Extra Dirty with Hallie Batchelder - Getting the male perspective with my brother Sammy + Graydon!

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

GET THAT IUD LADIES!!! This is the best time of your LIVES!!! It's an EXTRA familial episode of Extra Dirty as our bestie Graydon AND Hallie's younger brother Sammy join the podcast. Hallie and Grayd...on recap their chaotic St. Patrick’s Day bar crawl, spill on Hallie’s current dickmatization, and break down Graydon’s latest crush obsession (including getting tootsied...don't ask). They tackle dating in the social media era, why they refuse to settle, and their controversial take: why you shouldn't get married. THEN Hallie’s younger brother Sammy joins to dish out the male perspective: should women text first? What’s the deal with situationships? And how does he really feel about Hallie’s taste in men? Oh, and their dad once suggested Hallie start an OnlyFans before realizing what that meant. It's chaos, and it's Extra Dirty. Next week? MIAMI, BABY! It's Extra Tootsie! Follow @extradirty on socials to follow along with Hallie and if you love what you hear, leave a review and subscribe to keep the chaos coming. Love you freak!!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I will never fucking settle. I'd rather be broke and alone. I would never settle. I would rather be alone, but preferably not broke. Hi, this is Halle from the streets of New York. Guys, I had every intention of staying in last night. Okay, guys, I am back with a very special, sexy little man. He's not very little, he's very tall, actually. I'm a big boy. Graydon is back on the casting couch. We are here in Boston. This literally is the casting couch. We are here in Boston. This literally is a casting couch.
Starting point is 00:00:47 In the formal living room. I know. We are at my family home right now in Boston. I did a bar crawl yesterday. It was chaotic to say the least, but it was fucking fun. It was fun seeing all the Boston girls. The Boston girls really popped off and showed out. I had girls coming up to me being like, I let my boyfriend like have anal with me
Starting point is 00:01:07 because of you. And I was like literally holding their hands being like, Oh, thank you so much. How's your whole house? How's your gaping hole? Put some Vaseline on that shit. Anyways, me and Grayden haven't seen each other in probably two months. We haven't seen each other since we went to Aruba. Yeah. Or no, Tahoe.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Tahoe, Tahoe. And then, so the last episode I was on, I fell asleep because I was like so hungover and the altitude was like so insane. So today I'm not going to fall asleep. No, like that was insane that you fell asleep and I was honestly a little offended, but we got over it. Yeah, you're fine So we obviously have like lots of ketchup on Because a lot of time has passed and I've been on a fucking tear. I've been on a bento I've been the worst version of myself lately and I'm not proud of it
Starting point is 00:01:56 But like would do it again you would call me like last week and I'm like, oh, what are you doing? I'm like literally snuggled in bed like a little burrito just like waiting for my food to come that I ordered and she's like freaking out like yelling that she wants to go out and she's like nobody will go out with me and I'm like baby it's a Tuesday night like that the freakiest shit happens on Tuesday I had a couple late nights too I had two like eight amers worth of man in my bed it was a pretty interesting week actually but a successful one at most you know what I commend you for that but now I'm like dignitized and I'm like a It was a pretty interesting week actually, but a successful one at most. You know what?
Starting point is 00:02:26 I commend you for that. But now I'm like, dicked with ties and I'm like a little bit concerned because whenever I get dick to dick with ties, I'm like the worst version of myself. In what sense do you want to elaborate? Like when I get good dick, okay, I lose sight of reality and anything that's real. Like I get like low key obsessed for like a minute. And then like. What if you don't get the dick?
Starting point is 00:02:51 Do you ever get obsessed before you get the dick? I feel like the longer I go without getting dick, the less I miss it. Which you'd think it'd be the opposite, but like if I get good dick, I like need it the next day. Yeah. So that's what dikmatized is. It should be more in the dictionary or somewhere. It's probably an
Starting point is 00:03:06 urban dictionary. You get Digmatized. Well, I'm like celibate. So like, I'm really picky. So I obviously, you know, I like haven't fucked in like 24 years. Not actually. But no, I get crushes and then those kind of take over my life.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Update me on what's happened recently. I want to I want to hear the Tootsie Roll story. You wanna hear Tootsie, okay. So, Grayden got Tootsied in Aspen. Yeah. If you don't know what Tootsied is, it's a term one of my friends made up because one time
Starting point is 00:03:36 this guy tried to fuck me in the ass, but I closed it for business. Like nothing usually goes in there. I think I got Tootsied last Wednesday. Yeah, it did. Yeah. But like it didn't go. So Tootsie is when they're just poke, they're poking the back door,
Starting point is 00:03:51 but the back door is closed for business. Were you just clenching super hard? I was dead fishing on my side, just being like, okay, that's not gonna go in. Like it's literally closed. Were you clenching? Like how does that happen? Yeah, to bounce the dick off like a trampoline.
