EXTRA ANORMAL - Mi Casa se Infestó de Actividad Demoníaca, Mi Hijo Pagó las Consecuencias | Ft. Torre Blanca

Episode Date: March 29, 2024

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with my Prima, I had five, he had four, I mean, and in the

moment of to pass on front of the apartment of my prim, he's he's

I'm don't know, I'm percato, we're going to the house,

I don't go, and he is looking and he's my room, I'm going with my

friend, and I do what you say, I'll perfectly, I'm, I'm a

little, a man, a new, no, like you, a transmustion and it was a

He was a lot. No. It was a little. He was a little bit of my prime, and in that moment is, what does this man, what does this man, we'll

see, we'll see a little, my primon pego a grito, and he's adient the stairs. And me says, you're going

to have to repeat this, and for favor, is of the moments more difficult that I say, beas what you see,

pass, what no abras the eyes I'm going to do this as soon and I feel perfectly

like I'm standing in this quarter I'm going to the recamara where

was this space and it's me postra in front it and then I said

to patty if you don't it's you know it's you repeat

the same and I did that and me he said this in front

of me I with the eyes Serrados. What I can't hear of

this thing, that was a little was a little, it was a little little

and said he said he went but in the other seven there were

another seven. What I'm going to be able to podcast extra normal. My name is Pacuarez and I'm quite because we're here in the city of Mexico. If we're in the set conventional, it's because we're right here, here, uh,

a year with a lot of many people and the other I'm really, I'm very content because the day of day of

today is a good friend, Torre Blanca. How is that? Much thanks, Puck, for the invitation. I'm very

content to be here to be here. I mean, we're just very much very content, very very very grateful.

No, thanks to you for at the world, so for to also for also for to accept the

invitation and for the people who don't you know, what you do you do you

Well, professionally, I don't do you know me I'm a lot of nothing to be with things paranormal I'm more more than I'm director of post-production

that's what is my but I have a storyal that they have to have been to some paranormal for so I'm

a podcast that the people can go to checker that is observator paranormal we had another we had called

testimony paranormal and actually the only that is observable paranormal. Okay.

Where they can find for the people that people who want to listen your podcast

all the all the platforms to put an observator paranormal and in all the platforms of podcast you appear

so yeah I'm like having a colleague that's that's that about the same

but we let's start this interview but before to start family you know

we know we're just we need the capitol for that if you not you're you're

new, you guys you're you guys the question of the project

that thanks to you we're we're yeah we're a

family thanks to all for the support. And we're to start

with this program for that you prepare, the light, or if you have to have to be

to be able to make a car, because yeah, I'm saying that they're doing labors to logar.

We're going to run. We're going to get in the phenomenon paranormal? Totally. It's a

phenomenon that's a thing. Okay. Okay. So, even because you know,

you know, you know, he's who is who is who he's a person, he a brother,

Anthony Samudio. And, and just this part that he suffered, that he's that he of the

of the child that's that's what I'm to be to be a new

to be any new. I mean had experiences paranormal, since I've told my podcast

various times in where I've an anecdote that I had I had I

my time with my friend with my friend, the both both we

did, many occasions so, but I say, I'm old school

then So I'm a senior orita of 40 years and in that time was oh no

the little he's he's supposed with his things Yeah so like no

prefer they're no or prefer they're so minimis it's like my parents my parents

yeah fall and but I'm now that I'm what I'm what I'm

what I'm what I'm yeah to talk about an anecdote that I'm what I'm that

that we're that we have talked much, because our, we know, the people

that consume in the podcast are parents young, we've mentioned much the part of the part of that you're

always to be doing what your little to say, not minimisar it. We've talked about many times

that this type of entities, not we're going to say demoniacas, but if negative,

or ashtral or they want to they want, they're in this acacementment with

little, so unfortunately the innocence and the pureza that they represent they're always going to

do an imam for these entities and we're going to we're not there's, there are occasions where no

doesn't happen no pas nothing more than a bad experience and a bad record that's but there

there are occasions but exist where the young can live an experience very

that can or costed the life or a trauma for all their life that's that is part

of my story from this phenomenon from the from the was to be entities,

to be able to be a lot of until that I have a man who is almost three years more than I'm

my friend imaginary. You've got to until the amigionary begins to get to get to

and he to try to me the little bit of my man to be how my friend

my friend to do the get to the repis to the to me seriously

because they did so many times that you am And then I mean, then I said, yeah, he'll be he.

Sure. Yeah, no, I'm so, so. So, yeah. And then he begins. A little. A bit, let's tell me that experience. I'd say, how lived this phenomenon

being a new. How began? Look, I've, yeah, of adult, to do various exercises to make to get with persons because,

oh, and that, that is very certain. Yes. These experiences, until now I've been to tell them, not, they're

not, are traumatics. someone who can't you can't it's difficult of the things that

I'm going to talk about are years to start digriending asuntos so there are

things there are things that I don't remember totally but there flash-assos

that I remember very of these entities or repilants to see

and be and and be a traumatic so I get a moment

of regression in my life, that yeah, I don't, yeah, I don't,

yeah, I'm going to do this point. But what I know, things spantosas. So, people,

like, they were like calaveras or sombras black, that's deformed, things that

I don't know, because there many people that say they're saying of their testimony,

and no is like what at least I've heard many people. Sure. You consider

that you have a don, or what you you've lived was more a

kind of an type of people, you know, you know you need to have the don't

to be, but the grade of manifestation yeah was a grade superior

in the which could be seen for any person. I

wanted I mean that I was because with this of I'm

not, but I do you know I'm doing I'm so I'm

so I met to the thing paranormal to understand that

to understand really and you I don't consider any special or have donees

but from when I'm presentable this type of things of know that

about to know to be things that I see a normal this

type of this this time I did it and you're the

strange and you and you think you and so you know the

fact of when the person not think to get to you get to

you see this this Disgracially, it's this attack, you know,

of your this, what on with you? It's a thing very interesting. But

some experience like that you'd like to share? Muchism I've been from example,

the time, the when I was a young with my prime, remont to

the history to 1985. Okay? So, so I'm in that moment the famous

Nintendo. Yeah. At the primarito. Yeah. Because empaned many

Marks. And result that we're Cenando, we're those primos, we're going to, we're five primos, my brother and I, other three primos. And these three primos, one of my prima was, like, of my age, another more

chico. So, the parents said, well, so, Kincenna, first, is the right to win, the right. I'm doing. The Ceno, I'm a friend, so we're, we're doing. It's a house that actually actually, is here in the city of Mexico, in Polango. Salos to my

primos, and then I was with him, my prima yeah he's got up to do this

a house there's a little, you know, you know, it's like, you know, it's like,

and you're so you're like, this this is a practice of adults, Bete, no? We don't

know, we're on the stairs, we're a car grand, three-pissos,

we're going talking with my prim, I had five, I had four, I mean, things of kids, and

