EXTRA ANORMAL - Me Entregan Mi Primer Muñeca Maldita | Ft. Antonio Zamudio

Episode Date: November 5, 2024

En este nuevo episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, tengo el honor de contar con mi amigo e investigador Antonio Zamudio. Juntos exploramos un tema muy fuerte y profundo: los demonios y las posesiones, compartiendo historias que te pondrán la piel de gallina. Pero lo más impactante sucede al final, cuando Antonio me hace entrega de mi primera muñeca maldita, portadora de una antigua y oscura maldición. Durante la grabación, ocurrieron eventos inexplicables que dejaron a todos en el estudio sorprendidos. Canales de mi invitado: ‪@HistoriasEmbrujadasPodcast‬ ‪@agentesdenegro‬ Sumérgete en un relato lleno de misterio, tensión y lo paranormal.

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so so. So, then the salas then go to a concept a little

tergiversated we're going to put like the under the Jewish Christian. The first

exorcist in the world is Jesus of Nazareth. If you don't understand

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to talk to them because you know the concept of the subrenaturalism if you

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honor, my, of the time that we've seen in my office. I'm here.

I'm in your studio. Thanks for invite me. And I'm going to be in house. And it was

necessary to have to be here? Yes, my, my thanks. And it's necessary. De

really, I mean, thanks. Because we've talked about many days, various days, various

times, we have a project in common that I always I've mentioned but this this time

I'd like you do you presentes for the people know the project

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of the hand of his servicor Anthony Samudio as a host and in an ambient in the

house of 400 years. What was what just he said Paco, Paco, if we're

to talk of mysteries as crudous and and forth, we're to look of the

things. I'm clear that's a place that I understand the reason for the

that's one of the places that you frequent much in different events

that you have a place where see in many things that

are in the environment. Yeah, when you understand the context of what's in the

place in more of 400 years, who have been in that what did you did you, what

did you did you did you know, you know, sot because at the time

of the recording, we're we're we're things very strange. It's

curious because in a occasion we were we're doing the production my

Antonio and this moment we're having to an invitation of the recording and we're going to we're going to a little of the quarter

or so it's a quarter encirrated and hear the gritty of a in the moment in the moment and we're like

all and all and all yes it was here and when when we said where it's where it's

the same the same the same point exactly is there where there a camera, because there a camera that

can't see to be in some episodes like a litter very big. Uh-huh. It's a house that

has been many years. It's a house that has been remodeled a various times.

And the do you know, and the house they're so, so, for example, where we

do things Emuchas podcast, is the cell of the house, but if see,

they're in that's like so lubre it's, no is, not it's so art. It's like,

so is. So, so is, so it's like and it's something because

we're not we get to put us to put accommodate not more. Camaras and microphones and and the

and like it's and like it's yeah, if you get to be the time of the literas some literals of the

new. Yes, and it was where it was the yeah, and it's it's very

very nitid and all we perceivable even Oscars that were in the cabinet exactly

Oscar, Oscar Hervard Searan Saran Sust us us and he was to see,

he was he was he was he was over supervising the sound of the obviously they're not

alertas right just for to get to music or things so no so no and Paco me says

he's a little and practically all so he goes yeah he's at this side

and Paco also he said it was the same yeah I'm yeah

so that's for the people that you know I'd like to present

now you who who What you dedicate and your rades personal too?

Thank you. Antonio Samudio, director and fundator of the agency Mexican of Investigation Paranormal.

It's an organism that funded practically when I completed 16 years. It's a fact of

a year, because at the 16 years in 1994 I, I was my father, I'm

my father. And my father was an incursor always of the buskedom of the

mystery. He always me animo to not aterrar me even though even to

convertive that I was in the child of four years of age you know the experience that I've lived and as far

and I'm as part of the study of the phenomenon my father was one of the precursors

that me said all that all that you aterra has been an question

then you imagineate all that that formation for part of my father at the

bibliographic those books are always always part of the thing

of Mario Harry Price, the Mario Joddini, Demario Sigmund Freud, and so in the quantity of precursors and investigators and inventors. So, then I'm my father, and in the 94, I decided

to look at a communication with him. Okay. And many, many, most of many, most of those are, most of them, I honestly, never, never I've said, but if the foundation of the agency,

was a raise to say, okay, of the organism of investigation. But with all the parameters that I read, I'm going to book the praxis, practical,

and I'm to get me in the ambit of contact with the spiritos. And just the first mission

was contact with my father. Okay. For to know what there on the other other side. Cosa

that is very delicate to Paco because the first, the first rule of the spiritism is not

contact with a family who is doing the operation of contact. Sure.

No, because no know what will get to. Exactly. Or no know if really is in the world

of the spirits and you know, and there's a lot of things. What's going to get a lot of me, is that that's all I've

seen in the experience of people that have invoked spirits in moments of duels. Sure.

Because they're looking a consulow. Totally. And the entity, what is do you're doing

is to do say, I'm, I'm your man, I'm your They know. And they're, they're doing a lecture. So, both the spirits,

so, both of the spirits, we're doing a lecture asifacient. Who, who are you? Who did you, you know, passed all? Yeah. They scanean.

So, evidently they're going to say that they're your papas or your momas. And the incredible is that, well, they're in this

moment of vulnerability, because emotionally you are you're looking, consuel, and under commies, you know,

but the contact no is with the spirit, of your family. And, evidently there are many people outside that say, is that I know many many much things. Exactly. You know, they know. Exactly. But the

problem is, as, as well, you know, it's a much reason. In what moment, you know, the veracity of what is your family? Exactly. How would say if your family no, and I'd rank, no, for example? How would you know, that's not a process of evolutionary

in the world of the spirits? How You know, you know, so much of time time of time, so simple, no? Exactly. It's a, it's a thing very

interesting, Antonio, because I think there are here who are in podcasts extraanormal have different creences, that they're

that they're in a world, from a time of reincarnation, from a time of transendency, to go to the light,

to get to the more to find out to your partner, that, I'm, I'm, gyrn much

creations in-torn to the consuel that we're in-torn to the MIRTE MISMA.

Much of the You said, perfect. Yes, many people people want a consoling. And,

and me aterra much, I'm going to external. I'm like a person I've been

on board of the death three times. Three times. I mean, I'm not

a point. Really, I'm a foot. Okay. And I'm a foot. I'm

I per die that fear to the death. So, many years, even being

a little, because I I was experimented in a form incredible. And I

only had a great in the times that I was a point of to die.