Starting point is 00:04:05 But he didn't get the hint, so he kept poking. That's called tootsie-ing. Okay. When they tootsie you. My friend made that up. Okay, I like that. Because that's happened to me before. Um, so that was a huge waste of my time, I guess. The altitude just did something to me.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I got a drink with this guy in the hotel, and then next thing you know, he flipped me over and tried to put it in my back door. Did you suck him sideways into fruition? Yeah. Did he suck you sideways into fruition? Yeah not as much as me though. Really? Yeah it's sad.
Starting point is 00:04:34 You were the sucker? I feel like you were sucker McGee Loki with those lips. I was in high school. You were? Yeah. It was like my talent trick. I used to give really bad head in high school, which I guess is a good thing. I was so innocent, but I remember my boyfriend being like, you give really bad head.
Starting point is 00:04:50 And I was like, what do you even practice on? Like what do you, yeah. You know, you just have to keep sucking. Until you're a pro. Well, so now I can't even brush my teeth without gagging. So like, I'm not a big sucker anymore. But I used to be a Dyson fucking vacuum in high school, which nobody knows, like it's very secretive.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Football team, the hockey team, lacrosse team, swimmers. Swimmers? Mm-hmm. I think there was a golfer. Yeah, every sport. Swimmers? Mm-hmm. I think there was a golfer. Yeah. Every sport. My nickname in college was the human vacuum. And I don't think it was like drug related.
Starting point is 00:05:32 It could have been drug related, but I think it was sucking related. But like, don't tell my college boyfriend that. But yeah. Not the town bike. The people didn't call you the town bike. No one't call you the town bike. No one called me the fucking town bike. I feel like that's more for guys.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Oh, cause they're the getting rid of. Yeah. Oh. Yeah, you're right. I was the town. Bike rider. Bike rider. Bike rider.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Let's just talk about dating with a social media presence. Like you never know if someone wants to hook up with you or go on a date with you because of like, when did men become cloud chasers? So in my experience, a lot of people want to hang out with me, I found, to get to Halle. Really? Yeah. Like a lot of guys are like straight men? Like they'll have a I'll be having a conversation like both a lot of gays. You never put me on. Because you're mine. I'm not fucking sharing you. And well if they were like hot obviously I would but like I'd be having conversations with guys whether I'm like talking to them or just like people I meet and
Starting point is 00:06:45 Somehow in the conversation you come up and to me That's when I know that their intentions are like they want to hang out with like who I'm hanging out with Because like we're fun like people want to have fucking fun. Whatever exactly do you ever so this is what I've been doing Recently and I feel like it's super telling about someone and I'm sure like girls do this too Just like with any guy like go through their fucking following list and see what people they're following what influencers They're following what creators they're following and I feel like that is a telltale like it's a telltale sign of where their heads at That'll tell the story and I did I ignored that a couple read and the last person I talked to recently ignored that a couple of the last person I talked to recently. Because I knew the follow the the people he was following it was like a lot like sometimes people follow like a catalog of fucking people on social media.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Is that a red flag or is that just like oh they just follow everyone? I think it gets to a point where like okay if you're following everybody in the space, it's telling a story you know. You fall like 3,000 people and like... Yeah or even over like two like two thousands crazy. I looked at like uh guys falling not too long ago and like followed pretty much everyone I know in this space and I was like ah but we chose to ignore. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:01 I just think it's difficult because you just like never know someone's intentions. Intentions are super important. I just think it's difficult because you just never know someone's intentions. Intentions are super important. Like, keep in mind, Hallie and I have only been doing social media for like two years, so I feel like we're both learning too as we go. I don't know, it's weird. I can't imagine the people who have been doing social media for like so long and what their take would be on it, but I feel like people usually have good intentions, but there's
Starting point is 00:08:23 always a bad bunch. Like, I don't want to fuck a fan. I do not want to fuck a fan. I feel like that's weird. But then sometimes you don't know if they're a fan. Well, I just would prefer someone that had very limited social media, someone that wasn't in the social media space, someone that just didn't give a fuck about having a presence online would be ideal in an ideal world. If they like, if I was like, do you know so and so and they're like, I have no idea who that is,
Starting point is 00:08:50 that's a green flag to me. Yeah, you'd be like, take your dick out right now. Yeah, to sum this up, dating in the space is a little like, we're navigating. Like you said, we're new in this, we're new. We're virgin, wait, we're not virgins. We're green. We're green. We are green. So it's a
Starting point is 00:09:06 journey and we will get through it together. You need to get laid though. You're telling me, bitch. I'm too picky. You're too picky. But what am I gonna- You pigeonhole yourself. What's that? You like put yourself, you take, you eliminate a bunch of candidates. Because they're ugly. I watched a guy asked you out last night. That's fucking crazy. Callie if you think I would ever go on a date like that's not my type. No but the guy I sent you is so cute and you said no. I mean I'm not opposed. Did I say no? No you didn't say no. I think I said uh I don't know. I just have a very, I'm picky and I'm not gonna stoop down to not being picky and just to get some dick.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Cause then I'll just feel guilty after and I'll feel dirty. No, I feel like a lot of people do that too. They just feel like they need to settle and we're so against that. I will never fucking settle. I'd rather be broke and alone. I would never settle. I would rather be alone, but preferably not I'd rather well depends on what you think I'd rather be broke in alone
Starting point is 00:10:13 Then have a little for like a little less then having people be like, oh great and settled. Yeah Okay, I don't want to be a settler. This isn't fucking 1920 I know we're in like a settle era, like not not like a settle era, but we're in a settle society. People are settling. People are settling. It's an epidemic. It's a fucking epidemic.
