EXTRA ANORMAL - Relatos de PANTEONES | BRUJERÍA, muertos y tumbas MALDITAS

Episode Date: April 17, 2026

💀 En este episodio de EXTRA ANORMAL PODCAST hablamos de panteones, brujería, muertos, nahuales, tumbas malditas y relatos paranormales que ocurrieron dentro de cementerios y exploraciones nocturnas.⚠️ Historias de un muerto enviado desde un panteón, un amarre de muerte, la tumba de Nachito en el Panteón de Belén, una medalla de San Benito con consecuencias extrañas y una exploración en el Panteón de Celaya ligada a un brujo.🕯️ En este episodio encontrarás:⚰️ muertos enviados desde el panteón🪦 amarres de muerte y brujería👁️ nahuales y entidades en cementerios🕯️ la tumba de Nachito y sus milagros📿 objetos encontrados en panteones con consecuencias oscuras🌑 exploraciones paranormales en tumbas de brujos👁️ Si te gustan los relatos paranormales, las historias de panteones, la brujería, los nahuales, los muertos, las tumbas malditas, los casos sobrenaturales y los misterios de México, este episodio es para ti.🖤 Bienvenidos a EXTRA ANORMAL PODCAST, donde hablamos de lo que muchos callan.💬 Déjame tu opinión en los comentarios🔔 Suscríbete y activa la campanita para más episodios de EXTRA ANORMAL PODCASTCanal de mi invitada:  @luisacardenasofficial 

Much's Asegure that in the pantheons not all descends in peace. According to some workers, there are noches where they can't be figures

extrane, moving in the obscurity. In also, in some rincons, you can't be silhouettes,

silhouettes of the children, because a panteon not only only guard corpses, guard histories,

stories, stories incompletes, desperididated rotas, and almas that not accept their final. This night

not you will be to hear simple relaps, you're going to be to places where

where some even after the murder. Bienvenous. What's family? Beenvenous to a

other a podcast extra anormal. My name is Paco Arias and I'm

happy to be in a chapter for all of you family I'm

am sure for many reasons but, especially because we have a one invite

a very special this night, a person with much experience in the ambit paranormal and that I'm sure

that all the majority of you know, you know, in a moment, in a program very famous.

Today, me a company, Louisa Cards. How is Lisa? Very well. Much

thanks, Paca, very content to be today to here here, partying

these stories paranormal with you and and I'm gladysed for the invitation to your program. Thank you, Louisa. I know that much people

to recognize in this moment. But for those people that are unying to the channel, that not are very familiarized with the theme paranormal, I'd like that, for favor, you present, who are you,

to do you, to do you do you know, your networks social? Thank you, Paco. My name is Luisa Cardena. I'm medium

evidente, of the nascimento. There are who are people say the Bruchita, not I'd

not so, I'm not that I'm not that practice as such a really, my

therapy are to help to work to do and then the process of the dole

to dole to make this this so not can to be that

that's that other and that they can they can

do you can't you can't you can't a person that can't

to have been like if if they're dead. So, it's important that's

ritual. And apart I'm 19 years doing investigation paranormal. Uff, excellent.

Your social is, Luisa? Me They're like Luisa in

all the media. Perfect. Oye, the theme that we're to talk to this night, and

I'll preceal to the time, because I think, at the long of the years, the long of the history, the

cemeterios, the mortals, has been a cause of much intrigue, especially because it's mentioned in certain

scriptures, even great grimorios, that there are jobs that are in pantions, in these Campos

where are there can't be many times, but that at the time, it's a

place in a portal, where so there's where I want to you, what you

what you think you what you Fidate that a phenomenon very interesting. The point they say

the spirit gets trapped where the body and this no is so in all the

cases. Where we can ensure that the spirit very probably is in the pantheon

is in the cases where the person is quite it's easy to hangar

that the spirit is there and be penando and where they

are they're they they're a form violent. When there, is,

it's a conjugal of these two situations, then we can talk or think that the spirit is in the tomb.

And it's there to those almas that are like, not almas, spiritus, because it's different

the soul, a spirit, to those are those are those for the brujeries and for

in a time, to do you, because are people, because are a spiritus that have a

suffering with the that's that's we're going to get pening. The people

who are other other other other other there's when

when they're when they when they're in an accident automobile or they're not the process of

the spirit of but it will be to attack to the body. To be

at when there much a moral to physical then they're disrending,

no they're not going to do you and they're to get to those people, but the

majority of the spiritos is more that's more that's in their house, in what they

they were and with the people that they loved. Okay. Is that this thing

will be very interesting because I have information of many things that they do you

want to to tell to all the audience that is getting that for

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.com. m. I get I'm you're to say something. I'm

I'm am in panial in comparison with this theme

of investigation. I'm aficionado. I'm aficionado. I'm many things that

happen. But I've done to something and I'd help you to help you to confirm

this. Honestly, I've visited many many many people. In the grand

majority, no, it's peace, even, tranquillity. It's something,

it's a very pacifico, but there's a percentage minor, where is all the contrary? Some pantheones

where we we've got we've got we're santae, we've got frasks, we've got to

putasos of the aluminum, that's like the method of protection of the work, but the great majority

of pantions are very very very but the that is pesh, agratt

it, is pesed. What do you is that? Is that is pesable normally is because

is ritualized So what Abro a portal and attract Ceres of other plan and we're about about

a barho astral that there is the they're that they're that's the same

invocated or not necessarily to the spirit. As well you know in the

majority of the cases, the pantions is a place but if this

pantion has a time and there there are in specific for example

in the city of Guadalajara you you know, that there was the explosions tremendous

of the 22 of April. And then there were many people who were not reconnocied to,

could I said pedacera of a group, that they did you a fos common and

there was so imagine the energy for what was, that no there was like a

ritual, no they didn't have that that was that the process

of their so, then they're some pantions, that you can't say, an area

I'm a feel very, very tranquilly, is more, this, I'm just a piece

interior and me feel well. And the other other side, they're they're

a real a little, and then they were a portal that no they're

that they're not, and they're there's, and is, what you is what you is, what

you're doing, you know? Yeah, fiat that one of the things that also

that's repiten much of the pantheones is that in these in these

places are in the fact satanical I'm I'm was looking a

book just that you talk about that the not only they're in

in other they're in many there's there's there in the

pantheon one in pantions two in these cruces

of where where where pass the train and three in churches. This,

really me surprised because for what I for what I did, I mean, the pacto that's in an church

is still more more than the cave, that's in the in the cemeterio, the that's in the cemeterio, the that's in

an in an church, wow, because first, and that's that the pacto, it's profan to do sands.