in the moment to pass to the front of the apartment of my apartment, he's

I don't I don't I percat I'm going to the cell of I'm not I'm going

and he he's looking and he's going to my prime I'm

I'm go with my friend and I do what he says I'm I don't

perfectly I mean I think I'm a look at a new a new a man

a new no like you no a trans a phantom and he was

a was a man was a man being and in that moment is

what does this man he has this manned I'm a perfect it was a camisita

like fannela his pantalon was a pana like that I remember the texture of the

phantasmita yeah we'll we'll we'll see to see a little my prim

pagon a grito and he had been the the escalera and the

and he he was doing pip ohle I I'm I'm

I'm I'm And there is where it's where it's a all the role

that in that's in this place there's a man little yeah

and then I'm okay and why not they didn't they're and because

you see because he we we know we we know we

we're we're I'm okay but after that point

and then then they started now so the attacks of

that were the that were they were in present with me to

I didn't, I didn't, I mean, I mean, I'm talking that was a man, my mom,

me said, I'm going to do you know, if you're going to be to come to you, and I know at the

three of the morning, I'm going to see, I know, because I had experiences of that if I

didn't, because I said, my mom, no, the coco, no, the yeah,

do you, but then so, then, so, then, so, that's the thing, that's what I'm

that's the thing, that's you know, that we're We have also also tried the fact of what

the incident of a house inbrujada, where there's that's normally come to make, uh, to make,

uh, so, pass a tragedy, uh, falle, and this case, the child, but you consideras

that what you've in that time, the day of today you consideras that it was the spirit, the soul, the name of a

or could have been a type of entity that that occupa that characteristic physical for to make

to pass. I what I think because there two two contexts in this thing.

One a way is what you see what is what you see. You can see something

a sunbra to be a madrented and you can't be terrorifico and you

see quite you can't you even even to be a little he was a man you

were a man you. We're we're just like what Now, after

to investigate in camp, you know, the people that have these finales dramatic, and you can

say, from a spiritist, from people dedicated, then things like things very negative, in where

they're like a kind of a piece of this concept of anima in pen. Because

they're getting reviving his death all the time. And then this

new, what was going to the little, we were, we were, we're

all the ones, the four o'hombers in the camas of my primos. This is

a little of the window of the recamara of my primos is a third piece. And the night,

you'd a small that was a little bit and it. So, repeat. I was

so, then we had that we'd to get us the classic chim-champo of the

kids, to not get us in the oriel and see to be the night how

passed that sombre and it's because you're you're the angstia of

that It's impressive. I go that part, I've seen the time of how you've been repitient, but I've,

I've been with people that self-desivian. Okay. To get you repeat the same one and other once.

Fifate that it's impressive and very dolorous because here we're talking then then that really

if a infirno exists, it would be a something. It's that. I've

had been the opportunity to start in this time, then I'm people from

contacted, to bruchos, to mediums of incorporation that is very rare, I go very good this medium.

And all, like the parable of the elephant, that we're we're just describing the elephant, but we're describing the

same, all all this. What is that is that are just allmas atrapadas in a state

of a conscience, which is the denominado after astral or how you want to and there

are kept atrapadas. Okay. That is the problem that are trapped and that much the only that they're in

it's a transcendent, no? Imagine, look, imagineate you, that's like that's imagineate you diegically because

regularly it's so, and you die from the angustia, with the preoccupation, with all the things

materiales generally to generally the people who are the and in that and in that state,

and your conscience perduing and you getas totally in that buckle. Imagineate that in that Inferno, that is the really

Nobody's the Nobody does. Nobody You know, nobody you see. And you're going to and you're trying to to call the attention and nobody does. And, of course, you know, what happens to me, you're going to

go to the street and then to get, what do you? What would you? As if were to who were, then, if you were, then you're pegas. Sure. That's what's what is with the people

that is Medium, for example, or with the people that they see, those they're going and they they're they're a little that the doc

that much of the Kiddell podcast know it's a doctor that when he's got to we're much

the rostro okay yeah I'm said he he's said he's he said he again

and he he's covered much the rostro for not been attacked for the community

because really a doctor who think in this I mean you know you know

you know so imagine so imagine so he he's he can much his

identity actually is a person that no no buska, no has a channel, or so, no, there's a medium of contact.

It's a person who comes, to tell your experience and he's going. I mean, really a person a lot, a lot of passionate for the thing paranormal, and he has to be many things that more

I'll tell me, I'll tell you, you know, when I talk to stay at the other side. Sure. This person

me says the same. I don't I don't me cataloged as a medium, but I can't see,

from spirits to entities demoniacas and me them describe in a form so,

oh, and so aterrador because not is the demonio that much they're

they're they're they're they're a characteristic very different to a spirit

human. Because in a spirit human you see like a person like

so he and he he's like the got because when when you don't those

you know it's no doesn't not but when they're they're they're

they're so they they're so they they're And this acoso also

that I have heard that I'm that I'm that I'm I'm going in the metro

of the city of Mexico that's there has been there have been many much much

many so so I see I saw me on the windows

and getting me pass your message for that your

mom that's people who tryen attorado so something in

this plando terranal is impression and that is

what that I started and she was a because not that I know that I'm

not quite me accosal it's a total no they're so they're so they're so I'm

so I'm not I'm doing so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm

so that that thing is like it's like it's like it's like it's like you

you're they're they're they're so if you those notas if in that

moment those notas that that that conciencia will to be with you. And there is

where I suffer many years more or less about the of the 12,

13 years and me arto because it was not to be being,

the pressure of the family was not not to not to

do much and I get and I know, this what is and then

then since very little with my friends because my

people because they took to live things in my house

then they If it's that, that's too, that's too, and with my friends, we're going to start. I'm talking to a time in the which no, there's social, no,

there's Google. So, no, there's a way of that you're doing. I'm going to talk about, what you do that. It was,

metete. We're about the investigation, Nata, that I all the time mentioner, and for me is the better. So,

to get to the camp, get to, you, don't know, and to, is a time very interesting. But, but what is the

problem? Well, lamentablement, me pass to the extreme. Or so you, you do you goves of a program

that existed that I've called yackas? Yeah, yeah, yeah, putta. Ah, well,

I did that but paranormal. Okay. So, so what I said, look, say at last three of the

morning, you go to a panteon and you and you're to play a guy, so I'm

a guy, I got to a permission in the panteon and me to go out of a peddle

and the devil. And what was about? Well, no, it appeared the uncle the devil

but if so, so, What is what I'm going to make to do, grab them. Okay. With this theme that I'm talking, of that you're saying, no me creen,

because it's so divine a camera? Because no has a subjectivity. Yeah. I'm right to talk to million stories. But if you take a video, and as well, obviously, a good, a point,

a video or an audio, then the camera no interpreted or had hysteria collective. The camera lobeau, is. The camera lobeau. It's what it is. And then what we did? In that moment,

as no there was it was to get our investigations of other people? It's

on the TV. Ah, well, they're going to pass things

when I'm so, it's that's the TV? Yeah, no. Is it? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The TV. The TV. The

TV. So, he'll ever to enter to YouTube, look. No, no, ma.

