Extra Dirty with Hallie Batchelder - Smashing and crashing out on camera... *ft. Kaylor Martin*

Episode Date: October 8, 2026

It's Kaylor baby!!! Kaylor Martin joins the XD bar to chat her first private jet *incident* and her friendship falling out with Liv after Love Island. Kaylor shares the story of getting cast on Love Island, how she lied on the application, and how everyone really *does* want to go on reality TV for some followers... Hallie and Kaylor talk about their cosmetic work, the Love Island fanbase, and how the villa is actually *disgusting*! Kaylor talks about the dissolve of her Love Island relationship and how she is expecting a ring from her boyfriend in 2027... Hallie and Kaylor wrap up with a game of Crash Out or Carry On... muah!! 💋 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

And I'm sitting there, I'm actually laying on live. And I just let out a little toot. The toot was a chart. It was a charred. And I sharded. I pooped my pants. Yeah, there was a stench. Let's get Extra Dirty.

Okay, guys, welcome back to Extra Dirty. We have Keeler Martin on today. Yay. We're just like waking up. Yeah, we're just like, it's good morning for me right now. No, it's good morning for me too. I wake up at 11 a.m. every day. No, I'm not an early riser.

Like, I see these girls like, spend the day with me and go to Pilates. I'm like, bitch. No, like, matcha, not in my resume. I, like, dream to have that life and be a clean room. You wake up late? Every day. Yeah, this was early for me, too. I saw this on the schedule and I was like, damn.

Like, I thought you scheduled this. I was like, wow, early riser. I don't think I've ever had an 11 a.m. recording. Oh, bitch. In my whole entire life, I'm not even kidding. Unless it was like on a Sunday morning. where I'm like hung over and I like can be hung over for the recording or it's just like me. Yeah.

But now I have to be like alert. I haven't like filmed a single pod yet. I'm a little worried about that. You haven't filmed single pod? What do you mean? Like just on my own. You have never gone on a podcast? No, no, no.

I have. No, I mean like on my podcast, like I haven't just like been like, okay, let's shoot the shit. No, you haven't done a solo. Solos, yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, they're like kind of low key hard. Yeah. Talking to the camera for like an hour with no one reacting to you.

I find to be like the hardest, but it's kind of therapeutic because then you start to, like, do you ever talk to yourself when you're home alone? Yeah, all the time. Like, you kind of like walk through your arguments and you tell, I like, oh, and you learn things about yourself and then it's like, you need to give me tips. It's therapeutic. I'm the most unorganized podcast host. Okay, let's start. Where do we start? I feel like, should we go back where we met? No, yeah. Where did we meet? We met right after you, like, you were like fresh out the villa. Fresh out the villa in a different country, I think. We met in Australia, right? on like the first ever pepper mayo brand trip which was a time yeah i think it was hammered every night

everyone was every morning i didn't care about like posting i didn't care about like making content yeah we're in australia and we're on a brand trip was that like your first brand thing ever ever yeah like i went on like a little brand trip but that was like the big one like different country like my first time ever flying first class can we talk about how we're on like a PJ every day every day and like, I don't know who organized this trip, Pepper Mayo, we love you, but like every morning we were waking up moving to a different fucking city in Australia. I was like sharing my suitcase with, I remember like I couldn't have two suitcases on the PJ. Oh, yeah. Well, like some people couldn't. I feel like like you guys could for some reason. Yeah. There felt like there was some

favoritism. Oh, there definitely was. There is a little romance going on in that trip. No, there was. That was a wild trip. Yeah. We'll talk about the PJ. Oh my God. Shut up. So, okay. Hallie and I and Liv, we had like such a fun night.

And the night before we get on PJ. This is my first ever private jet experience. We were loving it. But I'm so hungover. I just throw my white pepper mayo sweatpants on with no underwear. And I'm sitting there. I'm actually laying on Liv. And I just like let out a little tut.

The toot was a chart. It was a charred. And I sharded. I pooped my pants and I was so embarrassed. Everyone was like, ooh, what's that smile? I'm like, I don't know. Like, someone's to be blowing up the bathroom. I'm like here with these influencers that I've watched all my life.

Like, I knew who you were like before I went on Love Island. I knew who acquired style was, Lauren Wolf. Like I was a consumer of TikTok. So I'm like fan girling while I'm on this trip. And I'm like, oh my God, my first brand trip, my first PJ. and I sharded my fucking pants. I was too embarrassed to even tell Liv when we were on the plane because I was like, she cannot laugh, she can't do anything.

So I have my white sweatpants on, and I had like this little bag, like my carry-on where I had like these cheetah shorts. So I run to the bathroom. Oh my God. They had like washcloths in there. And I get it wet. I like clean myself up.

I throw it away. And I put on the cheetah shorts. And I had to stuff my white socks. sweatpants in the garbage of the PJ. So now we're just sitting there in the fill. Yeah, there was a stench. And everyone was like, who's blowing it up right now? Like someone, I'm like, just, yeah, like, that's terrible.

You were like, it must be, it must be, it must be. Like, I'm like, it must be that girl that was like in the bathroom. I don't know who it was, but it had to be like someone like that. And I'm so sorry that I blamed it on someone else. And I feel like that's when we were first like, you told me that. story you're the only one I told you're the only I was the only person you told yes and I was like girl it's okay yeah it was so it was so bad I was so embarrassed but like hey no one found out about the shart until now we're telling everyone this is an exclusive I was like yeah I sharded and

holly was like I love you even more I was like this they're just so real like we had a blast on trip no we did because you have like the the influencers that are like you know they're there shooting content 24-7, like actually doing their job and like crushing it, and then we're like, like, the personality hired degenerates. Yes. Like, we were wilds on that trip. Wild. I'm surprised I was ever invited back on another one.

No, I'm, I love working with pepper mayo, by the way, because their trips are so fun, but I just felt like I was an actual degenerate on that trip. No, I was too. I was. We saw all of Australia. We saw all the fucking kangaroos. We went to the zoo. We saw Robert Irwin.

Oh my God. Before he was like... Before Robert Irwin was on Dancing with the Stars. We saw him catching what alligators and shit. Yeah. And he was like really good at that. Yeah, I kind of had a crush on him at the time. No, he was really cute.

He still is really cute. Yeah, he is. He just like seems like a sweet little boy. Yeah, but like too sweet. Too sweet. We would destroy them. We would ruin that. No.

