Extra Dirty with Hallie Batchelder - I shouldn't have posted that... *ft. Zarah*

Episode Date: August 20, 2026

Welcome back babes, I really love Zarah okay?! 🍸 Hallie and Zarah pour up a gorgous glass of wine to chat EVERYTHING: their 3-week Euro summer adventure, how Zarah transitioned from her corporate job to full-time influencing, and how she has a famous dog?! Hallie shares her opinion on being "crazy" towards men, Zarah shares the story of her first time ever going to a bar, and dating athletes. Hallie admits the 2 times she accidentally posted on her IG story (oops!!) and answers more questions by the girls, for the girls. Muah muah!! 💋 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

My ex used to pee in my drawers. That's insane. That's crazy. This is the craziest shit ever. Let's get Extra Dirty. Welcome back to Extra Dirty. I have my dear friend with me here today. Zara, hello.

Hi. Thanks for having me. I feel like we're going to be giggling this while. I know. Whenever you look at me, I just laugh. And I'm scared. Why are you scared? I don't know.

I need a drink. What are we pre-gaming today? I always ask. everyone on what we're pre-gaming. It could be literally anything. It could be bed. It could be... Bed.

I want to go out. I know. We're going out. That's the answer you should have. The pregame to going out. We have a lot to recap. Yeah, we have a lot to recap. I'm not going to lie.

When I first met you, I was unsure about you. I know this. Because you said it like 10 times. Like it would be somewhere and you would be like, it'd be the end of the night. And you'd be like, you know what? I actually really like you. And I'm like, all right. after the fifth time.

It becomes insulting. No, I was like, I get it now. Well, I have a short-term memory. Yeah, you don't remember anyone. I don't remember anyone, anything, any names. Yeah. I feel like you got close to my brothers before we got close. Yeah.

And then I had to get close to you. I'm just kidding. No, I remember on the 4th of July when you text me or like before the 4th of July, you text me and you were like, you want to come to Nantucket and do you want to go to the South of France? And I literally thought I was being pumped. I was like, did someone take? her phone like I was so confused but I was like yeah and my sister was like you have to go their

family's so fun no yeah and you came and I have what did you think in Antucket I loved it I loved it I don't want to go there how did how did you become close to Sammy and Chad I don't know because they loved you before I loved you well and I think skinny dip skinny dips yeah skinny dip brand trip and I kept saying you wanted to smash my brothers that was the first thing you said and I was like dude and you're like no yeah but I get it because I think everyone like like Sammy just moved to the city and everyone wanted to or wants to. Smash my brother? Yeah.

You know this. Yeah. These comments are crazy. But Sammy and I actually DM before he moved just like about like life and sports and stuff. You play sports? And then yeah. What sport? I played lacrosse.

In college? Yeah. For a year. And then I transferred. Oh, okay. But we would like DM and whatever. And then I was like, okay, maybe like I might like him. And then when I met him, I was like, oh, it's such friend vibes.

Yeah. And obviously I wouldn't want to do that to you. And I feel like I haven't... We weren't friends at the time, so like I wouldn't have cared. But we could have been sisters-in-law. I just didn't want it to be like awkward because not that you would care, but I would care. Like I'm really weird with guys. Well, with my brothers, I feel like everyone's trying to smash them at all times.

Yeah. I'm like kind of used to it. Like he's hooked up with girls we know. Yes. Well, Chad has. Chad hooks up on the brand trips. Chad is smashing on the brand trips. But he doesn't mean to.

What do you mean? He doesn't even. Like, they flock to him. Yeah, because he's the jester. Yeah. He like puts on a show and then like he like bags the girl. Yeah. And he pulls like the best girls.

You just like it with hot girls. It's crazy. Can you say that? Is he gonna be mad? No. What have we said? He said he gets with hot girls. He's gonna be pumped.

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, no. Your brothers, I feel like, because they just moved and started content and I was telling them like, was telling them like I kind of just started like not just started but like it's been like a year doing it full time yeah so like a lot of the things we talk about was work what were you doing before this sales at Microsoft you were doing sales at Microsoft and now you went to get dukey I got Duke three years ago and we moved to New York three years ago oh no two years ago and I was still working at Microsoft working the office but I was running like both of our accounts and then it just

started to make sense to do this because we were making money. Yeah. But I never knew I could make money on a dog. But yeah. Do you guys like more followers than I do? No, no he does. I thought he did it on Instagram. Maybe Instagram.

What does he have on Instagram? Like 500? Yeah, like I don't, that's a lot. That's like half a million followers. Yeah, it is a lot. It is a lot. It's crazy because obviously he's a dog. So, but he's the best.

Like, it's so easy. I just post his face. The fact that you can monetize that in such a crazy way. Yeah. You can make money doing anything nowadays. But yeah, once I found that out, I was like, whoa. Don't need to be at Microsoft anymore. But I liked Microsoft because I feel like for the influencing stuff was always fun for me.

And then when it became my job, it was like a lot of pressure. And like, I didn't really hang out with influencers before. Like, I would sometimes. Yeah. But then I was like, wait, do people hang out to like make videos together? Like, do you guys actually like each other? Like, I was just like learning everything. That's like not the type of influencer I am.

Yeah, I know. And now that we've spent the whole summer together pretty much, I feel like you can kind of gauge the type of influencer I am. And it's not someone that will be asking to collab post. Yeah. Always have their like, you know, phone out. I'm like not that type of influencer. Yeah. I don't think you are either.

No, I'm not. Like out to the extent that I know it at. Yeah. If you know what I mean. Well, I'll definitely be like, hey, let's do this trend because I need to post something. But it's different than like. Well, that's fine. You know what I mean?

Yeah, you're always fine with that. Even when you're vlogging, it's like quick and subtle and not like. You know, some people are like so not self-aware. I know. In the clout chasing. Yeah. In this industry. It's pretty crazy.

I feel like beyond beyond. Yeah. People only care about followers and, you know, climbing a ladder. Yeah. There were so many people that like didn't talk to me when I first moved here. And obviously I've grown a lot. But there were so many people that wouldn't talk to me now like are at my ass. Because they're like, oh, you know.

Other influences are friends from like influence. Well, both. but like influencers too. But yeah, it's kind of crazy, honestly. And I feel like you can tell that we're not, like we're not saying everything we're doing, you know? Like the crazy shit. I probably legally can't say everything.

Actually legally. No, legally. We cannot say everything we're doing. I don't want to get in trouble. But I've never signed an NDA though. You've never signed an NDA? I probably should more than you should. Yeah.

Well, people make me sign NDAs because I have a podcast. Yeah, that makes sense. But like I don't get on here and talk about who I've smashed. Yeah. Also, my new Iick is people ask me to sign an NDA before I smash. Yeah. I imagine how much that kills the mood. Yeah, I mean, obviously.