Because I, in my thinking of the man, I said, I'm to this

place, I know my mother, a my father, to my brothers,

I'm, and so my, my, my, my, my, my,

I'm, to get to the love, that for me the love is

the most great, and I offers romantic of interstellar is that

that's that's that's that's that you the space the time, the time, the

dimensions and and get to you're in that way, and simply start the eyes and

to get to say, and you can't the light, and you say this is very cruel.

And I think I then the creation of why the people was a consulal

in saying, I'm going to say, I go, and I say, and I'm and I

personally I've discovered many, many creencies that exist in groups of

persons. But the interesting is that is that has a reason for the way to believe it.

There's something that they have convinced that is that is something that's more it's more.

It's more I do you do I'm, to sumo to the context that I've

said Paco. The entities spiritual have the arragment terrenal

for like Alan Kardek for the appegos terrenals. but if a pego

terranal just like you have to give a example base what of the movie

interstellar of the knowledge of that the moment or of that moment or a

vincule or usually with our people that is a pegoterrenal to that

they call even even fiatte how it's incredible the world of the

world of the spirit or the spiritism with alancard is a wonderful is a

book is very philosophic So, he says, the piece, the appellos terrenals or the fact of that a spirit

not make a evolution is for his apego to the terranal, is to say, his vincal with the

spirit, one way that see his evolution, he'll forget of that he has been, for the we're living.

The life that's been in 1800, the life that was in three, four years, if I'm

so me explained. I think that for a reason, I mean, that's old that's old the

people who I've experimented the theme of regressions and they're very marked for that I've got a

see a experience of you know you're gonna or not you know in podcast no

no no out of podcast I'm I'm a certain a

certain karma that ohhalla no no no use in my

contra but a me passed an episode very curious very peculiar when I

received this an year you I've said yeah Yeah, me see the history.

The history of the idea had much to be with the to keep in this ambit and that my father,

after the more than he gave, me, he, he ordered an amuletto. I don't

have, Paco. So I'm a more agnostic. It's septic too, but much

more agnostic. And, of any religion me forger. This is like a kind of a

religion for me. Sure. Because me it mando, my father, to nobody will signify other thing

more than me. The manner in how it was really incredible and very phantasmagoric if you have

but something I did when you have got to you know, and there people there were that

one of many times I've said, I when tracienda my order that I do to my family and my

series careidos is no me passen for fire. It is I don't

want to me persons, but why, Antonio, why, if right there's a

question of a question of the same, no, but me it's a sorbett, sanity,

my polinas. No, I want so as as far as my threats mortals,

directictos all loo, three meters, six meters down the water, and why? Because

just that, that's not I don't do you, I don't know, I don't know, I'm saying, the mediums

basically, basically. They're, that the data that you have you in the

terrenal of this life, that you are host, I'm a investigator paranormal now host and we're talking of the theme

mysteries and phenomena paranormals. That's what in life we've took to live here. Those data areaigant

entirely with what we've been always in the space. You're reconnoces like Paco Arias Yeah, I know I'm

reconnoose when I know when we transcendamos that, that that's, that we're in the world

we're injected for so so, it's has taken and data that are the memory,

although not they're a remota of the spirit. Okay. So when you,

they're they're in the majority of the data. Wow. So the fact that you

can't be able to connect with strachably with your terranal, yeah. So, it

is going to do you know, and there's there's a reason. There's in the

aspect of the spiritism within even the proper, we're going to destruction of

spirit malevolos, the expiation. The expiation is a form of expiare, as the religiousists, expi to expiates, like, as to,

like, as well, like, in the context of the expiation, redimir, no? It's used, but it's utilizes the destruction

also of the spirit. When there's a spirit, a malevolo that's, no, I know, that's very arregged in the otherrenal, if it's true.

Okay. Fiatte, that's interesting because I, The book of the Spirits of Alan Cardick. I,

I go to the people know, I know, many years in the Catholicism, pertinacy a cult

very religious and I know the theme of liberations in the Christianism. And something that's a

book of the spirit, is that he's a language very similar to a thing

biblical. It's very similar. In what I do? For example, there a part

in this the book where you have been to you know, I don't I don't remember if

it's, I'm, no, I think I'm, no, I'm don't know is that exist in

millions and millions in the universe. It's that really exists one enormous that's

fractioned, and that when the person or the material has to exister, this

regress to the source of energy. Uh, so, so, biblically

it's like, that there also I don't recall if the soul or the spirit also, I mean, it's like,

like, it's a way, the source of where came the the soplo of the chispa. The chispa

divina, exactly. And there right, and that's, in when you're, in what you're, this is very controversial

because the people that get to have a religion, will be a question of something

that they feel that that they come in. A. Many people say, ah,

yeah, you've got my my abuelito, yeah is with the Lord. When,

for example, biblically is, it's, so it says that the person, there's

a part that goes, and the other part, is the soul, I don't remember what was

of the two, it's, I don't be there, so, where is, you know,

here, talking, yeah, of what in the story, the second ad of Jesus

Christ, for that that in that moment they're in the corpses angelical, is it like to be

so, yeah in divinidad and to be in divinidad, and to be a sea, what that's... To be... To that manation of creation? Sure.

So, already he says, you know, that they're in those dorms. That's, that has done with what you're

saying, because in theory they're saying that if you there's a part of that memory. There's the rest mortal.

Exactly. The rest of the rest of mortals. Yes. It's the is the body. Exactly.

Physic. A that. That contains information. Let's, we'll understand it under the context of Alan Cardi. Uh-huh.

For so I'm about philosophy. Because if it's a philosophy cardiana, eh? So, of a So, of a thing is tendencio

to the creation, eh? Yeah. It's, no, Alan, the mediums. So, there are three

elements fundamentales of the being, Mr. Paco. It's, just those did you know,

it's the world physical, that is the material that is the body, the spirit, that is the

spirit of the spirit of whom we we're in life. Conscientes. For so you're

you're reconnoces like Paco and I recognize like Samudio and the Alma.

