Extra Dirty with Hallie Batchelder - Kendall Vertes is Not So Little Anymore

Episode Date: November 27, 2025

The newest Unwell fam member Kendall Vertes joins the Extra Dirty hot seat! They start at the very beginning, what a full day looked like for Kendall on Dance Moms, how they were forced to stir a pot, and her relationship with former dance coach Abby Lee Miller. They discuss Kendall's first heart break with the viral Michigan football player, her 'normal' college experience and how she balanced academics with her influencing. Hallie and Kendall break down their filler eras, what they look for in dating, & Kendall's hot takes on 2025 trends. BESOS BABE! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

There's something about girls being in the public eye versus a man being in the public eye that kind of like almost gives me the ick. It doesn't sit right with me sometimes. If they're super camera forward, it's like, okay, Diva, relax. No, literally. You know? Like, let me, let me, do you want to borrow my loctobody? Like, why are we, what are we doing here?

What are you little freaks? Okay, guys, I'm doing something really stupid right now. We have an emergency debrief situation. Hi, this is Hallie from the streets of New York. Guys, I had every intention of staying in last night. Okay, guys, welcome back to Extra Dirty. We have the beautiful, the gorgeous, the talent, the newest unwell family member.

Kendall Vertes. It's okay. We just went over that 30 times. Kendall Vertes. Yeah. It's whatever you wanted to do. It's whatever you want. and it all spit on it. How are we? How are we doing this morning? We're good. I'm so happy to be here.

We've never, like, caught up. I feel like we've gone to events together, but we've never been able to just, like, sit and chill because we've always been drinking. I know. It's always like, drinking or drunk. It's always so chaotic at those events. Seriously. It is. We've never had a time to, like, just sit down and, like, get to know one another. No. And now we're in the chairs. We're going to get cozy. You're in the hot seat. You're in the hot seat. So tell me, like, where are you from? Like, we, like, let's go down to the basics. Like, where did you grow up? So I was born and raised in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Okay.

Nothing exciting. Then we shot a few seasons of dance moms in California. So I lived out there for like four years with my mom. Then I came back home, tried to be a normal person, go to high school, meet new friends, have a life. Okay. Then my mom was like, you need to go to college. And at first I really fought her on it. I'm like, no, I'm not going to college.

Like I'm going to move out to L.A. and be an influencer, which wasn't really popular at the time. Yeah. And she was like, no, no, no, you're going to get it. a degree and then you can do whatever you want. So then I went to James Madison University in Virginia. Then I moved back home. What was your major? Political science and pre-law. Okay, wow. So you were like, what am I going to do with this? Was there anything else that you wanted to do? Did you want to do something with that major? I mean, no. It was honestly, I didn't want to go to college. That's the thing. That's the main thing. I didn't want to go to

college. So when it came to the time to even find a college, find a major, I was like, I don't know. So my parents were like, well, why don't you study politics? Like, you're two hours from D.C. If you want to do something in politics, it's right there. Also, politics is like integrated in everything nowadays. So I wanted to push myself because it would make sense if I did marketing. Like, let's just be real. I've been marketing.

We've been marketing ourselves for years. You're like an OG influencer. So I feel like I would have been really good at that major. But I was like, I want to learn something new. Yeah. I mean, political science. I mean, I took a couple of those classes in college because I went to a liberal arts school. So like, wait, where did you go?

I went to Union College in upstate. No way. Yeah. So it's probably kind of, yeah. It's like a very small school. Yeah. And you'd just take classes like that to like, you know. Test out the waters.

Test you to take literally everything. And I were taking a polyside class and I was like, it's awful. Holy hell. I don't know what's going on. No, I know. And then I took a bunch of history classes and I was like, I still don't know. Like, this is too much for me. It's like a lot of memorizing.

It's a lot of memorizing. It's a lot of memorizing. And for finals or even like exams or grades, it's all just. writing papers like i never had like a multiple choice exam it was always you come in and you write like seven essays yeah and that's that so you also have to be a really good writer to be in political science yeah i'm i i barely graduated i'm gonna say that i barely like did you have chat dbt when you're in college you're like that age we had chat we i found out about chat my sophomore year oh my god you have a nickname for it chat i just call it chat i have to say the

full the full person last name a lot of the professors got really smart with it and started using tools to like detect chat gbt and like that's one of the reasons why have you seen any of those tic talks where like the professors are like crashing out in front the whole class wait yeah and i can't tell if that's real or not i i i see it from both sides like those are going to be our future doctors using chat gbt i know but like our future doctors just in order like press play in a robot probably that's that's the other thing we don't even have doctors anymore it's literally robots doing surgeries. Like AI is going to take over a lot of jobs.

This is not what this show is about. I'm going to have AI do my boobs. No, like AI probably could do your tits. Like if they really wanted to, it's going to like replace a bunch of jobs. Also, here like takes up a lot of water. This is not what they're showing about. Wait, yeah, it is. But anyways, next question.

But yeah. Okay. So you started, you were on dance moms. Yep. So how old were you when you started that? Eight. Eight. Okay.

And you were just like thrown into. How did you even like audition for something like that? I was at a studio dancing. We were pretty well known. We won a lot. I still, to this day, don't know how they really found my mom and I, but they reached out to my mom and said, hey, we have an open spot on this team.

