Extra Dirty with Hallie Batchelder - My college roommate exposes me *our wild college stories*

Episode Date: August 21, 2025

Hi cookies! This week, Hallie is finally joined by the long-awaited partner-in-chaos: college roommate Margot! They get into it all: sneaking textbooks into the club, racking up parking tickets, sorority politics, frat boy regrets, and sharing one very uncomfortable twin dorm bed. Hallie and Margot open up about cheating scandals, toxic relationships, and their highly strategic hookup scorecard system, while also dropping their do’s and don’ts of surviving college. We love you Margot, you silly freak!! Follow @extradirty on socials and don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and leave a review to keep the chaos coming. 💋

Make all the mistakes you can in college, so like when you get into the real world, you know what not to do. Make mistakes with men. Make mistakes with women. Make mistakes in class. Cheat on the, I mean, you know, like, do all the things in college and then you find some of your best friends ever that last you for life. Yeah, like we're going to be at each other's funeral. Yeah. You'll probably be at mine, but, yeah.

What are you little freaks? Okay, guys, I'm doing something really stupid right now. We have an emergency debrief situation. Hi, this is Hallie from the streets of New York. Guys, I had every intention of staying in last night. Hi, you little freaks. Welcome back to Actra Dirty. I have a very exciting guest today, guys.

My roommate, Margo. Hi. My roommate from college. Excited to be here. You're excited to be here? Give a little intro. So what's the deal, Margo? Where you from?

I'm also from Boston, Massachusetts, North Shore. Hallie and I have been friends for like 10 years. Has it been that long? It may be even longer. You're aging us. Yeah, well, we met the summer before college. Okay, so we graduated in 2015. Well, me a little longer because I went to rehab.

But I graduated in 2015. Wait. Wait, I went to rehab in high school and college. Wait, 2019 graduated college. Yeah. But I was like, I did that extra semester. trimester so has it been that long what's nine plus six is five oh my god we graduated six years ago yeah we're old we're old oh my god my tits are going to start sagging soon but we met before

orientation yes on nobadir on nobadir in nantucket and i remember we're like in a car do you remember this we're in the car in the parking lot in front of nobadir and you're with your ex-boyfriend of the time and we're all like drinking and then we're like wait you're going a union and wait I'm going to union and then yeah but you were in like the special kids program you were really smart yeah well I got put in the weird dorm yeah on the other side of campus with the other nerds because I was in the scholars program yeah I was not a scholar me and you being best friends and ending up best friends at the end of college was like honestly it was just like an angel and a devil going out together all the time because my schedule as a

classics in art history minor what the fuck does that even mean I was like oh like I'll just just like do homework when I have midterms and I'll go to the library only when I have midterms. I was going out every night. I was partying every night. I was sleeping until noon. Like we're on completely different schedules. You had to take like 19 classes. I thought you were going to be a doctor. Well, I was pre-med, but yeah, I had a lot of labs. I had long labs. But like I would still, I mean, we'd go to like 30s on. I don't know how you did it. We go to 30s on Sunday and I would like bring my textbook. Not that I actually read it. We have a picture of this. We're going to clip this in the thing. No, like you would bring

the textbook and you'd be smoking the jay and then you'd have the textbook and you'd be like hey whoa yeah and then you'd be like the nucleus and like all the things yeah and then i'd wake up at 6 a rippin at all and then take my exam four hours later weren't you also like in other programs like the only programs i was in in college were rehabilitation programs anger management programs remember when they made me take anger management yeah i'm done so i almost got expelled one time in college and go to court. It was her fault because she cussed out Margo and I was just defending my girl. She cut me in the bathroom line. Which is like, we have to tell the story. I feel like this is a perfect way to kick off the

episode. Okay. So let's paint the picture. I'm going to say this without trying to get canceled because this was like something I almost got canceled for in college. Right. But it's also like we were like almost trained this way by the older girls who were really mean to us freshman year. Yeah. So it's like a thing in school like older girls kind of. We weren't being mean though. This girl was fucking nuts. And I will die on that fucking hell. Okay. And you're so right.

Girls, as an incoming freshmen going into college, especially if you're like attractive and pretty, it's just like a threat. Because I feel like as a senior you feel like extremely washed up, which is like not the case. I like laugh at that thought looking back because I'm like, we're 21. And also I feel like all our guy friends,

well, at least for us, we're like our friends. So it's not like we had like felt like threatened by freshman girls, but they were, they were threatened by us. I got blacklisted from every sorority because of this because I was hooking up with the senior the first week yeah that must have had situationships that I didn't know about but like ignorance is my bliss like I didn't know about it right and that's another thing that I will say like going into college you think all the senior boys are

really hot and then you're a senior and you're like those are my guy friends they're literally they're not hot at you like that's just like a disgusting body I had oh my god yeah there's so many men I regret hucking up with in college but anyways back to the story so it was like it wasn't I want to say? I'm trying to paint the real picture. It's either fall or spring. All I know is you were in a bomber jacket. Like you looked like you were ready like fight.

I was in one of those like feisty moods too. Yeah. Because I used to get in those in college. I think maybe I was to that. No, you definitely were. But like when you're a junior and when you're senior, you feel like you have like seniority. You're an upperclassman. I feel like it's also this way in high school.

So you just kind of felt like this is my house. This is my show. And anyone that walks into it like, like you said, we were like programmed to think like that. and like kind of like telling like the sophomores in the freshman like go fuck themselves kind of vibes which shouldn't be the case but like kind of is the case when you're like in college whatever right so anyways there was a massive ass line at the biggest house party place Saturday night and we had just left like I think a beer garden or something situation like at someone's birthday party the drinks had been served the drinks have been served the substances have been done so we're all like feeling ourselves anyways

there was a massive line to the bathroom and you really had to pee. I like honestly wasn't even involved in this until I made myself extremely involved. Margo you were cross-eyed. More cross-eyed than me at that point. And you were just like kind of like silly. You weren't like being rude about it.

