Extra Dirty with Hallie Batchelder - Haters are a symptom of success with Chris Heyn

Episode Date: January 16, 2025

It's a swaggy Thursday ladies! In this episode, Hallie is joined by friend, TikTok underground Unc, and corporate baddie Chris Heyn Jr! This week Hallie spills on how her TikTok journey has evolved over the past year (haters included!), while Chris dishes on his rise in the underground music scene and his swag-filled goals for 2025. The two unpack the pressure of hitting life milestones as you get older, their love for niche art and entertainers, and why checking out of reality at the movies is sometimes a necessity. Things heat up when Hallie puts Chris in the hot seat for a rapid-fire game—he’s answering all the juicy questions: Hinge vs. Raya, dating younger or older, favorite white boy of the month, celebrity crush, and more. And just when you think it’s over, Lauren joins the couch, giving her takes on first-date sex, morning vs. night sex, and what it means if your partner isn’t posting you on their socials. We love this little threesome, and we know you will too. Don’t forget to follow the show, leave a review, tell a dirty friend about the show, and find us on socials @extradirty. Love you!!

People call me a nabobaby all the time, but my dad wasn't an influencer. OK, guys, I'm doing something really fucking stupid right now. We have an emergency debrief situation. Hi, this is Halle from the streets of New York. Guys, I had every intention of staying in last night. Guys, I had every intention of staying in last night. Welcome back to an episode of Extra Dirty. I have a very, very handsome man with me today. Chris?

What's up? How are we? I'm so excited. Are you? I'm so excited. Are you nervous? Slightly. I've never done a podcast before.

It's okay. I don't know what I'm doing. How was your like first one? How did you ease into it? We obviously know how to do TikTok and cameras are great, but where did you start to get like, all right, let's do it, production, let's run it? When did that happen? How did my first episode go?

It was the scariest thing I've ever done. The first one's the most important one too, because it can't be a flop. So I redid it, I redid it twice. It was in a different setup. I was in my old apartment and I was like kind of sitting kind of like doing longer format of what I do on TikTok. And then I was like, uh, like then I was like, I might need a co-host. Something was missing from the recipe. And then I decided like, yeah, Lauren and Grayden, just like my friends on

because I feel like you're more most comfortable like with with people you know. Yeah, I love the idea of like, I mean, first doing your friends, because obviously comfortability is like the biggest thing, but I want to, and I think I told you this, I'm so inspired by like talk show hosts and like bringing on talent and celebrities and like interviewing people and just getting to know, wait, yeah, give me that martini.

I know, wait, we didn't cheers yet. I fucking love you, I'm so excited. Love you, let's go. No, this is actually a great kickoff. I love it though, I love us. I love us. This is so us. Wait, we have to talk about like how we first met

and how we know each other. Well, it's funny because it was really through like TikTok initially, but then we realized that we have a lot of the same like story and friends and like Nantucket and there's so much overlap with us. Yeah, I think right away we kind of hit it off like, well, we had two or three martinis probably. We're like, wait, we're very similar.

No, yeah, we have like the same taste in everything. When did you first find me? I love how you're like interviewing me to wait. I first really good at this. I first found you on my free page and a lot of people were like tagging me in your shit. And I love your stuff because it's so like, it's like almost like poetic. It's inspired by like, I don't know how to explain it. It's like 80s but like vibe. I'm super nostalgic. Yeah, I bring in so many old world like

I love that sex in the City's on back there. Like I'll mix in that with like Chief Keef or like things from our childhood. And just music I like and like being my own creative director. I think that's the biggest thing is like what you put out on the internet is a representation of you and like what you feel and what you like. So I just used it to kind of like screw around

and have fun. And it started to kind of take off after like doing it for years. But you started first with like talking videos or what like kind of took you off? No, oh fuck, I started with thirst traps. Like that was like in when I started. Yeah, cause you're hot, that makes sense.

No, like when I had hair. But like, no, like I started with thirst traps. I also went through a phase where I was just like ripping shots and not having any reaction. That was like a really weird phase of mine. And then I was like, there's no longevity to this. And people like were ripping me into shreds thinking I was an alcoholic.

I mean, they still do that, but like, and then I was like, you know what? Like I'm gonna start treating this platform like a private story and just kind of like debrief and pretend like everyone on the internet is like all my close friends. Yeah, I love that. And I'm like, I got fucked last night. I like really forget that like

I have an audience watching sometimes. You're so good about being vulnerable with like your sex life and everything. That's something I definitely keep private. Yeah. But you have such a great audience that's like, it's more girl driven, I think. I have more guys. Yeah. So they want such a great audience that's like, it's more girl driven, I think I have more guys. Yeah. So they want to see

like hard shit. Yeah. The mashups. Yeah. Yeah. But well, I think like as a female, it's important to be like open and honest about your sex life. I don't feel like a lot of people are 100% like, I think it's so cool. You're such a pioneer with it. And like, I mean,'s so cool that you're such a pioneer with it and like, little pat on the back there. I mean, maybe I go a little too far sometimes. Like when I went on Caller Dottie, I was like, I was just letting it rep.

And I was like, did I overshare? But I feel like oversharing is also like become part of my brand. But that's what like got exactly, that's what I think got you to where it is. Cause if you didn't push the limits a bit, it'd be like, yeah, you're cool. But like what's different about you? Yeah. That's what makes you stick if you didn't push the limits a bit, it'd be like, yeah, you're cool, but like what's different about you?

Like that's what makes you stick out. I definitely pushed the limits a lot. I also like, for what I talk about, I feel like I also try to not, I expected there to be a lot of internet hate. Once I like grow and grow and grow, I've been getting more hate and hate and hate. Naturally.

Naturally. I feel like hate is like, haters are like a symptom of success. 100%. If you don't have haters, you're not doing anything right. Like you're not pushing the boundaries. I'd be worried if no one was talking shit. People talking period like helps your brand.

I know that sounds terrible. But if people are talking about you, that means you're doing something to get, you know, wrestle the feathers or like just get people going. Yeah. So I get comments sometimes where it's like, I've never seen like unc hate. Like I've never seen anyone like hate on you, but I do, I get it all the time.

