Fairway Rollin' - FedEx Cup Playoff Picks and Phil Mickelson the Content Machine | Fairway Rollin’

Episode Date: August 14, 2019

Joe House is joined by DFS golf specialist Pat Mayo to chat about the importance (or lack thereof) of golf playoffs, and offers his picks for the BMW Championship this weekend (3:50). Then, The Ring...er’s Megan Schuster drops by to discuss Phil Mickelson’s newest episode of his video series Phireside With Phil and more in gold social news (47:20), before Chris Vernon calls in to offer his picks of the week (77:00). Host: Joe House Guests: Pat Mayo, Megan Schuster, Chris Vernon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:49 And we have just a couple events left. Joining me this week from Draft Kings and the Pat Mayo experienced digital daily show and some liaison work he's doing with the PGA tour on Draft King's Daily Fantasy. Pat Mayo is here to share his thoughts about how the playoffs are going and what he's anticipating coming up. Of course, Shusty is on. We have a little golf social to get into. She hasn't been on in a few weeks. Phil Mickelson has been up to some things and we enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:03:24 And the year of the Brooks just continues and continues. And of course, my beloved home, Iverno is on. We're going to assault some wounds, hopefully that we both experience with some wagers that we may or may not have made. But the first tea is open. Let's go ahead and let out a little shaft, my friends. All right, my par saving pals on the line. He is a friend of the program. the host of the award-winning digital daily talk show and podcast,
Starting point is 00:04:01 the Pat Mayo experience. He's a promoter and contributor to Draft Kings and OG of Fantasy National, the analytics, the golf analytics site that helps you pick winners. He is my second favorite Canadian. I kid him and tell him that he's behind Drake, but really he's behind Alex Trebek. And he has some kind of newfangled relationship with the PGA tour that he's going to tell us all about.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Pat Mayo, what's happening, buddy? Not too much. Glad to be back on. It's funny. The last time I was on, I picked Patrick Reed to win Quail Hollow. He was good through three rounds. Then he imploded. And I said at some point, Patrick Reed is going to get a win this year, which I don't want to have very Horowitz myself and pat myself on the back.
Starting point is 00:04:49 because I bet him every single week after that until last week. Oh, no. You left him off the card? Left him off the card. Your boy Feinberg had him, though, right? Feinberg had like five winners in six weeks. It's outrageous. He's had a baby.
Starting point is 00:05:05 He's riding that baby swag. Oh, yeah. That's right. I mean, you had a little bit of that, right? Didn't you have a little baby swag? Yeah. I had some nice baby swag hitting my master's big to cut parley. Then I had birthday swagged the year before where I won like 20K at the heritage on Drafting.
Starting point is 00:05:22 It was fantastic. New Kitchen. There we go. That's how we do it. Can you please explain what the hell's going on between Pat Mayo, the Pat Mayo experience, and the PGA Tour? Well, I'd like to take full credit for this, but it's a partnership between Draft King and PGA Tour. They're now the official daily fantasy and fantasy game provider. for the PGA Tours, that there's a relationship there.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Fortunately for me, I am a contributor and partner with drafting, so it's a very logical choice just to insert me into that position. So now I have videos going up on PGATor.com. I have articles going up on PGATor.com, and hopefully in the future, this does lead to some sort of on-demand service where we can have the red zone for golf, aka trademark, the green zone, which just be a perfect name, where we can actually watch people. we want to watch like man i bet on siwu kim every single week but i see one shot and it's usually
Starting point is 00:06:22 because he hit it into the middle of the pond yeah we had a good conversation about this i don't recall whether it was on this podcast or when i was on your podcast where the the green zone i mean it doesn't the only thing that is the challenge with it is like the physical logistics and you got your own kind of feel and flavor for what it's like to go to a a ballpark that's hosting an event. You were at Liberty National last week. Is that the first time you've been inside the ropes at an actual event? Yeah, it was.
Starting point is 00:06:58 It was the first time I went as a credential media member. It was funny because I was inside the media tent. And there was a whole much people came up to me like, hey, I love playing draft kings, I love betting on golf, I love the show. And then I met like half the other people who are like, Could you please explain to me what a draft king is, please? So there's a gap we have to bridge there. I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:07:20 I was in Memphis for the St. Jude, the WGC event down there. And I also was a credentialed media member. And I walked in there and nobody said a damn thing to me. It's because you do audio. When they hear you speak, they'll do it. When you got your face plastered on everything, you name a show after yourself. The symbol of the show is your face. It's all a branding.
