EXTRA ANORMAL - No estaba loco estaba POSEÍDO | Relatos siniestras de MANICOMIOS
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See that there are
where the mind
and something else
enter in their
place.
The hospitales
psychiatrics
were constructed
to encerra
the dolor,
the fear,
and in occasions
the locura.
But there
are people
that there's
not only
there are
patients,
but grits,
presences,
and things
that nobody
can't
explain.
Passillos
where
once
can't
listen
in the
madrugated,
puertas
that
are open
solas
and
sombras
that
not pertain to
no person
Biva.
This night
you'll
hear of
histories of
hospitals and
so you
invite to
you put you
because
very sure
today,
today,
you know,
you're not
don't know.
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family,
are welcome
to a
one chapter
more of
podcast
Extraanormal.
My
number is
Paco Arias
and I
feel
to be
not
in a
chapter
for
all of
you
family,
let us
we're
a much
let
that terra.
About
to hospitals
psychiatric,
those
places where
the people
in more
to cause
some kind of
to cause
some type
of
fear,
and over
all the
context that
is around
the hospital
of the
hospitals
because
for some
people
are some
situations
where the
logic
let's
not have
any
any
explanation.
To
to talk
to these
things
me
a
person
very
special
that all of you
know and that
we really
us honor much
with your presence
here in our
studios.
Our great Jesus
of Nazareth.
How is your
brother?
Very good.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thanks for
accept the invitation.
I know
that much
people you have
seen in this podcast
and in other
canals,
you know,
some stories
very asombroses.
But for
the people
that's
coming for
first time,
my
would be
that,
I'd
presentes, who you're
to you're at what you're
doing you're
social?
Well, I'm
Nazareth Martinez.
I'm also
creator of
content of
a problem
paranormal,
mystery,
even occultism
and my
channel is
my channel is
my
podcast.
We can
find in
all the
platforms and
me can
find out of
Marit
Martinez
in the
personales
on the
Facebook and
Instagram.
Thank
thank you
what you
think you
about the
time that
we're
about this
night
hospitals
psychiatric
I know
that evidently
and I do
also with
much respect
for the
people who
in a lot of
people who
have been
in the
places
are in
these places
where they
do you
do they
do they're
and they
help
in the
mental
in the
things of
health
but
I'm
this is one
of the
places
where
it's
where it
is a
talk about
and it
has to me
total sense
Paco for
I'm
with the things
medical
but
hospitalaries.
So,
to me
took to
visit some
centers
psychiatricks
where
you know
all the
class of
patients.
So,
what I
can mention
is that
is that
there are
many
situations
paranormal
but
also,
but also
have to
take
in
account
there.
There
a
very
very
very
little
line
between
the
medical
between
the
health
and
the
and the
other
many
of
the
in the
healths,
we can
give that
indice
that many
could be
not over
events
paranormal.
But also
there are
some other
situations that
if you
don't are
paranormal,
are really
really aterrador
for the
level of
the actions
that are
sombrious,
we're
saying.
Exactly.
And
so,
and so
because
there are
cases,
even
led to
the things
of the
things of
possession
demoniac
that
can
get to
live
there.
And I
want to
do this.
We've
guarded stories
that not
are going to
start in this
capitual.
If you
would be in
your place
where you're
going to
we're not
only the
stories more
more
the stories
without
censura
that you're
going to
find in
another
other
other
website.
I'm
you know
to go
you
put you
your
podcast
extraanormal
.com
.
M.
there
you
I'm
I'm going to
talk about
a story
and I
want to
ask you
want to
you
know you
know
that exist
in Mexico
one of the
hospitals
psychiatricos
for
say
more
sinister
in the
history
and this
I don't
know
and me
it's
a child
an
man who
he's
a
old old
I'm
under
this
history
so far
this story
so
This no he occurred,
neither to him,
nor a his
father,
nor a
his abeluel.
He occurred
to his
abeluel.
Imagineate,
a story
that has
many years
and that
this man
of the
father,
the vis-abuel
of Anthony,
he took
to live
to this
experience,
this story,
even the
story,
and the
person,
Lazaro,
he's the
he told to
his
his son,
to the
father,
just the
father,
just to him,
until he
he's,
he
is that he
us
is that
this
history
occurs
between
the
years.
Listen
well,
1936
and
1997
Lacerro,
who is
the
vis-a-
-vuelo
of
Anthony
in
that
he
was
when
he
went
to
work
as
the
manic
general
the
Castan
in
the
city
of
Mexico
and
I
want
to
this
place
was
found
by
Porfio
Dias
in
1
10
to
to give attention
psychiatric,
attention
medical,
to people
that were
people who
had to be
the job.
He was
the help
the doctor
of the
time and
mention that
even the
salary that
he was
a
he was
a better
he
was a
stability,
he
was,
was
it was
also
and to
be
that
time
that
time
he's
that
he
wasn't
that
he was
this
type
of
patients
he
said
well, no
the opportunity
is there,
the money is
there, I
enter.
He says
that in
when he's
to work,
he's got
a little
very sad
in Asaret.
He said
that the
patients,
those patients,
those people
that were
these
people who
were not
were treated
as
as farms.
They were
treated
as torbos.
He mentioned
that existia
a maltratto
systematic
in this
place.
Not
it was only like a person
that exercised violence.
He said that
all the employees,
even the intendant,
that's the intendant,
that was,
maltratable to
the people that
were there.
It said, it was
common, and I want
to citar this,
it was common
to hearings
and quejidens
that nobody
attendia.
The medics,
all they'd
allie,
like they said
and said
that the
patients suffer
castigues disfrasated
of treatment.
Some
people,
medical,
they were
at first the
restriction
extreme of
movement.
For the
words
they put
this famous
camisa
to force
for that
so that
so
they were
they were
they were
they're
they're
to get
to make
to
and they
they're
they're
they're
they
when
they're
when
they're
people
like
very
violent
those they'd have been in tinas with yellow.
He said that all this,
the doctors of that were part of a
treatment psychological.
Really, it was a torture.
He said that he,
to know, he took over it,
but he rumored that there were patients
to those that were applied electroshock.
For those that were,
well, very aggressive.
And for those,
that were totally incontrollable,
they realized
the famous lobotomies
to become those more docile.
What is this process
and so I want to cite?
Because much people say,
what do you say, what does it mean?
The lobotomia is a process
neurochirurgical
that is obsolete
that consisted in
to destroy the fibras
nervosas
of the lopulof frontal
of the cerebrose
and it was
for those
years.
This is what
they'd get to
commit when there
a patient
that's a
plan,
no,
nobody
could tolerate
Lazar.
Lazzar,
the vis-avuel
he had
to be a
he had
and he
caused to
this
thing of
injustice and
he'll
say,
is that I
also
that I'm
feel
that I'm
that you
don't know
I'm not
can't
do anything
but
all for
all
all were
normal
that
he'd
to try
to these
patients.
In
what
moment
enter the
thing
paranormal.
Because
this
place
was of the
psychiatric
most
maldits.
Lazar
said that
he was
in a
guardia
nocturna
in the
pavillion
of the
people
of the
people,
some
people
they said
the
pavilion
of the
imbeciles
so
they
these
people.
This
place
was socio
was
was obscure
and
almost
all the
time
there
were
ratas
and
cuc
there. Nobody,
almost nobody
could be
in this
city because
literally was,
more than
an hospital
was like a
castle,
Nazareth.
As it
like it
put in the
movies,
various
quarters
and in
a person
amarada,
evitando
that's
doing that
all this,
because the
people
were,
they're
auto-se-
-da-an
then,
they have
they're
they're
almost,
and he
said,
and he
said,
the work
there is
pesid-a-
-
You have to
go to
and literally
to somers
to make a
and start
that's in
that you're
about the person
and they're in
he's not
to be there.
Imagineate
what it's
to be sent to
be in
these places.
He was
doing his
recorriety
he was
tommas
door by
and said
that's
strangelyly
everything,
all of
all were
all were
all right
all around
there
There, there,
a person
grittando, no,
all of the
he said,
he said,
he said,
I think I'm
I'm going to
like,
as we're
a coyotito,
no,
a swenito.
He's
he said,
and he said
that when
he was
a point,
he said,
he's just
the eyes,
sent you
an apreton,
a ponson,
and ardor
in the tobill.
Rapid,
he's
he assomomom
and says,
what demonios?