You do? I was just gonna ask, do you get internet hate? Yeah. Like on Reddit or where? I don't go on Reddit, but I just go through my approved and deleted and sometimes. So TikTok does a good job of like censoring hate sometimes. Yeah.

It'll be random people being like, you're just privileged. Like you got your job or you got to where you are because of your parents or like your family or I, you probably get a lot of the same stuff. People call me an Apple baby all the time. I'm like, but my dad wasn't an influencer. Oh my God. No, I was like, wait.

My dad wasn't a celebrity. So what are you talking about? My dad wasn't a TikToker. I don't understand. I was like, wait. My dad wasn't a celebrity. So what are you talking about? My dad wasn't a TikToker. I don't understand. But yeah, I get that shit too. It mixed in with obviously a lot. I feel like girls are, I don't get a lot of hate from guys.

Mostly girls. It's a girl and girl. I think girls are nastier. Girls are nasty. That's probably why I don't get much hate. Cause I have mostly guys. There's a girl and girl crime going on on the internet. I don't know what it is.

You guys gotta love each other. I try. I don't comment anything negative on anyone's post ever. Why would you? But I feel like that's a symptom of, I don't know. It's an insecurity. If you're hating on someone, it's because there's something within you

that is like you need to put it out on someone else because you're not feeling good about yourself. So whenever you're like, in any sense of the word, like hating on something or not liking something, it's because an insecurity. I think. Yeah, you're upset with yourself or something. Like I always picture, I'm like,

do you think Bella Adeeb would like comment on some like random girl she doesn't post and be like, you're a fucking ugly bitch. Never. I started doing, I've said like Kate Moss would never, have you heard me say that? Wait, I love that. I wanna like coin doing, I've said like Kate Moss would never, have you heard me say that? Wait, I love that. I wanna like coin that, I think.

I think you should patent that. We need some merch. Like the same with like Bella or any cool, think of any cool people we look up to, like they would never hate on someone. You look up to Kate Moss? Yeah, she's one of my definitely influences, like of females.

She's probably one of my top influences. Wait, really? Yeah, I love her. Who else? Give me a top three for females and males. That's a lot of people. Can I just do, yeah, let me just think of, off the top of my head.

David Beckham, Pharrell. Grew up being a huge fan of both of those. Pharrell's awesome. Pharrell's incredible. Pharrell is one of my North star, coolest guys. Just with how he crosses over through music and fashion, as a little kid, he was one of my like North star, coolest guys. Just with how he crosses over through music and fashion, like as a little kid, he was one of my biggest influences. So Pharrell, David Beckham, Kate Moss, my dad.

Those three, can I do, oh, JFK Jr. too. RIP. RIP. I knew you were gonna do something nostalgic in there, yeah. RIP. Wait, those are some good ones. Bella Deed's definitely up there for me. Yeah, I was gonna say, who are some good ones. Bella Deed's definitely up there for me. Yeah, I was gonna say, who are yours?

I think Bella Deed. The Hadid family's very cool. No, it's just something I used to be like, I used to be obsessed with both of them. I also hear they're like extremely nice people in person. Really? That's the best. I love nice people. I love hot people that are kind.

Hot, kind people are the best people in the world. Yeah. Hot and mean bad bad bad Ugly and mean is almost better than hot and mean. Yeah, don't be mean or ugly and nice is hotter than a hot and mean person Do that math, you know what I mean though. You're right though. It's true Who else besides the HUD like I don't know. I like love reality TV. I like fuck with Lisa Vanderpump. How do you? I don't watch any reality TV.

You don't? What do you watch? Like documentaries. Like what's your nightly routine look like? I wanna know. I get home from work at like 6.30. Yeah. I get to pole-lay most of the time.

I make content. That's actually when I edit a lot of my videos. I feel like you make a lot of content in your office too. I do, so I film it in the morning before my boss gets in. I'll do my like talking videos in the morning. I love them. And then, thank you. I have, they call them unc disciples now

of like all these kids. Started actually- I think I'm an unc disciple. Well, you're like my sister. So it's different. Your aunt, yeah. It started in Sweden and it's called Grish. Have you heard of it? Grish? No.

It's called Grish. But a style of finance bro, like wealthy street wear. And they're like, you're the king of Grish. Like, Ankh is Grish. How did you get Ankh? I don't know. Anytime I post like an aesthetic video now with like a song in the background that's not like da dee da dee da da da da da. Like an aesthetic sound. It's like more like rap based. Everyone's like, you're trying to be unk. I love that. Shout out Sweden. I don't know, like all my little Swedish boys, but that sounds so weird. No, but they're cool. I'm going to go to Sweden actually in a month. But wait, are you going to get like fanboy there? Maybe, I don't know.

We'll see. Is your majority if you're demographic in Sweden? No, it just started in Sweden. Like this was last year at this time. It was like randomly I got like 14 or 15,000 followers from like Stockholm. Wait, that's so interesting. I know, and then it grew to US and now it's like more.

When did you blow up? Was there a video in mind? Like that you were like, okay. So Netspend, there's something, you know Netspend? He's an artist. So I love underground music, obviously. Like that's part of how I kind of gained the following. It's like I'm always up on music and I love rap.

So he's a cool kid. He's like 17 and people hate on him a lot because he's this white kid and he's kind of like. Wait, I do know who you're talking about. Is he like a, he kind of looks like Kid Leroy or am I making- He kind of is like Kurt Cobain energy. And I posted a video to one of his songs

that I was like addicted to. And it was at the Metropolitan, like we were at family dinner and Christmas time. It was like December, early December. And that one kind of took off. And then it started to snowball because it just was like the stuff I was normally doing. But then I had eyeballs.

So then once that happened, it kind of just changed. And there were a couple other artists that, like Ian, Ian's my boy. Like we found each other last year at this time, just on TikTok, we were just like fans of each other. And it was before he blew up and kind of before I started to get more of a following too. And yeah, I just posted like some of his sounds.

