EXTRA ANORMAL - Milagros Hechos por Demonios | Relatos Paranormales de “Santos”

Episode Date: September 13, 2024

¡Prepárate para un episodio lleno de misterio y relatos escalofriantes! En este capítulo de Extra Anormal Podcast, junto a nuestro invitado Oscar Gherbert, exploramos el lado más oscuro de los "milagros" y relatos paranormales que desafían la realidad. Historias enviadas por nuestra audiencia que relatan eventos donde demonios y entidades oscuras parecen intervenir en lo que muchos llaman milagros. ¿Pueden los demonios realizar milagros? Acompáñanos en esta impactante discusión mientras desentrañamos los secretos detrás de estos relatos aterradores. No te pierdas este episodio lleno de suspenso y fenómenos inexplicables. ¡Dale play y descubre la verdad!  

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that he did maldition to salvarned to save us. Mm-hmm. He was made to see him and more

a little that is considered, maldito, all that is the fact of Jesus in a cross of the humanity. That silhouettes

that's a silhouette great, monstrousa, He saw He was Parada Alado of this

Cajon and he he was he was incorporating to the Santo. He was

getting the part that I said the question if you say

there's miracles made for entities malignas in that event there

were miracles people separated of their radas siagos

were A-beer. Enfermos started to curate. Wurred miracles. And at the moment

to incendiars the flame the flama cance the quadro of Jesus. He does know one of

the guardies that there incendio he got one of the extinguers

but at the moment that he starts the fire of Jesus they're all right

and says Carla that when the figureitas the disfigurro the rostro

the rostro of Sanjudas that had there, but they said that what most he's impressioned

is that the picture of Jesus, the rostro, he had disfigurated and that he had the

face like a carner. And me to say to what the most fear me to do this

is that when I see that that I'm that I remember you the image of Jesus

of the Sagrado Coros is like and it and it's so? And who

is the who is that's with the Cabra. Baph MET.

I'm going to be able to live I'm going to be able to be like to be a good I'm going to be a new I'm going to be a big and be a big and be able to say Oh Oh I'm not

and so I'm going to be going Oh What What are you to be a more of a podcast Extra Anormal.

My name is Pacoarias and I'm very happy to be here with all you guys. This occasion me I am quite

family. Let's try we a theme of the that's about and for me is one of the things

more scalufrientes. I'm sure that The chapter will leave with the pen and

that's a person is going to feel identified. As you have seen in the

title, in the miniatura, we're to talk of cases that have with those

images that all we've found in some moment close of them.

I'm saying something before this episode we we're

going to do for you themselves. Cases that are written and envied

from the anonymat and we're we're going to give a voice to all of them. The fact

because for this time me, I'm going to hebrer. How is Oscar? Well,

yeah, I'm going to get back four times, no? I think four times there's over

me. I'm put a little because you're trying to talk of this type of things. UF.

is that you are the more, my other is that the family

extra normal me have been about about from the first episode to have been there's been a

evolution there in quite a price, I think the first experience in the I'm in the

I'm in the stuff where I'm a little of the mueles but as we're

going to talk from the respect. And and so that are cases

of the family extra normal that we we're we're here we being

part important know we have mentioned in Yeah, more from the more

other we're in a family like all, all the cases that we're we're doing. And for so

we're a great family. Thank you. Before to start, Oscar, two things for the people that

you're going knowing, your credentiales and we appreciate us these moments to subscribe to activate the

campanita and continue us on Spotify, califikarned if you do you like the episode for favor

to be I'm very much family. Credentiales I imagine that you referes

to where is a where In fact, I was a show that's a program that has been evolutioning. We've been changing there a bit of the formats, yeah peggling a little more

to the serious. Sure. Simply when there a moment where we can cotorrear, they'll be there, two, three comments. Exactly.

And that we can't the opportunity. We're going to, I think, for these days, yeah extra-normal has to be raiding in the million.

Yeah. And we, and we'll be a it's a chido and then and the media social

Oscar Herbert in Instagram and TikTok there me they're there's perfect to the order

for the order for yeah yeah you know yeah family this episode of really

I'm I'm very I'm very I'm very identified with him because as like

many people that are seeing being watching your podcast well

I'm I went I'm I a a a church

Catholic and And I served for many years, I've in the chorus, dicatecism, there were some years

very good, very good, but like any I'm sure that there's sure that there's a

moment where you top as front and more if you are only, with an image that more than

to give or transmit you, a sensation of peace, of harmony, of love, it's

It's that you know, no, we can't negate that the appearance, many times, no is the most adequate or not is the more, I don't see if you in a moment has seen some image for there, me'd be extrana. Yeah, when I went for the first

a one of a church a catholica, so, me did a fear the theme, so, of the images, no, the sands. The majority of my family are Catholic and have their altars in

different spaces in their houses and one as a little if you get to have a certain

fear. Conform was passing the time then they're explaining to what it's

the why the images and also not it is a fear simply is a

curiosity the observation of the how were retratated the

people that's under the and all the things. It's

that I know with much respect With many that is that transmit in that part

of the part of love, of harmony but there are ones that are very retraters

in a form very explicit even how were martyisados there there's an

image that made much a lot of a minute that said because not you

don't you don't get to get to get to the house of the old where

there's a person dormida but there an image of Jesus Christ flage

crucified time real looking to the camera man. So, of the really,

I golebro. So, yeah. It's stiles a scale. That's a cabron, yeah.

The truth is that is yeah. And before to start with the theme, I want

to ask to get the title of the video. Yeah. I'm to make a question and

maybe don't me let me contestes. I know I know that maybe is the

response. You know what is the first symbol or the most important, the

symbol that is considered the first, that was Maldito. Santo, Maldito. It's a symbol very important, is icon. Icon, but we're about Judeo-Christian. Okay, I have an idea. But I think that's about your story, right? No, no, no, no.

It's like to open the theme. The first symbol, considered maldito, in the creences, is Jesus Christ. Why? and there you Jesus Christ at the moment

of being crucified this no me I'm not I'm don't know he's a

argument when Jesus is crucifical the the same Bible says in Galatas

3.13 that he he's made maldition for salvarned to

the law so he's he's made he he's he

is considered maldito all that is called in a madero. The

actual to see a Jesus in a cross is the we're that he

asimimism he is made a cause of the humanity. And

every that we see a representation of him in the cross

is with that that that he did he did that

because of his people of his kids. No,

you've thought of that way. I mean, I'm a idea very similar of the fact of

why they're like they're again, I'm again, I'm again with a respect, but it's

like when you know a person, um, how you would like to record it?

