EXTRA ANORMAL - Relatos Siniestros de Maleficios Vudú con Santiago Segovia

Episode Date: October 22, 2024

En este oscuro episodio de la Serie Octubre Siniestro de Extra Anormal Podcast, nos acompaña Santiago Segovia, quien nos trae relatos escalofriantes de maleficios vudú enviados por nuestra audiencia. A través de historias llenas de magia negra y rituales prohibidos, descubrirás cómo estos maleficios pueden cambiar la vida de las personas de manera aterradora. Acompáñanos y adéntrate en el misterioso y siniestro mundo del vudú, donde los maleficios no conocen límites. 🔔 Suscríbete y activa la campana para más relatos siniestros de la serie Octubre Siniestro. Canal de mi Invitado: ‪@RelatosconSantiagoSegovia‬

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He said, Santiago, I, you, I was roba those mortals. And me burlava of them. In those accidents, I was cut down the reloat. You now don't know what you're going to use. You know, you're going to know what hour is I said,

I said, I'm going to check out of the cartel and they're like, I'm going to make to make

a carne asada, you yeah no you're not you see. Dice, Santiago,

and believe that right me I repient no me don't me do you all those those

those those people, me, I tormentant. This man this man was a

and he said, me you've something, you did a promise you did

a pact with me you're going to you're going to get a baby and in that desperation

she she was the help the other person and this person

he said the the work he is very very really

particularly because that baby he has his aden

not only is too and he has the

to rebuttartartel. There's a form in that you can't liberate. You know, what is? Entregating your

life. Santiago, I'm going to the recamara and in the comedor was the light

the, the lights on the madrugated. Uh-huh. Not I'd say to say they were

to do you do that are doing the but in the madrugada and I see a woman

like dispeinada sentada in the mess the and is my husband. My

wife was doing fetish was doing monitos. But like if they were in trance. And he

says, what you're doing? He's she, she me the order. What I'm going to be a podcast extra abnormal. My name is Pacuarias and I'm very happy to be with all you guys.

Today, we're going to keep with October Sinistro. And, of really, today I'm happy for who we visit in our cabin of in our studio in Tuxtapet a person that all of you know a person that has

a grand trajectory as an investigator as a person that has been made a lot of his life

to do the phenomenon and that today is with us to talk about a time very interesting

and aterrador today me complase present to the sir Santiago Segovia. How

is San Diego? Much thanks, Paca for the invitation very honrado

that me has invited and you And I think I don't have words, how to thank you all this. But much more thanks for being in your

studios, to know these places. Very much. I'm really very, very a good. De Verat that my honor that has accepted the invitation to have been from

from Saltyo to Tuxpec. All this we do really, with all the love, with all the cario for all the

people who do you enjoy and obviously not could get out of this series because I you considero and I always

I've said and I don't obviously, of the best narrators of stories for normales. Much more

thanks. Thanks to you, to your auditorio, too, that are much. Yeah, and to do

your team of production, much of great. Perfect. Before, to start, I'd

like, for favor, for the people for the people who are the

other people, your social, projects that you have in Puerta. In all the platforms, I'm

like, I'm, so I'm Relatos for Santiago Segovia, there's a project that we're going to

start on the 31 October. Perfect. It's a serial of muneekas. Oh, very of stories of

you know, you know, that's always that's never to talk this type of of stories, but if

even the 31 October is it's there in all the platforms, there see us in Relatons for Santiago Segovia.

Thank you. Of actually, the family knows that the channel of Santiago we're going to find out of

the description of the episode for you go and you know the fantastic incredible work that's doing it.

I'm to pay with your videos and more a year and really, what quality of stories are

that you know, we've collaborated one once. Of course, if you not you've

seen that you've got to be this episode that is, but it's but it's in the city of Mexico

that we're that we're that you really us your experiences more furs that you've

lived in this And today, not will be the exception. Because today we're going to talk of a time, man, that there is a little,

when we're when we're in magic, occultism, echiceria. No, we can't pass for

alto, not mention the budu. That famous monequito that we've represented in caricatures, in movies,

in series, the mukeito yendo of alfilires, of clavos. What do you of that, you know,

These, those are malta magia very, very powerosas, very, very powerful. That simply, the fact I think, I think, to hear the word budu, this, yeah, you, yeah, in

hands of who I'm, what going to pass, no? For all the legends urban, what, as you know, we're going to we know in movies, I think that's something, well, now

so now, so, now say, words, the words of major, in this question, things very, very serious. And serious, I do you know, in the question of that can't be able to, now, so, with a person. Sure.

A me seems interesting much the thing of how liga one part of your essence to a little mucke. Exactly. It's been to many stories, tantos,

of people that have been for years, years, because the intention as, as a total of the budu, not is to stop rapid with you. It's a form cruel in the which you're going to

enter in a suffering continual, dolores of feet, dolors of spalda, dolores of cuellores of some part of your body,

even there was a person very close to me that had a detail in the feet, but she not he was described

as a She said that she'd and the morning, she'd up to the camera and

always, always, all parars, the description that she was, I feel like if some clavos

be in my plants of the feet, and every that I had to get to

my piece, I sentia how that penetrava the plant of the plant of the

pain. It was a A pain a woman a person that I know a person that I

know. A lot eventually in some moment he did a liberation, a liberation Christian

and was revealed the manoeoe that was in his own house, in his terrain, but

to me always I'm made fascinating because initially and that I was with various

friends that manage in the general paranormal, the budu in a

principle did it did to help the is something is something is a

more more than the times Biblical, where it's occupied a

representation physical, he's made of yerbats, made of palos, made of many things,

and, and, like, in that part of you, with that mouqueto that they

were to do you, but what cruel is that they're that they're doing to do you can't

do you. And it's for how is known to do in some moment, you have

passed that for the Yeah, fift that what you say

a sometimes the malddad human at times no doesn't do you

do you do you do you do you can't manipulate a person

with this this man or I can do now now now

so I'm and I want to know that before

was like like many many many question of

magic of magic magia Santa Morty that are those very

those occultes against the society because no you know is that I practice the santa

in the years 70s imagine you know well I've seen the case of a

master in those years when the masters there was there was no

there that they they had to do the things to do the

before you talk that came the people and they were

they said oh the those practice were like vacations and

they'd their drawings in this they're they're they're they're doing

with cera with colors with crayors of cera the those different so

so to pegals in the in the in the salon they used they're

Cera of Cate but but the Cere of Canteche also is used

for to make for the boudo okay and I have the my

a tia my that was a a market in the city Monterey

that so manage much type of gruegeria and he said, he said,

hey, he gottintas were and he don't know we're we're not we're

thinking, thinking he was a budu that's that I'm a bit of exactly.

