Extra Dirty with Hallie Batchelder - Being a relationship-phobe & dealing with rejection *ft. David Weltz*

Episode Date: April 2, 2026

Hi sexies- seasonal depression is OVER and we have another great friend on the pod, it's David Weltz!! 💋 Hallie and David talk about cliques, David getting bullied by a girl in high school, and him thinking that Hallie hated him the first time they met... 😭 Hallie comes clean about retiring her club groupie era, being secure before a relationship, the best NYC nightlife, being an ugly runner, & their ideal first dates!  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Like if I went on Fear Factor and I was putting a tub with spiders or snakes, I would be fine. What if you were putting a tub with James Charles? Let's get Extra Dirty. Okay, welcome back to X Journey Bar. We have a very, very handsome guest today, Jake Welts, welcome. Thank you for having me. Are you happy to be here? Are you nervous?

I'm a little nervous, but this is like, this is a really nice setup. This is like your show, Waltz & Bruises. No, this is way nice. I know, we were behind a bar. Yeah, I like it. We got the Guinness ready to roll. Don't you feel like kind of safe behind a bar? I do.

Like, I feel the most comfortable behind a bar. Of course. And we always find ourselves right next to each other at the bar. I think that's the only time we've really hung out is at the bar or at the afters. Have we ever, like, do anything sober together, really ever? We wanted to do brunch one time, but... We're gonna do brunch after. That's what we're pre-gaming for.

That's what we're pre-gaming for. Is brunch. Exactly. What are we drinking right now? We are gonna have some Guinness, but you said you were going to show off your chugging capabilities. Yeah. This is actually a fun fact about me. Like I don't think people understand like how fast I can chug. Okay. I'll do it. But like it's Guinness, yo. All right. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Let's see what you got. Should we go out the same? All right.

Three, two, one. Oh my God, howie? Oh my God. No. No. I'm the throat goat. Yeah, you are. Ask your friends. Neil liked that one. I love it. Okay, let's do like a little bit of an intro. Where are you from? Like, I don't know the basics about you. So I am from Rumsden, New Jersey.

Okay. Born and raised. Went to regular high school until my freshman year. Uh-huh. And then I went to a tennis academy. You play tennis? Yes. Are you like good?

I played D1 and then I quit a junior year. Where'd you play D1? Mom at the University. I say local, New Jersey boy. You know my friend Lauren? I feel like everyone from New Jersey plays tennis. Yes, yes, yes. Have you guys had this conversation?

Yes. I grew up with Madison. Yeah, I met Lorne once or twice at 20 makes to actually go in it. Now, do you play club, tennis? I'm getting back into it. I hated it for a while because it was like a job. Yeah. I kind of like tore everything apart in my life.

But now I'm like, have a sick, like, I want to get back into it. Yeah, I think tennis is like one of the hardest sports ever. Do you play? Have you ever played? No, but like my friend Paige Lorenz is married to like a professional. Tommy Paul. Tommy Ball. Like Tommy Wall.

Legend. So like, we've tried to play. We had Tommy like, tried to. to like help us swing ones. He is a beast. And it's a lot harder than you think. And like you have to like be able to like jump back and forth in the court.

Yeah, you gotta be fit. And you know I have no hand eye coordination at all. We were talking about this. You wanna join the kickball. I'm trying to get in that kickball team. I told West I was like, I wanna join the kick ball and he laughed in my face. Yeah, he said don't share the link with Hallie.

He goes, I go, I can like kick a ball. He's like, we take this shit very seriously. We won last year. We went to the, the bar with our trophy. Yeah. And I was like, maybe I'll just be a cheerleader of the sidelines.

Yeah. Is it a girl and guys kickball team? Yeah. They get very serious, apparently. No, apparently, like it's... I love that, though. Yeah. Do I look like an athlete to you?

You do. What sports do you picture me playing? Did you play sports growing up or not really? I would like you to guess what I played. Soccer? No. Basketball? You think I fucking played basketball, yo?

No. What sport did you play? I, so I went to an all-girls Catholic school. where you like had to play a sport each season. Yeah. Or else you had to do theater each season. And I was like, I'm not being a fucking geek. Like, I'm not doing theater.

Although I think I would have been really good at it. I had a role in Shakespeare once. I think you would have killed it. We had to do like a Shakespeare play in seventh grade once. Yeah. And I had like one of the most lines, my class. And I was the jokester. And I honestly slayed it.

Gonday. Good job. What was the, I didn't ever show up in the yearbook or anything. I left school early. So were you nominated for anything? in high school? I don't know if we did superlatives, but like we probably did fake ones.

They probably got like moose outgoing. I was really friends with everyone. There you go. And I was like in a clicky class, like all girls Catholic, like let's be real. So there was like everyone had different friend groups and I made sure I was friends with all one. Yeah, high school was tough.

Were you cool in high school? I, no. I left regular high school my freshman year. I got picked on. My bully freshman year was a girl. You were bullied by a girl? I was bullied by a senior girl and she would take my cookie every Friday.

What did you bring a cookie every Friday? But she was huge. Ask anyone from my town, she's like a body builder. She's built, tall. I was just a short little scrawny kid playing tennis at the time. That's always funny. You were a jokester, class clown? I was a jockster.

I was like class clown until like, I got like kind of pretty in eighth grade. And then the boy started to like me. And then I went from class clown to like. Who's that? Batty and training. Daddy. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Um, wait, back to sports. Yeah. So I was a field hockey goalie, an ice hockey goalie. No, not an ice hockey goalie. A field hockey goalie, lacrosse goalie, and I played ice hockey. Okay. And when I played ice hockey, I accidentally tripped one of my, um, own teammates, actually

got my, like, stick stuck in her skate. And she was, that happened a few times. She was in an neck brace for six weeks. Oh my God. Yeah. Do you feel bad? Did you feel bad? I felt really bad.

And like, I was the type of person that would, like score on her own net. It was really bad at sports. What if somebody took you skating at Rockefeller Center for a date? Would you ever do that? It wouldn't be like, it wouldn't be like my best.

I'm actually not a bad skater, but I'm not like good at like running down the ice. Yeah, no. With a stick. With a weapon. With a weapon. So when did you move to New York City?