You were just kind of like you just went to the front of the line. There was a line of freshman girls. Like out the winged. Yeah. Oblivious and ignorant. Like oblivious to her surroundings which is like the kind of junk you are. Right. Your naivete was.

called naivete yeah do you like that naivete naivete it kind of like comes out and you're just like whatever like kind of like a damsel and distress kind of yeah like this is my friend's bathroom yeah you're like this is my bathroom like what are you doing this freshman girl starts cussing you out yeah she starts getting in your face the fuck you fucking bitch you think you're the fucking motherfucker and I was like oh my you're like you do not talk my friend that way I saw this far I go let me get involved how do I insert my and make this about me I walk in I go Marco who is talking like that who is talking you like that right now what did I say a good friend very loyal I think you just like you

like heard her like come at me and I was like what literally just like you know very much so put her in her place being like what you see the floor oh wait that was an all-time quote I go see the floor you fucking say one more word I'm gonna fucking face in it motherfucker. The floor will be your fucking face, but you don't shut them. Yeah. So anyway, she told campus police. She told Campo that I assaulted her. We went to court. We went to court. She was a witness. This was the craziest shit ever. Like, I was so stressed out because I actually didn't, like, it wasn't actually assault her. Right. But I was facing 10 points. And you already had a lot of points because of the parking tickets, which is a whole other story. So like to explain, I went to

Union College. Well, we went to Union College. They have a point system. So, like, getting caught drinking underage, one to two points or, like, little things, like, points could add up. You could also, like, do things to get points taken off. And, like, you can't get 10 points. Ten points is, like, you're facing suspension and expulsion. You're getting, you're getting expelled. So that's either fights, which some of our friends got expelled for that, like, getting into fist fights. They took that very seriously or, like, anything like Section 8, like someone, like anything. that to do with like rape or sexual anything like that that was 10 points so the fact that i got email it was like what was the email i need to find this fucking email it was like aggravated assaults

and i was like you had to like go to counseling i had to go to anger management and like we you pulled up in a full suit we had like notes we had binders we were like we were ready to like you were not getting suspended or expelled i also like paid full tuition they were not suspending my ass I anyways. But I took it so seriously. I had an opening argument. I had witnesses and I had a closing statement. And she was trying to cuss me out the whole fucking thing. Do you remember that? Yeah. And then she transferred. She transferred. She was like she ended up like the whole situation was so messy. Yeah. We had to talk about the parking too. The parking was absurd. I mean, Hallie would get like six parking tickets in one day because we would like drive to like and our campus was

like we didn't need to be driving, but we would drive everywhere. It was driving was like an activity. Yeah. In college. And there was nowhere to ever like park. So Hallie would just kind of like pull over to the side, just random places and literally like. I think one day you got seven tickets in one day. There's a video.

We're going to clip this all because you have a video of me like with five parking tickets in my face and I'm waving myself because it would all just get built to my dad. I remember like I was supposed to get new tires like sick like blacked out tires, blacked out rim. like all that shit and then he got like a 10 grand parking bill for that semester not to mention insane he was like fuck you you piece of shit camp would also like target your car because like your license plate literally it was like HCB number one there was no mistake it heard it was every day and we'd be blasting like fucking like the craziest music with our starboxes being like no wonder this thing you hated us yeah but like we were so fun it was fun. What was like your first

impression of me? Orientation. Definitely like yeah. I feel like freshman year that one, that first trimester was really difficult on me. Do you remember? I slept on the bean bag of Lauren and Katie's room down the hall. Yes. You did not stay with

your roommate. Well, because my ex cheated on me and I was definitely like, I'm definitely like not someone that's good would change. Any change, any shift, even like change of like weather, change of season. it like affects me emotionally and I know that so like going to college obviously that's like a massive leap you're like leaving the nest and like I was leaving a relationship I was on tumultuous

grounds of like that relationship as well so like things were just kind of like the unknown the ambiguity of college just kind of like freaked me out right got cheated on within like 10 minutes of college I did too well right before it oh my god sisters in cheating yeah I feel like everyone does going into college in a relationship this is very hard In hindsight, you know, hindsight's always 20-20, but, like, I would never do that again. I agree. It's hard to have that lens when you go into it, but I feel like there's very few people that actually, unfortunately, works out. I know, like, one girl that married her high school sweetheart.

Yeah. And, like, they had been together since they were, like, 14. So I was like, you kind of, like, have to, I guess. Like, I would feel like you're wasting it all this time if you didn't marry them. But anyways, I got cheated on 10 minutes in college. Do you remember how that all went down? Were you with us? I don't think so.

I think I came on, I came really onto the scene, like maybe. Do you remember my freshman roommate? Yes. She hated me. Nicole, I'm sorry. I was a really bad roommate because I was messy. And I was just like kind of like, I didn't give a fuck. I never contributed to the room.

And she was like an athlete. Like I don't think she went out a lot. She was a basketball player and never went out. And I was like stumbling. Sometimes you would have me. come and sleep over in your twin bed because my like separation anxiety my dorm was across campus it was so far and it was scary to walk home at night because we had doids and you were throwing up in the bed in our twin bed I'm sleeping in it too I'm like alley so there was this one time where we got super

fucked up on like pink Whitney and like raspberry's vodka yeah it was like early on into college I remember it so clear and I was so sick I threw up in the bed and I remember a weekend in the all night and I tried to blame you. You were like, dude, why'd you throw up? I didn't throw up, but you threw up. And I'm sleeping at it. And Nicole's probably like what's going on? You were fucking crazy.

I was like, one time, well, this was in the menswerva. We should talk about the mincewerva too. Explain to them what the mincewerva is. So sophomore year, we had like a group of like, what was it, five or six girls? The fucking squad and hot-ass bitches. Yeah, we couldn't all live together, and they were going to live in, like, one of the good dorms where a lot of, like, sophomores live. But for some reason, I had the option to live in a minerva, which are in these, like, buildings that are, honestly, way nicer and newer, but they're kind of, like, a club. Like, they do good things for campus and such.