Wow. A me is interesting Santiago because for example I, the people who the people who

consume the podcast know that they're not always and if you let give a

excuse, no we never we're we're there's a channel of exploration

where we have visited places when when we went of the friday, we're out of cameras, we're

we're not made, but hechos of prendas intimate. The most of the actual that I took over, was a mukechou that was made, like, with a rope interior of a woman, had a photo of a woman, and I had

a toadia sanitaria, and a lot of listones, of all, of the place, I pestered. Apeastable, a lot, to many, to, many things, of these essences, these

aromas that normally or usually, they're in these places, but all over tantos of burglary, we've got a lot of a person that when we went, is, when they're going to feel extraia the nose,

but after a little bit, they're going to get a little bit, but if they're in the head, after a hour, one hour and a half, it's normal, but it's, it's a restirming to all. Exactly. Fee, Fugate that that's

that you that's many many times me have to receive cases of people who

say, oh yeah we're we're in the recamara my spouse and I and it's

pleito and so I've said, I said in the sotea so

see that let's see see there's there there or rope

interior that simule a and that's in the sotea they're that are the

most effective that are Okay. So, where now now see the recamara

of that matrimonial that's pliress with some nudes or that rope interior

that simulan a muke is brujeria and they are very powerful because are over,

over, now, so, now, of these people, and various have seen

have found that people, that many people say, is that I had been that I said,

I was, someone, did it, did a nod with the he, Sure.

At times we we don't we talk about the importance or not know we're not because I want to start

to talk a story Santiago, it's called the Hurto. This story the parted

a woman that, oh, we're going to put her name of Cassandra. Why?

Because many times the people do these anecdotes from the sombra of anonymato

because what have been so that only they've what they are looking is

liberate of that Carga, and, at count it, they're that's been cut out of a cargues.

Cassandra in that's then was a young of 15 years. She lived in a colony Latina

of the United, and his life basically always was living with his mom and his brother,

because from a little, he's, he's a father. So, Cassandra

he found much a refuge in her mother, her his mom was, her

confident, her this place, all of different customs, rodeado of all,

she made a friend Victoria, and the two had something in common, because to

the two was the thing paranormal, but so that the two are those two

typical amyos of the okay, you know, you know, there's there's

there a town where they're and they used to collection cruces, velas,

clos, amuletos of different styles. There were moments where the two were sitting to see, they were

movies of terror. I mean a fission but very very strong to all the thing paranormal. What is curious

because in your Correo me said, it was the only, because my brother no, my mom

and my mom also. So I with Victoria always I found this this side

no, to be who really I'm really who is what I like what I like.

So, normally they were to this tinder to to buy. That tent never

to sell things new. It was a place. And she always used to look more more tethric

because they were more a repis and a rata of things. And then they had many things.

So, every that they had the opportunity to have a money to, then they

went and the two they'd to be, and I like, this, this, no, this, this

this, and all the time were they're buying things. In

an occasion that entered, they started to come in a little more to get a

door, the door, of where is the house of the person that's

and it and it's out of where they were at the stances, vion,

they were something that's something. It was a plana that was around

that was around, and in middle had a person was a person,

it was like a porroso, like a piece that was talled a

long time but I'm around around of the people. Cassandre Victoria said,

they said, this is the that we're we're what we're what cost.

The she says and the says, that's not to the vented. How?

Why? Ganyan us how is we're going to do we don't know to be to pay?

The two are in the place is because the fact to be something

that never had had a form defined like a moñica like a

like a cross but they're a simple a simple pietra with a rostro

with a different and they're very aterrador that we need to in the in the vitrina

in the vitrina no there for that for the other so then constantly they were

they were and they they were and they're going to when the when the bill

they said if they they're they're there's the one occasion, the two

thought a plan quite because cansadas and desperated of the negative of

this she said, well, you know, if you your Victoria you say you're saying

that's that's you're in what I enter and I go and I'm

gourtar. So, is the plan, get in the day, Victoria has

his part and get to the signora distracte in what Cassandra

camina so in silence he's he's he's he does the

signal and let us let's go out of the little bit because it was

the first that's something but they were they're feeling because

all fin they're something something that they're something when they

when they're when they they're they put in the camera and they

they're they they're they What is it? Why does it? Because it has like a rostro?

No, they're what's what I'm but at final of the count there's

and why not the person? The she said that no. But never he said

because it was a thing. It was something. The case is that when

they're basically Cassandra and he's to guard it out of

the view because said that in some moment the

I was going to get to go to get to get to and the people who

my more I'm going this so I'm yeah, and then he's

behind to get to get to get to that's the place. That's the place.

I was going to be that the people who know the people who know

to make it to get it to the world of the world of the world of the world of

your body enter in this has been something that you don't

have to you know, and she started to see a something when she started to

have a type of dreams, she started to describe that was a

little but not was a human was a body made of

so, so like had many he had a his

room and she was he was he was he said

devue what me pertinence. She had to get a

and I don't know why, but I felt the heart

very accelerated, it's really very nervous and in that

occasion when when she get to move the

armada and and he fell to get the one

of the one of the hands he had disprend of

the and other was he was so so

so he so he that he was going to to do that the day the next

he was going to he said he was going to put it with an adisive pegament conventional

and they did you know that it was not, not was functioning. They smearer in doing

to make the more normal but no. The dente was a form very rare because

no didn't any adisive something was maintained unied

to the the period and at the moment to get this like

this sluelt and makes that one totally is a different and another she gets

floho she feel because one, you know they're a sentiment

of the and have hurted and they had roto or something

they had they had much fear and and

that's even in some moment he got to

get to his mom and he said I'm come I'm

for the house and this to be to be he said

that someone he robbed a object that there. Dime if you

did you do you do you do you because this she's very

molest and he said all the lot of things but she

she I was really because practically the sentiment of

having done and have done he got to

have to get with the and say her

and say me I I I was this, no

I should do it. And the woman said, the she said, you know, I'm sorry

for your ignorance, but no see if my ancestors you're they're very celos

and not they're this that you did. I don't have problem.

You know, more she, she thought that she thought that after the

after the He was being to find the peace that that's that's

that's he's he's she's a little he's he's a little

but she said that one that one she said that that someone that I

had a walk in the school and I sentia the eyes of

something was very strange she she she gets to her

night she So, raeces, very rarrow, and this he said, me it's a incomplete. Now, I'll bea incomplete. And in the dream, I saw how this entity metia his hand, ramified to her boca,

and he'd rankable the dents to her. This was soignable. And she'd startable, and she'd bealtzed, because, well, practically, it was a dream, that I'd love to interpreter, a dream that, more than to soniard

is that type of that you see that is real that even in the same you know you know

something that's possible so you know there's possible. There's there's where you can't

feel a lot so she she was a very and said no

this not this not is this not not and decide the day next

to go to visit to her victory to to feel

and there and Camino at Casa of Victoria He does know

that there were a ambulance there was some there's what you see

his mom of her daughter and she and say what's what happened and they say

what you see that back a victory and they get in the ambulance what

what happened she resulta she she was to get to be to

get a and it's and he he So he was going to that he lost the

know of and when his mom going to see her was in the piece but there was

a charco enormous of the sandre the knowledge and it and they

they're they're two days and the gulf was brutal

he cost the life and she felt that

something that that that that Even when it was the day of to enterer to Victoria, they were all in the cemetery.

And she, yorandoled to her friend, was her her best friend, sentia that the world was to get in when she solyosable and she frotable when she was

a little borroso, he, he, he wrote, that figure made like of pales, like, of rams pared to

a one side of where they had been interrated to his a better friend. Obviously, this

she has impacta, and because obviously, one thing is to know something is to see it

in your world physical. And she understood what he said to that she said, but I

know what my ancestors can't make or you can be done for your ignorance.