Moved to New York City three years ago. It's been three years here. And what did you come here to do? I came here doing tech sales. Okay, was that fun? Terrible. Horific. I did the whole, after tennis, didn't know what to do with myself, moved to Nashville, went to the commercial real estate route, sucked at it, went to tech sales, was the personality hire, hated it. Yeah.

Didn't know what to do with myself. And then I fumbled upon this. Now we're doing this. I feel like everyone kind of just like somewolds into this. Yeah. So you have a show, Waltz & Bruises, which I've been on. It's great, by the way. Thank you.

How do you come up with the name? Great question. Like, are you actually? accident prone, like. It just came up out of nowhere. Because your last name is Welts. Welles. And I was like, what goes with Welch, Welts and bruises?

But we've talked about changing the name of the show. Yeah. But I kind of like it. My producer is obsessed with it. So how long have you been doing the show? Seven months. Who was your first guest? My first guest was Emily Jane.

She was like my first guest at the bar. My first few shows were in Central Park and they were horrific. They were so bad. Were you trying to do like that kind of like series where like they go up to people and that are walking by. Yeah, you have to be a certain type of socially anxiety fearing person to get away with that. I hate filming in public too. And my guy at the time wasn't really experienced and we realized after we did all the interviews that the mics weren't on.

Oh, yeah. And it was a learning. It was all about learning. It was all about learning and growing. I look at those videos like once every week to like remind myself how far we've gotten because I always get caught. up and like what's we talked about this yes what's next what what were you going to do yeah the future and i'm like sometimes just take a step back and appreciate what you're doing yeah i always say like my biggest competition is like myself today because you always just want to like level up

you've ever seen matthew mccanay's speech no this is your homework for tonight okay now i'm not this is your homework you're going to look at matthew mccanahy's oscar speech okay he's like who's your hero it's me 10 years from now and keeps going to like that that's kind of how i think Exactly. I'm going to look it up. Fires me up. Who's like you're a dream guest? You asked me the same question.

Matthew McConae. Really? Yeah. Him. Oh, yeah, I would love that. Gotta pull some strings. God. Yeah.

Him. We gotta go tennis route. Let's get Tommy on one day. I bet Tommy would do it. I would love to get Tommy on. I could so see him doing that. So you really like tennis. Love tennis.

Do you really open? Every year. Are you going this year? How did I not know this about you? Well, we didn't become friends until a few months. months ago. I know how did we fall into the... I was kind of like hiding from everyone for a while. Wait, let's talk about the first time we met. You thought I hated you. Yes, I thought you could not stand me. I don't know why. I'll tell you why. We were at, we were at Pete,

where was it, Pete's Tavern? Was that bar? Wasn't it the pretty bar? It was Pete's Tavern. Yeah. And the person I was working with at the time, we both know, you come over walking to the table and sit down. I'm like, hi. You go, hi. I'm scared. I'm scared. I'm scared. We're just sitting there drinking, not really talking, and I'm just, I was in my head. I think that was after like the Amazon influencer event.

Yes, it was. Everyone was there. I was drained from that because it's just like a lot of interactions with everyone on your for you page. Yeah. And it's a lot. Yeah. So I was just like, I don't, I can't speak anymore.

But now we, I get kind of nonverbal. Me too. And people like always read me as a bitch What do our friends say they're like when Dave's ready to leave for the For the last hour of the night I just like put it on my hood and don't talk to anyone Yeah you do that and everyone's like Dave are you okay I'm like I'm fine Is that the kind of drunk you are though where you get mute because I get really mute I don't get rowdy

Yes no I don't get rowdy I get rowdy for these Yeah And like talking like interviews I get rowdy When I'm out with my friends complete opposite Yeah There's like 10 to 20 minutes where I'm like yes This is life. This is awesome. But you're not like on the table.

No. We are friends with some guys that are like that. Who? How did you get in that little friend group you're in? I was introduced to Keon from Justin and Joey. I met Justin and Joey in the summer just randomly. Just randomly? Yeah.

But you know like some other influencers, right? Or just maybe from New Jersey? You know the twins kind of, right? I know the twins. I used to date their best friend for four years. Oh. And then obviously grew up in the same area as like Saturday. Alex and them okay but I only met Alex once met Sally a few times

Sally hangs out yeah I don't see her a lot New York City circle I feel like a lot I see her all the time yeah they all went to RBC red being Catholic what's RBC those high school that all of them went to Red Bank Red Bank right next to Rumson RBC RBC what apartment was your first neighborhood in Greenwich Village Greenwich Village was beautiful but I live in the basement and I think there was mold in the basement and I would get sick all the time Yeah. But I miss it a lot. It was very pretty. I used to hate New York City. Did you see rats?

All the time. Not in the apartment. Oh, yeah. Outside. Did you- That's like my biggest year. Is there a cockroach or a rat or anything like that? Or a spider even? Spine? See, we were, like if I went on Fear Factor and I was put in a tub with spiders or snakes, I would be fine. What if you were put in a tub with James Charles? I'd be fine. What are you scared of?

Nothing. You're not scared of a single thing. Heights? Bad. Jinks. Bad. Bad, but you never go skydiving? Never.

Would you like climb the Eiffel Tower? You couldn't, no, you couldn't pay me. Okay. I went to ask me these videos. I was in Mahoya and we're just climbing up this little cliff. And it's just me holding on to like the side of the cliff because I thought I was going to fall over. It was terrible. I don't love heights either.

Do you ever watch those videos like on TikTok or? something where like they're jumping off. Yeah, it's not, yeah, no. But I don't like heights either. No. But I really don't like snakes. I don't know, I got a tattoo on. Yeah, you have a tattoo of a snake.

I was like manic on our Tuesday. We're getting a tattoo together. We should. On the hand. What should we get? We talked about this. When? Oh, is it the night of Swift's last week.

Wait, I love Swifts. Yeah, we had a good time. And we had a great time. He's a really fun night. Boy, Dylan's the best. He's really nice. Yeah. And that show, when he comes on my show,

So it's going to be funny. You're going to produce... No, I'm going to come to that. We're going to wear robes. Yes, you're going to wear robes. And he's going to do splits on the bar. And he's going to do splits. Oh, yeah, we did talk about this year. I was pretty drunk as I'm not going to lie.