No? In my case, a person very loved, maybe, as it was

in his previous days, in my case, in my case, to record those good

moments, the those, the those that would have much the pain to those that I guard.

Because if were very, very, very bad to see a person very, very bad

of the but that is a thing that's a question, Oskar. Let me. Let me.

Let's have. We're going to pinpunia. Ah, there. Existing miracles. Yeah.

Definitely. But what certainty that exists of that some miracles

be made by entities malignas and not for some type of power

celestial Well, you can respond with the episode that's here the last time,

with the history of Valin. That one a woman said, practically the miracle of power

to have not he no, so God he was, another other day. Of this

this story. That story, Oscar, occurred very very close of Tuxpe Guacaca.

is anonymous this occurred in the years 2012 a person that in those years

was serving serving as a colito monaglio in the cathedral in the cathedral of

he was he was he had he had 12 years and we're going to put

a name Sergio Sergio in that so he was serving in the

church very entregated to the church, first communion, all in order,

a family normal, Catholic, and very creyent. In that then, there's

a news that is that is done by the sacerdote of this cathedral,

yeah that their dioces they were saying, that their cathedral was to

the center to receive the rest of a saint. I don't know

that so prudent be to mention the name of the saint. Probably the

people if it looks, how I describe, you'll see who is.

It's a saint that is a year for the 1800. Something

that's made very impressionante and what was a a

miracle is because his body not went in

a His body for si only he mantu no he's

discompunia not to get to putrefaction this they're they're

they're like a type of signal divina and decide guard

those restos something is that's the cathedral that's

very very at Tuxtepe I was to receive

these rest and to do this was a event

grandissimo, because they said to have a saint of this magnitude in a in a little municipal of Tuxepet was a signal very great and

miracle to what many people, many people, many people, many people were there were miracles, prodigios, many things

impressive, they were to pass, sanations, liberations. And the diocese of that moment, he started to

go to the other churches, to parroquias, to start to a movement for when When it was these rest.

At the first, it was about that was a a body complete. But it

resulta no. The only that would get real was going to be a brazo.

This chico that was there, as the most who

was the church, he was interred of all. He served almost

in all the churches of the churches I mean, regularly, I'm very active.

And he was happy because he's a event so of great in my little city is almost impossible and that's

my, my cathedral who guard the rest of and I'm going to be to be something and I have to

get when he. So, he said that semanas before they were they were to make

plieras, gorrhs, and a lot of things to receive to this santo.

If I going to mention his name in some moment. Yeah was a

little time. He said that the sacerote was very entucis was very

entucismod because they were to receive something that for them for they were

very, very powerful. And he said that in an occasion he said

to serve to the at the the night he was he was was

he was the thing in that were to get

the people with this. He said that the sastrotte he metio he had

a house where he lived, where he was at the church and he all the

time he was always always always always always I'm that I

know that he was that he gave to generate a type of resistance to be

certain images I'm he said I was a boge that was behind

the church at the castle of the sacerdote I no had

problems I was I was very accustomed but something but something

something about that night he said he he was he was I don't

know those names no me those but was I was

some things that are for the Santa Misa and

for this there is like a body where where he

he he he was he he he he was much over

of actually when he was about much with

God he he his sense, how was, how I've been his day. And there was a moment where he started to talk with a image, but

it started to do something very rare. He said, I regularly I felt that me, I used in orations, I'd hear my orations, but

here I felt that there was something in that I was listening, but that not was something, that was something,

that was, something mal. Sentie like a scalofry or an air

frio that recurried my my and I started to have been much

fear. Something something I've never ever never. It's

like my church or the cathedral where I was me said

would be invading or that something was that

never never never had never never of the cathedral

and that he's he was hours and hours

and hours and hours, and hours very long and very late and never had never had

this sensation. Well, he's he's he's always and for his surprise while,

at the temple, there was the sacerdote was the obispo and there were

there were all entus because they were receiving and get to a carionette

great and they were going the rest of the rest of the rest of

this He's alegra because he says, if he's I'm going to go to be a little probably occur a miracle or

something. The faith was really was being cabruna but when he saw that they were

going to be his rostro because he came like in a type atabut he

he sentio much fear. And that not normal because he said why don't

feel the this sensation so incredible so that love, how

me has passed other times. He said he's he's

he'll he'll he bachan, the cajohn where he was

all all right and he also he took to get to

and show respect and there was a moment where he

he wanted he but he he's that's that because I

don't I didn't that I thought I was something that

had had a very confunded no it was the sensation that he he'd

he's he's he he was the order by the part of the father

to go to the church for a meeting for a time he

he gets and the first he will get to the church is the

saint no there was nobody he said me I'm go

to go I'm to go and he he

he's to walk and open and he does know that

yeah actually it's a really really real and he went to see

his brazo because remember that one of those was real was real

was and he was he got looking to the hand to the

little to the little he was impressed because effectively effectively

like so he had said his body was

very well he was he He's been a while admiring to this santo, Sintiento a

bit of a little time. The sacerrote still didn't get a he was, he,

while he was, he had a point that the the front, there's this that many Catholics

know, and you know to what I'm to know, he's he's like the

Santiss that is the place where the where the people go to get

a place. What he He called the attention, is that he saw a sombra very great that was in.

He came to think, some fiel came to orar, came to something, but the strange is that

the lights that were all the light. He was a coming and he did a question that

he had nobody. When he he did know that he was completely solo,

that no he had nobody and that he had seen he had seen the

suggestion started to have a fear but he said

he said a figure santa here here no going to

be when he he turned to where is

something he was something he he was a

silhouette great monstrous was he saw he he

was he was part a side of this

caj and he he was he was incorporated

to the santa he was getting his body like he's

he's he's he's what what the demonios that I'm doing

he's frothed the and he looked see how this figure

he was getting to the carhom to the man he said

what I do what I do what I do this no

is normal no not doesn't be something he said a

sacerdote obviously the sacerote no does not he's he says

how you do you do you try to blasphemal against a figure a

he's he got very confused and the and the and I think

the I think the part that I said the principle

of the question if if there many things in

this event there there miracles. People separate of those

their Rueads. Ciegos were to be. Infermos were to cure.