Obviously, all this is very strange. She, she, all not to have

a hand of her see that her mom, it was going to happen to happen to something

because in the house where she lived with her, the environment was very very too, very

turbio, there were many discussions, no I saw what was what

was so in a moment they were in the house, was

her mom, we could have a brother, so on the telephone, he went to

his mom and he was in the movie with her and he they're in a station

of a police what Cassandra is that his mom started and said

he said how is my he result that the little

standing with his people a person with a person

from state of the car and he gets to

the banqueta and you envisted, Matanol to form immediate. She has

done that that that's not that really committed a grave error, go and

again with the she and he he says and he says for favor for favor,

yeah no I can't more, yeah no I'm the she never

to say the same I'm I don't do do anything because I don't

do you do you not I'm doing nothing but you met with

something that you know you know we need to give to God that's

that's the cause of the angustia of the son of his mother her mom

Camilla that's called the mom of Cassandra he started problems

heart hypertension and many different degenerative with the

past of the time his mom he a pire the

abla many many complications medics and And after 38 years, Cassandra, that was a young,

or she's a woman, she's, she's quite to her mom. And she finalized this story, saying,

one night, that'ser, he was he was to know for the last and me said,

your mom is the dente flojo that no's those that they were me those

I've got to tranquill. She understood the grave that had to be

that decision that took his adolescence. The dents that were the

lives that per die. The dente flojo. It was a

life that was an complete if we wanted to get to get to something

that's very interesting Bacqu this right that you're

that is that is that says regress me what is

me. I remember the case of a person that worked in a funerary like in Balzamador. Okay. But before I said in Balzamador, it was the carrosa, right?

That's the carous, and there's going to be here to be there in the Pantion of Santiago, there's Saltillo, a pantheon very antigo of the first stumbas, van exhumed the body of a senior

that yeah had like 50 years interrada. But, he said, oh, we're going to exhumar the

the, because we're going to we're going to get to the Pantion of the

Santa Christ. Okay. And resulta that they manned at the funeral area

to get that that's a translado but but but the the taud the

she had joys and there an inventory of how the quite the can't chadels

of what kylattage so it was an inventory of what the she

had so then then was a of the sona, a bisnieto of the son, a man, a young

this person, go and he says, well, we say, we're going to say, we're going to say, I'm a vis-a-wela, but, to be, saquen the at-a-ud and do-as-a-old. So, he, he's, yeah, the ta-ud

and desacientos, the humidity, all. The at-a-a-a-a-a-mad, imagine, you. Okay. Then, he, he, he starts, the, the hands

yeah escalatical of the isabwella and he he's to get to the joyas because to him

he was made to that he he recogier to get to get your visabuela this is the inventory

of the handions and the chruifices that he has the inventory that's the

anion of ruby there's the emeralds and so crucifix of gold and many lot of

this is no here here is here is you know you know So, so they were, right? So,

then the bidsnieto recoge that. I said, well, I'll go to get to my father, right? Like a type

herency, I think, between the brothers. Sure. So, then says, the funeral

me, and he said, and the attaute was all all the potridden, the humidity,

the tela. He said, it was and it's desasia. So, then they'd in the

side, and say, let it say, that's see, that's that's he's

three days with the sun that's seeke and then you're you're to

get to get to well it's that one of the one of the

sepulturero of the cemetery we're talking about the most the most

the most the result that the sepulturer well he's

going to get to the taub and he's a little a little

a little of a little oh car no he said but the

man the Mr. He went and he did the inventory

no he said this an issue he said he said he said he said

he said I'm going I'm going to get he he'll he he says

to his wife to make to be and he made it and he said

kettel he said ohie but this is good he says is it is of

it's of it's of not very ostentoso like those who they had

have been cuted to the vis-abweller. So, this is your and he said, and where did you do you? And he said, no, man, me he was a morrachito that for there, and he me he was sold in $100. But it's

good. So the she was, he, he kept to the perfection to the senior. And a part of that night, the she was parted first, that

I was sent to that someone was that waserrava in the recamara. And I'd start to say, oh, is that someone's

like, he's going to get to get to, like, we're going to get to here at the

house, a car, a lot of, says, is that I feel that someone

is here, say, parate and revisa. The sepulturero was up, checka, and no

had nobody. And yeah after the senior, there was a sombra of a woman that

was a man. He said, is that's a woman, yeah, I'm, he,

that no nobody woman. But, yeah, the she was even the day when the when the

sir was doing a woman not he had the rostro but he signalaba, he had

the hand like my anillo. Yes, reclam about what? Yes, reclamable

the he said, but she he was a man this calavereric imagine,

and the she was and the she was very assuptada. So, I'd

tell, how is the funeral area with the sepulturero well because

the sepultur he says oh yeah it's me makes that the biggien for your handi

for what is of what is of her now now how how I say me

let me let's imagine yeah after the tronka and then so

then then so then so then you know that's you know that's a thing that

the anino result was the boychit And I'm And I said, No, well,

I'm good I'm sorry I'm so I'm no, no, no, no, I'm in nothing,

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm to get to the wife, and say, well, be,

and give, and I'm this aniel to the man to that you don't you get us

in bronca so, and he said, and what he said, he's the power, and he was

he's, he's, he's, he's, oh, you know, you know, you know,

you're that's, that we summamos a person that we'll get us to we're going to do it in

the osario that they're to the header of the tumbas and he he says where is the

lot of the property of that that's she said let me you investigate and I quickly

and the system and all he said in that in this cemetery well there's the street

the soldier is known there's various and it's a cemetery very ancient also. He's a man, he's

in a tall call and talote the man was, the sepultorero was with the handiio he's a

pso there in the tomb he said he gave pardon to the sir and enterro the handiio

and they were the apparitions wow there's a there's when we visit us

places of explorations for very beautiful what is there or be there or is there

an dwean, exactly, he's a person, and there is a very respectuos

with the places where one enter, especially if are cemeterious, remember we are centers,

not, of the descanso for the almas, and many times, there are

people, those, those, people, with the, people, with us that I

have talked, people that's going to other world, but they have much

love for their things material, exactly. And actually, effectively

as, as you can't as the people like to them they'd they're

they're they're they're and marets, crows collars and the

fact of urtar or robar that type of things you

can cause a consequence if even even there even there even

there was a embalamator and say is that never you never you

never you robes a morto because this for the soul. If this

spirit, this soul like you want to say not tracient if he gets here, he's going

to look to look at what he pertainse. Fittgette, Paco, this, I remember

I of various stories already. Right. For example of a policeia. Of a

police he, he made a card and me said, Santiago, I,

I was he robbed to the mortals. And me burlava of them. In the accident, I was used to

you know you're not you're not you're not to know what is. So you yeah, you

yeah, it's so you do you're about, yeah, so yeah, it was check out of the carter and let's get a

carter and let's you know, man, you're going to be a carne asada, you yeah no I'm sorry me that I repient no me

don't make dormit all those those me atormendant. And I want to you know that you can't pass many years. Yes, exactly. And I'll say that police. And he said, he said, he said, he said, in that card that he

sent me sent me. No, it was a callada, or no message. It was a card that they left in the station of radio. And you know, says, you know, I said, I said, I'll tell you. I'll tell you, I said, yeah, I paid, pardon. And, and, figg, he said, he was, he was a case. I was a

man of 65 years. Okay. He, de little, he lived in a sector of the city where there were many accidents.

