Extra Dirty with Hallie Batchelder - Olivia Attwood on divorce, dating older & plastic surgery

Episode Date: April 9, 2026

OLIVIA ATTWOOD DROPS INTO THE BAR! 🤸‍♀️Hallie and Olivia talk about going out in NYC vs London, the unexpected firmness of fake t*ts, their recent thoughts on the fashion scene, feeling liberated after her breakup, NOT being into athletes anymore, and even opens up about the painful parts of her divorce... They dive into the dating app scene, the shocking content going down on OF, strip club cuisine, and then answer YOUR questions: dating rich men, beauty products, destination weddings and more! MUAHZ! 💋 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

No, like wine makes me really like loose. Yes, yes. Like that's the word, loose. Like I'm taking my top off at the table. No, yeah. I'm loose. Honestly, we should go out and drink some wine together. I feel like it would be like a nightmare duo

in the best way possible. Let's get extra journey. This week I have a beautiful guest from London. Everyone welcome, Olivia Atwood. Yay! Hey, my girl. How are you? I'm good, how are you?

I miss you. I haven't seen you in so long. I miss you. And I'm so gutted that we like didn't, managed to go out this weekend. I know. Next time, I'm going to message you and make sure you're actually here. No, next time.

I need to get to London too. Yes, you need to come to London. So you've had a heavy weekend, I've had a heavy weekend, but I've had a heavy weekend here. Should we talk about your heavy weekend first? Okay. What did you get up to? So we were out here with a group of girls from the UK. Actually, I didn't even plan it to be like this, but they were all love landers.

Yeah. And most of them were single apart from one. And then, and I'm obviously like newly single. And we were celebrating my River Island collection. And just took it too far. You took it too far? Went for dinner. I came in at 6 a.m.

Did you? That always happens. I feel like I never, I always take dinner plans way too far. There's like no such thing as casual dinners. I don't know how to casually drink. No, I don't either. I don't know what, like how people have like a glass of wine.

Yeah, there's no such thing. Did you like go out to like a club? So we went, is the living room? And then at the, it's like a loungey. The lounge. And then to a club, but I couldn't tell you the name of it. Like, you put a guy in my head. Yeah.

It was like, it was crap. But like, you know, it was like chasing the night. But we were like, to be fair, watching the videos back and we were laughing. We were having fun. Yeah. It was just a dump. Do you like the going on scene better in London or in New York? I think people can have more fun with themselves in New York.

I think London, I think a lot of people in London still take themselves a bit too seriously. I'm not sure fucking why because they've got nothing to be serious about. but yeah I think people are a little bit more fun in New York yeah I feel like is there like um curfews and stuff in London I think our alcohol like liquor license is like not as late as yours is it it's like two or three and then strip clubs are like till 6 am so that's like people was like why do you just go to trip clubs I'm like not for the strippers yeah like you know the thing about New York is like that's like the only thing we don't have like a good thing I feel like there's no good strip clubs okay there's a lot in London to be fair and then they're fun they're vibe we have the

here and you guys had the box in London, right? Yeah, you know I've never been to London? Have you never? Never. You would like it. And everyone's like, it's like the closest thing to New York and like... Yeah, you would like it. I think this like, like, East Coast to London is like this is similar vibe as you're going to get in America.

They have the same sense of humor. Yeah. The weather. Like, it just feels like a kind of... And the flight's not that long. It's only seven hours. Do you get like seasons there? Is that a super question?

We just have, it's just, well, to be fair, you guys actually get a summer. We're just, it's just miserable all. Miserable. the time. Yeah. And then we might get a week, which we call summer, where it's like as hot as the back of a television. Yeah.

And we have obviously no aircon because we're British. So, yes, it's fun. But when it does, when the sun does come out, it's like the whole city is like on crack. Yeah, that's kind of how it is here. Oh my God. People are like taking all their holiday in one week just because it's like the sun's out. No one.

It becomes like a national holiday. Yeah. If it's warm, I feel like everyone wants to be outside, drinking, like having a nice cold beer and like all that. Like, and pub gardens. which is a very like English British thing. Like a Beardin thing? Yeah.

And it is a vibe, to be fair. What's like your go-to drink order? I'm a vodka soda. They're in through. Like that's just like a skinny queen drink. Yeah, with like a wedge of lime, no cordial. Yeah. But like my favorite drink would be a wine or a rosé, but it just doesn't agree with me.

Why is that? They call it bitch juice when I drink it. I think I'm a vibe, but I, it's, I don't know. What do I get like grace? Just sloppy. No, like wine makes me really like loose. Like that's the word loose. Like I'm taking my top off at the table.

No, yeah. I'm loose. Honestly, we should go out and drink some wine together. I feel like it would be like a nightmare duo in the best way possible. We want to drink wine together. I can't drink gin. No, and I don't like a taste of it. It's too much.

I don't want to get down in a way. But they're selling about like, you know, gin reacts differently with everyone's body. And it makes some people sad. It makes some people sad. But like for me and my mom, like my side of the family, it makes us like really. angry and bitchy. Like, stay away from me if I'm drinking a gin martini. What's your drink? My drink a choice is an extra dirty martini. Yeah. Or those kind of get redundant, like too much. So sometimes I'll switch it up to like a cosmopolitan. My cocktail would be a Moscow mule.

