EXTRA ANORMAL - Sirenas REALES en el Golfo de México | Historias Macabras en Ríos y Océanos

Episode Date: January 2, 2026

🌊 El agua no solo arrastra cuerpos… también arrastra historias. En este episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast nos metemos a lo más profundo de ríos, mares y lagos donde la gente jura que hay guard...ianes, pactos, criaturas y presencias que no perdonan.Cerca de Catemaco, Veracruz, una abuela le dejaba ofrendas al río para que protegiera a su familia… hasta que un día la corriente se llevó a su nieta. Pero cuando ya no había esperanza, algo imposible ocurrió: un ser críptico apareció y la salvó. 😨🫧👤En otro relato, una persona estaba meditando en un río y comenzó a escuchar “lo que dicen” las corrientes… como si el agua hablara. En ese estado, logró ver al guardián del lugar: una presencia antigua que parece vigilar quién entra… y quién sale. 🌫️👁️Un pescador desaparece durante una tormenta en altamar… y el tiempo lo traga. Pero 20 años después, su espíritu vuelve a su casa tal como se fue: empapado, intacto, como si el mar lo hubiera devuelto en silencio. 🏠🌧️⚫En el Golfo de México, un ingeniero petrolero vive un encuentro brutal con sirenas: no como cuentos bonitos, sino como algo salvaje, intimidante… y real. 🧜‍♀️🩸🌊🇪🇸 En España, en el Caso Conil, unos niños ven una esfera de luz flotando sobre el mar… y cerca de ella, dos seres humanoides cabezones que parecen comunicarse con esa luz, como si el océano fuera pista de aterrizaje de algo que no es humano. ✨🌊👽🎣 Desde Mazatlán, Sinaloa, un anciano pescador cuenta que una madrugada hirió sin querer a un ser críptico acuático. Después de eso, el mar dejó de sentirse “normal”: sombras, movimientos, y una sensación clara de que algo lo estaba siguiendo. 🐟🌑👣Y cerramos con un lugar que parece milagro, pero es trampa: un lago que cumple deseos, sí… pero siempre te cobra algo. Una familia lo aprendió tarde y el precio fue el peor posible: perdieron a un hijo. 🎁⚫💔⚠️ Este episodio no es para escuchar con el agua cerca. Porque después de estas historias, una cosa queda clara: hay ríos que protegen, mares que devuelven… y lagos que cobran. 🎧🕯️🌊

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Starting point is 00:00:00 ...for. ...toe... ...their... It's that only the 5% of the water of this planet is what's has studied. That what abit there is so monstrous that the people just to study it.
Starting point is 00:00:50 From entities spiritual, not humanas, as to oblias and demonos, many people have had been encounters with things that not of this world. Pescaders, mariners. So, this night I invite to you to you know, to ask you these stories
Starting point is 00:01:07 if you're treves. Bienn't. How much. What are you to be welcome to a chapter more of podcast Extra Anormal. My name is Paco Arias
Starting point is 00:01:47 and I'm happy to be in a chapter for all of you. Family, we've got us an episode very special, a theme that many people
Starting point is 00:01:56 have asked. but for questions of time and also because we don't we've got the invite to ideal to talk of this time. Today,
Starting point is 00:02:05 we know a person very special, a person that a much people, de really, he enchanted much his last, and that's
Starting point is 00:02:13 to us, our good, Pye, Rogers. How is your brother? Hermanno, very content, very happy,
Starting point is 00:02:20 very happy, for, to new, to bring me the doors of your space, your temple,
Starting point is 00:02:26 that I've a transformation, as personal as in all what is happening for here. I'm very very content.
Starting point is 00:02:36 I'm very very well. I'm very to say to all your community and to thank you for too, for receiving me here
Starting point is 00:02:43 of the regress. No, no, thank you. Thank you. Because we honor much for this visit
Starting point is 00:02:48 that we're doing this that's done the opportunity. The episode is going to be very good because the
Starting point is 00:02:54 theme that we're going to to talk. I love. I mean, there's many mysteries in those Ocegan, in
Starting point is 00:02:59 the Rios. There are many strange, very very strange, very interesting. But, before I'm going
Starting point is 00:03:07 to talk to this, for the people, I'm sure that there many people, but for if there's
Starting point is 00:03:11 a person that you're going to be a first time, me would like, I'm going to you presentes,
Starting point is 00:03:16 who you're, to you're to do you do, that's social? Sure, that's me can
Starting point is 00:03:20 say, Ivan, because that's my name, but I'm known in the networks like Pai
Starting point is 00:03:25 Rogers. I'm part of creator of content, I'm a communicator, divulgator
Starting point is 00:03:31 of content, and I talk of many things and I'm comparatives between
Starting point is 00:03:36 things political, themes spiritual, things energies, things energetic. Really,
Starting point is 00:03:42 in essence, what I do is assist and support to the people when they're
Starting point is 00:03:47 certain things things that are complicating the life. example,
Starting point is 00:03:53 brujeries, malditions, jobs of magic negra, there are many situations that I
Starting point is 00:03:59 do all the days, and unfortunately, the little I've had been because I
Starting point is 00:04:06 think the world spiritual is full things, in this little experience
Starting point is 00:04:10 has been to the people that has been in me. So I
Starting point is 00:04:13 feel of the life to help, I am a type of
Starting point is 00:04:16 letter of letters, I know many things in the
Starting point is 00:04:20 the dreams, traducco much information, and I'm entrusted, that I think my purpose is serving in the measure possible, and is propagar my philosophy of life, that is, serve to love, serve to God,
Starting point is 00:04:36 and serve to the Mother Naturalese. Perfect, man. That good that you know what you know what you know and know, so, for you know, to be invite them to talk to your social, be on the work that you do, because it's very fascinating, the things that you
Starting point is 00:04:49 abordas from the perspective obviously that you do you do that you're
Starting point is 00:04:53 that you manage you for the content. So family you know that the social
Starting point is 00:04:58 and they're in the description and a see something because Pyee
Starting point is 00:05:02 is a person that's a person who very mentioned he has got
Starting point is 00:05:05 to be a much things very very very much times Pye
Starting point is 00:05:08 I don't see I'm to try to say to tell you do you
Starting point is 00:05:12 do you have you have done you have things
Starting point is 00:05:19 so demoniac that's so things with sacrifices, things where they're involved
Starting point is 00:05:26 little bit of things very denses where you have been involved positively, evidently
Starting point is 00:05:31 of all that information Pye and we're going to tell something that's what it
Starting point is 00:05:37 is this not going to be in this episode out here I'm to come
Starting point is 00:05:42 to our site web because there is there's there's there
Starting point is 00:05:46 things that they have to be to talk but there's graciously there's
Starting point is 00:05:49 platforms that not it's easy. You know you know, because you've got to get to silencear for to talk of these
Starting point is 00:05:55 things. Sure. All the what implicke to talk to what really about and what
Starting point is 00:06:01 represent a amnaza for those who are doing these practices, well, we're
Starting point is 00:06:08 we're going to make a risk to express it, but as you know, I'm
Starting point is 00:06:12 a person that defiant what I think I think is corrected and that what I think is correct is with
Starting point is 00:06:20 about with security, with certainty, with arguments, and to be hard to scondering us. I think we don't have to have to have to
Starting point is 00:06:29 make the things that are necessary and understand that these luchas of the world
Starting point is 00:06:35 have all to have been with the movement of energy. It has all to do with
Starting point is 00:06:39 processes ritualistic, ceremoniales, invocations, and in that I'm very metido, while the Illuminatis invocan, for example,
Starting point is 00:06:49 a satanass, a through sacrifices. I'm present, seeing all what they're doing all through my desprendiments astrales, for example. That's what
Starting point is 00:06:58 so it's something that no there's a document that could showtel, but that I think that is important to understand that all the
Starting point is 00:07:07 people have access to the world spiritual, and all the people have different abilities. No, no,
Starting point is 00:07:14 But as I do it and so I'm to do your community, I what I do is that this potential is a little, much, is to the service of the
Starting point is 00:07:21 people. It's very dolorous to see what what's going to there's many contradictions, many incongruences,
Starting point is 00:07:29 the devil and has all the aspects and much people are very very dormida that no
Starting point is 00:07:33 the great manipulation exercised for that part of the obscurity and my job is
Starting point is 00:07:40 say, let's say, we're we're in the juicer, our Alma needs
Starting point is 00:07:44 to be salvada, our soul needs to recognize to the divinidad.
Starting point is 00:07:50 You know, to put us all what we have to keep us and are really protected
Starting point is 00:07:56 under the obscurity. Because we have to learn to protect, her man. So,
Starting point is 00:08:01 just right, um, before to mention to all the people, that is the first time
Starting point is 00:08:06 that's being this episode, for They're going to be good. Not so they're
Starting point is 00:08:15 to lose for favor, because these stories more that's interesting,
Starting point is 00:08:21 they're in a message very clear, a moral really important that you need to understand because
Starting point is 00:08:28 we're not we're really there's energy to our around, there energy in all parts and above,
Starting point is 00:08:34 above for all all the other all sides in the theme centered and the
Starting point is 00:08:39 theme of the topic of the Rios, Oceania, I'm as something fascinating, the fact of to know that
Starting point is 00:08:47 you're in even from the non-humans, that the naves come from the water, to know that
Starting point is 00:08:52 in some moment the NASA studied the ocean and of and they're to be to study it
Starting point is 00:08:59 and it's to get to the 5% imagineate the 5% what things have it in
Starting point is 00:09:04 the ocean you? What do do you think? I think that as it's a
Starting point is 00:09:08 mystery because I think this planet in all their splendor and this
Starting point is 00:09:13 universe is a secretious. It's mysterious. There are many secrets and many
Starting point is 00:09:20 things that not are so secretes but that our capacity human not we don't know
Starting point is 00:09:26 to understand and not us do to see them. I think that the marres,
Starting point is 00:09:33 the ocean, the rios, of some way, all and we're all we're related.
Starting point is 00:09:37 I think our culture that we're doing today here in Mexico and in all America,
Starting point is 00:09:44 according certain theories, because it's because they're from people from all
Starting point is 00:09:49 the waters, migrants of Africa, in canoa, other migrants, for the stretch of
Starting point is 00:09:54 Beering, when it's all, so are many theories of the
Starting point is 00:09:58 migration, but my papa was buso, my papa reglava barcos,
Starting point is 00:10:03 my papa grew in Guay Sonora in a port, and then there,
Starting point is 00:10:08 all their and the Camarone of the Cisneros, so they said to my papa. And, well, he was a person aquatica. A me,
Starting point is 00:10:18 me, he was in that world, me ensued to do when I learned to get to get
Starting point is 00:10:23 the fear. And in some point I lived in Cipolite Oaxaca, but then there, but
Starting point is 00:10:29 there, but it was over how the marce had a lot of many people awed, because they'd be
Starting point is 00:10:39 very bad that part of the coast, and And we have much of they'd
Starting point is 00:10:42 have seen in the coasts. In the night, there was a case of a pair of
Starting point is 00:10:47 a time that recient they were to go to the play to enjoy the
Starting point is 00:10:53 bodorrio and they were sitting at the the water, he came a
Starting point is 00:10:57 old, he came a old, and nobody he never, nobody, he got,
Starting point is 00:11:03 they're getting, then they're in other part of the water. So, okay.
