EXTRA ANORMAL - Me Enfrenté a un NAHUAL| Historias Macabras de Nahuales Malditos

Episode Date: January 27, 2026

Los nahuales no pertenecen al pasado. No son solo cuentos de abuelos ni mitos de fogata. En muchas regiones de México, estas entidades siguen manifestándose, dejando muerte, locura y desapariciones a su paso.En este episodio presentamos testimonios crudos, perturbadores y reales de personas que aseguran haber visto lo imposible:👁️ hombres convertirse en animales,🐕 perros que no se comportan como perros,🩸 ataques brutales,🕯️ y pactos que condenan generaciones enteras.⚠️ Historias que escucharás esta noche:En una región mixteca de Oaxaca, un conflicto aparentemente común termina en tragedia cuando un hombre es desvivido por un nahual tras una pelea.Un joven en Tepoztlán relata cómo fue atacado por un ser con forma de perro, solo para presenciar algo aún peor: la criatura se transforma en un burro frente a él, rompiendo toda lógica.Una joven confiesa la desaparición de su amigo y revela una verdad escalofriante: está convencida de que la novia de él lo convirtió en perro mediante brujería y pactos oscuros.En Mérida, Yucatán, un joven es perseguido por un nahual que desvive a sus gallinas de manera brutal, demostrando que estas entidades no solo acechan personas… también marcan territorio.Un hombre queda mentalmente destruido tras presenciar el ataque de un nahual contra sus amigos. Desde ese día, ya no volvió a ser el mismo.Y finalmente, la inquietante leyenda de SOR PABLITA, una monja nahuala que, lejos de ser maligna, protege a su pueblo de brujas oscuras, pagando un precio que pocos conocen.🕯️ Estos relatos forman parte del folclore oscuro mexicano, donde la brujería, las transformaciones y los pactos sobrenaturales siguen vivos.❗ No es ficción. No es exageración. Son historias contadas por quienes lo vivieron.⚠️ Escúchalo bajo tu propio riesgo.

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the miragher, no reces, you know because the people are you know that not all those that are

men who are besties, and not all those who are you are the people, are you

know, I'm a exertamble, today we have beenhawals, the the pale that's herr

well, welcome, what do family, are welcome to a chapter more of

podcast extraanormal, my name is Paco Arias and I'm I'm very happy to be new

in a chapter for all of you guys family, I'm sure because we're not

we're also a classic of classics of this channel. The stories that are predilectas

the stories that are the favorites of many people and is to be Naguels of these

bruchos of these chamanes that have these these these power's so incredible

that sound a sometimes surreal how a person can be a person

can be this form For the animal, all the time we're going to generate so much

to be a question. To talk about this time, we know a person very special, that's a very good

our friend, Ramon. Valdez, how is that? Well, you're very content to be here,

and over all, to talk with your public, of a question of a question.

I'm that the Nahuals are something for me super- -interessent interesting,

that I've studied much the theme, and what's great opportunity to be able to talk about. No,

man, much thanks. And I want to tell to the people. I know your content.

Evidentiment because me is recommended in platforms, because you talk about about you

know, most or those entes that a sometimes are in all the world also also.

And I remember that I saw a episode that you grabasted of a

Nahu versus King Walker. Yeah. And And you had about the Bruchat, Thalwel Pucci

versus the Bruchy versus the Brucho European. Who's the right? Exactly. So, so I'm

really really nobody's nother and that's doing. And, you're a crack in all of that

so, man. Thanks. Well, oh, the crack. Of who we're talking? No,

no, no, no, no, I know, I know, I'm, you know,

but, for favor you can't share, various, projects, and, so,

and, like, books, I'm, Of the Of course, of this is Ramon

Valdez for all of you guys. I'm a writer also of content. I'm a

writer of stories. What I do in social is basically the foment of the culture

Mexican and the world, but always based on myths and and then what I think a

fantasy of a single a black, it's a saga of a fernia may be

very, very well and very content to have taken the decision to write to make

the the Annyos, but our, with our mythology, with our own things. I have books of terror and

a book that's called Hotel California, that's based in the Rola, and a book of legends that called horror,

passion, and mystery, that is a legend for every state of the country, that basically

was a project that came to the reds social. And in the media social,

we're doing the different of our myths, of our legends, and recently

we've a project that's which is a podcast based in legends precisely. Perfect,

brother. Much thanks. Recurreden there's there's the website to the website. In the description

for you going to this episode and also be the work that he's doing. Also, commentate

that there a continuity of this episode in our site web, for if you would be able to

get to also www. podcast extranormal. com. com. com.

You know know that we're all about all the platformes. There literally

literally A can't get out. Yeah, exactly. So, Herman, a bit, I want to say a question

to give us to this theme. What is your conception about the Naguels? To what I go with

this exactly? Do you really that this figure literary of a person human that is a form

physical or the text more more type mentalist, more the theme of the psyche?

So, you how interpretas Because everyone about in Naguales, but never have seen one.

Well, I'm atrego to say that. Yes, is that is very complex the theme. The theme

of the nagualism is super interesting from the two points of the point of the point of the

point of the time, because it's one of the things from the world pre-His and it

was changing the Naguales, the the word Naguali, which signific

the occulte. And this is super interesting. Because the connotation negative of the Nagual, the Naguil, let's, let's,

we're in, diabolical, is the concibe after. It's in the colony. So, your question is very interesting,

because, a bit, so much testimony, so much people that about, about

apparitions of Naguels, about animals that are that are that are that have, that have,

that have been different, too, or, or, people who have abilities different,

more force, a better olfato, more vised in the night, that if you want to

talk about the levels of the Nahuas, that's a interesting. It's a thing,

that's always behind the fantasy, detrase of the myth, and in the legend, there's

always there's a thing, and that negar the possibility of that exist a

different to what we've all the days would be to negate the own

the naturalness. The naturalness us every days with things

we're things that they're not certain are certain level of

or to say that or to say that so the Naguels as

a figure is a important in Mexico maybe the most important to you

I can say there I'm with the serpient emplom

maybe with the bruches the t' very, very Mexican,

but not exclusively of Mexico, the men who are in animals, or that are powers of

animals, not are exclusive of Mexico. It's something that in almost the world,

it's a way. Dichaelism, from the point of the point of view legendary, and I

try to to leave a bit a point, to the life me sorrented. Sure.

Figate that is interesting, something that you know you're talking

is about in the world the really the Nagal as we

know we're in the South United and in Europe but

never has said this evidence that I think that

I think that so that this here is like a

person is changing a person and I here I

have a thing that we remember we we

we we we representation and are signals that are our cerebral. How would

representar you the view to see a person changing if it's something that not is a not is registered here in the

archivero? What's what how how reactionary the mind human at the person

to be in a transformation? You what do you think of shock? I mean to be a thing to

have a archivero, then you know where you'll have to be a new archivero, and that's a problem very

grave. You know, you know, you know, that's a problem that we tend to negate it.

And that's a need to be the initial also of many questions that we put him the tilded of paranormal.

