EXTRA ANORMAL - Tenia Brujería Dentro | Casos Reales De Muñecas Malditas

Episode Date: August 15, 2025

En este episodio, exploramos los casos más escalofriantes de muñecas que parecen tener vida propia… y no precisamente para jugar. Desde la historia de Alicia, que restauraba muñecas viejas hasta ...que una comenzó a moverse y llorar liquido vital atormentando a su hija, hasta el inquietante incendio en donde dos muñecas “lloraron” tras ser quemadas 🔥.📍 Viajamos a Saltillo, donde un anillo encontrado en un cementerio trajo consigo la presencia de su difunta dueña 👻; y a la oscura historia de una niña con una muñeca “regalada” por una extraña, que cada noche intentaba llevársela a un aquelarre 🔮.También conocerás:🪆 La muñeca familiar que atrapó las almas de sus dueños por 4 generaciones.El aterrador “Muñeco Lalito” y los vínculos extraños con objetos.La muñeca “Simona” destruyo a otros juguetes.🎎 La legendaria muñeca Okiku en Japón, cuyo cabello sigue creciendo.👁️‍🗨️ La Annabelle de Saltillo que habla y camina por las noches… incluso después de ser desactivada 🎥.📌 Historias reales, imágenes impactantes y el lado más oscuro de los objetos poseídos.CONTENIDO EXCLUSIVO: www.podcastextraanormal.com.mx

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Starting point is 00:00:00 They say the eyes of a muke never parpadean, but always they're looking. Immoviles, silenciosas, and eternally present. Objects for one's, conducto of something
Starting point is 00:00:15 more obscure for others. But what would when something that doesn't move to, seem to have to have a thought proper?
Starting point is 00:00:23 What things are in behind of those somerises congelas? Today, I, I invite to to look at front
Starting point is 00:00:30 to what never never moved to be moved for si only. Welcome. What
Starting point is 00:01:07 How are you? To be welcome to this new episode of podcast extra normal. My name is Paco Arias and I'm happy to be with all of you in this new season, fourth season.
Starting point is 00:01:21 And the truth is that I'm very happy because as you can do We did we have a change A lot interesting for all of you and over
Starting point is 00:01:31 all the thing that we this night a time that many people have asked and that I can't
Starting point is 00:01:38 be with the best person to talk of these things. Today us a great
Starting point is 00:01:45 friend, a colleague of a great person of the great voices of
Starting point is 00:01:50 terror and today I'm please to present to St. Santiago
Starting point is 00:01:55 Santiago, how are you? Very well, Paco. Much more thanks for the invitation. Here we are now in your studios. Very beautiful, for sure. Thank you. This new studio, thank you.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Thank you. I know, I see that much you have seen and I've heard your relato, but for the people that
Starting point is 00:02:12 for the first I'd like that for favor, you present, who are you, San Diego Segovia is the
Starting point is 00:02:20 Investigator Paranormal. There is the platforms. And, well, Locutor of it has many years, Paco, Locutor of Radio, yeah more of 35 years. And, actually, we've been a program
Starting point is 00:02:34 of yeah, we've done 16 years to the air. Okay. The, the whole transmit three hours diaries, from the Monday to the Wednesday, to the morning, totally aboutas, and, well,
Starting point is 00:02:46 we, we know, we're doing the paranormal, no? Much thanks, my name, for start with us. The, the fact is that the theme that we
Starting point is 00:02:54 bring us for this night stories of the lot of
Starting point is 00:02:56 many people people about think that Annabel or
Starting point is 00:03:01 the muke robert that inspired to the movies
Starting point is 00:03:04 of Choky are only the mucke or the
Starting point is 00:03:09 story that they have a thing a thing
Starting point is 00:03:14 of a thing dark but we know we know there
Starting point is 00:03:17 more stories that not are famous but even
Starting point is 00:03:20 can even even that the same mukees you know what you think about that's the
Starting point is 00:03:27 thing you know it's a reason Paco in this that you mention you're not so famous because we know that
Starting point is 00:03:32 the muckees are in vases they've used for many many people but a sometimes so it's
Starting point is 00:03:38 in the environment that the family the only that is to give them to get them
Starting point is 00:03:44 to the or regal last delante so but and they're they're
Starting point is 00:03:49 they're there and when we're when we talk we so I, much people say,
Starting point is 00:03:54 oh, well, in my house passed this. In my house we had been a
Starting point is 00:03:57 muke, and it's this very. Because many many times, Paco, we've
Starting point is 00:04:03 bought these in in tientas in tient and we know we know who were, to
Starting point is 00:04:07 people of this type of mukees and what are able to do you. Fifate that one of
Starting point is 00:04:13 the things that I my, me, me, me, I'm a lot
Starting point is 00:04:17 much of doubts. It's a phrase that is a repeat in my
Starting point is 00:04:21 head in my many No, we know what vinko could have this artifact not this object
Starting point is 00:04:53 because many times they're of the mukees, but it's an an unilio,
Starting point is 00:04:58 it can be a diadem, it can't even a prenda. So that is the vincal
Starting point is 00:05:03 that much times when you do you do you get to you can cause problems
Starting point is 00:05:08 because very serious with the ambit paranormal and that even for those
Starting point is 00:05:12 people septic there is where they they is where they not is like
Starting point is 00:05:17 as well as they imagine so much it's because many
Starting point is 00:05:21 you know how you know that you know that that the
Starting point is 00:05:24 time maybe to the the woman she was
Starting point is 00:05:29 they they they they and and you know
Starting point is 00:05:34 you know so there exists that that that
Starting point is 00:05:37 that courage no so they impregn of this
Starting point is 00:05:41 type energies these these these muke of that
Starting point is 00:05:44 person that was So, so So it's So it So it's So it's
Starting point is 00:05:49 It's It's a So I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna tell a story
Starting point is 00:05:55 Adelante That's And so one of the stories most interesting is that
Starting point is 00:06:01 has to have with with my peculiarity She she
Starting point is 00:06:05 had she was she she was a lastima much a
Starting point is 00:06:16 Alicia knows that for she always was like to be a a little and from she was a
Starting point is 00:06:24 mom, that even in feches like a year new, that not he'd not be
Starting point is 00:06:29 newas, but that were like to bea and to these places where they
Starting point is 00:06:34 are objects of second man, to to buy them to get
Starting point is 00:06:39 that they're in malas conditions because Alicia and her
Starting point is 00:06:42 mom they they They restored, they'd, they'd paint some some things,
Starting point is 00:06:50 they'd change the hair, the eyes, and they they were
Starting point is 00:06:53 quite in the person, the look, how a muke passed
Starting point is 00:06:58 to a bad a bad, a state where any
Starting point is 00:07:02 could another another another opportunity. So, Alice says
Starting point is 00:07:06 that all his life was so, even even that in
Starting point is 00:07:09 her adultus, she she was her was her hobby. Not
Starting point is 00:07:14 your business. He had a actually had to a time
Starting point is 00:07:17 and I'm a usually out of a six years to be to the
Starting point is 00:07:21 years, to come in and where they had mukees she she was
Starting point is 00:07:26 exactly the same exactly the same and the things, the
Starting point is 00:07:30 hair, and then he was paint over the rostro all, it
Starting point is 00:07:35 and what she was to go to get to there were there were
Starting point is 00:07:40 people were low resources and and nina's and they regalable these mucingas
Starting point is 00:07:44 and I said to she'd a lot to get a little a little a new year
Starting point is 00:07:51 that was that was a year and that was sure would be to turn in the
Starting point is 00:07:55 bathroom to be how they're and she repeated much that phrase
Starting point is 00:08:00 it's like if I would to help a little and
Starting point is 00:08:03 another again again that then then we tell an
Starting point is 00:08:08 anecdote that occurred ago a few years after. She said
Starting point is 00:08:12 that he was regularly with her she and she and she's
Starting point is 00:08:17 a man who a particular. This muke was like
Starting point is 00:08:23 a porcelana had some had some in tela
Starting point is 00:08:26 but what was the carita what were the and the
Starting point is 00:08:30 piececittes were like the porcelana but the impactante
Starting point is 00:08:34 of this muke is that in his eyes was that
Starting point is 00:08:37 it was a human. You see, we're not us humans we're in the eyes.
