EXTRA ANORMAL - NO DEBÍ SUBIR ESA ESCALERA EN EL BOSQUE | Relatos paranormales reales
Episode Date: June 19, 2026En este episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast nos adentramos en algunos de los bosques malditos más aterradores: lugares donde los senderistas desaparecen, las brujas realizan rituales, aparecen escalera...s imposibles y criaturas que no deberían existir se ocultan entre los árboles.⚠️ Historias de un joven mexicano que viajó a Japón para fotografiar al lobo japonés y terminó encontrándose con seres mitológicos; una bruja en la Sierra de Guadalupe que extravía a los senderistas para que nunca regresen; un juego macabro en una zona rural de Colombia, donde un anciano revela que fue manipulado por brujas; una cueva en Peña de Lobos marcada por la sombra de un niño que pudo haber sido algo demoníaco; un guardabosques mexicano en Canadá que subió unas escaleras en medio del bosque y desapareció durante años; y un caso en La Marquesa, donde policías de Xalatlaco encontraron un aquelarre de brujas alrededor de una fogata y fueron perseguidos por bolas de fuego.En este episodio encontrarás:- 🌲 Bosques malditos, senderistas perdidos y desapariciones inexplicables.- 🧙♀️ Brujas, rituales, aquelarres y bolas de fuego en México.- 🐎 Seres mitológicos, centauros y criaturas ocultas en el bosque.- 🪜 Escaleras misteriosas que aparecen en parques nacionales.- 👁️ Relatos paranormales reales de México, Colombia, Japón, Canadá y Estados Unidos.Si te gustan las historias de terror reales, los relatos paranormales, las leyendas de brujas, los bosques embrujados y los casos donde la realidad parece romperse, este episodio es para ti.Suscríbete a Extra Anormal Podcast, deja tu like y comparte este episodio con alguien que jamás se atrevería a entrar solo a un bosque de noche. 🔔
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The bosques are
places are
of peace and be
but there are
some
where the
most
where the
nature
where
the
people
disappear
where
strange sounds
resuennan
and
many
have
seen
having
things that
this
this
you know you
you're
many
many
and they're
in fronting to
to something
that never
they've never
they're
well,
Welcome.
What,
What are you?
Welcome to a
a chapter
more of podcast
Extraanormal.
My name is
Paco Arias
and I'm
happy to
start
in a
chapter for
all of you.
Family,
there are
many mysteries.
Actually
it's about
of many
phenomena
that occur
in different
places
of our
planet.
But the
bosques
are something
special,
yeah
that a
words of
some
experts,
it seems
that these
places in
some
point
cobran
a
sense
but a
general
some people
think
that for
the
nights
occur
phenomena
and one
one
a person
me a
said
something
he
said
that
never
to learn
to
this
night
you
go
to
this
stories
that
I'm
that
they're
to
get
very
to
Aterra. And for this, me
a company a very special for
first time, that I'm sure
that some have to know
for their excellent
work and who's
good to be with us with
us. Ivan Torres. How is
your man?
What is, Paco? How much
I'm so? I'm very
first of to know
to be with the
master of the paranormal.
Oh, my. Thanks.
And also,
to be able to
share this forum with
your community.
Much thanks.
Thanks,
brother,
before
before
I would
like to
present you
who are,
to give you
to do you
do you do
the projects that
you're doing
I'm
sure you
I'm
producer of
podcast
and I'm
creator and
host
of Asust
Me Panteon
a podcast
of
Pemas
we're
on the
platforms
of podcast
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to
know
and I
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I'm in
the
social
like
Ivan
and I'm
in all the
platforms
too of the
power's
down.
Perfect.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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the inlaces
direct to
the channel
to be in
the excellent
work that
you're doing.
To be
all the
people,
I know,
the people
know, I
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and it's
to try to
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And you're
to find the
information, and
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explorations
that we're
in the
places
mysteriousos
are in
our site
web.
So,
so you
go to
you guys,
you
you can't
see that
and see
that you
want to
you know,
sometimes,
I want to
ask what
you know,
what
you know,
the phenomena
paranormal,
of all the
what's
in these
places,
in the
bosques?
Well,
me,
I'm going to
make a
honest,
Paco.
I think
we
did it
to make
to make
a mow
I'm a
much, I
do I
really, because I
respect
much the
most of the
bosques.
I'm
I'm
also,
that even
that,
although,
for cartography,
you
do you
what
is what
there in
those
extensive
those places, that
doesn't mean
that there
is someone
that's
there's
there.
To say
that there
and that's
there.
And I think
that for
that there
there is a
mysticism of
respect to
the bosques.
There's
people who
even live
very
very close to
and not
enter a
certain
areas.
So I
think it
important
to have
a respect
because
not those
we know
in their
totalidad
to
a science
certain.
Fiatte
that
only
people
that have
passed
a
night
in a
that can describe that sensation a
bit agri-dulce, because
are places, just
like you mentioned, these great extensions,
that they'd be able to give
these pictures, impressive,
impressive, that is that
is full of life.
But when it gets the night,
these are the places
can't for complete.
We're, we visit us in the
year 23,
San Juan Evangelist,
Analko, in the Sierra of
Oaxaca,
primarily in the
zone of the
bosque,
the zone
boscosa
in the
evidence of
duendes,
that for sure
is in
content
exclusive
for that
they're going
to be
to be
a passionate,
no expert,
me
I'm always
to make
this to
clear,
no expert,
an appos
a fanatico
of terror,
I sent me
much a
man,
you,
you,
you know,
you're,
one,
because,
for the
nights,
in those
places, there are animals, no, insectos,
araeas, serpients, that can
be able to pop. But in the zone
where we're talking, we're talking to the
area where all the people
you say that there are duendes. And is that
for the context of the people in this
place, the guide that was with us, it was
a person, is a person that is
a person that is of this same people.
That he says, is that Paco, here
are in the caminos that nobody does. And
the camions that are little. So, you know,
are like,
like,
like,
people
chiquita.
So,
we've,
we've,
we've,
we've seen,
in parts of
the zone
alta,
like,
little mouettes
of that
someone preends
fogatas,
but all
is like in
chiquito,
you know,
so,
so,
so, all,
is in
little,
we've,
we've,
some,
someone's
like,
someone's,
I've been,
I've been,
it,
but the,
but the
people,
say,
that's
there's
so,
the chankees.
So,
we went,
we did this ritual
to get
an offender.
And is that
if I'm the
other man,
the place of
all the time.
I was always
saw, I was
all the other
things,
I was
that Ike
and for you
I think,
I'm too
respect to
these places.
Yeah,
I think
also the
that's a
lot of people
not can
be quite
not quite
not
I'm sure
some
stories inedits
of my
followers in
where
really are
places
that much
people
you're saying
that
are saying
that they're
because
I don't
think it's
because
all the
world
has to
get a
idea of
but I think
there's
that you
have
to respect.
In effect
as
what.
And if
you
hear you
not
think that
people
don't think
that
people
to make
a
a certain
a
people
about
something
that's
So,
brother,
if
me
permit,
if I
want to
talk
a
story
that I
know
about
about
this
story,
it's
me is
something
that's
strange,
too
surreal,
to
a certain
point
incredible,
because
I never
had
heard
of this
but
I've
found
information
and
result
that there
people
that
have
seen
to
a
type of
and
you
want
to
you
you'd
you'd
to think
or to
create
that
exist in
these
things
mythological
called
centauros?
I do
because
because
from that
then I
think they
had
had been
had
had
had been
a
reference
visual
to create
these
characters
centauros
sirenas
all
this type
of
kind of
of
these
type of
there
there
there
there
there
to
to
start
to be
there
there
person
of
name
Umberto
Guillen
that is the
person
that directly
us
write
to write
and we
know a
experience
that occurred
in the
year in
the year
in the
year
check in
the
data.
That person
is ory
our country
exactly
of Monterey
and he
said that
in that
he
was in
he was
an
interchamble
of students
he was
studying in
Japan
so he
justly
he was
I'm
doing a
ture
of
photography and
it's
supposed
that
there
there
there
more people
in
our
country
in
some
point
interesting
of
here
is
that
they
are
they
are
to make
to
those
and
some
some
sender
and
and
in
some
photos
that
he
in
some
moment
he
he
came
to
make
something
he
says
something
We, we've heard in some moment
rumors about avistamintamines
of a supposed lobo Japanese
in the bush
Aokigara.