When he
he bolta,
he says
that he's down
that he's
a man
delgado
and he
going to
the passio
with a
camis of
this man
he had
mordid
and he
was going
he was
he was
he was
he's
he's
that the
he's
all the
he's
he quickly
he's
he's
he can't
he
he's
he's
he's
he's
he was
he was
he
was
he
Now this person
It was like if it was
Tohirtar
He said that in that moment
He saw he saw
He said that he had
The eyes very
Disorbitated
So he had
Aubisal in the
Boca of Coeur
What was
He was also
He made
Also he
He saw that
He saw that
He said
Lazzar
He said to
He says
Like this
to cover
To give us
To give us
And that
He said
So it's
Impossible
Hermo
This man
literally,
it's a
He
says that
he said,
he's
a,
when you're
a new
a newver,
a refrigerator,
you know,
you know,
and he says
that this
man continued
going to
get to
a
a
the
and there
simply
disappeared.
Lazzar
no,
he was
he was
to go to
get to
another
zone,
a
he was
to be
his
obligation
to
he,
he
was
he was
man,
of where
he's
how
it's
he's
he's
he's
he
he's
he's
he's
he's
he's
he's
he's
he's
he
he's
he's
he
mentioned
that he
were
going to
the
months
and he
he
he
he's
he
and he
and
going to
because
many
because many
people
were
much
were
much
were
more
in
this
place
so
so
so
that
says
that
in
this
there
there
a
morturio
where
they'd get them to the patients,
well,
that were you
that's
moriian
and he said that
the repent
he had to
the arm
and she was
all this
breast,
right,
all the right
and he'skeated,
because this
woman was
mordy to
move to be
he said,
he said
that when
he got,
he got
to do
know,
he was
he was
he was
he was
he said,
I said,
I was
I said,
I was
I was
he was
the
refrigerators,
these places
where it's
where they
were,
and he
said that
when
he was accommodating to the
woman, the planch
that's there,
he started,
and in that moment
he saw how the
doors of these
refrigerators
began to start
and open,
and he said
that was so the
fear that there
was so he could
avoid to go
when he was
going to the
out of the
he's going to
he's going to
what isarro,
what do you
say?
And you're
what's
what are
things rarous?
When they're
to know
all
they're
normal,
the refries
serrated
but the
the body of
that's
not in the
camera,
he's in the
house.
And he
he's
not you
don't you
probably
sure that
he's
really
that's
always
always
that's
logic,
not
Lacerro
lived
a lot
of things
there
there man
so
so fortis
but what
what was
what he
did
that he
ran
because
if in
a moment
he said
he said
he said
he's
One day,
he said that this
was,
and in the
year in the
year of
37,
he said
he was
looking
a patient
that he
took about
those
medications,
but that
this patient
he had
to be
to be
to be,
then he
was,
and he
was going,
he had
there the
ragas
for that
they were
in a
duch
and he
he was
coming
when
he was
he said
he said
he said
he said he
came
like he
had a
abient
the cubetazzo
and he
he sentio
that he
he went to
his
he was in
he
he took
he tient
his body
his body,
his
his
and he
he was
completely
seco
no
had a
no
there
there
he was
he was
where he
was
where he
was
where he
was
he was
he
he was
he sent him
this
sensation
that he
he came
there
no
no
there
no
there
no
there,
people,
no
there was
nothing, the
soil
was never
the
soil
and then
him to
his family
that's
his body
had the
sense
like if
really
was
he was
what he
was that he
broke
for
completely
because
how is
possible
how is
possible
that my
body
this
sensation
of
that
that someone
to
me,
me,
I'm
got to
a
water.
What
What happened at the final of this story? This
man renunciate, he
mentions, and in his
words that pass on generation in generation,
he says,
Dentro of this
place, inside of this
manicomium, abit
not a thing, abitam a lot of
spirits, phantasmas,
and, over all, says,
they're, they're, they're most
, they're very hostiles,
like, they attack much to the personnel.
So, the family of
Lassar, so Anthony,
his-nietto, and all of
they're just
they're
like a
man
a man
very
a
person
a person
not
would
not a
because
inventing
all
these
stories
and
and so
all
that
families
saw
because
they
they
were
how Lazaro
came
to
every
day
he
had
that
repulson
to
get
to
but
the
necessity
the
man
the
need
to
say
I
know
I
know
all
what
he
took
live
and
that
this
story
I think,
I mean,
I don't
talk to
us out of
us
but
his bidsnietto
us
this story.
Aastante
very
very strong.
It's
to say to
you,
like,
casuality
that of the
places where
they'd
they'd
a lot of
people,
where were
things more
more
more than,
there?
Yeah,
is that
here I'm
not,
it's like
the
authorities,
it's like
the,
actually
in,
Yes.
It's like the authorities
are the pendent
of this class of
places.
Or so,
for the gravity
of the
health of the
things,
of what they
represent them,
then it's
like they're in
those
salas
to observe
how they
they're
how they're
and
obviously
we're talking
of many
cases of
patients
that are
aggressive,
that are
that they're
not have
control
of
they're
that can
they can
do they
can make
many
things
with
other
people
and
for us
restringen.
In fact, in the
actuality,
they call
restriction
forsada.
That is
the term
that's the
term.
that's the
term.
In the
other things
pre-ospitalaries,
it was
I did.
I was
I did
do with
some of
some of
patients.
And,
and before,
to start with
my story,
a person,
with a person,
with a
way,
of my
city.
What's
what you?
Fifate
that is,
I would
be able to
say that
was the
service
most
incomod
that I
have been
in all my
life.
Okay.
Because
I'm talking
to a
person that was
a geriatric,
a person
that was
a little
and at
the same
actually,
it was a
pest.
I was
a pestable
to
a person.
At
the
only that
I'm the
only that I
know
is that
all the
moveles,
the
sillons, the
sills,
the comedor,
the roperer,
the seora
was in
cargoed
to runper it.
The
shillons
did mark
of mordidas.
All
it was
all in the
center of
your,
the
and the
sir, and the
lady
started a
class
of a
pyramid.
And what
me,
me caused
more
intrigue
was that
when I
was all
in the
center,
the
she was
his
own
s,
it's,
and they
put in the
point of
these things,
and I'd
the Christos,
they put in
the revest,
and also
it was
the cereza
of the pastel?
Something like.
No man.
Something.
And the
only way
to convince
to this
woman to
get to
the ambulance
because I
not the
could be
restringer.
It was
like a
kind of a
suborno
with a
oh yeah
this
this woman,
this is
this
when I'm
Translad to Paco,
were
almost three
hours of
a
time.
Oh,
no
I'm
put to restring
and he
urin-of-
for
all the
parts,
me
and it
and when
we got to
the hospital
not they
were
because the
she was
very great
and they
knew what
implicable
that the
she could
be
so.
So,
you can
say
that's
very
complicated
and
there are
many
cases
that
are
a
way
of a
And toerra Deterrader, is this story that I'm going to
share in the area of Puebla, in a
little town of this area, we're talking,
a story, a person that was in the hospital of San
and Polito, that there's this story.
For me, it has said that no
there's many testimonies of this type.
The only testimonies that can
be able to, Paco, are the personal,
Yeah,
the limpeaes,
workers,
workers,
and carers,
and guards,
and guards,
justly.
Because,
all the testimonies
are hermeticos.
They're
are quite
private.
No is like
that's something
and immediately
all the
people know
they know.
Because not
is something
common.
It's something
that's a
door-cerned.
For that
reason,
so
in
many
things
as
about
about the
people
even I
think
to mention
that
abuses
that I'm
more
more
more
more
and in
this
case,
in this
case,
in the
story
of
Maria
N
the
part
specifically
a
new
this
hospital
of
San
ipol
and
he
starts
a
story
about
a
patient
that
pertene
to
this
this
this
this
was a
was a
,
he had a
very normal
and for
the years
that were,
not very
very much
that the
women
not used to
they were
in the
house.
But this
child had
a peculiarity
had a
different
and he
mentioned,
I'm,
I suspect
that this
child had
passed
for a
class
of an
abuse.
Because
without
having
nobio,
without
absolutely
nothing,
result that
that's
that's
that's
the same
so that's
so that
they're in
that's
what's the
much that's
sure that
was a peccable
was a
adult or not
things of
the time
so things of
then so
they're in
that situation
that she
was in barasas
lamentable
with the
time
no,
no, not
it's
many months
three,
four
months and
falle's the
father of
this chica
So this
Chica
just she was
He was
to attender
to his father
and a one
of his
brothers
that was
when he was
she was
she was
she was
to prepare
to come
to attend
some
other
to the
business
that came
to mention
the
the
business
that was
the
company
when
they had
she
was
she was
she
was
she
was
a
event
a
very
atros
that
is
where
He fellece his papa
for causes natural.
Falleces
like was the detonate
of a series
of events
that's important.
The brother,
as a more
little,
one of the
the two-tios
of this chick,
he said,
you know,
I'm going to
get to
your brother,
but not
I'm going to
take to
me, because I'm
going to be
a woman
embarrassed in my
house.