But yeah, no, that trip was so much fun. And then I feel like we just ever since like we're getting booked on the same jobs and like going yeah do we do another pepper mayo trip after that together i've definitely done i've done like five i've done so many but i feel like they never place this together they're probably like we can't they probably are doing on purpose they're probably we can't place these bitches together these bitches can't be together anymore yeah so when you first came out of the villa you were still living at home right yeah i was living in pennsylvania and live was living with you yeah at your house yes in my like bedroom upstairs like i we didn't have a spare bedroom like in my bunk

bed from high school. After the villa. You guys were like thick as fucking thieves. Like we were sisters, like best friends. You guys don't talk anymore at all. No. No. Which is really sad.

But I always thought you guys would like find your way back to each other and like hug it out. I think that we're just in like two different like eras of our lives right now. And like I don't know. Sometimes like friends don't work out. No, I know. We didn't work out, you know. I feel. But yeah, like we were so close.

She was living with me. And right out of the villa. Well, I booked Love Island the day after I graduated college. So I had to move all of my shit out of my college apartment straight home. So like I didn't really have like an apartment booked or anything. So whenever I got off the show, they were like, where are you going to live? I'm like, fuck. I don't know.

I guess out of my suitcase. So then I was like in Pittsburgh and lives obviously from Australia. And we were working together. We had our YouTube together and everything. So I was like, just stay with me. Like we'll touch down every week or so. Yeah. And then travel.

But it really sucks. Like I talk to Torn all the time. I'm like, I miss live. Like, it's so nice to have a best friend in this industry when you're like working together and everything like that. Like it's awesome. You guys have like a big shared experience. Yeah, exactly. That too.

So like coming out of the villa and having like a sister is like so it was so valuable to like me and like my experience on like dipping my toes into this industry. And I think probably for her too. So it was awesome. And like I'm devastated that it didn't work out. but like I feel like that's what your 20s are about like you know like yeah everything's trial and error yeah yeah we just don't mash yeah and yeah we just didn't mash things were happening since we were working together a lot like that just didn't feel right and I feel like when you're I can only imagine I mean I've filmed like some reality TV like just very like like yeah I've been watching like dipping like a

finger in but I can't even imagine like having no phone and like going on like a like I would go stir crazy no I was going and Because also I was like a huge pot smoker like in college like I'd wake up Oh really? Rip the bong and like write a 25 page paper go out of the gym like so functional and then when I went on Love Island obviously I couldn't bring my little weed pen to Fiji So I can't even sneak it I definitely could have but like I was too scared to even sneak so like I went out and I feel like if I had brought my weed pen and just like had a little fun I would have like crashed out the entire time so I literally think I was going through withdraws from marijuana and Yeah, it wasn't good. Like, I don't know if you remember what he just looked like three years ago,

but like I was like, Hallie Trackchilder. Wait, I see videos of you. I think people like upload them from like other accounts and I'm like, yo, Hallie, like you look so different. No, people like, I've been putting me on blast a lot recently. I'll be like going through my free page. I'm like, why are people uploading old videos in me and just like troll my ass? No, it's so good.

Like people are loving them. So I just started posting like duetting like my old videos. Oh, really? And just like, I actually do look like I got a face transplant. No, what did you do? Like, what, is it just, like, getting older and, like, losing, like? Yeah, I think it's a little bit of that. I started getting master Botox, which completely changed the shape of my face.

Yeah. Slimed it out a lot. I lost, like, 25 pounds, which probably slimmed me out a lot, too. And I got a little filler in my upper cheeks. I got veneers, which really changed my smile. Oh, really? Yeah. So I guess I did get in my history.

No, I got a lot of fucking shit too. Like, people will post like, you look so much different. I'm like, yes, I got my teeth done. My entire fate is talks, filler, sculpture. You get sculpture? I've always wanted to get soap. You got your nose done? Well, I just got nose filler.

But I feel like it really changed the way my nose look. I have, like, just go up to the Upper East Side and like my girl's so good and I'm like just fucking inject me. I just hit the lap, the gas and I'm like, have it. I got all my filler taken out. Oh, really? Which I think was better for my face. Yeah. But I think I took too much out.

So my lips started looking like a deflated balloon. No, they look really good. I got a little in the upper. But like I feel like I could do like a little bit more. Yeah, I'm just, it's so bad. I'm like just like fill me up. No, I'm like, addicted to it. Me too.

And I like love the laughing gas. Can we like buy that somewhere? I know. Can we bring it to your pond? I literally, yeah, please. I literally told Fay, who's my injector. I was like, Faye. I'll just come and hang out with this fucking canister all day.

Like, just let me have that it. It's the best stuff ever. I love going to the dentist for that reason. Yeah. Okay, let's go back to Love Island. I'm sure you get a million questions about Love Island all the time. So these probably will be repetitive to you. You're fine.

But like what was like the like the application process? Like I want to know so much about it. So basically the application process is like a hundred twenty five page questionnaire, open edit questions so it's like a lot that you have to answer a lot of people get reached out to but I was from the like the smallest fucking town in Pennsylvania like no one's gonna reach out to me so I just like applied I was drunk off buzz balls in my room with my friends on Christmas break in college was one of your friends like do it yeah well I actually was like seeing my ex-boyfriend like from high school like on and off like we were together a lot and I think he was terrible and I was like okay I need to like

fucking get away from him. Yeah. So like, fuck it. I'm applying for Love Island. So we were fucking hammered. And I was doing it for shits and gigs. Like, honestly, I didn't think I'd ever get on the show because they were like, what's your craziest suck story?

And like, I just completely lied. I was like, I was like hanging from the fucking ceiling and like. Doing cartwheel. Yeah, literally like. Seriously, like the most craziest questions. We were like, they were helping me come up with the craziest fucking like answers for the shit, like for shits and gigs. Like when someone reads this, they're going to fucking, like, die.

Like, no way they're going to, like, call you. Well, I submitted it. My ex-boyfriend, or I'm about to submit it, my ex-boyfriend at the time gives me a call. And I go back to the Google Doc and it's all gone. Like, all of my answers are fucking gone. So I'm like, you fucking ruin everything for me. Oh, shit. This is all your fucking fault.