Would you mind sending in a few tapes of your daughter dancing, a little home audition tape, just introducing yourselves? We sent that in. And then we met with Abby, our dance teacher. She was like, I want you to be a part of our team. you obviously are going to be in some weird situations like you just need to be able to handle that we auditioned and then we signed a contract for like seven years so you were there from the age of eight to like 14 15 okay wow so it's like very formative years very formative year and did the show

like blow up after the first season like right away and you were just like kind of thrown into it or did it kind of take a while for it to like pick up speed a bit I remember watching the first season I remember this so vividly I'm like I was sitting with my best friend who was also my dance partner. I'm like, I would never be on the show because it was so traumatizing for those little girls and like I was the same age as them and knowing that they went through that. I'm not kidding you two months later, we got the call of like, hey, would you want to be on the show? But it wasn't really popular. It was taking place in Pittsburgh, not a popular city at all. Nobody knew of us beforehand. We didn't have social media. We weren't on TikTok. They kind of just

put it out there and wanted to see how it would do. I want to say like season two, season three is really when it took off, which is great because that's what I joined. You're like, I'm actually the reason. The show got really famous. Was it weird? Like, were you going to school during this time? Like a normal? Like, we tried to, but not really.

And then you couldn't do it. I think, how old are you? What grade are you in when you're eight? Like, is that fifth grade? Third or fourth or fifth? Wait, guys. Wait, no. It's probably not second grade.

Anyways, I really tried to go to school. Like, my mom was like, if there's one thing I'm going to stick up for you for, it's going to be school. Like, they can't, they can't mess around with that. I eventually had to get pulled out at, like, noon every day because of filming purposes. And this is kind of T, K-plus-8. Have you ever heard of that show?

Oh, yeah, that crazy bitch. She is the whole reason child labor laws are even a thing. When she came out with child labor laws, we were like, wait a second. If your kids can't work 12-hour days, our kids can't work 12-hour days. And so she really saved us. All of our education, like, the education took a full 180. they actually let us do school for more than an hour a day. They let us take an hour lunch break.

Like we would literally eat in like a closet for 15 minutes and then go back in. What? Like the child labor lies actually saved our mental health and like physical health tremendously. But that also took place in like season three or four. What was like a full day? What did it look like from start to finish? I mean, we would get to the studio, I guess around like 11 or 12. They would prep each mom individually and be like, hey, this is.

is what you need to do today. This is who you need to talk to stir the pot. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They would force you to stir the pot? I mean, it's a TV show. It's a reality TV show. Like, that's what people need to understand. You would be so good. I'm like, hey, a bitch in the corner. You're not stepping it up, okay? Do your splits. I honestly hope you're a dance on one day. You would be so fierce. No, like, goals. I mean, we were eight. So, like, there's really nothing you can make us do. We were already terrified to even be there, let alone, like, have to do it on camera. We would be at the studio from like 12 to 5 on camera. And then at 5 o'clock, her real studio would open where like other students actually come to take classes. And then we would

take classes from like five to 10. And we couldn't go home. Like after a whole day of filming, if we went home, like she would berate you on national television. Was she actually as insane as she's portrayed on TV? I, a lot of us say that they actually made her look really nice on TV compared to what actually went down. That is crazy. Which, like, people don't believe because she still looked crazy, but they really hid her worst moments. Oh, wow. Yeah.

Like, she could have gotten some trouble. It's just, like, the show got so popular, she got so popular, she started making a lot of money. It went all to her head, and, like, she just thought she was untouchable. So you were thrown into, like, this whole crazy scene at such young age. How did that, like, affect, like, your relationships? Like, what was your first boy? Like, were you able to, like, do you have, like, talk about?

time to date like I mean or did those 13 not overlap not really not yet so like between the ages of 14 when you were done with the show yeah and you're a senior in high school so what 18 yeah I should I should know that what did those years look like because you're famous now I mean so I went back home okay and like my sisters went to the high school that I went to so everybody kind of knew of me and like what I just did it was really hard making friends like I didn't know who wanted to be my friend for the right reasons or like if they just wanted the clout i was literally just there to go to friday night football games go to homecoming like have a house party like i literally just needed to be a normal person and i will say like i was really crazy like boy crazy yeah because i never was

around boys i was around dancers and i was around the producers who were all gay and like we were traveling every single week i didn't go to school i didn't have any interaction yeah my crux was Cameron Dallas and like I would literally post like edits of us on my Instagram pretending like we were dating like that's how we did I kind of love that like embarrassing that was like kind of the similar situation with me I was extremely boy crazy in college because I went to an all-girls Catholic school for years it's like it's a canon event it's seriously it's a can't a wild animal you literally and I'm out into the wild and look at us we're just semi-normal yeah we're just semi-normal now so you like so was your first boyfriend like

you were like what is senior high school like what was your first heartbreak paint the picture for me i think my first true heartbreak do you ever do you remember the guy who went famous for dancing to justin beber in the locker room he was like labeled as number seven wait i'm screaming you dated him so my friends were like wait this would be kind of funny like dm him and just like see if he answers so i dm'd him and we literally started dating but he's from michigan so i would drive to michigan to see him he was a football player like he was famous on ticot i'm like this is great We started dating and then I'm like, wait, I don't know if I want a boyfriend right now. Like, I kind of rushed into this.

Senior prom comes up. It's over Mother's Day. He's like, hey, I don't think I can make it to your prom. I'm like, okay, that's fine. I'll just go with my gay best friend. The night before I'm like getting my hair done, I'm getting my nails done. I'm getting my eyelashes done. Like I have a huge busy day.

The week before prom, I'm like, I just like don't know if I want to be in a relationship. We haven't really talked about it. And I get home from all of my appointments. So my mom's like, oh, you have a package upstairs. Like, go upstairs and get it. And I'm just so annoyed because I'm going to break up with him and, like, I'm stressed because it's prom the next day. She's like, go upstairs.

Like, you have a package waiting for you. I go upstairs. He's in my bedroom. He literally drove to Pennsylvania to surprise me. Meanwhile, I texted him an hour ago being like, we need to talk. And he got the text while he was in the car. It was so awkward. And my awkward ass invited all my friends over that night because I'm like,

I can't be alone with this man. Like, can my friends come over? Oh, no. Prom was the next day. He slept over, obviously, because it's like a five-hour drive. He slept in, like, my sister's room. I wake up, he's gone. He's gone.

