EXTRA ANORMAL - Sacrificios Humanos en Construcciones: Quedaron SEPULTADOS en la Obra

Episode Date: February 4, 2025

En este impactante episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, Paco Arias y Erick exploran uno de los temas más oscuros de la historia: los sacrificios humanos en grandes construcciones. Desde antiguas civilizaciones hasta relatos modernos, descubrimos cómo algunas edificaciones han requerido el derramamiento de sangre para su finalización. ¿Mito o realidad? Acompáñanos mientras revelamos las historias más escalofriantes de este inquietante fenómeno.🏗️ Prepárate para conocer los secretos ocultos detrás de monumentos históricos y edificaciones legendarias. ¡Suscríbete y no te pierdas este episodio de terror y misterio!#ExtraAnormalPodcast#SacrificiosHumanos#ConstruccionesMisteriosas#HistoriasDeTerror#MisterioSacrificios Humanos en Construcciones: Historias Reales

I'm a sentiment, you're your but I took the opportunity to with a

pico to cross a man to one of them and they they're to excavate

in that part exclusively all the world we include on that

that that that I think it was like a

one hour and and he's a person to

the The impressionant, Paco, is how gritted, because when we we got it, I go, we'll get us, because it was not, no, no, no, no, no, I took to haul it, but if it was near me, it's full of cement, for

the inside, for the inside, so I was the cement. Lo, I was. Those were, and if you know, when you started, you, I'll be my eye of the, of the, the record, and

discarned, Puck. What I'm going to be able to be a lot of people. Anormal. My name is Paco Arias and I'm very happy to be here with all of you. Family, I'm mentioner something. This episode is very special because me accompany a person that, to be really, he has to experimented the phenomenon for Anormal

of a form incredible. And for this, I want to give a context, yeah is very known, that the great constructions require sacrifices human. These great pundits, these great edifices

those constructions magistrales normally are in much mystery of much obscurity

and is that some people those who are testigues of when there are people who are the

work and not they're for this episode me accompanied a person

that was working I'm working and he took to be

much of what I just I Mr. Eric, how how is? What are?

Good night. A good night. A lot of the invitation. Thanks for accept the invitation. Thanks for start with us.

At the contrary, thanks to you. Family, as well, I mentioned in a principle, prepare. It's an episode very special.

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and well I'm a very we're talking a series

of stories before to start the first of these

great mysteries that envuel the constructions those pundes.

We're here we've talked many times of the we're

we're saying we're something or someone that is

a tribute or a sacrifice if not the work

not not the building or the building or

any construction no can be to even there

there there and when there there there there

is when they can conclude what of this. It's correct.

Look, these vences, the most antioed that I'm not in this world,

and in peace but I'm in peace, but see that all that all that that's that's

that he was a three years, he got very so he did he did he

was very little. He was a person of a person of this three that we

had the three that we was the chief of area. Okay. So, so

So I was talking one of those stories, because I was not a major, but she was a little,

it was too and I'm advanced, exactly. So, I said, I'm going to tell you a

story, and I'm a little to tell you, I'm a one, my father, I've got to

me to you, 14 years. Yeah. I said that in that construction, there are

some of those cartines, so one of those And no way to put it, well,

for more that they me chas a mess, a pietra, all the you know, it's a

construction, no it was when I'm when a time, in the turn of

the night, he was a man was a man, a man, a for watt,

so, so, for years that one no, no, no, no,

not so with a personelelment and a and he He went on the Encargated in that

in turn he took to my father and he said that the person and he said the

words the words of my father, they're they're not, they're not,

no, not have done to the construction of the cortines that have effectively

not they're not going to come? No? No, not to get?

Ah, I need three. And my my father so I don't know 30,

what? I need to 30 and said my father that he'll open a portfolio with money in effectio my father

desacado of the end no he's he took a loco and there he he

he was a day at the second day he took the same person

to the other other company carolabat turn same the same situation

same history, the same is 30. Well, then the last occasion, in the third occasion,

and said my father, that came to the architect, and he did the negotiation with the person.

They were they were about. But the encargated of that work, he said,

that the collado of those parts we're going to manage them like, I'm going to

after the 10 of the night. He said, my father, that came in their were the

old, they were a little more, um, we're, um, we're,

but, were the camions, and in each one of those four parts or cimbras, there were,

there were seven people where they were the concrete, so, so, so,

Vibos. Vibos. So, my father posteriorment understood that were 30. 30

almas, 30 people sacrificed that in that was that was that immense.

Fist, that that sounds very very very cruel also, because for some

people, this should be a question, but the reality is that this

theme and this type of sacrifices of how uh, put a these people in, in containers or in

these spaces, for that they're to get all the mess and they're part of this, of this, of this, of this, is,

it's, is something that has been even not only in Mexico, in a grand part of the continent,

even at the other other side, they're they're, the, the, the, the,

the, how the people get to work, especially the people that is

undocumented or documented. Or the community. Or the community. The people of these,

those, those people who are on the man, they're they're like,

and not they don't the life human. And, and, it's

easy, it's easy, not, I don't get to work. There are many

stories that are, for example, of this in fabricas. It's correct,

that that that I said, was that that Us to notar certain things, no? Uh-huh.

I've been working many years after the young in a company of a fabrication of alcohol for a bit. No, we're going to give the number.

We're going to give the name. But me took the construction of some of the torres, for not to give the

number correct, to some where they're two-four hours, where me, in a certain manner, it was an

way, unjusted, Paco, because there chavos that cobrae and never even going to work.

