Extra Dirty with Hallie Batchelder - Exclusive: Exposing Texts, Marriage Plans, & Southern Hospitality Drama *with Bradley Carter*

Episode Date: July 16, 2026

This week, Hallie is joined by star of Southern Hospitality and Bravo celeb Bradley Carter! :man-cartwheeling: Hallie and Bradley talk about how more people need to operate with more whimsy, TMZ getting called on her date, and Bradley's relationship. Bradley talks about the culture of Charleston, the bachelorette party takeover of the city & how he got cast on Bravo's Southern Hospitality. Bradley opens up about the racism on his season, the lack of accountability he received and how he does not see a path forward with her. Then Hallie and Bradley wrap up with rapid questions: fashion hot takes, bad customer behavior, misconceptions about VIP servers, and more! Enjoy!! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

I said no to Love Island. I was about to say, I'm surprised they didn't come knocking. They asked me a couple years ago, I might be told, do it now. Actually, maybe not. I would do it, but like, I fear the heart rate challenge. Like, what if their heart stops? Let's get Extra Dirty. Okay, guys, welcome back to Extra Dirty.

We have Southern Hospitalities, Bradley Carter here. How are we? I'm great. Thank you for having me. Have you ever had anyone from reality TV? Bravo World, at least? I don't think I've had anyone from Bravo. One from Bravo World, which is weird because I know a lot of Bravo people. I was gonna say you're like in the same circles.

I'm like in the mix, kind of. I feel like I've had perfect match. I've had Jimmy Sotis on. Okay, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and Olivia Atwood on from Love Island. Yeah. So I had some people on from the Moralityverse. Yeah.

But not Bravo, I think Bravo's like, Bravo is like, yeah, no, you, you, exactly. It's kind of scared me a little bit. Yeah, Bravo is like, I feel like it's its own cult, like its own sopranus. I wanted to say call, but yeah. That doesn't hurt my feelings. the click. It's like the popular. I feel like it's like the popular group in like a high school

or something like Bravo has like their own country almost. No, without a doubt. Especially, I don't know, I'm in, I'm in Charleston obviously. So like my experience through Bravo is through the lens of like Southern Charm, which is a bunch of like old parts. Yeah. So like relative to, I mean, Summerhouse is like king, especially right now, summer house is like top shit. And then obviously the housewives are like the next step up. I don't know. Like when I first met you a couple weeks ago, when we went out together and I got really, really drunk. Same. I was telling you, I was like, Southern Hospitality

is like one of my favorite shows on Bravo. I'm like a big Bravo fan. I like love the Bravo shows. Summer House I used to love, but now it feels like, it gives me anxiety. And I'm like, I can't watch this anymore. I know too many people on the show and just like, it just, it hits too close to home for you at this point.

Yeah. Like when you watch it, are you like, damn, I want nothing to do with that? Yeah. I mean, they asked me to be on it a couple years or a couple times, not like asked me to like they asked me to do the cast and do the interview process and i've kindly passed just because i feel like i would only do reality tv if it was like a really good fit i also

get scared about the shit that comes out of my mouth like the kind of edit would get because i could you never you could be on the wrong side of history i could get crazy at it yeah and you know i mean that's the thing is like out of your control too so you feel like i mean if you like your family where you could have a little editing control yeah you know what i'm saying and then they're also protect you. Like no one's going to throw you under the bus. I recently did a unwell winter games and that was like the first kind of like dipping my toe into the reality space and the only reason I really felt comfortable doing that was because it was under the unwell umbrella. Yeah. I was like they're not gonna fuck me. Yeah, you're not gonna get fucked over by your own network. But still like it's it's kind of

scary like do you watch Love Island? Yes, I'm tapped in. I did not watch last night's episode, but I've seen I saw the boys go crazy in Casa. Yeah. And then I saw the girls go crazy. But that's it's the last thing I'm seeing it's getting more interesting now. But like, the concept of not having my phone and having all of America. Comment on anything. Come on everything you're doing and do the deep dives up in your past. Oh my God. Like you don't know you're getting canceled.

You don't have anything out there, do you? No, no, I don't have anything out there. Okay, good. Never had Twitter, never said anything crazy. Okay, yeah, you're chilling in. Yeah, I'm chilling. Honestly, I scrubbed my Facebook before I got on Bravo because I was like. I did that too.

Some of the things I want to put on Facebook, my middle school, me was going nuts. And it was not good. I'm gonna cancel myself before y'all can cancel me. It was not good. No, my middle school me, like I was going ham on my statuses. Like the craziest shit I posted my status. Do you remember like like for a truth is? Yeah, like for truth is like TBH.

Like for a rate. Some of those TVH. Oh my God. It was not good. I would definitely get canceled. If you're my friend on Facebook, don't do any digging. There's no need for that. Yeah, don't dig.

Don't dig. I mean, have you ever gotten an app hacked? No, thank God. I've been seeing that a lot recently. I've been saying that a lot recently. I feel bad, but it's kind of funny because then you see some like buy, like, oh, go buy, what is it, like crypto? Yeah. It's like, oh, you need to go get some crypto and buy this and message me, like, hit me up. I'm like, that's, that's not really in my ministry. No. I don't subscribe to the whole crypto game. I mean, I fall. A couple years ago, my Snapchat got hacked and I'm honestly like a lot of, I woke up like in the middle of the night. It was a Sunday. I was like hung over his balls and I woke up when I was locked out of my Snapchat and then I was able to get back in and I looked and said like nine videos saved and like a chat with this guy. It was like nine videos saved and I was like oh my God and he goes, why would you save those in the middle of the night? I'm like that wasn't me. Yeah, it was not me. So someone out there has a lot of incriminating stuff on me. Yeah, I was about to say what kind of videos were there? I mean they were like text tapes or videos of myself. Yeah, let's not we're not going to be. We're not going to be. We're not going to be. I'm not going to be. I was going to say what. I was going to say what. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was to put that up there. Don't release those. Don't release those. Whatever middle-aged man in Nebraska has those videos. No, but my hacker like still like hits me out from time to time and it's like, hey, like it's kind of a toxic release.

Need more nudes. And I'm like, I didn't tell me those. It's toxic. Those are mine. Yeah. But anyways, we let's make it. Let's make her drink. Oh yeah.

Let's do it. What are we drinking today? Today we'll be having a little vodka soda for me, vodka Sprite for Hallie. I don't really, what brand of vodka is this? ALB. ALB. A. I'm not familiar, but it sounds good.

We got the Unwells. Unwell. Passion fruit, orange guava. Yeah, I mean, very like, it's a fancy palette. Very, very sophisticated pallid. Cheers. Thank you. Of course.

Oh, that's actually really good. One more cheers. Cheers. Thank you. Of course. Let's have fun. Woo! I love this. Or what are we free gaming?

The World Cup game tomorrow that I'm going to. We're going to start now. You're starting extremely early. Are you going to go out? Are you going to go out tonight? I'm excited. Yeah, I'm down. I don't know what I'm going to do.

Yeah. I don't know what the vibe is yet. Yeah. But I'm down to do anything. Do you have any suggestions? Like, give me your ideal night out. Like if you could. On a Wednesday.

On a Wednesday. Like, what does that look like for you? I mean, honestly, this time in New York, when the weather's really, really nice and it's really hot out, really late. It's also really light out really late. I would try to sit somewhere outside. People watch. It's like the best people watching in the city.

In the world. Like go to a nice wine bar. Oh my God, yeah. I'm a big members club whore. Mm-hmm. So. Are you members? Are you like a plus one?

I'm a member. Okay. I don't know. But I like to plus one sometimes. There's so many down here. There's like a member at Zero Bond and Shamargo. Okay. There's like the Cassid Chip.

When you say that, it's like, that sounds expensive. Yeah, I love it there. Zero bond? Yeah. Jamargo. Shemargo. Zero bond and Shamargo. No, that's good.

Have you gone out in New York? Like a little bit, but not the proper way. Yeah. I would say. Not with me. No, correct. Correct. Like when, okay, so back story, when I met Hallie, this was.

That was a crazy night. Yeah, that was, it was a crazy night when it initially didn't start like that. No, it was fine. We went out for a little bit. I ran into her at a bar. We have mutual friends. And we ended up post-gaming at her place. Our mutual friend is Dylan.