Starting point is 00:08:43 This muke it was a and he was a lot and he had a grietta
Starting point is 00:08:48 very marked in the rostro. So she said, it was like like if I was
Starting point is 00:08:55 like if I was I was I'm I'm going and I remember that my my I'm
Starting point is 00:09:02 my I'm I know you know that you get to buy this type of my
Starting point is 00:09:06 I'm I want but it's a pretty feita like a my
Starting point is 00:09:11 little a little the appearance of this but she was a
Starting point is 00:09:17 she was she she she she she didn't no
Starting point is 00:09:21 nothing she she was she was her and the two
Starting point is 00:09:25 three days that he took the time he went to he went
Starting point is 00:09:29 to let us to let us to let's recover one
Starting point is 00:09:34 of the manita did remendar some parts of the muke that were
Starting point is 00:09:39 very malas even the even she he went to do you know about with his hands to
Starting point is 00:09:46 get it and even he said that after a second to do this his sister
Starting point is 00:09:52 and she said moma what beautiful that's but there something in her
Starting point is 00:09:56 but I know I don't no I don't I don't me much much
Starting point is 00:09:59 mirra said her said one we we were, we're going to in the house.
Starting point is 00:10:06 It was my my wife, I said, I'm my daughter, and I remember that my husband was
Starting point is 00:10:11 talking. De-pronto my husband was so he went very serious and he kept looking
Starting point is 00:10:16 to a rinkon and me says Alicia what that's a mind that has a
Starting point is 00:10:22 muke because has his eyes so. And he says, I don't
Starting point is 00:10:26 do you do you do the question. The truth is that, I don't
Starting point is 00:10:30 I could avoid and look that he brilled much, the eye the eyes
Starting point is 00:10:37 had this brill. No, he said, who knows, who's what's the matter?
Starting point is 00:10:42 But if is very, very peculiar that is a mind that he's, we're
Starting point is 00:10:45 we're to come. I'm I'm a little, and I gave to her
Starting point is 00:10:50 to the room to be to her I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:10:54 always to learn a question to and if I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:10:58 I'm saying I was But, of I don't I remember that my my
Starting point is 00:11:03 daughter and I'm I'm saying Mom, I'm do you know I'm because
Starting point is 00:11:10 my time? Is that I'm much fear? But what you do you
Starting point is 00:11:15 do you you know? And signala with his dedito to a part
Starting point is 00:11:19 of the where was this muo that was a person you put sure
Starting point is 00:11:24 there was the pecas and said but why my love is
Starting point is 00:11:29 that I I've seen movers, Moma. But in what moment, I said,
Starting point is 00:11:36 in this moment, Moma, I don't I've had had been in the
Starting point is 00:11:41 comedor and he got to the court. And, and so
Starting point is 00:11:46 Alicia like he fell the and said, my
Starting point is 00:11:50 husband he went to do in what when the moment
Starting point is 00:11:54 the muke came I don't did you, I don't Tonto drama, but my I don't me soltable to the
Starting point is 00:12:02 hand and me said, Mom, no me deges. In that moment he went my husband
Starting point is 00:12:07 because he went to ask what I'm and my his wife he said I'm don't me
Starting point is 00:12:12 I'm afraid. My husband is a Susie to to do to get a camera
Starting point is 00:12:17 to us and I go to the muke me I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:12:21 looking because it was inevitable not not miral to my
Starting point is 00:12:26 husband had had And I'm going to say Algo When I I centred in his
Starting point is 00:12:34 mirabing, no was imagination really passed. I saw how two lachrimas
Starting point is 00:12:41 out of his eyes and they were in that moment I of the sust I let's
Starting point is 00:12:47 and again to come and again the partes that are in porcelana I remember
Starting point is 00:12:53 that I remember that I'm I'm going with my husband me said what
Starting point is 00:12:57 you And he said, no me you're going to I'm going to see how that that's a mirroated and it's
Starting point is 00:13:04 like some those eyes that are just going to get used to and see how they're two
Starting point is 00:13:10 tears. And my husband, and his husband he says, oh, Alicia,
Starting point is 00:13:15 well, you're a rata, you're a rata that's cosying and that's, you're going to
Starting point is 00:13:20 get to get to and the muke and said yeah I'm sure I'm and I
Starting point is 00:13:25 said, I'm all normal and caminet me accorded of my and I said
Starting point is 00:13:32 the muke no I've recogied and when he went to go to get her he was
Starting point is 00:13:36 he was he went in the room of her sentada in this moment
Starting point is 00:13:42 I was preparing the but yeah this sensation of fear
Starting point is 00:13:47 and I was in Alicia yeah I had had
Starting point is 00:13:50 no there no there and she was a she
Starting point is 00:13:57 was I felt quite apatica and I said my amour, what you know,
Starting point is 00:14:02 what do you do you say, and she I'm really a lot more to be a pecs mom, me dole
Starting point is 00:14:10 much and signal to his heart when I dole much when me I'm
Starting point is 00:14:14 and it's that I sometimes I feel that I know, in that moment
Starting point is 00:14:19 he's he's the father of Susie and he says, look
Starting point is 00:14:24 why why make more you don't you There were many things, regalala, or terminate
Starting point is 00:14:30 to arreglarela, or tear it to the basura. In that moment, he said, well, and he says, to her husband, botala the basura.
Starting point is 00:14:41 And this sir agarra, but it's made more easy to get her a car and to get her in the almason.
Starting point is 00:14:49 There's the days, the same, the time, the time, all normal, but Susie seguia,
Starting point is 00:14:56 the having these these fears in the night. He said that for the nights, I was,
Starting point is 00:15:03 I was very very hard where the muke subia, where the womanica was present.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And she said, but the muke, yeah, she threw to the to the
Starting point is 00:15:13 bad, and he said to the person, and he said his husband, no, is that
Starting point is 00:15:18 no, is that not me did a time to try to the lastura, the I'm
Starting point is 00:15:21 in the emmace where you all the where you do you I don't. He said,
Starting point is 00:15:29 For favor, I'm so, I'm back to the last time the
Starting point is 00:15:37 he's to the house and a a lot of artifacts with she was
Starting point is 00:15:45 she was this structure the the muneakas that he was and he was he got a gritty
Starting point is 00:15:53 said, and you did this you did this? Alicia was going and what what happened?
Starting point is 00:16:00 Resulted that in the moment that this muke that was a
Starting point is 00:16:05 guardada had had two camions in the mejia like if
Starting point is 00:16:11 some some some some the but this was it was
Starting point is 00:16:15 a road so like the the moe would
Starting point is 00:16:19 have got in this moment says that Alicia
Starting point is 00:16:23 spant but in what moment passed they said, Tomarone a
Starting point is 00:16:28 muke, they were in a box in a box in their house, they're in these
Starting point is 00:16:34 palmitas that normally in the churches when when the Semana Santa. Semana Santa. Pask.
