Extra Dirty with Hallie Batchelder - The male perspective: why men aren't approaching women

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

Hi you silly little freaks! This week, Hallie is joined once again by her younger brother Chad for an honest and cheeky sibling Q&A. They discuss their people-pleasing tendencies, the first party they ever threw together in high school, and who was the most expensive Batchelder child. Chad opens up about his therapy journey, why he thinks men aren’t approaching women anymore, and the pressure of always being “the fun one.” Hallie shares a never-before-told story about her ex’s mortifying vacation moment, and the two answer YOUR listener questions: Who starts the most fights? And of course, which Batchelder gets the drunkest? Follow @extradirty on socials and don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and leave a review to keep the stories flowing and the siblings oversharing. 💋

Have you ever thought about that? Going sober? Yeah. Are you sober curious? I'm very sober curious. Um, no. What are you, little freaks? Oh, you guys, I'm doing something really stupid right now.

We have an emergency debrief situation. Hi, this is Hallie from the streets of New York. Guys, I had every intention of staying in last night. all right guys welcome back to extra dirty i'm having chat on again my younger brother if you haven't listened to last week's episode with chad make sure you give that a listen before this one super funny he is a gem i'm honestly shocked how good the episode went we're doing like a little bit of a q and a just like having fun with it like i just you never know the shit that's gonna come out of his mouth the stories that like just like i get reminded of by some of these

questions your guys' questions have been so funny so let's just start off that episode and have fun with it love you guys okay next i'm going to ask chad some like lower-based questions just like for people to get the full picture let's rock okay i'll start who was your first girlfriend i'd say like my first real girlfriend was um when i was 18 like it was like one of those summer things out on antucket that you know like when you i'm the type of person where like I can't like put feelings to the side and sometimes I'm blinded by my own self so like at the time I was a young kid and you guys felt like Romeo and Julia yeah this girl well this girl like showed that you know she really liked me and like I was like intrigued you know and so

I think it just like obviously ended up being a very young toxic relationship I don't think you're the first person to get into a toxic situation and not being able to see you like the outside perspective, I feel like that's a very normal thing to do. But like looking back, you know hindsight's 2020, I feel like you could probably agree that that shit was whack. Oh no, that shit was ODWW. I like almost, I like almost drop kicked her once. No, you, um, you choked her out at the bar.

Like a light choke. Yeah. But like she, she was asking for it. She was haunting me. Yeah, she was taunting you. Like, you had the green light. You guys were broken up and she sat down at our table outside of gas. I'm like what are you doing sitting here like we're all just don't have a good night we're

trying to get along and like could you get up she's like you have two legs why don't you get up and use them don't say that I saw fucking red and stood up from my table like Poseidon or the Hulk or something I swear I lifted her I levitated her yeah it was warranted it was warrants she was being super sketch no yeah and whatever it was just a fucking shitty situation whatever we're all young yeah Okay, next question. What was the most trouble you got into growing up? Oh, no. Honestly, like, I got in a lot of trouble with that relationship, like, and just, like,

sneaking around, like, when no one wanted us to see each other and, like, sneaking around and shit, like. Yeah. I remember it was that summer, you know, when we both got kicked out of the Nantucket house. Yeah. We both, that's funny. We both got kicked out of our house at the same time. Hallie got a fucking room out the white elephant

So she might have upgraded I was getting kicked out It looks so differently for the both of us Like yeah So let me tell the full story Like I had a bunch of people over in the basement Yeah Or like ripping it

And I think I was like doing something Salacious with one of the guys there And mom came down thinking it was your ex-girlfriend She comes storming into the room What the fuck? Motherfugly what's going on? I'm naked And I put a blanket around

me and she walked in on what's her face talking up with this guy mom walks in thinking it's you and your ex girlfriend and she's like what the fuck what the fuck she walks into the bunk room and it's me and a guy and people are like you know whatever and I put the blanket on and I go mom you're

hallucinating I convinced I was gas lining or the fuck out of her I was like you're hallucinating right now like I don't know what's gone into like you may be entering a psychosis menopause I don't know what's happening here like as I'm like naked Like with a blanket on

I was like mom you're tripping You're really being weird right now Like this is like a really weird look And I think you should take a sip of water And like step back of this And she almost believed it You're like in bed with a guy Yeah I was like mom you're being really

Then she went outside And you and what's her face Or at the clubhouse In our little Man Tucker community Trying to sneak around Trying to sneak around She comes in hot man She comes in hot

You're a fucking tramp like To the girl She's like fucking 17 years old Yeah She goes you're fucking worthless tramp Yeah I was like damn mom But I was like loki like co-signing all of it Yeah

But then we both got kicked out Yeah and you You went to the nicest hotel on Antucket And you were like sleeping in the outdoor shower I was sleeping like in our neighbors Like outdoor shower Yeah And I was like at the White Elephant Loftam Resort

And I was like fuck you dad I found better Yeah. They used to get so mad at us. I was like, sorry. It's funny, though. It's funny. That was a good story. Okay.

When did you have your first drink of alcohol? I actually remember it so clearly. I was probably 12 and you were like 14 and we were all like in Noshaw. Hanging around and like someone had like a little plastic bottle of like Bacardi. I always wanted to do like what you were doing. You know what I mean? And that's why I feel like I started, like, the whole, like, partying thing so early because I was-

You're blaming me now? Like, yeah. No, no, no. I just, like, always, like, wanted to be around, like, you and your squad. And so, like, you guys were just, like, a couple years ahead of my time. I mean, like, I had a good squad in high school. I was, like, cool in high school. Oh, you were the shit.

