Factually! with Adam Conover - Yep. Data Centers Suck A**. with Brian Frange and Memo Torres

Episode Date: July 31, 2026

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This is a headgum podcast. Welcome to Factually. I'm Adam Conover. Thank you so much for joining me. It's Friday. We're doing a crisp 45, otherwise known as Factually Fridays, otherwise known as we're breaking down the news with two smart and funny people. As usual, I am neither one of those things. With me on the couch, we've got Brian Franji, comedy writer extraordinaire. Extraordinary, yeah, I just got that added to my bio. Yeah, we put extraordinary on there.

That's what happens when you hit 15 years. They give you the extraordinaire title. And we got Memo Torres from L.A. Taco, welcome back, Memo. Hey, thanks for me, back. Good to see you. Let's jump into it. Memo, you guys have been covering at LA Taco.

ICE has now been abducting people at airports across the country. I was just, I got my paper New York Times. Ice Airport arrests surge as new deportation front opens. What have we been seeing specifically in L.A.? Well, we've been getting a lot of tips. We have, I think the California Community Self-Defense Coalition has gone about 20, tips that they reported to us last time. I know Cheerla, who's an immigration organization, they've talked to actual five different people, five different cases they've been able to

confirm of people taking at LAX. I know about a couple incidents at Burbank. There was one just this week. There's been a couple incidents in Ontario airports. So ICE has been very active at the airports. Yeah. Yeah. And we're starting to see different strategies before, you know, before the, you know, Trump 1.0, as we're calling it now, they used to just go for like the actual criminals, people that thought were going to like try to flee the country. Yeah. Now they're just going for people that may have a work permit, may have a pending asylum case, but they have an expired or overstayed visa. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, there was a case in, I believe it was Nashville where they took a Southwest flight attendant.

Really? Yeah. A flight attendant? Just after he finished his work shift, they grabbed them and they took him. He had a work permit, but he had an overstayed visa, but a pending asylum case. That's a great deal. Yeah. That's like most of these cases, like this Times article,

is full of, you know, this one woman is an opair and was like flying back from the family who she was working for. You know, and it's all these people with like gray area immigration statuses where like they've overstayed their visa, which is one piece of paper the government gives you. Right. But they have a work permit from a different government agency and they have a pending of asylum case at like another agency. Right.

But ICE is using the overstay at one. one of the age, like just one of those three things as like a pretext to deport them and saying like, oh, having a work permit is no, that doesn't mean you can stay in the country. Well, why do you have a work permit then? Exactly. Yeah, I think the Trump administration has been really good about trying to create a new category of immigrants that are doing it, quote unquote, the right way or the legal way. They're in process. And now he's trying to find ways to, one, like, the courts are so jammed up with cases that they have to backlog.

and scheduled appointments and hearings. Way past expiration days for like DACA recipients for these asylum or any petitioners. So you're getting these situations where people are finding themselves in this limbo stage. And so he's creating a new class of people that he can go after and deport them.

Yeah. Brian, you have any thoughts? Other than it's bad. Honestly, this is the first time I'm hearing that Southwest Airlines has flight attendant. I didn't even know. Every time I go on there, it's like a free-for-all. They had that one.

Now they have one less. Can you imagine? I guess they have one less, man. No, that's bad. That's bad. Getting rid of flight attendants, we need those. I don't know why that benefits us. Yeah.

I mean, like, some of these cases are like the woman who is the opair is like, she is checking in like through, she's gone through security. She's at the gate. She checks in at the counter. Like an alarm goes off. Then she's going down the jetway and two plainclothes officers grab her on the jetway, like open a door onto the tarmac. And her friend was recording it. And she's like screaming. Like what they took my friend?

Like you're on a trip with somebody. And like you're abducted out onto the tarmac. I don't know if they took her to a plane or what. There's a van down on the tarmac. Yeah. I was speaking to a woman recently and I'm trying to dig into her case a little bit. He was in Maryland. She was from Texas and she was taken in Maryland.

She broke down exactly how they do it. She's like, they come in plain clothes. They're not, they don't have any uniforms, no signage. They just kind of come up to you, whisper in the air, like, hey, we're going to take you to the side right here. We need to talk to you. And they take them to the side to pull them out of the airport. So a lot of these, like I mentioned earlier, there have been about 20 tips from LAX. We don't have video.

We don't have evidence. We don't have witnesses of that because they do it very sneakily. And that's one of the new tactics. So luckily, those people that we did hear about that then go viral, because they were screaming, they were hollering, like, where are they taking me? I'm not going anywhere with you guys. Yeah. You know?

But have they moved to it being more of a quiet system after, you know, a couple of years of the brutal Minnesota version? The Greg Bovino area with the Border Patrol, throwing you smoke and tear guests at kids at a Halloween parade in Chicago. Yeah. They moved away from all of that. Yeah. They're trying to be more quiet. They're trying to be sneaky, which is why a lot of people think the raids have stopped, but they haven't. They're going back more to the Tom Holman era, which is the borders are.

which is the one who, you know, got Obama nicknamed the deporter in chief because it was very low-key about how he did that work. But I think one of the crazy things about it is that they're doing it at the airport because I've read that they didn't want to do that in the past. They didn't want to get the TSA involved because the TSA has such a specific job of just keeping travelers on the airplane safe. Like that's enough security like all by itself. You kind of don't want to fuck with domestic travel.

You know, because it's already a really high pressure situation. Well, TSA is under Department of Homeland Security. Right. So ICE has access to their databases. And TSA has to, within 72 hours, at 72 hours, they have to report who is actually going to be on the flights. So they share that data. And that's one. So if you want to get on a flight and you really need to fly somewhere, buy your ticket like last minute.

You might get away. Damn. That's a good tip. I mean, that's a recent development, though, right? that they're getting the data from TSA because, again, like in a prior era, there were all these things where, like, the cops didn't share immigration or didn't share information with immigration or whatever because of practical policing purposes, right? Like, you don't want folks who are undocumented to not call the cops because they're worried

or whatever, right? And it's like what the Trump administration is doing is, like, tearing down all of those barriers, right? Yeah, like in Los Angeles, they were touting how. the crime rates down, now all of us said. And ever since the raid started, that's because people aren't calling the police anymore. They don't know who to trust. So, you know.