Starting point is 00:16:41 These Palmitas says that let them to the bolsa with some with some to bensir.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Ciaran the bolsa and they're they're botted to the basura. Alicia says that
Starting point is 00:16:52 was spantada how is possible that this a mukega had these marquins,
Starting point is 00:16:57 not these signs of lachry Alicia us about to finish this
Starting point is 00:17:03 story that you that was very night and it was and
Starting point is 00:17:09 in the there there many there many those
Starting point is 00:17:13 and the light and the sound of a syren
Starting point is 00:17:16 he he is a front and see that
Starting point is 00:17:20 there two ambulances there there police outside and a a lot of
Starting point is 00:17:25 people of the people of the people of what's what's going to and they they're going to
Starting point is 00:17:32 the policeia what is what's going and the police say no no no no pass
Starting point is 00:17:38 what happens is that we've seen the report of those of the that had been to vote
Starting point is 00:17:43 to a because they're because they heard they're because they're
Starting point is 00:17:48 but no no no there was a false alarm just we're only
Starting point is 00:17:53 Alicia termina this story saying us I know that
Starting point is 00:17:57 that was my little my little but really
Starting point is 00:18:04 we a situation to I don't I don't I don't
Starting point is 00:18:08 I was but really we know we what is
Starting point is 00:18:14 what all the time was in our house
Starting point is 00:18:18 what what opinion very interesting Paco and you
Starting point is 00:18:22 I don't know, this I'm the attention the of the last time the surco that's well,
Starting point is 00:18:31 I know the case, I know the case, I'm sent down photographs, it's a person that
Starting point is 00:18:37 in the Union American, work in a company is secure. You know, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:42 you know, so you know, the house, if you have something something something
Starting point is 00:18:47 something, I'm a, I'm this person, and says, no I'm going to say, in what
Starting point is 00:18:54 city, Santiago or nothing, but this was in the Union American, and he took those photographs.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Resulta that, well, get to the company of and says, oh, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:05 you know, he passed the indendio, and the only that was much was the thing, but
Starting point is 00:19:10 you know, I have the products for that that came like new, and you take your
Starting point is 00:19:15 cellon as you. But there two mucas that were done of that security,
Starting point is 00:19:21 And those mukees for the umo that are all tisnadas you know is like
Starting point is 00:19:28 all those black of the car these two mukees but they were
Starting point is 00:19:32 clearly the two mukees like when the when the man is that
Starting point is 00:19:38 that's that they're playing in the world and they're and
Starting point is 00:19:41 they're and they're so so they're marked as the
Starting point is 00:19:46 lagrimas the last were it was the only blank that there was in the car because it was
Starting point is 00:19:54 the tisne that was the humo that was in the thing he said imagineate Santiago these
Starting point is 00:20:01 these mucyas these and what what was what was they were in a
Starting point is 00:20:08 a little that they started to get to hearer but I'm going to
Starting point is 00:20:12 look at that photography to I'm going to let's make
Starting point is 00:20:16 clearly how see the surco the muces like they're yorando during that indiannion. There are much
Starting point is 00:20:22 phenomena, you know, different mukees and mukees experimented. For example, so
Starting point is 00:20:29 they're much that they know, some of that they're like the little, other of that
Starting point is 00:20:34 the cabo and they think the things, they're not they're not inexplicable, so
Starting point is 00:20:39 that's, you know, but right right that I mentioned what before before
Starting point is 00:20:43 to talk to another story of the of those of antiqued
Starting point is 00:20:48 you have, you're important, that much a few times we've done in a bar,
Starting point is 00:20:53 and we know we know to know who someone or somebody and it's my abelite no,
Starting point is 00:20:59 no, no, he has been the sure that has been the , you know, in a cemetery,
Starting point is 00:21:04 in the city Saltillo. Platicando with a sepulturoer, he me platicue this case.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Resulte that they are going exhumed the of a woman, well, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:14 those puros those were those are insured and they those are to translate to
Starting point is 00:21:19 a other property to a other cemetery into the house
Starting point is 00:21:23 so but fiat that this attaute where was the
Starting point is 00:21:27 little the person the person, the person, the would be
Starting point is 00:21:33 a nephew he he he he had a
Starting point is 00:21:36 not where the products that were in the
Starting point is 00:21:40 house that there had sentenarios there had some
Starting point is 00:21:45 there Well, he was there he was there present and cotechando with his, with his o'clock. Oh,
Starting point is 00:21:52 see, look, three centenaries. For one of an example, this, a rosario of this, this is all.
Starting point is 00:22:00 We'll get in the restos and we're going to insolos because we going to go to the pantheon
Starting point is 00:22:05 to another in Saltillo. So, then they're in the ferretro imagineate so many years in the
Starting point is 00:22:12 humidal, it they're in the sun to to be to see and mandan to this
Starting point is 00:22:17 person says, oh, well, you know, well, you know, I think
Starting point is 00:22:19 that's ataud yeah, that's aft, so that you're this
Starting point is 00:22:24 person, he's a new under the atou. He said, he's rarro,
Starting point is 00:22:30 because the sir, he came, he was, he had a, he had, in,
Starting point is 00:22:35 so, so, what they had put to to that person, I said, they were,
Starting point is 00:22:40 they were, they were they're so, and they and all of that. He said, he's strange
Starting point is 00:22:44 that this aniel not stubier inventiated. Well, he, he, he,
Starting point is 00:22:49 he, he, he, well, well, it's going to do you go to sell,
Starting point is 00:22:54 he'll give to his spouse. And so, and this manil, and he said, me he's, he said, me
Starting point is 00:23:00 he's, he's, he said, oh, well, so I'm good, and so,
Starting point is 00:23:05 he said, oh, and the first night, the, the, the, the,
Starting point is 00:23:08 she thought that the a pesadillas, but really, she appeared a woman at the feet of her
Starting point is 00:23:15 and he he had a man, this, then I was the poor wos. I said,
Starting point is 00:23:21 and she was, and he said, he was of her, of her, to her, he was her
Starting point is 00:23:27 handio. And so many days. So, then the, the, the, the,
Starting point is 00:23:33 the, you know, you know, is that, is that, it's a woman, and me said,
Starting point is 00:23:37 it's suyo, that's he's is his, but, but, what's suyo?
Starting point is 00:23:40 What, what's he regress? This person immediately said
Starting point is 00:23:43 the an thing. The an thing. Ablo with
Starting point is 00:23:46 a person more more of more ed in the pantheon and this
Starting point is 00:23:53 person he said, you know, you know, you know, you need to recover the
Starting point is 00:23:57 handio and to give to this person and to let to put
Starting point is 00:24:02 to to come. Well, well, well, this person with this
Starting point is 00:24:08 person with You know, so he had regalado the husband very emotionated and he said oh,
Starting point is 00:24:12 you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, says, oh, you, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:17 well, you know to the policeia, he said, he said, he goes to the police
Starting point is 00:24:21 and resulte that the morrachito so, and you know, and he said, even he said,
Starting point is 00:24:26 he said, he said, the $200 pesos that he did, but more we're we're just
Starting point is 00:24:32 he had the an manio. Now, I've to investigate to where they've
Starting point is 00:24:36 have been the rest of that she's he investigated and he went to
Starting point is 00:24:43 the pantheon he went with the tomb he's a little he's a little
Starting point is 00:24:47 he said and he gave the handio and he he he he
Starting point is 00:24:53 was going to what was what was happening in the house with
Starting point is 00:24:57 her and this question of this question of this
Starting point is 00:25:01 this we know we now to the story
Starting point is 00:25:06 of these mukees, Paco, fagate that me gave the of a
Starting point is 00:25:12 little of a little that she a woman that no she gave
Starting point is 00:25:18 a a new a man. Of the the nada. She let tell you
Starting point is 00:25:23 let you let me I'm a beautiful. So the little the new she said to
Starting point is 00:25:28 say to his papas well, more than her that the muke
Starting point is 00:25:32 was that was a man that was to get to
Starting point is 00:25:35 the house. As it's a many times not we think
Starting point is 00:25:39 to the kids. But a little a nine of five years
Starting point is 00:25:43 not to inventing a story of right. Well,
Starting point is 00:25:47 what was here? She she said that the muke
Starting point is 00:25:52 that was that they were that they didn't that she said.
