EXTRA ANORMAL - Sobreviví a un Encuentro con el Diablo | Historias Macabras de Encuentro con el DIABLO

Episode Date: December 2, 2025

“Dicen que los pactos con el diablo siempre tienen un precio. Pero este hombre decidió no pagarlo… y fue lo último que decidió.”En este episodio de Extra Anormal Podcast te traemos algunos de los relatos más oscuros y peligrosos que hemos recibido… historias donde la frontera entre el mundo humano y el mundo demoníaco se rompe por completo.Prepárate para escuchar casos reales que involucran posesiones, pactos prohibidos, poltergeist violentos y brujería tan precisa que puede destruir familias enteras.👁️‍🗨️ Un joven rebelde vuelve a casa “casado” sin explicación, pero la mujer lo controla con brujería y busca desaparecer a su propia suegra usando un simple dibujo.🔥 Octavio nos revela uno de los casos más fuertes que atendió: una joven poseída con una fuerza brutal, imposible para un ser humano.👿 Un abuelo pacta con un demonio para entregar a su nieta, pues la entidad quería desposarla.💥 Una casa dominada por un poltergeist se convierte en un campo de batalla mientras Octavio intenta liberar a la familia.😨 Y un anciano pacta con el diablo para ganar dinero y terrenos, pero cuando intenta engañarlo… paga el precio máximo.Estas son historias reales, crudas y demasiado peligrosas como para escucharlas solo en la noche.Si te gustan los relatos de posesiones, pactos demoníacos y actividades paranormales extremas… este episodio es para ti.

Oh, and the devil. They say that's not always she appears with quernos and cola. A-bezzles, a bit of a sonrisa, an offerte impossible to rechazzar, or a voice that you a susurra just when when you're more you need. There are who are seen

on a carreterer solitaire, in a can'tina, or front a spejo or a medianoche. This night, you'll you'll hear stories real of who they're cruised with him and they've learned something very important.

The Inferno, at least, it's a time, before to die. Bien-beenious. What I'm going to be able to be able to be a What's a lot, family,

to a new chapter more of podcast extra-normal. Spaco, Arias, and I'm happy to be newly in a chapter for all of you. Family, today is an

episode star. We have a great invite to talk to a time that many times we've

talked in this podcast. Enquentros of persons mortals with a person that for many,

the most dangerous that exists, the more maligno, the more oscuro, the demonio,

the Diablo, the Chamuco, as they say, because it has many names, but many people assure to have been seen face to face. This night, we're

to tell stories of people who saw that they've seen and even more that they've been this process, even they put their life in

risk to to be able a job of a job of liberation. For this night, we accompany a

person very special, that is the second that's with us with us and we're we're really we're

very honed to have to here in our studios. Our dear friend, Octavio Elisondo,

how is your brother? Paco, much thanks. Very content to be here with all

your public. Muchisimas and a thing a very a thing that in occasions

not be about much but that I think that will be of much interest for

your public. Thank really for the invitation. Thank you, my dear Octavio, for

dar us this opportunity to us. Family, before to start, you know, you know,

that's always, the annuncies first. First, if it's the first first time,

second, third time that you see this podcast, something, something you got

to get to get a to be a member official of this community to this

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get to you know and if you're on the podcast on Spotify there

also also you can see and also that Octavio

has reserved a story ined that is prohibited

a story that not can't be heard for

all for the obscurity for the dangerous even even even

could get to get to you passes to our site web

www. www. p. Podcast straad normal. com. m. For there,

you're I'd expect. Octavio, before to start with this podcast,

I know that much people, it's evident, you know, you a great,

great trajectory. I'd say, I'd say, I was more young,

in television, always, always, very fan of your job, but for if there

a person that you are a first, you can't is to say, who are you, to what you do you,

your social, projects? Yes, many thanks, Paco. Well, my name is Octavio Lysondo. I've got many years in the media,

making my work. My job is of harmonization. It's a work energetic and congeva with this

to change the frequency vibratoria, we expulsed energies negative of places of persons of spaces.

That is my work. Dure almost 17 years in a project televisive

that was a name of extra normal right now. Bendito and God

we're we're Felipe Centejas and your servidor with a project

new relatively we've a year a month that's called Invisible

for YouTube is a channel in my channel official is the

project of Invis so well we've a year and many years, of really,

much years, learning in the middle and in the media, in the media where the spirit chocarrer, energies

negative, then, attack them to the people. So that's my job, not harmonize. Thank you,

thank you, Dr. Octavio. For all the people, mention to you that the channel of our

guest is in the description. For example, for favor, you subscribe,

you comment, I'm in part of Paco, we're from the part of

podcast, because the family of podcast extraanormal also to all our

people. Octavio, fichate that there there are many stories that us

that we know that about this person that has been so that's been so much

a long of the years, a long of the history. You, what you

do you do you do you do you in these cities that many

times are in the energies so negative vibrations so

bad you can say that there is a risk for

a person normal in those things completely finted there

there there people that take this this job

like I'm not going to be going to have to be much

careful with that Paco, no you know who abita, who is the duke of

the space, who entered and no want to and he is a other way is a

raigated. So the people who enter in this place, they're a risk

a risk, as well, because you can you can't get to your house,

you can't to your life a problem that in three lives

not you don't you The response, if there's a risk, if you know the theme, if you know how to protect you, and if you don't have all this type of care of energetics, orations, your protections, not you enter.