We weren't really part of one. We were just able to live in one. Because of my GPA and my points. Right. I couldn't really do anything on campus. Right. I had to, like, give back to the community. one point yes but but I was granted the Minerva so I was like let's live in

Minerva I have to take highly and like no one like of all the people that we knew and were like social and went out like no one lived in the Minerva's like everyone lived in Fox that's like what's fun that's where you like live but I we thought it'd be fun the best decision we ever made yes and we like made it cool and we called it the menswerva the Minswerva high ceilings quiet newer nice bathrooms newer your own little like study dorms like kitchen TV rooms. It was like the perfect scenario. Like a piano was downstairs. Yeah. No one wanted to live in them because it like wasn't cool. Just like...

Because it wasn't like a party dorm, but it was like way nicer. Also, I wasn't in a sorority. Right. You were. Yes. I like honestly had it all backwards. I wasn't allowed to do anything. I was barely allowed to wipe my own ass. They wouldn't let me in the sorority because my GPA because I didn't know you had to go to class in college. I thought it was just like the movies. I thought you like didn't have to go. You were getting your degree in. I was partying. I was trying to build rapport with the senior boys. Which you did. Which I fucking did, by the way.

I was sucking everyone off my freshman year. I went in with like one and ended up with like 11 bodies by the end of the year. Yeah. Remember the roster? We have to explain the Sigma Chi roster. I still have it, you know. It's under my bed. No.

I need a picture of it. So what we did is we had like, see, every fraternity or sorority class would have like a big class picture kind of like a your book but it would be like everyone in the pledge class and like above so like seniors junior sophomores everyone in that frat and we printed it out somehow we acquired a copy yeah i think we stole it from one of our victims yeah and like between all the girls like we had a decent friend group and like we obviously always hung out with this frat so we just decided that we we should start, like, crossing them on when someone, someone hooked up with them.

The whole page is sharpied out. Yeah, it's at least three-fourths of it is gone. And fourth is it? Like, yeah, it's, like, absolutely gone. But I used to, like, hook up with guys just to, like, hang out with you guys, remember? Yes. You would look at the roster and you'd be like, who lives on the third floor? Okay, I'm going home with them tonight.

Just we could have Starbucks runs in the morning. Well, because I just wanted to, like, go to Starbucks with you guys in the morning and like have like a little kiki like I didn't want to have bomo I know I mean it was so fun Lauren were hooking up with the same guy like same grade in Sigma Kai right and I was like I need to find a guy in Sigma Kai and that grade on that floor so I did it was great and I remember that one night because we all wanted to wake up there that one morning and Sigma Kai is fucking disgusting it is the amount of times I've slept there though disgusting so gross like literally should be illegal it should like break a lot

lot of health hazard codes but anyways I remember we went into like what's his face's room and everyone was like smoking weed and this was like during our weed era we were stoners for like we were stoners but I was also like a pick me stoner like I wasn't like getting high to like I didn't like it I would get high and be like ah and then like I like would hate it I was just like trying to like be cool and like take like selfies and like post it to like my Snapchat stories Yeah, but, like, you, you had a full bong in the mensurba, and, like, we had papers. We would, like, try to roll. We were really bad at it.

We didn't know what we were doing. We were practicing rolling, like, before going to bed. Instead of doing homework or, like, writing papers, I was like, how do I roll to be cool in front of these Sigma Chi boys? It's, like, that, like, crosses our past eventually. Yeah. But anyways, I was like, you want to hit the bong? And I was like, yeah, we hadn't hooked up yet.

And it was, like, all of us in a room. And you guys dispersed into your own rooms. And I was, like, alone. High as a fucking kite. And then I just remember his hairy ass, like, pumbling on top of me. Oh, no. And I was, like, just, like, overthinking the whole thing. And it was, like, really, like, my mouth was, like, cotton, you know, like, cotton mouth.

Yes. It was dry. Like, there was no sloppy in my topy. That sounds really scary. It was, like, a horrifying experience. But, you know what? Made up for it. It was best.

I got to wake up the next day with you guys. And we always went to Starbucks next morning. We always drove to Starbucks or Whole Foods and got mochi balls. You also paid the Starbucks mortgage? I think I want to, like, see. see if I could find that bill. No, like we went every day and sometimes you would go two to three times a day. I love a macho.

I loved a matcha. We were good friends with the barista. We'd like FaceTime him from the drive-dial. Cody. Cody. What else? I wanted to talk more about sorority life. So you were in Delta, Delta, Delta.

And I, they wouldn't let me in for a multitude of reasons. But honestly, it worked out because you guys ended up getting kicked off campus. Yes. it didn't survive did you get hazed there like I never was a part of anything no and that's why there was a one hazing thing that was like barely hazing I do want to read the listeners the SDD hazing thing from like 2013 yeah that was like a big thing I'm gonna read an excerpt of some of the shit they went through have you ever read this article or maybe all right I'm gonna read it to you in the class everyone take a seat about your popcorn all

the sisters sat in dark. We couldn't see anything, but they could see all of us in our every imperfection. The sisters, who wanted to be amused and make us cry, asked us ridiculous and mean questions. Do your sexiest dance, they once demanded. Why aren't you working hard enough? Why are you doing that? You look so stupid. Well, of course it looked stupid. I was gyrating by myself under a spotlight while another pledge pretended to be a stripper pole. Why do you think you're better than us? was commonly asked. Who was the prettiest sister in the groom? Which one of us is a lesbian?