You have to download a docu sign and stuff. Imagine you're like looking at the guy and you have to plug your name into a docus sign. Yeah. That's happened to me a handful of times. I would say absolutely not. No. Let's continue. It kills the vibe.

Or I would just probably sign it. No, you sign it. Yeah. But like, what do you mean sign an NDA? Like, I should make you sign an NDA. That's what I say. I'm like, honestly, it's offensive that they think that you care enough to talk about them. I also don't do that.

Like, I'm not, like, no one would hook up with me if I did that. Yeah. Like, sometimes do I, like, make it, like, a little bit obvious. Traceable. Like, you can connect the dots two plus two equals four. Like, with a music video. Like, I can talk about it. I don't care about that.

Yeah. But, like, I never smashed. It's crazy. My roommate did. Yeah, that's crazy. Have you seen this music video? No. I need to watch it.

You're going to fucking. Wait, are you both in it? Yes. Oh my God. I was obsessed with him. He was like the hottest thing ever. He was... He still is hot.

He is very attractive. But just like that time of my life, like we were 19, 18, 19, like flying New York to see him in like in a music video on Nantucket. It was just like a whirlwind of like what the fuck is going on. Yeah. Also another ick that I have guys getting security guards that don't need. Oh my God. Yeah. I mean, there's just guys that hire security guards or the brand hires the security guard

and they pretend it's their security guard and walk with them everywhere. And it's actually not their security guard. And it's really, really icky. I just don't get like guys that need security guards from what, like one girl fan. What? Yeah. I mean, I get it if you're like the president. Like, duh.

Or I get it if you're like, like Tate McCray, like a pop star singer. Yeah. But like someone that's like on a, you know, show. Like a show or something like that. Like I don't understand the. Yeah. Unless they just like just one love island or something like that. Maybe.

Yeah. But even then, like I feel like you still don't. Like it's kind of an ick. Yeah. It's like protect yourself. Like you're a guy. Yeah. Like fight.

Is someone attacking you? No. But also I feel like it's just such a like want to act like there's still relevant thing. That's the thing about this industry. There's so many egos against each other. And like people move by their ego and you can't act that way. It's actually just annoying.

Do you think I have a big ego? No, I don't. I feel like you're really smart with what you do and who you hang out with. You think I'm smart with who I hang out with? Yeah. Like I'm calculated. No. I feel like you have been in the game for a while.

So like you're not just, you don't like let everyone in. You know what I mean? I don't let most people in because most people are fucking jesters and weird. Yeah. Most people are just and racking. No, I agree. But I'm kind of the same way. But there's a lot of thirsty fucking bitches out there running among.

And like if I really wanted to, I could let loose and spill like a lot of tea on those bitches. No, same. And I also think too, like you have to find people in this industry like or just friends in general in your 20s that are like working hard as well, rooting for you, supporting you. like not secretly against you. Yeah. Because it's easy to get jealous and be like, why wasn't I invited to that? Why was not invited to that? And like you can't have friends with people.

You can be friends with people like that. It's not going to work. How's your summer been boy wise? Boring. I feel like it hasn't been boring at all. But with her in this whole summer. He's lying. I just have a very specific type that is running around New York City in the summer.

But nothing like serious. Do you find your type more in the city or do you find it more in like traveling? I never traveling. Never. Because you never were on like a brand trip and like I don't want an influencer dude. You know I smash on these brands. Yeah. No.

She's like, oh, so you think this guy's cute? I'm like, I know you do. But like. I've kind of been like letting loose this summer. You should though. I have too. I know. But now I have like scleries and like I think I want to like eat in the fall.

You should. But you don't do anything bad. Like you have fun and you don't get like attached. You're not annoying. You're not like delusional. Like we're going to get married. No, I don't get like that with guys. I'm not like a boy crazy girl.

Yeah, you're not male-centered. Like, I do like to hook up with people. Well, I think when you have your eyes set on someone, you want that person. Like, now. Yeah. But you're not like- Made them bad. Yeah.

But you're not like going somewhere to see that guy. Like me, I'll be like, can we go here because I want to see it? And you're like, you know what I mean? Like, you don't think that way. I just feel like I haven't been in that situation yet. The thing is I like guys that aren't in to me back and then I get sad and depressed. And then I'm like, peace. And then I'm like, peace.

Yeah, same. What was last few you had a crush? Honestly, like, I don't know. I get these crushes and I think I like them a lot. And then I'm like, oh.

And then they suck. Yeah, I'm really picky. You have the worst type ever. I know, I do. Dargo's for, like, strictly athletes. I can say that. There's a lot of sports. Yeah, there's a lot of sports.

But, like, the thing is with athletes. I know. They just have too many options. Yeah, but they're kind of mean. I like that. They're like not like flirty mean. They're like, mean. I know.

I just want like a best friend though. Like, and I like how like they like to go out and like they're not like, I don't know, like up my ass and like, you know what I mean? Like I just don't want. I want a guy who's like me, but a guy version. Yeah. Like likes to party, likes to go out. Isn't to like be loving, but like don't be too nice. I don't know.

I don't like that. Do you like a guy that like puts you in your place? Like, what kind of. What kind of attachment style do you have? What does that mean? You definitely don't know. What does that mean? Yeah.

I'm going to redo these attachment styles. I'm going to guess which one you have. So they're secure. So you're comfortable with intimacy and independence. You generally trust someone that likes you without needing constant proof or validation. So like you're a healthy person. No. Then there's anxious.

So you crave closeness and reassurance but are sensitive to signs of rejection. A delayed text, change in tone or something pulling back. back or someone pulling back and trigger overthinking, checking, chasing, or wondering. I don't think I'm that one. Maybe a little bit. I think when I like someone, I do get a little bit like I want to be talking to you, but I also don't like care. That's how I am.

Like I'll psychoanalyze every text. Oh, I don't. So there's avoidant, which is like dismissive. Yeah. Values independent strongly and can feel uncomfortable when relationships become too emotionally close, may pull away, minimize feelings, avoid vulnerability, or loose interest when someone becomes very available. I feel like that's more you.

Yeah, I think that's me. Fearful avoidant, which is like disorganized. Wants an intimacy, but is also afraid of it. Often has a push-pull pattern. Come closer. This feels scary. Go away. Wait, why are you leaving?

Maybe that is me. Yeah, I feel like you're either one of those too. Yeah. Because I feel like I don't want any guy to know I like them until I know they like me. And like even when I know they like me, I still don't want them to know. Like, I have like, a hard shell. I feel like that's fearful avoidant. Yeah.

How do I change that? I don't know. I'm trying to change my. You're normaler than me. I don't think. I think anxious is the worst one. You spiral over everything. But I don't think you do.

