EXTRA ANORMAL - Relatos Siniestros: El Oscuro Mundo de Panteoneros

Episode Date: March 14, 2025

En este escalofriante episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, Paco Arias se une a Oscar Gherbert para sumergirse en el inquietante universo de los panteoneros, brujas y entidades demoníacas. Descubre testimonios paranormales, leyendas urbanas y rituales ocultos que revelan cómo estos oscuros personajes interactúan con fuerzas más allá de nuestra comprensión.🔍 En este episodio encontrarás:• Relatos impactantes de panteoneros y su conexión con el más allá.• Secretos y prácticas de brujería que desafían la lógica.• Encuentros con entidades demoníacas que han dejado huella en la historia paranormal.Acompáñanos en este viaje al corazón del terror y explora con nosotros cómo lo inexplicable se vuelve realidad en el oscuro mundo del ocultismo.🔔 ¡Suscríbete y activa la campanita para más historias que desafían la realidad e

When he's out of the place and Adira he said to his husband I've had a penitia and I'm

always dreamed with that but I'm thinking that he was because my days were told us

I know that me I wanted to be able to enterraud and he said now the man to

work because all the time you're talking so you don't you're

oh manches he's no I'm I'm saying no I don't don't and don't

don't you don't you can't and what's nothing if Don Choo and we we're about three

years. The ultimate dream that took Don Chensho in the

place there many many people and that one of them the

majorcito he said we said they were they're you have you have you

do you do this we're sometimes to don't Chensh the other day to

go to a place to specifically and he commenced scabar and

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like the person how so how so how people can't know

there a I think it's to have been administered the Correo for many sections,

not it's the theme of pantions, the theme of the people, no, all what that's and I'm

many, many stories very, very interesting, and here are various of those we're going to talk about

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in all all those Instagram, TikTok 3s, and Twitter there is

perfect, me a have, pantions, pantones. It's a thing that

I think is one of those favorites, including with with brujas Naguels of here

of extra normal podcast. Because much people, fichate, never

has entered a a pantheon of the night. I don't for us that we

have investigated that we have entered to many carried to get a partion

is like to be a, I mean that not a Panteon that has a

story very very is like we're a pantheon but

many people people that have decided to go a night to know

to explore in the internet there's many stories where there

there there a video very popular of some

people that are a car and over the cabo

never a car never like a zombie I don't

see there there many many are false, and pardon for arrovinarles

the experience but the panteon, fithet, for what I've been I've been doing, is a

place, it's a place, so is a place, that's a much a much tranquillity, no,

no, no, there's, so, ruidos, is a place where many people

even decide to go, or it's this pass and the night, and the thing

paranormal, but o'clock, those poquitos pantions that you can give that's

there's other that are things very strange not not

for the fact the pantheon but the pantheon where the people

go and bot to bruteria pantones where there's pantheon there's

there a person that I'm there was a part of the

people for example if you you could pacted your with

the diablo with Lucifer Satanas the pacto was made in a

lapid you're you're in a tomb very big and there this ritual she was

she said she said because it's the thing that a woman of 50

years I wanted money and the case was that she had to

have to get to this person that had to ral she had to making

cortes in her her she had to be completely

disnuda, and after that was, she appeared an entity that she said that was the devil, with the

which was to have had intemididat with this woman. There are many things that

have been different pantions, with cargars very pesas but, repit, not not

for the fact of the fact, but the man, he has been invocations,

evocations, tir to bring to a bunch of a lot of things that are very dangerous and

so very oscuras so it's for so that many pantheons have cargars different as they're

those that you can't you can't be quite but also they're they're in an effect

negative that they have been a lot of that much people who have lived these

experiences and we're going to talk what you what you think all this

that's mentioned all those those who are listening in this moment

have heard something to tell. It's something before we start with the stories that we're going to

I've been in a place near here you've mentioned you know. Yes. We'd live we'd

relatively near a panteon. There two in this city. We'd we'd

in parallel to the street that you had in line recta to this panty

and when we were when we was a colonel, I was was very little six

years, seven years maybe. I'm going to be to be my amigitos, you know, you know,

and there's, and there's a story that you know, and they said, the children that were

in front, just in front of this the street, and they connected with the pantheon, they said

that their they're strictlyly prohibited that if if they were in the madruada,

they were to be in the morning, because they were the silhoueta of a woman, and I

imagine of this manner, a woman vestia of a black leaving his stela

and they said and just he meted the pantheon and he had a round and in one of

the tumbas disappeared and then one of the people that was that was

that they were working, that they were they were and they they were that they're maybe is

very recurrent this story a woman of a black saw you saw and they're

that a woman and gave a one of the old and they disappeared and that

they were to find if there to nobody. So, he gave much to this

story of that not we're just to that way because it was a silhouate

of this person. Okay, fiftate that, well, that's that's

sule suede and me has happened something to a person

that a person who is pantioner. I've notated something that I have commented

earlier the people that people that live these experiences in the pantheon

don't they can don't know why not they when I end up when I'm doing

looking pantoneros locales even a little more four-anios me practicable

things incredible so of all really things things impressive

but when when you let us you can let my program and say

so no so like there's like there there's

so I'm really really to what has with the people

that have experienced in the mar mariners the pescaders that

they're like that's like that's like a it's like where I'm you know, I'm

and that's because I don't know that you go and I want to not. There's a

person so like before before to enter to get to the and it's a

story of a pantheon there's there in Tuxtepec with the I'm the that I

this person in a pantheon not I don't say which really there there really

there but if they're going to see who who is me

he said he could to tell his story, but not to say who, and where. This person a pantheonero

in the nights, is velator, and at last of the pantheon there's a post of water.