And I had, like, a cool boyfriend. Yeah. Like, and I had, like. Who's, like. He's fucking weird now. Yeah. In high school. in high school he was like kind of like an it boy yeah yeah i was like we were like kind of like

a hot couple no yeah yeah i agree and we kind of ran chow yeah but i just like always but now he still acts like he's 17 yeah he's yeah i haven't even seen him but i know he's uh i've heard things he's fucking weird now um no i yeah i always just wanted to like be an older kid you know what i mean yeah and so i think i started like things a little bit younger Yeah. But I think it's a good thing because I'm kind of at the point at 25 years old where like I've fucking done it, everything in the book. Like, I'm good now.

Yeah. I also feel like you're, this is like another similarity I just thought of between us too is like when we go out, I feel like we have to like, we have like a service to like feel like the life of the party almost. Yeah. Yeah. And like drinking, partying, like being like fucking chaotic. People expect you to be entertainment for sure.

entertainment but like almost like are you laughing with me are you laughing at me yeah and i feel like i felt like that a lot of my life i think it definitely got to a point where i like would struggle with people taking me seriously and it's like 100 same and i'm a huge person on like respect and like i'll all gladly you know crack a joke make people laugh but like the second i'm looked at as like a fucking clown like you get pissed i get tight yeah and like disrespect starts to come out it's like all right like yeah and you'll clock you'll put someone in line yeah no it's like it just like flips a switch in my head and i don't know why like where i learned that like where like if respect's not reciprocated like it's like the biggest insults the biggest deal yeah it's and maybe that's

something i need to like figure out but like still to this day i think with anyone respect is big but like someone treating you like i think it's i think it's clown like dance monkey dance yeah i think it's like dad like was like anyone gives you any like disrespect punch him in the face don't even say anything yeah like that's what he would always tell us you know which is like a bad which is not a good thing yeah no I don't do that yeah don't do that but like I'm trying to think of like how I handled disrespect when I was yeah but like now it's like if I now it's like I crash out and it's like fuck like maybe I shouldn't handle that I think I was a people pleaser for a long time I am yeah I'm the same way like I remember in college I used to

like buy you know everyone's Starbucks it could be smaller like let people use my car and just like wanted to like people please to make friends and I feel like it took me a while to like get out of that groove yeah you can't people please uh learn that the hard way many times yeah because people are fucking moochers because then you you you lose yourself and uh you know yeah keep your circle close yeah like stay true to what you know and if someone has an issue with you then it's not your problem it's probably theirs and that's all period yeah okay next question do you remember your first high school party my first high school party yeah it was one that me and you had thrown together um when when you were a senior and i was a freshman

and like you had all your friends over i had all my friends over and like a fight broke out because we like your guy was like belmont hill set yeah yeah it was like two rival schools came to our house and like they started fighting in the street and like it's not like you're fighting in like the suburbs like you're in the city like yeah there's not only like three houses can hear you but fucking like 30 something yeah yeah like a bunch of different people can hear what's going on cops were called yeah cops were called fucking mom and dad weren't home it went down like a couple blocks just because like we're like fucking random ass guy was like on the roof of yeah yeah someone's house down the street some random route it's like

No, it was a shit show, but... Wherever high school parties, like... Or, like, parties in the summer on Nantucket... Those were the fucking best. Where the cops get busted. Oh, my gosh. And you have to, like, disperse. Oh, it's the biggest adrenaline rush, like,

running from the cops from a party. It was so fun. And there was... There were times where you, like, have to climb a fence and, like, fucking get thorn bushes all in your... Like, whatever. No, yeah. It's like a thrill. Yeah, yeah.

It's like a thrill. and you can't feel anything, but you're running from the cops. It's a canon event. I remember I was such a pussy. I'm like, I don't know. I was like, I don't know. You'll like stay still and like tell the cops the truth. Yeah, and they were like, you're the only one arrested now.

No, no, dead ass. It's like, there was that one time. You try to play the hero and they'll arrest your ass. We were in front of our neighbor's house. Yeah. And the cops came through because we had a fucking handle of Malibu and we were just sitting there drinking. And they came and you guys all dispersed.

And it was just me. And I was like, I will. not run yeah and i had to go to court damn and they were like who are the other people's names we're like i don't know them yeah so like maybe don't tell the tree all the time like fuck i wish i ran from the cops yeah running from the cops is fun no i would let's do it some time actually like i'm down bro just run from the cops one more time okay i said i always talk about how men aren't approaching woman anymore why do you think that is or why do you think that is with me specifically Or with people in general.

Because I feel like people don't go up to women in the bar anymore. Well, for you specifically, I think it's an intimidation factor. Like I said. I can't like that mean. No, but you just give like the fucking cunty energy, which is like a good thing. Is it like something a high walk? No, that just means that like pussies are going to turn away. That's, I want the trash to take itself out.

Yeah, the trash takes itself out. Don't worry. I, like, we're the real men at. But in terms of like men approaching women, this is what I've kind of learned is that men who are insecure won't approach women as much you know they're going to want to wait until a woman can come validate them do you think our generation of men is more intimidated by women yes like dad's generation of men yeah even in between yes i think there's more like gentlemen back then you know like just like a lot more like chivalry also i think social media is kind of yeah yeah i think

social media is also like kind of yeah yeah and there's so parasocial there's a lot of like I mean I don't want to get into like a feminist topic but I feel like there's just like a lot of like you know girl power these days and this and that and I think like that kind of

like yeah I think women have more like the dynamic has changed in society you know like yeah women are standing on business now yeah women are standing on business and I think men hate that sometimes or scared of that at least Insecure men will hate that, for sure.