Well, no, I know, if that's more than things that we don't understand,

that we didn't, you said, the parangone is marvellous we, we don't the archivero

correct to guard it. So, So it's a little in the cell. Sure. So,

it's a the more in the bad in the other other other other than

we're not a thing. For so I'm that the thing that the possibility,

the that's different of things, realities alternates, would be contradising

even advances new of the science. For supposed. Things that we're

doing actually. I'm always thought, I've always thought that can't

demonstrate the phenomenon paranormal like any other science, maybe a lot of

but still right is something we know we know about and for that they're not these things

very meticulously but in some moment that we get the technology that we're going to detectors of

campos from the contacto by radio frequency, blah blah blah that we're

we're in some point we're in some moment we understand and me I mean, like well,

I'm a little bit of his moment Jacobo Grimber, but all this

is going to cost to quite a time. And try to understand it. But not because

today, not mean to say that's that's that's and the real

to know, to explain much things, that these other narratives of some

way, they're and they're can't and for example, the thing of

the Nahualism the time that is a thing that's a

different in all the country because from Chetumal to Tijuana, there's

constantly relato about these women, these women, with these capacities

and not only of transformation because the nagualism not only want to transformers in an animal.

That's what interesting. Exactly. The power mental, and one more, that was when

I was when said, the world, the power to transformers in elements, that is

a thing marvelous. So then we'll enter into that part. I'm interested much because I recall that I read in his moment of tornadoes and things asombroses. But to give an issue, I want to tell you a story

and I want to know your point of view. This story is interesting. We're nothermos and titulam us all the stories. It's called Maldito Zopilote. Whoa. Okay. This story has a context

very interesting because a kid in a man, Joaquin, And we say that, and so me it's in the Corre Electronico, a gawal desvio to my father.

And all this would be avoided if not had ego, orgul of the per media. He knows

that all this has already in the year, in the year 2005, in a people that

is very very close to here, but this pass exactly in the region Mixteca of Waxaca. He says that in that he was a 14 years

and that a lot of a context familiar, he said that in that the people had many the people had much creencies,

the zone of the Mixteca the people, there's a lot of everything, muchissima and he mentioned that his

father in that he was a 40 years. He was a man and I want to let me understand us

a person very dura but amable much to his family but not had this language,

that's maybe amorous paternal to his kids, am I'm much to his wife,

to his his kids, a little, but I'm my father was very, I know, very torpe

to be to express his sentiments. Talves, the way in how he said, I'm

a little to be it to be to get to get to you know, that we're this type of

that's kind of that's a little, let's be his father, well, no,

he's And his a bit of when he would be to get to some tracos.

Some of some tracos. And he's that he was a man was there was a

irresponsible but that there was in the house of there was there had a so no

there was no there. So, so my mom to not in detail

he he didn't he said nothing while in in the house

sometimes in a time a time a one a

friend he a little a little a video

and they went to the friend. He said that he was there all the day, all the time, and yeah, of his house,

like more to the night, he says that he's going to be where his father's and he's ever, and he's there,

and he's there and he's in effect. He says, he goes to his papa, and he goes to his father, he's not,

he neverment the young he never to get to but but as he was a kid and he

doesn't, no, no, no problem. He says that he gets with his of the back

and he's talking with his father, for if they're going to that's what he

but he's a little that he's about the he's his way to his way to he's got

looking to the back. You see these these are like those

that's that's so it's a person and it's that's he's

he's he's like he like he he was a thing over there.

He said when he when he he's manda the story, he said that he's a one of those,

you know, about, some about a 60 years, a piece that's pasted for the years,

arugas, had a sombrero, bigote, but he had this facet of,

like he said in some un-encarated, not? This car of many people.

He's says that they're that's he's all back on the side of this

man, no past not, but he's like an energy a lot of

him, like an oppression, something, and he says that when he was getting

to the door, he's got a cross of words between his father and this

man. And he says that he he does a point and they are going to

some and this man, the guy, the man that was he, committed

the error to inventing like a man. So, the father of this chab,

he's molesta, reaction and he, he He's in the in the

empowers his papah he's a man he's sitting and he's going to

the disaster where you to get to get to the people there but he's there's

but he's the man the barra the that's he's he says Ernest

get to your and get to get to get to and be and really have

this sir not is quite this this sir you know who says that he's

he's the He was there, I was in the piece, only he he said, he went,

he went, and he went. So the man, the man of the can'tina he said, get to your

his son, and look at your because you know who is that man. Well, he said, that's a

father never has been a man, to believe in all this. He's not in the stasmas

gawals, and even in the people, he said, his papa said that were,

he said, he was passing the time, was passing the time. And here a little

a days, the the papa said that he was in his father he got to get a

time, he was a car of his father. The car was there his father came to

work and he got to get to get to get to his work because he started to have

the back, of the legos and was and was there was there.

So, he was there and he's all this, went to the

It could be cancansio, that they're some some some of the other people

but the problem, brother, is that one day, when they're going to the school,

he says that's very very very nublosa, there was a little light,

and he said that when he saw, he's he's a car in the house of

front, he was there, he was there, he called the attention?

No, but no, He went to the school and his papa was a bit more. He said that all the time

he was about the but medically and this is something because that's a lot because it's

invisible and the medicine. So, then they're so they're so, the sir is very

bad, blah, blah, he says that constantly he was he was he said he was

the tachos of the the recino. He was was in his recamara and

he was this animal had for there. a madrugada, he he's

he's he's he's he's not the he's a copilot, be a

figure human and be a person there, but that the person like the

is like the dark like he and he camouflagee and seconds

after this stopilote and is present what what is the

mom of him well and so they're they're to be a comadre

a woman a typical a signora, that can't help that's, that he says, no,

well, come to my marital because he's bad. He's not he's to talk to

with the woman, and he said, you, you, you, you,

you, you've got, you, he was this man, he was this man, and he

said, yeah, she, yeah, so, and you, and you, and you,

why? No, well, because, well, for the conflict that

I've seen, since that my papa I've seen, I've seen a copilot that's, in the teches

of the houses of the other all the time is there is always, and all the time is here.

And a night I was that a man, and then he was he's a copilot,

and he said the is he's he's the person that that's the person that's very he's not,

I'm not can't do anything. I don't, I don't, If I I get to get the

hands, I'm trying to do you. No, I mean, oh, forgetate. And he's,

you know, I'm, you know, the solution is that you go and you disculps with this

man. The sir, he said, Ernest, said, I don't go. I don't

I think, I think, I know, I'm, to tell you to tell you. But you not for you

say, but not for you say, you know, passed the years and in

some moment, this man, this sir he recuperer and he started to get over

his mobility and the and he's my father he's better much. In some moment

he said that all that the man said he said well I said the problem

that in one night he he again he never to

see to be this soapylote this he he was he was

there was part and they could pass four

hours and he said there I'm I asked why

is going to or to what is going to the unlaw is very rapid

because no passed much time his his his

his father of a heart heart heart full mind

he he said he he sent he he he sentia

this he he he he he he said it

is interesting he see how when when I go to see, I'm going that something

that's about a point of that he was a he was in the he tallia

to the back of the father. The sir, the he went to a

way, well, well, evidently rapid he, he was with him,

he, and even the senior, like you know, you know, you know,

some people, he said, you not you not say, you not say,

like I, no, I don't, that you want to be a person in the alcohol.