And for context, it's an animal
that is extinct,
but they're going to
to hear these rumors
of that,
they're seeing a lot
in that bush.
So,
they, with much
fear and much
care,
decided visit the
box with his
cameras, that in
that at all
then,
they were cameras
of roo.
Me,
they're exactly
even the
model of camera,
but,
but we're going to
say,
but we're going to
our cameras in
buska of some
evidence,
something, or for
the experience,
you know,
to go to
go to us to
get us to
get us,
no,
I'm a tass
of coffee,
and it's,
even one of
my friends,
but she
like much
too,
maybe,
maybe
also,
I'm not a
plant, but also
says that they
they're going,
with the
experience and the
intention
to take
photographs,
even to do a
mini-documental
about
how it was
that was,
in that way,
then there was
there was
they were
all this
work,
no?
They're
they're
they're
in an hostel.
And here
came the
interesting
because
they're
this
was it
was a
sometimes
it was
going to
a
movie
of terror.
They're
getting to
this hostel
the
person,
one of
three is
the
that was the
native of the
area of the
area,
and says
that the
person,
the duke,
he's
to give a series
of indications.
And this,
from,
from,
this is it
really a
story
very strange.
Because he's,
what type
of indications
they give?
That not
they're not
to do that
zone,
justly,
that not
around,
that's
that's not
of the
world if
they're
like,
you're
like,
they're
that's
made the
point of the
sound of
a point,
a
little,
no
see
you've
heard
the
Regles of the Mountes
Just that's
I'm thinking
Paco.
Tal qual.
So the person
the senior,
the senior
Japanese, he
said,
do they do
do they do
that they're
doing that they're
and say they're
menhete,
people,
they're going to
believe,
they're doing,
they're doing,
they're
evidently
they're
seeing that
we're
not coming
to be able
to be,
they're doing,
you can't
say you,
you're spending
on a
night there
and at
the day
The day next
they're
in the
public
in the
evidence of this
lobo
Japanese
that's
going to
the 8
the morning
he's
that they're
going
coming
on some
some
some
taking
various
photos
of the
area
something
there
there
there
there
is a
record
that
they
they're
to
start
something
they
said
they
first
they
started
to
they
they're
they
they're
coming
in
circles
and
this
I
want
to
make
And so, Pac, we know we're
the experience of
to be in these
places, says,
maybe not in this
bush, but we're
the experience of how
we're doing,
how to use the
brucula and
all these
things.
We started
to come in
line recta,
and for
some reason,
it's like
if we're
coming in
circles.
And me
I did
quite,
justly,
me said
Umberto
because
had I
had I've
had a mark,
something
and it was
like
if we're
doing this.
And I said to them, look,
we've got, we've,
we've got to pass us
for here three
times.
And the other
two are saying,
well,
yes,
you know,
I'm
talking about
exactly of this
zone.
So,
like,
they're,
because,
if we're
coming down
in line
right?
And here
there's
something.
Because
it's
supposed
that the
things
magic,
mythological,
seres,
beings
spirituales of
the
naturalness,
they're
the faculty
to disorientart
to,
they're
the faculty
to
like
you say,
it's
a busk,
enchanted,
te chis-and,
and they
make you
start
to start
this part
important.
They decide
to change
the route and
to get to
move to
line right to
come in line
to come in
the hostel
where they're
getting to.
They're
they're not
that in the
piece
there were
like these
pieces of
serbos,
of animals,
then they
started to
take photos.
But they
notice
they're
He says, in best of
the way
that we're
we're going
we're going
we're going
we're
other
other thing.
It's like
so we're
so we're
going to
where we
we're going
something
we're
not we
don't know.
Here
all so
when they
get a
one where
says that
there was
two
three
but
they were
like
they're
being
like a
triangle
and
it's
it's
it's
it's
it's
even
we're
we're
we're
two
They were two arbores that
were very
very old,
that not is
that the
wind so plo
and it,
no,
it was like
that you
have been in
this
postura,
in this
form,
much time.
So,
so it
was a
thing,
and they
they were
and they
went to
that they
did you,
it's
really,
it's really,
it's really,
the real,
the lot.
What's
what?
We said,
we're,
we're,
we're,
we're,
we're,
we're
to
notice
something
The earth that we're going to
pass into
it was like
of a color
rojo
not the
the earth
conventional
marron,
coffee,
the earth
was a
red,
we started to
see that
there was a
change,
like in the
vegetation,
yeah no
there were
there,
there were
arboles and
abusts,
even even
even even
more
little,
so like
if they're
in
other
place.
This
this was
to make
to make
to
We want to beacar, we'll, we'll,
and the brucula,
and the brusole,
I'm really super
extra extrana,
because like it's
where they're going to
start to espantar
because they're,
there,
we're to
look at the form
to get to
get to
and they're
to come to
the same,
that they're
in line,
that not
in line
straight,
that are like
in circles,
and here
here comes the
more bizarre
of the
history.
They're
they're first
to see
the presence
like of a person
that's
like the
and says
Paco,
the first is
we're coming
to learn in
a voice
you're in a
a voice.
You can't
when someone
when they're
running,
the plantitas,
the raises,
all.
And they're
we're
we're just
we're just
we're just
we're just
this murmur
like this
sound of
animals
and we
said,
we're
we're
we're
like,
uh,
liabres,
no
something,
insectos,
but
he was
a
very
very much
and it's
it's not a
very,
it's not
four.
He said,
we're
we know,
we know
that we're
we're
that we're
we're
that, blah,
blah,
and they
say they
they're
they're
to get a
part
where
where it
can be
a little
more
the
box of
a lot of
the
and they
can't
that the
business
even
even
distinct
to
how
they've
had
seen
these
photos.
they're
they're
they're
they're
they're
and they're
and he's
when one of
they're
doing a
one of them
is when
this person
pego a
grito and
he's what
he's
saying he's
he's
saying to
start
to say
I'm
I'm gonna
hear this
part
because
if it's
me
very interesting
how
it's
Paco
one of
one of my
one of my
people
was
I'm
just
nothing, simply
started
to make
a seignas
to
we're
a
way
at the
camera,
and when
we're
we're
first we're
primarily
what is
the part
of the
animal,
of a
sierbo
but when
this
being
completely
of the
arbusto
we
we did
we know
that
that
we're
we're
to
a
person
that no
exist
a
a
a
sort
mythological
a
a
that is
known
as centauros.
He said,
I don't
I'm
not a
other
level.
He said,
one of the
three,
he was
he was
my
companyer that
he was
he was
the other
two no.
This was
impressive.
The three
we got
the on
us got
much
a lot,
it was
like a
jubia
of
the
feelings
of
this
emotion,
terror.
Dice
we're
we're
we
we're
We can't continue being because we
We didn't know that
Not was
So we knew that
was macho because
his rostro
He had these
Raskos
masculine and
here I'm going to
explain how he was
This ser
Because it's
a little
similar to
the sirenas
That they're
Pintan bonitas
beautiful
beas
no
Dises
it's like
if it's like
If it
Mita
Humano
Mitae
animal
but the
the rascos of
his
rostro
not are
completely
humanas
yeah that
they're
in the
eyes and even in
the hands
in this part
of the
hands also
like if
were a part
animal
or is a
mix of an
animal and
but you
make a
kind
that is more
animal
than
human
no it
not is
how they
they're
in the
questions
that is
completely
human
no no no
even
even
there was more than one.
Some of the form of the
book as if it were trompa
and we don't know
much of fear
because that we knew
that we knew
that was macho
for the form of
his rostro
and at the
other but
was more
little.
Something like
if it was
his son
were his
one abust.
In that
we said
we're we
we're
we're
we're
we're
we
we're
we're
of terror
He says,
detract of
us in a
part
altar,
we're
very far
to see
to the
other
four
that they
were
seeing
to be
to be
directly.