A Moscow mule? Yeah. It's a vodka, ginger ale and lime. Yeah. That would be, if I was going to drink cocktail. It feels anything vodka-based. I do like a cosmo. Now and again. Yeah. If they're made right. If they're made, if they're made badly, they can taste like soap. So you have Olivia's house, your podcast, which I've been on. It was so much fun. How we're like the, what's the difference between like your UK guests and like the guest you are having in America? That's a good question.

I feel like I've been really lucky and like I obviously, you know what it's like you, you try and pick the guests that you think you're going to like align with and like having a conversation with. And all my guests so far have been really great. I think maybe in London they're a little bit more unfiltered, do you think? You were unfiltered, but you were always unfiltered. I mean, that was fun when I filmed that week in New York.

I want to do it again. Yeah, how many guests do you have on that week? We did like five. I mean, that's a lot. Yeah. That's a lot. And you come out with an episode every week, right? Come out once a week.

Yeah. And I do the odd solo episode, which I actually quite enjoy because I just like talk. It's like, I do a ton of solo episodes. Yeah, I'm like leaning to that more this series, because it's nice, like, not having to put pressure on yourself, one, to get a guest and just get a guest to the sake of it. Yeah.

And it's a nice way to, like, catch up with your audience and, like, update them. Yeah, and it's kind of therapeutic, too. Yeah. And just, like, talk to your week. But I don't think people understand, like, how much of a skill it is to, like, sit there and talk to no one for an hour and a half without getting anything back to bounce things off. Like, am I being funny? Is the message getting across?

Like, that's what makes it hard for me. Because, like, like, like, is it going to land right? But I want to do more of it. them. It's also nice just to sort of like just have verbal diarrhea for 45 minutes. Yeah. And you've kind of delved into the fashion scene a bit too, right? I take my tailworm. Yeah, I mean, you're dressed amazing right now. Tell them what you're wearing. You just told me how to say this. Courage. Courage. Corrage. Just like you. I think it's a faux level, a zip-up thing. Actually, this is a true.

Funny story. I had this shirt I wanted to wear this morning with these jeans and it's like a tight shirt with no bar underneath, like, nice cuffs. put it on as I'm about to go out the door like the three middle buttons just popped off it was like the start of a porno and I was like well at least that happened here yeah so then I had to grab this I was like luckily I had something spare ready to go

I was like okay I was like that was like a cartoon like you know like when this cartoon like looks at someone's shirt and like buttons pop and that's happened to be many times because of the fake tits they just pop they're just trying to explain someone like fake tits like they don't you can't compress them they are what they are they're kind of like solid You look big boobs, right?

Yeah. Come on. I mean, they look free. Thank you. I mean, I love a cosmetic procedure. So do I. So, yeah, so I had to go back in the room and just change into this. And then these are St. Laurent and the same of the shoes.

The jeans are St. Laurent? Yeah. Okay, so you're dressed to the nine. I like a label. I love a label too. I'm a label haul. What do you think about mixing labels? So I don't mind it as long as you don't see the labels.

Yeah, I doesn't say Acme Studios. So this is like, so this on the bottom has no labeling. So it's like, it's fine. But yeah, hate it. Pet hate is like mixing sportswear like Nike and Adidas. Yeah. Disgusting. Like or someone was like Adidas, like, adidas, like trap bottom.

Adidas? Adidas. Adidas? I'm obsessed with that. Adidas. But you're making it sound really German. It is German, isn't it? Is it?

Yeah. Adidas. That sounds cool. Okay, I'm going to start saying that Adidas. And then if they had like maybe a night, well, we say Nike. What do you say? Nike. Nike.

Yeah. Or a line them. Nike? Like trainer. I'm screaming. I'm screaming. In match. Matcha.

Yeah. Where do you think people dress better in New York or London? New York. Certain neighborhoods have different styles. Yeah. So it's nice that people watch. Like if you go into different neighborhoods and I think if you go into Soho and you see the way people dress, I think what's really hard, maybe here a little bit. I think he works.

I think here, like you were kind of saying, people just kind of, like, you can get away with so much here. Yeah. Whatever you have, as long as you're, like, strutting it, confident. I feel like the streets in New York are kind of like a runway in that sense. Like, but a lot of it's very personal style. Yeah, I think, and like London's different. If you go north to south, like how people dress.

So, but I think London and New York are good for like street style because people are like walking everywhere, like getting the tube, the subway, so that you can see a lot of fashion, which you don't get in LA. Yeah. Like LA, it's like... I don't like LA fashion, yeah. Is there a little fashion?

Everyone's like wearing aloe and like cute little sets and walking and hiking. Do you like LA? Could you live there? I think LA is just like so boring to me. And it's very like healthy. Lots of matcha. Like just very mucha. Like I just feel like everyone there is just like in a slower pace.

And you have to drive everywhere. Yes. And it doesn't feel that safe to me really either. for some reason I feel safer in New York. I feel safe in New York. I prefer safer at the moment in New York than I do in London, but I wouldn't take much for no. You don't really, people don't really walk around in L.A.

You don't have a car, you're kind of fucked. Yeah. But I don't mind visiting L.A. I mean. But also, it's not great for going out. No, no, no, no. Like, unless you get, you go to a party at someone's house. I think, like, COVID changed that a lot.