Okay, so even more backstory. Dylan twin sister lives in Charleston. Yeah. And she is good friends with me and my girlfriend. So like small row. So that I reached out of Dylan, hung out with Dylan. Dylan's like, bring this lovely girl, Hallie. Yeah.

Well, I was honestly not familiar with your game. And then I took a deep dive. Let me tell you all. Obviously, y'all been here for a minute. I'm new to this, not true to this. So this was crazy. I did not know this. The lore.

What did you learn? What did you learn? I learned. You like to drink. Yeah. Which is fun. I'm here for it. Not much of a worker outer.

Talking about that. That's fine. I used to be a big cospeter. Okay. What? Yes. You were in that side. Yes.

It's crazy. I'm like an all or nothing type of person. Okay. So like I used to be like really big into the CrossFit because my parents are big crossfiters. Oh, damn. Yeah. See, I wouldn't have expected that. Yeah.

CrossFit is like its own. I got the form too. Damn. Yeah. Okay. Low Kemp strong like stronger than I look but I'm like still. No, you're still stronger than you. Yeah.

You can't see my muscles under. Plus two. But you got them. Yeah. But I also like did a whole. solid core stretch, but like once I stop working out, then I stop working out. Yeah. It's good.

It has been influenced. No. But I learned a lot, all good things. I, the when I look at your like profile and your podcast and everything, I'm like, this girl knows how to have a good time. And I don't think enough people are operating with the appropriate amount of whimsical energy. You have a lot of that. And your friends do.

Specifically the gay men in your life. I love gay men. They like, that's what I'm talking about. I love gay men too. Yeah. So I'm with you. Some of my best friends are gay guys. Yeah.

I think really the hack, I'm not single, but to all my straight guys out there listening to this, if you have a wingman that's a gay guy, it is a cheat code. It is the absolute greenest of flags that you could possibly fucking have. If you have a gay man in your corner, he can walk up to a group of girls. Hey girls. Yeah. Oh shit. Hey girls.

Like that is the easiest icebreaker. You don't even have to do anything. You literally just stay in there. Like, and you should be. fine, just don't be weird or stinky. And like you're good. I also think that a straight man being really close with a gay man is like such a green flag and a sign of like being just very secure with their masculinity.

But yeah, I just, I love gay men. I talk about it all the time. Most of my friends are gay men. Yeah, no, it's a green flag. I think it's a good thing. Yeah. And because I also like keeping gay guys around, my fashion's gonna get better. Yeah.

They're gonna be blatantly honest with me. If I look like shit, they're gonna be like, you look like shit. Like they're gonna keep it real with me. There's no cons. There's no cons. I have literally no cons. They're not gonna hit them. hit on me. No one's going to confuse us as like we're dating.

Well, like, you might get some allegations, but like, who cares? Who gives a fuck? It's not that deep. Yeah. So, honestly, shout out to gay men. Shout out. Thank y'all for all your good. We love you and cheers to you.

Cheers to you. Cheers to you guys. Thank you for everything you've done for us. Mm-hmm. Are you still with our friend? Like, are you still hanging out? Oh. Do you know what I'm talking about?

Okay. So, we can name drop. I was going to name drop. So he's like, he's like, he name drop me. Okay. On the stage, I was so confused. I saw that on page 6 and I was like... That's right.

Oh, yeah. I was like, why are we still talking about that? Like, we didn't even have sex. Oh, really? Y'all just hung out. We just hung out. We went out to dinner. And it was funny, I brought him to Chey Margo.

Okay. And when we get there, TMZ's at the front. Of course. And I was like, did you call talking TMZ to Shea Marco? And, like, there was this whole Coachella thing. There was allegations that we were like

really hooking up. up in the lawn, we weren't. We like packed and then like the source to the whole article, he was his own source. Oh. I was like, I'm really confused by all of them. He called the ops, but he is the hops all the same time. I was like, we weren't doing anything crazy in the field.

We were with Graydon. But like we've shared a few kisses and like went on a nice day, but you know, he lives in Utah, yeah. He has a couple kids. Couple kids, yeah. But he's really nice. I'm not, I'm not a big dater. Okay.

I like to keep things as casual as possible. Is there trauma there? There's definitely trauma there. Okay. Why? Are you just, or you don't really, you're just not a dateer? That's not your thing. Like you'd rather just hang out and have a good time and keep it simple. I feel like I have my guards up a lot.

And I feel like when I like someone a lot and I've definitely had situationships where I'm like, I would date you, I would fucking marry you. Yeah. I get head over heels. But then I feel like when I like someone and let my guard down, I feel like the worst version of myself. I feel like super vulnerable. And then I don't like that shit I don't like feeling vulnerable Because it feels like I'm out of control

And I'm like kind of like an OCD Control freak kind of person So liking someone I you know connect that to like feeling out of control Yeah Because you are giving up control Yeah When you're dating someone

Yeah you're putting your trust into them And that shit's scary It is scary It's terrifying But I'm getting to the age where like I also don't want to settle Like I see a lot of people Just like being like oh I'm 28, 29

Like I should be in a serious relationship I really believe in waiting for the right person, but I also think I could be a bit more proactive about finding that right person. I feel like I'll just run into them in the street and we'll just hit it off. No, like airplane theory. You're like walking through the airport.

Like a movie. Yeah. But I think I actually have to like try. I have to actually put in effort to find someone. I don't think the girl should put an effort personally. Like my girlfriend. Tell me about your beautiful girl. She is so beautiful, by the way.

She's funny. Yeah. I love. her so much. We've been dating in August. It'll be two years. Nice. This is very exciting. And when we first, like, met, we were working at the same gym. She had just moved to Charleston. And we kind of hit it off. That feels organic. It felt organic. It literally, she literally walked through the door and I was like, yeah, that's the one. Like, I knew. But the thing is, is she didn't give me the time of day. Like, she didn't entertain me at all. Like, did not. No, I love it, too. I love that shit.

I love it. You can tell your kids Wednesday. Yeah, for sure. No, she did not give me, it was probably, I want to say it took about a month and a half for her to even be like, okay, okay, like we can like start taking this a little bit more seriously. Yeah. She didn't sleep with me, did not give me any time of day, curved the absolute shit out of me. But to her defense, huh? I should try that. Yeah, you should just be like. See, my problem is I give everyone the time.

I just give the day well. Yeah, the whole day. The whole day is gone. My week's backed out. I got time. Like, I got time. No, she did not entertain me at all. It was cute.

But to her defense, like, I mean, my resume, like, it didn't look good. He's on reality TV. I know, but I- He's a personal trainer. He's got tattoos. I have, I'm friends with a lot of girls. It's like, there's a lot of red- And Charleston is like known for having, like, the hottest girls ever.

Isn't like the ratio, like, 70% hot-ass bitches and like 30% guys? Out of a group of 10, at least, I'd say six of them are going to to be seven and a half and above, which is crazy numbers for the like per capita. You know what I'm saying? Seven and a half in rating. Okay. So out of 10 girls, seven and a half will be girls. What?

Well, they're all girls. So out of 10 girls, I see what you're saying. Seven. Sorry. Seven of them will be seven and a half higher in rating. Okay. You want me now? Yes.

I'm with you now. Seven out of the 10. I said in a group of 10. Yes, and a group of intent. Yeah. But the ratio itself, it's like six to one girl to guy. So like if you're halfway decent guy and you're like not weird, don't get the creepy allegations. Like, you're good.

The worst allegation of guy you could get is creepy. Like you can be weird. Smelly's word too. Smelly. Smelly and creepy is crazy. Smelly and creepy is crazy. No one's going to want to come near you guy. You're smelling and creepy.

That's the new insult you need to. to go with. I'm just going to start calling people creepy and smelling. Everyone. Maybe that's how you're going to land the guy that you want. I mean, should I go down to Charleston? I mean, I feel like there's some handsome men down there, but I feel like there's a lot of like that Peter Pan syndrome.

But like, so does New York? It's fair. It's a lot of nepo babies in Charleston. I mean, there's a lot of guys in Charleston that are just killing. Coasting. You have a lot of friends to hang out with you. You don't do anything during the day. You're much of a, if you're like a chiller.

Yeah, I like to chill. Yeah. If you're a big chiller, it's a good place. to be. You need to come. I'll give you the Yeah, I'm going to come. I'm going to see you guys. And what's like the best time to come in Charleston? I would say probably you need to come in the fall. All right. Did you go to college?