So it was promoting people's music that I liked. Yeah. Which is cool. That was like more like niche and like, Ian's big now that I see. He's huge. Yeah, he's going on tour again. And do you work with him or are you just buddies with him?

Just buddies. We're just like us. We're just randomly similar in a lot of ways. Yeah. He's young though, right? Yeah, he's young. He's 19. He's 19.

He's a cutie pie. He dropped out of Clemson for this and now it's working out. It's definitely working out for him. He's the man. He's very cool. He's very cool. He's very mature for his age too. Like when he didn't tell me at first that he was 19.

So like we hung out a couple of times and then I found out because I was with him and his mom. And it was his birthday. And I was like, how old are you turning? And it was like 19. I was like, whoa, like you're very young. How old are you? 31.

31. It's pretty old. It's not old, you're not that much older than me. It's not, but like for the internet and for like being involved in the underground and all that, like it's getting up there. Yeah. But we're in the same range, I would say.

I know, I feel like every one of my friends right now is like getting engaged and shit. And I'm like, I have no interest. No. Like I literally have no interest. No, like, I literally have no interest. I feel like I haven't even tapped into like my full potential yet. Not even just career wise, but like, looks wise. I feel like I'm gonna like I have another peak coming. Yeah, of course. It's like 35 to 40. I think is like a

great peak. But I feel the same. Like I was at a dinner with a bunch of my fraternity buddies last night. And every single one of them, one of them has a wife now he just got married. Yeah, then one is engaged. Then one has his girlfriend and I was just seventh wheel and I'm like, every everyone's gone. But like, do you want that? No, right now? I don't. I have no interest. I don't at all. Yeah, we're similar. I know. And everyone's

like, how is this man single? That sounds weird to say. But everyone's like, why is he single or like, what's up? And I'm like, I don't want. Like what's wrong with him? Yes, exactly. But I don't want that. I just feel like society puts like a lot of pressure on us to like reach certain milestones

when we get to certain ages. And I just do not fuck with any milestones. I feel like career wise, I didn't even start having like a real income slash career until like last year, the age of 26. That's pretty good though. And look at, look at you now. I was just riding the wave on Nantucket. Just being a hostess. Wait, so you were hostess at Galley, right?

Galley and crew. And they used to call me too job hello. Love. Anyways, I digress. Well, so we're talking about Nantucket. Yeah, but I was just hosting out there just in the summers, but then I would come back to New York. I obviously had an apartment here. My dad was paying for it. He's still paying for the majority of it. I want to say like, cut that, but like keep that in.

That's pretty real though. Keep that shit in. Can I swear to you? Oh yeah. Do you know what, have you listened to any of my episodes? Yes, but like I still want to be respectful. I talk about like anal. Yeah.

Well, if you want to swear, that'd be like for you. For me that's badass. Because you're a corporate baddie. Yeah. I love how like open and comfortable it is, but yes, I do have a corporate job. Yeah. Everyone asks about my job a lot too.

Like so many, now people found my email and stuff and I get so many calls. And like during the day at my office, people will cold call me. Like I answered the phone one day and I was like, Chris, I'm like, oh, oh, my God. Oh, I'm good to you. I was like, no, like, don't you got my corporate line? Like, no, no block. Does your job ever get bothered that you are posting online?

I get that question a lot, too. Yeah, they they don't really because my company is siloed into like little teams. So it's me and my boss. Like I don't really report to a manager per se or like bigger people. So as long as I'm doing my job and I don't let social media get in the way of work,

then like, you know, it's 2025. We all have like lives outside the office. Yeah. It just happens that like I have a, you know. As long as you're like not involved in any scandal or whatever. Yes, I'm scared of scandals. I feel like you do well in scandals. I am terrified of scandals.

There's like scandals that have been put out about me that aren't even like factual. They're like, sometimes I feel like some of the shit I get online is literally like fan fiction. They just make up plot lines for different narratives that don't exist. They have confidence that they're like, oh yeah, Hallie did this.

It's like, where did you come up with this? Well, like if it's online and it's readable, and if you don't debunk it, but I'm like, there's a lot of shit, I'm like, I'm not just debunking every thing I see. Yeah, I don't feel like responding to a lot of things. It'll just bring more attention to those things. Part of the gig, you know?

Yeah. Okay, we're back. Is everything working now? Jesus Christ. We're having some technical difficulties. I think we could get through anything together. No, we can. Where do we leave off?

I think we left off at Vampires. Yeah, so you were saying how we're, are you vampy? Cause I'm pretty vampy. I'm vampy, but I don't think I would label my, we don't like labels. No, no labels ever. No labels ever.

But I would say, I was like telling you about this earlier, but I was saying, like Lauren compares me like Megan Fox in Jennifer's body. Obviously not like looks wise and aura. She also gives me. Strong aura though. She gives me by panic, but like also. That's her job is to give by panic I think.

No, literally. Yeah. It's in the prerequisite. She was one of my first crushes actually. Really? Yeah, love her. Yeah, she's so hot. By panic.

By panic. But like when I don't sleep with a guy for a long time, I turn like gray in the face, pale, I like lose weight. And then I just. Turns to vampire. I need, I need blood. I just need semen. I can't believe you haven't seen Nosferatu or like,

is this the first time you're hearing of it? Is it through me? I think Lauren may have mentioned that we should watch Nosferatu. Nellie F us for us Nellie for Tato But um, we never got to it I don't go to the movies often It's funny. That's a new thing for me is going to the movies because I can check out It's one of the few times where like I won't look at my phone. Yeah, put it away and

What else I see I saw another scary movie a couple months ago. I don't know, the movies is nice. I went through years of not going to the movies because it's like too, I don't know. You feel like a kid. Yeah. But then it's like kind of, there's a euphoria about leaving a movie theater.

After a good movie, when you leave the movie theater and your fingers are all buttery and it's just like. Yeah. You like popcorn? Yeah, I like popcorn. Obsessed with popcorn. Yeah, I like popcorn. Love the sense of popcorn. Yeah, I love popcorn. I need to watch it though.

You do. You need to report back because I feel like that's a movie that you should watch. Is it a long movie? I have ADHD. Yeah, it's like a movie length, like an hour, maybe 45. I can do that.