Like, you knew what you were doing. Whatever. And he knew I was doing it at the time. So I resubmit it. We go to Applebee's and we have some more fucking drinks. And I resubmit the application. there and I'm like okay no way like someone's gonna fucking like call me at this and then I'm in college sitting in class writing a fucking paper and I like get a call from like Beverly Hills

and like just Beverly Hills yeah bitch and I'm from like Hollywood I'm calling you fucking smallest like town that you could ever imagine in Pennsylvania like yeah buzzballs and Applebee's I'm like who the fuck is calling me right now so I go to the bathroom my answer it and it's a good casting agent who's like cast for Love Island Like we saw your application. We would love to like set up an interview and then after one interview I had two, three, four, five and I'd like yeah like five because you meet with like someone from like the casting agents team to make sure that like you're a fit and then you have to meet with like the producers and then you have to meet with like NBC and Peacock as a whole like everyone has to see you and I just like took a couple shots before every interview to like loosen up because like they probably think I'm like the sex freak from my. answers. So yeah, I just took shots. But like at the time I was like in the smallest room possible in college. Like there was like holes in the wall. Like it was a disgusting room. And I remember the producer being like, babe, you booked Love Island because of the shit room that you were in. Like I never tried to like clean up or anything. Like I was just a fucking mess. It was like yeah, I just got off my shift fucking waitressing. And I have to write three like three fucking papers like they liked that. They like thawthon. Yeah. Yeah. Were you like. going in for you like, I want love.

Yeah, yeah. You really wanted to find a boyfriend. Yeah. I'm a lover girl. You just, like, I feel like some people go on, just like try something new.

Yeah. And I think like I was like going for the experience. You know, like I was like, okay, I was 22 at the time. So I was like, okay, if I don't find love like whatever, like I had this cool experience

and I got to be on TV. Like you know what I mean? Like I think that a lot of people don't acknowledge that it, it's a TV show. So like, of course you're going. going on and you have reservations like, sure, maybe this might like give me a couple more followers.

That's obvious. Like, everyone's thinking that. But like, no one really talks about that. Like, you were like, I just like for love. But also I feel like your season, obviously, I feel like it blew up Love Island USA. Yeah. So I feel like before that, people like weren't, didn't really know much about the Love Island USA.

Yeah. And now after your season, I feel like more people go on because they see that like rise to stardom. Do you know what I mean? I do. I do. And I think that could definitely be like the case scenario because like for our season, like we didn't know that it was going to do as well as it did.

It was insane. I've never seen anything like that. And I don't even know how it was. My friends will always, I'm like, see how much online traction Love Island gets out? And I ask my friends. I'm like,

is this how it was? And they're like, dude, yes. Like you have no idea like Tate McCrae. Kim Kay was posting about it. Like all of these fucking people. And I feel like now it's just getting bigger and bigger.

But my friends are like, no, honey. Like your season was no insane. I feel like I remember like the last season happening and people were being like, you can't recreate like your rest of season. Like it just like wasn't it wasn't hitting the same. I feel like a lot of people like if you if I was to go on my island now, I would be so reserved because like now you know everyone's fucking watching the show.

Well also people just like love to cancel people now. Oh God. What do you think about that? Like I feel like people. I think it's a bit ridiculous. Like, I understand on some scenarios, but, like, others, I'm like, chill the fuck out. Like, imagine if half of these fans watched one episode of fucking housewives. Everyone would be fucking canceled.

No, yeah, housewives in, like, 2009. Like, like, Romano would never make it a second. Or, like, Mary Cosby, like, sit down, little girl. Like, do you know that is? Yeah, I love Mary Cosby. Like, these fans think that, like, Love Island is so bad and, like, the drama. Like, honestly, when I'm watching Love Island, like, this shit is fucking. boring turn on real housewives right now yeah you know because like they're drama of episodes yes and i think

that's why people are like so connected with like certain individuals because they feel like they know them oh yeah i guess it makes it even more like crazy and parasocial yeah like i could see you on the violent i think i think i think you would be really i think you would do really well i think you just don't give a fuck i feel like i would either i don't think i could do the heart rate challenge oh bitch i didn't think I could either. Did you drink before that? No. And I was the first one to go.

No. And I was the first fucking one. Yes. So, wait, tell me about that. Is it just silence? So, no, they play music. They play music. What song?

I think mine was like, hey, Mickey, you're so fine. Because I was like a cheerleader. Which was like, wasn't like, but that's not chicken ass music. No, like put on like, sexy red. And I was in my period too. Oh. So literally no one knows this. but before I got up for the heart rate challenge,

when the boys were like dancing on me and stuff, I had like this pink like full one piece on. And I get up and the yellow fire pit couch is just fucking red. Because I bled. And when I got up, I'm like, I like grab the producers. I'm like, guys, I'm so embarrassed. Like the guys are about to go sit down. Like it's full of blood.

Like I don't know what the fuck to do. Like it's not like you can just run to the bathroom and grab paper towels to clean it up. Like you are controlled in everything. Like you have to ask, excuse me, can I? please use the toilet. Like, it's not like a free for all. Yeah. So I'm like telling them, I'm like, oh my God, like you guys have to cut that out. Like I get up and like, thank God I had pink on, but like I'm bleeding all over the seat. I'm like, God forbid someone came to tans on me and I got up and there was just a fucking pool of blood. Oh my God. I would have

crashed out. Literally after that, I'm like, how the fuck am I going to wear a thong? And like, I just started my period bled all over these seats. Like, it's gross. The villas like look so clean on TV, but it's disgusting. Oh, really? Certain areas are like, the upstairs girls' bathroom is like off camera. And like, I remember I was showering, or maybe it was Liv. I don't remember it was the other Liver Eye, was like

showering and she goes in and there's a used bloody tampon on the shower floor. Was yours? No, no, no, no. This is before I got my period. But like, this is the shit that like no one gets to see. It's like that kind of stuff. They probably had like the, was the boys bathroom on camera? Yeah. Like, how do you like take a shit?

Oh, well, like the only that, so the shower bathroom and the poop bathroom are different. So like the shower bathroom is on camera and that's the boys bathroom, which is downstairs. Okay. That's what the bathroom everyone sees. But there's not a toilet in there. Like you take a couple steps like outside of the bathroom and there's like a separate bathroom for. I don't think I could share a bathroom with that many girls. Yeah.