Yes. Okay. Excuse me. I did. College educated. I'm college. But I was a classics major. Okay. Which is like, what does that mean? What does that mean? Yeah. Well, like, I was like a classics in art history.

Classics major art history minor. Okay. My thesis was on Hellenistic, the emotional manipulation of Hellenistic art and architecture and how moving through a space evokes certain emotions. Okay. You got something up there. Like, what, how am I going to be a museum director? Like, I'm going to work in a museum, like, and give tours?

Like, I don't understand, like, what I could have used. That's not the aesthetic I got when I looked at your TikTok and Instagram as a museum director. Yeah. That's not the vibe. I was wondering if you went to like an SEC school. You know what I mean? I went to union college. Okay.

Which I don't know if that is one. I should know that. Where is it? It's in upstate New York. That's not one. We're learning new things. You're learning new things. That's cool.

The southern culture is not, you're not familiar with. Yeah, not really. So I'm going to put you on game. Okay. So you need to come to Charleston in October, right? Because it's still hot as shit, right? Probably, it's like fall up here, but it can get a little chilly.

In Charleston, you're still getting 85 degree days. There's no humidity. Still can get on the boat. So can get on the beach. Do the whole thing. But we have that extra layer because it's the South. College football is king. So like all, like a Saturday day drinking in Charleston when college football is on?

Are you a sports girl? Go sports or no? I mean, I'm from New England. So my big Patriots family. So yeah. Okay. So you understand the game, though. Yeah.

Like you can go watch some football and get day drunk with. My dad played and my brother played. Damn. Not for the Patriots. Not for the Patriots. I was in the same. Yeah. But at Union College.

Yeah. I mean, I really want to visit. I heard the going out scene there is great. I heard it's a big bachelorette. Big bachelorette deistration. But not as bad as like a natural. Like you're not going to be walking through the streets. And there's like 20 of them, like 20 bright tribes that are like obnoxious.

Yeah, I just went to Nashville. And I was like, oh, my fucking. I felt like I was in a snow globe. Too fucking much. It's too much. It's too much. Yeah. No.

It's a lot. And then like their energy is so chaotic too. Yeah. And when they come into town, they're just like, woo, like a woo girl. It's kind of like a little chuky in my opinion. The outfits, the whole thing.

Yeah, I was just on a bachelorette and like if she wouldn't be caught dead wearing like bride to be sashy. Right, yes. That's where it gets chuggy. It's one thing to like, if you want to do some color coordination, I love like maybe like some neutral colors or something like chic.

But like chic or an elevated. Yes, elevated. But the, I had one time at Republic. We had this one group, it was not chic and it was not chic. and it was not elevated, but it was hilarious. They all dressed as Shrek characters. I thought it was pretty funny. That is amazing.

What's the craziest thing that you've ever? So wait, let's talk about Southern Hospitality a little bit. What was your position there? Okay. You don't work there now. No, I'm not really there as much as I used to be. So now I kind of do host events. Like on the 4th of July, I'm hosting a hot dog eating competition.

So that's exciting. Is that what TJ is hot dogs? I wish. No, they're just like shitty boiled hot dogs. Okay. There's no flare to them. TJ's hot dogs are fire though. I heard they're really good.

They're actually like gas. They're really, really, really good. Yeah. But I used to bar back. I used to sell tables. I was a VIP server. Like I've done pretty much every job. I've bartended.

I've done every job in that club because I was working there years before the show. Yeah. So how did that casting process happen? Like was it just kind of like a spinoff of Southern Charm? And they were like, this could be a really good idea for like kind of like a, what did they called an Ocuxeries? Yeah. Ockey series.

Accus series. You know ball. Yeah. It was for us, it was cool because we were already, a lot of us were already working there. And Charleston is so small. So like the people that are kind of like in the scene, you know pretty much everyone. You know what I mean? So a lot of us were already working there.

They interviewed us. They were like, hey, listen. We're thinking about hosting this spinoff. We shot the pilot at Republic. All of us worked there. We did the whole thing. Didn't hear anything for like eight months. It was just like radio silent.

And then they called us back and they're like, hey, we're going to do the show. Yeah. So like I, I like, I like, I like, that we had the chance to do it all together and like come in all at the same time. Whereas like I see girls or people guys too on come on to other shows. And then like they've been there for like,

other people have been there for like eight, nine years and it's kind of like it's kind of hard to find your voice. Yeah, it's kind of like. You're walking into like a limestone. Being a bombshell on Love Island. Yeah, exactly. You're walking in. They're like, they already got these established relationships

and you gotta try and like find your way. Whereas like we all started together. So it's kind of nice that we're like, I know these people. Is there one person? person that you thought that like thought they were like the main character of the show. So that's a messy question. No, that is a messy question.

Well, no, I would say yeah. I definitely think Joe and Maddie feel like, you know, they're kind of the it couple of the show. Yeah. Which is fine. Yeah. You know, everyone's entitled to their incorrect opinion. But like, I think that they think that and that's cool.

But honestly, though, it's cool. Like who is going to get on reality TV that doesn't have a little bit of their own ego? Like- I feel like if you're going to be camera forward like that, like, I mean. even like this like you have to have some sort of like ego yeah you have to yeah like that's what makes good tv is when ego yes you got to have an ego you got to think so true when ego's clash yeah it makes good tv have you like the whole experience i think the experience it's not what i thought it was going to be i wasn't really into reality tv before that i was like yeah i just

simple boy sports life regular job like that wasn't really in my cards like i didn't watch grow up watching reality tv but now that i'm in it it, I kind of love it. It's like toxic. Like, it's like an unhealthy relationship, like I can't get enough of it. You know what I mean? Like, I enjoy doing it.

It's fun. Like, you get this weird. It's inexplainable, and you can definitely relate to this. It's like almost like a high. It gets fun. Yeah. You can kind of like,

it's a space where you can really articulate yourself and your mind. I mean, I feel like I watched the season and the way you articulated yourself was like honestly really powerful and moving because I feel like, it was almost like therapeutic in a way.

Without it out. It's like forced therapy. Yeah. Because in real life when we have our friends that don't do shit in the public eye and we like have beef, it could drag out like two or three moms. Like we might not talk here or there. I might not talk about it. But when you're on like behind a camera, it's like actually we're going to talk about this like right now. Yeah.

Like we're going to get this over with right now. So like when people are tweaking the fuck out, it's like why are they acting like that? I'm like because they had no other choice to like, but to like crash out and talk about it right now. Yeah. But that doesn't excuse people's bad behavior. No, yeah. I feel like there was like a lot of bad behavior this season. Bad behavior.

Very bad behavior. Unexpected, you know? Also like. I think it's also like the summer house drama kind of like overshadowed the blatant, you know, microgressions that was happening in your show. And I was just kind of like, why is no one talking about this? It was actually. I agree.

with you. I think it was, for me, I was seeing what was going on in Summer House. Obviously, it was so fucking crazy that everyone was like, oh my God, Summer House, Summer House. But I'm like, are we really not talking about like what's going on here? Yeah, it kind of was like, it like overshadowed it. But I feel like the conversation that came out of like what the drama was on your show felt like more of an important conversation. Yeah, for sure. Than like someone hooking up with someone on another show. Yeah.

Like that should happen so. I'm sorry. I'm not, we're not excusing it, but like, no, no, people we fuck it

all the time. Yeah, people, people cheat on their wives, husbands, they fuck their friends. Like, that shit happens.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, it happens all the time. But like, what was going on, the drama, if you haven't watched

other hospitality, you go stream it, Peacock. It's great show. It's one of my favorites. All right. Great show. If you don't,

like, it's something that needed to be talk about because I think a lot of people could learn something from it. Yeah. Like, even if you didn't understand or maybe like not get it like I have that in the back of my head when things are happening on TV I'm like you have to explain stuff so that the audience can understand

like your emotions yeah how you're feeling and like I want it to be like really clear like how I was feeling what I was going through like you saw it and thought it was blatant like that was one of the first things Hallie actually even said to me she was like I watch your show and the shit that's going on is fucking crazy that bitch is racist and I was like thank you for having my back I appreciate it. Mind you, this is few drinks later. So, like, it was great, and I appreciate the sport. And it was genuine, though.