And, and you know, there are people that say, here, minimum, a trailer is a

little bit to see, to see, to get, and let's robes. That's the pinia, no? Exactly.

Well, in that there were some curves. There are exist in those curbs, but until they're very dangerous

those curbs. He said Santiago. There was an accident, and my papa me despertable. I was, I was

a chiquel. He'd nine years. And in instead of, Papa, why not we those

help us no, you quittal what they try me. Dice, Santiago, the person

saying, help me, help me, talk to an ambulance I, I'd trussed his,

his carterer, he'd rovado. He said, but because my father me said, I said the example.

Yes, exactly. He said, he said, I'm nine years, Santiago. He said,

I'm 65 years, and no night, that no soen with those rosters,

that me had help, that me had an help, and I'm in instead to help

them, he, he, what they they'd do you, imagine. Imagineate.

For so what you well you say, they say, they say, they're reclimate.

So, they can be possessive of a house, of an object, or of

a person. Because I know the case also of a matrimonial. I've knew the

case of a matrimon. They're young, they're there. The Limites

of Kauwila is called Chimica of the Re. In those years, in train

they were two hours from Chimica of the capital of the state of Kuahua.

And he casa, this much a Maria Teresa, he's a very

young and the husband also very young, the office trailero. That's

a new business family. Yeah. And you have heard many times that

the people presenten their death. And they say, oh, and is that

he's to start to do me. Yeah. I'm me he got to

you. That's a mystery, but if is real. Exactly. The people

know when they're going to and then they say, to her, he said,

Jure me, he's been embarrassedada. He's, jure me that if I'm I'm, you're going

to go back to get a and she and she's like, like when he's a chabbo,

we're always we want to get to get to be abasas and that and that

we're going to live many years and we we're going to be so he. Well,

he said he said, you're you're like, you're you're not Jure me. And yeah,

she, because I I've played with with her, yeah, for you know, yeah, not I'm

like putting a barrel, and it's, it's not I'm going to go to go to get a

and a last time, he's a man, he's, young, young, young,

he had, he had, he had, he had, I think, 17. Chavitos. Then she

come in to Saltyio, and, well, has a, he, Very young, she and very, very, very wapa, she,

and he went to her life, he'll go back, she casser. Something very obvious. Yeah, but after, yeah, of various years, I think

15 years after, more than less or less or less. Yeah, that's if he went to, a good rato. Exactly. So, so,

so, so, he was a complex automotris, there in Saltillo, well, no, they did the, the,

the, the, for the, for the post that he had, I mean, so not so it was so easy to give me a summer, no, no.

So, so just just the end of the same of his husband, the husband, the transport pass away to a quadra of his

house. So he said, you know, I'm going to to work. He had a Monday, he'd be in a house

a Saturday, and the Monday, he went to work. She went to a rato that they

can't in the camera and they're and they're and I said, he goes, he passed

the Camion. So, so, it's a car to Cesar.

And he said she he passed the carol and he said, and more

he was, he was he put him, Cesar, I'm saying,

Cesar, so you pass the car so the car, no didn't have

no response. And yeah the third she was she was talking,

so he was talking, no, there nobody. Wow. She, she was

with his first sposo. Yes. So, so, your first love? No.

So, so I go, they go, they're possessive, even a person, of a house, of an object. There's a

person that one once me said, I'm much care, with what you're going to what you

promise, there are people, so rapidissimo, before to tell you a story that's very

good, to say, to his abuel, Abolito, when you you're I need to you need to

me des a signal that you come to see me to know to know

that's that's for a father, abelito let me that when you're

you're going you you're going so then so so it was

the abel partio and that was when so when was

when the When the abuelo parted, has been many years, yeah not a little a woman, he's a

old age, almost 90 years. And, obviously, it's a a lot very strong, the start

in duels, the time to be the time of a mother of a man, and a night,

a night, was in his car, but I said, a light, like if the sun would be

out of your ventana, so, direct. All the, all the quarter is illumine. And I'm and I'm

and I'm and I'm going to be entering by the door of the room, my abuel, and get to my

abuel, but at the first I did much fear, because my abel is that

my abel so, and is that you know, it's that was a phantasm, it was a person, it's

he's a he says, I'm, I'm come to come to my promise,

and see, exist life after the death. And yeah, she despise,

I'm, Cuehate much, a encounter very beautiful. And she does a and she does

know that his rostro was inchated, his eyes is like when you're so when you do you're crying

and the eyes all the eyes all right, and he said, oh, what I, what I'm,

so I'm, sooo that's so so beautiful, the sunial with my an abuel, ferecilled

and no what's the so you know, he went to go to the kitchen to see, to be in

his mom there's a little bit of the time. Oh, no manches, how many, you know,

manches, how many, you're doing the light of the that's, that's not dormiste or

what? That's what for her was a dream, no, it really took the

visit of a person carey. And right we're that we're talking about of

a question, I'm to ask a question, you what you think

that can get to represent the suns? Premonitions, representations of your

life, simply nothing, there insecurities, what can be a dream?

Well, I always I've said that is a reflex of what of the

preoccupations of the the pesadillas because serve to serve

to give to liberate pressions even that you You just, you say, it was a

it's a little bit of a little bit. I say, it's a, it's a reality. And I, much times the people have asked, Paco, about some of the dreams, and I want to know that there's

cases that I've said to the person, I go, is that you have there the response. Sure. And he's, but how, Santiago? Fidate,

me, I said a young, Santiago, my mom has been a month that fellio, and I'm so I'm so I'm much.

I go, what you what you say? What is the scene? Where does it? Where does it? He said, I go in my house. And you know, and he says, what is what you say? Why are you? And I said, you know, you know, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm going to

the house, he said. I mean, he said, yeah we don't know. I said, well, you know, why are you? So, I don't know. I said, why are you? I'm saying, if I don't know. Fidate, that one has me took a case, Paco, this of the suey. Because Because many a person,

these people, these people, they're and transmit messages. Exactly. A through the

through the time. Exactly. I mean, a woman. A manor, a man. A man,

she was a colony, and you know, many times there's a, there was, there was a

man who had a time, she was very serious. The senior, the she was involved to be

with the person, she, yeah, we've got to get to the Zumba, we're

to go, and she yeah, she's always very, very, very de hogar, the sir.

He said, and Santiago, I went to the time, and I'm just good days, good tars, and I was

to buy what not had to buy in the dispense in the super. Oh, I don't I'm going

to go to the store. And she a man, and me a day, I'm a day,

he said, Santiago, I've had to be the time, but I'm with him no more,

good days, good times, no more, and me and I'm to tell that he

and I know, what he said, that said, you know, that the, that the

money is in the boat that's that's in the tent, that he's to pay the funeral.