Decis, the exorcist of the Vatican that led to practice many exorcisms, Gabriel Amor, that exist in different forms in that in the way that a person can terminate for a demonio. And I want

to talk to a story to give an issue of one of these forms in that a human can be

a person and this is a through the brugheria and I want to tell you to

know your point of view. There is a child that has made a

email to this because is that house. And all this comes to the

matrimon of his brother. To start, we're a context of that his brother major, was the

child problematic, the child rebel, many times he played with his parents, all the time,

he was a moment where this kid decided, well, simply, go to go to the

house and make his life. After to do many things, regress to

call in the pastas, or so, piviening the opportunity that your mother did the opportunity to live another again, evidently his mom,

he does the opportunity. And, like, he's reformers. Then, it's a time, and that person has got an

employee of a master. It's a community, as you have said, professors, doctors,

doctors, and when they're in all this, they're to do things, and they're to do

and here is where there's something something strange. This chico, the brother

had a personality very radical. It was a person rebel, a person that had

no had plans of to be all the time, of the time, of the

fias, he didn't he didn't he was very a post. So when he was

to be to work to a master, to the few months he gets

to his house to the door, and he said to his family,

a mom, to his father, and the brother that he's manned the

story, mom, she is fullana of that's my husband.

Like all the family like, like, what, what, what,

what, what, she was my husband? Obviously, all the family,

all this story, no, of that well, well, that's

you're, that you were the moment, blah, blah, blah, no,

all this, they're so they they're so they're a lot of and so because

no there was a invitation to the it was very very rapid everything. The mom

said, well, it was the moment of that my son to get a life

in serious the problem gets at past the days because all the

family I know this type and this person was a

person was a different and it is where we don't a

context The people where this chico is a place where this is a town in Waxaca, obviously in this state, a

little more to the cost, I'm going to say more, where many families, or for not to say,

all, practicant the magic, practica in the brugheria. So, that's, that's kind of

a little in the family, but he said, no, the important is that my child

is that my son to his and he will be a father of the family. But

they'd know that this person had these these things very strange of being a man very

very festero or even very very happy he started to be a robot or said

calli with the head down and for many they're saying ah a mandilon

the reality is that what he's what he's he's he's put put

Paco that if my coonial he said committed that gaietta that fell to the

piece, he was he was a really, it was a control the that this

woman exercised over him. He said, my mom and my father, they'd

get back of all this. They were they were, and they were, and started to know,

if all was going going and he said that when they were talking

with him, the brother, the brother, like, I wanted but

like he had much this, like, not me went to to

to hear someone, when he he did a point of that not was his wife, that was alone, he started to cry.

He started there and he said, I don't want to start with her. No, I want to be here. I don't even

me wanted to cause. And so, then what happened? And if is that I don't know. No, I want, but

I can't start with her. I'm the necessity to start with her, but no know why. And then

like the family's started to to give that there was something there's

a man, I'm going to the husband and can't

to hear of this. And it's where the husband decide to

and to be to be there, and this kid of the brother

me to make a time, and was a one

was a woman and a woman and so my mom started and

my mom and when she I'm going to do this? I said, my mom started to get to get to go to

get to doorme, he gave much insomnia, he started a toss very frequent. I was how little to

go to get marchitando. This situation durow for at least almost almost

eight years in the that this family of my brother said no come to

not come and they were because you know they were that

But, well, they're going to this house when the brother he had a his

his first child. They got on when this year he had been five years and had passed

much time. And it's that when they're when they're he's he's got he's

done, passed on eight years but it was that they passed 20.

Envegecio he was was very and he said that the he said he had a very

very strong to his father. But this man only came to

to make a little to his abelita that he's he's

he said he'd he'd do a little bit of he's done, he says he's a

final of his nieto and he's what this kid is Paco what

what so so so kind so so via it by the

because knowing that the child, because is a person innocent, or so, it's a

mispercived. He said, my mom, he put happy because he was a man, because,

as it, he was, he was, he was a family. So, so emosionate was that

decided in mark this picture. And it was what did the did

a piece to a because, my mom he put in his talker, front of

her and that first night that she does that she says that he's to have

a lot of in these pesidias see a in a skin that no had like

he was like he was like so only they were in the

eyes not not the not the body the feet

were very big and he said all the time

this ser was all the time was observantly the mom, in orations, in adjunos,

yeah at this point, she said that when I'd say that when I'd like little arraignones in the body, in the piernas.

This was intensifying more the family, the family, the was a doctor, and this is one of the

circumstances of the brugheria. Medically, is invisible. The science no can explain, you know,

there's a failure in the organism, but here are these variations of what is what is what is provoking these diagnostics

that not are clear. And he says that all the time saw a a one of a carto.

