EXTRA ANORMAL - Secretos de la Masonería Al Fin Revelados

Episode Date: November 12, 2024

En este intrigante episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast, tenemos como invitado a un masón de grado 18, quien nos revela algunos de los secretos más sensibles y sorprendentes de la Masonería. Con una perspectiva privilegiada, nuestro invitado nos ofrece una visión única de las prácticas, símbolos y conocimientos que pocas personas conocen. Prepárate para descubrir aspectos ocultos que te dejarán boquiabierto. Canal: Extra Anormal Podcast Sumérgete en el misterio y explora lo que hay detrás de las puertas cerradas de esta sociedad secreta. #Masonería #SecretosRevelados #ExtraAnormalPodcast Podcast de Terror

You know, here in Mexico, two of the of the grandes of here, si, so, they were in children, so, wow. For the power, no,

not to lose, no, to be the power. Yeah, the masonoria is three, is the masonry black, the

blue, and the roja. And there's a masonry, and there's also, the chamanism, this, the burglary, the santaia. Yeah,

exactly, yeah, they're, yeah, they're, exactly, they're, exactly with,

and you can't, you can't you can't you can't with a demonio. What How,

Ammigues? To be welcome to a chapter more of podcast Extra Anormal. My name is Paco

Arias and I'm very happy to be here with all of this occasion

family is special because I with a person that the team has a

little and I am a very content that today today today is with us

my friend Samu Mazon Graddo 18 Thank you Thank you for the invitation, Paquito.

Many thanks. Thanks for the invitation, brother, because as far as to tell the invitation, because as far as it's complicated that certain people acceding to

to do this type of interviews. For the theme, well, you know. I think we know we all. But, really, thanks for the invitation.

Thanks for being here. The truth is that I'm with going to continue more about, I don't see

to say to this movement, of this group. this society, so I don't know how you know, and I'd like first that

you know, what is the masoneria for you? Of each, yeah this I've asked, a masoner

anteriorly, and I like this question is the same, but always there a response

different. For you, what is, well, well, for me, the masoneria is,

well, yes, it's a hermandat, but really, as how we would we

put it in these words would be something that you impulsed to continue

in you and working in you to work to be more with the other the liturgy

is a little specific in question that is a mauson the liturgy

is a mausenio master in the art of imagine and then also

also the situation of the antiqued of the the of the

the of the the of the the a mason, well, is an

albañil, as vulgarly it's the liturgy real, to the liturgy in the literality

says, is a mag, genie, and master in art to imagine. That's what is a

matron, according the liturgy. And for me, well, it's, well, is an

hermandat that you, that you know, no, not always is good, because

then then then it's also the the same are the men, but the you know, but

if you support emotional, a time a way of a business physical, and also

question laboral, we're going to put to put up a job, and me has talked to go to go to

the result that they're not they're so it's fraterno, ah, pass it, a more in

some circumstances there's there's but also in other, it's a person, because if you to talk

someone, who's of you know, no beas, and do you try to try and to turn the

people, so I think it's like all, like the club of Toby

of the of the little lulu, not? I know, some have some privileges,

others, no? Exactly. I said a rite as a grado 18. You can

extend your rank? Well, the truth is that I'm, I'm, I'm in the capitularies,

the grad 18, that's the cabrero Rosacruus, and, and, right,

I'm in suhons, yeah no, I've not I've to go to work logiales because,

because of health. Sure. Okay. Look, something that all the people

that listen this is that we know that we know the most of the norm us know

the attention the paranormal also around of the theme masonico

there many many many corrientes of stories of legends

that do this they do this I wish to start

about I'm talking with many I'm saying is that

obviously not that in all so that so that so

obviously depends much the loggia the person leadering this, this and the other,

if it's, like, like those of the antes, no, that's trying to be very uppegous to the liturgy, others that are more, no-s-frescos, maybe, that trying new ideas, but in general, basically there's much secret. There, there was an

friend that me said, is that all is that all right, you think that this is so? Well, it's that, we say in the Amazon, in the, the one of the, that has seen, that observe. Okay.

To what they're to refer to that's to find out of that's in the best. Sure.

So, if there in internet, I can say that's for me like the 83% of

all the degrees, including the 33. Nothing just we need a manual for know what

is what grade is what grade and how it's used. It's like when, for example,

I, that I studied, I studied the law, but go to the practice, chingadasos, and there no.

I mean, totally change the situation. It's exactly the same. The liturgy you do a base for to be, not

to initiate a someone, exaltar it, to an grade different, to be a camera, but not you do the

other things to do that because it's that's going going to be to be a master, that is the

famous allegory of the alumno the master for that that those things not be able to get a

certain a certain So, in this way, there's a secrecy. I mean, it's a secrecy. I go and it's up, and I'm okay, yeah, okay, I'll have the significance, care of the relation for the which is to use, and caress in what camera

has to do, and the why is of the word, no? And all of that you're going to be when you're going to, when you're going to the cameras and you're talking, so you know, so you understandes that not just to say X-palra or to say this, but it has a significator real and that in a certain position of the loggia with the bovada celeste,

you will give other significate and you will help to work to work the energy

and XXXX and the things that we're going to keep saying and at the final

the only that's that's that's that is what it is the thing in

the similar but it's similar never never never

be the never there there there there don't

turn much chrient in base a and it and

you say there different secret mysteries, as like they like to

call, but it's about that when you're in a level very

high, you know, you know, more than the knowledge common, that if

you get to, no if you say the word correct, to

tryision to reveling this, can they can come with your

life? Well, in that aspect, well, not we don't we're

not we're in the 1, 700. Okay. I mean, earlierly, it was very recelous to the order, demasiado resolves to the order, and so they'd sacrifices, and there were questions of repressaries,

infamies, we're going to put it so. So, many logias were the lawgias, they were in the law, the eye, for eye, dient, for dient, or so we're, we're talking to, like, logias, just, yeah, of the renaissanceism, more atras,

So, the first logias that they thought that the knowledge to be well, it was re-seled because it was recelado, was it had to be occulted,

and not all were apts to know it, because if not, of all the many of them were saying that they'd

be able to understand it, and so it was there were the replesarious. But, but today, the maximum

that they can apply, but is the law of yel. Here, the law, the detail is that,

to, know, in what, in what, in what, in what, you're in the

world. For example, if you are an engineer, an example, and resulta that your circle of engineers are pure mazones, then at the moment of that you, traitions their loyalty, they're going to stop. They're going to blocker. So, you're going to be, I mean, you can't work, but not is the same to work in the

job than to work. At the more, they can't support for a project or at the most, or at the point, they'll be a project, they're going to negate, they're going to start, or so, what they're going to do. What you can't do repressaria is simply mandart to a rinkon, to put a congelator. No, we know them.

And if we know something, or if we can't something, we can't do do something. And at the contrary, put you a piece, because there are reallyselos.

And what can do you do with that dis-lialted, simply to be able to get to be able, put a little bit, put a trap, but as a ralpho,

but as a ral that we're going to get to this. So, no. Although the jurements of the mazoneeria in every

grade, say, for example, in a, well, grade X, or one he says that's arachar the language of the

other says another says that to get to the resties. Another says that's partier to the body of the middle

and also and so are doing the those juraments as they're saying when you're saying when you're

to say, you say, you know, and the brothers, X, X, X, X, X, X, and I promise

that if says, or say, I'll make a language of the right, and he'll

be to fire, and for that, and for example, in the first grade, they say,

no, no, no, Then, then the other, in other grader, then you know, you know, but, you know, doesn't even, you know, then you're going to

and then the other, you know, you know, you're going to, you're going to, it's like, it's like, and in the school, of the kindergarten,

well, yes, before, according to the history of the Amazonaria, and of what I've could have been in the logias,

yes, there were castigues infamens, if there were problematic, So, cruel, fea. Or if it was, you know, the Maestro 33, the assassino a tal, needs to much espiatorious.