Didn't even say goodbye. Like, that was it. Then I would get VEMO requests from him being like, can you pay me for, like, mental health? For therapy. It was, and I felt so bad because he broke his heart. I really did break his heart. You're 22. Mm-hmm.

Okay, so I'm ancient compared to you. How old are you? I'm 25. 28. 28. 28 down. You're not 20. I was born in 97.

Wow. Really? I mean, don't say it like that. No, I really thought you were like 25, 26. I mean, I guess it's 17 years off. I mean, after a certain age, I feel like what's the difference between like 20 and 25? No, literally. I mean, that's my propaganda I'm spreading at least.

I'm just being like, what's the difference? No, I feel like I see that. Are you excited for your 30s? Yes, I am. I keep hearing a lot more people say. like yeah your 20s are fun but like your 30s are fucking awesome i think i'll be like my best peak looks my like when i hit the age of 30 right because you have like your makeup figured out you have your style figured out okay i can see that you have like kind of your life more figured out yeah

you probably think i'm 25 because i literally act and go out like one but like that's how everybody is i feel like nowadays like nobody cares anymore like nobody's trying to act like something they're not like you're just yourself well what was college like did you like to go to frat parties like what was that experience for you? I want to hear like your whole law in college. Yeah, college was very eye-opening for me as well. My best friends went to Penn State. Have you ever been to Penn State? Yes. So you know what Penn State. Like you don't, you go one person, you come back a completely different person. Like I will say that. But my college experience, I was really excited to just meet new friends. I went to a college. I didn't know a single

person. I'm like, clean slate. I'm going to start fresh. Four hours from home, like it's the perfect distance. And I ended up joining the dance team, which was really awesome because that was kind of like a sorority to me. I didn't join a sorority because I also didn't really want to be in that vibe. But the dance team, they were like a built-in family. I had amazing roommates and frat parties. We're a big frat school. We're not a big bar school, which is the only thing I wish was different. But yeah, I learned a lot about myself. I learned how to be independent for once. And also that's kind of when like my influencing really took off. So I was traveling a lot. And it was a lot to balance academics, life, social life, dance, and work.

Like, it taught me how to prioritize my time, how to be smart about, like, how much time I give what. So you were still doing social media when you were in college. Yeah, not a lot of traveling, obviously, because my closest airport was two hours from my college. So, like, it was really difficult for me to travel. and with dance team, I had practice every day in a game every weekend. Okay. So now that I'm out of college, I'm everywhere. I know.

It's like, I feel like I'm never in the same place. Like, why do I even have an apartment here? It's basically just a closet I rent. That's literally, I say I can't even say I'm from Pittsburgh because I don't live there. Where do you live right now? Pittsburgh. Okay, with your parents. With my parents.

Okay. Do you have plans to move anywhere? That's like literally as we speak, what I'm figuring out. Well, what are you leaning towards? There's like three places. I love Boston. I love the East Coast. I love the East Coast.

I went to the Unwild game or the Red Sox game. It was the first time I was ever in Boston, though. I absolutely fell in love with it. And I'm not a city person. Like, I need to be able to get into my car and go on a joyride if I'm, like, getting canceled. That's quite great is there. Yeah. So Boston was definitely a top contender.

And then Arizona, which I know is West Coast, but I have a sister that lives there. A lot of my girlfriends live there. So I have family and friends. So, like, I wouldn't feel out of pocket. if I went there. Arizona? Yeah. Like Phoenix, Scottsdale.

Scottsdale's really fun. I could see you in Scottsdale. I mean, I went once with this really old guy. Of course. A couple years ago and it was a time and a half. They have a great nobu there. They have a great like social scene there. It's like a party.

It really is. It never stops. Yeah. I didn't know that. I thought it was like all like golf courses. You would think. It's very like pristine. Like some parts are very like, there's a lot of money.

But it's so fun being surrounded by that. Like I love. going to dinner and it's like old men sitting with four like 20 year old that was probably me that was probably me next year like that's so normal there too like it's not frowned upon at all if anything if you're not doing that you're weird like get out yeah I felt like this is where I could live honestly maybe I'll move to Scotts day we can be I'm thinking about doing it for at least a year I mean I'm 22 like I don't bounce around yeah I kind of want to bounce around I also thought Dallas Texas for Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders but I don't know so that's those places

none of them were going to be what I thought you were going to say wait what did you think I thought you were going to either say Miami New York or L.A which would be like I feel like a clear answer for someone in this I feel like that's a cliche yeah yeah cliche I like California only to visit I could never live there again I love I hate Florida anything that involves Florida I hate Florida I don't know why I hate Florida I mean I just couldn't live there because I would it's so human get liver failure or something oh or that I associate warm weather with like partying oh yeah so Like, you know, you go on vacation, you get a Uber, you're like, woo. And it's like, you can't live there.

No. And then, wait, what was that? Oh, did you say New York? Yeah. I love the city, but not this city. I just like, it's too congested. Oversimulating. I'm such a home body.

I need to be able to, like, touch grass every day. You need a car. I need a car. That's it. Maybe Greden and I can move in together. No, Gredden won't move here. He's like, fuck that. Because he needs to be able to drive in his car.

No, listen to me. Music, Kempatris, Nikki Minaj, and just like going a little joy ride. He would love Kempatrice. He's just her, like, she's like his favorite artist ever. I love that. That's amazing. What is your family think about what you do now? They honestly, I love asking, like I love talking about this around my dad because he's so

proud of me. Like he's a girl dad. I have all sisters. And he, he, one of three? I'm the youngest of three. Oh, nice. Okay. Everybody always thinks I'm an only child, but just because I'm the coolest.

Yeah. sisters are in the shadows. I'm kidding. I clip that. My dad, he's like, I'm just so proud of you for everything that you've built. You are so mature. Like, it's so cool watching you do all these things and meeting all these people. You have a great connection.