You know, the more I hear about all this stuff, the more I realize that Alex Jones was right about everything. Every masked men picking up citizens and vans and driving them to detention centers. He got one little thing wrong, one very, very bad thing. But literally, what? Something about telling parents whose children have died that their children never existed.

Oh, you're right. But every single other thing about billionaires having clandestine meetings in the woods to discuss how to put down the rest of the populace and taking away people in mass van. And mass men taking away people in vans. Monsanto poisoning our food with glyphosate, tracking our phones, all this stuff. The gate frogs. Tracking us with cameras everywhere even in parks. What do you think about the gay frogs? You left out gay frogs.

Gay frogs. They're right about the gay frogs. I mean... Okay. The gay frogs are wearing masks and technically you're in deporting people. He was right about everything. And now Info Wars is owned by the Onion.

Yes. Yeah. And so like... They're doing great work over there. No harm, no foul. It all worked out in the end. But man, it is crazy how right he was. Yeah.

Everything that he predicted, circa 2010, is coming to pass now. Why do you think guys like that don't give a shit, though? Like he was not speaking, even when he was still on Info Wars, right? And they were doing, you know, like in the first in 2025, right, early 2025. Why was he not, why did guys like that not give a shit when it actually comes to pass, you know, when the tyrannical government actually starts abusing and like killing people in the street, you know, killing citizens and non-citizens. Well, I mean, in 2025, he was in pure survival mode.

That's true. Yeah, I mean, back in the day, he. he really cared about like Bohemian Grove. And that was like where he really broke through was when he, he said there are billionaires in the woods and they're planning our downfall. And he went there and protested. And he was like the first guy to do that. And that's actually how he got his name.

But once he got his name and his money, you know, it's all about just all about what, how do I profit? Just like everybody else. Yeah. How to keep going. Yeah. Brian, you and I both comics.

We travel a lot when I, like I'm at the airport a couple times a month. It's such a smooth process for me. You know, it's like I go through, I go, I call, I have, I pre-scheduled my Uber. I get there. I go through security. I have pre-check. I go to the admirals club.

I eat three hard-boiled eggs. I go to the quiet room. I go to the exact same couch every time. I go get on the plane. I, um, sometimes I get a little, I, I, like, vape in the airport. That's how comfortable I feel. I'm like, you know what? No one's going to see me.

I'm in the corner. I can, I can break the rules flagrantly. nothing is going to happen to me. It's such a smooth process. When I hear stories like this, it makes me feel bad. Like incredibly, incredibly privileged when, like, it's such a fraud environment for other people. I know. We have white privilege, it's called.

We can vape in the airport. No one's going to look twice at us. This woman literally works at the airport. Yeah. In the plane. I got to say, I do feel really bad for those rich parents who don't have an au pair anymore. Yeah. Look, if you really want rich white people to care about ice raids, you need to hit them where it hurts.

Yeah. And like, you know, a lot of the times, like, you know, as a white person, I am not getting picked up by ice, generally. No, you're not being profiled. Well, they did detain an Australian. So, I mean, now it might not have been a white Australian, but likely is not. They're the ones who travel. When you, you know when you travel, there's white Australians everywhere. They, they like infest every hostel in Europe.

Go on. What were you saying? Well, I'm saying if you really want the rich whites to care, you have to, you have to take away services. For example. And I'm saying this, I'm not trying to, I'm saying this to be like, this is actually how to make them care. Like, there's a car wash in my neighborhood that had to shut down because ICE took away all of their workers. Yeah. And now I don't have a car wash anymore.

Poor old me. Like you literally don't have, it's literally closed. The car wash had to shut down. Yeah. And it's the, it was the best car wash. You'd go there. They'd wash your car was pretty cheap. I have coupons where I have five car washes prepaid.

Those are now useless coupons. Yeah. And not enough people are talking about that type of suffering is what I'm saying. Go to the next public council meeting being like, what am I going to do with these coupons? Right. I mean, ICE is taking away my car washes. I mean, the New York Times is like the end of this article. They talk about this opair, you know, the family formed a deep bond and the cars created

a custom photo book called the Adventures of Shanti and Gordo, the nicknames, Miss Morales-Rohas, that was her name, and their son called each other as a parting game. It's got like the heartstring tugging story at the end to appeal the New York Times reading audience who go, that could be my opair. Yeah, exactly, exactly. I mean, I don't know, what do you think of Brian's argument? give him in here. Like it is, you do need to get. I think, yeah, we have to figure out how to get the rich white people to care. That's right. That's right. We do. So whatever it takes at this point.

That's why you would see it. I feel like when the raids started in L.A., you saw a lot of outcry from L.A. because in L.A., people really, in every neighborhood, everyone at least has a, has like, some street vendors who they love. Oh, my God. In Culver City, there is a wonderful man who would walk around with an ice cream cart. Yeah. And he'd, you know about this guy? Yeah. I mean, he'd walk around. He'd jingle his bell and, like, the elementary school kids would get out at Lynn Woodhaw Elementary School. And he'd just sell them ice cream. And he was doing that for, like, I don't know, 15, 20 years.

Yeah. And it was perfectly fine. And everybody loved it. And then one day, I'm walking down the street. I didn't see this. Let's just say it was me because to make it more, you know, narrative. That's what a standard comedian should do. You should say, you know what happened to me?

Here's what happened to me. So I was walking down the street and I see his ice cream cart is there. on the sidewalk and he's gone. They literally took him and left his ice cream cart to melt. He did get back out on Bonn eventually, though. He got out? But he's not, he's not doing ice cream anymore. Hell no, he's not going back out on the street.

Unbelievable. I mean, what are they doing? Yeah. What do they think this ice cream man is? Like, he's just a nice ice cream man. It's nice for the community. They took the, you from the West, I'm from the West Side too. So they took the Tamalida on Venice and Subpovada,

where you used to buy tamales from. They took the flower vent, no, another fruit vendor. You know the Culver City steps? Yes, of course. There was a fruit vendor right in front. They took her, too? They took that fruit fender? Yeah.

I get fruit from that fruit vendor. Yeah. This is what I'm talking about. My fruit vendor is gone. My car wash is gone. The ice cream man, who I watched, I never actually bought ice cream from. But it was nice to hear the bell. Yeah, my car wash is gone.