The
first
we know
is that
his expressions
are
expressions
are
not
good
expressions
even
animals
more
salvages
than
other
thing
and
what
they
they're
they
they're
they
they're
they
they're
that
they
a pair of
arbores
in form of
a triangle
and they
started to
go and
they're
to go
to go and
they're
but
not they're
not they're
they're
after they're
before
to get to
get to
where
was this
portal
if we
want to
see we
was
one of
these
they're
they're
like
like
if
were
the
leader
so
his
pelager
was
much
more
more
more
more
great
than
the
other
that
had
seen
and
He said that
without
because here
is the
bizarre,
in no
moment
he was
the
book to
talk,
all of
all the
mind.
And they
didn't
have
heard,
he got
a
phrase
that
said,
no
they're
here.
And
to
go to
have
what they
have,
what they
had in
his
hands
every
people,
their
cameras.
they're
they're
the only
form
that they
found
to get
to get
to get
his
instruments
and say
Paco
those three
we'll
we'll
see
and we
we
had to
our
cameras
one of
them
and the
message
was contendent
and the
message
they're
they're
they're
they're
so they're
we're
we're
we're
we're
we're
our
the
Rappermient,
we'll
have a
one
lot,
automatically
says that
is a
same,
that's
that's
a little,
and we
make the
pass.
When
we're
we're
we're
exactly
the same
that we
have been
the
photos,
the
where we
had
been
the
places
there.
And
the
actually,
it was
a
few
meters
of
where
was the
way
the
side
to
this
buske
says
we
don't
never
of what we've ever,
to what we've
never we
never to
someone
never in the
life,
neither when
they're
to get to
mehick
they're
who's
what you're
to think
to be
to be
a real
a bitological
in Japan
or in a
busky
so nobody
to do you
know,
even this
story,
much
people,
nobody
he will
but
they're
they're saying
Paco
I know
what I
see
if I
could
if I
could
if you
we take
photographs
And we don't take one.
Every one,
every one,
every one took,
that was with
another, that was
a lot of his
and of his
two, there's a
lot of photographs,
but a lot of photographs.
All of them
in that place.
In some moment
they're,
they're with
a person
that,
because,
we know,
they're
to ask them
for this famous
lobo that
they were
but with the
intention of
that he was
to that point,
never
have
those two
arvoles
that were
in form
like a
triangle.
It's like
if never
I've been
it's of
the stories
more bizarre
more
extra than I
have read
in the
email.
No,
you know,
you know,
it's interesting
because
the initial
when
you know,
when you
have said,
that they
had said
of the
existence of this
and that
they said,
they're
they're
saying,
they're
maybe the
maybe,
I think
for a
moment,
that maybe
it's
one,
that
I've
been
many
many
many
I'm
like,
I'm going to
do,
I'm
to go
to go
to do
to
the inverse.
But
yeah
that's
like a
sort of
a
kind of
of a
kind of
you're
going to
get to
this
time,
it's
to think
that
was a
absolute
coincid
that
that
because
disappeared.
I think
was
genuine
that
what
what
lived
in the
sort of
not
I mean,
I'm envied all this, because this type of portals,
between comillas,
see,
also in serros,
they're also in mountains.
In fact, we've an episode of
serros and mountains,
and it's about these famous
Ports that also
that also
and my doubt,
existential is,
why some people
see those are
and others not?
In what consists
that appear in
these,
these ports abirtas that
They went like another dimension, because is what I
I understand in this story.
They're entering to other
where the earth was different,
the atmosphere
distinct, all of the atmosphere
distinct, all right?
Apparently, they were in the
bush, in the same, but
like if entered to another
plan existential, that's like
very parallel to our
like another dimension, if
we want, and is where
are where they're, where
were these beings.
Sure, no, super interesting.
of this mysticism of the
Bosques,
that's the
in the mountains
in Japan
but I don't
if you're
familiarized
sure if
the triangle of
Bennington in the
Montes Appalaches
these five
people that
disappear in a
lapse of five
years and that
until the day
of today
there's about
that there's
there's
that there's
they're just
they're just
the relogues
serve for
nothing.
So,
if there
to have
something
now
to
try to
explain
it's
difficult
but
so
a special
something
something
that's
that's
something
you know
necessarily
that you
have
disappeared
or that
that's
that
not that
was simply
the
same
the same
crossed
this
kind of
exactly
it's
very rare
manno
it's
very rare
that type of
stories of
that's
the word
they're
that's
that's
that's like
to go.
It's like,
it was like
the phrase
that they were,
it's a
thing that's
something that's
all the three
I'm not
people,
the majority
are you know,
the majority
are you guys,
I'm not, you know,
is a reserve natural
protected
of more
5,000
hectares.
We're talking
of a
place
supermently
great.
So,
so great
that has
different
entrances,
has various
parages,
has various
zones,
and the
peculiar
is that
this place
this place
this
a place
in where
the family
pass
the time
and does
activities
to the
air
free.
You know
about
cyclism,
of rappel,
but in the nights
soceden
stories that
very few people
preferrificen
to beistamintos
ovaries
to stories
of bruchas
a ritual
satanical
even if you
go to
an her
medeceka
if you
you vas
you look
in internet
you
you can't
notas
of people
that has
heard
the
that has
been
been
recatated
in
helicopters
because
they don't
they
can
they
can't
come
It's like if the Sierra of Guadalupe
had two cars.
One, where the people
will be to
get to be a
and to pass
a rathos in family
and other
where literally
terminate
all the part
constructed and
the bush and
the mountains.
This story
occurred in
the state of
Mexico,
specifically for
the entry
that they're
in Coacalco
and he occurred
to the designer
of my team.
He,
one day,
decide,
knowing
all the
stories that
are around
to the
sierra
to do you
to do that
to make a
time
a little
and to
visit what
they're
they're
like the
Cue
of the
Diablo.
The
adventure
started
at the
morning,
all
was
they're
they're
because
they're
to
camped
and then
they're
with
sleepings
they've
went
with
chamars
with
all
the
equipment necessary. When
they've been
more or less
two hours
of the
time, a
child of
a girl
says,
I need to
go to
go to
the
and for
so they're
on a
little of
the
center of
different to
separate to
the other
groups.
Because
this is
important,
when
they ran
the
way,
they went
with
various
groups,
they're
a
person.
The
chick
go to
go to
when they
they're
trying to
get to
they
do they
they're
doing
that they
are going
and get a
point in
that's
done
that
there's
there's
people and
they're
extraviated
and they're
saying
okay,
it's
very clear
that if
there's
that we
did a
wrong,
we're
going to
do
make
and in the
time
they're
and they're
when you
started
to have
to be
a
because
they're
how
we're
we're
going to
we're
going
we're
going to
three
four
hours of
this
and
It was to be a free,
it was to
a,
the light of the sun,
the obscurity,
the obscurity,
the dark,
and they said,
and they're
talking about,
and they're
to hear
susrots,
and they're
to hear
and they're
to hear
that when
they were
in a direction
of the
front,
they were
they're
they're
even they're
even,
even they're
even when
you're
and they
said,
this could
be that we
we're
we're just
we're
And we're
pervying
the control.
They're
to calm
but,
well,
at final,
if no
they're in
the room
the
way,
they're
to be
to be
something.
When you
yeah,
the plan
is,
it's
going to
the
light,
a little
a silhouette
like a
about
about a
50
meters,
but the
silueta
came
coming
to them
to
them.
Decid
to be
in group
what
whatever that's that
that
he
he's
obviously
with the
meters
and
he's
a
figure out of
that
was a
woman
a
was
a
woman
of a
year
and
she
and
the
hair
black
but
with
many
many
can
and
two
things
they
they
particularly
the
attention
one
one
that
the
she
was
a
a
one
my
designer
says
that
no
can
can't
be
descalzo apco.
The
peteras,
the
pieces of
the pieces of
the matter
you're
and the
other
is the
mirabing.
It was
this
mirab
that when
she
was
was
was a
very
was so
penetrante
that
they had
to
have to
get
the
mind
it was
like
if
they're
like
like
under
an
authority
the
she
she
says
that she
she
can
you
can
the
the sendero principal that
is going to
get to the
out of the
busk.
