Extra Dirty with Hallie Batchelder - The truth about us *ft. my Unwell boyfriend Andrew*

Episode Date: May 7, 2026

HE HAS LANDED IN NYC! 🏂 America's sweetheart, Hallie's Unwell Winter Games co-star Andrew Vetter joins the pod... and he came with wine and a letter. Hallie and Andrew break down how they met on set of the Unwell Winter Games, how Andrew got plucked from production to join the games, and how his life has changed since. Hallie gets Andrew's take on the questions we all want to know: how he approaches girls in public, family not liking your partner, being on a phone on a date, not being too comfortable in a relationship, and more! Enjoy besos! 💋 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

After the kiss, it panned like a you doing confessional. Yeah. And you go, so crazy. Like, I just saw this girl on an Abercambiad. It's true. And now I'm here making out with her on TV. That's true. And I was like, wait, I never did an Avicabiaad.

Let's get Extra Dirty. Welcome back to Extra Dirty Bar. I have my most favorite boyfriend with me, Andrew Vetter. Welcome to Extra Dirty. Thank you for having me. Are you happy to be here? I am, you know, I'm a little bit nervous. Why?

I'm not. It's my first podcast ever. This picture as like, we're on a date together. This is our first day. We're just going to get to know each other. There's so many things I don't know about you. I mean, we obviously did the unwell winter games together. But I don't like, do we even talk about the basics?

I don't think we did. Like, where are you from? No, yeah, where are you from? Like, do you have siblings? Like, what's your favorite color? Nothing. So let's start there. Like, well, first, actually, I always ask people, what are we pre-gaming?

We're pre-gaming this next chapter of life. You know, I don't know if you notice, but I'm in all-black right now. I'm warning the old me. We're moving on to bigger and better. So that's what we're pre-gaming. Are you, like, retiring the production hat and entering this new phase, new career of being America's sweetheart? I don't know if that's how I'd word it, but I think I am, I'm leaning. out of the production and into social media and a new wave of life, which has been exciting,

uncomfortable, weird, fun. I feel like you're good at it. I see all your little bits online. You do? Yeah. One of them got like a lot of views. Every now and then. Every now and then.

Sometimes they just hit. Sometimes they don't. And then you feel like an idiot and you got to do it again. You feel like, all right. I definitely should have never said that. No, but like when I, when you first start like content creation, like everyone has to go through like a period of time where like some of them do really viral and then some of them are just like it's kind of like shockingly no engagement at all you kind of have to go through that cringy

period to like see the light at the end of the tunnel well i'm in the cringy period so i wasn't saying you were in the cringy period i felt it but i'm saying that everyone goes through those growing pains like you can just like automatically be an overnight sensation although like i feel like you're on that route i will say i never expected this and And like I guess, as I said on the show, sometimes life has a way of choosing things for you. And so I'm just trying to ride this way of do what I can with it. I like it. Yeah.

I like it for you. That's nice to hear because sometimes I'm like, why the fuck did I post that? No, I do that. I mean, I post a lot of shocking things. I don't know if you've ever seen any of my content, but it's shocking. I've seen some of it. And I post a lot of it when I'm like out drinking with my friends. And then I just like kind of click upload.

And then I wake up the next day. And then, you know, my publicist is calling me and yelling at me. me and I don't know what's going on and it's an accident. Yeah, I got my first, my first publicist yelling at me the other day. Really? Actually, it was this morning. What did you do? I can't tell if you're...

I swear to God. You have a publicist now? I can't say, but I essentially said too much in a post. You said too much in a post? I said too much in a post. Where's the line? Where's the line? You're either saying too much or not enough.

A thing is like... What do they want from us? The internet, I will say... It's scary. It's a very... very scary place, especially when, you know, topics are hot or whatever. And things can be just taken and interpreted weirdly. And then people can create like a fake narrative around little parts of what you said.

Like, it's a lot. It is a lot. So like when you post a talking head video, how many times do you watch it back? Talking like me just talking to my phone. You're just talking to the camera. You're like, watch it once, send it. Watch it three times. Put it in your draft.

Maybe post it the next day. I mean, so I used to be with TikTok, especially, that's like my biggest platform. If I didn't like the cadence or like if I wasn't like doing comedic timing right, like I would record it like 10, 15 times. Yeah. And then by the 15th time, you just like it's not funny at all. No. You know what I mean? It's awkward almost.

Yeah. It gets worse and worse. By the second. Yeah. So I kind of just like, you're right. Like I try to rip it when I'm like feeling like creative or like in a silly mood where I just like feel like I have a funny thought and just like I feel like if you just like if you just like, I feel like if you just like, I feel like if you just. like one take, one take wonder, and then click upload. You gotta.

But then like I rewatch it all the time, especially if it's doing well, I'm like, yeah, he, like, woo. Yeah, that feels good. Yeah. That feels good. And then if it's not doing well, I'm like avoiding, not clicking on it. It's okay. But you just got to keep posting me because it's consistent.

That's good. I got you some wine. Should we pop it open? Yeah, I already opened it. This is the, this is the, I got her the Brunello. It's Italian 2019. really good year for wine. Just kidding.

I don't know that at all. I'm Italian. It felt right. It felt right. A little slice at home. Did you not know it? Like, I love red. You love red?

I love red. I'm a big red guy. You know who else loves red? Cameron's the man. Well, you also wrote me a letter and I want to... Can I read it? You can. This is so romantic.

I feel a little bit exposed, but... Do you not me want to read it? I can read it in bed later. The people need it. Okay. No one's ever wrote me. me a letter. Well, there's a first for everything. Okay, goes, dear Hallie, thank you for hosting me on Extra Dirty. From my first kiss on camera to my first podcast, thanks for showing me the ropes,

wishing you many blessings in the coming seasons. P.S., please no more jacuzis with other men, especially ones with dad bods, so that hurt. That is so cute. I meant every word of it. Especially the dad bodd part. Especially the dad bodd part. Because like, it's not the best look for you, no matter how you slice it.

It was the altitude, Andrew. It was the altitude. I was just a girl. Cheers to the altitude. Here's the altitude and to us. Our first state. Into not being on reality TV anymore. I mean, until next time.

This is the first time I've had a guy that I've made out with on my show. Really? Yeah. How does it feel? Like, I'm kind of nervous now too. Here's the thing. I'll never be as nervous as I was on the show.

Really? Like, I'm just- Nervous at all. Shout out the editor. He hooked it up because your boy was tripping. You were so good. He gave me a good at it. I will like, whoever did that, thank you.

I prayed to the gods for good at it. I mean, for people that don't know what we're talking about. We're kind of referring to a show right now. We were both on the unwell winter games. It's on the unwell YouTube. and we had a little showmands. And it was like five days of us in, where were we, Utah? Park City, Utah.

Doing activities. And then we headed back to the chalet at night. We got down and dirty. We had some fun. We did. We had some tears. She had some tears. We're going to get to all of that in a minute.