Starting point is 00:10:31 It's a pandemic. It's a pandemic. Everyone's settling. I feel like when they reached the age of 27, 28, 29, they're like, oh fuck, I need a serious boyfriend. I need to live with my boyfriend. And like marriage. And marriage and like babies.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Everyone wants to get married. Why do you want to like rush? Like being like, taking like taking like your makes me like actually hot thinking about oh my god can everybody stop getting fucking married it's so expensive nobody wants to go to 12 weddings in a year thank you yeah i had two friends that had babies last week and i was like like No, dude, I met my friend's baby. So cute, right? But like, I just can't, I don't think I can do it. No, I don't think we're built for that yet. I like when I have a kid when I'm like 35, I'm going to freeze my eggs probably in two years. Someone in my family had a kid when they were like, I think in their 50s, their first kid.
Starting point is 00:11:21 That's like, she lived her life and then she had a kid. I don't know. Don't you want to just like fucking live your life? Like your 20s is your only time you can be fucking selfish, not thinking about anyone else besides your fucking self, figuring out for yourself. Like do you really know who you are? No. Do you want to figure that out with a fucking yapping man by your side? No. No you don't. Live it up. Take that trip to Miami go on vacation Go on Sandra Faye go on the random yacht with a random old man that you don't fucking know that has deep ass pockets Do all that shit while you suck the dick suck the dick. Don't put it in your pussy. Then you'll get pregnant Get an IUD get the strongest one they have on market. Yes. Get health insurance, put it to fucking use.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Responsibly. Responsibly, don't get hit by a fucking car. Car, or a bus. Or a bus. Or a boat, I got hit by four boats. What? What? I've been in four boating accidents.
Starting point is 00:12:18 You know that, Hallie. I swear I tell this bitch stuff and she doesn't listen. You don't know that I've been hit in the face by a boat three times. And then the fourth time my brother ran me over in a boat. If you're telling me anything while we're having a cocktail, just consider it. Well, every time we hang out.
Starting point is 00:12:33 No, consider it. A memory watched. I had Alex when I went to her house in LA. I asked her to show me her closet. Like five times, right? Like 19 times. She started like being like, I can't tell if you're fucking, I can't tell if you're fucking,
Starting point is 00:12:45 I can't tell if you're fucking with me. Well, weren't you actually blacked out? Yeah, I was so blacked out. It was embarrassing. But it builds character. Yeah. Okay. So yeah, now that we're on the topic of like ages and shit, I got, there was two guys that approached me at the bar this weekend in Boston. We were at Loco and they're like giving me the whole schmooze and the rundown and I could just tell by this man's Axe spray, you know, cologne scent. He
Starting point is 00:13:11 smelled like a fucking locker room. No, like a locker room combined with like a car diffuser. So I was like, I already know how old this guy is. He's probably 22 to 25, which is too young for me. The youngest I will go right now is my age, which is 27. So this guy was like, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, okay, how old are you? And he's like, I'm 23. And he goes, how old are you?
Starting point is 00:13:36 Which by the way, you don't ask lady at the club. And I was like, I'm 27. And he looks at me and he's dead serious. He goes, oof, sugar mama. Fuck off. I go, what? This was yesterday? This was two nights ago.
Starting point is 00:13:52 And he goes, oof, sugar mama. I go, yeah, this is not gonna work out. And then our second guy did it to me, the same thing being like, ooh, cougar. What if I was a sugar mama? I could see myself being like a cougar though in like my 30s, late 30s, if I'm still single. I would love to be a sugar mama? I could see myself being like a cougar though in like my 30s late 30s if I'm still single. Yeah, I would love to be a sugar mama like actually support men financially Like just like be super rich and successful on my own. Yeah. Okay. Okay and like
Starting point is 00:14:17 I've just like all these like guys that are a little bit younger than me flocking after me and then me being like All right. I'll like pay for your flight here. Yeah, that would be like a power trip for me. You know, people used to think I was an escort because they used to go to Vegas on like this one guy's PJ. Yeah, like an older man. But I was never fucking him. Like he was like hooking up with like hookers that we'd bring home from the club. But I wasn't hooking up with him. But everyone on social media, because Instagram is now to save space, everyone that I grew up with and went to college with, it was like, oh, Hallie's whoring out to go to Vegas. On the PJ.