In this place. Groups of persons have community in groups. It's profaned with liquid vital, with

sacrifices, and then after comes the pact. All the same in the cemeteros. So, these

places, especially the tombs antivas, the people, the that the that's the day of

the day of the dead of the no they don't they don't they put in the water.

there are the ones that I'm going to I want to tell a story and I want to know your point of this story

we're called the ritual we're called us and then it's he's called and more than a

confession this is a question in Leone Guantahuato in the year 2010 Hector was a person

of 27 years in that then once a person that was a person was a employee

was a employee of a company that was dedicated to the topic of telecommunications. Me

he said that he had a five years working there. At the first one a person

very active laboral very very social very atent with all.

But he was an he said an increase is an increase in his salary

even even a place and he said the back I did

do I did do so if my my jeff literally me I went to

a lot of me said, I'm going for a tortoise, but yeah after the four years to see that

I'm not you know you're you're going to start or at least is what I mean it's a mode

to justificars for what he said. He said he's he's a he's his family

and he well he like the the economy he was a little and he started

and me he said I was I'm the first I was I was that extra, yeah me

sent about and I said a way, a way, a rite. So, he's my

not going to get. He's not he said, after this, after this passed, after after this, they're going to

contact a new. And he went to a young years. This man said,

at the principle, as he super active, he, good. The problem is when

when it is this celo laboral. Because this companyer, well, he said,

he said, he said, he said, he said, he did to make the he said, he was

that he could do that he was, and for his and they're to us to press

us, to make more, to for an example, he said, we'd say, we

didn't, we'd we'd we'd services for telecommunication. At In a month, we'll put

an example, no, $10,000 of a $1,000, is what the person that's the

person that's the person that's the time, he was not said 10,000. It's a lot.

He put a marca, and here he's a feo, it's because at the three

months, he's there's a backante of supervisor, and he is the that's the

that's that's that's that's That chameco, Pendejo, he goes to be my

jeff ten-nine years. The fact, you do a or so, you dole, you do in the

orgulio, you, it's, that someone that's going to be a very, I was,

I was, and no me ascended. And this man, and he's, and it's my chief.

Here, he's a thing. He's, because it is going to be the time,

passed one year, he's the fact that his life he's got a and his his life and he was

a manned an Ugo boss the chavito super well for his age super maduro

and very professional here here here here begins the problem

the and so and over when this chabo he

he said he said hector no you don't don't know

you hector hector and here he he's the problem

because this What cabro me is presson and he's

in the time, I know if you remember when you know, it's

at the YouTube to get to do something very very very

compared with what of but before you do you do you

could be very little and YouTube like all still not still

not still not not not these politics and he

he in his moment in the time in the work

old organizing he He started to be YouTube and said that he's encountered with a ritual. And the ritual said, desaste of that person and it was so explicit,

in that video, they'd how was dismembered an animal. So, many things. And all of that, he saw, wow. He said, what is what I'm going to do?

What is what I'm going to because he had much idea to this man, that at final of the count, is he's

doing good in your job, no? So, I'm found a

video where says, desaster of the person that you want to

you're in less a month. I'm not going to do the

whole I'm just I'm saying, it's a thing,

it was a thing to be to have to be to

kind of the person, no, he, he was he was he was

without that's didn't know, and that's written, the name,

the date of the fact of the thing, so all the time. Oh, not is all the

time. The case is, to a cemetery, to look the tomb more an

and do a very a question that I'm not too I'm to say

and after this or that the dead that the

to his job. He he was thinking. He said, what I go? It's not to start

to even even in the broghery. So, yeah, from there, we're to do.

One day he said that this chab, the new, the hefe, then he, he,

in the job, and he was, he was, he was he sent he

was he said, he said, he said, he said, he said,

he I'm going to do. Preparo all in three days. He went to the panteon. He's what he had to do.

And me describes something really loco. This is surreal, Paco. When I was the

photographia in the piece, in the earth. No, I did you did a ojito

nothing. I'm put there. I'm not you don't me to believe.

The tomb out of those blanosos of these when the the

skin is to putriending. No, I don't, I say, I don't know me I'll explain how they're

to get and they're like a whole the the oja, the oja with the photo and like

they're rastrarer to the tomb. Delante of my eyes, the busanos they've said the

photo. Dice, I'm getting surprised. At the day the day

I'm present to to work that, this chameco no's present. No,

no we know we knew we're all day, Stubo It was a

pasted the days, no he was to get a and not yet he was the rumor,

that was a lot of a bit of a lot of his supervisors, another, of other other zone,

and he asked, why not he's not? Yeah, we're we're trying to say the

desgracial, yeah we're he's, I think, he's, I'm still, he's still,

so, so, I'm made a incapacity, no At the month, super delgado. In a month, a person, I don't know, me says,

that a person can't change so in a month. Delgado, demacred, gerosy, toc, I'd say a lot. And apart, like,

apestable, this man, he bested all the time, saw, but fustapestable. And, I said,

I just knew that the work was working. Me, I said, that a the

second a second, a little a little a baby

a little to get a little to get to get to get to get

to get to have problems in the office so much things started

to get to he's a three months no

no it not not it was not he

to I know to he because he they

they they did they Yeah, me did the place, and so

he's that for the way me corresponded. A the day

came the news. This ex-gefe, this man of now,

now, 20 years, had died. The sad is that the

way in how he's, his family no he's, he's,

to us, we're, and he's invited to your belorio. And see what what I said

this person, I went, because the net I'm entoojave on some tamalitos and a coffee. He went to the belorio.

It's he to go to the wife, a woman young, 22 years, a baby, his son,

he was an unerfan, be to his mom and see a his father. In that moment,

when he saw the family that was he was yorando to this chabot

that was a he was to be a form horrible and the idea

and the joy and all the goso that I said he's I'm I'm

I'm a when I see a that that was that was that was

that was that the idea that that was to be to be going to

get an person he and he For some, remodement. Arrepentiment.