So, until the final, that abaste to the colony, uh, he

he said, he really never he, well, he's a man, and never he has

never had been to do to things paranormals, because I always that I

know that somebody I'm embalamador or so, I go, I go, Oh, you, you have

passed something? And he's to read. He says, no, it's very tranquil.

The Pantone is very tranquil. So, no, so, no so there's other than

to see people that they're and they're like a tombas and this type of things, no,

a time more human. But he kept a calliado and he says, but one one of us

a lot of a very rar. He said, my my husband me came to come

to come to come to come a casetita and there I have my

television there, well, we come us. Then she went to bring me lunche, my dinner,

and she went there with me. We put him a palicle. There in the panteon, in the casetita.

And, and he said, we're going to yeah at the night. When in that he

has, he has been like certain times to recor the pantheon, caminar with his

lintern to be to be there there are people profanando tumbas or et cetera,

so, then I say, I say, I'll you know how me

demor. No, I demor more than 10 minutes the pantions

relatively is pretty little and I know and I'm to record the

pantheon to record the pantheon all normal but me

took to be something not in the pantheon was more

back where was the post of the water I

saw a woman and when I did that I

did he was coming like did do a

movement very rare. So, like, like, comein'a, but like, it's very rare. Like, cogey-a-per, but his body made movements very rare. He said, and I'm made looking, and I do with the lantern, and I

start, hey, hey, who are you? Ah, so, caron. And he said, the woman, was about hispaldas, and he's free no. Hey, I'm talking. Who are you? What are you? What are you? I'm sorry, so, do that

and say I'm I'm going to start I'm going to come back to see phantasmagoric

not it was a spectro like that was a woman, it described like a woman

of a 60 to 70 years had his her wrap was like

of this tela this that is like black beige and

and he and he and he he what happened so he's

he's he But, I don't I didn't fear, but when me

I'm to start to her and I kept a or a few meters of

there, there something she was in all the time, he was in all the

time, he said, I'm I'm a thought, so, I mean,

I'm not a strange in the sense of something of a normal

but I started to have to have much fear, much and I

say, what you do you say, what is And this woman He responded

He said Me envied to to turn a little to a house

but me I'm and I lastime I'm I'm I'm

I'm do you like you you're you're going or you know I was

saltando in the arboles when he said this phrase that

he was you're saying I'm saying I don't know I didn't

say to But I don't I saw the I saw the I'm in that someone

someone took my armro and I'm my husband me was waiting

me I said you know you know you do you do you do it's

a scalofrio and what is what is I'm doing and I'm to go before

before I'm I'm I'm I'm and he's in the

post and he's a was a very arugatita, full of ruggas. Sir,

and is you been, yes, but not you're going to get to get. I'm going to go to get.

No, I'm going to do to the panteon. I'm going to go. This sir,

he's done the world, he's got with his and he said, why you say,

because you don't it you know what you've you've been a time, you have passed

a time and he had been not and they were talking who is that she's a

woman a colony a little you know a person to the people of the person who

the more that he said is that he was and he was salting by the bird

and I lastime and he he's and he did he he said no

it was no it was like it was like what many people people

think that probably was a person an adult major with

difficulties or problems mental that's that's to have ever escaped and

I've been to have never ever never. It's not that's rare but but I'm

this man, this man is a man very serious so so he he

obviously he said I don't live nothing except that that that time

that I never that I'm that so but no there that he says

that he can't these things but that experience was I think

sufficient. And for any person that listen to this, of really, what I would have gone to say, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

what on, no? But probably probably, it's, well, you know, you've ever been thought.

No, and apart, all the context of where you is, I think there there's a

suggestion. Much of people get to the pantheones even to meditate or to pass a

rato spiritual. And I think it has to do something similar like,

for example, with the churches, no? That, you know, that you're there are

pictures or there are paintings, there's that in the other than tranquillity, they generate

in the contrary, no? Yeah. It's this sensation like a inverse of how a

place, where a place where you're going to go to be going to be to be a person to do you,

you can get to get to this fear. It's there, there are there

images, and I do you with much respect for the people, there is there

there images, there or at initials of the 1,900 and are the pyrids very ostentosas. So, something that I'm a little bit of

a rizah when me took to start in other country, is see the pantheones. Not all are very simple, but here in

Mexico and in great part of South America are like very ostentos. Some of many ostens. Yes,

and many variations, but they put many, many santos, images of angels and this and the other, but

some so many times for the so many years, the image or the rostro angelical, between commas, it's, it's been deteriorating and it's taking an aspect

very sinister. There are images that in the pantheon that are much fear, for the old, or so, for here I have an image, more

or less, like, it's like a moment, like you're, it's like, it's for the time, no,

the past of the time. Fiatty, in the case of my papas, I had I had I was the intention to

give me some angels or something or something of those are presented as an Angles.

And they're just as you're just as you know, I was and with all the intention of the world,

me was going to get to put to the afuars for that they're going to have this semblant.

Because my papas those had there, you know, and now you're going to get to

my father and they're just in the mark of the door, is one of each other but even

it's no it's just it's pegoed the sun and it's It's a pretty interesting the entry of the house of my

papas because they're in Los Angeles but they're a little sinister, no, and you're very much to

get a car of the abelels. Yeah, it's a little bit of some of the images.