Starting point is 00:07:43 thing. You got to get yourself out there. I guess you're right. I got to work harder at that. Well, I was watching your Twitter at the PME is where our listeners can find it. And that's where I saw you walking the grounds at, of Liberty National. And I said, what the hell's going on here? Pat Mayo is inside the ropes. So what was the video that you shot? So I shot a quick like, you know, for Twitter, everything needs to be less than two minutes and 20 seconds. So I'm out there standing on 18. Brooks hit the ball. over my head while I'm filming. He didn't seem to be too concerned about it,
Starting point is 00:08:17 so I assume it wasn't going to hit me. He killed it. Just absolutely crushed it. It's funny when he saw him on 18 in round four, like he just completely bengled the exact same shot. I was like 50 yards short where he hit it during the practice round. But I was just trying to get a sense of like, because there was a lot of talk.
Starting point is 00:08:34 And this happens a lot. And we're in that same situation with Medina this week, that you get the coverage of it. You see the pictures of it, but you're always looking for that. player on Instagram. I remember Patrick Cantley at the U.S. Open being like, hey, this is what the rough is like eight paces from the green. Like my ball is gone. I'm not getting it out of here. So I wanted to get a feel for the people out there like, here's the fairway. It's three paces
Starting point is 00:08:57 until you get into the fescue. But the ruff itself really wasn't that big of a deal. It turned out those like little weird tributaries were a bigger deal than anything. Yeah, the guys didn't seem all that flummoxed by the rough. But I mean, especially our boy Jordan Spieth, It was wonderful to have him return to competitive golf and see him on a weekend doing a little something. But he did not like that T shot on number one. I mean, he figured out both left and right how to put himself in harm's way. One of the easier par fours on the course.
Starting point is 00:09:34 The funny thing with Jordan is he gained 8.3 strokes putting last week. And it turns out that like, that's just an outrageous amount of strokes to be gaining putting and still only coming in six. Like any time that you gain eight strokes putting, you really should win a tournament. But it was the first time he gained over three strokes with his iron since the Northern Trust a calendar year ago.
Starting point is 00:09:55 So maybe something quick for him. He still can't drive the ball for nothing. But if he's not putting like this, I don't have the highest hopes for him. The clicking is the thing, right? Because that sort of implies that there's something going on in the six inches between his ears. You know, the toughest six inches in golf.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Oh, God. The middle-aged white guy golf humor. So terrible. But you could be on the CBS broadcast. I'm not going to lie to you. That's pure CBS. Well, I do want to talk about and let's go down this rabbit hole just for 10 seconds. How good is Phil Mickelson going to be if he decides to do it?
Starting point is 00:10:38 And I really, really, really hope somebody says, here's $20 million. Just do it for one year, Phil. how good is he going to be as a as a commentator on television with the stories he's going to tell? I mean, if he replaces Nick Faldo and, you know, just gets in the booth and goes nuts, and he gives us the golf version of Tony Romo. Did you see his latest fireside with Phil? Yeah, fireside with Phil and Tiger. It was pretty.
Starting point is 00:11:06 This is what I mean. Whoever's producing Phil is doing a hell of a job. That's the guy that needs to be hired, at least for some sort of. someone's digital team, maybe he still's paying them enough. I don't know. But with his reach via social media now, now that he's good at it, I mean, $20 million bucks? I mean, I don't know if golf has NFL pockets.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Like, I don't know how much these guys make. Like, Nancy's obviously, like, factored in football, basketball, golf. I assume that's all like one contract. But like, how much can Falto really make? I mean, nowhere near that. I made up that number. It's a ridiculous number. But it has to be a ridiculous number to get filled a deal.
Starting point is 00:11:42 do it, right? And the big thing is, like, I know how much, like, I can monetize my Twitter and Instagram and Facebook following the score. Like, I actually have, like, a real number on that. I can't imagine what Phil is. Like, he's like five, six million bucks a year just off social media he could probably do. So I don't know if he needs to do it. No, I mean, he doesn't need to do it. This is why he has, you have to offer him an absurd number. But let's go back to Jordan Spieth. Because it does not seem based on the statistical achievement that he demonstrated over the weekend, that his problem is his physical play. And the performances he's had in Thursday and Friday rounds versus the Saturday Sunday rounds, I think confirm it. There's just something mental about Saturday and Sunday.
