EXTRA ANORMAL - Transcomunicación instrumental Ft. Yohanan Díaz | NoEsNormal.tv

Episode Date: March 9, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 For a limited time at McDonald's, enjoy the tasty breakfast trio. Your choice of chicken or sausage McMuffin or McGrittles with a hash brown and a small iced coffee for five bucks plus tax. Available until 11 a.m. at participating McDonald's restaurants. Price excludes flavored iced coffee and delivery. Welcome to No. No. No. It's normal. The space where the inexplicable, to make form and the paranormal, it's become in our reality. This night, we're submerged in a phenomenon so inquietant as fascinating, the transcommunication instrumental.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Aluna ever has heard voices in a radio apagated? Has casted messages in a
Starting point is 00:01:06 gravation that not when press you play from the first experiments
Starting point is 00:01:13 with psychophonies to the testimonials of who are sure have been the more
Starting point is 00:01:19 the more to be through radios televisories and computers and computers the
Starting point is 00:01:23 transcommunication has been a point a mystery between
Starting point is 00:01:27 our world and what isconnocid. Today explore we stories of persons that are sure they're
Starting point is 00:01:34 contacted with other dimensions at the technology. Casuality, interference, or proof irrefutable
Starting point is 00:01:43 of that we don't we're soles, adjust the volume, apag the lights and prepareate
Starting point is 00:01:48 because this night the signal can come from more less than what you imagine.
Starting point is 00:01:54 You're ready to hear what you don't do you to hear. Comeensamos.
Starting point is 00:02:02 As you have a family transcommunication instrumental, a thing quite important, interesting, that I
Starting point is 00:02:10 think in some moment all the great majority has toped with being a moment
Starting point is 00:02:17 at solas, start doing a lot, especially a telephonic, and
Starting point is 00:02:22 you de la nothing you, you're that said your name or you've
Starting point is 00:02:27 that not had a reason to be there. This night we're going to talk of this mystery that really no decafascenar to the most sceptic. For this night,
Starting point is 00:02:37 I want to present a person very special, a great friend, a person also that's a person to talk of the thing not-humano, a person that I
Starting point is 00:02:47 am sure that all you know, my friend, Johanand-Dias. How are you? How are you? How is, Paco? How are,
Starting point is 00:02:52 I'm good to salutalos. Much thanks for the invitation, Paco. And the second You know, you can't be here in your studio. Much of thanks,
Starting point is 00:02:58 my friend, for being with us to be very happy when when they're going to visit to here. I know,
Starting point is 00:03:04 I know that much people who knows, you know, you know, you've been many years in television,
Starting point is 00:03:11 creating content for different media, but for if there a person that you know, first time,
Starting point is 00:03:18 I'd like that, for a present, your projects. Sure, much thanks,
Starting point is 00:03:22 Paco. Well, I mean, I'm in the Insolita Experience if there's my program that has
Starting point is 00:03:28 since the 2013, 2014 that I'm in YouTube as it's an insolita experience is
Starting point is 00:03:35 in arroba Johan and Diaz and just three months I've a new podcast that is
Starting point is 00:03:40 Enquendros Extraordinarious where you yeah you've been for there yeah exactly
Starting point is 00:03:44 was Fepo Apenned the last was just just you haven't seen this interview
Starting point is 00:03:48 is alucinate allusioned all what the experience that the experiences that
Starting point is 00:03:53 Extrances in Spotify and YouTube. So, so I'm going to be there very al-pendient. And, well, so there we're always always generating information of this thing that many times
Starting point is 00:04:02 the people think, is that it's your job. No, it's a passion. 100. It's a passion. Oh, my God, the thing that we're trying to be
Starting point is 00:04:12 to be honest, I know a little until a time back when me, when you talked to your experiences, as a
Starting point is 00:04:22 great razzos for the audience, you've an approach with that you're going to
Starting point is 00:04:28 you're going to you're going to but I'm really much the attention because we're not we're
Starting point is 00:04:34 we're doing podcast the people that people that listen these podcasts know that there are
Starting point is 00:04:40 that there's that in that minute it's that in that minute it's it's like
Starting point is 00:04:45 they say a word how that it's a lot and a sometimes it has
Starting point is 00:04:50 happened that is so nitida the voice of the person that even one of the first was so clear,
Starting point is 00:04:57 so nitied and so that the person that's in production, Hasiel, annota the minute,
Starting point is 00:05:04 and says terminand now so where we're not we're going we're about canals,
Starting point is 00:05:10 microphone one, microphone two, microphone three, microphone four. So, we're going to hear, first we're
Starting point is 00:05:16 to hear the audio and there we're to be in what can't the audio.
Starting point is 00:05:21 So when we're we're looking the channel, check we're channel one, no there. Channel 2,
Starting point is 00:05:27 no was there, channel 3, no, there was, channel four, no was there.
Starting point is 00:05:31 No, entered in any channel individual, but, entro in a whole,
Starting point is 00:05:37 entro in the messla, there was the phrase or the risa, and, the really, I'm,
Starting point is 00:05:42 I'm, I'm impressed to be, I'm it's impossible, well, the that I'm
Starting point is 00:05:46 impossible, that enter a voice, but of no micro apparently, but if it's
Starting point is 00:05:51 in the mix. In the mix of the two, the four canals, but in the
Starting point is 00:05:56 manner individual, no, so we're not, then we never, we know,
Starting point is 00:06:01 we can't, but much people there also has heard, no, it's that
Starting point is 00:06:05 it's that's that's that's that's the term, transcommunication instrumental
Starting point is 00:06:10 for your CSI, let's give the concept, that, well, is a
Starting point is 00:06:15 series of instruments that can be they're they're for example there's what
Starting point is 00:06:23 yeah we're we've mentioned when we're when we're investigations, that is the Spirit Box that is a radio
Starting point is 00:06:31 that you capture different and so all signals AM and FM and infrequences to receive to hear
Starting point is 00:06:38 or some message there's also there the people that in the telephonic they're that
Starting point is 00:06:45 they're flitran certain voices The, I mean, the most impactant of those are the Panthers, that many times, and for there, investigating it a little, how in the HIS, in the
Starting point is 00:06:55 Pantaya Gris, where it's all, you can't receive in that Rewood Blanco, and even, even, can't be images that can't form an image?
Starting point is 00:07:06 I mean, there's many things. You can us can't say of that, you know, that is a world that's a time that's always
Starting point is 00:07:11 has given the attention to the humanity, but at the long of the time, not only only only just just of just
Starting point is 00:07:16 decades after. No, this comes from this is much time
Starting point is 00:07:18 because the vincal because the thing of the people and the time and in different different
Starting point is 00:07:25 cultures, it was a way that's a way normal and he was a lot of years,
Starting point is 00:07:33 Paco, amigos of the auditorio, the religions always were infundient me. You portas
Starting point is 00:07:38 bad, you're going with the demonio. If you portas well, you're going to
Starting point is 00:07:42 do your things, you're going to do you go to do you go to no, well, you have your bullet
Starting point is 00:07:46 assigured out in the, in the Parasio. And then we're getting much fear in the theme of the murder. There are you
Starting point is 00:07:53 to record that many philosophers, much investigators at the long of the history, Paco, us have
Starting point is 00:07:57 said, that the thing that has been a pessimistic is the murder. In the past,
Starting point is 00:08:06 the old cultures, when someone yeah, I'd to get this plan to go to the
Starting point is 00:08:11 gods or the emidioses, it was a honor. It was a spectacle tremendous and a bendition for the family of who said, I want to advance me in the way. But we're getting to 2,025 and we're
Starting point is 00:08:23 a matter of that we're the only that we're sure we have. A part of this that I've mentioned, always the person human has used the tools, the instruments, to communicate with the more there. Entendienting the more than a place where
Starting point is 00:08:39 would be all the persons that desencarned, yeah in an accident, be the maybe for a murder
Starting point is 00:08:45 natural or for an adult, or because it's said something in the life of
Starting point is 00:08:49 that you did it. And when you get to that's a more yeah, it's
Starting point is 00:08:54 able a kind of possibility is tremendous because we're
Starting point is 00:08:58 we're just you, you, you, you, you, you,
Starting point is 00:09:01 you there's a station of the more that is the more
Starting point is 00:09:06 that is the person, it's like, it's like if it was a special of station
Starting point is 00:09:11 of radio to be able to to communicate for a car, and you that's you that's referring,
Starting point is 00:09:17 that's to have to give to give an authorization for that those people or those
Starting point is 00:09:22 energies can communicate with their people, you met the solicitut and to do you
Starting point is 00:09:28 know, depending for what is the objective, what is the reason, what is the reason is
Starting point is 00:09:34 the repercussions that can't I'm doing a panorama general to gozlozando little to a little.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Sabian you guys that we're in these moments that in the time when a person
Starting point is 00:09:46 fallece there are occasions that's that have communicated via telephonic or they have a call
Starting point is 00:09:53 and they're saying yeah me go much thanks no no there's that's like oh
Starting point is 00:09:57 how it's I'm going no it's direct to the no it's because it can't
Starting point is 00:10:05 a lot of potency for yamal of a way and that they use much energy
Starting point is 00:10:10 to generate a sound because no there's a chord bucales. So, it's an
Starting point is 00:10:15 energy concentrated that and for so are two three words, but that the moment
Starting point is 00:10:21 that the person, the testigo that's that can be of an abolito they can
Starting point is 00:10:25 be of your mother or of someone or of someone who you're that you're
Starting point is 00:10:29 going to you're so, so you that's all that you just to be more
Starting point is 00:10:35 just to be that person that person that that's a person that's that's the word the word
Starting point is 00:10:41 that's that's the way is, I'm doing. What you think you're you know
Starting point is 00:10:48 the time that I'm that I'm going to talk here in the sense of that I'm prepared a time
Starting point is 00:10:54 so the thing is the TSEI but there a sub-tem that I'm a story okay
Starting point is 00:11:00 you did it the clavo because the story is called I'm okay so so
Starting point is 00:11:05 so that's but but go to Russia, bet to Argentina, States, here in Mexico, there's a
Starting point is 00:11:15 question to ask to the people to say, to the Mongolia, to where you want to do you want to be,
Starting point is 00:11:19 all the message is, I'm doing. I'm very. There's a story that we're a much time
Starting point is 00:11:28 yeah, more of two years here in the channel, that just I did it
Starting point is 00:11:32 for this night. So that's the title. I mean, more or less know
Starting point is 00:11:36 because But here me interest something that you mentiones much, a man, one person
Starting point is 00:11:43 mentions that for a person normal, a mortal, normal, see, that something that's not
Starting point is 00:11:49 that's a lot of, you know, you're gonna , you're you're gonna, or you're probably
Starting point is 00:11:55 , probably on your car, and you hear you in the word, a word,
Starting point is 00:12:00 a phrase, you know, you know, and you say, you're going to a
Starting point is 00:12:05 important, I see that it's inevitable not to have but a sometimes is important to know why
Starting point is 00:12:13 is a phenomenon because you know what you mentioned is probably maybe be a old friend that you
Starting point is 00:12:20 that was thinking in you that was that in some kind of parted of this world terrenal
Starting point is 00:12:25 and he occupied a little power or a little power to give to an until an after
Starting point is 00:12:33 a little a message even even even a But you, obviously, not you're always not you're accustomed to,
Starting point is 00:12:40 you're scared, and you know, because always, culturallyly, always we're saying, if it's a phantom,
Starting point is 00:12:47 it's a bad, is the demonio, is the maligno, as the we want, but always we're saying,
Starting point is 00:12:53 but really it's malo when they're those energies or those spirits or or those entities or
Starting point is 00:12:59 those persons that we're coming to say, stay, stay, tranquill. I'm going to
Starting point is 00:13:05 put a case so brief and if you want to get it's more a little it's in many
Starting point is 00:13:11 in many many many presentations that I had in the Republic Mexican there was a
Starting point is 00:13:16 person of Mexico that I had all the conversations but I said
Starting point is 00:13:20 well or has well you have much money or he interested much
Starting point is 00:13:23 the thing but but always terminated the constant
Starting point is 00:13:27 me I'm Johanan help me for my sposo,
Starting point is 00:13:31 has a year and I need to communicate with him. What I'm to do?
Starting point is 00:13:36 I'm with who I know you have you have much so you like these things,
Starting point is 00:13:41 help me to contact with my husband. I said, but this not that that's like that you
Starting point is 00:13:46 make you make you, oh, how it's, that's not that's this not this.