Tell my lady's gone. So are you saying, like, now they've done fucked up because now they got very infringing now. Now I'm mad. Before I didn't care at all. No, I'm just kidding. They took your flight attendant, man. They didn't take my flight attendant. They need to attack Delta and JetBlue if they want to get me.

Well, it does make me ask, like, what is the Trump administration's ultimate goal? Because they want to do mass deport. They want to deport like everybody, right? But there's, what, tens of millions of people under that list of who they'd want to deport? They literally cannot deport all of them. They've got, they've said that they want 2,000 arrests today, which is double what they wanted last year. But last year they wanted 3,000. They couldn't get close to it.

They were averaging about 1,000. Right now they're averaging about 1,500 now. Okay. So they're trying to get, they're like, I don't know. The goal is 2000, but yeah. Starbucks trying to meet the lunch rush. They're like, guys, we need to get the numbers up. But like, still, that is what?

A couple hundred thousand people a year total who they're arresting, not even necessarily deporting. That's a tiny fraction. And now they're doing so quietly, before they're doing so loudly to sort of scare people, stop people from crossing the border. Hopefully people are going to self-deport, I would imagine. But now, you know, they're, they're trying to do so secretly under cover of darkness. So it's sort of like, what is the, to a certain extent, they are trying to, you know, bail out the ocean with like a thimble, right?

Right. So, I mean, you've been following how the, how the, their philosophy of it or whatever, how they've been doing it has changed. Like, what do you think the goal is? Like, on a practical level. Or is it just like, let's just fuck with these people because we're, we're just, we're just fuck with these people. We hate them. And as long as people are suffering, we're happy. Yeah, I don't think the goal is necessarily massive partition.

I mean, he's got like Stephen Miller, who hates a Mexican specifically. But any immigrants behind the charge. But the real goal here is he's building his own paramilitary force, ICE, that he's going to be able to command and have them do anything. Remember when, like, the T.S, there was the budget crisis, the government shut down and TSA wasn't going to be able to work. So he sent ICE to all the airports to help to have them do their jobs. And all they did was just kind of stand around.

Yeah, yeah. That's kind of crazy to think. This last time we had you on was like right as that was happening. Yeah, exactly. So it's like, it's like to think that he can just have this agency that he can just do whatever he, you know, send him to wherever he wants. He's pulled people out of FEMA. FEMA now has orders to go under against domestic terrorists, you know, which are people

that are against anti-Christian values. All under his NSPM 7, you know, anybody that's anti-government, anti-capitalist, basically anybody's speaking up against ICE. Anti-Flock. Anti-Flock. Anti-Data centers. Yeah. You know, so, like, he's basically building these force that he's going to have at his own disposal to go after any...

So, immigrants are just to start to build the infrastructure. Got it. He's starting to go now after people that are against the government. And Marco Ruby just did this whole fucking crazy report on Cuba. Right. Yeah, like, was it the new communist state or something like that is Cuba? Mm-hmm. And he named, like, Karen Bass, Antonio Villarosa, the previous mayor, you know, as domestic, no, far-left terrorist.

Really? Yeah, you didn't see this? Carabas as a far left terrorist. She's a far left terrorist. She might be a terrorist, but far left? How dare he? That was the biggest argument. They're like, I don't know about her being far with her.

She's not far anything. Karen Bass is like the most, at this point in her political career, the most like lukewarm glass of water. She tries to do nothing at all times. That's her whole problem. Well, they decided her radical left pass, you know. Sure. Right.

Like 50 years ago or whatever, you know, when she was doing good work. But that's what they're doing. they're building this mechanism that's going to be used on citizens. And they're already starting to move towards it slowly. So, I mean, that's classic fascism stuff. That's like if you look at like Mussolini or Hitler, it's like, oh, let me build my little, maybe it's a branch of government. Maybe it's a militia.

Maybe it's just a bunch of guys who like to dress up in uniforms, like a proud boys kind of thing. And then I can tell them to go bust heads and maybe even fight other parts of the government at some point. Like that's like literally just, I'm going to create a force so I can exert force on the population. That's what you think's going on That's what's going on That's fucking crazy man Just straight up brown shirts or whatever

Black shirt I don't know with the different You want Shirts is bad when people are wearing colored shirts I think it was brown That's one of them Oh That's yeah

There's a different In a different countries A different color shirts We gotta come up with new fascists I feel like We always all the It's always Hitler and Mussolini I think Pol Pot is he if

One of them We got it We had that manifesto about Palantier We're now techno-fascist Oh, yeah. Right. And we're the new Techno Republic.

Tell me more. Yeah. You didn't hear about this? I don't know what you're saying at all. Palantir is basically the AI company. Oh, Palantir. Yeah. You've heard of Palantir?

Yes, yes. Okay, good. Everybody should have heard of Palantir. There's a new company that's running AI spyware. That's what ICE is using. They're all up in the government now. They're up into the Pentagon now with all these new contracts. And they put out a manifesto and they put it on Twitter.

The whole manifest is on Twitter's pinned to their page about the new Techno Republic, which is basically a description for a new fascist regime that's going to be AI surveillance controlled. Yeah. So, yeah, welcome to the new era. I mean, how can people... Sorry, guys. No, for real. I mean, this is what we're living through.

And, like, the problem is with podcasts like this is it really feels like how do you do justice to what we're living through, you know? Like, this is a comedy news podcast. I want to have folks like you on. We can talk about what's actually happening. laugh about it because it's ridiculous. Talk about it. But sometimes it feels like you're describing like a television show. I'm literally watching right now.

I might have mentioned this on the show before. I'm rewatching a show I watched in the 90s, Babylon 5. You remember Babylon 5? Oh, I love Babylon 5. Oh, hell of you. Okay, great. See, this is why we get along. Yes.

I love the show in 1998. It was a 1998 space show. It was a Star Trek-style show. It was one of the first serialized shows. And I was re-watching it just because I was depressed a couple months ago and it sort of assuaged my depression. But watching it with a friend, we text each other. I didn't remember how much of that show is about the rise of fascism.