Starting point is 00:12:38 He had another substandard Saturday performance at the Northern Trust, but just came around and dropped on us a Sunday 67 with the astronomical putting. He has our good friend Justin Ray posted in his weekly must read 10 notes that went up yesterday, that he is putting better than any time in his entire PGA tour career. He's averaging, you know, the number is 0.86 strokes gained on the greens. That's his best total of his career. But he has been so horrendous off the tee all year long. And I don't know what to attribute that to.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Well, he's going through a bit of a swing change. So that could be one thing. But it doesn't matter if he keeps putting like this. Like, as we know, putting is. is highly unpredictable. Now, Speed is one of the more consistent players on tour, but I look back at the beginning of 2008 when there was no
Starting point is 00:13:40 player better from tournament of champions through the Masters key to green, driving iron around the green to Justin Justin, Justin Rage, and Speeth, I'm getting them all mixed up. And Speed was, but he couldn't putt. He was last on tour and putting for like a four-month
Starting point is 00:13:56 stretch. Like, that stuff comes and goes. And just his entire game seems to come and go, and he can't get it all on the same page at the right time. But I would be worried that this putting, even if it regresses to where he's above average, but not by far the best putter on tour, like, he's going to be in shambles.
Starting point is 00:14:13 And we've even seen that. Like, he gained over four strokes putting at the wind. He became 78. You know, he lost, like, 0.8 of a stroke at the travelers. He missed the cut. Like, the rest of his game can't bail himself out. Like, when you see guys like Rory, or when you see guys like Dustin or Brooks and these guys,
Starting point is 00:14:30 and they lose three strokes putting for a week, their ball striking is so good that they're still at least competitive. They don't win those weeks, but they're still T8. Jordan Spee, if he has one of those weeks where the putter is like average, he's missing the cut. He's coming in the last place. So until he can figure out how to drive the ball with some sort of consistency, like the guy is not going to win.
Starting point is 00:14:50 That's right. And that's the thing to me that was if you're a Jordan Truther, and I kind of am, I just think golf is more fun when he's competitive. When he's sort of, you know, summoning the, because it's all intangibles with him. There's nothing about him that suggests like, oh, dominant golfer. He doesn't come down, come in and burn, burn the house down the way that Rory does. He just has a kind of swagger when he's on his hot streaks. And I want that back.
Starting point is 00:15:21 I want to see that back. I'd like to see Spieth and Kepka head to head when Spieth is sort of at the top of his game when he's summoning, you know, what really feels like golf karma more than anything else. But I do want to get your thoughts on just kind of the playoffs in general. Are you contractually obligated to say that you like the playoffs? Does the PGA tour require that of you? No, they actually do not. So I can kind of go in deep on this one.
Starting point is 00:15:51 I don't hate them. But golf is centered around, it's like the ATP championship at the end of the tennis season like that's worth a lot of money. it's with all the best people, but it's not a grand plan. Like golf has majors. I even look at the players. Like the player's championship is awesome. It's now better that it's the first one out of the gate.
Starting point is 00:16:11 So it gives it a bit more elevated prestige because it's been a while since we've seen something. But like the pantheon of golf events, like, yeah, you get 15 million for winning. That's going to get everyone to show up. And even the BMW championship this week is probably the best field that we're going to see all season. This field or last week, to be perfectly honest, honest with you. Like at the Masters, you get all these same guys plus like a dozen to 20,
Starting point is 00:16:35 you know, Octan Nigerian. So that deal gets weighted down. At WGCs, you get Japanese tour players and Korean tour players and Asian tour players, Australian Asia tour players that they get in based on some weird qualification system and they're just not good as the Joel Bainman's of the world, to be perfectly honest. But these 7-0-69 because Kevin Withdraw, Kevin Da has actually withdrawn at this point. I still don't know what's going on with Tiger. I assume. play, but we'll see about that. Raffin Cabrella Bayo is actually on the ground. He has had his baby last week with Drew, so he's going to give it a go
Starting point is 00:17:06 this week to see if he can make the tour of finals. This event is awesome. So if you like golf, a high-end competitive golf, and the courses they go to in the playoffs are major venues. Like, Medina is an awesome course. Liberty National is a tremendous course. Eastlake is awesome. It's just
Starting point is 00:17:22 everyone's kind of burnt out after the majors. Yeah. So in that respect, and I think about it the same way as you, it's great to have these competitive fields. It's great to have something on the line that motivates the guys and that something gets more and more attractive each event. And I like them rotating between venues that are, you know, not venues that we would not normally kind of see. They're like, you know, once every couple of year kind of venues. I'm psyched to see Medina under these
Starting point is 00:17:54 circumstances with these guys where we're going from 70 to 30. That's like legit pressure. That's a fun kind of pressure. But you made the point. It's the right point. It ain't none of these are majors. It's just fun to have a little bit of drama for us golf geeks in August. It's a, it's a fun thing to have in August. And in that respect, I think the PGA tour got it exactly right. Let's just run this thing. Let's make sure that it's all the way done before Labor Day, before football really gets going. And, you know, let's just let the fans of our games. And, you know, let's just let's just let the fans of our game enjoy seeing our best players because they're incented by the money, go compete and, you know, we're going to see some cool venues along the way. And that's the
Starting point is 00:18:41 way I think about it. Do you agree with that? Yeah, I do. I think they made the proper decision that, I mean, the FedEx Cup used to run to the end of September and like, I'm not going to lie to it as someone who does both football and golf content and shows every day. Hey, it's difficult for me. You know, to say the season's not going to be in September to the restart. the green briar prior like September 14th, but the playoffs, getting that done before the beginning of college football is so big to at least keep an attractive audience. Like the only reason people watch the Tour Championship last year is because Tiger won. And even the ratings versus all other Tiger competitive appearances weren't that high because it went head to head with football.