Yeah. No, you can't do you for this, if it's if I'm all right.

Disconnected me. The net when the people when those people they're going to

me and then I'm rio and I'm I'm going to I'm 403 years. We have yeah.

We're going to be able to be it. We're going to we're going to let's talk to be this is the first graduation that

we're doing here in the city of Mexico. Daly. never never had never

we've been in different edifices uh... right what I'm what I'm talking about

here toroblank is that we we need we need a radio in the audiphon

the theme of static is very strong so so they're and they

were signals of radio with the grabada we have the grabbora those

microphones and in the audiphon I used I was so Like, how is that I have a station

right and I'm doing, I'm trying commerciales of Walmart or or something. So, yeah,

we're not we need here this place is that there's a place that there's a time that we're

we're coming the set. It's generated a real blanco. Ooh. Ooh.

Sintiss. So, then I'm I'm accorded of the Spiritibox that precisely

is that and I I'm going to Hasile, my brother, I'm prudent to be a question.

And well, Hasil is a little meados, my brother, my man is maddened

and I'm like, and I'm like, do? And I'm there? There's there?

No, there's a second. And the focus started to, I'm gonna, I'm gonna,

what, there are, there are things here? No, see, when, when,

excuse me, but is that, that I, that I said, literally, that I said, when

did the question, the Luses started to and so, so I don't let me to say,

I'm going to say, but they were three words. Tak, tak, tak. So, something said,

in three words, I know what it was, but in the RID Blanco, it appeared. Apparce.

It's not. Where did the sycophonias? Exactly. Exactly. So, here, here, here,

there are things. So, here, here, there are things. And, and definitely I said,

I'm not we're going to move, we're here to work, we're going to work,

we're doing, but, but what what's the right with the no, we're going to see this

this camera. This is this camera that's the camera that's to put to something, it has to have to happen,

so it's, but I see when the television, it's impressive but it's it's really, but it's

that's not normal. Yeah, that's what you say, that's all the I'm going to you know,

I was a, he's a year, he's a imagine that that's that's so it's so it's

so it's it was really very, very, very difficult that they said oh, you know,

you know, I don't I'm playing nothing, how I'm how I'm I'm that I'm

thank thanks me made the example of what I did you do you

okay that's what that's that's so it's so it's a phenomenon that I

me has seen you I don't I've seen this for a good, I'm

I've in this for And then he got me TORO for the quernos

and I met me to get a intrepidness Let me let us let me have said,

me repinted to be that one of the one of the one of the one that's something something,

I don't see there's a this is terrible never I've been I'm talking no I'm this is the

indicated look talking just with Anthony Samudu he he met

to the house of the Tia Tanya. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to I'm in

the time I'm going in the 90s. It's, not not my my,

my, my house but I want to understand the phenomenon of a way to be

this, this this is this this is this we're going to do that we're going a formation strange.

My father was a chemical biologist parasitologist totally scientific but also a the way

was hipp hippe and the 60s. Wow. So it was a real shaman

chaman conciency know. Jacob. So, so imagine that's influence. And I'm

inculcoe always, I mean, I'm going to say with words more light. Only a don't know of what you

knowse. Sure. If you talk, it's because you know I don't know I can't

get only with my proper experience and this place. I have to get to see this

is so this so. So, so, who says, no, what's a legend? The house

of the Tia Toh. Let's the house of the Tia Tanya. You went to

Samudio that's Exploration? No. I, for my account, in that time, with my friends, we went to get to the house of the Tia Toña. Yes. Dados a context for who don't know what is the...

The House of the Tia Toña. It's a place in the third section of Chapultepec, in where I don't know if this is still equal. But it had the rumor that this place was abandoneded

and they were misas negras and they were things satanical there into. And it was metterter because it was like maldito. So that was

The Tia Toña Perdied in the third section in Chapotepec for who is from the city of Mexico or for who

not know there's buske I'm in middle of the nada right now now is much more

more abitado but it's we're we're not mainly for the I recommend to the

mala without without because no there because no and we we're

to get and we're we're we're oh no mach because

possibly if you see things very raras I'm you can't you know you've seen

you've seen ghost in the sombre of love that's that they're to be

to be in those arboles okay that's those they're around they're around of us

and hear like peteras pegando in all those but yeah in

the moment there's the policeie and what does the thing I'm the truth

I'm but obviously the police what they said to be chomacos

I had I had 17 years I'm going to so they're so they're so they're no pass

nothing more because we're some chambacos that's imagineate that's ridiculous no because you

go to go to go to caras phantasmas so so so that's I'mpe

to do but yeah after I'm just I'm so irrespectuosos as like like you

like to get me to get me a penteon and you're you begin to

start the respect and Grave error. Gravissimo. Grave, very grave.

My recommendation, it's my camera, no do you do they're never. So, this is very serious.

And I'mpe in that line. What's the when you guys? Because, because there was a time where, for

example, a retort of TikTok, it's a certain type of retos. Agarra your tablita,

bet to the Pantion, invoke, even they've got to a wika, fiatel the absurd of

this. I don't see if you've the video. a whiha but it's a whiha

Christian where invocas but invoques to the Spirit Santo I don't have seen no,

that's a man, it's a thing that's an absurd I said I said, I said this

is the most absurd but, but brother so so you know, so that's

so to be the table still a table wika and what you what you're what you're

like you do you is like a table conventional There are so, for example, of the things that I investigate, of the that I think

that's the thing is, no is the object. It's like the Cuchin. You can't embarrar the mantequian in a pan or go in the back on the back on the back. What is, like, Osamodio, without a table, with a vase,

two servietas. No, is the object. The intention. That's, so, the voluntat of the intention of the intention of the things is what it important.

So, then you can literally, a table of these the markers popular Mexican, be the same that if you let's get to

curate to the Brouja of the North of no-se- what-trapes. It's the voluntary of the people

that are there to do. I was in my house. In my house with my family I'm in

a pass and I don't know of this things, he went to do you get into the house,

we've done all the things that if we had, if it's if it's got to this bottle

we he had moved. All right. Weissed in the house, we have to wehah

and wehah. And we're going to be. If this if this is move, it's going to be to be able to

do you. So I'm here in a pantheon to see the devil. What's the pantheon? I don't know

I've done never, I'm going to be a lot of the lights, they're going to start on the postes of the

places of the places of the car, that so it so it's so we're and we're we're

that the day to day of today I'm that I'm It's a voice of a woman But what happens is that Like, as if it's not It's not even

Irresponsable We went to those They've got to Sepultar in that moment That they're like They're like They're in there We're getting there

And we're To get it over Literally Arribal Arrived of Mort To be And there And there is

We're We're having a psychophonia Andras We're passing For these Criptas And say The voice

A voice of a A voice of A woman let us talk about us talking X agarate my amor but we'll

we'll come another anecdote in a while does with things when when you when you it's like

that you pass with other of these in Aguas Alaskalient was they came

and me and me they said no it's like you know it's like the charro never

so appears the Yorona it appears Gasparin so no no man all all they're

all over all and I went this this place were at the plenas 12 of the day and a candelabro enormous that there was a little bit, they began to move.