That would like make me go insane. Yeah. and you wear your mic when you're taking a shit. Oh, no. Yep. So it's like splash, splash. Splash, splash. Sprinkle, sprinkle.

Yes. Was there, like, producers, like, all around? Like, what was, like, I always wonder, like, how many people outside of, like, you guys were, like, walking around on the back, on the backside of things. A lot. A lot. There's probably, like, five on-site producers that we see, and then the execs are, like, a huge room, like, behind a bunch of, like, cameras watching.

And then they come over, like, the end-up of, like, the end. intercom whenever they need to to like guide us or like put us with someone for chats or oh shit yeah so it's a lot and it's so weird because in fiji the villa the love island villa is like literally a movie set it's just like a set like it's this beautiful vibrant villa and then you look outside it's like a railroad track yeah yeah yeah so that's fucking nuts yeah it's like you're sleeping on set 24-7 mics everywhere, like some of the headboards when you're going to sleep. Did you ever smash on camera? Um, yeah.

Like, like, like it slipped in. I did. I just fell when it slipped in. No, because the thing is, like, I would be smashing on camera. It's hard. Like, you're in Fiji. Everyone's fucking hot. You're horny.

Like, you can't, it's not like, you can't bring vibrators or anything. Like, those are banned. You can't bring vibrators? No. So these are the reasons why I wouldn't go on Live Island. Yeah. No, you can't bring vibrators. Can't like, no, like, self-pleasures allowed.

Oh, no, vapes. We're allowed babes. I was hitting my vapes off camera all the time. Okay. Yeah. Smoking cigarettes. They got me some Fijian cigarettes. In the OG seasons, you could just, like, rip.

I know. I had Olivia outward, and she was, like, an OG, you know, Olivia Outwood. She's, like, OG Love Island UK. She, like, said, like, her days, like, you could drink as much as you want. Like, you'd be ripping Sigs, like, out. And, like, it was just fucking bonkers. Yes. I know someone, like, said that.

and the OG seasons, you could just get fucking hammered and, like, people with a fist fight and shit. That's, like, what the people want to see, no? That's what the people want to see. When did we, like, it's a, like, come on. Something happened, I think, on, like, Bachelor Nation where, like, a girl, like, I don't know, got too drunk or, like, the guy, like, did something. Like, there's, like... Oh, wait, I remember that Bachelor in Paradise. Yes, they literally call it the Bachelor rule.

Oh, I remember that. He got kicked off immediately. He, like, came on to disilling inappropriate, right? Well, that makes sense. We can't have that either. Yeah. But, like, if we were. hammered we would provide like such good TV like if they if like the public thought that our TV was

good imagine was strong like it would have been insane I just think there needs to be more shows that like people can just get fucked up on I agree like Jersey Shore back in the day like prime television like prime television like for on wall games could you get hammered yeah they would well there was rules like you couldn't like drink before challenges I was watching it back and I was fucking blacked out. Some of these conversations, I don't even remember. I've been watching it. Like, don't I look hammered though?

No, no, but you're like the mediator. No, I'm like the narrator. I don't know how that happened. Literally at the beginning or like when they were teasing it, I'm like, wait, is this Hallie show? No, like I was watching the teasers too and I was like, I'm confused how it was out of this way. You like walk in, you're like, hey, bitches. I know, I, but maybe that's just because I was the only one returning.

I don't know. Yeah, it was good show. It was. I enjoy watching it. And I think everyone like, Zaread was like, I'm having so much anxiety about it. I'm like, it's okay, girl. Like, listen. And like, all this shit will pass.

Like, all this shit will pass. And it's all press is good press. Yes. Yes. But I've been like really liking it. I think I like it more this season than last season. I think the season just like, it's like all singles. Yeah.

And there's like beef between the girls too. There's a lot of beef. Yeah. Is there the beef? still thing or was it just is it like over now there was real beef everything that happened on the show was real nothing was manufactured like I think like they could have had eight episodes of just I was arguing like there were so many different storylines spitting out because we were like actually all going nuts and we're all hammered like confrontational I love Becca like Becca is made for TV

I love watching her I literally told me when I was like she is perfect for this no because she's so funny And she's like just herself. She's herself and she's dry. I think the only thing that like when kind of like I'm noticing like everyone's breaking the fourth wall in this show. Yeah. Like everyone's talking about like their edit and like camera time and screen time. But I kind of like it.

But it's kind of like, oh, like you can break the fourth wall. It's like fine. Yeah. Okay. Let's go back to the bill. I want to talk about who you were friends with who you didn't like who you were friends with now. Who you don't like now.

Because you had like, you were friends with like a lot of the guys too. Yeah, yeah, and I still am, like, most of them. Like, my closest friend is Kendall. Kind of, like, all of the cast. I love Kendall. Yeah, because we're always together. Like, we always do the same thing, always booked him the same jobs. Like, when he comes to New York, he stays on my couch.

When I go to L.A., stay on his. Yeah. And we're, like, brother and sister. I'd say I'm closest with, like, Kendall, Rob, Jeney and Serena. Leah and I text, like, once in a while. I love her. Yeah, Lee is so sweet. And, yeah, I don't talk to live at all.

is live the only one i can't think of anyone else i don't talk to like live i don't talk to i don't talk to i don't really talk to nicole and andrea i don't talk to andrea i don't really talk to daniela much okay cassie yeah i mean like whenever i see them i'll say hi but we don't have like a relationship really you guys like you and the other ones i feel like it's like the end yeah and it's just like a different bond we have you know with each other rather than like girls that came into call so we didn't we didn't have the time to get to know yeah you know you still in a relationship yeah yeah yeah yeah's still in a relationship yes lea miguel serena and cordal who do you think's can get engaged first between the three of you the three of me you think you're in a

relationship yeah yeah yeah i'll think i'll get a ring in 27 you do you do i think so too i think i will i don't know i'm just so in love i'm manifesting that for you but like are you ready to have like a wedding no i'm ready to be engaged yeah yeah bling yes i want the voice And I, like, can't imagine planning a wedding within a year. Like, I don't know how people fucking do that. No, like, enjoy the engaged life. Yeah. So maybe, like, get a ring and then wait, like, a year and a half.

I could also see Leah getting engaged next year. I could see Leah, and I could also see Serena. I don't know Serena. Oh, really? I just, like, admire from a distance because I just see her. She's great. I don't know who will get engaged first. Like, Serena and Cordell, like, I have no idea.