It was passing the time and they were passing the days. She said that in one of these

nights she he's she a bitry and she and he gets a

and she sit a half of the night. And he will to be

to see and not in the life real. And he to her,

as a velocity impressive and and he started pressure on his pecho. The curious,

is that this kid that he's his mom from his room, and how he's

her she was she was she was on her so on this

so it's very something response. And not it was until that they started to make

hard of servitors of their church, that they had to go to this

house to to exercise a liberation. The impressionant is that when they were doing

all this, the nothing, the picture that that he had given to

his abelita, de the nothing, he's preending in

fire. This this chabo that me send this Correo, me says, my mom

no one could be my mom not could believe that this he had provoked,

so at final of the no-in- her know, that not was that he

was a family, and he said, this, this, this, he said, this,

he said, I don't know of my brother, I know of my cunia, but what

did is that occupied to my subrino for that he, for that he pardon,

I mean to leave a time a work a house

in a very much in a way innocent like a little a

little so is a story that me and the mom

is a little to see a his major no doesn't

know of their family but it's evident that

all what they lived as a one is something

that was that they people to do the liberation there, is that they could have to be there. You, what do you think is that? This exists, and me

it's very clear that this was a a work of brujeria, a domination complete to the and, you know, that one of the brusheries more fortes that could exist is the tomada,

because at the moment that you you're taking, what they're preparing, ritualized? In that moment, the persons, they're going to to lose the character, they're going to

lose the force, they're going to get that situation to say, if I want, or no I'm, and they're completely dominated, and not they're now important is

that part that through the child, the child has led to this little bit

that logical was ritualized and that they've attacked to the part fundamental that is

the mother that is the pillar, the force the person that with a person that

with a time, we think that a job of a work of a person

to a member of the family to do they do do directly But the love of a mother, the oration of a mother,

the preoccupation of a mother, is a force so great that is involved in that problem. Recordemus something. The Brugheria, in many occasions, when they aviant something to anyone, when they want to do something, think the people

that a person to the person to the is the is the that is the to be to be

to die or no where most you dole is where they attack

an a a humaniac always always you will attack

and to produce the the They have more power to be in this dimension. They don't have, no, they're not human,

no, they're inalm, if I'm do and understand. It's an energy, and that energy needs the our own, for that they're here and co-habit

with us. That's what they're. Impresionante, the story, exists, and there's people who matter. It's that really we've mentioned

many times the brugheria is the arm for excellence more occupied in

the world in Mexico especially to make people to make a other world. A

sometimes the people don't it's like that literally it's like if you contract

a because in his minds it's like no if I do

do it's more is more more suavecito for supposed

for because no the so the that the cause the

the same impact even is better because it

a suffering a long plaza in the that your body no die, but you're suffering constantly.

Yes, that part is very important. The science medical, as well you said, if you

know what you mentioned, no encounter some affection, some that is

that derive in that desgaste physical and emotional. One thing will get to

the other. That's very clear. When there a job of this

type, When you permit that that enter, I'll repeat, a through the food, for that, for that,

don't come, no come any a chicle of someone that, you know, you know, you know,

just, not of your family, and not is that one has exaggerated. It's that really that

exists. And when you're in entrains, it's a raugia, and it's very complicated

to put it, one, to quit two, there's many people that has costed

the life. There's many people that has been and that the

people said, no we know we're we're there was a

failure system but because because because that we

don't know we're there. Fidate that there are many

there there but already I'm I'm recording one

that happened a many a A story that that happened recently,

I started to dedicate me to this and had my place of work. One a person,

a man, a young, and he went to where I said, I go to look to

because I need to me help. I'm with much if it's in

my hands, then, well, that you do Iuxili and

you Fidate that my mom, my mom is very bad. My mom, I think, is a possess and he'll attack a demon. So, so if you help you, I'll go to thank you. With much to try to your mom, only that when she was saying this, her mind a looker, her rostro,

changed. It was very strange the way of comporting physically and to be, I said, ah, carie, well, if the mom is bad, and I see that she's bad, imagine how she'll be the mom. Sure.

At the two days, she's a man, a person very amable, a person a person a person that says, well, me brought my that because he says that I have something,

the lady, the woman no had nothing. Fifate, how the love of a mother or when you have an attack energetic, demoniac, also there's that contraparte

of the light, and your protectors, ancestors, guardians, you're going to be protecting, and the same people are living a battle internal, spiritual, mental, emotional, and physical, and they're asking

help in a moment of lucidity, incredible, although that energy is there, but there are momentums where they're I need, I need help. And you're, well, what strange because if you have an oppression very strong or a possession. Well, total,

that I'm talking with the mom, and me says, my daughter, me, says, my son is my sisterna. Yeah, it's approximately one year in that I I see very rarer, no doorme, is very aggressive,

is passive-aggressive. He has been a person without any reason, has destroyed things in my house, and

I've done of something that for me is impressionant and very very very very important, that is

the when see figures religious is, it's but exacerbated

his courage. I don't I don't I can't, no, I can't call down a crucifio because it's a bit, it he can't, then carrie, I said, no, we're we're trying to, we're trying to find out of something

very strong. And I have to confessing, Paco, we're humans, and in that moment, in that moment, if me gave me fear. What is this and what we're going to do? Well,

I was I'm in this place, that was my place of work, accompanied of a good friend and of a family, they were with me to visit.

So we're talking and get to the mom with her. No, we had made a visit, not we

had done nothing. So the woman, I'm going, I'm and I say, this is

this is out of control. This is very strange and me the I

didn't come. In that moment, I said, I said, I'm pass.

You keep for favor here out and that it's

and that pass and it and the really Paco was

impressive see that that I'm that you know that

is the not the man normal those those

eyes injected ro no me malentient they were

eyes of demonio but the same part blank

of the eyes, like that would have a conjunctivitis horrible. And I go,

passate, come, let's to make a talk a talk about, and I see,

he can be, he can be and he says, I don't have to talk to you. In that moment,

the people who were in visit with me, like they were something

and they put one on one of one of one of one of one of the other,

incredible, How, how reactioned? Look, you do, more or less, and you explain how was physically

this person. I think if I made 1.45, 1.46, was much. It was very very delgatita.