But I want to start out some basic stuff that I don't know about you. Yeah, let's get into it. Get into it. Let's get to know you first. Like, how old are you? I'm 32. You're 32? 32.

How did I not know that? I thought you were like 29. You have great skin. Thank you. But 32 is young. It is. Yeah, I feel as young as I've ever been. I feel good.

I feel healthy. You look healthy. I went through a lot in my 20s, like different jobs, different relationships, and it just kind of felt like nothing really stuck. So when all this happened and exploded, it felt like a long time coming for me. Oh, that's so cute. Yeah. What's your relationship status now?

That hurt my feelings. I'm single. You're single. I'm single, exploring. Figuring out how to date on the internet, which is a little bit weird. I mean, I always say Instagram's like the best dating out. It is. I've been no hinge, no whatever it is, Tinder, whatever all the apps are for like at least

eight years now. I've been clean. I can imagine your DMs are pretty good. Let's just say I went from having to give my best in the DMs and be texting all day to like offers and opportunities. overnight. Really? Yeah.

Offers and opportunities. Yeah, it's weird. From women? It's weird. Like, people are sending me, like, pictures of crevices of their bodies. Oh. Oh. They're coming up with a date idea.

They're telling me I would never bring another man into a jacuzzi, which seems pretty testing. They're crossing you. Do these people follow me? They do, and they keep asking me. You know, that's what I don't like about girls on the internet. That's probably why I would. I never post a guy that I was ever dating is because girls just want what someone else has.

It's like it's like psychology or some shit. It is. So because you're my man. Now they want you. It's fucked. It's fucked. You better have been like I'm taken. It's well, that's not exactly what I said.

Okay. But I did like the sound of them not getting in a jacuzzi with another man. You know, that's like, it seems like a minimum requirement. And I don't, you know, here's the thing, girls. Stop coming at Hale. right we were both single we were both totally free to explore what we wanted to explore you didn't you didn't cross any boundaries am i a sad boy at times and do things hurt me and do i get sensitive yes you also went off with juliet it's true i retaliated and you were wrestling with sariah

it's true i didn't wrestle with anyone there's actually there's a couple accounts that have no profile pictures who are DMing me like six times a day. Release the Soraya wrestle footage. Release it. Wait, I also was getting tagged in that. Were you getting? They're going crazy for it. I had like a full page of tagged photos.

I was confused by that. Her fans must be like kind of. I think WWE fans are like really intense. They're no joke. Like you don't want to cross them. WWE. Bravo. Unwell one chase.

Yes. Like kind of exactly. Actually, probably goes WWE Love Island, Bravo. Huda. Huda. Huda. Like the first 100 comments for the winter games.

Huda, Huda, Huda, need Huda on my screen. Here for Huda. I love how everyone's here just for Huda. Yeah, like, what about us? I was like scrolling trying to find my name. So is I would like Command F. Yeah, yeah. Like, oh, the producer boy seems cool.

It's like, all right. Wait, I feel like this pop comment. Like I saw so many edits of you. The edits were hilarious. The edits were like, they were thirst trapping you. They were. They kind of hooked it up. My guy friends would always send them to me like on the middle of a Wednesday.

I know. I was like Alex just like reposting them. Yeah, I've seen a couple of them. Those are funny. Please stop making them though. Please keep making them. Please like keep me out of this. I'm done.

So you grew up in the Bay Area? Grew up in the Bay Area. Then I went to school in Arizona where I met my best buddies who were in San Diego and then moved to San Diego right after college, live there for eight, nine years, and then got this opportunity to unwell, so I came up north. When did you start working at unwell? December 16th. Of last year?

Yeah. Are you loving it? Yeah, I love it. It's a really good fit. Like, I've always been the guy in my friend group who's had a foot in media, whether it be like music, YouTube golf videos, like my own little mini vlogs. I always like kept that close to me. so now like to be around everyone who's doing a similar thing yeah feels good it's fun like i enjoy it

what is your actual role at unwell i'm a creative producer that's working in the programming section so we do a lot of like planning and ideating for particularly our youtube content so the winter games was my first big project and uh now we're working on what's coming next i don't even know what's coming next. I don't either. How do you not know what's coming next? Well, I was not allowed to say. You're not allowed to tell me what's coming next. No, I can't tell you. I can't tell you. But it's exciting. It's exciting. We might we might be on their screen sometime soon. Yeah. I thought I thrived in front of a camera. I thought you did really well. Like you held your space well. You articulated well. I was nice. Was she? She was nice. I thought you were nice. When I told you in like with you.

I felt like it like it balanced the scales. It balanced the scales. Yeah. When did you say you were in like with me? Oh, it's like episode three. Episode three. Go go check in. Beginning of episode three.

Did you like watch it start to finish because I, there was some things I couldn't get myself to watch like the hot tub scene. But then I ended up watching the hot tub scene. But like the editing was so funny because it actually was like so like I was like this. What are you talking about? He was talking about astrology and like... That's crazy, dude. Who would have known he even knew his birth sign?

What's going on in Utah? Dude's on Aquarius talk. What do you should just be like, yo? Yeah. Like, he should have just used my line and been like, let's stop talking. And that was a great line. That was my favorite line. That one in the snowboarding line.

What was the snowboarding line? Basically, Lou was like, you ski, don't you mate? And I was like, no, I snowboard. Oh, yeah, I saw that. That's all the line was. You made your own edit. I did make my own edit. You made it at it.

I got it out of your own edits. Life of Reduce. So you do, you have like your own YouTube stuff? Yeah, I got. So that was actually how I initially got the job. When I met Matt, I had just started my own YouTube channel, which was doing YouTube golf content. Are you good golfer?

You know, it comes and goes, but I grew up playing. So. So yeah, so you're just being humble. I'm good one day and I'm bad the next. Tell me things you're good at right now. All board sports. Okay. basketball, golf, and reading a room.

I feel like I have like antennas. I can like feel what everyone's feeling. You're an impa. One of those words. I'm also kind of the same way. Pick up on people's energy. If it's negative, it's like a dark cloud, I like kind of like absorb it like a sponge. I don't like it.

Like same thing goes for like positive vibes too. Yeah. Yeah. Were you referring to me, my positive vibe? Yeah, I like, I was attracted to your positive vibes. I feel like it was magnetic. Remember we first? I said I did one another.

It was in the kitchen, right? This is what before they pulled you. Yeah. And we had some strong eye contact. The eye contact? It was there. It's not talked about enough. It's no one.

I wish cameras are up for the eye contact. And people are scared to eye contact these days. I have a thing on eye contact where like I don't like to break it first. I feel like it's a sign of weakness if you break eye contact first. We'd be a deadly. combo though. No, I know. We were just staring each other for like hours. We look really weird in public. We're just like, it's not blinking at all. I'm the same way. And I feel like with phones now, everyone's like up, down, up, that, like, looking around. If someone's like, scared to make eye contact,

redfly. No, like, but if a girl or a guy just makes eye contact me across the room, I just stare them down until they look away. It's like a game of chicken. I like that. It's a power room. I like that. You could never ever power me with it, though. No, I feel like some people, like, won't work on and then it gets awkward. Someone's got to bow out at some point. Well, someone told me the other day, like, you got to look less in my eyes. You think you make too much eye contact? No, I think they don't make enough.