Everyone seems so, like, happy and in love, though. They are. Like Serena and Cordell are the cutest. Like, they're actually truly best friends. And Leah and Miguel lived together. And he does everything for her. Like, it's so awesome to see, like, something actually work out of Love Island. Because, like, with my situation, like, it was not like that.

And, like, for many others. But was your situation? Not that we have to, like, touch on that much. But, like, it kind of ended right after. Well, kind of. So I was. And then the reunion happened. Yeah.

So like after like Love Island, I was like going home and seeing clips and everything. And like when you have the public on your ass and being like this fucking man did this and that, it's really hard. Like it's really fucking hard. So I try to still give it a chance. And then I just kept seeing edits of certain things that like I had asked him about in Fiji. Because when we left the show, he stayed my hotel room. And like I was asking him like, did you see this clip? Like is this true?

And he's like, no, he just made it out to be like something that it's not. Or like a huge thing of the show was like he tried to put his hands down like Danielle's pants. And like I asked him like, did you do that? And he was like, no, that was just show. And then he came to New York. We stayed with each other here. Like we're hooking up. And then we were like having arguments here and there just because I kept seeing shit.

And I'm like, tell me the fucking truth. Yeah. Tell me the fucking truth. And then the reunion happened. And then on stage the reunion on cameras. He's like, I do want to tell the truth now. And, Kayla, I did do that. And you were like, what the fuck?

Why would you tell me now? I'm like, why are you telling me now? Like, I was with you, like, days before. Why are you telling me for the cameras? Like... Were you, like, mad because he waited for the cameras? Were you mad because you were like, did you feel like publicly embarrassed? Well, yeah, both.

Because, like, I was like, literally he fucked around my face all fucking summer. I took him back, took him back, took him back. And then yet again on the cameras, he tries to embarrass me again. when I was literally staying with him, hooking up with him and he didn't, what, like forgot to leave out that detail? Were the public against you?

Were they more against your relationship with him and against him? Against all three. Like, they were against, they didn't like that I cried. They didn't like that I was on that. Why? I feel like that's real. They didn't like that I cried because they were like,

you're crying over a dude that like, it's your fucking fault because you keep taking a back. But is not every girl been through a situation like that, at least once in their life, Like that is the realest shit I've ever seen. Yeah. So like whatever. They were upset about that and then upset really did not like him.

And then didn't. I kind of felt bad for him. Really hated us together too. Yeah. Like it was just a bad. It was just a recipe. Yeah. Who's the most liked on that show?

Um, probably PPG. PPD. Yeah. Which like it is so well deserved. Like so well deserved. Like they're the fucking best. And do people like Rob? Um.

They just love what he look like. Yeah. They love what he looked like. But I think Rob got a really bad rest. from Love Island. Yeah. Which like, I don't know. Rob's like the best fucking person in the world.

Like he's so genuine. He's so fucking cool. And he fucked up. I had one interaction with Rob. That was kind of weird. Oh, really? And it was at Super Bowl, like a couple years ago. It was just like a weird.

Like he's weird. He kind of like turp me for my show. And he like, it was at like a unwell event. And whatever. Like I knew someone. when he was with and like... Was it like in Vegas when we were there in... No, it was in New Orleans.

Oh, okay. And he's like, what do you do? And I was like, oh, I have a show called Extra Dirty and like he's like, he read the description to me out loud like on Spotify. And he's like, this is really what you do. And he kind of like insulted me for my podcast. Oh my God. And I was like, what the fuck do you do?

Catch snakes? And we kind of like had an argument, but... Oh, really? Like was like legit or was he just like making fun? Well, I was kind of pissed. Oh, really? I think he was like, and then he like, to his friend was like, did I take it too far? and it's like, no, it's fine.

Rob's, like, humor is so dry. So it's hard to read. Yeah, maybe I, like, was just drunk and sensitive, but I was like, my show was brand new. Or maybe he was just, fuck you, yo. Rob's very, like, short, like with people. Like, I'm like, hey, Rob, how are you? He's, like, good. Like, you know, he's just, like, he's so hard to read.

Yeah, he seems very bright, though. Yeah, he has, like, a girlfriend now and they're, like, just in love. And they're, like, in the creek every day catching snakes. I know. I feel like he lives a very simple, like. He does. We went to Alabama with him on the 4th of July for the 4th of July, torn and I, and then, like, Rob and his girlfriend, Chloe. And, like, I wanted to see what, like, Rob's life was. And it's, he lives on a house. He has a trailer. He has a farm. He has a quad,

dirt bike. And he goes to the creek every day and catches snakes. And, like, I feel like he's not someone you'd catch a fashion week. No. Oh, my God. That would be his absolute hell. No, yeah. I hate that. But I asked his girlfriend, Chloe, I was like, Chloe, do you actually enjoy catching the snakes? Like, no fucking way. Like, we're, like, you don't. She's like, yeah, I really like it. I'm like, wow.

Okay, this is perfect for Rob because, like, I could never, like, I couldn't imagine, like, waking up and be like, yes, I can't wait to be in the mud and catch snakes today. Snake scare the shit out of me. Yeah, and I had a touch wood of shit. And it smells. It has, like, a smell. And it, like, could bite you. Yeah.

Yeah. So, some fuck out of shit. Yeah. So, like, for Love Island, that's who I'm, like, friends with, who I'm still talking to. There's no one that I like despise or hate Well that's good So yeah and it was like so Like it's almost been three years now

Like it's so old news Much old news What do you think about the most recent seasons I think this season That just came out was better than the last one Really? Yeah Yeah

I enjoyed it more Yeah I'm trying to think Who I know from I know some people from both seasons At this point But the season with Huda it was just kind of like a lot it was like a lot of drama

like too much drama yeah it's kind of like toxic almost yeah yeah toxic drama but it was real like I enjoyed both seasons but I think I watched since I watched this season the most recent season I feel like I enjoyed it more like for season eight or for season seven I just watched through TikTok so I just saw the drama and not like the good bits

of like them loving each other yeah was there like any good bits of them loving each other I don't think so I think they were all just like fighting and like beefing with Hura. Yeah. I kind of read that season. Yeah. If I could sum it up into like one sentence.