So, explain me, Paco, how a person so small and so delgated

to a person of 1.90 like of 130 kilos, to another person of 80 kilos, and to your servitor of a trancasso,

more of two meters. No, we could we couldn't believe. Impossibly. Humanly impossible. Humanely, but we're impressed. I said, I'm, what I do? I'm my Bible.

God, my, help me. of really and you know to do I think I

know what I'm what I'm my faith and I know that's

with so San Miguel Archangel with the blood of Christ

and we we start in that moment this person

go and he sit in a And I don't I'm

I'm I'm I'm sure I'm sure that during one minute or two

minutes he was really no I was he was completely friar

we're we're doing oration and I no no no in the bronca in the brink

in that we do and when we were doing the oration we We were very astusted, the three, and in that moment,

he'd up his arms, I had a crucifixiege of metal in front, he got her, he plato, and he begins to want to again golepear, he started to speak in an idiom, I don't know, Lengue, Arameo, I don't know, He started to profering majaderies of indole offending to the creator, offending those that we're there

and he wanted to getharned us to find out of the point vulnerable like to say, this happened I think that in one hour and a half

but you're the notion of the time. You mientes. You don't crees in God. I know what you have made. Like the

movies you have said. And the most impressive friend, is that

he was saying to one of the person that was with me things things

baderer. So this person was a scared and was a vulnerable and was

like, was exposed and I did, no you do you do you. What

did, we need, we need to continue resando, we need to

have to this quate the garra of the spalda to put in the water to put her

because he was like we're like we're going we're saying in the name of the father,

of the child, I'm going to say what I'm going to say he's going to come with me

and I'm sure, but well I know I know you we're we're going to do

we're saying we're we're we've unimimed that vincal that we we're we

we're we we've got in this moment impung the hand, at the moment that impung

the man, to know, it was a feeling was a very

was a frio, it was a time, but when I felt I was that

really me was disvancing something, I came to get a lot,

me he got she went, she she began to she because it

was completely black, and it And it was so, what you can say, 30 seconds? We're just saddestadish. First, first, no, he had a pulse. First, we thought that was that I'm still. Then, vomita, Negro.

No, no, it's offending. Tremend. That's great. I had I had a rosario that me had my mother, and when it was succeeding, I got me loquito, and I put it. In that moment, my friend, my, in that moment,

he said, and my mom, and what What happened? Yeah, you've attended but yeah, completely different. Wow. I don't you can't

assure, Paco, if that was a possession, if that was an oppression, what if did I say, is

that a demonio was trying to be able to be the spirit, of the energy,

of the soul, of this person. Bendito be my Father, God.

the things were well I'm talking you're talking a man I'm

about 18 19 years after and still in December me

about she and her and say to say me for deser me and

thank nothing they have to thank what we did and

what what happened in that occasion for auxiliar

her there me I did know that my work had to be this.

That the people think that you need that you need a know to do this

but Jesus said my name expulsaras demonios will be in lengas new

if it's me if you ingieres some type of venenaras that's

there I there I understand the force of creer, to continue, of the

service and of the love to that's vivid, I've put chinito. I'm

I'm a minute and I think, God, God, thank you. I thank you.

I said, thank because this experience and this school, not you do you

do you with the heart. With great, Paco. That's, I mean,

particularly you're important that many people, especially some

those erudites of the studio, that you need a lot of

monological in theology to do you, and I apart the knowledge and it

is power. But there in the sacred scriptures, you stipulate

what it's that's mention the name, that is over

a name to that all that all the

right the doble. So it's impressionant because we're humans and

you do you know you're very clear like as humans we're like the

fear. The fear and I'm paralyzed me has been in shock

I've seen I have seen that's something you say is a important you know

we're a position completed or was in the phase the oppression. But there a point important

of the demonio. The demonio is a specialist in the patience. He's he's per. He no mure. No, it's like us that the time is lineal and from here in

the way, no, no, no, no. He the time no, no, no, no, no. He is patient. I want to tell you that story because it's very dense, brother. There's a child that us Compartes

a story This chica we put a name because

is an anonymous her history this pass in Michoacan

we we decided nom her Susana Susana us

says that comes from a family of money

his family has ranches in Michoacan and especially

there a ranch that she she she she

she she she was where was his the last

years before that his abolitos fall when when she

when she moved to the world and he's a love

to the person to and the person to and when they

they're planning the to that susanna to say

we're to we're going to I'm I'm and I know

yeah yeah yeah he I'm all all all right

all all all all all all all to go to the rancho

some days, two weeks, approximately to planific everything. And here there's a

very rare. When Susanna regress to the rancho to doormy, where she was

when she disblocked some records that she she didn't know that she could existier.

To I go? When you pass things very very very

sabia block that this type of things. And she started to record things that, for some reason, her mind had said, this, no, you know,

this no, you know, the first night that Susanna doorme in that rancho, took a paralysis of a dream, but that was all. In this paralysis, be a man, somber, but very great, enormous, that she was acercaba and he murmurva her name one and

other once. At the morning the next she gets and he does the

when she doesn't that when she had forgotten all that she has been to start

and she remember that she always to remember it's a person imagineate

that she was when she was a she was she she was to have

much fear of this and me said to him I I did

for first in the stable. I, he me he was at the morning.