It's a lot of the question of the politics, for example. You know, you're going to the carcels, but you're going to start farredissimo. So, no, it's not. And it passed. But it was one or others were castigues, others were

at the more cancer, link to someone. Here, the detail was to protect to the most, to the more, at the most great, no? But, well, for favor,

and it's could cover still, but yeah, so as you as well as to do you want to do you're going to do get to the congelator, let's just go to the congelator, we're to block us all those that we can't, we're just masons, and not we know. Okay, that's just that. Okay, that's that you say, an example, in 1,700. But there are practices, uh, today in, in different religions,

where it's occupied the fact of assassinate people, entregate of children, of criminals, uh, depending on how the ritual is the form in how, uh, they have with the of this human or a

human little. So, this is a question quite cruel a past of the

years in the years, in the we're doing doing things quite feas. And my

doubt is, I know that many logias just are like are like that are

more relaxed, but you think that there still of those of the timeo of this

thing old, but that has be to be said as well mark the literature? Well,

look, Lamentably if there obviously it's a because finally in the massonery we're doing

what is the duality. No, I mean, it can't be not no, not a

malo. We can't a equilibrium. If there's been made so many

questions and many organizations for amazonical because it because it's like the religion

Catholic, no they he used to adorn to do the religion Christian.

No he did it we're doing many variants that finally not they're to keep a Christ

exactly. Here's the here's the this, the first logies, that for example of the first logias was the RITos

was accepted in France if I'm I'm not exactly, right exactly there's there's a more or

many of the and many of and many that's the first the imperial eliminated was Christ and so relax but

but it's mal via to be it's bad but it's well it's but it's well

but then what What happens with the situation? They're going to doggias and there are those that

are very mediatical and very literal that they don't change, they want to want to be so,

directs, so then they don't they want to adapt to the new anxieties of the world. Like,

for example, there are masones that are mixed not, logias of gays, less,

because are abarations, not could not be people of the community to the LGBT to

a loggia, or that loggias too, because are energies duales. No, so, but, but, in embargo, you're going to

and you're the, the space adequate for that you could work and without to start entering in controversy.

So, what happens here? The loggia is to give us to get to have the Rito is ancient, and rectified,

and is another. There's the rito Templario, there are the Cavalierers, Templarios, that are not others,

there, there's, the Rito of York, for example, that the Rito of the Rito is of the most,

of the masculinitos. are of those that still are like, because you know that's about that's about that's the part of

the area of the elite. We can't talk about about that so? Well, yeah,

could be a little. Sure, that's, let me, let me, for what, because,

for that specifically that group of persons? How is called? The Rito of York.

Rito of York, which is a variant of the Masonism? It's a Rito Mastonica. It's a rito. And of the

Rito of Yor, they're in the Illuminati, for example, or you or you can get the

Riner, that's, is the grad 31 or 32 of the massaneria, but it's the elite of

the elite. They're only only are millionaries, so, and evidently you have to have a

kind of of a money to get a to do you, no, you know, so it's

their elite, they're, if no, I'm not in the Rito of York, here, here in Mexico,

are just here in Mexico, are only three families. Okay. So,

And so are those who move practically the country. Wow, in Mexico. In Mexico, for example. In the United, are like 12 or 15 families. So, and they're one every every year,

and even even have their reloches, cursers, exclusive of x. Joyeria, no I can't be a joyeria,

but it's a very special. And that like, like the Ferrari, that's not they want to be to be able to that they're

to get a guy to get to you. I'm going to this goal is super millionario, because even being a millionario, a much

not just is so that's And they're And they're those that have practices

more those they're in because well I'm going to say who I'm

but for example here of Mexico two of the family of

York are of the they're to make something are of those are the

rituals for example that they they're with some or

well is that no I don't know I'm going to be

they're they're they're they can't and here in Mexico

for have leon is a little bit cabrown. So, then you, you know, for example, if, for example, if it's for what, for what, for what I mean, me, me do leigh, and me I did, because there, if no, me constable, because I don't know the grader, is that, is that, if you're going to do you know how much, you, you protectes of the enemies. Sure.

If, if, in contrary, it's a beastia, for example, it gets to, this, um, a borrego, a cabra, a, or a chival, is for a So, so, depending, the animal that is what is what is the protection. Because you have to beignar with his blood and do that's relax and they're and then we'll come to the point

that you mentioned, you think that they're doing? Well, yes, because they're working. And they're still functioning. Okay. So, as before they function, then. Mencianoes the blood of leon and the blood of cordero?

But there there also, also. Yeah, too. Also, of course, well, I don't I can't say but

you know here in Mexico two of the of the of the grandes to be

in the children for to not to be the power not to put the

power that they they don't they they're but but well

but well it's for what me talked because there's not

because I don't for what I'm a more more more more

more more than is that for the protection

are two two manners. If is for something I'm

evidently I'm going to sacrifice someone not is a good for me. But well

if it's to ask something has to have to have been like the cordeero

of God so that's that's that's not that's that's they're

they're they're they're they're they're they're they're they're

they're for all something for chingars someone more powerful XXXX is a

Mala, robat you a boy, you know, exactly, and do you, exactly, and do you, because in the

first, if is for a good, you know, he has to be in peace, sereno, so,

so, for that you, but if is for a more, but the more more, that is what

that's what me have said, obviously, I know I know that, obviously,

that's what that's what says, alimented much the, the theory of, I'm,

I'm a salute, of that these great elites are the this substance chemical that segregate the human,

no? That I've mentioned many times, that is, or when you when you're in these

two events of your life. Obviously, when you're when you're, so, not it's, not it's

like, to be, it's, it's trying to try to make the maximum possible.

That's, leaving the body, leaving the human to a suffering where you're

in the and it's the substance that they occupy. Disgraciously I can't say the

name because that is a name that I've seen that if it's a lot so it's

something. So, something is something complicated to say it but that's a reality

to voice at final of the because a past that in the moment

is secret or was secret so has collated information has collated

certain practices and a even of that for many

is a thing fantastic fictitious. We know many people that I don't I don't

put the title of the investigator but if I do it to the

investigation to the testimoniales and only I'm saying I'm

not the only person I've talked with much that I

know I'm thank you thank you guys that's this is saying

this is real but I don't tell I don't know I'm so it's

a question a question because we're we're that there there's a

more control and more power than the same government and that they'll they decide

in the room of the country you know you're what you do you is that

is true so really really really as as in the

liturgias of the massonery clearly says that we we have we

us to the umbra because if no we control us this go to the

frugate from the natural from the natalida that's so it's said it's it's a

vaccine for example for the control of the natality and that that's that they're to eliminate

some of those who not serve or that not were they're not they're not for so

for so were many for so for example, no so are so are so are

so some secret to let's let's put to this manner but

is something something real. I go, the economy mundial, it's controlled if I'm a mal-recorded for 20, 25 families. So, are those who control the economy

world. Exactly. So, finally, they'll decide who live and who die, who you're, you're like, Cesar, you live, you're you, you're going to, you're going to, you're going to, you're going to, you're a certain level, but the

reality is that, this, I've talked to other masones, and I've checked in the liturgy, finally, all, all, all, is made, for to be servile for someone more.