Starting point is 00:19:18 So this is a better way to do it. Cutting it from four events to three events, I think is very sensible. And I don't know how the Tour Championship is going to work because I've ever seen it practice in terms of, is it viable to say, hey, you lead the FedEx Cup standing, you start at minus 10. The guy in second, you start at minus 8, the guy at third, you start at minus 7, the guy at 30th, you're even, you're 10 strokes back. I don't know if that's going to work or not, but I like the logic behind it that whoever wins at Eastlake wins the FedEx Cup because there was nothing really stupider last year than Tiger winning the event, Justin Rose finishing an hour earlier tapping in for power like no one cared,
Starting point is 00:19:56 did he won $10 million? Yeah, I didn't like that. And when Justin Rose missed the cut at the Masters to essentially, from my perspective, that validated how walking in the back door, how unearned that $10 million was, I'm out on Justin Rose now. I know he won at Tori early in the season, and to his credit, with his brand new Holma golf clubs. but missing the cut at the Masters,
Starting point is 00:20:27 I don't think I'm ever going to forgive him for that. Yeah, I loaded up on him and draftings as well, so that didn't work. He's actually having like a nice little stretcher. He was 13th of a memorial, third of the U.S. Open. He was 20th at the open, 11th of St. Jude, 10th last week. He also, almost like Steve, is putting the lights out.
Starting point is 00:20:45 However, the rest of his game has been really good that he's, I'm not saying that I'm picking him at Medina, but he is the prototypical type of player that you would want at Medina. He is long enough. He's great with long irons and his short game is top notch. Yeah. I mean, having said all those things about those bad things about Justin Rose, he is, you know, you absolutely have to have him, I think, in lineups and in any kind of one and done stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:12 If there's any chance you have him left, he's just, this is exactly the kind of setup. He's a 2012 rider cupper, you know, he has that good mojo to pull from. So let's go ahead and then just talk about what you're anticipating this week at Medina. What kind of attributes based on your diligent fantasy national scrubbing, your analytic scrubbing. What are you anticipating in terms of skill sets that are going to make a difference here? Yeah, I really have to make a gut choice on this one because it's over 7,600 yards. So it's long, obviously. Two of the par of fives are not reachable in two of those.
Starting point is 00:21:52 So I started kind of racking my brain. I went back and I looked at 99 in the 2006 PGA championship. Just a look at the leaderboard. I don't really care that anyone played that week. Obviously, Tiger won both of those. But just to see who are the other players inside the top 10, who performed well that week? And what did they do particularly well?
Starting point is 00:22:11 And shout out, Canadian, number one Canadian Uber driver, Mike Weir. He played well both those years. The final round 80 with Tiger, co-tied for the league in 99, was great by any means. He remanded with the top 10 in 2006, but he's not a long hitter. He was never a long hitter, even in his time. Ian Poulter is someone who finished inside the top 10 in 2006, and he actually led the Ryder Cup in point between both things,
Starting point is 00:22:36 between the Euros and Americans in 2012. He is not a long hitter. He's never been a long hitter. So I do think that there is a premium this week on hitting fairways, being good with long irons, and being able to get it up and down from around the green. I take Corey Conner's every single week. He's really an analytic darling, but if he misses a green, it's a triple bogey.
