EXTRA ANORMAL - Relatos Siniestros de Nahuales, Pactos y Brujería Ft. Jesús de Nazaret Martínez

Episode Date: August 20, 2024

En este escalofriante episodio me acompaña mi amigo Jesús de Nazaret Martínez para compartir historias enviadas anónimamente por nuestros seguidores. Nos sumergimos en relatos siniestros de nahuales, pactos y brujería, incluyendo la perturbadora historia de alguien que afirma haber sido pactado con un nahual. Estos relatos te llevarán al límite de lo desconocido y te harán cuestionar lo que creías posible. Acompáñanos en esta conversación llena de misterio y terror. ¡No te pierdas este episodio y recuerda suscribirte para más contenido aterrador y fascinante!

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he was ecstasied of he's to feel a

kind of a kind of in the environment and he starts

like if was a per mojado or that

that characteristic olor oh oh and observe when

when he he he the face that the face

of this woman. Be that was like a macho cabri

he he observe that the the cell is

a cargando that becer and that this being

his body all his body and he observed

the musk okay so and it was a series of

a human, an animal. When he was precisely trying to to sconders he saw how that

the ser sat down of the fogata he took that the little becerro

and he starts to take the skin like if was a paper you

see that be that the window was that

was there was out of the but but it's that

it was it's not an alas like it was a man and with the

hand and with the hand and he when this cost enter and he

I felt the the air that that abienta with the

and I see how he he posa he he he

he so a pico or what whatever or

he said something that me perternes you me pertainces and not you're going to be able to

liberate of me. What Tal, family, be welcome to a podcast Extra Anormal.

My name is Paco Arias and I'm very happy to be here with all of you this

occasion I'm very content family because we've retomated something that we

want to and that is to tell stories but more Yeah, of series stories

that are relato that are written for the same audience. Relatons

that the people many times decide by the they're for the

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vivences. And in this occasion. The theme that we going to talk is one of my themes favorite. One of the ones with more mystery and a theme that's

repeated for tantas generations to the long of many years. The theme of the Nahuas. And for this theme, what better that would have a good friend with which I to share these relato

so scalofriant. The day of today, me accompany my good friend Jesus of Nazareth Martyrus. How are you? Very good, my friend. Much thanks

for the invitation. We're here we're ready to talk about some about some stories of terror. Before to

start, I'd like that you present with the audience I know that you're very known for the

family extra normal, but even I'd like that for you'd present. Much thanks

my my name is Jesus of Nazareth Martine's and we also we make

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find all type of stories of terror in this occasion, accompanying here, thank you.

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In this episode, Nazareth, we're going to talk of relato of inaguales. Okay. Relatos reales. But me would like to start

from the more suave to the more sinister. It's very really the pain that they're in the final.

All, all, all those are very scalofriant but we've been honest

there are there are levels in the terror and the last ones are very very

very I want to start if me let me let's tell you a story

that is a little short but it's repeated for many

generations in grand quantity of many people this

this is an anonymous is anonym but the

transfond is very obscure. This me a person of Mexico,

a baron. We're going to omit his name, but we're to put him a name. We're going to

put him. Juan he said that since he was very little, all his family

were together and so they were in vacations to visit to his abelos. They said

it was very beautiful because my family had like a carionet great

type van where went my abelos, my parents and my tios, and all were

to visit to his vis-a-sulos. His vis-a-sulos vivian in a poblado, here we have been in in Puebla,

that was approximately about about five, six hours of where they lived. So, in

vacations, all they were in they were and they were to go and they were to be-a-

and they had been there. The part bonita of this is that when the

his-a-sabuelos, you're going to them and they're doing a caldito of a

gallina, and they're they're a house because it was a house very great where all

they were going to be and they're some nights very good to hear stories. They're

they all a year or two times a year, all year, they're all they're

all right to runes in family. But in one occasion passed something something

and it's the reason for the he's the question that he That was

they were to go to visit to the ex-aubelos but the kids that always were were very very

very infirmes and not couldn't go. The father and the

mother of this person also also to them they're he's he's

he's he's he's he's he's that occasion only we're

we're my abel my abuela and I as you. As we were few, no

we went in the carmioneta grand. We went in a buswagon that had

my abel, the famous bochito. The bochito said the really is

that I'm very and how we were just we did we did we but in

that occasion we just we went because we were we're going to go we're

we're going to get to my, we're and it resulta that

we're we're we're we're just we 10, 11 more tardar, and we've been

the voyage. The fact I used to go to the stories of the abel. But as it was a

time, I started to do a much dream, muchsue. He said, no, I know how

time I do I, I can't say to what hour they were. So, I can't

say, that it was too only I what I heard in my abuel and

my abuel and my about to be a little bit of things of the life and there was much obscurity. Because in those years, no, there were a lot of public. And, in fact, to get to the

place where I was my vis-aubelos, you had to deviate to the carretera and go to a sender. The sender was a little dangerous, because no had a loose. But as my family constantly

went to go to get to that, it was very easy. We had gone for that sender. We had been out of the carretera,

now we've disviated and that the sender still still there were to

get to the house to get to the people. From a moment to another I know

that my abel and my abel and my abel and I sawed

because they were they were they're to be in the first they're they're

they're I'm I'm I'm and I'm that my happened

something something something that I'm up and trying to reincorporate my

abel my abel that I think I say shh shh shh

shh cackate but why shh cackate in that

when I went to front I saw that there

a big tall of a grand time that came

was out of some mato and he put

in front of the way. The strange is that it was

that it was a simple toro. It was a very great, but why

how much the brother? I remember that my abuel was impacted

that animal and my old was and I was praying

the father and but was very very very

altered and my old and my boy simply he said my

my old apada the lights waiting that the animal continued his but that animal

was made parable and he started to come back to us he was in the moment

I saw how my abuela starts to alterer more his heart his

and was very agitated and I noticed my my abuel

just said maldito animal the the to the

to the vehicle and there Paco I'm you know for my

life that I see something that the people not I'm going to but

there's my my abuela and my abel that's that I'm

I can't say that I'm that that that was much more

more more than he had a a rostro

very peculiar no I don't the eyes the

eyes but I'm something something that It did appear different of an animal.