The Alma is that's what you is the fulgore, that chispa. Much of religion

they call the the grace of God and at final of all that all of the energy

in function of the philosophy cardiana regress they're to that that emanation

of creation but the spirit that is that spirit that's arragged to the

body physical in evidence it's with the data. Exactly. It's interesting

all this thing, I mean. No, if you're it's, it's that we're doing, we're doing,

I'm going to I'm recommended, I mean, the book of the Spirits is a book that's

a book that's me have recommended many different creators, and the really is understand it and learn it

to learn it of a different. Totally. I always I've said to the people,

because I'm people, and the problem or the detail is that I recommend that you do you

learn that's in a context informative to capture information not they

do they're a reigated to a a, a creency a doctrine of a doctrine because

there's eventually. Evidentement that's for example Alan Carden he took to live in

the epoca the epoca and the time Victorian was very sasgated in the context of

religious no, paganism no, I mean the more religious all in

that time were very doctos and very done to go to to go to the

the church. So, what they'd and what they'd were in that now don't doden, oh-o. Fiatte how they're in the analysis,

Paco. It's what fascinating. I, I know, I'm for this, because for me

it's fascinating to hear different voices and different conceptions of spiritism. Alan Cardi he took

to live in an epochlorian where the spirits that in that in their time of their

present, they had in the past before the time before the whole, in context

religious oh-o- So, then those Spirits that he took interact to by the mediums the medium

were very religiousos. They were about the creation, of the God, of the designio of

God, there's a part of important. They had that's a set of totally.

And they were in spirits creyentes yes, they were with their point of

their point of their people, even there there's there a retorica that they

are there's sessions of mediums. It's a fascinating the book where they say, oh yeah, but a very

then there's there's a person who's, someone who's someone who's there's a problem constant to evolutionar

to do you, see how it's a manhack, spirit ignorant is that the spirit that is that's

about the evolution and he's he's going to knowce his spirit superior is that is an spirit that's a spirit

that has a they're doing a returica very important. If there's a problem, why is that that God creator,

why not to make the proofs and simply they'll receive? And he contested the medium,

how you tryves to questioner the designions of God? Wow. Wow. So,

so, so in the medium, in the contestation, the spirit and the spirit is

creation also how you're trying, it's, how it's a And with this charla previous,

I want you have talked in many things, of your investigations, of your experiences,

in different ashercements with experts also that have cultivated much know, but there's

a time that I've talked to with you. A bit. A bit, a at this

point, I'm going to say, it's a thing that's a thing that's a thing that's

for all, the theme of demonios. Okay. To see. A- Be, o'clock. Uh-huh. Bajo the

understanding, as I know what I've talked to study. Yes. And I'll say to you say something

with a question. Paco and I have talked always with Paco, I have to instruct you.

So, you know, you know, you know, to know what you're going to do you're about, but

not your voice, nor my is leg. Exactly. No. We don't the bra

absolute of nothing. Oh, with that. Yes, always do. Don't know what you're requirited. Yes.

And who is very religious, then, better, be it, but no, no, I think

that's a good opinion. Look, when we talk about malddad pura, well,

we've seen many, we've seen, well, see, there's, there's, in the

social, like Tito, that, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're,

they're, they're, they've evocar a an Astorot, a belial, but

I'm much I'm rio because I'm because I'm don't don't it's like I'm like I'm

to say this or to my perrito to be sientat to aghachat or or you want to go by the

fact of the fact that he'll be that I'm yeah me they're like you a

Diggam, what is what they're in? No, not so. It's a thing very, very, very interesting because the theme of monologico has been

present from a year-simus atras, under the, the inmienda that all the bad what in the world

is because there's a demonio detras. Crimenest, investigations, the demonio me obliged to

do, the demonio this, passed on these actions. But you, like a person

that has played in the number of times, well, no, you've ever you've

been to have been you know, because so it's like it's like the way,

so it's like the game of the wheyha, you've you've talked with

people that have this influence demoniac posseid posseos those

that's what you want to what is your perception of the demonus

Samudio what is what is your opinion about of them because I I have

some relato that in a moment I'm going to comment that they have been

with demonies but demonious because this point is important so, not it is posseate

yeah. Uh-huh So, like, because why me will be posseer

me in this moment? Uh, so there there's a reason of why

they're trying to continue to use Antonio Samudio, for why they

want to continue to do because the open the door to come

until the moment of what is the reason to to abitar the mind of the person.

Not is because simply was I was rascar the panza and I was to go see. First, I want to know

your context of them. Your acercation how is? Okay. My acercement direct with

you is evidently yeah when I'm to know a little more the supernatural

to the demons is when me took to live what I've been with Cipriar that all All the world,

you know, that's a affrontaminted with a person and a personita of two years invaded by six demonies.

Six demons. And no they were, and, oh, no, not they're like, oh, no, it's the way of the bigotito and so, no,

no, no. So, is saying, no are demons terrenals, no are spirits terrenals. And,

oh, there's a real universal in the Alancard and the spiritism, no exist, no,

no there, no, an spirit common, no could possess the spirit of an

incarnate never. No could. No, it would be even to the

mind, for the so I'm so they're so they're there. Well, remitamos

at the initial in the demons. Of where devienes the demonies? Yeah.

Caldeos Mesopotamical Sumerios are the main are the of how they're

the commonions the Jewish Christian then then later later after after

after those Persas those pinnn as forms like

as effigies, not? They are like these like the lion with rostos human,

and barbas like my so, but more more large. When they they're to put

alas, are the judo-christianos. There's a statue of Pasusu. It's one of the

demonios of the archaeology. Yeah. Principal if no I remember Sumeria,

if no me corrig and it, they don't me corrigen and six salas. Six alas. So,

then the salas well, a concept a little tergiversated, we're going to put it.

But under the understanding of the Judeo-Christian. The first exorcist in the

world is Jesus of Nazareth. The first exorcist and the Bible or the

exact. Of the fact, of it was where they're going to get the

exorcism. For that is more the rito than the that of what all

they're and for so. And for so also they're a

fascination a a little, straight, very straight, Paco, with the concept that I've

mentioned, the caldeos, the Sumedians, and the Babylonic, no, Mesopotamical, pardon.

So, all they have a concept about cultures. There are other, there are other demons

that they are, that are demons, for the symbolism Judeo-Christian, not some

demonios, but for others, for example, the Azura, that are demonios, are geniesiesios,

are like deities. and there's a sin fin in the cultures if you don't you know

you're not they're in a good don't know they're to be able to come to talk to

because you know you know the concept of the subrenatural of the same

if you pass for the clavicles salamonicas yes that in context are you

are so what are the carers those pantaculos those

pantacul who who can those those can't if this

data that I'm saying, no you know you know you might as it's important because in the

moment when we're talking the time of clavicles anomomonic the key minor of salumone

any people who did do it to get to do do a pdf down to

there are there's so many so apocryph today are so they're so they're just what

you've said to say who who can't really can learn that type

of No, can't repeat it, Antonio, because it's important? So, who are those who can make use of this? And no? Any you metas? The altos. The altos, what do you say? Areudites?