And obviously
asustated
they're
we're doing.
The
signora
said a
middle
and he
starts to
comeinar
but
caminaba
rapidissimo.
They said
that no
coincidia
no,
no, it
had a
second
that she
would be
a
rhythm
that they
not
could
continue to
start to
not per
but they
get to
point in
that
the
plan the
woman
disappears
in a
curve
for
much
they're
they're
they're
they're
not
the
second
they're
there
were
in
those
days
my
my
designer
me
and
the
notes
the
report
of
the
record
of
how
they
took
those
helicopters
when
back
those
paramed
when
they
back
the
They tell them what
What's going?
They said,
we're very
We're
We're going to
We're
this lady
And they're
And then
That's
She's a
She's a
woman and
I'm going
to get them
to the
buske
to
To put them
in Candid
Dich
And he
he,
because he
he
and he
And that
she's
very
strange
and you
not
regress
to this
part
of the
campism
and to
do
the
explorators
because
experts
not
were
I mean,
I'm
I'm just
to
I'm sure
to think
it's impressive
because
it's
it's
obviously
that in the
state
of Mexico
of the
actually
we're
we're
we're
we're able
we're
if you
do you
do you
you're
you're
you're
you're
you're
to be
that you're
so far
in the
state of
Mexico
in
a
one
the
area
the
pyramids
of
the
sacrifices,
exactly,
that are
like some
some pyramids
that have
there's
many people
imagineate
tantis
many people
know that
there are
there's a
one of
and it's a
way that's
really
very much
so it
and that
the
people
are at this
place
because
they're
they're
in the
energy
of this
city
we
we're
here
here
I'm
at a
one
one
one
once we
we
went to
a
place
a
presa,
called the
Presa
Serrode-Oro.
It's
like a
hour of
here.
I'm
with my
brother.
There's a
other
there's a
question.
Not you
see all
really, it's,
so it's
not not
not busk
for
favor.
But it
has been
a lot of
podcast.
I saw that
that investigation
between
commies.
Well,
when we
took us
there,
I'm
with a
person and
me said
Paco,
in
that
that you
subist
there's
there's
there
there
there's
there's
much more
than that's
the
city of
a town
of a
kind of
like a
kind of
so there
there
there
the
pollators
the
many
for the
many
because
there
there
there
there
is
like
a
a
place
there
there
there
there
there
also
result that in that
in that city
live or is what
is what is
a great,
live or vivia
a gigante
okay,
is okay,
is it
okay,
said,
only take
care,
no,
you know,
I've
gone,
I've gone,
I'm going,
but I'm
supposed,
that
has many
years in
this
area of
Guajaca,
the
people,
the
people, the
people,
the
because they
they'd
they were
from the
people to
this
and they were
a bigante
because we
we're
that the
be from
the way
and it's
right and
not it's
like a
person
normal,
you see
you can
you
see a
figure
great.
It's
supposed
that they
make this
point
to cross
and
how to
do a
act,
like a
kind of
a
not you
do you
don't know
we
we try
and
we say
that
every
every month,
all the
people
were all
and they
they'd
get them
fruit,
bird,
they'd
get those
animals,
poeos,
gallinas
and they
did you're
for many
years.
In some
point,
then they
can't
do this
famous
gigante,
the point
is going
deteriorating and
it's
even even
inaccessible.
What
me to tell
to this
person that
is of
this
place
10 years
there
four students
of the UNAM.
And the intention
was,
you know the
zone,
cartographier
also and
explore that
that quaver.
Nobody and
many many years
had entered
to that
that
the people
yeah,
the,
the people,
the people
said,
no,
enter in
there.
As many
years,
it's
supposed that
there was
like,
like,
okay,
the four
are,
man,
no. A guide
local
those
literally apply the
to actually
I'm not
going to go
to get to
get to my
work.
I don't
let's
guarantee that you
that you
do you
want to be
I'm going to
because the
entry of that
a covea
not is a
little is a
big
big and it
even't
like if
something
like if
there.
So the
four students
says
well we
we're
we're
we're
we're
He says only that if you're
too long as you're going to
and I'm going to have to go.
And if you're not going to
give the advice to the people of the
but nobody will enter
for you.
Herman,
for that's
a person of the four
demurro three days.
And that person
was a student
and this
me what told
the people of this
place,
it was like
if it was like.
The type
So, the only
that I repeatia
is my
my friends
they're
my friends
they're all
the time
repeated.
The time
was the same.
He was made
the type of
the time.
He had made
made a lot.
The people,
the people,
the people,
the children,
saw this student,
nobody
said,
nobody,
the authorities
locales
of plan,
they said,
we said,
we didn't
we,
we said
that not
they were to enter them,
maybe
they were
like in the
meters,
so much
but it's
a covea
gigante,
carma,
no, it's
something
that person
was there
three days.
So in
some of the
invitation to
go,
I go,
it's
I mean,
I'm going to
this is,
I'm sure,
I'm thinking,
because,
obviously,
they're
saying,
for there,
no,
this,
no, this,
no,
you know,
you look
to be
three
three feet
to
has four.
Sure, and no.
And,
and, also
if your intuition
you make
doubt it,
that's a
message very clear.
I'm a
way, but I'm
not so, I'm
because,
for some reason,
I'm not,
I'm going to
go to a place.
I'm going to
go to another
state,
even other
country, but
that's the
that I'm a
hour,
yeah,
no,
I'm going,
I don't go,
and I'm,
and always that
I'm, you,
like,
like,
no,
more, no,
so,
like,
no,
I'm,
like,
I'm,
like,
My spouse me says, no, no, no, you go there.
Saludos.
Because I, I mean, I have that intuition
co-corasoned that something
that something is that's not
a zone, no, no, no,
so, nobody's like to say, ah, is the co-vement.
No, no, nobody knows.
Neither I, that's quite, I'm
that I'm close, I'm not.
So, those are the places
that me do me do, my mind, brother.
Yeah, yeah, me too.
Look, I'm going to tell you.
I want this next story
that we're titled,
It's very rare because
also it's a one
a brouca,
or better
said,
a little
community rural
a local
to say,
and the way
that's a
way of the
Guaviare in
Colombia.
It's a
story that
came from
from the
person that
says,
Paco,
this no
me,
he passed to me,
he passed
to my
abelito
Ceperino
in the
year 1958.
In
that old Ceperino
had just
only 25
years.
He was in the flower of his youth.
He us said that in this
zone, is a zone
that's surrounded by a selva,
a cellba, a small
that's way,
so in that
all the time,
all over,
and more when
you'd be,
it was, it was
inaccessible.
They're great
extensions,
well,
where many
women and
in that
then were
and then,
they'd
be mending,
and limping the
mountain
to be able
there.
There was
much people
that
renunciable,
as
the situation
economic
is
very
bad
we're
doing
we're
going to
work
as far
because
they're
they're
for desmond
land
land
to
make you
a
plantano
is what
they
they're
they're
so
those
people
they
were
that
that
was
a
little
money
to
get
some
so
there
so
the
other
the
man
so
Sephirino,
I went to this
place,
he
started to
work just
fornades
very long,
jornas
after of
12 hours
in the
sun,
sembrando,
limping,
the
mountain,
a work
very admirable
for,
for the
people,
for the
time,
imagineate,
tantas,
just something,
in a
time,
in that
then,
they're,
to disappear,
people,
But the
people, in general, the
people
started to say,
well,
surely
there's
something,
or a
more,
maybe a
thing of
security.
So the
police local
had to
and began
to pick
these
bulletines
of busk
in the
parts of
the people,
justly
where there
was a
person.
The question
that
said,
Don Ceperino,
is that
the authority
said
this,
but the
Ancians
of the
area
create another
thing.
And is
that I'm going to say
something.
The ancients
know what's
the
knowledge.
The sabiturial
not is
gratis.
What are
they said
they're in
the maldard
he's
to start.
There's
something in
the
bush that
is very
oscour
and something
and it
is that
that's
that's
that's
they're
from
children,
and
even
animals
so the
so the
people
the
they're
all
they're
all
they're
these
these
the
of the
hos,
to the
handers,
to pass
for these
zones,
there's
there's
that the word that
they're used
is maldat.