Because it was 24 hours of construction. Uh, no separate because that was over because that

only had to be able in 15 days. So, if they were very good paid,

were three turns. Until the time are three turns. After the time, until the

time, I'm in this occasion, I'm, I'm still still I'm still, but I

still I'm there's because it was up cubitazos. Obviously, no had the oya,

not yet the famous trompa of elephant, no see if you know, that's a tube where is a concrete, the grua

not was a height. So, got to and then to get up. They were on levels.

Uh-huh. So, of every level, so you were ramand with the cimbra.

Yeah, in a, I'm talking about, almost 16, 17, 18, 17,

18, 18, I think. Yeah, because it's, because still, because it's

is more a the work. So that that's one of your other people

do you and there many people of the community of those we're also we're

around and get to pay work. I get to make to make a lot of

you know sometimes not you know but at least they're because diarro

they're on to turn or rollan to you that turn that that occasion

me I'm I remember and if me The Piel, to the Fecha.

One of they were brothers. The appellees I don't no accord, and the numbers

or not, but they were a lot of a time back. One of them of you got over

the topio for the thing to get the cubeta for so to manage it and he's gone

the left. I think that the deseclibrio or what you want to you want to try it

to the other other side there had a cimberes that just was

armando the other part. Barilla and barriias and so the construction

to move to the way we're we know and we're and all the whole people what's

his armament but he forgets the arnaz my esteem so he's to help

to his brother to his but he'll forget to be because we

try we we're all because we try we're all right but obviously there people that had

more facility to start a bit more And others that we had for the peso, the corpulence

according the cimbra's armando. So, so the he's avienta the manno,

pass to this, it's parra the over obviously, to hear gritos, the confusion,

the companions, we've done as we could be, the personnel of that the company

circled and no I don't that we took us we're but the

above in what that had the corpses and those other of those companions

were in the people. So the people who were in the people who said, oh,

but is that where are, oh, what are the not, not are not they're

not appeared in the and they were and they're and they were doing,

and the other day, they're like that's, they're that's, and actually,

we're going to do not, we're not to make some problem, but

there many there many there That's a fabric. That's a fabric. It's that I did a video of that I worked there when

I had 18 years. I worked there and I've been more of 10 years and it's impressive because I've told various anecdotas in this channel and it's the same fabric that I've mentioned but

it's the same that you know, and it's impressive because there's many things there in there. There are people that are there that have been

more of 30 years They've worked from their foundation in that fabric and they took to see things very impactant.

Something that mentioned a much time, I've been mentioned a right. Right,

they have very good protocols of the security. Where are apart of the supervisors of area, the supervisors

of security, and if they've been a, an obrero, without casco, without his wotas,

if his chelico reflexant, they, they're report and they're but has

25 years that's not exactly even I believe I'm to say there's

there are people who have done yeah yeah yeah and I want to

something that so I told a person that I'm a person from the moment

of that he's starting there there's a machine very that's

called bypass or so he's he's it's he's it

he's where it's where it's where there the

department of Yenadona, where, well, as his name, it's all the votes of beer, but it's a crevice

cruda. So, that service that's embolleyed, has a has been a one or two days, and there

is to be to be a time, so to be more extensive the time of causidat, they're met

to this machine in this machine that's like the time of two buses, of long, and two

of alto. So, is great, it's very and, and he caben, millions and millions and of bottles. So,

there's pasteurisa, and it's where the causality and it extends for much more time. So, in

the same time of this, and so many years, there were some departments, cociment, embassado,

the area of the area of because also was where it was the essential to the seabada, the area of

the fertilizer, and the area of the area of mineral, also, that were a lot of all of this

me tooko. And there to do you, to you, to manage you, is that's armable in the famous lines. Yes, it's, it's done, it's done, line one, line two, line three.

I worked in the line eight that produced a service of media, but the history of this person is that in that's when not these departments of security,

there were this group of persons that lavabed and they were to have made to make machines. It's correct. So,

in that then that there was that there, they were this grand machine enormous, that coste the Cereveza and they

They're put in their trage or they're in these car chers these pistols of pressure of pressure of

pressure and what this person me said that I've worked for many years there is that

is that there's a group of five people but we're realistas

there who they're people and I mean me took and I do directly people

people that said for example I think five hours I do do in two I can

do three hours and me doorme out of the no, no it's not so we're realistas

six, fourts frios. Yeah, that's also, there's also.

So, they're so they're they're we're doing this, we're in two, we let us

we're going to let us and soyito then we get into the machine, paran the machine and

what this person me and he's going to go passing a supervisor and a machine a minute

is a peridid is a a peridid a millionaria because this this fabric

produces for every second who knows how many of the service. So, this supervisor

pass, he does know that the machine is a parted, and it and it

does it to chor the button rojo and start to and the people that was there

heard the gritos of these people that were out of but they're a biter

their life yeah right there is a lot to me a lot of protocols

to the machine metes a candado, you make some the key, it has to

come to the supervisor, so it's a lot of things to get to an car, but in

this then just was to press button. Appretal the button. Yeah, because

you know, we're all of the years. Yeah. All of time, because

until the time, entran trains, entran containers, entran containers.