It's got a whole like there's a coup, a fascist president takes over, the Earth Alliance, and then he creates a paramilitary group called Nightwatch. People are reporting on each other. And like in the 90s, this was just sort of like a normal TV show, but it was, it's referring to like, you know, Nazi Germany, you know. Jay Michael Strzinski is like, you know, he's Jewish, he's like thinking about, he's got some, that's what matters to him, right? He's like, but he is interested in dramatizing, showing the rise of fascism in a country. And it's bizarre to watch that, like, which is, you know, cautionary tale, what could happen.

It's like the Twilight Zone. It's, you know, it's science fiction. And to be living through, like, that shit is happening now is crazy. And it's really hard to process it in your day-to-day life. I don't know. The 90s was the last decade where I feel like we really understood what fascism could be and what it means because we still had people from World War II who were like cognizant. And after the 90s, once Osama bin Laden came along, we started focusing on terrorism, which is terrorism is the precursor to fascism. Because once you got everyone scared, they're like, how do you protect?

me and then you give up your rights. Yeah. But I also feel like you can blame the World War II veterans for dying. Because they're not here anymore to remind us. Yeah, I'm here when we need them. My fucking grandfather. Right, exactly. My grandfather, too.

Yeah. He died real early. Yeah. He died early? Yeah. He died in his 60s. And it's like we could use him now. I don't know why he had to clock out so early.

My grandfather died. Thankfully, all my grandparents died. This is great the year before COVID. So we did not like all of them died in 2019, three grandparents in one year. And that was sad. And then a year later, I was like, thank God that they died and we got to go to the funerals. And, you know, they did. Yeah.

You get to grieve proper. But yeah, he was a World War II veteran. Not one of the good ones. He installed telephones. That's not very brave. But that's cool, though. He understood fascism and why it was bad. Yes.

And yeah, there's a lot of media. If you watch old media, I mentioned Twilight Zone, there's a whole lot of stuff where it's it. Here's why fascism is bad. And when the government tells you to hate your neighbor, say no because it leads to the Holocaust. That's right. And we had this memory of it. And like, you look at Stephen Miller is such a figure from like 1940s Europe. Yeah.

And it's and we have lost our cultural memory. And I don't know. It makes me feel like what's going on with ICE right now is like 15 years from now when our mainstream culture is like, wow, that was bad, wasn't it? We got to remember not to do that again. Like, people like you memoir are going to be like, what the fuck? I was saying that at the time. You know what I mean?

I was saying this shit last year. Nobody listens, man. A lot of people listen to you. So let's move on some other things. But first, I just want to know, because you're really up on this. When people are traveling, you know, how should they be protecting themselves from ice? Like, just what are the basic things you tell folks who are like, vulnerable? That's terrible to this shit.

About buyer ticket last second. Yeah. Yeah, at this point, if you don't have like your status finalized unstable, like if you're in a gray zone, you know, if you're a DACA recipient, a work permit's not going to be enough. But if any of your situations is expired or is up for renewal, if it's lapsed, just because you have a court hearing, just because you have a pending asylum case, a pending petition, you're in the process. That does not protect you from anything. You should not be traveling on an airplane at all, domestic or internationally. So, I mean, just stay away from the airports right now. Probably also not a train.

Trains have a lot of, like, like, someone's customs is, like, worse on trains. We haven't seen them on trains as much. Really? Okay. Yeah. We've seen them at bus stops. We've seen them board buses a few times when they're crossing state lines. So if you're going to be crossing state lines, maybe that's when you want to be careful.

Because you get into another state like Arizona, they're a lot, you know, they're a little bit more red, a little bit more strict. And is there anything that, you know, folks who are U.S. citizens and, and, like, me sort of travel with impunity. You know, I'm a little stoned in the airport, right? I'm like just like gliding along. Eating your eggs. I'm just stoned eating three eggs. Vaping in the corner.

You've been a caught over in the airport? That is literally what I do is I eat three hardbole. Two bites per egg. Because I don't want to talk to the guy who ran next to you on the plane the whole time. Was my egg breath farting on the plane? That's why you go to the quiet room. That's why privilege right there, man. It is.

It absolutely is. How can I be using my white privilege or my citizen privilege to protect? Is there anything that one can do? Yeah, definitely. I think, look, when somebody of color tries to approach ICE and try to document it, get information from the person that's being abducted by them, they're a lot more hostile to those people. But if someone's white, they're a little bit more careful.

They're a little bit more respectful. Right. They might push them away. But, yeah, definitely, I just advise everybody to stay alert, stay vigilant, especially at the airport right now because they're being really sneaky. So use your, pull out your phone, document, ask questions, ask where the person's name is. And, yeah, try to see if they give you a phone number to a family member they can contact. Because sometimes these people disappear and family members have no idea where they're at.

Right. That's a good tip. If you see someone being abducted by ICE, you should ask the person being abducted, what's your name? Give me your phone number so you can contact their family. Exactly. I didn't think of that. And so many of these stories are just because someone filmed it. That's the only reason we know.

A lot of folks are imagine how many people are being pulled off of the jetway and just nobody even notices because they're just thinking. I mean, I got about 25 tips that I can't verify just because of that. Really? Folks are calling you up and saying, hey, I saw this. They're calling the immigration orgs. I have two people I'm talking to directly and I'm getting sources from them. But yeah, it's difficult. You know, it's hard to prove.

And then I contact DHS and I ask for verification. Sometimes they're just like they don't respond. They're like, we know more details. Well, that's why I'm contacting you. guys. Was this you? What's the name of this person? What was the situation? They're just like, well, we can't give you information if you don't have the information. Why would I contact you for information if I had the information? That's right. In those videos, I see a lot of the time the person filming focuses on the ice agent and they say, what's your badge number? What's your name?

They could say whatever they want. They could say my name is, you know, Philip Ajarapu. Right. And my badge number is 9-1-1. And it's like, okay, But if you talk to the actual person, you can actually help them. Yeah. Yeah. That's actually a really good point because so often we're like filled with rage towards the Ice Age. You should be ashamed.

Shame. Yeah. Nazi Foxx and all that stuff, which is cool. I mean, they deserve all the shame. But at the same time, try to make it more productive a few seconds that you have. I mean, those guys hate themselves and that's why they're doing in the first place. Shaming stuff. Shaming people doesn't work by the way.