Starting point is 00:25:56 And well it was that the mom no he
Starting point is 00:25:59 but the mom started to know that the little
Starting point is 00:26:03 she was I had dormita to go to the school,
Starting point is 00:26:07 battalial much to start her and they started to make a ojera to the
Starting point is 00:26:11 little certain muttones in now so now so that in the
Starting point is 00:26:18 the little like someone that somebody and then I and the
Starting point is 00:26:25 mom decided to tell to the mother let's let let's
Starting point is 00:26:29 let's let let's you know you know you from her so I've got this muke
Starting point is 00:26:37 with her. I'm trying that has nojera that no doorme well and yeah continually comes to
Starting point is 00:26:45 our recamara but the sir don't know when she has been dormied and the sign where she
Starting point is 00:26:50 wanted she to get to be to where she's that the muke me want to make sure.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Well as a thing incredible Paco or in an occasion says the husband
Starting point is 00:27:00 we're just we're going to start atent in the madugada no as a movie
Starting point is 00:27:04 of terror you can how this muke is a little to the little
Starting point is 00:27:08 the room it's that's she she she she was she was
Starting point is 00:27:12 the she was she she then then then the men
Starting point is 00:27:18 so the man the she had a crucifio
Starting point is 00:27:23 grand and they am a marran in this
Starting point is 00:27:26 crucifio and the man in that in this moment
Starting point is 00:27:30 the the says oh yeah I didn't adder Santiago
Starting point is 00:27:33 the muneka and I know you know you don't you
Starting point is 00:27:35 know you you're but really it's the yeah
Starting point is 00:27:40 when they're when they they're when they're and it's when you
Starting point is 00:27:45 see clearly how it's like it's like a
Starting point is 00:27:50 black of this a woman well the little the
Starting point is 00:27:54 little she she when she when she she was she was
Starting point is 00:28:00 with with many that are the people who had been balling
Starting point is 00:28:03 around of a fogata and that they're and that they're making
Starting point is 00:28:06 to the little is what the is what the little she is
Starting point is 00:28:13 that I imagine they were another that type of ritual
Starting point is 00:28:17 exactly but they're and they're and it's and he's
Starting point is 00:28:23 a person that was a person that that's that's
Starting point is 00:28:27 that's that's that many many we know what is
Starting point is 00:28:30 the intention of the people when they're a great, and we're that's
Starting point is 00:28:36 one of the elements most important in the world of the magic is the intention.
Starting point is 00:28:43 If no there's intention in what you want to do you do do you
Starting point is 00:28:45 do the work of the and it's the question not to know
Starting point is 00:28:50 to know to give us these these the thing is many
Starting point is 00:28:56 many the people and this I don't know, because there's a great quantity of cases where they want
Starting point is 00:29:03 to make the mal to a family and the form more viable that they're giving, is giving a a child of the
Starting point is 00:29:11 family or a little to the family, because is the the vincal more vulnerable and more easy, you
Starting point is 00:29:16 does a beautiful and they're they're never going to disconfirututably are, are people
Starting point is 00:29:22 are very in the people, so infeperience, his youth in all their innocence and they're all that
Starting point is 00:29:28 work to the family. Amigo, I want to tell a story and a very, for favor, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:29:34 ask you a story that I want to talk for me, for Paco, is one of the stories of the
Starting point is 00:29:41 mukees malditas more the world and no exagerer. Of fact for me
Starting point is 00:29:48 this he's a anabelle and a many many new mukees famous.
Starting point is 00:29:53 And it's a story that not is famous because that until the day of today, is tormenting a
Starting point is 00:29:59 woman that can't desacare of her. I want to tell the history that we're Miriam.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Miriam is of Tepostlan Morelos. This pesadia initiated after four generations with her
Starting point is 00:30:13 vis-abuela and she she has a story that's a much that comes from
Starting point is 00:30:20 his-in- and that to the time to her is tormenting. She says that her vis-abweller, when he had 16 years,
Starting point is 00:30:31 was casted at the force with a granger. That was a very great. And that was casted at the force, that his family, he got an accord with the family of the grangero, and he did a ceremony for, to casers. At the few days that they're casan,
Starting point is 00:30:52 they're embarrassed. Very rapid. So, something that said the vis-abuela, that me call much
Starting point is 00:30:59 the attention, is that she, she's she's she knew that the baby
Starting point is 00:31:06 was going to be a little. And so, I think that's a little,
Starting point is 00:31:12 it's a little, it's I've seen, and I see that is a
Starting point is 00:31:17 little. And in the nightes, the vis-abuela was to do
Starting point is 00:31:20 and caric about his vintry and he had her
Starting point is 00:31:24 her so that he put a name he put Leonora so that
Starting point is 00:31:31 was to be the name of her and why I go to say because
Starting point is 00:31:36 all complete the six months of her she suffer a
Starting point is 00:31:40 spontane rapidly they they they're to a center
Starting point is 00:31:45 of more certain unfortunately was quite and she
Starting point is 00:31:50 was also she was suffering. At getting, the only that
Starting point is 00:31:53 could do you was to be to be to be but the baby
Starting point is 00:31:59 that was a child, not she could save. This woman
Starting point is 00:32:05 began to have lapses of depression very very the
Starting point is 00:32:10 family of his husband he had given various
Starting point is 00:32:14 regalos, cunas, juggetes, between them, a moñeca, a moñeca of some 50 centimeters that had a peculiarity, had a cabello real,
Starting point is 00:32:27 it was a trap, but he had many details that's very beautiful in encahes that they
Starting point is 00:32:35 don't see. Moñitos, had two coletas, and a looka a lot little.
Starting point is 00:32:41 The history us says that this woman after after the trauma of
Starting point is 00:32:46 to get to refuged in this muke at the this
Starting point is 00:32:53 she said that this was a this was a child said that for the
Starting point is 00:33:00 nights I that was the cune and that was
Starting point is 00:33:05 a baby and at the was the so she said that
Starting point is 00:33:13 was her his daughter communicating with her from her from her and she was sure that her
Starting point is 00:33:21 her in matter she went but in essence she had had had been
Starting point is 00:33:25 so so she decided nomary with the name to this this
Starting point is 00:33:30 muke and she then passed those years and this
Starting point is 00:33:37 she was her missabuela gave to have more children and
Starting point is 00:33:40 in total He got to have seven but no I'd have to nobody to talk to the monneca
Starting point is 00:33:45 nobody because it was very special she said that not was a a juggette that was
Starting point is 00:33:51 her family and he said to his children is her mother take all respect
Starting point is 00:33:57 he passed the time passed the years and the his mother and the
Starting point is 00:34:01 mother he was he was to put the name the honor
Starting point is 00:34:05 and in the The fact of Meworthy He said He said I'm going to I'm going to
Starting point is 00:34:14 I'm a very special I'm I'm going to take you to your honor the moñica
Starting point is 00:34:21 Cue dula because not is a toyette not a mokeke normal there
Starting point is 00:34:26 there's the essence of your mother that has the same name
Starting point is 00:34:30 you Cue Cidala not let to the mother he said
Starting point is 00:34:39 that she was he was growing and as for maldition when
Starting point is 00:34:47 he's he casedo he got embarrassed but exactly it was the same
Starting point is 00:34:55 to the six months of so leonora pierde to his first his
Starting point is 00:35:00 that too he was a man then then this this senior, as
Starting point is 00:35:06 her mother came in a depression very very and
Starting point is 00:35:09 they're and they're in the muke. But the things are putting a little
Starting point is 00:35:16 more more tenebros because the family and the people that the
Starting point is 00:35:24 people that the people who had had been a baby. Without
Starting point is 00:35:28 the the people were on the car that were very
Starting point is 00:35:32 passed very very peg to the house, they said to hear the of a
Starting point is 00:35:36 baby a recent and the people said, but if they're they're
Starting point is 00:35:41 a new? How is possible that's that's there's there's and some
Starting point is 00:35:46 and some and they were to be who were who was and they were the
Starting point is 00:35:52 only that they in a sofa was was the the muke
Starting point is 00:35:56 the the man the the person to have
Starting point is 00:36:00 to get much fear. Inclus, there was people that moved
Starting point is 00:36:03 of the house because they were a little more more related
Starting point is 00:36:08 to the satanism. They said that this monoeia was posseid.