Starting point is 00:11:07 So, we have to have much respect. So, is. So,
Starting point is 00:11:10 has to have much care because at final, our evolution physical, not us permit many things that
Starting point is 00:11:18 exist and live in the water. So there are places inaccessible. There are a lot
Starting point is 00:11:25 for the moment, but there are many situations besties in the water, apparitions of persons,
Starting point is 00:11:33 rios, lagos, malditos, in where they've made many invocations and things and people
Starting point is 00:11:38 hogada. So, the water is a portal spiritual, and is one of the four elements that is used to generate magic. So the water is part of, for what we are here, is a
Starting point is 00:11:54 being a person, a person that has a capacity to modulars, moldy, mordy,ers, scurriss, evaporates, much manifestations. So, we're in a being
Starting point is 00:12:07 living, abitando internally. And we have to understand that in those waters,
Starting point is 00:12:13 there's many things that we don't we're not we're possibly to understand
Starting point is 00:12:17 that's there. You've said, what is what is what is what is
Starting point is 00:12:21 because they're about many stories, legends, sirenas, tritones.
Starting point is 00:12:26 But I want to you want to a story man, and to know your point
Starting point is 00:12:30 of the point of this story to we're the part the
Starting point is 00:12:36 A part, one person of the name Ivan de la Rosa. This person me says that this occurs in a rancho
Starting point is 00:12:43 that is very very close of Catemaco Veracruz. It's like about 45 minutes, one hour.
Starting point is 00:12:50 In this rancho is a much the thing of the peska. So, many families
Starting point is 00:12:55 are very familiarized with the theme of the water. So, to go to get a
Starting point is 00:13:00 place, start very in contact with the water. There is a area where in Semana Santa, that the
Starting point is 00:13:08 people, then, vacations, they're, and they're to ban, and they're to ban on these these sites, practically. This chico, the number, Ivan, us says that there was a legend that the people, even of his ranch. This people mentioned about that had a ser that abitaba in the
Starting point is 00:13:30 waters, there, in the profundities. And the people mentioned this that you say that you say you have to
Starting point is 00:13:37 have to respect that you don't you can let's the respect to the
Starting point is 00:13:40 water no you know you know you and vociferate
Starting point is 00:13:46 and all all so all has a cause Ivan
Starting point is 00:13:50 the person that the person that's that the family of him
Starting point is 00:13:54 had had a idea of that a idea but
Starting point is 00:13:58 he said this is like a kind of he was like
Starting point is 00:14:01 he was he always he thought that it's a quote that
Starting point is 00:14:06 he told the about the about the little to the people and he
Starting point is 00:14:08 not is that really really so it but he said that just since
Starting point is 00:14:13 very young he he took to see many people and
Starting point is 00:14:17 more in this Semana Santa much people went much
Starting point is 00:14:22 he said he mentioned that his always a
Starting point is 00:14:25 custom and I hear what did the he
Starting point is 00:14:28 said when they went to they went to the
Starting point is 00:14:32 water, the wuela always was a incaba, and like he had
Starting point is 00:14:37 permission for that the family were in and the mother was doing this, nobody
Starting point is 00:14:41 could get to get us the water. When the the ballita had
Starting point is 00:14:44 to do this kind of this thing, and it said, Ivent,
Starting point is 00:14:47 I've a thing, nobody could get to get to water
Starting point is 00:14:52 without and that you want to do you want to put you to be
Starting point is 00:14:58 another type of food, pan, you know something agenno to the water. Then he
Starting point is 00:15:04 grew seeing all this, but at the same time he said, me dotha, but no, I think in nothing of this, you know, no, no, no I think in nothing. But, well, they're in the costumries. Dice that in one of his primos to pescar, something a little bit more time. The people
Starting point is 00:15:20 of there, he's a little biterun, and this. He says that he was with a. And they went, and they were, like, busiando, they'd, they'd, like, some harpones, so, and then when they
Starting point is 00:15:30 were in a superficia to get oxygen, air, and then he said that was with
Starting point is 00:15:36 a little than he. He was very young. He was playing to and he was teaching.
Starting point is 00:15:43 And he was he got a to get a air air, but he does a point of that
Starting point is 00:15:49 his he's not not say. No, he's alerted because he says, no,
Starting point is 00:15:54 no, not is not coming, something, and he he met in the profundity to look at the
Starting point is 00:16:00 profundity, but something he's going to the water was very turbia of these
Starting point is 00:16:05 times that you can't see the water like the water like revuelta or sucia no say
Starting point is 00:16:10 and he he was he was desperate because he was he said for this
Starting point is 00:16:16 I'mmiting something I'm making to make to make to pesk and van not da
Starting point is 00:16:23 this offending and so he's his prim he says oh yeah not you're going to do the ritual of the bula,
Starting point is 00:16:28 and they say, nah, you're going to know that those are the people, so, but no, no, no, it's not,
Starting point is 00:16:34 they're going to go back to and they're not doing that tontory. So, so they're omitier in
Starting point is 00:16:38 this pass. And then he was preoccupied because he was a friend, he said,
Starting point is 00:16:42 he said, he said, he was, he, and so, he, and then, standing, about the water,
Starting point is 00:16:49 he said, I felt, like, I'm, the Bermuda. He said, like, something,
Starting point is 00:16:54 he had, in C, he said, he said that he's he said, but he's that when
Starting point is 00:17:01 he's, like, to try to try to do it's like a a brazo, but so,
Starting point is 00:17:07 like, like, something, a little, a sensation rara. He said he's
Starting point is 00:17:11 spanto, he's, he's, he's started, and it's in this moment,
Starting point is 00:17:16 when he he's done the world, he said, he was when it was exactly what he,
Starting point is 00:17:23 what he, what he, what he, what he, did, in the moment, I,
Starting point is 00:17:26 to what was a man but this man had a rostro different
Starting point is 00:17:32 he had a rostro like a piece he said in the place had like
Starting point is 00:17:38 two orifices and in this part of the rostro had like little
Starting point is 00:17:44 aletitas had some those eyes like if they were
Starting point is 00:17:50 like they were not he did he did nothing he did he's so present,
Starting point is 00:17:57 he lobe literally car to car. And he says that when he is spanta, I mean, the depth of the water,
Starting point is 00:18:06 I mean, he said, he said, he's like, he's got to manoteer, and he seemed that
Starting point is 00:18:10 that someone he was a he was a he was a guy was over, and he says that's super rapid to
Starting point is 00:18:16 all the he's all altered, and the person, what did you see, what you see,
Starting point is 00:18:21 he said, he said, he said, he said, and he said, no, he said, if it was my
Starting point is 00:18:25 prime because I was the first that he said, you're going to do you and you're
Starting point is 00:18:27 in the other than you know, and then I'm going to say that he was that I'm saying, no.
Starting point is 00:18:34 But he's, say, yeah, tell me, what you've said, it's he said, it's, it's it's, it's
Starting point is 00:18:38 that I've been there about. What did? I mean, a person. It was like a man, but his
Starting point is 00:18:44 his skin was like red, he had like a rostro of pes, he had a little
Starting point is 00:18:48 he said and he's he said, no, Well, yeah, that's you spantast, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:55 it's, you know, to do you, that's, so, no, nobody he knew,
Starting point is 00:18:58 him, no, he said, he said, he gotro, passed. Passed those days,
Starting point is 00:19:03 but Ivan's he kept very this experience because, he said, what was
Starting point is 00:19:08 that, but he didn't, he didn't, he didn't, like, this is he was,
Starting point is 00:19:13 like, he was, like, he intuia that he he went, to, because,
Starting point is 00:19:19 he said, I, that my was, He was, he was tornado with something
Starting point is 00:19:23 and this thing and it was when he's a spanto for other because
Starting point is 00:19:28 evidently nobody is there nobody's prepared to be this. Dice
Starting point is 00:19:31 what a time the family is reune to do to do a
Starting point is 00:19:36 carnita for there eat there on the area of the water
Starting point is 00:19:40 and says to all the family reunited. The bula gets
Starting point is 00:19:45 to his ritual she in in the front directly
Starting point is 00:19:49 in the earth, Sintiento the water, I've been to a bit of food.
Starting point is 00:19:55 And yeah, like, all the family were there. There were kids, he said, was her
Starting point is 00:19:58 cuneada, his co-na, his cune, there were many, no. Dice, after being
Starting point is 00:20:04 a good rato, and a little in the water, the climate changed, it's,
Starting point is 00:20:09 it's never to know, it's a time, and then it came a torment. The bula said,
Starting point is 00:20:14 yeah, let me all, let's, all, the was the matriarch,
Starting point is 00:20:17 but it's that one grita. All the little, a sobrina a girl,
Starting point is 00:20:25 a girl, no, it's not out of the water, and is that they're going to
Starting point is 00:20:28 say, why they have done it. It's normal for them that the kids
Starting point is 00:20:33 know that the young nine, four years, the kids are to know in this
Starting point is 00:20:39 type of places. But they were because they were not said, and
Starting point is 00:20:43 they're they're they're they're they're they're they're doing the
Starting point is 00:20:49 all those, all the men are in the water for the little they're going to get
Starting point is 00:20:56 the carient and they're like locus desperated, they said that not they were they were,
Starting point is 00:21:01 they were they're so. So it was all very, very extrano
Starting point is 00:21:06 because they were notar perfectly but something but something impede that
Starting point is 00:21:12 they're and it's where a tia said a little that the
Starting point is 00:21:17 abuelita is inca and like he's he said to the water
Starting point is 00:21:24 that, for favor regress to the little. Corte A says that when
Starting point is 00:21:30 they're they're more they're a little a nine of five years.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Rapid with the heart and at point of to get to the little
Starting point is 00:21:41 they're but the surprise is what the the that the thing
Starting point is 00:21:44 says that in words rapid so simple, the little count that
Starting point is 00:21:49 that's going, that the current was going and that was a real,
Starting point is 00:21:55 so he said, a ser feo, but that he was being down the water
Starting point is 00:22:01 and that this ser he put the man the man covering nose and and
Starting point is 00:22:05 the she said that the woman did he did not respirate about from
Starting point is 00:22:12 the water for seconds so this is a locura so that this this
Starting point is 00:22:16 ser he gave for seconds the capacity to be able to be able to that the nina recuperate oxygen and this
Starting point is 00:22:26 same ser was who was who put on a peter and he's gone evidently the family no, except
Starting point is 00:22:35 the abel and excepted Ivan. Ivan he asked and how was that ser? If he said
Starting point is 00:22:42 that was feo that had a appearance different but he said that he said that no had orheas.
Starting point is 00:22:47 He signolable that he said like, she he said like aleta of Pess. Ivan,
Starting point is 00:22:55 terminate his story mentioning Paco, I don't see if I'm so I'm
Starting point is 00:22:59 but today, I know to my abuela. Because she knows perfectly
Starting point is 00:23:05 what there in this city and she he he has and now I know I
Starting point is 00:23:09 know I'm respect to this this is very very at Catumaco
Starting point is 00:23:13 Varac Varacru is just a area of pesca, a zone a lot of
Starting point is 00:23:19 vacations, there's a lot of people. Much of people who are too. Aogada, obviously.
