz cegadora le pega en el rostro. Al abrir los ojos,
la luz del sol entraba por las ventanas del cuarto de julio. Confundida se levantó, llamando
a su hijo. En eso escucho un murmullo que la lleva a la sala. Allí encuentra su hermano
Luis con un grupo de desconocidos, tomados de la mano
en un círculo. Ella furiosa gritó, ¿qué están haciendo? ¿Dónde está mi hijo? ¿Qué
hacen aquí? Su hermano se acercó para abrazarla y ella lo empujó. ¿Qué le han hecho to Julio? Since you took him to that place, he has changed and strange things are happening here.
Luis calmly replied, Julio is at my house, he is fine, but how are you?
Patricia trembling with rage, demanded that everyone leave her house and bring her son.
Suddenly, her legs began to tremble, weakening her to the point that she fell to the ground
crying.
What are they doing?
What are they doing?
Seconds later, she fainted. is has Luis only sighs and says, 4 days ago, Julio came down to my apartment terrified.
He said,
You came to the living room, dragging yourself, with your eyes blank,
grunting like an animal.
He tried to hide in his room,
but you followed him,
making noise,
that he was terrified.
In his innocence,
he asked God for help
and something curiously calmed you.
When I came to see you,
you were not your sister.
I had to call the people
in the congregation
to pray for you.
During the prayers,
you vomited four times
and you had some screams of beasts.
In the end, you expelled some blood-stained hair balls.
You've been sleeping for four days since then.
Julio told me that at night he saw something enter your mouth.
It wasn't Julio who had changed, it was her. The times she avoided Patricia was when she had demonstrations of dolls.
The roars Patricia heard were from herself.
She still doesn't know how a demon lived inside her and that her greatest fear was not to lose her daughter but to become someone
that he no longer recognized as a mother. This story was sent to us by Julio, who
today is more than 25 years old, he told us, and that makes us come to this story of
an event that marked his life completely, since all that transition after the and to make his father, in a way, pay for the consequences.
But karma came to her, and for a short time,
it took him, as we say in Mexico, between the legs to himself.
Just as I said at the beginning,
children are perfect white for demonic entities and so on.
But, well, call it the hand of God, etc.
But the nobility and the angel that children have,
I think it is also something fundamental,
that even the little that he learned in this church,
in this congregation,
it helped to help his mother on one occasion.
And the confusion, right?
That the child has something,
but it was the opposite.
Exactly.
I remembered an anecdote
that was becoming very familiar.
Let's see.
A person who goes with his mom
to have a clean-up,
and the mom was fine,
and the one who was accompanying her was the one who was...
Yes, dude. Yes, that mean, that's a local joke.
Greetings to my wife.
Well, it wasn't her, it was her mom.
So, in a quick context, my wife's grandmother had a problem, a disease,
very ugly, very, very strange.
And normally, the medication didn't work anymore.
And I remember that on that occasion, my wife told me,
my mother-in-law took her to a...
to a woman, a nurse.
But the curious thing, and made a lot of people go crazy
was that when the lady comes in, my wife's grandmother,
they tell my mother-in-law,
and she says, you know what?
don't go because we came for you.
I said, what? My mother-in-law?
What? For me?
Yes, because you bring something.
They finish with my grandmother and they come back for my mother-in-law.
And my mother-in-law was already uncomfortable.
So, in order not to make the long story short, they end up grabbing her like between four people, they mentioned.
They mentioned that there were four people holding her.
And that the strength she really had at that moment was supernatural.
I mean, she was able to handle all those people. to Well, the most affected, right? In terms of the spiritual issue, but yes, that anecdote
My wife already told it, being one of the chapters that she was here at the beginning, about two years ago.
But they submitted her because what I remember that she told is that
The lady had strength, I mean, she had a lot of strength
But how curious, because she was just accompanying and it turns out that there
I say, yes, the story was very good.
Ah, she's been here for about mean, that story was pretty good.
It's been like two years since they told it here.
Yes, in fact, he already told it.
I want to end with a story that,
really, has no end,
well, complete, I'll say it.