There were miracles. But he in his Correau me says, I don't

see if that was for an abhorra or for an malignant. What

I see is that that mostroo that I could see not

was a good. Then he was No, manches. It's that in the Bible also says

that there's and prodigies, no? And that are utilized to confunding to the people. Now, the

question here is why it's why it's that's another God, another entity,

in the you know you're it's a benefit. As a time you've talked with a

person and not going to spoilier so, that you said, that the thing,

what she is to help her is to do you in the city of Mexico? I don't know I'm going to

know. No, I don't I think no, I think no, I think to say something.

To what I do I'm to do to help to the person and you and you go to

that line for that I'm going how much can be that you can't be a

less that there are repercussions. It's that the question is here if

really exists a repercussion because really actually there's

a department even in the same Vatican that they're because

they're they're a particular there's very very very

very very not not so for us not not

but the trauma me I'm much so the

essence of the thing because we know in that part

how in reality if in these people this little

punyado of persons that they're to study miracles and desmenting

types of miracles because there are little mues that that they

give this information of that a miracle not is divino

no comes by part of a divinity but it's not

part of an entity malignant because also there are

not I'm right the man, but if there are four, five points, as like the exorcism, to have, for a person that's going to do with this, this,

this, this is. Igual, a miracle. It has to be a series of points, and if not they're not, it's considered a miracle ecclesiastical, for part of God. There's a story, is that I was reading the courthos, and an

friend, Van Salud, that also, that also, that's of the family extra-normal, and me said, of what they're going to and I'll explain, more or less, of how is the context. And me, I said, acuade of this

story, and yeah me event, there's some data, it's a story, no, not the family that's normal, and I want to

give a ballada, because are of the first, perhaps cases, a time, no see, to call it,

paranormal, that are in the Bible? This, you, you remember, the story of the rei,

Nabucodonoson? Uh-huh. Well, the king of Babylonia. Babylonia? A grand

rasgos, he was a grand empire, he's a babylonia a grand nation,

a grand city, this, and he built, and he got much the phrase

emblematic of that this is the grand Babylonia that is the and then

he put the little, he's and he finished like living

like a animal but but or things at a level political and

social, very good for his people. He took a play with the Israelis. Dentro of

those plays, is when he gets a captive to Daniel and to the three

chavos to get to the ovens that you don't know that's that story?

Yes. Well, Daniel passed to be a his consager spiritual.

You know is that all the political have to his luc of his

reinado and he And then, this, his successor. And then, Belsazar Kedar al-Mando. And Belsazar, in a occasion, has a lot of a feast. And you know,

that invite to all those of the reigning, women. Vino. Exactly. Hadia vina. They're here. In the cotorreo. When has the pleito

Nauconodosur with Israel, you're the that's the temple. So, so we're back,

we're with Belsazar, it's in the fiesta, and of the point

when yeah the alcohols are in the time, and he's a

person a very, very strange in this place. He's there,

he starts very free, and the cups when they are taking and they're

to be and perhaps here, you can't of the history appears a man

under the sombers. Uh. And he's He's scribe some words in the

page. When that man appears in middle of the sombras, all spantan,

and they're to start. And Belsasar no know what is going, he's the story that

he was that he'd to be a thing, and he's to raler the and he says, and

he's four words. He's he, Manet, Mane, Teke,

Parsin. And he says he to his magos, that tradus that tradus that

because nobody had the manner to traducing, no entendian that was soceding and he

grita and he's got to those grits his mom I'm like that's the little he back to

the house and he said, if nobody of them you can hear, talk to

Daniel, Daniel, I'm still have ancian. He got to Daniel and see what

says in the page, Manet, Manet Teke-Parsin. And he he's traduce paraphrase he says,

the days of your reign is what in the first two words. The second.

The second says that has been a balance and has pesed less than than what

was at the level. And for ultimate Parsin sign means that your reign is

divideded. That night they're the person, and they're and they

are the reinao of Babylonia. What are of Or what are dethrast of this? The basins

where they were taking wine were the basins that were in the altar of the temple that had constructed Salomon.

No, manches. The Salomon, we. Yes. Be, that's right. And when I'm put there

to read and to consider these parts, are pieces are very important the calices or the copas

that have in those churches Catholic, because it's where it's where they're the vino, which is the representation of the liquid vital

of Jesus and the hostia. How many, a few, even, bromea, no, and agarre these, these objects that are sacred, and you know what you're doing?

Exactly. Metyingnote with things divinies that you know, it's a question one of a bit, it's something that we're going to do just to deviant us,

but when I was Chiquillo, there was a posada to the I'm in the church. And there was a

child that was entering to the church. I don't know of the reglas. For example,

we don't come as the rellas into the church, and so. So, then I

gave riss because he was a petino all. And the bato, I remember

that they were time, and refreshcos. And the bato's to come at the bed had the

table, but he got to He, he, he, the refreshco, in the Cali. In the Cali, yeah, and he'd have seen, my Tia,

it was, I'm, no, if they were to get back after a time. Yes, there, there. There's a story

for there. Well, the anterior, not the story me, and the family extra-normal. It's a

Bible, they can find out of it's in Daniel. For if no me believe, because then they're saying, this,

just, they're saying something. In the book of Daniel. In the the book of Daniel,

there's the story of Belzzzzazar, Nabucodonosur and all this that's been chido. This story me, it's called, Carla. Carla, I was a officeina

of consultoria in the city of Mexico. In the majority of the work, there are altars. So, all right, here the Mexicans,

we have altars of the Virgin, we have images religiouses. You have felt for here. More? More.