I was in a special case. No, you were a special case. Yeah. I mean, roll the clips. Roll the clips. You were a special case. Eye contact is hot. It is.

Yes. It's connecting. But is there such thing as too much eye contact, I guess? Maybe not for. Not for a guy like me. I'm all eye contact. We got to balance the scales. Yeah, we got to balance.

I don't know what that means. It means like... I'm a little Libra, so I'm all about balancing the scales. I thought you just said you didn't know what it means. But like I'm interpreting it. You got to know. It's like everyone's no eye contact, so it's like no eye contact is super heavy. And then we make all the eye contact to balance the scales.

Okay. That's very philosophical. Science. Did you go to college? I did. Where? University of Arizona. Oh, so you like to party?

You don't look like a partier, though. I'm not, I'm not anymore. Like, in that era, it was, like, the cool thing to do, so I did it. But I was, like, starting to lose my own essence, the more I did it. Like, the more you partied and went out? Yeah, like, at first, I joined a fraternity, and it was the cool thing to do, and I made friends, and you're doing the kegstands and whatever it is. And then I think I just started to, like, fall a little bit between the cracks.

And then that's when I started to like make music and like develop my own like things that I like to do. What instruments do you play? I play guitar, piano, ukulele, and bass. You're like a multifaceted person. I have no hobbies. You don't. Like what do you think I'm good at? I feel like you'd be great at knitting.

I actually, you know what I mean? I actually was. I had to learn how to knit when I was in rehab once, twice. But like I got really good at knitting. Yeah, you know, I think you'd be like incredible knitting. That's sweet. You kind of just like sit there with your legs cross. You just like knit and like stare at people.

Like just don't look down at what I'm knitting. 100% across. Like pick up knitting. You know what else you could be good at? What? Not the person who plays golf, but like the person who rides in the cart. I would be a good golf cart writer. You'd be great at that.

Didn't give out of the beverages? Yeah. You could like support. Like every now and then you'd be like, nice shot. Wait, yeah, I could do that Yeah Do you think Could you see me do any contact sports?

You know, I think you're feisterer Than they give you credit for Like, right, so when I did the ski challenge You were kind of good at skiing But like he's heavier and he's a guy Yeah, what was the deal with that? He doesn't strike me as an athlete. Love the guy.

He's got like a 10 pack. A y'all What's the deal with that? You know, let's bring this to the surface How ripped is too rift? Like does it make you uncomfortable a little bit? Like where's the line? in here.

I don't like too shredded. That's what I'm saying. Like I like, but I don't like Doey either. I mean, I'm not going to sit here. I don't know. Run the tapes. Oh, God.

Run the tapes. Does she not like Doey? I can't wait to clip that. I'm going to clip it myself. Okay, you're going to edit that episode. I'm going to edit that one. Okay. I think there's such thing as too ripped.

I don't like veins protruding. Like some vascularness is hard. Yeah. I think it all depends on how tall, tall to ripped ratio is. So like you can't be like if you're too short, you can't be too ripped, if you're too tall. Yeah,

where's the ratio? If you're too short and extremely ripped, you kind of start to look like an action figure. But like that's all the short guys have. Like if they're not ripped, then where, what are you? You can start a business as a short guy. I don't like don't for the gym much. You don't.

You're just like naturally like look like you're, in good shape. I'm like very thin, but like I'm like kind of just like a little stick figure. What's fake tits? I think you're more than that. I think you're more than that. See, I don't go to the gym because I'm cool. I go to the gym because like my mind goes crazy and it's how I calm it. There's a little like Tasmanian devil in me that if I don't get the energy out, get the energy out, then I'm crazy. I have like kind of this like fear of going to the gym now that I haven't been in so long. Really? Like, I'm scared to, like, lift in front of other people.

Like, what if I drop it on my toe and, like, have to, like, limp out of there or something? I mean, like, sometimes the only way to beat a fear is to go towards it. So. What are you scared of? I think I'm scared of, like, being seen and being judged. Really? Yeah, I think that's been a big thing for me through this whole thing is, like, I feel like on a soul level, I'm like, this is all supposed to happen. But also, it's like, I'm scared of people judging me and seeing me. So I constantly have to like climb that hurdle to post stuff.

I mean, people are going to judge you regardless, whether you're a camera forward or not. I think that's just like the nature of, you know, humans, unfortunately. But also, I mean, were you getting hate comments? There was one. It's funny. You can see all these positives and the one is just like, stabs you in the heart. You always focus on link that one. Yeah, yeah.

It was like, uh, oh, Andrew, all he is is hot until he opens his mouth. and then he's just stupid or something like that and I was like that like that like isn't even me like have you been called like an ugly dumb cunt on the internet I'd be I'd rather that really maybe not like I've been called a worthless horror oh my god all the names look yo chill internet like no chill internet what the fuck worthless you got a podcast you're about to be a really good knitter I'm about to like I'm gonna knit you a sweater please when you start your podcast you brought me wine. I'm going to bring you a hand knit. Wait, well, I like this. So if I were to start a podcast, what do you think it would be about

and what would it be called? Maybe not what it's called. Let's like, we can chill a little bit. I think the, um, con just based off what I've seen you post, you're very like, not philosophical, maybe a bit philosophical, but like kind of like uplifting and motivating. Okay. Like you have like a really positive outlook on life. I feel like you should tap into that a little bit. Is there anything you're passionate about like topic wise i like mental i like like like i'm really into biohacking and just figuring out how to optimize the human state which i'm into for sure that was a little bit extra like but no i tell me more about that because like i could probably i could probably learn a couple things all the podcasts i listened to are like biohacking which just has to do with like

different things you can do to optimize your internal system to feel good i think i do the complete opposite of that. I like bio degrade hack. I find different ways where I can like make myself feel absolutely worse. Okay. I think like we could take a little bit from each other. Yeah, we can be in the middle of something. Yeah, like I could chill on some of this stuff and then I could lock in. Yeah. Yeah. So I'll send you some podcast for you to lock into. Yeah. You send me some like chill stuff that's like. Do you have ADHD? 100%. They diagnosed me when I was young. I have so many different. letters at the alphabet when it comes to that stuff. I mean, PhD, OCD, I have a lot of things.

Here's the thing with all these ADDs, EODs, L-O, whatever the fuck it is. Like the L-O-Ls, like the L-O-Ls. Like, it's really just a label that sometimes you get stuck inside of. It's like, for example, they said I had ADD, so it was hard for me to sit and listen in class. But also, like, the positive of that is that my brain like goes and I'm constantly coming up with ideas and I can like freestyle rap on the flip of a coin. You can? There's positives on for every negative of like those situations.