No, for that you are solito, you can't and you can't. And at the moment that you put in an internet. And you know,

where we've seen what you do you say? In the system of education. Exactly. So, that's all

we've been about much because we've seen the transformation of the telephones cellulares like in

just ten years, passed on to be a thing of a lotriyo to have a maximum

technology, how evolution to all. And we've to come to to cameras, to do to all what you imagine.

Practically, there's an evolution. And something as a system of education that's being exactly equal to the years 1,700,

1,000, 100, 100, 100 years and more. Aula with your pupitre, this, all, all is exactly

exactly. Exactly. No evolution. No evolution. So, when they say, the system want to create

employees for that serve, not for that you have served. Exactly. That's very cruel, because I think

to do you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know a good

job, this, and we have a chip that is placed. As far as where we're going to be

really, but going to the thing, but, again, the theme dark, I think a much people

to give the attention. So, you know, that obviously they occupy sacrifices. We're

we're we're for the protection. But there the other part that is

to obtain something. Obtener an knowledge. A knowledge that not is

in books and is there in internet. You've heard of that's about that.

Yeah, Paquita look, I'm to, I'm a to give a, a,

question a little brief for that not, because also, what I

know what I'm so, is under what I have of the order and of what I've

could read in those bibliotects. See, the Amazoneria, evidently, it's the first grads, which are the

Amazoneria the Azul, which is, Apprentice, Compaio, maestro. From there, from the

grads philosophicos, that are the, well, the grade, fourth, the fifth, the sixth, X, X, X,

but well, no, I don't say the numbers, no, because no no it's not, because I really

really, not I'm not so, how it's recent, with that I saw, I've seen much time, that the fact I'd have to do much for to accord me, no, I'm prepared in that aspect. But, well, then, then, then, after,

to get to the grader 14, and it's the Capitulars. Aha, that's the 3 or the 14, if no me quibuco, the Capitulars. In those capitulares, in where I'm not, which is the Gravo 18, if, so,

So, the mazzanery in three ramas. This almost nobody

to be going to be to be in a lot of but it's what I've been to contacter.

And I've revisited in books in the books for example and I took work I've worked

the rito Scottish Antigua accepted, the rite national Mexican, the Rito

Templario and the Rito and the Rito and the Rito and other I don't remember the other how is the

other rito Rito, but four Ritositos. They're very very a little

the questions. So in them every every I've used, I've

have used to know what is the difference to one or or other. Because I mean

to know to know with the difference. And in the ram of the masoneria is exactly

equal as when you study a career that they're in the tronco common and for example in what is

the right, right, right, civil, X, X, but first you know, but first you

know what is the right of the tronco common. So all the tronco common, I

the top of the common of the mazzaneria to the grade of Rosacruz see, that's the

Amazonoria is a amazonoria is the amazonar the blue and the roger so you

you're going for the black the black is questions of energy protection metacicosis

panachinesis karma darma all this relajo so that are those colors that

that's exactly I'm exactly I'm I'm exactly what I'm what's

what is you They're saying the why of the nature, to live in harmony with it, that all we're all of energy, and that blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and you can't say,

there I can't say that could have many Buddhists, there's, well, those spirituals? Yeah, much, much spirituality, but blank.

So, for a question of protections. Okay. So, right. Luce, exactly. Luciferina, precisely, because this is the three. One is Luciferina,

is Luciferina, the next is the Luciferiana, is the Roja. Okay. There in the Roja yeah, it's a interesting.

The interesting is that you want to start to start. I'm going to teach them to make a line, because if it's a door that

you have to then, then you know, you know, you know, there's a exaltation of that's a place to say,

the Roja is in a patio, for example, and then you teach you're doing to bring a rations,

your first situation is a rajament, that you have to do certain things in a tomb, la, la, la, for that the morto that's there

that's there, that's the ryanment. The rayment, but at all right, you say, you know? So, there's, like, for what I'm saying, you know, but, well,

you know, it's another situation. There's a wrayment. That's all you do, and X, X, X, X, X, many things, also. Also, also, also, with the

Luna Sangrienta, with, for example, there's where it's where the woman, because, you, you're basasas of those loyidos of the menstruation,

for example, for doing much things that help that are that's the amazaner roja.

And there's the Amazonry of Roja and also the chamanism, the brugheria, the santaia. Yeah, we've been

with the lecture of cards, and you start with a spirit or with a demonio and you can be your

invocations, your evocations, and as soon you can also they're also, they're to be able

because it's more than for a more than for a certain exorcism, we're going to

put it. or even ataduras of demoniacos that they're to serve and all the and all

that's, is, it's something that I know. I know it because I'm not I'm in that grado and not

enter that capitulation. But you know that part of the liturgy? But I know a part of the liturgy

that simply that's that's going to give in three. The black the roha and the blue.

There's, I imagine santae of any part of religion that's that practice in the occultism.

That is, so. And the other that I I'm confused the black is the tronco

common and the blue is the is the of the energy black and the other that is the

black is simply the super yo yeah the the super yo like in the Amazon

you say is you God you do you you do you so your God is that you

do you the super you first you then you then you then the last is the

black that I'm confused and the other of the other of that is simply

that you you're going to do do you because you you can't because you studied because you you do you

you did you you know so and it's all the question of exaltation personal okay I'm okay I need

I need I need that is the massonery black okay the blue is the blue is the

the blue is the of the energies blacks for so I did you black because the blue is the energy

black so all the energy good the protection And the trojan. And the roja, yeah is the wrong. Yeah, it's the wrong.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's, well, it's luciferina, luciferiana, and the tronco common. The trococomun simply is the person that you know a little bit of all, and decided

that, well, but he can. Nobody more. No, no, needs to be of someone celestial, you know, because it's very clear, is the masonnery,

so the principal objective the first is that create in someone for that you initiate, For that you're in In what you're in whatever In what you're in whatever But we're in this

manner I'm going to this way I'm like I'm for example I'm a Catholic Contra Contra the Massonery

Me did the Bible Not in other Logias and if they were They were They went In the Rite

Templario So they're more question of Christians Okay No, they're Catholic, They're Christian

But well No, the The principal The objective to create in something I said to study at your life. And there you

see, trying to grow. A Bible, to the Bible, to the Bible. Yeah. Now, you're going to questions of debates. We're going to debate. A bit, this is so. No, that's here. They're saying to defender your religion. The defend you. Yeah,

that you had to be a good posture. Then, I think, I'm going to change in the paper. Now you've got to destroy it. Yeah, you know, you've defended, your beliefs. Now, destroy them. Why? Because it's to do the second pass.

That the creencers not are not going to not be to your essence if it's not it's

your knowledge. So, so now me took the other other side. Start

for me like blaspheming we're going to put it because for me just a question.

But then you're going to you're part of your spiritual because I

think you personal. Because it's you know and it because that nobody

get to to change your because you know you can or you know if you have

if you have one of those you have firmes and in a certain way those bases well arraigated and then after that they're saying one of that you just you've done into the negation of

all because no there's nothing all it's a question and begins with the energies mentasicosis palaginesis and karma me I said a master mason

grao 32 me said look let me let's put a put in an example I think in this bottle of water. It's my creencia with a

bottle of water. But if I I tell you to that you that's a bottle to say that you're going to a other, a

other, a other, a other, a other, a other, suma of a lot of energies, you take the bottle and you

will be a lot of the bottle of that's done. It's the sum of all. And for

so, says the Amazonaria, all, for one and one for all. For all.

For all. Because when we can't move the energy. What to be sanar is the energy.