Erudites is, for the same, I don't understand, not studios, what they see in the studios. Sabientos, savions, do you? That have passed centuries and sighinges and transcends those scriptures. The occultism exists thanks to those erudites. I always I always

I agree with for me is one of the greats yeah others start to make

like Alist Krulli but are more contemporaneous yeah I'm more I'm

clear clear that he Fassleady and all the other and so they know

in certain books but there are books that they call the lectures providated

and lectures because not it's a question that not you know it will be

say yes perfect. Eliphantleby, there's that. Exactly. But do you

know you know I don't know I'm going to know people that they're evocators of demons and

I can't know that they can't say that they're not they'reudite so I know of them of them of us

we've been in stories emuogas yeah Alain Belong that that type is in

other level are some some encyclopedia Mark Mark yeah

mark a diablo literally is my Maestre of Cessions, imagine Yeah. Well, neither I can

say. Because it's interminable the conocimient and for there they say that the knowledge you

can't be able to go to exactly. Much of the erudites in the case of the

occultists also, they were they were they're great sermitae Paco. Yeah,

imagineate when, when they get to get to get to get to get to

get to get a little, they're to isolate from the society because they're

so incredibly strong of those lectures for so you can't say I do you

know I'm I don't Adonai Adonaii ta ta ta ta ta ta ta no no

not not not going to pass so but but but

as like you in some occasion if a demonio you

you you you you you see, and you have a lineage

religious that's in this life, not in this life, possibly not you

know, you've you've seen in a lineage of your family, a

a a surciss a, or a lineage of a real, someone

who invocable, the demonio says, in your essence there's a bit of

the memory of other of other of other times? Of course. You're interesting. It's...

Hmm. A-kissabra a woman. Sores. Okay. Not that's a coma. So, then

if the demonio captains the attention. But for to know, no, we know, no we know. Now, a person,

this is the about you with different persons, of different ambitos, religious, creences,

doctrines, of the demon, that the demonio, no, neither we're not a possession

complete in the body. But you let's a form very, very, very,

very, very, how it's me. How it's how it? A- very,

there's to understand. For this, there's the demonios, the over the naturalness.

When they're in Judeo-Christian, he retom is retom retom by the king Salomon.

Yes. The he did, the scriva of the demonios really. It's, he's,

he's, he's the archangels, in Salomomon is the So, Salomon was a structure for 72 spirits,

and these 72 spirits control a certain number of legions. And the structure of demonelogic, for so to say, no, demoniac, more well, is, who are the principals? Sure. For example. Principist. What is a principality?

What do you know? A principal. A principal is someone who is someone who is someone who is a very certain within the structure of the archangels, talking of Enok. Enok, yes, they've denosted like apocryph, but honestly if denostas anok, you're destas denosting

to the proper Salomon. It's like symbiosis, because at the final of the day, the demons are primigenios are men. So, when I you talk about the conception Judeo-Christian, I'm talking about the first war of the sky. The war of the sky, the data,

so post-train the annals of the history, how this war of Lucifer when it was because it was the revelation no?

The rebellion. The rebellion, pardon. As sentire less for the fact that God first I first I believe

to the primigeneos that are the children that are the people first. Lucifer and Lusbel is the

same but is the first angel and he does and he does you know the first is the first time that

you can't yes, to the momast okay to the mom so on him no then he did

all right no so he said he said to be the so he did all but like he did

but all the all all and also and sobervia blah pa pa

he has all the all the how the how the how it all the

how do the how all the partes a and he starts to create

all the all his court not there there is an there an

Archangel, an angel that's not, that's also a lot of a program to be a metatron. Metatron? Yes, my God. It's someone that has something that has been much with the triada. Well, okay. There's something that practically in the Gnosis

came the concept of the structure military, angelica. And is seraphines, kerubines, potestades. Tronos. Tronos. Oh, I don't remember. I don't know. I don't know. I don't I don't know, well,

they're all right. So, three, six, nine, those nine cores. The first, nine, the first, those, the first, those who are,

those who are, those who are, they're, they're, those, are the ones to say, those, no? There are we, seraphines.

Cerephines, kerubines, and principals. Principals, okay. Then, tronos, potestades, and no,

I can't do that another, so I'm, I'm just, I'm a, recording me. I read much a, it's a great book that Angel is Special in Pellor of Distinction

of Malcolm Woodwing. Buskenlo. It's incredible and it's super resumied and well-entendible. Esdras, is, pardon, Esdras, Egnok, and Salomon. The apocalypse is

another personage that is that's incredibly well pirated, in the sense that retom a lot of, even of descendantsias. It's incredible. But, well, So, then you

about of this structure of the nine choros. There you are you are talking

in the militia of God. But the militia of God is like a space. It's like

the the arbor sacred. Or the sephirot sacred. What is that is

above. Exactly. And also that structure is to above. The law of

the key of the right? Exactly. So what is the structure infernal.

Sure. Lusber. Lusve Lucifer. Astero, Belial, Bael, ta, tr, you know?

And all are an archangels. Because when was in the first war he said, Lucifer, how you

you're trying to give the creation and give all the virtues, or these virtues,

so they are they're as they're like, as we're, like, monos parlants.

Yes, it's that one human on a lot of an angel is so that's so

yeah, so, so, so, so, total. And, and,

we're to tronar creencies. No, I don't know I, investigate it. An angel, no no, we know, no angel, eh? Of course,

from biblically, it's about that they're talking to Jesus, exactly. That was Jesus during his flagellation. Uh-huh.

The angels were, and it's written, I, I know, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but they're still the moment of the queue of the

war, of that that Jesus would give us to come here. And when one goes to, and when one doesn't,

and Jerusalem, c, no more. Now, now. Now, now. Now, now. Now, now. All right. Yeah. See, how

they scupian, how they'd, how they'd like, I mean. Like, defunding, desenfunding the

spada. Yeah. So, I, so, I, I said, I mean, I'm, for what I think,

for what I feel, no, to be, no, to them, of the fact, of, so, so,

so, I, so, so, so, I'm destroyed us in some something, we're, we,

the, so, If the primigenio he's saying to the other I mean, you know, these ormigas

these can't he goes, we know, we're in instead of the grace to us, that the grace

that means the soul also in other questions. So, for example, Libravedrio, no?