Carla was a contadora in this in this officeina and thenro of his crew andro of his group of friends, there was Doña Betty or the countora Betty that had much time

working there, Beatrice was another person that was more great that was more or less there of the time of Doña Beatrice of the countada Beatrice

and Carla mentioned something that you said at the initial of this grabation, that she from little,

he'd have made the images religious. Her family is Catholic mentioned, but she doesn't

go to a misa, and participates in the ceremonies. And he said that was talking

with his friends, his friends, and because there where they were they

in that department, in a part of that building, they had a special of,

well, one of that where they were depositing figures religious

that were, that had the companions, there were a cross, there was a figure of a virgin, there was Sanjuda. It was a mini-altar. Ah,

it was like an altar that the people were going to be there. And, and up of that repisa was there

was a quadro of Jesus a quadro grandote, the of the sacred heart. And you say,

is that like me, I'm kind of a little and he said, look,

I'm, and I'm much time when I recently I came to this officeina

I said there's things raras okay okay so we're

we're we're and we were in the baguettes so you know you know

you know they're very propens to the tempelors right to be all normal

the detail was that the point they're they're that the first

those were the And they've a father to that he said there was

a ceremony religious and limpeer the place to do you sanctifyer for that

not so they were to get to get to a cross to be a representative

for them and they they were to deposit there he was a new company

called Chucho Chuchin came and he goes and it's more

or less of the age of Karla and they're to cotorriar

of this and he He said, well, is that I'm, I think, in Jesus, I think in the Virgin. I can't, I, I can't tryer. Well, yeah.

Deposita there, this, a, this, a, a, uh, a, a statue yeah, also. Passed the, the time, and he says, Carla, that she kept, working after after time, I was capturing, here some data in the compu, and de-pronto, and, de-pronto,

I'll see a, and said that the repisa, and it says, yeah, this is a tremor, temble, I don't have to say, he's going to and at the

moment that's going to the way to be he's a lot of and he's and he's not,

and he's a one of those of security, he's got to be, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he broke the video of the

window of the quad. They started to recoges the vidios, and this man agarrow a escalera, put the quadro of Jesus, how was it, et cetera. The other day, Quenta, Carla, what had

succeeded. And, and she, Doña Beatrice, the contador, Beatrice, is that sporadically will come to do something.

I was here in the office of Archive Murto, and me opened some lockers. And he said, I started to

go to come in there, just when I was getting to the door, me wasotar so in the car. And yeah,

I opened, me I said, and I Carlos, more or knows how it's the situation. Yeah, like me calmed, me gave a

coffee, and I put me to rest. But if you have to be atentos of that this situation

is going to again. What's? Passed. Dice, Carla, that's he gets

with Beatrice to be a little more later, and this. They're are working

and they're to hear them, like, but the quejids, but the quejidens from this place where they're

in the and they start to start to and the and the contorah said that

she said, no, no, no, go, let's, and they say that when they're and they're

to see that up the repis where they're there's He says that it's incendi, and at the moment of incendiars, the flame, the flama, alcance the

quadro of Jesus. And yeah, when it's going to get a line, and he starts the quarter of Jesus, he does a count one of the

guards that there incendio. Agarra one of the extinters and start the liquid, the liquid, apag the fire, but at the moment

to that he begins to get the fire of Jesus, he can't all, and says, Carla, that at the moment that when

the figuritas the the rostro of the virgin was disfigurated

the disfigur was the the rostro of the virgin the rostro

of San Judas that there but they what they most

they impression is is that the is that the picture

he had disfigur and that he had the car like of a

carner oh and me and me to the

last what most my more I made of

this is that when I observe that the head like a cabra in Jesus

that if you put a comparison you know how is the image of Jesus of the

sacred so how is it? Yeah, if it's it's like and it's so,

and who is the that's like with a cabra? Bahamette no? Yes,

she what we to us impressioned is that in the repisa there was a statue of a demon.

Be, that's the abe. And they started to ask that who had deposited that? There, he let's chucho, that was the new, because he was too, I mean, and he said, no, I trage a statue of San Jose, me seems.

One of the guards he made easy to grab this, that they had done, this statuia of a demonio, he put up there in the repisa and he no he said

to do not to do so when they they're to ask that's why he's a question

or more or more I'm sure I'm so they're all they're and every put here

what the more he plasca and what I'm so I'm me me me they're and I'm

I'm here here here comes the question so the respect

is the Right, but what is the difference? Tal-bees, the guardia not he did with sanya. Sure. To him, he's got him. He loved it, and as he saw

that the objects religious were there, he also he deposited. Now, they can coexisting these images, because he said she that he'd give me the attention

that this object, so, if he had a head of cabra, and he had that The body of human and he he gave a much the attention the part of

where how Jesus is in this way, and the demonio this also is this way. It's very similar.

The Jesus is more like so. So, and the other is like for the other is like that

is interesting and it has to be much with the story that I'm going to tell you. It's like

is that this story Oscar not you knowces is that well we've been we've been that we've gotramed

stories internes of the correos and nobody know of what the stories to be

to be right is that is that has to be exactly with having an altar but

you'll connecter with a with a place where it's common

to find those hospitals because you do this because I mean I'm rio, because I also

I'm trying to go to hospitals to be to be the same. We're going to we're doing. We're not.

It's not I'm sure to tell that story but I'm I'm sure is that is that

is that is a bit cabron because why I do this for that the

people have in where they're in where many people sometimes they're

in the finted this this I'm let's put a name

let's let's let's I've worked for an hospital of government here in Oaxaca, precisely. There's a part

that has called much the attention and when I've had taken to the doctor Carla and the doc that all know I always

anteriorly I was that what on with these santo or with these altars that we're

in hospitals even a friend Luis Medina that also he's mandos and he

precisely that has had been more attacks in the hospitales in the

talking directly I'm going to mention the IMS in Mexico

the Institute Mexican of the Social he he said at

least that that they have put to the not not

for plegerias but for to am minor the

activity paranormal because if exist activities paranormal in

hospitals is very very segued Obviously, as people very prepared

studied, people who believe in science, they cost a little more the thing

to admit that they've been to but with the doctors that I have

had been or have this sensibility they've they're they're they

can't that these these little temples or little

altars not are for that the people who have the people who

are in their pledges are to calm the activity that there and is that if

we're in context a hospital is a place where the frequency is very a very

bad infirm and death depression people that that's

state and that's a state rational is so to get this type of

frequency tend to to attract something so it's for so that they intend in you

sanctify certain areas Ruby me tell that in a occasion she

she took to start her work she she she goes with

a chief of the doctores he pass the information the

reportes and they say all this all this was

in a We have a patient Entro A few of hours With a Dolour of stomago He said that they

They're going to eat a little But, but Entrethes Suffre the hallucination He says that something

He gets to attack her He says that something He wants He doesvivir And that He can't

In Paz Aurita Isccedada He's He's He will doormy for a couple of hours. But for what is to be able to her? Because,

of a lot of attacks of anxiety, of desperation, and he begins to gritty. So, for that you're doing, if you need a support, there's the other

infirmary, that's a guardia, and there's the doctor of guardia, for you can't but for favor, but for favor,

check me to this patient. Okay? She takes the report, Camines, to where are these some

some of the custom of the custom of passing, always, always to pass. And,

before to enter, was this altar, where were there were various santos,

various images, but in particular, he called the attention to the thing.