Now, Oscar, I'm going to start this year of stories, telling you

one that that's called the vengeance. Uh, that's a very interesting. This story

in the years 60 and he he occurred to a man called Tomas. Tomas

he was a many years working as pantonero, of actually he

yeah he was a generation in generation his father and his brother had been seen

pantoneros of the pantheon municipal of his city and then the

story anterior this sir no had lived nothing

paranormal a man very very accustomed to his

routine very and excavations for for the attaudes. So, all very

very well, a senior very tranquil, uh, the repent I'd

of some people, that were things rareas, that sentia things raras or that

they used even sounds from the times. The truth is that he always is

he's very because he never had never had passed nothing in tantos years that

he had been working from pantheonero never had heard things

he really or seen and he never believed in that of that. But like all,

and as every story, it's a moment where something where he

was a time while he was in these were a lot of those that were

a lot of that's like the time that's the stumbas most bigas those

that even even the people or the people or the people don't visit

and no limping and he with all the love to his work

to do you do a past to not the work to maintain

a time in good he was he was he was he was he said

I was like he he would like he would be that someone I

would be me and me I'm so he he he started

times in the part after after back and he he

started something he never had said a scalof

a sensation rara very very particular like if someone

he was observing he he noticed like a sensation of the

person that he was he was back the wind soplable but no

nobody only only some some some some he said

probably no I don't know something something something he said

I think in the energies and he said a more something

about but he was well He went to where he He had this this place where he

was at the place where he had his syses he went passed on the days and of the repent

and again again to get another at this point of the pantheon that is after where are the tums

oldivadas I was coming and he he called the attention to a little a tomb a tomb

a tomb very that was a time that was a man while much time

there I know the majority if not is that all the tumbas and I know I

know perfectly how they was a one but this tomb was like moving

like the lapid they had moved and he he said he then he

he said probably they were profan for to be a tomb and someone

he has he had Elena Salazar 192 1930 He said a little bit out of the under

because that number no he's sonnable and he he knew the tombs and he said many years

working here never had heard that that name but something when he he intends

when he did comeodar that he got to see a little to be something on the attention over the

top of the lapida there was like a grieta no see that's a question and he decided to

move more the lapid and he did a kind of like that was like that was

that he was a tearita to get and he he went to the casetta

he took a pic and for some reason he decided scabar he

he no know because but he took the need to he

he did count that in the few those GOLPES, the

earth started to end up to end up effectively it's like a way

there and he the earth and see a a a caja

a made of a very very very very that's

that you see that he's that's that's that he's he

he he got he he made the in the emboldtory

the pasta was like he found a relicario

and the photo of a photo of photo, in the part of back, there was

like a text written, it was like a card in manuscript. He la he was, and I will be to

hear in this moment for the people who is talking this. The card said, if some

day you can't you know, you'll know, don't be in peace,

because I'm just never could say to what happened. I'm was assassinated and

they're they're I'm my spirit no descanser until he

when he read this text he went a good rato observing the photography

yeah very very damaged by by the water for the water

he he decided to guard all he he he

he chose he he he he But, over the card, it was written for someone

that was when they said no I can't in peace, not descanser in peace until that can't my

vengeance. All the day he was thinking in that all the day was doing what is it was doing

a drama I don't know. He went to his house, he went to his

he went to but he was thinking in that no, no, So he was in his

head that idea and even a madrugada decided to return to work

because no I'm thinking of thinking in this really was like an

advertency for someone. In an occasion passing the days and

trying to forget the time he came very very

to the pantheon it was a morning very free

there had much neblin and he when he

he started to do to revise some things and decided

to visit the tomb of this woman when he he's going to

a minute the neblina was very spesa very dense see

a silhouette of a woman and the woman, he was coming

but but he was to the hand to two the

woman went and little a little so to go to

disappearing, but like it was to go to where they were in the stumbas old old their

his image was disbandecing and he when he when he's very very long, he decided

to see it to see it to know to say, but he went to there's like that

disappeared. That image got in his head for much time,

I know he had seen, if it was a phantasm if it was really a person

that was going or that went to but he had two children of the

Man, never knew what what was what was in reality until after after after

a time he's heard of a notice very tragic as the

people is very little so two two children

of a family that that call big biggeras

had died in a form very strange the the

children had more or the age like the

image that he had seen that he he was

he he then he he he's he he's a little

very scalofriant for so that was a family very powerful intocable

and he's started rumored that the parents of these these

children that were two two brothers of romual and

reinaldo had been been responsible many years after

the assassino of a woman that first the

Two, they were and they were so then this man, this pantheonero

of the name Tomas knew that the card was a advertency but not for him

it was for the people, that were with the life of that woman

and they did where the most they in the children no

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Price excludes flavored iced coffee and delivery. Yes. It's It's a lot of course that in occasions of the Pantheon also have told stories or has come out of

that they're getting agarrand no, objects that don't use. That's not prohibited. Yes, yes, yes. Some of us don't know, and at a little a bit of

ignorance and the tragedies and they do they do you directly. But the

interesting of this is the lamentably the period of the life of Elena the

how it for to cover vengeance? So it was like the film

no, it's like from the infamund or a place where there no

there was there was a time, but the image of the I don't know that has been

obviously it's been the spirit. So, you know, or he goes,

that's a great, and what's it's really too. For all a lot of the story.

I have a story that's that's with a family, and the history

and the story comes to the story the story the made Aida, and the courier

and the first of the same way. Yadira is just pertated brutally

by a nausea very agued. It's He was up. It was in the madrugada. It was like

at the two and four. It's enderese and he and he turned to

and he's a little to get to get to get the light and the oxy, go to

the bayon and he a little of alcohol and a ballde. We know that these

things are very feas. He to talk the head and resulta that he has been

much fever. He the car, let the met the ban to be in the

regadera because he had high temperatures and this is very very

so he he has continued having mal-stairs she she she

the reason of this is that months before they had had had been

a boy his his little more than two

months and he's complicated this this try to

system immune was very bad. But this they had maintained in secret.

They were of the people who was not the problem to the rest of the

family. This is a situation that we are not necessary that the other

to know. Aunado to this situation, Alonso had had been his

work. It was practically a mal rach for the family.