This beastia is parra up a side and it's a erguer. Like, he was to get up

and we saw how was moving and my abuela and when this animal started to do

this animal didn't even not just to look to like he said something and my abelos was about.

I mean me did much fear, me said. Me gave much fear because

to see a great people who are very people who see those,

to have me that's me and in that moment I'm how this

beastia open the o'cico and me called much the attention to something. His

dentature was humana. The part of his osico, of his dintes

were human not was like an animal. It was a dentadure human. In that moment

the animal is me kept looking from his head and it was like

that he was trying that was a good time. It were some two seconds

but for me were the seconds most long in my life.

In that moment I hear my my little

my oration. I was saying a famous oration Catholic. The

magnifica. And I see how the animal normally is going to be going to

reincorporating in four patas, he does the and he met

between the plantio that was the thing. The strange is that in

when he was we're getting we we're a a risa

of a person like if if was someone there or

as if the risa provenia from the animal. In when the beastia

was in my abel normally on the light and he ranca

we're we're we're very very teneros because that

it was that was something more than a

simple animal I I didn't ask nothing because

my abo I was crying and my abuelo I was like very in shock we got to

the house of my vis-abuelos who are who were to be a past that it was

not so what hours were. We got from the vehicle and they they're

to receive us we're they're they're so they're what what's

when my abel he said to the father we we're we top

with the bestia and I saw how the rostro of my vis-abuel changed

and he said how we we're top with the vesty. And what me gave more

scalof-fri is the response of my vis-a- who said the same that my

abel maldito anima how is possible that after that's that's

life and is that in that moment we remember one of

one of many that my old he he was that when he

was there was a toro a grand timeo that had to come and to eat to

eat a animal to do you to do his creedero of animals and that he

he was done a in the that he had he had got to

him and and that that animal still the

place where they live oh-ah tremendous net her

Fortissimo. The Nahuas for me always have made made a story or a type of

mythology, I don't how you call it, so fascinating. Because are represented

in many forms in different countries, in different cultures, and over all,

toparn us with this type of stories that are so reales and that have

great relevance and have been a great stories of people that are in this

podcast is what most me a sombra. I don't see what opinion. Well,

I think if you Pucko, that the question of the Nahuas, the

people, these beings that are pertenesient to our to our those bosques, a

our little to be a bit mystical and terrors the forms in that the forms in that they

appear. There is a question quite interesting in about the those

the bruchas naguales because they're very very of to say that is that's

that's the same the actually the two, the bruchas there's there's

there's there's like you do you do you call it mythology we can't

call it stories that people about those the people most

those people more we've we've gotten to the conclusion to

that should be more arraigated this type of

in the places that are less urbanized exactly something

common. And this story that I want to talk to have to have been precisely

with a place in the years 40s in a little municipality that I

think that for those times it was simply a rancheria or a little

in this people that pertenees precisely to Oaxaca that's curious that only

that's all the things here for these rumos but a zone

that was a very, very, uh, a lot of trees, a lot of people,

people that they were completely, all the camp to the and a all these situations that

in the actuality not are so common in this in this people it was

a very, uh, uh, to be almost always see ever

to the women helping to the ordea and all the women arando,

uh, all these labors were realized by almost all the people,

every one of the people, and the person that parted the experience

commenta that according the experience of his abelos in one occasion

there was a person new to you know you know you know when when when they're

people new to these spaces are these are the people very

quiskiyos of what does this person here? That's so does happen much with

with doctors of doctors, uh, and they're even accosados exactly. And here

the question is that in that this person as being very armetica a little

sociable a person a certain and at a certain point something something

the people started to talk to make to make a little Oye, no does an explanation

of what does here and apart not want to talk to we're what we're what's

what's okay of a repent in this place, to be a place

a place quite they're to start a series of situations that

no have precedents and they're they're to start to

get to get to the mais as to start with with a

lot of deficience the animals commenced to move to forms

strange some of them they're they're they're they're just

talking about we're we're saying we're thinking that a

beastia or something something was that was something with they're

that not something common okay like for to say are

coyotes are or something they they're they're they're

they're a little more a sustado at all that all this was going to coincidia with the

arrival of this person so mysterious and the and the religiouses of this people

started to suspect and to say this person could that's that's to dogeria

or something for the stuff for these things that are going and

that's hysteria that hysteria for media of this situation that was in this people.

When they were totally aft of this situation as their people who are isolated

and they are getting totally without food. So, they were providers

of all what had the people. They were they produced their own

their products in their ranches all all was etchable and

this he was to be a preoccupate much more when the people that were

more we're going to say encargated of the question of the security

as in the actuality in some of the people that we

have in our municipalities in our decisions on this situation

to having this question of the person of the

of all those these events that record we in the in the in the in the

in those times were much more superstitious than the actuality oh, demasial

a man said we said we let's see with this person no we we're going

to say nothing but we going to go and we're going to go and

we're and then of that vigilance was also spiard

that was the the poor of his errors comment they

that when they were that this person went to make a couple of they were

to see to the cabna where he was living when when they

were to this little cabna they are around of

four persons and these four persons that between

they are the man the person that went and

these cabas then certain rendihas because not are paredes obviously of what is material,

concrete. It's like madera. It's madera and some have those o'wecos. Yes,

yeah, yeah. Pedicotos, no? Exactly. And in this case, and they're going to observe and see that there are many wessos