And why do you think that? At any given lineup, at least a third of my pledge class cried. That's fucking crazy. That was SDG. No way. I also heard that they did that thing where they would have to watch lesbian porn and sit on basketball

and see if they got wet or not. That was a thing. Also, I heard that they did the thing where they circled all their, like, Fat. A fat on the washing machine. But the big thing was one girl in the Pledge class would pretend to be a Super Bowl under a spotlight in the middle of the room while the other would like pretend to like

do like a sexy Super Pool Dance in front of the whole sorority. That's crazy. I would cry. I would throw up everywhere. SDT. What a crazy little name. SDT. STD.

STD. STD is what we used to get in college. I only got one. Oh, tell the story of that one time you got yours. Yeah. This was her sophomore year when we were living in Antiquet. I hadn't gotten one yet. Well, neither had I.

And I was seeing the same guy, but, like, I was kind of, we were kind of a situation ship and, like, in the summer, I go home and, like, kind of see my ex. So it was, like, kind of weird fucking thing. Have you seen him. So, like, I had seen both of them, and I'm literally, like, we're shopping and, like, salt. and like I get a random call and I pick it up and it's like my doctor and they're like hi like you have like chlamydia and like me never having an STD STD before being like 19 I was like shaking like oh my god like my life's over but I like didn't know what to do because I was like I don't know if it came from like college boy or like my ex-boyfriend so basically I had to like inform them

both because I'm a good human being and like I'm not just going to not going to tell them that one of them probably also has this. So Hallie and I, like, crafted a text, or Hallie drafted it for me to send at least one of them. And basically the text was, she had to use a random name, so she was like, so basically being like Barack Obama gave you chlamydia and you gave it to me. And then I, like, blurt out the name. So it looked like someone, I'd send me to text me, like, oh, so and so.

But, like, they wouldn't have known which guy we were talking about. Right. It was honestly brilliant and genius She was like shit Yeah That's crazy But I didn't get Chlamydia until post-college

Shockingly enough Well At least it's just one pill It goes away But your first time First STD It's not fun It's scary but

Also you don't really get symptoms I feel like you don't really get Chlamydia symptoms No it's only bad if it goes untreated You could be like infertile I don't want that Also like I mean

me personally I never had to deal with hazing I would never have tolerated it if a bitch was telling me like an older girl was like how do this I would say shut the fuck up Becky you would imagine one of those girls telling me what to do get me get me a meal do my homework do my laundry I would say fuck you bitch

you lazy ass piece of motherfucking shit yeah do your own laundry do your own laundry lazy ass but so dumb so insane I just feel like I had to share that I think I mean obviously they used to haze but like our year they were so careful because basically they were like trying to kick Greek life off our campus and so we literally I honestly wish we got hazed because I do think there's like an extent of like bonding in hazing as long as it's not terrible but it's like you're in a room for an hour with a bunch of girls and you're like sorting sprinkles or something yeah We would have to sit there and like literally we called it new member education and they would like teach us about tried out and we'd be like taking notes like it was like class. I was like this sucks and I'm not bonding. And you had to pay. And you'd pay. And I like didn't have to pay shit and like could do go to the same parties. Besides like the pregame to like some of the mixers. Right. But we were like we'd always have or a lot of our mixers were with like Sig Kai who are all our friends. So they would just let you come. And like obviously the guys were hosting. Yeah. The girls would hate that when I would just show up. Remember? They'd do like this fucking.

bitches here and she's not paying her dues i was like fuck you becky in the back but that also goes back to like we were like hated as freshman girls i think we were hated forever yeah and then we we'd like bully the older girls remember tell the story so there's this guy that i was like seeing on and off john tucker must die because that's what we referred to him yes their instagram isn't how fucking loyal i was too bitch i was a loyal ass down ass bitch no hallie is the most loyal friend you will ever come across. It's true. Don't fucking cross my house.

Love. I'll cross you up. Especially with guys. On and off with this guy for like first two years of college. And like there were always issues. Every time we'd like hear something else or something would happen like, Hallie would like take it to social media. She'd like post a hot Instagram of us and be like John Tucker must die.

I'd be like fuck these loser ass men at the guy she was seeing. Like I would always take it to social media. To the point where like his friends. I knew I was supposed to be in it. Yeah. I was like, I need to be. messy online for a second i had like how many followers like 1500 and i was like everyone needs to see this shit but his friends with like dm you being like you need to chill like let's like

let's not take this to like the public don't take this the socials i'd be like fuck you too yeah remember when he pulled out vibrators sorry i was just thinking about that friend i'll get to that after yeah remind me about the vibrator story because this is really important also remind me around the world. Yeah, but like senior year, there was this girl who's in another sorority, or no, sorry, it wasn't our senior year, sophomore year. His senior year, he literally went to the same like middle school as me. So, and she was always like super in support of like me and this guy. They were in the same grade. He had like just gone to or I just went to like his formal or something. And then like she asked him to like her like sorority formal as like a friend.

So I'm like, whatever. Probably shouldn't have been like whatever. But like she's a always been like so supportive of our relationship and whatever we find out you also wanted to be like oh I'm so cool with that like I'm totally fine with that yeah she was like a pretty girl too you just wanted to be like oh I'm totally chill with that like we've all been there because we weren't like official yeah continue situation ship that lasted for two years yeah three four motherfucker you will rue probably misses you know but anyway word got back somehow I forget who it was from I feel like it was from it was from other senior girls we were soft ones up the time okay yeah but we got word that like she gave him head on the bus like the fat bus on the way

to the function or coming home or something so basically somehow we like get confirmation about this like the girl is texting me apologizing but like my big and my sorority is like in their grade and like she's on our side all the senior girls are like and my sorority are on our side and it like gets to a whole point this kind of comes back to like girls bullying but like the cross girls fucked with this heavy and like that girl ended up being really weird and creepy yeah and like wasn't in like a cool friend group in my opinion so we were like out one night and like these girls like also had my back and like the other girl the mistress was at the party like the senior girls were being like she's over there like what was I saying there was that one you were like sitting in