Do you watch his TikToks? I do. The way he transitions his face, it's a talent. What are some of you never expected about New York before moving to New York City? I never expected to, like, meet and become friends with the people I'm with right now. Yeah. Like I've seen your stuff before we became friends. Like I never in the million years thought we'd be as close.

Sitting right here. Never. I know. We did become fast friends. Like I consider you a close friend of mine. No, we're close friends now. Very close. I consider you a close friend.

And the people I'm surrounded with, like, my friends from home, I love them and they're always going to be close to me. But like the people I'm with now, it's like, they're like my people. I love them. What's your experience? What's something that? That I didn't expect before I moved in New York City. You know, it took me a while.

for me to feel like acclimated in this environment, I just like never felt like New York was like my home for a long time. Yeah. I always felt like, because this was always placed me and my family visited. We'd stay in hotels. And once I first moved here, I was just like, everyone just like is always on the go, go. I feel like everyone's just like on a mission all the time.

Like no one's really just like chilling and relaxing. I also moved here during COVID. It was a different time. That's right. So it like took me a minute to like really just like get in a group of things. But now it feels like home. Like when I go to Boston, oh, should I do the same? Yeah, join.

Are you going to the Boston Marathon? No, but I donated to Aiden. I'm going. Hammered, I don't even know how much I donated. That's like a new thing of mine, all that's junk. I'm going to just start donating to people's marathon causes. I did it to her sister, I believe, as well. Like hundreds of dollars to Aidan.

Yeah, you want to donate me some money. Everyone take my phone away when I'm drunk. All right, I'm going to ask you some New York-related questions. Hit me. Let's hear it. What neighborhood is the best nightlife? Soho. I like Soho. Nightlife, yo?

Yeah, I like Beyond the Pale. I like Delta Charlie. I like those spots. Oh, yeah, I guess that's a good... I didn't even know those were... Yeah, call me out. I didn't even know those were in Soho. That's so... Spring lounge...

Oh, yeah. That whole street's pretty good. Yeah. What do you like? Because Beyond the Pills. Spring Lounge, Mulberries. Are you a club person? Depends on what type of person you go out.

I used to be a club rat. I'm retired. I mean, I'll still help the club if there's good group going. But like, I used to be going out every single day of the week. I was a Tao groupie. Oh. Do you know what Tao is? Of course.

So, like, Tao hospitality owns a bunch of different restaurants, bars, and clubs. So what would happen is like you go to a comp, massive Tao dinner with like models everything's out paid for and a bunch of like cool people come in celebrities, athletes, etc. Promoters. Promoters. And then after you go to a club, Monday through Saturday, we would go to a different thing every single night. Yeah. Did you ever talk to a promoter? I've talked off a promoter. And how they are like the craziest people. I've never met a normal promoter. I just don't know how you get into that line of work. But this promoter was really hot. Where is he promote? He was just promoting. Oh. If I were to like tell my

22 year old self, give her any advice, I would probably say don't do that. I mean, why not? You live once, Halley. You have the experiences. It's fun. You've lived a very exciting life. I know. You've done nothing wrong in my book. Yeah, not in my book either. I've definitely seen some things, love some things. Yeah. All the things. Everyone, whoever says, Oh my like they're just jealous honestly because you're living the best life. I mean hate to say it it's your 20s your 20s you have to fucking rip it up if you don't you're living in the best city in the world you're in your early 20s mid 20s I don't get FOMO for people that are like in relationships and are like married and having kids

because I'm 28 almost 29 and that's what people are doing that's all my friends in Jersey I'd rather be doing this too yeah that's what you're here are you a relationship person I am. Do you like tend to be in them more than being single? Yeah. I'm actually a relationship phobe. I think everything ties back to your childhood. I was alone my whole childhood.

I feel like I just always want to connect with someone. Like I got to talk to a therapist. I really have to be with a therapist. Like you don't know how to be alone anything? Yeah. What scares you about being alone? I don't know. It's just like we've talked like just having, if once I find that person in my corner who like actually looks like or feels like they care about me, I'm like, okay, that's my person.

Yeah. And I got like, get out of that mindset. My mindset, and this is nothing to do with your situation. But like, I'm like, I could never be in a relationship right now because I just don't feel like I'm like fully secure with myself. And I feel like if you're insecure and in a relationship, like your insecurities become super like highlighted. You can't hide them. Yeah. That's a good point.

Like I feel like weaker when I'm in a relationship. Like I feel like I hold less power. When was your last year? You haven't been in a relationship for a while. I haven't been in a relationship. I've been in many situationships where I've liked people. But I fall out of like very quickly because I swear I have ADHD that with men. Yeah. I get like, oh my God, that sucks.

Too much. Then also like a new shiny thing. No, I see some of these guys text her. I'm like, this is too much. When she's like, Dave, this is too much. I'm like, yeah, this is too much. No, I know. Like, guys, chill out.

I do. Like just like chill. People have to chill. I know. They're trying. They're texting like it's chatGBT. Which one are you referring to right now? You don't have to say his name.

The French dude. Oh, yeah. Well, he was a lot. Yeah. You know, he tried to sue me. Yes, we talked about this too. Yeah. And Chey Margot got rid of him.

Good job, Shay. Bye, Che. Bye, French guy. Yeah, bye. Yeah, he was like, I'm going to sue you. And I was like, okay. You're not going to do anything because you have nothing. You're nothing.

Now, has he tried anything? No. I know, he was supposed to send me a cease and desist. But, like, I don't know if you know anything about a cease and desist. Like, there's nothing to cease anymore. Already said my shit. Like, I'm not going to talk about you again, except for right now, I guess. But, like, that's not how that works, babe.

Nope. Also, like, a cease and desist would not shut me up. That's what I love about you. You just say what you feel. I just say what I feel. Have you ever signed an NDA? Once. Once?

Once. For, like, a person? Yeah, for a person. Really? Yeah. We'd say. Yeah. Oh god, that's the first time saying it.

Yes, Sons. Yes, one's okay. Yeah, so I guess if you broke that NDA, you'd be getting in some trouble. But, like, I didn't sign anything else. No, you didn't say anything. You're good. I've never broken an NDA. He has nothing.