in this cabin. At simple the same to come to see, they're in mind

that there are old there in the cabin. Okay. A part of there,

they said, here not they're not the things. Obviously, like in those

times, always cargabing with those machetes. Sure. When they were

observing, they'd know that this was sent out in an skin, without

absolutely nothing like if stood up that's that I'm a little that's

a little was a little bit a small and that this person when this person at getting

a certain hour of the night, he was he was to do to that

and he he came to do do around to the table like

was an animal no see have seen how the

perros, a before to be in a type of circles. But this person

not was doing that class of circles like to doorms. Apart, we're talking about a

person. When I was doing turns in circles, he begins to have a type

of transformation. Okay. And they're they're that this transformation is supermating

and more aterrower. And more have been in a pastime, a , and quite,

bestant similar to this type of transformation. A person, this person,

in this transformation comes to rascarser the skin, and it starts the

cabell as, as if was a camis, ah, arancandosel. When

these, those that were there were in those redigas, they've been all

that you were they're aterrorized they're so they're they're when they're

that this beastia that was that they're they were like if was a perro

he's out by the window and they're they're going to

get going to they're they're they're they're in the

buske and the person that the testimony was

the the only that was to this bestia. No confirm

that the beastia has trapped to the people that they're

they're but three of the four people that were outside

of that came not didn't appear. What was quite

curious respect to this experience is that after

these three disappear this supposed Bruch, Bruch, Naguil, no did appear

for that poor. Curiously, after the disappearance, after all these events so lamentable,

that were the peridas that not confirm that have been fallacements, all of the normality.

Coseches productivas, gannado, sano, no, there were more attacks,

and people lived with tranquillity but with the lamentable

notice of the perid or disappearance of three people. No manches

manches manch's man you. Wow. Fiat that while you did that

story I record one of the stories more that I have done

in this channel and that that we tell the of a

story of but I'm I'm I just but I say

what me impact of this this that there are two forms in that one person

can be able one having the herence for line sanguina of parents and abelos and all your generation and the other pacting with a type of being

an entity demoniac that you will give the power to transformate and he said that there was a factor in common yeah either

for pacto or yeah or yeah for herencia when when you convert in an animal

the people not is that you're not that it's revuel

for that they're so what what is that

your body is a metamorphosis totally totally dolor

in that your those your muscles are so

parten all your organism your organs and the

person who is a person to It's a pain

like if stuvieres like if were like if were people and you metiering and you

don't know the people the people when they're doing this part of do this not is

not that I'm going to doils for the ritual until that the dolor until

that your transformation culminate and in that moment that are a beastia

an animal his instinct animal is to get and

to eat and to eat that has been given a attention is to

know how a person to get to get to have to a change so much in his

body, that he'll get to revoke literally like an animal is so is so it's so

the I want to a story a story man that that's a lot

that you said you said this this person and I said so

like as as like a This is a state of Guerrero. It's an

story anonym. Pass in in the state of a war. This

had an student that came to do the time to do the

and they made to a people. She when came to this

people he described as a place a little of all

civilization a people that to get there you have

to Even in those years, to not have modernization or not have tantas carteries there were trams where you had to

come to take another transport. In one occasion, he went to this people, where she was all the

week and the days of the time to go to a city, a Guerrero. In that occasion,

she, standing in the people, had to regress a Guerrero and

to go and then to get to a city for a but I'm to get to that's the

same day because it was it was a time but I had to return to do that

his service she she said her for to get a day in

his city and to get back and then they're they

they're they're they're no that's the And that same day, you have to return to the people. She's a little bit

at the 6th of the morning to go to the city, does the tramite the most rapid that can be to go to the good hour. But, you know, we're going to

not for nothing, but your tramite demuror more of the double than what she thought he was done.

Demurro much time. At the grand no, that she is that she see in the penosa necessity

and I go penosa because she I don't want to say she's very late I'm not I'm going to but she

had to complete with her job with her service in that moment take a

bus and he goes to like all you imagine and he he gets

the night he he begins to get to but but

it was something something when you get to the first

destination you get to a type of a parada of an bus, but that's

in a world very small. And there you have to come in a kilometer, desviating to where there's another parada more that go to other city. She came in a kilometer, a kilometer of night, being

at the 9, 10 of the night, solely, completely solo, to his destiny to take another transport. She said that Like this past at the initial

of the years of 2000 that not there was not much to use lampras

lanterns, these lanterns many people go to know these lanterns that were the of the abelos

those of the lighterns of petrol and she was she was she was

she was she was she said that she back from the first auto bus

in when he starts to come in She seemed observed. She seemed very observable. Sentia like something

was behind her, or like he was etchance. She didn't know. She was to come to more rapid. And he said, I have to press the pass because

my auto bus me will be to have to go to have to go to have to get to the night. I'm trying.

Yeah, I was doing a lot of plans in your head. Well, he gets to and get

to the place that is a place, There were some banks there in the place where the people regularly would sit down