Starting point is 00:14:48 On the PJ. Well, everybody assumes you got on a private plane. The only way to get on a private plane is to fuck or suck, but I think if you're just a nice person, you have a good personality. It takes you a long way. I mean, that's a little bit naive. I would say you have to have like a nice rack too.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Yeah, like obviously you can't be beat. No, you can't be beat De No, you can't be beatiana. You have to be cuntiana to get on a PJ. But a nice rack goes a long way. Yeah, just something for the person to look at. And just being fun, going out and just being a good personality, I feel like also goes a long way. They don't want some aggravated, aggy ass bitches
Starting point is 00:15:20 on a PJ with them. They just want people to just go with the flow. Like good personality fun. So if you wanna get on a PJ, them. They just want people to just like go with the flow. Like good personality fun. So if you wanna get on a PJ, just be like a good time. Just be a good time and take your tits out. Yeah, and be like, pick me. Be like, pick me old man to take me on the PJ. I feel like that's the only way to get it on one.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Speaking of private planes, I'm just so looking forward to the summer. I feel like I need a fucking spicy margarita in my hand or a glass of Rose. And I need to be on a daddy's yacht. I wanna get myself on a yacht this summer. All summer. Amongst the daddies that run amok
Starting point is 00:15:57 through the streets of Nantucket and the Hamptons. That's what I want. I'm manifesting that for this summer. Amen. I want you to have your own daddy era. I know, I did for a little. Tell me about it. So this was on the Cape a couple,
Starting point is 00:16:12 this was on the Cape a couple summers ago and I hooked up with this guy who's in his 30s. He wasn't too old, but he was like hot, he had tattoos, whatever. So we have sex on the beach, right? Whatever. Oh my God, never on the beach. That's how you get a UTI. Okay, I don't think guys get UTIs to be honest that's how they die
Starting point is 00:16:27 I don't have a old age what guys die oh my god you're right because my friend's grandpa was like 95 and he had to get his dick circumcised because he kept getting UTIs so sad all right P you're right you T was getting UTIs I remember all right continue paint the picture of this man this man was tattooed he had You're right, he was getting UTIs, I remember. All right, continue. Paint the picture of this man. This man was tattooed, he had golden, beautiful skin, it was like the peak of the summer, we fucked on the beach, not the most comfortable.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Anyway, we get to talking, I like this man, and he lived close to where I live on the Cape, and we got to talking the days after and I come to find out that this man was my childhood babysitter. No. And I was like, honestly, I didn't really care. I thought it was like really hot, but I tell the story a lot and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:17:19 oh, I fucked my babysitter and everyone's like, what do you mean you fucked your babysitter? And I was like, don't worry. Like I was like of age, like I wasn't like seven. Like everyone thinks I was like, anyway do you mean you fucked your babysitter? And I was like, don't worry. Like, I was like, of age. Like, I wasn't like seven. Like, everyone thinks I was like... Anyway, that's sick and twisted. Anyway, so I find out that this man was my childhood babysitter.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Yeah. So hot. And then he was married the whole time. I didn't even know he was married and I had like a crush on him. He was married and he bent you over like a little tootsie roll and poked it in you? No. He didn't fuck me, I fucked him. I forgot you're a top.
Starting point is 00:17:46 No, I put- How tall was he? I think you kinda have to be a top because you're height. I think he was six foot or six one. Okay. So not tiny, but like average. People probably thought you were two flopping seals on the beach. No, literally it probably looked like a whale
Starting point is 00:18:01 like washed on shore and like the fucking whale ate a seal or something and they were bumping on gleeves. But anyway, he was married, it's so sad, it's like a tragic, like. Did you like him? Did you have crush on him? I did, yeah. Do you get a crush with every single person
Starting point is 00:18:16 you sleep with? Because I was talking about this recently with someone. No. Where like, I will only get a crush if one, the dick is good, and two, he has a good sense of humor, and three, if he is smart in any capacity. And I feel like being witty and funny is a symptom of being smart. So if they're funny, I usually just assume they're smart.
Starting point is 00:18:39 But if a man is dumb as fucking rocks, I cannot, that is like my, where I draw the line. He could be the most beautiful, this has happened recently too. I've hooked up with the most beautiful, gorgeous, on paper, beautiful man. But this man is the dumbest person I've ever crossed paths with my whole entire life. I get if somebody's not smart, like book smart, but like if you don't even have simple logic, like, like this man would like probably not look both ways before crossing the fucking street yeah he'd be looking at the sky yeah wait cut that cut I'm gonna go through my email I want to do this
Starting point is 00:19:17 segment I want to bring my brother Sammy in Sammy is my youngest brother he is probably one of my more favorite siblings. We just get along, we gap. It wasn't always like that, but he was kind of a pain in the ass when he was younger, but he's grown on me so much in these past few years. He's an angel. We're gonna have him on,
Starting point is 00:19:37 and he's gonna give you guys some male perspective on just random dating scenarios. And I think that'll be really funny and maybe insightful. Maybe, he's like one of those guys where he's like so, you know, wise beyond his years. He's only 23 years old. You're 23, right, Sammy? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:59 And I feel like he could give me relationship advice that I would take it to heart. Like I don't take anything he says with a grain of salt. I take it and I write it down in my notes app and I'm like, okay, these are some wise fucking words. That's really sweet. That is really nice of you to say. Sammy's a realist, so we're gonna pick his brain
Starting point is 00:20:15 or are you gonna pick his brain? Am I leaving? No, you're gonna stay here. I wanna break. Sammy's on the pod, yay! Sammy's here. So Sammy's my youngest brother. I'm Sammy's on the pod, yay! Sammy's here. So Sammy's my youngest brother.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I'm Sammy's favorite sister. Funny thing is, Sammy, me and you growing up, I feel like we butt heads a lot because I used to throw parties in the basement. Do you remember, you used to take pictures of the beer pong table? I had a really sick, like light up, sick beer pong table set up in our basement.