We know, and I do a parenthesis, that when you start to see this, agarratte because it's a time in a karma very strong. It's supposed, and, to be, this, I've been told me many brus. When you do you do this type of job, zero sentiments.

You're a machine. This person, this person, and he said that he started to occur to something. He said that he he started to sonnard

that he was trapped in a little he was he was he was

because he was making all the he was he was he was he was there was

a town he said and he was I was something I was up

on the feet me up the he was up the he

he was he was he was he he was so I saw that

I The gusans. It said, the gusanos, it was the sensation horrible. A of a person, the sunsons were me metian for the naris,

by the eyes, for the eyes, for the boca. And, he said, I don't me could move. I felt like those animals

were going and were from my body, he said, despertable so all. All right. But this

dream was a repeat one and other once. One and another once.

He said that He started to to do not to do with the lack of

the sleep he's a little they're there and then

there's there and he and he don't to be to talk about

this story that person that's the person that he said he said he

said he did to get very bad in the time and he they're

saying his companions of confients my my friends. Oh, Ictor,

no you va-naz? Why? Why? Sure, that's cabrown, apestas.

How you I said, I'd say, I'm oh, no, no, no, for nothing. Apistaba.

He said his family and he said exactly the same. He demor

in understanding what was going. He said, I understand. A something,

a consequence of all what I did, He says that the time was passing he started he's

he's going to and he he said Paco, I intended to be to try to my life

no could and if me coleged a ram outside of the patio of the patio of

my house the ram he was something I don't I'm could

get the final of this I live miserable I'm only

I'm and I'm the little that I can't is to pay for medication

I'm a to get a no I'm can't do you don't know the

the dormer because is a so yeah those gusannos they're again to to get

to get to the and only I'm I'm that I think

pardon of me because I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm a a kid, and a husband without a and a man,

I'm repented, imagineate, from the 2010 to the date, that person preferere

to be but he's to die. He's can't be able. He's can't

because he has to pay the car for what he did. What he was very

very very very from a way because he doesn't he's

he says that the chabo had all the merit to

gain to get a what he can't so even he

know it's something is something that is a constant is envety

to the exit to no they what they cost

to the person the time simply they they're they

they're they're they're because you know you know you don't

you're you and you something is about the gusus

Blankos. When in those casas beas beasas balsanusan immediately is sign inequico

of that they are doing some type of magic obscura. The gusans these, that are like

of the human, those that are those that are the even those who are in the fruit,

if you do you do you do you do you get to puter the that's

the there's there's that the house is a sign inequico of

that something and that you have to have been careful. Of a repent me

they're going and they're in a caron that no there's there was a

manned of gusanito blanos so so you know, at all you are you

are doing in the night no there in the morning it

when it so what is so what? Is it? Normally but

there can they can put your death physical or your death in the

work or your to do your death or your murder in the paria. Of your

point we're a work but not those jobs of the work of life you have with a

life there's a envy of that they say the typical that your best your best

she no, I don't I don't want to that she have a time to

do that I that's that's that's that's that so I'm so

she can do you can't do you can you're like you're like you're

and not you can't advance in that area, in your life. So, so there

many different of the work. It's very very very important. We're not

we've done that one of the sentiments more recurrentes in one person that is the envisional

almost never, I don't is the 100 but I do an 80. Envibia.

And the other is a other is like a thing of a thing of The envidia, for me, predominant in

almost all the work. Totally, of course with you. Totally. And, and,

talking of envyia, there's something that I'm also, I'm to share, a story of a patientita that also

has been with pantions. Okay. Resulta that this patient, I'd attendia via

remote, because no, no, I'd live in the same city, then, then,

there's there cases that you've vials remote, no? And then

she started to start a little she had also a

post a industry and was a manager of a firm

and and he and to be a feeling a

a debil a the the end the is

going and a little time he said that

he said At a little time, she'll leave the nobio. And then she starts to deprimer and begins, as you said, to delgasar.

Muchissimo, much, at the grade of that it's in the pure wussito. And then she said, something,

and effectively when we'd make us cards, he appeared, a, one, a obscurity, no?

But as it was a distance me said, I'm, I'm going to I'm going to take the force necessary to go to see avert.

Then, then the time and then of a sudden the first the man, I said, I know what

has been passed. And then a day he goes to the her man and me said,

oh, you're still you're attending to my herman, fithate that I

come in representation of her, because he's that you do you and he

has been what has been So, they torsied the feet. Medically, the family had a capacity economic. They're going to do all class of studios. And they're saying,

even the column, it had been as a recital. When she had not suffered a carida, no, there was an accident previous that justificer the fact that that his column had

torsied and the the PIRNs totally like if he had had done a piece of polio.

Okay. So, then you're no, well, something you have to do.

In this occasion, yeah, we asked, and apparently to get a person of the work he had

made a marre in all the aspects of his life but that really wanted

to get to the to the death. And he said, here

he's that they they're in a panteon but to a some

member of the family he you need you to go to you to do

to get to get to let's let's because I'm I need

I need to me you know I can I can consume the

I'm I'm I'm so you did you was very money for

this money and effectively because you have to know that the

bruchos what do you do you do you do you do you do you

to put in time to do you know you you know to be the person in the

time that's permitted then you then you then you know you

so we we're about the time we're about about 15

20 days all the family preoccupied they unier

started they started to and then was not

It's until one of of them that was not was able and was

they're not because apart they're they're things to

about the family even even they're doing so

they don't you don't you don't you part

this she was desperate but there there other

members that not other members that not a

one to to the mom and remodel the tomb,

put her plantitas, and encounter a fetish had as a little the womankeita with her and with the

photographia in the rostro and then then they had alfileres in all the column and in

the the she. She not knows what she has with that she said

to God to this her man and he said that's what we've been

He says, well, is it in the tomb of your mom. I came to reglaar. He took a maceats. And I did sender matts. And what I'm going. Well, they're, they're going to, they're taking the mukechita and me la and then it's going to do you.