They support it a lot also because I can support myself. Like, they don't have to support me with money. He's like, thank God. Yeah, no, literally. Lushing it, girl. Literally. He's like, thank God the last child can actually afford herself and I don't have to pay for it. But it also fell into my lap.

Like I started Instagram when I was like 10 during Dance Moms. Then after Dance Moms, we all grew big followings and then influencing and social media like really started to take off. And I'm like, okay, I'll emphasize on that. And you work your ass off. I think we all do. I think we can all sing. We can all say. I mean, I'm not dancing and stuff like that.

I wasn't doing that at the age of. I was doing karate yet. What? Wait, actually? I was one of those pick me bitches that was like couldn't, I was like a deer on ice. I kind of like that. karate but i went to an all-girls catholic school where you had to play a sport every season so i was like the field hockey goalie because i couldn't play on the field and i was the ice hockey goalie

because i couldn't play in the field and then i was the lacrosse goalie because i couldn't play on the field so i constantly had balls being thrown at me and then i got to college and basically the same thing wait that is so funny that's my life you are a goalie final boss like you know like imagine me in like all the goalie gear yeah it's probably swallowed you whole yeah that shit is big there was like these d1 fucking athlete bitches slang in bossy were basically going through me when did you start social media i started when i actually remember like loving like i loved when you would sit down i needed your martini's yeah i had to kind of switch it up because people like were coming out my throat for that but i used to just like tug nips i don't know if you ever saw

that era of mine. Was that like really early on when you first started? Really like 2022. Yeah. I would just like down on nip and have no reaction. I was going to say you wouldn't even speak sometimes. You literally would sit down, not say a single word, drink your drink and then the video was over. Yeah. And it would be like seven million views. And be I was going to say and people ate that up. You're like you're so sick. And I was like, thanks. I need to like figure out what else to do on this app. But yeah, I basically started. So I never had like a real job. Was never a corporate body. Just kind of host. assisted in the summer. Yeah.

And then I was like, I need to move to New York. So I was like signed with the modeling agency. Wait, I didn't know that. Yeah, EMG models. That's great. But then I had the eyelashes and I was injecting so much filler in my face. It just like didn't work out. And I was like, they're like either dissolve the filler or you can continue to model.

And I was like, I choose filler. Filler. I actually love that for you. I was like, it just suits my personality in this era I am in life. So you like feel your most self. Like, obviously you want to feel your most self At one point in time I really wanted to look like a yosified blowup doll Like my lips were so big

Do you have filler now in your lips? No, I dissolved most of it. Wait, what? Yeah. Your lips are naturally that big. Well, because when you put so much into it, when they deflate Yeah, like makes the surface area bigger So they're bigger than what they used to be

But they're, you can see, I'll show you pictures. I have terrible filler migration too. Actually, people would come after me for my filler and I'm like it could be a lot worse. Like, I could actually have full plastic surgery. You're picking on me because of my lip filler. Okay. I mean, lip filler migrates.

It migrates. I also drink out of straws. Yeah. Which you're really not supposed to. I, like, gave a blowjob like 20 minutes after I got my lips filled. Wait, also, Hallie did just say she got her boobs done and went out the same night. Yeah, I did. Your pain tolerance is actually so high.

No, it's insane. But trust me, when you get your tits done, you're going to realize when you wake up, you feel amazing and great. like literally you don't feel anything well isn't it like i because i've never been under anesthesia like i still have to get my wisdom teeth out and i am putting it off because i'm so scared of anesthesia isn't it like you literally close your eyes and then you open them like is that what it feels like you were out for two seconds you don't remember falling asleep and you just kind of wake up but they give you like a sedative before you go under okay so like you kind of just feel like

you don't care like you could like punch you in the face i wouldn't even care right now like you just feel very like it's like a x okay so you're making me you're making me excited for this but i will say not to make you less excited. Oh, great. Wisdom teeth surgery was a lot worse than... Thank you. Yeah. I'm like, now I'm debating, what do I get done first?

Oh, get your tit's done. I'm getting my boobs done in January. Like, I have to. Yeah. Teeth can wait. I'll give you a doctor rack. I actually was looking at one in New York. Yeah.

I'll take your wreck. Yeah, Dr. Anna Steve, shout out. She did my tits twice. Wait, shout out. I'll see you soon, babe. Yeah. Okay, sorry. What we're talking about?

I get distracted by tits. This episode has taken so many turns. Chat, do me tea to tits. To karate. That's what I was saying. I was a karate kid. I had my brown belt. Did you have two brothers, three brothers?

Yeah, I'm one of four. I have two brothers and an older sister. Sammy did football. You know that. Everybody tells me, you're going to hate this. Everybody tells me, oh my God, you and Sammy would be so cute. I'm like, I literally, like, I met him. You should date my brother.

He is cute. He's such a, and he's so nice. Sammy, if you're watching this. Sam, if you're watching this, hit up Kendall. right now. I have so many people that hit me up like about Sammy. He'd be a really good bachelor. He would. How old is he? 20? Unwell should have their own bachelor. Wait, he would be such a good bachelor. Yeah, he would. He's just like such a nice like boy and they don't make those anymore. Like it's really hard to find. Well, he's the youngest too. So you guys have something

common. Yeah. We're the best. Me and Chad, the middle kids. He was also there, but I didn't really get to talk to him. Yeah, we're like the devious ones. Okay. That kind of like got in trouble a lot. And then my older sister is... You've an older sister? Yeah, she's a sober Pilates instructor. I don't, that sounded weird description. She is, I'm meant to say, she's the complete opposite of me. She's sober and she's a potty's instructor. Oh, God, that was great. She's not like a sober plotter. She's sober, guys. Okay, so tell me about situation chips. What do you think about that? Um, I'm kind of in the era of situationships right now. Do the roster? I like my roster changes. Like two weeks ago asked me about my roster would have been a whole different group of people.