Starting point is 00:36:12 But this lady, Eleonora, the that had the man, said that
Starting point is 00:36:16 no. That was there was now in this muke, the spirit of one
Starting point is 00:36:23 of his brothers and one of his one of two almas. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:36:30 no one. So, it says that the senior has to fared to the muke that no that nobody
Starting point is 00:36:36 that was that he even had in his court and he had strictly prohibited
Starting point is 00:36:42 that his other kids would have and they were passing the years
Starting point is 00:36:48 and this she was envegecing getting also a point very high
Starting point is 00:36:55 in his age as his mother decided that this muke
Starting point is 00:37:00 pass a man of her wife Ophelia. Ophelia was a
Starting point is 00:37:05 case different. Ophelia accepted the mokeke but when he accept a
Starting point is 00:37:10 no there's a with her mother and that we talk about the third
Starting point is 00:37:16 generation Ophelia receives the in a recipient like a way
Starting point is 00:37:22 very very similar to how we we're here to our we're
Starting point is 00:37:26 here to say that when he receive, the take and the guard and
Starting point is 00:37:31 the back to the room. Not was like with the other generations that were
Starting point is 00:37:35 in a place with a little bit of no. She she said, okay,
Starting point is 00:37:41 me la I'm going to get. Then she took a first daughter, that is
Starting point is 00:37:46 Miriam, the person that's that person to make this she said that she had a little
Starting point is 00:37:54 because a a little bit of the camera and only saw the rostro of this muke but that when she
Starting point is 00:38:02 had eight years her mom came in a profound depression because when she had
Starting point is 00:38:08 eight years her mom Ophelia she got embarasada of two gemilitas that
Starting point is 00:38:15 that's that unfortunately also they were on a part spontaneous in this
Starting point is 00:38:21 occasion not in the first was in the second but But were two. It was the
Starting point is 00:38:27 murder of two babies. And Miriam us said that his mom after that this
Starting point is 00:38:33 occurred, no know why he, she, he got the man, she was
Starting point is 00:38:38 she was she was in an altar and he started to and he had a
Starting point is 00:38:45 much fear and she is that I don't know why my
Starting point is 00:38:47 mom said my my mom and my mom this man is your family. Dentro
Starting point is 00:38:58 is your family. And she had eight years. I said it's that I don't understand what I'm here
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Starting point is 00:39:59 For what? It's a big dog. SAP Conquer helps your business move forward faster. Learn more at Conquer.com. With what? No, I don't comprehend that. No, I don't comprehend. But he'd down much fear.
Starting point is 00:40:11 He said that the moke had an appearance very extrana that even when she came down, I felt that with the vista, he was going to. But that his mom, Ophelia, no, they'd be to be able to be. but Miriam
Starting point is 00:40:25 I said I sent a rechazzed to her I don't look to see her but
Starting point is 00:40:30 it was a manned that I didn't because I said I had pesidias
Starting point is 00:40:35 where I sawing that I sawmbras that for the nights me caused
Starting point is 00:40:40 or even even even even spiritually of me and when
Starting point is 00:40:45 I opened the eyes always sentada around to me
Starting point is 00:40:48 was this muke like she was that she
Starting point is 00:40:53 Rechasara So he said They were passing the years I'm I'm my mom
Starting point is 00:40:58 I've got more my mom I'm more and my mother Ophelia when yeah I was in his leech
Starting point is 00:41:04 of death to talk to me and me he said what he he said a part
Starting point is 00:41:13 of today Leonora will be your and I said no moma I don't
Starting point is 00:41:19 want that my you know you know that's you know never me
Starting point is 00:41:24 I called the attention all the contrary me caused much a lot of and Ophelia
Starting point is 00:41:30 he put to cry her mom he said he's that is you it's too it's
Starting point is 00:41:36 you're you're to accept the baby no is a one of
Starting point is 00:41:41 any that's our family there there are your
Starting point is 00:41:45 your and and you and say that his mom
Starting point is 00:41:50 he did he in in the in the and you say,
Starting point is 00:41:55 I'm not I'm going to be a peace he's for compromise
Starting point is 00:41:59 he said he's okay my mom I'm I'm going to get to
Starting point is 00:42:03 the moke and he said so my mom so he
Starting point is 00:42:08 felles and from there Miriam who is the person
Starting point is 00:42:12 who is the person that this moment I I'm
Starting point is 00:42:18 I kept with the man but you know
Starting point is 00:42:21 what really me aterra, Paco. You did you something a little a little a little
Starting point is 00:42:25 so much it's like that's nothing. Miriam intent to get the muke
Starting point is 00:42:32 only only like she chumusk not he was he was he took the muke
Starting point is 00:42:39 to the busura more than three times and a
Starting point is 00:42:41 sometimes I said that that the wasuer so he
Starting point is 00:42:44 but pass they two times and the nothing
Starting point is 00:42:48 the The muke, incredibly, and if, in form inexplicable, the mukeable, the muke was back to her house. She wasco desacers of many forms.
Starting point is 00:43:01 She gave him two occasions. A one of them a collectionist, because the muke was very antigua, had a cabillo
Starting point is 00:43:08 real, and the collectionist her regress also to the few days. She is can't, she,
Starting point is 00:43:15 and is art, and Miriam you say that I know, that I no, I don't like I go well, she has rejected, that no I want and the last
Starting point is 00:43:24 that's Miriam is, Paco, I'm 32 years. No, I'm embarrassedado. No, me want to embarrasser, because I'm sure that in the moment that I'm embarrassed, I'm going to get a my son or my
Starting point is 00:43:37 daughter, as well, I'm going to pass with my generation. He says, I don't know how much I'm going to want to, no see if I'm but I don't want to embarrass me
Starting point is 00:43:47 because I'm sure I'm sure that I'm going to get to my baby he's
Starting point is 00:43:52 for my family my missabuela my wife and my mother is a
Starting point is 00:43:57 a family good that aber alberga almas of the family
Starting point is 00:44:04 for me has a demon because the most that has
Starting point is 00:44:09 passed is that has that I have heard I've heard
Starting point is 00:44:12 for the know is what is the most loco, that
Starting point is 00:44:17 like there are four yantos like if were four babies that are the same
Starting point is 00:44:23 time, I know what I'm what I'm what I'm says. That's what this
Starting point is 00:44:32 this chick has a fear to get the to get to be for the temor
Starting point is 00:44:37 no? There have been cases Paco where the
Starting point is 00:44:42 families have submitted to this type of Ceres. I know
Starting point is 00:44:46 the case of one of the muke of Pascuaro, that they're regalant, and they're going to do with certain things. It's a muke great, that I've got my power, of porcelana. They went and they
Starting point is 00:44:59 were trying, and the father of the family, he'd go to her to the basura, and said, no, he's, because they can't do this muneka. I mean, they were
Starting point is 00:45:07 to, they were to, they were to their, to their own to their and it's been passed nothing.
Starting point is 00:45:13 But the family was like see that right me said that I said that
Starting point is 00:45:18 me that I'm that I'm this this man I'm
Starting point is 00:45:21 let's see the many many many many people
Starting point is 00:45:26 for example the case that he adopted like
Starting point is 00:45:31 she was like she was this one this
Starting point is 00:45:35 this case is of a one of a
Starting point is 00:45:37 one a one that his his desvibio. They, the property that
Starting point is 00:45:45 they were in a ranch. The young, he said to his mom, always he said, Mom, Mom, juram, that if a day I geto to move, no, you're going to
Starting point is 00:45:55 enterer in the ranch. Jure me, for favor. Okay. So, he was a woman, he said, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 00:46:01 no, it's a man, he's this, this young, this young, so this young, he'd no, there,
Starting point is 00:46:08 no, only property was in the ranch and decided in sepultar there. The
Starting point is 00:46:16 she made a promise in the tomb of the son of the little he was
Starting point is 00:46:23 to get to get to and bring to the pantheon to the city. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:27 He said got so my desperation Santiago, that in a occasion, a
Starting point is 00:46:31 sometimes I said, I don't need a great ritual to invoke to invoked
Starting point is 00:46:35 to invoked. She in a time he said he'd would be
Starting point is 00:46:39 the car my of the other he said, I'm going to going to
Starting point is 00:46:44 start to get things immediately in my house so I'm
Starting point is 00:46:46 I'm I'm I'm repented totally I'm the man
Starting point is 00:46:50 the name the alit in a in a market
Starting point is 00:46:55 on a with the intention to give to
Starting point is 00:47:00 the niet immediately the rechas of the the
Starting point is 00:47:03 nie the the he no no I want that
Starting point is 00:47:06 that is a point important the the Rechazo.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Exactly. It's super, it's an alert. Sure. That much we're not we're not. And if me
Starting point is 00:47:16 costed so much money, how he's going to be going to be to do it. Well,
Starting point is 00:47:22 resulta that the nieta and the daughter adopta, I think, I think, that that's
Starting point is 00:47:29 that's a new new to do you know to use. Okay. So, he'd be to work
Starting point is 00:47:35 at the time the food, he was sent him. Santiago, I don't let me go in a place and amece in another. One day, fiatte, me it
Starting point is 00:47:43 and he'll be it, me it presteau more well. Me it was to ask you had prested to a, a little, a little, a little, Santiago, and how is the alito? Me it's a fin of a
Starting point is 00:47:55 second of a month for a plattiga that I did. This, Santiago, and how is the alit? Well, sir, and how is it like, like if it was a child, and when I was he said, the Lune
Starting point is 00:48:08 he's the one of the morning. Oh, and me I'm about three times.