Yeah, I have never met Huda, but. Huda was on Unwell Winter Games. She's actually very sweet. Yeah, she seems really sweet. She's young. Like, oh, really? Well, she's younger than me. Like, everyone's younger than me.

So I'm like, oh, you're a baby, but she has a baby. So it's like in my head, she was older. So, but she was just like, she's just in her early 20s to figure it out like everyone else. So like her crash outs. kind of read as like, you know, everyone crushes out sometimes. That's the thing about Love Island. Like everyone has taken a guy back that they hate. Everyone's been toxic. Everyone's like, everyone experienced that. I think that's why the public likes Love Island so much because it's so relatable. Like people have, we've all been through that. You can resonate with someone on the show.

Exactly. Exactly. So like this new season, I just met like a lot of the new cast recently for New York Fashion Week and they're all amazing. Yeah, I met Ceda. Love Kada. And I love her. I was like at Kada Stan like the whole season. Yeah, me too. I don't think I've met anyone else. Who's Kada's boyfriend?

Zach. Zach, Zach. Yeah. I was going to say Charlie. Charlie was on the season before. They look so much alike. They look so much alike. But, um.

Kada, I fucking love that bitch. Yeah, she's awesome. Melanie is the sweetest girl ever. I'm on Anaya. She's also so sweet. I've like met Trinity too. Like they're all amazing. Oh, I met Trinity.

I was just like, they're not with Trinity. Yeah. Yeah. They're also like they're all great people. They're just sweet. I think Love Island's really good at casting, like just good people. Yeah. So tell me about Torin.

When did you guys meet? And was that when you moved, you moved to New York shortly after out of Zivada? No. You went to L.A. So I went to L.A. because we were filming Beyond the Villa. Yes. Okay. Sorry. And they like, were like, we let you guys to act like you're all living in L.A.

And it was so obvious that we weren't. But moved to L.A. for the show. Didn't like it. It wasn't my thing. I'm from Pennsylvania. So like I liked being close to my family. just like feel like east coast. I don't know.

No, I get it. I met toward stagecoach. And at the time I was like talking to this other dude who was like friends who was like, I think I know. Yeah. I met him at stagecoach. We didn't really hit it off like at all. Didn't really care.

And then for beyond the villa, Kendall and I had to film a scene like at dinner. Like do briefing stagecoach. And Kendall's best friends were supposed to come to the dinner, but they were too hungover. So Kendall calls up a Louis. Torin and they were like, fuck yeah, I'll come, like whatever. So they came to the scene and then we went out to Saddle Ranch and got fucking hammered. And then the rest is this right?

Yeah. And then I was like at the bar, I was like, can, do you want to just make out right now? Like I hit on him first. And I always bring that up. I'm like, what the fuck were you doing? He's probably scared of you. Maybe. But I'm like, I fucking hit on you first.

Like what the fuck? But yeah. So then one thing led to another. And at the time we had like a one night stand kind of. And then I always say that. I'm like, can you believe we had a one-night stand? He's like, babe, it's not a one-night stand. Like, we're together now.

Yeah, that's a one-night stand. So my advice is to have the one-night stand. I always do that too. Everyone's like, there's rules. Like, you have to wait three dates and then do that. But I'm like, sometimes you have to do it backwards. And I'm not like to each their own here. But like, sometimes you got to like test drive the car before you, you know, buy it.

Exactly. Right? Dude, imagine, like, talking to a guy for, like, like, let's say two months you really like him, but you guys haven't hooked up? No, that would never, I would never talk to a guy. Imagine. I'm sorry, but like, what if the sex is bad? What if he's a bad kisser?

Then what do you do? I would look at that as like a waste of time and a loss of time in life. Agreed. Agreed. You know? So you're hearing it here first. Hook up before you even go on a date. Yeah.

Do whatever you want. You know, like, I'm like, I don't even know what era of my life I am right now. Should I find a boyfriend? You should. I would love it. We can go on double eats in the city. The torn up hot runs? You know all of Torin's friends.

Yeah. I don't know. Do you think any of them are hot? I just don't know if I like, I... Maybe you and Louie could kick you. I just like, those guys are just like so like, I don't know. If the words L.A., like Louie is like, what's the word I'm looking? I know.

Like, Louis, we love you. But like taking selfies in the mirror. Yeah, like they pout too much. Yeah, yeah. But like, Toron is the complete opposite. Torin is not like that. I don't get that experience in Torin. No, you go on his Instagram and it's just me.

Like, I'm just like his world. He's like obsessed with you. And like vice versa. You know it's crazy now that Torin manages Chad and my brother. Insane. It's a full circle moment. Insane. It is.

And like he loves Chad. Like Chad is towards little pride and joy. Well, Chad is just like, he's just out of his mind. He's in a great way. I met Chad at Stagecoach for the first time. He's a character. And we had, were you at Stagecoach? No.

Okay. I was just at Coachella. Okay. I couldn't do both this year. Yeah. But we just got fucking hammered. And I thought like Sammy was just like Chad because I had met Chad first. Yeah.

So I like see Sammy and Sammy's like giving me a look like chill the fuck out. Yeah. Yeah. But like now I know them. Sammy's like such a lover. Like he's so nice. Like every time I see Sammy is like hugging me. No, he's like so sweet.

And he's like mature. He acts like the older brother almost. like very just like mature where me and Chad you could probably find some similarities between the two of us yeah you guys are so much alike we're just like out of our fucking goddamn minds does Chad stay with you on us here in New York no because

one I just like I'm one of those people like need to chill out during the week sometimes like during the day and I feel like if Chad were to stay with me we would find a way to like not get drunk like get drunk all that and party and just like and have fun And like I love that. But when I'm like, especially during fashion week and I was just not feeling well,

I was just like I can't. Yeah. And he like, I don't think he even wants to stay with me. He wants to like have his own place. I want to come over. I want to see your beautiful apartment. You could come over whenever. I like see it all the time in the back.

Do you think you'll be in New York forever? No, I don't say that. I think I'll be in New York until I don't need to be anymore. Something more important to me like brings me outside of New York. I'm not like opposed to leaving New York. I don't know if I want to raise a family in New York. Yeah, like, imagine, like, babies in New York. In, like, my one bed?

Or even, like, a three-bed. Like, the three-beds are even tiny. Yeah, like, I want, like, a house when I have kids. Or, like, at least a brown. And maybe, like, chickens. Oh, okay. Do you want chickens? I don't know if I want chicken.