What I do, Santiago? I go, go, I'll say, let me, say, but why I,

if I, I don't have a relationship like, how is, I don't know, I don't know,

I'm, I'm, I'm, says, how is that this, Santiago? Imagine

that an woman of the husband with those that's with the son to

your husband he's not you're going like I'm like sure but you say you're but you're

a vecina a resident that's a resident that's a resident of a respect

to you to you do you do you that's that's that's the next

the Monday he said Santiago I'm with the town and I'm and I'm I'm talking

to you and you said you me There was the Dinole. He said, and he was to pay

the funeral. Wow. A few I've been many times, there have been that the ones are

more, no, than a reflection of our subconscious I want to tell you, the story of Rosalva.

Rosalva Rosalva, well, I would like, I'd like to say that she that you

want to say because me refer to me would have liked that

she had that she was a very adolescent he had a dream very

recurrent her suing she was a a she she

was she was in a little a with the walls

of umed but there was a very very very

disagradable very putrefate she she she was she

was in the little light only what was the light

as like the of the windows that are the light that was the light that's

the light that's a lot of the water, water sucea, but it was very bad. There was a

courtina like a little bit of an entry but with an entry but with a little

and he had to come in and he said that every every time that the cartina made of the

cartina made of the actually were some those And in When she Passed

and opened the windows to enter These these

and they had manches of sand in the arms all

they were they're humed it's blood like they said

fresh As cross to another I saw a

baby that was a back and this baby

was in the baby a baby and around of this

baby be things like toys cunas a lot of things.

And every that she was trying to get to be a little not had a sensation

to be a bit, but a sensation of the and she was a little bit

and he could and he was and he was for many years in her

adolescence Rosalva took this pesadilla he I'm a moment

where he's he's a Edson that is his Prometito

and he He commented that for much years she was she was I'm trying to this baby,

this quarter of a little old old and the cartina of the hair and

I don't know why and I said if my mom was here she could say me

that she would say her his mom at the 18 years so then so

practically pass the time and she she comes with Xon they're

a making a a matrimon and they when come in the 30

years of age, it was beautiful, no, color rosas, the matrimon young and

got a really bad. Like all matrimonio, after to be able to get embalasasasas

they were in the they were and not they, and they didn't, and not they're

to get to the medical, they're to be a series of processes very costosos

and very doloros is what the person that the person that And, well, practically, the mal-notice came.

And resulta that Rosalva no could have children. She was the problem in her organism, what which impeded that could conceive a baby. This, the inunded of much a lot of a lot of stances, thinking that in some

moment, his promontid, his husband, was, let me be for someone that if he could give a family, because he was a man that really really

he really a family. So the news was very hard for them even after after they're

even after this news Edson was very positive and he says, no you don't you

know those processes, the technology the science is advancing you don't you don't be very

positive but really was much a lot of money because they paid medics

and no they'd do they never is the truth that's started to invade

to get a Rosalva because he did of that for much that

they were not they were not they're not they're they're

not in this this mode they're intensified because now in

her she was in this court was was in a

room but was the same room dark the same

one the room and she was she there

had many there there had a but those

babies, no they were in rosthro. I'm gateing, they were and they're

and they're when I want to see them she had a question that they had a

face. It was a face, it was a face, and nose, and I

had been to see a sensation like a feeling between his

and when she looked to his part intimate, he had a question

that between the the Pyrnus, there was a charco grand

of the same that she was in a thing, I'm that she was a

very alterated and I'm in this trance of when the heart is that the

heart and he said, what's my love, he said, and again I'm there's a

time, and I'm going to talk to all. Edson said that his her husband really could generate in

some moment, some problem psychological a cause of what was living and it was easy contact to a woman of her mom of her husband, a tia practically. And it's when they're when they're with this tia.

When they're cited to talk to her, it's a mother, practically. And they're going to tell her what is living, Rosalva. When she asks to that

he kept called. Solom only he said to pray for Osalva

or pray they're in God prays, pray for her because he's

a traveling something he said he said nothing more. Well, they're

still with their normal working but it was evident that there

a problem that affected all there there moments

where there questions of the work and the day of day day, it's all you know, but there

a moment where the reality gets, and you get a ball of the water free

and you know that there's a problem. The P.C. a day and one a day,

one of something, that for her was a very sinister. She was that

was just in the same quarter, obscure, in charred, and charred. Nowament

see the baby the other side of the room another once pass the cartina

of the door to make to make a manch of sand and this

this he could carry the baby and here here there

is a very very tetric when she when she and

he looks to look to the baby had the rostro of his

mom a a rostro a person great an an

an but no let's and this baby he said something that

really he's he said pardon me but I have to do it I've got to

do you do it and she did know that when other look

to see that the those that that were that

were they were they were they were those these they

they were they She's dispirited of that dream, normally very alterated. But this

this time was something very different because the impression was more. The gritty was more

the feeling of fear. In this time, that was the matrimony was still a more.

Edson is a question that's really to be really affronting a problem

very great. He intents to look a medical psychological and

regressan another other other to talk with the Tia of this

woman for that they're a little because it was that the first

there was something she she said. She said, she was what was the

she was the she was a quiet a silence for a rato

and he said he said some words between when susurras

something said is that they need they they need they What we need to be?

What we need to be? And it's when she told something very very strong. She said, I mean, your mom

no could have children. You were a miracle, or at least that we're we all the

mom no could have children and in one occasion after had to have to

have to know we he said he because there was a person

in the people that was a master budu and she went

to look and he he said I don't have I don't have me

this this man he said he said but there two conditions

which the signora was that the Creatura was of my lineage

and that my same practices if no no when he said

that he was insinuando that he was going to be the pal

she she trying to have a child after after

had been been been being sterile, acced. It's a process where she has a process where she goes, and this is

to tell to her, to her mother, to the tia, and he to tell that it was a process very, very extrano, because the cita in her recinto and the custer, and he starts to rocear of herbs, but, before

of all, the desnuda, and he's to roce her herbs and he'd say a type of oration more

or less like um to start to do she was she had

much fear she was she was preparing for the act sexual

after to do do make the work and

a and a time the she was a unbarasada. A miracle.

Had you been a badgered. But the lady was never disposed to that her daughter stills his own practices. And if he

did it easy, to take a baby, go to get there. This man,

he was in dreams and he said, me, I did something, you did a

promise, you did a pact with me. you're going to you're going to that baby and in that

desperation she used the help the other person and he said there there's a

person that's he said he said and this person he said the

the job that this he's very very very particularly because

that baby he has a DNA not only is too and

he has of the power to rebatartartel. There's a form in that you can you

can't you know, you know, and then you're giving your life for the of your

and to and at the 18 years that your child you you tendrass

to and she will have to the same the same the same

you for the which no could have kids. When Rosalva is to enter

of all, of what did her mom, of why falle when she had had 18 years and

why she started to have this dream, he was the message. It was clear. She was

was paying a consequence of her own own her own. To have done a desperation.