Beta men will fucking hate that. I think it takes a very secure guy to deal with a woman that, like, has a sick job, has sick income, all that shit. I agree. And I don't know if we're in, like, I don't see a lot of men putting up with that shit. Yeah. No, I agree. But, yeah.

I mean, that was a good answer. What's something you did as a kid that mom and dad still don't know about? Other things? Yeah, like. a bunch of like drugs yeah i mean my i talk about doing blow on this podcast all the time which is why i don't think that mom and dad listen to it okay well so i've like i've like i've accident yeah i'm you know what the thing i appreciate about me being a risk taker is i've tried all these things and like i'm not addicted to them i'm not addicted to them because i know

like what makes me feel uncomfortable what makes me how much will make me make me how much will make me feel like shit you know yeah so like at this age like some people were you know locked in their house by their parents growing up and they go to college and they fucking go buck wild yeah they don't know shit like i mean it's not like mom and dad were angels back in the day too like no no i think and especially just like grown up in the city like we're just like kind of thrown into the wild and like we deal with it ourselves so because we grew up in Boston We didn't grow up in a suburb of Boston. No.

Granted, we grew up in a very nice house, but you get the best of both worlds because at the end of the street is a different world. Government housing, yeah. Yeah. You always had, I mean, your friend group was always a mixed people. I was very diverse, yeah. Yeah, no, and like I never saw a difference between black and white, you know. But I do remember, like, you'd be in the car sometimes, and they'd pull out guns, and we'd be like, oh.

Yeah, no, I'd, because I would just go, like, like, like. like they'll pick me up we'll go smoke you're like mom that's my friend yeah and like one we got to the age where like they start carrying around guns and you're like I'm like let me play with that thing yeah they're like don't touch the bullets he'll get your finger prints on them they said that yeah oh my god I'm like okay you're like yeah I'm like doing this like ah bro no tell me you didn't do that no I did I'm like referring I'm like referring to to like a video that I have my camera Oh shit

We probably can't clip that No no no we won't clip that But like the reason it was so specific Is I'm referring to something Anyways What's your favorite color? No I'm kidding Who gets the drunkest in our family?

Me and you Me and you For sure But like we all get lit We were talking about this the other day We get lit The thing is like I get like so lit but I never get like sloppy no I'm like very controlled yeah yeah like I've I've

too much like awareness where like I could be I could be drinking my fucking I could be drowning myself in alcohol but I will be aware of like what's going on you know yeah some people like lose their inhibitions yeah like their functions yeah their bodily functions like people piss their pants shit Like, I'll never do that in my life. No. Yeah. Remember one of my ex-boyfriends used to do that? Yeah.

Wait, I've never told a story, guys. That's a funny story. This fucking weird freak I used to date back in the day. I remember he was blacked out with his buddies from high school. Mm-hmm. And he goes, can you pick me up? He knew I was like a goody two shoes, like, waiting for him at home, like, to give him a ride. Yeah.

And he, I go, okay, fine. I have to take my dad's fucking Ranger over to go pick you up and he has his head out the winter like a fucking greyhound and he's throwing up all over the fucking windows. So we got back to the house and I actually took a hose to it. Yeah. And I was doing this, whatever. And then he came upstairs and he peed in my whole armoire. And then two months later. And your armoire?

Yeah. Two months later, I brought him to Aruba, which is where we vacation. My parents have a time share there. we go there twice every year we got so blacked out one night and i was normal and just went to bed he sleepwalks and pisses everywhere so what he did is was my dad wasn't there yet mom was sleeping we're in the pull-out couch in the living room he wakes up out of a fucking drunken slumber walks into my mother's room my mom says she wakes up doesn't know what the fuck's going on was worried that he was going to like climb into bed with her and like start humping her like her

or some shit. Well, he's butt-ass naked. He's butt-ass naked with this massive hogout. He walks into mom's room, and mom's like, holy fuck. She thought a tripod walked in. And her makeup, her vanity was right next to it, and he thought the vanity with all of her makeup, I'm talking, Chanel Prada, Dioral,

the fucking makeup setups set-ups right there. He walks in thinking it's like a urinal and pisses all over her brand new makeup. Yeah. she was rip shit yeah that wasn't a happy moment for her but like it's my fault it was like they were like why would you bring this guy around and i was like i don't he's a he's a he's a drunk he turned yeah he turned out to be uh he was kind of a drunk oh a huge drunk yeah and he was like always like spit a dipa yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i'm like what the fuck who's saying yeah sounds like an idiot yeah anyways um that made me passionate let's go to the next question what's

something you wish more woman knew about how men think. Damn. Yeah. I mean, I'd say, like, speaking on personal experience, like, I wish woman knew that sometimes things don't have to do with them and just comes from the person they're dating, you know? Yeah, I think I also... Like, women will take, like, something a guy does as, like, a total attack to them and a total, you know, just betrayal.