to expect the transport. And he went to the ultimate. But while she was in that

place, that was like a little central very big and very little, was the

only person that was there was there. In that moment, pass a few minutes

and get to your transport that he he has, that now see, to the

people where she went. She went to that people about

the 11 or 12 of the night. At get to the

people, you just she seemed more because she knew

the place and she knew the and the people

yeah she is that she back and yeah in the

people she still listening like strange pisadas but

at there no there no there she was

she still seemed ass a even that she had

gone to the place where he's I'm I'm I'm a

sense to start with someone that's like spying or

and he said no, I think I think that I'm to

get to get to she I'm in a quarter of a

house that she they had to she she

she the door, I'm going to get a secure what did it and I said

I said I said the window because the fact that in this time

had much a lot and there had an vanico no had ventilator and then

there was with the air that I was I left the

window and I said in that moment I put my sandalias

my chanklas here in Mexico and I'm met to

give a back because I had been all day in

the I said, me do my bannito, me took a coffee, a coffee negro, and I go to

my abitation and I disponged to do my my camera, we're going to let's

explain how it's, it's a room where only there only there a room because the

room, the side is the bayon and at the side of the bed

and the that sople a little a little in this moment she said

she was very very very I'm very tired and I'm to get in this type of dream of a

profound where you're and you get to you're going and you're very fast in this

moment happened. No, me I got dormited. Me gave

a paralysis of sleep. While I was I'm a paralysis that for

me was something normal, I was look see a sombra

that wasomable asomable as something of the ventana of the

exterior. The really me did much fear. Because as a

woman she says, you know, you know, you know, a person that's

a person that want to get to your room and want and you know

what? But I still seeing seeing that sombra but the

strange is that not was like a kind like a animal

like a animal, like a perro. He said I I still Luching with the

paralysis of the and the truth is that I'm not I'm

could move and I could have and I think how this thing

into the room and I said it's a a

moment I pass when when when one at

first in his pierna by his knee and

up up your up up she feel a

animal a person that he does this this.

Empeza I'll feel like I'd feel like I'm the the cold of the

respiration the the cold of the respiration there I see I

was that no was a no I'm I'm I'm the

air that was that I was me much me

I'm I'm I'm I'm it was like the piece

of a per so see they're like the unitas

the garritas pegan in the piece. Began in the piece that was in the question

really. I said the fact I felt much fear. Because she she was

alpheteing and she was up and I felt that air that was that I

had to his naise in my pierna I sent me I'm

much me I'm unfortunately in this moment in this moment he's

I'm to pray back santo and for all what I

could, and of good apprehendance, like, like, rompe the trance and regress.

He said, the really, Paco, me did much a lot, I'm not

an idea. All being a place, in a place, no you know, you know,

a place, where no there was no way no one. What I did before was,

go, to start the venting the window, to go, my car, my arm

my That was like at one, more or less one of the morning. I put to cry. I put to

cry to because I had much fear and the form in how to get what my

body was feeling was crying. I said, I don't do not sleep that night.

I was I was for little lapses for 20 minutes and

I was I'm like like of the ballada looking to the

front and I not was just not like at 4 o'clock

the morning, the sueno the vencer and again again to get to get to

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and she was a perro but it was a perro extrano was a per rome

is what she here we're here we're and he this animal with the head

the head the recargas to the window and the deslisa to

and see how he starts to get to get to the

window and and another again he into the

room she in her interior, new with million with

many things and much fear, desperation and of all, and then

again, and he's again again again to read, all the other things that's

all the restos, but this this time the animal at the heart of the

body, he'll get to his back, and he up to his

coo, and he's in my respiration in I was in my Cuello,

that's the same air that was that's in my cooel and I'm

and I'm like I'm like if were an animal that you see the the

pain of the animal you see the the the the

and the respiration in that moment says the sensation is

intensification because no I know what is what I remember

that in some moment a woman me had said

a mancha here when someone if is a man if you're a man

a man a man some of some brujito from here and that's me do much

me again again again I'm I'm to try to

try to and here there is something in this story because

he says that his his abuel he did or he

gave or he gave more or a tip or

some words that they served in that moment because we're

we're going to we're talking that all is mental the tranquillity so if if you do they're

mentally they tumman completely then she she started this this this

thought that she had before before to feel that's something I had to

tranquilize her spirit tranquillize his mental he said his words

that she said he said his first to calm to

spirit. When that animal was there, and I see how it puts part of your body in the camera and the colchon seunded, well, it's a little complicated, not to maintain the calm. But even as, she, she's, she

tried, but when this thing was more close, and it started to get a little, like a soffre. He said, even with many things on, I got calmer. I learned, calmar the spirit, tranquillism,

to think things positive and that was helping because I think

how the fear and I'm going to when I'm going to the idea

I'm then I to say to but it was a different

yeah not a rest with a a person

a a person with authority and and I

got out that I that that of what I had seen of what I had

seen. But a surprise when I went to see the window. It's an

open. It's open. All had been real. In that moment,

I'm normally to the window. And she says, from that night

that's that that's per or lobo Nagal no, no didn't

to be to because the dream was had been in my aliado.

A space where I could explore my fears and although the Somba of Nahual even aseched in some rinko

in my mind, I don't have a power over me. Because yeah I had the

power mental, we're going to say. I mean, I'm going to something. That's something

that's a experience. Furtissima man. And is that here here I mean, here I want to

hear the podcast, know my stories personal and of my my mother My mom

My mom has My mom has an experience Similar, I mean, for that I I admire much, respect to much the work

of these people who are to be in places so, so, so they're people who are

people that are that they're they're going to have to work, and they're and they're

to toparch with that type of things. And I when I read this story,

I said, I so it so it is so so it of my mom.

To my mom, to my mom had a very curious. She had in the house of a woman

and said I was that I was that I was I was in the techo. And I said

I was that was that I was that I was to and I'm to know with the light

and I'm a strange reason in the madugada I I was and the

light was and the light they were they they they were

they She thought, she funded the focal. What you think? She's he got

that's that's a pagoda because she will be to presser and she preending.

No, it was, not it was found the the cause that was and the

part of us. They're, we're, we're, they're in the suns, where they're there's

where they're there's some of the stories too Fortunes. Fortunes. And here And they're putting

yeah medias. A bit more tetricks. Medastriced. Look, that's... I'm move a little the

the thing of the olor to suffer. Yeah. Because we are we invululcruing

a little the them demoniac. Demoniac. Yeah. This history that I'm going to

tell, it's a interesting because it's a place that I've to know to know

because to you. It's about six months approximately. Yeah where is.