Then,
they're just they
have abandoned
to
When they'd
abandoning,
this chick,
all,
all,
they were,
the testimony
that could
recabar
this
was a
woman,
was a
little
a little
a lot of
that's
when he's
to have
some
difficulties
economic
the only
that he
was to
start to
start to
get
things
to the
things of
his
but
but
in a
occasion
a person
a person
and
he
he comes
to say
that had the solution to the problems
that she affrontable,
that was the soledity,
that was the signaraments
of the persons,
etc.
And she acced to
to go to this
class of treatment.
After that
that,
to me,
that my
waser,
they were a
series of
rituals,
when he goes to
the other
the people
are to
get to
that she
are a series
of
things
that's
quite
strange in
the
house.
The
the
Yes,
we're
doing
that's
much
a lot of
we're doing.
We're
we're in
the
things
we're not
like she
was doing
things,
like if she
was using
a
thing that
if it's
doing
things,
connecting
machines,
and
that after
that after
after some
of those
of those
of those
so
aretan,
and they're
doing this
this
man,
in the
madugated,
they're
they're
they're
they found out of
that she
was
a lot of
the
car.
And in the part
of her
stomach,
he had a
series of
symbols
painted with
a
thing,
he's
what you're
doing,
a man,
and they
get to the
force.
And,
and
that's,
like the
scene
that I
told me
of my
story,
that the
she had
all the
cumul of
things,
that's
me
really
much the
attention,
this
she had
the
had the
things,
and the
pertinence,
and
their
father,
and in the
walls,
with
all the
same
that's
about the
way to
things.
For the
times,
and all
not
to have
no,
to
absolutely
nobody,
they
they've
to
that
San
Hipolito.
According
in the
history,
this
man,
he mentioned,
in
those
times,
if
was,
if it
had been
a
policeia.
So it's like
to get a person
to medical
and you
revisable
and then
you know
no no
yeah
he'd
get to the
and he
he'd
and he
never
they'd
not so
then so
when
when he got
the hospital
the
first
testimonies
of the
people
that they're
that said
ah
is a person
uh is
a person
with
indicies of
x
a infirmad
mental
but that
what
they said
of this
muchcha
was the
that was the
that's the
that's the
that's the
that's the
but I
say to a
form a
terrorator.
So,
I'll repeat
not they
revised.
La pass
to this
hospital.
I don't
know how
function
that they
are that
they're in
a
space
but
but at
apparently
they're
they're
just a
long
when they
they
had
been
when they
had
This woman is so
a lot
for a
fact a tross
that
was a
true of this
I heard like that
he
pegged
his
his,
his
his
a stup
something,
I know
I'm
in this
kind of
that's a
kind of
when
he's
about,
he did
know
that it
was a
liquid
vital and
and see
the
procedency
when
observe
with
more attention
he
does
know
that
the
that was
that was
practically
trying
all
this
liquid
from
of her
part
intimate
was this
muchach
as a
much she
did it
this
woman
she gave
some
little
she went
in the
camera
he
commens
to
start
the product
she
she
little
piece
a
pedas
no
manches
that
when
when
of
doing
it,
no
it's
no
it's
not
it's
not
aterrador,
but that
the scene
that's
that's
the person
that were
around
of her
that
were
they were
so
that were
that
were
that were
that
were
that
were
in a
corner
the
part
more
aterterator
or the
part
that I
do
I
I mean, it's something inaudit,
I don't know how mention it.
When, for fin,
she knew that she had
terminated with,
with this product,
could I mean,
to say.
She was in a lot
aterrador.
And,
and I said,
no me
I'm quake.
This no
had to be
inside of me.
This had
the culpa.
The fault of
what?
No,
know
so
that's the
story
so
it's
the history
so
some
of you
say this
is impossible
to
a moment
a moment
no
no
I'm
not I
don't
I'm
sure
or in
another
other
center
psychiatric
of the
city
of
me
but
there
there
was a
very
similar
is a
and
very,
and there
videos
Paco,
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videos
where a
woman
I don't
know how
did you
but
they were
to be
a
person to
get to
and start
to
a
woman
that was
abrasated
and
was
like a
person
normal
a person
a person
quite
coherent
that
that's
that's
that
I'm smiling and like mecied something.
And just
I just hear you.
Why did you?
And said,
well, because I had to
do it?
Yeah, normal.
So, so,
so, so.
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what you did?
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No invent.
That's real.
If we're going to put it here
for that. Yeah, but there's
some data, some data
that's going to pass.
But me me a lot
is the attention
of this
story
because
for me
has been
much
sense
many of
the people
that are
there
there's a
little
line
between the
psychiatric
the
paranormal
the
the
the
and the
the
aterrador
in
any
that
yeah
that
or the
real
that is
like I
know
I
don't
you
know
you
know
you
aterer
to
a
point
of
so
so
So in this case, I think the cumul of the two things,
a person that is a patient psychiatric,
or a person who has a deficiency mental,
not is apt to enter into these things.
No, it is.
Because, Paco, there are many people
that, since even know that they're in a formidad psychiatric,
result of that they're entran to chamanism.
So they're
to do you.
To enter into a
ritual, to
Paloma Jome,
a creencers
with the
Santa
Morte,
and they're
to make
ideas with
those that
they're doing
this type of
things.
No,
and we've
seen cases
where
in religions
conventional
as Catholicism,
Christianity,
and so in
these religions
vallier than
more
all the
case of
things,
pass on
this type
of things.
It's the
case of
the woman,
and here
me
to have to
censurar
that he
he's sacoed the eyes
to his
his little
because he said
he said,
he took a
literal
the more
it's not
about the
way to get
completely to
the inferno
so,
for the
supposed,
that are
people,
are bad.
Fiatte,
me,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm a lot of
people,
the group
deletive
because I
say,
I'm here
a man,
I'm here,
I'm here
an person,
who was
a couple
of the
penal of
Topochico,
8,000
say,
here,
he
recommended
much that
interview.
He
was there
in this
penal.
He perteneas
to the
group of
the Cetas
and
mentioned that
there was
an occasion
where in
this penal
there was
like a
motin
because,
I mean,
so,
ante the
government
was like
a motin.
What
happened
was that
was that
went to
and
were a
trancasos
and
if there
were
a
lot
of people
who
said,
that
when
they
were
were, like, the
zone,
I mean,
after the
end up
all the
lot of the
lot of people,
of all the
people who
got a bit
fieleteed
there,
and then
was every
one was in
his cell,
and they
were looking
how the
guards,
they were
and then,
and that's
like,
and that's
a la
psychiatric,
he's
a lot,
and I'm
to know
because many
know,
because it
has been
in the
book of
much
people.
he said
the Cigis
and a
cabron
I'll
describe to
a rapid
a Michael
Myers
of the
movie
this
of the
movie
a guy
a lot
fornido
but
that really
was very
bad
of those
faculties
so
that
so
that
so
a
time
that
he was
this
he's
he said
he
said when
he said
when he
the
jefe of the
Zetas
imagine
Manate,
the
hefe.
He was
he had a
he said to the
people,
that he was
that he was
that he
put a four,
five,
six cabrones
of almost two
meters,
and even
these people
who were
those
sicarious,
also he
had a
fear.
Well,
well,
so,
so,
what,
he said,
and the
guy, the
he, the
he,
the gulfs,
not he,
so how many
times
not he
did he
did he
Or, this cabron,
between 10 cabrownes,
between 10 guards,
or whatever
so,
only so they're,
and more or less
to submit.
So the leader
of this group,
was he was a
lot of fear.
And he said,
that was that
that was all
the people,
it's a
get to the
penal and
he said that
he goes with
some tigueras.
Well,
imagineate,
what fear
not to
have someone
to be
a object
punso-corstant
and he
said that
this bat
It was a little
Navidad
and he
he'll
he said
he's
he's
to look at the
the
little
the eyes
labios
parts
and he says
that the
eyes of the
those
who were
in that
penal
he's
a collar
interl
laso
origitas
labios
and so
he was
a
he was
so he
had been
he said a
head
the
he said
he said
he said
this cabron
of here
because he
had a
monot
of
a lot of
a lot of
a
man who
people who
people who
suburb
people who
have been
that they
had a
lot of respect
and they're
that they're
in their
five
sentions
and the
word
that said
at a
old old
he was
to be able to
and he
was going to
passable
and he
said he
said he's
a coffeecett
a coffee-st
you're
a great-
thank you
I'd say
I'd
say you
took a
your
coffee-sito
with your
when when
was like
in his
five
sentries,
but
that was a
man who
was a
man who
he had a
man,
he said,
he was
being
he was
transformed.
See,
I'm,
I want,
this other
story,
and this
is very
special,
bro,
because
me
he's
just a
medical
psychiatrist
that just
that story
I
named
testimony.