After that this Tia, he said, he confies to all. This story

terminate with the words of Edson Edson was his husband and he said the state anymical of my

woman with his state of the health started to get to see a

my wife all the time sitting in the room looking

outside where the children and I didn't I'm

I'm never nothing with the only wanted to be sitting

in the salah, mirrored to go to work, I came to work,

and I'm to come to get to her, but lamentably the depression and the

angustia terminated with the life of my wife. That story that

parted Edson, his husband, that he took to know to know

to this past that they were nobios until that she parted

of this memory. Gait that Ficked that, Paco, this of the of the pactos, many times,

we think we have to do a grand ritual, veasas negras, three of the morning. Much of times, no, many times it's a lot and the mal

is in many forms. I remember the case of a young, Veronica, she, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's,

she's, me says, Santiago, my spouse she's comporta very well. And for the details that she had made, I said, is that this me,

he said, because she said that they were very distinct. That she, for example, if they were to the

camera, they'd, oh, well, we're not going to talk, the work, how was she,

we're not, we, we didn't, and I, saw, a minute, I was that always

we always we're so when you know a little that you have you get to

you're in you're and you get used well she she's well she said

she she said and she and her and her and so she was so

and she she said she'd and he said I want to talk with you I'm

we're we're we're going to we're not you have been

you've said fiat he said with with me you don't

And so, wow. And so, and so say, yeah, doormete, yeah, yeah, doormete. But a sometimes, the husband, the

husband, like, he had a spurted, because the husband, like, he said, no, you know, to get us with her, to let's, to her, to, her, to have

to have a baby, a little, a little, a little, and I said, is that this, you know, is that this,

you know, me wwele to a pact, he said, well, my husband did a

pacto when was a young to have a perfect. And he had a

person perfect. The husband had had had been a matrimonio

and I had two two nine, one of six and one of four years.

And she said the children came in Santiago 15 days. Yeah.

That he took about or I was I was really. The And the kids me

care much, yeah they were to know to their little and she's

I always inculke that was her her manita and then then they didn't

not come the kids. Yeah no they're so in one

I don't go to the house is that we're we're that we know?

So, how they're to do? To you what? What's what does his father?

And Santiago I I don't I didn't that I never that I was

they pegs it's that when we're we're not we're we're

we're coming for the passio but like if it was a perro camin about

so in four patas the the man and let's go to

go to the house of his father because he he said

he said he in the in those words torturators he he said

is that you don't you let's So, I was the, through the pacto, they're going to accrued a factura of these people, they're going to be able to who who are, so.

So, so, a through this, of this, of pactors, me accorded, and also me I accorded, Paco, of a case of, of, of, the mukees. Uff, the mukees. And, of, and of,

and of, and, of, and, and, this man, is infiel to the spouse. he had three kids adolescents we've got to preparatory

secondary and primary says Santiago I'm always I'm always I'm always you know

confunded the passion with the true no is that I'm I'm going to my

life and he's he's he's he said I'm I'm I'm

like four months my house but I but I still but I'm still

I'm I'm I was I was And at the end I do you know, that no, that not my real love, that my real love was my wife, my wife, my wife, my wife, was my wife, my

wife, my spouse, my his wife. He's he regress to his house. He said, he'll give a pardon to the lady, and, well, regressa. And pass,

pass, in two, three times, and I saw that his wife, like, he had a, like, so I'm a, like, I'm, that was that I'm

a woman, I was a woman here at the feet of the camera and me say that I

need to where my mother her mom she's she's what she's what I'm

and he he's no, well you know you know it's that you're so me

so I'm that's that you know that's you know when I'm that you

said it's that's so you're very very so you're very so

then you're then you're then you then you're no, then the then the woman

and the woman despertable and he Here is the woman. I was seeing the

Yeah, she was at the feet of the camera. Wow. And he said,

Santiago, in an occasion I do I see in the camera? Of those rareas

that not was that was a time rarestable that he he was he was

he was in the bad, he said in the man, oh, car, and where

is that Santiago, I'm of the recamara and in the comedor daba the the light

the lights the lights in the madrugated I would say it was they were doing the

but in the madrugada he said and I see a woman like dispeinada

sated in the mess said no Santiago I'm I'm

I'm on the and is my husband my my spouse was

was doing fetiche was doing monitos but like if

were in trance the husband, like if were in a trance and he

says, what you're doing? It's that she she me the manipulation. The manipulation. The manipulation.

That's we're right. Sure. The end of it. Exactly. And he says

she she me the order. Who can you do a woman? She says she,

Santiago, my wife never knew a man never never knew the house where I

lived, nothing. I just just, no more because I went to to live

with a woman, but no more. says that she me He'll order. Who me he'll order them?

He said, that woman. And, he said, and he He said, and he set off the closet, Santiago, like, eight monitos that he had done. Oh, yeah.

So, I was co-sia. So, all, those, it was re-enable, he said, and it was co-sia. That the woman, and the

woman, and certainly were in the plenters of her. So, he said, well, he was, he said, no, we're going

to go, we're going to do, we're going, we're going, and then, no, no, no, you know, because,

you know, that I was that I've had a dream and I see a house I'm a matter of the

you know there's a important I'm going to be abadir yeah yeah says

I'm a house said me described the house where I didn't know

without without without and the and the she and the final

I'm a bird I'm actually there's actually there

was a man said but but I'm to be a you called

of that there is where the sir, you know, all right. All right. All right.

All right. I'm going to finish. As she, I'm a bigance. And for a pronto,

he's a help. Because he said the relation, I don't know what he promised you.

No. So, you know, you're just with the sentiments of that woman. And,

and so he was he was a question of the question of magic to be

to be Wow. So, he, says, Santiago, as he, as he did a fear,

well, he asked a help with a woman. And he said, the lady, I'll help you,

I'm going to help. He said, but time they will be to be front to that

and so you get to. They're confronted. They're they're, they're but

unfortunately, Santiago, with what he has helped the person, we're saying,

but imagineate how, how the manipulation of those fetches, What was the fin

of those, of those muckees that was doing this woman? A lot of not I'm to end up

with all the family. Sure. If they were many, no. What, what I

know what is, I mean, evidently there's a sentiment of vengeance for the two, for

the two, for her for her, for him for him for him for to have played,

but, but if they had more family, so, where it aback the maldad,

to where it's the desire to to to be able with someone that's not you

don't have only all the people that he he wants, or appreciate or a

and say no, no, me base with him, he goes to my mom,

pap, my, my, my, children, and I make, so I'm

something, because there's a something there's a thing you, so, no

you know, what type of person is, maybe, I mean, in the enomomomomomomom He says, he, he

he said, he said, he said, he said, he'll know, he's got to be the realer of his life really is with his wife and his his son, no? But the fact of having juged... I don't, I don't... I think that no, I don't know. I think

that no, he said, he's created the mentira, but he did a point of that was, it was, it's what I'm saying, that much times confunded the passion with the love, that says, encounter the love of my life, no, and say, well,

you like the person you like the how does the how does the how does it but that you say that

that's the love of your life that's exactly and with this Santiago

I want to this this third story that I think I think many

to find to a a person that you know that is like the person

that I describe this this story is my my company

of my company Here, I'm going to tell the history of Eric. Eric, he had a reputation in his job in the officeine that he himself

not he had the companyer, that was known for being irresponsible, for faulted to work every that he had a week,

he'd say, you know, he'd be a hardissim, he'd, or ebri, or crudo, as he'd

like he knows with the resaca, I mean, exactly. I was, I was a person that, to really,

all the companions and even an apodo because he was he was

very irresponsible but he was a very strange and from and from the

company obviously as being an element so we go on us to but

it's a very but when you were to after

he before that before they were to and

they had they He, I knew that they were to give them to get them to get them to the examines,

and he'd have selected one, and always when you were to go to work, in the day one, the

person yeah no was presentable. For what Eric, he was in his post. And so

no passed one one way. Passed many times. And all the companions said, what are

what is what's happening with him? What? What What happens with him? Always He's always