Starting point is 00:23:26 But it's surprising because this is now, I don't know why the legend. Because there
Starting point is 00:23:31 people who talk of this but cabron, you know, you know, they're so,
Starting point is 00:23:36 of those that they can't say, yeah. So, so, so,
Starting point is 00:23:39 so, so that you get to get to let's to get to the onto,
Starting point is 00:23:43 to And I said, but you know, I'm going to know, if there's something there? And you think it would have been different if no they'd have done to eat? No, I know, because I always have asked how is the moral of these
Starting point is 00:23:57 because these are the same moral than we're not. No, well, no. So, for them, for them, is different the theme of the and the mal. So, for me, and I do I try to understand
Starting point is 00:24:08 as to, like, with serenic, are, so are guardians. So, so they're compel their job. If your work is
Starting point is 00:24:15 to do people, no, no, they're going to not, they're going to say,
Starting point is 00:24:21 oh, they're not, they're doing these these sites, bosques, lagos, oceanos,
Starting point is 00:24:27 they're literally, they're doing their chamba. But if someone is rinded like this
Starting point is 00:24:34 respect, even to even to, even to, I think can't the thing, I think
Starting point is 00:24:40 can be, and like can be inclined a little to favor of one
Starting point is 00:24:43 if you demestras o'clock no it's adoration respect and the respect
Starting point is 00:24:49 to do all the so you know, so I'm you're you
Starting point is 00:24:55 were sceptic before? Yes, for supposed. And the podcast is
Starting point is 00:24:59 what you have done that that now you're an
Starting point is 00:25:03 experience familiar that everyone knows and I know
Starting point is 00:25:07 I'm because I want to because I want to know
Starting point is 00:25:10 because Like, as I hear you, know, like, are guardians, they're staying, they're in their job, have practically affirm,
Starting point is 00:25:20 your existence, crees in their existence, I mean, but I'm very interesting, how you have been able to all these
Starting point is 00:25:29 worlds, to tell that you know, I'm going to tell something. I'm going to talk about, a person
Starting point is 00:25:36 started to try ways to connectors and mediter here, And there's Tuxpec, there are
Starting point is 00:25:42 mannantials very beautiful, that are in free, the water is eladisim. So,
Starting point is 00:25:47 is elated because came in the serro, so rios manentiales. And this family
Starting point is 00:25:52 started to try to on gos, the children santos. So, so, naturales,
Starting point is 00:25:59 so, there's, there's so, they can't get, and then you get,
Starting point is 00:26:03 those coras, those you can't, you know, and you start and and he says,
Starting point is 00:26:08 and he He says that what he explains is that the water he says, and he says, and me
Starting point is 00:26:13 explain to the way, and he says, look, the water flue, but so like soniditos
Starting point is 00:26:19 because it's like, like, but when you're, but when you're in this,
Starting point is 00:26:27 I don't know has been a state at a travel of conscience that you provoked the people
Starting point is 00:26:30 and the simple soundido like uhurur and it's to try to
Starting point is 00:26:36 try to try to literally entienes the language, That's what I want to get. And he says,
Starting point is 00:26:41 Cabron, me was talking. And I go, what did you? He said, I said, I'm talking about things of
Starting point is 00:26:47 peace, me about things of love. He said, I don't know I didn't all that,
Starting point is 00:26:52 but it was like the urorororororororororo that type of sonitos it, he emitia the water.
Starting point is 00:26:59 He said, I'm I'm going to be a minute and I'm and there are things.
Starting point is 00:27:04 And the the Arboles, I'm going to say in Palazas like he said,
Starting point is 00:27:08 we're in a mother very very similar if you have seen monster ink to Zolli
Starting point is 00:27:14 the monster like a old old there's there's and he said and it's and it's
Starting point is 00:27:20 behind the dark of but we're not we I'm just that's that is a
Starting point is 00:27:26 hallucination me produced for the long until my my friend
Starting point is 00:27:29 he's he's he's he's the guardant of this region of this
Starting point is 00:27:34 zone he simply is like a jetty yes right so just so that's and I'm surprised
Starting point is 00:27:41 I'm sorry well so so are manifestations that is what I said how our
Starting point is 00:27:49 our incapacity to think to ignore to be to be to be to where
Starting point is 00:27:55 we're to be to be what you know what you're in front in our
Starting point is 00:27:59 car and how there medicine ancestrals that the use of they're depending
Starting point is 00:28:07 of each person their context they have to have a responsibility but here in Guaxaca there in San Jose the Pacific
Starting point is 00:28:14 is the Sierra of Oaxaca in where all the children's where there Maria Sabina
Starting point is 00:28:20 the chaman facilitaba are some tierras mysticas are different of cargadas
Starting point is 00:28:26 of energy and well well it's it's it's dense it's it's dense
Starting point is 00:28:32 yeah it's denser. But I also I'm another for here. All right. Yeah. Well, this
Starting point is 00:28:39 history is interesting because I feel that we know we about how the beings can't
Starting point is 00:28:49 return to the life, you know, and they can have manifestations in their spirit in this
Starting point is 00:28:56 reality that are they are living. So, but it's an image practically holographic
Starting point is 00:29:02 densified, but it's been like they're living. So this history is of a man who
Starting point is 00:29:09 is a man that's history of his old. So his abuel he told to a Louis
Starting point is 00:29:16 Enrique that he passed this situation. So, he's his papa, the papa
Starting point is 00:29:23 of the father of his-a- was- his-a- -s-a- so- usually,
Starting point is 00:29:29 usually the pes-a- those pes-a- -sac-o- -o- the mar and, so they
Starting point is 00:29:34 are to do some things, but in one of those it's a storm no?
Starting point is 00:29:40 At the mode of the mar he agar in the air-abirt a storm a time,
Starting point is 00:29:44 imagine what you do you and how you do you and how you're the tempestat
Starting point is 00:29:50 of the nature. No, of where you know, it's monstrous a man. It has
Starting point is 00:29:54 to be very intimidating to live in one of those situations, so
Starting point is 00:30:00 so it Suced that, well, the papa, no's enterned of him, pass a week, he's looking for all sides, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're their rems, they're part of his roba, but never they're all papa.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Other pescadores, in some point, also, they're not in that situation, but his corpses, if those were found. But the body of the papa, no. And usually, something that's suede much, Paco, in the phenomena of the
Starting point is 00:30:33 water, when it's all over, whatever, what that's, it is, it's a kilometer more ahead, but it's
Starting point is 00:30:41 expulsed, no? And, and that way, yeah, it's, you work, the people, when he's going to
Starting point is 00:30:48 do it, it's that's going to get, but, but, then, the time, this person that this person who has been
Starting point is 00:30:56 a, pardon, this, This abuelo, the abuelito, had a brother, no? So, it was he and the little bit. When suede that, the abuelito,
Starting point is 00:31:09 he had six years. Okay? The abuelito of Luis Enrique. So, his abelito had six years when his papa
Starting point is 00:31:16 and he with a brother of three years and with his mom. Never, they're to know of the
Starting point is 00:31:22 father. The mom, pass an 20 years. So, then the abelito had 26
Starting point is 00:31:28 years in the manito he had 23 years and the mom continued with his life obviously
Starting point is 00:31:35 he went to bring belas to the water and they're very when someone
Starting point is 00:31:41 when someone doesn't you know you know you know you know if he's or if you
Starting point is 00:31:47 have felle or what he passed much sometimes it's more gratificant to see
Starting point is 00:31:53 the person and say or I'm to be to start the
Starting point is 00:31:57 uncertainty no pass many years obviously these obviously these young
Starting point is 00:32:02 in this moment have been this is the decade of the 60 approximately
Starting point is 00:32:07 so there there was a cellular we know that the areas occur
Starting point is 00:32:12 in much stories legends yeah not is the even the capitales
Starting point is 00:32:18 also in the park of Chaputepe there there many in the
Starting point is 00:32:24 times in this case when are Pueblitos, well, the
Starting point is 00:32:28 issue is, no? And more in these decades of a us
Starting point is 00:32:30 technology, the abuelito of 26 years, in that moment, the
Starting point is 00:32:36 abuel of Louis Enrique was cooking, so his mother,
Starting point is 00:32:39 he went to visit a little a time, and it was a
Starting point is 00:32:43 time, and it was a time, and he talk, to talk, well,
Starting point is 00:32:50 who is, well, I don't know who is and all the door, the
Starting point is 00:32:54 abro the is the Sir Disapprecied. And the Sr. He was a piece of
Starting point is 00:33:02 his rope. After the 20 years, I'm going with the same
Starting point is 00:33:05 the same with the thing. You know, he gets with blood, get mojado
Starting point is 00:33:11 to the house. So, so he gets pasmado the abuel,
Starting point is 00:33:17 he got pasmado and that oh, well, you know disappeared after
Starting point is 00:33:20 20 years, who are, if you're my papa, no you, what is
Starting point is 00:33:24 what is you, and the was disoriented and he said your mom,
Starting point is 00:33:28 where's your mom? My mom no, my mom no, my mom not right, it's
Starting point is 00:33:31 with my aunt and there was with my brother. Ah, so then
Starting point is 00:33:35 entered to the house the father. Like after 20 years?
Starting point is 00:33:38 Like, without after 20 years. And here they're in the message
Starting point is 00:33:43 how it's more kind of percudied like if he had been
Starting point is 00:33:48 much and had been very had been been past 20
Starting point is 00:33:54 years. Sure. So, it was jodiedon, but not so not so. So, the, the, the, this, the, this, the,
Starting point is 00:34:01 , the, he was, being, the father, then then, so, so, he's, he's,
Starting point is 00:34:06 he, and he palpitable the heart, so, but how he says, the mom, when no,
Starting point is 00:34:11 he's never there's, what I'm to do, and the he says, prepare me a tea,
Starting point is 00:34:17 because I'm free, and give me pan for the I don't know, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought that I was going to work, he said the Papa, I thought that me going to get there.
Starting point is 00:34:27 So, it's a pass, that, well, yeah, he does a pan, the bolillo, and he does a tea, and the Papa, I went to a look at a photo, and he was, he with the mom, no, and he says, and a bellator apagada-al-a-lad, and they said, they're going to, no, well, no, here we end up, and I did for vencedo,
Starting point is 00:34:44 then then he said, but I'm going to go to go to dream, I, I'm going to dream because I'm very very can't. He's up to
Starting point is 00:34:49 get to work. The he's never a whole of the night about the
Starting point is 00:34:54 time. He's how the father and he and then he'll go to
Starting point is 00:34:59 and see there and and then and then it's a shock absolute because it
Starting point is 00:35:04 completely impossible in the things that this could get to happen and
Starting point is 00:35:11 obviously he was he was he was the shock in the system
Starting point is 00:35:15 of the day the next and the mom with the brother.