So, it's a job of despojo. was something super because something that something that's something is that if I quitted

a job, the who put you, he was going to come to not in person but in part

astral. So this this broo is so present and between us is a

the other means in the plan astral until you say you say

you're you don't you did nothing, not you're not

you're you do do you do this you're let me let me liberate

let me let me try to medial for the good is what more you

do that not you not is something you know you not even know

you know you please I know you let me and we

let us we we're we're we liberate a she

dispo we we each one of the the

Agujas, she disused the job, she came, and the chica, in a

question of 15, 20 days, he was a life, he was

a vitality, because they're getting to the light in his eyes,

they're putting apos, and as you're another of those things

very characteristics are to know to get a and it's

something so so so, thanks to you know, a

We could not do we'd do not. But if not, this chick, would have been more by the simple envidia and courage of someone more.

And curiously, they had been interrated to his mom. That's, fjeter, never had heard of,

no, the fact of that you can't in a tomb of a family, and so

what, why has more more more? For the last of the hand.

It's like a burl to maldecy the inage the inage family not

more to her. Sure. So, then I'maldivou to you and maldivou to do your lineage.

And for example, mention you, I mean, it's interesting this because it's, the wars

spiritual are very very strong. There are brus that when when I know, when,

I'm, for example, and I think, with much respect, but so me they're

when they're when they're when they're so, so, is a little more complicated. And,

of the fact, there's have. Only a paler. It's a palero. Only a sanderer, can with a santaero,

but how it's always in your case when the person you say, no, no, I'm going to let's see. There is a

little different. The bien no, he'll the good. The good of love. Mandas a more and

you make a and you confies in that the of the way to do the sufficient force

of love and of love to allentar to be a other human, to the other bruching

that's looking to you, and they're they're in their they're in their energy

and they're they're, but yeah, but yeah not it's your energy yeah it's a

thing, you're a power. You're a power yeah is against God.

Contra- against so is. I don't say, it's my energy that that

that is my energy that because I always I'm the intercession of the day

up and of all the personal, I work much with angels and

with archangels, and I'm that I'm that's a power and that's that I'm

and that's all the time. And still I'm going to do you. No, it's

that's the people have heard of the energy of the God creator, forgetate. They're

in words of those are some are a rastrisas literally you're like literally you lastima.

Yeah. you dole, even even even to even to get a movement because they they're doing, they're in,

so the the force of the creator of God as much is very strong obviously, the major

protection always has been to come to God, and the brucco there's not I don't

enter. Because I'm to get to I'm going to get. That's my friend, I'm

I'm here, I'm I'm here you, I'm a story, and me a intrigue

a It's a pretty because there's a form, and it's a question that I

do you want to do you? There's a form for you to justify a job of a

thing, I mean, I did for, or any pretext? For you there is

a pretext? No. A me is a question of the human.

This me do a person that not a name, me say, for

favor that is totally anonym. To give the identity, we'll put him we're going to us

Pedro. A person that actually has 48 years. But when this occurred, he had

more almost some more about a Kiyuka in Veracruz and he passed in

the year 1999 and so much time. He me he said that he

was he was a father of parents Jornalers Vivian in a

house in the abel, practically, mom of his father, and here he's a

little the little little little brothers. And Peter me said that he took to

see that he took to see how he was the major of all. He mentioned that

for some they were with her fatherna. The question

here is that in this nuclear there had much scarcity, there had a

poverty, there of all. And his pap, that was

a hornalero, he was a really, he was he

presentia he presentia how his father when his job

for whatever that not he was that he

was he he gave a mad a his

husband or a his mom he and me

I present how my father not only only he would be and I'm going to censor

by here. My father viola my mom all the nights. He said is an infirno

Paco? to hear how your mom implored that that he was

that he would and to hear how she was she was

she was a to be in a hugged, to not to get a child to get

to get to get to be that they're going to the man. He said

in a occasion, I'm molest, I remember I had I had I in that

then I had a time, I went to the court. It was the

poor decision that I'm my father me got

so that I did I did I with

my mom in the hospital. He said, the only that me consoled is that day that bestia left in

peace to my mom, for the last night. Because all I was that I

didn't know, I thought, and he was, and he was, and he disappeared, he disappeared, some days.

It's the only that me was consoled. That those few days, he said,

my mother, I, I'm, I'm, a past that they were in house,

the mom of this type, he no was a he, no, pele, no, peggle more more d'n. No is sufficient woman for you, is what he said.

She has to do. She has to do what you do you ask, so. She's a senior who I'd admit that my abuel, impulsed that my father did more things fash. He said, all my

brothers, including me, we'd, just, we're, to do you. A little years, were making more brothers, the senior was getting more children, they've got various. It's the only that I said. And

all of started to work in the camp. All they had to get to go to the moly, go to go to

go to, and go to go back. When I did it, when I knew, more or less, the 20,

more or 10, 20 in the journal laboral, I toped with a man, a

year of some of 60-and- many. This this man me told as a

person of the people of the person of the person, and he did a this thing of the brujeria. And said, honestly,

me desperto the interest. He said, who is? Yeah, me he's a man. He's a man. He's a man. And what does

that sir? His response was, what you do you do? What? What you do you? How?

Well, can be to try that the love of your life, could do you? So, how, that's,

this guy, this old, this man, not, this man, this man. What he

started this the sir, was to do do you do you

do this you're going to do you do you're a person to do you he said

yeah, so he he was where he was where he was there was a okay

he said for him was a new never had ever had heard

like he done of like the but he's

he And he says that one once, he'll hear how his father he would be a woman

and how he abusable. He said that he sent to, in his room, there was a room of

the Virgin of Guadalupe. And he, being a adult, young, 189

years, he said to God, let me to look to this man to disappear to my

father and my old. For favor, let me go. give me a signal. And he

me said that when I went to see to this Virgin of Guadalupe

he he how he in the like he said Paco the image

he for me that was a sign I was I'm put a

signal. He's a question. He's a He said, And he said, He said, Yes,

for the and he said he does like a a man, he had a form very

strange, he had like a rostro of an animal, it was a man, he said,

he said, look, what you do you, is that you're going to put this

this man, to the and the back, and the back to the house

and the three nights in one and three nights in another. What you going to do do you and here, the Riton

another way I'm going to say but he had to recollecting things like a hair, unas and over

all the prenda when you have passed the nights of the vallation you're going

in the prendah and you you're going to be you're going to look the the tomb

more and you you're going to you're You tell you I he

he put this mono the below of the his papa and the back

of his his abuel he was decided because he said Paco all the

nights of my house was to hear and and this yant

because I said I I used I was she I

didn't so that to trygarsel and He said, I had the age of confront to my father, but he had he had had so much fear. I said, I had a lot of fear.