And, and I'm he said because I'm been the good, but I'm said,

why me did all this? And the next of the year's the next to do you, like magic.

After of this, that was that was that was he, he was to get to

get to get to and it impressionant how he he says, how is possible that one

a person could make to the other world, only occupant magic. Because really that was

brujeria, no? And he, I mean, obviously, for the medical, it was a

parable form of but he said, he could know, the context, of the

causeante of the the mother of his papas, a copilote.

A Zopilote. Because they're much about the thing, like

of the mal of the Nagual. So if this autopilot was there, no, difficult to

interpreter that that's it's tremendous. Wow. Oh, you've heard of

that the Nagual can get to transformers in an animal but for that's that was

that was in a battle? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's interesting,

no? Super interesting, because imagine the the that's the person

to look, the For suppose. The guy's the is incredible.

No, it's incredible. It's just things asombrose. And it's that's so it's

so it's collections are the animals, and they're that's the lilies of those adversaries.

That's interesting that. Or there are other versions that are also some bruchos very,

very powerful transform them to their adversaries in Naguels is another of the theories and

those are in patios and sologic and they they they're they're or something.

More, more than, oh, so, no, no, no, no,

no, this, I'm, um, no, I'm, go to do it,

no, no, an observation, no, this, well, I'm, well,

various stories, no, and this first that I'm, the Nahual of Tepostlan.

Okay. This is a, it's a story of Nagual, I think of these,

well, very interesting, because when we We've investigated has

it has really, very, very interesting. There's a young, say,

we're in 22, 23 years that's called Lazzar, that's that's in the

market. It's of the panaders of the night. So, that's

all the four, four, the morning of the morning, they're they're

they're they're on the time, and it's this man,

he, He was, he was going to in the market, he said, Elrojas. A perro normal,

of those perros carogheros that one day he did to eat and the perro's so much

fiel and he was he was going to a context interesting is that his abuela, he had much

relation with his aboela with his old, a day he he had a collar of the

cory, that's of a symbolit of obsidian. Nothing in particular. Could have been been

been been a He was a obsidian. He, a good day, he's a little more time and, he, he, he, he's quite,

with the market, no, be allrohn's it, it's a rarer, because, the perritte was with him, he was always, he was going to

get to the other people, they're going to get to be very, very, very, fieles. In the market, other parenthesis,

is that there was a cargator that all a world respectable much because he was a very,

very very very very much, but it was very serious. No, he meted

with nobody, no about with nobody. Then he paid him, he'd get to the

pay, he'd the day the day was a point of that I had to

be a time, and they'd say, they'd be a time in the market.

So, we're we're to be time. Lassar he'd go to

And that day he's a day, he's a over the zone of the carniceria. And I hear a little.

He's like something like masticando, masticando, and I hear you listen a gottoe

too. So he is a rare and he bense the curiosity. So,

so he gets a and and bolted to the zone where they're

in the part of generally have like asule for the thing

to be Be that in the middle of one of those locals is a man brinked around of a lot of carne tirade in the piece, carne of

a despondition, of the chastikando, and he's masticando and masticand, but he's in quite a very impacted but it's a certain distance,

no, because it's to get, and it's like, you're coming and he's, he's very apart,

he's he he's he he's a very corpulent, no. He says, I think that's the

is the cargator, and he's mascando and mascando and mascando and and in that he gets the rogues corrient after he, very felice the perrito

moving the colita no-se-k-no-se-cuh-cuh-counter. He gets up the part-tices and the prattice the maskar, bolted, met the colita and he starts

to chilear, to ganyir, and he's running. But does a noise. And in that moment the cargator he's and he

he's he he he he is he he

he he in the eyes of the man that not

they were eyes they were like eyes of

an animal evident this is a and the

cargator is mastic and with the face with the he

is he's he he's incorporated a type an

type alto no Well, Lazzarro, he's going to imagine to a guy, being a

guy coming a carny that's over. And he rogians, he's had been going to

and he got to this man, and he he's he's that he's he's

he's and he has a buffito weird the carador this. So,

he's on the market, he's to get to and in a corner,

and he he starts, he'll he Voltae to and he can't

see to be the figure of the cargado so start

encorbar the extremities are to be back and it and it

to retorcer a little and makes to make

a and project the silhouette of a per

and when he comes the little the animal the

nagual that is this A perro negro with eyes like of fire grunying and

that's he's going and that's he's he's he's a lot of the perro is much

he's he's not he's never he's very hard, he's he'll be he borking to the two patas

to the piece and in the moment that he will be to remat he will be to to mordered here in the coelette, the collieryana

is a seeka and muir de the obsidian when the colvillo rompe the obsidian the obsidianna, the obsidian,

stalle and that the gawal so does it back to and thence to scuping and thence

to get to back, back, back, back, back, back, look, is very filosos,

no? And, um, another, there's a obsidian, the obsidian the obsidian, the obsidianna

mat, in the, in the myth of the Nagal, the way to to make a nagual is

with an obsidian. Like the vampires they're with the matter or the

other with the thing, in the mythology that is the way to get a

nagual is with an arm of obsidian or obsidian in general. Well, this was

a coincidence murder the obsidiania and the stalle the obsidian in the ocic,

the nagual is to back to later, Lazzar recula a little So, so it's just a try to be

in front, the Nagual starts toce her and then it's like toce her and then to turn to be to turn to be a way involuntary, of a way

very rarer. And, another way, a transformation spantosa where the skin is a,

he's a, first to grunir and then says that he starts something like, a, as,

like, as, as, as, and it's a kind of a kind of burrow,

great with the mouth disencajada, with the ears, extrana, the patas

articulat, the costillas like medium salientes, an animal espantoso, like with the same

eyes, those eyes like the eyes, like, well, Lassaros is a

arid, but the burrow is this thing like a rourer, and it was a

little there was that they were too There was a person there and there and see at the

distance that that that's a bad at that's a man, that's an little bit of

the animal doesn't distinguish the distance what is, no know what's he's

these pericos grandotets of metal and he said to try to to get to

but when he's a mechanic then he he's he's he's

on the he's to be to he's he doesn't his

powers in the part of the the burrow, and he he's got a little, he rompe a

a muscle to the burrow, oh, in that moment the burrow he'll be on the mechanic, and he's over

to the mechanic, hevienta with the patas the casks, delanteros, he he'll he starts, to be to pis,

to pisa, to and with the box, he mured the car, and he, he, that's the master that's in front of him,

he's going to be in front of him, and the burrow, when when he gets the o'clock and the stomach, imagine that's a, imagine of a badgeria absolute, and the burrow

and begins to him, and in that moment, he'll hear the can't of a gaiyo. And that's over the man. And the burrow begins to recular,

and other's to be to be back, and in that moment it begins to manseer. he he said that