Starting point is 00:13:51 This is this no functioned to that this way. And I he said, look,
Starting point is 00:13:55 look, with this, it's that it's that it's that, it's that it's that he said,
Starting point is 00:14:00 well, until the last I said, well, what you what's the what's the
Starting point is 00:14:02 what's what you're going to be it, I'm going to talk about, I'm that I'm
Starting point is 00:14:08 like that's that's not, that's not going to the communication with the more if it's
Starting point is 00:14:14 to get to produce in first there, there's many, it's multi-factorial. Debe
Starting point is 00:14:21 to have visos of veracity is that when you do you do you do you
Starting point is 00:14:25 when you do a little or you use some a tool to communicate
Starting point is 00:14:30 with us more a lot of those visors of veracity are those elements that at the maybe to
Starting point is 00:14:36 you say with a pod in specific. My gortito. Exactly. My chulito. Something. But that
Starting point is 00:14:44 only you know, but you only there's words, then you say wow, it's
Starting point is 00:14:49 true, it's he has a your aboelito your man, no who's who's
Starting point is 00:14:54 who has done, and with who you want to who you when the
Starting point is 00:14:57 when you say when you when we stood in that place, tal, a year, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:02 you're saying, oh, that's true. Those are the visors of veracity. When we get in that aspect, what is what
Starting point is 00:15:10 you see? You want to talk about a communication like if we're talking in this moment and I
Starting point is 00:15:14 reiterate, this not so not. Much of it's going to be a through the time,
Starting point is 00:15:19 much sometimes it's going to present to the more of physical that they're
Starting point is 00:15:22 that are to be the forms less, but that can be front
Starting point is 00:15:26 to you and that can give some message or or the other is that
Starting point is 00:15:31 they're going to bevers the objects to your around, but that you know that you know,
Starting point is 00:15:35 that you know, or that's the perfume, the aroma of the person that was, or you
Starting point is 00:15:42 heard, look, with Lourdes us passed one of a bit, we've been, well,
Starting point is 00:15:47 recently had had fallen a one of her, you know, they're in Mexico,
Starting point is 00:15:51 the family of her is in Spain, and, well, no, no,
Starting point is 00:15:55 So, all was so, so, so, no, no, there the
Starting point is 00:15:58 way, no, there's a way, that way, and so, uh, and,
Starting point is 00:16:03 well, in that, in the, in the, in the middle of the lourdes, uh,
Starting point is 00:16:07 well, then that, of that of that, of that, dolele, I remember that was a
Starting point is 00:16:15 morning, Saturday, for the morning, and he says, well, accept, that you've been,
Starting point is 00:16:21 that's been to be very very, be to the light, and, there, a series of
Starting point is 00:16:24 words. But at the last, he said something I want you know that you're saying that's good and I
Starting point is 00:16:31 think that in some moment I hear the the song of Chiquitita of Adva. And I said, well,
Starting point is 00:16:39 it's fine, you're in your I'm sorry much, but yeah we've done. So,
Starting point is 00:16:43 we've done to do some of the center historical, yeah were six and a
Starting point is 00:16:48 time, yeah we're just we're to get to the car, and the
Starting point is 00:16:53 Repent, the organillers, these people who are with the Cajas quadradas there, begin to toning the song of Chiquitita. Okay. I, well, when we're just going to
Starting point is 00:17:04 let me look at, what what you mean? So, are messages, no? That's fine. That where where it's been, the energy,
Starting point is 00:17:14 the spirit, as we want to get to a point where it's good, where you know no, there's no there's
Starting point is 00:17:22 where no there's there's there's they're in, but they're always they're
Starting point is 00:17:27 and when when we get them to visualize in many of the occasions we're
Starting point is 00:17:32 to see to be the people more more than if you don't have to get,
Starting point is 00:17:37 or an accident never we're going to never never never
Starting point is 00:17:41 never never. Always we always to be very very we
Starting point is 00:17:45 we're we're we're a bit and if we we get to
Starting point is 00:17:48 encounter in some a dream that we appear to despedes always
Starting point is 00:17:53 we're going to be going to be very, very content
Starting point is 00:17:57 and always saying it's my time and yeah me
Starting point is 00:18:01 I'm to it's very beautiful that also also that something
Starting point is 00:18:06 we mentioned about and that I've noticed I I,
Starting point is 00:18:09 I, Paco in the majority of when we
Starting point is 00:18:12 when the people have lived there there a
Starting point is 00:18:18 a phrase that is a repeat much with the people that are in the other world, in the other plan,
Starting point is 00:18:26 and that's communicate with the people with the phrase is no I have much time or
Starting point is 00:18:36 me gave a permission of a moment and so that's always and that me has impacted
Starting point is 00:18:42 much because I know with a person that I'm a credent I'm cataloged
Starting point is 00:18:47 creient in God, but at the same time I'm my mentality or my form of think very
Starting point is 00:18:53 critical, eceptica my mind, but my cause I think in a God creator, but also I'm
Starting point is 00:19:00 the mind of an investigator, or that my sesgo no intervenes in the, in the analysis
Starting point is 00:19:05 that I'm doing, but when I talk with this only only I'm a moment, or only me
Starting point is 00:19:11 give a permit a time, get the moment where me question or who give the permission.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Or how? Like, how? Exactly. It was what you mentioned minutes after. To be a
Starting point is 00:19:22 someone to get to give permission. That's someone. I always I've visualized to this way.
Starting point is 00:19:29 A little is an example very burd but I think we're going to get very clear. We're in
Starting point is 00:19:34 this third dimension. We're we're in liquid rogo for recorre our body and the normal.
Starting point is 00:19:41 We're going to this moment in these are you are doing this But I do do this
Starting point is 00:19:47 manner. When we just we have to start in this existence, we get to a lot of
Starting point is 00:19:51 a lot of that I'm a part that's a way to be to the airport is this dimension.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Cruas that way or that that airport and is the more there's the you can't
Starting point is 00:20:03 get to that you considerer like a kind of a person who I'm visualized
Starting point is 00:20:08 to understand it's I'm I'm a airport and still if not cruo
Starting point is 00:20:13 that I can regress. And it's, and they're going to transcends. Exactly. But there are others that say, if you cruises this line or cruises this door, yeah no there's regress. But conforms they're going to acercading to that door, who are sure they're saying they're in a grand pass, a tranquillity, an emotion of that
Starting point is 00:20:35 you're a house, but not is your house. In theory, but if it's our house, because of there we're going. Exactly. So So, the issue is that they're very very well. And there's
Starting point is 00:20:46 a person that can be identified like a family, a friend, or someone that's different,
Starting point is 00:20:53 that will talk to be to talk to the back, to be to be able, to do you
Starting point is 00:20:58 do you and you will say, no is your time, you know, you need to get to
Starting point is 00:21:03 like those like the airports. If not it's your time, you're going to do
Starting point is 00:21:09 what is the people, when I I go and I'm saying that no is my time, in this moment
Starting point is 00:21:14 I feel a great dolor in all my body. Because a person, a better something,
Starting point is 00:21:19 something, something, something, and in that moment and then he's in the camera
Starting point is 00:21:24 of the hospital, be to the doctor's around of him, and they say, we've
Starting point is 00:21:29 saved, he said, but he got with a problem tremendous, but he
Starting point is 00:21:34 got confused in that part between it was a reality, me did this,
Starting point is 00:21:38 no didn't, but the shock more when it's
Starting point is 00:21:42 when it's a family your and more more is when if it's
Starting point is 00:21:46 it's that it that's that you that's that you're that but it's
Starting point is 00:21:51 because imagineate that you that you know, that's that's that's
Starting point is 00:21:56 that he's you know, you know, you have to start with my thing, it's
Starting point is 00:22:05 an alivio and obviously a little time to hear that this stories and evidences, because for the
Starting point is 00:22:14 people that is there is a lot of we're having, we're going to one or one, we have a series of
Starting point is 00:22:20 psychphonies that you really need to you know when those I've seen you feel like a sensation
Starting point is 00:22:27 extrana no? It's, it peris the body. It's eris the body.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Some of those psychophonies in many of the occasions are buscated the majority of
Starting point is 00:22:37 them are the way fortuit let me say something, Paco, mygos, when I
Starting point is 00:22:43 started to to study, involucraming with the transcommunication instrumental, in those moments,
Starting point is 00:22:49 no there was a lot of 2005. It was a little information, but if there was.
Starting point is 00:22:54 And, well, I know a family Adrey, that were in those
Starting point is 00:22:57 in the decades in Toluca, in the state of Mexico. I'm going to
Starting point is 00:23:02 interview them and there was a thing that's longed during much
Starting point is 00:23:06 years, and well, they me communication. I'll comment rapid and
Starting point is 00:23:11 more a little and more we're we're we're we're going to
Starting point is 00:23:14 get to put in those moments were cassettes not a not digital that's that I'm
Starting point is 00:23:22 making about the 90s medial of the 90s was to have a
Starting point is 00:23:27 carette yeah out of 60 or 90 minutes but new new
Starting point is 00:23:32 and of and of all quality not of five pesos but
Starting point is 00:23:35 not the but the all quality so you put you put
Starting point is 00:23:39 in a And he put you to grab a one side, you'd have to a television that not had an antenna. And so produced a sound to the ruido
Starting point is 00:23:48 the noise blank that's exactly, that's. So, then then you subies to a certain volume, you had the other
Starting point is 00:23:57 grabator, yeah grabbing, you had, the microphone, and you asked a question, there's, there's
Starting point is 00:24:04 passing a minute. One minute, exact, you, you, you, you'd have to have the reloge. me
Starting point is 00:24:10 can't give a message passable a two minute it was there are five
Starting point is 00:24:15 questions no more no less five questions well when when yeah
Starting point is 00:24:20 so I was I had the I'm the I'm and
Starting point is 00:24:25 that and that I'm and then she made to digitalizing
Starting point is 00:24:29 in something in those times Cule Ed that now is
Starting point is 00:24:33 the Adobe Audition in in his first era
Starting point is 00:24:35 it's yeah it's digitalized. And the process more lent, more tardado, was that, to hear of one and other questions,
Starting point is 00:24:45 if there were a response. When, I mean, I started much time in that there were the first responses. Of course, I started to
Starting point is 00:24:52 receive the response when I just, I'm the idea of, no, I don't see, no receive nothing, and I think
Starting point is 00:24:58 that I'm doing the way the things, or this is a fact that I questioned and I said, now no,
Starting point is 00:25:05 I'm going to do, started to the messages. Messages that were, help me. So,
Starting point is 00:25:13 so like, so, help me. Always in those that I received were voice of a woman.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Never had a man. Never. Simply or the majority of them were an help me
Starting point is 00:25:26 or it's I'm but those that I did more more fear because I did in the
Starting point is 00:25:32 madruada. I was I went I regis to the university to the 10, 11th of the
Starting point is 00:25:37 night, I'd get to my house, senaba, and I put in a practice the transcommunication
Starting point is 00:25:41 instrumental. A me nobody me said, that no was so, that not all the
Starting point is 00:25:46 nights, but he got to me and me provoked a a dependency to be a
Starting point is 00:25:56 obsession, that's the word, it was an obsession that yeah in all moment I
Starting point is 00:26:00 want to try to the transcommunication. In that process I interviewed to
Starting point is 00:26:04 to the major experts in those instances of the psychophonies, phenomena, phenomenals, and that in those then, not were a lot of paranormal. Now, now, no. In the decade of the 90s, all were paracologists. There were, nothing, when you're saying, oh, I, I'm of the
Starting point is 00:26:20 paranormal, you'd say, no, that's no, that's no, that's no, it's not, it's not, it's no, they're paracologists. Okay. So, then I took the opportunity to interview to many investigators, and I remember that all me said, in the way
Starting point is 00:26:31 in the transcommunication. If you want a question, you're going to you're
Starting point is 00:26:36 then you don't know but you're first words and then were two words, then it was
Starting point is 00:26:45 growing to three words and socessively not it was a dialogue of much words,
Starting point is 00:26:50 not was an dialogue that I was a question and at the moment me contested
Starting point is 00:26:54 but it came the moment that he began to start the
Starting point is 00:27:00 messages me did the Fecha of when I'm my abel.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Me did the day the hour and fellesio as a quite. Me
Starting point is 00:27:10 started to say questions of what were in my family and and they
Starting point is 00:27:15 were what was to be to me and there. Here
Starting point is 00:27:19 the great question that I see I'm making Paco
Starting point is 00:27:22 people of the video is really really was
Starting point is 00:27:25 a person or was a malandr of those of
Starting point is 00:27:30 above astral that was playing with me. It's that's that's a question,
Starting point is 00:27:35 no, an an an a spirit human, like he want to
Starting point is 00:27:40 say, would be the power to say, to predec the future? A, what,
Starting point is 00:27:46 a malo? No, an an human a, so, someone
Starting point is 00:27:51 of a person who that's that, yeah, that's that he came to
Starting point is 00:27:55 that's that's that's that he failed that, but it would
Starting point is 00:27:59 a It's going to where what I understand, no. We're in the same. Because we're here. Sure. In the hour. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:28:07 It's like if we're in this quarter. And those we're going to know what's going to in the Casa Blanca in the States of, no, we're going to
Starting point is 00:28:15 know, because we're because we're here. But if you you now traciendes, then there's and you're back. And you're to get to
Starting point is 00:28:22 do your family to the more. There are cases. Okay. There are cases where regressan those
Starting point is 00:28:28 persons that were because in that count of a bank there's any
Starting point is 00:28:33 or in tal cajone you're to find the you're doing
Starting point is 00:28:38 or they're they're they're trying the testigo the
Starting point is 00:28:45 abelit that the abelite and this moment yeah and when they
Starting point is 00:28:49 when they get the house is incendium or that
Starting point is 00:28:53 you're you're you're doing something you you get a
Starting point is 00:28:57 entire a amount of information to do you a problem or the
Starting point is 00:29:01 work, to realize the work complete that was doing. It's
Starting point is 00:29:05 saying, but always there will be a intervention to that's
Starting point is 00:29:08 not always, that's that people that people say, that's that's a
Starting point is 00:29:13 mean, that doesn't mean, that's, but it's a quantity impressionate of cases.
Starting point is 00:29:19 To me the most me the most my attention, is when the
Starting point is 00:29:22 family is when the family's the, well, Terrenos, casas, or money in the bank,
Starting point is 00:29:28 and of a repent, he goes to that someone and he says, in that there's a time there.
Starting point is 00:29:36 So, it's for you. Wow. And yeah, it's all the problems, because they're
Starting point is 00:29:40 there's money, and that's all the thing, so the thing, that much
Starting point is 00:29:45 times are that many know, more than the testigo, the person that's the person that
Starting point is 00:29:50 has done, or simply want some those despidire of the children of the spouse.
Starting point is 00:29:57 That's a thing, it's a thing very confused because I think this is the part of what it's not,
Starting point is 00:30:03 you know, we're not we're not we're a discernment very specific if it's or very
Starting point is 00:30:11 developed but we're not to be a 100 in in, in know that what
Starting point is 00:30:17 is a demonio, what can be knowns like a humano. For that I said
Starting point is 00:30:21 that you need to be the visos of veracity when you when you
Starting point is 00:30:23 know you when you There are details that only you and the person that transcended or the other side, but if not there's there, you know, I've been to say, look, I've learned along of this Camino, of these years, because, well, me like, all the people who are the time of the
Starting point is 00:30:38 Omnis and the contactism. But in a first time, I initiated with the phenomena paranormal. I'mpec. I'mpecould with all this aspect of the parapsychology, with the transcommunication instrumental. To me, the second thing most important in my life is all
Starting point is 00:30:52 what has to do with the contact of us on the more than the more than the other and when
Starting point is 00:30:57 you see there are cases outtentical that are something that they have been made that's
Starting point is 00:31:02 but also there's there's then then we need us so and the question
Starting point is 00:31:08 that you do you ask you so it's so that you're that's
Starting point is 00:31:11 done response yes always when there the visos of
Starting point is 00:31:14 veracity when when percives the aroma of the person
Starting point is 00:31:18 that's that I have I have I have cases where the person and says, well,
Starting point is 00:31:22 is that an man of all the life and at the 50 years and he every time or every
Starting point is 00:31:29 third day was in my house and I was a manned a way very very characteristic. And exactly
Starting point is 00:31:35 hours after that he fellesio, he took and me took and me shiflo still.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Okay. I'll go running to see who was and there and no there. Nobody.