He said, when his papa, he had him overnable. Yeah, I had 18 years, and I was I was trying to be or so. I mean, I had so he had so he did. He said that one day he was getting from the people,

and he encountered a his abuela, yorent. His mom, no, was dying, he was She was in a calliard. His papa, he had been

there he was his day he said I'm going to some he was he was

hebrached with the group of the group of and hebrus he started to have a

rose with a companyer said they said the other companyer had a

side his machete and he was with the life of his

father they He said that my tell that the abuela was for the child. There was in the

pistol. He had been a balled a little a brazo and here he had been the more

great. That's what he ranco the view. He said his mom the day of the

funeral of his father no, no deram no a but also

was like I'm like and my mom was talking with

all us his kids that she She didn't her, I mean,

I mean, that's the whole of the whole the time he was a whole, you know,

we know, not the back about the poor. And all the time he said, how do you do you do

do you do your chambacos are my niets, you know, you're not are my

nietons, and my mother, no said nothing, he said, and he said in his

mind, this lady also she had to go. And, and she It's supposed that in

some moment the woman was in a fog on doing the food and they're their

his brothers, he said that's gotcha and he goths and he just gotro

so it's so it's far foalminant and said I was I was always my mom

was there in a house that had had had had been the

house he he's paco we we've we're marvell

my my brothers said my my mother he regress the

my mother sonrella after many years nothing could be

bad it's not it's something that's very to be a mother

happy and see I never never I'm to say to

say and a day pass something he he

came to work when one of his one of his

he's Peter, you know, Mama is super grave what

pass. It's supposed that the woman was lavando in a

rio and a serpent in a bivora the pica. He

they're to get to the not they had the antidote

and the woman and the mother he doesn't he's how it

possible how it's a error in the ritual he he had

to put that the figure to the He's He's he's

a little the same his father also also he was he's

he he said for years I'm I'm I'm to get

to my myself to my mother not for my because for

years but in the I know that was for the man

I know that had been better what I

did or what I did he he He's

evidently that he took a great of that his mom also you say

a question for you there is a justification for him for me honestly no

because I think that I've had existed more alternatives but

that was that was what occurred when when there this class

of cases literally literally it's I don't put to this you know you can't do

the best that's what we're what we have to do if there if there things

there for to frener that not is to get a to someone there

there there are things that can do like a someone simply

for that not is doing and always it's it's not in communion

with the universe that's that's the person and the only

that is I can say it can't say I'm I'm I'm

to do to you to do to you to be so then

you you're you you're you also and another

other thing so is you're you're you know

so we're so so you same you almico you almical you almical

and you say you this what you're doing it's you're doing you're

on the consciousness human of this person on the part physical

for that part that's doing and to me never

has failed there there there there of the

and a sometimes the person no know because but it's

right and he and he I'm I'm I'm this history um

I'm did a much enoho much in potency and really is very sad and I

really would be there's there's there there many people there

are there are this but also just like you know

that they have much careful, I mean, you know, I've

got to a form and a formula impeccably correct. That is, it's,

I'll do in your hands, do it, and it can't be able to, so,

you're you're not can't with this, but you can't. Because this he did,

a final of the thing, was to manipulate an energy, but an energy

obscure, a energy denser. And we know, we've told, that many

these this type of or convenios, it's like a contract very magyz with letters little bit of

little bit of we'll see. And for that you pass, what you pass. And there's something

here I'm working in line direct. That line direct is line co-sanginia. Also, there are

certain rituals that are that they are to that the family, when it's like the

bula, the mother, the father, or the are done you

can't you can you can't and you do you do you say it's

a secret to say he's a same and then never

can't do you what you say for me 70 times seven

for you so you not you not so

the person person person he so so so

he's so of seeing any bad. All it's a

back. But it's your energy not the it's like it's like that you and you

do it all the thing, it's a way of saying, you know, you know,

you know, you know, you know, totally, and it's your own energy,

and it's very force yeah, there, 70 times seven. Seent times seven.

There's there. This is important because this is important, because I want to

me Scribe the conflict major that has been not is with your worst

enemy. Or maybe if your enemy is in the same same house. It's the

person. It's the prime. It's, even even the papa. So that's very

very. Very very but there's where it comes. Because

normally the things that are nother because things are

many sometimes therapeutic like the constellations family that

that you help to cut the lasses and help to repair the damage in generation

for that and you do you do you do that I've seen that I've seen that you've

seen that it's magic but not it is simply is to accommodate the family and

the order of the family and that's really there's all the people that's there's a information

really valuable that there a history that is a that has many years this situation

is in one of the pantions most emblematicos of the city of this

pantion he has the name of the bantion of Belen actually now

nocturnes nocturnes no there's no way you can enterer to someone

because it was the first pantion of Guadalajara so there

tombas antiquesimas. And the history that I want to talk to talk to the day

of the one of the stumbas most emblematic of this place. So,

it's like the tomb of Nachito. What is what is what is what's

this this new? This is a two hundred years, no,

let's let's putient. This This was a little, he was a age of the age of five and

seven years, and the history or the legend that's that he was a little

that all the nights had terrors nocturns and that had much

a much a fear to get to obscura so. So,

this this was a one of the families more adinerated

of the city of Guadalajara was the only son of

that family and then one night the mother and they're going to go to

a and the little he was he's he's he's he's

he he's but it's a family that was a good

but they're saying that he said that really they're in a

little rato and that they are going to and that he will

be good, that he's a lot of the the child

for a situation that no we that night there

a night there a storm and and it's

all the house of the mansion where he

was this the little the situation is so

traumatic and that this that's that's that is that

suffer an infartal of the terror that he caused

this situation. The little falle and well is a great

tragedy for the family obviously with a repentiment for

having let's but really not imagine the magnitude the the fear of this

the to get to the obscurity only without his

parents. It says they're they're to this and they

they're they're they the day the reason apparent

he the sepulturer and he says the family

and says that the fertro is the right

the parents was assusted, without what do you do with

this situation, then they're to have to be to be to make to make

a lot and then a ceremony and they they're light, bellators, in fin

he's a sacerdote nobody is that's that is

that's and then then, well, they they're they

then they're but at the morning again they they

this ferretro above. To not make so long the history still

occurring. After the parents understand that the fear that the

fear of the death still being being so that

is that the sun. After of this the parents

decided to build a a taut in the part

of the up, the canterer, and there is where is the little,

and you know they're about. Because they understand that what he was, he said,

was that he was that he was in the obscurity. But if this is a

very, so abrut to the other, and we're not really, what is the

is that is that it seems that this a new has been

a day is one of the other of the places most

visited where the people go and he offers

chocolates chocolates chocolates carrit and you get and

every six months they they they do the

tomb of all the things that the people

go and they they have converted as a

santo, no, santo, but in the people are the people still are living this and they're thinking, and there are people, and there are San-NATO has done to his children, that Nachito has done