He's a person who is asking us for help
and wants to share what us what he is living.
This story is called the shadow of Natanael.
Who is Natanael? You are going to know who Natanael is. But for this I want to tell you the context of Carla.
Carla is the one who shares the story with us.
And well, her husband Miguel is a couple who have been married for 25 years. Carla is about to turn 50.
And here there was a question with them both. For a long time they were looking to get pregnant.
Unfortunately, it was never possible. They went through multiple treatments, they both went into depression, and very painful situations.
Carla tells us that this issue brought her some kind of insecurity,
because she saw how her husband played with her nephews, with the children of her brothers, how she hugged them, how he wanted to be a father,
and she felt guilty for not being able to give her what she longed for,
that she was a child.
On many occasions she cried in silence,
there were occasions where it seemed that she was coming, or that there was something,
but the only thing that happened was that those pregnancy tests were accumulating,
one after the other, all negative.
This caused many problems in them, insecurities.
She even told her husband,
I give you and I grant you the right
to end up well well in good terms
because I can't give you a child and I know you long for it, go ahead, I give you, I mean I understand
and he said no, I don't care, I love you and well, this, I mean the worst thing was like in the first 10 years of marriage. And then they resigned.
But there was always the little bit of wanting to be parents.
There was a time when they, being people who have worked their whole lives,
they saved money and they decided, you know what?
Well, we already retired, let's go travel.
Let's enjoy our time together,
we were going to get to know the Republic,
because they are from here, from Mexico.
And they started going to different parts of Mexico,
to different states, from the north to the south.
They arrived in a area of Oaxaca.
They call it a magical town. A place where, well, the truth is, it has good roads,
good old streets, but it's a place with too much poverty. Many families, many children
asking for help on the street, asking for money, men, women, old people. Something very sad, a very, very sad situation.
They arrived and stayed close to what they,
well, what is known here as the village's basement.
And they went to eat at a very familiar restaurant.
In this place where they go, there was a couple with nine children.
And the tenth had two or three months to be born.
That house was full of children.
And they tell us that they felt like they lived poorly, in great poverty.
The children went out and agreed to go to the park to ask for money while their parents were there.
They were impressed and they made a comment that maybe many people don't like.
But she confessed it to me and said, I discovered that life is unfair. We can give her a decent life,
and we can't have children.
They stayed there, they were talking with the lady,
and the conversation came out.
Because she said, you have many children.
Yes, I have many children.
How many do you have?
Well, with the youngest one, ten.
At that moment, they started questioning a little,
and how do they take care of and keep ten children?
Well, they are the ones that God wanted to give us,
and we live happily, and we lack many things,
but we live happily and we lack many things but we live happily.
Although the truth, for this last child, I do feel that we are going through bad times
because he started to say certain things about the child having certain pathologies
that made him spend more money. And it is at that moment that Carla tells him,
and you would be willing, you would be willing to give it to me,
I would take care of it as if it were my son,
and I would love it as if it were my son.
The parents of that baby
stood there looking at each other.
They didn't say anything, they just stood there in silence.
And he says again, think about it.
We have everything to give him a good life,
a decent life, to give him studies.
Tomorrow he will be a great professional like us.
They told him that they were going to think about it.
For everyone's context, there are areas
in the south and southeast of Mexico
where until today, they give away children.
And the next day they arrived.
And yes, they decided to give them that baby.
And that child was the one they named Natanael.
They, the couple Carla and her husband, super happy,
they were finally seeing that dream materialized,
that child that they longed for so much and that somehow or another
came and that filled their homes and hearts with too much happiness.
The child adapted very quickly, they bought him too much clothes, they began to invest
a lot, they began to take him to the pediatrician, There was a problem with malnutrition in that baby.
They started buying him expensive formulas, clothes, diapers.
Life had changed them.
Months passed and something curious happened.
That child didn't bark.
He just sat down one day,
he leaned on something and started walking.
Since he was little, this he started to show some advanced skills
and a very mature behavior, too mature for his age.
He spoke two years and at three years old,
he could talk with anyone. But at that age, he also began to show certain things that bothered him.
Like what?