Starting point is 00:31:44 So, those are those are those are the visos of veracity. Or to me what I intrigue
Starting point is 00:31:50 is how, from the more way they're in a call telephonic. That's just exactly. I've got a
Starting point is 00:31:57 thing that has to be with what you have to mention. If you do you, we're going to get to
Starting point is 00:32:02 the first time. You're going to this in this in the real family not they
Starting point is 00:32:06 go. It's a badriss and over all, leave your like, for
Starting point is 00:32:10 for a for a for you continue recommend to this in- this in-
Starting point is 00:32:15 this in- this in- this are mentioned that's connected. Lourdes. A brazo.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Lourdes, thanks for to be with us in this transmission. Look. Ah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:32:26 so that so can't that's. I'm really. Uy, Uy. This theme, my,
Starting point is 00:32:32 is a, so, it's a question, of what it really, actually, if you can't
Starting point is 00:32:38 to be, the video, it's, it's like on the final, or, so,
Starting point is 00:32:41 dets of the time, there, like, there's, there's, the there's,
Starting point is 00:32:45 there's to be, to be. Okay. There's a reason. Ah, yeah I I saw, yeah, I see the eye. There's a person, a woman, that unfortunately disappeared.
Starting point is 00:32:58 It's like, like, like, he, like, he, came to, all of his family to look her, for all the sides. His brother major he gave messages
Starting point is 00:33:10 of WhatsApp. Yeah was the WhatsApp, when occurred this. And, And, well, for many hours, only was the telephone with, with a palomita, which means that you just went to the message,
Starting point is 00:33:23 but that no has gotten to the telephone. Exactly, so. So, so, passed much time, passed many years, more than, if at a case,
Starting point is 00:33:32 one or two days, equal, no, no, they got the messages, he got the report of a person disappeared, the mom of,
Starting point is 00:33:41 this chick, you're trying, no idea what was going, and so yeah, And his brother of
Starting point is 00:33:46 a point of the get the messages to get the like it's like
Starting point is 00:33:51 the sound like they're getting and they're getting and he rapidly
Starting point is 00:33:56 he's alerted and he does know the the messages yeah
Starting point is 00:34:01 they got and he appears an icon of the
Starting point is 00:34:04 famous icon of the letter that says he's writing
Starting point is 00:34:08 so so then so thank thank thanks to
Starting point is 00:34:11 my brother is good. And just mentioned in the message is, hello, pardon me, because I'm a mal-hermana, because I'm a mal-a-jia.
Starting point is 00:34:23 So, he started a, to give a message initial of disculpals, or so, of repentimient. And he he says, hey, where demonies are you? Where do you don't you are all with Jesus in the book? My
Starting point is 00:34:36 mom is very bad. You're is looking, manned the message and regress the message and he says,
Starting point is 00:34:42 I don't I'm going he's he's, he said, he thought he he's had
Starting point is 00:34:49 escaped with with the his novi because and they were, like they said for
Starting point is 00:34:54 here, he had noviating he had a newio and he began to and this
Starting point is 00:34:58 she started to clavar much with this chavo and said that surely you're
Starting point is 00:35:03 you're you can't you To discuss. To discuss. And she and she says, no.
Starting point is 00:35:12 No, I'm scape with him. But if he has something to be. Porfa,
Starting point is 00:35:16 you can't come for me? And is when he says, and he does like some coordinates.
Starting point is 00:35:25 And he says, look, get at you, I'm a taxi because I'm
Starting point is 00:35:29 in that place and he'll say, no, come for me. And he says, but why?
Starting point is 00:35:34 What is? What? What? So, you know, is in-cerned, and she will be to respond,
Starting point is 00:35:40 no, they're going for me. And it's when, so that's a reasoned much in your
Starting point is 00:35:44 mind, he's his pendent, he's still to give to his mom. Mom, no you're talking
Starting point is 00:35:50 with her, it's all that I'm and when he does the coordinates, he was a outside of
Starting point is 00:35:58 the city, very at the outside of the city, was there was there a pure carretera.
Starting point is 00:36:04 He gets, he stacioner how can and he he says, oh, where you're going and I'm
Starting point is 00:36:09 here, and what is here? And here there's a not, no, no,
Starting point is 00:36:11 no, there's there's there, okay, enter, for favor,
Starting point is 00:36:16 there, come over a vera, enter. And yeah, and he says, when you're
Starting point is 00:36:21 getting to a a piece, so, he does, he does, he does, he does,
Starting point is 00:36:25 he comes, and he he gets to where he he said, and he said, for favor,
Starting point is 00:36:31 you know, you know, you know, it's a broma, what's what's the past
Starting point is 00:36:36 because because there's a lot of the message that says pardon me because
Starting point is 00:36:44 if I tried but the person with the person more than in the
Starting point is 00:36:51 confier not was not a good I'm made much damage
Starting point is 00:36:56 for so I I said I'm that I just I want to let you
Starting point is 00:37:01 you guys that I'm the last message I'm And it was
Starting point is 00:37:07 when he They were He still He's still He's always He's always He said He said
Starting point is 00:37:11 But yeah He didn't He didn't He didn't He didn't He didn't He was He was
Starting point is 00:37:20 And he's And he's And he He's he's to get to And he He was
Starting point is 00:37:24 trying Amid Prendas of the Ropa of her Yeah He
Starting point is 00:37:29 He found his blusa He He or so it was, it was a, it was like a fadda, a-sapot, and he, well, he, was, he was very aterrower,
Starting point is 00:37:43 and until the final... Encontro the body. ...encontro the body of her, of her mother. Desvivido. Yeah. And the telephone was to a one side of her. But, the impressionant is that medically, that's, that was impossible
Starting point is 00:38:00 because the person that has the levantment of the cadaver and all this and the all, determine that this
Starting point is 00:38:08 body had exactly almost 24 hours, 24 hours of having fallen, so the
Starting point is 00:38:16 body was advanced and then he when he came the body of his armana was there
Starting point is 00:38:22 profaned because the type abus so. So it was something horrible
Starting point is 00:38:28 and of really when that story we told we've seen here in the channel
Starting point is 00:38:33 and precisely it's called I'm but it is impressive because justly
Starting point is 00:38:39 we mentioned in a moment what is the TSI how occupant the technology the grabators
Starting point is 00:38:45 the telephones but the applications the power to send a message of WhatsApp there's the
Starting point is 00:38:52 telephone Sure look in many in many of these occasions it's
Starting point is 00:38:56 that the communication with the most thing of the entire that is
Starting point is 00:39:01 people local, fanatica, and tonda. It's real and authentic this that I'm
Starting point is 00:39:05 saying, but when you're you know, that you know, it was going to
Starting point is 00:39:11 the media, the electronic, in all moment, you're messages from the
Starting point is 00:39:15 mass there, with the television, we're to the era of the internet,
Starting point is 00:39:21 and over all, it was a era of fax, because from the most,
Starting point is 00:39:26 well, a much many of you're in these moments are very
Starting point is 00:39:29 very have known what was a fax. It was like an impressora that
Starting point is 00:39:34 from a time of the world you send down a image that was
Starting point is 00:39:37 that was out of that was that was the fax. From
Starting point is 00:39:43 the mass they were messages written or images when
Starting point is 00:39:48 when came those beepbers were one were some
Starting point is 00:39:53 some some they were a operator and you have to give
Starting point is 00:39:57 the message communicate for favor and they put
Starting point is 00:40:00 oh yeah communicate for favor. And yeah the viper you
Starting point is 00:40:02 get a the message. And you have to make a because it's because it so it's
Starting point is 00:40:09 so it's so you get to get the message and you know. They'd messages
Starting point is 00:40:14 of the more than you know like what you just like we've got to get
Starting point is 00:40:18 to the website and the applications still they're still using using
Starting point is 00:40:21 the technology because it's the faculty has the possibility that no there's
Starting point is 00:40:27 there can they can't keep in communicate in want to be they're, if they're in they're trying to
Starting point is 00:40:33 send a message, well, imagineate through the applications, or a through some other mechanism electronic. Look, this
Starting point is 00:40:40 that you commented, now I'm going to talk to a, so I'm going to let me let's see, if you're in the state of Mexico, in the municipality
Starting point is 00:40:47 of the citypec, one of the most abitated to the Republic of No, no, no, this is one of those who
Starting point is 00:40:52 me did you to, no, no, no, this is other, or you want to no, no,
Starting point is 00:40:56 no, okay, this is, this is another, so, this is, This is another because
Starting point is 00:40:58 I'm I'm a right that you know that you're talking that you there's a time there's
Starting point is 00:41:06 there's there's many different for sofoke because it's incendio tremendous in the
Starting point is 00:41:11 serros that there there between the state of Mexico and the city of
Starting point is 00:41:14 Mexico. It was very very very they're to all the
Starting point is 00:41:17 municipalities to all the people the quadrilla that corresponded
Starting point is 00:41:22 who me gave this testimony me said that
Starting point is 00:41:25 they were going yeah of the serro, they were very very
Starting point is 00:41:27 hours to start working, trying to suffocated the zone where you they're
Starting point is 00:41:31 going to and they're getting to the part of the part where they had had been the cars
Starting point is 00:41:39 of the bombero and they started to a woman that said they're saying they're not
Starting point is 00:41:45 they're doing they're not they're not they're here I'm but he he said he's a
Starting point is 00:41:51 voice of here here I'm and so they detubed well, who's there who is,
Starting point is 00:41:59 is a it's a it's a problem or that's, we're very we're not we're going
Starting point is 00:42:01 to get shh, shh, here I'm here I'm here I'm when he's
Starting point is 00:42:09 when he said they said a little someone someone he said something and they're
Starting point is 00:42:13 going to get around nothing nothing well they're they're going
Starting point is 00:42:18 going to go and all day next they're they're more energy
Starting point is 00:42:23 and all to continue in the process of suffocation of that incendio
Starting point is 00:42:26 for the madugada and they were going to and again the same voice here I'm
Starting point is 00:42:36 here I'm so then then it was when they said no this two two times
Starting point is 00:42:42 they started they started to look and they started to see and they started the
Starting point is 00:42:48 body of a woman the muchach the muchache had many
Starting point is 00:42:53 years yeah that had, no, yeah, no, uh,
Starting point is 00:42:59 if it had been because someone had had been an accident, that's yeah, no,
Starting point is 00:43:04 so I'm, okay. But there was the body of this woman, tell me, tell me how,
Starting point is 00:43:09 explain me how it's possible that that's more that, or, that she had got to that her
Starting point is 00:43:15 and that she was, but that energy that was cover, that spirit of us was,
Starting point is 00:43:21 was, uh, was, with the dependent of what going to occur with your body. And now
Starting point is 00:43:25 we're going to us other. If we're going to the medical, it's because we're because we're
Starting point is 00:43:30 not, imagineate that when, when, for an accident, you know, we're not we're going to
Starting point is 00:43:37 not a little bit of our body, then we're certainly we're going to be sure, for that's
Starting point is 00:43:42 for so, in the case of this story of I'm in that I'm that I'm talking,
Starting point is 00:43:48 that at least in the two you, it was for questions electronic or of application.
Starting point is 00:43:52 And in the case of me, and they were passing for there the bomberos and he said, that spirit, or that energy, solicit was the support for
Starting point is 00:44:01 that they're to get them their body and they're and they're to go to the family. That's great.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Look, look. I said, I received a call. I'm sure. The mom that's
Starting point is 00:44:13 never, after two times, that me about, I'll receive some calls and they're
Starting point is 00:44:19 precisely sule suede with the times telephonic is I think I think
Starting point is 00:44:26 where the most pass no look there there there
Starting point is 00:44:30 a investigator francis that was a Catholic that was
Starting point is 00:44:34 the father franzoam brum was one of one of the
Starting point is 00:44:38 public and he he he But here, the important or the relevant is not of that he has fallen,
Starting point is 00:44:56 but the brother is he communicated with him. And he said, I'm going to be. Yeah, me have to go. And yeah, it was my time. Tranquilus, I'm going. Wow.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Entro in shock. He was a sacerdote. And, and to get them that they're like, they understand, comprehend in that world between the
Starting point is 00:45:18 between the people and the people he was chocked he was he was he was involved with
Starting point is 00:45:24 the principal investigators of the parapsychology and he did a question that nobody
Starting point is 00:45:29 didn't an explanation and when he starts about that he does know that
Starting point is 00:45:35 many people in France in a first in a first time and then in other parts
Starting point is 00:45:39 of the world when when someone someone someone had had fallen
Starting point is 00:45:44 called by telephone to send us nothing more for that Wow You know
Starting point is 00:45:49 So then So in the We're in the Kind of What kind of What kind of Is? Look,
Starting point is 00:45:54 too There's There's a There's a Yeah, At a Atka In one
Starting point is 00:45:59 An occasion A message A young In one A occasion A message of a young
Starting point is 00:46:04 That was Private of his Libertat Me He gave a grand Impression
Starting point is 00:46:09 He said Telles that You know Pidid For me That Pid for them
Starting point is 00:46:14 Yeah The Family because the family suffrae the family suffered the period of the okay
Starting point is 00:46:18 or so he he's not they're not for him that's those messages no exact to
Starting point is 00:46:23 here here in this message that I said in this case that I said I was in
Starting point is 00:46:30 the republic Mexican and that came to talk to talk to that communication
Starting point is 00:46:33 with she she she was she she was to start to
Starting point is 00:46:39 to year to to year to until after practically the day the day
Starting point is 00:46:41 the day she had to to, you she was very demacred, palida, I mean, mal,
Starting point is 00:46:48 mal, mal said the person. And then after after of much time, uh, of a
Starting point is 00:46:55 repented it appeared in one of the conferences to make that he had put in contact
Starting point is 00:46:59 with a person that she did he did you know, what was the message of the
Starting point is 00:47:03 person? I'm I'm doing. Yeah no me you're doing you're doing. That's all.