miracles, and they're going and they are giving things. Now, we've been to investigate, and let me say, that's that have been got to capture

certain audios, where the the child, it's heard around the tomb for the

night, and this is a day you go you go and there's a day in specific.

The day you're doing, the carritos are to make to make, the

and then you're you're and then you're to get the and the

carlal the and normally the audio that's it's or is the

risa or you need something we're we're an investigation, where

clearly is the child saying, no, you know, you know, you know, so it's

super, super scalofriante and there have been a person that said, that has taken photos and

that the man, and that's in the part of or at or at the end

or they've like, like, and that's the time, this man, this is, this idea,

that's, It seems not to be that evidence that can't you know, that's you know,

that's I'm in the tomb. The evidence to the evidence, to the because I'm

to have to try to find to find out part of the investigation or the audios to send me

but it's something super super super-fart. A bit, here me generates much a,

one of a doubt because I know if you've heard has heard. It's supposed

that the children, and more in the age of Nachito, then they're to pass

direct to the sky. That's what is what is what is what is what I'm,

but I'm my criteria and I could think of these people, that they

they're that they do you do doffendas can also can create

an a grego. Sure, totally. So, it's literally another energy and occupa

all the energy that the people he's doing so fortalece because in your moment I had read that story

and I'm that's been I've been I've been I've been and I think I'm understood

that for example the pantheoneros of this place, and for them for them

is just a normal of going to in the tomb in the tubes? Yes, They say, is Nachito. There's a...

But you do they do with a... In some moment, a person who interviewed, a pontooner, and you know, with a naturality, like, like, oh, yeah, we'll hear. Yeah, it's got a lot. And the polo's to start to move, solo.

I go, it's a story that, honestly, as a father, me, me, me, me, because, I mean, so, poor-sito, I, of really, poor-sit-le-he-tied to

get a lot, the storm, the truenes, the torrents, the porin, the trens, a-a-s-l-s, to be-s, the strens, them,

the other the other imagine you a poor a

baby or a really, I'm really, me put very really

really really and the other part you what you

consider what is what is really he? Fidate that

the legend because is that is a legend the tomb

is like the but the story real says

that there is an Ignacio effectively entered but

that no of a child, although the ferretro that there in the tomb above is of a little it's like

so much so. Okay. So, I think, that's made what you have made, you know,

and has been so strong during that's been that's a fortlecated. And the the child

see, because me has been, it's like the time. Totally. Totally. Totally.

Totally. I mean, it's a thing. So, it's very curious, and it's really curious, and you doffrendas. Have you?

Have you been? Yes, but no, a conversation like you, we have been, that says to count that he says to know, that he said, to know,

he said in an occasion, what you doggia? And then he was over. And so, he's per die into the tubs. Wow.

So, normally a spirit, so, that you do you that time I'm I'm

I'm sure I'm I'm I'm trying I'm I'm I'm don't want to

I'm I'm don't want when someone when someone you say you know

to start because the majority of the people are the light and

that you do you do you do you do it so so it's to

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like, look, they're eating on the things, you're doing they're

like, and they they're they're they're flowers, vealas. It's

impressionant the cult that is he, yeah, is impressive. The people

really, it's really, it's like, he's just I've

read of a woman that I think had a cancer

and he was a tomb in a Chit Cinko and

he said Cureame and And a part of there, much people have been been asking things.

And literally, I don't officially, for the church, but for the people people, is San Nachito, practically. Wow.

Wow. Absolutely. What good legend. I'd like to agree to something that mentioned about

that's a rato, that's that they're that the kids don't because effectively,

well, they don't they're They're malice and transcendent immediately. But if there are situations that are ated to the spirit. For example, there are children who falles in knowing what is the death. No, they're no acercumment in their life.

Normally, in edas tempranas, your first acerment is that fallece your perrito, your gatito, or a mascot. And it's your asercamient when you start to understand what is the transcending. Okay. When the

child no know this process, they can the light and the light those are

not know that's that's so you have to explain that has to cross that

that has to continue. So, so there are cases, are many, are

so is certain. Because the Angel Guardian those helps much in

that process to crosser. But as all, is there

spirits that are still. Now, have much care. Because the phase favorite

of the malign to represent is precisely in an infante to gain your confidence and that

you can try to tryp you. I've said that person, for example, there's the

spirit of the man, of the woman, of the monja, the bigita, but when

you're the child, awas. Because that when when you You know, to mandartre to

another world, no? In many occasions, many occasions because just just like you know you

know, you know, you know, this sentiment of povertycito, not, something very very strong.

Fichtate, I, I want to ask you, you consideras that the medial of San Benito,

for example, can use for things bad? All symbol has a double

significated. And if you can't use, invertive. There's what you have that you have been

and much people never he never forget. Because I consider that's one

of the forms in how the maligno or the people with the person

can get more rapid because you see a virginita a San Juditas

a a manita San Benito and you you say oh it's that's that's of

no, I can have nothing mal. Grave error. There's a pantheonero that he'scribe. And me says that he still working actually in this

patio. And me he says that he's a family of pantoneers. And that's almost very common, no, of that my papa, the abuel, have been working a pantheon and now he's to call to the most young, no? And he,

all the life has been, well, very comod and quite accustomed to to work in a panion. Because he He accompanied a his papa, to his abuel, every

that one of the people, he had he would be to get the old to get

the attaute. So, a person that's a person that's a man, I never me did

me of the pandoor. I mean, I was when I was that I was we'd passable

for the stumbas, you know, to be getting a respect, not to not to

do this, but when when you're a kid, then he Well, it's grew all the time. So, no, he'd ever be able to do. Diceke, he's, he's, he's,

like, it's a little bit of the night, and it's still at the night, and it's too dark. And if you go, we're still, we're going to, and then it's, and then it's, and I,

I'm going to 10, 11 years, me going to come in, said, all the perimeter of the pantheon, he was caminand, he was chifland, never I've never, never

I've never nothing. After my almost 34 years he took to be a

he's he's he was he was his father he was a he's he's got

he's he's a lot of he's rather he's a first I'm he's he's

he's then, then, then he was going to more and more closer. He thought

that was he was in the car, or something. He's got to go to go to the pantheon.