Starting point is 00:35:19 They're very very quiet the mom was in the kitchen and then he's
Starting point is 00:35:24 had got to be able to be able to be the mom gets to get to cook
Starting point is 00:35:29 and make to do the mess like a water be
Starting point is 00:35:33 a piece that was the same the same that the same
Starting point is 00:35:38 the same the piece of a piece of the can't be a carmitted
Starting point is 00:35:43 and he he's what he who's who what's what's and the he said,
Starting point is 00:35:49 oh, yeah, my papa gave a night. He said, it's, he went to the mom,
Starting point is 00:35:55 so the mom, so he put a a catcheta to the he said, and he says, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:01 is that no is a play, I'm in the court. So, then the mom,
Starting point is 00:36:03 so I'm, going, and open, and not the papa. But the covichas were mohas
Starting point is 00:36:09 and had sandre, the covichas, no? So, the mom yeah he's
Starting point is 00:36:15 back of the apartment. Yeah about the little he's
Starting point is 00:36:19 that the little that he said that he was a cataloged like the
Starting point is 00:36:25 local. Like the he he knew the him, no he he
Starting point is 00:36:28 didn't do you and also and this to me I don't see
Starting point is 00:36:32 you see a movie that the other Oh,
Starting point is 00:36:36 for suppose and he and a more if I want to
Starting point is 00:36:39 this they say they're that can be that
Starting point is 00:36:42 can but in those others, that is a movie with Nicole Kitman.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I'm really that we're going to spoil us but it's something similar in where he gets
Starting point is 00:36:55 the husband after the war. So, and it gets all distortioned and it gets all
Starting point is 00:37:01 traumatized and if is a type deprimated negative that we put in the movie,
Starting point is 00:37:07 that then this story not is so impossible. Because many times the spirit
Starting point is 00:37:12 your brothers. Hermann, if they're they're they're they're in they're in many times
Starting point is 00:37:17 that they're much of them and they're doing to get to be in your room and in his house
Starting point is 00:37:23 he could he could after 20 years him, get to to get to come
Starting point is 00:37:29 and say I can say I can't be able and say imagineate for what what he
Starting point is 00:37:36 passed that arm to get there after that time is that is that being
Starting point is 00:37:40 being I go, I know I experimented in a life pasted in a regression. I saw how I mori
Starting point is 00:37:49 awedgated. It's a desperation impression. And there's a trauma in this life with the
Starting point is 00:37:55 water? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. So, I don't know why. This,
Starting point is 00:38:02 like, I mean, I met the water and but like that in a point I start to
Starting point is 00:38:08 put a bad. So, when I submit to that, I'm, partied, but rapidissimo.
Starting point is 00:38:14 I'mtend I'm perfectly the sensation of when you need oxygen, you need to you need to breathe, and no you can't, and no can't. So, it's a deserpiration enormous, way. Horrible, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Yeah, because, of actually, there's a psychiatrist American's that makes regressions and that's still alive, that's Brian Weiss. And he, well, is a doctor, very
Starting point is 00:38:35 recognized, and he, he started to work with these techniques of hypnosis regressive, and justly a patient with him
Starting point is 00:38:44 that had many times with the patient, the induce in a regression and just those traumas
Starting point is 00:38:52 were because had fallen in a life past so many traumas of this reality
Starting point is 00:38:57 that we don't we have we don't we can't come of other existences
Starting point is 00:39:03 that we're that you do you do you do you you're you're you're
Starting point is 00:39:08 mexa or what was yeah yeah it was in some place
Starting point is 00:39:12 of here of America? I don't see, if it was Colombia, if it was not
Starting point is 00:39:19 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, but it
Starting point is 00:39:22 was a very, very disagradable. of why me got, why I'm a carpinteria,
Starting point is 00:39:29 a man, a man, a doctor, that's a daughter, and I'm saying, why,
Starting point is 00:39:34 you know, was a experience very, very, very bonita. Yes, because
Starting point is 00:39:37 to help to get to get to do to you, to your to your gusts, your traumas. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:39:43 It's too yeah, I'm going to to be to tell. You're going to tell you're going to tell you know, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:39:48 tell you know, this for me is the history more, more, more local. A bit. Because we
Starting point is 00:39:55 we're titled the Pozo No. Okay. This one us does a child,
Starting point is 00:40:01 Olivia, Luna. Much thanks, Olivia, you're making a lot of a
Starting point is 00:40:03 brother. She said, she's, that this, that's, He says, no me passed to me. He occurred to my
Starting point is 00:40:12 father. For this that I'm saying, to my papa, literally, they were, they were
Starting point is 00:40:18 they've put a lot of apodos, the old-loco, uh, of what you get, that you,
Starting point is 00:40:26 that's, yeah, to, see, all the mode, to, so, so,
Starting point is 00:40:29 so, so, so, he says, no, he says, no, he says,
Starting point is 00:40:35 he'll be, he gets, the time, But there was a occasion, he said that my Papa, well, he put so
Starting point is 00:40:40 alex, he put to talk, and he said, and I approached, because I said, I'm
Starting point is 00:40:45 said, I'm said, the history like for pedacitos, but after that he was
Starting point is 00:40:49 ebrio, he started and he he said, he said, the context of the people, the papa
Starting point is 00:40:56 worked as an engineer, not any person, as an engineer of perforations in a
Starting point is 00:41:03 platform petroler in the Gulf of Mexico. A person with preparation, he worked more 20 years there, he had experience
Starting point is 00:41:12 in all what congea this rubro professional. So, literally, you know, he said that his papa,
Starting point is 00:41:21 he had a mom when were young, that he took to be many things standing in Altamara.
Starting point is 00:41:28 I mean, it's impressive something that to me, I think, I think, to be traumatized much,
Starting point is 00:41:33 is to be in a tormenting a middle of the nothing. So, the mar
Starting point is 00:41:37 is imponent, the mar has a force a power impression. Brutal. And this man,
Starting point is 00:41:44 he had lived many times. And, and me says, and nothing of this is
Starting point is 00:41:49 compared with what he lived. And here is the story. This happens when
Starting point is 00:41:55 in some moment, my papa, to my father, he gets, this
Starting point is 00:42:01 mission to create a new posto petrolero because Suppone that there
Starting point is 00:42:05 some jacements in a area a little away, a little from the gulfe
Starting point is 00:42:11 in Mexico, but there's, my father, he said, my father, it was a little
Starting point is 00:42:20 different to the other, because the profundity there was much major than in other
Starting point is 00:42:27 in other places where they had made more more posos. And that
Starting point is 00:42:31 since that came the things were they were I'm going to be to be a little technical and I'll read because I don't know
Starting point is 00:42:36 of this. But he says, the lectures of pression were erratics. The machines were decalibrable in motive and
Starting point is 00:42:45 passable like many failures strange. So, like, all that failed. And the father,
Starting point is 00:42:50 expert in this, he had a reason of because all failed. And he said that they
Starting point is 00:42:55 called to other more people, to gologos. So, they got of all, literally,
Starting point is 00:43:00 to see, what, what occurred or so, so, so, did a
Starting point is 00:43:03 study of the zone, but they're people, well, of material, that's, no,
Starting point is 00:43:10 no, not they're not they're to be in a thing spiritual, evidently. And it's it. And they're
Starting point is 00:43:15 to do you to do it, they're going to start, then they know, I'm, I don't know, how they're,
Starting point is 00:43:21 but they're to perforate. Yes. They're they're saying, and he says that here is where there's
Starting point is 00:43:26 something something, perforing, perforando, perforando, and they they'd to doorme in this
Starting point is 00:43:33 city. So, they're there are in Altamara at a middle of
Starting point is 00:43:36 the nada, it's another on that. He's a night. The
Starting point is 00:43:41 father was in turn, was in a cell of control, and of the thing in
Starting point is 00:43:47 this scene. The night. No, there, man. No,
Starting point is 00:43:50 there. The papa went, looking his monitors, being his things
Starting point is 00:43:55 technical, and the sir, he says a little, the what the The Lord describes
Starting point is 00:44:00 like a can't. A can't of a voice feminine, suave, lehanna,
Starting point is 00:44:10 but also at the same not so that he says that he like, let's see,
Starting point is 00:44:16 the papa, the pap where he's, where you see the ocean imponent, and he says
Starting point is 00:44:28 that this can't be through the wind. There were moments where the
Starting point is 00:44:32 can't the and it's very other other times is lehous
Starting point is 00:44:34 and he's that the he's but no, no, it's
Starting point is 00:44:39 we're so we're very very so where came this so, come in
Starting point is 00:44:45 these these these questions and it says that the pap
Starting point is 00:44:47 revis the monitors, the the microphones and nothing
Starting point is 00:44:51 nothing captable that was it was very strange and
Starting point is 00:44:55 he said the day the this information, to the other engineers, to his
Starting point is 00:45:01 jeffes, let's explain this a little complicated, how you're going to say this to do a
Starting point is 00:45:07 person, and that's in other on, and say, and say, and they decided to the perforation
Starting point is 00:45:12 and descend to, well, to be, but desient first a camera, mandan a camera to be
Starting point is 00:45:19 there in the profoundities. What they found were impossible. What was what this camera
Starting point is 00:45:24 capta there about, adentro in the ocean. It says that the images mostrable, some images very borrosas,
Starting point is 00:45:33 what was like a covea natural made, at the front, at the bottom, no, who said it was, it was like
Starting point is 00:45:40 a covevevee, submarina. The incredible is that was that was able appreciate in certain parts of the
Starting point is 00:45:45 cave, the paredes, that were made as like of arraknasos or like, like,
Starting point is 00:45:51 like grietas, but in form like of arraeus, but there a moment where they they were
Starting point is 00:45:56 very difficult a type of symbology in this web says that the images
Starting point is 00:46:04 were impactants it was so it was sombroso what is that how how it's formed? Here
Starting point is 00:46:11 here here came all these questions so then he said that he's
Starting point is 00:46:14 obviously to pass the voice to to talk to to talk to for
Starting point is 00:46:20 many years never never have a little, you know, all the
Starting point is 00:46:28 work, but, well, it says that they get to the order to do you, they're going to
Starting point is 00:46:34 do you, so that they are the there's, there is there, there, petrol, there,
Starting point is 00:46:38 there's got to get to, point. Dice that they're scabando, they're doing,
Starting point is 00:46:43 looking more more, looking more and here is where the things malas
Starting point is 00:46:47 start. What he said the father of this chica is that these these
Starting point is 00:46:52 are these are very very fertes, that retombed in all the platform. They said, but what is this? It's a sism, no. The radar, nothing captable.