Yes. They're militia. The militia accata- a cat-or-or- But if have they

Libra-V-Drio? No, Los Angeles, no, no, because if if they had had been

the... No. A bit, explain me that. I'm going to say, because. A bit. God, God,

God, in the militia of Los Angeles, commanding. They're, they're, they're not, they're Michael,

no, is Miguel, no, it's Michael. Michael is the major, no? So, Michael, receive the

orders of God, and the orders are to the most infimim of the places. All right all right,

all right. They're not their bedriot because they're not they're good. But they can take

decisions. No. No. And how was that there was this, of that's four parts?

No, because the Vell and they said, Vangance for here. But they decided to do? No,

no, but to Lus Bell he did all. Los Vell is the first creation of all.

Okay. So, so, me is that he was he was put for the grace that he

had a God. Okay. The first is the first is the one where you don't know

that you let them, let's in the books. It could have a controversy

under possible possible perceptions of every particular but it's not

it's the not the I'm like the but if I'm read it, they're they're

so they're so they're so they can't act far so that God let me

let me let me let me say okay use your use your mind

your without if you do you use to my costilla or

that no me you you're you're going to you

Because the contraputs are the demonios. So, Lusbell, he says, we're going to create the city Infernos. We'll, or more, our paradise.

So, he's a final of the day, in the history, Mikhail Loharroha. No, it's like the version

aondita of this side. So, what they want to accept to is that the

versions infernal is that I'm go, you want, you want, don't, so,

let's it's important that you mention you. Because Miguel or Michael, is one

a hierarchy is not so what's hierarchies more more more about

than the he he biblically and so agarate you go to give

a dot that you go to and that you know that I got to that part

to me they're really is the is the lucifer but but of

Miguel always they're they're like he's that after

the this this war that there was a

general or the for the place he's in this war celestial

that was a other version. Because even in the description biblically

Miguel is the only that's the only that's the Bible to do

physically physically a body atletic like of bronze cinturon

of or so is the description in the Lucifer but there you

can't even exists a description is that there there

in the version of what Bible? Well, about the Bible canonic. Ah, but the

canonic and it's more, I'm going to put like the Spanish, the language

Spanish devien of Latin. No? Okay. The conception of Latin is in

Roma. And also there are two languages, that is the Italian.

The Italian. We came of Latin. When when it starts to move the

question religious and no it was Pedro Roman, if was Constantino really.

Constantino that's an emperor yeah, also a strategian nato this

to let the conception to that other part of cultures that have started the language

of Spanish so if we're going to the description Miguel or Angel Miguel

is Spanish the conception of the type atletic, whero, rubio, this super,

this, all my, and so, although are endrogynos and are asexuales and also and are

marmaphroditas. It's a theme, eh? That representation angelica is based to the

humanism. Because, because not would not enteria in our psyche, my credidissimo,

Paco. No, no, no, no, I would understand. Today for today

that's like to me say I'm going to ask a question and I'm

going to learn let us how is God no no Jesus no Mikaer

not the Jesus God no no no no form how you imagine

no no no no form is a retortque incredible that's I'm

in car the eyes of demian this incredible that total

that um a let mecael is the retablo devian defiant of

the alas defiened of those concepts of the retarles medivales okay

I'm talking you're talking of the century two of the occultism you're talking even

even of the etchura of the proper conception of Jesus of Nazareth existio

yes historically there there is a type that existio so it

and existio all the what was written possibly maybe tergiversized and a

little reversionated with the apostles and the other but it's for that they're

a man who he initiated the religion yeah well Micahel he put in the Jodio

Christian of the era of the time medieval as as he expulsed to Lucifer

even there's an incredible and a fascinating statue where he's with a a lance

a land a a demonio a a demonio supposedly is Lucifer There is a statue

incredibly beautifully a beautiful and I know if it's in Italy

or in France I don't I'm I'm a sculpture that

they call Lucifer or Lusbel and it's an angel

that represents like an angel caied in all the context

see see in the version for phraseo the major

part of the things are written in mystery

Caided in What sense? What do you You understand You for you For caido? About of an angel

Ah ha ha Yeah exiliated Exiliated Denostado Corrid If you You're going to The

Contextual of the Caido In the version that Judeo-Christian of the Apocamidival is

Resumido is Funado for so so said It's derotado Caided, me

Siento caido, when I think I'm Cato, how is? Yeah, you feel It's... Decaid, this, mal, no? Mal. In the symbolism

human. In the symbolism angelical, he's over, no, sorbete. For that's I create the Infernos.

And of the infirons he galo, for example, Uriel. Uriel, is a person who is an anales

not of the Bible, I'm, Esdras, and the Nok. Uriel is a person that custodia

the door of the Inferno that's the door of the Parasso Sure Uriel is a type that's

like the cadenero Ah, you want to do you know I'm there Let me ask me

let me understand If you're Uh Uriil is a person that's a Metatron

There's he's a Desafio in that in that elapsus of Jesus Yeah

in the moment that has a a kind of interaction with God's Father, before the crucifixion is in the

mountain, the Mount Sinai, if I don't remember, or something. And he see in a charka that is one

of the temptations that they're that even are lucive. Figginsse, all the context of

sacerdotal is allusive to the things of Jesus Christ. Okay. It's incredible,

because the parents have been temptations of that those are fission like

fathers real, that have conviction as to the entry of God. Ablese of the

Catholicism Apostolico Roman. And there a partado in those scriptures where see a

Jesus in a charka of the water, is a can't and he has Jesus

the latism of a human. Jesus is a semidios made a image and semifance

by orders of God. The order of God is they're and

they're in a gigant A gigante in the context is the combination between a semi-dios and a human. A nephilin.

A nephilin, exactly. But this nephilin also has his debilities as a human. He does fear.

Yeah. And is in a charka of the water. It's a lot of the car and in that it's see to be

to see and his rostro, his opal Ganger, can be and it Lucifer

that he says, why you are the life for these monos parlants bet what you what is

here and in that part of that is written that is in Esdras and Enok

see another third person personificated in human and is

Metatron are trates I do and they say and they're men

let in the universe in the history is written not in

his Manos. So, Ordenes of the Creator. Lucifer? Boom.

Metatron and Jesus. Jesus, way. Triates. Okay. Creation of Triad.