This
occurred in
the year
2002
in
a
state here
the
Republic
where
much
people
where much
and
that he was
now
so he
and he
did not
to do that
his creency
and the
actually,
to imagine
to you know,
how many of
years,
he's the
only that is the
only that
me convince
that this
really is
that he
does the
program.
He said
in the
year 2002
he
went to
a patient
and here
he
came to
the
name
the
Stephanie
Mendes
a
a child,
a child,
he said
that she
Ingress with
chemadures
of second
grade in
both
arms.
Exactly the
part of the
antebrass.
Mentiona
that,
talking with
her mom,
that,
this chica
had a
woman
a gemela,
the other
little,
she said,
she,
she,
and they
start to
talk to
what is
what was
what had
detonated
these
chemadurs.
They
they're
to tell
to this
medical
that
all
so it
when this
she
this
the name of Stefania,
he started a
feeling a
very persistent
like of
ormiggies,
like if
many ormigas
were coming
in the
armus.
And she said
that these
ormigas
they were
they'd
constantly.
At the
initial,
it said,
I said,
I was a
ormigue
in the
quayal,
in the
back,
and he
appeared in
the
morning these
piquettes
like if
really if
they were
they were
putting
but
nobody
saw,
none.
So,
no
there
but she said that in the nights
started to pick her
how her body
was full of
and her mom
and she said
a little bit
because he said
she was a
time she was
she was getting
the time
and when
when when
she went to
her
he gave the
the
oldor
to make sure
and she
said she
he said
funny
and he
he called
to the
other
this
herman
that's
she named
honey
and
nobody
he said
he went
to the
the kitchen, and imagine this
scene, brother.
He says that when
he goes to the
kitchen, be
a his
his wife with
the two
arms on the
stove on the
stove, with
the fire
oncending,
there.
And the
she's, obviously
explota in
a shock,
in surprise.
And,
what you
get a
to be?
Apagrae
so,
there's the
car.
And the
chick,
strangely,
not
was feeling
a
in that moment
they're
a an
ambulance and
they're
to get a
hospital
where they
they're
they're
to do this
treatment
and to
see what
what's
what's
what's
something.
She said
she's
a lot
at the
hours.
He started
to get
to
the
then after
after
and you
not he
was
not over
but
was it
like
for
some
his
body
no
no
reaction
and
here
was
the most
strange.
And this
medical
me
he said,
Paco,
when I
asked in
urgencies,
what is
what I
had done?
She was
she was
not remember
so that
I'm going to
my time.
So,
her name,
he said,
Doctor,
is that for
the nights,
my
mother,
I said,
doorming at
those
in the
the same
quarter,
imagine
a
camera and
another to
one of the
one of the
and he's
she's a
little,
and he
starts
to be in
someone.
The doctor
said,
those things
not going
with me.
Your
mother has
a problem
mental,
here we
will be
to cure.
Not you
spant.
No, it's
not of phantamas
and those
things.
So, then
in that
moment
they started
to submit
to their
treatment with
medications
antipsychotic
and
all this,
also.
Also, she
participated
in therapies, in this case, occupational,
and in these therapies,
she was put to draw her.
Stephanie,
he was to put in to draw.
Here,
strangely, the drawings were
very rarous,
her man.
This chick of 21 years
had a
different different
where I'd
a woman
accosted over
a pentagrama.
And there was
another woman
in a
corner
like observing to
the one
that was
and said,
I said,
her,
those
different,
what are
what do you
mean?
And he
said that
only,
like,
like he
was on the
smile,
and I'm
doing,
and I'm
saying,
tell me,
what are
what they
are the
people?
And she
said,
that,
signaling to
that was
on the
pentagrama,
that
is I
and the
other
woman,
and he
he said,
for what
you know
you know
you,
only I
can be
only I
can't,
So, how
that only
you can
see
and how
why you
do you
do you?
It's what
all the
time I
see.
And that
type of
things,
this type
of the
people,
they're
to in
comoders,
a
person who
started
to know,
and
they're
they're
they're
they're
they're
they
they're
they're
they
more of the
spiritual
and
said that
there was
there
this chick present about these attacks,
where, imagine,
we're sitting,
and, of course,
he was to be able to
rasked with a
force to the
arms, that she
had made,
cause,
heris,
with his in
his in-
and he said,
he noticed that
every time that
his family,
like, he was
to visit,
she had these
brotes psychotic.
So,
like,
restigured a
family,
they were,
they were,
and they were,
and they're,
and it
that in
an
occasion
happened
something
also
very
very.
He said
this
medical
that in
a
occasion
she's
she
was in the
room,
she was
in this
position
with the
arms
so that
he said
he said
Fannie
what you
have you
have you
got
the
and he
said
no
yeah
they're
not,
you're
there
are
other
insects
how
and he
he
he
He started
that for the nights
these insects
were in
some of the
brother and you're not
in the arms,
they were in
all the
body.
So there
moments where this
chick,
she was to
start and to
cause hered
in all,
in the car,
the braos,
the piernas,
over all,
in his zone
intimate.
And she
had to be
all the time
said.
This media.
that was a case
very strange
and they're
studying studying
to know
what is
what had
detonated all
this,
interviewer
to the family
and they're
to have the
people,
but here
you know,
this medical
says that
an
person said that
was a
commillero
started
also to
also,
a patient
that said
that not
I'm
to be
because he
had a
fear of
and
he said
all the
everybody
I'm
said,
but for
this
medical
that was
that
all,
as they're
people,
well,
they're afraid.
And for
this medic,
nothing of
this is real.
Until
that happened
something
that broke
all the
logical.
He said
that this
came to
detonar
in a
moment
when she
was
dormied,
he was
to guardia
and this
chick
was out
from the
car
rascando
other
once,
and
he was
for all
the
side,
it's
almost
and she
is a
little,
and then
that's
that you
know,
that's
they're
all,
to get to
to get us
to say,
calmate,
they're
they're
to say,
and they
said,
this
medical,
that's
where he
saw,
he's
like this
this movement
and says,
there was
where I
saw,
I think,
like,
how something
was,
of his
coo
like if
were literally
an insect
coming down
from the
blood of the
skin of the
question.
It's a
see, he
I've
two
two companions
more and
they're
looking to
you're
quickly.
The response
logic and
you say
spasmos
she's
in a
state
very tense
blah blah
blah
blah
so like
like
so
they're
spasmos
musculars
no
is not
it's
not
not you
not
you're
they're
they're
they
when
when
here
here
here
comes
of the
lagrimal
the right
he said
Paco this
no
I'm
this I'm
know this
they're
going to
like patita
like
of a
catita
like a
little
a cucarach
chiquita
of these
that's
that's
that
they're
the
well
hebe
he
got he
fell in the
savanna
he said
I
think that
this
was like
a
kind
of
an
miso
my
for the
cancer
for
the
time
no
after
Salen two more
and it's
the people,
all those
who are in the
people who are
they're in
there's not
I'm not
how you're
how you
have you
have you
have said
how you're
you're saying
that they're
getting insectos
of the
the legrimals
after
after the
fosas
nasales
that's
that no
has no
there
no has
no
explanation
in this
moment
the
only that
was
said to
let's
they're
they're
they
explained
to the
and at the day
next
they're
their
he said
he's
Paco
has been
the only
time
the only
that I
don't
encounter
explanation
to
a
thing
to
say that
they
they're
to
the
morning
still
she
was
she
she
she
she's
she
she's
she
she
she went
with her
her
family
she
came
the
and it's
me
Acerca.
Here
here,
brother,
something
that does
a
thing to
what I've
said.
Janie
he said,
Doctor,
the doctor,
the
of my
mother
not is
a
thing.
Why?
It's
that I
know what I
know what I
can't
say,
because
me
he made
to make
he's
he was
he was
he
was a
thing
of a
something
something
had
submitted
she
said,
no,
well
all
what
you
do
to help her to cure her.
What's what
is that
I'm going to
my
brother.
We've been
together
we've been
been used
unied.
I'm
I'm going to
visit to a
broho.
And he
said,
aha, okay.
What
is that my
brother
she was
she enameled
to her
her
and she
he's,
and her
best
her
rechased her
the
he said.
No,
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
a
woman,
but
no
that
manner.
My
my
mother
went
very
dulled
and went
to visit
a person
for
to do you
do you
do you
do you
say I'm
I'm going
I'm
the doctor
like the doctor
like
the doctor
he's a
doctor let's
a lot of
he did a
he robber
because the
other like
never was
nothing
no no
no no
there's
my
my brother was with another person,
because he entered in pleading with
this pseudo-bruch, the first,
and no he wanted to regal
the inner-brano, and he said that
he got to what this chick
had been aure-of-a-oh-oh.
All of herdo.