You can do it. Once I went to the movies, and this is like will scar me forever. I was like probably nine years old and my dad brought us to watch Hong Kong, what's it called? King Kong, not Hong Kong. My dad brought us to watch King Kong.

I remember seeing that too and it was too long. And I was like fuck. But it was also like scary as shit. But it was also like long as shit. Was Nicole Kidman in that? Did I just make that up? I feel like she's in everything. Have you seen Baby Girl?

No, I didn't see it yet. I wanna watch Baby Girl. Me too, one of my friends just saw it. Maybe we go see that. I DM that man. Who? The co-star, he didn't reply. I feel like anytime you DM someone,

they're gonna reply. I'm not verified. How do we get verified on TikTok by the way? Well, I guess it doesn't. I feel like it's hard to get verified. I mean, if I wanted to, I could buy like a blue check on Instagram, but I refuse to do that. It's not real.

But you have a lot more security, I feel like, if you have a blue check on Instagram, my shit gets hacked all the time. I'm like, stop. We should verify you. Yeah. Except I guess it's coming soon. It'll happen, I think.

You think? Yeah, 2025 predictions. I just put that on my mood board. Yeah. What are Chris Hinds goals for 2025? Survive and be swag. Everyone keeps asking me, like, choose your goals. I don't know.

I feel like we're living in a crazy reality right now, and so much can be taken away so quickly. Yeah. I don't know. Not to get too deep with that, but. And you can't. We can't think about it too much, but it's just crazy that in a matter of seconds,

things change. And I wanna continue on a positive path and just keeping me and having fun and networking and meeting people. For me, people make New Year's resolutions and all this bullshit. I literally just wanna have a pulse. Yeah.

My thing is survive and be swag and world domination. I like that. Can we do that together? I feel like we could collab there. I see a collab there. I also need you to make that Kate Moss merch. I know. You know the Supreme, she was like big with Supreme.

She was, yeah. I had a shirt back in like middle school when I was super into Supreme. I still kind of am. But her smoking and her like mink coat. I feel like that's you. No, I do look up to her. I don't think there's too many women

that like can compare to her right now. I don't know. I think she's one of the coolest people there is. I love her. So she's beautiful. I don't know if I'll ever meet you, but you're not all of mine. We fuck with you.

We fuck with you. Heavy. Heavy. Heavy. She also has a beautiful daughter. She does. Do you know Lila Moss? I've heard. I don't like know her.

She's gorgeous. And she's also a style icon. She started her own agency, right? I think she has a- Did Kate or did- Kate did. Cause I think Jordan Barrett is signed to that you know, Jordan Barrett model. Yes, I actually was in LA saying the petite Hermitage not too long ago back in fall when I

was looking at with that guy that put me up at the petite Hermitage. And I saw Jordan Barrett there. He seems cool. I also the rock like there was a lot of random celebrities running around and- What do you think of The Rock? He is a handsome guy, very friendly. We were in the elevator together. He seems a little mass market.

I know that sounds terrible of me to say. Like kind of like John Cena? Yes. And Kevin Hart. There's like a level of people that are so famous and so mass market, where to me that like turns me off a bit. Yeah. Cause you're too widespread.

You're too like. Feel like being niches in. Yes, niche is much cooler. Yeah. I'm so underground. I love underground. Yeah. You know, like I don't think we're underground anymore,

but you know what I mean? Like once you get that big and you're doing like target commercials and like baby wipes and like everything, and you're a rock, I'm like, what are you about though? No disrespect, he's obviously made a huge career for himself and like, that's incredible, but I don't know. But you think there's some swag in being niche.

Yes, I always support the kind of like niche cool kid, I guess. Yeah. Like underdog a little bit. Yeah, like the underground. Underground, I like the underground. Yeah. Which is cooler. I agree with that.

I like that. Maybe it's a bad mentality because so much of like the music and entertainment industry is about being big, obviously. And if you're like too much of a hipster, it's hard because you're critiquing everything too much. And it's like, if the numbers do well, or if it's pop music or like people love it,

then I don't like it sometimes because I see the reaction of like, this is too normal. Does that make any sense? Yeah, no, that makes sense to me. But I need to fix that maybe and myself with like stopping to niche or to underground. No, I think being niche is important. It gives you like, oh, like I like this guy because of X, Y and Z.

You don't want to be too spread out. True. If you stand for everything, what do you stand for? Exactly. That's what I mean. If you're for everyone, for no one real. And that's all I'm going to. OK, what else? Let me I feel like we should do, I wanna do this rapid fire game with you.

Okay. It's just gonna be a quick, like quick answer. Hot first thing that comes to mind. Like it's more like I'm gonna say X or Y and you're gonna say Y or X. Hint or Raya. I don't like dating apps. Raya, sorry.

Do I have to pick one? Yeah, you have to pick one. Raya. Raya, sorry. Do I have to pick one? Yeah, you have to pick one. Raya. Raya's the only one I tried and I deleted it. So you got onto Raya? Yeah, I did. So I was, yeah, we'll leave it at that. I was on Raya for a bit and I didn't.

It doesn't, they match you with people in fucking Stockholm or Switzerland. You're like, what do you expect me to fucking do now? I hate to say, but like, but I wanna try to be that hopeless romantic who meets someone in person. Or you lock eyes with someone across the bar and it's like, wow, we're gonna live together forever, even though that doesn't happen.

No, I think that does happen though. So, Raya, I guess. Okay. Younger or older? Older. Next question. Album of the year prediction. If Cardi ever drops.

Cardi forever. Cardi is one of my favorite artists, period. If I could get like into the lore of me and Cardi, I've been a huge Cardi fan since I was in college. And that's another thing of like, I loved him when he was underground Cardi, like Cash Cardi. Cash Cardi? Cash Cardi was- That's another thing of like, I loved him when he was underground Cardi, like Cash Cardi. Cash Cardi?