It's interesting analyzing it. You can't all. That's a context. And that part of is incredible

because Metatron is a mediator. A see something in this moment because people who

has been that has shared that type of revelations, much that have passed.

No, that know, that's in the Bible. Where is, Antonio, for that you're going to

in this moment, because they're like, Fountes of Ortiz, Fenty, my abolita, me what I'm did,

Fentes. Fences. Fubleauphics of Esdras. Are you 17 tomos. Okay. I, of

the 17, me have read like about about six, they're to learn. Okay.

Esdras, over all so, it's center in the arbor genealogical of those then

of the world of Jesus. Okay. Because apart the book of Esdras, that form a part of the, of those, of those, of those canonices of the Bible.

Yeah, a bit, oh, for that's what I mean, in the Bible, no, I'll be, pardon me, I'll have, let's have been, and I've passed, I'm just a lot more than Apocalyptus of San Juan, as I'm going to come to some occasion, me centrable in Apoclesis of San Juan, that's it. Because just to talk, this, no, see, Matthew 23, is a, is a rollo. is drass in the in the in the facetulo number three I don't remember of the 17 16 more or less if I'm

if I'm equivocal there you put it then number these apartados just the version of Metatron who is Metatron because there exists this Archangel that nobody knows Metatron is an enviado of

God to say to be the imbecile of your man who is that in the In the infirm is doing that this way and the other

imbecile human is desist because he is going the person human be and

order. What is going to happen to happen because it's a symbolism

of creencia because those humans when see and they're dead and they're

dying and they're to know the Pharisees of what I'm going exactly

is that I say me and if you have this canyho to have this can't this, he's my

son, is my son. So, me understand. That's interesting when you do you know, so it's incredible.

You go to the head to the head. And it's that here it's a then what is, well,

it's, well, I know, people, luciferinus, more luciferinus than satanical. The fact to see to

the portator of the I remember a... Raphaeists. Yeah, paraphrasing a little what they said in some

Luciferino. Is that why really what he wanted was to do Cephyr is to give the light of the

knowledge of the humans. Uh-huh. But I feel that was like a a good

with a superversa. It's perversa. So, I know because I say that they're going to destroy

with that. It's perversia to say from the first condo in the naturalness Paco.

Because if you can you can to analyze the profile, the Perfiel, the filial, I'd say that, of Lucifer, is a

type ingreidio, is a type suburbia. If you humanizes to the concept of the human, is a psychopath. Sure, because you know, because you know, the authority is autodestructive. A narcissist, antisocial. So is a guy that, well, alab me, and if not me alabas, you're not, you're not, you're

exactly. It's like, yeah. If you're humanizes, o'ho, eh? Sure. But the angel is a creation primigenia. Is that? Now, now, Tomando the context

historical, religious, and we're about the concept historical, religious, and we about how

it's going to be manifesting through herudites in the know, hermitains, people,

savies, altos. We're going to put it over the mesa, over the cases of

demonios that have been seen, you in the agency you mentioned that you had

30, 30-tant-tantos expedients of persons that have had been a detail of, not not, perhaps possession, but is an

influence of demoniac, Donio. Pachan us, the more that you have investigated. I think there many, Pac,

but is that the sobre-natural is where you say, okay, for example, many people, people, they're in the

channel of the Agents of Negro, we're, we're seeing and that we are doing continually material.

There's a pizarron of my officeina, you have seen. Yes, where you two,

two pantaculus. One is Bael and the other is Agarres. Bael is one of the principalos

that is very at the right of Lucifer. Okay. There is to understand the concept of

Bael. Bael is a, all are some sabios, all are all parted in the

know, but it has that you did you say no, he has been the librio with God,

it's the liberal albedrio because he sublev against God. And

He has a fascination for the youngsittas. And when I'm about a young citizen, I'm talking of the humanized in the context of the psychopata.

No, I'm going to say many things. Evidently, you know, that we're there's certain measures.

In one of the cases that I investigated of the phenomenon of possession, Bael incursion

about the temptation of a jovencita of 18 years. A little a new generation, I

tell you to say a thing, no I'm saying not I'm going to this new generation is a life of

knowledge but awas because the demonies they're still Bael is one of them of them of them

and his predilection are jovencites young, humanas from 15 to 19 years to make them to care

not with vacations contentations and one once that he has atrapa obtain

predilection for the alma of these in the case we've seen the

impressionate the the issue during the process of possession and during the

process of the the proper liberation the curate that

was that was part of the dioces primate of Mexico. Cypriel?

No. No, Cypriel yeah. Cypryl yeah is this retired. Okay. Well,

it's there me, we'd directly, we'll have here in the mess here. Excellent, but no, yeah

Cypriil, no, you can molestate. But, this, during that process, that cura, was giving

data and things to the families, the family, the familyaries. We're not with the ecclesiastic,

because even they're creating a hermetism to even more caon. It's a understand and it and I'm

the secrecy but well if the familyaries are that we're able to that we're not much

no. So the families me gave data that that were through the sessions

of the deliberation. They were in process of exorcism so one of those of which

arrojo part ojo not the name, the interaction with her.

And we also as studios of the time, you know what demonio interactual

with a base to what? How it's how we're not the exorcists

I'm doing this because of a sudden a minute I'm going to get you came to

you. Paco Samudio I'm no wait for in see you

lookency we we're we're we're we're not in the case of

us we're just I'm said I'm said to have to have

a preparation a proper a professional a no no it's no

no So then the family of this personita us arrojave a data. That one of the temptations was a biblioteca that encountered a book where it said, "'Unnete to us.

The chavita "'saca from the bibliotheca, "'the book, "'and it begins to revisal "'and in the book, "'fittings the signals, "'Palabras in, "'combo in this mark-door.

"'Palabras in every oja. "'She formed an oration of the words that he had in the book

never said unete to us I remember that the author but it

was a concept more kind of but no it was not

nothing it was like poetry and the and the name and the

of the phrases that were marked form a form a

phrase complete where and he he said the knowledge

also also cause pleasure wow And when us the data

the family I have a team of investigators checking who is who is, who is

you, you know, you know, you how's it how it's how it's in other

exorcisms or in other ohho because there are many many

but there's there demonios of herarchia very that are posyending a

nine children women women and expulsed and are

not done the SPR evidently there are data there a retribution of investigation

so you put to learn and you put to ask that phrase is clave that phrase that says

in all he is like a narcissist psychopata okay he's he's

like I want to me beas but I want I'm yeah and he

and he starts to tend to the the comportament of Bel the

Comportamento of Agar's is that the other sabio in the

which is represented for an anciano mounted on a crocodile a garris and agariz

can be very amigable agaris can result even angelical can be manifestarse as against the

women or against the women as a person erudita of the thing that you

go to talk the but a change to a thing

the the she found first there there there

other symbolism more specific He started to tend her in the context that, you know, when I'm going to be a temptation, I'm talking of a sexual.