Like, I knew she was being, like, authentic when she said that. And, like, it came from, like, a place of care. And, like, she was also to the point that she just made, she was, like, mind-blown. And she's like, how is this, like, even a thing? Like, why is she behaving like that? Like, what is, like, why is this, you know, where it is? It was interesting to see her not processing, like, what was, what she was doing wrong. Right.

I think it took her a while for her to even get to the point where she could, like, apologize but I feel like it was almost forced upon her by the audience because no one sided with her for sure did you watch the reunion or are you like I watched a yeah so like that's how that's how I received it I'm like stood ten toes down you're like I'm not good with you yeah we're not good at all because the thing is like if someone's friends with me they would never we would never even be here yeah like we would not be at this point yeah it'd be one thing like if you fucked up you fucked up and like you acknowledge it and you're like my bad like I shouldn't

said that like if for me if I was her and I was watching like the first after the first two to three episodes I would have been in my phone like Yo, I'm so sorry that was like wild to me like I should not have behaved like that even if you didn't recognize it in the moment like looking back on it I would have been like that was shit was unacceptable I'm so sorry I feel like I mean have you heard from her since she actually texted me on Monday Do we read it is that where you looked at me like that? Well like this is the thing when cameras are involved. I feel like a lot of people are performing when cameras are like come up and they're like, oh, like, is this for camera or is this because you actually fucking mean what you say? So it would mean more, I think, if she texted you

when it wasn't being recorded. So the audience can like feel like, oh, look, she's like apologizing now. Like that means less than like you pulling someone aside in private and being like that was some fucked up shit. Yeah. You know. Absolutely. Yeah. That's what that's what I would have wanted because at the end of the day, the reason that it did hurt my feeling so bad, like if there's some random person, it's like, whatever. Like, I'm not tripping. But the fact that it's a close friend, what was a close friend of mine. Yeah. And like, it got to this point, that's what really, like, cut deep. Because it's like, to your point of, like, trusting people, like, I put up walls, even in, like, with my friendships. And those can hurt even more. That's what I'm saying. It's

like, I put up walls to protect my friendships. And I vet my friends, like, I'm friends with the same people that have friends with since like middle school, high school, college. Like, I, I don't lose friends. I think in letting her into my life and, you know, being vulnerable and her being vulnerable, with me and I'm like damn like through all our relationships even the ups and the downs like you still like went with this narrative and like kept making it worse and worse and worse without taking any accountability yeah I mean she dug a hole that I was like damn like we're really just double downing on it double downing should we read the text is it you want to read it you go for it says hey rad I really wanted to reach out sooner but I wanted to give you the time and space after the

reunion in the show wrapped to text you I'm backed in the states now I was out of the country for a few weeks and I would really like to have a conversation over coffee if you're willing. I understand if you don't want to respond to this text, but I'm here. Yeah. I know. That, I mean... I do appreciate it. Listen, first off, I appreciate it.

I can't say that I don't appreciate it because that's what I wanted, but I wanted that, like, months ago. You know, like, I wanted that, like, even before the reunion, I wanted that conversation to be had, like, when it was, when you were watching it again for the first time. Yeah. You know? I appreciate the text and I'm probably just not going to respond. But like I wish that because now it just feels performative to your point. Because now it just feels like you're checking a box and it's not like you're being genuine. And truthfully like I don't think that like I'm not starving for friends.

So like I don't really like that when you burn me that bad publicly. Yeah. Like I'm not gonna. I mean do you think that she sent you that text so later down the road when you guys are filming, she can be like I texted you off camera to go and chat. It's possible. Yeah, that's probably like that could be one of the reasons. I think there's multiple layers.

I think that was one of the reasons. Maybe she did learn. I think, yeah. She did grow from it. Maybe she did learn. But like, for me, I'm like, well, that's what I'm standing 10 toes down. Like the lesson is learned, but like that doesn't mean that like we're good. Like I'm not holding any like energy towards you or negative energy towards you.

But like I got to leave it where it is. Like I can never. Indifference is worse. Yeah. Like I can't. Like it's physically like would make me sick to try and like open up to be a friend to you again. Yeah. You know?

And that's sad. And that's really like disheartening. But the damage is done. And like, fool me once, shame on you. But like, pull me twice. Like, come on. Like you can't. You can't keep doing that to me over again.

Yeah. I mean, are you guys going to be filming together next season? I don't know. Well, let's hope we get a next season. Do you guys never know? We don't. Well, typically we've heard about it. We haven't heard anything yet.

So we'll see. But I think that we will. 100%. Yeah, I think that the show like really took off this year. A lot of people started watching. And I don't know. I don't know if she'll be back. I don't know.

Do you think you're going to get coffee with her? Or you need more time. I definitely need more time. Was there anyone that like sided with her and saw her? Oh yeah. Hell yeah. That like was like sending you crazy dance and shit. Insane.

Like like tell me like one of the crazier ones. One of the crazier ones. Yeah. It's actually like disgusting. I bet it's fucked up. Yeah, it is fucked up. It's disgusting. Like, I mean, some people were like, you are angry and scary and, like, you did come after that girl.

You attacked her nonstop. Like, you need to go kill yourself. And, like, you know. Yeah. You get, I'm sure you probably get that. Oh, God. I was going to say, I'm sure you probably get that too. Any person in that, that's like the immediate go-to.

I'm like, come on, guys. Yeah. That's like the immediate, like, go kill yourself. Like, oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. I mean, that's that. And, like, you know, all the racist shit, the typical racist shit,

that you would see from people. And I mean, so, like, the name Southern is in our show. So, like, we do get a big Southern audience. A lot of people from Southern Charm. We get, like, a mix. I would say, like, a mix of Southern Charm audience, probably on the younger side of things. And then, like, Summer House audience.

Because our show's young. So, like, all of us are in our 20s besides, like, one or two of us. Yeah. I mean, Southern Charm, there are, like, 50, right? Some of them are closing in on 50, petering. Which is, like, isn't that kind of crazy? Do they still, do they come to, like, the place you guys work? No, not really.

But they don't really like, they don't really come to out in. Like they'll pop in from time to time. They go to other spots or parties. Really? Because I feel like some of them would come in and hit on some of your cast. Well, that's happened before. So I don't know if it's. Some intermingling.

There's been some intermingling, but there hasn't. Like, I think a lot of people, especially since there's two shows in such a small town, they're like, they don't like to hit where they eat at the same time. You know? Yeah. So, like, it's fun to intermingle. and we are like friends with a lot of them but as far as the hookups go is it's not not what it used to be like before they were cameras there it was getting real weird really yeah fuck yeah it's a lot it's a lot

different because then we were we weren't other people on tv we were just people in tralston how long have you worked there a republic or before like you before i like kind of faded into black um five years five years yeah five years i started in 2021 and then kind of over the past over 2025 like i slowly like stop working You run a fitness. Wait, what's it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Tell me about it. You want me to tell you about it.

I got you. Because I need you to train me. Okay, listen, body by Brad, plug it. It's awesome. Body by Brad. Easy to remember. Rolls off the tongue. Body by Brad.

Personal training, online fitness coach, whatever you need, I got it. That's my thing. And soon I'm going to be opening up a gym in Charleston, which is hype. That's insane. That's insane. Congrats. Thank you. I'm super excited. Not a lot of people know about that.

This is like a little pre-release. Exclusive, exclusive. Exclusive. This is an extra dirty exclusive. Extra dirty. Yeah. I kind of like that as far. So I'm opening up a gym soon and I'm going on tour.

So I'm going to come here to New York and host a little workout. The dates are coming. I got a few places in mind where I'm going to host it maybe a rooftop, maybe somewhere indoors, but it's going to be a lot of fun. And it's not like when people are like, oh, you're doing like a workout tour. It's like, yeah, we're working out. But like, we're still doing like a little bit of this. Like we're gonna do like a 30 minute body weight situation and then we're gonna drink. There'll be activations.

It'll be fun. Give bags like giveaways and like DJ like that it's more of a vibe. Yeah. I'm trying to bring people together to like have a little bit of fun like yes we're gonna work out but like a run club but like working out version. For sure it's like a run club without all the sex. Yeah. It's exactly like that. What's your like demo like do more Taylor to like working out like training girls or guys?

Oh for sure. It's mostly girls. Mostly girls. For sure. It's, I would say 80% girls, which is another reason why, like, the allegations from the show, I'm like, this is crazy. Like, I'm surrounded by women all the time. Clearly, like, women feel safe around me.