But there a secret of Yadira that no he had said to the espos,

even they're secret. Resulta that in this era where she had been

had been feeling very bad had a past constant. She was

very little and what you mentioned there's a time.

There people who like to be in the pantheon. But there people

but there but it's a thing. And it was something. The pesidia commensable

she was always she visualized in the pantion where they were very

specific all the details. You know, that in the pantions have some they're

accommodated to the stumbas. And conform I was going to more, it was a kind of

a kind of mental. That's not the aterrador of the dream. The aterrador

of the dream is that at the front in a vered, be a woman

with the rostro diffuminado and his roba a little sucia. In the

the man right had a tarpala and with a tarpala he pegged the soil

and with the hand left he said this. This he caused a much

fear for his situation of the situation of the situation that's that's

that he makes to think to you when when you when you when you

see a man in a cemetery with a tarpaling the earth

sure maybe my days are told so this this

he's he said Alonso and Resulta that in these days

there's a time of the girl. Perla is the Mama of Yadir. How

you guys? Well, fiatte that I'm going to see. Yeah, okay,

we're going to we're there's we're there's a pacto between spouses,

not to talk the situation. Lerla and he says, how has been,

well, guardadit all, all in secret to pce to his state

to the He said, Oye, it's much time that we have to clean the

stumbas the time. So I think of the abelos to get. We're to go.

Me accompanies, that we have your brother, Monse, and maybe there's there's a

little bit of the sonse. And Alonso for the state of the same of his husband,

was, something to get her in reality she had a species of depression. She

was aiselabab not he not to go to say, maybe

a bad or a good idea and at not know what

he's he's he's yeah, maybe you're to be to be

on the other day to the other day to the manse the grandmother

of Yadira and Daniel the son of two

years Yadira and Alonso yeah they're they're they

they're they're they they're that they had seen in the

the all is exactly how he had started so on the this is to generate a nervousism

to get a year they're to get a time to they're in the abelos they're to get in

machetes and the spas and each of everyone was in an activity and

they're she he's the bloweteo of the fire and

and yeah this he puts very very nervous and he's

he's he's he's sposo that is limping the malice. This

he recalls the woman that's going to the tarpala no.

So, her man has got to do that he starts to be a bad,

to feel to say, you know, I'm that I'm but not he was saying the fact,

nobody said, I'm going to go to go to get a to come, me

I'm going to give to go and he's, he got the little

Dami. They're can't caminand for the passios and of these flashbacks

and this temor he invade and he's to hear again see again, and he's

a maria, he's over a tomb and he says to his subrino be for

help be for your family be for my husband and the little

he's but in direction contrary in the place to where the

family he's at the final the the final the you

that you see how the little he's going to doble to the right.

And in that instant when doble to doble to the right only he was the coogette

and the headita and yeah. And more a man with the

man who has been the hand. The arm and with the arm

his left he was doing he was doing to the little. In that that he

says she he's he's to be to be and he has still

the forces to get to and get to go his his sobriene and he

starts, no, Daniel. How he's how the he's and the moment

in the moment to get over the stumbas, for that the man don't he does when the little

the little the nene is that tally the rodia and in that instant says Yadira

that all all what was around was like if you had had been muted to the scene

like if they'd had cuted the no I don't absolutely nothing

only only I'm the labos of his subrino grittando all I'm sorry

she's she'll see to see the man that has the tarpala

in the man and the man is he gets being looking to

on the earth and she and she he he makes so but she

she I be that the little gesticulah but he he's

the sonido starts and the The kid He said, me tropece with that.

She see in the soil a species like a rama or a assa,

maybe. And the man he says, Salte dey. She starts to what is

this raise that in reality was a was a force and conform

he was going to go and going going to go a bolz in this

instant he gets Alonso Doa Perla and Mons and see

how so the box that's the box and it's a photographia

and the and the day of his boda the day of the photo, and then there's

there's and then the other and a last some they're that when

those they're they're some and some some marks like of the

stuff is saying the mom of Yadira you know the sometimes they're

they start to persina and God, what's going? Yadira

no I don't know what was going to and he said, what's the he's that they're

in the pantheon. They've had done a job. But how you know, you know,

he said that, and I don't say nothing, the only that says that I'm he's, he's,

and I'm saying to say, he came to talk, he came to, he came to get just to

this casetta that you mentiones of a man that he's proportion the call

they're they're they're they're they And he says, the mom to Yadira, how have been because this not a gratis. Sure.

No is normal that they're going to be passing for a good rach. And there, Yadira, they put in the eyes yoros, and he confies to mom that had had been a baby. Imagine that scene, no? And yeah, when they're going, at the out of the door, I see a quadro in a

mess. Yeah. And he said Yadira the man who he. Who is he?

He said he's Don't Genaro. He said for you have seen. No?

No. Just I just I'm just his eyes and he says, sure?

He says yeah. Dice is that Gennaro there's many stories that

he's there's but so it to give for to make to make

okay. When Yadira they they're they they're they

they when they the family of the place, and Adira he said to his

husband, I've had been a peshtia and always I'm going to the man, but I thought that he was

calling, because my days were told us. I know that I wanted me, I had been interrado.