That's kind of like me. I, I travel so much. So I love just like meeting new people having a little fling for a little bit and then like moving on. But I have really bad attachment issues. What is your attachment style? If I hang out with you and then like you can't reply to me the next day, like I'm done. Like that's weird. So you're done. You're not like. You're not like. harassing them no i used to harass but i'm like wait what am i doing why am i chasing after a man that literally is a four we don't chase we attract and that's honestly the lesson i'm teaching myself every day it'll take a couple years for you that to really set in i feel like that's a frontal lobe development it really is and i still have three years still but the biggest problem is that

i really love athletes which is the first red flag like i love an athlete because i're type yeah unfortunately because I've never met I've never met like a good finance guy I've never met like a good normal man do you like a toxic guy yeah I'd go after those because honestly but toxic and toxic like sometimes they cancel out you know like a positive and a negative but a negative and a negative sometimes can make a positive no that's how I look at it too that's I knew I liked you um it's just like finance guys, especially at your age, I always say this. They should be, they should have no time for you. They should be working 100 hours a week in the office. So when they're 40 and more established and don't have to work as much, they can hit up you and have a billion dollars and then you're

sat. But I don't think finance guys at this age should really have any time to date. And they're kind of like dull. No offense. When they do, like they'll literally hit you up. You'll have a great week together and then goes to you and it's like what i just like like no we make more than finance guys no literally i'm like dude i'm not even trying to go after you for your freaking money like i honestly just wanted a nice man not in the public eye like likes to work good family morals and you ruin it do you not want to date someone in the public eye is that important to you i honestly don't care i was actually thinking about this this morning this was a shower thought i kind of like them being in the public eye because they go through what we go through like they get it when we get

backlash like they go through backlash and like they know how to handle themselves when they're out in public and like yeah they're selling about girls being in the public eye versus a man being in the public eye that kind of like almost gives me the it doesn't sit right with me sometimes if they're super camera forward it's like okay diva relax no literally you know like let me hand you my lip gloss like if you have like let me do you want to borrow my octobody like why are we what are we doing here no and it's really hard to pick those out because it's it's easy to hide and then you start to see and it's like wait are you more fame hungry than I thought you were like a man that's a cloud chaser literally my clip will go back into my body I was just talking

about this I could never date a man that's on TikTok or like TikTok is like a rare breed of man but I have I slapped with those guys yeah absolutely and will I do it again yeah absolutely absolutely that is not our husband no and that's also what I'm telling myself I'm like okay we can have a one-night stand I'm not going to marry you it like I think athlete would be a good camera forward person because all my friends are fucking wags isn't it like do you want that I mean I would be a wag but like you'd be a good my I mean I'm just thinking of like two of my best friends off the top of my head like Emma Pritchard yeah oh yeah yeah you're friends with her and Paige Lorenz right oh my god those are like ultimate

wags ultimate wags like the wags of the wags and but they looked out like they have really good partners I was gonna say I but I get a little scared with just like athletes well yeah it's really scary they travel so much it's so easy for them to cheat and it's so easy for them to just be like okay then bye like you caught me cheating okay see ya like they don't care but like if you find the right guy i guess it works and i feel like they have they definitely hit the jacket with them they're like awesome but that's the only issue i have with athletes but like will i would i still be a wag yes 100% yeah but i really like that era what sport do you have a sport that you lean towards

I used to be hockey now in football Who was your last boyfriend My last boyfriend I dated him from freshman year Up until senior year of college Oh wow Like my whole college life Yeah I mean

I had a boyfriend in college too It's fun But we also didn't go to the same college It was still long distance He was two hours away from me He went to Georgetown Did he play football? He played baseball he was a really good baseball player

He was at Georgetown which is a really hard school to get into He was a great guy, super smart, athletic, very handsome, good family. Started dating, everything was great. Senior year comes around. I quit the dance team because I wanted to just, like, be a normal college student and not wake up and have dance on my mind because it was too much. I think he took that as, okay, okay, he was two years older than me. He ended up doing his grad year at Clemson.

So we went from being two hours to eight hours away from each other, long distance to the max. When I quit dance team, he took that as, okay. okay, now you can come see me every weekend and come to all my games. I'm like, no, I'm going to, like, go out with my roommates. I'm going to enjoy college and, like, be able to finally travel on brand trips. And so then I started going out more. And he either texted me or called me and was like, I don't even recognize you anymore.

You're going crazy. You're drinking too much. I don't know if I can be with you. And I'm like, it just sounds like you're insecure and you don't trust me. And that's, like, not what a relationship should be built on. Yeah. So I said we should take a break. Our main thing was like, we don't do breaks.

we either break up or we stay together. I was like, no, let's take a break. Let's see what happens. Like, we took a break for like two weeks. I called him. I'm like, hey, let's try this again. We tried it again. Communication was just like, eh.

Then he officially like ripped the band-aid off and was like, let's just break up. We went like cold turkey, no talking for like three months. And then I started reaching out, how's your season going? Miss you. Let's FaceTime. We would FaceTime like once a week for hours. And then all of a sudden. he has a girlfriend and is living in Dallas with her.

I love that for you. Wait, okay, so tell me about your podcast. I want to hear about it. What's about and tell me everything. So it's called Not So Little. My nickname from the show, my mom would call me My Little Kendall all the time. And I'm like, now that I'm going through adulthood things, let's turn it into something a little more mature.