Always but it's always that not only it was not only because his life

was very miserable. He was miserable in all aspect and he'd recurre to alcohol

to forget to do all the bad. In an occasion one

morning there there was a friend of Eric that's called

Victor and he saw he he he he's met

the hands to the and when very rare. No, he knew form, but he had like pelittos and so so he saw that Eric, he got her, so like very nervous, he

and he said, he says, what is that? No, no, no, it's nothing, no, no, it's nothing. But, well, Victor, he told to all the companions, that Eric, well, it was very rare, because cargave things, like, like, or, like, said the people, but not they didn't know why. And then, and then, Manuel, that was one of his friends, of Eric,

see you know that in the almasen also at the moment to

want to pay his food when he met in the man

over to his carter he was he something

he he he he described like a pate

and those black and the rogos and he had like

a symbol rar but always that he was

he was he was he the Well, that not

that was even. Incluso they were to think that this type like they

had to his own his own so they're but I'll say something,

not they know, not even to know what really what really happened.

In one on Manuel, that was his friend, his

friend he did know that he he started a salpoo in his

hand. A salpullid are like little granitos erucions in his

hand. Aalergy. Aalier in the palma here in the part of the upper

he came for the brazo and like he was going to be more and this

like he started like when they'd get a madura and it was to

get used and he was a something really and emmanable an smell

a lot very emmannable Eric if for si his companions

you have idea of oh yeah I'm don't he don't he don't he

don't he And still, oh, it wele mal, but Manuel was his friend. And he said, what is, you're doing,

you're doing all the time is very rare, very disorbitated. And Eric, unicably back the look at the

and he said, I'm going. In one occasion, for the thing, the company he's made

to a house, a little to be able, and is where Manuel, his friend to go,

what's what's going with Eric? How is? He was to visit him, and when he opened the door, he had found that Eric was very bad. In a little time, he had gone much of the peso.

He was very delgado, very demacredo. So, he entombed much of the sojera, here the muscles of, like when they're saying that you're chuping, the salpullied in his man, in his brazo. Very bad. And he said, Amigo, what you've,

you've been to the doctor? And he said, Yeah, I'm but no, no, they're not just you're going to

say a little. If you believe in God, take me present in your orations,

because I don't I want to. Manuel is and he gets very confused,

trying to understand what's what's what's what's he? He's,

hey, what is that's that object that you can't, and is where

Eric he said a very very very and he he said

he said I live with a woman before to enter to to work

to a londra but something that she she she

she had she had practices very that I didn't

me I'm cuted cut and I'm I sometimes

I found that I felt a proper interior of

my cajons for this, I have to say something, Eric, he was an a man a post.

A man very attractive. So, he catched to Alondra many times doing things very raras.

So, he's made easy to terminate his relation. The problem soced almost like the story

that you us told us allondra not was the only person that practicable this type of magic.

His papa and her and her and she she has with them and is when his

father he's that they're trying to his his wife and he he said

I'm I'm going to be to be to make to be to be to be

to suffer well he he was a kind of

a kind of and he decided to cut a

lot block those to get to get a new

life that is when he enter to the fabric but a from there

he said that his life started he's all but for a strange

reason no no no not she had a accident

and he was and fracturable but not he and record

the words not you you you're to you're to

so you then so this this friend when

he goes to he said Eric. And he started to talk to her husband and, look at her and he's to see, he went to this. And it's when

the husband of Manuel he said, hey, why not we've got him with Don Ponciano? Don Ponciano, was a person that realized a limpia, and he was a person major, 60-tantos

years, and was, he was was very known for to help us. And they're saying, look at least, look at Yeah, in the Colonia, there's a man, so, and so, and he could

help. And Eric, he said, you know, I waske one of his help. No,

me put you know, but you're making have faith, me make think in that I

can't get to this, and they're with Don Ponciano. When they're

to get a Eric, Don Ponciano with a look, in peace, very harmonious,

very Ah, I, I think they're interrathered. They're doing a

day. What you did you is a work very very very.

So, I'm I'm going to cost much a much work. In

that then, Erie accepted the help. He says, how I

do you want to give, how I'm to pay. And this

sir he said, I just I do you and I we've survived

to this for me is a ganace but I can't see a a son

to do you do you like what you are doing in this moment Eric's to get to

a series of limpeas furs circles of fire herbs a lot of things

they were to start in the court of Don Ponciano not was one, it was

many times that it was but But it was that every that Eric

he was out of a session this sir was more more agotado

he started to get to get a very very bad because the manned a suddit

and he said he we know we're I'm sorry the next the next summer

but I was like yeah no he no could yeah in one

occasion Eric was he was in his visit Manuel his

friend and he still living infirm He says What's the I'm going to

We're going to get to Don Ponciano For this I've been They're going to Go ahead To get a

What's going to Because no Surge Infecto what he's What's What's And it's

When Mano He's To find To find To be To be To be

He's He's He's out of his He's Go back to see,

I'm going to see When he's When he's My Papa He says, my days

that he fell he my father he got

to do and I know I'm he know we know

we remember the he said he he my ganance

was that you and we do we don't

know what was that was that was that

and this story not the man Eric the

man man man man his his his his

his his his and he said encountered a Don Ponciano in his

camera with the eyes aborted his rostro his reaction

that was marked in his murder was a face

of terror his actions were so his language

was of and and lamentable and Eric still

he still still still but still suffering. This is one of the

I get with the title of I need to I need to help for my friend.

And is where he's where he tells all the history of Eric since he's

when he starts he has to know or to not to this essence

mal that he carga yeah what what She said, the gancance is the manse is the

sir, right? A ponciano. Much of the end up frontars somebody did some mal and you go's with someone

that's a realer a brute who is a war, and it's a power of power and every one has his and they say oh, if I

can't with him, no I'm talked to cases of that have been to have to have been to have

a mother of Claudia, a brute a girl, she, she had had to come because

the The mom of a man of a man of a man of a child of an exendado and the

assentado contract a and he said no, I'm, I'm going to and the assentado

and he said no, but be with your, bet with your family also and is when

the children let them to talk to the mom of Claudia. He said Santiago I'm

I've got to go to Guadalajara I said and the woman and I saw who

and said that he was going to put to me and said Santiago one was to believe we're going to

we're saying we're vowing to this woman and said I've I've seen many

letchusas up of the house yeah the auto so that's so so that

that woman demonstrating the power that was wow and you I think many

sometimes the mald that is what about back back a moment the

I I've known the case of a young that many

times in the bruchery says, oh yeah he's done. No,

but I want more that's that's exactly. Exactly. Yeah, I'm

I'm not so, and you know, like you see, you know, you know, you know,

I know, I know, a child all of the whole, his life student, a,

sportista, but never he was with novias, no novias.

He Faulted that part And not because it was so feo, no, he was a deportist, gallant, but like he

he'd more than the school in the technological. Yeah. Oh, he's graded with honors.