But I think that Like we were talking about earlier Like a lot of it comes from internally Yeah And so I think girls just need to sometimes Just be confident in the fact that like They're great And it's not always like they're wrongdoing

Yeah Because I feel like sometimes when like something happens In relationship I guess It reflects poorly on both parties Like a woman like is like oh something I did wrong For them to like act out like this or something when in reality I don't think woman always take an account like either like a man's mental health or you know there's other factors that go into it and I think and I think men battle with more than what is yeah I mean men's mental health is like a whole thing yeah I think it's like an untapped category no yeah and I'll be the first to speak about all that you know yeah because I feel like I would assume that people I mean a man thinks that they have to fill a certain role and maybe having mental health is like almost viewed as like a weakness and like maybe like a role that like a woman should take on more comfortably well men men think that they need to be a man and like they you know shy away from vulnerability and so I think like sensitivity yeah and sensitivity and like you know sometimes being vulnerable is like it's a power move you know I think one of the biggest green flags a man

could have is like being a man in therapy yeah I agree I think that's I think therapy is like such a flex these yeah I just I um I recently got into therapy and it's it's great like I like need to get back into it it's like dating though like I can't like you see you need to find the right one like and I wasn't a luxury I wasn't gonna do it unless like I found the right one but I was like luckily matched up with this female therapist who I think I just with what I was battling with like a FEMA would understand like yeah things better than a male you know 100% and so I don't know I just I think it's definitely been beneficial yeah that's awesome yeah I find one that's like a fall problem for me though yeah we'll wait till after the summer

what what's your ick when you're dating someone like what's an ick you see in a girl it's like honestly I've never asked you this what's an ick it's just like being fucking annoying like you know what I mean like yeah or just like wanting wanting you so bad you know no no no you know I mean like someone who like do the most

to like show you that they're obsessed to you and it's like okay like relax I mean yeah I mean maybe that's maybe that's a bad take but you're like hi sorry you want me too much no yeah just like you can tell that they're like

you know trying to grab your attack across the room or something like and it's it's it's nice to a certain extent but I think it's more icky it's inauthentic it's inauthentic and it's ickier when it's more blatant but when it's like when you know they want your attention but they're not fully giving to you that's when I'm like okay like maybe I make a move you know I mean yeah so I think yeah just doing too much and being annoying is icky or like a bait and switch kind of yeah It's like you're like putting on this whole persona of this different person that you think you would want. Yeah.

And then like that's not you. Just acting out of character to like get you. Grab my attention, you know? I think that's just like icky. Like don't act out of character. Be yourself. Because eventually if we hang out another time, your true self is going to come out. You're not a fucking actress.

And I'm not going to like you. I'm going to like you for your authentic self. Like so. That was good. Yeah. Fuck. Clip that. I think for me, I mean, damn, I don't even know how to top that.

But I don't know, I guess it's kind of in the same realm when, like, guys go overboard to, like, be, like, a super big gaslighter. And, like, they're, like, trying to, like, almost, like, it's the way they flirt. Yeah. Is being toxic. Like, toxic is their form of flirting. Yeah. There's, like, one guy I have in mind that used to do that to me, and that you probably know exactly who I'm talking about. But he used to think it was, like, the funniest and most, like, flexy thing to just, like, toy with my brain in, like, my Achilles heels.

And I, like, thought that was, like, in a little. hindsight that's icky but when I was in it it just like broke my heart it felt like you needed to like prove yourself yeah I don't think that should be the case ever hell no no damn we're getting fucking deep and I love it are you scared of getting rejected are your male friend scared of getting rejected um I definitely like traditionally have been scared of rejection like from anything though from a school like like work like work I'm scared of rejection a lot 100% I'm in sales, you know, like. Life is sales.

Like, you're always saw yourself. I think I, like, grew up with such, like, a perfectionist mindset where, like, if things aren't going to go my way, and I know there's a possibility and they're not going to go my way, I'll, like, shy away from it. Yeah. And, like, if it's, if I know it's not going to be perfect, then I'll be hesitant to make a move on it, you know. Yeah.

So. That's a good answer. Yeah. Yeah. Rejections, not good at any form. Rejections, no. I always say each year I'm like, oh, I've learned something from this guy, I've learned something from that guy, and then I get the little, like, taste of rejection. Yeah. And I think I have a big ego, but I always say I have low self-esteem in some aspects of my life.

But with rejection, I've learned to, like, use my ego to my advantage. You know what I mean? You have to fake it to you make it. If I got rejected, it's like, all right, cool. See, you never, you know? No, that's so real. No, yeah. And, like, maybe inside you're like, fuck, but like. No, you can never, like, let the outside party. knowing that like you're like offended by yeah yeah i'm always like fuck you 72 hour rule if it doesn't bother you three days later then it's not wait is that a thing i don't know i heard it from like drake

wait we're gonna do that yeah you know what my rule is is like i'll get super offended by something i'll get super rejected by a guy yeah i'll say i feel like shit right now and then i'll be like all right i'm putting it into a box i'm closing the box i'm putting the box under my bed and I'll get back to the box later I'll feel like shit next week and then I'll like forget about the box because I've ADHD All right you want to get some of these

viewer asking Q&9 questions Yeah what's up viewers All right these are like I will say like the people that follow me and like ask these questions are like some of the funnier funniest people Shut up how he's following

Yeah I just like love this part of like a podcast is when I answer people questions. Let's hear what they have to say. Let's hear what they have to say. Let's start off simple. Who was the most expensive child growing up and why? That's such a good question. That's really good. Because like we had different needs. I think it was definitely me. Just not because of like anything that like they were buying, but more like schools, lawyers. You know what I mean? Like the expensive shit. For me, it's like rehab. Like that show wasn't free? No, that's just not for me. I went to the jankiest fucking we have ever. It's always me and you,

you know what I mean? Like we were definitely the most expensive. But we also like, not to our own swag, but like we love to dress nice. And it's like they love to see us dress nice. Yeah. Like sorry you racist that way. Yeah. And so like I'm gonna, I'm not going for the most expensive thing, but I'm going for the most expensive, good looking thing. Yeah. You know what I mean? And you can tell the difference. Yeah. No, I agree. And I do think all our mental health issues, like we'd become more expensive. No, absolutely. Yeah. Like, there's definitely some side gigs that are expensive. I wasn't chosen to be born. That's what you're, you guys should have worn a condom. Like, I'm sorry.