For so, it's been to think, for example, to the Mayas, to the Aztecas, why they were the sacrifices? Because all those

were they're in that. And it was not and the sum of all the responsibilities of all the

energies, it was that it was a energy necessary because it was the creencia that they were

exactly the same. You think in Christ or or in Mahoma or in Buddha X, X, X, X, it was

to be funionary and will be miracles. But, is the power of the sum of all with that

petition, and that petition of all. For that's it's all for one and one for a law of the equivalence

not, no? The mentalism is mental, the universe is mental and that formula occupied the inverse is to destroy.

That's effectively. For so also when they want to make a a burgeria a chamadry

or an chamadry or something you have to you have to create. From the people that You're going to do A-Marry

Oh, me was to do a marri And you're You started And then And then And then And then

And then I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to The idea In the aspect of That's energy It's energy

And it's I'm going to I'm going to I'm sorry I'm very Septic I'm not I'm not

I'm going to I'm going to If you know If not this or not If not If you know If you know

If you're You know You're You know Exactly But obviously when you're You're

count that there are persons that are that are people that are people that are people that that are people that that are people who are that since they're right now this is certain rest of summan and I say no that's so no

that's so no that's that no exists but when me took my exaltation the companion or a master I'm going to see things that before or that

you had or that you know that's you're not that's a manner always you know I know know I know

I know that's said to maybe this fantasyoso but move in the fire. Realment

they move. If I have an brother that the light so ples and you get the fire and it's a way, no?

And there are men who are you get to be like to bela and they're and they're and they're what you're

what's going to do you? The bell is to do you? Yeah. So, there is that if it's a

mann't, or for example I've been to have been a little man, wait a man, wait a

time, I'm agarren the man. And they're how you you feel? You know? I'm just

me He said that. I've I've told those anecdot before. And you recurgan. Exactly.

Yeah, yeah I've told a lot of people, you know, I've got to get a lot of the other people, I said,

well, the only that's the only that was that I'm abrace, and me swelty and he threw a but a

strong-of-est- so much, I said, I mean, this is not just not just not just about to have,

to, tell me your secret of how you constructs here so, this that was the origin, but this was

was led to a level very, very a level a level that's a very important where you

do you say it's and you're talking about the energy the power the power of the

power of the fear of the all the thing dark also also because

not call it but always me has been much the attention

because it's what so I'm put on the examples in

in in the I'm to put a example because

I have in many I'm I have much

for example that there a part of the cult, where they're

someone who has been a lot of the head, that I'm a lot of the head, that's where they're in the world, pass the people

to the front and all the congregation, see it to see, the eyes, impone hands, all, they're putting

the hands, intentioninging to give him, in this case to God, to a, a person, the curation of

that person. And all intentioninging there's the music of the music is another thing super

interesting for that that's that's the energy, the vibration and all this after the

after the then it's not. So, it's general. So, it's generated the

thing magical of the intention functioning in the reality that that

that's that is that we know that we know we we know we're it's interesting

when because we we've the reason of how we're going to sound very

funable in this but not that be that's that's that's the

intention and was the power of the faith. And we remember what that said the master

Jesus, no? If you have faith like a grano of moustasa, you'll

say that you're going to move and it. That's, it's, a very, the theme of more interesting

because for me more than the person that the church is a person with a person with

much much a very away of what the religion to be because the religion

it's convert in a product, but really he came to destroy to the people that today lucre with him. So, so I know it's a very funable, but it's the reality. When you're just you're just down, you know, you would live a Jesus in these years,

it would be, and would be able to do it. We would have to be a revolution. Of course, in a podcast, that the man of Salado, Oscar, he was called Revoltauroposo, and many people is ennoge, but. one of the of the terms of being to be

revoltoes, be revolutionary, to come to revolver the things, to do the newas. And it was

what he said because in those years was doing the same that way so it's a thing

interesting, mano. Oye, the net, the platic is going being cabrona

I thank much that you have been to tell to tell us many things. There is

an theme additional that you would talk to us to talk to referent

to things that's that's many of those types of loggias well I can

you can say that I don't know I know I know those loggias but in the majority

of the situations what we we're going to do as far as is to get to

our problems so for that so we're we're we're

we're we're we're a idea or a finality that impusamintuously

has to do that's for that's for example if you're in the first camera the second camera or the

third camera the objectiv is debastar a job how desbast a job the detail that is

that what you know what you know for example in the first camera what you know is

is to make that you know because one of the secretos of the first

grade is the doubt the reason why not just not just doubt for

doubt rational. A A think critical probably? Exactly. Exactly.

So, what happens? We're going to manage in a manner colloquial and rapid. The job of

the general of the master, the first vigilante, the camera altar and all the

apprentices. So, so there's there's a sack of prepositions and a saco of

beneficency. It's a sackito negro simply, like a box of a box of

a but it's a sack of a So you're going With every

And, well, pass those cruises So you're going to So it's the allegory The cruise of the Curse of the Pyrna's But well, because always is a form of

cruise. And you Yeah, there you're chas the work and you're a good Vibra Let's put on

example, I take a work I've done for the bien of my brothers, the Luz So, so

so, so so, so so, so, because we're to desbastars. Yeah, they pass on the pulpit

and you pass, and the apprentice expone his work. For example, we're going to

see this day the camera, no? Or we're to be this day, the quarter of reflections,

we're going to see the the word secret of the apprentice, or what means the letter B

or what the letter X, X, X, X, so many things, so, so to the apprentice,

not they're to do the things, so, but you're, so, I don't have liturgias.

You have to get to the liturgy. Much is you're going from from a principle. So, what happens is the first class is Internet. Internet, Internet. The most rapid, no? Exactly. What happens? I have something that no coincided much with my brothers, the Masons.

If at the most of the most, I, see, the word B, which is the column A B, that is Boas, no? And that's it has the word of the secret of the apprentice, and X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X. And resulta In Aprendiz Boa means A co-o-sin-companier

Transmutaota And in maestro And it's totally Different For say, So, not as well The literality That here is black

Here is roo, Here's black, here's black, right? But, but it's like a final in signal the signality

Significated real of the word. Because not they can't You can't Not part not is injerible

For the Exactly So what what happens? If at the most I look my job and I'm a third

camera, I'm a apprentice, I'm present I'm here there are many people and masters that they

say, very well, but not is your grado. But what what does do you do you know?

And that is what I mean me me... Sure, they're in the knowledge, exactly.

Because, why say to not your question, because it's not your question, oh, you

you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, This, more along, you're going to understand, but go to this side.

So, for the intention to keep studying, to continue up, because the, no, this degree, not your grad, well, at least to say, well, I don't know, and I think I go to this degree, and we don't know what,

I mean, I'm going to be like the example, burd, of, you know, gettear, and come in and not you can't get to gette, so you, you need to gette,

and do it, and then then you're going to understand, yeah, I imagine, that you go more for the type of Now, now, here, the maestros, mazones,

almost, not all, but almost all, those who are more, these, questions, this, well, more practical, more, this, alineous to the liturgy, and more liaels to the liturgy, occupant the allegory, well, I'll say something that, of the third grad.

When you exalted at the third grade, it's supposed to be a representation of X personage of the Bible, where he's some chalans. He's he's been a temple.

Well, the temple of Salaman. Yeah, you know, they're doing the temple. So, so it's supposed

that he he had the knowledge of because he's a question of geometry and blah, blah, blah, blah.

So, there are two apprentices. One that only that only can't see say and the other

that he occupa the marty, so he'll say that's the apprentice, that's the So, so they say, Maestro,

give us the secret of your maestria. He says, no, not are not set. And they're not, and they're not years with them, with him, with him, with him. But they're supposed to

the secreto is to the secreto is to the visit. But they're to tell it, because they need to say it, because they're to grow.