So I don't think ADD is a bad thing. I think we got to like be a little careful as a society of just saying we have ADD and it's a problem. Because it's like the same thing that made it hard for me to focus in school is the same thing that made me do good in the winter games. Yeah. It's like I'm just saying the most random stuff you can think of. I kind of feel like people with ADD or ADHD are like the most creative in a way. Every time. Yeah.

Like, and then they put me on Adderall when I was a junior in high school. I got like straight A's off rip. Yeah. I was like barely passing and I turned into just some God in school. Yeah, but it kind of makes you feel like shit. Like you feel cracked out. I felt like shit. And then the day I stopped taking it, I remember I started Googling like, why do I feel empty inside?

It's like, that's how fuck did it is. The calm down from Adderall is needs to be studied because I too was diagnosed when I was in seventh grade and like ADHD, a lot of different things. I've been on it, but I'm on nothing right now. But like when you took Adderall, I used to only take it to study for finals or for tests and stuff like that or write paper. The calm down is like so depressing. So depressing. Because it's essentially just blasting your system with all these feel good chemicals. So you can just sit and it's like meth.

Like, no, it's literally, isn't it like one like, chromosome away or something? Yeah, something. I'm not. Don't quote us. Don't quote me. Do not quote us, but it is one chromosome away from meth. No, yeah.

It was, um, but like those are the times to be alive. I mean, it was amazing. Like, when I started acing Spanish, p. Are you fluent in Spanish too? No. What do you not? No one. I don't speak a language.

But you can rap? I can rap, yeah. rap right now rap about me nah it's not the time you can't force a vibe we're not vibing this is a vibe

but you can't just throw for like you're not playing an instrument like people aren't around me yeah I feel like maybe after we finish a little bit more while we can maybe wrap I might try okay all right let's talk about the Unwell winner games

let's talk about it like from start to finish so So explain to our friends here how you were asked to be on. Because everyone thinks you're an industry plan. I saw those articles. They're bringing me so much joy. You were like People Mag or something.

Was it Us Weekly? I think it was Cosmopolitan. I think there was a few, honestly. It's all the same to me. Yeah. You're like, I don't get it. So it's like... I mean, it's kind of sick.

Essentially, like, the way I explain it is it was a cosmic explosion of destiny. Basically showed up to set. My boss called me and was like, yo, like, come down to the parking lot. We want to meet you here. We got some things for you to do. I went to the parking lot. I was standing there. She started asking me all these like weird random questions.

And I saw Alex come around the corner with all the camera crew. And then they started to turn to me. And I was like, oh my God. You really goes, what? I'm like, oh, my God, are they going to put me in? And then I heard Andrew. And then I walked into the camera And then from that moment on it was over

Yeah Kendall Washington from Love Island dropped out And they got an idea They were like what if we put Andrew in And like have it be part of the show Well it was kind of like the best plot for us ever And everyone thinks it was like orchestrated But like Kendall actually missed his flight

He actually apparently he was drinking too much And then missed the flight Like Love Island will get to you Yeah He was like in LA I remember him texting me like I'm supposed to come tomorrow and just like never happened.

Yeah. Like, oh, how? Were you excited? Were you, when you were cast in the show? Were you, like, nervous? Or, like, what was your? I was super nervous, but at the same time, it felt like a really cool opportunity.

And so I was just rolled with the punches. Were you, like, I can do a show like this because I grew up playing sports? Like, you grew up playing sports. You are competitive, it seems. Yeah, and I had just enough experience in front of the camera. And, like, I just started to do this YouTube golf stuff. and I had been in front of the camera for different things throughout my 20s.

And so I was like, I'm ready. I will say, so we paired up first challenge, you chose me. Yeah. Or we chose each other. We chose each other. I think we were pretty eye contact. Yeah, we were I contacted up at that point. Yeah, at that point we were locked.

There was their left. We were sitting next to each other. Yeah. So it was like. But it was mainly the eye contact. I'm a big signs guy. Like, if I'm next to you, it's a sign. We were at a disadvantage for the first challenge.

The first challenge being like we had to guess how many followers people had after like going around the course. Yeah. On a what's it called snowmobile? Snowmobile, yeah. And if you think about it, like everyone that went through that challenge, if they paid attention to each person, what they put up for themselves of how many followers they had. The last people, if they paid attention to every single person doing that, they could have won. Exactly. Us, we were first.

No one had gone before us. No. I mean, I almost got eliminated. We had to talk about that. We do. Yeah. So what made you want to swoop in and save me? Like you said, eye contact can only go so far.

I knew I figured it was going to be skiing, snowboarding, definitely not beer pong, which is also a strong suit. So I was like, all right, let me step in and whip this guy in snowboarding and come back. Yeah, I mean, I'm so glad. Honestly, I didn't have to do that. It was the sweetest thing ever that you stepped in. But, like, honestly, beer pong is, I'm so bad at it because I'm so crazy. cross-eye, my depth perception, I would have like been throwing it at Louis' head.

Yeah. Well, then thank the Lord. Then thank the Lord. I mean, I still lost it anyway. I don't know how you started off so strong. I started so strong. And then the pressure got to me. I started imagining the 10K. I haven't made that much money in all of my 20s.

Like, fuck, ever. Holy shit. That's a lot. But then you got eliminated. Yeah. And then you came back as a bartender. That was the craziest part of it all. I didn't see them letting you go like that.

Like I had a feeling that they were going to bring you back in some capacity. I didn't have that feeling. Because we were in love at that point. Well, I remember after the beer pong scene, like, I just had a smile ear to ear because it was like, you know what? What a life experience. Like, so I was so content at that point. I think life has a way of like when you're at peace and when you're grateful for what you have, it'll give you more. And in that moment, I just.

Alex popped back up and was like wardrobe's weight and you're going back as the bartender. And then we had our first reality TV kiss. We did. Wait, well, can we talk about that? I was so nervous on that scene. No, I was nervous. I couldn't, I couldn't watch it. It was a great kiss though.

It was. It was a great kiss. It was a good kiss. But like, I will say I've never kissed on TV like that either. There's just four random men like with cameras at all angles. Just like there. It felt like there was eight. It felt like there was a whole audience.

And the light was getting brighter too. And they were just like silent. They were like say something. What are they going to say? That was like grown or moor or something. Not actually don't do that. Cheers on. Yeah, I felt like we could have used some moral support there.

And they were just like silent little. They were just like. And then I was like, wait a second. My mom's going to watch this. Did your mom watch it? She did. What did she think of me? I'll say this

My mom was bizarrely supportive That was what I was most nervous for My mom to see it Because you know We're drinking It's a fun environment Like it's a very controlled party Like version of yourself

And so I was like Oh no mama bear is gonna have to see this But I mean my parents didn't even know I went on it I asked them if they saw it the other day They were like what show are you talking? about. See, that's the dream. And I was like, you don't need to go see it because there's, I just did too much. That's the dream. I mean, knowing my mom, she watched the first episode and was like,

that's my sweetie and then never saw the rest. Yeah. Yeah. You know, which is like probably best. Yeah, fingers crossed. Yeah. Yeah. I think like overall I'm, I'm, I'm proud of how I handled it and like, yeah, just it is. The kids or the show? Like the whole show. Yeah. After the kiss, it panned to like a you doing confessional. Yeah. And you go, so crazy. Like, I just saw this girl on an Abercrombie ad. That's true.