he saw he was he was he got he he's there's there no I

know I don't know I don't I remember much that but the thing is

that the day I'm a person of the people. I'm not. I'm not. It's a lot of my name. that he's I never that's never the time. when I was there, when I'm going to turn to be,

when I was a distance, crever, to the distance, a burrow that's being. I don't know, a story of it, and Also stories that I've talked, I've been I've been talked about

many times in the Kualas in this channel. And, there's there's

there's there's of the things where abunded the stories, and it's the part

where a person or a or a lastima to the animal and then after

does the she's the person and try the and try the gulpe or he has a

armared or something because he's got and that so it makes

very interesting. You did something interesting. I mentioned that the Naguil

also can convert in animal to someone more? Yes. There are bruchos

that have the capacity to convert in animals to people. So, so they

do they're a kind of a special of a but this person that's converted

in puerco, in guajolote, in what that can be to be that's

that's It's like a maldition. It's a special maldition, exactly. I know not should be

not really a gawal or no because I'm that the Naguil has the possibility to convert in animal

and to go to a voluntat. A voluntat. And in this case, no is a so.

I think that's more a maldition. But I know of the bruchos very, very powerful.

Well, you know, one of those that said that had in his patio this was the famous

grucho major of Catemaco. There an interview that is very interesting where in

some moment he says, yes, I have my enemies. Those are you those have in the patio.

And so I'm those I'm in pollos and serdos and then you know, it's an interview that was

it was certain or no, no, I know, it's that there me gave a story

and that I was I was I was a lot of a last because it's

surreal and it's the first that one person me said this of that

that a person is converted in animal and she's kind of animal. Or, is something that's a lot of me me surprised. And this chick, is a chick who's a child who me manned that story.

And says, is that... It's a person. I know, it's a person. Me consta, me says. Wow. And, and, yeah, me a story. And, of really, is a

thing of locus, this is a real-loco, no? And, you go to the context. Oh, all the story is anonymous. Of course, I'm

a photo. Photos of the person. Evidentimentary not I'm going to show the photography.

It's a person that is a person that's that's that's a that's in an animal.

I mean, he's he's, and me he said, a little, this this muchach

knows a other chick in the school in the secondary. The detail is that is that

is her friend, the other chica, he had a mal fame. So, because he

had a family of bruchos. So, so the time they said to you know, we're going,

we're going to make a name, with Maria. Maria, came in family of bruchos,

not you don't you know, this, his abuel so they're saying that is malisima.

They're that the mother of Maria was a a brao that had the ability

to transform in animal and that transformed in an animal to the people.

So, yeah. They said that one of his ultimate espos, because there were many many, they'd or disappeared

but had many animals in house. So, what you are you are saying, wow. Dice that the

people said that you'd to convertia's to his people, that was with them,

he was used, this when was when he was young, evidentement, was they used,

they'd He'd get the the last, and the last, the last, he was to make them into animal. And they said that the last, That's not true. The people

are inventing chismes. I'm I'm going with Maria. It's a good good.

It's a woman. It's a old. We're the two 14 years. And in some moment

went to her to her to do it. And there is where he knows a

famous abuela. He said they're and they the she, the she was

a hour a lot a lot a lot trinces always with whip with

this you But there's a peculiarity This this this

she's she's she's many and I'm many people and I'm I'm

why your your abuela has has been has part of their tradition

are some perils are that have been the family that unfortunately

they're unfortunately they're she has been many people they're they're

like to conserve are are people who have so years and they're and they're

constantly to Casa Maria and she's I'm sure I'm gonna they're that's that they're

that they're that they're that's they're like, how, how they're they're

they're gonna and that she said that never believed in that and he thought that's

that practice that's that's the tradition the people and the person were to say

it's a bruce it. So it it's the time. Passed the time.

She's made a friend, they're in a technology, studying.

So, so, they're doing, they're doing a thing that's a lot of a lot of time. So,

we said, we're going to we're doing we're doing the tech. This, and yeah, and

practically were friends from the secondary, preparatoria and the career and the career,

no? And he's that they decide to make a life together and they're to live

together. So, yeah, this, the abel the vah after, the vah,

blah, blah. What's what? What's, he says that's a friend

to be with Johnny all right, but in some moment the relation is twirls. They're

to have problems but says, I'm sentient to the Spade the Parade. Because I

know Maria of many years, of secondary, I know who know the career, but the two were my friends. And he said, and one

me said one said another thing, and the other me said, what you do? I mean, I'm a friend of both, and

he says, and I decide something, give us, a perritte, a perritte a big juggetone, and I

passed for a foundation, no, you're a perrita a rat, I was, it was a perritor,

he said, it was completely black, completely negative, had a peculiarity, had a manchita a little

black, detrace of the earha. It's all. He was to get to the house, this is this

with the thing, like, to amenisar the things. So, they're, they're

getting good to the perrito, and he starts, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And he said that Johnny amo much to the perro, too, and all this,

no, he said, when you went to the perrit that's a sabache,

the black, Negras, Abache, he put that that's the name, he said, all the time

he had a little time hauled the peluch, I didn't with the dog, but the relation of

them was, but the relationship, no me jureba, no, I'm jog, and in some moment,

after the several months, me mark, Maria, and me said, then he's

he went. Termin' he decided to go, he's, he said, how you're a,

no, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, go to, go to,

and he went to see, to consoled his amiga and said when he got he was there's a abache,

the perrito was there was very strange, was like changed, was like and he said

he said, he said, he said, and then he said, and yeah, the amica he said,

that they had a preto very that they got to get to the

and, so, no, no, so, he had, he had to

she was to visit regularly to Maria to, you know, to give a fortale

and start with her no? The problem is that I'm not to know a rarro,

man. He's that she was always that he'd he'd and he year and he

chiela and he and said I was I was and he was over. And he

was chileating there and he and said that's a friend oh yeah what hasabach

because because you know I think he I think that's I'm the veterinarian to be,

all right, and he says that the am I, because they were to make, there's a there's,

and she does a little something that's a man, he said, a manchita black at

the earha. No, he had the mancha. He said, the perro no, didn't have the

mancha, and he said that when he said, when he's he got, he noticed,

that the eyes of his were rare they were raros. They said, no,

it's, how do you it's a how you the eyes of a person and he

says that when he, he's, he starts, he says he'll the o'cice and he

does know that the not are of a perro, no they were

not even to colmillos. He said that in that he said, and he

said, and she said, Oh, is that this is a a bruma. And he's that with a fear,

so, tenying a perro, he says, Johnny, you're you? And he's he says,

and he mety, and he makes, like the rabidt and he gets a to get a

amy, like, blah, blah, blah. To the days he's he's all to know, he's

disappeared. His family no, no, know, they, they're circular,

these, these, the documents of that he is a disappeared, and that, was a

young, that was a recent had been to do to do, that, no,

they were, they didn't know, she said, she said, is that, because that Bache

not has, she's, the lunarsito black, for what changed, what, what's

what's what's saying, what, he said, he said, yeah, they got,

they got, they're they're, they're they're she, No, I'd be That's

And he's No, you Don't you Hevista You've been You know, I've been Remodiment,

Tristessa to know He's able Have done Have done And that She's She said

The She's like Maria Like, like, I'm No, I'm Interested

Who Who Who? Who? He said He said, he said, That's

where they have to be a to be. This This chick says that all the type was

visit to Maria, but was to the lapses where they're to be in the person. He said that

obviously the perrower not the but he was actually when he said Johnny, the perrito

was a and like that was that was that was like that he was, so she

planned to robars to the perroar planed to robars the the problem is

that the authorities, the family of Johnny began to get to

some actas they're to look to and the first suspectos

is the she was the one her's Maria so the day that she

she she did that she had had gone and

the and the person because I'm a a lot of the who was her her partner in the

patio. But also what they are there is the cadaver of a abach.