Starting point is 00:47:11 And with that, when I I did new to the woman she had she had
Starting point is 00:47:16 a black and she was a blacked because the only that was that was
Starting point is 00:47:21 to hear of that he and understand that he was able in the place where he
Starting point is 00:47:28 was and the person was to go up and that good
Starting point is 00:47:32 but not all the people get and they get to
Starting point is 00:47:36 that that communication and the and and over all
Starting point is 00:47:39 Fugate, when yeah, yeah, or for an accident or for different circumstances of the life that disappear in the
Starting point is 00:47:50 world, the only that the person is what's the what's, where is your body? If you
Starting point is 00:47:54 did you did you find your body, for us to be being, but you
Starting point is 00:48:01 know, but you know, you know, you know, but it's there where they're going to
Starting point is 00:48:07 start this, all this that now it's the way that are the phenomena
Starting point is 00:48:12 where the people at this podcast encounter responses to what at what
Starting point is 00:48:17 at the more in some moment no know that's how
Starting point is 00:48:22 that's just like you know it's the message that the
Starting point is 00:48:26 people need that even that probably probably like
Starting point is 00:48:30 you say you're a but took the words
Starting point is 00:48:33 that was three words he said and with
Starting point is 00:48:37 she just she Exactly. That's great. And what's this type of things,
Starting point is 00:48:42 well, so, like, like, like, as we're not, we're going to
Starting point is 00:48:46 get. But we're to pass to the next, for favor. Me, they're in production.
Starting point is 00:48:53 A-be. Messages of the radio. That's, I think, is one of the things
Starting point is 00:48:58 that you know, that's a time, during decades, well, I think,
Starting point is 00:49:07 yeah, this moment, the last two two cycles, much was that with the new technologies the person
Starting point is 00:49:12 human would be to be a better communication, it was to be all the necessary for that that all we're in time and form
Starting point is 00:49:18 and it's it's all over the radio, a través of the Rundas times, we're seeing in time
Starting point is 00:49:24 real of what what occurred in any part of the world and not it was during the world's
Starting point is 00:49:30 that was the instrument idonio to give to do the society to be to occur
Starting point is 00:49:34 but not only only was used for us, but also, but also other elements,
Starting point is 00:49:40 there were incidents in where not he could have a explanation very clear, very contundent. To this,
Starting point is 00:49:47 we get us then that from the mass a use the elements more advanced of any
Starting point is 00:49:53 time to any time to start to make the messages, that, so about the principal
Starting point is 00:49:59 message, and this I think that get very clear, Paco, my Vos,
Starting point is 00:50:03 the Aup people, the messages that get from the mass they're
Starting point is 00:50:05 going to say, I'm going to be always And what they're going to say, yeah when
Starting point is 00:50:10 we're going more in those messages that are that's that one one of
Starting point is 00:50:16 the people when he gets a state if you during your your
Starting point is 00:50:20 did you say carnicer let's let's put a example or that
Starting point is 00:50:25 you you have or you when you when you get to that that
Starting point is 00:50:30 you create your you're you you want to you So, you, in that mass-all-your-labor will be,
Starting point is 00:50:39 you know, a herrero here at the M-A-L-A-L-A-A-A. But in that M-A-A-T, well, but I want to have, it's an example, very burdo, but I think that it's very clear. You, at the more, you know, I want to have three carretas. You're going to have your three carretas. But you're, well, but in one of them, I want to be a caboio,
Starting point is 00:51:00 in this other is an elephant, and in this other is an giraffe. what you're going to because you're creating your reality because it's where you're going to you're going to
Starting point is 00:51:09 you want to you're going to no there no there no no there no there no there nothing of what we
Starting point is 00:51:17 do we're in our reality is the paradise is the what is what is what is what is then so through
Starting point is 00:51:23 these messages of radio that through that through these messages he came to get a series
Starting point is 00:51:29 of information like it was a time in where where, de-reepent, they began to get in various
Starting point is 00:51:34 countries, messages, where what I'm saying, they're talking, they're saying, that it was a
Starting point is 00:51:42 question that was made from the origin of the humanity, but that in some moment someone had
Starting point is 00:51:47 made a necessary for that all this all right, and that the humans would have a moment
Starting point is 00:51:53 to acceder and to understand that this not is all, that we're not we're
Starting point is 00:51:58 not we're not we're to be polvito, senisas, no, but that our energy, our spirit,
Starting point is 00:52:07 gets to other levels and still live, still learning, still learning, and that when you get to
Starting point is 00:52:15 that you know the last year, and you look at what you did you, there,
Starting point is 00:52:21 no, there's a no, there's no pain, and who people they did
Starting point is 00:52:25 a year that the , you, to, you, you, provoked the
Starting point is 00:52:30 death, you will you're going to you're not there no there's
Starting point is 00:52:34 this this I've said you all this is impossible if I'm for the cause of
Starting point is 00:52:42 someone I have to get to do that I'm going to do you know I'm going to do you
Starting point is 00:52:49 forget that that's that's that's that no that no that's not so no
Starting point is 00:52:53 then so imagineate the importance that if it was to if it was it was for that we
Starting point is 00:52:59 enteramos of different moments for to inform us in time real
Starting point is 00:53:05 of what were in places in places so but that they start
Starting point is 00:53:09 information very very point and this it was not not that
Starting point is 00:53:14 they were in a session with the eyes with those eyes no
Starting point is 00:53:19 that of the that of the the medium also comment
Starting point is 00:53:23 that when they're to canal to a example
Starting point is 00:53:28 you an example you want to talk with a family a falle a manned
Starting point is 00:53:31 a man not is of yeah, wait a let him and you do you the message
Starting point is 00:53:37 no, there's a there's a there's there's they're for example I remember
Starting point is 00:53:43 much how it's our friend the man of the man a heart
Starting point is 00:53:47 a brazo he he'll he's he's a very he's a bit
Starting point is 00:53:52 Johanan want to contact this person those I'm and if me do
Starting point is 00:53:57 the authorization you can to do. So, he says, he says, he responds a yes, or a no. Or a yes, but
Starting point is 00:54:05 with a not so a non-convencedo, or a not-convenciled, but if is no, is no. So, just exactly, as you can't, you want a message, and I'll give you the message, no, it's not,
Starting point is 00:54:19 no, it's, no. And, apart, who's, who can't say, that with him, if they're to contact, and they're going to get a message, they're they're trying to. This is so. Not all the people
Starting point is 00:54:29 have that capacity to communicate to the more and not all the people have the capacity to
Starting point is 00:54:35 support the energy of the messages that they're doing. Also, also, also,
Starting point is 00:54:39 we're to get very clear in that aspect. And now, we're we're doing the message
Starting point is 00:54:44 of that that's a question. We're not we're not, we're not, we're, so, all
Starting point is 00:54:52 we know, we know, but we're prepared to receive a message, we're going to
Starting point is 00:54:57 serve Exactly. No We know. Oye, do you? If we pass to the next? Yes, yes,
Starting point is 00:55:02 let's go to the next. For a favor? Let's see. Uh, uh, that's, that's, I don't a chingo
Starting point is 00:55:08 of me. A bit of, I mean, to do you, I want to, I want to, I think, I think,
Starting point is 00:55:14 I think, that the people, like me put in, images that perturban, for there,
Starting point is 00:55:19 much people, much people so, much people, so much people, so much people, know, to know,
Starting point is 00:55:24 your present, and know your your past, always when you're to look to the
Starting point is 00:55:31 not know your future no they can pre-dece it I mean this is what I've understood in this
Starting point is 00:55:37 studio that I'm doing no they're doing no know no know your but
Starting point is 00:55:43 but also it's also because they can't remember we're remember we're more
Starting point is 00:55:49 more more poweros in the sense that they have more they're
Starting point is 00:55:52 not they're they're they're they're they they're Johanan,
Starting point is 00:55:58 example, very burd, or no, or no, fulanito of tal, you're going to get in 15
Starting point is 00:56:03 days. Oh, yeah, your your brain is a machine that you like the
Starting point is 00:56:09 genius, your your desires, are the desires, are the you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:14 you're and it's, the better is that you're going to be to be to be
Starting point is 00:56:19 to say, the word, you, it's, you know, attract, vibras and then
Starting point is 00:56:25 possibly for the fact of to be thinking in that you're distraired not you're focused on
Starting point is 00:56:31 the way, pass the day you're and you're and you're a problem that's a question very important
Starting point is 00:56:38 the power of the mind but the demons in si no know you know you
Starting point is 00:56:43 know what you're all your pasto your story all of all of
Starting point is 00:56:47 all of what of the now there's the part how how different
Starting point is 00:56:52 how much is to use the Ouija to do the TSI Transcommunication Instrumental? No, are things completely different. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:01 I'll tell you. In the case of the transcommunication instrumental, the questions have to go to go to a person in
Starting point is 00:57:10 specific. A person that you have known to someone that you have convivable, to someone that you
Starting point is 00:57:17 know, to say, or have references of that individual, in the case of the
Starting point is 00:57:21 waha is open. Although in many of the occasions, it's like it's like a lot of a person
Starting point is 00:57:26 but what says the is that for the side of the WIHA and the transcommunication instrumental
Starting point is 00:57:33 in the case of the wayha like it's more that's there are that you
Starting point is 00:57:38 are the you cruces that you're to come the demonia no no, for nothing
Starting point is 00:57:45 with the demonio is the master of the MENTira you you want
Starting point is 00:57:49 you want to hear a extraterrestre a through the whiha, it's going to or you want to hear your
Starting point is 00:57:56 to do you, a your brother, to your mom? That's the question. That's the question.
Starting point is 00:58:03 But if there's the visos of veracity, then to the majority, there's a question is,
Starting point is 00:58:10 they'll know, they'll know those visos of security? No. No. No. No, and
Starting point is 00:58:16 I'll put an example. A bit. Look, during a time when I was very metied in all this of the, of the
Starting point is 00:58:22 phenomena of abnormals, I remember that I interviewed with much people that used practically every day at the Uiha. And, and they used to other people, not in a manner commercial, but if they had used to talk about communication
Starting point is 00:58:36 with their characters, that they had been advanced. And I was how I saw if in reality was who they were, and they said, and me they said, when in reality is the person that is the person who is looking the person
Starting point is 00:58:49 that came to consult a through the whiffa, the first word is the apod
Starting point is 00:58:54 that they said, without the person that person that solicited the service. Two,
Starting point is 00:59:00 that of that happened that they were saying of an anecdote that had occurred to the
Starting point is 00:59:06 maybe about a time, in a place, not the way, in Siberia,
Starting point is 00:59:11 and of a person, that they were a car there's in another point.
Starting point is 00:59:16 Okay. So, it's He says that with the demonios, no you can't look at the eyes, because if you see it, they
Starting point is 00:59:23 know absolutely all of you, and they're going to attack in where they're in that point-in- the point-to- the point?
Starting point is 00:59:31 Exactly. And when you find you, they're going to they're going to to let's get to the transcommunication
Starting point is 00:59:37 instrumental is as more directed. With this, I'm not I'm saying that don't get in Cere's
Starting point is 00:59:42 Malandriyo to make the life impossible and and get us. If you can
Starting point is 00:59:46 do they're to do you. Sure, from because it's there when some people refer that
Starting point is 00:59:52 they're in the first session or in the first questions start words, whizurs, gemmidos,
Starting point is 01:00:00 no gemmids of pleasure, gemidos of dolor, gemmidos of, well, that's so,
Starting point is 01:00:08 of dolor, or, no, I think that I'm kind of so much, then the
Starting point is 01:00:14 things not are good, because it's suppone that the other other
Starting point is 01:00:18 other side, all the other It's, between us and the more there, there's an instance intermediate. In that instance intermediate, is sure that there are people that are sotan, that there are senses that those castiguan,
Starting point is 01:00:57 that there areens that they're sure that, that in that instance, all is obscurity, but that they're going to plastando to others, that are like if someone aplastar to the sojas, but
Starting point is 01:01:12 a sound very, very And, even there are people have played the Ouija, or have used the tabla
Starting point is 01:01:19 Uija, that not is a game, that this is a lot of not a point, when they're
Starting point is 01:01:24 using the table whiha or they're using a method, they're this,
Starting point is 01:01:30 of that there are other people, that agred to who are people, from us from us.
Starting point is 01:01:35 From the side of this back, they're they're that when a person
Starting point is 01:01:40 is in line with they or is in communication, is like if all it's too all over
Starting point is 01:01:46 and they're to bring to finder's flamitas for so at the moment that someone comes to use the tabla
Starting point is 01:01:52 oieja immediately get in much people are because they're because there a flamita so they're
Starting point is 01:01:58 so they're to do impossible to putter to make to us and make us the life
Starting point is 01:02:03 impossible well depending depending on that's that's that's that's a man
Starting point is 01:02:08 to me aterra that's yeah because is that imagine if you
Starting point is 01:02:12 you're in these moments Paco, imagine. We're the thing is
Starting point is 01:02:15 very. No? But now that these entities of the other, from the
Starting point is 01:02:22 more a lot of us say that there are people that they lastiming and that
Starting point is 01:02:29 they're and that's many things to people to people to people,
Starting point is 01:02:35 then we we're we're not, we know we know we're little.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Flet that, well to talk to about the demonios
Starting point is 01:02:42 I of the things more the things, the mention those and just
Starting point is 01:02:46 like it and you and it's a lot of a lot of a little bit to be this image.