Like I feel like you don't. I mean, you definitely ask about it. But I don't think you actually genuinely care. Like a guy will never know if I'm actually spiraling. Yeah. I just ask my friends and be like, what do you think this text means? And I'll be like, hey, with like two eyes. I'm like, what do you think that means?

Do you ever screenshot things in a chat, she'd be a teen or like. what do you think this means? I'll ask like if I fucked up. I'll ask chat GBT if I fucked up. But like, what was the last time you sent a text and asked if you fucked up? Oh my God. When I'm drunk,

I'll probably do one right now. Like I will text whatever. And then the next day I'm like, but usually I don't regret it. No, I don't regret drunk. I think drunk texting is okay. Yeah, it's actually flattering.

Like boys like crazy. I say that. Boys love crazy. Also like, we're not crazy enough. I don't think we're crazy enough. Like we could be showing up at their door. Which I would. I've done that.

I haven't done that yet. Actually, I ran to a guy's house. To my ex, I would do that. Yeah. If we'd fight out to show up and, like, bang down the door and his roommates be like, How is here again? Oh, my God. I can't imagine you with a boyfriend.

I know. I'm like, I think I'm, like, ready for one, though. No, I'm not. Take that back. Don't do that. No. We're having so much fun. I mean, I want a boy.

Like, I don't know. When I have a boyfriend, though, I don't like to do things. Like, I'm very homebody. So I think the reason I don't have one right now is so I can do all these opportunities and like learn independence so that when one comes, I still will do things. You know what I'm saying? And like not like just follow them around. Yeah. You're just becoming secure with yourself.

Yeah. So it doesn't supplement your needs. It just adds to the life. Adds to life. They should be a cherry on top, not half the pie. Yeah. Or what is it there? Half the pie.

Half the pie. I like actual questions for you. What? Wait, I want to ask you at FSU. FSU. Oh, ask. What was that like? When I quit lacrosse at Virginia Tech, I wanted to go to a big party school.

And FSU was like, I always wanted to go to a big, like, party football school and break away from Maryland. Even though I love Maryland and like I'm friends with all my friends still, but it was insane. Like I had never been to a bar before. So like the first night I went out, I blacked out before we even got to the bar. Because I was at the pregame taking shots because usually we would just do like house parties or apart like, you know. And then we got to the bar and I was like, oh my God, we're still drinking and I was so blacked out. And then the next day, my sorority president was like, we thought you were going to be president. Like, we did not expect this from you.

Like you're from Maryland. We didn't see this coming. Oh, they thought you were going to be like good issues. Yeah. Which I definitely am like on pen and paper, but I also like to have fun. On pen and paper. Like I got good grades. I got the good job.

It's good at sports. But I like to party too. But I learned really quickly, like, my limits. Yeah, I feel like I've never seen you really plastered. No. Now I'm like, I mean, obviously, I'm like an adult. Do you have like a crazy drunk story from college? Like every single night was insane.

We went out every single night. That's why I don't really care to like do the clubs here because FSU was like very clubby. I heard it's like a fucking. It's nuts. You rip it. You rip it like 24 seven. It's nuts. But yeah, I loved it.

Yeah, I didn't go to a college like that. I also wasn't allowed in a sorority. Why? The sorority I wanted to get into, I made out with like the first week, whatever, rush week. Not rush week, but like. Syllabus week. Syllabus week. I made out.

Why do I know that? I don't know. That was really insane. I made out with the ex-situationship of like the sorority I wanted to get into. And I was banned. Did you know? I didn't know. It was the first week of college.

I didn't know anyone's. But they just hated freshmen. I know. That happened at my sorority a lot. And I'm really blessed that I didn't know a single person at office you because then I saw it. Like if exactly what you said, like if you had made out with someone's friend, like you were blacklisted. Yeah. Which is so petty.

And like, it's just like an amateur mindset. Yeah. I never agreed with that ever. I always thought that was so whack. Because also like you can change too. Not that you like that isn't even bad. Well, it was like, seven. I didn't know shit. I also didn't know you had to go to class. So I like just wouldn't go to class.

I didn't think that was a thing. I thought it was like the movies. Like you just didn't have to go. Did you have like a schedule? Yeah. I thought you could just skip. I even knew that you had to go to class. That's when you know. I was a jester. Wow. I was also going through a breakup. Oh, when you got to college. Yeah. My ex-boyfriend, Chi-Jyjohn me like the first week of high school. I mean of college. Yeah. Did he go? go to another college? Yeah. Was he like a dick? Yeah, he was a dick.

How long did you date him for? Three years. Damn. Yeah, it was like my first boyfriend. My first love. That's so fucked up. It was with someone I knew. It got back to me really quickly.

Yeah. And it kind of like changed my brain chemistry on relationships and dating. I was a goody too. She was before this guy. Like my first blow job, hand job. Like everything was with this guy. Yeah. And then he would cheat on me left or right.

And like when I was like in rehab. So fucked up. Like I would find out he was like cheating on me. He was like my friend's sisters. That's really evil. Yeah. And that's evil of them too. It was some fuck ash shit, but we're a kid.

So like I don't really like. No, I get it. I feel like I always look at that as like the guy is so insecure and like intimidated by you. Yeah. And that's like their way of getting power. You know, which is so fucked up. But like it's true. It's just like an immature mindset on.

Yeah. Especially when you're on, he was on like the hockey team. And I feel like the older boys were just rallying them up and nonstop and just like kind of like being a bad influence. But I hate that. I just never trusted men. Yeah. That's so unattractive to me. Like the one thing for me is loyalty. Is that like your one thing you look for in a guy? It's the one thing I care about. Like if you, you can like say whatever, do whatever. But like if you're not loyal, even as a friend, like, then I, that's where I draw the line.

Yeah. Like, I hate that. And that's also what will, like, set me off. I just stayed up pages. We literally went for a few hours. And then we went back to pages. And, like, honestly, she, like, healed me. Dude, I would literally die to hold a chicken.

No, she's like, I love Sarah. She has, like, my dream life. I feel like her and I are very similar in a way. She's very simple. But she's, like, one of the smartest people have ever met my own hair. She is so smart. She's a badass. And you want to know why?

Because she's an athlete. Athletes just, like, I feel like athletes take over. Look at. Alex Cooper. When you were asking me about her, I'm like, she was an athlete. The way Paige and Alex talk about business, I've noticed that once they get in a business track line and they're on a subject that they're passionate about when it's related to business or really anything, they will snowball and you can see them creating like more ideas in real time.

Yeah. I'm like, how do you think like that? Yeah. Like just creative too. Very creative minded people. Yeah. I was talking to Lauren Fishpene about this, though. I feel like all of your friend group, like you have a lot of boss ass bitches.

You all do your own thing, you know, but like... We're all on our own lanes. Yeah, and that's a good thing. Liv also is very hardworking. Hi, Dukey. You're just starting this show. He's like obsessed with attention. Does my brother's like him?