Not so Little, it was perfect. It doesn't really, like, put me in a box to a specific title or whatever to talk about. And it's kind of just me in my 20s, figuring. out where I'm going to go. What do I want to do? Am I going to do something with my degree? Talking about friendships, relationships. Obviously, I have some cool friends that I want to have on and guests, but it's more of like a vlog style podcast. So every episode, I'm either traveling somewhere or I'm at home figuring out life and living with your parents. I mean, I feel like this era is of your life, like right after you graduate college, hasn't, like a show like this hasn't been

put out there it's like so important because it's such a confusing time it so is you don't know what you want to do where do you want to live like what if i make a mistake doing that and it's like you're playing chess with your life almost yeah and there's also just like being thrown into the real world like there's like a lot of like your frontal lobe really starts to develop yeah i also think it's hard with ticot everybody's always posting like this glam like the glamorous side of their lives of like oh i just got my new nine to five like i'm working at the jp morgan building oh my god they hate their lives all them And I'm like, am I doing something wrong?

It's so easy to compare yourself to, like, people you see your age on TikTok because they look like they're living this glamorous life. And it's like, wait. I also tend to post a glamorous life, but like I'm really going through it. I'm in the trenches right now. No, it's single. Living with your parents. My brother's doing the same thing.

Double homicide right there. Sammy, not to bring him up again. He's literally in the exact same spot. We can bring him up again. He's like, I'm, all my friends have like corporate jobs and I'm still living with my parents. he's like so confused he like try to join a modeling agency he's posting on tic-tok as you should and i was like that man deserves that that man belongs in a magazine wait you know who else is really cute who junior junior i think junior is cute too junior his best friend okay kennel and he plays football

what he both do great this is great my life is already turning around don't worry things are already looking up excited again but i just think that like for me all my friends had jobs right out of college. It's so hard to watch. I was a classics major and it was like, what the fuck? I don't want to work at a fucking museum. Wait, what was your major? A classics major.

I've never heard of that. In our art history minor. What? My thesis was the emotional manipulation of Hellenistic architecture during that period. Hallie, that is. And how it evoked emotion. I got an A. Craziest lore drop I've ever heard.

I know. I love dropping that one I can. I honestly feel like that would get a lot of guys. If you tell them that at a bar. I bring it up way too much online. No, I would. That's a flag. I'll be talking about the weather and I'll be like, this reminds me about that time in the

Hellenistic era. Well, because I never would have pictured you being, like, studying that. Like, that's such a... Because people think I'm a dumb bitch, but I try to, like, make people think that, though. No, I love that, though. No, I love it too. People think you're dumb and then you open your mouth and they're like, wait, she actually knows what she's talking about.

I, like, I, like, online when I posted TikTok, I really stretched like the vocal fry and it's like kind of like this whole character I portray. But, um... I love that. I didn't have a real job until 25. Really? When I started making money online. I was a hostess.

That gives me hope. With 16-year-olds. Yeah. When I was 24 years old, it was a weird time. Nobody, I feel like everybody that graduates college, a lot of them don't go get a job that they studied. You can have a degree in political science and pre-law and literally go work for a marketing agency. That's another thing that I was kind of giving myself grace is like I don't have to go into politics if I study politics.

I would never go into politics. it is a doggy dog world i already get so much hate if i went into politics yeah my life would be ruined but i mean that is such a good message though like literally give yourself grace i just yeah you just have to tell yourself like everything is going to work out you're 22 stop comparing yourself it's going to be okay there's going to be like a really comforting element of your show because i feel like a lot of people are probably in your position like figuring it out and um i think that'll be really fun i love I mean, for me, I do the same kind of thing. Don't always post, I don't glamorize my life too much.

I like to always like also share what I'm going through, like my mental health. And if you show, you know, the ups and downs. Yeah, my eye rash right now. If you show the ups and downs, I feel like it makes you a more tantal, relatable person. Yeah, and that's literally all I want to be. I just want to be like as relatable as possible because I may look like I have it all together and live this glamorous life. Like people think reality TV pays well.

We made shit. Yeah. It's also a lot. Like the public screwed, getting publicly scrutinized at such a young age, that fucks with your head. Yeah. I can only imagine. But I just want to be like that person that you can come to for comfort if you're going through it in your 20s. I'm right there with you. Well, I'm excited to see. Thank you. It's going to be fun. Okay. Okay. Let's do a segment. Okay. Let's do some rapid fire hot takes on some fashion and 2025 trends. Okay. ballet flats replacing sneakers placing sneakers replacing sneakers I have big feet so I you'll never you'll never find me in a ballet flat you'll never I look like a clown it's funny not you say that as a dancer oh yeah yeah but like I can't hop on that trend either I just I think they're they're cute if you have fucking petite ass feet I don't so no yeah I'm like an eight and a half I'm clean girl aesthetic yeah I like it I like like to follow it I like like to follow it I

like to portray like I'm a clean girl. Oh, I don't. But I'm not, obviously, but I like to give that aesthetic out. I mean, with the Ralph Lauren shirt. I really try today. You're giving clean girl to me. Thank you. I have like this crazy rash around my eyes. It looks like I just did meth before this. So I don't know if I'm giving that today with my Tesla hugs. With your Tesla hugs. wearing headphones as accessories. Also, pick me. Pick me because I walked in like that today. No, no, no, no. Okay, but you also like traveling. Like people will just like put headphones on to just like post a photo. Wired headphones making a comeback. I don't know how to feel about that. Like do people think it's like cool to have wires again? Oh, I thought that's what it said wearing. Oh, but you're right. We're wearing just

headphones as accessories. That's picnic area. You're right. I think like people wearing the wired headphones now. It's like, oh, look at me. Like I'm not spending $800 on a pair of headphones. I love it. But I love it. Yeah. Because I keep losing my fucking AirPods. No. I can't buy another. Also, you don't have to charge them. Yeah. Like you just plug that. them in but I don't like the people that wear them to like be cool look like very like artsy yeah yeah yeah yeah I get what you're saying I think I'm giving me a girl right now no you're not I like your answers and I like that you're being honest with me um 2016 king Kylie makeup oh my god it's so awesome yeah I honestly loved that for her yeah king Kylie like really was a transformative

year for me how old were you went in 2016 because I was like a sophomore in college you're probably in elementary school I think I was either in middle school or high I was definitely in high school I would always wait online for the lip kits to come out like I mean they're still in airports

I know the little vending machines and I'm like who's funding this they have billions yeah um okay micro bags I like them because they're easy I like them when I go out

like I don't like a big ass bag hanging on my arm like a what do they fit though oh those yeah hate it Like a Judith Labor. Also, like, why are we paying $1,000 for a Jacques Cremant? Jack Moose? Yeah, that.