Starting point is 00:47:03 But they were some those blows, so they'd and in the nights were these can't, these can'ts, these can't very
Starting point is 00:47:10 strange. So, the papa, obviously, as a little kind of, decided back to, back to the
Starting point is 00:47:19 profundities with a group of engineers. How they don't, they're boceando? what I'm going to explain, what I can understand
Starting point is 00:47:25 is that they're because there's like a tunnel of an inspection, they're like by the middle of an elevator, then they're
Starting point is 00:47:31 going to be at the profundities, and standing there's down in the profundities, apart the pressure is incredibly powerful,
Starting point is 00:47:39 it's up to the eyes, they're they're like, they're like a pesadence, but here was the extrano. And it's
Starting point is 00:47:45 that's all dark, all the dark, and standing there, they started to be to be
Starting point is 00:47:53 But it's all dark, where they're where they're there's like there's like some, they're like these,
Starting point is 00:48:02 uh, they're not getting more than no, no, literal. No, no, literal. So,
Starting point is 00:48:07 then they say that they're to have like sensations strange and they're listening that can't but
Starting point is 00:48:13 it's like that's he says that the order there, we have to do it, we know
Starting point is 00:48:18 we're, they're they're going to move to and the elevator and they're saying that like,
Starting point is 00:48:24 and he's to hear that and all of, and all of all of them and they're saying, standing up
Starting point is 00:48:30 on the platform, passed something something very rare. The father of this child, a friend,
Starting point is 00:48:37 a good friend who was, he said, he said, the papa was talking, and then
Starting point is 00:48:42 informes, and of soon they're to hear to this can't, and of the night
Starting point is 00:48:48 they all that Lewis is, is, he's coming by the wall without
Starting point is 00:48:53 equipment of protection without. But he was in direction to the ocean. And he says
Starting point is 00:48:59 that they started to get to because it was a so that's so much eight
Starting point is 00:49:04 meters of the platform, or that that would be in the ocean was a
Starting point is 00:49:09 person, he said he said he said, but he said this this
Starting point is 00:49:13 this sir because he was a person great was like hypnotized
Starting point is 00:49:18 her man. He was hypnotized. He said that the bato was coming down, looking at the front, no he said, no voltia, he came to the ocean. Rapidly, all, you know, the equipment of security of the first,
Starting point is 00:49:32 and it passed something very rare. Not they found a Luis? Or so, were buss, were persons professionals. Literally, the word that occupa this chick chick, by the middle of
Starting point is 00:49:42 his father is, a Louis, he was the watered the ocean. No, no, we found. No, they don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:48 This, obviously, the Papa does the inform, a visa, and again, like, they're in the excavation, but another time, for days, and you know what? In this point, some people,
Starting point is 00:50:01 people, know, there were something more. So, not a thing natural, probably, or normal, better, said, there. There something more, and the people had to be able. For that, like, some people started to renunciar,
Starting point is 00:50:14 yeah not normal those sounds, those those songs, that a person
Starting point is 00:50:19 simply of the nothing decided to suicide because was what did,
Starting point is 00:50:22 this was very complicated. He's septico, he's septic, he said, that one
Starting point is 00:50:29 night he'll hear of his and he knowhado decide he
Starting point is 00:50:34 he's he said, I'm going to see, he he's,
Starting point is 00:50:40 camina to the elevator and he he solito, he says, I need to
Starting point is 00:50:46 see what is because this has got to have to have an explanation and here he has where he
Starting point is 00:50:52 has done one of the encounters that he he made him and he saw this man down
Starting point is 00:50:59 in the profundity and you want to hear because it is impressive what
Starting point is 00:51:03 this man he was descending and in in plain obscurity he got
Starting point is 00:51:10 the part of the entry of the Cueva. What is what be standing there? Dice, what he is, a lo lejos,
Starting point is 00:51:17 no one, nor one, nor two. Cerca. Of the 100, 100 figures humanoides, but with a cola of
Starting point is 00:51:26 pescado. 100. They were a ching. And the that's the carcansed to see.
Starting point is 00:51:33 So, only it's like, to get the illumination of the same machinaria. But they
Starting point is 00:51:38 were like from the front of him. So, like they were literally mostrantly mostrandos. They were there.
Starting point is 00:51:46 This this man he went in shock when I see that's this shock of creencers to say, I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:51:53 I'm going to or if it's bad or what's going? What is that? He said he said,
Starting point is 00:51:58 he said he's quite time looking because it were various silhouettes and they were,
Starting point is 00:52:04 so it was not his complexion. I don't the rosto no those he, no those
Starting point is 00:52:08 saw, view the view the silhouettes of his coletos to his collas of peskado he said
Starting point is 00:52:13 he said he started the need to get a need to try to understand what is he's
Starting point is 00:52:20 he's in a capsule remember you no no no no he was he he said
Starting point is 00:52:27 that the light to fallar where he starts he's all to fallar and he
Starting point is 00:52:31 he says he says he says he feels like this siluette so they're
Starting point is 00:52:36 going to after where he and And, de-pronto he thinks that something
Starting point is 00:52:41 a moment mojada, resbalosa, and like was the signal of the man,
Starting point is 00:52:47 he's a little bit more to do it. Something he could have talked because
Starting point is 00:52:52 he's in a capsule. He, in no moment I'm in contact with the water.
Starting point is 00:52:57 When he he's up to the surface, he had the camis empapada. Something
Starting point is 00:53:02 he had talked and know how it how it was. He says that when he gets, he alert to all, but here is where
Starting point is 00:53:10 all of all, what, what, what, what, what, sirenas? What? You're like, here is other cause, here are
Starting point is 00:53:18 problems. So, like, everyone, he said, but he said that this sir, does the
Starting point is 00:53:26 advice to his chiefs, to send them the evidences that have been kept out of the Cueba, like this
Starting point is 00:53:32 symbolology, and passed something very, very bizarre. To the three
Starting point is 00:53:37 days of that he did this so he's that he decided
Starting point is 00:53:41 to the post. The Poe number 13. He
Starting point is 00:53:45 said the nothing decide the order. There have
Starting point is 00:53:49 to the post 13 seal it for ever
Starting point is 00:53:52 and and certainly all those evidences taken because
Starting point is 00:53:58 was by camera video so were they were
Starting point is 00:54:03 And they disappeared for complete. Nobody, never more, will be able to talk to all this to the family, he said, is that I've seen to
Starting point is 00:54:14 get to read to him. You're being loco, you know, to be doing in the mar, blah, blah, that you get, that fumas.
Starting point is 00:54:21 The sir, evidently, decided to call it. Today, I said, I'd say, oh, and me give an interview,
Starting point is 00:54:27 me say, no, my papa, no. No, he doesn't, he doesn't, he doesn't, he doesn't, he can't even
Starting point is 00:54:31 he wants, he says this he's just he's he's he's got traumated the
Starting point is 00:54:37 he's not he has after having past more than 20 years in the
Starting point is 00:54:41 water but the encounter he took in the golf in Mexico was
Starting point is 00:54:45 brutal brutal brother wow wow is here here
Starting point is 00:54:50 there's that my case that my so you
Starting point is 00:54:55 have done you have the yeah no no
Starting point is 00:54:58 no recommended for all and for you because
Starting point is 00:55:03 in that movie we're about a civilization occulted that has technology
Starting point is 00:55:09 of high level, which is the civilization of Wakanda. The Marvel? Yes. Ah, okay.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Yeah. I know know for the context, but I've seen exactly that movie. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:18 The Wakanda Forever is different to the pantera that's the first, no? Because the second,
Starting point is 00:55:24 yeah not we're about two civilizations, both the kind of the kind of the that has
Starting point is 00:55:30 Tenoch, that you're here in the area that's how the mayas transitan to an
Starting point is 00:55:38 evolution aquatic so how they're in a civilisation very great about and how
Starting point is 00:55:45 they're they're that they're that's they're not they're notis that they're
Starting point is 00:55:53 I'm very about this and just there there's a part in middle of the mar in where
Starting point is 00:55:58 they're doing an expedition not to start petrolio, but to
Starting point is 00:56:01 not to start vibranio and appear in many people. So, obviously,
Starting point is 00:56:05 all these movies that think we think we're a science fiction, a primal no?
Starting point is 00:56:10 Sure, they've always I've always in the first of little
Starting point is 00:56:15 in many things, I've created specifically in the syrenas me are they
Starting point is 00:56:20 are very things that as you know they're a clear comprehension of how
Starting point is 00:56:26 manipulate the energy, how hypnotize with So it's a manipulation
Starting point is 00:56:32 of magic is magic exercised how can alter the energy electric for that
Starting point is 00:56:40 falles the things, they're a knowledge a literal
Starting point is 00:56:45 like as they're in Cuevas so is your knowledge and
Starting point is 00:56:48 obviously is what we have to have to be good things like
Starting point is 00:56:54 things all the construction, for example, that that if you analyze is well,
Starting point is 00:57:01 all the, all the sacred of those serras, all the cenotes that are, that really there are
Starting point is 00:57:09 spirits, guardians, the alushes, all the the reigns that are coexistiening at the
Starting point is 00:57:16 same moment in those those routes that obviously they're encabronan, they're
Starting point is 00:57:20 in that someone can get to destroy all their thing to create something
Starting point is 00:57:26 perforing petrolio or to do a train, clearly, humanly is necessary
Starting point is 00:57:31 to attract tourism, but we need to understand that the natural is a life,
Starting point is 00:57:38 is protected, is protected and venerated for seres. There are humans that say, no,
Starting point is 00:57:45 the mother natural not the mother and there's there's that they protect,
Starting point is 00:57:50 agar, and the mother and to the habitat and to their civilizations. So,
Starting point is 00:57:56 So it's clear that I think there are many civilizations occultas for that just the
Starting point is 00:58:02 human not going to try to try to those areas but wow that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:58:08 You'd think you could be conquist I? I think we don't we have
Starting point is 00:58:13 the capacity We're very We're very very very so so
Starting point is 00:58:26 and that that can be used in contra because at the final of the whole of we're in
Starting point is 00:58:32 not, and if they veneran to the light, to God, to love, to the
Starting point is 00:58:37 life, all we we're in that we're through that and we we're doing to the
Starting point is 00:58:42 time, so onrando to the same even though, but the human is so great
Starting point is 00:58:48 so stupidness and his arrogance and his suburbia, an an grand ambition for
Starting point is 00:58:53 sustain and maintain the power that a even of that
Starting point is 00:58:56 not we're the capacity to submit to those civilizations
Starting point is 00:58:59 no I do that the human to the destruction are in the intent
Starting point is 00:59:04 to do it. I think I think exactly that you mentioned. Yeah, and
Starting point is 00:59:08 all the war, for example, Vladimir Putin has a
Starting point is 00:59:13 submarine a high technology but I have the theory
Starting point is 00:59:17 in that they're in those submarines of the governments in general.
Starting point is 00:59:22 I have I have that theory because That is information that, as like your friend spoke with the
Starting point is 00:59:28 mar, I talk with the mother-tierra, with the sea, and me there's all their besties,
Starting point is 00:59:35 a those cracken, to all the balenas, that the balenas are being castes
Starting point is 00:59:40 constantly. You know, and I think are you are very speciales. And the Tierra me
Starting point is 00:59:46 says, how the governments, obviously, not it don't know they're obviously,
Starting point is 00:59:50 but that are disappearing many of their flotas. You, And that
Starting point is 00:59:55 you think that is other government but really is the government that is
Starting point is 00:59:59 the government that's the other reign. Oh, yeah, and I'm a story Adelante,
Starting point is 01:00:04 very very good that so did really and that there's evidence, that I
Starting point is 01:00:09 invite to the people to to look that this evidence. This is in a
Starting point is 01:00:13 context in where was still the war free. Has to after the second
Starting point is 01:00:19 year when finalized in 1945, never was peace or so
Starting point is 01:00:25 always the pass has been a and already the trompetas that are my premium Nobel
Starting point is 01:00:30 of the pass is a minute even in 1648 was a free a
Starting point is 01:00:35 that never was effective the the trade of the peace
Starting point is 01:00:38 of Westphalia from from the right they're being
Starting point is 01:00:42 going so the UNU gets to to make
Starting point is 01:00:47 a resolution after the bombs at Nagasaki, Hiroshima, all the destruction
Starting point is 01:00:52 that was in Japan, all the war that was, the destruction of all Europe, Occidental, well, all the roll.
Starting point is 01:00:59 So what what's the war world, is that occurred an thing that is the
Starting point is 01:01:06 war free, in where the war free, yeah not a conflict armamentist,
Starting point is 01:01:10 a conflict bellico, tal qual that you disparo and you're a disparas.
Starting point is 01:01:16 It was a world ideological of the Union Sovietica, you know, the Union Sovietica is actually Russia.