Cash Cardi was- That's a thing? Yeah, that's when he was like SoundCloud Cardi, like 2015, 2016. He's one of my top three favorite rappers. One of the coolest guys ever, but he's always fucked with his fans of like, not dropping and not giving them what they want,

which is where he gets power because- He blue balls his fans. He blue balls everyone. He just edges them forever and then like never drops. I fuck with that, which is sick. But it's also like as a fan, you want to listen to like music. I want to listen to a I. Cardi. I do. I love it. I love the I. Cardi.

People should I posted a video on TikTok over the summer of me like lip syncing to a I. Cardi. And I was getting trashed. You same. I had a video that I was like, what? I had a video do pretty well in one of my like edits. And people were so mad because they're like, don't support AI Cardi. This isn't real Cardi.

I was like, I don't care. It's fire. Like, this is great. Just sound. It just sounds good. But yeah, Cardi is one of my favorite artists. Definitely has been for a long time. So if he drops, that'll be album of the year. Okay is a partner subscribing to only fans considered cheating

No, it's weird. I agree. Just jack off if you wanna yeah, whatever But like I think it's cheating but it's kind of weird like some I know some girls get offended when their boyfriends watch porn And I'm like this is life. It It's like less of neck strain on me. Yeah, I don't think that's cheating. I think people need always like an outlet and they need more stimulation. Yes. We're kind of like an over-stimmed generation

and we always need constant like what's hot, what's good. So that's not cheating. Cheating is like being with someone else. It's not looking at someone else. I like that. But you think, would you be like, I haven't had a boyfriend so long, but I feel like the thought of my boyfriend

getting off to another girl. You would hate that? No, I kind of like that. But that might be a mean thing. That's where me and Lauren are sick in the head because this is where we get into trouble. Anyhow, okay, location sharing with a partner. Yes or no?

Oh, good question. I say no, I think you should have trust. And I like location sharing with like, it's funny. I think not to generalize, but I think it's more of a girl thing. Like many of my guy friends, we don't, we started to location share because it's fun to like see where our friends are.

But it was most of my girlfriends that are like more about it. Yeah. Well, I think for girls, we all share our locations because it's like a safety measure. Of course, yeah. If you're like living in the city, feel like you should share your location with your girlfriend just to make sure they get home safe.

For sure. But bitches also be crazy. And I remember when I had a boyfriend, I would be stalking his location constantly. That's what I mean. I think when you're actually with someone, it's weird to be looking at their location. Yeah. Like for a friend, if you're checking on them, where are they, are they close, can we hang out? But if it's like your partner, I think that's weird.

I don't think that's good. I like that. I like these takes, Chris. Yeah, thank you. Who's your favorite white boy of the month? Do you know that saying? Yeah, of course. I got nominated a couple of times.

You did? I did, but I don't know if I ever won it. I never see who wins. I think it just keeps going. Wait, I wanna be a white boy of the month. You could be white girl of the month. I don't know if that's a thing. Yeah, I think it's white boy of the month.

I wanna say some of my like rapper friends. Yeah, you wanna say Ian. I wanna say Ian or Nets Bend, or there's, it's funny, there's this new rapper out of Florida that I'm not sure yet if I like. I'm not gonna drop his name, but like he's been nominated recently. Really?

Yeah, it's hard to give an answer. I know, any actors? Like what do you think of Timothy? Timothy, I was just gonna say, I think he's cool. I think he's grounded. Yeah, I saw his takes on football, like he knows a lot about football and I thought that was like interesting lore.

He's been dropping a lot more lore recently and he seems like very relatable and very cool. Yeah, like in touch. I like him, I like him. I would hang out with him. I feel like we would be like homies, but I think he's cool. I think he's a great actor and one of our,

like our new generation, like superstar actor kind of. I agree with that. Who is- Wait, can I go back to that though? What do you think about him dating Kendall? Kylie. Sorry? Kylie. Sorry, Kylie. I mean, I like it.

It's unexpected. I don't see them together, but I like them both a lot. I go based off of who she's been with before. I just, I can't gauge her type right now. But I think... It's kind of all over the map. Yeah, and they keep the relationship so private. So who's me to make comment on it?

I don't really know. But they're, I think as long as they're both happy. That's so real of you. Thank you. I mean, that's really all that matters. I mean, like who gives a fuck about anyone else's opinion? True. You know? Yeah, I just it put him on another superstar status because any of the girl like Tyga, I'm thinking of

the past relationships was what? She was Tyga and Travis Scott, Travis Scott, like Tyga, I'm thinking of the past relationships was what? She was Tyga and Travis Scott. Tyga, Travis Scott, like, and then Timothy? I don't know. It just, no, it was a switch up. It was a swerve. Yeah, it was a swerve, it was a curve ball, but- I'm here for it.

If they're happy, that's all that matters. Yeah, and he seems like a very smart person. They're both. She's obviously very smart. Extremely smart and successful. Yeah. And young. Yeah. So let's go, I think we support them. I mean, I want her to be in her like,

kind of like dating era, like ho era. Is that weird to say? I feel like she's always in a serious relationship. I think she only does relationships. That's opposite of us. Yeah, I'm like, I can't imagine. But like, I mean, good for her. I can't lock anyone down.

They're a power couple, so shout out. Yeah, okay, celebrity crush. It's either like Megan Fox or Daniel Craig. We like same though. By panic. By panic. This episode, yeah. Early James Bond, Casino Royale. That was

like a panic moment for me. Do you ever see that where he's coming out of the water in a like a blue little bathing suit? I thought that was what's her name? She was on Real Housewives, Denise Richards. When she was coming out of the water. She was in there. She was in. She was in James Bond. Yeah. It wasn't Casino Royale though, was it? Is there multiple? Are you kidding? There's so many James Bond's. Wait, there are a bunch.

Adele sang over one of them, right? Yes. She was the soundtrack for one of them. I think it was Skyfall. Skyfall. Makes sense, because that was the soundtrack. Yeah, it makes sense. Okay.

I don't know if that's my celebrity crush though. I don't know if I have one. This is hard. No, it is hard. Who's yours? Like Jacob Laurida, I would fucking suck him sideways. He seems like he would be my bro, like it's a bro. But like he's also like my peel to artsy for me.