No, he has nothing. Absolutely nothing. Okay, let's go back to New York City related questions. Favorite bar in New York City besides this one? Right now, I'm going Delta. to Charlie. I feel like that's been a great spot recently. I know. I feel like I got in trouble with one of the bouncers there once. Did you? Is that the bar? Or it's like you walk in, tables and then like the bars like right there. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like they got mad at me once.

Oh, for what? Because they were trying to kick people out. It was like 3 a.m. or something. And I was like, no. And he was like, get the fuck out of here. And I was like, wow. He's just had some really fun times there. Yeah. It's been really fun. I really like Swifts, though. Swiss is a great spot. You can't go wrong. I'm not a big bar. I'm not a big bar. I'm not a big bar. girl besides my life oh a two stand has been a vibe too recently it's too small and like i don't know it's just is that where you're hosting your little jfk junior no we're posting it at park gate you're gonna see the videos later and she's gonna get so can i show you the video me it made did you not see on tic-tok i took it down before can i just give the people some context yeah

i made a tic-tok the other day talking about how i thought it was so cringy that people were showing up gathering in a space. I mean, it's on that deep, but they were showing up in doing a JFK Jr. Lookalike contest. It was very cringe. But this is going to be fun. Well, are you guys participating or are you judging? No, we're judging. I'm done at the hat. I had to for the fun. It was fun.

Okay, I guess it's fun. You know we're not taking it seriously. I know we're not taking it seriously. I know if you're judging it, you're not taking it seriously. But there's people showing up to the JFK Jr. lookalike contest and they're dead ass. Yes. Well, you said in your TikTok, it's just a brunette guy. It's not like it's like anything crazy.

And they were winning 250 bucks, yo. It's nothing crazy. $2.50. Literally go to every, go to Midtown, you'll see thousands of JFK juniors in the finance world. Midtown? Go anywhere. Times Square? Anywhere.

Yeah, Midtown finance. The whole hub over there. All JFK juniors. I mean, I don't know. But like I also say it goes for the girls too. Do you see how many headbands have seen in the past? two weeks. I haven't really looked into that part. Like, so what's she worked for Calvin Klein? Yeah, and she was like kind of a girl boss and like she was cool as fuck.

Change style. It sounds like Cape Moss. Okay. Cool. And now girls are just following and I think girls watching love story right now are getting this impression that she was like a Pilates princess and she was like a corporate girl and she dressed really corporate chic with the headband, blah blah blah. That all might be true, but Carol Missette was also like a chain smoker and she was definitely at the afters. Oh yeah. Oh my God. Oh yeah. She would have been the afters. She was friends of Kate Mossio.

That is cool. She like discovered her. No, she discovered the Calvin Klein guy she was seeing. Oh. Like really, really handsome. Well, from in real life or the show? Like, in real life? I didn't see the actual guy in their life is like the hottest guy.

I saw the guy in the show, good looking guy. I mean, he looks exactly like him. Okay. Like, even probably hotter. I didn't think she was that attractive. I... Is it the vibe? It's just like she's like...

I think she has aura beyond, like beyond what people can explain. Yeah. She just has the cool, sheat girl vibe. Yeah. And the way she like walked JFK Jr. like a dog in the movie, I mean, in the show. Like, she just like seemed like she had it figured out. She did. Yeah.

She did have it figured out. But I don't judge you for hosting. So I think that style, it's really, I wish I knew about the style before because I will have rock those hats. The. Yeah. You just see everyone doing it now. I'm like, I haven't seen that guy do it. Oh, I've seen many guys in West Village walking the backwards hat.

No way. And they're on a city bike and it's like, it's not hitting. You see it. Yes. I would, see that's not good. There's a guy at Swift's the TikTok on viral. He's wearing the backwards hat. And I feel bad for him.

He's just trying to fit in. He's just trying to fit in and have bitches come up to him. That's what makes it, I think, a little pathetic to me is because they're like, this is how I'll get girls. Yeah. But he does a little bit like JFK. It's just some guy, five foot eight guy. But it goes to the girls too.

Five cat, fat guy from Penn State. Yeah. But same for the girls. They're like, this will get me a JFK Jr. Lookalike. If I wear a fucking headband, that's too tight on my head. Yeah. And split the part like all the way over here.

No. You can't pull it off. Not it, babe. Not to be a hater, but like, for this one specific thing, like, I have to hate it a little bit. All right, favorite restaurant? Recently, it's been Oresh. Oresh. Oresh. And you've gone to Oresh. I mean, you know how I feel about any restaurant owned by Eugene and George.

That includes 86 Corner Store and now Oresh. George is the man. Also, the food is really good. Yeah. It's like the perfect Mediterranean-style topist food ever. Yeah. It's really, Amelia's is good too. Two cheese, all those spots.

I love Two cheese. Two cheese is great. How do you know about two cheese? How do you know about two cheese? How do you know. I know. Yeah, they do have rich sauce. Rich, rich sauce.

Rich sauce. But Tucci's like my parents' favorite restaurant right now. So good. It's a vibe too. It's, yeah. Do you sit upstairs or downstairs? Downstairs. Bond Street's a vibe too.

If you're looking for a vibe while eating, Bon Street's probably my favorite. Yeah. Because they play Aesab Rocky. They play. all that stuff. You do. Yeah. We should go to wrong street soon. Please. And then zero bond street or zero.

You go to zero bond. I haven't been to zero. I'll bring you to zero bond. Oh, Jackson Bond, sorry. Jackson Bond is like a little bit further down. Yeah. Well, yeah, we'll go zero bond. We'll go to zero bond one time. Have you been a shame or go? No. I'll bring you there first. Most overrated neighborhood in New York City. I'm going to go West Village. I would go with that too. I think. I like, Loki hate the West Village. Yeah, I mean, where I'm staying right now is incredible, but like the going out, it's, it's not what it used to be anymore. No, and people used to move, I think it got a little bit oversaturated.

Yeah. I think people went, we're going from Murray Hill, Kipps Bay, straight into East Village. East Village, you think? Yeah, East Village, Fidey. Fidey's having their moment right now, especially with Oldmates there. Oh, yeah, I guess old mates is great. Oh, we forget, yeah. Yeah, we forgot old mates is a great bar.