Well, Paige's some chickens. You know, you know Paige's Florence. Yeah, of course. She has chickens everywhere on her. Like, she's chickens, like, walk into her house. Yeah, I love that. She's, like, living the dream. That's what I would.

Yeah. I just, like, don't think. I like me to get my like act together. Like sometimes I'm like, I'm like almost 30. No, I think that that's like so overdone. Everyone's like when you're at 30, like you need to be settled down and everything.

Like no the fuck you don't. I don't even want to settle down by 30, but I just think about like my biological clock sometimes. Okay. I just feel like am I ready to have kids in that being the next five years probably? Seven years. Yeah, that's insane. And like seven years ago was what?

2019. That's when I graduated. college. So like if you think about like when you graduate college now, like I just like, I'm like time goes by really quickly. But all right, now I'm just spiraling here or we're going to play crash out or carry on. Oh, wow. Okay. And I'm going to ask you scenarios and you're going to say whether you'd crash out or you just like let it go. Do you have these memorized? No. I'm impressed. I'm like looking at my phone half my podcast. Well like I just knew with you I could just like run it. Run it. I go through it and I can. I go through it and I

kind of like remember things. Okay. You're better than me. The coffee help though. So I'm like kind of brained. I did back in the day. I don't remember anything. I'm like four days off alcohol and I swear like I feel worse.

Withdraw. No, no, it's definitely like withdrawal. Like I have a pounding headache right now. And it's probably because like I'm an alcoholic. Same. Yeah.

Anyways, let's go. Okay. Would you crash our carry on from the following scenarios? He leaves the empty milk card in the fridge with one drop left. Carry on. Like, that happens to me every fucking day

with Torin. Really? Yeah, he's always leaving, like, the mouthwash. I'm like, okay, we have mouth wash today. It's gone. He just puts the bottle back in.

You guys live together, right? Yeah, we lived together. So he moved here? Yeah. He's living it. He's living in the New York City life. When did he move? In, like, June.

Okay, so it's recent. I was going to say, did I miss a chapter? Okay, it takes two hours to reply. You see him posting on his Instagram. Yeah, crashing out. Crashing the fuck out.

No, crashing. What does a crash out like look to you? Like on when you're like pissed off at Torrey? Oh, like I explode. It's bad. Like it's bad. Like I can keep my palm. But like when I feel anyway, like I don't know if it's just me, but like when I'm sad, when I'm angry, it's very big.

Yeah. Like it's very big. Like when I'm crying, it's a very big cry. When I'm angry, I'm fucking pissed. How does he deal with that? He like, is he good at like handling you or is he combative back? No, never. He just allows me to be a bitch.

Honestly, that's the key. And he never calls me out in the time being. Like he won't, like if he knows that I'm fucking angry, he won't be like, you're being fucking rude. He waits until him calm down. Then he was like, that was rude. That was really insane. And I'm like things.

Okay, the next one. He accidentally calls you by his ex his name in bed. You would kill him. I would actually say, I'm sorry, honey. let me go get some lubricant, go grab a knife in my kitchen and cut off his penis and feed it to him. Oh, what were you going to do with the super glue? Oh, instead of lubo, just like make him like... Yeah, I love that idea.

Love. I would actually freak the fuck out. I actually just recently saw this thing where like this wife, I don't know if it was real, but like this wife, like, knew her husband was cheating on her with the mistress. So she exchanged lubricant with superglue. so when they fucked he was like stuck inside of her and there's like a video of like Is this true?

I don't I saw I think it might be true There's a video of like him stuck inside of her Like they're both on like a gurney Like a not a gurney What's it called? Like a stretcher Stretcher A gruny is like where they're dead

On a stretcher like he's on top of her And they're like they're stuck together How embarrassing Oh my God But that's like the kind of foul shit I would pull No you're giving me ideas Yeah I don't like to give you You'll actually execute them

He tells you that he tells you that you're starting to sound like your mom during an argument. I don't really give a fuck, cool, whatever. I don't even, like, know what that would mean. I don't think that would, like, insult me. Yeah, I don't think... My mom's pretty fucking cool, so whatever, like... Okay, so you wouldn't crash out.

No. I feel like I'd be fine with that, too. He pulls out his phone to check a sports score right after you have sex. Oh, my God. I feel like that's something torn would fucking do, yeah. Yeah. I'm not crashing out. Are you?

I don't know. I don't... Like, if you give me a... kiss first. Yeah. Is that bad? I just like, I've been single for so long. So like if like a guy like I'm just happy to be there at that point.

If they want to check the score or like go for a walk, I'm just like happy I got late at that point. Yeah. Yeah. And I feel like with Torn and I, it's like, okay, whatever, it's fine. It's not that deep. If they were like checking Instagram and like liking Badi's pictures right after. Oh, like if I'm giving him head and he's like checking the score, then that's different. But like if we finished our like sexual altercation, then you can do whatever you want.

There's been like recent times where I'm hooking up with the guy and like they're behind me and I can hear them hitting the bait. What do you think about that? Like what has society came? Like what? But like I'm more. But like honestly. I get it. You want like a head high and high and a body high.

Well like I feel like that's something I would do. No, like I was kind of mad even pass it. Yeah. Like I feel like if I was getting head. I'm just relaxing. Like, let me enjoy my time. I've definitely done that. Yeah, I've definitely done that too.

But, like, I was like, should I be mad at this? But then I was like, it was just funny because like, through like the back of my hair, I was like a cloud. And I was like, oh, my. Like, wait, it's kind of adding to the bit. Like, it's like, see me and moody now. It's like a fog machine. Okay, he starts laughing you and you talk dirty in bed.

I would hate that. I would hate that too. But, like, I feel like, I don't really, I'm not like, Yes, I just want to, like, I don't really like. You don't talk? No, I talk. I talk, but I'm not like. I feel like you'd be the talker.

Hey, you little sexy. Like, I'm, like, you little fuck slut. Yeah, like, I'm not like, yeah, baby. Like, like, you're not, like, I don't know, you know. Like, I can't really, like, give an example because we're not in the moment. Yeah, baby. Come on. No, I, I, yeah.