Starting point is 00:22:56 He missed a five-foot putt on the 72nd pole to cost me my top 20 last week. My biggest bed of the week, and I fact think, it just, the guy can't putt, the guy can't chip. The one week he putted, he won by like eight shots. It was incredible. It's heartbreaking. I am interested in a couple other of these guys that were 2000. 12 rider cupers. I am with you on our boy, Poulter. I mean, he's, he's definitely going to get some of my bit. What do you think about Webb Simpson this week?
Starting point is 00:23:34 See, I'm just never a web guy, to be perfectly honest with you. And it feels like, I understand. It just, it feels like he hit his peak. He went on that run. He had the second, the 16th, the 30th, the second second. And he came off of it a little bit. He's not a great driver of the ball generally. If you look at the tournaments where he really popped in terms of driving, like he was, he gained at the RBC Canadian Open. He gained at the Wyndham Championship. He lost strokes last week.
Starting point is 00:24:01 You lost strokes at the U.S. Open. One of the things that people get confused about with stats is everything is weighted against the field that you're in. So you could figure out a way to try to give extra weighting to, like last week's field was a very good field. The WGC field is a very good field. The U.S. Open a very good field. The Windham Championship.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Not so much. Web should be beating those guys an approach. And off the T, he's a class player versus, you know, guys who are coming over from, like, Malaysia to play to see if they can fluke into a tour card. So I don't love him this week, although he is one of the better Long Iron players on tour. It's usually just his bent split. Like, the guy is lights out on Bermuda putting. He's lights out on polo putting. He's neutral on bent grass. And if he doesn't have one of these, like, exhilarating performances on the greens, like, he was on another type of rose and speetian.
Starting point is 00:24:50 run in Canada, nine strokes game putting. The U.S. open eight strokes game putting. St. Jude, seven strokes. Windham five strokes. Last week, two. And when he come, 18th. If he's not leaving the field and the most hard to predict that there is on a weekly basis, then it's tough. So Webb is the type of player that I would want to target, but I think that Polter is
Starting point is 00:25:10 sort of like the discount Webb this week. Like Webb's coming off at 22 to 1. Pulter's 55 to 1. Just give me the 55 to 1. Yeah, I like that. I haven't had a chance to look at this other guy that I'm going to mention to you, another 2012 rider-couper that has shown some signs of life over the last, say, five weeks, and that's Brandt Snedeker. But he's definitely got to be higher than 30 to 1, right? Let me look it up real quick.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I don't believe he is. I think Snediger is firmly at that 40 range. I can be know he's 60 to 1. So there you go. You have any feeling for him? I think he's a I think he's a better draft Kings play
Starting point is 00:25:53 than a bet he's probably a better top 10 bet than an outright winning bet but like his 4.9 everyone can find this on Fantasynational
Starting point is 00:26:00 dot go just click on the player and boom but if you track he's like round by round which is one of my favorite features
Starting point is 00:26:06 that you can go to see what they did in a particular round and Snediger's a really interesting case only because he had that one really really really good round last week
Starting point is 00:26:15 we've seen this from him before where he has this deal he shot the 59 at Windham last year. It goes on to wind by just treading water, the rest of the rounds, being good, but not great. And basically last week, he was great for
Starting point is 00:26:26 one round. And then the rest of the rounds, he was okay, one round. He was actually quite terrible. But I don't know if he can piece it together in this sort of Big Boy course. Just because he's not a great, he too is not a great driver at the ball. He sprays it everywhere. But we talked about, he almost
Starting point is 00:26:42 suffers from a case of the web. And I do think that driving and driving accuracy by itself is going to be very important this week. Like the type of player besides Poulter, who again is not another great driver of the ball. It's like that he has seen this course in two different conditions and he's priced appropriately. It was
Starting point is 00:26:58 a third an approach last week at the Northern Trust and a great part three player. But like Ryan Moore, Kevin Kisner, that type of player. Even Abraham Answer, riding for, Molunari's down to like 55 to 1. Those shorter players that gain a bunch of strokes off the tee and they can hit
Starting point is 00:27:14 their driver and they can be accurate and keep it out of that crap. Like there's These are tree-lined fairways, and they're all good around the green as well, and good with a long iron. It's that type of player that I think is going to do well. Now, I could be completely off-faced with this, because everything else that I've read, be like, bombers, bombers, bombers, bombers. But I think people have been free a bit of a surprise this week. All right, that's enough on Brand Snetiker.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Who do you like to win? So I actually really like Justin Thomas. I just hate the number so much. He's down to 14 to 1 right now. And let's look at the past four tournaments. He's gaining over five and a half strokes on approach. The ball striking is completely a return. The short game has never been a problem.