Starting point is 01:01:22 So, so it was the designological and armamentist and all this war armamentist of the Union
Starting point is 01:01:27 Sovietica and also of the imperial or the United of that that's
Starting point is 01:01:32 then. During 1998 1989, around of September finales between the
Starting point is 01:01:41 20 and the 29 so cussed that the Union Sovietica in that moment,
Starting point is 01:01:46 before to be Russia, okay, in that moment they're abistamintos in the
Starting point is 01:01:53 sky, abistamients of the lights, very strange, that the people
Starting point is 01:01:57 was going specifically in a city that's called Veroneh, or Veronish,
Starting point is 01:02:04 so, depending of the pronunciation, in actual Russia, to more or less
Starting point is 01:02:09 almost some 500 kilometers to south of Moscow, to so back.
Starting point is 01:02:15 So, in this city they're they're In this year, in 1989, in September, and in one of those, in a park, herman, they're, well, imagine it's a park, there's the park, there's the morrillo's corriending, that the pelota, the
Starting point is 01:02:30 kemados, I know what I see, there'd, the policeia, the papas, the vicinos, a park common and current in this city. after all these avistamients that about the 27 of September and the 29
Starting point is 01:02:46 of September of the 89 the 189 pass that in this park there's a sphere a sphere
Starting point is 01:02:54 of an sphere of 10 to 15 meters of diameter no gigante that's a sphere
Starting point is 01:03:00 and it gets a sphere flotando color black okay so then
Starting point is 01:03:05 then so all of imagine Imagineate, passmados, asustados. So, in that moment, the sphere is able a
Starting point is 01:03:13 compuerta, and flotando suspended in the air. Okay. So, it's able a compuerta
Starting point is 01:03:18 and they have done three Cere humanoids, okay? The around of two meters
Starting point is 01:03:25 and a three meters, with specifications of a case of a great, a head a little
Starting point is 01:03:32 like if were a per volteada, like the typical cabsons with three
Starting point is 01:03:37 eyes, one positioned in the center of the front and they were
Starting point is 01:03:42 a robot. Okay? So, there was a robot that also a
Starting point is 01:03:47 baby. So a little is a minute and this moment, and one
Starting point is 01:03:52 of these were a cilindro or a barita magica a pontoon. And the
Starting point is 01:03:57 point to the point to the person, all the people is
Starting point is 01:04:01 like because disappeared a in his car and it
Starting point is 01:04:04 and he got to do so these things they're the
Starting point is 01:04:07 control of the robot that they're so they're simply
Starting point is 01:04:13 did the apparition in front to they get
Starting point is 01:04:16 to a door and they they they they
Starting point is 01:04:20 they they there had radioactivity there various quars
Starting point is 01:04:27 fund like all kind of two meters of
Starting point is 01:04:31 diameter, or even even more great than this. What's going to say,
Starting point is 01:04:37 there's this that has been to be with the war, but just the
Starting point is 01:04:41 agency state Sovietica and and it and this is a news
Starting point is 01:04:47 world so this is real but obviously the people like yeah
Starting point is 01:04:51 came to the country because the mur of Berlin collapse
Starting point is 01:04:56 a year in November. in November so two years
Starting point is 01:05:02 after in 1999 is the collapse of the Union Sovietic so much said,
Starting point is 01:05:06 no, it was a propaganda to distract them and because the situation had to
Starting point is 01:05:11 all in that way and not applied the norms of X, not the regulations
Starting point is 01:05:16 that were the perestroika and all that role. The point is that is that
Starting point is 01:05:21 is that in that decade all this, but the important not was in this.
Starting point is 01:05:27 So, the what interesting is that those those days or that same
Starting point is 01:05:33 day in Spain in Spain and it's there where is there where is there
Starting point is 01:05:41 is the case known as the case Conil or Conil or Conil Conil so
Starting point is 01:05:46 Conil is a place in the province of Cadis okay in a
Starting point is 01:05:52 zone Autonomous that's called Andalus in Spain it's
Starting point is 01:05:56 a zone costter is there there There's a people, there's
Starting point is 01:06:01 a city, people, there's a lot of normal, no? Resulta that in
Starting point is 01:06:05 those times, in that city, they were seeing many in the
Starting point is 01:06:11 sky. So, five young said, oh, what, what's
Starting point is 01:06:15 what's that's much, but not they're so, they're so I
Starting point is 01:06:19 think they're making that they're going to have to be 20 and 30 years
Starting point is 01:06:24 around and they were more they're so they, So, they resulta
Starting point is 01:06:29 that they're in accord for an 29 of September, the 89, go to the coast,
Starting point is 01:06:35 to go to the mar, to see what what they're going to those avistamients.
Starting point is 01:06:39 So, in these avistamient resulta that they were there satiditos, cotorreando,
Starting point is 01:06:46 platicando, see if it's like something, if no appears nothing, and in
Starting point is 01:06:49 that gets to the long, not they're not if it was going to the water. No, they were a ball like if it was a roja,
Starting point is 01:07:02 a loo'lejo, no? So, that ball commenced, to some way, to acercercer to them. So they're when they're going to
Starting point is 01:07:12 because they're saying, because they're that's circling to us. So that ball, resulta that
Starting point is 01:07:19 can be a color, and it can be a color a color a sullado black. So when that ball Yeah, the
Starting point is 01:07:30 children say that they're like two Ceres, no, they're not back from the ball, but
Starting point is 01:07:36 are all in the water. Two Ceres Caminando, grandes between two meters and a three.
Starting point is 01:07:43 The same specifications that are in Russia suceden in Spain, no? And the
Starting point is 01:07:49 most, the same days and all. So these Ceres, resulta that they
Starting point is 01:07:55 start that they're like they're not even they're not they're not they're in their roo
Starting point is 01:08:02 and the ball for there. So, so you get a cost and the
Starting point is 01:08:08 muchachos see their the same specification, a per a cabes is a
Starting point is 01:08:14 per ballteada. So are different, and be you how these were like
Starting point is 01:08:20 these things were like with the ball that was in the mar. Like they were saying something,
Starting point is 01:08:25 no, and they were they're doing to express and they're doings to the ball. So what
Starting point is 01:08:31 is very curious is that these five people are in in the trough of
Starting point is 01:08:36 some dunas to be much more direct that's going to but
Starting point is 01:08:40 they're so so in this moment they're to look the to be
Starting point is 01:08:46 to be a duna. So, they're they're they're they
Starting point is 01:08:50 there. So, they'll and these young feel how the temperature
Starting point is 01:08:56 of the temperature of the time atmospheric, it's so it's the little the
Starting point is 01:09:01 young Isabel that she starts a feeling like much fear to feel
Starting point is 01:09:08 that you paralyza like not they can't move and in those
Starting point is 01:09:13 the things they were more little and changed all
Starting point is 01:09:17 their their their different, and they're two human
Starting point is 01:09:19 So they did of the nana two men, men's men's human,
Starting point is 01:09:22 um, of one 80, a meter 90, and they were coming for
Starting point is 01:09:27 all the coast, like if they were people, and as those, these
Starting point is 01:09:33 people, just the people, after that metamorphosis and that situation
Starting point is 01:09:38 that's transformed they're they're they're going to their house,
Starting point is 01:09:43 obviously in shock, they're to make a person, man, to the guard
Starting point is 01:09:48 coastera to know what's going, they're going to the news that are in Russia. And these
Starting point is 01:09:54 people, for the trauma and all the acos mediatic, no, because there was much
Starting point is 01:10:00 because also happened in Russia something, they're saying, no we're to have
Starting point is 01:10:03 interviews, they're very very, very, very, but they did an
Starting point is 01:10:10 interview to the author J.J. Benitez. So, so J.J. Benintes was directly
Starting point is 01:10:16 to interview them, and to him And he gave many of these characteristics, testimonials,
Starting point is 01:10:22 yeah they said more ahead, what happened, and all coincide perfectly with
Starting point is 01:10:28 everything. So, the fear, the fear, the fear, the and it
Starting point is 01:10:33 was, that if did, it's a and that quadra perfectly with the
Starting point is 01:10:39 avistamient that were very sorpressives of Russia, but that there's a relation.
Starting point is 01:10:46 So, is when there theories that say, okay, if this were a fact,
Starting point is 01:10:51 that are these are infiltrated, are things that are people who are they're they're
Starting point is 01:10:58 they're in us, they're they're or are part of a manipulation effective
Starting point is 01:11:04 that was in the development that had the Union Sovietica because the Union
Starting point is 01:11:10 Sovietica also investigated, I'm different psychics, intellectuals, Nina
Starting point is 01:11:15 Kulagina, for I'd have telekinesis, the capacity of moving the things with your mind. So, so they'd have a tremendous study of all this, and could have succeeded that if were a manipulation,
Starting point is 01:11:31 because if it was the fall of the Union Sovietica, and it was Russia, now, like a country, and like a republic. No, we know. This is a record,
Starting point is 01:11:42 is a story with testimonials real, in locations real, 100. and, there's that the people investee.
Starting point is 01:11:50 What do you? No, no. Look, it's fascinating this part where the person that
Starting point is 01:11:55 the person that I live very similar to the story that I wanted, that I don't want to
Starting point is 01:12:00 ask them, I'm going to say what I said in their moment and yeah no me
Starting point is 01:12:04 interested nothing. It's surprising it, because very honestly,
Starting point is 01:12:09 I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm the correlation
Starting point is 01:12:15 that exist in between Ceres with those that's supposed that
Starting point is 01:12:18 we're we're spirituales and then materials, Ceres ferricos, Ceres
Starting point is 01:12:24 of the naturalness and it's interesting because this question many I've
Starting point is 01:12:29 done, but what relation has the demonios with the supposed no humanos
Starting point is 01:12:37 omnis extraterrestres that also can have been in the ocean
Starting point is 01:12:41 and I was I'm analyzing the case of Alister
Starting point is 01:12:45 Crowley a person that was nominated of many many ways, like The Beastia
Starting point is 01:12:53 6666, a person who did much experimentation and psych experimentation for he literally
Starting point is 01:13:03 in words rapids experimented all the ways to back in the
Starting point is 01:13:09 vibrational and in these many times here not I can't say but
Starting point is 01:13:14 there was there were much derramment of this liquid vital in
Starting point is 01:13:18 in the little is the little that's the he's so he's he's
Starting point is 01:13:22 he's he's he's he's he's literally all the profan to do
Starting point is 01:13:28 to the the level the level vibrational and standing here I was
Starting point is 01:13:34 a moment of meditation to be with he connected he he had
Starting point is 01:13:37 invocations occupable a lot of symbolism etc he
Starting point is 01:13:42 he wanted what is what is the most pesado when you get to the maldat
Starting point is 01:13:45 pure. And here is where is where a person that he contacta,
Starting point is 01:13:51 that's a characteristic is very, very familiar to what we know. It's a
Starting point is 01:13:58 real, I don't remember if it's little or is great, but the
Starting point is 01:14:01 characteristic that this subject, is that this being the person with the
Starting point is 01:14:06 contact has the head very literally, like you you do it
Starting point is 01:14:11 like it's like a pera, al-reve. Very very to what the
Starting point is 01:14:16 people commonly know that's a great. So, you know, he's a name.