We all also went to our own individual private schools, which is very expensive. We grew up in Boston. I don't think we were like the Boston public school system. They didn't have a choice, really. But if we grew up in Walser, Niedem or something Newton, like we would have done public school. But we grew up in the city, so it's different. Yeah. Someone said you let your brothers hook up with your friends. I don't know. Have you ever hooked up with one of my friends? I don't think so, honestly. But like Sammy has. Sammy has, yeah. Sammy's blessed a couple of my friends. Like I can name three off the top of my head. Yeah, I can't name any off the top of my head. But I think Sammy's worse than you, honestly. Really? In that realm, yeah. Yeah. I'd say so. Does the youngest really have it the easiest, do you think, talking about Sammy? I think who is the hardest who do you think who's the hardest like who has it the hardest like

sibling wise the oldest the middle child or the youngest who you think I mean we get the most fucking heat but like is because we're the middle children because we keep fucking up well I think no I think we're just like very different like we're wired differently you know like we make decisions like based on like what what we want not not what's not what's right Right, but what we want. We get caught up in the moment. Yeah, but it's not a bad thing. Like we're, we're, like, so.

I don't think my bad people. No, we're fun as fuck. We're really fun. But, like, we're also really polite and kind. That's, like, one thing that a lot of people, like, don't see or know is, like, people always used to say growing up. And still now, we are the most polite children you'll ever meet. Like, please thank you, Mrs. Mr. Always, like, always.

Knapkin on the lap. Always be a gentleman, but I always do. immature things not always but i'm saying just traditionally like yeah okay next question how much of your dating life do you share with your siblings this question from me oh shit we were just talking about this i um yeah i feel like i you don't know anything i don't know much about your dating life just because you don't date yeah you know i mean like you don't date like i don't bring anyone around mom and dad yeah like i don't need to know about like your hookup life but it's kind of like abysmal right now i'm in my sexual era you do your thing like i haven't talked up

with anyone in months everyone right now it needs to happen though everyone yeah everyone you know goes through their own phases but yeah you haven't dated enough people for me to know much about your dating life there's been guys you know about though that i haven't technically dated but i wanted to and they didn't want to date me and so what's the question like how are those people no like how much do i tell you about like if i'm like having boy trouble like or if i'm having like do i bring do i like not that much vent to you about guy i don't really i keep it all in i don't really vent to my girlfriends about that either yeah yeah i don't hear much about your dating life yeah i'm pretty private when it comes to that i mean it's also different you're my older sister

so like i feel like there's not much i can tell you if you were my younger sister i would go you know beat the kid up but like yeah i can't i can't have much say like i'm gonna be like that's my older sister. She says and does what she wants. I remember the old guy I was bringing around a couple summers ago? The semi-old guy, yeah. I thought he was old then. Well, like he was old for you, but he was like 11 years older than me. Yeah, but he's in his 30s. I wouldn't call that old or else a lot of people get offended. No, it wasn't old at all. It was like, but he like looked old. Lauren that whole time thought he was 46. I mean, he's, he looked weathered, like a leather chair. He looked weathered, finance, it'll do it to you.

You ever see those, like, clips of, like, people, like, doodling, and it's, like, finance people, and they're just going to be nuts. Is that on your free page? No, yeah, it is. What is your free page like? I saw Dad's the other day, and I was like, what the fuck is going on? My for you page is just, like, all, like, either fucked up shit or, like, sports. Like, just, like, a fucked up sense of humor in, like, sports. my sense humor is really fucked up too yeah like i wish i had like i would have like way more

stories to tell about you but like it's all just like fucked up humor that i can't say no yeah we can't but like nothing too bad yeah what sibling caused the most fights me really because i feel sam was a fucking temper on him oh no no no well i don't want to put it on him but like he definitely played his role in like ratting on us when he was a kid we used to set a picture of the beer pong table and yeah yeah just like little kid stuff but i also like put myself in his shoes like you know he didn't really have like a easy time like i remember this one time because we used to always have like semi-formal stuff or you know like after parties prom whatever yeah there was that one time where like brin had an after prom and there was people like hooking up in sammy's bed and he

came in with a fucking bad that's my guy i told him that he was like eight years old yeah he's like who are you yeah We were those people that, like, That's my guy. Mom, me dad, have a Jack and Jill closet to the guest bedroom. Guest bedroom, and there was people hooking up in there. Yeah. And Mom flipped out.

Some fucking idiots that we used to bring around. But, like, now we're, like, so much chiller compared to that. We just have, like, we're just older and people respect people's homes more. Yeah, like, we didn't get it then. Yeah. Like, how can we get in trouble now compared to the shit we used to do? Yeah. That's, like, my argument.

Which brother is your favorite to get Liddy with, or who's, the most fun liddy um okay well i have two brothers i guess well i guess i would say i mean i'm i get along with sammy so well now sammy's so fun to go out with but i feel like the things that we like to do when we go out is more on par with each other than like like sammy has like a limit yeah sammy is a limit me and like self-control yeah sammy knows how to go out like a normal person And we don't, we didn't get that trait. Not at all. Like, where did we go wrong?

Like, mom drank when we were in the womb? Honestly, there's, like, a lot of, like, sneaky alcoholism that runs through the fan. I mean, I ain't. Munchy. You're watching. No, no shade. No shade, but, like, we're all, like. We all like to booze.