And now I'm here, making out with her on TV. That's true. And I was, like, watching it. I was like, wait, I never did an Abercombi ad. You were, like, 30 feet big at the San Diego Mall. Like, right above the Abercrombie store. Wait, I think it was garage. I mean, it's all the same.

Listen, what company, like, you were, I, I'd, I read it was my good wipes ad. No, you were like, you were mug in the camera. You were no toilet, no toilet involved. And it was right when I had got hired by Unwell and I was walking through the mall with one of my good buddies, Brady. Shout out Brady. Shout out Brady. And she was like, you know who that is?

And I was like, no clue. Sorry I didn't know. She was like, that's Hallie Batchelder. Like she has a podcast for Unwell. Boom, boom, bang, bang. And I was like, oh my God. Like, she looks great. Oh.

Thank you. And so then when it was happening, I was like, what a story that I saw you at the mall a couple months ago. I mean, that is kind of crazy. Honestly, I didn't even know. I was in these malls. It was like 30, it was a 30-foot poster. Was it a good, it was a good picture?

Best photo you've ever taken. Oh, God. Like, the fact that they didn't call you and tell you to come check it out. No, because I was in every vestibule of a garage store for a good amount of time. Was I wearing purple? I thought you were in like a white wife beater kind of. kind of vibe. You're in like a white tank. Okay, did you feel competitiveness with any other guys in the house over girls or?

No, that's not my bot. Like, I set it on camera. What's meant to be, will be. If you want me, beautiful, we can go from there. If you want someone else, I set you free. And that's fine. It's not because I'm like Buddha. It's because like I've been hurt from chasing people that don't want me back. Like you didn't want to chase. Yeah. I think I was just like acting to freely maybe I don't know I maybe was in the wrong for that in hindsight maybe I shouldn't have been in the hot tub with I am we didn't end up doing anything in the hot tub I know but but we can be we can be honest we can balance the scales we can balance the scales because we were both single

yeah you didn't owe me anything you could have meet out with anyone too I could have but you didn't because I didn't because I'm a good guy. So I'm the bad guy. I was the bad guy. Which something tells me you kind of enjoy being. No, I was just, you know, testing dipping my toe in different pawns. Which is valid. When I had a perfectly good pond in front of me. Well, I appreciate the sentiment. Yeah. So I guess this is my formal apology. First of all, thank you for the apology. Of course. You forgive me. I forgive you.

You know, I forgave you when I watched him talk your off in the jacuzzi. I was like, I was honestly punishing myself. I thought no one deserves that. What's the saying? He was talking to dog off a meat wagon. Like he could have just kept going. Yeah, like he could have been just talking to the jacuzzi jets.

You probably could actually just like quietly gotten out and he would have kept talking. I could have laughed at. I don't think he would have known any idea. No, not at all. Not a clue. Not at all. Like I don't even know what we were talking about.

I know astrology. All I know he's in Aquarius. Commitment. And then did you see when he was like, do you actually have a crush on me? And I was like, yes. And then I panace.

the confession like oh no that was kind of your vibe loki i felt like everything sweet i said you would like bat it down with something that was just like i am what let's get into this like what's really is this like is this your way of protecting your heart like why do you feel like you always have to keep your options open i think maybe because i just feel like guys typically like treat me as an option so i just want to be like playing, being like a woman in a man's field. Like if they're going to keep their options open, I'm going to keep my options open.

Which doesn't mean it's always the case that it's like that. But I would rather like, you know, maybe it's just like a validation thing. I want to get validation from multiple people. So I don't like crash out over one person. I tend to put all my eggs in one basket and usually bites me in the ass. You tend to put all your eggs in one basket and it bites you in the ass. When was the last time?

You put your eggs in one basket and it bit you in the ass. This is starting to therapy. Easter. No, I don't know. The last time I like generally like really like someone where I was like shutting everyone else out. Maybe over a year. I like this guy last year a lot. But looking back like I don't even know how I.

I think it was just like winter. And I just like really like needed a warm body near me. I get that. Winter is tough. Seasonal depression. I think I was just like really in the midst of that. Yeah, comfort's a deadly drug. Yeah.

And just like, I don't know, before that though, probably not for like three years, four years, where I've generally really liked someone. But then like the last guy I really liked, he screwed me over in a really big way. So I was like, fuck that. So you feel like by you keeping your options over, you protect yourself from getting screwed over?

Yeah, I also feel like, liking someone a lot is not a good look on me. I don't wear it well. I kind of get, like, insecure rather than, like, be a bad bitch and be like, this is how it should be treated. I'm more, like, ignoring all the red flags and being, like, giving people the benefit of the doubt until, like, until it's, like, really bad.

Until, like, they can just feel like they can walk all over me and do whatever. So until I figure that out and myself, I kind of keep a guard up. Yeah. It's intense. This is becoming therapy. It really is. I mean, I get it too. Like, I'm a similar way.

Like, when I care about someone, then, like, my insecurities do come out. Yeah. And I feel like it's, like, a similar cycle I've been in the last few years of, like, oh, I start to care. Let me, like, protect myself and pull away. Yeah, I become my own worst enemy. Yeah. But I'm getting older, so I'm going to have to, like, settle down eventually.

I mean, you don't have to do anything. Like... I want to have kids in a family, though. Yeah? Yeah. I really want kids. I love kids. Yeah, same. Do you want kids?

I do, yeah. You want to get married one day? I want to raise a family. Like, I really do want to raise a family. I don't know. Like, for me, I'm open to how that looks. And, like, I just, I question, like, the whole marriage thing and, like, what it really is. Yeah, you think it's, like, kind of, like, a social construct, like.

Yeah, like without getting too like hippy and spiritual about it. I had a feeling you would get hippie and spiritual about this. I want to like connect with someone on a level where like we want to be with each other and we choose that every day and we're not just like binded by marriage because that's the thing to do. So I'm open to marriage and I would get married if it was right. But I'm not like I want to get married, you know? Yeah. And honestly that like piece of paper that binds you to someone legally can make things a lot more complicated. Totally. Totally. Totally.

But I mean, I'm open to it. I feel like kind of ready to settle down in some ways. I mean, you're 32. 32. I feel like you solve some time. Guys, like, have more time than not. We do. Girls. Well, it's interesting, too. Now, like, being in the, like, I'm not going to say influencer space, but being in the, like, social media space and, like, the TV space, it feels like being in a steady relationship, like, directly goes against that.

And it's like to live this life, sometimes I feel like I have to be single, which is like kind of conflicting with my heart because I do want to settle down. I will say that I feel like since I've been in this space, I feel like dating in general has become more of like a chore and it makes things a bit more complicated. It does. I don't know. People's intentions are sometimes always the purest and also like, Yeah.