Starting point is 01:14:23 I don't know. I'm listening what I remember to a great rasgos, but it's the contact
Starting point is 01:14:28 that he has the there's a lot of contactados that they're saying, so,
Starting point is 01:14:33 I have contacto, but with what? So, so, they're, so,
Starting point is 01:14:37 so, but, uh, what is the correlation that there an alien and a
Starting point is 01:14:40 demonio? They're the same capacities and the same qualities. Posser a person. There is the pilot Pacheco Perez that was possegid
Starting point is 01:14:49 and he spoke to one of these people, manipulation of the entourno, manipulation mental, possession, all what a
Starting point is 01:14:57 demonio can do do they do these and they're in a manner very similar. They're I feel like
Starting point is 01:15:05 with the intelligence human with the null the human because always have been used to get
Starting point is 01:15:10 to a manner, for example, if that's demon, the people don't know it, but if you see naves, ah, that's, I mean, oh, so, that's, I mean, it's the form in how they've manifested, since they've gone, since when they were angels, cailed. They're going to get impressed with them, because
Starting point is 01:15:25 they're, ah, oh, so, technology. Oh, now, now, it's technology. But, anteriorly, it was how to use an arm. Antirement was, it was how to maquillars, anteriorly, it was this. Right, obviously, yeah no works with the same.
Starting point is 01:15:37 So, the regla is the same, but yeah, not the same elements. Orita yeah that's more ambition to do more power.
Starting point is 01:15:43 You know, you can't occupy this in technology, you can't occupy this in this aspect armamentistic
Starting point is 01:15:49 justly. So the formula that they're using times biblical is the same than the
Starting point is 01:15:57 actual. Because the people don't think they're in demons but if they're in Omnis.
Starting point is 01:16:00 And it's the same. For me is the same. For me, it's the they're much
Starting point is 01:16:07 to see, It's a question very complicated because it's a thing that
Starting point is 01:16:13 these deities sarcontical of all these very antivos of the universes
Starting point is 01:16:19 that not have the right in this universe but that they
Starting point is 01:16:23 are through technology and to get to this reality to
Starting point is 01:16:28 this universe so so I think I think that entities that
Starting point is 01:16:33 have a advantage in theory because are very
Starting point is 01:16:37 antigues and because no have a rastro of bonded and empathy. So, they're like the only
Starting point is 01:16:44 that are so they're in the power, then they're not having a charge of conscience in
Starting point is 01:16:49 what they're doing. But if it's very, it's interesting to understand that there
Starting point is 01:16:55 many hos that here from other realities are being being conducted by entities
Starting point is 01:17:01 that are not they're of this world and how those we are of this
Starting point is 01:17:05 world and we we're of this reality, we've ced all our
Starting point is 01:17:09 power and we've permitted that this should be because I think there are
Starting point is 01:17:14 other entities that have a high level technological and that
Starting point is 01:17:18 not necessarily are related with the demons but at the final
Starting point is 01:17:23 I think these entities demoniacas have been masters and
Starting point is 01:17:28 those universes and us and us have seen like
Starting point is 01:17:31 the bivora and are that are that are hypnotis
Starting point is 01:17:36 notizant, that they arerastran, they're changing of figures, forms, and all what you want to be able to adaptate, us have demonstrated
Starting point is 01:17:46 that they can conquistar many, like that's above, as far as as far? Like, as as far?
Starting point is 01:17:53 So, as how here is, the same have done in the world, and so, you can get to be very important that the
Starting point is 01:18:03 reflectione the people. because they have to have to be to have been to have to because if
Starting point is 01:18:12 there are entities and things. And if here we we'll do you, something, something,
Starting point is 01:18:17 you know, that's that I'm in general for all the people. Satanas, as we
Starting point is 01:18:23 know we know, and all his subdits and all their are just trying
Starting point is 01:18:29 to not per to not pervert all this grand prison. So it's when
Starting point is 01:18:37 it's when it's when the BluBim, it's when the Illuminati that you mentioned at the initial, how I've been present in rituals that they're doing
Starting point is 01:18:45 astralment because they don't have the protections that they're being disproteged in many those aspects and they're not
Starting point is 01:18:53 they're and they're that satanaz or this entity demoniac is super powerful and the reality
Starting point is 01:19:01 is that is a servant and is a perrita of our grand God of the love. Precisely. So,
Starting point is 01:19:09 you know, you know, the best way. Oh, you know, passing your theme,
Starting point is 01:19:14 I'm going, I'm going to give us a bit of the vibration. Sure. You want this
Starting point is 01:19:19 last story. It is very short, but it makes very interesting because
Starting point is 01:19:23 it's repit again this phenomenon and this rapidly and this, I'm do a person
Starting point is 01:19:30 to make a person of a personal Sinaloa. No, me his name, but thank you, you know, you know, you know, this
Starting point is 01:19:35 he passed to his abuel. So, well, in this part of the Massachusetts, in the peska,
Starting point is 01:19:43 all the related to this environment, and well, his, his, his abelor, he was a
Starting point is 01:19:51 three of the morning, brother, to go to get to get a peskara. Imagineate that incredible.
Starting point is 01:19:57 Ganarle to the sun, no, this Ditcho so famous that's I don't know if in other places,
Starting point is 01:20:02 we're going to get to get the sun. I don't know. I don't know. No, because I'm nocturno. Oh, well,
Starting point is 01:20:08 so. Yeah, I'm so. Yeah, I'm very no. So, a sometimes I do when I need to something.
Starting point is 01:20:14 But, but this sir, if he was at the three of the morning, he had a
Starting point is 01:20:19 coffee-cice of the oya, agarrava his arrable and one's to the water to pesk to get
Starting point is 01:20:26 and it's when the when the sun was out when three, six of the morning, seven, something, and that there were moments
Starting point is 01:20:33 good, moments bad, moments bad, when they'd be good, because they'd be in that same that day
Starting point is 01:20:41 of peska, all that all that was they were in the market, and then, obviously, there was economy,
Starting point is 01:20:46 no? And like all those places, there are legends. The peskators have some legions
Starting point is 01:20:51 impressionants, and not precisely with serenes like tritones or sirenas, That, for sure, I consider that exist, and I've said other
Starting point is 01:20:59 times, of water and water salada. Because I have a testimony of a person that was in a river, in the river, in the river, of this city.
Starting point is 01:21:09 It's impressive. So, there are many legends, and this person says, the fact of our environment, but, you know, like you said,
Starting point is 01:21:21 no, I don't think. The same than the first story. And the The abuelo lives an
Starting point is 01:21:25 experience also very very that he's he's to get a
Starting point is 01:21:30 he's to be a pesk and it's that I'm for si he's a great
Starting point is 01:21:34 of the people that they say I still still I'm and
Starting point is 01:21:40 if you say you're no no no I don't know I'm I don't know those people
Starting point is 01:21:45 that people who don't they're they're able for they myself no neceo
Starting point is 01:21:49 terco I can't I'm I can't I'm the I'm going to do He said that
Starting point is 01:21:54 He said He said He said He went He said He had Had been He said
Starting point is 01:22:00 He went to He went to He said He said He said he He said He said he He went
Starting point is 01:22:05 At the 5 of the morning He was He was He got in his boat He gave
Starting point is 01:22:11 his and his stuff And this testimony the of this sir
Starting point is 01:22:14 He said He said He's He in Alta Mar standing
Starting point is 01:22:18 there He said He says normally when he He goes his
Starting point is 01:22:22 Canya Yeah, no he's reds like when when he's other people. There's a
Starting point is 01:22:27 can't, and literally that's it's to be able to and say that the man's
Starting point is 01:22:31 there's all there was too, so the sky was just the sky was just
Starting point is 01:22:38 it was to be to make that he had to be to be the
Starting point is 01:22:43 little in his boat and and then after a moment the
Starting point is 01:22:47 the abel the And, of the point, he says that the carna and the
Starting point is 01:22:57 thing is the thing is the old old he's like the and he's something that's a little
Starting point is 01:23:02 thing, so the the abuel was battling with this and he said that he thought,
Starting point is 01:23:07 he said, he said, he was a little bit, but it was a good. The abel was a battalion
Starting point is 01:23:14 and he was being, and the first radios were getting and said he said he was
Starting point is 01:23:19 that he's he was that, because no he'd And when he thought that
Starting point is 01:23:24 he thought that he he was getting to and he says that when the abel he says he
Starting point is 01:23:29 has made and he says that he says that he's a question that what he is
Starting point is 01:23:35 a brazo a a brother human or at that he's because
Starting point is 01:23:41 it's all the part human of the armro to the endos
Starting point is 01:23:44 except that the arm was of a color grisaceio and And he says that
Starting point is 01:23:52 under the hands, is all this part of the little this part of the like this
Starting point is 01:23:58 part like if were an uncle's of rana, this part aquatic that is
Starting point is 01:24:05 this telet that one of the one of the and he says he when he's
Starting point is 01:24:11 like he he's kind of and see that this man not was like a
Starting point is 01:24:15 little was the he was he was he was he was he was
Starting point is 01:24:20 he how this man sierra the puny and then it's a baller to make
Starting point is 01:24:23 a force and the caria the old is the old he's he's
Starting point is 01:24:28 he's he's to get to get to the can't like that what the demonious
Starting point is 01:24:34 is that yeah I'm amecing and I see that he said
Starting point is 01:24:39 what what he does do you do that he does the water
Starting point is 01:24:43 and get the door of the and he and he says the bot
Starting point is 01:24:48 then he starts and he he only be the cany like floating in the water and he says that
Starting point is 01:24:55 this ser he's a he's a very distinct to the first a first this being completely
Starting point is 01:25:04 gris gris that had the cooel very large he says that he
Starting point is 01:25:09 he makes he he's he's a but not he can be in the
Starting point is 01:25:14 somro so he be like a he's like a those eyes
Starting point is 01:25:17 negros so like very very, like if no, like if it were a vacill.
Starting point is 01:25:24 And he's that the abuel, the only that's like it's person to turn to
Starting point is 01:25:29 the eyes and go to and go to because the abelor was very religious. He said
Starting point is 01:25:34 that he went to his house palid. Pallido. He said he's he said,
Starting point is 01:25:39 how he went to go? There was he went to get to get to get to the
Starting point is 01:25:43 cellon. No he didn't no he didn't he he gave fever or
Starting point is 01:25:48 calentura like They said, I don't know how they were in other parts, he had a fever, his temperature corporal was very high, he was still, he was there,
Starting point is 01:25:56 and when the people, the family, he said, but what happened, Abuel, why don't know? The abuel the abuel
Starting point is 01:26:02 he's, well, obviously here, is, in serious, Abel? He says, yeah, he said,
Starting point is 01:26:09 so, he said, he, so, he said, is something is something more important, what he's
Starting point is 01:26:14 to try the water, the water, he's they're, they're, they find in the cana
Starting point is 01:26:22 there in the coast, in the orrilla. The abuel go to the water and says that's around the
Starting point is 01:26:27 water's and he's about, but his can't say that's completely destroced
Starting point is 01:26:32 or so was like in pedasos but there something there was a point, in the
Starting point is 01:26:37 point where they're where they say that there was there was a there's
Starting point is 01:26:42 there kind of like a kind of a human as kind also kind of of res, but
Starting point is 01:26:50 even had this palide was a bit of a little, he was a torado there. That's infere that the really, he really, he got to lastimar.