Starting point is 00:20:44 I used to through all the parties after proms after semi-formals pre-games. I mean it was safe because you couldn't really park here so it was like everyone would uber to my house and like there was no drunk driving. True. Yeah. It was a safe bet. Yeah. I mean I was like a 12 girl that just wanted to play xbox so. Remember when those two people were hooking up in your bed? Do you remember that? What was that in high school? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There was something that happened up there. Yeah, I do. And I think you whipped out a bad or something. I don't know about
Starting point is 00:21:14 that. But I definitely probably lost my mind somehow. Sammy used to take a picture of the beer pong table and send pictures in a group shot to my parents. You're a little snitchy. I was the biggest snitch. You were 12. I know. I just wanted to like, chill.
Starting point is 00:21:29 But I was like, be cool, bro. I forgot that you were young. I know, I know. And then I kind of like, learned to kind of do that. Yeah. You know? To be cool. It was a little learning.
Starting point is 00:21:38 But anyways, Sammy has become a great, amazing friend of mine. I want both of your opinions opinions on these by the way. Like I want, I want your outlook on it. All right, can you be friends with an ex? Yeah, I think so. Are you friends with any of your exes? I'd say I'm friendly with my exes.
Starting point is 00:21:59 But you're not like hanging out. No. I don't get how people do that. I mean, you can be friends with your ex, but I feel like you'd be, you'd have to be friends who fuck, you know? No, I feel like once you like cross that line, Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:13 it's hard to like undo it. I don't get people that are friends with their ex that think it makes no sense. I think it's like forced and I think it's extremely pick me. It's like, oh, we're like, we're different. We can be friends with each other because we like don't care as much. Unless you have kids together.
Starting point is 00:22:27 It's just a slippery slope when feelings are involved. Yeah. I feel like your two past relationships, the breakups were not terrible. Yeah, I mean, the first one was a high school relationship. Yeah. I was pretty young. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:22:40 I mean, the second one, that was a little different. A little different scenario, but. A little stickier. You know? What's your take on situationships? I don't know, I haven't really had a ton. You're very picky. I feel like you don't have time for a situationship.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Yeah, I just, I don't know. Especially recently, like ever since I graduated from school Been so busy doing things and like trying to find work and I also feel like you don't fuck with the head games that Situation shifts it all for you. I don't know No, I just like yeah, do you play do you play mind games with girls? No, I'm really straightforward. Yeah, maybe that's great forward to a fault straightforward. Yeah Yeah, I feel like I might be I don even straightforward. To a fault. Too straightforward, yeah. Yeah, too a fault. I feel like I might be too upfront.
Starting point is 00:23:26 I don't know. I feel like I would rather someone tell me how it is. Like remember that one that freak of the fucking week back in September sent me that long paragraph detailing why you didn't like me? I just never replied and that was the last time we spoke. That was too straightforward. It was too straightforward.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Yeah. So the ignorance is bliss, but also like, don't lead me on. It's hard to find like an in between. Those are sticky situations though, because I feel like it's better to be upfront to someone about how you actually feel. Rather than just like start to go and like, completely go like dry on them.
Starting point is 00:23:59 What do you think about a girl texting a guy first? I think it's definitely- To hang out, to do anything in the beginning stages of a relationship. I think the guy should text first with the majority. Why? I don't know, I mean, I feel like I'm so old fashioned in a way.
Starting point is 00:24:16 I feel like it just makes the most sense. Like that's how it has been and that's how it should stay. Yeah, it's just like how it always should be. It's like kinda how it always has been. I mean, it's not weird if the girl texts first or do you like I wouldn't do thrown off But do you think of them last you're like, who's this fucking need yet? Does it come off needy? Well, I think of them last would you like be like a lot of people are busy and like doing things and you know, like but in My experience I think just personally that the guy should initiate all things at first.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Maybe if you're dating, it's one thing, like yeah, text whenever, but. Would you consider yourself a texter in general? Or are you like FaceTime-er? I mean, recently I've been getting into like, at least like with my friends, I get so lazy to text, so I'll like send voice memos. Voice memos are big, yeah'll like send voice memos voice
Starting point is 00:25:09 Yeah, I love voice memos. It's just a lot easier now. I love my friends does it So I started doing it But uh, yeah, I would say I text a decent amount. I stopped using snapchat though like full time I've been like kind of off that i've kind of been back in a snapchat era So I like I love snapchat and I'll always love snapchat back in a Snapchat era. So I like, I love Snapchat and I'll always love Snapchat. So I'm gonna be like 80 years old using Snapchat. I have like a streak with a few people. Yeah, I have no streaks.