Okay. He's to tempter and he begins to get to tendar. What age had, the little? 17 years. Okay. 17 years in that then, so he's talking

2020 to our to our dates. So, is recent? Reciente? No, so many years years ago? It's a time a little little bit of those cases

that, evidently, I'm going to reserve all the discretion of the profile of the of the name of the father's

and the what we did we need we're we're doing this in the session of liberation

was this authorgo this so then the father my father he's to questioner how in

how you he got how you did you it's an innocent and boom boom

boom no I imagine I'm I'm I'm imagining all those scenes and I

know what Iroroo and we're we're of that Bael is one of the demons when we're saying if it's Bael

and Garese he's comporta that's a manner for that's I was I'm in the pizaron okay those demons are

those who were the case of this knee Cordy A when reveling because there

a revelation in the process of liberation okay I'm talking 2020 that we're in the case

we're in almost 2023 so reveling they are wow and we we're

It's true. If it was a diagnostic. That triangulation of information of the fathers, ojo, of the fathers, during the process of liberation, the nina, even no supo that we're not even if we're going to do, because who knows are the papas.

Yeah, I'll tell you, that's the case, we don't know we're going to be able to do all. Yes, we're going to be able to be posse.

But it's good. No, no, but imagine that case, those types of cases. Someone asked, What, what on those demons? That's the one, are those.

Sure. Fiatte that, I mean, for the people that are listening, I'll go back to repeat stories inbruchas because we're going to have the time more ahead,

of possessors. Posses. A be, I'm doing, I mean, but you're, but you're going to say something. So, can't

call possessor or can be about, or can be able to be talking with the demonio? I'm like.

You're more chido. Sure. Because, to be, the context that we're arrojando

of the possible a new time. Yeah. We're talking of that

about that yeah, yeah, is that we want to set to the

people that I investigated in some point in the process

of the series me and I encounter with the

man and there and there don't not got

in the stories of the series but they they're going to

have in talking with the story stories are

oh oh of the of the series? We're going to The Demonio of the podcast

Stories Embruchas for you go and you subscribe to you know, we're we're going to we're in the rectal final

but for me me said a little to the collection that I'm here to my right to be but yeah

but but but I'm but for you can't for favor in production this pass the

obseqio of Antonio Samudio yeah so don't for favor if are there

Well, you can, for favor, for favor. Yeah we're going to

because we made a little because we're this muke. Let me. Let me.

Lettickame of her and I'm doing a time for that the people can't

see. I'm going to give the context. Okay. No, there's no,

no, no. It's put as so in the knowledge that we're having

been with based to all these are those studies when you can't know that's

we can find out of situations of objects and there objects that you can't

talk at instant. Yeah. I don't I'm a agnostic is septico. Sin

however, the propios of the theme you say if you talkas

something that recently is talked by the mal, not is that you be a

malignant is something that is something that is going to be a marmar, you can't give a stigyita in your false agnosis. Okay. So, is it's just, not you, no, not sysh, no, not syshant, too, of the concept of these energies,

because if you understand, if you comprehend the context of the maldart, clear me that you're going to beasurated with those objects. So, so, So, no they're in a certain way

with a lot of Rosales. Right, just we're just, we're to be

to the object. But imagine with all the envolvients, and so all the

alfiliers. Something of the alfiliers is that were the muca, no is a

moose. Okay. The concept to encounter this object is that was to an species

diatico of a house of many years. We're talking about the time more of 200 years. 180 to 200 years.

Three families different have been vinculated with the object. Three children different. We're talking

the most antigo, the datado for us approximately 100 years of the first generation

that we know one thing is the first is the other is what we don't know we don't know how many

years this boonieka but if see approximately 20, 1900, 1,800, 180, 1,800. That's very big. The data, if you reaffirmed the object, you reaffirmed the data of that since then.

Okay? Dises what there is a referent. The difference between the objects and us, we don't know we're carrying our energy. Cargamos of concepts that in some point can be in a stile. Example, agarras something that's been brojado

and if you can reflect a, A tisbo of energy rarer. So, is to say, ah, it's a sientrearro. So, it's a feo. Who are you don't know.

Sintierone that. Uh-huh. But no is that you carry there. Because what's that's

here is a vinculant with the children. Yeah. The first family, the first infante

that vincol, if no, I remember, a new year, a new year. It's a moñer. Oh,

oh, no, not it's a time. We're talking to have 100 years, of our, so,

a new, a little, a little bit of a mania, okay? But in that then, then, it was mokees for the nieces for the children. Sure, okay? The interesting, the issue is that a little bit of a little bit of this muke.

And then the phenomena. No, no, no, it's, no, it has been the data precise, because the deweens of the house that acquired

that case of two hundred years you narrran the first things. It's, is the first dwean, the, more,

the last, the last, the last one, He says to the last duenues of the muneco how was

the history of that a house. A house an house where he pertenes a family

of the year and where there were with rascos attenuants of malditions but very leves.

No, we know what there's no no more no more there's in however

there there's being, in however there was there was there there was

this. The family the, the the who the encounter,

it has been to get to get to do it and it

and so it's a man in man in man. Usually the first

generation they encounter pass soceses of direct with the

object and the other other voices strange a phenomenon

more pass of phantam but in the second the second

generation of the second visit of other family vinkula

with a little and with the a little more sinistrous. The little bit more like she.

With the view to her and when she was a mom, it was like she was the that I'm saying

now we're going to do this, Anna. Now we're to do this Carmen. We're going to say, there

was like there's a name. No, no name. No, no, none of the

one of the children he has an name. Okay. What he has

the attention. The first that does a, that a spirit

you catch or to get me of attention but it's vinculate with the children not with the adult's in the other in the adult's

he has provoked things and there occurred to be something you know the light the lampa

so if you have passed things I'm clear that all the objects aggregated in energy

and can manifest yes it's a thesis that we're we're a thesis that we're

where we're where we second generation no was about of that. Oh, my and I don't know what, and the game was sinister, because in the

mind of the little bit of the house, that they're talking about the story, that for that moke, no should have been able to have been out of the house. Okay. But that house would have been, well, never maldita,

but inbrujada. Wow. The ultimate generation, who is who makes it get to the muke, are the families of the other a little. A man, emphatized

with the muke, but provok an accident in the escalator of the house. The

child, according the parents, so with his muke. So, he's going to the

mom. He says, yeah, guard this cochin object. I don't know how

you don't know that you don't know, so that's saying, that's saying to say

that he's to be going to the and the manica to get to be

to be the expression. The muke no so move. The mollica

is like of porcelana if you you know if you it's a rompe the

the muke did a way wait wait wait. Wait me.