But West Village, it's just like, if you're, you're just like, if you're, old mates is great. looking for a safe building that is like newly updated you shouldn't go to west village no it's all old walk-ups i'm on the fifth floor and i'm getting my work i'm getting my steps in every day hitting the glutes yeah i'm hitting the glutes getting the calves and that actually is fun it's fun it's fun this is this is nice it's cool yeah it's connected oh no shit yeah alexander wing oh look at them i love alexander wing it's like one of my favorite brands i've never heard I was in your way. I'm not heard of it Alexana Way out.

I'm really not in the fashion world like you should be. What's like your favorite clothing brand? You got Todd Snyder, Buck Mason, Abercrombie, Okay. Zara. Yeah, I guess you're not really in there. Avercromby is actually making a big comeback. Good stuff.

What should I look at? If I'm going to start getting into fashion. I think for a guy. We're going to be out in the Hamptons this summer, right? Mm-hmm. Which I wear. It's all the basics. But if you're going to go for like a fun shirt, like look at Rude.

But if you're going to do basics, like for men, I would do like theory or events. Theory. I have theory. Theory is good. I like to stick to the basics. Basics is good. All guys need is like a nice black t-shirt, nice white t-shirt. Yep. In like a jacket, flannel situation.

I agree with you. Yeah. I think when I see Belenciaga, it's an ick. No, but I think Stone Island's cool. Yeah. Do you know what that is? Yes, I do. Okay.

I feel like that's good, bougie eye brand. But Rude is like my favorite. Latest you've stayed up in New York City. Oh. With Hallie. Probably. Having slept. Yeah.

We did that recently. Yeah. We did not sleep. He rolled over. Go to the bar. Go to breakfast. Yeah. We were at the bar at 7.30 in the morning.

Yeah. And then just rolled over. That was probably my scariest. Terrible scary. I haven't ripped it like that since then. No. You can only do that legally. I think once in a while.

Yeah, that's not good for the body. I don't know how people do that all the time. No, it was, people don't do that. You think people do that all the time? I think some of your friends do. Like, but like I've recently, like, I went to about like 8 a.m. the other day. Yeah. But then.

But then you went for a reset. You went, you went, where did you go? Florida? You think I'm resetting in Florida? Did you reset? No, yo. I'm out. You think I'd go to warm weather once.

This is the issue with warm weather. Oh, is your seasonal depression over? Yes, I'm back. You're back. And I got a lot of Botox recently, so I feel like I look refreshed. I saw Libby's TikTok of you walking on the West Side Highway wearing Prada and jeans. Yeah, what about it? No, you can't wear that on the West Side Highway, Halley.

Why? What do you mean? You have to dress up like you're working out. No. No, but you don't make fraud on the West Side Highway. No one thinks I'm working out. Okay. You think people are like, oh, Hallie is going to work out.

Would you ever run on the West Side Highway? It's my biggest nightmare. I literally bumped into like six old people. I got bodied. I felt like I was in a stampede. Everyone running on the West Side Highway the other day, the first beautiful day of the year. I just got ran over.

I could just see Hallie just like, yeah. Like if anyone were to like accidentally get trampled and murdered on the West Side Highway, it would probably be me. I stepped on. I wish I was really. I wish we I wish we get up because now I will have been dying. My biggest fear is getting is running in public. Oh, it's horrific.

So you know I got to New York City Marathon and I didn't run? Why? Well, I got appendicitis. That was one thing. Okay, that's a good excuse. I deferred it and I missed the, I had a guaranteed entry this year and I missed the three week window to sign back in. So I missed it. But I did run for a few weeks trying to get into it last.

year and I hated Pete like I was like oh my god I got to like run in these places where no one sees me it's my biggest here and when you see an ugly runner like props to them I've really thin legs so like I just all I picture is like someone running behind me and then looking and looking at my legs my stroke when you see an ugly runner it's tough but honestly respect to them because they're doing more than I do I don't think I need to be doing cardio that much though I should probably like you see like the fast wall up with the weights yeah well your brother I saw you're working out with your brother. Yeah, because he thinks I need to, like, build muscle.

Can he be my personal trainer? It's what he does. I would love. He's got to give me a sheet or something. I won't. I'll let him know. I'm going to talk to him. And, like, Sammy, I think he should just train all, like, the influencers.

Yeah. He's really good at it. I mean, look at his, he's ripped. He's jacked. He's jacked. And I'm really sore today. I didn't do much. Your sister teaches Pilates, too.

Yeah, I don't know where they went wrong with me. There must have been a mutation in our DNA. You look like you like Pilates though. I used to love Pilates, but I go through phases where I don't do anything. I overindulge in everything in life. You know, I like whether that's drinking, but if I like get into exercising, I overdo it. If I like start hooking up with people, I overdo it. If I start going like-

You've been good with that. What? Hucking up with people. About doing it? Yeah. Yeah. on a run. But then I go through phases where I don't hang up with anyone for months, like six months. Yeah.

I don't like that run as much. It's bad run. Yeah. I overindulge in like solitude. Were you on the run when we first started talking? Like when you first came friends, were you on the run or were you ending that dry spell? I feel like you're transitioning a little bit. Yeah, I was in transition mode.

I was in a dry spell. It wasn't that long. It was like a couple months, October to December. Since the new year, I've been fine. Something's been in there. Something's been there. Something's been there. And it's been me. Yep. In the air. And everyone's air. And now the weather's getting nice now too.

Yeah. Forget about it. I went on a dry swell over the summer, which is like the worst time I'm on a dry spell. Because like I feel like the summer just like single vibes. Everyone was out and like not hibernating. But I have a good feeling about the summer. This summer is going to be awesome. I feel like I'm talking to like eight guys right now.

From the city. Spread out across the world. Whoa. You got to like make sure they're separate. Actually that's, I'm pretty bad about doing those. What's the one that we were talking about that night at Swift's? You showed me. Yeah, that was the guy was supposed to go on a date with yesterday.

Oh, and you bailed. I just like, I don't really date. Where was the date going to be? He wanted to go like a restaurant. See, that's first date. No. What do you think your ideal first date is? Just keep it like too much.

Like just just go get a drink. Get a drink? Yeah. Like rent in 10, get a drink. Middle. Yeah. Like do like commitment. No, food on the first date to is a bad call.

Yeah. Dinner? You're committing to at least a few hours. A few hours and three courses. Yeah. And then you feel bad because they're going to pay for you obviously. Yeah, obviously. What do you think about splitting the bill?