Yeah, when Chad came over to my apartment. I'll never forget this. He was like, your stepdaddy's here. Like ran up to Duke and was like, I'm your stepdaddy. He started barking at him and Duke was like so confused. Because Duke never really meets guys anyways, let alone gets barked at. I feel like Duke meets a lot of guys. Duke does see a lot of shit.

Duke has seen the most. Yeah. No, this past weekend, like whenever I'll hang out with the guy. I can't believe you'll hard that guy over. I'm not even going to say who it is. You have to run them by me at this point. I know. Well, he asked me about you.

He was like, yeah. I've like seen her clips or whatever. I'm like, yeah, you follow her. Have you guys like banged? No, we've damned a little. No, you said no. We've never banged. He has like zero risk and it drives me nuts.

Yeah. Like he has no risk. He's just like, I don't know. I don't know. We've only hung out drunk, but the other night we hung out sober and I didn't like it. How did that even transpire? Well, I guess not night, but like the next day because that night I was like, I don't count that.

I'm celibate, not doing anything. So then he didn't hook up. No, then he stayed in the morning. And I was like, fuck, like, he's not going to leave. leave until this goes down. So you're like, we must smash. I was like, whatever. We already have. And it was like, fine. It sounds riveting. Also, he asked me, this is actually fucked up and I texted Halley like three times about it. Yeah. He was like, am I going to get chlamydia now? I'm like, you should be asking him that. Yeah, I should be asking you that. I've never had that.

Guys, I ask me that all the time, though. After they make me sign an NBA, they go, I hope you're clean. And I'm like, that is so rude. So rude. Like don't hook up with me if you think I'm dirty And I know that you don't think that So like shut up It's just like I don't know I feel like especially with athletes They're just like say whatever

Like get tested after practice I don't want to tell you Like they don't believe you anyways Get tested after practice Like shut up That is so rude Imagine just making sweet passion up to someone And they're like

You better not have a dirty snatch Yeah like then don't bang me then Don't fuck me Yeah. I get asking like the birth control question before that's a different question. But like after being like am I going to get a disease? It's just rude. Yeah. Am I going to give you something that you shouldn't have? Yeah. But also like I get it because I just got back and like my sheets were wet because I just washed them and my room was a disaster.

And I was like, okay, maybe I was asking what wet sheets. Oh my God. It was so damp. So I went downstairs and grabbed two lollab blankets. I was like, we're just going to have to sleep on this and apologize. So like maybe. because my room was dirty, he asked me that. No, he probably just thinks you smash other people in his sport. Oh, yeah. Does he know about... No.

Your love for the sport? No. You're like a mascot. My love for the sport. A mascot is crazy. I'm a mascot for male influencers. Yeah, I don't know what's up with that. Me?

Yeah. You, like, need a businessman. Like, you're very business-oriented. You don't need, like, a little influencer who's, like, Not little. But like, you don't need an influencer who's, like, propping up his phone. Like, I feel like you won't respect someone like that. Not respect, but like, it's just not going to work because they're going to compete with you and they're not going to win.

Yeah. I also don't think two people should like want the spotlight. No. One should have the spotlight. The other should not have the spotlight. Yeah. You can have two people in the spotlight. No.

You can't. Not the spotlight, but like people that are like spotlight driven. Like. And all these guys are. We're camera forward people. Yeah. Obviously. There's three set up right here.

Yeah. But like I get with a lot of influencers. Yeah, my first influencer was interesting. Was that your ex-boyfriend? No. I thought he was an influencer. No, he's not an influencer. And actually, that was my last boyfriend.

Or no, I had a boyfriend for two minutes two years ago. But hated on me for TikToking. And when I got Duke, he started to grow. And I like learned the system. And I would be like, I feel like I should get some of the money because I'm like helping you raise him. I'm like, you're out every night. You're not helping raise him at all.

You haven't posted one TikTok. And then when we broke up, he came up with this like influencer agency and was like DMing my friends to join it. I think Chad is signed to them. And Chad signed to him. And my friends, like it was a known thing. Like all of my friends were like, this is fucking crazy because he shitted on you. And you like, I didn't make a TikTok for so long because I was so scared.

Like he was like that is like you should not do that. Yeah. And then we're on good terms now, but we were just young and immature. But it's just like it's so funny because he like literally would make me feel so insecure. My first ex-boyfriend felt the same way, but like this is like OG Instagram. He'd be like you just want attention. Like posting like normal like Instagrams. Like no, I don't want attention.

I just like to post. Yeah, that was a thing too with him. Like he was like, you're posting in a bikini. I'm like, all right. Yeah, like, all right. Yeah, like, male seeking like attention. I was like, no. And like, I definitely like male attention, but I'm not, like, posting for that.

You don't, you're not male centered, I wouldn't say. No, I mean, I definitely, when I like someone, I really like them, but I'm not like, try, like, I don't think crazily. Like, that doesn't, like, come to mind. Yeah. Like, I don't have that much brain power to think about like that. Well, don't sell yourself short. No, but, like, you know what I mean?

I'm not, like, sitting in my room like, I'm going to do this and this in this. Being, like, calculated about it. Yeah. No, I get that too. So that annoys me when people say that. because I'm like, actually, no. I feel like I'm very like, I'll just do it to your face and be crazy. You say the craziest shit to guys. It's like the funnest thing I've ever seen in there.

I do. It's really bad. I've actually gotten a lot better at that though. Really? I would like to see what used to look like. I used to like. I used to like. Because, like, I definitely have a temper.

But it's always related to loyalty. Like, back to that. Like, I just get so mad when someone's fake and plays in my face. Or does that to my friends. Like, I think it's like the rudest thing ever. Be a player? Trey or like talk shit about your friend. Like anyone in my life, if you're doing something to me, I'm going to say it to your face.

I'm not going to say it behind your back. Are you confrontational? It depends on the matter. I definitely say how I feel. I'd rather just say it to your face than like not say it at all. Remember when I sent you an NDA to sign because you won't shut the fuck up? Yeah. You actually sent me one too.

No, I was dead ass. And I was like, I laughed at it. And I was like, okay. sign it later, like, I'm doing something. And you're like, I'm just kidding. I'm not in position to make people sign NDAs, which is why when gestures make me sign them, I'm like, yeah, I mean, I feel like you kind of are, but like not a friend, but like an employee.

Like if you get an assistant or something. I get why people want to make me sign them. Yeah, the podcast and like people don't want their share it out. I don't, though. I think it's really rude. Like, I have a TikTok. Like, I could go on and share all your biz. Like, you know.

So no one's ever made you sign one. Never. I've ever gotten that. Yeah. Okay, enough about the NDA speak. Yeah, we've talked about that too much. I'm going to ask you questions, questions for the girls, but like with you. Okay.