Not they
say, duend,
de chanke,
bruchas,
demorians,
no.
They're in
general,
they're saying,
there's maldard
there.
Passa,
and Don
Seferi,
no,
that two
people of
their group
disappeared.
In a
first,
he said,
they're
that they've
been
to their
city of
origin in
Colombia,
but the
family
he said to
say
that really
they're
that really
they're
disappeared
so
so it
so it's
a very
rare.
In one
occasion
Don Ceperino
then
after a
day
of a
time
a lot of
some
some
some
meresied
services
so
then
a
can't
where
he's
talking
with
other
people
and
people
and
he said
he said
they're
like
he's
like
he's
so
then
Don Ceperino
had
to
come
to
much tramo
to get to
where he
was in the
he's
he's
he's
he's
he's going to
he was
coming and there
there's a
way he has
the way
the way
is the
side is the
side and
he's the
side and
he's going to
he was coming
and he
he's
he's
he said
he's he's
he's he's
he's very
very ebri
or more
Dichael,
much ebriot.
Even he
went to
tell that
he was to
tambaliening
that he was
that he was.
But he'll
to hear
to hear of
another
time.
So he
he'll
turn to
the
side of the
mountain
and he
said that
he's
a woman.
Hormosysim.
A
vestido
a
that he
had to
see a
figure
very beautiful
a
one.
The woman
had
a
big
a
big
a
woman
that
was
there.
and Don Cefino
Quenta the family
that's
completely
ignotized
with the mirab,
it was a
mirabye
that was a
looker
that this
man,
that this man
came up
completely
enamorated.
He,
he's devied
to his
way to
and he
was a
story that
you told
this woman
was coquet
but at
the same
time,
he was
comingando
and he was
coming and
and he was
coming
and then
and little
to
he was
to him
metying more and
to this
zone
boscos.
Don Cefriino
he said,
he said,
he's a
strange that
is a woman
so in
in the middle
in the
name
to the
where there
there's a
point,
but oh,
I'm
to see a
parenthesis.
There was
people in
that
that was
that
where he
where there
where there
where there
there's
those
things.
So,
he
said,
but well, there's
people that
do you
blah,
blah,
blah.
Total,
there's a
moment
where he
he's
simply
a
really
in the
no way
and the
light
and the
when he
and he
and he
a cabna
is what
he says
he's
a
family
and
he
and
when he
when he
he
the first
he
he be
he
is a
car
completely
dark
and
be
much
a
he
When the
view
to adapt to
the
obscurity,
he started
and he's
to be
the
people,
and these
are
very
familiares.
Pertenesian
to two
men
were
time
disappeared
that were
their
their
people
see
more
people
people
incated
like
if
were
notated
in
men
and
see
animals
men
animals
mured
he
got
to
get
that
the
piece
was
there
red, you know,
to what,
you know,
to what,
be a
lot of
people,
all of
the room,
was open
to the
exterior.
So,
where I'm
the, like,
the idea
to get to
get to
get to
get,
he said,
I'm,
no,
you know,
you'll
be,
you're going,
it's bad,
it's
bad,
it's a
bad, no,
that's,
that's a
family,
that at the
few minutes
entered three
women,
and they
And they'd have been harassing to a woman'sit of
some 15, 16, 16 years, super-joveen,
a little, almost, adolescent.
That's even semi-desmallied,
and they'd be they're being harassing.
These women,
not are as I've seen, Don Ceperino,
young, hermones, no?
They're women, yeah,
of very advanced age,
and I'd, I'd say,
very, very advanced age.
His rosters,
no, they're horrendous.
or so, and not for a
theme of
beauty,
but their
aspect,
apart of that
they were like
these
olors,
very malolientes,
the grand
majority of
these women,
they were
there's,
don't seferino
said that
the grand
majority
not had
dents,
some,
not had
hair,
well-vested
and these
women,
those
were,
but they were
all,
someted,
in
that moment
one of these
women
he said
a young
that
I'm at
a new
to get to
the door
abjointed
the
the young
and they're
going to
and the
women
and they're
to be
to be
and they're
and they're
and
they're
and they
they're
they're
to make
to make
to
a
little
the
he
he's
and
he
and
he said
that
after
the
some of
the
the
man
he
he
he's
he
he
had a
a
cuchio
in
his
Man.
Don Cepernino
he'll be a
face and
he's got
a question
that his
role
and he's
a animal
he was a
carrieing,
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but with the body of that young,
this type,
he was made her so,
voted.
After a while,
this man,
he died of the rodigias,
yore,
and he went to where Sephirino,
where Seferi,
no,
I don't know,
I can't go to,
I don't know.
So,
these
women
do these
and they're
like,
you know,
it's all
the door
over the
part of the
person,
he said,
no,
you know,
not you
don't say,
you're going to
go to be.
Diceke,
it was like
a little
a new time,
it was
we're going to
this
story,
a quagabro.
They
was always
there always
a person
that was
going to
go ahead,
don't
D'Frii
not
so,
and he was
saying that
person
would be
assassinated.
There's a point
where he
a Don Ceperno
be the person
that manned
to the other
world.
A man
is going to
and halling
to this
man and he
he'll
his experience
he says
that he
put him and
they're
they're
there's
many balas
and these
women
start
toce
they're
they're
they're
to get
to
but they
they
were
they
he was
he was
he
you're
falling in
a
dream
so
profound
but you
you're
you're
your mind
says
what you're
saying
and you
know that's
to know that
your
little
and they
do you
know that one of
those
put in
his
hands
or a
and he
like a
man
he's
a
he
he said
he
he had
a
his
human
mind
impossible
not
not
any
not
a
person
he
then
then
I'm
so
I'm
but he
to this baron
that he had
a rato
to have
been a
run,
he was
he was
he knew,
he knew
in what
he put in
the point
he had a
he was to
see a
question that
he was a
person,
he was
he was
that he
was that
he was
he said
he was
he was
he was
he was
he was
he went
to cross
on this
part of
the cooel
the
the man
he came
in
the moment
he'll take
to a
one
and he
he goes
to the
carna
and he
he's
he's
he doesn't
he
he does
he does
his
car
his clothes
his clothes
are
manchated
of this
liquid
vital
and he
he says
that in
that moment
one of
these
women
he looks
and he
he says
you're
different
to
to you
we're
we're
we're
we're
the option to
get you
or we're
the option
of the option
of the
option to
you know
a man
of the other
the other
I'm
a person
he's a
young
with a
person who
he said he
going to
get to
get to
do you
do they're
more I
risk more me
I'm
I'm
he's
he said
he's
he's
he's
he cruza
the
door
of that
car
he
back
and he
he's
he did
see
he
he's
they're
doing
and
all
all
they're
there
observantle in silence.
The only
that Don Seferino
went to his family
and he was that
in that moment
he,
he was,
he,
he, he,
he,
he was,
and he
he was
he was
that he
was after
of him.
But here
the great
difference
and what
he did he
did a
little different.
Don Seferino
had a
creencia,
he had
a faith.
In that
moment
he's,
he's,
he's,
he's,
not a
rosario.
A scapulario Catholic.
And he mentions that he
he's gonna,
and he's gonna
with his man
his capillary.
And he says
that he said that
he did a count
how the person
that had been
behind him,
for some reason,
he started
to disorienter and
he was
he could get
to the most
way far as
he did
know that
he did know
two hours
in getting to
a ranch
was
He was lost
in the most
profound
of this
he got
he no
he no
he was
he said
he said
he said he
got voted in
a little
he called this
only one
he said
to his
proper family
yeah
of very
great
and is
just basically
his nietto
who does
get the
story of donceferino
a story
where he
was
him was
he was
under
the control
of brujas in Colombia.
No,
you what opinion?
Oh,
what great
story, the
fact.
I think
that's,
obviously,
the image
of the
scapulary
helped,
but I think
was more
his faith.
So,
his faith,
his faith.
And that
is, I
think,
a arm
important,
in many
stories,
not only
only only
against
contra bruchas.
So I
think
definitely his
faith
was more
more than
the same
way,
not,
the faith
move in
mountains.