Actual actually is that really now computerized, there a little

more of a little was a manual. Yeah. to me took also

in that time to be a not the company as not to work into the construction of the tunnels

that nobody see that there's there's too I'm in those tunnels and before you know

to mention something I mentioned something I mentioned so I'm mentioned a much time that's a

little you're right you're right you're you're right you're and I'm there's

imagine this it's a time a little two camions and you enter those camos

you get to more can't you get to you know, so if you enter, and you know you know,

you know, but you know, but it's that there's that's, so it's, it's, it's,

it's, and I'm to come to back to start certain, just, I was, so I was,

I was, and I was to get a, to be, and I'm up, and I'm up,

because I'm done a bit more, and it's, back in the madugated, to be, he'd be, And he goes, I mean, I know.

I can't say that I've had a trauma in this situation. Because me took, for the people who know, so, he went to build tunnels for parts. No, we're going to say that all the tunnels, but not sure, they're possections. So in that then, I don't know what, what happened. To make those tunnels, I'd say this is what's imagine of the people, if it's made a surco first of the arena,

where it's tapabas to putturbies and all of that and possibly to get the tunnels. In that occasion me took to start with

some of the person, I don't know if they're that's so that that God that God

that God me still for what that you know, if you do you

do you want to see to the area of because there was there being

having coming to come to you to be to be to get to

they can't So in that then I took that I don't know what's no, I don't know

what happened but some people did the light that they were down the other

other our reaction was to get to rescat I'm so I'm frank

I'm I'm do a sentiment you you're and

you're but I've the opportunity with a pico,

atravesa a man to one of them to get. Evidently he didn't he saw.

Yes, yes, he, I said, he was I, so, I saw,

I'm doing. Ah, but when he perfor a man? No, no. So, so I'm trying

to the man, I don't, no. And, this, and, God,

I'm, he said, oh, oh, no, disculpame, me, he said,

me, said, me salvast the life. And that that's no

It's not. But my life, my family is a And the first also that

I remember and the chas I don't he said to the Paco me,

I'm concliy and I put to I'm died. Foyceion various

people. Not you to say the number but posturably after after this

man he gave the person and all that but I kept year and

I'm made two days of the time for what I've I've

lived and to and to have done To return to go back. To go back. To go ahead. And there's,

there's a lot of say, that does much sacrifice. And no know they're in the sacrifice

what they do they don't go to their houses. For disgrace, the

great, the not, they're in the value human. Right. The value monetary.

Yeah. That's, so, that's, so, and I, and I, I don't.

And I, I mean, I dole. He perfor completely the completely the band, and

it's aque. God, but what, what, what's the man is nothing compared with my

life, no? And the agredercement. Yes. What's really, fiftate that we,

we've heard many have gotten many people of Tuxpec and over all this fabric,

that I know, because many times me pincalood, salutes for, for some

lines of that fabric, many, friends and and oreros they're in the podcast there are

many manifestations there into many and so it's because there's

because there has been that there they're not they don't know they they're

I'm they're in a pyramid of security where where the

most the most bad is like it's a fai no that's

a but what the company is that there is that there

In fact, I don't to say, no, but they're various certificates of the ISO-901 that no has to be to apply to. Sure.

So, as they've got in this pressure to, I remember when I was going to get, we've got four hundred days

in accidents, eh, all's applauding. Mentira. Mentire. Because I, because I, because I,

I took to be people who were people who were in not said nothing, for not the protocol,

the protocol, the fact that they've got four hundred days and to start to zero to a other.

I saw that's that's machucated dead, that were that were that they're

and they're and they're and they're not saying nothing. For not to not that's a

point of five hundred, six hundred, six hundred days, six hundred days in accident. Mentire.

Yeah. Yeah, but not we're not we're saying who is, at the final to the

question. Sure. It's the true, but it's the truth of the business, and not about us

all the people, I mean, I mean, we're to work, to get the

sustento diary, but those who are in the same know what what happens and then

they're going and then they're doing numbers and it's all all right and all all right.

In this point, we'll talk about the manifestations of spirits that there. Because there

there's a line of those lines of production where there there may a number of,

but see of paritions. Look, to me in the personal, as I rollable I

turn there in some moment various types of companies not going to give

numbers. Yes, they're those of the people in general in general

so then I took a company yeah is extinct actually

actually and I know when I said I was I'm going to

let's say after the line to the line to the number for exactly

so exactly so then there were those tarimas of embass of

exportation where they were the montacargas, and not you put a fire because a motor cargast you'd have, eh? Yeah, yeah. If you said, no,

not you'd be you, because you had, as you, as well, you had to comment, the same prism of the production. Yes, and they're in, so, yeah, so, and then you, you had to learn a

passillo that said, this, precaution, cuidado with with, with, with you, and it depended to you, pass, or not

pass, and there you had to end to be scabweeing when, you're you, already, actually, and there are more manners

of security, but I didn't know the other then there's there was many people for those

who know and those who know they're a structure enormous, an d'nambio enormous where

get the trailers and say in the containers of services of export to different parts of the world.