Especially with the show, I mean, shows called Extra Dirty. I say I've said a lot of things. Totally. I think that kind of can either, like, I don't know, some guys the wrong way. Yeah. I mean, you're going to need, like, a strong dude who, like, doesn't waver and doesn't go to fuck what you say.

I mean, I've talked about this with Alex before because, and, like, obviously, like, the OG days of Colorado daddy, they were saying crazy or shit. But, like, someone that's, like, kind of, like, industry adjacent that, like, doesn't really care, like. gets that like this is a job also in a lot of ways and just like lets you kind of rock with it. Yeah. I admire her relationship with Matt in a lot of ways for that reason.

Yeah, I feel like he's really good at like letting her be the full her. Yeah. And like. And like supports everything. Yeah. She does. So who have you kept in touch with from the cast? I've kept in touch with Saraya.

I heard you guys been hanging out. Yeah. She's like a like a guardian angel big sister to me. I like love her. She's fucking incredible. You know what's weird, not to interrupt you, but like they, her and Ecken were like talking like shit about me the first episode. They were. Yeah.

But I think by the end of it, they liked me. They did. Yeah. And you do like in their defense. No, I get it. The way it was edited too. I was like. They get you like that.

Like it may be like, you know, there's a little bit of truth in it and you can smile like three percent more. I think we would love that So tired Those days It was exhausting Like I think that's one thing About reality TV I had no idea

Like every day Getting out of bed Was so hard You're so drained There's so much adrenaline You're overthinking Everything you said So like anyone who's done

The Bachelor Love Island Like Pros Respect This was five days Every day I thought I couldn't do it anymore And we're allowed

To keep our phones Yeah it was apparently a very lax environment. I was like kind of spiraling. I was spiraling too in on camera. Definitely spiraling. Who spiraled the most? I think.

Probably me. I'm in enough. There was a couple times I like snapped a little bit at people. Like I was getting pissed at. Yeah. Like when I almost got eliminated, I drank like three gin martinis. I'm not good on gin.

And I just remember being like, what the fuck? Like, why would I like like, come all the way here just like almost get booted off. I didn't know it was an elimination show. Yeah. There were some interesting personalities on the show that like I, I ended up loving it at the end. But the first day, I was like, oh, I can't really about to do this for like five days.

You know what's so interesting? As a producer, I remember watching you guys arrive. And my thought was like, that looks so fun and easy. Like, you get to get dressed in wardrobe, like, mess around on camera, do whatever you want. And then when I switched over, it's like a lot of waiting. It's like, whoa, this is like actually really hard. And then I look at production and be like, that looks easy. Like they're chilling.

Yeah, they're just chilling. They're just chilling. But the truth is neither are true. Like both have their own hardships. Like I think being in front of the camera is like harder on the soul and like the ego. And being behind like the production side is harder like on your body and like physically and like all the work you out it's it's more physical work but in front of the cameras like mental work were you one of those people that were watching all the cameras inside of that

wasn't it like a tv village or something like that was mostly Alex like she was I didn't really was calling the shots I didn't realize like how in the weed she was in the background it was fun like tilt the next one it was fun I mean I honestly think I'm retired like I don't know if my heart can take anymore. Are you sensitive? I'm sensitive, yeah. I feel like you were so good though. See, for me, like, and maybe I'm critical of myself, like, it was painful to watch.

A lot of the things I said, painful. I thought you were so good. Thank you. Thank you. And what I'm learning is, like, the human predicament is that you actually can't see yourself or tell what you're like. So it's been nice to like hear things like this. That's like, oh, like I liked you on the show.

It's like, cool. Like that's nice to hear. That's healing. I think everyone liked you on the show. You were funny. You were charismatic. You were engaging. You were present.

And you like made everyone, you involved everyone. Like there was not one person. I feel like you didn't like touch on. Yeah, like talk to. Not like touch on physically, but like you engaged with every single person that kind of brought everywhere. Like the glue. Oh. Yeah, that's nice.

That's like, it's been very... Nice girl. She's nice, guys. Stop coming for her in my DM. She's a good girl. I'm a great girl. Thank you though. That is nice to hear.

Of course. Because I tend to worry about the bad things or like the things I didn't say. I mean, you always like focus on like what you could have done or like the negative, the fewer negative comments you get. Like you're like, okay, I'm hyper focused on that. But like usually the podcast. positive, always the negative. Yeah. Or else you wouldn't like have gained all those followers.

Yeah, totally. Yeah, yeah. I was like, my biggest fear was not being accepted by the public. And to have them like accept me with open arms has been really cool. Yeah, yeah. It's amazing. We're going to do a segment, just questions. I want just the male perspective on.

They're like kind of, they're very easy questions. And then we'll be wrapping up. All right. Cue the hard questions. You the hard questions. Have you ever soft launch with someone? I'm a hard launch guy Like I'm like

It's December 31st I'm like happy birthday babe I love you till the end of time And then we break up in six months Oh I feel like that's kind of like our curse I don't think I've ever hard launched Oh I might have invented hard launching Like do you like an infeed

Like you down on one knee It's like I'm passionate So like when I'm into someone I'm like let me like let me wear this with pride I like that That's cute What do you think the rules should be for posting your partner on social media?

I think you've got to communicate about it. I don't think there's any rules as long as you're on the same page. But I will say this. I feel for the guy who doesn't like to take photos and the girl is posting him all the time. Stop doing that. We don't want to watch him be uncomfortable. Yeah, because then I like people, I mean, I see a lot of influencers do that or you can tell like their boyfriend really doesn't like he's in finance or something. thing and like he doesn't want to be in front of the camera or want to be involved with

a huge audience and you can tell he's like visibly uncomfortable but then their audience just interprets that as like oh he doesn't like her totally and then it like totally I can just I don't want anyone involved in my relationship I'm the same way I think no rules but you got to communicate and be on the same page about it I like that do you approach girls at the bar Or what are your technique? Yeah. I mean, I've been off dating apps like since God knows when. So for me it's like I approach on walks, coffee shops.

Every now and then bars. Like bars is probably the worst place to approach people. So like I like daytime activities where we're being healthy. People feel good. I've approached on some walks. Yeah. Like, hey, I saw you walk in. It's a powerful walk.

Like, are you? What's up? You, that's a powerful. Like you're like your stride. I love your stride. Like you got a good stride. I love the way you walk. Yeah.

Keep walking. Like walk to the beat of your drum. Walk. You know what I mean? How do you approach someone at a coffee shop? Sometimes you're like maybe you run into each other in the line and you start a small talk. And then they go sit down and you walk up and you're like, hey like I saw you over here. Like I would be disappointed in myself if I didn't come say hi.

I'm Andrew. And then like you take it from there. And that works? Can I go to coffee shops more? I don't really do daytime activities. Daytime activities are the best for meeting people. It's hard to meet people in night. I guess that's true.