What? How do you split? Never. Oh my God, no. Unless. you're dating the person for a very long time. If you're talking to someone and you're in the talking stage and you're taking them out on dates,

you should definitely pay for the bill. I also think if you plan the date, you should be paying the bill. Yeah. You know, if you invite them on a date. Well, let me, let me, let me rephrase this. I think I should always pay for the dinners and the guys should always pay for the dinners.

But like if you're dating somebody, like, if the girl should put out. Yeah, the girl should put out all the time. All the time. Dinner, pull out, pull out, put out. Put out. Definitely pull out. Put out, pull out. I'll pay for dinner. Exactly. Exactly. What's your favorite place to go for dinner? I do like ZZs. I do like the 86, like we talked about.

Corner store, obviously, one of my favorites. I weirdly like St. Theo's, which is kind of random. Crazy take. I think that's a crazy take. It's a crazy take because... Tucci. Tucci is awesome. Yeah.

Shea Margot is really good food too. Yeah. So what's the deal with Shea? It's a member spot, but they have dinner? Yeah. So it's like a food forward members club, but it like gets lit at night. Yeah, I mean, I hate that sentence that just came out of my mouth. It gets lit.

It gets lit at night. It gets lit, guys. I feel like members clubs, it like curates good crowds. You get yourself in these, I feel like, weird conversations. You've had some crazy stories from these clubs. I know, which is why they're beneficial to me because I have a podcast. But, yeah, I guess, wait, you told me you've never been to Zirubon or Sharmal, so what do you mean? I've never gone to a members club in New York City.

So why do you think that thing? From what my friends say and from what I've seen and what I've heard from all of you, sounds like it gets a little crazy. Yeah. It's a little, little hunger games type of stuff. Yeah, some dicey characters sometimes. Yeah. Okay, I guess you have a point there.

But that's fun. It's fun to get out. there like you said you're young in the city you live once why not just do something absolutely crazy it's not gonna I do crazy things all the time you do why I try to go to the Bahamas with that fucking weird freak but you canceled I canceled because I thought he was gonna kill me and stuff me with cocaine or something you got you a jet right yeah but now I don't believe any of that that's true yeah because I got so many DMs about him how he's a serial killer killer

liar all the above yeah one tour seat thing worth the hype walking the Brooklyn Bridge oh that's a good one walking you have I just got into walking it's should we walk the Brooklyn Bridge you want to walk the Brooklyn Bridge not right after this not after this but I'm saying yeah I could walk a baby it's really nice let's walk the baby let's walk the baby let's walk the baby let's walk the baby no walk the BB the BB the Brooklyn Bridge okay I thought you're saying baby I was trying I was to ask her, are you okay? Well, baby. We'll walk the Brooklyn Bridge. Favorite park. I think my favorite park would be like a dog park. I love dogs. I like battery park. Oh, that kind of park.

Dog parks are fun. The dog park in Thompson Square. Bree always goes to that one too. I know, but she has a dog. I think it would be weird if I showed up. Just watch the dogs. When you never get a dog? No. I feel like you would love a dog. I'm not, I feel like you would love a dog. I think like I can barely keep a plant alive. Like I don't, I wouldn't water that. So how could I keep a little dog alive? Well, you could get somebody to take care of the dog while you're... No, I wouldn't want to do that.

I have to learn how to keep myself alive before I get an animal. Yeah. Although that would give me some sense of like responsibility. No? No cats. Do cats have... They take care of themselves. Well, you still have to feed them.

But they'll go to the bathroom themselves. He just to clean out the litter box once every few days. Oh, but that would smell, yo. Yeah. You would get annoyed. You'd get annoyed. You'd get annoyed. You'd throw it again. I'd throw the can out of the window.

If you had to move to another borough, what would it be? Brooklyn. Probably. I don't even know the other borough. It's like Bronx. I just went out last night to the Paramount in Brooklyn. Incredible venue, by the way. Have you been?

No. It's really cool. Last minute concert. It's really fun. What concert was that again? Rainbow kitten surprise. They're like an alternative brand. It's it's it's cool stuff. Who's your favorite artist right now? Um, gonna gonna? I like gunna, but I do like kind of like you know yeats. I love I love Playwright Cardi future. I'm on that kind of wave. I like that wave. I'm not really on but I also like love me when I recently added. I love Charlie X the X we talked about that. Yes. You got to get it on

here sometimes I'll listen to young blood okay that's like kind of like rock yeah yeah yeah really random but like I like his like slower songs if you had to pick one sexy red oh that's a good one if you had to pick one city other than New York City where you would see yourself living I think I could do Miami I think I was gonna say I think I could do LA if I really had to ever been if I was like in a more wholesome era would do LA I would do LA I But that is nowhere near me. I don't think I would do Chicago. I don't think I would do Boston.

The Miami guys. How are they? A lot of guys that live in Miami, especially the ones that I like, the rich ones, they domicile there because of taxes. Yeah. Because you don't get taxed on...

No income tax. No income tax, yeah. So a lot of like the richest people, domicile in Florida. Yeah. So like... Where are all those islands, billionaires?

islands? Yeah, because then you go to the Bahamas and their friend owns islands in the Bahamas and then you go for a little day trip on a lot. Like I've done all that. See, you've lived an exciting life. But they're all Peter Penn. Can you give me your craziest story of like what you've seen wealth-wise from a guy, like a yacht, private jet?

Like what's the craziest thing a guy has done for you? Yes, I've done the whole PJ thing. We've done the yacht thing. I've told the story before. There was a guy I was seeing a couple years ago that. had a place here and he had a place in Florida, in Miami. And he was, like, not quite divorced, but he was divorced or going through a divorce or something like that.

And he rented on Nantucket. That's where I met him. And he was, like, on a date, we're out. And I was hostessing. Okay. And he took this girl on a date and saw me at the hoses stand and then, like, went to the bathroom from his date and came up to the hoses stand and was like, I need to get your number.

And I was like, I just sat you in your date. This is like the duchiest thing I've ever seen. scene and I somehow gave him my number. Kind of sounds like how my parents met. Really? That's crazy. That is kind of crazy. And we'd go out and he talked about money a lot, which is a big ick for me. Yeah, massive.