In Usila. Uy, Uy, Uy. And I it's really fascinating. I mean when we have this type of stories of

of the places that we know we know. Fiatty that what happened to my mother, but I don't it was

in Usila, but it was very close of Usila. Ah, see? This place, this place is

beautiful. It's very mystical. It's very mystical. You've been it's a valley. It's a

valley. So, it's in the city of a valley. Precious. Hermoso the place. The people is very linda, but it's a

little bit, but it's a little bit mystic. Yes. And the same that mentioned at the beginning, places little urbanized, have this

kind of energy or class of manifestations. This story was made quite interesting because it has to

see in some part with this mess with this mess with the devil and Nagu. Okay.

Presumptomently the person that compartes the experience about a person that in this people are a person a very problematic. That in the actuality I think many

we know a type of personality of this type. A person that almost always always had been to bea-briago that always

had been taken that molestable to all the people, had peleas and he met to robber to cars

and as we're like we're in that place are like cabas in some in some places

so if we're so we're surely the constructions were of this type were cabas

and not casas of material this this sir had also the grave

defect of that a cost much to a much to the women okay

so had that grave defect many of the people many of the

people they were like a person in a person and that reason never

took actions over it because in these people are very severe

and there they occupy a word that I say let

go let me let's let's let's let's simply in the

actuality still still in the in the actuality there have

had situations where people that are people that are going to do installations of cables of situations

that need to those people that they're that they're they're and they're they're taking the life

yeah places where they'reging for uses and customas as well in these places

so to this person like they say ah you're we're we're you're

you're you're in an occasion, this sir that we in the city

we're saying teporoch to these people are in the te porochito the tepocho at a

sometimes this this man standing in that in that co that he'd

have the women obviously what always what always always they were

insults were desprecions for part of these these or these

senioritas in one occasion be like a woman that practically within of her

person was a a woman that was a woman for the reason that was

practically abandoned for what was her husband had a baby this

this chick this this this moment, your mother, being

other times, the momas were overprotectors in quite to the babys. And if

a woman was a with a baby, they'd they'd mal. It's very

vulnerable, no? Exactly. And the parents said, you can't have a

child, you are you don't, you don't, and they they were so they're so.

And then these chica had all, that no, that no had a

marido, that I lived Sola and apart that they

had to be to the baby his parents the she

was a pretty attractive and this sir in

some in some moment observed that the she

was very very and crying and very very

beautiful the lady or a lady she has

with this borrachito and he he says, hello, what you're doing you don't manches

because you're so and you're and she she's very amablely he said is that

me quit a my little I feel that my really because obviously no I

amamantado to my baby and my baby and being the person maldita

that was this man he says well, what's what's my

ha. No, man. What's what's one with a one with

so if you want to you can help to help and and

curiously this woman he says if I need I need I need

to desacern of this leach then then he

took one of his peches this he he he

and he of those peaches. Wow. When pass this situation

that he was ecstaciated, imagine how many years of this person and to get

to a woman. Of, of that being in that ecstasis, of a repent

and he's to feel a kind of in the environment. It's to look

as if was a perro mojado, that characteristic olor. And he he observes when

he makes a the head that the car of this woman yeah no was of

a woman. Be that it was like a manch cabrio with the same with the

same body. And is that the baphomet? Exactly. It has has.

Okay. And when When I was observing this man, imagine to be in that situation, until the

borrachera it was he was when you saw that this image was so sinister

that that no that no that he didn't he that was this

this of some he moved and he per die between the matorales

between the arboles and this he went there

wow totally stupefact after after that situation this person if for si had

those problems with the consumption of these substances nocivas imagineate

what was the the people when this he said is that the devil is that the

gawal is that this person and And, still adding saying to me

do pecho. Wow. They started to say, you're like, depravado or something?

Exactly. And this person perseo in the street. Wow. Something

something. The story, me impacted because to start never in

the life I've heard ever ever heard of that's something at the

beginning of this story. Or is a thing of Brueh

Nawal or is a thing or is a demoniac so

is. It's that Bafomet normally they're associated with

things satanical yeah we've talked before but Bafamet

has another other story that go very very

very by the other but for the animal is very

similar yeah but he doesn't but Bafamet has

a story more interesting that the thing of

the Templars and all this rio. The impressionant here is that when a satanist

me said, is that there's a first bafomel before the bafomar that all knows.

That first bafomel is a a ser that is of a thing of a satanical.

That is is. Not the second the that you knowces. There

me took the thing of I think is called Lipase Levy, something.

Yes. And me I'm a little bit of this. That is a ser, obviously very old

that you can't get to see invocated. So, in the history that you

know, I don't see what could be it. It's very confuso.

It's that a point important is that first is a woman. As

is. It's a humana. Or that apparently It seems but in the moment where the type

is the type in the ecstasy and is the olfato what he makes to talk the piece and reaction

that was with a person not an human a man a person I think I think it's in one of

the grand incognitas I don't know I don't to say you I don't

but sincerely not I really I would be a demonia I'll let me I'm

a that's a an entity a gawar could be it

could be the moment of the last two stories

I want to say this is one of the one of the stories

that I have read unfortunately not it's anonymous I

I can tell of who is but it's a

story that no has no has an I'm a development inmediate.

It's a story that has been many of the stories even more long as a lot of the story is a lot. That's a story about a lot.

That's the story of Alicia. Alicia is a woman that's a woman that for the years 70. She is

a child unica and grew in an environment about a family. She said that in

her family there were many children, and of their age, as a

age, as you know, they're around the prims, they're much

major, he said, I've learned to talk very rapid, very, very,

and I learned and I had to talk, me said conversations with

any type of people, and were conversations very fluid.

At those only six years, she had a vocabulary

extensive. Even she said that When I was When I was When I was She'd have Much Risa

Because I said Is that Is to talk with her She's about Like a Mugertica Chiquita

But but that has great Flouidess in his words It's a little

intelligent So she She all the time was around Of primos family of children

of much Amor All good Even even Even Me Describe that she

always They used those animals like the tuitous, the tortugas, always took in his house,

many things. In one occasion, for problems that had his mom and his father, them's

economic, they had to muders to other house. He said, for what I know today, then they're

problems economic. So, then they had to be a house more economic.