In that then when I came to that area me talked to that turn to talk

a fulano no there's the turn of 12 to 12. And a 12.5, it's used, eh? For what? No, you're going to

tell you. Me, I said my companions, that's, before I'm, you know, I'm just

they were admitting. Yeah, me were admitting. God, I did you good communication

with many companions with many of that of that's a factory independent when the

company, so there's there's a little bit a little a piece. And, yes,

I don't to go to admit a, no, I don't I remember what

Fecha was. But if I remember that were at the

night and I know a trailer with a container

that's going to have to be to a car four

in a container and four other and my my this

my deslindation was check that were those cartons

that they're going to not have to be to export

to do 12, 10 and so So I'm going to do how it's

I'm in chino the world and I'm to hear the voice, but I see the, he'll say,

the what's the what's the thing that's there's not personal, of the company,

that's over the night. It's very a company, yeah. And, and other again,

and I think, to turn to turn around, my esteemate, and you see, you're doing

so, and, like, holding, colgando, that that someone is

sitting. That's sitting in the trave. And I'm in the traves. Well, you know

those are 12, 14 14 meters up to the lamina. It's altissimo. It's

altissimo. And I look up up up and the chavos up right. But we

just we know, we've been and this. And, this, and this, I'm,

so I'm I'm back and I saw, I, I saw, the part to me

I Alcance to to get to the part of where this,

I'm going to go to and I'm subpo and there was where Paco

let me let us go-unos. We went on but we're we're

we're going in the part of the right of the body of the middle body

I'm just I'm I'm and so I'm and it's me and it's

me called the attention me they went on an act

because we area or something? Yes, abandoning but they were in the apod

that said, no, I don't I'm going to four other people renunciated. But it was

like a person? No, it was an adult. Ah, it was an adult. It was an,

after, there was a accident of a person, there was a company that was a type of

andamios. Yes, are very very altos. But this person, you know you got to

say, there was a possibility in the moment to another fria. Yes.

It was, it was easy to work with that night. Stando ebrio, it's a call. Oh, God,

but what form to die of to do you? Not you said to say what happened. It's that is that

is that is being the manifestation is for, for much this is that is for the form in

how, how it said. They're, they're that came over some

lamines, and then you can you can't imagine on the of the most. That's

my. Because in that that, that, that, that's, that's, that's,

that's putting the lamination in that time. That's, that's, there's, there's,

I can mention because no, I've said, I don't say, and not we're going to say,

there's, there's many people, and, so, service, but there lines,

like, like, the most, the most fast, the most fused, it's correct.

The line I recall that the line 2 also and I want to another

that I live I'm when I get a area this there are there are

they're called for apodos never never never never they never or if

it's or if it's to it's the abode the the abode

the and I I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm with

with overers yeah yeah grand and very many many

seniors and I put to to talk with them and I remember

that me done an area and I'm talking about the people that the people that I'm

my area was the most abhorried of all this I'm saying I was saying I was saying I'm

a parador of the bottle of now now for the people that

that means that means for eight hours well seven hours and a minute

because me hour of seven five seven and I

was in an area of a meter a little a little A cubicle little, and to my,

a my right and to my left, pass them. The lines of service. Ah, the lines of service. So, I was there parado, no,

no, I could have sent me, and I'd be and I'd be and I'd send him and I'd be without, because it's can't

so. So, my chamba was to be there being, being how was the service, and I had a gancho like of 50

centimeters, of metal, with a ganchito in the point, and my job was, and my did,

parador of bottle. If in the production that I had a bottle that no, I'd be a parted, I'd come to, I'd have costada. I'd, I'd, with the ganchito, she'd, the levantable. Why, gancho? Because it's the that

comes out of the pasteurisdora. It's a cliente. So, there's risk of work. If you're a levantas with the hand, and tantito, it's with another, p, p.m., it's vidro. It's a bottle of video. It can't perforer

the hand, or you use wands, you can perforer the want, you can't you can't cut a man or something so,

so, and then it's always always the thing, there's

there's where the production was a little and and then you know,

you know, you have to the, the transportator and you see past bottles and you'll pass

bottles and you'll pass bottles, you'll be you're all you're all and you and the

really much people is to say the job the job more that's not sure

that's being seven hours and media, Bottas pass.

You enter like an hypnosis or something and you're going to and you're going to be in a trance or a

dream. A relaxation. It's a relaxation. Well, that this time, I remember

that the chamba was very tranquil, the work was there's there's a chambu

unasu because there accident, yeah he's goto and it's a lot of all the

thing is very stressante, the factory is to I was all supermently tranquill. Still, I was

a carried of two pilares and re-cargated to enter in this relaxation, looking the

transportator, looking, and I remember that my eyes were to be able to pass the Cereveza

and the back of these transportators to be that it passed a little like of

four years that I'm in Shorsi I remember very in Shorsito color rojo and a camisita

a black sport, so, like, and I remember that he gotcha his headita for not pegers with

the cladens and I remember that I remember that I didn't, no? It was like the 5,

4 in the morning, more or less. But at the first me, and like the

little he goes, but like when he got to make a contact visual,

it's behind from a behind of a poste. Yeah, and so like

that's and I started and I'm going to and I'm going to like to see but my Cerebrough was in other

a wonder when when to when to first I'm to get a to get a,

I'm a I said I said Paco that's a kid in a fabric

at the four of the morning but I had the eyes open I said

in no moment I was I'm I'm I'm in this

trance trance, but with the eyes abirtos. And it's when I am I'm

to think and to reactionar to say a little here and I remember that I

try to enfoc to infocar and I was sure that was there's a back I'm I'm going to

be to be to be there's not. But I am sure that I'm completely

secure. Much of I know I say that you're doing this and you doormiste

but was much similitude. I, I, I, I mean, the area

of the work, but there go. Vene my relevo, because

if there get a to relev to do you to get in your hour and you're

to come, and you get to one of these people, a old,

a man, a man, he said, yeah, get to come, and I,

and he said, how has said, how has sent your area, no, is a

person, or is said, I'm, I'm, so, If it's a media pesadita, well,

yes, here is where you're, where you're where you're where you're a little, a man who's and he wants

to be able to get back of those pillars. I went to but I kept in the commodore,

me kept so all, like, I said, not was a sweet, I was a see, so I,

so I, see, and so I did a certain me, me, confusion, I sentia

many things. And I'd say to for the clarity of the people in context,

the type of the area, no see the people have to the famous the famous

busanito. Ah. So, it's more or less more than the gusan. Uh-huh.