So, like, for you to say shit like that is, like, ludicrous. I mean, you're extremely respectful and kind, and, like, we hit it off immediately. I, like, I can't see a world in which you can be a scary human being too. Right, yeah, exactly, exactly. So, like, majority of my clients are women, I would say I got a lot of, People getting ready for weddings. You don't have to worry about that. I'm just kidding.

I'm just fucking with you. A lot of people are getting ready for weddings. To attend them, maybe. Yeah, maybe to attend them. Yeah, a great plus one. I'm a great plus one. Fire plus one. Yes.

Yes. You're also the kind of plus one. I feel like they don't have to hold your hand. You know, they could leave you alone. You know how to work a room. You'll be good. Yeah. I mean, do you have someone in mind

you want to set me up with? Actually. Nah, I don't. I'm going to think on it, though. I'm a lot, though. Yeah, no, but that's fine. I think, don't worry about you being a lot. Like, you being a lot, that's who you are.

Like, if they aren't fucking with it, then that's there. I can't dim my life. Yeah. Period. Don't dim your life for anybody. Are you going to get married soon? Engage? Is it in the work?

It's extra dirty exclusive? Extra dirty exclusive. I'm actually working on it. You're working on it? Yeah, we're not there yet, but we will. Like, she's the one. Like in the next three years? Without a doubt.

Yeah, we're getting engaged within the next three years. We'll see when the wedding shakes out. Well, I'll be invited? Yeah, of course. Perfect. You're on the guest list. You get your own invite and if hopefully you have a boo thing by then, they're your plus one. Okay, listen, I could bring a random guy to a wedding.

No, for sure. And we'd have the best time, but like, I don't like to babysit men. I just like don't like entertaining a guy sometimes. It's also exhausting. You know what I mean? Like it takes a lot, it's a lot of energy to like, yeah, come out and like you know do the whole flirting thing and like yeah I'm like get off get off like don't touch me I get the ick really easily yeah oh okay actually what are your

icks like what are your biggest like when they like me when they actually want to be with me I'm like yo like I mean there's a guy good no I'm like do you have anything else to do there's this guy I've been like lately serious or hooking on with, it's like very new. But like, I've been, like, doing my research to find something wrong with this man. Okay. You've been digging, asking around.

Does he have a TikTok? Yeah. Does he, like, want to be an influencer? Those are immediate red flags for sure. I mean, like, I accidentally hook up with a lot of influencers. Well, I accidentally you tripped and fell into the dick? Well, like, sometimes, yeah. Well, sometimes we're at, like, a influencer event.

And, like, I get a little tipsy. But, like, I should not be sleeping with. any guy that has an octobody. Ooh. Yeah. And that's a hill I'm willing to die. What are your icks? Do you've got your ex?

Mm-hmm. Well, I know you have a perfect girl, but like... I would say, okay, I also have a hot... This is like an ick slash a hot take. I hate sharing toothbrush with my partner. Who the fuck does that? Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool, that makes me feel good. Some people do though, like, some people don't care.

Some people don't think it's weird, but like sharing a toothbrush to me... I couldn't think of a word. worst thing that I would want to do. Oh god, I could barely share a fork with someone. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, like even when I'm like, I have a drink with a friend, I'm like water falling it like a child. I can't do the sharing the toothbrush, but like, sometimes.

I mean, sharing a toothbrush is way different than sharing a drink and sharing even a fork. But like that's like your... Yep. That's exactly how I feel. I've seen it happen before. Some people don't care. Some girls do that. Some girls do that for sure.

And that's when you need to go to Costco and you get the big pack. And you're like, just take that one. It's giving like they don't want to ball out in a toothbrush. You don't have an oral be like a mechanical toothbrush? No, literally. That's fucking crazy. That one is one. Being rude to servers are like not tipping.

That's mine. I hate that shit. Like why are you? Why? Like why the fuck are you being an asshole? Yeah. They're literally just trying to do their job. Now, granted, if they're doing a bad job, like I'm not going to be mean to them.

I just won't give them as good of a tip. But like I would not be rude to somebody. Like you're treating them like their service. Like that's like stop. Have you ever worked a food and bed job? I mean my parents always raised us that like you should like they're like I think everyone in at some point in their life should work in the hospitality industry just to know what it's like to be kind of like. Serving others.

And serving others and just like kind of you know treated like the bottom of the total bowl. For sure. I was hostess for like five years on Antucket and people there are just like. entitled Spock so like everyone treats you like they deserve the best you and the best everything but yeah that's my ick too yeah especially if they're trying to like impress you by like being a dick to to it's not doing what you think is doing no it's not it's not eating in the way that's weird yeah don't be mean to people like there's no need for that print of mine's getting married so I'm actually going to to France in a couple weeks but this is our first time international

traveling together but we've traveled together and been like on planes and done the whole thing but like not being able to get through an airport like at your grown age you know what I mean that's an egg too like you're big you can't get through an airport come on you would hate me oh no you're one of those no right so me and grade in so it's sometimes we're just really hung over and like I don't have TSA pre it oh god okay cut it he's walking off no like and as someone that travels all the fucking time for work. It's crazy that I don't have TSA pre or anything like that. Yeah.

And so me and Graydon, like, yesterday, we're at the Barcelona airport and we're like so confused where to go. And then we ended up on a highway between turn. Like, we're not, not the best to travel. Okay. What is it like the directions thing? You know how to get through an airport. I can get through an airport.

Like, I'm not like, but it scares me every time. So I always give myself like three hours before my flight takes off just to make sure. I have flight anxiety. Oh, man. There's nothing worth than being stuck in a security line. That's fair. That's fair. I agree with you.

I'm learning a lot about you right now. Yeah. What else do you want to know? No, that's good. Yeah, so we'll work on the airport thing. I won't put that on your resume when I'm presenting you to other men. Presenting it to other men. No.

That's fine. We can work through that. We can work on. Yeah, exactly. We can work through that. That's not a bad thing. It's like someone, like, would you rather date someone that works out too much? doesn't work out at all.

You know what I mean? That's a good question. But probably, I probably want to be with someone that doesn't, that wants to. Don't fucking lie to me. Do not lie to me. You were deciding which way he wanted to go.

I want them to be fit. Yeah, you want them to be hot, like hot shit tight. I'm a little vain. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah. Yeah, same. But like, I wouldn't date someone if I wasn't attracted to them.

Yeah. It's like, you have to be. But like I do like funny. Yeah. That holds a lot of weight. That can offset this. That's like a scale. Right?

They have to be at least like an eight, but like hilarious. Yeah. So they just have to be perfect. So you have to be a perfect assessment. Now I, here's my thing. I'd rather, it's easier to say someone that doesn't work out like works out too much because I can tell them to chill the fuck out. Yeah.

Then I would if someone that doesn't at all. But like, we both. You met at a gym clearly, so like, it's fine. Is she big into working out as well? She's big into working out as well. It's like her thing. Like body tea, Pilates Princess. Pilates Princess?

Yeah. She loves it. When you come to Charleston, like, well, I'm not going to make you work out, but like, no, we should do. You should literally boot camp my house. I was supposed to say. Yeah. Howley's out of town for a week.

She's in Brad's boot camp down in Charleston. I come back. I'm like, oh. She's fucking shotguning these unwell treats. And she's, She's a beast. I know. My brother was trying to train me and like I was chugging these drinks and he's like you can't

And I was taking the um the pre-workout. Yeah. So I was doing it dry. That's yeah. And he goes, don't do that. It's not good for you. Yeah. Why is that bad?

It's bad. It's too much to your system too fast. But like I'm sure your system is a custom. Some crazy fucking shit. Your system is accustomed to it. So like it's fine. Yeah. But I would definitely would not.

recommend doing that. Why is this bad for your heart? It's just too yeah it's not good for your heart but your heart's been tried and true and tested it's fine I I have to make you feel better I drive scoop shit sometimes too so like I don't do it all the time like you're like it's kind of my thing though yeah like the whole working out shit yeah so I feel like people were kind of thrown off when I did it my brother was like let's do some extra dirty questions okay that I have written here and they're just like fun questions would you rather is and etc etc okay would you rather hang out with someone who can't hold their liquor or someone who takes social media way too seriously oh wow that is a class to you marshal higher question okay i'm not

into guys but a big icomine when dudes can't hold their liquor it's like brother tighten the fuck up get it together like yeah it's like you weigh so much like what are you doing what are you doing like you're a grown ass man like you can't be like sloppy i shouldn't have to carry you home you know what i'm saying like that's ridiculous no that's one of my excellent guys when they can't hold their liquor. Yeah, you can't hold their liquor. So I would say probably drinking too much. The social media thing, like, yeah, it's annoying, but it's not blowing my night.