I don't think there's anything wrong with that. No, there's nothing wrong with that. Dad likes to booze, too. You know what? I've thought about, like, coming off the booze. Have you ever thought about that? Going sober? Yeah.

Are you sober curious? I'm very sober curious. Um, no I never thought about that Never mind I'm not Well like I think I've been thinking about taking a break in September But then I also

This could be a bad thing And something I need to work on for sure I want to come back But also like I feel like sometimes my personality is dependent on I get all social anxiety sometimes randomly Don't don't get that like If you get social anxiety from like your job

like you shouldn't drink you're going to make it worse no I know it's an endless I deal with shit like that like when I'm anxious like I want to go to the bar and I want to go drink no when I'm anxious I kind of shut down but like I think oh I'm going out where I'm going to have to talk to a lot of people and like really be on and like my personality is really going to have to shine through and I don't think this is an original experience

where like you know you have a sip of wine or like some alcohol and it makes you like a little loose and like you feel like you're like more in like your element that's how I feel And I think this year I want to make it more of a goal It's like do some of these Because I go to events like every like five days a week Or a lot of the days of the week And I want to feel like I don't need alcohol

It's like be my funniest in like my social self Yeah I mean I just feel like I'm at the point where I kind of owe it to myself To show like what my like true Authentic self is like And like I feel like without Say alcohol or weed or even like a zen whatever you know what i mean like i feel like without all that you can never sit with yourself and your own thoughts and that's something like that's something i i deal with so like it's

almost like i want to prove to myself that i can actually hang out with myself without freaking out i like can't like i don't know i don't know if you know i know but then my sleeping situation is like i always have something play in the background yeah i like auditory i think sensory issues where i'll play rain sounds at night every night yeah like i need i need to like real housewives will always be on it's a little different than rain sounds a bunch of bitches yelling at each other but like that's a rain sound on because i'm so scared of silence yeah silence feels like you're with your own thoughts you have to like self-reflect and i hate that i hate yeah but like to get through maybe the painful aspects of self-reflection

you got a face to heat yeah you know and it's tough it's like childbirth it's not that i know what that is But, like, you know what I'm saying, I think, exactly. That's why, yeah. What sibling got caught the most? Me. Damn, these are, like, easy targeted questions. I know, they're all at me. Yeah, I got caught the most.

I was too, like, blatant about my shit. Who's mom and dad's favorite? Um, mom and dad's favorite would be young Samuel. You think? Or you. Like, I mean, or Bryn. I think, you know, like. just naming everyone but me it's like 19 of us no no i think you are just like so yourself and

like everyone loves like your energy i think they hate a lot of things about me too though okay but like fucking everyone hates everything about everyone you know what i'm like no one's perfect that's just the yeah yeah that's human nature but but i i would say dad that loves you dad loves me but i think he also values your personality the most yeah i mean me and dad share the same exact name and so that's a lot of like do you feel pressure in that oh man it's like yeah i can't yeah it's just like you're a junior yeah um we share the first for like same first middle last name so it's like obviously he's who he is and you know i think i'm great in a lot of ways but there's just so much like you know such a high standard that's like set and there is a lot of pressure and I think like sometimes the pressure can make

you like rebel a little bit yeah and like want to like test balance yeah I just want to like be like all right fuck it like I'll you know do what I want yeah I'd say we all have our turns being yeah I think that's the best answer you know I used to think it was Sammy and I think it was for a little bit yeah I mean like Sammy Sammy's awesome I have a million amazing things to say about Sammy but I also have like a million amazing things to say about all of us so yeah I do too I think we're all great in our own ways yeah I like that answer yeah is middle child syndrome a real thing yes what would you say middle what is it mean let me let me look it up actually because you get treated differently no I think you

rebel differently like there's a role that I agree with that there's a role that in oldest sibling plays and there's also a rule that a youngest sibling plays we're in the middle like we're bringing the fucking heat we're bringing the entertainment you know what it is I think the oldest sibling learns from the parents the second sibling learns from the oldest sibling and then I learn from you like you're doing fun shit that brin doesn't do so I want to do what you're doing and then sam sees how much of a shit show mean you can be and he's like I don't want to be that and brin like wants to take care of us yeah yeah yeah brin's like the mother figure and so like I think it's a great dynamic, if I'm being honest.

These are characteristics of middle children, high sense of independence, feelings of alienation, competitive, risk-taking, strong social skills, strong sharing behaviors, peacemakers, low self-esteem, flexible friendship skills. Yeah. That literally sums me up. We're also both Libra's. Yeah, we are both Libra's. A week exactly apart. Yeah. So I'm September 30th, Chad's October 7th.

It's a week of seven days. Yeah. It's just firstborns are like perfectionist, achievers, leaders, bossy, responsible. That can totally see Brin being that person. We are adaptable, independent, go-betweeners, people-pleasing, can be rebellious, feels left out. I don't feel that way ever. But peacemaker social. And the lastborns are social, charming, outgoing, unethical.

uncomplicated, manipulative. I don't agree with any of that. I don't agree with manipulative or seeks attention. Fun. And then there's a whole category for an only child. Whatever, yeah. Who is closest to who? Which siblings know your darkest secrets?