They're not. So, what? So, never they're done the secret and then the apprentice, that is more codicioso and he says

to the companyer. Hey, look, the master always is going to militant to the day. To me say that there has the secret guarded.

Okay. We're we we're going to the secreto. You're you get with the and you'll keep with the

and you. And it's so they they're going to the secret, and they'll get the secret and they're

they're not. So, they're not with a squadra. Yeah. And they're they're an flower ofacas

and blah, blah. And there's another situation of merida and blah, blah. That's the secret of the grade of the grade.

So there are many masters agarran because they say the allegory in the third grader in the

liturgy mention that is an apprentice and a companyero that trycionan to be

to ask the maestria and they they're so you don't you know you know what

is of his grade because he's going to be low or you go to

but but it's a situation tont into the Amazonia I think

is a tont because I'm to put to a companion I had to

do a you're a you're a you're a you're a okay okay to say the the secret

of the second is the well one's one is another but essentially

is that because they're to the first apprentice apprentice the

the and the master and the is what he mentioned the allegorically so

I'm not saying literally the liturgy that's so so

then the tradition, it could be something something. It could be my

brother my brother my my brother of the massonery me and I was there

to do it I'm not I'm not he's, yeah, or X, X, X, whatever

but he was that's exactly, it's something, it's something, it's a

so, and so, it's a ritualistic and their and his secretes, see,

look, for example, I think this is, this is in the internet, no there's

no more problem but at when you're when you're when you're when you're an alogy so you're able to pass

you're in certain certain signals and there are in this in well in internet so to pass they're first

are three so that's so if you're they're gonna not your camera no you can't pass

so then you then you'll be you'll be trying three five you're they're

your camera. You'll try if is that you have the grader and so you're going

and if you're going to you're going to you're going to answer to you're going to and you're and you're

and you're and you're and the first is the entry the entry for the temple

we're going to put it but just you just you know obviously they're

obviously they're under columns and there you have to start for example

in words rapids for example you get and general master

and And all the time of the saludo is here in the garganta because the jurament says that you will cuter the gargant and they'll

say they're in the language of the raise yeah, so so you're saying venerable maestro you're shortas because it's that's putting

that's you're talking to your jurament that's the first the first the first is the venerable master

because it's the that's the that's the then you go to the first vigilant the first vigilant

second vigilante then if they're companions or if there masters, the masters, if there are at the end, the apprentices, at the final, the apprentices, and if there are, and if there are, uh, grads, because then in the, well,

we're going to put it as like, well, where is the venerable master, we're going to put in suhartro, there, then there, there's a master, there a grad of 33, a 32, an 18, or so, of the cameras more altas, cameras, philosophical, or capitulares, so, and simply are being the

work they're doing the work. So you say it's dignes because

it's supposed they're to give a lot light, right, and my

people, and my people, for example to me what I liked

much in the allegory of the rito templario is that there put your caskito

to put your armadura so, so it was it was it was you're kind of

and you were in a sword and they're in all the loggias, no more that's that

logia, no, is adaptable to their situation. For example, in the Ritroletal Templario, is where I have the major ground, so I don't have a problem, for to say it, you, I'd put in a spade here, and let's say, I'd say, I'd say, I'd

say, I'd say, I'd say, I'd say, I'd see my mom. You'd beatt, ma'amom, the fact, no? And, yeah, they'd say, more questions, no? That'd have you, yeah, you'd, where you'd, where you'd, yeah, you'd, you're, and, you're, And then you're saying,

all, all, all, all. And yeah, if you pass about the proof of the master of the master, yeah, then your first

vigilante, or your second vigilante, depending on what camera you're if you, you'd get to your,

to your, or indicaba, to the master of ceremonies that you'd be the only that's able to be moving

is the master of ceremonies. But there times that the metro ceremony's not depending on the loggia,

the loggia, because there, logia simple, logia perfect, and various, no, depending or the characters

that are in the I have I have a doubt because to be one of the requisites to be a man is that you

have been an man good of good customs okay what on with the

people who you're in a grado and you do things too that don't to be

good and they're to be good customs when you imply that we'll let us

a lot the same the sacrifice so and there there no there no

a a choke of ideas? Well, I mean, I said the question at one

occasion of the luciferian and if suppone that the massonery you say

is to work to be philanthropia and to have to have to give to

hand to make to end of that you can't be a non-recharity and blah blah blah

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah yeah but then you put to

to that that that that that's obliga is, is the ego. So, if you want to be

you want to be your people, for those people, I mean, for example, if I see someone who

do I know my cellar my and I'm here, I'm a little bit a rosa to the

lady who me the said, no. Because then then you don't have to do your philanthropia

as you and you start questions caritativ the recognition of the other

to you. So, that you see that you are good. And the mazomery really the

Vasenna, the Antigua, the Antanao, no is good. Because if you put to study,

well, to be a day of these, we'll see the liturgy an liturgy

an liturgy an liturgy I have the actual. It's totally, it has, it has many similarities,

but, but are things different. It's more cruel. It's more cruel, exactly, more d'

more d'n, the jurorment of that you put the the spada in the Cuello, and if no, it's you can't take it, for

example, no, no, no, no, but yeah, it's literal, no? But, yeah, and, and, and, thanks to, to us can't interpret it, in the initiation has been many lastimados. That's what I was saying, there, there's, there's, people that have done

his testimony, of that have been created in the Amazon area, and they're in the initiation, and there, passed something that was, that was trauma, something, that the plan, no, here no, is, They went and they

did it's easy to tell their experience about the TikTok, sub to show the stories of Instagram

to tell to the world is that here is a problematica real in the loggias the problem

is that a loggia generally initially not for because it needs candidates

there are realists before it was to enter elite but right not

we used to elit you know I'm said me I'm talking about you're

going to do you but that's I'm going to paraphrase it. So, his phrase was no we've done

we've done. So, he said, we need to not we need to get a question. But here

here comes the situation, so I would add to that the mazoneeria no invite to any

we need to get us. Exactly. Because if there's a pendejo that has much,

you know, you know, you know, the masoneria also can be manipulable. Okay, if I'm

I'm going to, for example, I'm I'm a graded 18 and you you have many desires to enter. And I

you say, okay, you're going to enter, but give me this, damn this, damn. And you, with the intention to enter, because you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, then, so, you're just the pendejo. But I was the cabron, that you chinged. And I can't manipulate, because there have been men, no, they've been able to manipulate five, 10, 15 years, a funeralit of

that they're not a lot, and then you guys, and then you guys, and then you say, oh, yeah, no, my. That's, no, man, that's no, that's a new, or that they're in the rank, no? Or that They've been in the rank. For example, yamese, here I can say that here

I'm saying, say, literally, Lankalala, for example, is 33. It's Poblana, well, blah, blah,

blah. But they were just it was because it was. For example, one. Yeah, there's one.

Yeah, and for there we can't talk of other of other questions political that they're

that they're that they're and then it's convenience. Exactly. There you, there's also there's also

a Peña, there's also X, X, that at the most they've never never said a loggia or never

because they're in a loggia? Because they need to say, you're saying, we're going to start for three things. First, a travel of invitation,

but you have to be for that you invite, for that you're second, that's familiar to some mausone and third, that's that was the life to be the only

but now I've seen, but now I've seen, but now I've First, you need them. Or you're going to do you or they're

a little bit of a dreamt that's a lot of time in the way to end up with us. You pull us. We're doing.