There were times when this child stood in front of the wall
and when he saw his shadow, he pointed with his little finger and said,
My dad, referring to the shadow.
Carla laughed and said, no, son, your dad is here.
He was next to them. It was made them something funny.
Let's call it.
The months went by and something that I was omitting.
This boy had a brand or has a brand on his back,
a lunar that has a very peculiar mark because it seems
to form like a star. They were very curious, they never gave it the greatest relevance,
but something that caught their attention is that this child at such an early age will start
showing certain signs of maturity,
as if he were a little adult.
Let's put it this way,
the detail is that this child would smile very rarely,
he was very quiet,
he would spend a lot of time looking at the animals,
looking at the yard,
he wouldn't go out, he wouldn't play,
he had a very calm temperament.
Let's call it that.
His face was very expressive.
Months passed by and Carla and her husband Miguel
said that they started to have certain situations
that were isolating themselves from each other.
The fact of having that child, well, started to cause them to have, well,
let's call it connection problems. The child rejected his father, Miguel,
and Carla asked him quite strange questions, like, what's after death?
And things like that. And they did not know what was happening.
The months went by, Natanael turned 6 years old and when he turned 6 years old they began to discover something.
This boy went out to the patio to play. They did not pay him so much attention that he was doing because he was in a safe place.
Until they discovered that this boy was catching little birds, crows,
he managed to catch them somehow and he killed them.
He made them hurt, he started...
Obviously they didn't scold him, but he said,
I'm curious to know how he is inside. And they realized that he didn't,
he didn't mutate, he could have hands full of blood and he didn't feel,
what I think any child when he sees his scare or things like that, he didn't. And always his very dark, very serious,
inexpressive semblance, they started taking him to therapy, to the psychologist, they started
to invert, and they said, it's just that he has nothing, he's just a very shy kid. They asked him why he was doing this.
But when he was in the psychologist's office, he answered other things.
He denied everything. But when they questioned him at his house,
he said, I want to know how he is inside.
I want to know how his blood smells.
That kind of stuff.
What a mess. So they, as a couple, started having problems.
They didn't know if the problem was coming from them or the boy.
They didn't know what was happening.
It was also quite strange at school.
He didn't have friends, just sitting. This is a true story. It happened right here in my town. One night, 17 kids woke up, got out of bed, walked into the dark, and they never came back.
I'm the director of Barbarian.
A lot of people died in a lot of weird ways.
You're not gonna find it in the news because the police covered everything all up.
On August 8th,
This is where the story really starts.
Weapons. No falta la persona que dice, ¿por qué no lo llevas a que lo vea tal persona?
Y le haga una limpia o no sé.
Consultan, vamos a llamarle a una bruja.
Y es cuando ella les dice algo muy extraño que jamás lo imaginaron.
Ella les dice, no es un niño normal.
Ese lunar que tiene en su espalda, no's not a normal child. That moon that she has on her back is not something innocent.
It's a birthmark that symbolizes some kind of pact
that they made when he was in his mother's womb.
He comes from families that practice
a strong spiritual theme
speaking strongly
regarding demons.
They hear that
and what?
And this lady tells them again
that mark is the proof
that this child was involved
in rituals
since he was conceived.
And at that moment a series of purifications began,
flower baths, trying to clean the child's auricle,
trying to do this, and something very strange happened
that made Carla start asking for help.
She mentions that on one occasion, like every week, she went to visit this lady.
Her surprise was that this lady had 24 hours of having passed.
She found a dead body in her house.
Oh my God.
She, obviously, was like, how did she die? She found a dead body. Man, she's... She, to this day, obviously still has her child,
Natanael, she loves him, they love him,
but they know that there is something spiritually very strong
that is connected to him.
And today she asks for help to be able to free him.
And she is so afraid of the fact that a person who tried it died.
Died.
How strong. I think this is...
We're talking about a generational curse.
Of course. What we've been talking about.
Generational curses.
There is a way to break all this.
Yes, yes.
We talked about this kind of curses with people who have come with us.
They go to the third, fourth, fifth or seventh generation,
also depending on certain circumstances,
but how strong, how strong.