He said, I remember that in that one of the people of the people, me said that a yewah

was to have to have to have his cras, no? And he said, and he said, and

he said, this ygewa would be to parir. And she as a little, is,

and she kept in the stable and the jagua, then has a, to his animalitos, and

he said, and I remember that it was the first time that I she was there in the stable and see this ser parado, afura, and that little to a poco, she was coming acercaving to her. So, she began to record all the times that this

ser, he was stuolestating when she was a little, but she, she didn't know why she always she never was, and in a platica with her his abuela, he said,

"'A'er, "'I said, I mean, my ha, this. Fishe's that I've seened much with this and with that. He thought

he was going to say to something like, ah, are your nervous or this and the other. Dice that

the abuela she got calied, but he put a rostro like very serious. So that

he's like a little of a little of confusion because he did know that the

woman said a little about this. He began to to ask with the people, with friends, nobody

he said to get a old friend of the infancy of the ranch. That's not he said, but he was

like insisting to him, insisting, until that this chico he said, you're going to say,

what is what we say, I've discovered that my family or what the people

thought of my family, is that my family had a kind of a special of because my

vis-abuel, my bis-abuel, had pacted. For that my family had ranchos, had a ganado, had tierras, had this,

the other. And I don't know what I said. I said, I said, I got it to be a matter of my family had packeded

and that that result that the pacto that had made that said that the demonio

would be to desposar to the little because he was her her husband. Before

that she she caser before that she contrager a matrimon the demonio he was

to be to esposar is what said this story, this legend then

then she began because she was a little be a this being a

stable and why he was and why he was in the preparative of his

wedding with his husband he said that for this point the

things started to get I had with hematomas

had circulos like chupetes chuppetones like in the hipets in the coo in the

head, in the back, I don't see, me saw in these I don't

me goopied with nothing and he said that the apparitions of this were more frequent

and more frequent but she me say something and say I'm to have

to confess that I I sentia a little of a

attraction to him so that the moment to the

night and Dormir. If I sentia Mied but he said in the

fond there was a thing that he did him in the

intimacy in the intimacy is what she she so she

was so she he said there there is there there

there can be to let's let see you can't do

this person and this person he says that what you have you is very

strong, but we're going to try to do it. For one time, it was preparing, he gave a brebages, like limpies, to do this as kind of

liberation. But that first liberation was fallida, her man. It was failed. No,

it was not a accident in this liberation. Casse he'd the life to this person

that was doing this. But, says Susanna that in middle of the liberation, she had

a vision. Dice that in this saw the abuel and he saw

how he did a pacto with this same he but

that this pact was accompanied with a sacrifice

where she she see how they they they

they they he said that this sir he

he said I don't I can do you

his abuel is one of the pactos most

Fuertes, no was with a word no it was something so simple it was

a pacto that implicated derraming I'm you know I'm I'm

sorry he said he said I don't I don't and if I do and we

do we and we there's risk there there risk of that you pass something

and then this she's so this I don't I can't continue with my

life because if I I have more children, I mean, the herencia maldita

will say, and he said, I'm if he's disposed to help me,

and he said that the Lord's kept in silence, like he was

thinking, and he said, I came to this world to serve and

and if me I'm doing so I'm that I did the correct.

We're to continue but we're going to prepare us more.

Necessito to me bring you a We need to work with the energy of Then she said She's, for me

It's very easy Because all my generation have goted things in disbannes in, like in quarters

She said that she He's rapid went to to look to a lot of things and found a

ball for her You know what was what he he? He found a

Cucille large that she said that was the same Cucillo that

she occupied for to do the pact, to do the ritual. With that, we're able

to find it. He was in a ball, he had a candad oxided. There was. This

sir, he started to prepare, all, occupied this cuchillo, and he started this

he said, he said, he said, he said, profound, exhala. Respira, inala,

exhala. He said that she was doing all for inertia, but his mind was in other

other thing and that he said like he started to do you, like he started

to do you, but not she was getting dormida. At the contrary, entro in

a state altered of a conscience and of the point when he does

this person is a manifest to her and she he he to be

to all color, he physically said that it was a great

two meters. It was a morepho because no had a physiognomia like the of a human but it was a man. Even she saw that effectively

was masculine because she saw a part important of the man and was there. Grand imponent and he said that this being not he had been

to communicate a through the thought telepathically and he said there was a moment where I sent me an attraction sexual to work

to him and to say, paren't all, I'm kept with him. But she

still was the voice of that but he said he was the way that he said he said,

tell you that he romp the trot. So, like the thing, he was

that he had to have to run per with all this. And literally the

person was to her and she said that she was he said she was heard

but that her was her was the but incontenibly. But, of

a point, like, it's encealed in her, get in the recordos with my Prometido,

I'm my family, I'm my children, I'm a family, a family a great.

And is where she takes the value, and it's confronts, directly, he says,

romp all a catena that me at you, the desbarato, it's quember,

it's, and it desech, and it where it's where this power

that we have talked to you in the name of Jesus we're

we're we're this. He's that she literally see how there

was a kind of that was this part of the body of him

and how this is she is she when she she goes

and she's but he he started to have like a

sort of I'm feeling but was like it was like

was a and there were emotions, but that she also also was the same time recobranding the conscience and that only what you remember is

that the man was that was in the piece, she was in the house, there was a little there, she

she didn't know what she said, but this man said, but this you know, I don't you

could control, this was the only form in that she could romper with this attaura we're going.

like. She me wrote this call because me said

I'm I'm not I don't know I'm I'm my family

I'm my husband I'm my my vision but I

know I know that had happened if she had

decided to continue with this well we let's you

what you think that you think very very

very and how fift that that well that

that work or that pacto that made his family earlier how affect

a various generations that is very important mention it. Not

only is a person are various generations those that have an

affectation of this type now how the part the part the part

the part sensible sexual a through, there's one of the magias more complicated and is the magic sexual. And there is where they're

a much of people, that in this case, I think, I think, I was configured with various things tremendous. Now, when you were telling this, Paco, I was I imagining, or my mind was seeing what you were saying of that

being a morpho that she was in front of her and that, well, I knew that his name, because he was being the virility and you know that one of the great representations of various demons that

through the years have been manifestes in exorcisms, appear in that manner. Yes. Apparece in that manner.