There was a, the same, the same saints, but this occasion, there

a not He did he was he's he's he's not normal

the the fact that they had to adder new santo then there

some some on your hand or some little a stitas not

for for the life of my mother of my daughter of my

little incomient and the actually the majority of the

people they're a lot but this new this

Well, yeah, this new figure, no, no, because it's notable that was new that just they had to get a new, that was the of the new God,

but the new of God, that all right to record, the that's on the 25 of December, 24,

of Nochebuna, that is where he's on a costadito, so, like in paulito, not more, desnudito.

He's, and he called the attention, because, and said, look, look, that,

look, never, never, never, have been put a new of God that

they're they're in other santo of the Sanjudas had a heart of

the virgin maria many, many saints and so he's he's beautiful

put here this figure of this figure of this this new and he

did know that I know because they're not marrado

so nothing nothing and pass it's antiwa and

pass to his labores all normal all did the

10 did the 11 the 12 at the one she was

in her modulo and she began to hear greats greats grotes of

a woman deserperated gritos that was that really they were they were running

to the person of the form more cruel she she went where she

was the woman that was the woman that was that had given that had

had This woman was grittando in a form impression when she

yeah to get to this cell where there more people they were all around

and they're and they're and she grittable no deches that me I'm

and I want to all they're to be because there more

more there yeah she yeah Me quills in my house and

now me want to get me. For favor care me, for favor protect me.

She, the infirmerer Rubin normally he administer another dosis

because not normal the behavior that was the really he caused

a little of fear because not normal to be to be

with this type of patients that they're that they're

like of, like of, no, desperation of fear

of and he And he asked to the people that to do not that's

she was going to the court and she did a question that the

passillo was a different was too was too not was so the

lights had been apado and she said okay hospital

of the government um detail but but while

he was coming by that passillo for to get to a modulo

he was feeling fear, much fear, something that she was not was used

to be a little resplandor that was the altar with his vellas then

generated a little light very diffuse and so she was how she was coming

to the model pass to the altar every every past had the

always that had the person how he used in name and

pass to her model. Passed something very rare and he got to

his module and notable like that was his mind or his

attention not to his computer but he turned and

was the altar and it there Oscar where

not not something out of the normal standing

all dark and only they were for the velas, it's a

kind of a silhouette, like if someone would be a little and the bela a little like the

sombre in the wall. She now again, and intends to see, but then where it's

produced the sombra, I don't see the body that doesn't know, but it's been

well, the arm, the arm, the head, but no see that that someone

is there can be that someone Passing one seconds, regress to the light,

and it's all the and effectively. And effectively, no, there's but he called the

attention how he had had been a woman. He said, I'm

I'm going to this patient, regress those labors, this, I'm going to

write some things there to do the time, I don't have

administered a new sedante to this woman, when new begin to

hear the gritts. Salé corriending, get the room than the first was the first

was a time, she was she was she was going to counter to respond to

the the camera while while I'm I want to do you

don't me get you don't me want to obviously the other patients

that were there was like a quarter but divided like for

cortinitas were they're they're fear and for the grits of this woman. Normally

to get the infirmary, but the infirmerner she asked how is that this woman not

she'd she'd she'd. She'd and not said that. And I saw how

she got against the responder and he said is that's here, is that here,

she's here and me keep that. She'd she'd pay a companyers to the

medical of guardia and all they're calm it, they're

a sedante a little a little more more than to get dormied.

The really, I just I just a lot because something something

was a thing that was not a normal, it was again, it's

in charge of that all all and then all the light and

he's to go to the model. It's there when for

me here the part more the story. Staten

in your module writing, I'm again, I'll see that silhouetta

parada at one side of this altar. But at this occasion

no not was there light and and there

and with the light and there see a sombra

enormous parada there. She with much MEDO and a little of

valor to see and see what produces that sombra if there is a little a little

a figure that makes that make that they doge and when he gets the altar

he has that the first image that saw that the little Jesus

was there was there but was another was an image completely

black had cuer had a collar and he he had a cintillo in the muke

that said to be to start to Sarah no mams she immediately he said he said

to the medical, the medical that was to and he said that he said that's

that nobody knew how had got that that

figure there and the and the when she when he

when he went to he She was, it was like a figure normal.

After the point where it's like if all had been in a type of any type of

incantto and nobody did. Until that something happened and they were

to get of what was. She the last me is, we need

to be that we and after that the patient could be

the patient could do that she was that she is that is that

is that is that You know, you know, about the capillas or these places into the hospitals, also, I mean, I've seen much about, also, I'm also circulating there

a theory, of that more than a place to be a place for the people that's there, or to be a little of the past, at the final

what you live in the hospitals is very feo, that is more a channel for the almas that are that are there

merodeing. Exactly. And is that how many people don't pierce the life in a hospital.

I have a friend that also consume the content. Saludos to Dr. Mario.

Salos. And not so much I was doing, and I said because when you started

with this routine through the stories, I don't see if I suggestion because I

don't I think in this things. But when I talk to be in the

turn of the night, yeah. So, so I try to see me

to be to be to come somebers and it's and it She's,

how they're on the door of and if we're in just we're in

a lot of, we're in, and you don't know, while they're not, while they're that's,

that's the phrase that me said, my friend, that the that's the people, that's the

last a year and a minute, they're going to make, for me,

no, that's, that is the thing of many, so, I'm, I'm

also, I'm saying, you're have passed while they're getting cotorreying

by yeah and never no say to say that we're not to get normal yeah,

so it's all right all right so we're not, we're so much I'm

that I'm a hospital this story not we don't get the same story? No,

no, no is the same story, I'm about that's the same is the same

to be the same in a hospital called San Lorenzo and the and the Amanda Laura

Laura He has there of a infirmary Yes Dice Laura that constantly

they're roting in their time in the majority of the factories in the

hour of the morning and the morning and the madugada that in occasions there

had turnos very very very tranquill in the madrugat

and in this hospital where she she said that the capilla

she she would pass pass for there and

to get us because also is a devote and is a client. And then

he metia to bring to the vellas to the bellas, he chab water, to the

there was there was there and that he was a time there.