He's
a
ferro
to that
brother,
more
this
sentiment of
supervivency
to say
I'm a
question,
I'm going to
this story
occurred
has a
lot of
many years.
Imagine
how many
years.
It's
impressive
to all
what he
all what
exists and
that very
many
we know.
I
remember
of a
story,
to
I
tell you
I
and it
has
many
many
points in
common
with
you
know
a
story
to the
generation to
his
generations
the
mountain, this part
that in the
mountain
there's
a
one of the
one of
her
name of
his
abel who
had a
fero
and he
could
tell her
this
was in
Guamantla
in Clascal
his
his
his
abuel
was
a
police
he
he was
normally
patrui
and in
an occasion
receive
a
time
that in
the
Mont, specifically, no
in what part,
there's a
person
erida.
And he
no tarded
much in
acudy
to come to
he had
been got
he had
been
another
team of
policeies to
the victim
only saw
he was
he was
he was
he was
he was
he was
the
death
the
fallecid
he went
to
the part
as the
part, as
we could
say
semepfu
of Tlaskala and he
he had the opportunity
to see a
this person that had
had been
the life
and when
he took
the manta
this person
had herrises
of garras
like sarpasos
very
great and
very profound
and
and from
that day
he proved
to his
his kids
and to
go to
the mountain
because in
the mountain
he said
that
that creature
Intentaron
Occultarro.
Of course
But he
he was able
And from
And from
it was like
Like that
not could be
there.
And he
took about the
time to the
abel
and he
even was
that he
was to
he just
transcended
that
that
the nita
he
was
that
the fact
I'm
particularly
me
particularly me
he said
that was
he was
he was
he was
I'm
was that I'm
also
but
But I'm
really the attention
the history
and he says
my abuel
person of
the first
no
he had to
inventing
that story
is more
I'm
not I'm
really a
and he
took to
live to
she yeah
the
and the
fact is
that it
is that
is real.
That's that
my
abelites
my abelite
and I
can't be
many times
and they're
always are
tremendously
interesting
incredible
the people of
the
other
recent are
not a
real real real
so I'm not
another story.
This is
of a
second you
know,
and this is
I'm very much
Manuel,
to have
the partied,
and this
passed,
he was
26 years
he was in
the preparatory
he had a
friend,
he knew a
friend,
he's
he was
a expert
in scouting.
He liked
much to
do a
senderism
campism
and,
of a little
he was
getting to
these
activities.
In a
occasion,
he,
Emmanuel,
Mark,
and two
people
decided to
go to
the
place of
Salazar,
there
and the
rumbos
to Luka,
and the
idea was
there's
there's
many many
of the
poeas,
peeing of
and they
do a pean
to make a
activity
to get
to be
to campar.
That's
was the
plan.
To what
where
where they
were to
get interesting.
Pockes
many
have put the
hair
of the
point like
this
he
he's
he's
know the
place
he
had
he
came
so
then
he
was
direct
no
they
didn't
they
they
they
they
they
they
they
a
barranca
in
where
there
is
the
but
above
are
there
are
little
little
and
comm
that
he
denomin
cabas
because
because the
structure
natural
of
the
Piedras
has
that you
can't
make
into the
space
and in a
in a
cabanita
they're
they're
to get to
one of
those
places
they were
to make a
where cabas
they were
to make
they're
their
things and
something
the cabana
had
also
also
a
space
on
the
front
is
we could
we're
we
could
have
a
They started to their activities,
they were all the day
doing rappel,
and when you had been
finished to come to
the night,
decided to return to the cabana
to pass the night.
Marko was a person
that was very in-serio
the campism,
at the point in that
when from that
when they got
to get him
he knew the
thing,
he said something
that he was
like, it was like,
was like,
to register the zone.
It's
is to say, that
they're in an
an entomner
that's
that's
they'd be in
the other
the things
that were
to feel like
to be
sure, it's
that they were
to beckes
to becky
to be able to
be able to
be able to
be able to
imagineate of
how much
was the
space
that cabian
those four
with his
sleeping bags
and they
could turn
a fogat
like
there
space
between the
peteras
there's
there's
there's
about
the
human
and they're
perfectly
sure.
I'm going
about the
time
were like
at the
one of the
night,
midnight
night,
they,
the
the
that was
the
guardia
and they
say,
shh,
cackens
and
listen,
it's
a
little
you're
they're
they're
they're
they
they're
not
they're
they're
they're
that
they're
that
But the
Bromma
when
at the
15, 20
minutes
Marko,
the leader,
the leader,
he said,
cackens, because I'm
a little
were the
men,
but they were
like,
of a
five years,
not they were
of a
baby.
They were
they're
they're
they're
getting
nervousos
because
those
yantos
were
in pisades.
Pisades
that
they were
a little
a lot
and that
they were
going to
even
there was a
moment in
that the
the
pastas
they were
up
of them
like if
was
up
the
the
the
what they
they're
saying
is
to
ask you
ask you
they
ask
to
mark
what
we
say
what
that
is
that
is better
that
enter
to
to
we
we
we can
we
we
We can't
We can't
We can't
We're going to
So we're going to
We're going to
We're going to
This is
Like these
These people
Stubberer
Estabiding
every
At the
Entrida
When
yeah
They even
The Chucyos
in man
So it
A grito
A grito
That Emmanuel
Cree
that was
A man
But
Others of
The
people
said
That was
The
the gritty of a
woman.
No,
they're not
putting
in a
question
the nerve
of the
know that
to be a
little
is a
little is
something,
that just
when
the
the fear,
the
the
the
fear of
and it
says,
you know,
you
let's
get a
to
go,
it
in direction
to the
side,
to the
space
that was
the
place,
the
the
the
And the
MEDO
And the
people said,
BAMONUS
They're
They're
to start
one for
one.
The penultimate
in
Salir
was
Marko.
Emmanuel
me
He said
that when
Mark
he
for the
entry
of the
Cueba
he says
that
never in
his
life
will
forget
the
car
of
Marko
because
never
he
had
seen
with
MED.
Mark
Volte
A
He opened some
eyes
and
obviously
Emmanuel
for
pure instinct
he'll
look at
what is
that's
assupting
to
Marko
and what
he
in the
entrance
of the
cave
is a
a
sombra
a
dark
and
at
the
height
like
of
a
little
maybe
was
a
20
a
30
he
was
petrified
Emmanuel
no
he
he
could
move
and
of
a
repent,
a
hallon
of
Marco
he
he's
a
trance
and he
he'll
for the
out of
the
the
little
night.
In this
then
then they
had
been
maybe
one
more
more
more
more
and
it
was
so
that
they
were
in
but
they're
so
they
they're
and
they're
not
the
night
to go to go back
because for the hour
was a
dangerous and
because they
know what
they had passed.
They were
experts,
for the
most Marko.
Never had
lived
something
had been
you know,
what you
think you
think you
could have
been a
duend,
but at
final what
they were
a
somber
then also
they
didn't
do you
know.
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is that
what I
I can
say
that I
was in
a peeing
of lobes
that's
that
that's the
place
that's
super
pesed
of night
of the
day
of the
place
has a
climate
is free
there
no
but
the
night
that
is
pesas
and
there
and there
there
so
from
because
because
the
the
the
bra
the
war
the
was the
investigation
that
we
did
there
duendes and,
and, over
too,
much
spirit
of
Muerto.
There's
a part
of this
bush of
peanalobos
in Hiloxingo
that's
called the
cajada
of the
Murtos,
which is
where in
some moment
us
talked to
our
guide,
that we
were
there,
when when
they started
to explore
the zone,
they've
found
basias
of barro
grandisimus.
And the
people
thought,
well,
yeah,
I did
the
people,
brother,
what there
were
there.
They were
dead
of the
kids.
Of.
So,
so
I'm
so I'm
to go to
investigate
evidently
there
would be
more
more
because
if the
time
we,
we've
in a
risk
very
not
I'd
obviously
to
to my
family
and
to
my
my
little
so
so
so
they're
super,
um
man,
strong energetically.
I think
what they
saw a
demonio.
Because a
bruise,
I saw a
brother,
not is
so.