The perrito that had that had the lunarsito black was there and that was what she

said God, God, for years the family they said the abel the bula,

the that's not that's not that the woman is going with the perro

disappear they're they're nobody's to where was, the house and they

they're the and they're and the other perritte that she had had been

no this story this story this this chica me a photo of Johnny

so this was yeah many he said he's he's he and he

he said and I'm sure the the perro still he still he still

and he's and he here here came a thing a

kind of I don't see has heard how some some

the don, also to die to make a other people. There's there's

there. The person that's not the person who gets, the man of the woman of the thing, and it's

like a enroya in the body. That story, me, I really, me, I'm really,

I'm a mind. And the image of the person who are of a can I, not are of a car, is a

carer, how to the thing? Wow. That's has months. She, she,

yeah, I was talking about for a and said, is that Paco is he, he's,

I see that this is no, it's not to think, but a friend me is

a man, he said, I'm like, what that, what, yeah,

yeah, so, is it's really, no, man. Wow, wow,

wow, wow, is that the world of the world of is marvellous, is marvell in terms of,

of the ample and fantastic that can be to be it, but not necessarily marvellous in terms of the do-do and the moral and the ethic, no?

Yeah, yeah. Apart to the Nahuas, is that there's of all. For example, look, you know, I'm going to

talk about a story that is of the Nahuas of the South of Mexico, those that are the y'i.

Ah, sure. You're to be to a, of an encounter with the Wai Chivu.

Y, in May, it's a spirit, spanto. for so when if someone has been there

is a guy that's very common yeah well why is a it's a sost even there's many yucatecs

that don't know what's that means but well why is it's spirit spanto

and there the gawals for the mayas are the same figure is a is a bruch that's

a person is a whypec that's the the the the

the the the This, no the Guaymiss, which is the that's the that's the

that's the way of the white chivo. Well, this is a story of a

chabbo that's called Emilio that is in a town in a town that's the city

that's Tecache, pardon. This, and he he, he's he's

he's a time and eventually he has his time his brother a man, the kido is a curandero,

a curandero a major that's a man, as they're curanderos like those like these

are the subvators and they're doing things and they're like this and so they're many

in many and many times for the time. Emilio has 15 years

and very very close where he he'd where he was of this city

that's that's Cache there's there there's there there's

the hondonada of the the red and he said

always the Tio never never never You go to the don't don't of the Piedas Rojas. No, you know.

It's a little bit where me mandan, that's not to cash this city that I think I'm, if it's a little bit of a retirited by there. And, well, this place. And never, never, you know. This adolescent, a day and the night, his mom, he had to be a child,

a while, that's, that's so, that's if I, that's so, I'd be able to, So, so he had to go to And so he passed many hours cutting to this

and the man he said those things. I know really with them really with them. So, this chau

one day is in some place in a place, he gets a close the famous ondonada

of the Pidra Ruhas. And he says, let's let's let's see what is,

to be to be and he and he he, he's, he, and he's,

he's, that It's like a depression that there and possibly a sonote tapado or something or something. And, he was going to

and then effect see that in that on don't know there's a fondonada there's a kind of a kind of a lot of

the hondonada see that there are piedras redas that are in a circle of extrano. There are like

plums in the center hikaras that are rotas elements classic of bourgeria

So, so, see, be the cera derretida, see in some elements that are in the piece, tobacco-keemned, different things. So, he no had cruised. So, of the pronto, he said,

I'd want to see, but I'd see, and do a pass in the circle of Pira-Rohas. And in that moment, he's got, that in the front,

that in a little Cueba, he'd, a kind of, a grunito. And a voice that says in Maya, who

romped the circle this chagos he gets a parted and of he's he's

that's a man with a mask of a chiro and front to his

eyes he's to torser and he says that in

very few seconds that that a chivo. We're talking that's a lot that's

the night. Are you a little way. So, you know, there's no way. So, it's

very rapid and, he's a little bit more a child. A chivo. Another way, the time of those eyes,

bright. Always those eyes, like fire, like, so so, obviously, this chabot

is going like, but the chivo is much more rapid. And, and other

he'll get. So, it, he, he, he says, and he says that with the pesuña

he'll he'll cast a rasgar the spalda this man this man he's rewelcome, it's very young is very rapid

and he's and he's to get to get to get to come this chiv at his he's going

and balando in form very grotesque very strong and this man he's going to go and he's

so out of his house there was a gallioner that was he was was armed the

and he was entering So, so it's going to get to the ginnero and he's behind the ginnor. So, be at the distance that that's chivo, corriending, this grunying and

even as saying like things in maya and he's ever, and he's trying, and he, for care, to start going to,

abient a part of the gilliner. So this, this species of cabra, in that moment, separate in two patas,

and he gets to destroy the gillinas. Destroas and destroy them and destroyers.

When this manich Emilio, be that's out of your house and get to the house and

see the door. And it gets to the wachivo destruying all the guys,

but if dispedasand them with a salvigism brutal. Okay. And when it's

to despedasar them, he'll to the house and he gets to advance to

the house. and he's to bega saying always in Maya you're rompiste the circle

you've got you've got you're going to be not conformed with that's not he's up the the techo

of the house and up and upeating and grittando what you're you have to pay and you have to pay

and this man is aterrado his mom no is that the man is the man is the car and he's

in the And then, the white chivo this, that's in two patas, back,

and he par to the side of the window. And this scene is brutal, because

he, he, he, he's a back the face of chivo to the window,

a, and he, the eyes, the and he says, you know,

you know, you're to pay, you know, but, you know, we've said,

that the man, he's a cure, But justly, in front of that ventana, at the other side, there's

a little old side. The classic altar-maya, that is a mess, that has a cross-Berry.

They have a cross-Bet. They're different things. But he had something that's a little bit of

the ryeo. So, when it's when it's they're they're not, they're to make them

for that are they're to be a piece of a star. So, when guachivo,

be the the the pader, the the piece to vibrate and in that moment

like if the crystal of that house a classic, the classic Casa Maya, it was a

house of a place, but, but, yeah, with a little,

like, the crystal, he mack to the guichib, the eyes, so, so's,

so's for back, and very molest, he does a gulf, a the paref.