In Aguasca, it's a seismic. It's a seismic. It's a bit of spanty. Yeah, see, what I did what I'd say. Nobody could live there. I said, okay, me, me to get to, you're going to get me to, let me get.

I'm kept in this place. When you investigate a place, is an abitac, you have a map, you have to see, so, you do does a seguiment, you have your camera, it's,

the Lager to tell a time at a lot of this, so it's a process that the person

romanticize that's, I said, me went to investigate and they imagine vestitos of

Rambo and here here we have a person Mexican that no us

has made to be put to the investigators. It's a

hardbo and a middle of too in all this

I did I'm many several years I don't

exactly nothing nothing more more more than I can share.

We're trying to open the only quarter that not is this place, and

he says a voice of a man, I'm trying the grabbora in the hand.

That's a computer? Capting audio. Caughting audio. Uh-huh. The I've got

in rec. They're trying to bring other two chavos and it's a voice more

more than a year, or I'd have to be a signora, saquen those to

but not you think that no clarito? more than my, Sacken those from here.

Is it right? It's worth it. The last week. Wow. Reviso, that's another the task that not much the investigators. Revised all the material

is a thing really tediously. Yes, because me has passed in the explorations that in a camera I grab three hours and is

see them, revise. And no you can do you know I'll salt to this part because

you know you know in what fragment of the video there's there's a pass and then you get a pass

and then you know nothing so imagine it's just that they say that's no, well.

That's always I say no, not because you know because you get to Google,

you know, you can't you take some resum to see my investigation that's not that's not

so no so for that Like I if I do so, I'm just a bosser, but there are an investigation you have to get to get to get

after if you can do the archivistoric to get the place. See, see, see, see. So,

see, all the possibilities. No, no more. They've seen that. They've got to, no.

So, what happened with this sir? Yeah, after the years, various,

various, many months to be, the only that I'm the only that's the only that is this.

And then this year, this year and this family is to Sulta

yore incommod a situation incommod number because all the family

and so oh no you're a yeah it's a family result that

that I was that they're in the was of your mother was a year of

her that's what really is where you you know and you're

a she was a brother yeah when when

fall to the 40 years enter to they're to

Sackan their things, not, to desacers to make to make them and they're

to discover photos in macetas calendaries with some signaries, affiches is a

horrorisa the family and they they're they're and they're and they they're

to get a espantar so what me contested no is not the Charro

Negros and Gaspari and yeah the Yorona my question to the her

20 years that me that's or so, that don't toke in those things.

That's. What's okay? Your friend Yakaas said, he said, Abramme

the quarter because I've been there's a little. You're not open me the quarter

I'm there, I'm open the quarter I'm open the only that's like if

a group of rest me and would be running that's that's what is what you

do you do you do you? I'm I'm I'm I don't want

to look to but Yes, yes, yes, so let's have to archivar it. And resulta that in this investigation is what is what you hear. But these calendars, the family was they were very present because they were they were to a date of a tia that they had

in where this family, that fellacida, bruja, he had marked and died that day. Okay? I'm talking to that the senior and was a man, more or less than 70 years, the husband of, like, 60-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-and-a-and-and-and. And her daughter, a woman of 35 years. So, they were horrized because the Tia has fallen.

Me, I opened in the court, and the day next, the daughter of 35 years of pneumonia, fulminant. Wow. And then, then, then, then, because, you're going to be able to.

Then I said, no, until here, so it's about the thing. Bye. But what interesting, because if you could have continued, imagine the information that could have

have realized. But it's where are the first topes that I started to confronter where you get to the head, where you're not a drama, you're saying about you're talking to people or persons fallacized, problems familiar, very grave. So,

yeah no is the chistecito, the sombrita. There is where it's where. But with those, me vented muchismas, so, so, then I've, the people can't look at rest. There's one that I told ago

that's a little that in Awas Calientes in a radio diffusora famous

I don't want to say the number because well the chance you have to get

them's but the cameras of the security of the place. You know

that's more? It's more not even if your production and this

number you can censure if your production it can do you do you

call a par that's called phasas and the radio the

radio. I don't the chavo that that was that experience with my brothered, that's

that's all and why is the video of cameras of security because we we're going to work

and to work and to the morning and it result that you yeah if you want that experience

we can't we need to get to we've got to get so the hour zero so it was

it was a process uh a process this this place I mean if you

I'll this this place this place is is a place in the

center of of the water's and then all you know, you know, here spantan

and here see in the ruse the brujas chaldufa and there many people want to be

a experience want to live a experience that not not that's not that then I

think ah yeah well I'm I'm I've been I'm I'm

working on this place with my and in some point we're we're in the ballastras

or so, neither the brohscaldufa, or a ruidito, nor, and a grillo. Nothing. Okay.

So, in a day, a terrible day. We were talking more or less of the time of April and we we're doing about 2,09,

more or less of April. Yes. And we were three people, my brother, Raffa,

who's the video, and we're not we're talking because in April, in Awascalent there exists

at the Ferea Marcos, and there much content that's the Ferea Marcos. It was a

television I don't know. Yeah. We'll get us to this time. And in some point, more than

at the night, me said my friend Raffa, oh, we're only, we tell you, I'm going to do you're going to

put on what? I said, no, it's in serious because they have been the light of the

baby of the women of the women. There were there were, people, the channel. I said,

can be Raffita, claves, let me. Bye. Well, there with that experience

he starts to talk to talk to because we can't talk because we're in a quantity of one

in the Roma here in Mexico very very very certain we're here. We have

a experience and he starts and one of the things that you can say that's a factor

totally relevant is someone is someone is something is like if you

have done to a man to a fear total if if

if someone is if someone is spantado is this all what

possible for that I'm trying I'm I'm going because many times we're

to get to get a we're to get to get what we're doing to do we're

doing we're and so and if it's empirically you can say that

it's it doesn't know and Raffita was really really spantado

and this was talking there there's there there's there

there that's indescriptive I'm I can get to to to prove

to confirm of an MF, a meddor of Camps Electromagnetics, more than a psychophonia that could appear.

It's a certain sensation in the body of alert, very rara, very strange, without explanation.