I was going to ask you what's your biggest ick. That's a big egg. Probably that. Yeah. Or dressing up like JFK Jr. Or dressing up like JFK Jr. But like he would just, we'd be out like, say we're out like a little dive barry spot in Antukkah just getting like two margaritas before we're getting dinner.

Yep. He'd be like, how much should I tip? Like a thau? Oh. A thau. And it would be like a $26 tab, and then you just like tip a grand just to like prove a point. And I just always like, I mean, 24 year old me was like, and he was like in his mid to late 30s. I was just like, this is so cool and so odd.

But in hindsight. Not it. Not it. And then he gave me chlamydia. No way. And a child. And I thought like my period wasn't coming because. because of the antibiotics I was taking for the chlamydia.

Yeah. Turns out it was a child. Did that affect you at all? Mentally, yeah. I got an IUD so quickly. I just didn't think I was fertile, honestly. Turns out it was. Okay, so now we're gonna do some dating and relationship style questions.

Let's do it. And I always loved getting the male's perspective on things, especially yours. Let's start. What would you ask to say about you? A good caring guy. Like nothing about it. Nothing bad. I believe that actually.

I've, I, I, I've never, yeah, no, I can't say. Yeah. I mean, I'm in, I'm not, and I'm all like, ah, I mean, of course I, when I was in the city and I just moved to the city, I had one night stands and no one's perfect. No one's perfect. I was for the streets for a few months and had my fun. I've been for the streets for years, yo, like years. I've been called out because of it, I've been called out because of that, but we're all young, like once, it happens. It happens.

Like, let me live. Let them live. Do you think dating is actually harder in New York City than other places or is that just a myth? 100%. Yeah? 100%. Because you're always meeting new people. I think there's hotter girls here, though.

They're so... The thing is... Or maybe I'm just gay. No, no, no, no, no. The reason why they're so attractive in New York City is because they're all driven and they're all, like, very in style. They're all very in the scene. I feel like outside, like in the...

like back home, not back home, but like outside the city, they're not as like. So that's what gets you going is driven woman. Yeah. It's not like nice tits or a nice ass. No, I think it's drive. Okay. Somebody who's driven and like is like a boss ass bitch. That's what's awesome.

So you'd rather like a six that's super driven than a 10 that has like a little less drive? By far. Wow. By far. That could be a hard. Like I like that. Why does it feel like men have completely retired? from approaching women in person.

Do you guys go up to girls at bars or do you like DM them after? I feel like it's a mix, no? It shouldn't be. I feel like it's a mix. When I was doing that, I had no problem going up to somebody. Really?

Zero problem. What's the worst that can happen? They say no and then... You're like throw a drink in your face. You're flattering the person. Like, oh my God. I would never be like, oh, wait, what do you want to drink?

I'd be like, I would say something like, I'd be like, love your shoes or like... Or hey, you're like... look so driven right now. Yeah, you are a boss. Yeah, you look driven from over there. That would work. That would work. Yeah, that probably would work. You should go up to a guy like, you look very driven. Do you like, I don't think I would go up to, actually, I do go up to guys sometimes. Do you? Yeah. I'm a very flirty person. You are. But sometimes it's very quiet. It just really depends on the mood I'm in. Yeah. But I do think a guy should be approaching

woman. 100%. A guy definitely appreciates it. Like, it's like, whoa. when a girl comes up to you. Yeah. You should have no problem. I feel like in the group that you know, my friends, they do a good job with going up to girls. Sure they do. What do you think about the look-smaxing trend on TikTok?

What's that? You know what looks-maxing is? No. You know that guy, clap-clare? I've talked about him way too much on the show. Oh, my God, yes. And he's like, I'm bone-smashing and looks-smatching. Is he really? Is he older than he says he is?

I think he lies about his age. He's lying. Brie thinks that, yeah. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. What's the deal with him right now? He just talks about looks maxing. And so now I just say, he says everything.

He's like, island maxing or like, you know, you could be hanging out with a bunch of influencers, influencer maxing. Yeah. If everything you do is rather than looks, you are the most insecure person. Yeah. You shouldn't care so much. He wanted to get a double jaw. Yeah.

Like, no, he's extremely insecure. And honestly, like I feel bad. for him. Yeah. That's how I feel. But he's a great looking dude and you should not do any surgery. Yeah, that's, I feel like he's doing it all for a bit, but like that just how do you feel about guys getting plastic surgery? I mean, if that makes them happy. No, this is a real thing these days. A lot of new friends are getting some surgeries. I'm like dude. Your friends? Not not anyone you know. Oh, but like if you're doing like heightening surgery like that's just like insecurity final boss to me. Oh my god, you see how crazy that is? Yeah. Yeah. And then there's like walking around like

They're on stilts. It's just a really cring. Penis enlargement surgery. Just get like an extension. Is that a thing? No, literally, like, just like a little penis crutch. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure.

I'm sure that's a thing. I feel like I've seen that like on porn websites where it's like your dick's ball. Here's like a penis attachment. Of course. Yeah, that's right. They have a bunch of stuff like that in the gas stations as well. Really? Help you out.

Yeah. A honey pack. Oh, I want one. Honey packs? What if I took a honey pack? For the guy, it's just like, it's just like an energy drink. It's like Viagra, but it's just like it hits all, so it hits all. What if I took a honey pack?

What would happen? I don't know. You should try it out. What if I took a Viagra, what would happen to me? Actually, I think you've done that before. What's the, um, I had her friend who had these like sex chocolates. Oh, I have those. She said they're insane.

Yeah. And there's also like this like, like, loose. this like lube that has THC in it. Oh. That like makes you like everything like high. Oh. So you're just like tingling and stuff. Oh.

But like I don't, I've never tried it. No. I don't like high sex. Okay. I agree with you. Yeah. I just like I get caught in mouth and I get kind of like, oh my God, like what position do next?

Like what I was just like wait. I forgot how to do this. Like, I forget how to do this. Like, I don't know. Which leg? Which leg? I forget what I'm doing here. Oh, Hallie.