Like, if you're drunk in a mess and I have to interrupt my fun, now it's everybody's problem. It's a liability. Correct. Yeah. Also, like, social media, like, caring too much about it, maybe they have good work, I think. They're not scared to work. I love that. They're not scared to work.

They're octobying it up. What is one current fashion trend that you think is ridiculous? Please don't bury me. I'm not a fan, which it's not for me to decide. It's not my opinion. This is just my personal opinion. I don't like when the girls do the whole, like, suit jacket thing. Like a suit jacket?

Yeah, like the blazer. Like the big boxy blazers. And this might be because I'm a male in the male gaze. I love, like, a woman's body. Like, I think that's super cool. Like, that's what makes you guys special is because y'all can look never how any, like, I can never look like that. Like, a woman's curves, like, and no matter the size, I think. that shit's cool. And when you have on the big boxy blazer, like, it just doesn't hit for me.

But it's just a fashion trend that like, I'm just like, it's just my personal. Honestly, I like that point of view. Oh, wow. Really? Yeah. Okay, cool. I mean, I do have a bunch pictures and boxy blazers. Like, I don't hit it. You can make it look cool, but I just don't, I'm like, I'm not a fan. It is a moment. Like, I mean, I'm thinking I did a whole photo shoe in a boxy blazer. And no, no, it's, it's honestly so real because sometimes I feel like, I feel like, I tend to like want to hide my body because of insecurities. That's fair. Yeah.

And I like what you said about at any size. Yeah, it doesn't matter any size. Yeah, no. So I honestly like that take on that. What is the weirdest thing a customer has ever said Sash done to you? We get a lot of insane shit, especially since like... Are there any fights? Oh yeah, lots of fights.

Well, not with me, but like customers fighting. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I got it. I got it in me. But I, the customers, one thing that I don't get the part of, since we're we work at a bar, obviously people are drinking. Like, fans will start the night.

Some of them that go there for the full experience, like they'll start. And they'll be like, hi, and they're like super sweet. And then as the drinks start to flow, it gets to be like an hour later. Then they start like the touching. And I'm like, I don't like, I don't like. I don't like that either. Don't touch. I don't know you.

Like, I respect. I'm happy that you're here. And I love that you watch the show. Yes. But like, please don't touch me. Especially when I was single. Like, they would automatically assume because I'm a guy that, like, I don't care. And now you're not.

like very serious. Yeah, I'm a very serious. I'm like, please do not touch me. Heisman. Like, yeah, no. Heisman right to the face. Like, please. Keep your distance.

That's one thing. And then also, like, people are just, you know who's horny? Then the divorcees, they are ready to fucking go. Like, when I was single and I'm working at Republic, they're coming through, like, hungry, ready to pounce. They're like, come back to the B&B. now. Not the B&B. The B&B. Right now. Me and Dorenda are back here. Me, Becky and Kelsey are ready to fuck your shit up. Exactly. You ain't never had nothing like this. I'm like, you're so right. I've never

seen that shit before and I don't care to. But like they're hungry. They're ready to go. Just a follow up question. Are there like a ton of fan? Like how do you guys navigate that being like that location? They know where you're at. I think about Vanderpun rules all the time being sirs like, I'm sure like the line was out the door. Yeah. At one point in time. At one point in time it definitely was.

And still is at Republic. Like people obviously they go like they plan a trip to Charleston and it's such a Bravo heavy city like they're having fan fest this year. It's such a bravo heavy city that a lot of people really like they go to Republic because they want to see us working there. They want to meet us. A chance to run into us or possibly run into someone on Southern Charm. So they go there with like full of excitement and they're just like fired up ready to go.

Are the actual customers people wanting to buy tables or is it just people just wanting to see people? No, it's a mix. So you'll get people that they'll like they'll stand there and just kind of hang out. But then you'll also get the crowd of people that will buy tables or buy drinks. They're like getting there. They're fucking they love it. I mean they know where we are. It's like we kind of feel like for us it's like you're kind of an animal in a petting zoo.

Like they know they pay the price of admission. They pay that $5 cover and they get in and they love it. That's honestly like are you guys protected though? Like how? Yeah, we have we have bouncers there. So like if someone gets like crazy, I'm like, yo, can you please like escort this lady out of here? Yeah.

Escort this man out of here. The husbands are also low key like they lookie fan out too sometimes. It's kind of funny. That's like funny when guys are fans are. Yeah, it is funny because they like, they'll be like. Yeah. Men used to go to war. Yeah, men used to go to war.

And they're fans at Republic. No, for sure. And they'll tap you. They'll be like, you know, you know, my wife loves the show. And I like start talking to the wife about the show. I'm like, oh, yeah, da-da-da-da. And they're like, yeah. And I saw another like jumping into the conversation.

I'm like, I thought you didn't watch. Yeah. You're like Chad and are being weird, bro. Teddy. Your brother's name Chad. Dad. No, like Chad, like literally Chad tuck it. Like it was literally named after him.

Like the whole thing. The whole thing. He's a Chad through and through. Okay, cool. Have you met my brother? Was he there that night? No, he was not. You would love my brother.

I feel like we would vibe. Both of them. Chad, Brad, like, it's the dynamic to it. It kind of fits organically. What is the biggest misconception people have about VIP servers? I would say the biggest misconception, that they're not like,

like some of them are like really smart, like, like, cogit, like, you know what I mean? Sometimes the conception about people that work in nightclubs, especially some of the women that are servers, they're like, you're stupid or like they're dumb or they don't have anything going for them. Like one girl I know that used to work at Republic,

doesn't work there anymore. She worked at a public to put herself through law school. It's like you make crazy bread as a VIP server. Like you can walk out with a in $2,000 and one night. What was the craziest tip you ever got? Crazyest tip that I ever got. Or you ever saw that? I ever saw. No, I saw a $12,000 tip one time. Which is boy. Talk about a good night. Was that a girl server? Yeah, of course. Yeah. And a guy sees me. He's like, thanks, But yeah, I think they're $20. Yeah. Like slips me at 20.

I'm like, thanks, dude. Thanks, bro. I'm about to go get a pack of cigarettes. Thank you so much. Like, I can't really do much with it. Have you ever lied to get out of a date or a social allegation in what was it? Of course. Oh, yeah.

Well, I always just did that. Yeah. Literally you just did that. My go-to used to be the like someone would call me. I would like, yo, call me. And I would just talk to them while they're on the phone. Like I'd have them actually call. Like a real date?

Yeah, to get out of it? Are you kidding? How many times have you done that? I thought... Like a handful. I've never... Do you stay a lot? Yeah.

Like first dates? Yeah. What was your main dating app? I didn't use apps. Charleston Small, I didn't eat, like, there's no point in me using... You just asked a lot of people out on dates. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't really like dates. I'd be like...

Well, some were dates, like at genuine, like, hey, let's go out. And then others would be like, hey, me and my friends are gonna go here for like a drinks or happy hour, like, come eat up. And then like, we would come eat up. kind of I'd like pull her off to the side and like kind of have our own situation. But like I didn't really. I tried to keep it as like low bar as possible. One of my favorite dates that I used to do, ice cream, right?

Because it's cute. It's chill. It's not expensive for my penny pinnangers out there. And like it feels special. And like you could sit in the car and eat some ice cream. Yes. Look. Look.

Look. She's already blushing. If you take a girl to ice cream cheat coat, I'm giving out free game. It's like very simple. And it's like low stakes. Like it's not that serious. Like, let's just. go get some ice cream and hang out yeah it's good it's all but that in your back pocket though like

you can use that no yeah i mean like i might but like no guy wants to take me out to fucking ice cream rally like let's be real they're like let's get fucks out and fuck bye not yet we're we're manifesting that do i need to like soften my feminine energy i don't think is it the way i sit Is it the way I sit? You have man spread. No, I don't think you need to. I think, again, if the guy's not fucking with it, he's not fucking with it. But like, you don't need to change to like, for the male gays.

Who cares? Like, maybe I'm too picky. I support women's rights and wrongs. So, like, you good. Do your thing. I'm wrong a lot. So I found out. I'm just kidding.