There is where the Sikeke starts to get to get to because you know

because I think I'm that's going to, but as something I grew with that,

I know perfectly that are that's things. And then I'm going to

have the sensation and I think my brother my man my man cackate

no you know you're yeah call you said you you're you're

you're you're kind of yeah we're not we're we're we're

we're we we're subing I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm between those monitors I'm I'm a other

company of the other company of these and in this I'm moving my car

to be between the monitors and I'm this space see a a sombra that pass

so I'm kind of I'm kind of I'm up to see and I'm and then then I go

he did do you do you what you're that is what I'm no see and then

then this this sensation starts like more to be to be my friend my my friend

Raffa my friend Raffa having a phone he was connected in

his No, I don't do you. You know, we'll see, yeah, cackett,

you know, call it, we're going to do you know more. It was a song of a group

that's called on Roses, he's up. Termina the song and something, and something

that I know what said, between like eruptos and grunied and he starts

to say a little. The father is that this is in camera. Then we're

we've So we went up in these Islas of edition and these Islas that

there were for the employees they were the camera I gotro on front

in the camera of the camera and I go to the passio and me

see my my man we we're we're so so

so so I'm so poor Rafita yeah he's black

I'm let me let me let me let me let's for you to

relaxes Yeah, because I see that there's a there's a one of the we're going to get him we're trying

and we're going to go to come to the and he says Raphita not we don't we're

soles I said because or there air-conditioned it's a channel of television

it's like if you you had you had you had the air condisoned he's

like how you how you like you how I'm look and the

persianas are persianas are perciana are And I said, no, look, no, no,

pelle. Surely someone someone gave a window. I'm trying to lavourly the cocoa.

If I go, yeah my man, let me go and I'm back, and I say, you need to

help me distractle it because this yeah not going to get back so, so we're

so we're, then we're we're going to talk to something, we're and of these escalas

have been like a tube of metal. And yeah we're we're we're

we're we're we're from pegando with a money I'm like

sub-subing so it's like it's yeah he got he he went

and I'm almost you know 11, 12 of the night the time to fere

was normal yeah to get to get to the person not there nobody and then

there so there I said he said armando yeah the sensation is

very incoomod raffa yeah not we're we we need

no we can have to have to And there if they're to peg her, they're going to

gole, the muebles that are in the other departments. Today is how it's how it's not

a put to a door to the studio. I said, no, so no we're not to do it,

let's, what you see in the cameras of security? Well, I see the hour,

three of the morning when it's going to see this. And we're we're going to get to the other day,

my brother no, no, he came to get the time we were we're,

we're, we're, we're going enter the Tiro with the Gepa. Fernanda,

we'll know a word Fernando Leal, that was the head of that's the person,

we're we're more more people, and I said, where's this

that's the I'm and then you're going to be to think, but I'm

this. And then then then I don't know so I'm so I'm there, so

there's, so, acabal, not, not say, invent a question, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm not no problem. You know, cameras of security. You are the jeffa. Consultalos. Cela hour. 3 of the morning.

Velo. Ah, yeah. Pasa. We're going to eat. Regressed to come. No, there's nobody in the officeina. All right. All right. And it's the video that you can't see in in resuscil. In where

of this video, it's like from the passage, it's like anthropomorphic as in piernas, that's out of the passillo and get and we're

and we're we're sitting and we're we're we're just the time that's the thing that

you know I'm talking about you know I'm told this person me said that I'm a company

a company departmental a not we're not we're not going to mention a name

and he said and that he was in the department of security where they're with their radio and

they're there various monitors the cameras that are the cameras that are So, this person Ingresses, is new.

She has been experience with the theme of security. I've been a policy. So, enter to work, all very normal. She may tell that those who are in this part of security

for this company start in the night because are turns of 12 hours, both of night, and the day, so she when when she comes,

a person when is new always, I try to or at least the first For the few months, procured

to be a very exemplar to be going to be going to get to get it. To get it.

This person me said that she had in the thing paranormal, but

for certain situations that have been not so very far as day really practically actually

that she does vaneska. She's she's not to be to be not at the morning,

it was like the one of the morning. Okay. So, she had contact

also with people that monitoria other other other other from

Mexico general it was a general, he was also a camera she was

there in the emasen but saw that a person female was about

a passio with direction to so she she says okay

let me go-nors me my radio and me give whatever thing

of security and said all she said that

someone that's she While she's going to to be in communication with a companyer that's in another place, not there,

but that I'm not there, but that I'm the option to be cameras. So, then you, you know, you know, I'm reporting that I'm going

to the person in the person, in this moment, he's going to do that you communicate for that you

need to be security, for that I'm that's security because I don't know what type of person say,

if a person with a, pardon, with fail in their facultes that can going to do to do you

communicate, no? Violent. Violent. So this, this chica was about to the banos. Before to get to the bathroom,

she'll hear that there is a little to open the door and you see that you see that of the mano

with his doors and she begins to open one of one, despite, no, no,

no, he gets to the ultimate and it was to listen to something, but he

tried to try, but he said, he said, he encere He enceiled.

He gotcha and see a a woman see the the feet of a woman but the feet of this

woman were some extremely horrible. Those feet socius but her skin was like

a little grisacea like carcomida but she not had fear because she thought that was a

person in condition of the and she he gets to goate and you know

that's there's there Salte, for favor, this, no demoral the authorities

in the time. In that moment she's going to get in the entry of the bathroom,

expecting to get in the radio suen, and he'll say to his company that he

had been and he did you, checked your cameras and in your cameras and in your

caras no you've seen the time I'm I'm trying to do I'm I'm

but what I know no is nothing. Even I see to pass

to no, there's nobody. To who, you know, and in that moment Paco, my heart,

he's aceler, when you get there one of the morning, a man, a man,

a man, a man, a man, he comes, and he was a certain point, I was septica,

because he saw someone physically, no, he was a phantasm. Like what I did you

of the name, so, so you know, so, so you want to want to

the door, and this this is every there's nobody. In that moment, she's but I said I, in

that moment I was bad. Yeah, I was bad because I started to start, I'm trying to go ahead and I'm going to say, mandam my

support, send me support, and yeah, the last thing is to get to where was her base, where she went to her and dismenecerse.

What she remember is to start, because in the place where there was there was security, they got to get an,

they found, they're trying in the piece, desmayed completely. that part As much

me impression much because me said Paco, a nobody to have told, I don't

do you know I'm able to tell to my chiefs, I know, so I know the

person who was accialing but to the person to the manager of the so I don't you can't

tell anything with what I'm going to be to be a bit a phantasm I mean

I'm not you're I'm trying being in my work being trying to

start and say that an aborto, for being a phantasm I'm a calle. Me lo calle

and he says at the moment that's I'm writing because I'm impotency. And we'll let me say

this phenomenon when you live is really not something is something you can't be able to assimilar it

so for you is a process very long to say in serious that I really I try to

revivable try to try to try to to understand globally things that in that was very difficult

were treated much more but gloratively that right right now right you're now you're a new

in where you not you're not you're not you're not and you're not and there's much access to the information

so. Before no for so there are many many many investigators Ah ha many

investigators no but no but no there me in the the foundation me took to say, well,

to say, to say, to be, what I do, what I'm, what I'm, I'm a place, a

place that I've presented a activity paranormal, incredible. Yeah. What I go? Because, you know,

at that point to say, to see, to know what I'm, I'm, my ray of protons,

so, what do you do, I was, I had I in psychophonias, we'd, I'd,

to do you, to make, the pendant, and he, and did, And this, it was and it's

so I'm a video also. So, what do you know, you know, you know,

you know, now the question that I do you the same, what's the question, what I'm,