Like I think he would make me like picnic and shit. Yeah, he'd be like, I don't know, be like in Paris by like the canals and there'd be wine and cheese. Bring out my like. 1942 like cheese. Yeah, like his old camera long exposure. Yeah, that would definitely happen. Yeah, film camera.

Yeah, he's artsy cool and I'm not artsy at all. You have your bits. I have my bits. Thank you for saying that. Of course. I appreciate that. Underrated TikTok follow. Oh, can I look at my phone?

Yeah, of course. I have to check. I have so many of these. I don't follow that many people. How many people do you follow on TikTok? I follow 320. I think I follow less. I used to follow a bunch of really like artsy accounts, like aesthetic accounts and ASMR things

where it was like beautiful scenery and who's your favorite follow? Can I ask it back on you? Paris Hilton just followed me. Sick. My girl. I sat across from her at a dinner one time and she was iconic. She is iconic.

I love her. Tate McCray would be a good one. I love her. I think she's like a better Britney Spears of our generation. Better? Yeah. My sister would be so mad. Really?

I mean, I love Britney, but I just think Tay is so talented. Wait, I followed Soulja Boy recently. Amazing dancer. Soulja Boy follows you? No, he didn't follow you back, which I'm kind of pissed about. Soulja Boy, get your shit together. Soulja Boy, you were one of my bigger influences

in middle school, eighth grade, ninth grade. You cranked that Soulja Boy, that's all I did. That was me at every dance. I was really good at it randomly. You loved Chief Kja Boy, that's all I did. That was me at every dance. I was like really good at it, randomly. You love Chief Keef too. Yeah, huge on Chief Keef. Yeah. Jack Mus, randomly one of my favorite designers.

You know Jack Mus? So these people that follow you? No, I'm going through, I follow them. Okay. Should I flex on some of the people that follow me? Grimes, you know Grimes? I love Grimes, she's so cool. Oh, like Yolanda Moskvich?

Yeah. Wait, what? Yeah, I love her, she follows me. What's up, Grimes? What's up, Grimes? Oh, Mr. Bruv. He's this really cool guy from the UK. Him and his girlfriend have bruv dates.

It's like they do a bruv date where they do a zen pouch in a Guinness and they sit outside and she's really hot and he's really cool and wears Margielas and Like he's cool. Mr. Bruv. Mr. Bruv. Mr. Bruv? Wait, I need to follow him. Yeah, he's cool. Wait, I love that. Okay

What's your martini order? You know it. Yeah, it's a- Grey goose straight up. No garnish. It kind of scares people. No, but it's kind of like a fucking power move. It's so your life Vesper, you know, the James Bond Vesper. No, you don't know James Bond. I'm learning this that she doesn't know like movies.

I know that she never watched Titanic. I've ADHD. You've never seen Titanic. Guys like a weird flex. Like, yeah, I'm gonna sit down with you and watch a room of like uneducated children. No, I know. Literally though. Those were good.

Those were good ones. There's a lot more. Keep going. Let's do some more. Lauren, do you want to get in here? Lauren's getting lonely over in the corner. Lauren, take a sip of vodka. You're from Russia.

I feel like you can do that. Oh my God. Take a sip. I'm scared of those. No, it's great. No, it's actually not that bad. It's for your palate. It's like a...

Like a disinfectant? Yes. It makes you healthy. Your stomach gets better. Yeah, it's good for your gut health. It's like an amino acid or, I don't know. My mom always used to tell me that if your stomach's upset, you should drink vodka.

Really? What age did she tell you this? Yeah, like if you are having diarrhea, you should drink vodka. Really? What age did she tell you this? Yeah, like if you like are like having diarrhea, you should drink vodka. It'll settle your stomach. Wait, I feel like at what age? Maybe not. Alright, Lauren. Okay, I want your takes on these as well. Okay. Boxers, briefs or commando for a guy. Hopefully mean if a man is going commando and denim I'm concerned about chafing. That would hurt. What are you wearing? Briefs. Boxers are kind of chucky. It's nice to go commando sometimes if

you're wearing like mess yeah sweatpants what parents are like mesh things, but usually briefs Do you get like hot when you go like commando like? Yeah, right, but like if it's a nice breathable fabric Doing my hair and I'm like not wearing any pants and then and I'm like not wearing any pants and then I start like, I start like sweating. Wait, what? That's for fun. Why are you like doing your hair pantless?

Because it gets so hot in my bathroom that I like take my clothes off and then I'm like sweating. Do you know what I mean? I think it's like a porno. Wait, so you get ready naked. Yeah, brunette does her hair naked in bathroom. I don't like the way things are. That's a porno of title right now.

Yeah, wait, I like, I like don't like to get ready naked. I like need sweatpants and stuff. I don't either. I put my briefs, all right, here's briefs. Cause I just thought I put my briefs on when I like get ready. So briefs. Yeah, it's just when I'm like doing my hair,

it gets very hot and you know. Okay. I understand. Next question. Sex on the first date. I do this all the time. so you know my take on it. I mean, like, yeah. Vibrate out.

I've never been on a date. What? Like I've never started a relationship by going on a date. It's all in a reverse at this point. I feel like people hook up and then they like, maybe I wanna go on a date with this person. Which is not a millennial thing, I don't think.

No, like Chris. Chris, what do you think? You are a man. You are a millennial. Stop. Like three years older than you, don't do that. I think it's vibing out. Like if you really like the person and you're connecting,

I try to say don't have sex on the first date because if you see longevity with a person, I think there's like something cool about keeping it protected. What if they have a tiny dick? That's a whole nother question. Yeah, but like you need to know like right away. I don't wanna go on a date with him. Well, I feel.

But what if you really like the person? I'm like this. Yeah, that's hard. I don't know. What do you say? I have usually... I don't think I've ever had sex on the first date. I don't actually like date.

I was gonna say the same thing. I don't like go on dates. Yeah, I don't go on dates either, but I have had sex on the first date. But... But did you lead with it being like a hookup date or like, hey, like maybe we'll have like have kids together. Or like. I never think about having kids with the man ever.

I do want kids. Something you don't know about Hallie, which she's really good with babies. I'm really good with babies. I didn't know that. Yeah. It's like, it's freaky. They love her.