He gotrava there's five minutes to sit and meditate and

and ask for a time. He said said that started things that not

succeeded with anteriority that they were to get the attention.

Yes. She said she that in a occasion in the madrugada is going and she

met see that the lights of the velas of the bellators and

he and they and she she said she she was

maybe alumbrated the altar where was at the moment

to bring the bellas he he he he

he gets being to the virgin, but says that in

this moment no he sent you the peace, and the dulcura that

regularly he was the image of the virgin. He called much

the attention because he said that the mind, the mirh he transmitted

a little a bit about. Apart, he said there was a sombra

that was abasand to the virgin, they were like involving. And he

says that maybe it's for the thing because it's like you

mentioned a a rata there were in these auras that are the vealas the velas

and they say that's going to the part of back to be the other and then the light and that

that sombra and that that's over she was is a little espantated she goes and get

there at the cafeteria and he took a coffee and he he gets magda

a a man of her and he he said what you he said is that

me spant right I'm I feel a little extrana when something

that I'm in the capilla and he said the he said

why he did he and he he said and he he said Magda is that

because since time I I've I hear there in that

capia and I I'm I'm I'm I don't say to say

to the people to to the people to first because it's

a place that's a activity mala or activity paranormal

and in second is a place a place so so I don't

want to get me problems with with the people and she says

she she says well maybe it's the stress no see

the the the noise you know you know

you know they make to the other turn they're

to see they get there and they they

are they're sitting like listening what's what's what's in the

environment and they're they're in the part of the door like they're

they're they're they're they're they're they're they're and they're

saying a doctor well you're doing you're well you're you know and the doctor's

and he says that I'm I can't think you I'm I'm not I'm trying in these

things He says, no, I think in first place, no, I think that's this type of activities. In second

place, well, if it's made very burdo of you're part of you're that's when they're

so they're so. And he renuente to this. Terminan the turn, and she

gets with the curiosity, Laura, she gets with the one of the guardias that if someone

had seen to the part of the sotea and the guard and the guard and says, no, not more

we're just we What the past is that I hear of and the guard is to start and he says, he says,

that's, the point in the last piece, if you see he's that they're they're

they're they're they're so. So, then the doctor Josue

and he said, I say, I'm going to make to these. The doctor standing

in the madugada, making his routine, also also, he mentioned that he

called the attention a room in the capy And yeah that

he met you observed no no no pass the time

and a Laura they do can their vacations so and magda

with the doctor they're and the doctor he says that is that

they're suggesting they're in their routines of and says the

doctor for pure curiosity yeah the last I'm going to

get to be to be to be that the Dr. Josue to get to the capilla, he sits

on the side of the left. And as maybe the five of the morning, he says

that he his grab of the cellular, he does, this, grab, and he

says that he says, and he starts to observe all, and he kept

dormied. Stando the dormido, he does paralysis of the sun. And he

gets looking to the altar and be that in the altar a sombra that was abrasing to

the virgin he's he's a back to and he and he says he says that he's about

and he's and he starts like if he was to he was to be in paralysis of a

dream yeah he said he said he was and the cruces that were

in the they're to be they're to they're and he he wants to

and he he's and of Pronto starts Rewoods. Like if some of

some people were claming he's that the voice principal or the voice that

more resaltable said Sackanos to here. No. And he he begins to try

to play. When he recuperer the force, he gets a disperate,

he did a kind of a kind of a kind of he's

he gets his cellular and he Quenta And he's Oye,

I'm going to this, this, this, this. And Magda so, he gets

impressioned because this person is supposed that's a sceptica. And he said,

I'm doing the cellular. Passed. At the midday morning, he's

he's he's put to listen to what had recorded and he says

that he can't hear very very at the front of what he he's

the people. Sacken here. Magda he says, oh,

I'm to tell you something that what happened with the doctor Josue

in that Laura he said I'm he said what I'm he said he said

Laura Magda without what had succeeded so yeah the

doctor to get the capilla that he was that

the side right and that he had seen

he was and he was in this moment I

know I know I'm to I'm because I didn't know what was going to

I had much fear. I was a one, an entity he was about and he's he put to

oral for he, passed the time and I kept with that I'm getting your message and I know

what's going, and he says, well, all this that's saying is going, it's suceding to him

and he he said he put in his recording and that he he says, some voices of

the people say, Laura, regress of vacations, the doctor he said, well,

I don't see, but I'm you know, how can't what you know what you don't know. No,

it's a explanation should have to have to be to know. So, and in a moment,

Laura, he met to the capilla and is sat sated. And, and of I was

to turn to look at the side of the pader and was written with an

object punso-cortant say us to here. Resulta that in the month of

September and October, in the area of oncology, had had fallen four children.

She there. Probably are the lives of the children. It's

that's that's that's really. I don't are. I don't there are

many emotions furs Firtes Where people Even, talking about experts,

me say they're that a sometimes they're and not know that they know that

they're not they're to be there's there's and it's like if they're

in a type of prison or something simply their essence is

kept trapped in this place. I'm to I'm an

history and yole before to this me they're at

attention where it's a public because it's a part the sureste also

in Mexico when when when recently it's a place,

what is the people say, we're going to put something here.

It's the church and the community. Exactly. Exactly. C

almost they they're in the same terrain or something to the

one of the other exactly exactly. This was in that history. There was a

place that's a lot of the attention. At the final I'll say,

but these people said this person said this this place is perfect to put our capillita.