that I'm, that I'm, that's doing, that's, no, no, it's, I'm,

we're going, we're going, we're going to try to understand, we're trying to understand that's

other people, other cultures, what is what they're in the thing, and then you can

to look now in the access to the information the the Tibetans

that have their way of think they're in a campanas they're

they're in their rithes they're rithes of purification many of these

many of these is to purification it's to be in state in where

obviously connect them with different different realities for this

this is never to this that he mentioned is a

frequency and exist in many other frequencies. Not know what you can't get to you, what you

can't be that you can you know, a question. A example rapidissimo if interrupita, man,

a person that has a person who has been a auto-lesion if listen a frequency

that you impulsa security you could to give to that person do that does what

that person if you're doing, or because really in TikTok is where it's where they're in Virals, these things, that's going to say, no,

no, no, do it's very dangerous. No, know if it's a frequency adequate for you and for you,

because not to all the function. So, oh, there. This is of the experiences more

for the times I'm I'm not going to be that I'm to say, I'm going to the television,

what I go here. We're going to we did this and what we did you is we'll a campana

tibetana the campan the campan not you don't know as a kind of a piece of

a palito has a name and they and what he generates really this

campana are the condas a frequency. If it's certain that there

a reactivity to the ones in these entities for

so when there is something that not necessarily can get to get to

paranormal affect the human has a normal the

ones of the We said that, we studied mantras of protection to do the invocation, and we've seen one that supposedly, it was, it was that you, you know, that's

negative of the place, for that they get in the negative of you, and we did, we did, we've been with someone who's in all this issue of, the, of, the, of the, of the, of, the, of, the, of, we know, we're going to get to do, no?

Before to say to the father, here there's a, because a, well, for you because the most what I do I'm a I'm going to and I'm

going to get with our car and our and it's of the most the most fertes a part of

my grabator no did not work oh this is it's

we're we're we're we're we're we're we've been we've been

a video that I'm that I'm that's if I'm going I'm going to see a person

passing in a place where there is there we're going to we're we're going and

In all the things, what I'm going to say is, not is something that me informe

with the Brucho of Catemaco, it was to try to protect us to get us so.

So we did a circle of salt that's for the protection and we do we do that

for the thing, that's they're all many things. To be to see what to me

refer to investigate. Well, they're saying that not exist and not say it

is certain to do it to be that could be to that's that

were in that's that's that we're a lot of a lot of a lot of I'm

a lot of I'm sure I'm remember the don't don't I'm don't know

with the belles with you dorex and oh so so they then so

they're so they're saying that you perci you know because because as we just

we know we're there's there's there's a thing that's that's

there was a thing we're we're Lamparas, grabada, camera of

video. And then, before that we didn't to say, it's a soundition,

that they're, they're a hand to get a palito, and let's to get to the urnors. Okay.

And then it would be a row by there, another, so it's so, and that's,

of the nothing, that is, that is to be to listen to in the

audio, between two horns in front of us out a silhouette of a person no he'll not can't know

to know what it to be a almost 50 meters more or less of them my altitude I'm at least a minute and

my altitude and he kept a parada I'm I'm in this moment I said yeah

you know you know not you think you don't no no of a tyrone

to the of the natural. And so on the the techo or the trancas or the gras.

So in some seconds it's per all the lampars are the camera and the

camera is and the thing. And this thing, because there and not it was

to be to be the nav industrial to up to us. And then

then we we'll talk about is it's we start us we're we're

we to do to do a campan a little to do the

protection no there's where experiment for the first first

what is the difference between being and being a

terrorized okay enter you in a in a in a in a

state in a kind of that you try to similar

after because your Cerebro no can't say the people in the

people in social, has been in this kind of sort of circuit of that your your cerebral

not can't to assimilar what you you're doing but you you're doing? So, and then

you're like a state rarro of shock? Yeah. That's is what happens and

this thing and there is where the fiesta. Because not just it's that it. There,

and then to hearse in all the fundition that I heard in that's I can't

hear the record the grabator regressable so they're in the

people they're in the way they're they're they're they're

they're to get to get and then the front of the back

of the people like a gutural that did this actress for the

exorcista grittando so that's that's that's a woman but it's

really from there a real a a veradderer a They're infestated.

Total. Wow. There is where many, no, I know how time, it's

segments that the fact abhorred. Totally traumatic for the three that we're there.

I mean, if any of them could say that's the same, years after after

after we about this and the three. No we just we want to talk to

this experience. We're we're, so we and then in some point

this thing of that up that's that's that's that's

that's it's it's like a make a imagine it's like like a

kind of to get a so that but it's the he's the he's like

a little so it's sort of a old of the natural

and all unison boom pome so no no

there no no no no no there's no there

and we we don cangros there in the middle like, and now,

we, who's, who? Who's, who's, what you know, we're doing? We're not,

we're doing we're doing, we're so you're the difference between the MED? No,

reactions. You know, your ideas start to be confusas. Yes. The MED as, you

are you are very altered, you're at two milliseconds of desmaling to desmaling to,

then your brain starts to try to have to have a reactivity to connectate

other again You have experiences terrible So, so if it's really

that you're so I'm so, I'm saying so I'm we're saying we're

and then we're and then in some point Raul says let us

how we we're we're we're we're going to plan to come we're

because and if it's yeah and the car is there out

oh my God one two three we we're and after

eight years we we've we've to comment that

experience, that experience that I commented, I go, that's what I was about when I was 30 years, no? That's more,

it's more, I mean, I was, I mean, I was 28 years. What's the pasted eight years after that was like, okay, what you've

seen, because now we didn't talk to this? Orita, I can't, I can't talk to talk to.

To be, to do you, because it's how I did to do to you. Sure. No,

it's something that's, kept parado in front. Yes. No it's

no it's been translucid. The Vee. And that did that had been 40 minutes

all of that show. It's a time that when I hear this type of relato

I'm imagine all that much people that in this moment

or they're in the podcast is very aterrador. It's very aterrador

because this is more more than the fact I love the slogan

that we're the reality that inspire the fiction that's a movie because it's the reality and here

we don't we're saying we're saying we're not that it's an experience that you make a

that can you can't get to have problems psychological if you know it's how

overjever and that many people simply block in this record

and they they're like a sonne one because I've talked

with people that have been that when you're narrating, they're saying no

I'm going to my mind. My mind me made that was a dream

but it's a reality, so I did it. So, so experiences

that are really are very and getting to this point. I would

hear the story that you said in a little of your son? How

is that that's after this experiences fertes that I've talked

where it's because then it was And he no he doesn't for these

things what I have to be in house and then I'm so

so I'm so it's a abremme and I'm and I'm going to get into

the house then then I'm that my person that I'm because I'm

I'm there's I'm there's there I'm gonna talk about a patruia

well I'm because no no no I'm when I'm when I'm when I'm

my my friend my and you don't you can't even you can't you

can't you The sir, me he says, no, no, not they're

not, no, I think we know, we're going to go to us other day,

I think, yeah, I'm to do this, because what, he said, ah, is that,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going, and I started to my carbe,