I think, and without demore I'm, that was trying to against something very very and that at final

of the count, if not if you had worked in that moment

to liberate to but important so important with the

person and the and the person to say I romp short,

destrozo and disulvo whatever pacto or whatever thing that

has in my ancestors or my ancestors have done and libero and libero to all my generation or various generations of this. That, I guarantee so, Paco, that no, nothing more, it was for her. That would have brinked to his

kids or to his kids. And it would have been the story of never to have. This exists. This is real. if you listen to you and say, well, but I have my

doubts. And I, I know that I've got so many years in this, if you see all

what I've seen, all what I've heard, and that people think that

this type of obscurity of demonies, of entities provienes not more of a time and

space and a plan dimensional or a multiverse because those, they're multidimensional. That's, they're to understand.

That's. That's, first, we don't have access and in second place, they're they're in access to to enter here.

But, at times, all this is disfraza of other type of situations. And I

think what you have to tell is the hand with something very That's very strong that I've

I've got to record. Adelante, my God. I've got some years of the same way. I've the opportunity to receive a person that me was to

and at the moment that he went, he said, he said, I'm a fulana of this, I said, so, passate,

in what you can't serve? No see. Well, but me did this. Well, is that where I work, one of my companions of the

work, he was to come. And he no could. And me said, well, you. And, well, I'm here. This is your house. If I can't serve in something,

well, I'm going to do, but tell me to you know. Is that, I don't know. Ah, carie. Okay. Well, a person normal.

In any moment, momented in that moment that that was a some type of oppression, of attack, of rituals, of brujeria, of you know,

of those energies that can lastime to the people, in the most minimum. We did a harmonization.

It was the person very very content, my son, me, I'm, I feel very

very well. I feel my energy perfectly well, and I can't come back

the next. This is your house when you want you don't

know. I pertinent, that you're here every week, but I with just you receive. Yes.

Vuel. I'm to attender and me says, ah, that I feel of marvilla,

me I feel very well. Fifate that I live near here, of where

you are to have lived to have been a 10 quadras of there. He said,

no, well, look, even we're not, I'm would like much, me

I said, to be if I can't try to my abelita or I can try to a family that,

I think that's, like I started, I'm, I started, that maybe she

only had been a vehicle to auxiliar an family. That I thought I

in their moment. Stando, I, in my place of my telephone,

is this person and me and he says Oye Octavio I have a problem if you're to give to your orders

I'm in my house and in this moment is it is tumbling and

is moving all the house a see if not it's not

it's there here my abuelita is another family and

he below the temperature friend my as you

here imagine that when I talk when I see a

phenomenon poltergeist in his house that is to my

work the light started and connected connected so

the the first me you have you best you know, just is...

Just as well, just as you're altering. Sure. If you know what you do it, alborotas. Alborotas. It's very complicated. But is that my

my abuelita is very bad. My perrits are like locoes, yorrable. A little, I mean, I'm going to

say, well, I'm going. Amigo me, at getting to the house, at the room of her,

I said, all, they said, moment. I remember very that I don't

why I got I my my my tools but I got

also a litro of alcohol and it was you know.

You know that those beings that they are and

that do you do do you canals the information

for that you you can do you because, but in occasions they're saying,

agar this, agar the other, and go ahead, and so it's your soul your being your soul you're going,

or God myself, or what you like you, like you want you want to go to the

room, the moment, I'm in the temperature, no see you have been in you has

been in a center commercial or in a place where they're where they're

there are 20 refrigerators and you know, no, no, no, no.

I'm to know that's felt like if you had been an refrigerator

of the morgue. The light of the house was was parpadiating

tremendously and it and it and so moved the lampas and the

candelabros I was impression and and hasusted and doing what is oration

and trying to expulsed what was there. And I'm going to say, and never I've said, but today I'm going to say.

Thank you. In this occasion, it was so hard the goal that I received of energy

that my man right was when he was when took the problems that me left my my

and in the name of my Lord Jesus that, a dolor, and from, and

there, there came various things. I said, well, it's Wow. No, no problem.

To that I'm and I do with love because I have to do. Something that me surprised enormously. This never had told.

Oh, much thanks, no. Never. Never. I'm surprised enormously, that at the moment that I was

doing this work and that I said that I went to that my hand me doled horrible, that was

And so you know, you know, that an interference at level of the camp electromagnetic, a tracet, is that there is there, and that what is there is is very. So, it's going to the light completely. It was a house of a

a room with an abetation that had built in the part of the area. The persons that were this person, the abuela, the perrits, They were out of the house. When I go to the escalers of that habitation, all together.

All together in Negroes. You've seen those Negroes of the movie that you're seeing and, of a sudden, Negro. And you know, you know what's nothing in the cinema? Me, I see it. No, it was an alucination.