But that
appearance as
a man
sombra,
that's
move,
that's
that's
that's
that's
that's
things,
are in
that are
they're in this
thing, that
the person,
and the
world in this
mind,
when you
have you,
they're
regosified,
because
they're
express a facie. It's like
So, it's your
aliment. It's their
food.
It's your
love to
and it's
that they're
really
they're just
to get to
you feel.
I want to
this last
story,
that if I'm
that if I'm
sure,
I'm going to
get to
interview to
one of
them.
This is
interesting and
I want to
ask a
question,
I want to
do a
question.
You have
heard of
the famous
escaleras
in the
Bosque?
For
supposed.
The spirals.
Exactly.
Yes,
this
was a
few years in
some photos,
in Reddit,
forums in Reddit,
forums in
where he's
explorators,
they're
to show
what you
know what
came to
do you
to do you
do you
do some
in the
middle of
the
this
this
was to
a crepe
pasta
and I
want to
give the
context
because
they
create
these
regals.
justly
it's just to
do a
to do
in these
forums and
the United
and Canada
are the
places where
they're
that were
that
were in
these
escaleras
that not
they were
not they're
a reason
of
the
because
they were
there
were
to appear
on
these
on the
places
where you
there
there
no
there
no
there
explication logic of how
they're
and the
interesting,
the escalars
are perfectly
limpies.
Like if
someone
them are not
oxidated,
not are
socied,
it's all
all clean.
Much
assurances
that
not even
the same
animals
are
to get
to these
escalers,
the
environment
can be
when you
you're
sometimes,
even
even even
even
even
even
even
the
some
some
guard
bors
also
advi
that
if you
see those
you
do you
know
you're not
to do you
not the
subas
and not you
get to
get to
there.
Some people
say that
when you're
that's
the
space of
portal.
The time
passes
different.
Your
relog
is a
tont
your
brucula
your
GPS
what or
it's
to say
and
some
people
describe
that can
be
some
can be
madeira or
even
like if
were they
were in
marmol
that's
it's rare
so
many
people
they're
they're
much
with a
thing
type of
the
triangle of
the
Bermuda
what
we're
talking
now
yeah
I
did the
context
there
a
person
of
a
American
of
32
years
he
took
an
experience
in
Canada
precisely
and
I
want
the
information
because
this
that Jorge
us
doesn't
not
he
he
a man
he
a
a
a man
he
he
went to
he
he
said
we
we're
involved
in many
problems
economic
here
in
Mexico
many
problems
so
then
a
day
and
a
family
we
we
we
we
we
we
got
to
go
to
work
to
Canada
just
I
I've
I've
I've
the opportunity
to talk
with him
for message
for
call to be
and we
said he
said they're
saying
personal
he's like
all this
this
process and all
this
logistic
me has
made
the
my
prime
of
to put
me
all the
documents
in
regular
even
even
he said
you know
you
know
you
even
even
even
even
even
even
there
there
so
it
He's a other person
that no
I've been
permitted
to say
his name.
He's
they're
just to
a work
to work
a buskess
so there
a lot
right I'm
going to
say the
name
that's
extension and
extensions and
arm
kilometers
and kilometers
of bosque
so the
time.
The job was
very simple
months they were
all the
requirements and
they're
so they're
is a
the
of the
enderals
to be
vigilance of
the
campists
to be
not the
casers
not are
in certain
zones
revisal the
route
monitorer
the fauna
was
the chama
that he
was doing
the
actually
he and
he and
his
friend
he
and he
was
there
and
the
stories that
we've
people
they
they
start
to
have
a rata
and
I'm
mention
just
that they
they're
a thing
that was
a tendency
in internet
if you
you know
and they
say they're
that if they're
some
that's
that's
so much
obviously
Jorge and
his friend
says
okay
okay
it's
okay
not I
think we
see that
and like
why
appear
in some
these
they're
they're
not
they're
not
they're
they're
his
his
person
I can't
let's
I can't
just
I'm
on the escaleras,
no's
they're
they're
they're
they're
they're
they're
an protocol
a protocol
that's
effective
and he's
that's
he's
he's
he's
he
he was
doing a
roundin
in a
one
that he
he
he knew
perfectly
he
he's
there's
there
there
so he
he said
he said
he's
what he's
he said
there's
the
curiosity
he's
the
curiosity he's
Jorge
he
he gets
and he
starts
and the
first thing
that's
it's a
bit rarer
top of
a car
there
that's
that he
he's
sobe
and he
he's
he
and he
justantly
he goes to
he
he's
he can't
he
he's
the first
the first
he says
Jorge
how
you
It was. No, well, well, me
very well. And,
and you've seen
something rare. He said,
no, all right. All right.
All right.
Of a casualty, Jorge,
no, vistas?
In the bosque.
And Jorge, he
said,
yes, if you,
see, did you?
George, really,
that you
you're just
all the
that I did you
did you?
Jorge,
he said,
how do you
know,
and he said,
Jorge,
look to
your
context for
all
that's
rondin is
of 40
minutes
Jorge
he's
he's
he's
he's
you're
you're
he went
to look
to look
we've
we've
we've
we
we've
your
phone
for
favor
and
Jorge
no
says
paco
when
I'm
when I
see
my
telephone
is
impossible
is
how
the
time
so
how the
How can't
have
distracted
there
five minutes
exaggerated
six
only me
I'm
I'm
I'm sure
and I
see
that the
he said
he said
he said
for
favor
for
favor
if you
see
this
don't
you
do you
do you
he
he says
he
he says
a
something
so
sometimes
if
you
do
you do
do
a
how
no
do
Like, why not I'm going to
to do it?
So, it's
so I'm going to
but here
happened to
something very
very bizarre.
Mentiona
that was in
guardia
with his
company and
both had
certain
salas
of the
that they
were going
to be
going to
be
that I
did the
name of
the
buske
is the
park
national
Nahani
in
in this
Canada
in
Canada
just
so
so
so
in this
place
says
that are
passing
the
time.
And there
a moment
where
he's
going to
your
company,
and with
all the
indications
and all
these
and the
time,
to be
a hour,
for much,
his
companyer
no
regressa.
And
no
regressable,
and
he no
regressable.
And
automatically
Jorge
thinks,
something,
something,
or what
he
was what
he was
to
me.
Then
he,
in that
he
says,
that he
doesn't
regress
his
companyer.
Jorge
to
look to
get to
the zone
where he
was a
place to
the
he's
not a
a lot of
they're
like if
someone
and they're
to get to
his
friend
to
his friend
to
he
he
doesn't
do
I'm
not the
story
about.
It's
about
three years.
This person
what
in his
moment
is that
some
animal
he
attack
and of
him
only
they're
they're
only
they're
a
so
they're
so they're
so
they're
an
animal
a
some
a beastia
and
it's
and well
you know
the
not
the
not
the
family that's
something
something
something
something
what
so
what
so
and
I'm
I
want
to
tell
what
how
Jorge
me
he
he
said
Paco, this
that I'm talking
since we're
we're in the
year 2021.
No, it's
a little
time.
In the
month of
February,
of the
year,
2026,
or so
a few
months
after,
my
companyer
appeared.
When
me
they're
when they
were in
the
bush. Semidensnode,
glopied,
disoriented, but
bivo,
was totally
surreal.
So, from
2021 to
26,
5 years.
Muchissimo.
Muchissimo.
So,
that type,
he was
he, he
had to have
been
he said
he rapidly
he,
he'll,
he'll be
when he
had when he
had to
be a
super
He's a little
the family,
and was
feeling
that his family
was alive
but he
was a
calli
he was
only,
only a
little rato.
He said
because I
he was
he was
seeing a
point,
you're
talking with
it's
like if it's
a caron,
and he
he didn't
he,
only repeat
the
Ceres
of the
Boske,
the
Ceres
of the
Borske.
He said
only
he
regressed
to Mexico,
he's
in our
country,
is in
a state
that I
can't
say,
what is,
his
not a
news
so,
he's
a few
months
in
Canada.
Jorge
he
thinks
that
something
about
with
these
things
of
time
of time
has
to
with her.