and I found me, I'm, I'm not, I'm not, I'm a little, and is that,

they're, they're, they're, done me, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm So, me to beches of brusheria, whewesos, what that I encountered. So, yeah, it was a point in that the perros, he ladrabanded to the house. Carregers to stomars tomm. Carregers tomming. And then, there's where I don't nominue, and it's been a pestered the life. In a manner absurd,

all what is in your life starts to disbandse. In my

case, I'm my relation, I did the job, I

did, what in that was absolutely the car, all what you

imagine all the thing. I kept really in the car

in the car be very very way of health, I've got six months

and I'm I'm going to you know, I'm sorry, so you know, so you know, so when you know

to this thing to yeah no is a drama yeah this is serious, yeah is

another the perspective and and then retomar so, let us say, let us

to bring to the normality it costs a years, a years, no costs a two days

not it's like the And in one hour the protagonist is a real and the malo is going to

take a year to get a remontar for the way in the question. What is

what I'm what I'm what? Of the last experiences that I've is

there's the religion Yoruba Yeah I received Mano of Urula I know

I know of the religion Yoruba okay because it is this religion?

A to be, and to be that's, and so, and then it was a question in that I don't,

I don't want to be in this, no? But you have been in you're still in. And then then let's

see. Yeah. What is what so does? Because these, these artilugios that these people do you

don't, then it's like, ah, well, I don't want, I'm, I'm,

no, I'm, no, no, no, no, no, no. So, then I'm, I was able to desacement

so, and I I don't think who I said, it's more you know you're saying hugh-jule

no, well, I think you can't do it. It's very complicated. And if

you do this, this will be terrible. So, I've carried these artiluvius

much time, much. Until that I'm my little, and he had,

there's, there's, there's a video, you can't show, I'm not going to

make it, but to me he's to you're good, he's, well, No, great.

He had two a year-tos. And I went with some friends that they're doing to do make invited some

programs to talk to they've been an investigation and they were going to things, not they

had been like that a messura. And me had been invited to a program to participate

to talk of the great Josue Velasquez. Okay. To I'm a

man a grand, I'm a a grand saludo. Salus. And me asked about of him, the chabot

that he asked, maybe, if not is sceptic he, he's just a little burlone like, oh,

in serious, you think, he said, this is this not is, this is cotorreo. No, no,

of Josue. And so he's started in his set very rare. And so as we passed right

that you put on the time, there was a moment in that they had a set, a wiga

in the part atras and they they're they're and they're he said, no,

you know, you know, and I think perfectly that what there was there, the same

phenomenon that I've said that I've said, is, I go, and there I'm going. There's

I'm not not, I'm not got to get a moment in the which you

don't know you can you can't you make you you know to the house and

a part of that night, all dorms tranquill in question of a second of a

time, my house was called the horror of Amytyville. Of what? My my wife

was totally septic this, yeah, so, nothing to in a time,

in a time, and in a week, and in a second, because, because yeah

was insupportable the the man was always every day in the madugated, she had

piped the fear, it's up the head this

very difficult my mano or so difficult in that we're doing because the first you

think you in the thing is it has it's a people just basically for the

young not. Professionals of the health. So, I'm I'm

people of the church no he's to get to to my

his more than the people of the the escalera the escalers

and in one a time we're all we're in the escalas dorms at

trincherated in a quarter and a friend and a manned a great a braus

my friend somebody we had we're having a time of the media

social and then I don't I don't have the same said right they're

where you don't where you're in the court of my house because past

this situation and with all normality me I have I'm a

patty I'm a patty she's yeah for this I've been tentated many things in this

semester that's and no funer nothing I said in serious let me

she she's she sure so and then then so yeah it's like

yeah it's just it's all I'm a day I'm not I'm not I'm

my mother my mother and me said I'm I'm always so horrized for favor do you don't want to

enter that house you know they're going and preending the lights you know do you

and then I'm valentonado with the things that I'm saying and I'm saying my things reprendi

you had so you did you like that that's and some he went to to be to

get to my to be all these things that you know you're like this

no? And in some point I don't get to comment to my woman because I know that in that

I wasotable and she had taken an avion sibahto the the quarter of my

he was where was the most affected they were they had many many peluches

still they had some peluches and then in some point that I

was in the peluches standing all so they're all

they're they they're not no more that all the same time

they're but so you know so you know like they're like they're so on the those people

all those all those just like in the it's like in the but that's just for

that you get you you're a medrented it's a little I'm I'm able to

I'm he said I'm he I'm after after to have

after I'm with her with all the dulcura that characterisa me

don't you don't you preoccupies, we'll talk about you're going to you're going to

find out of okay patty never I've talked about this Paco the first time that's the first I'm going to

get to get to get to we're going to take photos we're we're going to

where patty to take to come to come to mannem me say I'm saying yeah

I'm I'm sure I'm so happy yeah yeah see me let you

re-invue your photo me me the and in the recamara It's one of those

speyses of the whole that's they're in rectangular and it's and it's

a bit of a little a silhouette that's a smearer that's you know I'm

really, you know, thank you and it's a somando and see the rabbiio and he's

there's a look, see, see, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, let me connect with, I'm, I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not

what you do you know, connect, connect, you use Wi-Fi what what needs

but yeah, for favor, help. There's where to your public to do you know, I'm

really in this for the people that need to the people who have suffered those who have been in

this. Something you say, see, if you get that it's a thing that strange, I don't

want to not even mention that was this thing, and is being called with your

issue, effectively, and there is where me and it comes, it's like a batazzo

in the case, me said, he's a casualid Juan, you have something,

you of brujery in your house? Something? And I said Like what? Of the

casuality you have something to have been with santaia? Yeah. And then he said,

well, yeah, I'll talk. I said, but I don't you can't do this, and I said,

and I can't and I'm the only person that has been that's the only person

that I'm the video that I can't this quote I was like like we're and my my little

and said oh my look at a little bit of why you're why you're you're not you're

don't know if you're you're you're doing my mom yeah and he what does

my mom is there is there is crying the that's not that's not no

some of those those kids so so yeah and then he's

he's you know you're you want to you want to you're Oh, you, Sack, what you have to Sackar, no?

Sure. No. We said, I'm a message. Yeah, it's not. You know, maybe that your son has been

Bomitus. Is it mandating the message? And atras, bleh. So, like a

liberation. As to count. Just what me said, that's what he said, it's wrong that's a

vehicle. Yeah. Because they they're they're with you. They're they're doing

the distance. No, it's a Japan. This exist in other type of reality.

Clar. Vinculating with you, it's me said, yeah, it's not it's the

some symptoms normal. He's going to this. And then it's imagineate

that's like the and you have to have a lot of the susto?