The last time I was there, for like, they shut, like, one? Yeah. I mean, that's kind of the same. I'm from Boston. Okay. And like the liquor laws and stuff there, like very strict. And everything ends at like midnight, one o'clock.

Which is like, what do you mean? That's what I'm just starting getting going to be. Yeah, no, you can't cut me off in my prime. No, you can't cut me off of my prime. What's like your ideal going out? You're newly single. What's been the vibes? Are you liking it?

Yeah, I'm liking it. Yeah, it's like freedom, right? It's freedom. It feels, I feel like liberated, but I actually have to be honest. I have not lent into my singleness at all really yet. I've done a lot of going out. I need to stop. Like I said to my,

literally was texting my friend, Mark before and I was like, and you can't, on Friday if you go out, I can't go to another fucking gay bar because I need to actually meet a man that wants pussy. I was like,

oh, just be going going and like working the pole and freedom every fucking weekend because I'm not going to get shagged. So I was like, yeah, so I need to lean into my actual singleness. Yeah. More and stay out of the gay bars

just for a minute. Like they always have my heart, but I'm not going to meet my man in there. No, that's kind of me. I feel the safest with the gay man. but like they're not going to get me late at all. Build your dream man.

Okay, so if you've got all my exes in a room, God, just imagine that room, sorry. They're all really different. But things I like is that like, like a guy that's got a cool sense of style, like he has a sense of self style. I like tattoos. I like a beard.

I like hair. Like I want like something I can like get my hands into. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like confidence, but like, I don't, I'm yapping enough for both of us. So I don't need to hear like, you don't need to be talking all the time. But also confident enough to like accept the fact that I don't shut the fuck up. Yeah. And also that they enjoy that.

Because I do, but I mean, I found a couple that enjoy it. And then what else? Do you think you would prefer a guy that would be like more like lay low instead of like a camera forward? Like, do you? Yeah, I don't think. Do you care? If I met someone and they were in like this industry, then fine. And maybe they'd be pros to that because they might understand better.

But it's not what I'd look for. I'd rather they like do their own things separately. Because I think that can create its own issues in itself. Yeah. And also I kind of think like guy, I mean, can you imagine like, I don't know, I don't want to be horrible. But can you imagine a guy like and he's doing, he's like, get ready's with me? No, because I have this problem where I hook up with a lot. They're so sexist.

Oh no. And I'm like, babe, if you have an octobody, do you know like the sticky thing where you put it? I'm like, if you have a ringlight, yeah, like that, I'm dry immediately. No, I know, that's the thing. And that sounds so out of order to say that. Imagine like, imagine your man being like,

can you take some, like, photos of me like across the street? Yeah. And I always see guys thirst traps. And you look at them and you're scrolling and you're like, oh yeah, fuck, it's really hot. And then you think about the fact of they filmed that and someone had to fill it. And then you're like,

No, it's too much And I have this problem where I keep, because that's like the circles I hang out with There are a lot of these, you know, influencer guys But once I woke up with a guy in my bed and he was like, I have so much work to do today I have to do a voiceover and I was like, get out of here, yo, what are we doing? Imagine I have to do a voiceover. No, run for the hills. I mean, I like, I've always liked footballers.

Is that where we kick it? Yeah. It's kick it. Because here it's, you throw the football. No, no, no. It's way less contact. It's in fact, if they make contact with each other, they like start crying.

Really? Yeah, it's like, it's like, it's bad. What's like the wags? It's like, you were like a wag. Yeah, kind of like of a type. But I always was attracted to footballers because of like the sportiness, other way they look.

But I think athletes across the board, I'm going to try and like hard band myself from. Yeah. Because I think they're like, it's not all of the mixed sections, but they're pampered in a way that you have to kind of like live for them. Yeah. And that their whole, like, you know, people that are proper wax.

That's like, that's their whole life is just like supporting this guy. It's like you have no identity, really. I couldn't spend every weekend again in a stadium. No. And like they have too much access to other people. They're on a pedestal and they know it. It's a lot of like narcissism that goes on to that. Have you feel like a lot of people have been weighing in on like the breakup and stuff like how do you shut that noise out?

It was like it was an onslaught like I don't know how much you know about the British media but they go hard. Yeah like while like we have like tabloid press like it's a slight different culture to the states from what I understand but it was pretty heavy the first few weeks and then obviously people wanting to know but like you know what it is like where I normally run my mouth constantly I was like really conscious of like not saying too much too much too. soon because I actually was trying to work out. I'm still trying to work out exactly how I feel about everything and what I want to say. And I haven't officially spoken about it on record because I'm like, I don't want to, once I say something is out there and I can't take it back and I'm just kind of figuring out what I want to say. But it was tough, but at the same time, this is like part of my job.

Yeah. It's like I always knew, you know, when other things have gone on in my life, people, you know, are used to a certain level of access to you. And that's why provided that, like, through reality TV, like, through my socials, like, people have always had that access. Of course, they're curious. I don't, when people break up that I follow, I'm like, tell us what fucking happened. Now, you want to go, respect up privacy. I'm like, fuck you.

I've watched all your fucking YouTube videos. What privacy? You're giving me the details. Literally, especially. So I get it. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, especially in the, you're in like the reality TV verse.