I'm trying
I,
Paco,
to talk
directly with
this person.
Jorge
me facilitated
the contact
of her
man.
Has,
today is,
today is
a day is,
on the
the
domino
I was
to talk
with her.
But
no,
not me
permit
to bring
to get it
to
this
podcast.
That
woman,
the
only that
my
man,
my
no
has
been
the
same,
he's
if no
comes,
and
all the
time
is like,
like,
like,
looking at a
point where
there's
dependent on
our parents,
imagineate,
a person
that's in
40 years,
no,
can't
find a
employee,
no,
so,
so,
so,
so,
so,
so,
it's,
it's,
that
is the
that's the
thing,
a,
a stress post-traumat
that,
that has,
that,
that's,
that,
that's,
that,
that's,
it's,
very strange
honestly
I think
the stories
that have
about you
have been to
those three that
I'm making
things,
that are you
say, but you
say,
that's
that's the
life
real,
really,
that is
that's
that's
that's
that's
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm
with the
brother of
the friend
of her
and they're
listening
a
church
Christian
is the
only
that
me
That is like what more or less
can calm
a little
some kind of
some of the
thing,
but all of
some moment
he has been
what you're
what you're
what you're
and he's
he doesn't
talk about
him no
he's
he can't
calliow
that
that
that
that interview
oh ha'
no no
no
no
I'm
I think he
he has
he has
something
he has
no no
he's much
things
that are
so that
are
I would
rather
more
than to
to be
to be
to show
what
this
he's
to be
sure
I'm
sure
I'm
to tell
a
third
history
I'm
like
one of
our
of our
and
this
peculiarly
us
is
that's
anonymous
because
when he
he was
he was
he was
he
was
he
he's
he's
he prefer
to
get the
2001
in the
Marquess
there
in
Toulou
and the city of Mexico,
he says that
is patruyando
in the municipality
of Shalatlako
and that's
with his
companyer.
They're in the
patrol and
at the
front,
like a
70,
80,
80 meters,
they're
there's
there's
a bit of
a
first they
could be
a incendio
because
he'd
from the
pasto
but it's
a place
obviously
is a
prohibit
to be
foggatas,
they're
that maybe
they were
being
to be made
a
bad
to be
to be
back
to be
to be
to come
because
for that
place
not
not
could
advance
the
patrol.
Camin
on
three
four
minutes
to
this
fire
and
that
they
are
that
is a
fogata
and
that
around
of the
fogata
there
five
women
with
tunics
ne
that
have
even
a
capuch
that
that
tap the car.
They decide, for
that not they can't
put in pecho
a tier,
and permit me
to textual
what he
said he
said,
The women
were rare,
like if
were in trance,
not they were
playing,
but
were there
and they were
in the
flames
cruised
the fire.
The most
extrano
was that the
fire
was to
the
fire was
and they were
mutable.
And I
want to
think that
this is
an impression
absolute.
What do?
What are
they're
doing?
They're
even there
moments in
we'll see, not we'll
not be,
that he
is tappech
tierra
on the
right,
the side
right,
there's
his
his friend
and in a
moment a subit,
his companion,
there's
a lot of
he's
petrific,
and he
looks at all
a little
for that the
mirabreeperick
see a little, and
can't see a
one of the
one of
a new
he's never
he's
he's
no
he was
not even
moving.
They started
to get
this person
or this
here that
here
but I
still there
and
they're
there
they're
to make
to be
back to
still
to be
to
the point
in
that
one,
two,
three
they're
they're
they
they're
to
go
to
to
go to
they're alehan the sufficient,
they're,
and they're not
in those
women.
Caminan
rumbo
to the patruya
yeah
that are there
are some
minutes,
no,
without
what had
to be
going to
say,
if it was
even,
even to
see,
and when
they're
in the
patruia,
something
a
little
to be
a
light,
and in
the
sky,
they're
five
balls
of
the
fire,
they're
They're turning,
they're moving
from uproar above,
and in a moment
subit,
as you know,
they were,
they were in
the mountains.
This,
obviously,
he's still
giving much
fear,
because he
still patruying
in this
municipality,
of Shalatlako.
Wow,
it's that
the balls
of the
is something
that were
our
abelos,
our
viz-avuelos,
and even
in our
times
actuales,
are phenomenal
so
real
that
today for
I can
say
if they're
I'm
I've
have seen
I've
have seen
the evidence
if they're
reales
what I
can't
make
the stories
and legends
of the
clowelpuchis
of these
bruchas
that's
they're
they're
they're
and they
can't
in balls
of fire
no
I know
no
no
I know
but
that
exist
exist. My family
has seen. My mother has
seen. So,
are phenomena that
are in,
I think in
all the world,
or at least in America,
especially in America
Latin, are very
present,
I've had
been an opportunity
to hear various
stories,
to see,
even evidences
of these balls
of the
but particularly
a story
like the
that of him
that is an
authentic
to the RELA,
not me
had talked,
and the
fact is that
me,
me,
I'm impressioned.
I'm going to say what
is the
I feel like
I'm
imagine I'm
imagineate you
you've seen
you know
five
you know
when we're
when I'm
in Hiloxing in Peña
of Lobos
we've seen
one
of the
actually
many people
you know
the clipcito
that's
that's
in the
investigation
complete
is in
the page
web
we're
we're
we've
a one
a
only
and
all
what you
did you
there
there
was
there was
something
something
something
I'm going to son
very meodos
if you
want to be,
because,
not because
me dedic to
this,
I'm superman.
No,
I mean,
I said,
we're a
moment where
he said,
Antonio Samoidu,
go,
let me know,
let me,
let me come from
the only thing
was,
the evidenceia
and let-unus.
Yeah,
I'm kept petrified
because in that
moment you
get to
all the stories
of how these
if something
if something
is bad,
they're
they're
they're
they're
they're
they're in
this moment
if you don't
if you're
you're not,
if not
you're
they can't
control and
can make
you're doing
you're
you're making you
you're
that's easy
or the
better
you can't
get to be
a little
I'm
I'm sorry
I'm saying
I'm
I'm gonna
I'm gonna
I'm
the only
let's
let's for
let me
let's go
we're
we're gonna
we're not
we're
And many
me critiqued
oh,
that's,
oh,
I'm a lot of
that you're
to get to be
that you're
because, no,
no, no,
so the nervous.
The classic
of, yeah,
those I'm here.
Yeah,
I'm going to
see,
those people,
I'm going to
so,
so much,
so you're going to
be able to be
so you're going,
for you're going,
so,
no, but there's
many things more,
so,
your family,
you have to
think many
things before,
so much
exactly,
I'm,
exactly,
the fact,
I'm
I have to go to here.
And,
and I'm sorry, Samudio,
but if you don't
you go to
go to
go to that moment.
Yeah,
no.
Maximu respect to
Samudy.
Yeah.
So,
do you
know, a
really interesting.
The stories
of bruchas
a me,
particularly
really,
particularly,
I'm really
I'd like
to be able to
be able to
give
evidence,
but I don't
see how I
reactionar
one of
that you
see seeing
that you can
say,
I go
this,
no, when
you're
when you're
when you're
when you're
when you're
really,
you're really,
you're just
about the
podcast, how
you know,
I'm going to
do you know,
it's incredible,
it was an
honor
to be a
part of
extraanormal
and to
tell stories
with your
community.
Much of
thanks,
thank you
us,
before you know,
before,
remember to
all the audience,
project
and radio
socials.
Yeah,
sure
that my
project is
Asustam of
Panteon.
We're
We're in
all the
networks in
on all the
platforms of
podcast in
YouTube as
Asustame
Panteon
or Asustame
my
me and I'm
am you
find out of
the media
social as
Ivan Towers
Bhoombe
Perfect.
No,
thank you
very of
heart
the
world.
Thank you
all
all right
not
forgets
before
to get
to give
to give
your
campanita
and
give you
to
pass to
to
to be
to
get to
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There you know, my name is Pacorias, and
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we're
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he
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rosarios
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where
of him,
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satanical.
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that's
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more fervest
not they
doves.
No,
they are
in bosques
or in
cemeterios.
It's
in
churches.
In the
forum,
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do you
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