the senior guys room all he's like a sophomore sitting in the room looking at her being like whore you're a fucking whore you're a fucking whore and you're a fucking whore and you're a fucking whore and you will all root like what and they did yeah she was fucking wrong for that though that was yeah that was not cool yeah but anyways like i feel like we kikiied with the seniors i feel like it's always like senior sophomore we did not get along with grade above and the great below yeah although the boys above us liked us clearly i was sucking everyone off because they hate me i just like this came to mind this is like one of my first experiences with the guy like introducing a vibrator into a room and I think they had like bulk ordered them remember that one night

that they did that yeah but like why are you using by like one vibrator with multiple girls no that's what I'm saying I think they were new though when they used them on you I'm telling myself that because they did say they just ordered it I know but like they would say that to us right but this guy whips out a vibrator and like is it okay to like whip out a vibrator in your room that's meant for girls clearly as a guy. Like, what do you think about that? Because I was kind of like, you're for the streets. But then again, I was like, I was like, legs out in there.

I was like, I'm for the streets too. I think it depends. I feel like now that we're more mature and like smart, I kind of be like, you, like, where is that then? Like, unless you're like my boyfriend and that's gross. Yeah. Yeah. But then I feel like it's like, okay, like this is fun and like maybe you like know what

you're doing or like you're into like my pleasure. Yeah. And I think if I was a. freshman and like a junior like there's something about the word junior I was like oh my god they're so hot and like senior boys like if they whipped out a vibrator I'd be like sure like I'm down like you also don't want to like be like not down to like try like things although I feel like as a freshman I would be scared if they were like wasn't scared I didn't fear I didn't even fear God when I was a freshman like I was a fearless freak. Margaret's like one of the few people that like knows me

to be in a relationship in college or in a relationship in general. you know it's a fun fact Lauren Fish has never known me to be in a serious relationship for the longevity of a relationship That's like crazy Like think about how long I've known her Yeah I've never been like you guys

Have all seen me in situationships That have crashed and burned But she's never seen me in a loyal I mean you haven't really either But a loyal dedicated relationship I would say your last one was loyal Me? You know him yes

The table's kind of flip well why was I not loyal I mean you were you were loyal until the end when it was no longer like it was clearly not happening anymore it was on his way out he started like he I was about a girlfriend though I was mean there was abrasive I was toxic I wanted to fight I but he wouldn't have sex with me right and that was like a big thing for me I mean that's huge and then especially for like a guy not to want that It's like, I feel like that tastes it, like your ego. It's like, why? Like, guys always want that.

And I'm like, I was like, he has to be gay. I still think that. But like, he has to be gay. And I'm like the horniest person on earth. Like, I'll hump, like a thermostat if it's on loud. So I was like, this is not working. He was also so sweet and kind and like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You'd call her chicken.

Chicken. He called me chicken. And he'd be like silly with us. We kind of were like a thruple. Not actually. I was just like always there. Like, they'd have. quality time and like I'd be there too he was like honestly a really good friend but like I was

like we're just best friends that I can't sleep with other people with right and then like our house senior year was really scary so he'd have to come sleep over and us three with and we still wouldn't have sex but like the fact that he lived right down the street and we were seeing each other like not every day and we'd have sex like once every three weeks yeah I wasn't good that's not good right? No. I wasn't making that up in my mind. No. I mean, everything was so valid. You just have a funny way of going about it. I was aggressive

and madden. Crazy. The amount of like blowout fights, broken iPhones, like I'm a psycho-ass bitch when it comes like really down to it. Like I would lose my fucking mind over this man. Not because I like thought he had a leg up. I had the leg up. Yes. Like I, he

was my bitch. But it was because I was just like trying to like make a statement hoping that we'd have like this like big blow out like hot and heavy fight and then we'd have makeup sex and no he just resented me after right am i reading that right but i do think you had worse reactions in your first relationship remember when you punched my mirror oh my god i forgot about that i saw this garment i might be aggressive like we have a picture of that too i was oh wait we do a picture of that because i you were hooking up with that guy and you had to come pick me up from the mincemerba there was bloods he would call me

he would emotionally torment me this man had me so fucking sideways and like had me so forgetting like who the fuck I was to the like it was emotional manipulation it was gaslighting before I even knew what gaslighting was he would take my insecurities my weaknesses and use them as emotional warfare that's what he would do to like fuck with my head So even if he wanted me one day and didn't want me the next day, he would know that he could do whatever the fuck he wanted because he knew how to pinpoint my like insecurities and where I'd fold. Right.

And that's just like how it worked. And I was in a time of my life where, you know, I was in the depths of like really deep eating stuff, fresh out of rehab. He was there with me through the whole rehab thing. He cheated on me when I was in rehab. he like knew what I would go back to what I would tolerate knew what like I was down bad about myself like all these things and it would just like use it against me he would call me every day being like hi it's time to break up again it would be like Friday every Friday when he wanted

to like go and have fun time the weekend yeah he'd like I don't think this is working and I think he also be like I think you're a slut I think you're a whore I think you like make you you're a wannabe you want to be known like I forget what are some of things he used to say to me It just was very gaslightish. And like basically like instead of like loving and accepting the person that you're with, like he was definition of like, I want you to change. Like this is who you are and I don't like it. I want you to be this like little prairie girl.

Yeah. Which just wasn't. I remember he just like always fucking resented me. I remember even when I got my first car at 16. He was like, I can't believe your parents are like that. They would do that. Like that's fucking disgusting. I'm like, what?