And I feel like you've had a million different products like that. Like Brad and I filmed our wedding. We had a show about it. So it's like, come on exactly and be like, please, I'm shy. But respect to privacy. Please. Leave it alone. So I get it.

But also, I'm sort of standing my ground. But like when I figured out, when I've kind of processed everything that's happened and I want to talk about it, I will. But I'm just like, binding my time. Do you think people are being like harder on you or harder on him? Harder on me? Yeah, they're always harder on the fucking girl. Oh, my God.

I've had like, well, I mean, I don't know, actually to be fair. That's probably a bit unfair to me to say. I don't know how people have been towards him. I can only see what I've had because people just like to give women a hard time. And someone wrote me on my TikTok yesterday when I was like with the girls in New York having fun. And she was like, I really hope someone screws you over so badly. Like you're such a cold, like calculated bitch. And I thought, do you know what it is?

It's like, because I'm open. Yeah. I talk about all kinds of things, but I'm not gonna video myself crying and put it on the internet. I'm just fucking not. Doesn't mean I don't cry. Yeah.

I fucking have cried. I've cried so hard, like during this breakup to the point by fuck I'm gonna pass out. Yeah. And then I would like slap myself out on the face and go to work. But these people,

they're so huge. They want to see you like suffering. I'm like, I'm not like literally, literally suffering and picking myself off the floor and going, oh wait, hold on. Yeah. Like, I'm just not. They want.

They're used to that from some creators and they want that. And that's just not who I am. When creators do that, no shade, no hate, but I just feel super inauthentic and, like, for click sometimes. It's just not, like, me and my sister always have, this is not being, like, shaming to anyone because being emotional as hell for my sister always, like, to each other, cry inside like a winner.

Yeah. Like, I don't need to be crying on the internet. Like, I just, yeah, I don't think that people, you know, professionally are going to respect me and book me to host their TV shows when I'm videoing myself lying on the floor crying. Yeah, I just kind of, yeah. No, it just seems like, it's not the vibe that I'm trying to keep up. But I can also like be candid with people and tell them I'm having a good time.

Good time. I'm having a bad time. But I, yeah. And also it's like sometimes like this is my job. Like I have, you know, this stuff I've had to do. I had to promote, you know, TV shows. I had to promote like collections all in the weeks of that breakup when it was literally happening in real time. there's so many other people that affect

if I decide to not go and turn up to the screening of a TV show like it's only me that's the host there's like a 200 crew that worked on that show there's like the cars so what am I going to do go oh I can't come and do my end of the deal because I've had a breakup it's not fair

yeah like life continues to move on it life goes on yeah and honestly I feel like the busy you are this is how I am in breakups honestly like the busier I keep myself and distracted like the more I can just like put those feelings I put them in box and I'm like, all right, I'll get to the box later. And then that box seems to like shrink over time.

I don't know if that's like the healthy way to deal with your feelings, but that's how I do it and it works for me usually. I'm the same. And when I was out working all day, I felt okay. And then when I got home and it was on my own, I'll be like, oh, like now it's hitting me a little bit. Yeah. And then yeah, I don't think, I don't think there's a right or wrong way. Because I think when you're in like a real trenches of like a proper breakup, I

always think you're just surviving. Yeah. So like whatever you need to do to get yourself through the other side of the tunnel, I don't if there's a right or wrong answer. Do you think this has been your toughest breakup today? Oh, yeah. Because this relationship's like, you know, spans over a decade on and off.

So it's like it's such a big area of my life. And I think that when you know you tried, we both tried so many things to make it works. Of course, it's just so sad. Yeah, it's sad. And also it's like, this is why I've not rushed to say anything because it's like you can, I can still acknowledge the fact that I like him

and I love him as a person, like those things can still be true while knowing that it's ran its course. I think it would be easier if I hated him, which I don't. I think the breakups arrived just like, you know, they haven't been such serious relationships. They are easier. Yeah. And I feel like when you're going through like a public breakup,

people just like want to pick a side. They want to get like every side of the story. And you're right. They want to do like, you don't want the human that experience of like, you know, they used to watch people get hung in like a square. I thought that's what they want. They want public commulation. Yeah, they want to watch like the gory details.

It's really fucked up. Are you like a comment reader, like a DM reader? Like I sometimes dive in. No, no, I miss quite a lot. I mean, on the whole, I'd say my like pages are like positive. I have the best people on my accounts. And like I'm on the whole, yeah, feel like I don't have that many assholes. But of course, like, some always slip through the cracks.

Yeah. I also think I just kind of like let them go for it as well. I don't have really have that much of an issue with hate comments. I actually sometimes think they're really funny. Sometimes I read a hate comment. I think that was actually so beautifully written. You're actually wasted on being a troll. Because you could do sand up.

You're like kind of smart. I'm not like that's like, wait, that kind of fucking eight. No. I'm like kind of want that on a t-shirt. No, yeah. No, like for me, like when I first started social media, like people used to clock me for like the way it looks. They would call me like handsome squid word.