Another thing I was omitting is
that this lady told him
number 10 is very important
and this boy was number 10
of those who had already been born.
There was a numbering issue there was influencing a lot of things.
But yes, it's a story that... Well, more than a story, it's an anecdote that we are currently being shared.
That's why I said, it has no end.
Ok, ok.
I'm looking for help.
Damn, damn. What a strong story.
Well... Look, I want to finish with this story. Rayos, rayos, que fuerte historia. Pues, mira yo quiero finalizar con esta,
con esta historia, que siendo sinceros es corta,
porque es una historia que nos las comparten de aquí cerca.
Es una historia que nos las contaron a VivaVoz,
no fue por correo, pero sinceramente se me hace bastante interesante AvivaVos was not by mail, but honestly it's quite interesting to me because now I understand why
because
this happened. Has it happened to you that you are in a place and you feel that you are not alone even if you do not see anyone?
Well, this story happened in a house, as I mentioned, not very far from here, an old construction, nothing special, cold with
smell of humidity, that really was a repellent, literally, the walls. Well, there comes a
boy named Martin, a 9-year-old boy, quiet and very very serious with a way of looking that made everyone look down.
He didn't talk much, he didn't cause any problems, but he always stopped at a door
on the second floor. One that led to the room that, according to the caretakers, was closed for many years.
One night, a caretaker asked her what she was doing there.
He only told her to listen to things,
to walk sometimes and sometimes cry.
She thought it was just her imagination,
but the funny thing is that the kids would say
the same thing again.
They would hear footsteps, whispers behind that door that had been closed for years.
Time passes and the strange thing happens. pasa lo extraño. Una niña desaparece de noche y curiosamente aparece adentro de esa
habitación. La habitación que estaba cerrada porque seguía cerrada. Cuando ella despierta
dijo que Martín le dijo que fuera, que la niña quería conocerla. Esto se empezó a that the girl wanted to meet her. This began to repeat itself again and again.
Children who entered the room without explanation
always said the same thing.
She was waiting for me.
The director decided to call Martin and ask him
why he was doing it.
Martin only answered and said,
She helped me to help her not be alone.
And that many times you asked for it, director.
And that you only ignored her.
Now she has a friend who doesn't want to leave her alone.
The next day, Martin disappears. Al día siguiente, Martín desaparece. Todos empezaron a buscar desesperadamente y obviamente
lo llevaba por todo lo que había pasado. Entran a la habitación, al lugar donde pensaban
que estaba, y simplemente no había nadie.
La habitación se encontraba igual que siempre, vacía.
Pero a lo lejos, vieron una hoja.
Esta hoja era un dibujo. Cuando la directora se acerca y toma esta hoja,
se da cuenta que en esta hoja estaban dos siluetas, This sheet, you can see that there were two silhouettes on this sheet.
Two silhouettes of two children, holding hands.
And on the bottom, it said,
Thank you, I will finally not be alone.
a little time later, this home was closed because of this incident. And well, this story was very short, but Leslie tells it directly,
who told me that I could say her name. Leslie was the principal of that school.
And she told me that she was an abandoned girl in that house, in her childhood.
And that she could see this girl, a girl that was always there, that she knew was nothing good,
but that she always invited her to play with her inside that room.
Well, Leslie grows, she gets educated, academically speaking,
and well, she takes the reins of the management of this home
and well, nothing, that is, he shares this story with us that honestly
beyond the doubt if it is true or not, the truth is, he tells me that it was closed a few years ago
and I was just asking him why and well this story is the one
that she shares with me, which was the reason why they had to close the
authorities but she says that she has come to go through this again
now yes outside and she continues to listen to children's laughter at night,
children crying,
and she made the decision not to go there again.
But that's the story she shares with us.
And, Jole, how strong the stories are, as I said at the beginning,
the stories that are sending us are getting stronger and stronger,
and this was not the exception. How did you have a good time, Jaciel?
All good, all good. I hope that the stories have been
developed and nothing to thank you for the invitation once again here to your podcast.
Family, thank you to all who came to the end. I want to send you a big hug
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