I actually like am very, I'm gonna be a very good mom one day. I bet you will. But for now I'm gonna be a very good mom one day. I bet you will. But for now I'm just not. We're just chilling. I'm good at being unc though. Funny enough, my oldest nephew, so I have two older sisters and they both have kids,

like little kids, but the oldest one is eight now. And he sent me the first text today. His name is Blake and he's like, hey uncle, it's Blake. And I responded with like a what up Blake and I said like a Dracula emoji and I don't think he knows how to respond now. You really love vampires. Love, right?

I like love that. It's dropping more. Yeah, like everything you're like, yeah, Dracula, that's for all two. Okay, what do you think about your partner's not posting you? Enjoy the privacy or big red flag? Oh, that's hard. I think when I was younger, I cared. Now I don't really care. your partner's not posting you. Enjoy the privacy or being a red flag. That's hard. I think when I was younger, I cared.

Now I don't really care. I don't care, same. So in a past relationship, I was getting in trouble because I wasn't posting them enough. And that pissed me off because I don't like being told like what to do. Or like, you know, it should happen organically.

Like if I want to post, you will. Yeah, it depends on the person. But I also like keeping my private life kind of private. So, hard. Keep people on their toes. Yeah, ambiguity. Morning sex or night sex? Both.

Both, and in the middle. Night. My favorite's like when they wake you up in the middle of the night and they like are just poking you with their penis. That's like my least favorite. That's my favorite. You're in a relationship.

That was like a, I thought they liked me when they were doing that. Peter Pan used to wake me up all the time in the middle of the night, just poking me with his dick and playing porn on surround sound. So it made it seem like we're in a simulation of us having a fucking orgy. That was a him problem.

He like- I loved it though. He like wanted to have a threesome with you so badly. It was the one thing I didn't give him. Yeah. I gave him my self respect, dignity, pride. Wouldn't give him a fucking three way. I just like couldn't. I like couldn't share him.

I couldn't share him. Yeah. I didn't want to share him. No, I like loved him. But like I also know you're like, I hated how much he wanted it. If he didn't want it that much. If you wanted to like 50%, I would have done it. Yeah. But I liked him too much. If you're gonna have a three way

with someone that you love, the other person has to be a random person. See, I don't even know if I can have a three way. Really, it would be hard for me. Why? Because if I really, if I don't even know if I can have a three way. I think it would be hard for me. Why? Because if I don't love the person, it's like never. But if I really love the person, I don't think I... No, never. I don't think I could share someone I love, which is... That's...

Respect. Grandma. No, no, no, that's pretty normal. I guess that's normal, but like... I guess. Wait, that's like normal. That's the norm. That's not hot.

Like it's hotter. I mean, three swims are hot, obviously, but if I like... I's like normal. That's not hot. That's not hot. Like it's hotter. I mean, three films are hot, obviously. But if I like, I don't know, I could get to a place where I could, I guess. Depends on the person. You don't have to. I think I don't. Thank you. I don't think I'm really going to give my take care of it.

Yeah, have three some now. Yeah, no, I mean, I would do it again, but I would have to be the right guy. He was not the right guy. No, he would like not have paid attention to me. No, I'm like, no, no, no, not that. It's like he I'm thinking about what's them insects in the city when Charlotte's guy was trying to have a threesome with her

and he was just like so focused on the other girl. That's what I'm picturing Peter Pan as. Yeah. You're just being he was good in bed though. And he was so rich. I think about him all day. Just the one that got away. Sounds like a great white elephant. Oh, great. He's like the one that like he's the money that got away. No, there's no money that ever gets away. No, that's not what happened. He just like stopped talking to me.

You got ghosted? Have you ever been ghosted before? Yes, him, the only man that ever ghosted to me. Did he ghost you? It like humbled the fuck out of me. Did he ghost you? He just stopped talking to me. But he never.

And I had chlamydia and a child. Wait, but he like never, he just like didn't talk to anybody and he would always blame work. Like he wouldn't like tall then he started dating some really beautiful, rich, beautiful model now and super in love. He's super in love and she's the most beautiful girl that the world's ever so nice of you. Someone like, Oh, wait, he's doing so well. He's like

Jake, the most gorgeous person I've ever seen. I of our life. I'm like, wait, no. We were like side eyeing each other being like, we're like, no, your audience. What is happening right now? Anyways, I'm bitter as fuck. Oh hey, lip syncing TikTok's hot or not? If you're hot. I think it all depends on your aura.

I think it's okay. If you can pull it off. I feel like as a girl, it's okay. For guys? The guy just fucked his lips in class. I mean, he's a very attractive man. He's beautiful. But... To my point, I think if you can pull it off,

it's like, all right, obviously it's cringey, but like anything we kind of do is cringey now. So it's like... That's true, I'm so cringey. That's true. We're cringey. I kind of fuck with it though. I think cringe aesthetic is in.

Yeah, you have to be. Like cringe kinda helps you get, you know Vinny Hacker, that kid? Yeah. So he talks about how every time he posts a TikTok, it's like he cringes at himself. He's like, oh fuck. And then he'll post it and it'll go crazy.

Yeah. But like that, you know, it's sort of where we're at. Okay, would you date someone that doesn't drink? Yeah. Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. I think it would be hard because the initial like get to know someone, it's so much easier with a buffer. So like I like drinking but I have obviously had I have a lot of sober friends and like I just have deep connections with people without alcohol.

But no, I think that's important to know how to do too. Yeah. Maybe it's nice to go sober together. I think it's harder like if you're just starting out dating and the person's sober and you're drinking, it's like this disconnect. Yeah, if they're not drinking, I probably won't drink. You know what I mean?

Yeah, what's his face? I was hooking up with him in the fall. He was not drinking at all. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, I feel like that's probably one of the reasons that led to that downfall. But he was always like pouring my sake for me and I was like, oh, like, you're so sweet.

But like, he was definitely like, this girl's booze back. Wait, at least that's nice. Like he was giving you drinks. He was allowing me to drink, but like, I feel like. Oh, fuck. But I feel like, oh my God. But I feel like it was like in the back of his mind, maybe he didn't want me to.