And he was with other broo,
and he said,
what, destroy the brook
that me stafo?
Destroyed it.
Since that she
said, she'd
that they'd
were to destroyeran,
in the comia charlatan
and said,
Doctor,
was where
my
woman
with the
thing of
not dormer
because
he was
all the
night's
I said
I was,
I'm
all right
to do you
see how he
was to
that he
was going to
that he
was going
I said
I don't
I don't
know
to respond
I don't
I don't
think in
nothing
of this
but
that case
is the
only
that I
made
to me me
made
to do all
the
all the
years
of
career professional is
the only
that I've
made to
doubt that
that's
what you're
what you
think you're
very good
good story
no manches
that's
that's
so far
yeah
yeah
yeah
I'm
a invite
that
was a
a psychologist
that I'm
a man
a salud
andres
is of the
same
type of
okay
is an
excellent
psychologist
and
apart he
does
therapy
of
hypnosis
but
a
he
he's
something
something
similar
where
as a
story,
they're
the question
of the
logic
with all the
thing that
he said,
because he
mentioned about
in the
therapy
where he
was doing
he was doing
we're doing
that we're
in an
environment,
you're
you're
doing the
therapy
and when
you're
in the
hypnosis
this
person
starts
to
retorsors
and
it's
normal
no
it's
part of
the therapy.
It's a person
affected mentally.
But that
starts a
down the temperature.
How you control
that's this?
How do you
do?
It's a
bad to
get the temperature,
the quadros,
the Christos,
all gets to
get.
And,
and over
what he
did a
fear,
you know,
you know,
you know,
you know,
I'm not
in these
things,
that have
with supposed
possessions,
brugeries,
et cetera.
But there was where he started
because this person
he started to say,
desaste of that you
in your cajone,
tiral.
I don't know
I'm going to go.
So, I was
the doctor?
To the psychologist.
Oh,
pardon, the psychologist.
And with a voice
like very different
as if it was a
man.
And I said,
well,
I'm there.
Revised,
and it was a Bible.
Bess,
sir, man.
Serrata with canded
a card.
No,
had
form
to
know.
No,
I don't
know
to know.
So,
so it's
a little
so much,
oh,
manches,
so there
says that
he said,
he's
that's
the person
to the person
to the
person to
another.
Yeah,
so,
is what
this
medical,
he said,
is that
they're
on the
question,
I don't
know,
no,
I don't
know,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
so,
that's a
part,
that's
that's
person is
septica
is
a
person,
it's
when it
when it's
fragmented
that's
that's
value?
Because
yeah,
even after
the years
no it
will forget
that you
did get to
that you
completely
let me
the door
to other
new.
Yeah,
fiatte
Paco,
yeah
to
continue
with these
stories,
I'm
to share
a
story
that I
know
a person
yeah
great
of age
and
you know
this
story
was
a lot
was a
very, very
dolorous
because
I want to the actuality
much to my brother.
Okay.
I mean, I'm going to
in the heart.
Well,
well,
in this story,
in what you
know,
that's the
thing,
and I,
and I,
and I,
most it's,
the title.
The eyes
of the
desert.
Okay.
It's a
good,
good,
the title.
This person
mentioned,
you know,
I'm,
you know,
I always
I've always
I've been a
family
and a
very
very
all the
family
perteneientes
to
Catholicism
we're
very
very
but
we're
we're
a problem
my
brother
was
got
almost
for 10
years
so
I
remember
that when
I was
when I
was
a certain
type
of
attitudes
and my
mom
and my
my mom and my
my
borsors
justificabot,
saying that
he had a
don.
He said,
no,
no, no
you know,
you don't
you're
because he
only know
what he
does he
does he.
So they're
what is the
don?
Who is the
don't?
But what
was what
was
what was
this person
that was
his
brother,
suppuctor
he was
a
person
invisible.
Amid
Imaginario.
Like
a class
of
a
person
in the
clavo.
The
the testimony
by
part of the
parents
of this
person that
was a
person that's
a little
was that
this class
of platics
with this
being invisible
with this
friend
imaginary
so they
they're
they're
something
and something
something
something
we're
we're
we're
in the
area of
those parts there
there are
many
there
so
they're
arigo
to
this
type
of persons
they said,
this
has done
chaman.
For that
reason,
never
they've
never
incited the
question
medical or
something
or something
spiritual.
So,
so it
so.
And this
he's a
time and he
starts to
make the
parents
had a
little
something
that they
loved
much
to be
,
battles folkloricos,
and to festivals, etc.
And also to us
not really
I'm a draggered
to the dance folkloric.
I mean,
I guess much too.
Okay.
So,
mention a,
there was a
lot very interesting
that me
is really relevant
for this story.
The ballet
folklorical
favorite of my
brother is a
balle
where they're
people with
a class of
venado in the
head and tapados of the
eyes.
His favorite.
He had
the headas
of venado,
had
panos,
had the
vestimentas,
I had
all.
And I
said
something,
I'll
will get
the
eyes of
the venado.
I'm
to find
the
eyes of
the
venado.
Those
me
they
1970,
it was a
question of
a question of
a question of
a car
or things
for the
style.
This is
his brother
for those
times,
he's a
certain of
a series of
attitudes
that my
point of
view of
not are
natural.
For more
that it's
a animal
casted,
that's
for a
animal, because
after
to cast a
animal,
yeah
a libe
no see
also,
a little
a
chabal
or
something,
the
that the first that was the first
was the first
to get her
to get the
eyes,
to be if these
are these
with these
we can't
so when
when I said
that the
question of the
chamanism,
something to
have to
and it's
he was
doing, and it
what I
thought really
really
that was really
that was
this much
that's a terrible, that you can't be a
little bit of a
occasion,
is that in a certain
area of your
house, that was a
house a
very, and
observe to
his brother,
that was
he said,
he said,
it was doing
something,
something,
and the indivable
of indomely
in an
corner.
So,
when he
came and he
he said,
he said,
he had a
movement,
but he
was made
he was
a completeito
with his
a lot
upuester,
but
it was like
someone
from the
other
side,
I'm going
to be able
to be
doing the
other side,
he was doing
things to
he and he
he said,
and sincerely
I don't
understand in
that moment
with my
eyes
of the
little
I'm not
he was
that was
and that
he was
he's
he
and he
said,
go to
get to
because
no
he
doesn't
that
you
know,
So, then this
He's quite
a lot of
and he's got
like the
story that
I mentioned
a rato
was a
manito,
how you
are you
and him
himat
we're going to
buy a
thing,
but when
you came about
this
type of
things
the event
cuspide
that
me
was really
really
aterrower
and that
even
me enchina
the
is a
a
testimony
a
question of
this
man that was
the cause
of their
brother.
I said,
you know,
there was
a moment
in that my
papas
also
didn't
get to
school
Julian.
So when
we were
in the
house,
I came
to mention
that we
were five
men,
my
brother,
just
before
to come
to come
to come
us,
the, of
the
animals
that
they'd
they'd
they'd
they'd
we'd
and we
my mom
has made
to do that
all the
things
in one
my
person, my
mother's
my mom,
oh yeah,
let me
help me
to do
my
I'm
I'm
to do
and
the
mom
and you
do you
do
do you
do
your
care
of the
food
the
the
person
very
very
my son
oh my
my
my
son
oh
my
my
he's
to
be
with
What we surprise?
When he goes to be
the food
in a
supposed
soias
like of
the barro,
when
the soias
all they
are all
they're all
they're
full of
eyes
of all
type of
animals
of
all the
types of
animals
for
those
you know
many of
those
their own
their
their
own
and
Gallinas,
connees,
vacas.
So,
it was the
the olor,
the
odor,
Paco,
a o'gos
co-edos
really askeros.
So when
they're all
this,
this man,
as the
first thing is
to push
to get
to
back,
to be
so
aterrados
that they
were.
And when
they're
back,
the
the papas
there
are,
to be,
this is,
yeah,
I supered
the limit
of what
it's a
shamanic.
Yeah,
no is normal.
And this
manchew
mentioned,
that's not
the
poor.
That's
not the
worst.
When we
we
wanted we
did the
area,
where we
we were
we were
we're
we're
we
we're
we
all the
animals
accumulated
accumulated
without
just
at
the
rancho. There were
accumulated.
So, other
a bit of,
like...
Like,
they're in
this fetish.
No, no,
no, no
I see.
Raro.
But there
were all
all,
they're all
those animals
and they're
in the
history.
That's the
part that
is the part that
really
really aterradora,
the
eyes of the
desert.
This mention
that he
he's
to get
now now
to get
to consults
medics.
They're
to
the conclusion
that he had
a syndrome
mental,
so,
schizophrenia,
double personality,
something for the
style.