And he's going to and he's going to pay, you're going to and get the mountain. A lot of the

life. Well, this man is aterrower. Eventually, he gets to the mama, imagine it

to get a man and be the guillero all despisedasado, all made, he chos. He gets to

his house to the door, jenna of the door, he, he,

he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he says, if, if you can't, or no,

because, well, of that disaster, and at a little time, he came the time.

And when he the house, and he he's the galleener, he that in the

the wall, he had made a little bit that was a bit of two,

that's, that were there's there, and there, and he said, chamacco

stupid, you metiste to the circle rojo, right? And the Chau,

well, what else does it? From that the Piedrae that they they're in

there, they say, that's that's all the time. As a protection because he said

the man that if he he's out of the mountain, the wachive or he'll do it. What will be?

What's it? But it's not difficult to imagine so. No, for so if

didstrosse it and destroza the gillinas. And that's very interesting because not is the

only time that I've heard of the way in particular, destroza gillings. They're

something with the galleons that they're doing, I'm going to show a part of the clip,

there for the editor that I'm going, I visited a sienda in San Jose Tompa, me

is in Wachaka, those who have access to the page web and all the content

that we saw here, you've seen this exploration, we went to an asienda. That sandsia, for me, is like the rancho Skin Walker.

So, that sienna for me is so, brother. Naves, duendes, demonios, and Naguiles. I mean, of that, of course, and there's much evidence. And, for example, for not rumored much in all the information,

in the patio, they're in tallyed a gullal. It's like an oso with, or, with the, the, but the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, the, the, the, has like an animal, but the sacca are more humanas. It's a tallied. It's like like a two meters. The car

has had that has been different like of an animal amorpho. And to him he's called as the protector.

Why? Because he'd a gual and he had that with the animals and

they said people, people, that they saw, a bit of a baby, a man,

with a person, evidentement is over-natured, he ranco a and to the and the, poor-sitts galleas,

I mean, really, they're all right. Horrible. No, horrible, horrible. So, in this

people, the people, the, the people still, in the Nahual, and what they were to sconders, because they said,

only gets, and they're in and they're going, but because us, we need to be to be to care, or something

to do it to do you, so, so they're on this statue, there's, to the day

to day to day, it's, it's very interesting. Wow. Because it's supposed that a while also,

it's a, you can't be a guardian of some, of a little, a little an olde, a new,

a sageo, a master, and he he'll be, that's what me gives me much to the attention,

well, I know, I'm, you know, I, you, you know, you know,

precisely a story of a war protector. Ah, right, to the I'm going to

talk. It's sure that the nagual almost all the time Or so,

I mean, I mean, there's tremendous. There's there's there's there's about,

this we're going to we're going to be in hours, but look, there are various theories about

this. And there, first, the war between Naguals, Naguals as

as it's existed, because are things territorial and are things of clans

even, that are very interesting. Almost almost all the creatures

that are gregarias, in some moment they're starting to be clans

because the Nagual we're always we're always not really not necessarily solitary. If there

can be there's there's not really the figure of the nagual classic is

the the cat and he's not necessarily is so not necessarily there's a battleas

between nagwales, that is there's there's many videos in the social about the

tecuanes these Naguales, that are converted to Christianism, that not are in animals, but conservant all the

force and the characteristics of the gawals, more well, they're more in beheas, with barbas very large,

no? Yes, very musculos, very fertes, with garras, and they're to castes gawals,

are gals, are galsals, are converses to Christianism or the Catholicism, and they're they're they're

they're, they're a gawals, they're they're not, and when they're they're

they're they're they're they're they're they're in a gesto to get a

power to the nagual venceded the people. Evidentement of the nawals that

are they not we're we're not we're we're we're and there levels of

and individuals and individuals and they're supposed to the tecuan not quite the nagual

were demoniac there there's there there there can understand there

but in terms legendary is something is a little the Fiest of the T'Wan, you can't

say the Vera Guerrero, that no has this connotation exact, no, if there's a

Nahual, that's a hauar, that's, they're in middle, and the, and the Nahuas,

that are these menhawal, but in this case, there's, there's, but the battle

most interesting of all, it's not necessarily between Nahuas. So, enter Nahuas,

and bruchas. That's if are Gawai acid. Because the Naguil is a Bruchus is another type of brujus is other type of Bruchis is another type of

Bruchas, etc. The types of bruchas that we have or bruchos too, from from the grand Bruchotl, well, this grand brucho, the man Tecolote,

the maesto of all the bruchas has a rival in the nagualism for the supposed. Even if we talk about the theory is very

interesting because the first Nagual, the most grand of all the Naguals, this is Catlipoka, the godel the godem,

that's a transfero in a jaguar and his his brother, that's a exalcoate, in plumbed. So,

that's from that we're going to imagineate the what important that is for our culture the term of the nahualism.

Well, they're the those of our own and the people, and think that's a

thing that's that I'm that when we talk about when we're about people people who said,

no, no, no, existian the gods that's no,

oh, for that's there's that they existian, what we just used,

the way we're not the word God, it's not the word gymnasia, no, there's

the word the word camera, what you want to you know, but I like to

clear it for those like very people, that's not that we're not we're we're called

to call them, we're called to call them to call them to be to be a god, has to

have to have a mytho original, something that what, that it has to have to have to have a power

supernatural about what we do or represent a force and have to have a cult. All the ideas

pre-spanical had those three. So, they're gods. They're gods. There's, no, there's, no,

there's, no, I'm a movie, I'm not, they're paying me to promote it, to show, no, I mean,

I don't want to not, no, is a matter, to hear with you. Ah, yeah, the idea is good, but

is how Lidia the Catholicism with a person that's posseous, not for a demon, as we know but for a

deity of many years. So, then that movie, I recommend much, it's called the chaman.

There's to see her. I've seen. A, a boy, a child by a deity, to know,

supai. And the sacerrote is like a demonio, and his pay, and he says,

I'm more antigo than your God and that's your god, so, no,

the real of it's a so-sorpententent I go, the idea is that good great-old, the idea

I like, the idea me but the idea is good, so how a certain in a moment will liberate

a exorcism to a other thing that's a person who he's not a demonio like he's

so, then I think, to the last I don't want to spoil them, but who

really, who's called the chaman, who really really gets a medium to help,

or to help, is a man, because he is the he's the he's the he's the way, he

could be the same way, for say, so it's to communicate to some way. Exactly, I'm sure,

I want to this ultimate story. Vena, come, let's be. A

very, that person that me parted this, we, we say, in a place in a

place in a public that's called a question, a see, this chabob

me says, I have a tio, a man he he's like that's a unfortunately is in a situation

of the not because not because no he has a where he doesn't have where the family

is a but he is a person that he said, he said, he said loquito, he's

mad of his faculties mentales. Yeah they're they're in internar

even in nothing, so, yeah, it's a person that has a problem

with the a beer, he has been, this, perfumes, a person that's a

yeah, yeah, yeah, he's really, the family no can do

do that with him. But all this has a origin, me says, is curious

because this this man, the family to tell what he he,

he, for example, you can be able, he, he's just he's all,

he's in his role, but he has been like moments of lucid

very short, and when about what he What happened in his past

he'll and he he's put and then again again and then it's like he's disocied

and he will be to act to act like to be a way erratic and discontrol

but says the family that he lived an experience with

a and that was what he was he he said that I don't

I don't I don't I don't know but when he said he was he told

what he he, he said that when he went to the part the part of the animal, he said that his hands started to tremble and, and he said, he said, he said, my Tio's just so, by the cause of a gawal.