What is the one non-negotiable step in your daily routine? Adderall. I'm just kidding. You're not kidding. No, I'm not kidding. But I think going outside and walking, that sounds so lame, but like it really does wonders. Like some vitamin D? Yeah.

Like just being outside and, like, being. Do you make your bed in the morning? Yeah. You think that's a non-negotiable step? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You probably thought you'd want the bed. No, it was very obvious. Like, everything was everywhere. But yeah, I make my bed. I'm very like routine-oriented, shockingly. And like, even though I'm very type B, I'm very like. OCD? No.

I'm OCD, but like an unorganized OCD. Yeah. I'm a control freak. I'm like very routine-oriented. Like I like to wake up, make my bed, skincare, work out, be outside. But I also can like turn that off. Yeah. I hate rotting.

I like suck at rotting. I always have to be doing something. Really? Yeah. I'm like a professional rotter. That's why I don't really like scroll. That's why I have to comment because I'm like when I'm on TikTok, I need to like comment and engage because I don't scroll.

One thing about Zara is she's in every single comment section I've ever seen in my whole entire life. I am. It's not even like comment section. of our friends or below influencers, it will be like... The randomest, like, viral, like... It'll be like Alaska, grizzly bear on the loose. Please alert the other grisly bears.

And if I'll be like, thank you for sharing this. Oh, that's so cute. Yeah, no, I'm definitely a commenter. Yeah. I support. It's beyond. What is the best sweet treat? Adderall.

Adderall? No. Rose. No. I don't know. I don't have a sweet tooth. Yeah, I do. But what is it?

It's like chocolate chip cookies. It's your answer then. Yeah. There you go. Do you ever pitch ideas or make the plans for a date or should the man always take control of planning? You can go on dates? I've been on one date this year. Yeah, no, I haven't.

I don't go on dates. I've been on two random dates in my life. I'm like scared of it. I'm not a dater either. I don't want to. waste my time with a man that I don't know yeah that's that's exactly how I think I don't want to waste my time talking no me either to a man yeah in hearing hearing about them no I'd rather like all go out and then I'll see if I actually like you but like sit at a dinner and I don't know if I like you that's like a

waste of my time do you want nine stands yeah but that's very rare like very rare yeah if I like someone, like the only people I'm hooking up with is if I like would date you. Yeah. You know? Like I don't just hook up just to hook up. Like I don't need to be doing that. I don't know if I believe you. In the fall, I'm not going to do any like random hookups.

I feel like random hookups do nothing bad. Like you have like, just do what you want to do. That's how I look at it. Like I don't think it's bad. I mean, if you're banging a new guy every night, okay, relax. But like you're not at all. And I feel like people might. think you do that and you like don't i actually don't you actually don't can you attest to how i

act no tell everyone how i act on a night out no i was actually very shocked when i met you because one and i've heard this before i walked into i remember hally kate had like an engagement party yeah and i walked in and you came in like shortly after i didn't even know you were there yeah and in my head when hally's at a party from what i've seen i'm like oh she's going to be so loud just going to be everywhere like you're just chilling, just talking, like, chilling. Like, just a vibe. And, like, also with guys, I'll be like, oh, he's so hot. Like, whatever, you're like, eh.

Like, you get approached. You don't go an approach. That you're not supposed to approach. Yeah, but like. We attract, we don't chase. Yeah. And also, like, you, when we first started hanging out, I was like, please stay out. And you went home early, like, every single night.

I know. I've gotten better about that. Yeah. But I think, like. But you rarely, have you ever seen me make out with someone? No. Or go home with someone? Have I?

I don't know. I feel like you should. I've seen you make out with, what's his name? When I was there. Oh, yeah. That was bad. That wasn't bad. Well, I didn't know that you guys had canoodle beforehand.

I didn't tell you. But I just watched it and I was like, fuck you. To him, not to you. Well, I was so drunk. I was between the two of that. I knew that. Yeah, I know. And they're fucking crazy.

Did you see what was happening? Yeah. did. I was between two guys and I was just making out on both of them. They were like past me back and forth like a blunt and I was like a blunt and I was so drunk and I was so drunk I was not clocking what was going on. No I know and that's why I was like also I didn't say anything to you before but you were not happy. Yeah you didn't tell me. I wasn't happy with him more so like I was like I don't even know which him you're talking about because you've just your max for both of them. I know but yeah I also feel like I don't know you don't

you're not like as like crazy as people make you out to be. Or like as like disgust. Like people act like you're like out like just doing all these things. You don't do that ever. No, I kind of keep to myself, my friends. Yeah. And you're very normal and tame. Thank you.

I don't get that often. You are. I don't like people much either. Like guys, I'm not like a guy forward guy. Girl. Girl. I'm not a guy forward guy. Like tipsy.

I know. Same. I drink the whole thing. I also feel like. people don't realize and I was texting you about this, but you like, whenever I compliment Hallie, she just doesn't answer. But she is so, you're so smart at what you do. Like when we're in Nantucket and like something's going on, I'm sitting there geeking out in the corner and you're recording it. Like you're, you know what you're doing. Well, I know exactly what's going to pop. Yeah.

And like that is a skill. Well, this summer I like wanted to like spam. No, you are so good at what you do. Like you know what's going to go viral. I've learned a lot from me honestly. Like just, just like being in the moment, recording the moment. Because I feel like before I was like, I need to like... Curate it? Yeah. And obviously sometimes you have to, but like... You do. Also, you don't.

You know? But like when I do these big weekends where Chad's going to be there, you know, Graden or you or like, you know, there's a bunch of different characters involved. Yeah. I found that if you just spam posts, even if it's a fucking random-ass moment in time, it'll do well. It just feels like a show almost. Yeah. People are a part of like a friend group, a part of like, a team.

TV show. Yeah. And the things that you wouldn't think that would, like, do well, do the best. Yeah. You know what I mean? I miss Graydon. I do too. People think we're fighting because I haven't seen him in a minute.

Really? Yeah. You guys have been busy, though. I accidentally had a European summer. Yeah. He's the best. I love him. No, Graydon hits the best.

Like, I feel like he and I get each other in a way. You guys are just silent, but, like, really funny. Yeah. He's not that silent. You're not either. No. There's a different word I'm looking for. Silent.

Not silent. I feel like I don't know silent. No, you don't know silent. No. Can dry texting work if they're great in person? I'm a horrible text. Yeah. No, our text thread is like me texting you 5,000 times in a row.

What's the craziest rumor ever spread about you? There's so many. There's one that I beat my ex-boyfriend up and went to jail. That's a fucking crazy one. I feel like that's Googlable. Yeah. Yeah, because I got an MIP when I was in high school for drinking inside of a house that was a model home. Like, someone had a party.