Like, what's a line that you would even say in bed? I, like, can't even say you. Exactly. Like, exactly. I would make myself crazy. I like turn into like a sex operator porn star when I have sex. Like the way I talk is like I don't like even recognize myself. Listen my, in my room, in my bedroom, behind my bed, it's like all mirrors.

So like I'm an entire mirror wall. So like my bedroom is so much fun for sex. Like Tordon and I have the best sex in it. And it like kind of like I think made us better at sex because we can see ourselves in the mirror. Maybe I'll buy a mirror for my room. I used to have my mirror in my room, but there was, like, no good place to, like, put it. Yeah, no, mine is, like, like, think about your bed against the wall, like, my entire wall is, like, little individual, like, mirrors. Like, it's a whole mirror wall.

Oh, really? And you're on the bed, like, yeah. Fuck. I'll show you a video later. Yeah, show me a video later. Fuck, you give me ideas. I'm going to go on CB2 after and buy some mirrors. Yes.

He has a girl best friend who texts him every day. Okay. Okay. I have a story for this. Okay. So when I first met Torrin, he was like, I have a lot of girlfriends. And I'm like, why are you the guy, why are you the guy that every girl's friends with? Like, why?

Like, that was like weird to me. Yeah. And then I'm like, okay, these are your girlfriends and you're facetimbing them. I've never met your girlfriends. I feel like that's like Louis too. He has a ton of girlfriends. Yeah. Like, okay, I don't have a ton of guy friends, so I can't relate to that.

Like, I confide in my girls. Yeah. Do you get what I'm saying? Like, I don't confide in, I'm not saying they confide in Torin. but like, you know what I mean? I have a ton of guy friends. They're gay, though. Yes, yes.

That's different. That's different. Like, I confide. You like, you know Ben, like, one of my gay best friends, Ben, yeah, yeah, yeah. Stunning. Ben. I can find him Ben all the time. But, like, I couldn't imagine, like, calling a guy and, like, a straight man and, like,

telling you my problem. This might be a hot take, too. If you're an attractive girl, you can't, like, I feel like you can't be friends with a straight guy without them, like, wanting to smash. No, literally. So, I, like, met. I'm like, you swear. You've never, like, hooked up any of these girls.

And these girls are hot if you're stunning. And he's like, no, like, I swear I haven't. And then I'm like, okay, this, like, feels weird to me. And then I finally met them and I was like, wait, these fucking bitches are amazing. Yeah. Like, I loved them. Yeah. But it was just me being, like, petty and toxic and immature.

Yeah. Maybe it's just like, you got to meet them first, that kind of thing to really feel it out. But I don't know. Like, if a guy... So I guess I'm not crashing out. Wait, what was the question? No, like, would you crash out? Like, he had to...

a girl breast friend that, like, text him every day. If he was just one, maybe, but if he was multiple and you can see their dynamics, maybe, you know. Well, Torin's, like, best girlfriends don't text him every day. So, I guess. But if he did have a girlfriend that texts him every day, I would crash out. That's weird. Yeah.

That's fucking weird. I'm sorry. Like, go get a boyfriend. Yeah. But then, like, I'll say, like, to Torin, I'll be like, you have so many girlfriends. He's like, Kailer, you have so many guy friends. You're best friends with Kendall and Rob. Yeah, I was just going to say.

I'm such a hypocrite. but it's just like different it is it's okay when i do it but when he does it's not that's for the girls yeah yeah he's friends with his ex hell to the fucking no absolutely not crashing the fuck out yeah i just think that's a red flag right off of that how can you be friends with an axe i like genuinely have no idea no i don't know like if you're in love with someone like how can you and you've seen them naked and you've been intimate with them and like you've been inside of them bro why are you being yeah you can't you can't talk to any anyone you've been inside of?

No. Ever. Crashing ever. Ever. I tell Torrid all the time. I'm like even when we got out into Nashville, like I know you had a little time in Nashville, but like if I'm not ever at a table with a girl that you've had sexual endeavors with, like, I hope you tell me.

Yeah. Right? Like I should know, right? You should know. But sometimes, especially if you're like prone to crashing out, he might think ignorance is bliss. Yeah, because you might be scared. Yeah, because you definitely is scared. I just saw a thing that was like your boyfriend should be scared.

of you. They should be. And I'm like, yeah. And torn it. I don't think enough. Yeah. But I'm a little scared of him too. Really?

He seems like such an angel. He is, but like he like holds his own, like in an argument. Like if we're arguing like he'll let me win and then after he'll be like that was actually insane. Like, is he? Is he older than you? Yeah. How old is he?

He's 27. And you're 25? 24. You're still a baby. I'll be 25 in January. Okay. Yeah. Well, year where you were you born in?

2002. You're younger than Sammy. How old Sammy? Sammy's 2001. Oh, yeah. Wait, is he? Yeah, yeah. His birthday is in January, I think late January, right?

He's an Aquarius. No, he's a Capricorn. He's early January. Same. January 11th. Mine's the 8th. Chad's turning 27. Really?

A week after me. For some reason, I thought Chad was older than you. Everyone thinks that. I thought Chad was older than you. Thank God I don't have older brothers. Like. Imagine if I had an older brother, they would hate this show. Oh, yeah.

And because they're younger, they can't really talk. And they still have opinions about it. But like, I feel like they can't really like be like big bro me and be like, the fuck did you say that for? Yeah. But, okay, last one. He brings a girl back to Casso Moore from Casso Moore. Yeah, crashing now.

Yeah, obviously. That's so fucking weird. No, that I watched the show. You're the first season I watched that show, by the way. And I was like, I would actually, like, you, everyone kept cool. I would lose my mind. they ripped my mic off and shit. Well, Jenae did.

Like, during Costa, she was like, I'm fucking done with this show. And she, like, tried to leave set. Really? Yes. Yes. I wish they released that. Yeah.

I feel like the ripping the mic off moments are, like, the best moments. They are. They are. But, yeah, no, crashing out. And then Mike crash out, dumbass, like, forgave him. It's okay. Whatever. We've all been there.

Yeah. This was so much fun. Yeah, it was. Did you have fun? I did. It was natural. It was natural. And you were amazing.

And I can't wait to go on your show. I know. Put your show. Plug all your things. Kidders Crash out. It's not now live. TikTok, Kailer Martin, Instagram, Kailer Martin. That's it. Okay. Yeah.

I love you so much. I love you too. Thank you. Love you guys. Bye.