Starting point is 00:48:12 And I'm to try to the alito and he he's a really like if were a
Starting point is 00:48:17 little there's a little bit that I'm at the three of the morning this and
Starting point is 00:48:23 I'm in my Chevy and he put me and it's like when somebody no cabe
Starting point is 00:48:29 you know you know they're like they're like they're like so I'm so I'm
Starting point is 00:48:32 certainly that I'm that I'm the alito no no cabes or what what's
Starting point is 00:48:39 but there's this type of situations how these these
Starting point is 00:48:43 these so these manipulan to these people and
Starting point is 00:48:48 I think I was like the she like the she in that in that
Starting point is 00:48:54 a to his his his for so he he he
Starting point is 00:48:59 I'm that I'm that is a case that I
Starting point is 00:49:03 personally I have done there people I the
Starting point is 00:49:07 the The, the dolor of a father when I get to his son is inimaginable. It's one of the disorders
Starting point is 00:49:14 I think more more more fertes that a human can experimenter in this life.
Starting point is 00:49:19 But that that's the same is what it's what it gives to to be a
Starting point is 00:49:25 kind of a refuge in in juggetes. A sometimes there is a case
Starting point is 00:49:32 very rapid before you tell your story. There a
Starting point is 00:49:35 case that one a person, a father, he had his his little son, Ruben.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Ruben had a in this case, the vincal was with an oso of peluche.
Starting point is 00:49:47 The little little was a little of the little and he
Starting point is 00:49:53 had a little with the little. The little unfortunately a
Starting point is 00:49:58 time while was in the patio of his house the patio in front
Starting point is 00:50:02 playing while his Papa lavable his vehicle. An auto
Starting point is 00:50:06 with a person that had in an little in
Starting point is 00:50:09 the he was I'm I'm a man the
Starting point is 00:50:14 man an instant. The father obviously destroyed destroyed
Starting point is 00:50:20 in a little in his heart his and
Starting point is 00:50:26 he didn't find the consuel and what he
Starting point is 00:50:29 had the was his his his that his his
Starting point is 00:50:34 he was he had to all over all the he was in the manita to be
Starting point is 00:50:38 up and to and this man he he started
Starting point is 00:50:43 to get a little with that he I was I
Starting point is 00:50:47 put to and this is a story that I am
Starting point is 00:50:50 I'm I'm about the man I and I said I
Starting point is 00:50:54 was that I had the and it was the part of my my
Starting point is 00:50:59 boy there the problem was a the time
Starting point is 00:51:03 because this man started literally to this peluche
Starting point is 00:51:08 like if were his his his the problem
Starting point is 00:51:12 is that here there something there there there there
Starting point is 00:51:18 there is a negative that there there there there
Starting point is 00:51:23 there can come to make a a back
Starting point is 00:51:26 and this and this but the amazing is that this sir
Starting point is 00:51:33 no he was a lot and more to think in something in a lot he's my he's my
Starting point is 00:51:40 he's like something that's not so it's so per custom it's super normal not
Starting point is 00:51:46 he's accustomed to this what you think you see that this Paco is is real
Starting point is 00:51:53 this is real this of this vinkul because many I'm I'm going to
Starting point is 00:51:57 go to go to of my prima or of my primo and you they're in the cobigita with a mono
Starting point is 00:52:05 of a perritte because it's, he, I've lived with with sobrinous that's
Starting point is 00:52:12 a first mono of peluche and not they're not that's a perrito or that that even if
Starting point is 00:52:19 they're going to the house of the bula the the little have to get to
Starting point is 00:52:23 get to the house because if not no no he doorming form
Starting point is 00:52:29 that vinko imagine that's well faget paco there's
Starting point is 00:52:33 there there's new new new new new ones that
Starting point is 00:52:38 have made the she maria um a one
Starting point is 00:52:45 a a oneke the a womane and the
Starting point is 00:52:48 and the no don't have no they're they don't come
Starting point is 00:52:52 in times are new yeah the one she
Starting point is 00:52:55 the one she the and the and the man in
Starting point is 00:52:58 a Tienda of Mascay, right, the muneco very beautiful and all.
Starting point is 00:53:03 But she had a pair of a pair of in your house in the house. I said,
Starting point is 00:53:09 well, the relation with these the new, he said, no, I
Starting point is 00:53:14 always I always always I always, I'm so I'm in the house,
Starting point is 00:53:20 I'm in the house, at a rato I'm going. It's it was all. Dice,
Starting point is 00:53:24 then then I'm to this muke Simona I bought and I bought the muke. So,
Starting point is 00:53:30 I had two pairs of the new ones. The old and the new ones. He said, but my
Starting point is 00:53:36 nieta always was always with the newos. And Tita, present me your muckees,
Starting point is 00:53:43 my ha. No, present me those you. Well, but me let me in the
Starting point is 00:53:46 recamara when I don't me don't me let's no, but the nietta
Starting point is 00:53:50 and I was, and she'd not know that the nita she not
Starting point is 00:53:54 didn't to get to to play to her house. And Tita, present me your mukees and
Starting point is 00:54:00 present me a Simona. And then she noticed that no. And he asked a little,
Starting point is 00:54:06 he's, oh, why you not, you don't, you know, a Simona and the
Starting point is 00:54:11 mucke. He said Simona me pega. How that's okay? Simona
Starting point is 00:54:19 me peg, and the other onee he said that no, but Simona me want to get to
Starting point is 00:54:24 and yeah the she had had a son, I mean had a
Starting point is 00:54:28 son, he said, but Simone says that he said Maria. The
Starting point is 00:54:33 name Maria, the name Maria is the oldita. So,
Starting point is 00:54:37 she said, is that oldita me said, Simona me
Starting point is 00:54:41 said, Maria. And, and well, well, then the little, yeah,
Starting point is 00:54:47 yeah, that's much, that didn't enter to the recamara
Starting point is 00:54:51 of the oldita. So, the senior maria agar his muke to
Starting point is 00:54:58 simona and those put together with the family that he had used and he's put
Starting point is 00:55:05 and he he says you're going to get here and not going to go to get to
Starting point is 00:55:12 this apartment because they're a my nieta and I don't
Starting point is 00:55:17 those I'm they're they're those new simona and they're
Starting point is 00:55:20 those new simona and the muke were the new
Starting point is 00:55:22 imagine to the day next Paco, what do you think what
Starting point is 00:55:28 was something something something that he she she she
Starting point is 00:55:32 she she a but no does but he
Starting point is 00:55:37 does do he he do and the day
Starting point is 00:55:40 the two the two many those were invited
Starting point is 00:55:45 those two two two two two mukees antivus
Starting point is 00:55:49 had the head rancated. What thing? The actually I have the
Starting point is 00:55:55 photos okay and the and the woman I'm going to get to saffar
Starting point is 00:56:00 how they're going to saffar and the and the two two new the
Starting point is 00:56:05 pair of the pair of the and the muke and the little
Starting point is 00:56:09 that she was the she used with the carbe after after and the other muke.