What did you see? I feel you're keeping something in your back pocket. No. No, no, no, no. I would have told you. How deep was your dad? It wasn't that deep. I mean, I got in bed and when we agree that I was going on the pot, I was like, okay, like I need to see like, what's the vibe? And it was like maybe a five minutes, girl. Like I got to the, um, what's, uh, you interviewed, um, the actor. I forget his name. Light skin guy, curly hair, gay guy, black jacket is what he was wearing. I forget his name. Super funny. Thank you, Cameron. Thank you, Cameron. Yeah, he's an actor, right? No. Oh, just kidding. Um, he was on the unwell winner games with me. He was really fucking funny. Yeah, he's fucking hilarious. He's, his, his, he's, his, he's, his, he's, his Commentary on like on TikTok is the funny shit I've seen okay

That's why it's on TikTok okay yeah, like he's on TV like TikTok is like we technically it was like YouTube series Okay yeah so that's TV it was intense was it what was the on world games like what was your experience They were like easy games just like beer pong and sledding and like kind of shooting a puck I'm in like just random shit but there was like real drama at night were you involved I was guessing some boys. Okay, so not like some. Isn't everyone? Isn't everyone?

I was like, someone has to do some shit here. Love Island? Hello? I said no to Love Island. I was about to say. I'm surprised they didn't come knocking. They asked me a couple years ago. I might be told to do it now. Actually, maybe not.

I would do it, but like I fear the heart rate challenge. Like, what if their heart stops? It's like down. From you? From like you're dancing? Yeah, what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm gonna say. I'm like, you gotta throw some shit back that you make a gossip.

I would take like one of the pillows from like the fucking couch and be like, Oh my God, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I need to see that. I would love to see you on Love Island. I feel like you would thrive? I mean, like, I'd, yeah. Would you rather be on or would you rather come in as a bombshell? I'd rather be an OG. B OG.

Because I honestly don't like the bombshells. That may be a hot take, but like... The ones that are currently on right now. I kind of like mad at them sometimes. Okay. Why? Like I feel some type of way because they're trying to break their, their goal is to break up a couple.

And then as like, I'm so, one of the reasons I also don't know if I could do the show is like when I like someone, I don't feel like I could explore anyone else. Yeah, you're, when you're in, you're in. Yeah. Like when you're in a relationship and you seem like this, like, you're very loyal, like loyal to the soil. Yes. When you're with someone, you're like, I'm with you.

Like I chose you. I could keep fucking around and doing my thing, but I got out the game for a reason. With that being said, I doing like the Animal Winner Games and I was able to, you know, juggle a few guys. I felt great in that. And so I was like maybe I can't do Love Island. Love Island casting hit me up. Yeah, I was going to say. I'm ready to go.

You're ready to go now. Also, like, they have Love Island UK, my orca. I was like, almost about to pull up to the villa and be like, yo. Yo. Like, who is this girl? Yeah. What's up? Oh, okay.

Follett. Hit subscribe. So good. Oh my God. Okay, wait, more questions. Have you used your reality TV status to get something? Fuck yeah. Are you kidding? Why would you not? I'm like, shit, if I got it, I might as well use it. But nothing crazy. Like a reservation, skip the lines. Like, I'm a big food guy. That's kind of what I... That's the only thing that I really like want. Like, if I want, I want to be able to get in somewhere. I don't want to wait in a line. If there's no reservation, like let's hopefully we can make one. You know what I mean? like pull up an extra chair situation. Like that was the only times that I really used it to my advantage.

And oftentimes, like, I didn't have to like throw it out. That's like my last resort. Yeah. I don't use that. I don't walk up to a door and be like, do you know where I am? I'm like one, I'm not famous enough too. It's like kind of gross as a guy. Like it's kind of icky.

Like that's... And also just like puts the hospitality people on a weird spot. I also feel I feel weird even skipping lines. For restaurants I've worked out and even like, no, I feel awkward passing a bunch of people in a line. Do you feel that way? Yeah. Some people will love it.

Yeah. Some people are like, no. Fuck you. Like you, Lizard. No, I don't, I don't love it. I do feel bad too. I get what you're saying. Because you're walking about these people.

They've been sitting there waiting for like 60 minutes. And then obviously, like, I'm a human. I see them like, what the fuck they got this guy? Yeah, this motherfucker. There's a lot like, who the fuck do you think they are? And it's like, yeah, I'm sorry. But like, I really want to go in. Yeah, but like, I don't want to wait either.

Yeah. And also if those people had that same opportunity, they would do the fucking same shit. They would do the exact same thing. So I fully agree. But even in a place that I know, if it's a short line, I'm just waiting line. Like I'm not going to, like I feel like it's a last resource thing. Like I'll pull it out if I need it, but I don't use it. Yeah, it's kind of like a get out of jail free card.

Get a jail. Yeah, exactly. If you could read the mind of any of your Southern Hospitality co-stars for just one day, who would it be? If I could get, oh my God, if I could get in someone's mind on Southern Hospitality, Grace Lily. I was just going to say Grace Lily. Without a doubt, Grace Lily. How is she doing? She's doing better. Actually, we texted the other week. I got to catch up with her. She comes and works out with me sometimes too. And just like, do little check-ins.

Like, that girl. I feel like you'd be good, like, positive light. Yeah, for sure. That's what I try to bring. Yeah. Like, keep her grounded and like keep her. Because she's, like, when Grace is on her shit, she is like positive reinforcement. Funniest, most charming, outgoing, level of people you'll ever meet. Yeah. And like her mind, you talk about whimsical. I know that she is like.

She's like a fairy. She is truly like a fairy. She's talked to Bob Marley and Jesus. Like I want to know what is going on up there. Yeah. Yeah. I would love that. I feel like it's just like a lot of like saxophones.

Yeah. The saxophones are playing. Yeah. They're getting louder. They're getting louder. She's cute. Yeah. She's great.

Who are you close with on the cast and who are you not close with? Okay. My closest? And who do you hate. Oh. Okay. No. You ain't kidding.

Let's see. I would say my closest friends, Mia, T. I like me a lot. I run into her a couple times. Yes, she's cool people's. Mia, TJ, Molly, Justin. Do you know Justin?

I met Justin because Harry Jousie also was on perfect match. And he's from Boston, right? Yeah, he's from Boston. So I think he came to a Red Sox Unwell event a couple years ago. Really nice. Yeah, he's cool people's. I like Justin. I like Maddie and Joe too.

Like our relationship's a little weird now, of course. Are they close with them, me? They, yes. They are. I don't know how close they are at this current. Do you feel like it's kind of like two teams? Without a doubt, yeah. Definitely like sides.

I want the sides to go away. You want the sides to go away? I want the sides to go away, but yeah, I think my side's better, for sure. Your side is definitely better. Your side is definitely better. Not to pick teams. It's like two people at different lunch, two groups of people at the lunch table. And like the other lunch table just doesn't look as fun.

How do you think the sides could go away? Time and I think, um, some of us, where there's going to be, where there's going to be half of someone to like bridge. I want to try and be the bridge. I'm shocked that you think you want to be the bridge. I feel like there should be a mutual that should be the bridge between the two of you because you're the one that's most hurt. Yeah.

Oh, well, that's fair. Yeah. When it comes to dealing with Emmy, the only relationship that I don't really necessarily like character or fix is her, is Emmys. But everyone else, like, if they... A little late. Was it supposed to be that funny? There's the way it's up.

I don't have anything against like me and Lake are cool. We have no personal beef. But as far as like, obviously I'm best friends with Mia. I'm best friends with TJ and I'm best friends with Molly and like legs is not like I don't even met Molly. You haven't met Molly. I don't think so. But they don't.

Like, no, they're like oil and water. I mean, you watch the reunion. Like the whole lake and Mia thing, it got weird. Mia was really funny. Yeah, she's being funny. She just doesn't take any shit. No, she doesn't. She takes no bullshit.

But that's like... What about... What's his name? Michaels. Michaels, yeah. No, we're like, we're cool. We're good. He's good.

He's good. He's definitely more, like, him and Maddie are like, I fucked in. They're like besties. So our relationship is different. But like, I don't have any of words Michaels or anything like that. Even towards Lake.