Starting point is 00:25:29 And I'm 27. No, it's dangerous. Yeah, I have no streaks. I don't use it at all anymore. I just like use it for group chats pretty much, you know. Oh, this girl is wondering, why did a guy who kissed me misled me and friendzoned me? Girl.
Starting point is 00:25:46 I don't think you even need a male perspective on this. Yeah. Yeah, there's some guys out there that are like that, you know, they'll do that, but just gotta take it on the chin, just turn the page. Have you ever done that? No, it's character. Have you ever kissed a girl and then just ghosted her?
Starting point is 00:26:00 Have you ever ghosted someone? Like fully, completely ghosted? Yeah, it's like out of the blue. Like this girl really thought you liked her. Have you ever ghosted someone like fully completely ghosted? Yeah, it's like out of the blue Like this girl really thought you liked her And like in the new really nah, I knew just dipped I mean, there's definitely been times like you said earlier like and it's true Like I am a very picky person with everything in my life, you know like relationships really just who I surround myself with in general,
Starting point is 00:26:25 but yeah, I think, I wouldn't say I've like fully just like ignored every text after like talking for like, you know, a few weeks, whatever, but there's like, you know, there's three sides to every story I feel like. Yeah. You know? Yeah. There's both sides and then the truth.
Starting point is 00:26:43 What makes you ghost someone or lose interest? Like when do you decide like that she's not it? Is there like certain things that give you the ick? I think just, yeah, well, yeah. I don't know, something that I've learned at least in like my, you know, with my last relationship and just in general, and this is no shot at anyone, but I think something big that I tell people all the time is to listen to the red flags early on
Starting point is 00:27:11 When you first talk to someone like if you like them like yet, don't look for the red flags But listen to them. We were just talking about this kind of don't look but listen Listen, they're different for everyone. It depends, it's more of just what you look for in a person, you know? Some people's red flags are different than others. I think, you know, for me, I'm someone who's very routine-oriented and I live my life like you know who I am,
Starting point is 00:27:35 I live my life a certain way, probably a lot differently than a lot of other people, but yeah, I would just, you know, if there's something that kinda comes up and bothers you, and you know it's gonna be a long-term issue down the line and it's gonna affect you, then you kind of have to know when to rip the bandaid and is it big enough to cost the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:27:57 And you don't, it doesn't mean that persons are bad person. No, not at all, that's not what I'm saying. But you never wanna make someone feel like they have to change to fit you or vice versa? Exactly, it's just like, you're doing them a favor and you're also doing yourself a favor. It's just not gonna work out. Yeah, you think about longevity.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Yeah, exactly, I always think about longevity with everything, so. The long-term investment. Exactly, and relationships are, they are, it's one of the biggest commitments you could possibly do. I always say dating is like interviewing but I mean it kind of is like I went on a date the other week and I felt like I was in a fucking interview and if I had to bring a resume yeah but your resume is like social media yeah I mean what you do is cool but like yeah I get that no uh
Starting point is 00:28:49 Yeah, I get that. No. Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I mean, do you think I have bad taste in men? I think you've definitely come across a couple bad apples who have not treated you the best, at least in my brother's perspective that you know, I didn't appreciate but you know, I think overall, the guys that I've usually met that you've brought home have been good guys, whether they stayed for two years or for two hours, they seem to be decent guys. Some of them are funny. Yeah, a lot of them are funny.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Have I ever brought a guy around you guys that you were like, oh, you should have given that guy another chance Like he's a nice guy, but I wanted nothing to do with him Well, there's one of your exes, you know that I really love yeah, and I hold it like a sweet spot in my heart for him He's a great guy. Do you still talk? Yeah, we still communicate to this day You know, yeah like you're in there, but he's kind of a fucking weird freak which one second But again back to my last point like the synergies didn't make sense long term
Starting point is 00:29:47 Oh, yeah, like he's a great fucking person and it just didn't work out. It's just too good See the one is this one who cheated on you? They all did. Oh, I think me and him Like kind of towards the end. I wouldn't even so I didn't know this. Yeah Yeah, like he got with this this bitch when he was that shit This person asks do you men actually feel things emotions I Think everyone does I can answer this too because I'm a man at the end of the day. Yeah. Yeah, we have emotions. You're a little sensitive Right. Yeah, the certain things like you're in tune with your feelings, I feel. You're being controlled.