Sal, he took a lantern, and like and he's a little to come to the pantheon.

No, be nothing. Except that that's at the final in a tomb, he says,

I do my recorried, I know perfectly everything, I did know that

the area around of that Tumba, was like removed, like when someone does a noyo and it's a little bit to tapar. So, it's,

it's, it's so much rar. But, well, no, no, no, no, nobody. Salo, and he went to get to his casette. At the day

the next, he was still, he was trying and I was, I was doing a television little I was a carnet,

that I'd just a two canals in black and black and another time I'm trying how something

it's across. In that point, I'm happy, I'm to go he no had a only had

his little bit of his and then he was a sometimes he was with his

he was he could like he could be to he was to the place he was

he was he made the attention because he was he was he was he was

he was he was he was to be he said me told me my my my apad

is that is that they're those brucos and enter things He said, but the fact, I said, no, maybe tomorrow,

I'll be. At the third day, he gets to get a idea of, you know, to go to use the pala and see what there. And he said that he was forgetting

until that he went to hear this noise, like that something to get a he says that he's a quick and he goes to

where he was to that tomb. He says that to the way, he something, he's a little and I want

to describe. He said Paco He was about 50 meters He was I'mochecing I saw Like a

like two meters but was encorvado He was So he was His hands had like In this

position And I had the hair black He said When I go Hey

Who I go Hey! Who can't This thing Brinked at And I know, yeah, I know what I, said. What the first

thought that was, it was like a person aghached. Yeah, then he said, it was like if it was a man, it was

something, it was something, and then it and the earth was removed. Dice at that hour, he's,

he felt it like a pico and he started in the earth, to scabar with his pala.

And he says that they're that much and nothing that of San Benito.

He he he he he he he could even he

he said he was like he was like automatically he said to be to be

so he did it so he did it so it's easy to get to

get her getting to his house he he's he gives he's

he says look my my man I'm look what he he's

look what you look at what you is a a nothing that

that's your two more is in the patio. But he's, oh,

he's, he's, what's, so, like, like in a pulcer,

he was to do in the muke to his his wife. There's

the disaster. He said that his wife to get to ,

like, in the the little those chupetone or moreettes,

says the first that the first that she was one she went,

she he sent to and he he saw the and she all done all of these manches moradas

and he still say he said that I did you do that so? No, no that no

that I don't know me can't and when he's he does know that also the

back and part of the arms was, it was was like like like

she, she he said he said he said like the like the defences

no no know going passing the days and

she she with these like moretones, but like, with little arunions.

And she said, but from where? She said, she'd be at the more

during, or in a night of passion, I mean, I don't I know,

but this was, but it's, because he said that after this, she

had to have a paralysis of a son, never had had to be

to say, let's say, he came the 20. Because he said, Oh, yeah, Fygette,

his husband, I've been a dream too. And the night that I'm

to be to be a lot of and I'm a lot of a person, to be a

little weird, he said, he was a car of but was a

great, it was a he's a he said, so, so he's, so, so,

so, so, so, so, he said, oh, me, my,

ma' present me a t' your polcerer, but I, I'm, I'm going to

I'll like to pull it I'm going and I'm and he he said he was

with this to the church he's not he was where he was like a

a recipient like with a said and so and so

and I'm and he said paco like I'm like

I'm I'm I'm I'm this there to this right

not not it like the like like that it's, but he said, but he's

like to a lot of like, like, like, it's like to get to get to get to

get a and over a bourbue and so, he said, I was like, and he was like,

and he was his wife he said, oh, when do you get to my polsera,

no, and he she had he had, and I'm what I'm, what I know,

and so to who he perteneene he says that one night after to think

much. He went to the pantheon in that same tomb as a time where he's

where he he's a time and he he says that he'll hear

he's this he's he's he's he's he back and

again when I know I'm he can't notar that this

thing he had like he was he was black all his whole

his all all all or a Pelo, like if it's

a perr. He said, I'm I'm going there to see, this

thing I've got to that I'm a little that you had done to be to be.

I'm never to see. To be say, I'm to say, I'm

that you're so, yeah, I'm a so I'm a said that's

me had been that I'm never, but I'm that was that thing and why

there a medal of San Benito? He says, I would imagine a Santa Mewartre, and I do with much respect

but it's what he mentioned, but why a medal of San Mitten? It's the first time that he said that for years,

he lived something you know, what do you think you? Well, that they're even of the objects

sacred, and you, you, a rato you said a rato, the the rituals

more are the different are those are the church or over

a church, or over a burla and there's a profanation and a and a sarcasm is it can't say ante,

and the protections. And for me, what there was a gawal. Is that me the thing of the Navuels

me fascina because it's so mysterious, so popular, but at the same time like no there's

like no there's there in all the world exist in the gawals. You're in the

Nawal? You're in the Nahuas? Fiatte that my Swoio, and I'll say is to introduce

in some a woman, a one, a lot, much people, I've said, I've been saying, I'm

invited, I'm saying, Paco, I'll tell you do it's so it's but really it's going to

do in their form human. And apart this, I'm just, and I'm I've got to to say, and

I've been to remarkarer, I'm I'm going to get to the person correct to to pay

money $100,000 $1,000, if I can't presensial a transformation. And I'll go back to answer, I need to

see that, for, I mean, to continue to, because I think, but at the same time, I go, but it's that's that's all the long as the story, and like, and like, you know, I'm going to, but again again, I'll know what,

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Okay, Okay, me It's very very Paca. Well, let me to share

a story more. This story is a first of a investigation

in the Pantion of Celaya. Yeah was in a independent.