Sometimes you can meet them at a pregame and then it can escalate. I don't know if I've ever had a successful approach at the bar and it works. Maybe I think that it works better because you're like a little looser and like, but then it's like... It's dark. They're like protecting themselves. A bunch of like Giraldos have approached them and try. and so they're just like tired and then you're like hey and they're like fuck you yeah actually fuck you're like actually no you're like I didn't ask yet but like how's your day they're

like I have five boyfriends do you live in L.A. right now yeah no I'm in L.A. I love it I'm just like there's so many hot girls in L.A but there's even hot girls in New York yeah the New York girls are like more beautiful they dress well but San Diego and there's a lot of beautiful girls out there too healthy ones. Yeah, the people in LA and San Diego or California in general are definitely a lot healthier than us, East coasters. Totally. East coasters are like low-key junkies.

Low-key junkies. You know what I mean? Like, like low-key. Like, high-key. Like high-key. Yeah, yeah, maybe high-key. Not you, though. Not me.

No. Never, never. You're a queen. Have you ever had a situation where your friends don't like your girlfriend? Is that a death sentence for the release? I have never, but I've had one where my sister didn't like my girlfriend. Oh, that's even worse. Oh, man, it's so bad.

It's so bad. And I'm not going to say she was right, but she was on to something. So I think it's important to listen, but you got to trust your gut. I don't know. Like, with sisters, not like, I mean, I have two younger brothers. Okay. Is this an older sister? Yeah, older sister.

Yeah. So she's like. We're like a bit more judgmental, I guess. No bullshit. No bullshit at all. And almost like we can read, like, they're just so perceptive to younger girls' actions. Like I would watch my brother date these girls and I'm like, I can read these girls like a book. Like they're just like.

That's exactly what it is. I'm seeing things that you're not seeing because I'm not sleeping with them. Yeah. You know? But we're usually right. You're usually right. And like shout out my sister, Charlotte, I love you. You were kind of right on this one.

But also you could have been a little more welcoming. They're nice. You know Charlotte's my middle name? It's a random part. I just want to throw out there. Are we flirting? Wait, I love these questions. Keep them coming.

No, these are good. These are good. You come up with these? No, Marshall. Shout out Marshall. Marshall. Would you be okay with your partner being the provider?

You're hippie-ish. So, like, I'm honestly shocked. You'd be like, honestly, yeah. First of all, don't call me hippie-ish. That hurts. I don't know why, but it does. You call it yourself hippie-ish. I can do that.

Okay. All right. I'm going to say no. Like, I feel like I would love to be the provider. And like I want to handle shit. I want to, I want to be the ringleader. And I want to handle things financially. And that's just how I want it to go.

Yeah. Honestly, like, I think I would like the same. But like at the same time, if I fall in love with someone and they're amazing and they make more money me. I'm not going to, I'm not going to call it a quits. No, it's not a deal breaker. It's not a deal breaker, but on a soul level, I would enjoy to be the breadwinner. Okay. That's a, I think that's a valid answer. Is it okay to go on your phone on a first date? Absolutely not. If your phone is on the table, we're not going on a second date. Okay, how recently will you text a girl after a good first date? I'll text her the night. I'll text her the night of the night of. When are you were going

on dates during the day? I do like a day date. Like, let's go to the beach. Let's go on a walk. Maybe let's grab some coffee. Like something where we can like both be active, feel good and it's not like, I don't like dinner dates. No, I don't either. It's like we got to spend this much time together. I got to eat in front of you. You got to eat in front of me. I'm not going to line to you. Like if a guy made me walk on a first eight, I'd be like, oh, got my legs hurt. Well, then we're not going on a first date any time suit. We could bike maybe or like...

Okay, that's a good compromise. We could go on a bike sometimes. And I could be in the back of... And you like get on a little basket in the back and you knit. What is the thing where they trail like the thing on the back of a bike? And the toddlers sit in it, but it could be knitting. Oh, I know what you mean. Like dads ride it with her kid to get like donuts in the morning on a Sunday. Yeah, and like Man tuck it. Yeah, we like zip you in it. Yeah. It zips. It's like yellow and blue.

Yeah, we don't talk the whole time. love this for us and you just scroll your phone that'd be perfect i could scroll my phone have a bloody mary in the other hand i love that and you can be like it's and i'll be no that can be i think that's where we would find a good yeah yeah okay i like that we're getting somewhere here what is something non-physical that will immediately turn you on a good listener like if i'm going through something i'm spilling some whatever's on my chest and you're listening and then you like reply with something that makes me feel seen and heard. Amazing.

That's what I need. I think it's something non-physical that I get attracted to. Yeah, let's, I think we could, let's dive into it. Like when a guy, like, parks the car. Oh, I like, that's physical. Is that physical? But I guess it's not, like, physical touch kind of thing. How about, like, like, like, when a guy handles a sitch, like, when a guy, like, is like,

oh, all park. I always say this like I have an ick when men are like really rude to wait stuff like people that work hostesses waitresses waitresses waiters bad tippers like shit like that um so maybe on the flip side of that maybe I just like people that are super polite and patient okay I like that's sweet it's the sweetest thing I heard you say yeah clip it clip it I like sweet holly what do you wear on first date uh my My best fit. I'm going to wear the outfit I'm most excited about at the time.

And if I don't have one to be excited about, I'm going straight to the mall and I'm getting something now. Wait, I'm literally the same way. You know what I mean? If I buy something, if I go shopping, like, I wear that outfit. To death, yeah. Even if it doesn't make sense. Yeah, no, I'm the same way.

And there's always a point in my closet every like three or four months where I look at it and I go, I can't wear a single outfit in here. And then I got to go get new ones. Yeah. And I look at it and I'm like, why do you? did I ever fuck with that outfit? Same. I have so much on going.

Wow. This is going really well. This is crazy. Who would have known? Who would have thought? Holy God, we might even have the same favorite color. Let's not go there. I can only take so much.

Okay, fine. Rank these for the importance in a relationship. Love a rank. Trust, honesty, sex, communication, and comfort. Trust first. Yeah. Communication second. sex third what were the next to comfort honesty communicate i feel like trust and honesty

and then comfort because you don't want to be too comfortable like yeah i think there's something powerful about your partner pushing you to be the best you i think trust is number one for me trust is huge i think sex would be number two for me okay i respect and then communication and then honesty okay comfort but i feel like trust and honesty are like kind of in the same wheelhouse now Yeah, I mean, you can't trust someone who isn't honest. So if you trust them, they're probably honest. That's why I put that a little lower on my list. Okay, we have similar lists.

I think, yeah, similar list. How would your exes describe you? Probably like emotional, sweet, thoughtful, and present. I feel like that's how I would describe you. My exes would describe me as a tyrant. A disaster, an emotionally psychotic person. What else? Like, we'll leave that to them.