Allude was in black. And the most impactant was that in middle of the cell there was like a

an iman a man that you had that he'd that not was

not a spirit hauling no was a demon a demon no

no there was a mother I don't know that was circular

that if you you were you you you had up.

You could let mehita. You could make levita. Look, in few words, like a process of abduction.

It was impressive because it was a few minutes. I'm in oration

with a pain of a no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

I think has been one of the the proofs more more more more

that I have received the service and to see I'm the temple to do

this job. There me I'm did count, not for

van gloriar in the most minimum that not any

and that the faith is the most important and that

the and that the and the most important that

we're important that we need this situation I go

to the call. They're there are there and I'm parades to the expectation, logical. What

happened? I'm said, Octavio, when you were you're going to be made of the

night, we've seen some the sky, I'm upunting to the

house. A the telephone falled. Okay. I said, what barbarity.

I mean, that's that I know, I never I never had told. But it

was impressive what he is the and where I I think that the

phenomenon demoniac energetic poltergast Brugery call like you want you

have you have a A lot of Vertientes. And the people say, it's from there,

but like up to be down, my brother. Like that's outside.

Exactly. I'm, I chinga. Where came? What's opened? What portal?

What portal? Why this family? A family a family, people good,

a friend of the person, people of faith. And I mean, there me

I did also because the she was in a peace and he had a oration but in

Latin okay. You imagine the force? Sure. So, was all the orations

in Latin. They're very powerful. After this experience, me pegged a little to the

senior and I'm going to learn to all to learnes my brother. For

the I'm sorry, I think it was stigmatized. Then, every that I dole, I go, this exists, the obscurity exists, is a battle continual. And, and have to liberate with courage, with faith.

But the most important, Paco, with humility. A demonio no has humility. Jesus was humilded complete. When you

when you enter my brother in that vibration the miracles occur and the

spirit and the gift and the gift to us to us that we we're

we're made manifest I think in that in that occasion was

very very but me sent it so good to have

made that the people had that the house and you

know you know how I I I I I

sent in my car I I went the door

I and I don't I I'm I I don't

no no no I see and what caraj did what

was that that was that was that I didn't but I thank because I

live and I'm thank you thank you thank for this experience and you

do thank what you see that will be more but that never I go

and that you go and that in that moment in that moment fung

so me they're all those dolores. Wow. But like, as if so facto, how if you had gone to be able to be

a bit, let me, let's. And let's. I'm very impressioned of that experience because I think you'll start with me. It's a lot. It's a lot of the process of

abduction. And it's and it's a lot of that are extraterrestres. But But, understand that possibly within of these

races, there are demons? Ceres hostiles. Ceres hostiles. And of

another way, they're to get to mark their territory, they're

to get to venting that energy and to provoke in a family

the fear, the anxiety, the pain, to absorb the energy, and

to make in the earth a line geopatic andferma for that they can

have control and arraigars here. Fichter, I'm am I am trying

the name of him, because there a person and this many times

I've said, the phenomena non-humans, extraterrestres, have the same or comple the same functions than entities demoniacas?

Number one, Poltergays, they can move the things, tirals. Number two, to talk telepathically, at your mind, if not occupant a little language, you understand? Number three, posseer, because also there are cases like

that the pilot Mexican that was posseed by an extraterrester and he about the

same than a demonio and it is impressive manno because for many

the you know the way is the thing like the man who the

the people the exatres well are aliens but

for many people is the same and there a person

I don't I found the number but I

had that I was to persons contacted, even abducted, and he discovered that, saying the name of Jesus, at the middle of the abduction, he'd detain the abduction, the detainer the atraco. He was he discovered.

400 cases of people that detain these atraco, these abductions, mentioning the name of Jesus. and when he he said to the community of investigators oh, I didn't encounter this

what happened here? Because they're saying is that an abduction no can't do you can't and he

he's he's he's got I'm here the archiv of 400 that said the investigators

yeah we know we know we've done and why not they don't know because the

religion is that because nobody nobody will be to believe, but it's something that

we know. That's I've investigated in a year, two years. I said it's impressive

because it's the same phenomenon. They're things interdimensional spirituals. We're we're with

a form of a physical, but at the final of you know, we don't know

that's what those prophets saw and nombring like demunions. Every To who put the title or the etiquette

that most he conveying or more care? But for me, personally, for Paco, are the same. They're not spiritual, interdimensional, not physical, but that can get

to have these manifestations so strong in any moment. Completely of accord with you. Fidate, what marvellia, Paco,

that is the to be talking of these things and that we've got to a point that I'm

you know, you're being excited because you're saying, is that I think I'm investigating this this is that

this is that they're that they're and is that the process of abduction have much

to be with the phenomenon of demonology I'm I've created all my

life and and poor people don't no no much people

no no No, he's atreve. Fifate that, if there's something, my God, is if you don't you have the courage and the value

of doing, much less you're going to have the value of to be able to. Sure. To you,

this theme you appassiona. It's you know, you know, you know, and you docturas.