All right? All all? All right? All all? All right? I'm

I'm sorry for poor, I'm just no for God no God

but me marioca in when when The head. Respira, man.

Respira. No, no, if I did much curiosity because, to be, a bit, well, well,

it's a little, the mom, the mom, he's saying, yeah, that's a porchery,

guard, the, no, I know what you do you know, I'm going to go back

the escalate to the mom, and it seems that the thing, and it

doesn't, if you, if you the move the head, or so, it's a rigida.

The lastimast, I mean, I know, I see, but I'm sorry, but I'm, I've seen, the eye,

I'm going to see, and the eyes, I'm going to, I'm going to, no, Paco me know,

Paca, see. Pacco me know, and I know perfectly, I know, I'm, I'm,

and no, I'm, and no, I think in this, well, no, I, I think,

in what I'm , I'm, but I'm, but I'm no, because no, because it's, but it's in a testimony.

So, right, if I'm curious, that me maria. So, this is this this.

No, I can move more because the romp. Okay. So, what does, is the chavito

and the manika does this and see this is this behind, and the person, the

man, that this woman that's a woman, and chim, pump, pump,

pump, down, down, down, about, about, almost 25 escalones,

but, but, P-p-p-p-pastimed to The mom Dice, yeah The mama He said, in this case,

to the husband Dehate that Chim La Kier She was she She was she She was she She was she

When she When she They're in A little A new A little A strange of state

Alterated of Conscience In some point he presumed that there was a position That's

Descarted all And it was a sort of A Species of epilepsy, but that

he presented in the nada. Okay. And the papas they're saying, no,

yeah, well. So, you're so I'm a part of a collection that

we're going to start to have to have a year that I did, it was interesting

because much people say, Paco, take in good, take care much.

The reality is that part of the work that we're doing today. No, I've created

to say, Antonio, but I'm going to say about it's the investigation of the phenomenon. And to

investigate, not is the same, learn, than the practice. Oh, to be,

not only I want to that you, let us open. Adelante, me, see,

if I'm a, see, it's something I'm to come to hear if in the

video, you can see, see, my eyes, What I do is, um, I'm going to put like, what I'm, what I do, is like if, if, I'm up a carousel,

and so, that's the sensation that's what I'm here, the majority of the equipment, that when took the muke, they're, like, like a mareo, like a like, the sensation of when back's on an elevator, and you see that, you know, that's,

and you're exactly, that's what was what I sent you right, and to see, Hasiel, you have, the, see, the, point lapses, to be, okay. no there's a

ritualization of the object per se ojo I'm doing the thing for

my point of my point of my agnostic is septico yeah although me

provoked a a Mario raro so very so very so me no and

I'm that I am I no I'm so I'm so I usually

like like the proper Dante me I want a fetiche

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many people when he put scapularios or rosarios enredados, under the context religious of those persons is somete. Sure. It's,

let me, let me pass on the filial, for favor, that no, I know. Somete and eradicate, well, more well,

more well, more than, contine, contien, yeah, the mal. let's these

these for favor they're in the in the in the in the

in the in the in the in the the is the little so

me do you do you do I do you I'm I'm

I'm and you you you you you you're you

see the development what we're to pass to Paco

the herence of the muck is a a way to express

it is, it's like, I'm, I'm doing to give the custody. What I'm about to,

you're going to give the suggestions. And done that's for the person that me went to give

the moñica boy. I'm, I want to make a idea of this, we don't

get a photo, no, no, not did a narrative of incidentes and incidents

provoked for this object. My dear Paco, is the herence that we

give us of the agency Mexican of investigation paranormal for the that you have you

have been in custody and ohio and I do the batuta to

a Paco for the because the objects embrojors that we have to the investigation

Here here my career of an investigator friend I'm a good

good pataita we did that you give us thank because we're

we're going with the thing of investigation. You thank much for the confidence and of

really I'm sure that we're going to try cases that's interesting to all the family of

podcast extra abnormal. It's an honor, your padrino. Thank you. Thank you.

Much thanks. Thank tremendous object. Asiel, I'm going to send a

one one. One, one. Mm-hmm. of vidrio. If it's good, with his

circle of salt, with some things like, you know, you know, you know, the marionetta

of Birmania, too, we're not we're in a urn. Exactly. If, the more

containied the object, more. Exactly. Datto very important, Paco. For what

more you want, never can't never, I can't never, so,

okay, correct. How do recommend that's that you recommend right

that you know you have the urna envueled a way to do

do you the person that they're doing this this of the assyres and the rosario

yes so pertainse practically to the property the bobeda is a boheda

okay do that do you dovet perfect if you you have creencers

apply the creences religious if you you have a creency more agnostic

to apply in what you want to do you Asla in bovena, and when you in the exhibition, put it in the bobeda

of your urna, and list. And no, you know, you know, this mogey I've put two two times cameras in circuit's cerrado.

Uh-huh. You do the batota. Perfect. I'd more than you do you'd, what more would you do you do? Uh,

of actually, I've got, cameras of vision noctorn here. We're going to start with that. There's a, but I'd

I'd like to do a experiment in some moment occupying the sound native of the television that's a after you, you know,

that's a see, I'd say, could be. I think we can't experimenter, investigate. Of that's the investigation

paranormal. Sure. Oh, good point. Experimentations. You're elements electronic,

you know, you're elements analogous. Yes. Usal those to experiment. Tienes an object

enbrugated. Maldito as energy extrana. Use them to experimenter. That's.

That's a investigator. No, not a camera and yeah. Yes, no, no, no,

Papa. That's the investigation. Tremendrored episode. We're going to get an episode.

Bienvenile to the investigation. Thank you. Thanks, thanks for that patada of good

sufficiency. We're going to give us, we're going to let's find out of the audience, Antonio.

Thanks for accept the invitation. Thanks for to be with us Tukestepec. Reds social,

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