So, the structures where you can say is of the that's the area, because this

would be only the machine that's the way. Yeah, is correct. So,

so like the busanito of the fairia, the of the part, that's

more or less or that all that area once I'm that I'm

took the last part more the first that's that I'm and a cause of that

was that they changed the number of the company I don't know you know

of the video yeah yeah the area more the area more because

it's not not it's not sure there is there's disappear

the device that's not another another other manner.

So, there you have to to be, because the team, the mountacargas you put in

a certain time to destroy the tarima and the next to and the next to and the coming, the that's

the experience if I did I renuncied. I was going to the after that after that

after renuncy that company. What happened? One of my companions, and we we say we're

the flaco. The flaco. Yeah, not is here with we're not you know, but the people

don't know what are the wagons. They're in the train. It's correct. They're getting vacuos, no train

nothing, and we have to fill two wagons for turn. So, you imagine the rompiment

of the embases. Dicen, no me took over, to get after getting after

after situation, because the So the banions that you know, you know, so is very long as well. Perished, you're in the sanitary, you're almost almost.

So I don't know what's the problem there was that this chabro. A man, you're just, 16, and seven years.

He gotro a ass and he felled a bagon. So, he started, he started,

but for that you know they were, but for you did not do a little and he fell into

the wagon. And he came to those vidios, the videos, the videos, Because what I'm, well, no, if you know, no, they put, no, they put in a tariff, like four or five tarimas of cartons, your gafas, your casco,

tapones, and trac, trac, traka, trawant, and to romper, to romper, to, you know, romper, to, no, remember, romper, no, you see nothing. So, until you, stop. And so, you know, you're not, you know, you're gonna'clock. So, yeah, in that sense, the head of area, me, he said, oh, yeah, me, go. But what he happened? He got sepulted

between the windows of the wagons They said They said But we're We don't We're just

We're The topone But they're seapulted under the windows of the vases of the

So, have sangrated Well, no I want to imagine No

That Firt And and then Renus Renuio Yeah The life

value Vos for con To know Yeah 100 100 There

There are There There the value, no. I mean, I always I've mentioned, I, I've worked as a workerer much, much time, and I'm abertamently, there imagines where I'm carrying,

I'm just carrying, and I'm a pain to say it, because that's experience, but nothing valid the sacrifice of your life. Or so, the people, he's a wife, a family,

mascots, when you're going to to look the pan and that of a time,

then you know you and the business or the company or what you

see so. So, it was like a person more,

no, but no, but that's what what what

happened when when was when you where it's

about that was a world so a lot,

so much people and documented and the people and the family

when no when not no if I didn't even I don't even I don't

he said and they don't they have been in the view manna so if they're

in the cembrer in the clasos in this and the other really are experiences

very fertes and at least in this fabric when we there are many

there's there's for the quantity of mortes that I know I want

to do you that this me and this me to do a person that worked many years and

out of the port grand no, I mean, so I go, I'm going to do you know.

So, his last post was to get a cargars for the people who hear of the

time, they're the people who have these vehicles, that have like, they're going to do that

things and he was in this department where these vagones of the

train, the wagons of the train, and he was he was he was

with his montacark and was apil and was

a little lobo of so I know of all all. So,

then the wagon, he and other company in his car, in his mottacargas

they were in a little bit. But as a rata there was a time, there days where

was that that the chamook and was that was because all happened they were

accidents and how that's in the fabric a space a kind of

a species of a pesed of pesed of and it's in the

night when soced in things bad. It was a madugada

and to this person this man he and he

met the chuchillas in the tarima and back the lot

of the and and I said every that I

did this something that it was and he

got all all all all all all made

and so I didn't not But imagine how peridid

or so they back them and they yeah all in packettated to say a hundred

and hundreds and hundreds of serbeas and pune and he said and he said but

what's what's happening it's like it's like I've done the case is that the case is

that the trancasos log they're longed the wagons that they but

so super tard and all a tiradero when so

this train these these these wagons, they need the supervisor of the area

and he took a photographia. Why? Because it's evidence. So, is how it's how it's

going to be. I mean. I have a repaldo of that here so he's so far as the supervisor,

and say, yeah, it's got to, you know, he's, he's, and he's, to get a

to imprimed to, for that, for that's to do you to get to get respals, no.

And yeah, but these overos, like, oh, oh, oh, oh,

oh, Yeah, ha, ha, ha, they're going And he's over the supervisor Blanco, Blanco, Blanco, super palid. And it's when he says, he'll talk to this person, he says,

well, I know why, no, he wanted to get, and you say, he says, he'd have the photography where

is the wagon, and heeno of the carbeza, but at the front of the wagon, there was the image of

a demonio. There was a person, the person that he saw this photo he said that was a rostro very

great, he had some little cairns like of cabras and like these astas but not

it was like an image that was a no, it was a demonio there was in the image

of the demonio there says that when they're when this photo

and they see the supervisor that was black he was

he said we in group and we started because we we're saying it was only he said we're

saying that someone would be to get before the morning and all they had a year and about all