Shaming just creates more evil. That's why. that's why the Nazis rose to power was because they were shamed after World War I. And that's why after World War II, the American government stepped in and tried to build up Germany so that we wouldn't have another shameful populace

ready to strike back at democracy. That's right. Yeah, and the people who are ICE agents are like... That's how Hitler campaigned. Mine Kampf. Here's what you got to do. You see an ICE agent abducting someone at the airport. You go up to the person and you say,

what's your name? What's a family member? And then you go to the Ice Age and you say, hey, man, great job. Nobody does go, gune, kidnapings like you do. You should yell at an Ice Agent, you should go, somebody loves you. There's someone in the world who loves you.

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Like if you look at some of the Senate campaigns, they're outraising, like James Tala Rico's, raising a ton of money in Texas, et cetera. But the party itself, the DNC, is $2 million in. debt run by Ken Martin, who won over Ben Wickler, who I think a lot of progressives liked and seemed like a real organizer type. He lost. This guy, Ken Martin won, is apparently driving the party into the ground. The RNC has $130 million right now.

Trump controls a $400 million super PAC. They haven't even started spending that money yet. And the Supreme Court just made a new decision that the parties can now coordinate with the candidates more. so they will be able to spend all that money, whereas the DNC is literally in debt right now at the moment when you would think all of, what happened to Jeffrey Katzenberg,

what happened to the liberal billionaires who wanted to, you know, save democracy? It's pathetic, frankly, and there's this, like, scathing New York Timespeas. This is the kind of New York Times piece that happens if the knives are out for you. Like, the knives are out for Ken Martin. People are talking about like he's isolated. He's afraid he's going to lose his job.

There's an anecdote. He like threw a phone at someone he was working with, which is. That's funny. Again, people are like leaking horror. It's funny. People are leaking horrible shit about him because they're trying to get them out. And like hopefully he'll step down. But it's like fucking disarray at the at the Democrats.

The Dems and disarray. Dems and disarray. That's the classic. It is. I hate the Democrats. I think the Democrats are terrible. I think the DNC chair has always been horrible. Remember Debbie Wasserman Schultz?

Oh, yeah. Ruined the society. Single-handedly ruined society. Yes. I think all of America's problems can be laid at the feet of Debbie Wasserman Schultz. She's responsible for everything. I mean, look, the people who run the parties are always chumps to some degree. Like, I remember, you know, the RNC chairs are usually, there was Reince Priebus.

Oh, God. There was the guy before, I forget the name of the guy before, but I can picture him. He was like, you know, go on Fox News and just say dumb stuff. And I remember during the 2024 election, it was like, oh, the RNC can't raise money. The Dems have so much more money. You know, Kamala Harris is outraising Donald Trump. Oh, his campaign is falling apart. And then he wins because that's the mood of the country.

And, you know, the political operatives are always just kind of idiots and, you know, are right around like jigs with their heads cut off. But it's still not what you want. want to see, you know. No, the Democrats are doing the right thing, which is they are taking money out of politics, which is what we need to be doing. They're proving the point. They're like, you know what?

No, we don't need all that billionaire money. That's right. We want to owe money. We want to give them money. That's how back. I mean, it's really absurd that Trump's sitting on $400 million and he's like, I'm not even going to use it. That's how in the cat bird seat he feels.

And the crazy amount of money too. Yeah. amount of money, but I really do like the focusing on local elections and giving money to James Tala Rico's campaign and things like that. That feels like it makes more sense than giving money to the DNC. Well, I don't know. That's a problem too because, like, you know, I'm here in L.A.

You guys are getting texts from James Tala Rico, right? Saying, hey, give me money. That's right. Yeah. Like spam. And like the Democratic donor class, like the upper middle class, like the MS now watchers, right? They always donate money to,

you know, what's the previous fuck face from Texas? Beto O'Rourke. Yeah, Beto O'Rourke, right? Raising tons of money from Californians, right, and from New Yorkers. And people go, oh, what if we could beat Ted Cruz? And they lose every time.

And, you know. But Tala RICO is different. Maybe. Tala RICO. Maybe this could be the year. I'm not talking shit on Tala RICO, but the Dems tend to focus on, a couple of big races,

like sort of symbolic races that, but they're not from there. They don't know if the money could be spent. Ideally, you want the Democratic Party to get the money and then distribute it strategically rather than, you know, rely on the star power of a couple of out-of-state candidates who raise all this money.

Like, AOC raises so much money. I like AOC. You know, I think she distributes some of it elsewhere. but like she's in a safe congressional seat. You know, like why is why is she the biggest fundraiser? You know, like the party itself should have a raise money and then give it to everybody that she supports. She does that to a certain extent. But like it's the star-based star power based money raising where it feels like the Republican Party actually has a machine at this point.

I think this is just indicative of like the way people have been losing faith in the establishment. Yeah. You know, the established dams, the corporate dams. I think ever since they decided to go with like Hillary versus Bernie, that was like a huge blow to them. Yep. And then trying to like, you know, force Kamala when people were like, wait, we didn't decide on Kamala. So I think they've made a lot of drastic bad moves where they think they know better than their constituents or their supporters. So I, but seeing people still supporting Dems, they're supporting like you'll see or they're supporting local Dems here.

Like individual, that's why they're being able to raise money. So you're seeing people put the money in the pockets of the actual politicians. Yeah. Which are far more left-leaning, which are true leftists versus like, you know, there's traditional corporate Democrats who are ventrists at best. This is the crazy part when you see the establishment Dems go on TV and complain about, you know, the people who won in New York a month ago. Right.

Or, you know, whatever. Even what happened in Maine with platinum and et cetera, there's a lot of, you know, there's just a lot of, oh, you know, we, we know, we know, we know, we know, we know, we know, better. Why don't they listen to us? I was like, you guys are $2 million in debt. Like, you know, every decision Chuck Schumer makes is also a bad one. He also fucked up in Maine, right? And so, like, they want to be the adults in the room, and this is what they're doing, you know, it's, it's embarrassing. And the, you know, the reason the DSA is growing is because they're the only people organizing, like actually knocking doors and getting the vote out.

Yeah, I mean, Memo, watching, it's been a little while since. we had you on and like a lot has happened politically since then. Do you have any, any like take on what is actually resonating with people politically, you know, or what the moment, you know, especially when, you know, you really talk to the folks who are really being affected by Trump policies, right? Not that people are just sitting in the suburbs going, oh, it's awful, you know. Oh, and I hate that person on TV.