And I'll be like all these comments. like wait they kind of ate but they also kind of me like help me look in the mirror and be like wait I should get this done and this done and now I feel like I'm a hotter person because of those trolls yeah that's kind of how I see it you're like you're like you're like you're called out like my filler and you're right yeah I got it to solve like I'm yeah you do look really fresh I have to say when I came in here earlier I was like you look so like you really yeah you do look gorge especially after my bender weekend you don't know like you've had a bender weekend really because I'm like sore every part of my body oh my god and wait how's how bad like

like bad. Like you enjoying being single, bad. I enjoyed being single with a couple people. And I'm scared about it. Why was I not in Texas? We really need to have a proper night out together. If we're in London, I'll come to London next time. Yeah.

What would be like your ideal night out? We start like, I always like to try and start like a little bit early because like you say I thought the nights go so quick. It's like start at one of the hotel bars. Like one sort of like we start trying to. civilized somewhere that's like I've got a good vibe kind of like I like to get a little bit dressed up for going out not like anything crazy people in London don't get overly dressed up anymore it's a bit boring and then go for dinner somewhere in the west end Mayfair like a big

group dinner and then I like there's are a handful of clubs I like now I'm leaning back into my clubbing area and then we go to strip club so is this like next air of your life going to be like a lot more like going out and stuff I to be honest my I don't know how it could be any more going out a lot the last year I know but like you're not going to I always tell people that tell me I go out too much that I'm like I'm not going to meet anyone sitting inside no I know I know do you do dating apps yeah for like the fake ones like Raya yeah are you on Raya no I'm not on any yet what one are you going to go back on one I don't I've never wait I've never been on a dating up this is like Bible truth because I've never so because I think like if I think about

what the single times I had I was I dated Brad this is like 10 years ago date of Brad then I went on Love Island. Then I was like with the guy from Love Island for like a hot minute. And then I got back with Brad. And I think that like that was when it was like people would all the apps were like popping off. And I just, so I've never had a period of time where like I was going to go on an app. When I was in New York over the weekend, one of the girls was like, I'm going to download Hinge. Um, is that, I don't know that's a good one. Hinge is like one of the better ones. And then she was like, we should make you one. I was like and then I was going and then someone And I was like, no, don't, because it was to get screenshotsed and put in the press straight away.

I'd be like, you've just left the UK so that we didn't. But I would like to experience it. I honestly think the best. But you see people's, like, what's on there and it's slim pickings. They all kind of gay. They all kind of gay, especially right. They look like AI or not straight. And I feel like if someone really, like, clapped, like, tried to message maybe insulting.

I think that, yeah, I sometimes like, you really thought. But, like, I honestly think Instagram is best eating out. That's what I would, that's how I think that someone would slide into my DMs, then I'd probably be like, okay. All right, do you get a lot of DM slides? Do you know what? There's the only thing with having, like, an active profile. I feel like I'm missing a lot of the good ones,

but I've had DM slides. There have been blue tics, but there's been no one that I'm excited. Well, now that you can buy the fucking blue tick, it's like, I don't even know what we're doing here. I look and I'm like, yeah. Wait, tell me about bad boyfriends. Okay. So like the concept? Yeah, like, I want to hear it.

I wanted to like also did it like affect your dating life at all like looking at all these guys with red flags. No, I tell you what affected my day. So basically, okay, I do like a bunch of shows in the UK and I do a show called Getting Filthy Rich, which is basically like a factual entertainment documentary where I meet girls who are on only fans. Like I meet escorts, strippers, anyone that's making bank for the sex industry. I go and meet them and interview them, been to like Vegas, LA, like anyone that's making the big bucks. And when I spoke to them, like all these different women from all around the world, world, that started to peck with my head when I'd leave filming and go home because they would

just be like, the guys on their profiles are spending sometimes like 10,000 pounds on them a month, $10,000. They have wife. They have kids. They have these, like, insane fetishes that their partner knows nothing about. And I kind of came to this conclusion and we was actually having this conversation yesterday at dinner that I said it, I will generalize it. I think it is more of a straight man thing that so many straight men have.

like completely hidden size their lives. Yeah. Their partner just never knows about. Whereas I thought women are a lot more, we're a lot more open. Like we love someone dating them. Like what you see is what you get. Like women aren't going off to like higher escorts.

Like very rarely. Like do you not even behind their husband's back or like having the same festures that they're like keep a secret. Whereas a lot of straight men do. And it's kind of like, how well do you ever really know the person you're like lying next to? And I was with sweet to these girls. And I'd be like, that's not.

so someone's actual husband is like doing this and they have no idea. It's like really scary. It's scary. That and on the flip side of it, a lot of these married men being on Grindr too. Have you heard about this? Do you know what Grindr is? I know what Grindr is. And my gay friends.

Grind up. My gay friends tell me stories about grinder hookups that actually like make, makes me chills. Like I have gay friends that have like been invited around for like a quickie and then they go in to this guy's land. and it's like the family portrait up on the floor, like the perfect family and like a suburban area and then he's like getting bent over like the couch and then bye. No, it's insane. And you know like grinders by proximity.

So it's like location. My best friend, Gredin, who's gay, we'll go out in Niantucket and like one of our favorite things to do is like, well, like go to a restaurant. There's all these like families sitting around, whatever, and you'll open grinder and like recognize all these men with wives and children in the room. in the room, like a majority of them, honestly.

It's really, really crazy. No, it's a lot. It's scary. It's really scary. So, yeah, just straight men in their, like, secret lives. Yeah, so did you interview anyone fun for that? So the girls were amazing. Is it, like, anonymous or, like, you would just sit down with them?