Starting point is 01:02:52 But it's that I'm a little it's a so it's insinuat if it's insinu
Starting point is 01:03:00 something because why I tell you this car that just put the video obviously
Starting point is 01:03:07 that is false but another so it but I feel that when you're
Starting point is 01:03:11 trying to contact for example, with Uiha. Yeah. Pasa, so, like, like, to be able to firsts,
Starting point is 01:03:17 like, it's a attention, like he says with him, with him, and so, so they're going to be
Starting point is 01:03:24 so, I think, I think, I think, I think, I'm, I'm sure, that's, I'm sure you,
Starting point is 01:03:29 because it's the, is the, is the, not like, the piche of the is,
Starting point is 01:03:33 but yeah we're the next, because I'm many, many, many, many,
Starting point is 01:03:38 many, many, many, many, I'm I'm sure, let me read for here a message, a friend of,
Starting point is 01:03:41 he said, hello, grand in-vibo, after that felleceo my father, oh, yeah, old Spice,
Starting point is 01:03:47 grand team, saludos, from Arizona. Yes, right, so, so,
Starting point is 01:03:51 yeah, so, before, before, I mean, to continue, I'm not, I'm going,
Starting point is 01:03:55 to say, to make, to the audience, I'm going to hear, I'm going to say,
Starting point is 01:04:00 Laura, I, De, yeah, Paquito, no, you're just stustes more,
Starting point is 01:04:02 but it's a thing interesting, This, look, are things that in many of the occasions,
Starting point is 01:04:09 over the when it's of the more than the death, we're not we're in some moment
Starting point is 01:04:14 we're going to be in a first instance to me not much the things that they have been
Starting point is 01:04:21 with the thing when I amolucro after that my father's my abelito,
Starting point is 01:04:27 my abelito and of I'm going to give me clave much in all what has to do the
Starting point is 01:04:33 transcommunication instrumental and I I learned much that if you go with fear in these things
Starting point is 01:04:37 certainly something you will be going to be but if you enter in that way frontal,
Starting point is 01:04:42 direct, that is something normal or it should be a normal but that's always we've said that's
Starting point is 01:04:47 something that's all then there all but it's problem cultural no it's problem
Starting point is 01:04:53 not it's no, it's question cultural of the society actual. Look,
Starting point is 01:05:00 it's for here, manette says I'm from Venezuela
Starting point is 01:05:03 I in my adolescence, I'd listen to the radio of the night no dormia if not were with the radio
Starting point is 01:05:09 there's a up, right up, up, up, right, up, right, oh, it's right,
Starting point is 01:05:15 oh, it's it was, no, no, it can't be, so, I'm, pardon me,
Starting point is 01:05:19 pardon me, it, I, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 01:05:25 here's a, here's, here's a, yeah, I'm, just, I was, and I'm,
Starting point is 01:05:30 and I'm, there's voices extranails and tenebroses and you know, and yeah no I'll end up. Imagine to, I mean, it's there's the middle, no,
Starting point is 01:05:38 the noise that much many times emitting some frequencies extra-as, but there is there, and she for here, Combi, yeah, saluted of Paco and Johan,
Starting point is 01:05:47 clearly, yeah, Camby, you know, we're a great-abraso. A great-off. Thank you. It's for here. Well, Janette,
Starting point is 01:05:54 oh, no, you know, you know, Mari, Luna, Luna, what most it's, he's
Starting point is 01:05:59 watching while he's a lot. Ah, well, yeah, there are many are saying
Starting point is 01:06:03 that are saying those people. For there, report, if those who are they're doing, they're doing, oh, I,
Starting point is 01:06:08 they're doing so they're they're doing to enter in panico. This is a reality that has been accompanied us
Starting point is 01:06:15 a long of the history. That we we're not we'll get to get to this information and
Starting point is 01:06:21 is another role. Exactly. But it's a time that's always a but it's
Starting point is 01:06:26 but is it's a matter. Yes, yes. He said, for here, Anna,
Starting point is 01:06:30 says Anna Ribeiro, is that no can't to be. He said, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 01:06:34 I'm sorry a lot of much, you know, I'm a lot of a brother, and I
Starting point is 01:06:39 said, and a day and I said, and I came to see, and that
Starting point is 01:06:43 night when I was, I, I, and I called for the
Starting point is 01:06:47 phone, how it and he made, and me and he asked for my
Starting point is 01:06:50 kids. Wow. Just there there's a experience that I have
Starting point is 01:06:55 talked much that lived a person very close to me that so was like he also she
Starting point is 01:07:02 doorme to and she's oh yeah why me get to my papa and I'm and I'm the other and the
Starting point is 01:07:08 night and the night I'm the same that I'm a time the phrase is
Starting point is 01:07:12 hello how you don't have much time and the message that I need
Starting point is 01:07:17 that with that that while that's okay okay it's a thing I've mentioned
Starting point is 01:07:23 messages of the other world, where you mentioned an anecdote of a microphone and
Starting point is 01:07:27 a microphone and a... Yes, that's that the long of the decades, there are
Starting point is 01:07:32 many people in different parts of the world that have done what necessary to to be
Starting point is 01:07:36 involved directly in the gravation of the birds, of some animal,
Starting point is 01:07:43 of some animal salvage, of some animal that's in the cellva,
Starting point is 01:07:47 and well, so it so it happened of the United
Starting point is 01:07:51 to go to Central America to to to grab the sonnidos of certain, of certain aves.
Starting point is 01:07:56 All this was for a documental. Well, they're getting with cajas and of equipment. I'm going to this was in the
Starting point is 01:08:03 80s. So, well, they're getting with cajas and the microphones, cables, the grabators,
Starting point is 01:08:08 that before the grabators were very great, the professionals, and well, the issue that installs
Starting point is 01:08:13 all in an area of the cellva, and then started then to grab, to look the pachor
Starting point is 01:08:20 that they interested about, it They started to grab. And, of and of it's that
Starting point is 01:08:26 they were in some of the voices. And they said, no, it's not it. So, they're
Starting point is 01:08:32 saying, yeah, it's doing a lot of doing connection, and is garraining the stations
Starting point is 01:08:37 of radio locales. That's me has passed. Exactly. The normal. Dismontan
Starting point is 01:08:44 all, they're all they're going to do it, checkar that no cable
Starting point is 01:08:47 were on the other cable to precisely to that again. Other
Starting point is 01:08:52 they put it to grab all, and there then the gravation of voices
Starting point is 01:08:57 of people that said and this had to be directly with the guerrilla in Central
Starting point is 01:09:04 America. Oh, no, there was nobody. Okay. No, there was
Starting point is 01:09:08 nobody. They're to a point where they're not they're not they're not,
Starting point is 01:09:14 they're because there was the pachar in that moment or the animalito that they
Starting point is 01:09:19 were in that moment put in They're displaying the equipment, and they're they're to capture,
Starting point is 01:09:24 like if someone was to be able to get to be to go to get to get to yeah, you know,
Starting point is 01:09:30 the commandant. You're saying, how is possible? How is possible that could do that? Well, this that
Starting point is 01:09:35 I've just said in Central America. But who started with this of the psychophonias is in
Starting point is 01:09:42 Europe, where Juergenson, which is the father, practically or is considered the father of the psychophonias. he's,
Starting point is 01:09:50 he's to grab the sound of the pincol. It's a pacharer that's a
Starting point is 01:09:56 very in specific. He's he's going and he he's got, and he he's got to
Starting point is 01:10:02 heurgy, Yurgy. He immediately said, but what is going to what's going again.
Starting point is 01:10:08 Again, it's a radio, it's a matter of a radio, it's a back to
Starting point is 01:10:14 give to Yurgy, Yurgy, Yurgy. God. He's, he's not The number in diminutiv
Starting point is 01:10:21 that he gave a his mom. This of Juergenson suceded after many decades back.
Starting point is 01:10:30 The of Central America that's six years. We're talking of a same phenomenon with a
Starting point is 01:10:38 new technology or with a new technology but the issue is that this so cede. You do
Starting point is 01:10:44 other data also also in this part that has to be to be with the
Starting point is 01:10:47 microphones. I was a server working in a station of radio that has disappeared lamentably in the Republic
Starting point is 01:10:54 Mexican, that was radio 13 notices. I started my career professional in doing notices, first I
Starting point is 01:11:02 went to like doing practices and then I kept like, I took many many courses of
Starting point is 01:11:08 my voice and then I kept doing the courtes and formative and then then the conduction
Starting point is 01:11:14 of the area of notices. Well, the In that process, I was out practically of the
Starting point is 01:11:21 practice of the transcommunication instrumental. When I do the transcommunication instrumental, I left because they started
Starting point is 01:11:30 occurred, many phenomena paranormal to me around. Since I was I was in my recamara, to be that
Starting point is 01:11:37 someone passed by here or back or back at when there that the things were to start to
Starting point is 01:11:43 move, or that I was doing, or and then the point the quadro is enchuekara or that
Starting point is 01:11:49 a second a tassas or that's a delantara or that when I felt like a frio, when
Starting point is 01:11:56 I felt in my house, like a sensation very strange, the perros of the people of the
Starting point is 01:12:01 people were to becions to get a normal, or of a part of the other there was
Starting point is 01:12:07 that they're to get objects or one of one of the one of the most of the attention
Starting point is 01:12:13 was that they'd ...cared as if there were vigas, bigas, bigas very pesas, of those of those those of the houses old,
Starting point is 01:12:19 as if they were like they were, and it was made a sound tremendous that vibrava all the house. When I was going to be
Starting point is 01:12:26 to see, there nothing, no there was nobody. So, in those moments, I did, and I didn't want to know more
Starting point is 01:12:33 of this, because also what I was about to me, but this was extended to my nuclear.
Starting point is 01:12:41 My family yeah, I was was trying, and I was having things anomal. Nobody didn't know
Starting point is 01:12:46 why, but I didn't know for what. So in this process, Paco, mygos,
Starting point is 01:12:53 I'm going to do to do practice professional to this station of radio. I was because
Starting point is 01:12:59 there were a lot of times that I had to the segment of the court to get to do you,
Starting point is 01:13:09 then the editor, I was doing the production and they'd Well, and there a few times
Starting point is 01:13:15 that I called the editor and I said, Oye, there's a there's a here, and I say, okay,
Starting point is 01:13:21 and say, back, gorely, gorely. We're the graphic of my voice, of the news
Starting point is 01:13:26 to the but between and notice and notice there was a wayco. In that
Starting point is 01:13:31 there voices of women that said, here I'm here I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 01:13:38 I'm seeing. And there occasions that I had the notice for saying, that said
Starting point is 01:13:42 the president of Mexico, that's going to say, and in the inclusions, that's
Starting point is 01:13:47 he's like a those bocesites that's, like, in the frequency
Starting point is 01:13:52 more grand or that that's inclusions, and they're not sure, no, it's not
Starting point is 01:13:58 going to happen. And that, and me said, and me said, the,
Starting point is 01:14:03 the, the, the, for what is this, if you listen, the director
Starting point is 01:14:07 of the news, I go, but I don't do it did, I don't
Starting point is 01:14:10 invent, Listen my voice and And he's And he's And it's true It's not true No, it's Wow
Starting point is 01:14:17 So, So, it's It's quite No, I'm It's like they're They're That's why
Starting point is 01:14:24 Where I'm Yeah, I mean, It's just That's See, I'm I'm back It's like
Starting point is 01:14:28 It's much the effects Of course When you Yeah, it's a So, when it's
Starting point is 01:14:34 one time Probably never probably not something probably and probably probably so But when
Starting point is 01:14:39 you're and you you're, and you're and you're and you're like this obsession, there's there's a
Starting point is 01:14:44 one of the you connectas and you're the force for that you and you can and you can't and it's
Starting point is 01:14:51 the table. Yeah, you know, you know, you know, you know only is with you,
Starting point is 01:14:57 you know, the person that's the person that live with you. So, is, it's it's like
Starting point is 01:15:03 that the testigo principal, it's expanding, exactly. In my case, it's
Starting point is 01:15:07 just to the companyers of the job. Imagineate. I mean, the first is, the first I'm the second
Starting point is 01:15:14 circle is my family. The next circle is my companyers of the job that I was affecting to them. And, you know, there's something that I mean me made very marked in this process
Starting point is 01:15:25 because as well, you know, in the colita of the audio, something is, and effectively, there was an occasion where
Starting point is 01:15:34 there's a, where I was, I'm called, the chief of, the, of, and I said, A little, come back. It was a man,
Starting point is 01:15:39 very old, very, of those malencarados, that for all all the time. Jokan Dias, v. Vena, come back.
Starting point is 01:15:46 I'm going. I said, now what I did? There I go. And I'm saying, why do you do you know, working?
Starting point is 01:15:53 How, where? How do you? No, they're in the cabinas of gravation and of the air no, they can play.
Starting point is 01:15:59 And it's logical, because it's a equipment professional, clear. Equipo, that's synchronized, that the
Starting point is 01:16:05 part, that the grados that the material of no-se-k-tenth, in those times, now it's more
Starting point is 01:16:09 simple, but in those moments it was more complicated. And I said, but what I did you? I'm in an
Starting point is 01:16:17 interviewista with a public of the government of the city of Mexico, and while I'm in the
Starting point is 01:16:23 interview, it's clearly how, or you get to count the studio, it was like the same
Starting point is 01:16:28 like I'm the micro, he was at this, madera, they were madder, and it was and it was
Starting point is 01:16:33 he said how it pegap, pa, pa, pa, pa. But you don't listen to nothing? I never I've seen. No, the operator that was front of me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:42 So, then the operator was about because I said, but I was that I never, but I said, but I'm and the hefe,
Starting point is 01:16:50 aferrano, that you're that you're doing, that you're not doing, I'm saying, well, you know,
Starting point is 01:16:54 well, you know, I'm, I'm, no, well, he's, he's fullano
Starting point is 01:17:00 of tal, how is, blah, blah, blah, technique. When you was in the interview with Johanan,
Starting point is 01:17:08 you've seen some kind of you know? No, no. Nothing? All right? All right. You know,
Starting point is 01:17:15 not. You know, I'm not. You know, not. Ah, okay. Much thanks.
Starting point is 01:17:21 But in the gravation was, but very. He said that it was like that someone
Starting point is 01:17:25 with the two arms like, he was to the door, well,
Starting point is 01:17:29 a, a, a, a part to the with with I said,
Starting point is 01:17:34 this is bad. If you is in my house, if yeah is with my family,
Starting point is 01:17:40 if you're now where I'm working, and with my friends, in that moment, I said, I don't
Starting point is 01:17:46 want to know about the phenomena of the phenomena , and I get ridied for complete of the
Starting point is 01:17:51 phenomena paranormal. Tantto is so that at the fact, I don't see,
Starting point is 01:17:56 I don't see, is that can be able to be what in some what in
Starting point is 01:18:02 some moment, I think I'll talk I in some moment you know
Starting point is 01:18:06 I'm in those moments Lourdes. In those moments Lourdes was my new year, we're all a,
Starting point is 01:18:15 we're saying a father Jose Antonio Fortea that is considered one of the exorcists
Starting point is 01:18:19 that have published many books and it's done in eminence in about these things of
Starting point is 01:18:24 the demons. So, well, no, in an hospital very great to the
Starting point is 01:18:29 afuras a hospital enormous that we get there, we've
Starting point is 01:18:32 we don't we didn't know we were the capilla the capilla was in a very
Starting point is 01:18:39 very old we got we came with the and we we present us and all here is Lourdes
Starting point is 01:18:46 from here from here I'm here I'm going to say oh yes yeah I see
Starting point is 01:18:50 who are yes I let's say no wait for but but if we've been
Starting point is 01:18:55 we're we're we're we're we're no first we're
Starting point is 01:18:59 we're Well, he was a misa, that not was a really was a
Starting point is 01:19:04 really was a conference about the thing of the world. And at this, to do this,
Starting point is 01:19:08 to do the last of the last long, he says, me permit them to make them to make
Starting point is 01:19:14 some of the thing you know, I'll be a lourri go, ha, ha. You're first, you're first.