what had passed. He got this rumor so disparseed for all the fabric or chism

and he to get to a job of another line that has no nothing

to be and he I want a copy of that image for

to make the laver for The good Suerte. And he said

No, no, no, do you do you. No, don't let me for the

good. I'm going to serve. And he got a photo copy of the photo because

they were passing. That was so was so far of 15 years and they were

passing the photo and he the imprimed in chiquito and the in Mika and

where is his you know the I know this person when I when I was

he was a person who was a person who was always only, I can't say who is because I

still working there's and so a lot of he knows I'm going to say who he's

not going to his family one day he doesn't he gets to work he passed two days

passed three days passed four days and then he's present

this this man in his day of a day of a day of he went

in a carmeneta with his two two his wife to to go

in carretera and suffer in an accident in this accident he's his wife

and his two his and he he gets alive and he he's

he left and this man he said but he's so

he's so much people said for the photo that

you evasted. There people that said, you did you for a

good good and you there's your good to do you to do.

But I always have thought and my form of to think is

what to get to you would I would have preferred

to go with the pain you you don't

you get to the two and I think the

majority would have preferred to go to be the only that

that's that's and to your family you. I know this man. I know this

a man that's a man who I've worked very solitario very callied, almost

no about. And when I asked, because if it's very rare, it's kind of kind of

kind of kind of I've been absent. Ausent. They said is that he's that

he lived this. And when they're they're all what what

wow. And, and look, Paco, what you talk is very certain. I mean,

are things that for much people can be a but in the reality, as a

moment, if there's a good there's a bad. I respect to all type of

religion, I respect every who can't think in what he

and but a sometimes to not live the things of the people

not I'm so I sometimes I I mean, no, this case is very different. But there are people that,

and God, a lot of questions and the people don't know what I. So, why you have to pass for a suffering so forth so forth for a suffering so forth? No? So, how strong. I want to mention something

that you lived, and that many of the pecanos we've lived, and something of what we're We don't we're reallyos a few years.

It's a news world. Mundial. The Cathedral of Tuxtepec Oaxaca

Suffer one of the the worst accidents of construction. A cathedral that since I was a

new, he was to build to be not to be constructed. It's been to remodels

to. It was a project very very ambitious so very, well,

well, well, well, I don't say that cathedrals. So,

so, they were doing a pack. They were doing a pack. So,

they were to be a little bit of a lot of because they were because they were like a barque,

like the barque, like, the ark to Noah. So, then a, an, an,

an, an version multi-millionary to do this. And I remember that I said that was a new,

various parroquias to say, ah, coopera for the barca, coper for the barca. So,

for many years he was constructing or remodeling this cathedral but in what year was, I don't know if you,

you know, I think I think it's like eight or nine years. More or less a anniversary and I don't

I remember if it was in the month of October for there more or more that we had the carid

of the samebra. Okay. We're going to put 10 years. I don't we can

be able to one or two years. We're to put 10 years. I remember that in

that then my My wife, I'd work about that area, and I remember that we

were in the office in the office and we were going out and he's heard a struend brutal and

a new a new of a polvo that involved almost all the city, something

and I am a car and see much people, and I'm what happened and the

polvadero but it's sent you how temble to the earth and

I've all the socal of the city we're we're we're

and from we got to the park we've we're grittos

but as gritts but as the cimbra the the techo of this barca

collapse the the workers standing above and there there

there more there people per die the people didn't

totally sepulted under the combros under the cement and

and To receive. To rescat it, to rescinds before the cement to start. Recurred

that they started to buy these refrescos of the lightros and of the refresco

of gasiosa and to inventing over. For what what happens is that me of

a accelerant. And so so with that type of so, that's

that it would be a bed. And give more time. In this this

time, you know so didn't know the question. A grand,

thank you the context now how how Well, after,

after what's what for many known that I'm very very appellate also to certain

manner to the church. The first version more is that they were

the father. Why? Because the father so sub to see to see

to be the work before the callado. 10 minutes

that after the father fum behind the same. So the

first sign is that they went for him. What much people

comment. Oh, the church that's that you go to not the name

for respect of the father. Yeah, not here. They're not

there. But, but in that's then I was a lastimated of the

Asiatica and I remember, I'm accompanied to all. We're not sure.

We're not notices. Yeah, is it's extinct. It's the was the he was

he started Tontas social like now not those canals. So I

get with my spouse we're effectively a packet of refresh and because there

had to give to give to the people. The requisite they were

to be to enter to with a panuel to bring a pico

or want for to put to start to start the arms what could

my my spouse me reggae and you know on the malo of the

person we We found one known I'm the Pelo no,

the really, because that's a sentiment to help exactly, exactly the

humanism because you put in the place you want to you know,

then then I lepele vulgar and me me cuelo and I

can't tell you can't that are cadenas pac so I'm one of

25 persons 30 the long for the people that

that I've to go ahead to the cathedral from where is the father to where

is more or not the escalers were in the cubeta with cubeta with barissa

with all what you want to what you want to there was a machinaria pesta

because we had a machine pesta many many many many people

many people but I get like at the eight of the night

not I was I'm Yeah, yeah, I'd hear me. But, well, the same sentiment of not caret to go, for to care to, not to let's do, and you know where you can't force of flagea, but

do you do, it's a lot, in Tostepeg, the manifestation of alzary the puny, as well, as it was a stormot in its moment. So I'm talking at that hour, 10.5.11 of the night, so

all the whole all the whole all we alls a silence

and I hear you a gritty that says here I'm okay come inse

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And so. Empeasan to excavate in that part, exclusively, all the world, we include, so, that's, that area, ta-t-t-ta-ta-ta-ta-tah-pum. I think it was like one hour. And he

He's a person of there. The impressionant Paco is how he's,

because when it was we got him, I mean, no, no, no, I took

to hauling but if he was so I saw it full of the cement for

there. For the so I'm so, so that's so. God.