So I meet the content creators, like, and I meet the girls have the only fans' platforms. And then sometimes I'd meet, like, the old subscriber, or like someone in a strip club who's like, you know, like a customer, but it's so hard to get people on camera, obviously, the other side. Like a Bonnie Blue? I met Lily Phillips. Lily Phillips, yes. And she's like, you know, kind of similar to Bonnie Blue and what they've created.

Yes. And Lily's really, like, she's really sweet. Like when you meet her, like, she's not, like, she's a nice girl, but what she does is crazy. The stuff Bonnie was on a run. Like, she was on a tear. Lily Tobb, when I saw the other week, she'd just done, like, a hundred anal in a row. She did a hundred anal in a row?

Mm-hmm. Oh, my God, that would create a tunnel on my ass. We can't. I'm like, the most constipated girl. Like, that'd probably help clear me out. Yeah. I'm like, I've been in three days in New York and I haven't even had a shit.

I'm like, can you imagine? They'd be a very short cue. No, it's because you're traveling. But the first one can't get it in. Yeah. I'm just backed up. Why would you sign up for that? Is she getting paid to do that?

Yeah, I mean, well, she creates the content and then she, yeah, she puts it out on these, like, sites and then that's how she gets the money. And then I guess, like, by doing, they kind of, it's like rage bait, isn't it? The more shocking the content is that they put out, then obviously she gets more known, more people come to her own fans,

more people like, look her up on porn, like, yeah, it's like a whole, like, cycle of basically getting people's attention. but it's fucking crazy. I know, but just for money or for... Yeah, no, like... Well, she... Lidie's like, she says she enjoys sex, obviously, and she's like, you know,

but I think you can... Yeah, it's for money, isn't it? Yeah. She's making bank. With, like, a thousand guys in one day, there's no way, like, it felt okay after number five. Horrendous. It's too much.

Actually, I couldn't be, like, a sex worker because I just don't really enjoy seeing men happy. I know, like, why are we giving them the satisfaction? Like, if I was a stripper and I just saw a guy having the best time, I'd be like, I'm done. Give me your money on bed. Like, what are that fucking smile off your face? Wait, I love that. You love the strip club so much.

Love strip club. Have you been to Miami? Yes. Do you, like, 11? Yeah. Have you been in Vegas? A lot. Sapphire.

Have you gone a white horse? Or what's your rhino? Right. Experiment Rhino. It's actually shut, I think, last time I was there. because I just went and filmed for the show and one of the spirit of runners is shut has been to Sapphire. I've been to Sapphire, yeah.

Like, the biggest one in the world apparently. I think I have one in New York, but it's not as good here. It was, they're so, so good. Yeah. I just, yeah. I just, like, love strippers, like, talking to them. Love strippers, they're so fun. They're always, like, actually the coolest girls.

Yeah. And you can drink all night. And sometimes the food actually slaps. No, the food steaks. Like, there's, like, the strip, there's one on 13th here, and it's like a really good steakhouse, but also the ship club. Exactly.

Like, what more could you want? Once I was in Vegas and I was getting a lap dance and she was, while she was giving me a lap dance, she was telling me how she wanted to get into real estate and all this. And my dad's in real estate, so I gave her my dad's email. And I was like networking for this girl. I bet your mom was so great for that. Yeah, that was like my bad.

Like I don't even know if she reached out. You're like, by the way, a stripper's going to call you tomorrow. Jessica might be hitting you up for a job on Monday. Thank you. Okay, want to get into some listener questions from girls? These are just fun and cheeky and like people say really absurd shit sometimes. And then we can just like chat about them, I guess. Let's see what they say.

Okay, so this girl goes, I'm in a happy, healthy, loyal, loving relationship, but my man isn't as rich as I'd hope. What do I do? Oh, God. I mean, if you care about money that much in a man, which I'm not cheating anyone that does, and this is not the right man for you. Yeah, I think you need to make a decision of like, yeah, what's more important? Because it sounds like, I think if she was that in love, she wouldn't be.

I'd be thinking like, how can we just get richer together? Yeah, like grow together. But I think if that's what she's thinking, then she probably isn't for her. Yeah. I think work ethic is more important than like actually. Hustle and drive and like hunger. ambition then like because how many people how many people have become successful later in life but like has he got has he got it in him yeah and i just feel like there's so many men out there that

probably do so like why waste your time i am like i don't have time for that there'll be other nice guys um what's a beauty and health product you swear by oh i've been using this like in beauty product moisturizer that just like makes my skin look like glass your skin does it gorge i'd never sleep in my makeup. I try not do it, sometimes I have a messy night. Like I wake up with the full beat. I wake up,

sometimes it might even be one half of my face, the face lights might be on the pillow. They try not sleep in my makeup. It's so boring, but SPF. SPS. Especially if you're getting your Botox and fillers. I got sun poisoning the other day,

or the other week in Miami. Do you mean like sunstroke? Is that what you call it, sun poising? Like sun, yeah, sunstroke, same thing. What did you burn it? I was, I'll show you my chest, or I'll pull it down. Oh my gosh.