Yeah. like it's my birthday and you're cussing me out for a birthday present i got for my parents like excited for me he was pissed they got me a range over a vote that's like crazy and he was like that is such trash ass disgusting behavior and i was like who are you you have braces he really was on his like high ground of like morality like he thought he was like the bible on dash king of morals but then he cheats on you so yeah with ugly ass troll ass bitch yeah anywho any who sorry i just got but yeah there was a couple times where I would get like you're right the college boyfriend was definitely a lot kinder and nicer have you seen me be with any guys since then that like you like think we're nice or chill I think

college boy was nicest boy you've ever been with but I think that like while you need a nice boy you also need someone that won't just let you walk all over them yeah that's going to like stand their ground yeah but I do think they'll be a nice boy not like a manipulator I agree clear boy just for like younger girls listening you know we've all been there if you are in a similar situation I feel like you have to like drop that guy immediately I mean it's so much easier said than done and I wish looking back like I wish I could just like hug younger me like there were so many times I think about like times on Antucket we're just sobbing feeling like I wasn't good enough and just feeling like I wasn't the puzzle piece that was like supposed to like you know what I mean

like he tried to make me a different puzzle piece yes he tried to change you and that should never be the case like there's one thing to like grow and grow with your partner and both like push each other become better but they shouldn't try to completely like change you yeah and and also like it's out of their insecurities if a man is threatened by like things that you're doing or your personality you being too much like never let a man tell you like you're too much right men should celebrate you like your partner should celebrate you for that in my opinion and if they feel like you're too much it's probably because they don't feel like they're enough and like that's their own fucking battle and that that's like something they have to deal with and like they're putting their own insecurities

on you yeah and I think it was a lot of that too yes and cheating is the same thing like if someone cheats like it usually has nothing to do with the actual person and more to do with like themselves in their own insecurities. Yeah. And I will say even me when I cheated. Because I've been in both boots. And I do know that times that I've cheated was never in a time where I've felt like I was getting with someone that was better than my partner.

I felt like I needed validation at a time. I was super insecure. And I just needed like sex to validate me. And I've like gone about sex a lot like that where like I use it as validation. during like lulls of my life times of insecurity instead of like taking the time to like be by myself and look within i feel like i just like whore out and you feel like it's like a band-aid and it doesn't always work sometimes it's all fun to get underneath someone else but like it comes to a point where like you're numb to it and you just it won't heal you won't fix anything self-reflection being

alone and just like patience with your healing journey and that's fair and that's on period and i think leaning on friends yeah if you have good friends usually they have your best interest in heart and like if they're listen to your friends if you're really deep in it and they're telling you like it's not it i mean don't always take everything your friends say but i think it goes a long way and i think towards the end of certain situations like usually your friends are like it's time to stop when it should have a long time ago and the people you love your parents you used to yell at me all the time And to be like, this is so annoying. Because it's easier to see when you're not in it.

I mean, when you're in it, you're in love, you have like the love goggles on. And like you're in some cases like being manipulated. You can't like see your thing clearly. I was a full fucking spiral case. It's hard. We've all been there. But it was like kind of fun. We went to handle bar a lot.

We did go to handle bar a lot. Hell, you used to always get dumped at this one coffee shop in Antarctica. Honestly, best coffee in Antarctica, my favorite to this day. But I think it might give you some. PTSD triggers me because my ex-boyfriend for people that don't know he also worked out on Antucket for multiple summers renting not owning but like he was out there being a fucking freak I was so obsessed with him but like he would text me we like we hook up I'd give him the best sloppy's motherfucker of his life and then he texts me like the next day being like I think we should

meet a handle bar cafe and we'd always know we would go like before work and I'd just wait in the car Now I'd be like, out handle the bar again. Margo would wait outside. Just quick before work. For preface, Margo lived with me on Nantucket for like three summers in a row. Yeah. We used to work together as hostesses. And then like we didn't really work much.

We'd party. We were alcoholics that one. We were. Well, two summers. The summers we lived there, we 100% were. And we had all the same shifts. So they'd call us like the dream team. So we would just like go out every night.

We'd like three shifts a night. We'd have three shifts a week. And like we'd work like three hours a night. it was like four to nine it was four to nine i remember that one summer i made five like three hundred bucks yeah that was really scary but they would call us the dream team and then we'd just go out every fucking night on a full bender wake up shaking go to the beach get cross faded at the beach go to our shift fucked up go to the bathroom every 10 minutes to rip the jewel this is when the jewel first came out let's preface this was hallie i was out there running around busting my ass

I'd be like, where's, where's Hallie? Like, I have all these tables. I'm like, I don't know. She's in the bathroom. She's looking to Jewel. I'd be like on FaceTime on my ex. Or you'd be like behind the bar and like the bartenders would be like giving you shots because they were like, they like loved you.

And I was like, all right. I'm just running around. I'm like busing tables with Sammy. I'm like Sammy. I don't know where Hallie is. Oh yeah. But it's fine. We had such a good time.

You were a good company. And we go to Gaslight. Remember that time you had a seizure at Gaslight? Yeah, that was really scary. I go to fucking full blown seizure. and just kind of like collapsed i mean i don't remember it but you remember it because you caught me you were convulsing on the ground i don't know what happened prior to that but i think i think i just like gave like looked at you and you were like you just looked at me were about

to order a fucking drink and like you just collapsed and i was like waiter margot's fucking seizing on the floor and they had to like pull you out of there yeah and then we like went out after Yeah, and then they called me Lil C's. Then we just made a joke out about it. Your nickname the whole summer was Lil C's because of it. Oh my God, when you had a fucking full-blown motherfuckeran seashirt. Yeah, it's fine. I got MRIs and stuff.

I think I just fainted, but like I definitely can boast. Wait, remember when we were in a foursome couple? That was really fun. That was the best summer ever. Yeah. Yeah, was that? That was after senior year, right? That was, I think, our darkest summer.

Like, sophomore year, we were, like, cute and young and, like, working at Sambar, and we were, like, 19? 17. Yeah, 17. And then we were 19 at the last summer. Or no, maybe we were definitely of age at the last summer. I think we were 19 and then, like, 21, 22. But the last summer was, like, worse because we, like, had just graduated.