And that, my, you do a great power. The is power. And it's a power, and is a power, that power good, friend, Paco, that power of service, of the light, no, no, no, no, no, it's the power that's, no, no,

no, no, it's the power that has my heart, the ensignances spiritual that I started from I made that I

inculcated, that me gave, that I'm magnifico and that's my major treasure. There,

there is, the true power. So, with humilded. Yoel, man,

what you know, what you do you do you do this, are things that

I've done I've done as a person that I read, I leo I read much

stories that me share in and evidently there's a pattern that all the stories have

a lot of a kind of a lot of and a line between the phenomenon paranormal and

other phenomena is so delgated that they can't and you know, you know,

because it's the same completely completely it's the same. Fiatarman I,

I want to this story to finalize have heard the classic my

abuelito he's he's he's famous of the radio social

that the old he went to get to catchatsos with the

diablo to something something something this this this

child he says that his abel he a man of

the other of these people that tabac mescal

tempr to cut leana or so, Hombers of the before.

He told a history because his abuel he said and he he said that he

saw that he saw, he knew to be a person a person because the devil

has power in this world and can materialize also. He said that this

man, when he was a young the abel he was in a can't

in a rancho and When the rancho or the agent of police of the people, organized fiestas, events, vallia,

haripos, even, he had to come all the people of other people, and, you know, and it was the live apostadera,

all the world was to the guyo, that the cardas, this, all this. And many

were in this can'tina where he had the old, when he had his 18,

19 years. He was, attending, vendient. He said that that there was an event grand in the people,

there was a man that he was a most to postar and that that night that was all full of

people, imagine we're this place, and people just ebrias and jugando cardas

for there and postand and etc. This man started to postar but

he was to lose. He started, he started, and yeah we know that the

games of azard are a something of what you need to because you gettusan,

you can't get chan and you can't get to this man and then he started and to

and to and to and then his desperation for recuperate all,

he said, he said for favor, present me a lot money, I'm

to pay to do my cocecece you pay. and he he said to

pay and he said he said there's people that he said no you're not

you're not you don't you're not you're a but

there was a person a man that was in a

corner in a can sat so a subject very

very very well well and a sombrero very

elegant sack the sir sated and he he said how money occupies

no well he's I'm I'm I'm sure I'm I'm sure

that I'm so if I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm right that's my kosecha that he says that this man

he's he's he's his man his he does a facko grand

of There you have. But if you're going, me you have to give a minute, more of the time. Me you're going

to do? Yes, if I'm, if I'm, I'll do the of the causecha. Well,

he said that the abuel saw this, much people do it. And this senior

elegant, well that's very very much, there was, passed those minutes, passed on

the minutes, and he said that the people started, to get, to a one

a interesting. Well, now after a rato, this man

began to get the after the after he was to win and the money and the pastes

were making more more than. So, the people started and went to see,

what's going to have much murmur, much grito. Because, all this type

was with various rachitas gannando, but the appusts now were not of $1,000,

and what me were there. They were ranches. There were a manch who there was a

man who her husband after having had perished and all this was going to this man that he was

going to say that this night this man was embriaged a more no power

that was that was so his goodos so felicit to have goted that had

the bottles most caras and he was I was just I don't know. I mean, I

pay all the type, he had made much money in that night. He's he's

he's and he's stacied with the box with the money and in the

out of this can't be to get this man the that he had

done the money. Where you go? Well, I'm go. My

money we had a trot. Quitate I don't I don't you dewe to you, nothing. Largat.

I mean, the type yeah, well, I got a, he said that this man, the

person, the person, the man was the person, he was a big, so much

cavernosa, very, uh, imponent, he, he bented a carcahada, and he

said, he's like, he's like, he said, and he said, he gave other

man. This other man that was a man still more more

more more more but he a peculiarity he was extremely delgated

the abuel that was the people and the person he said

that the friend was a was a car but

was very very and he he he he

he he he he and the two started

to go well the the man was happy to

feste that he had ranchos that he had women had

money nobody nobody nobody knew of him until the day

the next because what what they they were

his zapats the camis that I'm that part of

his car what what how was possible result

that there some those people got to how this man even

even even even by the banquette and then they said he's

he went parado like being a bad in front but like

literally see literally he said that he was a guy and he started

and he's and like or necessity to get to something he

abienta to a side, he in a creadero of cerdos

of cochino and all the people that lived only

heard just said the people the the her and

they were just they're just they're so so so

so that about that night this abuelito that

told the story that saw a this man in his

youth and he says to all, I see, that man was the man,

he was the man, and he he was he said, no was more than the

same murder. Because they were how his face so

that's so and they're two great friends. And

that story us this see my family the

day that a man tried that the Christ with the devil.

What a great story, the reality. Look, that's great history and what great ensignance, because a

sometimes the people and not dimensioning the fact of the power to sell

his own, or have a pay with your own your own life and how the

avaricia to give to cases of this type. That impressive. But, well,

well, you know, you can manifest and present to the way that they're they're more,

you're more more close than what we think we're and we're to have to the eyes abirtos

and not just the physical amy. The eyes of the eyes of the soul. Amigue,

much thanks, thanks, thank us this opportunity to be able to collaborate

together, to talk with you. The first first time, I'm going to say. It's a

great, grand agasajos. He's a person with much knowledge, especially with a much

experience. How do you do you know? Always always here. Pucko, always is

an honor to be here to be here to be participating with you. You're a person

very serious, very good in what you do you do. And that so is a great

that, my I'm when you when you invite you when you here

I'm here always always it's always it's your public much many many

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has lost the life. I'm going on the fire, not, in the fire. You want to be able. You want to you want to

do you, who has relations sexual with your cuneada? Philippe, me help, me levant, he's,

he'll levanted to a a house, and boom, it's a incendiar all, and we said, we're going to to come here. We're going to get to get,

all the house.