No, you're going to upset me. That's like a third degree then. Yeah. How did you not feel that? I was on antibiotics for a UCI. Oh no. And they said, whatever you do, don't go in the sun. And the next day, went to my Emmy and I was on a yacht.

So I peeled, and on the fifth day, I peeled, and it was fresh skin, and then I was out in the sun all that. With no uspia. Howdy, that's so bad. I see it like I'm proud. I don't know why I was saying it. Like, I'm most proud of it. I know. Now my mom says, I probably have skin cancer.

No. No. But don't do that anymore because you are going to like tempt it. Yeah. Okay. Do you go overwhelmed when talking to more than one guy at a time? No. Like that's when I'm in my flow state.

No, because you can't like, you can't like give it all to like one guy. You have to, can't put all your eggs in one basket. No, I like to have a couple. I've had me single for ages, but this is how I was when I was single. And this is how I hope I am. imagine I'll be. I like to have like a couple on the bench. Do you know why it is? Because then if one starts to disappoint you a little bit or kind of like, I don't know, it's not giving you what you need. You're kind of like, yeah, I've got like, you know, other guys that will do it.

Yeah, I like to have a little, little roster. Yeah. As long as they're not in the same friend group, I feel like no way with it. They need to be very far. They need to be like three to four like state, like phase of life removed. So they could never possibly. Do you care about age? No, well, listen. I think you need like someone that's a little bit older than interesting. Okay, so I've never, this is like, I think this could be like a bit of a sign for me. I've never dated anyone older than me, always younger.

Oh, babe, that's what we're doing wrong. Like I said to my team, I said, if you even catch me like fluttering my eyelashes at a 25, I'll smack me in the face because I am actually all, how can it? Does this sound weird? So you're drawn to younger guys, but not like young. They're more energy. I just like the like, I don't know, I guess I just like the fun aspect. Like, and I get drawn in.

Like they keep you young in a way, kind of like you feel like young spirit. I feel like I'm very young in my, how I feel, in my head, like when I'm, you know, people who work in my team who are like 20, 21, I'm like, we're the same age. And they're like, no, we're not. But yeah, so like I get drawn. But yeah, I would like to this time look a little bit older. Yeah. Like, I don't know how old exactly.

What so is the oldest you've had? Like mid-50s. Fuck, really? Yeah, but like, I wouldn't do that regularly. Are the balls saggy? Aren't they always, though? Just like, in your face, like, get out of here. But yeah, I don't want, like, I wouldn't see a future

with someone that's in their 50s because I have kids. Yeah. I don't want them to be like. No, I think for me, like, I'm in my early 30s. I feel like someone early 40s. would be good and like that's when guys are the hottest and also apparently they that's when they actually reach emotional maturity and brother yeah i think that's when they're front to lobe fully yeah like 40 yes so obviously that's like what are we even doing trying to settle down with

men in their 20s that that's actually like funny well i always say that men are emotionally seven years younger okay so like if you're dating someone the exact same age as you just there's seven years younger yeah so you have to go older and then hopefully they build like land maybe where your brain's at. That's what I think. Yeah. Okay, tips to not be too much in your head when he's going down on me. I don't care.

I don't care. I don't think like. I know. I'm not really in my head ever about anything. Don't really there. I am. I think me and you are the same. So we're probably like the worst people to try and relate to that. But like, you know, I speak to people and they're like,

I was dating this guy and I didn't. like shit for like a month. I'm like, I never just like you get up at a guy's house next day and I don't yeah, like I don't think they care either. I don't care like I know I've yeah I've always been very comfortable with myself. I just think like just don't if you're thinking like that just he's so excited to have his head between your legs like he can't believe like he's won the fucking lottery so it's so happy to be there just yeah I don't even worry about it if he didn't also if he doesn't

want to be down there he's gonna come back up yeah and then maybe you need to do a pH check. And then you might have BVie. If you're sticking around down there, like, for a while, you're good. Okay, who is your celebrity crush at the moment? You can't help answer that. Like, I don't really get celebrity, but I think, like, celebs are hot.

Like, the own games. I think he's married. You won't know who he is. You're going to die when I say this. I think this is because I'm trying to think about the kind of guy that I'm going to go for. Yeah. Do you know what Eddie Hearn is?

Eddie He's a boxing promoter. He's a boxing promoter. Yeah, from the UK. I think he's, ooh. He's, it's his personality. Perfect. Oh, wait, this is the kind of guy I see you with. Yeah.

And he's like, got confidence, but it's not like, it's not. Like, this is what she needs. Oh, shit, I didn't see those ones. Fuck. Hey, Daddy. Wait, he's hard. This is going to be so fucking viral on the UK. Yeah, so that's the kind of, like,

age sort of like he's got like you know established like that's how hard he is oh yeah you get it yeah so this is like i think we're at the same type now that i'm looking and then i also have this other side of me that sees like like shy should you say shia leberth or shy laburf shaya shia shah i like i kind of have this thing where i look someone like i think i can save you i have that complex too where i'm like i'm the exception to whatever your fucking fuck Do you see him running around in like, where was he recently? No Orleans. Yeah, and I was like, oh, babe.

Yeah, he was having a moment. His father, his father says probably doesn't love him right now. I read it something that he walks like, like 10 kilometers the next day to a coffee shop. Is that a lot? How much is 10 kilometers? Yeah, that would take you like two hours.