How you're from how you how you're you're you, something, something

you know can't you Lee and regress with my husband he

kept on some my own and I'm and we're and how they're in this

then they're those cellars to tapita not from those to be now to I'm

I'm I'm I don't know in what my wife I'm a little

more than I know I'm we're just we're to talk before I'm that I'm

to be that you this cellar we don't we don't know we

But where is the cross, no you have seen of a cross actually a cross-as- a little of

a cross. After that, you see in the photos and see the face, you know, of the

demonio. So, that cross that's actually yet sealed a photo of the demon,

ryingdose, mirroes, and all the people there and he, and he, being. Ryendoce.

Rends. That's. That's what. The person, the, the, the,

of the city of Juarez, the last companyer that was a man, so a man, he did he took to live, the last rescade that

was, I think 7, 8 of the morning, a man, a boy with his son, and they

found them. They're found out. Of course, until the fact, they're that were 16

and not were 16 and were 16 and were more. It were 39. 39.

But they were to find a father. They were, they were seven, eight, those

To be in the way, but the, but to those who are crevents, he was, I was, I was for the father. I said, I went to go to the father, because the same commento that 15 minutes subio to supervise

before the collado, and for here he went to, pass. That's great. For here, we're going to start putting some videos

that circulate in the internet of this tragedy, and we do do we do with much respect because it's a success that

mark Tuxepet. Yes. It was a notice like I mentioned a rata

a minute the scene where they're the scene where they're on the father by

his son to his chomberos. It's very commovedore very, very cruel because because

well I don't say maybe I will be to sound conspirative but

passed that and you have done the construction or at least

in a 90 a 90 but yeah are some are so

but yeah it's practically terminated but what happened and what did this

and I want to mention abertamity no was responsible of this so that's

me make a reverend a burla that no there no person

responsible of that he failed something everyone so everyone so everyone and the

people and families affected that were there were there there were there

all the like I like you, as you've commented, I'm a

work in construction. Yeah, I'm the few videos that I'm in to see,

if there was the architected of the work. Yeah. Because to those

who are albañil, companions that I'm also, I'm also, I'm back in many,

I'm in cadenas, clear. And here what most more, I remember that the photos

was, that the cimbra the cormer the cowerer the and it was

the So I don't know. Uh-huh. So, the techo, the, the middle of the techo, that was what was done to have done by placas.

As you know, a place, a plaque, a plaque, no, the traves atraversed, for that marr. For that marr. And, they

put all the collo of a gulp. So, then from, the error. The error. That's, so,

I think that's of the things more furs that in some moment, probably maybe we, we'll,

we're, we're, we're, we're, we're So, the people who

survived, but perished, but per die a little extremity or they're in a condition

of a life. Much of the people who also came too, this, cement.

Cement. Cement. The air and the respirator, the systems pulmonary.

The fact, much, many, they're then with the pandemic

of the sequels of that. Yeah. So, so we we're almost to

to terminate this episode, of the really, that's that's in this podcast,

stories that the audience, but here's the stories that are listening in this moment are told as in the experience.

So, so are vivid, what I mean have told is what I have been being,

working, working as a barerer. So, are experiences really that we're that we've

experienced. And, yeah, to finalize, there's an anecdote that we want to talk,

that has to be with a famous curva. Well, this is, to enter in context

with all the person this accident was a much, much years. I think I know if I

know if I didn't know I'm or not I'm or what the age I had I was a famous

school of the city of Tustepe and he went to a city of O'Haka

to what I was to do because I like to investigate the things that

the things that I did you a certain way where you do you

exactly so to what I was up in your moment to go to the

roundah of this school, a sacerdote and companions that were

like a event that's a thing. The roundah of a university

and to go to go to to go to a company

with a other and a father. The father because

not you see to say to know he he was he was he

but he was but but said that the choffer

in one of of a a mal-pestanazo. So, he got dormied. Much before

this was to get to the city of Galatau. In the Sierra in the Sierra in the

Sierra of Oaxaca passing the famous cabna no, if there's there's a cabin, no, if

you know you know and then they're just they're just where they're going to get the defiladers

most about the cabna puros and puras and puras there's a carterterer.

We'll we're just the parage official for a for a for a cargas

a pause what you want you you want And for the people that he's not know the

yeah of the cabana for the way we're because it's a carrille that's a carrille

not in two cars. There's where you have to put a one, so that

the other or to do you say it said they said that was a pesterner

the car chiro, giro, giro, shaker the disfielererer. So, that is the

story of the curve of the student. Because we're the story because

came the context of the I had, I see, I had seven years I'd have with a prime, I don't manage,

manned to, manned, but before those students, all are? All diecese. No, they were

to get the restacket or nothing, or the magnitude of the, okay. Of the,

where it came to the risk, we've been that's, okay, okay, so we've, we've,

we've done the four, for the, for the, for the, the motor of the, the endpue,

with a batte am a, a cabina a-cabina nothing more, and I'd try asterio of those

big kids. So, we were my and I, pass them to the cabana, we took the respective

a beer to go and the restive because in the Attau, we're in the point exact, no me

know what I know what I'm going to talk about, because obviously you know you're so well chismosian,

or not you go to hear music or something, you get a dream, you can't the

or the frio, because then then it's a bit of the neblin and we've been three chachos to the way of the carreter of the carreterers from the carreteras

from your studio to go to a, a, a, a, a tienta that is a little rarro, three muchos,

only 50 meters, 50 meters, piding a ray, effectively two chavos and a chap. Okay. The man chas with a maleta,

no, a manet to do a machi. I'm a little bit, oh, pardon, We go, we're going to be saying, oh, you're not, you're saying, ah, you're like, oh, don't say, they're taking free.