Starting point is 00:56:19 So, reactionar. So, so it's like a menace Santiago. So, for me
Starting point is 00:56:26 is a menace clearissima, no, of this you can occur to you. Uh,
Starting point is 00:56:30 I'm, I mean, they're they're never, I always I've said that in a
Starting point is 00:56:34 box black and three nudes and so so, so, uh,
Starting point is 00:56:38 of, uh, to get the to put those and so give them don't be to believe,
Starting point is 00:56:44 but when you started I was the in the mukees of that
Starting point is 00:56:50 box because I said that so me those don't if I don't know
Starting point is 00:56:54 this yeah they were part of the collection this it is
Starting point is 00:56:59 like when you say Paco that that black and there there is
Starting point is 00:57:04 something that you ater into the box that
Starting point is 00:57:08 so I sentia I sentia when I'm when I met
Starting point is 00:57:12 the when I know that you I don't have a Cervient
Starting point is 00:57:17 I'm a lot so much fear of the same that's the same even though
Starting point is 00:57:22 I'm okay I'm not I'm not a lot of there's I'm having I'm having
Starting point is 00:57:28 with that that bolsa interesting is so I so I so I so I'm
Starting point is 00:57:34 so I'm so I'm think you in cabina I'm always I'm a my name my
Starting point is 00:57:41 that's a story of terror was of a woman that is 15 years,
Starting point is 00:57:47 there's a lot of a little a little a little that's a no, the second
Starting point is 00:57:54 when I saw this when I saw this a mucke that was a lot of that's
Starting point is 00:57:59 like that I'm like that I'm that I'm that I'm like that
Starting point is 00:58:05 me like me like I'm like I'm to who to I'm
Starting point is 00:58:09 I'm you I'm you and the and me those don't but I
Starting point is 00:58:16 don't know the photos that's important how how they're feeling
Starting point is 00:58:23 celos now Simon was the that she was the because the little
Starting point is 00:58:29 she said that simona he pegaba Santiago in that case I mean it's a
Starting point is 00:58:35 case a particular because normally we normally we normally we we
Starting point is 00:58:39 sometimes or situations of a type of a linkable with something. It can be a mortal, as a
Starting point is 00:58:48 kind of an entity of an astral or even a demonio. The objects that were a part of
Starting point is 00:58:55 some type of a rito, some type of conjure and even in an altar consagrado
Starting point is 00:59:02 to do. But when are you new, because you think you think you could be
Starting point is 00:59:06 that could occur that? Look, many Paca, me has talked to
Starting point is 00:59:11 go to go to and in cases and in investigations that you encounter
Starting point is 00:59:15 certain rituals, right? And you and you say, why these rituals,
Starting point is 00:59:20 this is like, for the abundance, ah, is that the house
Starting point is 00:59:24 have various mouleries. Or they're many various things.
Starting point is 00:59:30 So, so they do this type of rituals for that's so
Starting point is 00:59:32 they're so so you don't I don't know that the grand fabricants have their
Starting point is 00:59:42 own for that that that that that's a muke functioned, for that that you
Starting point is 00:59:46 love to the children for what I know what I know I don't see I think that maybe
Starting point is 00:59:53 can be can pass this. It is the most I think the most probably
Starting point is 00:59:58 no that there people that in this affan to have a
Starting point is 01:00:01 more success. Recurran to this type of practices, no? Amigo, I want to tell one ultimate story. Uh-huh. That this story is very interesting because I'm
Starting point is 01:00:12 to ask you, because this not is one that me share. It's the story of a muneca that has a little of a little bit of a fama.
Starting point is 01:00:19 I don't know if you've heard of the unneeku in Japan. This is very peculiar. This occurs
Starting point is 01:00:27 in the year 1918 in Okadio, Japan. A young Eikichi Suzuki Hecchi Suzuki he
Starting point is 01:00:36 a muke for her mother. Her manita of two years that had a
Starting point is 01:00:42 very advanced advanced. So he for a mode of consuel he gets
Starting point is 01:00:50 this a muke that is a classic Japanese that has even
Starting point is 01:00:55 a short with a flequito quite peculiar the peltit
Starting point is 01:00:58 he had more or almost like to the ombros.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Very beautiful the muke. So when your brother's when your
Starting point is 01:01:05 manita generally generate a vincal with her. Trails the manned to
Starting point is 01:01:13 all the whole all the so it he put his name. So
Starting point is 01:01:17 she gave to the muke or Kiko like the little she
Starting point is 01:01:21 unfortunately in some moment I mean I go I'm the
Starting point is 01:01:26 story was a story was a death very repentine. It's
Starting point is 01:01:31 the story that one he's a time to have
Starting point is 01:01:35 to have to get to get to get and he took
Starting point is 01:01:39 a complication with his and he was a
Starting point is 01:01:43 life and they they they make an in
Starting point is 01:01:48 a house where they put their and a
Starting point is 01:01:53 mod how how that so he's and with the that he moved
Starting point is 01:02:01 practically in his hands or Kiko and she kept on his altar but
Starting point is 01:02:06 he was to pass something very very peculiar the the little
Starting point is 01:02:11 he began to grow so he before the he had he
Starting point is 01:02:16 had to the arm and with the past of the
Starting point is 01:02:19 months they did know that the the little
Starting point is 01:02:22 began to get to the and the Cable is growing
Starting point is 01:02:27 and creasing and and and the family of Okiku a mode of Ritual
Starting point is 01:02:33 one once a month they they had the they're so they
Starting point is 01:02:39 they were to think that the spirit of your other again we'll
Starting point is 01:02:44 get this time was in his muke then then they
Starting point is 01:02:49 they said that there was she was they're and they're
Starting point is 01:02:52 happy because this is supernatural of that cabello
Starting point is 01:02:57 cresca of a muneca was something something something about
Starting point is 01:03:02 with the years and the questions of the second world this
Starting point is 01:03:07 family this family did and a way to maintain
Starting point is 01:03:11 to a man and so is how they
Starting point is 01:03:15 they have a temple in Japan to the
Starting point is 01:03:17 temple Manenji so it where also again years
Starting point is 01:03:23 before, I'm to mention to a data important, Monges Buddhists
Starting point is 01:03:27 confirm that the presence of the woman was in the muke. So this
Starting point is 01:03:34 family and then the muke to the temple Amanenji in
Starting point is 01:03:38 Japan where actually is and the interesting of this is that
Starting point is 01:03:46 this history is a very very but is very
Starting point is 01:03:50 famous in Japan and many curious, they're and decide
Starting point is 01:03:55 visit her because there there's until the day of today. There's in a
Starting point is 01:04:00 vitrina. They say that no they don't love to the people that they
Starting point is 01:04:05 take photographs but the people that have been in a month of January
Starting point is 01:04:10 and they're on a June July you they're
Starting point is 01:04:14 found that the muke has the hair more there
Starting point is 01:04:18 people that have seen that have seen to some monjes they're
Starting point is 01:04:22 they're they're they're they're they're they're they're other
Starting point is 01:04:25 other other people other people who are sure that the manniquet
Starting point is 01:04:32 the she's with the mind he has he gestures with the
Starting point is 01:04:36 eyes they they're they're even there people that have
Starting point is 01:04:41 seen that this this muke or a book
Starting point is 01:04:45 and like they he's the language and they
Starting point is 01:04:48 see dintes so is something something. It's a muke
Starting point is 01:04:53 that you have seen the image in this moment for some people it's
Starting point is 01:04:58 a lot and not a lot beautiful but for some people is a thing more
Starting point is 01:05:05 associated a thing demoniac a opinion what you think you
Starting point is 01:05:10 see fiat uh antivably pacco uh he they were
Starting point is 01:05:15 to make to make the image of the same of the a little of the that were the
Starting point is 01:05:21 mucket. And the cabello was the way of the same a little to give you
Starting point is 01:05:26 to give to give to give the car the families that had that had money
Starting point is 01:05:32 not, they could do this. But what that's no? Yes, yes,
Starting point is 01:05:36 so definitely I think this, this, this of this essence that can
Starting point is 01:05:43 get to and so there are many stories, many stories that have
Starting point is 01:05:47 these mukees almas atraped there in their interior because I think they go are in vases
Starting point is 01:05:53 also for brusheries yeah fiftate that I got to get a a new yearnice
Starting point is 01:06:00 after a just a penas of actually I'm I don't I'm put I'm
Starting point is 01:06:06 I'm going to let's have to be primisia much thanks thank this this muke
Starting point is 01:06:10 now now that now that started this new year is the
Starting point is 01:06:14 second she's her regal a muke. So, his abuelita he gave
Starting point is 01:06:19 a new a new that that's that they're going to go to the vacations
Starting point is 01:06:21 20 days? Yeah, more or less. Well, the little.