But when
they were
at a point
to take the
decision,
of if
to get it
to get to
this center
in the north,
so it's called
this center,
where
there's something
that's
something that
unfortunately
not he took
to see this
man,
But that his
papas,
this
because they've
evicted
this trauma
these
people.
Resulted
that in
one
when you
have been
made
made
have been
the
the mom
had said
that's
the
she, the
father,
he said,
they're
to get
to the
house,
this
yeah
was in
that's
but when
when
they're
to the
house
they,
they're
there's
there
there's
there
and that
the
abitation
and
when
they're
mention this
muchucho
they
they're
they're
they're
with the
hands
so
so
but
no
they've
observed
the car
when
they
when they
are the
windows
for
that
the
light
the
sun
he
he
he
he
he
he
he
and
he
don't
manches
when
when
they
when
they
this
this
this
chico
mentioned
that
the
The only
that
could
do
the
Papa
was
to get
from the
wife
and they
had to
call
to the
authorities
competent
for
that they
would
to
get a
Julian
to
this
hospital
at
the
North.
A
me
me
really
to
this
situation
Paco
again
we're
we're
in a
limit
if
if you
are
if you're
having
a
type of
apparition
that
the
amygian, that all these situations
that, we'd say
are normal in the
children, what could you
could be said if no
it is?
And you're saying
to you're saying to
that you're going.
So, about it
you're just to
grow.
Totally.
That's the
word.
You're just
doing it.
I think
can get to
levels where
so cedeen
atrocities.
Much
times, I
know, I
know, I
know, I said
that you
you have you talked of this case.
And, of the fact,
I think we
went to see we're
to go to
get to
get to come to
Cuyah.
Yes.
For
so what
what's the
case of this
young.
She,
she had a
situation that
had to be
with a
a new
mental,
but
as he
had no
control of
absolutely
nothing
and
and it
did a
real
questions
of
creence,
religion,
fanatism,
and even
some other
things
that's
so it's
a event
atro.
Fidate
that is
curious because
there's
and this
I've said
about this,
I've said
to make
the goal.
We're not
a
person,
obviously,
material and
also
spirit,
we're the
side spiritual.
So,
those
people who
have some
that are
people who
have done
a check
a thing
spiritual,
well,
so,
first is the
first,
first,
to the
medical,
that you
attend,
that checken,
that they're
and then
after you
know,
we're going
we're
we're in,
we're doing,
but the
people, in
the majority
it's the
way, and
what happens,
there are
and then
the other
other side.
If not
you know,
you know,
you,
you know,
you're,
you're
that this
still,
and it
still being
getting
a little
something
that's a
question,
no,
of the
Sheenna of Kereto
that,
for sure,
he's
out of the
carcel.
A little
if he'll
go to
see the
video.
I'm doing.
I'm not.
I'm
yeah.
Yeah,
I'm
I'm going to
tell this
ultimate
story.
A
B'er,
Nazareth.
You,
you get
to believe,
man,
that in the
psychiatricks
can exist
entities
spirituales?
Sure.
This
story is
the
spectrum of
the psychiatric
and not
does
a person
that
more
to share
to
brothers,
her story
has been
the
heart
and a
moment
of much
vulnerability
for her.
She's
called
Diana.
And this
occurred
when she
had
about
15
years in
the
year.
She is
of Spain.
She
was in
a hospital
in
Sevilla.
In
this
place,
in
Spain,
in a
hospital
psychiatric.
What
what?
She
said,
she
entered
in
a time
very
bad of
depression.
For
some
extra reason
she said
I was
I was
a sensation
of an
insufficiency
rechasada
renegada
this
she would
not could
not
could be
to come
and say
no it's
that my
family
me
my mother
me
my mother
and my
father says
that in
I'm in
depression and
I'm
a depression.
It's a
So she
Well, she
Well,
like no
I don't
like no,
like no,
like,
to express to
his parents
and simply
was to
medicare's
and things
and all this.
There was
a moment
evidently
where if
not presas
attention to
something,
then it
says that
one night
she
took the
decision when
he had
only
15
years
to
have
to
have
unfortunately
brother
the
method
that he
occupied
he did
all and
evidently
so he survived
but
was for the
hospital
there's
there's
parents
and there
was a
well,
she had
a problem
serious
of depression
in that
they were
in a
place where
was
being to
be a
checked by
people
professional
she
she not
she
had this
idea
of that
there are
there
are the
there
are
there
simply
I don't
want
I don't
want to
live
all. And his
pap says, no,
you know,
you know,
you're going to
help.
No, it's
a little
for a person
for people
simply that
have problems.
And they
started to
explain to
she'd
get back.
They'd
get these information
of the
psychiatical
manicomios,
I said,
I don't want
to be there.
You know,
the classic
with the
camisa of
a force
in a camera
in a
camera of
these blackas, no?
And no,
for his
surprise,
he said
that when
when
when he
was not
the
The room where she was,
was a limpia,
the person was amable.
Or,
yeah,
not was the idea
that she had
of the classic
psychiatric or manicomni.
To her,
the tend
the doctor,
Francis,
who had,
was directly
the case of
Diana.
And this doctor
said constantly,
"'Iha,
you don't
stahas
a lot.
If you
don't have
a problemit,
a new
a new
don't you
don't be
to help.
And we're
to go to
your
house and
you're
to be
very
a doctora super
amorous,
her man,
I mean,
so,
the real
she never
always
he said,
she's
she
and she
she's
that she
and she
and she
said that
she was
to be a
moment and
to do it
was a
little
normal.
What
what
here,
her man?
A
the
time
to have
got
said
approximately
one
a second
after
after
after
I
did
the
time
and
occurred
something
something strange.
They were
at the
one of the
morning.
She was
in her
room,
in her
room,
and she
was there
and he
had been the
more.
She said,
I'm delirando,
no see.
The appurator
was close
of her
and she
didn't get
to look
there,
she said,
she's going to
go to do.
Because it's
something,
it's a little,
a little
a reflexe,
no see.
Prende the
light,
and I
and I
was a
woman
with bat
with lentes
a
woman,
a man
yeah
grand of
that
cabellucano.
The
He still
mirroying
like
if he
was
studying.
Diana,
like,
what,
what is
going to
and she
says,
what is
here?
With much
fear,
obviously.
And this
person
is present
like the
doctor
Elizabeth
and he
says,
I'm
I'm
observing,
I'm
my,
I'm
that's
me,
if you,
I'm
just
only to
see
analyzing.
Well,
Diana
so
And so super extrano
the fact
of how to
go to enter
to my
court,
so of the
nothing,
and me
you're going to
see,
and he
doesn't know
to be
to say,
and she
said,
she said,
he said,
but,
you know,
you know,
you know,
so you
go,
and I'm
going to
go to
see,
with you,
with a
time,
yeah.
Here,
what curious,
her man,
is that this
person,
when he
never moment,
open the
the door.
Diana,
says,
Paco, this
woman
atroves
the door.
In that moment,
all of course
because she said,
a little,
what are,
what is going,
what is going,
she said,
I don't
have problems
in the
mind,
I mean,
I'm here
for depression.
Jamas
have seen
fantasas.
Then she
had a
more she
her situation
mental
was going
more
than than
to make
to make
to make
that,
and he
said,
no,
certainly
if
came to
the doctor
Elizabeth
and she
went,
but if
opened the
door
but not
I mean.
So,
like
it's like
it.
I mean
to
literally to
do this
so it's
that she
was a
more confunded
and more
a lot of
because
not saw
if she
had seen
a
or if
really
she was
being
getting
she's
she's
not
because
I think
I'm
that
a rato
because
think
I'm
I'm
think you
think you
I'm
decided
but her
state
better.
She
She said that
because
she's
she
became more
paranoia and
all the
time
she was confiable
of the
medicine
because he
gave to
a conclusion
she
she gave
to think
that they
were
they were
they're
to make
more
to make
money
to the
parents
then so
she
said
she
she said
because
I was
that I
never
never
see
I'm
trying
I'm
taking
I'm
doing
so
she
she's
she
It's a real,
it could that's real,
it's not,
no, no,
I know,
they're going
going to the
days and the
days, and
here the curious
is that is
that she
did it,
to say,
I'm in the
cell,
general,
platicing to
with the
Dr.
Francis,
that I'm
about,
I'm going,
how you're
saying,
I'm,
meinti
to me,
don't,
all good,
doctor,
I'm going to,
and I
got to
my house.
When in
that,
she said,
she
was she
looking at the doctora Francis
and for the rabble of the
eye, be a
silhouette.
And like,
she's going
and he's going
and he's
done to get a
other way this
doctora.