So, they're getting to help, no see. You seem to be trying to help. The truth, no, I don't know why I have that bad man, no? No, and it's good, it's good. And, this, well, tell you that's up. See, we'll say, we're just,

we're just, we're gonna' go, I'm back. I, backer the ventanilla. Chachos, what happened? No, no, they go, They're going to go to Oaxaca. No,

there were a gesture. Sub us in the battee chas. Let's do the rye, to where we get us.

No, no, no, no, no, no, we'll say, we've been about us

a bit of 150 meters. To me me, and you tell you, maybe the

kind of a cobiage, he'd try of a frio which he was he'll be by the

retrovisor of the carmeneet. and he said my Primo do my Primo do you do you

don't goltes still the line he went he was managing but what what happened and I

started to urinar me to another another another and I did you

you you know you you until you see you you but what what happened

no no voltes still right be right he took

the arm to come right no vaulted no voltes and be it and he said

my prism that just no voltes be right no voltes be directs we're we're right

we're right and we're welcome to galateau is a galateau is a house a house of cabna

and here a refreshteria I'm I'm I'm the carmnet me tear the

terraseria and me put in a plan of cunclis for so manage it and I

start like a I say a feo, no, if it's rubella, to messer me, what on? And my brim, what do you? What do you? What, what you know, what's the matter? Help me. My prim, he'll pass something, that I don't know what?

But he had noted that there was nobody. No, no. He said, he focused on me. Yeah, I go to a senior in that. You know, you know, they're so much crevents, and they use, much the limpies, and all the Yerbys. Yeah, a woman,

with the yermas with the carmenet in the battee and it's put in the batheer man.

With with a water. With water my friend. My wife my friend, what do you

what I'm what I'm pasto, 25, 30 minutes, yeah, more. I go,

the chabos that we're the chabos that we're and if you did you know to get me my eye

of the record and decarned so much. It's disapparation? No, discarned The image that I

The image that I took For that I said, no, Volted, Ah, so when those Vue? Yes, Those were descarned. Descarned,

decarned. Scarned, decaned, the chaba, the other chabba, the other chab, the other chab, the other chas

a man, was a, for me. I thought that had disappeared there were, there were, when we got

when we got to the atta, I don't know, but what I saw, the image the image of the travisor

was that that, discarned in the Camerette. And the woman of the

when he's a manned and there. That's there. Uh, so it's rare, no?

Well, not that's to say, if it was rare, if it was a something,

but I think were almas in pen, or I want to think that

still there's, no, they've not, not have found, the

light or the and the time, and not they've still until the

Fecha. I'm supposed to go about about something. And for there's

many there's about to be in Wachaka. I feel that are all times

that they're not a time. Because many people, you know, they don't know.

They're they're in fierros but yeah. And it's impossible to get

a no, no, there's moments, I mean, we've talked about this

mess, this type of experiences that are in the carter to Tuxepeta to

Wachaka, so it goes sub, it's neblin, it's frio, the carretera

is angoste and over all the bolladers. So, no, as you mention, it's

it's easy that when these these accidents backen to the most possible because

because also because also the people know, this yeah the people know, this yeah the people,

see the episode that we're in the carterer standing us in Waxaca and to CPEC grab us

a podcast but we grab us with a camera the carreterra. And it was our first evidence when we don't know we at the moment, and the editor, it was, until

that the video, the people, and so, minute, total, minute, total, minute, total. And we, we know, we know, total. And we we, we, a, um, an, um, an alma that was he had a uniform, or so, he had, or said, he had a, so, he had a casco amary of protection, had a chaleco, but was completely in the middle of the nada, parado. But, but

But me da curiosity because meters before there was a cross of these cruces that put in when something when somebody

died of the life, there was a cross to the road of carterter and one 20 meters

ahead was there was a person a person parada the the skin

see like grisaceia so like like cremado like like

no so gris and the camera it's the camera it

we we we we don't we we is this movement like that's

this movement, like, we're going to things paranormal. And when I, I'm going to, I'm, I'm, we can't,

we can't, we can't, we can't, that's evidence that we know, we're another podcast, because it's

an evidence totally that he went, now, so, like, as he's the chabbo of

nocho without, because never think we're we've got a entity, an,

an, an, an, an, an, an, an, an,

So, is that's there pared with a uniform of a person,

like it was a life at a bit in an accident or something. What are to talk

of these things? The truth is to be the time. It's a good to

be a good to check Oaxaca is the third carterer with a

major cruces at level national. Yes. It's very very dangerous

and it's very respect. Much respect no for because, the

Sierra of Oaxaca is with the entities, phantasas, I'd say,

even even even to other rank because it's reclimate much some

the , many people, we're that we know, how it's

how it happened? Well, so, I'm talking a lot of some

that I said, but but, but, invite to all the people,

no, that's one, see to your program. Thanks. Two, that we have to

that we have to because every they're going to more things and they're going to more things. And they're going to continue passing more

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