Starting point is 01:19:22 And, this, Saludos to the Lord of the house to here. So, look,
Starting point is 01:19:27 I just I just just, he put a man here, and a part of the nuka, and I just
Starting point is 01:19:31 I just said, Whitch, Wich, Wich, Wich, Wich, Wich, Wich. No, I know what, I've said, no, I know. Then, then, yeah, I'm put a man here, and me put a hand here, and me put a man here. And I'll just, but
Starting point is 01:19:43 I'm just to hear of this o'id, to the o'clock, and it's a Wichu, Wich, Wich, Wich, Wich. And I said, Chal, who is the Wich, well, no, I'm a Lurdes, after that, Lurdes, after that, he said, no, you're going to be, Mitchie, Mitchie,
Starting point is 01:19:58 And this, and with me, I don't know. And with me, fifted, without me, the Father Forteer, me said, no,
Starting point is 01:20:08 estes and you're looking in the psychophonies. No, you're looking nothing, and you're moving to
Starting point is 01:20:15 all the more that. The things can terminate very well. No, I saw, more
Starting point is 01:20:21 nothing. So, imagineate. I, I've been with this process, that me
Starting point is 01:20:27 me did much made, because they started things tremendous, very fertes that for
Starting point is 01:20:32 that's, I'm going to get more of this, I'm retiro, not at 100%, but no
Starting point is 01:20:37 going to continue experimenting with this. And then I'm doing this. You confirmed,
Starting point is 01:20:42 no. I'm confirmed, but me says that you, I'm a through the conversations that
Starting point is 01:20:46 I do, I can understand and I can't be visos of that there's a proclive to
Starting point is 01:20:53 have a particular to a perture to those dimensions. Domeno don't have that sacerdote. Yes,
Starting point is 01:21:00 so, so, so, no, for that's your question, if I'm involucing more,
Starting point is 01:21:07 I know, I'm going to learn, but I'm to experimenter things that I'm going to experimenter
Starting point is 01:21:12 in these moments, no, but I don't know that much the attention. That's
Starting point is 01:21:17 a, I think, that's an, I'm, I'm, about me, one of my of my battles,
Starting point is 01:21:20 no, of my luchas, create the knowledge, but not to get the a moment where I
Starting point is 01:21:26 me put in risk. or that I want to mention something important because we're very close in our first court.
Starting point is 01:21:32 This is going to put very very dense because we're trying psychphonies. Andes. We've got it. We've got
Starting point is 01:21:39 because there came a sassassau that no they can't be able to and other notice.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Many people asked, oh, when I'm going to the dog? Because you're going to the dog?
Starting point is 01:21:48 Because you went to the dog of the carterterterer back. A year ago. So,
Starting point is 01:21:54 last a year or almost today in the madrugada, we went to the place where
Starting point is 01:21:57 we're in the entity and we're to do with the doc, his promise and it's he's done.
Starting point is 01:22:03 For the next the time the advances because this is going to be available in the
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Starting point is 01:22:18 to go to give to be incarecatively not you do you do
Starting point is 01:22:24 right to appear for more botan for palomitas to bring the lights to turn to because it's the
Starting point is 01:22:29 thing the sycophonies of a place precisely of Spain that has some of the evidence so that's
Starting point is 01:22:37 so we're we're going so on this Saturday of the service of back back with all of
Starting point is 01:22:43 you guys this is this is putting goodissimo even even even
Starting point is 01:22:49 oh yeah oh yeah it's yeah in the transmissions grosso for there. Oh,
Starting point is 01:22:54 you'd preface, if, before you to continue, let me do you know, about, you know,
Starting point is 01:22:58 but you, yeah, so, yeah, yeah, so, yeah, we're going,
Starting point is 01:23:02 it's Emilia, Villa, uh, some tachitos of pescad and maron, and d'am.
Starting point is 01:23:06 Oh, Debe. It's the Santos should have to come to come here. Well,
Starting point is 01:23:12 in Morelia there's a granderian impressive of a lot of many, much,
Starting point is 01:23:16 look, to see, here, here, this, friend. Dice, Daniela,
Starting point is 01:23:20 what guapos are, and so Johanan de Sacco, okay. Saludos from Santa Cruz,
Starting point is 01:23:26 Bolivia. Thank you. Saludus to Bolivia. Dice, this is for here, Nicole Mendoza,
Starting point is 01:23:31 Los Amos. Gras. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:23:35 Uh, uh, Lulu, Pedrosa. Saludos. Thank you. I'm, I'm very
Starting point is 01:23:40 for sharing your questions. No, thank you. Thank you, a Bras'u. Abrasote. Thanks for
Starting point is 01:23:45 be to be here with us. Thank you. Salus, the U.S. U.S. Dias. Saludus,
Starting point is 01:23:51 after yeah. Oh, my prima. Ah, yeah. No, no. Devereas that you're saying,
Starting point is 01:23:56 no. Salus, salutes. Also, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:24:02 Thank you. It would be great. We're going to get this year. We're going to get this year. Yeah,
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Starting point is 01:25:58 the last few three comments. Okay, perfect. Yes, sure. Dice from Cilangolandia
Starting point is 01:26:04 Paquito Yohana and production. Salos. As always. As soon. And how good that's
Starting point is 01:26:09 the page because I want to my tass. That's what says. Brian, says, Salus,
Starting point is 01:26:15 from Ecuador, thanks. A TASA of the Monkey. The Monkey will be able a little a little bit
Starting point is 01:26:19 but have been for sure that the Tassas of Monke. He says for
Starting point is 01:26:24 here, we are sussen with relampagos. And for here, Salus to Dember, Colorado.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Well, thank you. Well, because
Starting point is 01:26:36 it's a very, it's a little very chido. A very, let's see what we're,
Starting point is 01:26:41 the The next, for favor? Oh, I think here are the manifestations more than the
Starting point is 01:26:50 more than you mentioned about, you know, when you know, this, I think you know, I think it's
Starting point is 01:26:56 something very rarro. Look, yeah, we're just it's all just the color
Starting point is 01:26:59 rogo, because yeah, it's the don't know the very, that one,
Starting point is 01:27:05 well, yes, a, a, a silueta or a rostro just like
Starting point is 01:27:09 the we can be we can be able manifestar? Yeah, yeah, is the
Starting point is 01:27:13 utilization from the much energy to do that and this is a lot of the transcommunication instrumental
Starting point is 01:27:21 is the part of pure audio. We have then the psych-imagens that is what we're doing there.
Starting point is 01:27:29 These images that were when the television antiwament was so that not had the antenna,
Starting point is 01:27:35 they were when they were to when they took a photographia, and they were to
Starting point is 01:27:40 of the person that, uh, so, that some family, he had had been a
Starting point is 01:27:45 idea, and it was many, there were much, the interpretations that they could have, since it was
Starting point is 01:27:52 a malinterpretation, of that was a question mental and that she was adapted in a new image for
Starting point is 01:27:59 that it was, but you when when the images, you know, it's very very similar
Starting point is 01:28:03 to the person that had had had elantado. Fidate what, how I don't see.
Starting point is 01:28:13 Yes, I think the word is complicated would be an evidence. I think for me it's a very complicated,
Starting point is 01:28:18 difficult. Sure. Obtener, but those existen, am Igo? If there, not like
Starting point is 01:28:23 we're doing here, that this is a through intelligence artificial, but there images and
Starting point is 01:28:28 there are photographs that in some moment appeared in the television, that the people took
Starting point is 01:28:33 to talk to talk about decades after. Okay. That no had the
Starting point is 01:28:37 cellular, that got the of something that's going to not, but they took the camera
Starting point is 01:28:44 the, the, the, uh, these, these cameras mechanicas, the rolloo,
Starting point is 01:28:52 the manuals and they, they'd, they'd, and it's, but there, so, there,
Starting point is 01:28:57 so, there's, there's, there's, but in this has, got a lot too,
Starting point is 01:29:02 too, too, the septic for to say, that no, it's fundamentally
Starting point is 01:29:06 of nothing, that, that's images are created for the psyche of the
Starting point is 01:29:10 persons, but that's impossible and viable. I don't think that that's so they're
Starting point is 01:29:13 like they're like they're going to mention a little I'm going to mention something because I think that's
Starting point is 01:29:21 no I've mentioned any of one of the things I always I mention that I
Starting point is 01:29:27 like to make encounters with followers with fans of the project in these
Starting point is 01:29:33 Mid and Grits that we do we're we're doing we're doing we're next we're one penient
Starting point is 01:29:37 in Peracru is to to know the stories of the person, or sit with with them in their
Starting point is 01:29:42 in their message and to me talk about what they're living. One person, a, a, a chica,
Starting point is 01:29:48 me commento something. She said that's used to be used to do with a room in the
Starting point is 01:29:55 television, and if they're doing in YouTube, there are many videos of persons that are
Starting point is 01:30:01 in the room for dormant to do this. Well, there just a parenthesis. The Rew
Starting point is 01:30:06 Blanco, in this case, in this case, in they use them for that they'll
Starting point is 01:30:10 they're an state and they're and they're and they're they can't and they're to be able
Starting point is 01:30:18 I'm doing when my my boy was a babycito occupable we used the sound of jubia
Starting point is 01:30:25 that is a noise black so this this person me says that she she all the
Starting point is 01:30:31 time occupable the rule for the time her name her name was Erica
Starting point is 01:30:37 she She said She mentioned that it was like it was like a she said Erica
Starting point is 01:30:45 Erica And she She said She said Who he was She was She was No
Starting point is 01:30:52 The telephone Was it was blocked The telephone Was it was The television Normal She would be
Starting point is 01:30:57 Acostar And I was Conciliating the Sue And again Erica Erica
Starting point is 01:31:03 But But he Noto I'm What she She used She used her
Starting point is 01:31:07 name, the RUido Blanco like the volume, like automatically it was like the
Starting point is 01:31:12 volume, and it was in first plan. In first plan. And she did
Starting point is 01:31:18 know that the the music. Of the television. For this, there was
Starting point is 01:31:24 the message universal. I'm going. She intends to conciliate a dream but yet
Starting point is 01:31:30 being consient, I was like the eyes but their senses were,
Starting point is 01:31:34 they were practically as they were, I'm like in this part trying to present attention of vigilia
Starting point is 01:31:43 if you want to see if you're doing so vigilando and listen Erica I'm and I'm
Starting point is 01:31:50 and me I say I know that this nobody me will believe me will
Starting point is 01:31:55 believe but the reality is that I was waiting those words I'm
Starting point is 01:32:00 not said that I'm going to go to not know but
Starting point is 01:32:04 two months my father my papa his father was a
Starting point is 01:32:08 person that's a particular material of a state
Starting point is 01:32:12 a carmioner he took an accident in the carter in the
Starting point is 01:32:17 highway in Mexico Pueblo for there there there was an
Starting point is 01:32:24 feal the this is that he's that I'm he was a two
Starting point is 01:32:31 days me perhaps the cumplean of her and he he said
Starting point is 01:32:34 her, I'm going to start working, but I'm going to do all the possible
Starting point is 01:32:37 for to be in your birthday. In that the sir, when I go to
Starting point is 01:32:42 go to a car, suffer the accident, and you get the life,
Starting point is 01:32:47 and she passed the time, was, was in this duels, she was
Starting point is 01:32:52 in depression, but she did you know, she, not it was not a voice
Starting point is 01:32:56 a voice, so, like a voice, like a sometimes there are a bit,
Starting point is 01:33:02 but they were, they were they're a number, no, Eric. No, it was the voice of his
Starting point is 01:33:06 father that was out of the television using the noise, precisely the noise, the noise of black, the the noise of the jubia. So, you know, how is possible? And, it's a lot of doubts, because, of it sometimes is, as well, it's, like, it's a little difficult
Starting point is 01:33:22 to believe. Sure, exactly. Here, also, here, also, we need to in clear this part. What is what it retienes in our world, in our dimension? To those persons that you advanced to those
Starting point is 01:33:32 persons that are those they're that they're they're different reasons.
Starting point is 01:33:36 One of they're to have to children to make a problem that they
Starting point is 01:33:42 they're doing or that was a accident that where they they didn't
Starting point is 01:33:47 they're they're in a certain kind of and that maybe chocked or something
Starting point is 01:33:54 and it was a way to let's talk to a bomber in active
Starting point is 01:34:00 of the municipality of Catepec, that is the same that you told about minutes after the woman, of the person, of a woman that found there in one of the zeros of Catepeg.
Starting point is 01:34:11 Well, he assurua that in the Mexico Pachuca, that's a part of the municipality of Catepec, in some moment
Starting point is 01:34:18 there was an accident very strong, a caro was a back of the caja of a trailer. So, they're called,
Starting point is 01:34:28 the person, the conductor, only went one person in that car he went pressed and well
Starting point is 01:34:34 then then then they're to get to get to get the camionette of the of the bombers
Starting point is 01:34:40 they're they're back and they call much the attention a young that was but palid
Starting point is 01:34:46 palid and being to the interior of the automobile they're thinking that he's
Starting point is 01:34:51 thought about to some family of the person that was there
Starting point is 01:34:54 there said that there was that he was a question and that
Starting point is 01:35:00 they said, he's very very sad that's a old, what he has been probably
Starting point is 01:35:05 is familiar or a maybe he was there in the car no we're saying sir,
Starting point is 01:35:11 sir, what he said, he said, he said well, no, no can
Starting point is 01:35:16 be here, retirese, retirese, he's, so he is to be back this
Starting point is 01:35:19 and when they're when they're when they that's that individual that was looking
Starting point is 01:35:26 that was looking to the interior of the car was the
Starting point is 01:35:28 body of the person that was there God prensated they're they're
Starting point is 01:35:35 they're they're inmediate to look to look it's not that the same
Starting point is 01:35:42 the same the same the same so nothing just they're they're but what
Starting point is 01:35:49 he called the attention blank and when they're they're the signor that was
Starting point is 01:35:53 the interpretation that they they do is that As it was an accident, it was out,
Starting point is 01:36:00 it was out of your and no gave a cabida to what had occurred to, that he had not was there. No,
Starting point is 01:36:08 it was like, so what you know? So, what's what is what the story, us have said that these
Starting point is 01:36:14 energies, those spirits, what, like, as we, we've got, they're not they're,
Starting point is 01:36:21 they're not they're going to say, I'll, I'm going to say, I'm mention.