Like, I was nannying, and I forget what job you were doing, maybe salt. But, like, it was a full-blown, like, that was, like, most anxiety I've ever had in my entire life because we actually drank every day and we were hooking up with these two best friends which is by the way is the most fun thing ever like if you have the opportunity in college or whatever to like hook up with like best friends and like just like like have like a summer fucking rendezvous fling yes I remember because then I went back to school and I was like still hung up on JT and I had to like dump the other guy right you like broke his heart and then he like he went sober after and now he's married now he's married he's a nice guy

Okay, I also made, because it's going back to school season, this episode will be coming out. You know, at the end of August, the beginning, I thought we'd, like, talk about college dues and don'ts. And I'm going to say some do's and don'ts, and then you're going to be like, if you have anything to add, just let me know. Okay. Okay. First one is don't think your first friend group will be your friend group for college. I feel I agree with that I agree with that as well

I think it takes time to make friends and you should be open to everyone and then you'll fund your people Yeah I think it's rare almost to like have your friend group Like leak into like I mean we kind of got lucky But we all knew each other kind of before

Right But like once you can decide who you want to like live with And like you go classes And you have like different Dining Hall It's like a place to socialize Like you just meet people We went to a very small school too

Right But I also I feel like My first friend group was very much like my dorm. They were all like, Margo want to go to the laboratory with us in the morning. And Margo was like, has like nine guys in her bedroom, like thrusting her from all sides. She's like, no. That is not true, but I will say that I didn't have as much in common with my biochemistry classmates. So, Margo, can I knew your homework?

Can I borrow your molecules for again? Because Molluckew is currently in Tommy's asshole right now. But then I found you guys. So things evolve. Give it a year. That comes to the next one. Do eat in the cafeteria. Even though you will gain like 19 pounds.

Yeah. I look thicker by a freshman year. I think that was the heaviest weight I'll ever be. I mean, it's hard, I feel like not to gain the freshman 15. You want to. It's part of the thing. Yeah. You've like constant access.

Yeah. And like you're drinking. You're probably hungover, drunk eating. I would say do drink clear liquids instead of Svedka, Pink Whitney, all that fucking shit. Like, stay away from that shit. It won't help your hangover. And I trust me, you can't drink Pink Whitney after the age of 20. You'll die.

Sugary vodka is like... Is bad. Do not drink it. Drink kettle one. Don't drink Grey Goose because it tastes like fucking dog shit. Clip that. And like any clear tequila. Casamigos is also good.

in patrol next do find a party slash study bounds do you think I had that when I was cracked out on Adderall though I was locked the fuck in you can tear me away from the library I mean before finals we would be there like around the clock my jaw would be swinging from the adorobic obviously I want to be a scientist oh like run through a fucking wall during final season like literally we would be like this cracked out I couldn't feel my face I was numb from the waist up for matter all and then we'd like drive looking like this to get coffee or matcha we'd lose like 10 pounds in a week because we had no appetite yes i mean definitely find a balance i don't know if we had the best one considering like i would study four hours before my exam i passed but i had the same i like

figured it out by the time i was senior but there was some bio was not good at i got dean bio weren't that water class I took where I saved all my classes I had to take until senior year and I'd take all the hardest ones my last trimester Yeah don't do that Don't do that

Don't be a Hallie Get the Harvins out easy Get a good GPA freshman year Because that will set you up for success The rest of college Coast senior spring And you need that good GPA freshman year To get into a sorority

Do the things you want to do Go abroad Yeah I couldn't do any of that fucking hell all right next do remember that sometimes your parents are wrong yeah

yeah I feel like that that just applies to like everything in life honestly though but like I do I think what they mean here is like I just remember going to college and like my parents would just be like

pressing like their own experience on me I'm like you don't fucking get it it's my own experience mind a fucking business right and I feel like that's a chance to like actually discover like who you are and like with your own opinions and not just have to like you're out of the nest.

Believe everything that you've been taught your whole life. It's a chance to experience new things. It's definitely a transition but like a healthy one, a one that needs to happen. Yeah. Don't make your love, don't make love your priority. Like don't like go into college trying to like find a boyfriend or dick.

Unless like, I mean, do it over the fuck you want. I don't care. But like I would say don't. don't I would say go make friends have fun get blacked out make mistakes make lots of mistakes yes make all the mistakes you fucking can in college so like when you get into the real world you know what not to do make mistakes with men make mistakes with women make mistakes in class cheat on the like I mean to like do all the things in college and then you'll be good right I think it's great if it happens naturally that's fine but it shouldn't be your focus it's such

like a time of exploration like you need to you find some of your best friends ever that last you for life yeah like we're going to be at each other's funeral yeah you'll probably be at mine but yeah we'll see unless you get by a boss or something let's hope not that goes there next point don't lock yourself in your dorm unless like someone's trying to break in we live in a really sketchy area once a woman fully we live next to a halfway house and one of them randomly walked into our home thinking it was their own and I never forget I was sitting and all of a sudden she was like pull our phones out of her pockets she was like oh shit this is in my house I was like nope and I was like Polly she was nice she was very nice she left but

I'm like I don't even know if we locked their doors and like someone got shot on our street so we probably should have would get knifed remember Chad got a gun pulled on him when he was trying to get a ride home he thought it was his Uber he pulled out a gun he goes well I can do that in these parts and Chad was like what my name's Chad and like let's be real So don't go on alone. Have a buddy system. Yeah. Have a buddy system. If you recall, it's in a sketchy town. Do join an extracurricular. Even if that extracurricular is like you sucking your professor sideways, make sure you're doing something that's outside of your studies. What was yours? Probably tried out. I don't think I got that involved in clubs, but I feel like I have regret for not doing that. I think clubs and like sororities or sports. They're good for your resume. And just a good way to like meet friends, meet new people. Like I think that's the best way to meet.

Katie was an aquapella. I always thought that was cool. Yeah. Do get close to a professor, connections, networking. Yeah, get close to a professor. I do think, like, if your school offers, like, office hours or anything, that's, like, a great way to, like, build rapport with a professor, and that way they, like, know you're trying.