What happened? The family in that then, he said, this was a in Pazzo of the Coyote, and he said that the people had a tradition, legend, that said that in

Semana Santa, just about the, The Semana Santa. episode with Ramon of Semara Santa. It's all good. It's all right. It's a... There's a...

There's a... there's a new point in this town. And they said that that point not is never cross, no Jueb's,

nor Viernes Santo. Because what is the time in those days of Semana Santa, that all right,

that all, there, there was a person that was a half animal and a human.

Okay. That's It's supposed that it's a coyote or a lobo. It's supposed that it was in the cintura, a coyote, was a lobo, a perr, a coyote,

and the cintura to be a man. It was a man. So, so it was the fame that this story that the

people was called Paso of the coyote. Sure. So that was like a tradition. Yeah, no, the people know the people

know, but only they'd say that were that, so that was that was that was

the tradition, no? That's supposed that, this, this, so, so many years, many, many years, who did they were

to do, and he was in, and he was to the worst form, I mean, to say, that I could say

that they'd say, a heart here, a car, oh, yeah, so, yeah, disperasable. Desperasado.

And he's that this this man, that was, that was, he was, was a young with his

friends, he said that was the Santa, a time, vacation in Santa. And he said,

we're going to be able to be able to be able to be and get a and they're going to be to get to

get to get to they're in the point, the famous point, was close. He said

that they was good. And one in a carinette he was for there a bottle

of liquor and says, no, we're to let's let's get to get us

the way and the things, are the things, are not no matter. they're all.

He said they're they're trying to, I mean they're to go to five of the time, they they're going to

to be there to beaugh to do you go ahead and they're a fogatita there were there's friends

four with this sir and he says that they're that's the thing that this man in these moments

they're doing talking a little liquor yeah she was they were getting the liquor

and he said that's he was was it's a carvando and

I'm I'm I'm in my carmionette and he he said he's a he's on

because he to do you know he to do you know what he's got so he's like into an

arbustos he's the he's the grits of those people and he

he's got a and he's got to the fogata that they had

that was a was apada was was completely all all

dark and he said he he doesn't know what

So, they're the gritos. They're and he, he, he was not what to do. He's up

to the caronet, and here, I want to present attention to this. He's, he's,

he says, and he says that be to this person of the legend of this people. He's,

really, the real, de, really, and there's, there's, there's, he, first, be to a,

a animal. He said that was a lobo, a coyote, but this is reincorpor, So,

so, he's in two patas, and he does a question of the

division, he does know that even that he a animal he was a

part sexual. So, he said, it was a man, so, he was, but it

was, he said, he said, a, he said, the trompa, the o'clock, the,

was a, was a, he was a girl, to the, he was, he said, he,

He was on two patas, and he accelera, but he, what he, what he's called, the gritty to the grits about, those friends, that he gritts, help us, no you goys. But the fear, he, he's so that he accelerated, met and he says that this animal still, uh,

he's, and he's to correctear it in, yeah in four patas. And he gets to the church, he gets, pying a help, he'll go and he, he went to all what what he said, blah, blah, blah. to the day next

they're in there's there's there's a obviously the rassos the fogata there were

the bottle of the liquor the peskos that had the mojarras that had had been pesk and then

part of these three friends they're saying that this man after this he went

he went so he so he started he started to be to be able because they said

that he's he was he said to work, he, he, he took intent

of this man to have to be his own his own and this man

he's per die, then he started to develop problems mental and he told to the

family to all, but the people, the people, even the thing, they said that this

were, or, of the animals that were not, precisely they were in an ague, Creeing that

had been something. But this sir, in these moments of lucidess, describe this

appearance of this ser, he said, have been seen, he was he was courtied for him, that he

accelerated in the carmennet, and since the man, he started to be a be a, be a be,

and he says, he says, he says, he says, he's put bad. Like,

like, like, something something that's a he's a and he he's to

start a attack, and he he's, he's He's going, says, the family

has tried to reform , he's he's got, he's got, he's he's got he's got

bad, he's per die, he's per die for complete. And all, because he had had

a encounter with an award, obviously, he said, he said, he said, he'd

and he said, grittable his friends, not you don't you don't,

help us, but the fear, he's he's, so, so that's interesting.

That's really, is an The fault is a bit of a bit of a bit of those. Because no he abandoned never. For sure. There's a lot of,

there's a lot of to beavit to, rather to be able to. Right. No, no. It's a story very tricky. Decid I decided to

last at the final because I said, I said, I don't, no, we don't know, but it's a person that has a person

that had an experience honest to be and that has a consequence too. And you're in situation of the

that is difficult so that's no, it's very complicated of this.

Wow. Wow. That's good. That's good, what. Wow.

Well, well, I'm I'm I'm just for the last I think

my legend favorite of Naguales. I've said that I've

said a lot of the story of a noveles. I'm a project of

a novela that we've we've we've got we And me it's fascinating. It's

of the things more more chingon that I have read about Naguels,

but it's another side of the nagualism. This so, it's in

in Pueblo Veracruz. Ah, so I know know the people of yeah. There is

the legend of Sor Pablita. It's a legend fantastic. I mean me

I love it. I know, I know. Let me, let me, let me, let me, let me,

the, I'm the, I'm the first of the best of the best of the good, well,

result it's in the people old, that during a time, in this place,

there was there was there and there's a program that that makes that

the people have more new, and in effect, I'm seeing many

many and it and it and it's to be that the children, no

pass in the year of many people are going to die after the year of the year of the whole people

is a very impacted by this. To this is also that three sacerdotes of this

place that disappear one, first, that had much time in this in this

people, disappears a good day, the second dure a pair of months,

and the third also also, some months and disappear. And they're

these disappearations of the people are very consterned by these situations, the authorities don't know

what's what's the way. And a good day a man a man a burrow,

a monja with the eyes, grises, those eyes that have seen that and he's

present and he says, I'm my name Sor Pabita and I am, me

to this people. And the people, when when you get to Paulita, the fact is that is that you're really,

you know, they're a recel, who's this mona, because she's she's, she's, she's a

old, no? So, he's all right to have much to the women, the people, the

people, how will be her, she's, how will be to be a to be a , no, it's

a lot, and she, he doesn't, he gets, he, he gets, he, he,

and is a woman that you see, you know, in the mountain, and all the world, says, well, you know, you know, you know, says that there's

and they're disappeared in and they said, well, if it's the Volunt of God, but this a big man, has a secret. There's a,

the people, just a media tolerer, but really not is very dear, Sir Pabloita. There's a there, there, there's a thing.

And it's a night of the torment. it's the sky, all the sky. They're in vented very very fiftes.