Like, what do we actually need politically right now, you know? I think people need people like that they feel they can connect with. actually speak with them, actually meet with them. Yeah. There's a handful of politicians in California that actually do that. And I think they get a lot of support from their communities. You see them come out there. You see them out there at events, at protests, at organizing events.

You don't see that much from, like, folks that are kind of more established them, you know? You know, I've never seen Karen Bass out at a protest. You know, I've never seen Karen Bass out at a big community event. You'll meet with people behind the scenes and meet with, like, you know, victims of ICE individually. But she doesn't really publicize that. Right. So there's that disconnect. People don't think she's doing some of this work behind the scenes that she might be doing.

She's doing what ICE is doing. Yeah. It's all behind the scenes. It's all behind the scenes. You know, exactly. So people don't see that. And so I think that's the huge disconnect. And then they go on and they hear from like the big name them, you know, they're very condescending.

You should be doing this. And you should vote blue no matter who, you know, that kind of bullshit. So I just think for people on the ground when they see people that, are locally like Sadejara Wai or Mark Gonzalez or Sasha Rene-Perez or, you know, the DSA, like, Eunice, I mean, at the local council, like Eunice is Hernandez. They'll actually get out on the streets, actually meet with folks. They're out there present. So, you know, I think that makes a huge difference. What you describe, that's the problem with the Democratic Party at large is they're the finger wagging party.

Yeah. And then the Republican Party is the middle finger party. Yeah. They just fuck everything. They get everybody behind them, we're like, fuck them and fuck them. It's better to be a middle finger party than a finger wagon party. That's a good way to put it. But what kind of finger do we want?

We want a finger of support. Yeah, I mean, a finger of a helping finger. I think thumbs up is too lame. Thumbs up is like Beto O'Rourke and that didn't work. What fingers do we have left? Peace, that's not this age. No, that's the 70s grown. Marriage finger.

Yep. Pinky. I guess, you know what it would work? Maybe like the shock. or stock. Like, if we became that part, I thought this one. There's got to be something we can do

with our hands that would help fix this world. I mean, we want to see politicians, like, show up for people, right? And I think Karen Bass is a great example of that. You know, I know a lot of listeners don't live in L.A., but maybe you've heard about her. And she's just this sort of classic been in D.C. too long,

doesn't really want to take a stand a little bit cautious. She's always behind. everything, right? When there was the warehouse fire in Boyle Heights, it's like, oh, she's, oh, people are mad. Oh, I should say something. Oh, I'm a little bit late. I'm a little bit behind. You know, I remember. She's like very connected to a lot of the powerful agencies. And she tries to like play like the Palisades, white people and the folks in like South Central LA. She's trying to balance all of that stuff. But people kind of are in a moment where

they need somebody to take a hard line at some point. Yeah. And they want to see people stand with them. I mean, my big, my big memory of Karen Bass is when we were on strike, when the writers and actors were on strike in 2023, we begged her, just come down on the picket line. Just show face. So many politicians were, right? Just show up, take a photo, give a little speech. You can say whatever you want. You can even say, I urge both sides to come together. You can say some bullshit, right? But just show up and be there and be like, hold a sign for a second, march and show support. It's not going to piss the other side off. You're just showing support for people who are fighting for themselves, right? And she would not do it. She didn't do it when we were on strike for five months.

She wouldn't do it. And yeah, you're going to be fearful of showing up to support the citizens of your city that you represent who are fighting for their rights. And then you can go show up at the studio heads house, you know, and say, I like you guys too. Do that. You want to do that. Didn't even do that. Okay, we were talking about Palantir a second ago. So let's talk about AI as the other topic. The three topics that do great for us is civil rights hating the Democratic Party, unfortunately, and hating AI. So we're going to

do AI. A couple AI stories I want to run through really fast. Minnesota made a law against nudification AI, people using AI to make nude photos of people, which is like a form of sexual abuse and harassment,

right? Take a photo of your teacher, your friend, or someone, your co-worker, and use AI to make a nude photo of them and distribute it or a student at your school. Minnesota passed a law against this. Elon Musk's company sued Minnesota to prevent the law so that they could keep doing it. And they were by the way the only AI app that still just allows this. Elon Musk can make AI videos of himself buffering looking at it. I want to know what I look at just openly.

I thought this is something you had to have your own server to do. No, that, for most AI apps, yes. Grock still lets you do it and they refuse. You could just go on to Twitter? I believe so. And say, make my teacher nude. It's certainly the easiest one to do it. Somebody L.A. Taco took a screenshot of me doing some reporting and then they're like,

make me a memo naked. I'm like, what the fuck? Oh my God. Some there just like waist up buff like with a chain just like reporting naked. Okay. And you like that. It's not a bad look. I can see why Ealing Moss goes to keep it.

I mean, yes. There's good uses and bad uses, but, you know, Minnesota's trying to prevent the bad uses. XAI is literally suing to let people continue to nudify. There's also a New York school that was planning to deploy a human-like AI robot teacher and paused it after there was backlash from the community, partially because the company that was deploying the AI robot teacher is co-owned by a sex bot company. Right, I remember this. is co-owned by Real Doll.

Or their parent company has a stake in Real Doll, blah, blah, blah. Do you see, have you seen a picture of the robot, the teacher robot? Yeah. It is, oh my God, it is plump-lipped, rosy-cheeked. It looks like a sex doll. Yeah. And this is, by the way, at a school district that is, you know, in a, it's like in an area where a lot of, you know, indigenous folks live, right? It's sort of like a reservation associated school.

It's not it's folks who you, what they really need is real teachers, right? They need real money in the school district and the school is going, oh, what if we have a stationary robot named Sally from a company called real bodies? Let me get this right. Yeah. They took a sex robot woman and put her as a teacher at a school. They barely changed the sex robot face at all. Like they did a bare minimum. We'll throw a phone.

We don't class level. Was it like junior high like the worst? You'd think this, you know, maybe this sex robot company is thinking about expanding into education. And you'd think that they would be like, maybe we should not make the lips, not ever have lip injections on our. Oh, my God. It really looks like a place that you would want to shove your. Yeah. Yeah.