That would take us two hours. My lungs would cave often for us too. No, I would pass out. What's your goals, work, romance, routines, etc.? That's kind of a loaded question. Jesus. Is this my mom? Work I'm really happy with everything.

Everything's going the way that I want it to. I mean, I guess now I'm just like, I want to enjoy being just me on my own for a bit. And like have the best summer. Like, and right now my focus is summer. Yeah. It's about to be. Do you have summer plans? I have so many summer plans.

Leon, can I come? Ibitha, Sanctuary, Cannes. What else we booked? Vegas. Miami and May. Miami and May. I'll be in Miami and then. I'll send you to Voste and you come.

Are you going to F1? Yes. I'll be there. I'm scared for us. No, that was really scared for us. We're having an 11 night together. Okay, done. And we're going to see Spice and Kiki on the river.

This is gonna be good. It'll be really good for us, I think. Would you rather have... So if he's like having a publicist in the corners, she's just checking her own pulse. She's like, is it hot in here? She's like, I don't know who would stop talking. Would you rather have a three, someone, two guys?

or a guy and another girl. Have you ever? No. Really? No. That shocks me from you. I know. I've come, like, very close.

Like, when I say, I've never had, like, full sex threesome, but if I, do you know what, they're not my thing at all, but I think, I don't know. Maybe two, maybe two guys. Really? I don't know, actually. No, a girl and a guy. Yeah, I think a girl and a guy. I just feel ganged up on.

One of my straight male friends, he always, like, he tells me. be stories about stuff and he's like he had a threesome the other week and the girl was in the middle and then him and his guy friend locked eyes over her and they both just started laughing because obviously like looked at each other and then obviously I was like imagine being her and they're like oh and they're like they're both like cracking up no no okay I just feel like it's also like a bit oversimulating because you're getting like eyeball towered like have you done both no I've only had because it's just like less oversimulating for me. There's pieces.

There's a lot of pieces. Like there's just, you're like kind of like a hole if two guys are there. You're like a connecting tunnel. I feel like I'd be getting like stuffed like a turkey. Then like you're not giving good head if you're getting stuffed like a turkey from behind. Yeah, no. Yeah. I don't know why I even hesitated on that.

My friend kicked me off her bat because she wanted us to pay for everything and I asked why. Okay. I, we could do a whole episode on like wedding and like Hindu bachelor at culture. Yeah. Because obviously I've done it. And I have. I have such mixed feelings on it. I paid for almost,

I paid for everything on my Hendo apart from maybe flights. But I think it depends the financial situation you're in, but then I think also if you can't financially contribute to the Hendo, you need to be like,

conscious of what you're asking of your bridesmaids or your friends. Don't be like, you know, some people say, all year to go on holiday, they have limited time of work. Don't be like asking your friends to fly to Thailand.

Do you know what I mean? Like, B, don't be a selfish bitch. Yeah. You know, and I think, I don't think you can, people fall out of this shit all the time and don't get me started on destination weddings. Yeah. I don't want to fly 10 hours to watch you get married. I'll do a destination bachelor at party, but like a destination wedding is a lot. But then like you have money. So it's like, you know, you think like people that don't, it's like they might not want to spend their money

to go on someone else's head and been told, you have to wear a blue bikini today and go to this fucking crap restaurant. Yeah. And you have to pitch in for the boat and you have to pitch in for the house. Yeah. So I feel like I wanted to cover as much. much as I, yeah, as much as I could. But I think it's messy. Yeah. Where did you get married? I'm going to lope next time. Um, in London, in the Bulgari hotel. Oh, nice. It was gorgeous, actually. What did you get married again? To that guy. To that Eddie. Daddy, yeah, daddy. I'm so sorry. I think he has a wife. I'm re-apologous. Does he? Oh. Oh. Boarding school. You kill me.

Oh, okay, wait, this is kind of a rogue one. Have you ever not fucked because you haven't shaved? I already know the answer to this for you, I feel like. I hope you have still done it. I feel like I don't care. I don't care. I would avoid having sex with like full, hairy growler, but a little bit of regrowth. Yeah.

Full bush is crazy. Also, it depends how long you are into dating someone. If it's the first time, you want to make a bit more of a good impression. Yeah. But also, some men do like her. Yeah. back in fashion. Yeah. Do you care if a guy is like a full bush?

I would rather it's trimmed. Yeah. I like sure, but not wet shaved, bald. Because that knocks me sick. It makes me a porn. It makes you think why don't you have a single pub? Like I think I want it to be like shaved like short.

I don't want anything stuck in my teeth but I don't want like I don't want you to bick shaved. Yeah. That's it. Oh yeah. It's just like too soft and you can see like I like a bit of hair. Yeah, like a hairy chest. Yeah, okay.

But like trimmed. Yeah, I feel that. Okay, this girl goes in love with one of my best friends. Is there a way of moving on without ending the friendship? She's in love with him? Yeah. I think you just create some space, honestly. I'd love to have you on.

You should just become a permanent co-host. Oh, I'd love that. I'm gonna come back to Newark more. And then we're gonna have the summer now. And I'm gonna have Miami in May. I'm scared. But thank you so much for coming on. Thank you for having me.

This is a fucking vibe. I love you. All right, guys. Love you all and I'll see you next week. Bye.