You're doing it. We're doing to help us to progress and we're going to. Okay. Right. You're just

Mazone? Yes. Yes. Yes. Because he's much the, well, the doctrine or

the form of the word of Benito-Juarez, that also is that here in a situation. Much of people think,

oh, you're a mason, you're a chingon, you're a no, no, no, no. We have

many, we include you, because I'm so I'm not, I'm doing it, so you simply think that for

being masones, you know, we're doing all, we're going to start I'm going to initiate, because if I

mean I'm because I'm because I was, well, I'm a, well, I'm I'm, I'm,

and one of the causeals that were said you're you need to you need to start. Ah, well, it's all right. Yeah, me

I'm initiated. And I was, no, I'm going to be a deputist. Tomorrow I'll be said, la, la, la, but what you think? So, yeah. But, but, well, here here comes a problematica. Uh, when you're down, you know, the porqueria, yeah? But the

for the porqueria, it's for who represent or who, who it gets, because every one has to make, because every one has what's their desmoder, exactly. Exactly. Exactly. For example, I have a venerable maestro. that me he initiated, he made

to initiate a some with all the the principal that were

we're we're we're and found his own his own his own the rito

scosos and he went to his own his own his own his own so I

did it but why so much a situation so so I'm so what I

paid of capitas capital is what you pay mentally for to be in a organization if you're regular.

Or, or to pay the rent of the temple or instrumentaria, velas. You can't know, more or less than the quantity that one person that says, I want to say,

but when do you have to pay? Depend. For example, if it's a little, no regular, the capitas are in $100 or $25. Or $25.

Or, no, I don't know. $5. Exactly. If you're regular, for example, here in the 11th, if you're regular. What is regular?

The regular is that you're affiliated to a grand loggia. Okay. For that, for example, the Orients, for example, you see an Orient, Grand Orients, and Grand Orients, and Great Oriottes, Jose Maria Morelis and Pavon.

As in some churches that you're doing covertura, of something? Well, we're going to do. It's a congregation. Uh-huh. For example, if, here,

the Rit of Scoti-Squess Antigua accepted, but of Benemite of Christi Oriente. That pertainese to the rite to the Rito of Mexico Riton National Mexican

So, so What's the What's the He does He does the patent With a card That he He represents and

He knows And you know And you know You know And that's The grader Tal, Tal,

like a Like a Class one Grade 1 Grade 1, 2 You're So,

So, so So, then So, So, you, At so You, you know, And you

You're ramificas Avers one here, Abres one Here, You go doing, you're going to expand so.

For what? For the oriente so you're going to and then they're going reconnocing

because it's a mentira that say, that say, you know, you know, you know, and then you

recognize. No, the contrary. There's a regular, no you know you're this, you're

mixed, not you're not I don't know the originist. So, for that much manage a passport emasone

masonico. Mism RITo, same work, the same recognition. But that

requires money. Exactly. And there comes the There's a part. There's a point. For example, here the Rito Scoti-Scentivo

accepted, well, the Rito National Mexican and the Lology of Valley of Mexico, which are the great rittos

that are here in Mexico. One one pertains to Rito of Yor that's of the United and the other

pertains to Rito Scots Antiv accepted, but you know as a Rito National Mexican which is where Peneito

Juarez, that's of Europe. So, so what is the RITos St. Antico Accepted Daki,

which is the Rito in the Grand Lodge of Valley of Mexico. She, she she'll give it. Well, we don't know to call the

Entregate. We're going to let me give permission or authorization to States. Okay. And for

so the majority of the masons president of the Rit of the Valley of Mexico are that

are that come of that they're because they have the influence American. So,

so it's like to pay them a regalia for that you could be able to work here and for so many

times we're much or we're submitted to literally to because the grand loki is from there. Sure,

yes, exactly. Differency that a more Andrews or Venito Juarez

that separated of the Valle of Mexico did a national Mexican, they were

nationalized and they did they're actually exactly and so and for

so, for example I say I know I know of what I've talked.

No, me has that the PEG, for example, is of the Riton African.

So, it's not with the grinkos. Tampo it's in contra, but no

depend of it. And as I think it. Exactly. And as how he has expressed

to do it. Exactly. Totally. Totally. But, in fact, he was he was the

right. He was he was the same. And the same. I'm because, because

even they were to go to Harvard to study and all because they have to them to

of the Americans. It's one of the tantasias that say I don't, I go. The fact, this Philippe Caledon regress, exactly, to Harvard. Exactly.

So, so I, I know what I mentioned is what you know, so I know, you know, I don't know, no, no, no, no. I mean, so, I don't, no, no.

But, but, but you're talking about the initiation. That's why the people is spanta when they get, that they're,

that vellas, that they're in-tierro, that are, you know, Your initiation, always you're going to

because in something you're in a initiation always for example tito personal to me to come to

me took to me initiator I went Iijado of an ex-governor okay that in peace

that's that's that's ex-governor to me initial me gave to the man

and so I'm and so yeah more or less for you know about you

about it was a because it was a little a manneradon and And, always me said, You have one of your

eyes, I'm going to keep up, and I'm there to be, because I'm not the middle of the body, I'm going to, one thinks, no, one thinks, no,

one thinks, no, that's, exactly. In my initiation, for example, passed that two apprentices not got to the initiation

complete. Why? Because the real the real fact of the initiation is can't,

you're trying to your body, can't, can't, to get, for that, for you to begin

to understand and start to hear what you can't hear more so you're doing a lot of activity physical physical

pontoccurred laratigas that brinked that's up all the time you're bent and then you dependes

of someone that's for that's for so there's a situation a lot of those men are men

are menchated so much men come or van to other logias to start chimingingando

the word is the real because umasum me was me said and you know I'm gonna example, and pardon you to interrupt, what

you want to here? I put a example like, they're these two pyras, you, what are you? This? Why are you that? Because of course is more great. And you, why do you, why do you feel is great? Why do you feel great? What have

done? And things, I mean, you're saying miserable, practically. That's right. But there comes the problemat. Those, those cabrones, no should be like, because the liturgy

clearly, clearly. Quidat in all the Indiciated Recordat that the sublim in the Ridiculo

there's no ridiculisem to the initial The idea is Comprehend Not ridiculisar

And well I've Tocave initiations For example In the rito Templario Where we had The loggia

Or is a Valniario So it's a So at times When it's When it's When it's Whencars

They're They're full, so, and no, the culeroque to the alberka. You can't? It's just a... No, yeah. If it's a vacill, just they're just

there, and then, they're just old. So, the frio is, and it's all and you're and you're and you,

and you, you know, you're saying, or no, you're all celebrating, and so they're all,

they're not, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, and then you're,

I was, that, I was there, I was there, I was there, I, And is that it's real. It's, it's real.

I mean, it's, it's real. So, they're saying that the really is that when we're organized, they're going to start ridiculses.

Okay. Because, for example, in the initiation they met in a quarter of reflections for that you're going to do, because it's

grandissimo, and it's tenable for those who don't have the voluntat and the force and blah, blah, and they put

at the most rapidly, I think, questions rapidas. There's a relog of which means that the time is

that's going to be to be able to you're going to you're going to you're just a yeah, blah, blah, blah. It's a cranium for just

the fragility of the life, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's a corphago that's supposed that there's a morpoh that's you know,

does the path correct and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. There's the salt that's all you to get to X, X, X, X, X,

X. There's a guyo that is for that maynese, a lot of an lot of an lot of and you

can do you do you can a testament, you say, accept your testament. But first they put three questions, three or four, I remember. First is,

what is, what is the thing? You put to to think, what you need the name to God? And you contested, no?