Starting point is 00:30:26 I definitely am self-aware and I'm in control. Yeah, like you're not stoic. I'm so out of control of my emotions. I don't know. I'm a fucking mess, bro. Am I a mess when it comes to relationships? Aren't we all? No, I just think, like, you're in a spot in your life
Starting point is 00:30:44 where a relationship doesn't necessarily make that much sense for you. You travel every weekend, you're constantly doing things. Yeah. You know, like I feel like it just doesn't make sense for you to commit to someone else in a serious manner. No, I agree, but like, when am I gonna like stop? I don't know, I feel like maybe you're still like kind of
Starting point is 00:31:06 like I feel like new. I know, but I feel like I'm just gonna get busier. Yeah, but you also. But hopefully down the road I can like pick and choose things more like selectively and be able to, you know, control my schedule a little bit better. Yeah, I mean like you see it like with Alex and Matt, like shout out Alex and Matt by the way, I love them.
Starting point is 00:31:25 But no, you see like they have an amazing relationship and Alex has figured out a way to kind of work her schedule out and she's always on the go. I mean, talk about someone who's constantly doing things. Yeah. They're together a lot of times, right? Yeah, they're partners in life and in business. Yeah, like, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Well, but still like, they have an amazing life and in business too. Yeah, exactly. Well, but still, they have an amazing relationship and that's kind of one that I feel like a lot of people should not model themselves after, but aspire for, if you're doing something like what you do, that's what it should look like, I think. I was talking to mom about it one time and when I was in season, I would call you sometimes to check in and you'd be like 90 hours ahead
Starting point is 00:32:07 like in Australia, like with my guy, Travis Scott concert or something. And I'm like, oh geez, I didn't know you were doing that. How do you think you're more like mom and dad in ways? Like, where do you get, you know what I'm trying to ask? Like how are you like dad and how are you like mom? Well, I'm a little bit of both. I think I'm definitely 50-50. I guess you know my heart and like just the way I you know think it's important to treat people nicely and you know not that dad
Starting point is 00:32:37 doesn't but I really think that you know I get a lot of that from mom just kind of that like you know You know, I get a lot of that from mom, just kind of that like, you know, sympathetic kind of attribute I have, I guess, to other people. And, you know, the kind of softness, if you will. I think from dad, you know, I just I don't know. Dad has an interesting story. And like, you know, he we see him like on these videos and he's hilarious. But, you know, he's he's a whole other person kind of at times when you like really get to know the guy and you know he's like my
Starting point is 00:33:09 role model you know like I aspire to be everything like my dad and you know you know that and he's a grinder yeah he's he's a grinder and you know like I'm like constantly like almost like taking notes on the guy every day like I just want to be every bit of them and social anxiety fears him I want to have the mom but my dad keeps being like he has to be tan he has to be tan he goes show me the contract I'm like there's no need to go on being serious he's like show me the contract I'm like what contract are you talking about that's who he is you're like you're my dad I'm like does he think he's gonna get paid listen he's funny and he can bring some he can bring
Starting point is 00:33:42 the heat but I just don't think he understands how this works. You know, this is so new to him, too. He wants so badly to like know what the fuck is going on with what I do. Well, he's funny because he loves to read like the Wall Street Journal, and he'll see something about like OnlyFans and he'll be like, how do we have to get on this? We have to attack this. He takes advantage of this space now. I just don't
Starting point is 00:34:04 think he knows what it is or how it works. And like. No, like a couple years ago, he texted me and goes, are you on OnlyFans? You should get on OnlyFans, it's booming. And I was like, dad, did you do any research on what OnlyFans is as like an entity? Like he had no idea.
Starting point is 00:34:20 And I was like, you basically sell your nudes. Yeah. But for him, he's probably like a check is a check. I mean like. He's sell your nudes. Yeah. But for him, he's probably like a check is a check. I mean, like. He's like, do it. Yeah. Yeah. What do you, what have you read a flag of a girl
Starting point is 00:34:31 you were seeing had only fans? 100%, yeah. That's probably where I would draw the line. Yeah. I mean, like, again, two ages of their own, go ahead and do it. But like I said, in me personally, like I just, I couldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Like I couldn't, it's way too public. You know, I like to, you know, keep things like that. Like, you know, private. Well, like a girl's pussy. Well, just like you're like, yeah, like, you know, anything along those lines. Yeah. I mean, I just, I couldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:34:59 You know, I obviously like, we know some people who do, but, you know, and that's fine, but I just, we know some people who do, but yeah, you know, and that's fine, but I just, you know, in my personal opinion, not experience, but opinion, you know, I couldn't do it. I don't think personally I would do OnlyFans. I don't know if I have the assets, respect to people that can do that and do do that,
Starting point is 00:35:20 but for me, no. And I don't know, I mean, if I Were to come across a guy that does only fans. I don't know how I'd feel about it. I've that's I'm that's never happened to me Well, let's discuss the tears of only fans because sometimes aren't they like not showing anything Well, like sometimes they're like cooking and like some people like have like smoke session. Who's paying for that? Yeah, like do people pay for that? Are they naked though? Unless you don't want oil to splash on places,
Starting point is 00:35:49 you don't want oil to splash on. Well, obviously they're wearing an, no, I'm not saying just the cookie. I am saying, does everybody on OnlyFans show their puss or cock? No, I think there's definitely tears to it. I think you can be as telling as you want, but I feel like that will go into
Starting point is 00:36:02 how many subscribers you have. Right. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like that will go into how many subscribers you have. Right. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like you kind of got to. They make crazy money. Yeah, that's why I'm about to say, I think I would date one. Have you seen the,
Starting point is 00:36:16 I could see you dating an OnlyFans star. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, cause they make, have you seen the Bop House on TikTok? But the girls, the guys don't make that much. The girls make so much fucking money. They're making like three to five a month. I see like articles on Twitter and they're crushing it.