I'd say me and you. Yeah. I think. We have heart to hearts. I've gotten really close to Sammy too. You know, it's gotten really close with Sammy. And I think me and you may have, like, lost a little bit of our relationship just like through little things. outside factors yeah but I think um me when we're good we're the best I think traditionally like me

and you have always been like super close and like we just like understand each other we're on the same like wavelength yeah when we're feeling misunderstood you're like I get it and when you're misunderstood I'm like I think we know like I'm the last person to judge you're the last person to judge like not judgmental yeah and so like yeah I always felt like comfortable you know going to you about stuff just as like my older sister and I wonder I always wonder it would be like if I had older brothers like if you got it was roles reversed It probably annoying well like older brothers are like oh I got to protect you and I'll be like shut the fuck up yeah for like just you being older I'm just like do what you want I tell me to shut the fuck in other ways like I'm like oh I want yeah I want to Yeah obviously I'll protect you like when it comes down to it but like then it's like all right like do whatever the fuck you want you're all you're older than me you've seen more yeah more of this life than I have no I feel that what would you do if your sister was

dating a bum fucking ass loser and keeps lying you about it um like what if i was dating a fucking loser what would you do i would you tell me i'd probably tell him oh shit yeah like yo you're a fucking have we ever dated anyone that you're like fuck you no i i i because again i never like thought it was my place like you know like people were gonna date people who they feel like they like And if it works out, it works out. If it doesn't, then, you know, they'll learn for themselves. Am I, like, accurate? No, you're accurate.

But, like, if I was eating a fucking bum-ass loser, I'd want to be like... Oh, no, I've dated bum-ass before, for sure. I'd want you to be like, howl you're doing a bum-ass fucking loser geek. I know. But sometimes I just, like... You feel bad? No, sometimes it's like, it's not my business, you know? But like it is.

Because then, like... Unless it's, like, blatantly you're a fucking asshole to my sister and you suck. Then I'm going to be like, yeah. watch watch what you do to my sister but you know sometimes it's your business sometimes it can be mine you know what's the worst punishment your parents ever gave you um i know the answer to this honestly it might have been this week when they canceled the jet blue card the credit card yeah so i talked about this on call her daddy yeah because dad was like the jet blue cards canceled have fun good luck the morning i was just going to call her daddy and i was like why would you

say this yeah the morning of like a big interview it's funny because he'll email us too it's like bro text me that you're canceling it because i don't check email it off he emails us all and cced us yeah um wait i don't have access to his fucking jet blue card by the way and he lied to me about it we've had access to it the whole time i just wasn't using it because he told me it was canceled well i texted sammy sammy will always don't be like yo is that shit for real he's like cat yeah he said that to me too but like you respected him and didn't I just like he like wouldn't you also have your own money like yeah I'm so working on my own bank I was like using it way too much yeah and he like has access to like one of my bank accounts so he knows

what's in there and he was like why the fuck are you like still using my money and I was like no I get I get it but and obviously I'll have my own shit but no yeah yeah I do use his card for like Uber Uber eats like you probably like give the same name You could probably use his I could probably use his identity yeah yeah to get into like a lounge of airport yeah uses social security I don't know if you could pass for 65 true but all right I won't use it I don't use it anyway all right who gets the most compliments Sam Sam I just think it was me but I'm like Sammy's like I mean, you're just like, I think you're just like already, you've been yourself for so long that it's like, all right, that's Hallie. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Sam's changed. Like, he's gone from, you know, like a little boy to like a fucking man. Yeah. And he's proved himself a lot in recent years. So I think that's why he's obviously, you know, put on a pedestal a little bit recently. I will give it to Sammy, like, and I tell him this, like, he really wants to rush this era of his life where. he should be enjoying to like have a summer job on nantucket chilling and not worrying about like a

fucking private equity job like you have like the lee room to do that i think you should take advantage of that yeah and he wants to rush success so much and i think he's always looking to level up and always and he wants it to happen right now the conversation i had with him the other day was like bro you got like you've you've proved yourself don't worry like we know the trajectory that you're on in life and yeah you need to cut yourself a break or else you're gonna drive yourself you're going to you're or else you're going to hate every moment that you're in because you're not satisfied yeah so it's like you got to cut yourself a break enjoy the the moment enjoy where you've gotten yourself to and like more shit will happen but you got to be at peace with you know your accomplishments 100% yeah I was

deep after everything damn yeah fuck you know I get deep though I know I was just like I feel like I don't know what to say after. Like, you see something deep. I'm like, yeah, yeah. Like, okay. I'm like, weird, bro. Anyways. Thanks for coming on.

Is your oldest brother gay? Is that the question? This is a real question. Is your oldest brother gay? Me being the oldest brother? I'm assuming. No, I'm not. She probably sees you like, like, canoodling with Graden, like, probably thinks you're

like for the gays. I'll be gay with Graden any day, I won't. Anyone will be great. If you see me gay with Graden, look the other way. It's my fucking dog Did y'all ever beat the fucking absolute shit out of each other Or is it just mind games The way y'all fought

I mean you actually never really like fistfought Sam used to throw hands to me You and Sam used to throw hands Sam used to like I would have waltz on my head We were like really young You guys would throw hands And he was like 200 pounds Yeah

You and Bryn rarely did But I remember a couple occasions where you did Oh no no one really like threw hands with me Because that was too good No I'm not You would have fucking killed me But like we would do like crazy shit like take like a butter knife out of the kitchen and like remember that time you like chased me down

the street with the football bat yeah or a knife what's it a football bat wait wait what was that one time where I ran outside the street yeah I had a knife yeah you um sonny's like fuck yeah no I had a knife trying to scare you off and it worked the craziest shit would go down in nantucket like we used to be really into ding dong to jing in playing manhunt and and then we'd do that thing, invisible wire, remember? Throw rocks at houses, egg people's houses. Nome. Remember Nome?

Throw rocks at cars. When did you do that? I don't think I was doing that. Were you not there for that one? I was never throwing rocks at cars. Yeah. Sometimes you, like, going to take it to the next level. Yeah.