It's put, it's to poplar, pass the time, and it's a

extrano. The church is the church of San Jose. It's like any

church of a local a normal, a a

sacerdote a at the Monday to the night on the

days and the days and the one occasion passed an

event that that left to fear more more

to have to have a feeling something and

is that during the time there people starting for the

children that they're saying to say to the saint that's he's he's got to

move. Well, they're not they're they're they're this church

had the recorrials that is when Jesus was coming to the crucifixion there

there are like little parades and these are represented by

by images until in a in a misa a And your father

logger in the moment in that a image was parpadeing. This provoked in

the church a series of emotions because then more people started to see that

different with the eyes that parpade them what is impossible. For some

it was an event a miracle a signal something and for many

others was an event of much fear. The people

to talk to talk about. It's going to get a voice because

that they were going things in the church. With various

images. The people started to go to a misa. Something

they started to congregars more more creyentes that before they were

to go for what they were and the people in best to present

to the misa, and was going to but the first they were to see the

the rostro of the sands, to be a see one and he and he was not

it. Obviously, it was in events very sporadical. In other occasion

was the father at the Santa Misa. There a moment when the

father he's the calis and says Calis of the alliance of anovia

Etern and he begins to say a series of words when

a moment a person started to cry and he inked all they're

to see and all in this moment in the misa saw

how an image of Maria started to start

the in that moment the the sacerdote back

the pulpit camina and he inca and he put

the ahead and and he's to thank for the miracle, all incated people

and people that was there was there was something because they started to have to

know that the sensation that was a sensation not was a greatable it was a sensation

of much fear because they were how brought about the the rostro

of this virgin Passed It's It's It's It's quite Something,

something Something very, very beautiful. And the people went to go to the

church, it was to get more the church, because they were, presenti were

a miracle. The Virgin they moved to the place. The people,

all the people, even in the Misa at the five to the time,

that was the there were on the there was there were a people

went with the Mormon. One occasion passed something is a very rare.

Nowham standing in the misa, because this was going during the misa. Entrable

in raffas of a air that abackable the vellas. And one occasion passed that

when when you were when you were doing the the last orations

the bells they were but this this time not was no no

current of simply they were and after three

seconds they they Delante of all. This obviously desatow more

the temor, more the energy of the people, and it was in that

moment when when the they were like a hostia that was putta

in the altar was projected against the wall. It's rompe

and they all can how started to be a type of

activity even even something Something that to all is that the Rostro of Various Santos started to change his expressions.

The father begins to come to come in and begins to see, yes, effectively. The Rostro was changed. No, is your

not the that they have something, something that's happening. But the father had Indicions of something not

good, at the started to think of what the situation because they were

to happen to happen to happen to do you know a part of cartes to give you or giving

more than an explanation of what was going in the issue they were evidence

and they're waiting a response until that in a moment was with a person

in that parroquia a person that also that also We also had a preparation a ecclesiastica

a quite important and talking with him in the fact there were the father, there were in a couple

brothers and there was this other person and he said, Saint-Padre why is that

is going to this? In my heart I don't that is something that's

that it's something when they were when they were talking that the church

entered an air an air that soplo apagued the bells and there was a moment

where there was a silence and they were some words not us allviden so that

these words that all heard all the saints of that church

started to move to before to a point of people it was

a scandal because all they were was happening. The father he asked to all those that's

to get to get to the church and they're going to and all the whole of all the

but she kept with those words. This person that was with the sacerdote he said

there's a person that I think that needs to talk with you but only I

want to say one I'm going to be a mind-abirted. Probably what

he did, not something accord to his creensions. It's

a person very to me. And is when they present to Don Luis. Don Luis

was an anciano of the people of the people most great.

And Don Louis, when he gets to the church, he he gets

looking to the father and he says, I know

for what is happening all this. I know because they're going to things that

not should but about all the people. Not only to the people not only to the people.

Because there were rumors of that the people was maldicing and

there was a there was a there result that this sir

encountered the signif the signif the those words.

No us allviden. Before that the same the same

the places, this sir, he platica the sacerote that in

that in that was where were where they were there were those

nativos antipasasas where they'd even to sacrifice people and in

a place considered the santo for this tribe. And on them

construed the church. He said, there's there's a way,

but I need to for favor we'll we're something out of

those processes. Degem a moment to me to enter to the

church and he's that this will do this is

the Adelante, sir. Let's see what what's going to be the day

next this sir he gets like with a morralito what

what we does this person that he's the person he said

he said that didn't of this morralito he he got some

some little statues and many antivas like tall

in peter and was in middle of the church

he He inked and he began to a black and he started and he began how to appreciate

and between words mixed to the Spanish he wrote to understand

no those have forgotten us you are present

the people was the whole of what happened some

some people not didn't the action of the

same by permission that someone did a practice agena

to the church but only so that so that's calm the

things. No were activities as malignant. They were the

antipas being a favor no us forget. I'm that

story is this man. It's abroncissive man. I think I think

is very gross to that part there many many stories

that in reality did Many churches were cimenteded in places, over here in Mexico, considering how they're

this creedice that we have the majority of the Mexicans, that were constructed in places considered as a land of our ancestors. Yes, places. And there are various,

in internet, there are various histories that were cements. Yeah. It's been gross, because it's about of how we're going to say something that

maybe I'm going to get but how we're trying a creency very different to the that we've been

professing and we're that's a much time. There's that there's a there's a little bit of

the data but I remember that I'm reading a good a lot many years I'm

I'm tope with one that his infrastructure occupa part of some ruins

that occupied our antepasas and the people were in a church.

I mean, I'm living it's just, it's like to get to get to get to say, let's,

if someone gets to your parents or of your abelos and you keep there. I'm

going to live now I here. Exactly. It's like the final of the day

we've been about here. The creencers They're respected. A few, one personally, me atrego

to say comments about when they're going to give up uncomodos with respect to the creencies. But when

you put to analyze certain things, it's good. What good that we're in a God of

a God, that's a good, that's a god, but the ways in how were brought

these these creencies not... Not was not... Not for the And that's where

comes in the comments a bit more asper, is that I'm going to do. This

history the man a manned a, a, a woman that's of the family

extranormal. I was a sustologist, but not not a sustologist, it's of the family

extra normal. Saludos. Saludos to the ushologists that are being extra normal.

This sucese in a public called San Benito. Okay. And something

very very similar to what you want, like we try this this

This story This story is in a church fiatty that this I don't

know there had a a church there is that I'm not I'm

know I'm know I'm know I'm know they're in these concepts

in an church in a church that's there there an image

or a statue of this a scale of San Judas in this place

one of those San Judas me imagine that is the You've got to go ahead.

Yes, and something. And something to what you were talking in this story, in anterior.

So, it's that feligresses start to know that particularly in the rostro of San Judas

is this this mirada that I think that happens much of the saints. Yeah. That seems

that they are seeing the first that's the first that is Doan Lupe. He mentioned

to the father Mateo he said oh yeah figgies that I'm seeing that the same I'm

and then he's a his husband to do you his husband says that effectively that this

mind that this is for there until this moment nothing nothing it's

like okay it's a it's a bigion, it's a bicha that it's a biga

that they're they're they're to hear certain These are these in the

church when the people not were there's like they're like they're and they're and they're

and then and then it's to call to the people that's why it's there's there.