And my my papa found a house to the other of the city.

One a with a terrain baldillo. A terrain very great that had an arbor

great in middle and was very very disquidated had many had much plantas and much

malheza and said but I mean what I like a little so you see nothing

of that the man who he said he said here here I'm going to

and then they're going to the house and as my people

and as my people all the people like we say we we're

we're we're And that way, since we we came us, they were moved to all, they were waiting us our new besiners, our friends,

all were there festeaging, no? And the children were in the patio and the, well, those adults were in the

house. Well, we're corded with this Terranobaldi that has a large arbor. Of good

first, she said, she said, she came to get a air very very strong, that

he went to the polvo. And in that moment, she started to see, or better

to perceive, like the aroma of a little mojada, that started to emanar

of the place, and something of that moment, where she started to see,

that the odor, a tear mojada, is like if the time to be

the time. Dese, the grits of my friends and my friends,

they were they're like if all was paralyzed and I felt,

or better said, I'd like a subbid a sombid a sombid in the

oeons. In that moment, he said a great frio recorre to my

body, I don't know what I had to and I felt a sensation

like of fear and of his only six years

like of this moment and he's and he's he went to the

terrain baldio I see the bird great and I

see something something very very very very strange

because in that there was an baby a an

an an a man a very very perturbator

but but I didn't I did have said

and that was that the mirada of that animal was a

a mirada human is like if behind the animal or the animal

would be a human so you see the mind you a person but

it was an abe a big a big of that was and this me

was me and she me to be to be miram and

he no I'm I'm and I'm and all first

what me makes to regressar, is a goal of one of my primas that I'll play to my back, I go, and

like all that again, it started to flow, so it was all, like I was all, like, I did it, and in that moment me said, my prima, you're well, prima, you kept up a much time?

And he says, yes. But why it seems, but why it's like you want to you want to? No, no, no. It's the polvo that's all over the air, no, no, no, don't you I was very

extranated of what I had lived. It was like if the time would be and only I could

see and perceive all the thing. He went to the night and his tios and friends and

all of the those who were in those who were in that moment and she kept with

her mom and his papa solos in the house and they were

and they said I the really I don't I'm my parents grave

error not I don't to my my I was not I was used to to say to

them to what I lived. Or that type of things like that not was part of our

creencia to a certain point. So I'm I'm I'm going to go to go to

to go to the camera but but that that I did I was too was very

present in my head. In that moment I'm just standing in

camera yeah trying to do not my mind again said, he's

to make a re-rear all. And, and I'm just sure that's

I'm sure that has been a lot of many, says, I'm to say, I'm going,

so you do you get to think you in the same, in the same, but she reacciona

and it was a thought, and I'm and I'm and I'm again again again,

like, all the all the thing, so it's having six years, me kept

paralyzed again. No could move me but it was a strange, it was a sensation

very rare I was conscious but no me could move I could I

could I could be my room and I didn't see in that moment

that was a paralysis and and of first be that

the window was I was out of the air but he said that it was it was

not an alas like it was a man and with the and with the man to push the window and

he sent me much fear because I know what I was living when this cost

enter I hear the window the window I'm how it's and that when you

go to the salas That abienta with the salas and I hear you how he posa. Acerco his boca or so pico or what it's

that were to my o'eido and me said something that I perturbed. This thing me said, you

me pertainces. You me pertainces and you're going to be able to be able to in that moment,

I said I got gritty and and get my father to see what he's

he said and my sister you know the only he's to have to be

to be to hear and not I'm trying to say to say to say to my

father what I had seen what I had been that that had been

that I said unfortunately my father he said to come to me

and that that's me did a much a time to be He'd started the odor of the

food that my mom was doing the my papa and he was going to

me. In this moment, he said I go to the cell. My papa

was doing his periodical my my mom doing the time. He got

to come and me and they what you thought? Why? Why grittes that you

never had done? And if the really I'd really, I'd

really not much to tell us this type of this type of things and I said

that one of my mascots with a perro that had said, he said,

he said that I'm and he did much a little and I'm a lot of importance and

then you know they've let them pass that's that's that's so I'm going to

passing the time and I was going to that's time more but always there

was like a variant something something something but a occasion

was going to but it was like the first was a dream very real and that occasion malistapy to go to

go to get to sleep and was again to paralysis of the in this occasion

I got to see well I did not the abe I saw that that was

another other was in my invitation but here the description that is

very is very strange it was that it was a great with

a medium, but that had hands human, had hair, and had plums.

And this thing, he had hands and with his hands, to talk about her hair, he was

and again he would say, you me perteneces. You me pertainces. In

that, I'm at more, because I got to see in my rostro,

in my cabello, his body, his hands. And, and I'm

going to get to him and the truth is that now I'm all the unfortunately

my parents not me they were. Me said that was part of a

past of my imagination. And since, as I didn't know me created

I'm, I'm I'm to be a little the great part

of the time that me was playing and with all my friends, me la paced callied. Me la passed

isolated. Me passed the time at solas. I was my primos and my friends and I was always

in a rinko. I didn't want to be not any. And it said me sentia very really because

no me believe. This, I said, to my parents, no they didn't

because they saw because they saw it so they decided to have me with a friend of my