Starting point is 01:06:28 The little the baby has said, and the muke the reolot
Starting point is 01:06:32 your old your said, he said where is where she is a
Starting point is 01:06:37 guardada? The little she was a bottle with tap and he
Starting point is 01:06:41 he's he's okay so not just no the rumbo
Starting point is 01:06:45 for there No, I wask a botte with tap, that's to start to start her
Starting point is 01:06:49 that's okay. And so, but why he's Moma? It's that the
Starting point is 01:06:54 munich is that the manned in the nightes. Look, when
Starting point is 01:06:59 me this this this muke me they me they're they're
Starting point is 01:07:02 they're they're not the little to be his one of six years
Starting point is 01:07:07 the little you've seen how was ater not
Starting point is 01:07:12 he could take photo or video for respect. So,
Starting point is 01:07:14 I'm the moke to the muke to the muneka not is a one of the unyka
Starting point is 01:07:18 no, no, no, it's very beautiful, the it's
Starting point is 01:07:21 to be the character of the little when I'm when I'm trying
Starting point is 01:07:28 in the muke, when we're in the studio, and the papa
Starting point is 01:07:32 he said, yeah, my this, yeah, he's he's going to be
Starting point is 01:07:34 here, he's to be to get to I'm to the man, he said,
Starting point is 01:07:41 he said, he's he put first up but in the night's she she
Starting point is 01:07:45 was she she was she back the she back and she and she
Starting point is 01:07:50 and so amnice in the cell the muke because the first
Starting point is 01:07:55 when the mom said no and you don't go when the
Starting point is 01:07:58 night with the you let you let's in the house and you don't
Starting point is 01:08:04 and in that I'm talking with her and so the first the first the
Starting point is 01:08:10 the new six years me he said and I ranke the a caja of the voice,
Starting point is 01:08:15 because he's a little. I mean I'm supposed they were in songs. But the
Starting point is 01:08:21 little he ranco. No, I didn't say about. Yeah, he said,
Starting point is 01:08:26 I said, I said, I'm he said, I'm in the man, he said,
Starting point is 01:08:31 he's got, and it's got a a car of terror and I said, but how
Starting point is 01:08:37 you saw the muke, he said, me did me did the did the d' and I
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Starting point is 01:09:24 you're saying, the fact of the fear in his, in his eyes, that temor, no, to say,
Starting point is 01:09:32 I saw the I saw the muke movers. What fear, there are many, there are many, there,
Starting point is 01:09:39 that a At least, I mean I've passed also ultimately, Doña Kande, is a a
Starting point is 01:09:47 senior that lives in Houston, but hebe there's there in an hegid that's called
Starting point is 01:09:54 the rosa. A she does much to go to the tenses to buy
Starting point is 01:09:59 mukees and old. That's then they do they do they said, look,
Starting point is 01:10:05 Santiago, I went to see to see a time and all. Well, me regal
Starting point is 01:10:10 a muke in your in your caja well yeah no more I'm just
Starting point is 01:10:14 I'm the part of the top of the car okay a muke this very beautiful
Starting point is 01:10:20 she she when she she saw the car in a in a in a
Starting point is 01:10:26 Houston of that that there says that this well
Starting point is 01:10:32 it's a well it's done a puras families rich and with
Starting point is 01:10:36 and with what They're out of the ventas help much to the migrants. Oh,
Starting point is 01:10:42 that no I'm going to pay the loose, that I don't want that's for this,
Starting point is 01:10:46 and there they're they're they're all the donations are the families
Starting point is 01:10:51 rich. Well, that that was she had seen, she had had
Starting point is 01:10:57 the she had the money, and she said, then she did, she said,
Starting point is 01:11:00 he said, no, well, yeah not, and it's, and like
Starting point is 01:11:06 all month, there was the muke. And decided to buy her. Decide to buy
Starting point is 01:11:13 and he said she the American the American she said the American, I asked, that where
Starting point is 01:11:21 was the was the muke? That's why he not he had said, he said,
Starting point is 01:11:26 and that the American he said, no, no, no, me said the American
Starting point is 01:11:29 San Diego, and she he's he he said, he said, he's
Starting point is 01:11:32 they've just that they've been and the regress. And, and the money reclimate. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Fiatty, what curious that's a phenomenon, amygo, of the things, you try to do you, you know,
Starting point is 01:11:46 you're going, you're going, you've seen, well, this, this is not in the juggetes, it's,
Starting point is 01:11:53 I've seen, in the workes of , that, uh, it's very complicated. The way
Starting point is 01:12:01 that was what happened, this was when they got a brujeria of one of the cases of my family and he
Starting point is 01:12:07 they'd alcohol and only like the first time like the like the lamarada but there
Starting point is 01:12:13 it's consume it no no it's there only with oration literally with orations
Starting point is 01:12:20 derraming asate ungid that is like the water bendita it's like these
Starting point is 01:12:26 these things these objects these objects they can't only only of
Starting point is 01:12:30 that way because if it's complicated you, why you for what you for what you think
Starting point is 01:12:36 a minute that's this orations and all this can function Well, we know that the
Starting point is 01:12:41 orations is an arm very powerful. And me has to fittes, me has
Starting point is 01:12:46 in parras there's a hospital the hospital Gualupano attended for for mongas
Starting point is 01:12:52 and they have brought brugery and they have brought and the
Starting point is 01:12:57 man of the person of the her man Marioce and he said
Starting point is 01:13:01 mother, is that they're a mugrero, a gillina and all right. And so, yeah, the hungry,
Starting point is 01:13:08 with dandita gasplina. And no, no, see, no, until she's
Starting point is 01:13:13 to make a oration. And apart, who, who, who's, who's a woman
Starting point is 01:13:19 consagrared to God too, much more power, too, and says, it's of the
Starting point is 01:13:25 form that can't, these, these things. There, there are certain orations
Starting point is 01:13:29 very powerosas Paco, also in the water and the water of
Starting point is 01:13:32 certain places in front of the burghry fiat that there there are things that
Starting point is 01:13:38 even in the same Bible we have there are there there's also
Starting point is 01:13:45 in the Catholicism that according the stories that are
Starting point is 01:13:48 quite effective like like the magnific certain times
Starting point is 01:13:53 the repeat also the same that is one of the most
Starting point is 01:13:57 Firtes. Of actually, uh, already the set that we relatively is new.
Starting point is 01:14:03 We're starting you, with your participation. You know I'd like to thank. But one of
Starting point is 01:14:08 the things that we plan we have is a Bible with the Psalm 91 because
Starting point is 01:14:13 of a repent, we think we we're going the time, to talk to these
Starting point is 01:14:19 things, to tell many stories, because are many stories, visit,
Starting point is 01:14:24 of some people, that they're very to the thing of the magic
Starting point is 01:14:28 and all this, like it's going to be cargating every a little more and
Starting point is 01:14:32 a little more. So we we're doing the form of purification more these areas, not,
Starting point is 01:14:37 where they do they sometimes in some situations that there no, no,
Starting point is 01:14:42 no, no, there's no, but if the conversations are very
Starting point is 01:14:46 very fertes. There's people who even the person, the or the oration really
Starting point is 01:14:51 really really really really They say, the satanical, the oration has a lot of power. And only as if you're like this type of situations. How do you know what you're
Starting point is 01:15:05 going to do, Santiago? Very well, very, very, so, like, always to be to be always with you, it's a pleasure. This, of, I don't me, no, I'm, I feel like we're doing, me, I'm seeing a charla
Starting point is 01:15:14 of quates, so, right? This, always, very, very very, very, very, I've said, Paco,
Starting point is 01:15:21 this, you, too, I also, you've I've said like a padrino for me, no,
Starting point is 01:15:28 that me you've used in this world of, the podcast and all this, that I'm the first
Starting point is 01:15:33 on invite me, the which I'm also, and that also your public me has accepted quite well.
Starting point is 01:15:41 Well, it's an honor for me to be here, Santiago, I also I've
Starting point is 01:15:45 also said much many, for me you're the great voices of the
Starting point is 01:15:48 mystery, of the terror here in Mexico, of your honored for your visit.
Starting point is 01:15:53 I know that much people you know we can you know your
Starting point is 01:15:57 networks and so far so far so far in all the platforms in all the platformes
Starting point is 01:16:04 there's there no again again thank you thank you thank you again also
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