He was from
a little bit of
but he said
that she was
saying that she
was really a
much case,
but like
she did it
he was
that she was
there was
this doctorer
that was in
her
that night
said that
in that
moment,
a mecita
of a center
that was
there,
like she
started
to move
solo
And he says that the doctora Francisca
he's looking and he said,
ah,
I'm I,
I'm sorry,
is that the apatia
without,
like she's,
like she
was to plant
that nothing
but that
this woman,
this doctora
all the time
was present about
like not
the same
of the
way,
observantola,
mirandola
if she was
in some
place,
the other
woman
came about
out of
out of
so,
like she always
was made,
that's actually
that person
she was very recurrent,
justly,
always at the distance,
always she was
for the rabies
of the eye.
What happened
her, man?
She decided
to ignore,
decided to
call out.
And there's
a moment
where she
says that
he's
that with
the
body
rigid,
was now
so,
after the
famous
paralysis of
a suh.
It was
all
dark,
no,
he could
move,
no
could be
in
that,
when
I went
to his
direction,
brother,
this doctorer,
this doctor,
was a
one side of
his camera,
a ladit,
he was
looking like
and I
only he
and she said
I don't
talk,
no could
talk,
no
could be
in that
Paco
says,
I,
I see,
I see,
how this
woman
is up
to the
camera,
and put
his
his
rodilla
over the
over my
and
he,
and
put
his
hands in my
coo'eo.
His
hands were
frias,
frias.
And
he started
to
presser.
I said,
I felt
how little
a little,
I was
was still
the air
and I
came to
my
car.
And she
only was
she reeled
and me
said,
we're
to be
if
you're
you want to
get
because
we're
that she
was
in
that moment
she said, I knew, Paco, that I,
that I, that I don't me
want to die.
I said, I'm trying to
my life.
No, I could be able to
say, but I was
I a raeating the colchon
with the poor
force that he had.
And she said,
because she said,
me going to die.
Yeah, much time
what he has been
without respirate,
and I'm going to
do you, and
he said,
he, for favor,
he gave an opportunity
that she,
well, she never,
no, no,
I don't see
to make,
and in that,
he,
a man
there are two
men are two
people
like assuptated
and said
what happened
because I'm
when I'm
I'm sure
you know
the light
and said
I'm the
mind of the
hands in the
cooey
me been
yurand
and say
that they
say that
she's
doctor at the
she's
what's
what you
said what
she said
you know
we're
you're
you're
you're
you're
you're
so like
so like
so like
so it's
so it's
so it's
And if I only
I just said to the doctora
that had
had been a
pesertya
and that
he had been
he was going
but that
she was
she was working
so like
all she was
so that's
because she
had a
thing but
she said
she said
that really
she was
she was
really not
not existia
this doctora
but that she
only was
she was
lastimating
yeah
after several
days
her man
she
she began
to experimenter
these
things more
more
and there
a moment
where
simply
decided
to tell
to the doctor
to say
to say to
say to
the doctora
I'm going to
say the
word I'm
having this
this,
this,
what I
what I
was what
this,
this,
said that
the doctora
in no
no moment
he interrupted
but
she put
a car
so
like
as like
strange
and
and the
only
that he
he
we're
we're
we're
to
we're
to change
our
routine
is the only
that's the only
that's the
other
he said
she said
she said
she's
she's
the doctor
an notot
she's
this Elizabeth and he
he said,
he said,
was that
it was
the medical
that were all
that's
because she
she had to
be her
completely.
The ad
to be
her family
and she
got a
new perspective
of the
life and
he said
that she
was recurrent
to this
hospital
because
she had
a
particular
a particular
time
and a
occasion
she kept
talking
with
a
camillero
of
a manger
and the
and the
platica,
brother,
Sal,
what this
sir
had lived,
and he
said,
is that
there are
patients
that report
to a
doctorate
that's
in fact,
her
is Elizabeth.
And she
said,
like,
to be,
to see,
it's
always,
it's,
I'm
not,
not it's
product
of my
imagination
of the
medications,
he said,
no,
no,
you're
the
only that
has
seen.
There
have
people
have
been,
there
a famous doctorate
Kevin.
And she said
Paco,
then what
happened?
I mean,
I'm all the
life
thinking that
were
my own
my
that's,
result that
was a
entity that
you're a
man.
Well,
for the
most the
treatment
functioned.
Funcion?
That's what
important.
To be
to be
to be it.
But,
but if
there are
many
things
that get
to
do you
to
to
we can
say
that if
were
something
real or
or something
you know.
As a
moment,
you know,
you know,
that's
things of the
ormigas.
Ah,
yeah.
We're not
to say
that it's a
symptom of a
person that
has a
person that has
a person.
I mean, in an
person,
had this class of
hallucinations.
Tenia a
spouse and
his children
aterrathered.
No,
it's
for me.
No,
brother.
Of the
actual
at the
caras
quadras
where I was
the station
of the
bomberos
where I
went to
go to
this person
very normal
and I'm
like you
how you
see
well
I don't
know for
what you
I'm
so I'm
I'm gonna
I'm
I'm gonna
see how I'm
yeah I'm
yeah
so I'm
but
what you
what you
see
but
I'm
I'm
I'm
because I'm
Ormigas.
Yeah.
The type of
ormigas,
Ormigas
rogues, of
the grand
and I
feel like me
piqued.
So,
we're not
absolutely
everything and
all the
man, and the
sir was
like a
assorriated in
a corner
abrassando
his
and I
did, no,
this has
to be more
with a
situation of
that
was being
violent.
That's
what's the
thing
to know
to the
so
we've done
to do this
to the police
We're going to
a police
and we're
a situation
here's a
car,
not there
nothing
medical,
you know
you're
all you
get in
a cargo.
But
just when
we were
to the
door
Paco,
I got
my
botikin
me
go
to
the
door
and he
and he
and he
a
little
a
thing
a
thing
and
look
see
they're
like horrible, horrible,
he'd
be a
horrible,
so it
was horrible,
all,
aterrowered.
That's,
that's,
that's
me or
and I think
that's
this person,
but I
knew that he
had an
schizophrenia.
Ah.
It's curious
because I
was talking,
I know
various
canalsals
and,
and over
all of
them of
one of
me says
very linda,
you
to know who's
to know who I'm
like I'm
like I'm
like I'm
like I'm
know how much
we're doing
we're
because I'm
like I'm
because I'm
doing it
I'm not
I'm not
but I
see really because
if I'm
really because I
know that
that's a
message
that's he
does the
messages
but for
the science
she has
got to
you've
heard
that you
have seen
that the
people that
have been
open
the painstimate.
They're open.
Sure,
so spectra is
much more
great.
And they can
perceive,
see,
be, hear,
or hear,
then all this
that comes
of other
plan or of
other dimension.
But that,
obviously,
for the
science,
we don't
get to
that we
know,
you know,
you know,
you know,
you know,
you know,
but you're
for you
do that's
for you
have been
testimony
of persons
that really
really can
and they
are,
the,
so the
questions
medics
in
conjunction with
things
paranormal
that's
like,
how does it?
How does it?
So, how does it
for me,
if it's a
real at my
point of
view of
my point of
I mean,
I always
I'm always
to the medical
and yet
of the other
part of
Nazareth?
Yes.
Well,
Paco,
well,
I want
to come
with a
story.
You know
the things
of Santa
Mold
to me
fascinan.
I
am.
I'm
I'm going to go into. And this story,
I want to say to the audience,
to all those who are crevents,
no, do you take a personal.
I'm a creetient.
It's that then go.
It's that's enoja.
For, yeah,
I mean,
I, the question of,
how, how to enter to
the cults,
and ask us,
because then then
then they do.
So,
for that part,
I mention,
this story,
for me is real.
Okay.
I think is something
real.
A.
Paco, when
they're
in the
question
of the
cult
for simple
and
a simple and
a
recommendation
of one,
met,
you're
to be to
protect
and do
this
ritual,
there is
where
the consequences
that was
this
case.
There's
a person
no
know
how it
did,
no
what was
what he
did,
well,
a
more
if we
know,
but
from
a
Penal,
I'm a
story
to be
specific.
This person
mentions,
Oyes,
Nazareth,
I've
seen your
videos.
I'd
like to
tell you
a story
of the
because I
am
in this
carcel.
I'm
I'm
in this
clinic
that's
that's
a
enderms
psychiatricos
and
and we're still
for addictions.
If I
had given the
name,
but it's a
clinic that
in the
city of Mexico.
It's
much time
for there.
My family
are all
people are
very much
very
into this
question of
addiction
and also
was very
involved in
the things
of crime.
So,
for that
moment,
to me
they're
to get
to
desintoxication,
to a
lot of
things,
but I
had
clear
what
was my
idea
when
that's
going to
get in
the question
of the
question of
the crime
so I
think of
a classic
always
I said
for those
times
still still
not was
not even
I'm
not even
the time
I don't
know much
about the
thing
I've
heard
but
just the
people
that the
people who
were
I'm
know
because I
was a
class
a class
a class
of
a dealer
for him.