Papa that was in a church and said the friend of my papa put an

an acety over his hands and then they put over my front he started to make

a oration and the truth is that me said he said

that me brought much a past since those

those so those so some that were a

So, I said, sporadically, it was very, every time, like all the scenes that had been living. And so transcurrored the

time until his 24 years, where all of what had taken to a simple history, a simple

record, it's intensified. She knows that the 24 years, she has got to and barasas,

and my father's and my spouse and my spouse and I, so we were very felicit. It was

transcuring our lives very very nice. Nase my daughter

and the first eight months everything, all was perfect. No,

there was a problem of nothing. All right. But a occasion his husband,

there was changes in his employment and he started to work to

the night. And the truth, I was always I'm with my

and the real is that no, no, no, no, I

preoccupied much. But that night that my husband, she was to work at night, I'm ready for to

do my babyita, the limp, I prepare, I'm going, we're we're going, and then after so

time that no time, I felt a mind paralysis of the suen. And I heard the

yant of my baby like if stood in an room but my baby was I

had I had you at my my side. and in that moment I sent me really much

fear because I said no could be that this will be going to repeat after after this again again

because again and again and being in trance you see how there

there's a presence in your room no I could see but it was

the same sensation of when this this was there was there into. And be that

his baby starts inquietta. And she again, again kind of to want to hear and record those words

that person in his moment he said. And other time in your ear, the same words, you know,

I don't I don't I'll I'll believe. She's she's and see that her

babyita was very agitada, but passed something rarer. His baby had

a raguio in his piece that appeared of

she said yeah past the night yeah I'm

very un-tank and I'm very bad because another

time that trauma was when when came my

husband so he he and the same what

was what was I perceived a little incredul. It was normal.

It's normal that you tell this type of things to your family. But I decided with this value of

the mother to confrontal. Passed some days more, she had to be very alterated

because they said in any moment this will be to be going to be a

but it's more the value of mother, this is what to really for me is the more

strong. He said, we're just downed solas. My husband was working. It was

madrugated and what me is the air of the window because it's going to do it.

I'm I'm going to the light, I go the roperer and he's got an sabana

extra for me for my babyita and if I tapo, the abrig well, I prepare

some sabanas more for me, I'm the ventana I pago the light, I have

a light of the night, a light that's aupup to get a little bit

the room, and I'm to go ahead to be in my window, that's

where I'm my room, I'm tapo to piece to a

head, I'm my little, and I do you my when I'm

when when when the pesed the ambience, the ambience,

again again, like something, like something descend and

and without he said I go in a dream profound. It's

that's the type of you know and she and you say you start

like you feel like you and you get to and you start

and it is a pes that she she she and

she and in his dreams was in the patio in the

patio of his house when her and he

is being the The same, the same I remember. Be that arbor in

middle of that the tree and see I'm not a first to say I started, I

get to my actual house. I'm, fiat what I see what I see in

his dreams. Dice I'm and I came to my actual house.

I'm the door and I see. That abe me and I

started to go to my house but was around

to my house. I in that moment I was on the window

and I'm getting to my room and in my room I'm in my room

me be at a costada and at my my little I'm ches bolted to the

window and I was that was open when I had had been I'm

immediately go to the window to close to the other once, and I was there

that abe when I intend to back him, he'd his man, because he had a

man, and me impede to start it. And with a force supernatural, it's

the abe and he to my room. I was there. But I didn't know

what I did my body and the of my I, I felt much

me paco because that abe that abe the first, like

when was a Well, but this this time his a mirab of a man,

like of an human, a man, a man, great, with much plums and and a

pillow, like a form very extraia. He was down to me. In that moment,

no, I didn't what I had to do. My daughter and began to be

to look at my my wife and me and I mirabed and the cariciable

of the feet. And my her, I started to cry. There was

where I took sentiments encountered. I mean but I had a courage and

also impotency because I could say nothing. In that moment, what the

idea that I gave to the mind was to go to my house,

like he came over his life. And in that moment pass,

you terminate all. But what does that all that all is

that his husband was going to the room. He was amecing

and he had gone. And he said what was from? From the house I'm doing

the room here there. I'm going to hear here. And if you're

you're you're you're you're to get to the door. No could

open. It's was not you didn't, what? What's he?

The door was normal. But she she's that she is that What's what happened?

Another again to pass the little bit of his piece had a raeon.

The things were very pesas and it was very bad. Passed the time.

Disminuio a little because she started to have this courage of the mother

for to protect to her here. Here came something something

very rare a man and in a occasion, I

had in the center commercial complying a dispense with my mom in a

super. I was going to do you know, and the tomato, the tomato, and the

bad at my mom at because I did that was a person, and I see that

was talking with my mom, and I said, well, I was I'm here in the

super, garrand the when you when you call the attention, that that

that's that's that's talked to a discussion. And I I heard my my mom

and I said very alterada and that that was the other she was in my mom and said

well because they're playing what I'm my mom no is to player me I'm

I'm and I go and I go and I go and I'm sorry they're but they're

being because they're getting I'm going I'm my mom alterated but

when this woman she look to and I see to the car

his eyes the the Lave. The Mish The

Munch. The same mirab. Dice Paca Tire to all the piece of

what they had the man. It was her in his eyes. It's

like if were being the abe. The people started

to say I I didn't I I'm I

did a borgote because I in shock and I'm to

get to cry to because was a person that has been in my

pesadillas getting to the house I don't I said to my mom but after that

I'm I'm I'm that I'm that I'm that's a woman and why

you're I'm my mom me confess something that never

me had said and it's he said when we were we're we're

we're us casemos, we could have children. We've had done

a diagnostic medical negative of infertility and we recorried to this woman,

the which is a woman. It's a woman that we had been to the

pista for much time. And she said, I'm going to have

that they have one one. And she how to how to to

Cobra I I'm going to give to your I'm if you're

to make me I'm what I want and the desperation for

their said they're that they're they're so they're

they this that this woman let's give done some

and he was doing like some and after

that they got got embarrassed and they they

that woman those were molestating to them and they they were like they were like they were

seeing and and it was the same and was the abe passed years and so it was

but here was at final of the history she said they were two six years

of what I lived with my and what me aterra even more today

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This type of stories me have generated I don't see. It's a fortissima. It's very long,

but the reality is that's to get a name Alicia, the senior that

us she has this story, that more to be a story is a experience,

it's a start, it's so, I'm from, and it's quite, and it's

a woman, and a person that is an abuela of those little. What

really me impression is that we we're talking of a

person Yeah how how many has been that that that

exact and and me remont the story of Nahuatlor

that the his abel he had been in

his to his same being that was torment to

his son to be Don't you count, Armando, that this would be that this

other apart of to have this ability, or this power or this don, it would

like his years are long as a lot of or that not live in the time in the same

than we not exactly. Exactly. Fiatty, what interesting, that experience.