Beastia. I mean, obviously, they were, obviously, they were trying, and he was showing

and it's rare because no, I'd not heard because I had seen, and he

did so, and he a person, I think I think that, if you can interpret to interpret a little different, but if you see that you

definitely think that it's like an advertency for you, for your life, no? Yeah. That's

really, you know, when they have to be, the kids, if it's something that, I mean,

I've been two stories that have to be with this, it's very... And apart the new,

how is going to be going to go to where is the thing? It's very really

really, I'm, Look, I have a story that is interesting and me makes think in two things. Number one,

the persons that experimented in a place but that has to be with the history of the place. The place

has a legend and for something is a legend. And two, the people that in a moment

of their life experimented something, but that when they're experimenting not they don't know that is

something paranormal, but a situation not a situation cotidiana. This story is called AYuda and pass in the

state of Chihuahua in the panteon municipal of there. This story, the protagonists

are two young of 17 years, the name Roger and Wichho. They used

constantly they'd have to dovers and make It was very bromists. They were passed from a

time when molesting some people and over all in this time when they were vacations

because they'd have been they're all the people coming and doing

doing bromas burlandos even of some people and in one occasion

they took to see something they're going going and

they're going to a woman that came a man

he he was passing in front of the pantheon

this senior had approximately about about 50 years vestia of a camisa of

a caris and a pantalone color coffee. What he would be a question is that the man

of his piernas he felt he felt about the pantalone was like remangado

and to know to know that he felt about a person and they

when they they didn't not put to not even to make to make a

this man this sir passed to his side and they

continued They continued coming. Caminarily some minutes when of a

minute when they he said a great and he gritty they're

they're they're they're they're and they're that this poor and they're

going to he said what he said what he said he's I'm

despojian and they're getting to get used someone had passed

he had been He was to scounder the pantheon. They're surprised. So, of who's going to do you,

a man, entered to the pantheon to look who the person. But something when they

came to this man. Not only he felt about a pair. Also, he felt about an o'ho,

but his brasos and part of his rostro had cicatrices very raras, wheyes very strange.

The description that they done is like if this man, like if his

skin had rasped with something had been like it's but

yeah of much time they're they're chakrises so they're

just they get a attention but they're worried for to find

a person responsible of that one of one of he went to

and he to look to be to get to somebody to be a person

which which one of this man so this other another roger

entered the panteon He wentrored, no, no, he went to nothing, he said, well, no, no, no, no, be a nobody. Decide, then, then, to look at the fronteons,

to see, for there, there's somebody, he went to look at, no, he went to anybody. In that moment, they're, they're saying, no, well, no, no,

we're, no, we're, we're, we're, we're trying to the policeia for that can, for that he'llcili, and for that investigate, And the Lord

He responds No, no, no is necessary. They never do you never make their

work. In that moment, then they feel like compassion for the Lord and

he says, I'm going to get to the pantheon certainly for some

that's that's that's he's and that he's he's got Roger

there with the other and Wichch went to the Pantion to

get to get to and then Don Felix, a pantheonero and he said,

oh, you know, he's not seen a person who passed with mulletas, someone

that's someone who was there was a man out of that's there's a little

he's a little a and this person he robbed his mulletas. Don

Felix he's got the history no put a car like of but

he's a little he's a little He says, what? D'am me the description of this sir. Yes, a manse of quadras,

pantalone, coffee, that he's a little a little bit, he was left a eye, and he was coming. And one person, or one person

he robbed the mulettes and entered to the panteon. And this person, Don Felix, he gets callied, and

he says, and where is the sir? He got out out of my my friend, we're going, they're coming

and when when they're on the front of the pantheon, there in the entradita only was Roger

solo and he's and the he said I was that I'm going to five minutes here

he said he was going to do a world here to I don't see but in no

no moment he passed and he not he he said no I go to the panteon

no I'm no I'm but how it's possible that that he's he had comeinated

so he had lastimated and he had lastimated and Don Felix that was

listening all this only like that's a riz a

little sarcastic and he this phrase not is the first

that's a thing. Yeah I've heard in a part

of occasions of a man with exactly the

same descriptions that they are and when they're

to they they don't disappear. These chavos listening

that story not they they're they And they're not only they're not only

they were the Lord, he talked and they were a person not a person, not

he was a person and they're to ask and who is this man. And he

is that Don Felix the pantioner he responded and many years that person that person

that you saw from a form very tragic first disappeared and then

then appeared but they had cuted the and he felt about a boy.

He went to vote to a place but he went to survive he went to

put to put to a denuncy but unfortunately the authorities

never they never they're not and however at

a little time this man he's but in a

little some arbust they were an altar on the altar

there was a whoso a femur and an aho many people people

think that's that's the parts of the body of this but the

people not about because mentioned that they were that was

and the people and he had been he had been able to do a person

and he said but well this is a legend that

was a when I were a little so that that that was

a much time back. These these kids are looking and they

don't they're they're and resulta that they have passed

many that's that that so years that these

two people they have exactly six months and

it's impressive how an thing that happened and

many many years and more more of 10

years this still occurring until the day of today to

this panteon of Chihuahua the legends never die. It's

tragic and the thing to a agent specific they appear

or they do that stuff because not anyone have

this experience how times sometimes we've been we've

been a pantheon and not we not to say

to say to say to to say to a sector of the population that are a more sensible or have this

this sensibility or this faculty to be to look at these people or these entities, no, that exist in these places, that are very enigmaticous at the final of the but I'm going to pass much to Al-Oskar and I'm

sure that too you've got to think, the people that's topa with mortals, I've mentioned many times, it's impressionant these encounters because you don't you know

that the people is a person it's a person it's a person, it's a brasas,

you know, it's material it's not really it's a person that's a person that's energy

and for much that's that's he has got his energy, it's got his

and it is what that's what there's that's what there's a bit a bus or

that you're that's sufficient for to be the After of

many is something that I'm a am I'm because the people

when it's like a person real imagineate they're they're they're

they're they're they're and they have repeated that the people

the people the people but never they're never that's

that's very that's very that's very so I'm so I'm

a case I'm I'm I'm you I'm I got there I went to

the street and from the and where she is a kind of a place of a cajohn and I

cross the and before to get to my I'm going to but the sheora is

all the her my my friend our friend is all the face of

the her but with hair with this this issue so I

pass for there and the she says good afters. And good

after. I said, yeah, I talked to the door, and we put us to talk to the and we said, I said, hey, I see a one a woman