They were like, you know, they were like the middle school boys like the like the robot teacher too much. We can't have this. We have to cancel it. I mean, just the idea that they would even propose this is, like, so offensive to the community. And we got people fighting back against data centers all over the country. Does the teacher really need this many holes in it? What's that for? Brian, what's your take on people fighting back against stuff like this?

I mean, well, I mean. I mean, I'm too like, Jesus Christ. Yeah. All right, but fighting back on data centers. No, whatever. I hate data centers. They're my number one issue at the moment. I think that what I'm focused on now is two things.

The fact that local council members are like signing NDAs with these companies in order to. Right. They can't. That just seems like anti-American. This happened in Indiana, town of Indiana. It happened in Indiana and Michigan. Like there was one video. I forgot what town where there was a citizen at a council meeting pointing to the council members asking them individually if they signed an NDA with this day.

data center company and you'd go, did you sign an NDA and then go, no. Did you sign an NDA? And then they go to the third person. Did you sign an NDA? And they go, this isn't the timer place to talk about. Who or who did not sign NDAs? Did he pouchy them? I plead the fifth.

I plead the fifth. I've got a teacher robot to go home to tonight. We can't waste all this time. And it's like, how is that something that politicians are even allowed to do? We sign an NDA with a private company. That's crazy. Well, the companies are so powerful and they have so much money, you know, and they come in. Like they have companies like that are big enough that they can have a legal strategy, you know.

And like, and like look at each township and say, how does the government work? And what are the levers and how do we get them to agree? It's fucked up. But like, yeah, it's like become pervasive on social media, these videos of people yelling at their city councils. That's like the new Kung Fu baby. Yeah. Yeah, I saw the video of the guy he clapped.

He goes like this. And they're like, get him out. Wow. And then he's, what is going on? And he's a math feature. And his wife is at the podium when he's being arrested. And she starts crying.

She's like, no, don't hurt him. That's my partner. It's my spouse. And the people on the dais are like, yeah, well, we told him. We told him not to clap. Because there was a lot of disruption and we have to keep order blah, blah, blah. You know, who knows what happened previously at the meeting.

But like everyone's quiet. The guy claps twice and they they like hustle him out. That's insane. Yeah, there was one guy who like went over his time. Like when you go to a, I don't know if you ever spoken at a council meeting, they put a clock up there and you have like three minutes to talk. And generally if you go over your time, the clock just turns bright red and everyone starts looking at you.

And then you stop. And then there was one guy who like went one or two seconds over. arrested him. Yeah. I just don't know. What kind of surprised me, and maybe this is naive, is that I can't believe how easy it was to buy off council members. Yeah.

Like that kind of like shook my view of reality. Teacher sex robots. Yeah. They're all in. I mean, the way that they just sit there quietly while everyone in their entire town is yelling at them, like literally every single person. And they are voting them out. But it's like that doesn't even matter to them because they already got paid off.

Yeah. I really I mean most of these small town city council members they only get paid like 400, 500 bucks for their service. Yeah. Yeah. They have other jobs though. And I will say like a lot of,

this happens in California, like a lot of open meetings that have to have open mics. For years, it'll just be literally only crazy people or like racists or awful people will show up. That happens in LA City Council. Like there's like people say horrible things. And so then the people on the dais, the council members, they tune it out, right?

And so you can understand they've got calluses on their souls. They've been yelled at too much. Right. But there comes a time when you have to like say, wait, something else. Yeah, that was pretty poetic. That was excellent. That was excellent. Thank you very much.

That's why I have you on. But there comes a point where you have to look at what's happening in your community and go like this, something is different here. These are the actual people. Right. We shouldn't be arresting the math teacher for a, No, literally every single citizen is in this room or in an overflow room because we didn't have enough room in the actual chambers to listen to all these people. Yeah.

And they are getting voted out. I mean, but if you just, I don't know, I thought it would require blackmail on top of just paying people off. But it just feels like you throw someone 10 grand and they'll do whatever you want. Yeah. Whatever you want. Especially small city councils. Yeah. I guess my concern is it's really nice to see this outflowing of or this uprising against data centers like nationwide bipartisan.

Bipartisan. But the problem is I think we've seen, we've had other protest movements, you know, 2020, other years of where people rise up and demand change. But then if there's no organization, if there's no where it's channeled, the rage comes. It sort of dissipates. and then, you know, we're left with sort of nothing, right? And that's what I worry. I think this is different. I think this is different because a lot of these organizations were just as rage.

And I march should occupy Wall Street where, you know, you're down there and fully square yelling at the buildings that I hope rich people are in. And then you're there for a couple weeks. Then all of a sudden it's like, it's like 99% you know, income inequality. And then all of a sudden you look around and it's like, bring back herbal fend, fend. And it's like all these different signs. It's like, wait, I don't believe in all these things. Yeah, the Fallon Gong people show up. That's right.

Yeah. But data centers is a one, it's a single issue. It's just this one thing. And it affects people in their backyards. And when it affects a small town in your backyard, you can't even ignore it. Yeah. I love, I love saying how like in Virginia, which in farmland, which are typically people that are more right-leaning are fighting the data centers because they don't, they're thinking about. at their environment and their neighborhoods, right?

And they're just doing it on their own and they're fighting it. Here, like in Monterey Park here in the L.A. area, they also just fought data centers as well. But they did it by, like, doing research and talking to UCLA professors and getting, you know, their own, like, statistics and data points on the environmental issues it was going to cause. And they did it in totally two different styles and ways, but it's, they didn't communicate with each other, but they had the same enemy. I think that's amazing to see that people are starting to see the same common enemy, which is data centers.

And Monterey Park was one of the first. cities in the country to ban data centers in the city, right? Yes. And that's, it's not a huge part of, you know, it's L.A. County, right? It's L.A. County. Yeah. Yeah, but it's a little city.

Yeah, but they were trying to build a data center there and they stopped it. And they tried to do it all sneakily. The only reason they found out is that an organization there, I think of SGV something, forget the name of the organization, but they went and got a public record records request and we're looking at the files at like the agendas and notes and what the council was doing and realized, wait, they're going to approve a data center? And what they were doing was that they were only inviting like about 60 people that lived around the area the data center was going to be at. So then they started organizing people.