Scientifically you can say the sound you get trapped there, there replicas and

all good all normal he gave much the attention to the Padre

Matthew that And yeah, various of the feligreses were inter-dicing and entreece of what is

going to this statue, no, that's the representation. Dice, he's he put to to analyze

all this thing, that's that's that's about the image, all right.

He says that no, see with the eyes, the imagination of the people or the perception,

making a parenthesis of this history, there, there's an anecdote real that

that's that's my name of the place but there an image

of a Jesus that the people are looking to be that's documented

for so I know that is real they're seeing looking and the multitude

that this Jesus starts to move his and the

people to get to commotion Yeah. It was in the state of Mexico. Uh-huh. But it was for the position of the

head that was, this part, like, of this part of the vertigo. Yes. They were, well, it's a parenthesis. The theme with this San Judas Tadeo,

San Judas, pardon, with this San Judas, the sacerdote and he's to examine it, and it's in the part of

in what they're in the atrio of the and he he does know that when you're to be

the church they're in these mormoyos but I imagine that's

when you're when you're when you're when you get at the night and they're there's

and they're and he and he and he and he to get a capilla and

I want to observe what what's what the same because

also the same those fathers have corroborated that the images can tend to have manifestations. This is real. It has succeeded.

It's not so much in Morelia. I don't see, see, the case of the virgin that was dying. Sangered, and they're saying. And they're the same. Yeah. Igual like the osse of sangrient, in his moment, so I've been about it. It's just a bit. Well, it resulta that he gets reading the image.

Well, no, there's no other manifestation. For this It's to And it's It's He's He says

He And when He says He says the history that There were many

There were But the father was alone He said That's They were They're

They're They're And they're To be They're On those One

With Some With With maybe the and in a instant that they're

they're they're to turn to be able to let's yeah and he in that moment he's a

this ritual and he's to restar to restar and he says that when they're resando

they're they're going to pay them but when they're they're in complete obscurity

the capilla and he says he that the moment of that he's he looks

a belator for Prender, the Prende, it's and it and this

illuminate a little the rostro of Sanjudas. When he he he he's

the ve that the eyes are totally black. Oh, and he was dying.

He's not he was scurrying of the mouth. Of the book. So,

he's he's he's and you know that many of the parents

have books of history and and he starts of what could

occur with this statue a one an explanation ecclesiastica says this person that the

father mentions that he he finds some documents where effectively

the statue of San Judas precisely is occupied is occupied for

people to do work of confusion in the people

called hereges. He says that when these people occupant these statues,

make that exist these manifestations to confunding to confunding to the people and that

the moment to confunders this this alimenta the end that vener

these herges. In that city existian a group of

people that were in this the church to do this

type of work there there there the other day the

father perdon to make to the church so and he starts

to rosal water over the statue and mention

that the place and it starts to start

a pressure very very very very very very

very so and that the father, when he's when he

says that the statue is moving, he says that's the statue revienta. So,

staya. Stey, he's he and he says to the person that the person that

he helps the sacristan he says that he has to this. The

sacristan so mete and surciora of that the statue was made a

piece. Yes. At the other day, pardon, at the other day, before

to initiate the misa, they'd know that that all the figures that were

there were destroyed. Like if what would have made to the statue of

Sanjuda would have revented the rest of the figures. No, manches,

man. Now, this suede for rituals of people of the church. How is

that they can take them the power to be able to be the redundancy with these images

sacred? That is what I know the attention of this history because

it's that is that is used to to confund to confunding to

and when there confusion, terminan alimenting the power of the being to be able to

this figure santa? Is that there a story of the actually, I was trying to look

of a frail that in that then I give the name, the really,

no, no, I know to find no I don't don't know I'm,

I'm started a group of people that they said For this, the frail was of the most

of those who were the life more in sanctity. Of the is where the movie rogated for

us inspired. A group of people were in a group of persons and were miracles because that said

that was there was the virgin with the little, God, in his in his

brothers, and they adorabing and they said, is that you have to go. You have

to be for that you see the glory of God. In one an occasion, well,

so, advise me when pass that. Pass, and get people running,

he's bowing, and they're there's a manifestation. And when he gets to the

place, a lot of people in cada adorand. And he was the only that

he did count, that the figure, a figure demoniac and the the

little that had in his broads had his and he He said, if you're

the mother of God, come the carna of your and bebe his blood, and confronta. And, and they're all

they've got to see their appearance. It's like they're in this type of, well, yes,

of adoration, no, to receive that energy, those plagias, to be able to be able

to be able managing for for many years in various types of santo people. Fiatte

that there I read a story there in the Correo I don't I did more a second but I'm

about about a manifestation also that has been with a confusion with the Virgin Maria

that I'm that I'm makes a pretty perturbored for what that represents the Virgin

of Guadalupe the Virgin of Guadalupe the history says that they're that they're to know

a movement a movement of entry in the image of the Virgin

and says this family that is very devot that they were up of a

this, of a little in particular in the cell. The little

said that he was really because not about that he was moving.

And yeah, for not to be more this story, he said

the little he said that susurrab to his ear when he

was he was he was the man the Correo. He is a

little that he's a little and that see a woman

a side how is the virgin but no he's

his mantle this manto that he has a manto

and he was a in the car and he says that he he's

in the moment that he comes the he comes his

carrying and The tetric of this is that when when is that when the sir

of there's, he does know that the virgin not was in the repis. He was in other place.

Cangue of the place. That's what they're going. No doubt that's that's sort of

things in some of things inanimated can change of the place for a type of

power, for a type of an type of the end, no doubt that also I'm

an image. Yes. Some things that I think I hope not are you who are you who are

part of a capitual of juby of stories. How did you do you know? Well, a little

nervous. Some things are quite asperous. I think we don't raspamos that many

and no. And record to the audience that at final we we're here to give to givements

to the story. We don't have the real absolute of nothing.

Each we have different and we respect us totally the if you're Catholic,

if you're Christians, if you're testigues, if you're mormon or if not creased in

that, it's respectable, no no pass nothing and it's not and we don't know,

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