like, you that was going to the street. And I'm saying, and I'm saying a photo. Dice, is my

oldita. And he's to say, but I don't know that you've seen, he said, he said, I did my

good, I said, my abelite in much time. Oof. And I, I don't is

certain, and he said, is that is that never we've seen the abel

this chomaca because of a little bit of because I mean I'm sure I'm trying to but

no, result that the abel yeah had failed so I said that we did you

good as you know imagineate no one a one once a situation

that I going to talk so like that so a sometimes

there are things and I don't that's sure that I'm

I'm sure that the something something in the, in, in other rollo, your thinking is in other

other thing, this, you know, one of the occasion, I was going I was out of my house,

the house of all of my wife, and at a few meters of our house,

the of our colony, there was a there a there, a tinder, or there

the signora that had that time, uh, we know, all the time that I

would I to buy the mandator, no, that the tortillas, that the cheese,

that the Leche. The senior I know and I had been to talk about

to talk to me with people and my wife too. And precisely the year past, in

the 2022 she falleces unfortunately to cause a cause a disease

degenerative and it was a very strange because that's to go to get to

and to say a second a second I was this year I'm attended

me despatch me me vendio but yeah no, it's a other

person, his his and it's very rare the sensation you know, and say,

this person was for and it's that person my family, my my wife, my

wife, we we're going to get to the school and we we're going to be about over the

hour, over the and the and the mind is to oh, we're going to let's get

to get to this and the other, oh, the water, this and we're cabinet, and so, rapid-isim, and my husband

to walk out of the other, and he says, we'll say, no, I'll say, no, but we're going to say, we'll go, we'll go, we'll see, don't know, but we'll go, to him, I go, to whom are you, I'm talking. Dr. Marta, and I was barriending the entry of the house. I go, my amour, think to what you're saying. Because I was with, and she's

said, and she said, do you, regressate, and me, I've done, I mean, I go to reverse. I've, I've, I've, I've,

I'm going to know, no, no, he said, Paco, was this man,

and I was doing the same the same that's the morning, that was a scovita, a scovita,

a scovita that I had out of the portico, and she put to barren her, to accumulate

the basura, the car and I recoged and she and I gave barriending and I say,

me, me ask you. You're going to ask you. See, Adieu. And she put to yell at my spouse, you say,

is that in the video, I go, I go, calmate. Tranquilister. And you're that's that my mind

was in other other thing, and as it was a very recent, so I'm really? So,

like, you know, like, so, like, it's impressive how, what,

what is, what is, what is this, that's, that's, part, Is it's is very

sensible of the theme spiritual too. Yeah. I think

I think it has to be much with a don to be a person that yeah not to be in cause to cause

it too. Because this where's that's a where you. That's really. I'm

I'm going to tell a story. It's the story of Edwin. Okay. Edwin

was a young and was passing for the process that all we know

as a first chambh and I was looking work and and by

his my dad he went to a pantheon he was studying, he was working

and he said I'm going to put to the house and also I'm going to go ahead

for me no he gets the place and there was there there too

there were some many some of many more more more more much more

more than than he he costed time to start to get to get

to some were enter in this circle, no, of relations of the

work. And, and then they were their activities. You know to do that stuff.

At the final, he was in category of a student. And, and then,

but they was a little bad at beginning. Sin however, one of

those, Don Chui commenced to be a little more more than him,

connected and coincidia that as he was advanced of age.

His activities not required much work. Okay. I'd

for there. He'd probably help bailing and he had

other things. So Edwin commens to get very well

with the sir. Passed some the first two years, the first

was adaptable to all the process and conversed much. This

conjevow to have to the classic conversation and the doubt that

surge in this work. Edwin he asked to Don Chui

oh, Don Chui and you've seen things raras or

paranormal here? And Edwin says that the old he

made to a risa a little sarcastic ha that

I've seen I'm and they're to talk in this

instant in that they they were talking they took a break

like the other and they're working for other other he was he was

with the man he had had been much time and he's

part of the work you you're doing this category

that you can say that so so so and

they're and they he said look there there there there

there not I didn't not so I'm I'm

I'm I'm the Pronto get the people to to

get to his diffunters and conformed I saw I'm seeing the

people and began to have visions but these visions

major was more was with people that had

suffered much in his murder at at the

first he took a little sometimes of more of

the more of when When he came to the tomb justly of a woman he said Don Chui

that he started how they were violent and they were and how they tortured

this not he was it was all the but all the contrary that

difficult is to have an image like this he took to be a part

also where how they'd how desivian a man for

a ritual and every every time that I had every story is going

much more more tenebrosa of Don Chui and Edwin so he started

to get to and he and he he said and when he started to see

this and don't Chui he's to start to hear and he said

like almost six seven months before that me

and said Edwin that Volta and he's the He was living. And in that he goes to

Don Raul and he says now the chamaco put him to work, because all the time you're talking about

or you're going to you're going oh manches and say no I'm talking with Don and Don Choo

and Don Choo and he's he's not if Don't Choo and he's not if Don't Chooy he's about three years

and he says no but if I was because I know and he he's just he's like he's like

he's like he's he's all they're all they're Chooie, the Chooie is with Diosito. It was the

last time that Edwin was working in the Pantheon. But when he made this Correo,

lamentably he'll go to go to the place. Because they were to his papa. Uh-huh.

Falleceo of Edwin that Edwin is a great and he said that he's going to don't Chooy.

Still there. Yeah, in the Pantion. Wow. What? He leco, no.