Oh, that's my Jack is Jack Moose. Like, why are we paying $1,000 for something that literally could fit a quarter? No, I agree. It's not, like, you can't use them. I just think it's, it just ruins the vibe. Jorts. Hell no. I have dancer legs, though.

I love Jorts. Yeah, you have great legs for Jorts. I have the fattest fucking quad muscles on this planet Earth. you will never catch me in George. I put jorts on and it looked like I cut skinny jeans. Like they were literally wrapped around my thighs. I only like edgy jorts though. Like not like through.

Like the frayed. I like the frayed. Like Marjala. Like good patchwork. You wore jorts in Vegas and it was so awesome with like a white tank. You're off at eight. I literally have it engraved in my memory. You had a black top on with a white Haines tank and jorts and it was like, who is this?

Like she's so cool. I worked with the stylist though for that one. No, but as you should have. I was stressed about Vegas, honestly. Okay. What is the best accessory? That's a question. I think for fall, a really good scarf.

Like right now for New York, I love like a big, thick scarf. What's a good place to get a scarf? I'm a classic, and I just go with Burberry. Burberry? I like Burberry. Or Acne Studios has good scarves, but they're just expensive. Acme Studios has really good scarves. We're not giving a good budget right now.

Are you into it? Oh, Eritzia. Oh, Rizia is good too. Yeah. Are you into mixing metals? Yes, I am into mixing metals. I feel like that's fun. I used to be a gold girl, then I started mixing.

You know, I think silver works with my skin tone. I really like your hand tats. Thank you. Aren't they fun? Those are really fun. I went through like a really weird era earlier this fall. And I was like, I need to get some hand tithe. I like it.

Yeah, they're like dainty and fun. Yeah. But what is your everyday outfit staple? I just like a good pair of baggy jeans. Same. What's your favorite brand of jeans? I love a goldie. A goldie, yeah.

Egoly is good. I've been loving E.B. Denim. Citizens of Humanity has really good jeans because it's so soft. It literally feels like you're wearing sweatpants. And rag and blue and it's good jeans too. All expensive, but all worth it. All worth it. Invest in a good pair of jeans.

I'm starting to, like, my cling girl aesthetic is buying good staple, like pieces. wardrobe capsule yeah i need to get better about that what is your hot take on sorority recruitment hmm i just think all in all it's just so toxic like they it's like really it's just really toxic and i feel bad for the girls that don't get the sororities they want because it's like at the end of the day it's a literal sorority at a college like it's not that deep yeah i was never in a sorority it's supposed to be a sisterhood and you're literally turning people down for like a minor flaw like their hair color what like also i'd be damned of a bitch to tell me what to do like at one of those sororities it's so crazy that people pay like thousands of

dollars to be a part of like that social it's like a social status it's a social experiment i think yeah it's really odd to me to be honest someone said alo's a social experiment and now i cannot like think that that's so real um being in a relationship in college we kind of already went over this but what do you think about it um i think if it's stable that's fine if it's unstable get out is lasting longer than a year. Oh, my God. That's a relationship. You would literally never see me outside of the house if that ever happened.

I mean, like, what does that even mean you're in a situation ship over a year? Okay, what do you think a situation, like, how long do you think a situation should last? Max, three months. I was going to say three months, too. Yeah, max. After that, like, if I like you, I know within two hours. I'm sorry. Yeah.

But, like, after a month, I think it's okay to, like, have a conversation on what are we? A thousand percent. After, like, a month, a month and a half. Men can't comprehend that, but like the women can. Like if you, like, what do we do? And like, don't waste my fucking time either. No, seriously. Yeah.

I'll literally replace you within 24 hours. Period. I'm putting that in my bio. Okay. What's the best night to go out in college? I love a good Thursday night. Mine was Wednesday. Really?

Yeah. Thursdays are things are just like going out. Yeah, who would fucking rip it. At Union College. Yeah. It was really fun. Honestly, I could see that. Yeah.

I like a Thursday night. I mean, I mean, Friday's also fun. I hate Saturdays because then you have one day left at the weekend. Like you wake up feeling like shit on Sunday. You have to like reset, do your sheets, do homework. What do you think about day drinking? I loved a good day drink.

Like a dardy. Because some of my friends used to like love to go out all during the day on Saturday and like go to bed early. But like I'm a night person. I am a night person. Like if I were to day drink, I couldn't, you wouldn't see me out that night. See, I can do both and I'm blacked out by then. It is. It's a lot.

I've done it maybe twice and I will never do it again because. I didn't survive, but I love a dardy. Should people do long distance during college? I mean, I did long distance and it was fine. It just takes a certain breed. Like, not everybody is built for long distance. I'll say that. I think it's better if you're like a busier person.

I also think long distance. People have such a bad stigma about it. I honestly liked it because I had my own time to do whatever I wanted. I wasn't seeing him every day. We would FaceTime for like an hour and that's all I needed. Yeah. But then it started to get a little repetitive and it's like, okay. You're like, all right, I'm over this.

Yeah, exactly. Who's next? Senior year burnout, did you have it? Honestly, not really. Yeah. I was, I mean, I was excited to get out, but I also was really sad to be leaving that stage of my life. I loved my roommates. Also, depends on your college experience.