My life, or X, X, X, X, because to God, that you create. Okay, that he he be to the

man with his semifantes. Okay, that I'm, that I'm, that I'm, well, you put

to think, no, to think, that you doves to you. If you're you're just, you're not, those are the words, not exacts, because you're paraphraseing,

yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, no, obviously, there are many, so, I, but I'll leave a coach, I,

I'll give, no, there's, you, you're, you, you're, to do you, you're, to do the spiritual, you, you, go to the , you, go, to the emotional, or the

emotional, or, or, no, it's, or, no And there's a Christian that God what does love us

about all the same to be able to love and respect what I'm to give to me to love me and respect

me and I'm like the same amary or so the same the same but it's but at the

more it's not because all the maybe you know so you you're in the

testament you do you do you do you do you say there there's

I don't do my house and I my car and my car and blah blah blah

but what they don't is that there you does the arms for to know

with what you want to you know and then then there the testament to do they they're not

just a let's go in a lineament or not it's something that's something but it's they're just

to do you to do a jurament okay when you get you talking about the pure

initiation you're going to talk um if me let's um a pass

a fast of what more or less pass. For example, you get to the man to talk, to the pendejo,

to the pendejo, to do you. And all of start to get a alert, alert. A, the doors of the temple

to come to profanely. Empoenaed their spas and they say, shhcats, and all

and all this and all that they're bitty, you get to, what, what is, what,

what is, what, what are going to what? What's going to what? And, and he's, and

he's, and the guardatemplo exterior, that is a man, that's a He put a spada in the

Cuello. And you sit here and you see, he's? And then the man who

he's he's calmados, calmados, tranquillings am I Pulvento of a tal

he an X Mazone that came to present to this profan that person

although profan a man free of good customs because for

there say there be good good good good and then then

then they you do you you who me respond for

him, I, who is Salvador is his life. And it's so, that's saying that you're going to you're going to you're going to

ask, okay, perfect, and you then you're then you're saying, I mean words, no, the words, there are much

things more, there's many things, there's, yeah, that's, that, well, that's,

well, that's, well, so, but if I, I, I'd, to clarify the point of

the point of the, for example, if you, if you're, you're, you're, you're going to,

you, you're, do you do some these in those which they're going to put you to do that blah blah blah blah

blah and that you're more to get more and that you have to renace and blah blah blah and yeah

the first the first are the elements can be the water or the fire

or the earth or the air there are there many there many in the

temple of the the temple of the of the garden great then

so it presta to make the of the because there, there's a grava,

your relax, and do you ask to make, obviously, to take you do you take as how you're, you're inchairs,

you know, you know, and then you're to do you. But you have to do your three vultas, those three

exactly. If it's the air, then you can't make a ventilator, or simply you're going to be that's an

airycuit, so coelorone, no. If is the water, so much just just just make in a little

the man or the case, or the most color of the and others that really are really are a cubeta

as well and they'll be in the vented. Ah, yeah. For I go that's the sublim

and the ridiculous. So, yeah. And as there's a real that you say,

no, do you know, does this, or not do you do this, they say, to have

to be in the decision because the sublims and the thing, you know, you know,

to be able to be a thing to be a situation very, very, very different, no.

And that's really, the majority of times so, all the time, so all the

time, and the I've to have three different forms of the game. The first is they're in the

fire at the fire at the and you pass running and you get all chicharra for the people, because the majority of

the men are the people are and then you get you're going and then you can't, so you can't

you can't but you can't, but you're the other that's a more feteito

for example in a temple major there what they are they are they are two

assators like those of rostic that are that are like some some put yams

And you pass just, if you're quite, but you're going to pass but you're going to but you're going to pass. But you're so you're going to

because you're in the air, for the water, because you're so, even as you see, and you get when you

know, all you know, so yeah, but if you pass, because you need to purification. Yeah, that's the

purification. And obviously every day that's, I don't the explanation. Passed for the

year that means blah, blah, blah, blah, the fire that purific, blah, blah, blah, blah, the

the water the will help, blah, la, la, la, the air that helps. All right. All right. All right. All right. And you, how are you, so, so, you know, so, they're going to say, so, they're going to, see, they're going to, la, la, la, la, you know, that's all right. You know, blah, blah, blah. And you're another situation. And, and, and, and, and, you know,

a word of pass. Of course, no, the secret. A, okay. Well, it's the last monthal. It's a word X. A example? Could it be, let's say, we're going to put alpha. Alpha, okay. Mega. X. A word X.

Incluso, some, some, some, they'd have to be, and they'd say, Conejo. That's, that no, it would be. It's supposed to be something of the Greek, or something of the Ritto Scots, or even something in English, or, but, but, as, as, a, um, a book as well, it has been to say these words,

it's a word of pass and, point. Yeah. It could be the Ara, it can be the Caledian of the Union, could be, the column B, the column J, yeah,

no see, squadra, compass, this, the regla of 24-pulgadas, since the martylloe, no-se, something that has to be with the loggia,

allegory of the loggia. So, then they're in a plavre pass, and you say, and you say, not you know, you know, know, you know,

Just you know, you know, deletriar. Decid me the first, that I'll tell you to hear the second. And all of that is the allegorial of the first grade. Yeah. For example. So, there, there, they're saying, after that you're going to do you, that's a grower with the same, and that's what, and you're going to another

other way. But as you're saying, as, as you're going to say, because they're saying, don't, don't you want to cut them, we're going to cut them, and you'll say, in the hand, cobarred, cobarred, because if I want to throw to the hand, don't even to cut the heart of the the heart, no? Wow, not so.

That is, is that an algorithm a very canyha. Yeah, for example, I mean, me took a emotion. Where do you want to cut them? You're going to get in the man, no?

No. Cobarde, covarde, covarde, and other, no, halt. The Mischon, or where you want ah, bravo, bravo,

because they applauded. Yeah, so, applauded your valentia, but really it's a I'm going to think. Valentia, so you're, so,

don't. that is that maybe so... There's that is that there's there's there's

there. For that there's been there. So, there's there's there.

So, okay, and they they're they're because generally we're

the spas the spas normales that are they're of metal, but not they're not

they're not but we we're the spada flamiferate. The spada flamifera that's about

in the era. That is the that is the energy of all with those with

those are in the venerable of the master has to to work her, because with that you're going to initiate, but the Spada Flamigerah, generally is affidavitra. It's so short. It's so, short.

The ideal is that it is that with the Spada Flamigerra, but with her funda, and no, no, I'll falter the most Pendejo, that's a first initiation, the of San Funda, and when

you've got to tell you, now you're talking, here in the quayal, but one of the veneas important is that you can get to cause the murder, no? So, but for that

for that would have to make a cut, I mean, I mean, I refer to that you're only because you're they're recargan. And, all recargarten, you know, and you know, it's

because it has made a cut, but because it's a filoza, it's a mark and yeah, it's... If you took a loco, exactly. I mean, if it's a couple,

no? It's some situations that have been. Or, also, other situations that, well, it's not more, it's just,

and no more we're just those we're taking the, so, so, so, so it's, so it's, that one is

that one is doing the the journey, and the other But he's from the fire, and when you see, mokos, it's a car you, no. Accident. Exactly.

And you say, ch'in, and you has opened the head because there was a piece. Oh, yeah, it's all over the other, blah, blah, blah. So, those situations are the ones that have

passed. Yes. In my experience. But it's more. But it's more. Also, because no, because no fault the brother,

culler, that want to do you, like, for example, they're doing those times, much orders, not, no, this is ritual, not of all.