And, like, that can go a very long way, especially if you're struggling. Just, like, shows that effort, and then they get to know you. And can only do good things. I agree. I don't know anything about office hours, but like what she said. This goes my next one. Don't stress yourself about Greek life. I mean, honestly, me not getting into sorority, something to a fucking downward spiral.

It's all my friends got into fucking try it out. And I go, fine, I'll just go to rehab. That's literally how my mind worked. Do you remember that? Yes, but it was hard because, I mean, our school was such a small school. It basically was like if you went out and we're in like the social scene, like you joined a sorority or fraternity. and it, like, wasn't fair that you weren't able to apply. But that's why it goes back to, like, first semester.

Like, I don't know when we rushed second semester. But, like, get good grades so that you have the opportunities to do the things that you want. And we had only three classes per. We had it easy. Yeah. Honestly, some days I only had one class. Same. I was like, some days I had no class.

It was pretty chill. It was like Monday, Wednesday, Friday. We'd have, like, two or three classes a day. And then I had labs. I remember those long-ass two-hour classes, though. Those were tough. I had three-hour labs. Don't go to lab.

Don't be a science major. Okay, do change your major if it's making you miserable. You're not locked in. Yes. Did you ever change yours? I mean, no, I was biochemistry from the beginning. But you can major in literally anything and do whatever you want in life, honestly. Like, people are English majors and they're in finance.

People are English majors and they went to med school. Like, it truly doesn't matter. I mean, I think if you know what you want to do, that's great and do that. But if not, like, there's always time to pivot. I was a classics major, and I'm an influencer slash podcaster. So, yeah. What does that mean? I couldn't tell you shit about the Hellenistic era.

Do exchange numbers with the acquaintances in class. It might save you. I give your number to everyone. Yes, there's going to be times when you miss class. Do you need the notes? You need the notes. You can study together. I used to, like, befriend that, like, hot nerd.

And I'd be like, oh, my God. Same. Patty, I really need the notes from class yesterday. It was really sick. Will you tutor me? Yeah. I'm really struggling. Can I meet you in the library?

Can you explain me that fraction, that equation? I didn't get it. You had a hot nerd. I did. Tommy. Yeah. Is he a doctor now? He's in like Harvard residency.

Maybe we'll read about that. And he's fucking hot. He's going to be so rich. Never when I told him. we were lab partners and I told them that if we got an A. You'd suck them off? Things would end up for them. I was like, Tommy, you need you to work for this.

I'm putting it to work. You were selling your body for the A in the lab, final. I needed the A. You need the A for the GPA. You're like, I will suck the soul out of your body if you get these molecules in line. Yes. Write that. Find the nucleus now.

Exactly. There was already, you know, chemistry. It was just a little extra motivation. I remember you were blacked out and like he was selling like peanuts on you from beer garden and you were like pretending you were a shipper in there once? No, because I got literally carried out a beer garden that night. It was your birthday. Remember I fell asleep on the table.

That was fun. We should go back. That was, I think, my like 21st birthday. That was a fun fucking day. Okay. Don't think you need to have your life figured out by junior year. No, babe. We didn't have our life figured out until...

I sold all my shit figured out. Yeah. I mean, I'm getting better. I'm out. I'm chilling right now, loving what I do, but I couldn't, two years ago, I couldn't have tell you what I was doing. I was a hostess. Neither of us had jobs coming out of college.

We literally went to Nantucket. We were like, this is our last summer to, like, rip it. We had nothing figured out, but it was like the most fun. I don't regret any of it. We, like, lived there to our fullest and then, like, figured it out in September. But, like, there's always time. That was the craziest summer in my life. Yeah.

I wish we could have relived it. There was also that, remember that? Was it the same summer we did? that casting for the reality TV show on Nantucket. That could have really changed the trajectory of our lives. So me and Margo, we did

a full-blown casting with a green screen with everything and we're supposed to be like the summer house of Nantucket. Full production team, everything was locked and loaded and COVID it so it didn't happen. It was with Bravo. I think it would have come into fruition if COVID didn't happen. Was it with Bravo? It was Bravo.

Okay. We did the whole casting thing. We were casted. We were supposed to be there filming show but we didn't go in our fucking casting calls were the funniest I wish we could get them to date same they literally had us like they were telling us certain things to say but they literally were like be like we're the parasol and Nicole richie of nantucket yeah we're like we only use our daddy's black cards I still say this shit now but it was the craziest thing ever we're like we only fuck celebrities I don't know we went out with them though and that was even like more oh yeah these like two like

40-year-old woman. We like brought them to the chicken box. They were trying to like see like if we have the sauce. We brought them out. We're like on stage. We're like black out. We're like embarrassing ourselves like ruining our entire life. And then after that they're like, yep. They're like these girls are perfect. It would have been so good. Honestly, if they're watching this, hit us up because I'm still down to make a show. I still think we need a show. I still would love to do unscripted. Okay, last one. Do call your parents often. Yeah. They're worried about you. 100% and like it's a transition for them as well and it's just therapeutic and they want to know what's going on and it will relieve your own stress talk to your mom yeah and your dad yeah okay well

this was the first of many I think margles I've like as we're talking and sitting here right now like there's so many stories that come to mind we could probably go for five hours we could go for five hours and then I'd get canceled she'd get fired be a whole fucking thing honestly I'm worried about this episode a little bit because we just like I forget their cameras I know I feel like we kind of went into like a days. No, but like I love the days. Honestly, it was like a good catch-up, but now we're going to go get some sushi

and have like a proper catch-up where I tell you what's going on in my love life. I know. Maybe we should talk about that on the next episode. I don't know. Stay tuned. Stay tuned. But anyways, as always, guys,

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Wait, clip this. I love you so much, and I love you all. And I'll see you next week. Bezos. Bye.