Well, those have just calm to make a session, and she

he's a last a long distance, for that can't of disvinculars. And those are that's, oh,

that thing was spantosa, espantosa, spontos. Never I've talked to. A cada one of us, video-jamada. So,

then you say, look, let's, it's like an exercise of meditation. Relathate, concentrate

in your respiration. Then you say, okay, your body is the that's the can't

and then you don't know, and then you don't know, and I was done, and you have done with all

the family Luis Solace. your son has 14 years no I can't do so

your your woman is in this that's that to the

people or more mean negationista of I'm enciero no

and then it's very difficult you make because it has to be

you and your and your son you're you're going to have to do

you you're you're you you're because if you're

that has been you you tell you put this your your body my

can't so okay for where where is no and it's very rare it's very very chistoso

it's been so I've talked about with people that's you know you know you know

you're a and your body so you're controlling or so it's so it's for the

so your mind your mind is so like this how no and so

so and so so in a point to you know so that's what you pass to me. And me

you're going to have to repeat this and for favor, is of the moments more difficult that I'm going to see, beas what you

see. Pase what pass. No, you haveras the eyes eyes. Oh, and

I'm going to do you really, Juan? Yes, see, see, a very,

I think I think to repeat because you don't know, you're what you guys, what you what you say,

no, no, for favor, you're going to be to be aghast because

he's going to not go not going to get for the good. I'm going to do this

issue and I'm feeling perfectly like I standing in this court if you and

you and you're we're you're the eyes and someone in silence enter

there's a there's there's there's there there there without you

without so I'm going to the recamara where was this space and

And it's postra in front I'm sorry and then then I said to

Patty if you don't you know it's repute the same and I

say and I talk about this in front of me I with eyes

with the and what me can't say is oh I'm

really yeah I'm cost a I'm so I'm

and what I can't say is I know I

can say but it was and in his place came

another seven and my amazza so I see the amnaza

and fuh make you feel like I feel like so it's fuma yeah no

I don't I'm this this this fuh and then this

he said patin the moment in that he said not you don't you don't you

don't you you can't imagineate this scene then I'm I'm

I'm me is saying, then what I can't to hear of this

thing, that was a little, it was a little, it was a thing, and he

said, he went, but in their other seven. Yeah, no

other thing. My curiosity is a question, Paco. I put

to to look that was this that was the thing was a

thing in the Bible. Yes. It's Biblical, is a demonia. So,

is that is this passage in where he went the demonio but in

the other that's me said I'm going to Mark Artur I'll but with

seven more and then he said you know you know you know you have to get to

go back the guardia yeah you have always do the things that you're

to do the people I'm I'm here I'm not they don't me

create nothing not they're any a word Investiguen. You're

the same are the own people, the proper persons that have to take your own

but the thing is something is the only that is communicate is there is a way

if there is a way that this is the that's the that's the thing that's

something that is something that for me it's very difficult to say I want to

I'm you know to go to the I'm there's a Sure, that I want to to go back.

Yes, the passion for the phenomenon. But I don't, I want to expose to my family. You know, yeah, I'm going to be

past. You're in the same as well, and much people have judged because I did a session Ujja

with Samudio. I needed to experimented the phenomenon. No is the same, and for that was that was that

was that I personally, I've done a baby two years, and have passed things for the

situation to what I did I dedicate. Then it's like to have

much precaution with what you're in and so because when they're spirits is

a time. When we're not I don't want to generalize because you're going

you're you're not, no, no, when we talk about entities malas,

demoniac if you want to see, negative negatives, negative very

very very is the person that is liberated has been to keep with protection

on yune or in things christianos because it has been so that's the same that you do you say

the demonio is going but if regress and see that there's there's and you

see you you're you're you're you're a very very very delicate

I I don't have yet to live that thing, but if a co citas

a little really are very are very hard because you know when you're like you do you know I've

thought much in terms to know what you want to you want to your family and your and your

but when you're when you're where you don't know you know and you you have to

talk the phenomenon with pincitas so with pincitas because you know it's the

little when you when you put in rio your family oh this is

a thing very At the day of Oh, if you want to I go, to terminate is all day of so like what

we've passed with your tele to the day of day of my past so who who see

in our podcast I've I've seen doing the podcast as well so grabbing the podcast

me have succeeded psychphonies living in a third piece or grabbing a third

piece to come the window it's impossible things so if at the day

of day of today I don't I don't even to move as you've seen these things.

It's that if the people see how we're right, I mean you know, I don't know but I'm doing so here's my brother,

Casil is with the control of the cameras my brother my brother is doing doing we're doing we're doing

we're doing the television is there so that's not nothing to get we're we're getting we're

we're just we're saying we're real the department the real the fact that's much static much

statica. If you listen voices, no they're spanken. There's a

signal of radio that no have been able eliminate that's very,

very very bad and actually they're not even they're because

we're to try to eliminate but there there something, I don't

see, I don't know, there's there really there's a when I did the

thing of, there's there's there have been partied in this

moment is impressive it's a phenomenon very, a me

passiona. Of me, I mean, so many say, but when you see, but when you're a lot of the

but it's a passionate. A me too. I mean, explain me this. I mean, I'm a

so, but, but, but, it's something that I can't explain to

all the rubros, all the explanations, or indigar because, because is what also, I think,

I try to manage me always, I'm never, I'm totally a lot

scientific, totally purist, so, there's not there's there's a but also

if you're to be a other side, you're going to because you're going to be phantasms

in two sides, you're going, you're so it's difficult to make in this,

in this just curiosity to say, okay, is that is at final, no,

what could get to do you, what is, I, my psychphonies, I'm, I'm going to

analyze, and the man to is esceptic, that's, I mean to have to be, and he himself has kept like, this is, this this, this, no see what is.

Sure. Yeah, because, like, and there are people who say, oh, you know, listen to that the minute, of actually, ultimately, in our studio that we have seen, in your house, in Tuxpet, Waxaca, I, thank you, me has been a lot of that, Paco,

in that minute, and, yeah, so, you, you know, and us have talked, we, we're, we know, we're, we're we've, we're, we're, so, we've, talked ultimately, that's They listen

Rises to production Hey, the Rises come down and they say there's a So,

only we're we're talking we're in the audiophone and you say, what demunios? So,

you know, you know, you know, is we continue in what we're that we're that's true. So, if

if you start, that's what he wants, that he wants, that's what he wants to be

that's how it's like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, is what we're

we do we do. We're going to and let's and yeah, check on. But if we don't know to see,

I mean, I think there's other things but... What do you consider to your abelita?

Reza. What do you say the people say? If you do you say or can't

a song boba functione because you know because you do you to see

to other another then so you're then you think you it's that you

can't it's a thing very very interesting brother, oh yeah, thanks for

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what you about the grimor of San Cipriano, that is how we've a experience and you and you

and so his septicism yeah kept a little more meermal. Okay. Ermano,

mil thanks for that family, thanks too to get to get in the final

that you know that I'm that I'm can't be in the I'll send a strong Abrazo and we're

seeing a next next in a new chapter. Passenla Bonito. Until the next.

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