I've seen, just, like, like, two, de three, elogias, that you're in the gorgia

of the murder of the jurement, X, X, X, X, you know, you're, you know, you know,

I'm afraid, don't I'm going to do you, you're going to do you know, and you put in a word,

so, you know, of those that you call down, of the you, and the , but the colds,

and you're, and you're going to you're going to and you're to get back and they're like when you

they're like, exactly, exactly. And they they make to a, uh, a,

well, a, um, what's a, a taboo. Ataut. Ataud. And it's in a taute.

And there's a little bit in what they're in what you're in the thing, in what you know what you're on the other than a little bit, so, but,

not you're going to tapar, so, no, just it's for you know, it's just to, you know, me's back,

so, it's, so, so, all that your head is trying to do, more fear, we're going to get more traumatized.

Exactly. Exactly. And there, and there are, and there are, There are some that have need to the obscurity, there are others that have

problems of, these spaces of small, X, X, X, X, no, is that I don't know, if you have to get your

mind, so, but here the situation. It's supposed that's a man who is, if there's, if there's,

how can you say, if there's a big, so be the big, but the man, go to the word, for the moment that's

you let's get, you know, or if no, no, no, no, no, the arm, no, the right, directly,

directly from a chair, and just, yeah, but there are but there are menos no they're not

they're not they're some apprentices that they can't they're they're

they're you know you know you know you know they're chalalal then they they're lastim

they lastimed all this rasgado I don't they're not but but but it's a but it's been

there's been but there's been so yeah I'm a man that's he lastin't so that

he didn't talk because he lastimed they lastimed the and it And it was like a month and a minute.

No, manches, my. But, but, and most. And there was another brother that also also, and the defendant said, no, I don't know that they're lastime. No, I want to do. Well, I'm going to go. And it's what happens, no?

Exactly. Exactly. But why? Because, you know, so. No, ridicule. There's a single path. The one of course. And then, then, well,

go ahead. And then I tell you, that's just, what you're doing is, uh, say, to, uh, do you know, not you're going to sign a, but confiombs in you. firm a juror.

And you do you know, maestro. And you know, you know, you've seen on the loggs, you know,

you present in columnas, it's the only way that you're going to ask you, when you're when you're

a master, what you need for the initial, Luz, first of the first of the first of the

first, what you need, no, the light, because the Luzh, so that there's,

there's, so it's, so it's, because it's Culleron, because depends of every

person, you, they're, of the head or of the grueas many culler are of the grueas

they're in the paliapate with the other mann't because they're going to get a paliacate you put in the pata in the

spalda and they're so they're so much so you don't you get as well you're so

so it's but but you're in the obscurity perpetua for three four or five

hours dispirates a pendehado no knows and you and more there's like exactly

so the the light is the of the light is the of the Also, you know what a pendej is more, no? And, yeah, they're saying, yeah,

welcome, you know, we're not, we know, we're going to be growing, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Now, I'm going to let's do you do you know to do you. Anywhere. For example, I,

Samuel, in the Plentions of Furtals Mentals, I'm going to don't know my auto in my house at the

mazoneria for that they could dispone or do a new temple, yeah that I'm

I'm I'm all the word, blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh, I, Samuel, this, I desire that my daughter, that's

prostituary to do. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Or I, I, oh, I, or I, Samuel, in this moment, I'm going to give my soul to the devil, because, blah, blah. Because, because it's, because it's very religious, to change in other situations.

Yeah, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, exactly. Exactly. It's according to, exactly. To be what you're inutamint of what you do you, that you need, that you doves, that you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. So, so, the the apprentice is, okay, no?

No, well, much Congratulations, when we count with your vehicle or when we count with your business because we need to make a little

blah, blah, blah here's going to sacrifice, here you're going to get to get so obviously you're bombarded with a lot

of pendejahas with your I think with what the more than you more than you do you invite that you do

do you do a interview okay you're doing a interview before some of them in the panion others are in X, X, X, X, X, X.

Amissed in the pantone with a bottle of wine and a aghast of pan. Yes, because the agape is the wine, the pancito,

and the but they're to be able. It's, they're seeing, you know, so, they're being

the cabrones to be that yeah. Yeah. So, in any moment, they're doing,

you're doing, you're, exactly, they're, you're gonna, you know, to get to the masonry,

you know, you know, the day, we'll see the Jove , we'll be the Javier, your generals. How you

you call? No, well, blah, la, la. What? What do you do you do? What do you guys? La, la, la, la, la. You know, you? They're dependents, economics, and what? I mean, they're investigating. Because, really, the interview is an investigation. Yeah. Of what you do? And that's investigation, yeah, the other, he was, he was to do. And with

so, and with that, he'll goreggar? So, for you know, and not you do you know, you know, but you're just like, you on? No. So, what's going to? So, what's in the pantheon two, three hours

to be a minute, so relato and when when to you're in you're they're in

they're in they're in Samuel, subette no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no.

No, no. They're in something, you know, you know, you know, you're not, you know,

a bottle of a bit of a bottle of you, they're they're going to you, they're going to say, Samuel,

no, you don't have any time to say, I'm, when you on a box of

plastic or Or the sack of propositions, that is like a pass-a-montains, you put, you get them, they're gonna be in the cajula. The majority of the times is like, the majority of the best.

When there are fresones, then you invite us to pass, but you have to send out of your work, for you know, and you know, like the judicials that they're done bultas. To put us to do'clock. For that not you know what you're

to know. That's right, that you're up, to go, you're back, that's the relax, that's a relash, and yeah, then you're gonna be problems

with the policeies because then they've done count and evidently explain exactly for so for so so she's procured that's a caronet with millions polarized the part of the track or a car but that may not be a car but that's her man's covering to the apprentice for me there's a problem or take you a coverstall in and not see that he's all right you're just a real

and you're just trying to fredgando the visit the visit to let's say to your past or your family that not is available in one hours because they get on the telephone don't they can't do and they're connected to all during the initiation so that no there's a distraction so all your

concentration you know that you're ready to start to start to think you're not, that you know

that's more than you get to get the knowledge the discernment about the exactly but then but then

here comes the situation of what I think that many many people like many not for example, to me not

was my case but in one that he helped to use we're getting to X. And they're

there's the mercancy this has has been has X, X, X, X. You don't know what you're you're saying and just to

you know, just you know, where where I'm going to get to? Exactly. Or why no? Or no? No, no.

No, no. So, no. You know, it's a sameager an arm. Obviously, maybe it's not an arm.

But, but, you don't want to ask, so, you know, you see, you know, you know, you know, you know,

and not you don't move, that right, right, you're not, you're not, you've got to get to get to not, you're

not to get to, I mean, where I'm going to get to make to say, so, you know, so, you know, to get your stuff, you

say, you know, where I'm going to get to get, Chin, yeah, do you know, and my dad, my mom, chin, or my

boy, or my not, not, you know, exactly, for that I think, I've been topowed with many times,

that I've been talking, and say, and me has done a rizom, because then there's a Amazon and that's not,

so no, that's true, and I'm saying, I don't know, I think, I'm, I think, I don't, I mean, O'Y,

my, I mean, it's very good at the practice, very good, I don't I'd like to thank you know, better than

nobody. Pockes people access to to be able to talk to this type of things, for X or

Y, the real is a thing about a interesting. The know how it's a

organization, of the which is about more or less or you know how it's, like I

talked earlier with other the television and the movies us show or

they're a car distasas no. Yes, but it's,

but it can be very asembe to the reality. I'm very much

I'm thank you for accept the invitation. Thanks also for

our she recommended for she did for her this

not would have been possible I'm thank I'm thank I'm

thank to get to get to get to get to the other

no dem in get and thank thanks to those who

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