Like, if you have terrible roommates, that already just sets your mood and attitude really low. Did you have shitty roommates? My freshman year, it was awful. I mean, everyone was shitty freshman year roommates. But, yeah, like that. I was the shitty freshman year roommate to these poor. bounce ball girls if you were my freshman year roommate i would bring guys back wait that is so funny and they were like we have practiced at like 5 a.m and i was like i don't give a fuck i would steal all

their snacks too okay but that's not terrible like that's not like a roommate from hell stealing snacks gone no i wouldn't like put a cat in like the microwave situation but like i was definitely like an annoying roommate the fact that's the first thing you thought of of being a bad roommate i mean have you seen that movie that there is a show i didn't watch it and she did you watch the cat in the laundry it's like a movie where it's like about like a really scary roommate and she like kills people oh my he was obsessed oh i'll send you a link okay i mean i wasn't to that extent so i comparatively was a great roommate um okay our boyfriend's allowed to come to the pregame for girls night if it's a girl's night it's a girl did i hear a boy in there like it's a girl's night it's a girl's

It's a girl's night. Is it ever a good idea to live with your best friend in college? I mean, it just, yeah. If it's your best friend and you guys, like, know each other through the good and the bad, like, yeah, you do it. Why would that be a bad idea? I'm kind of wondering. Well, because sometimes, like, I do get into tips with my best friends.

And I do have friends and I'm like, I could never live with them, but I love them. There are just some people that, like, physically you just, like, cannot live with them. It would not work out. Men who say they don't have social media. What do we think about those guys? I think there's two types I think there's one that's trying to be really pick me and being like this will get her in my pants

and then there's ones that genuinely just like do not give two shits about social media those kind of men would like I like those type of men. I want that type of man but it doesn't really come around often yeah if your man traveled for work three days a week every single week

that's fine because then I'll be traveling three days a week too like period or I'll come with you hooking up with someone who follows a thousand Instagram models deal breaker oh my god absolutely I'm cracking up Marshall

dating apps what do you think about them I actually I tried to apply for Raya and got turned away and that was it I said okay I'm not meant to be on dating you said no

I literally I didn't have referrals I'm like I'll send you a referral but I didn't think I needed one if I have 11 million followers I just spit into the camera If I have 11 million followers on Instagram, I did not think I needed referrals, but Not trying to like. No, but that's insane.

Be that person, but like, come on. Raya, what are you doing? It's okay. I just travel so much. So I wanted to see, like, who are the new fish in the sea, you know? Do you look? I don't know how their algorithm works either. Like my friends from home who, not to sound mean, like, they don't have a following,

but they're on Raya. No, I know. I don't understand how they choose people, to be honest. Girls proposing to men. I actually saw one of these recently You saw a woman Like Bella Thorne proposed to her man She got down on one knee

It's Bella Thorne though I know she's kind of a baddie I just don't think I'd want to see a bunch of like Normal people proposing to men Yeah Like if my best girlfriends from college are like getting down at one knee With a ring in hand I'd be like Babe get up

Like is this a skit? Am I getting pranked? Yeah I know I'd be like what? Get up All right getting a voice note from a guy You're newly seeing Hot. Hot. Yeah.

I love a voice now. We need more of that. Also, I've never received one. From a guy? Sammy? Sammy? Sammy? Would you let him be friends with his ex-girlfriend?

I think that's really cutting it close. I think it's inappropriate. Yeah, I don't think that should fly. Do you have an ick? Yes. And I've been saying this for a while, 30-year-old men using Snapchat as communication. Yeah, that's got to go. I think after the age.

of like 26, 27, you need to literally delete the app. Yeah. I have it for memories. That's it. I don't even Snapchat people and I'm 22. I literally have one streak. It's my best friend. I mean, I feel like Instagram is like the mode of like, that should be the mode of like

communication if you really want to. Texting. What about a hey, hi, hello? Let me see your titties. Well, if you don't know the person, it's like instead of like, can I have your number, I think can I have your Instagram is okay because sometimes I don't want to like give all these random men my number. I support that 100% Snapchat.

get me out yeah i agree with that sharing locations with your boyfriend oh yeah for sure not not in like in like the least weird way like a very innocent sharing locations yeah i mean it's a safety thing at the end of the day i also like for them i need to know where the fuck they're at obviously but i think just like i share my location with everybody and they should probably know where the fuck i'm at because sometimes i don't know where i'm out you should keep it out for the salina over here okay two more How much do you stalk before our first date? Hmm. I go pretty hard.

I go so hard. It's so scary. I know their address. And then I'll like zillow their house, what you're going to get sold in. I honestly, I have zillowed a few times just to see the price range of what their, like, their family well. That's exactly what I do. And that's exactly why I do it. But then again, since I only go after athletes, like, I go to their interviews.

I go to their huddles. I go to like, I search their names on TikTok and see who they're, I go to, oh, tagged. also guys girls I know I sound like a weirdo recent following dot com I can't I don't even ignorance is blessed baby it literally it shows you the last person they followed it shows you how many women compared to how many men all for free okay have you ever walked out in a first date no I also don't really go in a lot of first dates I usually just go to their house me me that's so me and then when someone's like let me take out to dinner I'm like like it's the nicest thing ever and it's like the bear no I do everything

backwards i like usually like hook up with a guy and then like if i like them through that i'll be like oh maybe we're going to date i see if they ask i see my future and it's very right exactly well my god it was so much fun this was we've done this forever i know i was gonna say that's it you know like that was amazing you're amazing your show is going to be amazing thank you everyone make sure you watch a show um and yeah thanks for coming on you're like a big sister i know we have so much fun love you love you so much and guys always you can watch on youtube and listen to me on any other platform like comment share with your friends everyone have a great week and i'll see you next thursday bye