And what Triste also in the same time to live that type

of experiences I mean it's a something that I think if any that's any of the

first of is to tell it with that with that with that that that's

that that's that they're that they're you know you're you're you're just

you're you're just you're imagineate the two times and the bandion

the batto he's talking about with someone and the other being

It's a little rarro because I was solit. No, manches, my friend. Look, me record a much to this story that I'm going to to tell. Ah, this story is that good.

Oscar. I think just always we're going the best stories at the final. Of that. This story is called Ecos.

I want to mention something. When I have called with various investigators of the theme paranormal,

of Mexico, and of other parts of the world, always there a question, a phenomenon

that the people start when they're when they're they're in my case spantant

because they're in the especially it's over all it in the schools.

No is that the those velators pass these things, pass on

those and they there's there's like a formula or a way to interpretal

there. There's many people that, especially the people, the energy of the

people, the gritos and are quarters that sometimes they're and they're and they're

a bit of a little bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of the sound rebota or the words

the words of the words like chocan with the paredes and in the moment that probably

the wind open a open a the sound the sound and the people

hear the people hear the they're so they're echoes but existiran

echoes that duren years Something impressive. This story the story that

he but no he this is this is his father when he was when he

was 18 years his father he called Roman Cruz his his

his time in that in that then I'm in busk on a job he had

had had been experience laboral as an general I'd have in a bodega,

I'd work in a company that vendia refreshos, he'd cargave and discargave, and I'd experience in all that, and I'd want them very well that type and that rhythm of the time. But,

but, unfortunately, in the city, in the people, in the municipality, where they'd, there'd be a lot of opportunities. And he'd

go to a work in a job, no, he'd find out, until in the periodical view the

option of an panteon in the panteau municipal and he said well

I never I've never I need to the job the pay it was not much

but he didn't it too was much what you have to do you simply

simply limpear the umbas vigil to get there like

a little control of the people that not no no so

no entered to work. Since his first day, he top with two

men, Don Chucho and Don Chucho and Don Joaquin. Two old yeah,

the lobo-de- mar that had much much time working there.

And they gave some advertisements. They said that they said, that could be they're doing

they're not they're saying, no's he's not in nothing of this then,

he said, surely me want to spantar. And, and the actually, yeah,

when I've had been a year, he was doing, he'd know that these two

men, they were stories of terror. And so, they were when Roman was

there, and he thought, he said, and he thought, these people,

they're to talk things of terror, when I'm when I'm suream me want

to be there's there was the guardia of the night, and he

said, and no less strange, I don't I'd know I'd know they're none, they're

many those old old pastes of lance that they would be spanked

me. One day happened something a strange. Roman

was he was playing the tumbas he had talked

was a was a part and he he had talked the

part north some umas that had had much

time not he had had there had been a

there was there was there was podar. So, I prepared, me I went very

and I went to clean that area. He said, I was coming when when the repented

when I heard a really a very a long the called the word or mudo

like, like, like no terminate to say, and I know,

I'm to get to gudis the o'id and I heard about like

and he but there not so there, not so seniors, no, and he says, these these guys, surely me want to

espantar. No, me van espantar. He continued caminando, termed his functions, pod, some ramas of the arbor, and it was used, barrio, sacudio, pinted some

lapid, so he was he put, and all the rato he was talking those gulpes. He said, these guys, don't me

want to be spuntar, those will ignore. Passed. At the day the day he regress to his journey

normal, to continue with what he had faulted and notaminted when I was passing for that part

that area he said those most but these times more fertes but in this moment

not were in these two seniors his companions not were with him then he did

know that the no was a not a not a problem he he's like

he starts the eyes trying and he began to hear to hear

And at the same time, a gritty aoged that said, help him out of here. And he he's spanta

and he he's heard perfectly the voice of a person. In that he was to see the

room and he came to a he gets the o'id and he he's heard the

sound so, there's there and he grita there's there

there's there there's there there and he was going to to go to

where were the two the two gentlemen, don't Chucho and Don Chucho and Don

Joaquin and he he's one of the picko and he doesn't there's a

person that's there's and then they're and then they're and this

chabing where is the tomb and desperated try try to try to do

the first pickotas and one of the one of the men he's

he took to the he's he's he's he's he he's

he molest he He says, sir, there's a person interrata live here.

There's to say it. I'm still listening. And this sir he says, heho,

no do you do you don't is what you think. But why we don't we can open it?

And it's when this this he says this I'm going to say, look

Roman, when I began to work here many many years we

we've we've process and things similar in other stumbas and we

we're we're and the only that we're we're ones. Only the

rest of humans. No, there's nothing. And we we've we've been

that we're to know to do you but you know you know you

see the face of this person he's he not he had seen

in the road I'll to look to see the lapida and this person had been more of 20 years that had been

interrada. Roman? Confuso because he's got the really clear and now his companions

are in that tone so in serious and he's no can't be. And if he'll be

to read another last the lapida and said Jose Martinez Fece

of 574 more of 20 years and he says Don Chucho,

and he has to the fecha. And he said, but how is possible if it

I'm not I'm not I'm don't he's he said, he's we're

we're we're we're we're we're but it's more than an echo

a lamento a grito in the time that this this time

you took to listen to you but it doesn't you

No, you're going to understand. Simply, ignore it. Recurrected the words in a principle, if you're going to do you ask. This time, not we do

do we say, but we're saying, in serious. The panteau not only only guard the bodies, but also the

ways of the almas that not found in the past. In this moment, there is

to be more of the diffunters, more Since then, Roman was the last time that regressed

to the panteau and this story to do you to share the son that is the

person that is the podcast experience of your papa. Wow. No, a story

incredible, man. Yeah, the very intense, it's very very very

really. What are you do? If you you'd do you talk to live

an experience for this? I think I would have the

no, no, I would have, no, me would have enfocated in the fecese of the fallycement, would have done exactly the same agacharme,

to hear, and if I would have heard of those grits, the reaction is, what desperation, if Iyer it's got

24 hours, thinking, perhaps confusamely that, that he was that's got to enderran, no,

it's, it's, you're, he's, he's, he's, the desperation, for secar

someone, but get to the surprise, that's a tomb has sealed more

than 20 years. It's a ball of the air that you get to there.