So,
like,
kind of
kind of
people who
are people who
are people
so he
he says,
he says,
I'm saying,
I'm going to
do you know,
and all the
thing I'm
saying, and
this he
suggests,
why not
you're going
and you
makests
with the
death?
So,
so,
so?
So,
so?
But how
what is that?
See,
you know,
you're going to
see,
you passen
more
things like
these,
that's,
that
they're
to be
to do you
do you
want to do
the other
malandros
and things
for the
style,
how you
say,
but it's
guarantee?
If it's
guarantee,
and it
and acude
with this
person.
Well,
this person
mentions
that's a
area
to a
topito,
supposedly.
Orale.
So,
in this
area,
you know,
they're
an entry
a
house,
that was
a
house,
that was
a
But at
ingress,
she does
know that
there's a
little
there's a
and that
there were
people armed
and people
that were
well,
well,
well,
well,
they were
in many
other
materials.
Yeah.
And at
the
front,
there was
an altar
enormous
to the
Santa Morty.
The
curious,
that me
really,
the attention
of this
part,
mention,
you know,
the
person that
was
that was
the person,
that
they were
getting
and
was a
person,
imagineatela,
all the
vestia of
black,
but with
a cairn
on a
manches,
how you're
that's,
how you're
that was
that was
that was
that I
did you
did you
say,
well,
well,
then I'm
for me
formed,
it was
like if
you're
like if
were you
to make
a Eucharistia,
we'd
give us
a class
of a
thing that
we didn't
we were
what
did you,
and you
I'm sure that
what I
was something
that until
the time
I don't
me explain
like for
why
but
supposedly
they were
a person
that was
a person
that was
a person that
was
a adult
and
and they
put
a
a supposed
as
a
boat
that
had
some
that had
some
but
a
but that
a
way
met
they
of the positive of the
positive of the
hand. And no, no, no.
So, no, no. It's
a little bit of the liquid
vital. So this person
that was dying, for evidente
dolor, he took the
hand and they're going to
all those who were there
with the signal of the
cross. And
there, all, to all, to
all, with the liquid of this person,
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so you
know I know
for
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I don't have
any
reference
and then
I was
I was
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out of
the
and I was
working
for
because
of the
destiny
I
I'm
in the
crime
but
I
go to
Guadalajara
So when I
I was
I was
when I
used to
my
familyers
because I
had to
get to
get to
my family,
me
they said
I'm
saying that
I'm
quite
strange
and
rather
where
I was
supposedly
had
things
like
to
get me
to
the
and
get me
in the
cornice
parado
saying
saying
words
that my
family
no
I
didn't
and
the
part
more
feigned.
Resulted
that this
obviously
because,
as I'm not
the clear
idea of
the crime,
imagineate
of the
addictions,
well,
resulta
that they
they're
to go
to
other center,
but now
in arandas.
And he
mentioned,
here was
where it
was where
was the
case,
a me
encarceled,
and,
and,
it was
a event
that
were,
they were
all
the
that's
that's
superiors.
I said,
to be
to get
what's
the first
I'm going to
see what
a series
of spectros
as
sombras
that were
in a
guadana
an guadana
decostado
so,
that's
the ladit
was,
it was
what I
said,
it's for
the same
that I'm
just for the
person
they're
ingress
to
the center.
And when
they're
going to
they're
not a
problematic.
I was the
he was
to get to
get to
get to
get to
more time.
It was
to be to
get to
this
center
in a
occasion
I'm
I'm
doorme
and
resulta
that
I
observe
that one
I observe
that a
person that
me
want to
get to
something
I
don't
I don't
I
don't
remember
that
was
but me it's
quit
so in
that moment
I'm
so I'm
so
I'm
very much
and when
I'm
so euphoric
all
all
this
in ravia
so totally
the only
that I
think I
I'm
and when
I
I'm
I'm
I'm
all
I'm
I'm
no
I'm
so
so
he's
he's
the
only
that I
remember
is
that
me
I'm
I'm
I'm
and I'm
I'm
a
full of
so I'm
so I'm
then I'm
then I'm
and then
I said
me
me
I'm
directly
to
to be
to
encarceled
result of
that they
said that
me said
that I
had
had
had
had been
with the
life
of this
person
I don't
do
I don't
I
don't
I don't
I remember.
I was the
only
that I mean,
there were
some of the
other
people who were
in the
other people who
were the
this is the
part that
is the part that
you,
what you
as you,
as you,
as you,
you,
I'm saying,
when
supposedly I
know,
I'm
saying,
that I
know,
I'm,
I'm
a person,
and that's,
it was to
the
and then
after the
he took
he's
he's
to get to
get to
get to
to get
to
that's
so that
you know,
that you
know,
this person
was a
great
you have
to have
a super
force
you
have
so
so
so
so
so
I
do
and I
put down
and this person
was
so far
so that
was
what was
what I
was
a
person that was
but others
who were
more
more
more
detail
they were
that a
or a
spectro
like a
kind of a
kind of a
water
and a
carcault
with the
guadana
as I
saw the
side
and he
was put
in the
coo
and that
that was
what was
to
he was
to
get to
to
get
suspended
only.
So,
the form
of my
man,
that was
supposedly
detentient,
in reality,
no,
it was
not really,
was like
so, it's
just about
over the
so.
So, the
people who
were
were in
me,
they said
that a
spectro of
the Santa
Morte,
had done
that was
that
this person
mentioned,
justly.
He said,
no, I
can't
say,
who I'm
really,
because
it's a
big problem,
in the
carcels.
Sure.
But that
was the
reason for
that I mean
me
encarceled
and I'm
in Pouente
Grand.
And you
what you
do you
think is
it's
that's
rare
a story.
Super
bizarre.
The
story.
But
I can
say
a
thing.
The
form
in that
he's
had been
to
the
culto
not.
Not was
the
correct.
Because
he didn't
even
had
a
devotion
for
her.
Sure.
He only
was always
he was
the
benefit
but
even
he was even
not even
not even
not even
not even
and the
form of
ritual
to my
point of
I think
who was
was a
person
really
extremist
that
at my
point of
view
that was
doing
that I'm
much
much
good
because
in
all
parts
there
are
religions
cultos
where
exist
these
these
people
extremists
that
is the
word, that
they're going to
limit of what
permitted,
this type of
practices, and
that's a
great problem.
Sure.
If they're
much
careful, they're
much
care.
No,
not acceding
to do things
that you're
that they're
that they're
not.
What good
episode,
that's super
episode,
man.
How you're
pasted?
No,
thank
for
me to invite
to tell them
to be
really, I
don't know,
I don't know,
no, no,
no,
no, I know
no,
I don't know,
I've
,
I've
a question,
but I'm doing this
before I'm sorry,
before, man, to despeding us.
before us,
record, us,
your reas social and projects.
That's, right?
For there,
us can't even more than
the other
project, but also
in Puerta and also
another project, Paco,
that I'm
very content with
it's the
question of
some of the
time of the
cult of the
Santa
Morty,
for people
I know that
people,
I know the
question of the
question of
the cult but
they're
and he
offenderah,
oh,
no,
the podre,
or
things for the
style.
So,
so I'm
a way
a lot
sobria,
a
quite
tranquilla and
a
very
very
very
a good
and he
and he's
a
way,
with all the
respect
of the
world and
without
other
other
so
so that
this project
Paco
where I
invite to
people
to get
to learn
to
what is
to
how to
get
to get
to get
some
there,
so
thank
many
thank
Nazar
again
this
thanks to
the
people
that are
the
episodes
are my
favorite
those
I want
much more
thanks to
those that
are there
being in
those times
and they're
in Spotify
and don't
keep us
for there.
And a
little to
the family
that's
the repented
the podcast
and the
lot of the
things,
making the
gymnasia
of the
business
of the
business.
Not
even before
before,
before,
before,
before,
before,
where I
did it
all,
so that you
know,
you know,
when
we're new
episodes,
give
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and
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and for
that's
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I'm
my name
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we're
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we're
we're
next
Ciao.
He
he was
he had
the
good to
have
sexual
with cats
when he
when he
he has
the
bagger
this person
when he
does the
hand the
hand the
hand
the
and when
the
carl
to
get to
get to
the
lot of
the
car
these
they're
they
they're
they're
and
they're
in the
hospital
psychiatric
they
they're
they're
they're
to the sate
he was
from the
pantalone
they're
those
they're
those tessal
he
he did
know
of this
that he
had
he had
he got
he
had got to
he
had
he had
on the
in the
plancha
he
he's
he just
he starts
and he
he's
he's got
and so
God
God
God
God
God