And, and the people start to hear that something that's going to get to get in the gritty, that are

things tremendous, and they're grunied, spantosos into the church. And there's the tormented

so nobody can go to see to see what to be what's they're doing they're doing

that, and the rumor is sparse then the day the day next that

something, that's the morning the morning the next they're going to all the

doors of the church of the church and in the center

of the banks all all all a carnicer horrible

corp corpses desperasas of women and in the center

to abel abel and with the hands with the hand

the car full of the blood and and resando and resando and and they're saying,

what's what's what's what's he said, I'm in a night here

and then they're and they're many people are a to care me to make

to to be to to give to me and I I, I, I don't

remember me encomended to and of I started things terrible

that were around and I I was I saw the and I don't see more, I was,

I knew I'd know, I'd when I'd when I'd to restar, I, I, I, and,

and, and, and, I, I, I, I, and, and all the world did,

and what was, and what, and what was, like, like, like, like, a,

like, A lobo, no lobo, no, only something that came to go and it's a man, he said, the lobo of God.

No, no, no, no, no see the lobo of God, no, but, but, so, so, all, so,

all, so, all the people, and they say, well, we have to say, something,

we, we can't say, what we do we're so we've been, we've been,

asoled, and these bruchas, and these are the children, or are those,

are the chupan to our children and for so they're them

they're and then they're and the fact we know the we're we're

the three other people of the three anteriores clavos yeah, and the first

the first the end also the cuted the guill and things terrible

so she she says well I know what I don't know what

I'm commend to do I and so this and And from that moment,

all the world starts to Sir Pablita and they're saying, oh, so Paulita we're not

the first the time the separations of the people, all the people want to want to be

to get a to make a misa with her, everyone very well, all very content, until that

the day of the festival. So the people was all very all, all,

all, all, all, all, they're all all around, in the sky,

you know, reventing quets, and with music and and the point a little

a little bit of the world and say look a

man star stars stregas stufus they're they're like

some there's like some they're coming they're they're getting

and they're furs those fugas those were bruches and

there the jefa of the bruchas not the leaderesa

of the brucas grittando vengeance Vengeance. Well, all the

people start to go to all the world desperated. Sor Paulita was in the

church. Because she was always was a very guard in the church. And a

woman that had a baby of the person, is going in the people

and the little, he's a little and the and the witch has got

to the baby, no. They're that in that moment the doors

of the church are they're open and and Sle, Sir Pablita, but

he's a hurry to a velocity that not is normal in an Anciana, and that in the way, it's transform in a lobo brutal, gigantesco. With garras enormous, and dents feroces,

and that's all he's going to four patas, and in that moment, so so, so, so, so he sub a arbor, salt, with the oocyco, he mured the pyrna to this bruja, grita of

the little this lobo nagual that you get to get the

little he's a little bit of the brain to the broha with the little bit he's not

and he's to get to get to the brouh and he does pedasos completely in

middle in the atro the church the pedasas completely all the whole

saw that's a Sor Pabloita that's a that's a girl that's that's the girl

and the of the other when they're when they're saying they're saying when

when it says that he's this Nahual with the ocico with the hands

and the and so a little to turn to turn to turn to

just he's only that he's he doesn't he said that Sir Pobolita

no so they don't do anything simply the day a half world

and he's going to that the velocity of the and he in a

milpa and never they're at her. At the day the day saying

he's he's a and he present and I say the new

the of the people of the people and he's he

and sir pablita what sort pablita so so pablita the that's the

she's sorry nobody he said nobody he said And they say, oh, well, is that in the diocese, no exists,

no exist in a Sorpabilita. No, there's a mona that's called Sorpabilita. Jolle. And they're saying, that's that seroton, you know, they're not disappeared,

no, this is that very beautiful, the legend, and they're saying that they're to be able to and the Salpabilita.

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mystery of adventure of and there there's an episode that about it's inspired in the legend

of her and she was going to talk about because the kids want to a,

a woman that they say in anahuala and they get an milpa but they

can't come a woman, and they say the this is of my series. It's going to be able to YouTube. It's incredible, yeah. For sure.

It's incredible. I was fascinated. I was fascinated. He's really, he's meted much a heart and the children and the says, we're going to

see an Nahuala. And the general said, no, they're going to be there to be an Nahuahala, so.

And the she's like, you know, know, they're chambacos, so they're so, they're so, so,

so, so, so, so, so, literally to a lobo parado in two patas. They're

they're going, corren, because they know that is the Nahual or something. And they're to get to

a cabana and the passen, they say, pass, pass, and they're, and so,

there's, there's, there's like, a, , a burghry to, a buseria,

no, a mess, yerbas, and he says, the children, those, there are refugated

with the no, no, is that we know, we've been an animal, blah,

blah, and they They say, I'm saying, they're always like a mala, no?

And the senior, let's tell, that's much time, in the people,

they're in a people, malas, to destroy all the whole of the people.

And it's where she says, but my ancestors me did a d'n. And she

literally, the animation is how it's how it is a in a lobo,

and the so, like, like, like, so, like, you,

you, So, all of that So all of that's all right. That's true. That's that I'm a sombre. I was that time

to read the song. Paulita. I mean, I was like like a movie. A movie. A movie.

Sure. For sure. Sure. For sure. But all of this comes in basis to here, a, man.

A legend. A mythos. But there something that origin a lot of that is. There's something.

Totally. And to be Naguil is, it's all the time, no, man. Interminable, interminable.

We could we talk of many things more than which. I want to try to three,

three stories completely different, this one. This last epic, even, that's,

because it is, it's beautiful also, it's beautiful, to understand the natural person,

exactly, no, there's many ways in how they can be present a thing of the nagualism,

no It doesn't surprise us, no deja to be a

complete mystery for all the people, and they're going to get surgient more

more stories, and I think in some moment, we're to

get to get to you do it was so. The thing is

that the thing is fabulous . Also, I'm another

thing, to have a a man, a lot of because

no, because, it's because you make that you make a

super-fac super-amena, it, is, also is something and that's a wonderful thing,

I thank you thank you. I'm a great of course. Much of the opportunity. For putting me to talk to

talk to talk to your auditorio that's gigantesque these stories. And to you, I mean, to do you know. No,

no, thanks to you too, thank you too, thank you to do you know, I'm got to do you

know your time. I've got you're a talentazzo of really and thanks also to the

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we do what we've been so. So, so we're thank you. Thank you. Thanks to

all. Thanks a time. We're going to see in other episode. Until the what you're the mured

from the because of the carra. So, I mean, he arro- The piece to this animal

and he, he, he, he, man, that scene is that brutal. So,

in that trance, when the Nahual no regress to be a human, or not regress a

completely to be an animal, that's, that is to be a heart of his victim.

You mentioned the, the Nahuas and the Tekwans. How the Tekwan is, as a T'anse, how the T-C-C-C-C-se

C-C-C-com. the co-asson of the Nahu this this sheka repitient one and

other other help help and I'm that that thing imagine

the the barred in s' all those those pieces of the

pieces of all the pieces and the person has to be the

heart that the hand on the the other and has

to be to be to be