And whatever. I never got arrested. But now it's like a huge thing that like I beat up my ex-boyfriend. That's why I like had that. Yeah. And then obviously the peeing in the drawer thing is annoying. The peeing in the drawer thing. That's one I can think of.

That's so annoying. How would you even have crossed paths with Alex? When we're in college. Like, Miami would visit FSU. But I never went to Miami. So there was a rumor that you peed in her drawer? Yes. So I guess she went on, I don't, she said on a podcast,

how one of her friends or someone she knew did this. And some random person, I want to guess they're probably from Maryland. I probably knew them in middle school, whatever, commented, it was Zara Kelleher. It is brought up every year. And it's so annoying. And I feel like, I think she even has said, like it wasn't me, but people just still say it was because they want to be in college. Yeah, when she, I was a junior, she was a sophomore.

So like TikTok was like kind of a thing, but like not really. Yeah. That's crazy. Crazy. I feel like that was one of the first things I heard about you and I totally forgot about that. Yeah. It's like everyone asked me about it. Because I can't picture you doing that.

I like, I just, that is so weird. Like I would pee like outside of a party if I had to go, but I'm not going to go pee in like a girl I hate drawer like that's fucked up and weird a girl that you hate well like that's what she said she said that it was like the person hated her so like they went peed in her drawer which is fucking crazy some fuck-ass shit yeah if they were just drunk my ex used to pee in my drawers that's insane that's fucking crazy this is the craziest shit ever my ex-boyfriend in high school he would get so black out drunk that he would he was like a peer in the middle of the night He would get up and just, like, pee in places.

So once I brought him to Aruba on vacation, and we were sleeping out, like, pull out couch and, like, the living room, like, in this fucking jinky-ass hotel room. And my dad wasn't there yet. He was there for the first few days, my ex-boyfriend. And we woke up, he woke up with me all night. This is after a night of, like, fucking drinking heavily. Yeah. He woke him in the all night, goes into my mom's room. Thinks it's, my mom wakes up.

And she goes, I remember just, like, waking up being like, he's going to climb into bed with me. Like she was freaking out, being like, he's so drunk, he doesn't worry as. He was looking for the bathroom, obviously. So he goes into the bathroom. Thinks it's the toilet, but it's all of her makeup and skincare products. Oh my God. Whips his dick out. And she's just like awake, like, being like, I can't, he's sleepwalking.

He's like, I can interrupt whatever he's doing. He pees everywhere. Like, all of her makeup, like, it's all ruined and destroyed. Your mom's like the angel. She's like, fuck, he's going to climb into bed with me, think it's Hallie and try to see. for humping me. Did he?

No. Yeah. But like... But you just peed on all over makeup. That's... That is such an ick to me. Oh my God. I was such an ick.

Like, get your shit together. In that same trip, though, we were 16 years old. But still. My mom walked in on us having sex. Not only sex. I was on my period. We're having anal. My mom walked in because the TV was on.

And we're in like the pullout couch in the living room. My mom walks in. I wish I had anal in the living room. It was a plow couch. It was a bed. was it daytime why would have anal during the day why would you have it in the living room

that was where our bed was okay I'm catching on but still you don't plow couch yeah I do but still you're in a connected thing yeah like maybe like have like do a little hand job but full on anal is insane that's crazy she walked in she probably was scarred for life

yeah we had to like apologize the next day your poor mom I love your mom I love your She was like, I'm not mad guys, but like I walked into something a mother should never ever see. That's fucking crazy. She's probably seen chat do worse, though. I just can't believe it was anal. That is, that's insane. Anything else besides that.

It could have been literally anything else besides that. I remember in high school, like having anal was like cool. No, like that's, I was in high school. Yeah. I actually don't mind. Like with your boyfriend. I, oh my God, it feels like your ass is like glass. That's shattering.

No, anal's good. Oh. But I'm like one of those. I don't know. I don't mind it. Because I was having it. My ex was obsessed with it. That's weird.

I feel like if a guy is obsessed with anal. We had to start asking questions. Yeah. That's really weird. It's like kind of fun though. Never experienced that. Oh. Well, anyways.

Have you ever accidentally posted something on your story or a page? I did this recently. Yeah, this was crazy. I'm not going to say details, but like we're leaving a trip and first of all, she was smashed for this flight. Me and Chad had the same time. So we were like the night before we're like, we're going to leave together. Hallie hears me waking up and she's like, wait, I'm coming with you. I'm like, your flight's not for 10 hours, but okay, sure, come to come to the airport.

And she doesn't know what airline she's on. So I look up the flight. flight and I ended up being right. But I look up the flight and I'm like, okay, this is your airline and whatever. Long story short, she posts on her story like, I hate. No, they're going to know who it's about. No, they're not. She basically posted something that was like, she was hammered.

I posted something about like who I don't fuck with. Like I posted a list of people who I don't fuck with. Yes. Feeling people on my shit list. And I listed a bunch of like names and people in situations that was. completely meant for my private story. Yeah. It was up for 22 minutes.

And but also we were in another place, like another time zone. Yeah. And so I was lucky for that. Thank God because it was the morning and I saw it. Yeah. And I sent it to her right away. I was like, this is on your real. I obviously knew you didn't mean to do that.

It was really bad. It was crazy. And then you were anxious about it, but nothing happened. No one saw it. That was crazy. That was really insane. Yeah. But I've also posted a bunch of shit.

I posted on my story. This fall, I host a lot of after parties. You can probably know where I'm going with this one. I posted something on my story, and there was some like paraphernalia in the back. What fuck is paraphernalia? There was some like paranormal shit? What are you talking about? There are ghosts in the back?

There were some paraphernalia. What is paraphernalia? Like bad stuff. Like rolled up bills. It wasn't yours. It wasn't mine. Yeah. It wasn't yours.

That's crazy. But I posted, so I posted on my story in all over my tables, like a bunch of like drug paraphernalia. That wasn't mine. I was hosting the afters. People were like letting loose at the afters. Like what happens to the afters? The phone should have been away. Like, I get it.

Like that was on me. Yeah. But I ended up hooking up with this guy after the afters like all night, like a full on full-blown. Oh, so you didn't see it. So I woke up the next day at 4 p.m. I had missed calls for my publicist. I missed calls for my team. Being like, you have to take down your story.

My story was up for probably 17 hours. And it was just rolled up bills and blow everywhere. And a naked man dancing on my story with flowers in front of his crotch. I do remember this. I do remember this. It was so bad. I thought it was hilarious. And I don't care that it was up, honestly.

Like, whatever. Like, it's the actors. Like, I don't, you know. Just because, like, drugs exist. It doesn't mean you need to do that. Like, my sisters are in high school. They know what's going on. But it doesn't mean that you're doing it.