He wanted me to watch weird movies. It's funny, because some of my sober friends are enablers, so they'll get, like you were just saying, pouring sake. A lot of my friends will make me drink more. Like bite curiously Yes, yeah, maybe that's what he was doing. He was trying to get well I don't but I don't know though cuz the first time that we were ever with him

He like sent you home. He was like, oh, I don't want to get like a weed I don't want to hook up like I don't want to take advantage of you cuz you're drunk He was like that about sex. He was like, I don't know with people. Okay He's probably the weirdest person I've ever gone with my whole entire life. I mean, we were on a lunch, we were on our own lunch date and he came to say goodbye and literally like he was like smoldering Hallie. He was like this and I was just sitting there like literally drinking my like mussels stew. Like we were in love for like five minutes. Connection is powerful he was

hot though i'd do it again he was would you date someone that hates pets no i love dogs yeah no why would you hate pets that's so weird i have never owned a pet but i'm better with babies but you don't hate pets i don't hate pets yeah the question was hate i am a pet we We're pets. We're pets. So. Okay guys. Fuck.

You're like, I am a pet. I feel like you could adopt me. Okay, I will. I have. You have. You've been adopted. What shows are you guys watching right now? I just restarted Mad Men.

I just watched Squid Game. The new Squid Game. I've never watched Squid Game. Squirger? Squirger. Huh? I've never watched Squid Game. The new Squid Game. I've never watched Squid Game. Squirker? I've never watched Squid Game. The first season was a little better. Well, it's all subtitles.

No, I translated it so it's like English, but the mouths are all off. Yeah, I don't like that. So it's kind of like screwed up, but it was good. It's very like traumatizing. I had nightmares. I woke myself up like screaming from a dream Oh my god, which is that happens once every like seven years, but we from from squid. So I was watching squid game It was home during Christmas and me and my dad watched we started squid and my grandpa was there too But I took melatonin and I went to bed and had like terrible nightmares that I got shot

Because it's such a traumatic show. You haven't seen it. Did you see season one? No. Don't watch it. Yeah, I don't think you would like it. I don't think you would like it. I don't think you'll like it.

Why do people die? Everyone. Everyone dies, only one person survives. Who survived? There's one guy now. And then in season two, he gets put it back. It's basically like a game and they kill everyone off. It's like a human. It's like a human hunger games, hunger games.

And they're just one person survives. And they're like all these like games, like red light, green light, right? Like you run at you run at green light and you stop at red light. But if you move at red light, they'll just shoot you. Why would they do that? TV. Some fucked up game. Yes, it's a fucked up game. I guess it happened. There's like a... Excuse me? I don't know if this is real, but I saw someone post this that back in the 80s or 70s in Japan or Korea, like all the very poor people, they would kind of put in internment camps.

This could be like totally false, but I saw it on TikTok. That would be insane. But it's loosely based on like a real story. That's so crazy. I mean, like I hate when I hear like of things like, like you told me about that person that like haunted the Baker in Alaska. Oh yeah.

Yeah. Well, that's because I studied serial killers. That's a fun fact. Lauren loves serial killers. I love, I like, I'm drunk. No, I love serial killers. Lauren loves serial killers. True crime, I think is amazing. I love watching.

Yeah, but I don't know. Mysteries. I don't like watching like doc. Like I like to watch. How do I describe it? Like I don't like watching documentaries, but I like to watch like factual like movies or like. Oh, those Netflix series where they like act out

what actually happened. Minehunter and like criminal minds. But in college I studied. I like that too. Serial killers. Yep, I think it's fascinating. And there was this serial killer in Alaska. This is crazy.

That he would, this is like turning into like a, into a murder mystery podcast, but this serial killer in Alaska, he was a baker. He was like one of the most like respected people in the town. Yeah. Prolific Baker had a family, two kids, and he would send his family off to his in-laws

for like a week. And in that week, he would, this was like when the Alaska pipeline was being built. So there's like a lot of like hookers or sex workers. I don't- Where'd the hookers come from? I wasn't expecting Alaska pipeline hookers. Yeah, they were just like, that was like during that time,

there was the Alaska hookers. Yeah, the Alaska pipeline hookers. Yeah. The were just like that was like during that time, you know, the Alaska hookers. Yeah. Yeah. He would kidnap one of them. He would torture them for a week. And then he got his pilot's license. And in Alaska, there's all this territory. He would fly them out and he would release them and be like, okay, you're free, run. And he would hunt them down. Then he would hunt them down. And he would bury them. And then when the Alaska pipeline was being excavated for like the road, they found all of the dead bodies. This is fascinating.

Yeah. He sounds like he's messed up. And one girl, one girl actually, yes, one girl actually got away and went to the police and they didn't believe her. They're like, no, like he's a great guy. And then they found the dead bodies and they were like, wait a minute.

You just made me think of that movie that came out with Nicolas Cage where he played the like screwed up murder in Alaska and it was. Oh yeah. Isn't that a, wait, that's what I said about it. Long legs. Wait, there is a movie about it, but I forget if it's with Nicolas Cage.

It was pretty good. Not incredible, but. There's, it has been a movie about it. Yeah, it might be long legs. I liked it, but it was but it's true Yeah, that's crazy. People are fucked up. You are so fucked up. All right, should we close it out? I feel like we hit a lot of good we hit everything and I think takeaways are we're going to see Nesferatu We're gonna go see baby girl, which I need to see that and what else?

We're gonna start drinking straight vodka more. Yeah. Because that got me lit. By the end of this episode, I was like, What's up Denny's? Have you ever seen that where the punk rock group that like goes and performs at Denny's and they're all lit and they're like, What the fuck is up Denny's? No, but that will be Hallie tonight. But for now, thank you all for tuning in again. Chris, thank you so much. Of course. Let's do it again. And follow Chris. What Chris,

what are your ads? Chris Hine Jr. on both. On both? All right. Hopefully TikTok will be around. Yeah, by the time this episode comes out. But for now, I love you all and see you next week. Thank you.