Starting point is 01:36:25 Hids Menorres, some problem that desen them, any kind of that they're
Starting point is 01:36:30 finiqued, or not they've been to someone. Wow, Amigo. That's
Starting point is 01:36:37 what you can get to do you do this? Sure, because so are the
Starting point is 01:36:40 of the things, you know, you don't have to apego to any a house,
Starting point is 01:36:44 nor a house, nor a nothing, or nothing, nor the other, none,
Starting point is 01:36:48 because there is another other thing that me always has made
Starting point is 01:36:51 the attention, that is sure that when one gets to a bar, you're going to find the spirits of many
Starting point is 01:36:57 people who have been retenied or that they're that they're engaged to those places where there are alcohol. Okay.
Starting point is 01:37:08 Much of others say that also say that there's a person in the places of pleasure. That there
Starting point is 01:37:14 are, those energies, those spirits, there are like that they're like they're like they or so, like,
Starting point is 01:37:22 they're like that festivity that can't get a person in a bar, in an entro. So,
Starting point is 01:37:29 then that's, to me really a question, because I don't see if this is true, no,
Starting point is 01:37:34 but me it's quite that there many times that it's a type of places and the
Starting point is 01:37:38 people and the people, it's there when they're when they're they're saying, what the
Starting point is 01:37:43 is that there's that there's that there's that there can be that there much
Starting point is 01:37:49 festivity of many of many series that are here that they love to be in our dimension that no
Starting point is 01:37:57 they're going to move to advance or that they don't know how they're doing what they're that not let's
Starting point is 01:38:04 do they're getting at those it's that is that we know that every kind of every who has
Starting point is 01:38:11 done and how we're going to maybe in a future no look there there's
Starting point is 01:38:16 there there's a thank thanks for your donation this I dreamed that my
Starting point is 01:38:20 tio fellierceo and he called and he said he said that no time and he gave a message for my
Starting point is 01:38:26 mom. In my birthday I wanted to be it and I said that night I saw you
Starting point is 01:38:33 that came to bring me wow, what, what that's great, sohally
Starting point is 01:38:38 I could tell us what was the message for the mom so it would be
Starting point is 01:38:41 interesting to know the message. Okay, we we're here I
Starting point is 01:38:45 think here one of my semas that I'm that I prepare
Starting point is 01:38:48 for this night. Okay. A Oh, yeah. The cars of Belmess. No, no, it's hallucinant. It's alucinant
Starting point is 01:38:58 there in Spain. And, look, miren, that's, so, little to they were, it's pretty,
Starting point is 01:39:05 uh, it's more, it's more, we're doing, to do this need, that Lurden us help
Starting point is 01:39:10 to be able to to be in the house. That's, that's, yeah? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:15 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, you're, To be, no, no. For the people who are
Starting point is 01:39:22 knowing this, this house, this is just just like mentioned Johanan is in Spain. And this
Starting point is 01:39:30 occurs in 19771. This he occurred to the family Pereira. This house is
Starting point is 01:39:37 located in the Calle 5. A bit, what so cede with this? In
Starting point is 01:39:43 1977 one, they started to appear strange rosters in the repisas, in the paredes, in the
Starting point is 01:39:53 piece. And there's a phenomenon of which I always talk, that is the para-idolia, that many a lot of times, is that I see a demon, and I saw a lot, and I don't see nothing in the photo, but no, do you, ask them, ask, zoom, ask, and turn it, and put it
Starting point is 01:40:09 and put it in the contra-lose, and met him this, fire. Ah, so if you met all this, you'll know what you want to, but this rompe for complete the pareidolia.
Starting point is 01:40:20 That image and all those that are being are images that are in the nothing in
Starting point is 01:40:27 that house. Of the not. This house has put a proof to the
Starting point is 01:40:32 bestigators of the phenomenon paranormal to the people, to say that they
Starting point is 01:40:38 say that they're that's that they're they're they're they're
Starting point is 01:40:43 they're how is how is that someone is really is incredible
Starting point is 01:40:48 because it's put to prove. The people is sceptica, the people with the mentality
Starting point is 01:40:53 fria, I need, and precisely they're going to do. No, no, is no no is
Starting point is 01:40:58 any fraud or no is any act of charlataneria. Realment they formed
Starting point is 01:41:06 of the nada. Even the first image that appeared the
Starting point is 01:41:09 family decided like to romper the pedas of
Starting point is 01:41:14 the piece and back it to tapisar how it's and at the
Starting point is 01:41:19 day of the other it's really to get to make a person so it's
Starting point is 01:41:22 impressive that so a house something obviously supernatural
Starting point is 01:41:27 paranormal paranormal and they hear a lot of things
Starting point is 01:41:31 very rare so why I want I want to let's
Starting point is 01:41:35 I'm I'm I'm and for please I'm I'm
Starting point is 01:41:38 doing this from this they see the volume
Starting point is 01:41:41 and those listen this of audif us, sum them the volume, and for favor, concentrate
Starting point is 01:41:47 because there were a series of investigators that decided to find psychophonies in this house. They've got a grabator, they're driving
Starting point is 01:41:59 for much time, for favor, apagin the luses, because they're to hear, they're going to
Starting point is 01:42:05 hear the voice of entities that haveitten this house. And I'm to say something, it's one,
Starting point is 01:42:14 not one, not two, are much many, abitant this house. So,
Starting point is 01:42:21 if for these, the rostros, are impactants, so yeah, they're really, are
Starting point is 01:42:25 impactants, amy, before to get to the disofts, you'd like,
Starting point is 01:42:29 I'd add a more of this house, man, well, you,
Starting point is 01:42:31 that, as the major part of the investigators most important
Starting point is 01:42:35 of Spain, have been in the place, and, have done send a
Starting point is 01:42:41 reportage, they've written a written a lot of about this caras and that's
Starting point is 01:42:46 not there's a question no, put a proof to the people but it's real,
Starting point is 01:42:52 it's autentical so I think it was a back the yeah no supe in what
Starting point is 01:42:56 it's up and not you know it's like it's like yeah yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:43:03 yeah yeah yeah I'm no no see someone he has come
Starting point is 01:43:06 I'm and that they preserve in that because, well, I think that's very much the attention in your moment
Starting point is 01:43:12 and I'll say there's a quantity of impressionate of investigation about this and we're going to really be able to have a,
Starting point is 01:43:22 an explanation and over the more at a moment to go to get to be, to be what we know what's the status to the
Starting point is 01:43:32 status to the date, I don't know how is there. I mean, I would be much fear to buy it and live there.
Starting point is 01:43:38 I mean, because, the people, the people, the people, the investigators have gone to and they've been that there are many things
Starting point is 01:43:45 abitating that many. Many things. For favor, we're going with the sycophonia number one,
Starting point is 01:43:52 and we're to try to let's know, all those who are listening on the volume. On the volume.
Starting point is 01:43:58 With a bit. With a bit. With a bit. With a lot of it. Desvivir to A bit, that's That's, for a
Starting point is 01:44:11 help me help me by the help me here. Thanks. When they're
Starting point is 01:44:15 they're doing this, not I can say the word, but it's, you know what
Starting point is 01:44:20 is, it's the voice of a man. So, it's it's a question,
Starting point is 01:44:26 like, I know, I think one's 60, no, 60, 60, 60,
Starting point is 01:44:30 65 years, more and less. But it's saying something to live to live a man.
Starting point is 01:44:35 Yeah. Now, there other psychophonia but I think you'll make for
Starting point is 01:44:39 please listen because it's the voice of the entity of the spirit
Starting point is 01:44:44 of the energy that's let's let's with the next for
Starting point is 01:44:46 favor so there there there there there this
Starting point is 01:44:57 that they should listen to listen definitely because
Starting point is 01:45:01 it costs much work but if they do
Starting point is 01:45:04 all the volume and present attention So we'll understand
Starting point is 01:45:08 that he says who came here he will be to renaz
Starting point is 01:45:13 for favor us do a volume here we do us
Starting point is 01:45:16 if if you they're in a second plan there
Starting point is 01:45:22 is there there there there there there for that
Starting point is 01:45:27 you put much attention and so it's there
Starting point is 01:45:29 so let's let let put it on a one more. There there
Starting point is 01:45:36 there's there's in a second plan. Oh, let's go we're going to
Starting point is 01:45:41 the second, for favor because are various psychphonies. There's a person
Starting point is 01:45:47 Well, here, but they're, well, they're, they're in Spanish? It's in
Starting point is 01:45:51 Spanish? Yeah, in Spanish. In Spanish of Spain. Ah, of course. Of course,
Starting point is 01:45:55 the actually, it's able to hear, man, the accent to
Starting point is 01:45:58 in this part a, one, a, a, a woman, that is
Starting point is 01:46:04 a, a a senior who live there a question because
Starting point is 01:46:08 have been to my house? I'll let's the question and
Starting point is 01:46:10 it's he's he's a grab and it is a question for
Starting point is 01:46:13 favor does give a volume it is a
Starting point is 01:46:18 a is a is a is a there is a there there
Starting point is 01:46:25 there it's saying it it's if if you put
Starting point is 01:46:31 much attention it's it's an abus it so.
Starting point is 01:46:35 So, again, we've done a volume? Now, that's another voice?
Starting point is 01:46:48 Yeah, we've seen three voices different. Three voices, but if are, but
Starting point is 01:46:53 justly are, and justly are messages like, are, are, so,
Starting point is 01:46:57 so, not it's... Very precise. Uh-huh, and so like, there's,
Starting point is 01:47:00 like, like, like, it's, like, it's, like, it,
Starting point is 01:47:02 and, we're going to the for favor. Here me
Starting point is 01:47:07 it's two just there's let me go over for a there's
Starting point is 01:47:15 there there's there there there there there oh
Starting point is 01:47:21 jol let's a see a bit so what do you do you
Starting point is 01:47:29 think of these of the opinion I'm Look, to me so forth
Starting point is 01:47:33 of Spain, that are cases that are in a lot of there are. There are
Starting point is 01:47:38 any years 200 years. Well, imagine that all the could go to and when
Starting point is 01:47:44 you see in the case of the Blemse, well, so are
Starting point is 01:47:48 also a old antivus, are a house or is a house that
Starting point is 01:47:51 was a practically living the investigators of the Bisterio of
Starting point is 01:47:57 Spain and that top precisely with this type of sound
Starting point is 01:48:00 that appeared that They'd that at maybe I'm going to the
Starting point is 01:48:03 grabator there would be to appear something and it would be to say
Starting point is 01:48:08 it's my way to say for a question so that we're talking while
Starting point is 01:48:15 that's like that he's like Johanna no spank but but
Starting point is 01:48:22 but it's incredible because that case I mean much people
Starting point is 01:48:26 many people were they're they did know they're the
Starting point is 01:48:31 the images that are, well, there's a mystery there's, but now the voices of many
Starting point is 01:48:38 communities abetting this, I'm going to say on this, I've seen this psychphonies in the
Starting point is 01:48:44 night with with the audio, and I did it, I mean, it's not getting me
Starting point is 01:48:50 no, because the literal, you're listening to listen to something to our thing in our
Starting point is 01:48:56 thing, so that not is here materialment, it's Mediances Sure. Now the
Starting point is 01:49:04 question is, are they're things Are you? Serencers, Paco? Seren Cere's that
Starting point is 01:49:09 the most when they're going to the investigators or the recorders or the moment or
Starting point is 01:49:15 what are? Exactly. It's what I do. That's a great mystery. It's a thing.
Starting point is 01:49:23 We say, I mean, we're we're trying to here to the person
Starting point is 01:49:25 to the person. Many people, he's to investigate many times the
Starting point is 01:49:30 things that we're we're and we're in the last time the last
Starting point is 01:49:35 time the spiritcom the the machine for about with the
Starting point is 01:49:40 mortals I'm when I told this I said this no is not a
Starting point is 01:49:46 this this no function this this no this no that we're going
Starting point is 01:49:50 to we're going to be that but I think it was a meant
Starting point is 01:49:53 that was that was a thing was a fake no really
Starting point is 01:49:58 really there were two persons that are the people that are the moment, that is George
Starting point is 01:50:02 and, well, George, Mick, is an engineer, investigator of the paranormal and is William,
Starting point is 01:50:08 an experimenter of the TSI. Those two people were, and more or less or in the
Starting point is 01:50:15 years, 1,970 and 1,070, decided create an appar a parato to capture
Starting point is 01:50:25 psychophonias. But what they used were an apparel an apprata unique that could create
Starting point is 01:50:31 like a point unidirectional to have no psychphonies like those we've got to hear no conversations
Starting point is 01:50:40 like if you're talking about and conversations longgated this functioned with the
Starting point is 01:50:48 frequency of radio specificas modulando the voice synthesized and even this
Starting point is 01:50:54 helped as it was to have to have a major interaction with the entities. Now,
Starting point is 01:51:00 what the people write or is that William, that was one of these creators,
Starting point is 01:51:08 contact to a spirit, that was a spirit an old, was a engineer of the NASA
Starting point is 01:51:14 called Dr. George Jeffrey Mueller, who this spirit, like he said, how
Starting point is 01:51:22 perfectionar this hermienta for that were more efficient. Now, this
Starting point is 01:51:28 functioned with 13 frequencies emitidated the those spirits las molded or those
Starting point is 01:51:34 accommodated to come to come they were to have this more fluidness in the moment to be able
Starting point is 01:51:41 I had 13 frequencies well this permitted what you mentioned about a conversation practically
Starting point is 01:51:46 in time real like the spirit box but with more in the conversation
Starting point is 01:51:52 yeah not were like the words that are that are some so that you can
Starting point is 01:51:57 confunding with other signals of radio, but it is a much more acerted,
Starting point is 01:52:02 guin-o-guin- into-comilla because this really generated much controversy. Now,
Starting point is 01:52:08 the people come and comment and things a favor and in-contra. The grabations
Starting point is 01:52:15 that had one of these investigators that form or construct this machine
Starting point is 01:52:20 mention a that the platics could be so prolonged as one
Starting point is 01:52:26 that's and to get the information that he was a they're
Starting point is 01:52:31 very convinced of your investigation and are being being able to the project even
Starting point is 01:52:37 were aberts to that any investigator provara his experiment but there had been a problem
Starting point is 01:52:45 nobody more more than William could make that this did make more strange
Starting point is 01:52:52 or so you if you said you say you know prove this Apparate,
Starting point is 01:52:56 the Spiricom, I want to contacter, what you're you're doing, you know, you know, you're not
Starting point is 01:53:01 only with Williams. Now, the conversations were very robotisadas, not it was not like the
Starting point is 01:53:07 words, but were words very robotisad and very synthesized that were like, voices like
Starting point is 01:53:12 a computer, not a voice natural like the we can't hear in the psychophonies. No,
Starting point is 01:53:19 there are proof concluientes that really existia this famous doctor that
Starting point is 01:53:24 he helped to build a construction, that he worked in the NASA principally
Starting point is 01:53:27 that he used to this apparel and there's the part
Starting point is 01:53:30 of the people mentioned that this was more for that these people
Starting point is 01:53:36 were to get marketing and start to have more
Starting point is 01:53:38 exposition so so many people think that this experiment
Starting point is 01:53:43 that is the spiritcom is completely false that really
Starting point is 01:53:47 were two were two loco to say exposition as investigators
Starting point is 01:53:56 but there are also the people who mentioned that yes, that is really was a apparate
Starting point is 01:54:00 that was this supposed doctor that he worked in the NASA this but you what you
Starting point is 01:54:06 do you think you know you know you know now now now
Starting point is 01:54:09 now that now now I'm that I'm mentioned I'm to be to the
Starting point is 01:54:13 mind that is by the side of the Vatican did
Starting point is 01:54:18 they're an an an an an The words of Christ in the cross.