No, but it was definitely out. Yeah. Obviously, you shouldn't post that, but it's not the worst thing in the world. I didn't know it was posting for 24 hours. That's crazy. I would freak out. Because I was smashing. But yeah, that was probably the worst thing I ever posted on an accident.

How about you? I think that guy's bad news. That guy is the one I'm talking about? Why? I feel like he likes people for the wrong reasons. I'll go with that. I think most male influencers do, though. Yeah, I feel like you smashes people with the wrong reasons, but...

Yeah. I, like, really liked him at home point, which is crazy to even think about, because, like, I could never see myself. I cannot see you with him, dude. I never thought I would, like, take him seriously. He's, like, not even that hot, but, like, at the time, I was, like... I don't like him for you. He's, like, a big dick, and he's good and bad.

Ew. He's, like, really hairy and gross and he doesn't wear deodorant. He doesn't wear deodorant? He doesn't wear deodorant? I don't know if he does, but he doesn't smell like it. I don't know. Yeah, I feel like he's like not hygienic. No.

He's like a dirty rap bastard. I have a question for you. Okay. What's your, like, goals for your brothers? Like, because they're obviously, like, blowing up and stuff. Like, what do you see for them? You know, it's interesting because now I'm getting a lot of, like, brand deal offers that, like, have to include them. Like, they're definitely, like, having their own moment right now.

Yeah. But, like, their success is my success. I want everyone in my... bloodline my family to be successful and like they deserve it yeah chat is a fucking character he should have started this a long time ago totally um he's meant to be in this industry i think sammy on the same realm is a bit a different sort of creator i feel like he's very disciplined and crushing it in his own way no they're the best but i think the next step is like i want us to like do something bigger together i think like in the reality tv sphere maybe there could be some room for us

Yeah. There's no like, they're so interesting. We're interesting together. Yeah. And with my dad included and you get the other gestures included. Yeah. I think there could be selling really funny there. Yeah. And entertaining.

No, you guys need. Because we're a show. Like, we are the most, like, we can't be media trained. No. You guys are real. Like, everything is in real time. That is what makes us special. Yeah.

Is we lack the ability to get media trained. Yeah. I remember for me specifically, I got a publicist probably a year ago. I don't have them. They're on pause right now. But like I had them for a minute. They're on pause.

What is that mean? I didn't need a publicist during, they're expensive as fuck. I didn't need a publicist during the summer. Yeah. Like I'm not promoting shit. I'm not trying to do Fashion Week. Yeah, I get that.

I might take them on for Fashion Week. But like, I remember they told me they were like, you need to get media change. This class is probably $1,200 bucks for an hour and a half to get media change. I took the class. You did it?

I did it. And they basically tell you. I'm shocked you did that. Yeah. Well, I listen. Like, people give me a suggestion about my business. Like, I will do it. Yeah.

And if they think it's a good idea, I'll do it. I listen to people. Yeah. I remember I did it. And they kind of basically tell you to answer questions and how to answer questions thoughtfully. And to basically like re-gurgitate questions and to like kind of like make it to make it longer and then dive. divert it and like make it your own and like yeah it's actually the thing the thought that goes into being media trained is insane two weeks later i got canceled for the most unmedia trained shit you could possibly think of and it was probably less than 14 days after my media training class in my publicist i remember so clearly she was like

did we learn literally anything in the class i was like fog but like i if i feel away away away or have a thought, I can't help myself but to say it out loud. Well, also, you don't, you didn't mean it in a way that was malicious. No, I put my foot in my, I totally put my foot in my mouth. Yeah. If I could go back, I would take it back. Yeah. But I didn't mean it in the way it came out.

Yes. I don't know. I feel like media training, like, I've learned from you. I'm like, what's meant to happen will happen. Like, you go through all these things, like little things, big things, and you keep it moving. And like, you learn from it. That's all you can do. Yeah.

Is learn from stuff. I've learned from every single one of my situations. Yeah. But like I don't want to get media trained. No, I don't think you should be media trained. I'm not media trained. No. He can't.

Sam is already born. He already is. Yeah, he's bored media trained. But like, I'm not that type of creator. No. I am not the type of person and I don't want to be roped into the rest of fucking, you know. Like robots. People in this business.

No. I want to say how it fucking is. if I have to deal with the consequences of my own words from time to time, then I'll do it. But I feel like that'll separate me a little bit from the rest of the gestures. Yeah. No, you do an incredible, like, that's the thing that I say to Chad is like, and you, you should be so proud because your success is from being authentically yourself. Like, you're never turning anything on. You're never like making shit up for something. Like, you're just being you.

The only thing we're turning on is the camera. Yeah. It's not it's not fake though Like we're just turning on We're pressing record Yeah We're just letting it rip That's kind of like

What my thought was going to the summer I was like I'm just gonna press record And see what lands And it worked I mean it was our Nantucket weekend That was so fun We had a couple Nantucket at weekends That just like popped off

Yeah People are obsessed with you guys It's like crazy It was fun though It's not over yet Yeah I want to go back Sammy was inviting me This weekend

Or last weekend Why didn't you come? I couldn't. He said that your mom said I'm welcome anytime. My mom loves you. I love her. My mom loves you. I have like deep talks with Hallie's family that entire weekend.

Like there's one moment you all went inside and I talked. I know your whole like both your parents' stories and like how they grew up. My dad is an intense story. Yeah. So does my mom though. But my mom's like the glue that holds the whole situation together. She's amazing. So is your dad.

Your whole family's great. I don't know how she puts up with like us. She loves it She does love it But she loves being like a Like not like a background character But she doesn't like to be camera forward Yeah

Which I guess my sister Yeah I get that Like it definitely I have sister Like that doesn't want to me in camera It's like not for everyone Yeah

But like people are obsessed with my mom Whenever I get a glimpse of her in the camera They're like You love her She's amazing Come on just do it Yeah But I never want to like force anyone

do anything they don't want to know but i think that's what makes her her like in a family of like people who are like so you know like she just she's introverted we're extroverted opposites the tract that's her and my dad to a t yeah he will keep commenting this and it's a i that's not me hallie's comments are fucking crazy they're really crazy they're they're nuts and i don't know how you deal with it no you're a soldier i get shit on row Like, I get one mean comment. I comment and I'm like, this isn't true. But you get, like, photo, like.

Oh, I get ripped. Yeah. Like, fuck them. Fuck them. I've fucked any guy I've ever wanted to fuck ever. Yeah. And you're successful and that's why they're doing it. No, but, like, this is not even that bad.

I thought they were going to, like, really shit on me. But it pisses me off when people, like, come for appearances when, like, we've all been straight up, like, hey, we've had issues and shit. You know? Like, that is just, like, people are just. evil. They're nuts. Can you drink? Where's Chad? Fine. Let's just like, should I chugmax? Yeah, chug max. Can we talk max for the camera? Yeah. All right, cheers to success in love and and bugle fat removal. Huh? I was kidding. That's what you are accused me of getting.