Starting point is 01:27:01 Yes, for that's all the vented to the cane destrosed. Sure. So, then the abelow
Starting point is 01:27:07 said all this, the pescators enter, the pescadores, the people, those who did like the little, was the
Starting point is 01:27:13 family. But he said this chico, no, the pescators, so the actually, all day of today today, in this zone, of this city, the people, no, pesca there. No,
Starting point is 01:27:23 they know, they pescan, they're in other zones. There, nobody's in met. And it's like a mode automatic. Oh, yeah, no, we're going to, here's where. And so, and this is a lot of, I mean, it's impressive. Wow. This is the Masatland. Yeah, is that if are, is that are you. So, there are much life in that water. So, yeah, if, if, I think
Starting point is 01:27:46 that there's that I'm not quite it's a incredible manno they're really
Starting point is 01:27:50 some things and then they're situations that the people and even
Starting point is 01:27:56 this abel like this abel like the father like he's on platform
Starting point is 01:28:00 are people they're not a person who they're not so they're
Starting point is 01:28:05 they're they're to say what they what they're that that no that no
Starting point is 01:28:08 so that's that I get the that's that I'm my
Starting point is 01:28:13 My abuelito, was like very medium. My Tio, abuelo, my brother of my abelita, and he saw many of his ultimate things that view paranormal, was when he was when he was a bigotting his house, there in
Starting point is 01:28:31 Pallem, in Waimah, Sonora. So, it was tabingunding his house, and in that moment, all what they did are, is to start to move to the techo, no, in all the region. So, they're in the techo, because all is a low inunded. It's a risk,
Starting point is 01:28:45 cable is all. So, when they were up to my t-o-awelowel to the techo, he saw a one bigita sentada in the house. So, he grittable because nobody is up
Starting point is 01:28:56 to the bigita. And the bigita was yeah with the water at the and her sat with pass and he said, well,
Starting point is 01:29:03 then there's up, and nobody the see, and he did, then he did, then they were so they were no, there
Starting point is 01:29:10 no one A bigita, Bajo, for nothing, and yeah, a few my t-a-wuel
Starting point is 01:29:14 falleceo, yeah, for great. But if existen many of these, I think in
Starting point is 01:29:19 all the community that are listening, and to have many anecdotas that have
Starting point is 01:29:24 to be with all this, because, even are reales, it's impossible
Starting point is 01:29:30 to negate that the water occulta something. Yeah, justly is another
Starting point is 01:29:37 world completely, and are that, at the final of count, is going to think to the people, it's impressive. It's impressive.
Starting point is 01:29:44 The actual, I have other history that I feel that more than visitments, more than manifestations, physical, as well, is, also, to understand that there temples in the
Starting point is 01:29:56 water, and that the water also has the right of darts as a being a being, you can't do or you can
Starting point is 01:30:05 take, or can create, or can destroy. And we have seen, even biblically, the grand dilubio, for example,
Starting point is 01:30:13 destroy all a creation to purification the impuresa of this world. So, in this
Starting point is 01:30:21 relato that I've done, you know, he's to write someone that's called Gilberto, that now
Starting point is 01:30:28 has around of 70 years, that is of Spain, in a town of San Emiliano,
Starting point is 01:30:34 there was a rio there in that people. And there many relato that
Starting point is 01:30:39 are around of that but here me write this
Starting point is 01:30:41 situation when he was a little he said
Starting point is 01:30:47 that the rio had many many things and
Starting point is 01:30:53 that the area in specific there were many people
Starting point is 01:30:58 that they said that they were that you
Starting point is 01:31:01 would but that as as like as to
Starting point is 01:31:06 get a something to you, automatically. Then, at the final of the one asks
Starting point is 01:31:14 these legends, this person called Gilberto said, ah, well, the abelita said,
Starting point is 01:31:18 I don't think you, you know, as always we're all a loco. So in one of
Starting point is 01:31:24 that's, the papa is a gravely and is a problem, the papa
Starting point is 01:31:28 of the he never to do, and he had to the mind what the was the
Starting point is 01:31:33 the mother he said, no? So, in one of those go, abienta
Starting point is 01:31:40 a money and he says to the rio sana to my papa. I want to my papa live.
Starting point is 01:31:45 Help me with that night. And the father the day next was a
Starting point is 01:31:50 day and was much better. He could respirate. His infection in
Starting point is 01:31:56 the pulmones had disminued notoriously in a only day,
Starting point is 01:32:00 something that could appear impossible. The problem is when in the night
Starting point is 01:32:04 a recino enter to the house of the abuela and the abuela
Starting point is 01:32:09 and the mother was like she had been vomitated much and like if not had
Starting point is 01:32:16 had been in his old the Gilbert did the know the
Starting point is 01:32:21 not obviously Hilberto hear that he says no manches or
Starting point is 01:32:26 so it result that was that was what my abel me said and I
Starting point is 01:32:31 gave a desire to a father and pass this The abuela. Then he says,
Starting point is 01:32:36 you know I'm want to get to this place. I don't want to be
Starting point is 01:32:40 here. So, there is the Hilberto to venting another money to the rio.
Starting point is 01:32:45 And he says, sacam to take me a job in other place. I don't
Starting point is 01:32:50 want to this people, nor know, to be a constructorah that's he was
Starting point is 01:32:57 contracting to different obreroes and each other contract to Hilberto.
Starting point is 01:33:01 Hilberto is with this constructora to So, so in one of those constructions, he'd a brother, no? So, obviously,
Starting point is 01:33:11 well, there's like, that favor, that interchamble. He, with his brazo, then he's a car, has his wife, has his children, pass the years, and he had a much
Starting point is 01:33:22 with the rio, because, obviously, he has a call, all that, more if you, you just,
Starting point is 01:33:29 you just, he'd, you'd, then he has a called The Rio, and he said that I'd like
Starting point is 01:33:36 with the river, but with all the monedas in the profundities, like if were an
Starting point is 01:33:41 eyes, no? Then he was never was that sensation, because for that he
Starting point is 01:33:47 never wanted to he said, and in one of that's, you say, your mom
Starting point is 01:33:50 is very unferma, now your mom, you need to get to then. Then,
Starting point is 01:33:55 then he he, he goes, oh, my mom, we're, to his kids,
Starting point is 01:34:00 to his, his children, come, to the people, he's with his family,
Starting point is 01:34:06 all, they're in the house and the mother and the mother's he's not
Starting point is 01:34:11 that he will be able to tolerate that night but he wanted to his nieters
Starting point is 01:34:15 and then yeah all the family and they they're and they they're
Starting point is 01:34:20 he never thought in going to he said he said he said that my mom
Starting point is 01:34:25 so yeah that my mom to be to get a something a little more another then
Starting point is 01:34:33 in the madrugada, like at two, three of the morning, too,
Starting point is 01:34:37 he gets a little overrachal the door like a and he a question to get a
Starting point is 01:34:45 person, and he says, who knows, who does, who, and then the day and the
Starting point is 01:34:49 day of the day he said he, my brother, my brother, he,
Starting point is 01:34:55 have, he, has been like the hours, and he's kept, being
Starting point is 01:35:01 all, the mom, she sent very good, all the time, and
Starting point is 01:35:06 it's all that they're eating they're doing a because it's what he's
Starting point is 01:35:12 what he's that they're that the son of that the little he's to go
Starting point is 01:35:17 with the little and the he's a little about about of six
Starting point is 01:35:23 years to get to a hogar with the and he
Starting point is 01:35:27 the then the then then is when Gilbert is
Starting point is 01:35:31 He goes loco, you know, in energum, in ver a exfixied, in ver that the mom
Starting point is 01:35:36 is a good, and in see the he's in the madrugated. He's got to a trancasos,
Starting point is 01:35:43 you know, he's, they're going like, he's, you get asked in the madrugated,
Starting point is 01:35:48 you're to get a favor, no? And he said the brother, well, but I
Starting point is 01:35:53 did the same that you did the did the mother and he gave to my father.
Starting point is 01:35:58 I did what I did the same, no he was going to do you but at final of
Starting point is 01:36:03 your mom is your mom is a bit of you know, then they're rompired he, he now
Starting point is 01:36:10 said, in my life I'm going to go back to that that's and then
Starting point is 01:36:16 they're back on a little to their place where they're sitting I'm
Starting point is 01:36:22 I think that that was the water the water there had, there was that's
Starting point is 01:36:27 other thing that's another thing Yes, sure, something was invoked there.
Starting point is 01:36:31 Something that it's very complicated that you guys that's the no, so something because
Starting point is 01:36:38 we're going to like in the ancient Egypt, in times biblical, all these these rituals
Starting point is 01:36:43 were in there are there are there. There are there people, if the
Starting point is 01:36:49 people know, or if they were they were Pahey, how many people
Starting point is 01:36:54 have been in the water, in the ocean from of time Biblical,
Starting point is 01:36:58 no, man, you know, that's infinity, millions of people there. So,
Starting point is 01:37:03 imagineate that the people go, make a ritual, and invoke in these waters,
Starting point is 01:37:10 who know what can bring or desperat, man? That for me, not really
Starting point is 01:37:16 nothing good? No. It was an entity demoniac. Definitely. Something, something,
Starting point is 01:37:21 like, like you did you say, it's a little, brother. What form
Starting point is 01:37:25 to terminate this episode? How you know? Very well. I'm very content,
Starting point is 01:37:29 very happy. I'm very happy. I'm sorry. Look, this, this theme me
Starting point is 01:37:34 really. I like much. It's interesting. No, I'm to surprise me because
Starting point is 01:37:41 the movies of Disney, what we know, the fictions. Evidentiment there's a reason.
Starting point is 01:37:47 I mean, a primate negative of 100. The people think that all these things
Starting point is 01:37:52 that all it's all occur and they're and they're a story for children. But really are the testimonials
Starting point is 01:37:58 and not one. No, it's one. So, no, so, no, are millions, hundreds of millions of anecdotes,
Starting point is 01:38:03 of peskators, platformeros, situations salvavid, cruceros, no, no, so are many
Starting point is 01:38:10 things so much things so many things that are so fugaces that, that, that,
Starting point is 01:38:15 that we're, that we're not we're not we're not we're allos on our planet, coexistimus
Starting point is 01:38:21 with the senses that we don't understand we know we're not we're not even't we're in
Starting point is 01:38:27 their level but a sometimes us make think that we're superiors when they're
Starting point is 01:38:32 they're completely not only the knowledge but the control of that's that I'm impression.
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Starting point is 01:39:08 of belas with cera of abeha that is a tradition that for me me I feel
Starting point is 01:39:14 very honrado to work with my hermenas, I see as a bea a womanas and we
Starting point is 01:39:18 we're in many people and I'm very contented to have been to have been to this place and
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Starting point is 01:40:44 spejo, the people gildo, they're eating, the orens, all that rollo.
Starting point is 01:40:51 The Papa is the the, the, the, the most has a world
Starting point is 01:40:55 is a great monty. Yeah, of the state of the death of the
Starting point is 01:40:59 death and I'm put to muttriars. You know, and then I'm put in
Starting point is 01:41:03 frasks with my shrivent and my my p. All that is satanass, tentating to the most pundi-hous and debiless, to damage to those that we're serving to the purpose. I, in the ceremonies, my
Starting point is 01:41:23 my mother, me does her sacks, a menstruation, and I, during the ceremonies, me embarrrored of all that sacher. You me did you, never had sonned how you'd limpied larvas, energetics, whey. That's real. I don't know.

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