Okay, what are your thoughts on situationships? They're definitely, I think honestly, situationships become the best relationships. That's a take. Because you guys have a bond. Obviously something is missing. I think you mean the best friendships or become the best relationship. No, I'm going to stick to situations on this because one person obviously is

not ready to settle down. So you guys take a breather and hopefully that person comes to their senses and then they realized that the bond you guys had was you can't replace that and they become the best relationships. But obviously there's some situationships are crap. Yeah, I feel like we've all had crappy situations situations. They're kind of fun though. They are fun. They were fun. I like a situation. Yeah. We all have. How was it? How was the way your parents, how is the way you view your parents change as you gotten older? Oh, that's a good question. That's interesting, yeah.

That's an interesting question. My mother is my best friend. She's incredible. My dad, from what I have, we don't have the best relationship, but it's been, I mean, growing up, I just, I love both of them. I think as you grow older, especially from me, I've realized that like your parents, It's their first time living too. Yeah.

So. Yeah. That's kind of how I look at it. Yeah. No one's perfect. They're just as human as us. Exactly. I've had a hard time with that. When you're younger, I feel like you just look at your parents as like these people that like are kind of like superheroes in a way and like can't do any wrong.

And you're very close to your parents as well. Very close with. But like I disagree on them with some like basic stuff. Right. Like we're different personality wise. Especially me and my mom were different personality wise in a lot of ways. I don't think we see. out in a lot of things, but we're very close.

But as we've gotten older, like, we're both just like adults at this point where like we just have different opinions. Yeah. What parts of your parents' relationship do you want to emulate? Are your parents together? They are. How they met. It was very natural.

So how they met was crazy story. My mom was on a double date and my dad was on the date. My mom was on a date with who's the other guy from two and a half men, not Charlie Sheen, the other guy? Ashin Cushar? No. The guy, you know, the funny one? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Her friend was on a date with him and she was on the date with some girl. My dad was on the date with a South African model. Good job, Dad. And he was sitting across the bar from them on some bar in West Village. Yeah. And my dad said, excuse me, I have to run to the bathroom. Goes up to my mom with a napkin and a pen that said, please write your number down.

She writes it down. He calls her a week later. Boom. From there was history. I kind of love that. Very romantic. It doesn't happen anymore. No.

It was very well done from Pop. but that that that's what I look up to for for them I like that shot a shot speaking about shooting your shot how do you deal with rejection or what's the right way to deal with rejection I love rejection rejection is so much fun no it seems like a backhand question I love rejection I think to get to where you've been to get to where I'm trying to go you have to deal with a ton of rejection and you have to deal with it well you have to like use as like motivation and I think I've gotten better at that I used to have terrible anxiety. I used to hate rejection.

But recently I've been like, okay, a nose, it's fine to get nose, because you're going to get nose. Yeah, nose, yeah. How do you do with a rejection? I don't get rejected a lot, but like... Are we talking in, like, a business standpoint or, like, show or, like, relationship? I think both, but, like... In relationship, it's terrible. It's awful.

Yeah. I mean, if you try to smash someone and they don't want to smash it. Yeah, it's just like the biggest hit. All right, I'll just go to a lot. bet i guess you could take i'm not worthy business wise i don't know i just kind of look at even and with guys too yeah but like same thing with business i'm just like well near loss have you been rejected business wise i mean there's some some fashion shows i've wanted to attend it that i've got noticed from but like fuck um fine i won't wear your fucking brand yeah there you go yeah

i love proving people wrong though that's why i love you you can do better than that that was breathed out. There we go. Have you ever heard of ethical non-monogamy? No. It's like, I'm trying to put together in other words. Ethical non-monogamy. I think a different words with that is an open relationship. Oh, you know what? Do whatever makes you guys happy. I don't think I could do that. I could never do it. Because you do a threesome? I've done threesomes. I have two. And have you done it with people you were dating? No. Yeah. No.

I couldn't date somebody and have a threesome. There's no way. Yeah, I don't think I could do it either. Unless, like, it was, we really need to spice some things up. Yeah. And it was a girl. Okay. Have you ever done a threesome with two guys and just you?

Like, not to the fullest. Okay. I would, though, if it was in the right situation, I think I would do that. But, like, I've definitely, like, done things with two guys together, but, like, not. Okay. Not to like the fullest extent. I've never gotten like... I didn't know this about you.

I felt Howard or anything like that. Okay. But I like probably would do it once. Yeah. You know anyone. If I know anyone, I'll let you. Get the twins to do it. I've done stuff with twins.

That's what I was thinking. Like not that. No way. Related? But with twins, yeah. And I always was like they're related. That's weird. That's weird.

Like would you ever have a three, like with your like, My sister, no. I've talked about this before. Like, I don't think I would... There's no way. There's no way. That's weird that the twins would do that. But it was fun, though, and they were hot.

Okay. Do you have your ex is blocked on everything? Not blocked, no. You don't believe in blocking? Unfollowed. Yeah. I think you should mute instead of unfollowing. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, it's been a while. What's you're feeling about two phones? I have two phones. You do? They don't have different numbers, though. If the guy you were... I also have different apps on different phones. Your future husband, boyfriend,

whatever if he has two phones are you checking his work phone all the time or no if you feel the need to check your partner's phone then they're probably cheating on you or there's something seriously wrong in your relationship um do you believe in manifesting astrology or any of that woo-woo shit 100% manifest really not manifesting vision boards manifesting works because if it's all about how you approach something if you approach something like i'm going to do this and you hold yourself to that standard you're going to do it okay if you're you you come in with a negative attitude it's not gonna work i agree that's all it's not wooey universe it's just like believing yourself do you believe in like libras have no no that's

all right that they i'm a leo sorry every time when i used to i'm a leo oh my god so you're the little outgoing person in the world that makes sense that you're a leo no it's like attention no you're not a leo but you're in september yeah you're september 24th yeah libra's are bad 24th. The most. September 24th? All those things. September 24th.

September 24th is when labor season starts. Okay. Where are you doing for your birthday? I don't know. I have like nine months figured out. I'll throw a party for you. I think I'm like drunk off those beers, young. I know, me too.

All right. Let's wrap up this episode. Should we cheers? Cheers. Thank you for coming on. Thank you for having me. Thank you for having me. Thank you for coming on.

Cheers. Love you. Wow, that was quite the chug. quite the chug. Okay, as always, thank you guys for watching. You can watch on YouTube, I highly suggest you watch on YouTube because we are drinking on here and giggling and just we look good. So I feel like watching on YouTube is the best option.

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