What the fuck is that? I don't even know. I don't want to know. Cheers. Watch this. You watch this too. dude how the fuck do you do that you are I found this teach me some lessons no I found this recent new tech week's giving head it's actually insane

to deep throating tell I like don't give low drops because I have big teeth I like open my throat and unhinge it so the thick goes all the way down my throat It's crazy How does it go all the way down your throat? I'm like a lizard

Good for you I am like so shy in bed Until I'm with someone though What do you mean shy Like until I'm like dating someone I'm not gonna like Boom Shaka So what do you do Shackalaka

Take out the boom Do you check a guy's following list These questions suck Wait I'm just kidding They don't. They don't. They make the questions. I'm kidding. There are good questions. There's a lot of questions. Well, I'm sure they have to ask you a lot. You want to ask me something? What's your favorite thing about me? Tell that you're like ditsy smart. What does that mean? I think you're at least smart, but you're very ditty. You're like Margo. Yeah. That's like neither backhanded compliment.

I know people are going to think that. No, it's not. I know what you mean. You're like kind of like, oh, to lunch in the best way possible. But like you know. what you're getting for lunch. Yeah, I agree with that. Like, I don't know common things, like how to do laundry or like normal things, but I know how to get things done. You know, you're very, like, I can't cut with a knife, but I can like do stuff. What? I like to stay oblivious. No, honestly, being oblivious is the safest, but like safest space to be in. I just, like, I'm very cut to the chase. Like, if I don't have an impact on something, then I don't know about it.

If that makes sense. Oh, Zara. Okay, one more thing. What? How do you wrap this shit up? Like, I feel like I could talk for hours. Really? Because we're kind of like two fucking protons.

I feel like it's better just circulating each other right now. Protons. Do you know how to proton is? Yes. Shut up. Right? Neutrons. Neutrons.

Protons. All right. one more question. What do you most most excited for this fall? This fall? Football. I love football. It's fun. You get to drink. Do you like football players? Yeah. Have you ever smashed one? It was the most famous guy you ever smashed. Or what sport did you player or what profession did he have? He what we didn't smash. You know who I'm talking about. I honestly don't know. You've hooked up with some notable people. I'm not going to long. I do have a good roster. You do like I have a good roster. You have a good roster. You have a

You have names that I'm like, damn. Yeah. So do you, though. I know. I never said I didn't. But like you do too. But I don't even mean to get in this situation. Like, I really don't.

No, I think you're oblivious manner. I am. Like, I'm just like. You get you into the shit. Like, I'm like, what the fuck? Definitely the rapper, though. I feel like that's my craziest. That was crazy.

Yeah. Was the dick bag. Yeah. That was crazy. That was really crazy. That was my one date this year. That was your one. Make that shit up.

And I didn't even want to go. Like I didn't even want to go because I was so nervous. Are you nervous? Because I'm like, I've been to dinner with a guy twice in my life and the third is about to be you. No, that was a crazy. And the restaurants rented out and it's just me and him. Like, I can talk to anyone. Yes.

I was shaking in my boots. Did you pregame it? Yes. I was, wait, so he rented out the whole restaurant. Rented out the entire restaurant. I walked in. It was just me and him. Also, I had.

I had no idea where we were going. The driver texts me, hey, I'll pick you up at seven. So I'm like, okay. It's kind of hot. I've never had a driver pick me up. I've never, like, not known where I'm going. Or, like, that's, hockey guys want to do that for you. No.

It's never happen. Yeah, I'm like, okay, sure. But, yeah, I've never done that. That was crazy. It was fun, but. What'd you order? He ordered, like, everything on the menu. But the waiter could tell that I was, like, a first timer at this.

So she literally kept bringing the rosé. And he kept going to the bathroom to like gamble. And so like me and the waiter got close. And she was like, checking on you? Yeah. She was like, how are you doing? Like, I think you're doing so good. Because we're the only people in the restaurant.

I told her, I was like, I'm so nervous right now. She obviously knew who he was and what's going down. What? Where did you guys meet? You don't have to say what location. But like at what, like was it a restaurant, a beach? I went to Shay and my friend was talking to his friend. And his friend was basically, he's one of my friends.

He was like, I have to go to blank tomorrow. If I say it, you're going to know who it is. Yeah. I have to go to blank tomorrow. I want you guys to come with me. And my friend was like, I'm not going unless Argos. And I was like, I'm not going. That's how I talked about locations with you.

And then he deals on a visa. Yeah. We don't get into that. Yeah. Continue. But I was like, I'm not going. I love Blake Gray. Like, I'm not going.

Like, this is like back in the day. I don't even care if we put that in there. He knows about this. And I almost didn't go. And then the next day I just, I bought my own flight, bought all my own things, was just trying to be a good friend, got there. We walked into a restaurant. It was just him.

And then like 15 girls walked in that he had brought. And they all ran up to me and were like, Duke's mom. And so the rapper dude was like, who are you? And then I was like, Zara. And then I pass out in a bunk bed. And I woke up to a text from him. at a house with him. He was recording an album so like it was me, his team and his best friends. Okay. So it was so intimate. And I guess he had flown a bunch of girls out like, duh. And they knew me.

And so he was like, who are you? And then I went, passed out in a bunk bed, woke up to a text being like, hey, where are you? I want to hang out with you. And I asked my guy friend. I'm like, who is this? He's like, it's him. I'm like, what the fuck? You were like, nah. I was like, what the fuck? I'm terrified. Like, I don't know. It is a lot. Someone's like that big. And like, it's intimidating. Also, not that I was completely not interested, but I really wasn't interested in that way. Like, you know my type and it's like younger and like he's older.

Like, I don't care who you are. Like, I'm attracted to what I'm attracted to. No, I'm kind of the same way. Like, truly. Like, I was like, I feel like a date is a waste of both of our times. Like, I'm not your type either. I don't, I don't even know what his type is. Well, he said it before, but it changes, I think, all the time.

It was nice to learn from him. Like, I learned a lot about him. I thought he's nice. He's a really good guy, like so genuine, really cool, there for his people. It was an insane experience. It's an experience, though. Yeah. But yeah, that's my one date.

Like, that's just classic. I can't go on a date in New York, but I'll go on a date with fucking, what's his name? I feel like this is a great way to end it. This is a good way to end it. What are we doing tonight? I probably can go to Shamargo and black out. Yeah. Duke and I are going to the NFL tomorrow, so we have a car at eight.

Okay, so we won't black out. I am. No, we can, well, brown out. We're only eight right now. Yeah. We should have fun. All right, well, I'd love to have you on. Love you.

Love you. Love you guys. See you next week. Bye. Bye.