But like all the data centers are trying to do all of this super sneakily. Yeah. Well, now, especially now. Yeah. And they're trying to promise jobs. And they're like, we're going to give you a park, which is like the corner of the property that they didn't end up using. I think a big part of it is the public is really realizing that they benefit not at all from AI, you know? Yeah.

You can ask Chad GPT a question. It's like using Google. Oh, Google will. answer you now, whatever. That's what I did before. I dipped a question into Google and it gave me an answer. Now the answer is different. Sometimes it's useful.

Not even not correct. I asked for the best tacos. It gave me some bullshit. I don't think. I know what those tacos are. I don't think anybody knows. No one could give you a better answer than you yourself know, Memo. You know, you're the only person in LA I would ask for a taco recommendation.

Like, you know, but you literally work for LA Taco. You created a lot. Like Marisa Salisco has the best carnia sada. I was like, you don't know what you're talking. No, it's all BS, backwards looking. And when you, the AI ads, the one Anthropic is running right now. It's on TV constantly is like, these people going like, could AI make me a better mother? Like, what will the future of AI be?

And I'm like, isn't that your fucking job to tell me what it's for? Like the ad is like, keep asking questions. Like, no, how about you tell me an answer about why you're building these things? And so then people, you know, are like, this is supposed to be the biggest technology. At least the iPhone I can call my friend. You know, I can like send a photo to my, I see a photo on my niece. It's like useful to me. And so if I'm being asked to give something up in exchange for, okay, sure, this made my life better.

I don't think people have that connection with AI. They're like, the robot teacher sucks. I don't want my son to fuck the robot teacher. I would like a real teacher. Yes. The data center is not going to employ anybody. the AI was used to nudify my sister. That's right.

And so they're not seeing it. They're not even telling us, oh, it's going to cure every disease. No, just focus on that. Yeah. It won't do it because this is all scam and the rug pull is coming. Yeah. These billionaires got their money and they're going to pull the rug. The economy is going to collapse and we're going to be left with this product that can't even tell you where a good taco is.

Nobody wants this. Nobody. I really do believe we're living. in one of the shittiest times in American, and I guess global history. And then the arguments on, I don't know if they're bots or if there's a certain subset of people on the internet who I would like to call tech cucks. And all they do is when you say something bad about tech, they say the same arguments defending Elon and all these people.

For AI, it's the same things. One of them is, well, we can't let China win. Right. And it's like, let them. We have like 4,500 more data centers than them currently right now. We have more data centers than them. I don't, but let China win the AI. AI sucks.

Yeah. Yeah. Let them have a bunch of, let them have no water and no land and no jobs and everyone's upset and unhealthy and let them have erroneous information. I mean, why can't we let China have? This could be potentially, if this works out and China wins, this could be the greatest sciop in American history where we all pretended like AI

was this amazing thing. China's like, I guess we have to do this. And then they use up all, they're already having droughts over there. They use up all their water so they can make Elon Musk have abs. And we just roll right in there and Taiwan is free forever.

Listen on that note, that's fucking funny, man. Brian Frangy, where can people find you? You, by the way, in addition to being hilarious comic, as people just heard, you are the, Memo is the world's number one taco expert in LA. You're the world's number one Apple expert. Just tell us a little bit about that.

I have a website called Apple Rankings.com. I'm the world's number one Apple influencer. I am better than the other two guys to do it. And this is a legitimate thing. It is for real. And I will. I'm actually going to have a book that's going to come out next fall. Adam's going to write a little blurb for the back of the books.

You haven't told me this yet, but I will do it. I did. I have got this in writing, too, because it's in text. Okay, okay. Of course I'll read you'll blurb. You agreed. Of course I'll write you will blur. You said you're going to say something about whenever I want an apple, I just text Brian about what apples I want. That's true.

Yeah. That's true. Exactly. So he has tried every variety of apple and the best variety of apple is still the sweet. Still the sweet tango. It remains number one. Which you can only get for a couple months a year. Yeah, September, end of August to September.

This apple is incredible. It's like, it's like a honey crisp on crack. It's like way. As the Honeycrisp declines. Yeah. It's on the decline. I have some new up-and-comers if you want to hear them quickly. Sure, really quick.

What are the best apples? Year-round, Sugarby is one of my top favorites now. Sugarby is good. Look out this fall for the Luda Crisp apple. If you like a sweet. Luda crisp. There's a whole story behind it, but we don't have time. Luda crisp apple, I think, might be...

Spelled like the rapper? Crisp. Yes, exactly. Wow. Okay. Nothing to do with the rapper, though. And the Midwest Apple Improvement Association, who created a name this apple,

declines to admit any sort of association with Ludacris the rapper, even though it's spelled L-U-D-A-Crisp. Wow. It's insane. The Mansion Sue. Yes. I think you should look out

for the Ludacrisp apple this fall. It's good despite the naming malfeces. It might be my, it might be one of my, maybe my favorite apple. Wow. Yeah. Sweet Tango is still number one.

It has, but Ludacrisis is on the come up. Sweet Tango is incredible. It's like, and a lucy glow. When you, you bite into it, it like shatters and then it like releases juice into your mouth and it's like this perfect

combination of sweet. And ever since you told me about it, I look for it every September of October. Yeah, keep looking. It'll be back out again and then a couple of weeks. Yeah. Okay. Well, and people and where. Apple rankings.com is the website.

Apple rankings. You know, and I have, you know, Instagram and Apple rankings, Instagram and Apple rankings, whatever. I'm also on Instagram as a person, but who gives it? I mean, who cares? I would rather us get rid of all of this. Memo Torres, you'll of course find you at laitaco.com.

You're incredibly important reporting. And taco reviews. Yeah. The best taco reviews. You find my personal page is El Salvadoran de Los Angeles. It's in Spanish. But yeah, I do work for and write for LATaco.com.

You check it out. Yeah. Thank you so much for being here, guys. This has been a crisp 45. This is actually the last one of these that we're going to be doing for a little while. It's been a nice little experiment for three months. But we're going back to our weekly expert interviews.

But I hope to continue to find new ways to talk to smart and funny people on the internet regularly. Thank you guys so much for being here. It's been a blast. That was a hate gum podcast. What's up, everybody? I'm Kyle Mooney. And what's up, everybody? I'm back back. And man, ooh, we got something to tell you.

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