Yeah. You know what I mean? I don't have a good relationship with any of my exes. I have a good, I have a good relationship with all them, except one. What did you do? Or what did she do? Sorry, I didn't mean to assume, what did she do? I think some people just feel the world differently.

and I'm like I'm soft and sweet and she's a little bit more rugged and intense and it was just two possible pieces that didn't fit yeah like she loved the drama she was like no physical touch when we're in public

but like then she would go like be touchy with other guys and so it would like make me sad and go crazy and then she would just be like almost like shame me for feeling weird. So is what's your love language? Is the physical touch?

Probably Gifts, honestly, which is shouldn't be a love language. Hi, love language alert. Is GIFs a love language? Yes. I think it's a cop out. This is a gift. Yeah, but it doesn't make it my love language. I don't like I'm actually here on the front line of advocating for bringing gifts off

love languages. Okay. Wait, these are amazing. Like, please keep them flowing. Okay. We have like four more. I'm learning a lot about myself. I'm learning a lot about you too.

Okay, I'm learning a lot about you too. Do you think partners should have each other's locations? I'm going to go millennial on this one and say no. I think there should be a little bit of trust, understanding, and acceptance. And you should just, you don't need to know where they are all the time. That's stressful. Like, let it go. Do you think for safety reasons, though?

What? We're all safe enough. I'm not my mom still needs my location and that's exactly what she should do so leave it to your parents for safety your partner should be letting you be free is your mom have your location no like so but i have like a group of five friends who have it Mikey might even have it Mikey do you have it mikey has it i feel like mike he's a solid guy my buddy Mikey Mikey's locked in over here yeah he's so locked in if we love mike he's we like Mikey we do what is your ideal first day in L.A. The cop out is drinks. Like, oh, let's grab drinks. You know what a good date is? Let's go

hang at the beach. Let's go read a book. What if you were to take me out here? Let's go journal together. Oh, hell. Let's go just hang out somewhere outside. You know what? It's a good first date. A hike. You're so L.A. What? That's like a hike. A hike? A hike. Let's go for climbing that is no I actually would gotta love that you would love that I would love that because then I could find out if they can like get down and dirty I actually used to love rock climbing but like that's what I'm saying I feel like you have an adventure girl that's like inside of you I mean and we just need to like I did karate I'm a brown belt and karate you know that oh shit yeah swear to God

swear my mother's life and I might get my black belt one of these days I kind of stopped when I like I don't know I did it for a long time, though. Really? And then I was like, wait, I feel like this is not how you fit in. And in an all-girls Catholic school. No, not at all-girls Catholic school. You went to an all-girls Catholic school?

Yeah. Checks out. Checks out. Completely. That makes a ton of sense. We can move on now, actually. The most sense ever. I also went to a Catholic school.

I went for eight years. Yeah, I went to single-sex for eight years. And then, you know, the single-sex thing, like, it's tough. It's tough because it's like, Like, I didn't know how to socialize with boys properly. Like, I wasn't acclimated in, like, those kind of environments. So, like, when I was got to college, I always say this, like, I compare it to, like, caging a wild animal and then setting it free into the jungle.

Okay. And, like, that was, like, how my approach was on college. I just, like, didn't know. I just, like, meet out with everyone. Yeah. Well, I think that's a common thing. Like, the more sheltered you are. in high school, the while you go in college?

Yeah, and I wasn't, my parents, like, let us drink, like, here and there, but when it came to, like, guys, like, I was pretty shelter. You just went nuts. I had a boyfriend in high school, but that was the only experience of ever had with the guy ever. And then you just, like, go to college, you have, like, so many options. Yeah, no, I mean, there's nothing wrong with all-girls school, but you got to be honest, those girls were a little weird.

I'm not weird. You're not. You came out on the other side, but you had to do. to fight to get here. Yeah. You know what I mean? You have no hobbies. I'll be honest.

It made me like a little. I have no, yeah, no hobbies. Those sounds like like like. Um, fuck. No hobbies. A weird girl went to an all girls Catholic school. But she came out okay guys. I came out okay.

Better than okay. It probably made me like a little study in college. But like I got through all those spaces of like. Yeah. You feel like, you know, I don't know if people give you enough credit. You're a pretty grounded individual. Yeah, I have depth. People, I do. I kind of cosplay like a dumb blonde on the internet.

I'm kind of like pulling a similar card for me on the internet. For me? No, like I'm like cosplay like a dumb blonde as well. Yeah, it kind of, it's just like a bit that's kind of worked and like I'm kind of over dramatic on the internet. But like if you actually know me, like I'm actually not dumb at all. Not to my own horn. And now I'm getting to know you and I know that.

Yeah, like I feel like I'm pretty smart actually. You are. And also the internet, it's like, it's not real. You don't take it serious. So it's almost best to play with it. Yeah. Like, I enjoy teasing the internet a little bit, like on my height. I don't, I don't, I.

How tall do you think I am? Like 6-1? I'm an honest man's height. 5-11? I can't reveal my cards. But 6-11, or 6-1 is aggressive. Is too tall? You're taller than me.

I'm just saying like, don't gas me up like that. Well, I'm 5-8. You are? 5.7.5.5.5. I'm not short. Okay. You don't believe me? Well, I didn't know you're that tall.

I think you're at least 5-11. We'll leave it there. Okay. Well, I guess we'll leave it there. I got to remain a little bit mystery. I mean, okay. All right, have you ever had a date and early because it was going so horribly? Yes.

What happened? You know when you're sitting there and you're pulling questions out of your ass? No. You're like, yeah, because you're probably the one who's sitting there receiving the questions. Yeah, I probably had a guy on a day early on me because I'm just not into it. Yeah, well, I think I was like, I had asked probably 40 questions, not a single return question. Is she like a bimbo? I don't know what that is.

You don't know what a bimbo is? No. Like kind of like a dumb blonde. Like kind of what we're just talking about. talking about like a bimbo. No, I'm not going to, like without coming at her.

Like no depth. I guess I'm coming at her a little bit. I don't even know about her depth. I think it was more like she didn't have the capability to ask me questions back. And that's a huge, huge red flag. She wasn't a conversation. So eventually I was like,

I'm going to go because like I'm asking questions to a wall. Yeah. I'm going to leave right now. I'm going to go home and watch a movie and ask it questions. because it'll give me more than this. Yeah, I mean, that's always a red flag. Always a red flag. Okay, one more question.

Okay. What are you looking for right now? Tell the people. What am I looking for right now? Like, relationship-wise or like in life? Hit all the bases. You know, like, I think I'm looking for like that feeling where you wake up and you feel like you're giving your all.

And so I'm just trying to like lean into the opportunities I have right now and like not bullshit myself. And like I'm looking for full effort, full input and maximizing the opportunities I have right now. I love that. What I want. Anything you're looking forward to? For sure. A lot of things I'm looking forward to.

You're very ambiguous about that. A lot of things I'm looking forward to. You know what I'm looking forward to is getting off this line, figuring out if I'm talent or production. Let us know in the comments. What are you guys feeling? I think you're talent. You think I'm talent?

I mean, you did so well in the show. Thank you. This show and on Winter Games. Thank you. And I think we can wrap it at that. We can wrap on that, guys. Cheers. Thank you for having me.

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