Starting point is 01:54:25 How is it? No, me you know, no me you guys, oh, chronovisor. Exactly. Clonovysor. And it's
Starting point is 01:54:31 practically in the same decade, it's practically in the same moment of the history, and it would be the boom,
Starting point is 01:54:37 in those moments, to enter in contact with those other realities. Yes. For the
Starting point is 01:54:41 side of the Vatican, it's not not you know, because there's like a conspiration in all of
Starting point is 01:54:46 that thing, but we we're not, we're that we're with the chronovisor and we're
Starting point is 01:54:52 something that it's a little there that's the information but that no we know, there's going to remember
Starting point is 01:54:58 that in decades pastas when it's invululucrava someone who was sure about and then yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:04 Yeah, it was a result. So, well, then I don't see in how,
Starting point is 01:55:09 how is the status at 2025, but I think this to have been continued,
Starting point is 01:55:14 that's that's super clear. Now, now, there are to be if in
Starting point is 01:55:17 some time the area, the CIA or FBI in the States United
Starting point is 01:55:22 they did a second or another area of investigation
Starting point is 01:55:25 of a service secret to some other country. Because there times when
Starting point is 01:55:30 it's a thing that immediately they're about it. Yes, and they're they're
Starting point is 01:55:36 and they know, and they're experimenting, yeah down the water, that the
Starting point is 01:55:41 people not say, that's one of the point that the people mention in
Starting point is 01:55:45 contra of the SPICOM that came and never more he's
Starting point is 01:55:49 never more Spear Box, that's a year after the 2002 and the 2007, which is
Starting point is 01:55:57 what we actually we actually use in the explorations, but here here is more,
Starting point is 01:56:02 more, but different. It's more complex in the sense of that the words that are getting,
Starting point is 01:56:09 getting, and getting, and getting, many times are, many times are, but at times
Starting point is 01:56:14 me have occurred that are that are things or responses coherent to what
Starting point is 01:56:20 you're asking my pasto in some moment when I'm in a
Starting point is 01:56:24 cemetery and I remember that one one person was my first time and I say a person
Starting point is 01:56:31 when when you come you don't pise the tombas and I I'm
Starting point is 01:56:35 I'm I'm and I did equal and I no no no no I remember that I
Starting point is 01:56:41 go and I say I'm like I'm like with I'm because I'm so
Starting point is 01:56:45 I'm to put one to continue so when I was to
Starting point is 01:56:49 I said, I said, I'm permission. I'm the phrase and me says the
Starting point is 01:56:53 Spiritibox, passal it. Claritio, so, clarissimo, clearissimo, and all, like,
Starting point is 01:56:59 they're and I, so, signalando the apparato, no? So, I'm,
Starting point is 01:57:05 so, you can't say, well, it's been someone that's a person,
Starting point is 01:57:10 or, no, so, comes to other, uh, the other, but the
Starting point is 01:57:16 moment, in the moment, in the moment, in the moment that you go, pass, and you say, ah, car it. Well,
Starting point is 01:57:22 what's what happened a rathito that we're coming here in the studio. Oh, if it's true. Platicals,
Starting point is 01:57:28 what's what what happened? A bit, because you're going to say that I'm not I'm not saying. Well, here we're having.
Starting point is 01:57:35 We're having. We're talking about this theme of the demonios, the pactos, and all of that roll, and
Starting point is 01:57:42 of a repent the announcement, the logitip that has the luminosos of extra-normal, and we and we're
Starting point is 01:57:50 we're in he was like yeah he was this Paco and the he was three and the three and it was
Starting point is 01:57:57 and it was we're in the moment exact that we're about that because Johanan and he said ah halle
Starting point is 01:58:03 no it's panted thinking we're thinking we're thinking no the control
Starting point is 01:58:08 was yeah was more a few yeah it's yeah he was
Starting point is 01:58:12 he's he better he's better we better we better we we're we're
Starting point is 01:58:15 we're precisely in these socese when we talk about things. It's like
Starting point is 01:58:21 that we know, that's that we kind of, or we get a super clear that part
Starting point is 01:58:26 that we're that way. That's that's a much fear, you know. For that
Starting point is 01:58:29 you have much care of what it's because maybe maybe it might be
Starting point is 01:58:33 materialize. Ooh, and for those who are the episode solitos, much
Starting point is 01:58:39 careful. Yeah, those I'm going to be spent for there.
Starting point is 01:58:41 Exactly. Yeah, well, but, I think the most important is
Starting point is 01:58:45 to have the information and that every can get to their own conclusions, but I think that the
Starting point is 01:58:49 data, we're on specific, it's better because we're going to get to conclusions, and I think that
Starting point is 01:58:57 is the best for the people, and not it's not not to get to get in because with
Starting point is 01:59:04 that far, that much we want to we want to want to someone that someone that we just
Starting point is 01:59:08 we're doing, we do we do we're doing, we're the quantities that the quantities that we
Starting point is 01:59:13 solicited and when when we don't count, we've got we've done, we've done,
Starting point is 01:59:17 and they're going to be used to you're doing to find out of a lot of unlawful, I think is the voice
Starting point is 01:59:24 of the experience a person with much knowledge that has been years investigating different phenomena and
Starting point is 01:59:30 he had to find out of no, I don't know. I'm in secco because it was so my impetu
Starting point is 01:59:37 was so that I met but I really that I read books interview to the principal investigators
Starting point is 01:59:42 that were about the thing of the death. I wanted to know, I wanted to experimenter,
Starting point is 01:59:47 I got, I'm a objective, but the things not turned when it's when it's when it's
Starting point is 01:59:52 controlled, and it was for something because at the moment of that you start
Starting point is 01:59:59 to experimenter, not all is written, no, the regla, no, the rules, and not
Starting point is 02:00:04 are written and when you, you start to practice it and you, and you're
Starting point is 02:00:11 just to get things around, you begin to hear sound that even are recorded
Starting point is 02:00:16 as we've mentioned in the last few minutes I think the history changed. For that's important
Starting point is 02:00:21 that if you're a person, a person, desire to have seen his own their own
Starting point is 02:00:26 your own communications, to be the specialists, lea, study, analyze, sake
Starting point is 02:00:32 his own conclusions, and then after, if, after all this time and of
Starting point is 02:00:37 this cumul of information still desire to do you do with information. Now,
Starting point is 02:00:44 I'm going for the other side, Paco, that is the that I'm in every one of the interviews and
Starting point is 02:00:49 in the programs that I do do, I'm not for the fact of to have a contact with those energies
Starting point is 02:00:55 of the more than we go, jugando the Uiha, doing transcommunication or implementing
Starting point is 02:01:04 our lives any other other type of other type of that that can that serve
Starting point is 02:01:08 the contacto. Because we don't know who will to answer to the call of
Starting point is 02:01:13 us. No, we know. And there you can't get in a series of problems.
Starting point is 02:01:19 And not only you, your family too. All those who are all around. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:22 It's a problem very, uh, when, so if you have people,
Starting point is 02:01:28 people vulnerable, that is the great problem. Amigo, what good in vivo, of the
Starting point is 02:01:34 really, I'm very really, because much people, there's from his house,
Starting point is 02:01:39 it's a good susto, that, that's, that's, we're a, to give them
Starting point is 02:01:44 to get them to get these things that many times are many times are they, they're so they're incomodan,
Starting point is 02:01:52 that cause fear, that cause them and there's the father Gabriel, Amor, look,
Starting point is 02:01:56 he says, in the comments, what on Padre, this, no, the real,
Starting point is 02:02:02 my man, I was, I'm, so, you know, I think it's very very beautiful
Starting point is 02:02:06 when you interactu- when the people know, and has a major knowledge
Starting point is 02:02:10 of a theme in specific. I think that is very good and what I've said,
Starting point is 02:02:15 and since we've seen we've seen, is the fact that there's a very beautiful in
Starting point is 02:02:20 these moments with all the generators of content. And I think that that's doing that
Starting point is 02:02:25 the society understand these thematicas. And I put you the example of
Starting point is 02:02:29 that in the decade of the 90s when I initiated was the community paranormal
Starting point is 02:02:34 of a well, well, that not paranormal, the parapsicology. The
Starting point is 02:02:38 for one and the investigators Omni of the other and the other and there no there
Starting point is 02:02:43 a bus communicant to help us to do with with all those we're not that's not that's not
Starting point is 02:02:50 it's more if someone to be a friender you and now I've that has
Starting point is 02:02:55 changed and I think that's been has been has been made from those other
Starting point is 02:02:59 realities but me it's that it now can't this
Starting point is 02:03:04 because you have much experience many many experience, the my, and when yeah the
Starting point is 02:03:10 people listen to each one of us says, I think here I'm going to get to get. 100. Amigo,
Starting point is 02:03:16 before you can't repeat for your social, projects, platforms? Yes, sure,
Starting point is 02:03:22 as well, I'm, I've done three months, a new podcast that's called Encounters
Starting point is 02:03:29 Extraordinarious here in YouTube and in Spotify. So, see them, then the second,
Starting point is 02:03:36 Stubbepo, in the first was FEP, in the second Stove, Paco, in the third of the semester last, the Miercult, was Haciel. So, all those
Starting point is 02:03:43 Miercoles, at the 10 of the morning, is a new episode, both in YouTube, as in Spotify, so I'm so, so I'm going, stay very al-pendient. Because this Miercels,
Starting point is 02:03:53 Pac, you addelanto. This Miercores, we've even contacted to Ricardo Gonzalez, that came from the Argentina, I've done
Starting point is 02:04:01 to interview them in the city of Mexico, and well, to him, the extraterrestres, He said, the prophecy, he gave two
Starting point is 02:04:07 prophecies, one of them is, why are you are going to the aviones and for what what is what
Starting point is 02:04:15 is what is going to be going to those avions? Is that the being the mano in these has been
Starting point is 02:04:20 a new era. When a he said, the other of the aviones was a year after. When he
Starting point is 02:04:26 he was, when to him did it, he said, until that they started to get to falles
Starting point is 02:04:31 to the finales of the year past. But after a year and a minute
Starting point is 02:04:35 he gave the first prophecy that he didn't know when they were
Starting point is 02:04:38 that they were the impact of an asteroid in our planet the
Starting point is 02:04:45 message words more and that the next the next the
Starting point is 02:04:48 next the morning the person human will learn
Starting point is 02:04:56 how so how so the life in the but
Starting point is 02:05:00 also can know how it is destroy the
Starting point is 02:05:05 life in a world. That's a good. I, I, I, I,
Starting point is 02:05:11 I, I'm, the interview was going to the interview, the interview, it was going to, but
Starting point is 02:05:18 me said Johanan, not it's all the, the, the, of the,
Starting point is 02:05:24 the, the, I said, how, it's all, it's a, there, there,
Starting point is 02:05:28 there, there, the interview, the interview, the to the first prophesy. No, no, it's a,
Starting point is 02:05:34 look, I'm going to, interviewer with people that me says that. When I was interviewing, the the pill
Starting point is 02:05:44 was gonna be chinita. Well, is that we're that we're for the people that we're exactly.
Starting point is 02:05:48 We're a menace very strong. 22 of December of 232. Elon Moss now proponing
Starting point is 02:05:54 to start to poplar Marte. Well, just, the day that said, the day that
Starting point is 02:06:00 he spoke Donald Trump that gave message to the nation. Yeah, the bandera of the United of the
Starting point is 02:06:05 United will get a planet Marte. Of the man of who? DeLone.
Starting point is 02:06:09 DeVos. That's really, I'm going with a susto. I go, the theme of
Starting point is 02:06:15 the prophecies always cause a fear, always causes fear, there's there's a
Starting point is 02:06:22 reason for the way there are these prophecies or these messages and when they
Starting point is 02:06:27 have to have been with something that can be for there. I think that much
Starting point is 02:06:32 people enter in panic, but we're going to let us we're going to we're going to we're going to I think you
Starting point is 02:06:39 I was over other thing with this, with this interview with this contactado and when I do I'm when I'm
Starting point is 02:06:45 to say no that's all there's a there other prophecy? I said what other prophecy
Starting point is 02:06:50 I don't know? And that me da the asteroid and that I mean I when
Starting point is 02:06:54 when I when I when I when I'm the human will be how
Starting point is 02:07:00 how is the how is the origin of the life in a planet, but also they're going to know how to destroy the life in a planet. Palabras, more, words, less. That's what, how strong, my God, oh, God, oh, God. Oh, God. No, no, no. What, no. What's the Thanks to you. Thanks, that are here with us. Here I see
Starting point is 02:07:29 you guysel I'm a salute that says that he is a time in the production.
Starting point is 02:07:33 That's a little a brauma to do you. Saludos, Familia. We're much.
Starting point is 02:07:38 Passenla a bonito. Disrude this this little Saturday. I don't you know
Starting point is 02:07:41 on the domino. Lindo Saturday. And we see the new episode and we're not
Starting point is 02:07:47 a new episode. That no we can't put down where we talk about another of my
Starting point is 02:07:52 favorite. Cue see much family we'll see Bye-bye. Bye.
Starting point is 02:08:26 the good Johanah. Sure. If you're going to take an awuita tranquil, no going to be a lot of all going to
Starting point is 02:08:31 be a lot of so to keep to get into much more than. Come as a bollillo so much a lot of you.
Starting point is 02:08:37 Many say much. Saludus until the next. You know what I'm going to be.

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