The adrenaline, I swear, the adrenaline rush when you're a kid is like. What also would you? What was our nightlife like in Nantuckoo when we were like between the ages of 10 to 15? We would go run around our neighborhood. We'd ding-dong ditch. Where was mom and dad? Where are babysitters? They were probably out and then back to the sleep.

You have to tell the story. When we were one of our neighbors that was renting, you went into their home and you found the mom's dildos. Oh, yeah. Yeah, these kids who like, honestly, we're fucking cute. Yeah, they were like little geeks, and they would always, like, you know, give me and Sammy lip because it was his older brother and his younger brother, and then it was me and Sam, we were both the same age. And so, like, it was just, like, these kids, you know, would say something.

Me and Sam would get, you know, on the defense and, like. They were fucking nerdy geeks. Yeah, but one time we went over their house and, like, I'm, like, rummaging through their mom's drawers and shit, and I found, like, maybe, like, 10 different. different toys like dildos 10 inch dildos oh my god and so I'm like fucking slapping her sons in the face with them like putting in their mouths yeah yeah like hiding behind the door and when they walk in like so diabolical and the mom was like we're renting it's like yeah yeah and then the mom like apologized to our parents like I'm sorry I think your son found some stuff that's not

really appropriate for his age. Dude. Funny times. Funny times, bro. What's your favorite thing about me and your least favorite thing about me? I think my least favorite thing about you is that sometimes I feel like you don't understand yourself worth. That's a good answer.

And I feel like a lot of your confidence comes out and, you know, through like some insecurity when really i think you're the shit in a lot of ways you think i put myself down too much or not even put yourself down but just like handle things in a non-confident way when really in reality you're i could be standing on business you could be standing on business like you know like a woman like yeah but i've gotten better at that no you have you have i used to be a lot worse i used to yeah i mean yeah and um you used to stop being a worthless whore yeah And I think my favorite thing about you is just like how cool, how funny you are. Like, again, your delivery with things is just like so spot on.

Literally, I've never met a girl who's like as cool and funny as you. And like I'm your, I'm not saying that just because I'm your brother. But like you, like, you impress me in like so many ways that like I haven't seen in any female who walks this earth. I feel like that's so kind Yeah, no, I mean it I mean it Wait, that was such a nice thing to say Yeah, you're just, you're very like

You're just like yourself and like you're You know Your delivery with things is like spot on I feel like it's taking me like a lot of like Years really coming to like Yeah and we both like you obviously You share the same thing in that way Where I always tell you and I try to uplift you

Where I'm like you could be doing exactly this And like content you don't need maybe having like corporate black and white job, I think you should be like, you know, belassing the world with your personality, which I think you should do. And I think, you know, I have a feeling in this next year you're gonna have a lot more opportunities

to do it, if you just like take that risk. Yeah, yeah, it's all about taking the risk and betting on yourself. Yeah. And making sure yourself is like your biggest and best investment. And I think I could, you know, do both, like pull off both, but.

Oh, you should do both. I mean, I don't, I can't, I can't have managed my, like I managed if I was a real estate broker right now. Honestly, I think down the road I would, I would do that. Yeah. I'd have to renew my license. Like, it's something to have in your back pocket, you know. Yeah, but it's a job that takes a lot of charisma.

No, it's also a job that takes, there's no, like, you're not walking into, like, a schedule, you know, you're not walking into someone's going to tell you what to do, how to do it. It's commission base. You learn from yourself, and it's not. It's kind of like this job kind of. You won't be rewarded until you, you, you know. close a deal. You know, being an influencer, I guess, technically I hate that fucking word,

but I am one, it is what you make of it. You can say no to things, you can say yes things, but also like, I'm not brand safe in a lot of ways. Clearly, I talk my mind on the internet, but I'm not gonna jeopardize that for a brand that I wanna make what, some cash off of just to support them. Like, I'm gonna keep to myself, always be authentically me.

And I feel like that has more longevity than being brand safe. Absolutely. Yeah. So just keep it real, keep it authentic. And I feel like you're gonna do some great things. Yeah, I know I can do anything, you know. I love that.

And I think. The sky's a limit. Yeah, sky's the limit. And it's just like, I guess picking a path and committing to that and putting your all into that one thing that is what I'm not waiting for, but just still deciding on. Yeah.

Obviously, I get upset about. where I'm at in life sometimes and like wish I was you know had the finance job where you're making comparison is the thief joy but yeah I rather I rather you know not sacrifice my happiness you know I rather do it something that I know I'm amazing I mean I was a late bloomer in that sense yeah I was a host a set crew until it's 25 yeah I really didn't figure it out and I was so lucky that I had that like yeah to have that space to figure it out Because a lot of people are age, my age, and even older, are in these jobs they fucking hate because they were forced into them. Yeah.

And I think you, like, you just, like, learn a lot about, like, you're not the only one who's in that position, you know? Like, so many, like, the most successful people out there are started when they were fucking 27 or whatever. It's life. And I don't think you should compare yourself to where other people, your friends are at. Yeah. Agreed. Whatever. I think that's a good place to end, though.

Yeah. brother i loved to have you on this was yeah so much fun i know i'm glad you should make you a co-host i know i was a little nervous at first but no once you get in a group of things it like becomes like just a conversation we were just like catching up brother and sister yeah we haven't caught up in a while so thanks for having me on anyways guys extra dirty thank you guys for listening as always you can watch on youtube and listen to me yap in bitch and whatever on every other platform like comment Subscribe. Say nice things. Don't be too mean to me, but I love you all and I will see you next week. Bessos. Bye guys. Bye.