There's there about the myth of because is the salvado

for the campana. Exactly. But this person wants to say, man

that was that is was a life in some he was

he was he eventually he was trapped to be

very strange no well not Man, a suffering. The kiddarty there atrapado,

not for an error, maybe a diagnostic. There are people one of a documental that I don't remember if it was National Geographic or one of

those canals where there moments in in a part of South America that were to start tumbas

and there was a man that is a trauma that I have terrible many, many tumbas, many tombs

that when they'd open for the madera was rasgadas

and had in the madera the desperation of the people to be

there's and they're and the unasas all so they were so you

cuted and the disperation that's one of my great phobias

so I so I'm claustrophobic but imagine you enterado live

and that nobody you don't me me Yeah, I feel a little bit a little bit, but that

desperation is impressionate. You have a point of the being to be cremado. I'm going to tell you to talk a story

of Don Ascensio called Don Chencho. Don Audenceo, Don Chancho was justly in a pantheon and fiat

that something to tell you had to tell there were rumors and these legenditats that

they're sometimes in the I don't go to the side, not you do you do you

do you and they they're and they're not you know you go to the

side of the pantheon and not let's man there we we're

we even even even even even even but he said but

why you don't you in that in that space no

you not you make so there's there's there these

me just me not about you tonto and some reason no

that's me want to or whatever but he he had a fixation

to see that's that he and he and I'm he said I'm that he

had a little no in the redaction he said that was not

interesting nothing relevant simply it was a a space

like about about two two four four two

two he he and he He started the malice that had

of the place. He began to get to get to even he was

to get the because the area was a really to put some

some that's that that's beautiful and he and he and he

he starts and after that he's to live some

some situations paranormal normal don't chencho had his

equipment of his pala of a every when I was a

cuba of these of lamin and I try there his utensil his tigieres and he

said that he's a one way and he put the pala over a place and

he's a voice but it were some voices and they the point he

fell in the and he he'll look to see if there's there some

they're so they're so they're they're recoged the

and just when recoges the Pala, he's the gulpeteo

of the lamin of the cubeta. Like, like someone had pateated to the cubeta.

And is what is what's going to get the stuff, go to get to that's

like, maybe some of my first experiences paranormal here. And yeah, well,

he also, he didn't he simply he percino, he went to another other side, he went to

the site where they put all their things, and he says, when he

Pronto I'll hear these Rises and see in the paris,

where he had had called his machete and the machete and the machete begins to

the door to the door of the wall. All this was very rare. If I

told to his companions, ohion you don't have done, no well,

well, well, well, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, one of them said, I did, you, I'm to get

to the one that you didn't, that he's, he, he, he's to go to his

house, he's and he's talking to hear these rises and he despirte,

he begins to look at in his room, no, he's doorme, all the

other day to go to work, and of there's a group of people, and he

back of them, what they do you, just the two of the morning that are

some of the or in house or in the school. Or the school. And hey,

chomacos, what are doing here? Atras and they were in the stumbas and this

commenced to desperal him. He says to his companions I'm seeing some

I'm doing but you metista the place where we said that you don't you

get you for this in the nightes and he he's with a baby,

with a with a little, and the nene in the my sonno he says

thanks for we're and he he's and he's and the other day

go to the other day and then then he starts again and he begins to hear

again the voices of the the the place to a

to brot a to prott a pasto new all this is it's

it's is a is a The last dream that

took Don Don Chencho he said he was just in the court and that in the

place there were many people and that one of the majorcito he said he said

they were they're they're you have you've you've we're sometimes we're

sometimes we're don't chench the other day to go to a place specifically

and he commenced scarv and he encounter lamentably rest of

the rest of osios of the people. Those they were interrower for

and nobody could have the place simply was a legend that you not

you know but it were because they were the work where they've involved to have

and thenes. And a part of there, Don Chensho go and he has uh

offrendas for the menes that were there don't know how time they

had they those or cults were occupied for rituals. What

what's what I'm kind of courage, of the really. And, and,

so, I'm so I'm so I get to words, because we'll

to the same, all the time, no, the mald of the man,

let's get to a little, no, and that the little, so,

his energy that's pure, stay there and He's a great of his nature of his naturalness of

a lot of that's been pretty feo, the fact of the fact of in this space or time and that's

like at final as you know that someone didn't that nobody's he said he was his shus

his shus his shus but don't chencho but they were in these these people

that were trying to play with him more than more than to do something

that at the final he found he was they were in company no

yeah And... That's a feo. What's the episode? How do you know? No, man. Always is a lot.

The stories are very times. They're emosionate. They're aterradoras. But, always it's a mess,

contending the stories that they're about the through the story that I'm going to do that I did it.

I was all all the story that's story that's me pego. But I think is part of this. I'm sorry of this.

I was incredible. Oh, O'Y, Oscar. Thank you for accept this invitation. We can't repeat to other

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calaveritas if you get to the final of this episode, you know, you know,

you know, the form in the way that you know, because there are things that are

so far that the people decide to pause and say, I think I think that just

here I'm going to see to the final let me know that I will be able to be there

going to be there's and for a forgets to get to the channel, my name is we're going to

see you the next bye bye bye