In that then I had a camera a woman and

a company that co-conduct with me also also a

we decided interned in this cemetery and as you didn't we didn't even many

expectations but there had had been various people normally we're we're we're

we're and what we're what we're and so then they're they're they're

there's that there there somebers that something something that something we're

we're going we're we something that really is that is that

it's a a lot normally you know, you know, not calientes no, here it was

a lot that's, to have to be to be able to because it was impressive

but it was very very curious because you're you're you the

door of this panteon and it was to but in the part

of the you you was you're you So, if you said, well,

from there is, it's like a little, no, the story. Total, that when

the people that were the person who did the record, nobody's, nobody's he quix

to get, no, no, I said, I did the permission, but I, no,

no, no, no, then we're, so, then we're just the three

women solas, the that was the camera and the that co-conduced. In that then you

remember that the cameras no there were still even the microphones of the microphone like now we're not that's not

common as a camera. Yeah, it was the microphone of the camera. The camera with a camera

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almost of the panion I'm a tomb that was a monsoleo

enormous very beautiful to I would say that that

that has a place and I am so I'm full

of symbols masonics and then then It was the, the, of the maligno that we know

that we've been called always, of querns, this, the, a rostro, like, allarged,

the dents. So, I'm kept observing and I think, it's that this tomb is that ritualized. When,

the co-conductora starts to get to a way impressionant and I think, what you

say, me are they're doing with the microphone, not with the microphone, it was the

latigo, well, the cable literally they were they were going to then she she was

a sustadishima me avient the microphone and he says you know I still here I'm going to continue to

continue to I don't this is too for me and then I said you know

is that here there is that there is we're going to discover and not you're to start

I said, apart, if you want to go out, you'd have to come in until the entry, that not was a little, you solo. So, so, like, he said, no, what's a horror, go to there? No?

For this, it was very curious because you have to know that where we were going to be coming the carachas. But when

I'm going to do you know to do carachas, not you think three, four, Paco. So, I got a

point where there were, like the there's where

they put the and they were, they were they were five or six

cucarachas and they were to start by the cucutient but like

where we were going to get to that that that and you

do know that all around but they were respect

in the stuff they were not the cucarachas. It was rarestim. So,

she was like paniqueed, the cameraographer also, and apart, just in front, there was a tomb that had been said, that there had much manifestation.

This tomb was very peculiar because I had escalers, and you literally, you literally, backabas, what I'd say, well, I think, that at least one,

six meters, for the escalers. No, there no there's a two stumbas

something are there are connected not so they're but they're connected and they

said one here's the other the other the other the mausoleo no

there was there was but this we're we're we're we're

there can't in the part to the part of the

camera and so you hear also some ricits

like the little. I think something something not not quite

here. The place was full of these arraias and

the alacranes but not more the part of the bottom

then definitely here they're actually they're a very

very very to what I think they they were

to him for the work he he had

done in the Like the spirit, no, he could disrender and were, and

they offered children. Oh, no. They offered them. So, so, no see if

there was, like, tunnels, I said, we're, we're going, we're, we're going,

and we're in tumbas little, then I said, this has to be the relation. With the

other. To be how many, how many lives offer they're not

we know but also in that occasion she's this chick desporida

because we're we're and the animals there there's

there there there and we do we're doing the other

thing you can make because the fear not because

the fear because a sometimes the photos is where you can't get to

you know you know in photographs we started to take photographs and when we got

that night at the hotel what was being our surprise that in the windows are you

have that you know, let me looker and if I'm looking the investigation I said

this was it was at less after 15 16 years wow but

never never never has been never has been of the places more

and never I've never had talked in no other

because creme that they kept on one me kept without that

and the cameraographer also no, it was not do you don't so much

because it was impressive getting and still were the cameras first

that were that were still were digital but behittas and when we

when we came and we we're there in the ventions was

something impressive that I know I know to say to say if

really was the spirit because it's it's that it has been

that when those offender when those you atas yes

so or something. Is that the is that the other

a a demonia in special no the demon of the mosques the

moscas the pestilence Bels Belsue Fagate that Um,

I, I, I'm a bit of a bit of that's the way that's that I'm

a woman that said, oh, I don't go, I don't because if we

don't know, because we we're we're going to get a thing, and I'm the telephone.

The cameras, they're doing, but I did a exercise with a camera, I've got to get a camera digital

of these of 15 years for photo. No, I know why. No, I'm not going to I'm trying to understand why. But with those cameras it's more easy to capture

a phytas a spirit, that with the cellular, no see why. And more, still, I'll give another tip and they're more

more. A bit. The cameras that are those cameras that better to capture a evidence of phantasm

that's. It's that I always have said, something I'm in these cameras, no see, the lens,

the sensor, no, no, I know, maybe the of our cell phones, yes,

but, like you have to have been, but the other cameras, the little,

the little that's, you know, that's many people, with that there's, there's

that's surprise, that's something. Wow, what platic we've

of having a mya I want to thank you thank you a question how you

the time how you're very very well very me I'm going I'm

also thinking in the stories that you really really is a

world that no me never to because when

you you have seen all in those years

there are things more things and those we

love this this you want even you've addict to

the adrenaline so. So, my name your thank you first to all for accept

the invitation of the very aggrisied very honrated to have here in our students for

all the people who did you all the episode, for favor remember us our

social. I'm they're like Luisa Cardenas in all the

redes. Thank much thanks thank thank you thank you thank you

thank the audience to get to the I thank you much to to all the family of the podcast

that I think to get to the end of a good great a good and over the

thing that this practice not term in that this second part there's a story that's

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dot com mx if you atreves I'm there you see. Until the

the next I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm a question that for me

has been that put my life in risk. I'm going to do and this woman and she's like if he was giving a kind of an species of

an attack epileptic or like if was a convulsioning. She did a arc perfect like the gymnastas but without put the hands.

So, there you say humanly this not is possible. I can't to go, the the callpe was very struendos

and I do this and me taped the So, Cot, I'm still the cicatrice

and a stil and it's here. This this is the little

was the most dangerous. There's a vena. The vena.

One thing is to to other is to work work

and to get work spirit that don't pertenes to

help to help get to get to with entities

that so too, too, Baja.