But like, again, my best friend, do not fuck with Lake. So that puts me in like a really weird position. Who do you think the bridge should be with to fix like the awkwardness to fix everything? I feel like the bridge has to be with like I don't know. I want to try and make it happen. I don't think if I'm exactly the bridge. I think I'm like maybe this like a step.

But the bridge will probably have to be Joe. Yeah, I feel like he's pretty. Yeah, he's with Maddie. obviously they're dating and like they're they're together and that's the thing but i don't know if like i think joe needs to figure himself out and figure some shit out with him and his relationship and he can be like the first bridge because like everyone that's relationship with her no no no no no like a relationship with us like he hasn't been around the guys in forever you think that's because of her i think she definitely has something to do with it yeah like i like obviously your partner has an

impact and an opinion on who and what you do and who you have hang out with. Yeah. And like Maddie's opinion to me isn't good. Like that's not a secret. So she doesn't like you. No. Well, no. Yeah. You guys have had we've had a story to history. Yeah. I mean there was the BJ in the alley. The BJ and the alley. Damn. I know really. I watched the show. I like, I watched the fucking show. I know that petty cab driver. Yeah. Like all that I mean, the guy Trevor, I mean, but truthfully, you can find a guy like Trevor at any local gas station. Like, it's not. No, he looks like he would work at seven long.

Yeah. That's beside the point. But like, yeah, we have a storied history. So our relationship is a little like, strained to say the least. But I think that it's like, at this point it's got to be water on the bridge. Like, we got to move the fuck on, you know? Yeah. And like, that's what I want for this next season.

I want all of us to move the fuck on. Because like, I feel like we got a great thing going. And like, I want our friendships all of us to be better. Yeah. Because when we're all like together, it's a fucking awesome time. We have a great time. Good. Is there anyone you would be happy to see go?

That's easy. Emmy for 500, please? Yeah. So like you think that what, do you think that if she left the group, things could be more conducive? I think so, yeah. I think because there was so much like, like, especially with this season, there was so much like, it was very polarizing. Like you had one side or the other, you know? Yeah.

And where people stood told me a lot about like where our relationship is and also their character and also their character. Ethics were called into front. For sure. Ethics were definitely called to the front of the class. And I felt like that's one thing that I wanted more out of from especially Joe because me and Joe going into the show, me and Joe were probably the closest to friends. So I wanted our. I feel like he's kind of like. Go ahead. I see the thought.

Just go ahead and pull it now. Go ahead. I think he's kind of a pussy. Yeah. A little bit wishy-washy. Like doesn't know how to like stand in his His truth and his feelings And I think I don't think his truth is his own truth all the time

Yeah I agree I do agree I agree with everything he said yeah but he seems like a nice guy He is a nice guy but that's the problem though he's too nice He seems a little whipped yes for sure and I think he needs to like and I know Julia would agree with this Like she wouldn't date me if she could run through me you know what I mean like if she could run all over me and I For me, which not every guy does this, but like, I wouldn't date her if she couldn't, like, bark back and put me in my place. Yeah. Like, I need someone to hold me accountable.

Like, I would innately, just because I'm a bigger personality, like, I would walk all over my partner if they allowed me to. And, like, not even on purpose. It just, like, that's just what happened. Like, she's fully capable of being like, no, this is fucking stupid. Like, you need to cut the shit, you know? She also being someone that was newer to being in front of the camera for this. season, I really respected the way she had no second thought of standing up for you at all

times. Yeah. It was honestly like really cool to see. Yeah, it was dope. She had like, zero hesitation. Yeah, straight off. I was like, get her. Yeah, you're like, let's go off. But where. Yeah, no, she's zero hesitation. She stepped up to the plate, like, did her thing, talk to her shit. And for like, for the right reasons. Like, I'm glad that I am fortunate enough that I went through this with a partner like her and like because being single it would have been even harder to try and like deal with all of this because i i can't like turn up i can't go yell and scream in me's face like as much as i would have liked to like i but i can't your ability to regulate your emotions saying i am so jealous of because i don't i am so hot-headed when it comes to like confrontation

i get very like i see you see red i see red really quickly you got to like when your target is is locked on, like you're a fighter pilot. The target is locked on. Yeah, like, I don't have the ability to speak calmly and rationally and like be articulate with like what my message I want to like get across. I just am like, like, I'm like,

it comes out like that. It's like most of my arguments, my friends. I literally got argument with like one of my girlfriends on this Bachelorette trip and I was like, I can feel myself bubbling over. So I went to the bathroom on the little yacht that we were on and just like sat in the bathroom for like 25 minutes not taking shit or anything but like just sitting in there just being like I need to calm the fuck down I was in the mirror

like yeah did you I did and then I could have a sound conversation with her but like that's something I'm working on is like oh it's good okay growth I'm trying to like be an adult sometimes yeah not as good that's dope but when I get pissed I'm fucking pissed it's it's hard because then when I'm drinking it like it's it's different but this situation specifically, I'm like, do you have to be calm? Yeah. Because then if I'm not, then I'm going to become everything that she's like making me. No, you're going to prove a point.

I'm going to prove a point. Yeah. And one thing about me, I will never allow you to prove. No, you're stubborn motherfucker. Yeah, I am a stubborn bitch. I am. Do you think drinking on reality is hard? I think it makes the job easier, truthfully.

Like, if I need a couple cocktails to help chill me out, like that's good. Because sometimes, and this is like, you being transparent. sometimes I still get nervous. I get a little nervous. Like it's a lot, especially when you know you're going into like a high pressure situation and you know that like this has been building up to something. And like I've done it now for four years. So I know like this is an all cast event.

I know what's going on. I know the conversations that we're about to have. Give me a martini before I walk in here. So I can like. What's your drink of choice? I even ask you that on this fucking show. That's crazy. That is crazy.

That's fucked up. I was sorry. It's fine. But I would say my drink of choice. It depends on the situation. Okay, like if it's a sunny day, I've been on a big, um, okay, what's not, it's not an April Spritz and it's not, French 75 is in the shit. A Hugo Spritz.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. It's like my soul sister. This is the second time we hang out, mind you. Yeah. No, that is my shit.

I fucking love Hugo Sprits. Yeah. That shit kills me. You know what I call those drinks? What you got? Gateway drinks. Yeah, because it leads to something more. Because it leads to the hard stuff.

Yes. That's when you get into the vodka. Yes. I love a dirty martini. Yeah. But if you're going to sit outside on a beautiful day like this, yeah. Might be raining now.

But like... On a beautiful day. Oh, me do you like this? Dark as fucking air. Hugo Spritz is great. Yeah. People watching. Right, yeah.

Hugo Spritz. Or if it's late night and I need a little pick me up, tequila espresso martini. What were we drinking afters that one night? I always host afters, by the way. Yeah. I was like... By the way, stunning apartment.

Thank you. So beautiful. Loved it. Like, why was Chase there? Like, everyone was there. And like, what's going on? Me, Chase, you, Dylan. I had scariest after that night just because I feel like I, I feel like I came up to you almost like as a crazy fan.

I was like, I love your show. Really? Yeah. No, I didn't receive it that way. I don't know. Well, I feel like we had some deep conversations. No, for sure. That's why I like, we got deep.

And it's also fun. I kind of like getting deep, though. No, it's good, it's good. I like that. I don't mind it too. Like, it doesn't bother me, it all. It makes it better because at that point, I didn't, like, wasn't aware, was not familiar with your game.

I'm like, oh, this girl's so nice. Like, she's cool. It's a apartment. Love it. And then, like, I go home and I'm like, oh, shit. She's like, that girl. I'm like, all right. Fuck yeah.

This is cool. I'm going to let me my day. Yeah. No, it's cool. You know, because you came, like, you're just normal, genuine, cool girl energy. You know? It wasn't like a, like, so, you know, so. some people that have a little bit of clout, they're like, why are you guys?

They can't have a chip on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like, I'm like, bro, you're a human. Like, you're a normal person. I'm like really big. We're all on this floating rock, like, chill. Yeah. I'm also, like, really big on, like, being kind to others and, like, giving out the

energy that you're given and just all that. So, like, I will be so nice and open book if you're, like, kind to me. But if you're going to be a fucking, like, bitch to me and think you're better than me, then I'll, like, level up and cuntmog you. Mm-hmm. Ultimate final boss Yeah Exactly

I had so much fun with you I had so much fun Yeah this is like the best time ever Cheers Thank you Love you too All right guys I'll see you next week

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