I, I, to culminate, to come to come to tell to me, talking to

Nahuales, is of the experiences more more more and grotesques that I

received. Okay. This history they can't directly from the

sub of this be a state of Oaxaca again again again

again Saludos to my people of my people for whyhaca

all all all so says in Wahaka this experience

the A couple, imagine a person that's a life grew in a city and that you know,

you know, we're not, we're in we're in a country, and we're to go to that we're

being a person adolescent. Okay. This adolescent said, you know, you know,

mom, no, I'm going to get me in the city you know, you know I've never

been in a public, no I think that I think I want to to get. The

the papas the they're no, you're you're going to

you're going to you're going to get to get a and for your very bad

suerte says that in this people where he was living

all they're all they're all about and they're

and he he he not he he he not he he

that no existent. Very expective, the type. Exactly. And when they were in those things,

he entered to the school and he did a point of that his same companions were about

these situations. Okay. So, his family, standing in this people, obviously they had

to work in something. And in their family, what what he was work

in what were vackas had a little ranchito also they were the seedbra

of maize and some other situations he was he was encarged directly

of what was the the care of the and he said that in

that in a certain moment started started a series of

a series of situations that okay that of a minute, to

have this no see, a least a little

pieces of a sometimes they're not 99 and

not and not that was and they were and they

they and not they and so every every two three

months so it was the thing that he

was a but to be specific were beser

those were they were in one occasion this chico

still with that's they're saying is that are the gawals is that are the

and they're to say to us they're not they're not going to believe in this

to some someone is that is that is so is and this

and this for to to want to these these

declarations of those declarations of his family let's I'm

the proof of that are the people or that's someone more

that's someone that's so what he is that when

I was when was when a occasion what what does

is guard all the vacas where they and

only just he a back a adult and

a and when he's he does count, because of

that there no there's a lot of people, there are places where no there's

where no there's and all talking in a rancho there, no there's

much clarity. Sure. So, he does that you know, in effect

it's been that something he gets the carra the back. But it's like

carrying. Like a person. Like if but we're talking of an animal,

although it's a bcerro, great, it's pesado. Yes, he's a so he's so he's like a

cargated. Then he he gotre to the person. Without putting to think in

the proportions of the animal the animal. It's the curious is that in that when it

he does know that's a car to be a car to be to present nobody

of the population were because it was a serro where it was a

Bruchas, Inaguales. When it's a place, it has to escalar much,

he has to go to get to senderos, even he said that I got totally

rasped of the of the matorrales of all these these plants that

were in this place and he gets to a one of a coves

and what they was going to this being that was because

that advanced that's and when he gets to the area of the area he does

know that's there's there's there's like some similar to those

that they put in the campments and there and there a foggata encendida

okay what what he was really really perturbative and that is the

horrible of this scene is that not not he'll do

but be something at a side of the fogata I'm

that I'm going to censurar the video for this that I'm but but

see extat that's that's that were at a side of a

person and he begins to be hands and and

even see some I'm some those precisely in the earth

to a one side of the fugata he asked he was what are what's

what's what is that's that's that he he said he said here

there's there when when he thought he thought he was he could

have a level of a superior to he had in

that he was he observe that the Cueva, it's

a cargating to that bcerro and that this ser no he had

not had a totally his body he observed the muscles okay

so and it was a series of combination between an human

and an animal okay so me, he passed to do a little

that when he went this man to do this man, he was in a

caro, he was to do that when the caro when the caro is

that this was there, he was he got in two and he the, the cabo

came on the man and he he fractura one of the person

this said says that it was impossible that not he did a

question that there was the man but no

no didn't he he tried to do the

most because imagine a fracture in a terrible

super dolor and that when he was trying

to try to see that he saw that

he took that a little Becer and he

And he's to take the skin like if was a

paper. Okay. And he starts to eat. When he starts to come

see how he he comes with that animalito so crud as he was

to leave him in the wos and there you go the most

impressive when when he was in that space, in that place, in that place, in that

a lot, with a lot of spanto, commenced to see that those extremities, that those eyes that were

in the earth, that the being to take and it's to put. No, man, che, bro.

So, let's get to put, the, it's to put the hands, like if,

like if it were, like if it's a forro. Uh-huh. And it's to halarsel

and then it's a but that's a way to do a form that's because when

he's like it was like if it would be regenerating okay and the form of

a sort of a species like an animal commenced to change to a form

human um the interesting and with what it's this

man this history, is that this ser, that was already incorporated, desnosed,

and completely ergued, is that I made some words on air, saying, Lastime

that I don't have more hungry, because if you too, you, you'd

with this animal. Wow. And the man, and the man. totally

impacted to the macho presumtably after this situation then he has been

the liquid vital for the carida and the whole of the people

was looking and you know these people are so much those aspects

and when when so it's not that a person they go and

they're they're not they're they're they're it's like

if it's prohibited the access exactly but it was the only place that they were the

only place and they were totally inconsient yeah almost for fall to but that experience

for me is incredible and in actually it's with the requisite what are

the brucos or the narwhales so for so then then it's like the

change to the change a it's it's it's is impactant

it's incredible the theme of the Nahuas because there there's that's that's about that's

and if we can't even to see how we can't how it's surprising the great

similitude that they manage this type of phenomena that's am I mean what

that is so impressionant family if some if one of this story

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