It was the first of his generation chemico metallurgic. Wow. We're present to

the first novi that we've and you know, you know, you know, so you know,

this much this a muchachia yeah, uh, he's had done in many

lots. Yeah, he's he's not he's, he's he's very inamorated

yeah, well, well, so logical for his good qualifications and they

start to get offers to work. Very good yeah. Yeah,

she go to Monterey. Well, in Monterey is another environment. He's

kind of he's like he's a caray, this not he had lived because

apparently he graduated, he's his nobio of the woman

and the I'mbracea. All right. So, no, that's in this period. Exactly. Yeah. Go to the city of

Monterey and begins, like, we go, oh, we've never done. Oh, hey, good. The woman is

so two or are three and I don't see any, or children. It's one and the

woman, very celosa and it's with the with the famous Tolvach. But, a bit, before you know,

that you're here in Tucepeg, the Tolwache, well, it's like a plant, but when they say in this,

they're referring to the water that's when, when they say, the water of calzone. Yeah.

Aha. That's, that's, daena, yeah. Okay. So, it's a,

it's a, it's a damage irreversible, that you, that other will be to do,

not you will say, and the year is actually this young

this young after to be an exitoso engineer he was working on a company

of a business then the woman is separate to him because he said

because he he said he was he was he was and the man of he was

in condition of no he was he said he was in a house

that was his father that his father and he he he did

a he he had there was a there was a he went to the

house and he's an ojo in the wall and there's and there and you

know it's not you know it I'm a sportist a whole an student all an

exitoso and look in what he said I'm the people that's that's of

Tuxpec that's I'm a that I'm know the story of a

man that's he's he knew with much respect because so he's known him.

That's a story he's told in Sergalan Susstos, that if I've heard of sergalansustos, you invite that you guys to hear of

Saraglan Susstos, a project of extra normal podcast. That sir was a man was a man of a situation

of the here in Tustepec. He was he knew because he always cargable

three things. A cigarro, a libretta and a revista for adultos. So, the

sir, all the time, he sent to write to write in the buses.

In fact, I'm when I was a student, I mean took to give them some

money, of the little that I had. But always us

just called the because that this man, it was, like,

it was a man, he was a really, really, he really, he's a situation

of a situation of car, desnutried, but he was that the sir,

in his was a a carita, Like, like you said in a car. And all the time he was writing. And one occasion

was made a viral in Facebook that a child that was he was waiting the bus to go. So the

sir, the sir, the sir, he was in the like he was like, so like with the

language to moh to the lapis, and I keep it and when he took the photo

in the libretta, Santiago. The The senior was doing some equations

mathematics of a grad or university so so that's that's the

technological of Ket and the universities they said that's very advanced

that's very advanced and is a lot of equations numbers and

dispeg and a lot of things this this man is

a person and result that he The virality of the media of the

reality of the man of the changleon that he said and he started and then and in the comments came to see a person

anonymous and this person says I know that person was my becino for many years he had

many properties he was a master a master of a university obviously very lex of that sir that senior

he came almost to go to get to I know I know I mean many

many years that I've seen the last we've seen of him and that's because

it was that this man he started to discuss much with her was a

master a matematic university but he started to have his handadas

to to say to to get to get a life resuelt

had much money many properties. It was very good, a car very beautiful. And, yeah, the last times that we've seen, started to

discuss much with her husband. On that first, yeah, we're at firsts, you know, they'd have been there. Vendiered the property. Yeah, no, we know to know. Until or not, eight years

after. How is possible that's in situation of the case? And you, you know, the legend. A this sir he did do

malito of his occultals mental but still with that capacity to resolve

equations of a level sumamely a high, a degree difficult.

Desafunately that that he fell after approximately four, three,

four years. He was he was he, he, he was he was

refugia the people, the people of the people who know to be

to make to to make it, always that someone he was he and he

he was, he was a bad humor because always, there's something, there's,

something, that one was, he was, accepted the help, but always,

like, he said, like, always always, but no is that he was,

he, he was, like, it's like, he, like, his cassette, he was,

was a discussion, and that was, and so, he did all the intention and all the reference to what this

woman told in the commentary in the photo that's the man was his meddle he felling with his spouse

and you he'd agarrava the money so I was so I knew so I could buy to buy cigars

but always was playing or disputing with someone and unfortunately they were

unfortunately they found a But if that story, obviously, being there, yeah, of the side spiritual, of the side brohiel, if they want to be

all the sense of the world. Figgott, I mean, I know the case of a master, of the UNAM, but he, he was, he was a catherer.

So, to the maestors, he was given classes. So, then it was, there was, there no, there was a case

of brujeria, but it was so, prepare-as, that was, that was being loo to this person, this master

that the director of the UNAM in this time, no see if now they're there's

there in a place of a cabas exclusive for maestros of the UNAM or the

job and he said to get to he's got to get a psychologist a psychiatrist he said

there no there was there in those years he said need to he's

he need to let me this cabas that no he's that not neither

Or so, no radio, or so, he quitted to the cabin radio, television, and that not

read a periodical, nothing. He said, because, if not, this man, he's going to

get in the and the and he and he even, I'll hear someone, I can't

get a lot. A very, that's something I see, I'm not, I'm not,

I'm not, I'm not, because there stories of people that are that

so, in a type of liturgy I don't see, something, they're like fanatized,

fanatism. And they're so, something in your mind, in his brain, in your cerebr, that's

they get in there, and it's very rare, but no, no, inventes, oh,

that good charla, that good stories, usaventas, how you do it, very well,

and I say, I'll say, very much to say, very good, that you have fixed

in me, since you a good time, that's that's the participation. For me,

as a day, all this is new. So, all this is new. I've got much years in radio. All the life dedicating the thing for the normal

Sancta? Yeah, 15 years yeah with the program. Wow. 35 in radio. This. But,

to do this of red, this is new. And now see, as I consider like a kind of,

I'm like, I'm a thank you. I'm honres in a reality, Santaago. I go, I know,

Yeah, of a time for here and I'm really also thank you with your team of work, that's really,

we're doing to all the kids, and really much thanks for accept this invitation. Before to

we'd like that you know, you know, you know, that's social, projects that

are there's many, there's about the platforms, and the 301 of October

we, we'll we're, we're, we're a project of the mukees,

stories of moeckes. Histories is a serial, but because I talked about, Paco, these mucas, I have various

newnees that have a story. No, not were compredas in a mercadito. No, I don't, I have the testimony of the persons that me, and why me, they were

these muckees? I'd say, in the set where I am doing all this, this, I never had convivied so much time with those mucas.

I never had been puttas, those mucats. So, but they were They're always. Yeah, always they're

always. And it's the first time that I've been many times and I don't I'm not

I'm not I'm not with these mukees and think me that's some situations or something

that's something. Oh, it's a good in the program, man, yeah,

it's interesting. Yeah, I've done to be on your formato conversational for the

people who have seen that's that's in the channel of Santa Segoves.

I'm recommend. There We've talked of possessions. And I'll invite you to visit the project of my friend. Here in the description, you know,

you know, the links, for that you know, your channel. Santiago, no, equally. Thank you, to all your

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