Starting point is 00:36:32 So I think her name's Sophie Rain. I think she made like $45 million last year. She's like 19. Yeah, I mean the big ones obviously, Karina Koff. She's not OnlyFans, yeah. But she makes a lot of. She makes a she makes a lot of dollars. I just like I Mean the money sounds really nice green. What are you certain? I'm flattered. Do you think I would ever?
Starting point is 00:36:55 Get paid on that you would do you know me people would pay to see that. Mm-hmm No My ding-a-ling sting in my pants, but like I mean if somebody if a guy had If a guy was making three to five million dollars a month on only fans what I consider dating him 100% You would be like private not secret. Yeah Nobody would know Like as a type of guy? Age?
Starting point is 00:37:26 He already told me yesterday. I gave you an opinion, yeah. Yeah. Let's repeat the opinion for the people. What did I say again? What was the certain person? Oh, right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:37 But that dude is the man. I literally said to him, I was like, why not, he's the fucking man. Hey, is he not your type? No, I was telling Sammy like my type is very, I don't have a type, like I don't know my type until the person's in front of me. And then like my type changes to that person.
Starting point is 00:37:51 I agree. I'm the same one. You know what I mean? I'm like more attracted to the person, not. Yeah, like I don't have a type. Like I like blondes, I like Italians, I like everything. Yeah, I'm the same. What do you think? I don't have like a blonde over.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Until it swabs me in the face. At all. So, do some guys do strictly blonde, strictly brunettes? Yeah, 100%. But I feel like a 10 out of 10 brunette versus like a 10 out of 10 blonde. I feel like if you were to ask the majority of, you know, guys that if like blonde or brunette, like they would have a preference. I actually do think that that is so true. I mean, I don't know, like, I don't think it
Starting point is 00:38:32 matters really that much. No. Well, there's so many people that are like, drop dead gorgeous with brunette, black, blonde, like, how's dating been in Boston, or just like the girl the scene in Boston? How has it been? Yeah, I mean, I haven't really been like, I've only been home from from college since mid November. So I thought, and you know, I haven't really been going out too much. So I guess it's fine. You know, like everyone's, you know, I love the
Starting point is 00:39:02 city. Like I love the people of Boston. Like I just don't, you know, like I said earlier, I've just been so busy doing other things. Like I haven't really been focusing on that too much. You know, I haven't gone on any dates in Boston in a while. Anyways, well next week, we are all going to Miami. I think by the time this episode comes out, we're gonna be in Miami. Yay! During the whole Unwell weekend,
Starting point is 00:39:27 spring break, which is gonna be fucking chaos in the most beautiful way. Sammy's gonna make an appearance. I'll be there, I'll be there, should be fun, I'm excited. You should get a base, Sam. First time in Miami. Really, you've never been? Never been. What?
Starting point is 00:39:40 No, I did the whole Fort Lauderdale thing years ago, like every college kid, but. Are you gonna let your hair loose? Like you don't really drink that much. You gonna drink in this? Yeah. Yeah, I mean. We're gonna get you drunk.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Obviously, I planned this trip a while to go with you guys and then my friends are also going, so we're gonna be doing stuff with them. And there's gonna be a ton of people that we know down there, so we're gonna have fun. I'm excited for this weekend. I feel like you should extend your trip and just fucking rip it with the spring break. Yeah
Starting point is 00:40:06 I know bring break in Miami has they put like laws and regulations on it because it's gotten so fucking crazy and out of hand Well, they've shut it down. They put curfews out Yeah, it should be fun. I'm excited You know first time you know, we got some good good plans ready to go And I think we should podcast there. This this will not be Sammy's last time on the extra dirty podcast. It definitely won't be great in his last time on the extra podcast. I feel good to be back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:35 I feel like we could like wrap up now and just say thank you all. Thank you both for coming on. Doing this with me. I'm a little bit over. Um, but as always, you can watch this on YouTube. You can listen on every other platform. Like, subscribe, leave a comment, do all the good things. But anyways, I love you all so very fucking much. And goodbye.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Bye, see you in Miami. See you in Miami. Say bye, Sammy. Oh, bye. Bye, everyone.

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