Starting point is 00:27:55 I can't putt. It's weird. Over the past 24 rounds, he's now 60th in this field coming into the week in terms of strokes game putting. So he just needs to be, he's almost like if he just gains two strokes putting, the rest of his game is so good that he should be fine and would probably end up winning. But my first bet, as of right now, and I'll talk about some doubles a little bit later on, because those are a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:28:17 the corn fairy out there this week. You can do some stuff. But I like Can't Lay at 22. I just, I'm not making the same mistake I made with Reed. Like, I've been on Can't Lay for like three weeks now. He led the field in Bertie's last week. The approach numbers weren't great, but that was really just one round of poor performance.
Starting point is 00:28:35 He's the best in the field from 175 to 200 yards over the past 50. He's 11th from beyond 200. So long irons are good. He's a great driver of the ball. He's improved his around the green game. And he's a better putter on bent than any. anything else. So my card starts with him, then it drops to Polter at 55, Hedecki at 55, because the dude has been close all year long. And it just seems like the past two winners of the
Starting point is 00:28:59 BMW, you got like Mark Leishman and Keegan Bradley. Now, I'd say Hideki falls more in the Leishman camp, but he's better than both those players. But that's where he's being priced right now as he's like a third tier, fourth tier type player. And we all loved him a month ago. It just hasn't really come through for him. So when I see those big numbers next to you, to Hideki, I tend to pounds. And of course, I always bet Siwu Kim, so I bet Siwu Kim at 200 to 1. I mean, the Siwu love is just unparalleled. It's my favorite thing.
Starting point is 00:29:29 I'm with you on Thomas. I've been, I had him, I was looking for something out of him at St. Jude, because we're like, now we have lots of confidence that the injury situation is definitely in the rear rear view mirror. He's hitting the ball consistent. well in the categories that you just described. But the putting is so, I bet Justin Thomas in a fourth round matchup
Starting point is 00:29:56 against Bubba at the WG St. Jude. And he just went out there and slopped his way around. Now, Bubba got hot and then tried to let Thomas come back at the very end. Bubba double-bogied and could have easily triple-bogied, 18 in the fourth round of the WGC St. Jude. But Thomas was just uninspired, and I don't know what to attribute that to. Maybe he didn't have good enough barbecue down there.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Well, I think it's funny. Like, when we think about the injury, the injury to the wrist, he came back at Memorial and realistically, like, he played one bad round there. A second round was a disaster. His first round was actually quite good. But since then, he's played, let's see, here, 23 rounds. He's lost strokes ball striking to the field twice in that time. So it would never really hurting me.
Starting point is 00:30:49 It has been the putting. I don't know if that's a mental thing or if that's really where the injury came in. They just lost a stroke a little bit. But he's progressively been getting better putting. He's no longer the worst putter in the field every week. He's like the 50th worst putter in the field every week, which puts him just below average. So I'm just saying like every time that he gets a chance to really gain half a stroke around,
Starting point is 00:31:12 JT, and you're going to win this week. And he's great golf on Bencras. I like him at these longer courses. is the right shot shape. So instead of betting him at 14 to 1, what I've done is taken, I took Brooks, because Brooks are like the very, very top guys. He's 8 to 1. I'm never going to bet 8 to 1 guy because that's not my game.
Starting point is 00:31:29 I took Brooks and J.T. and paired them together. And I went over to the Corn Ferry playoffs, and who do I see at the very top? You got Victor Hovland over there, who's by far the best player in this field. So he's 10 to 1. So I parlayed them together.
Starting point is 00:31:43 This worked out for a couple people a few weeks ago. They hit the Morikawa. a Kefka double. So that pays like 96 to 1, something like that. So I've taken the two guys. I actually made an outright bet on Adam Spencer on the Corrin Ferry Touries 90 to 1. I mean, I was betting the guy at 110 to 1 to win a PGA event three weeks ago. I might as well bet it 90 to 1 to with this event. So I've just paired those two guys together, parlayed them with the other two, and get some big odds on this stuff. Yeah, no doubt. Where is the Corn Ferry event this week.
Starting point is 00:32:15 That's something I would probably like to know. You're betting it. I guess it doesn't matter. You're just betting the class. You have the class of player that you have in mind. You have your eyes, your heart set on a guy. It's irrelevant where they're playing and what the statistics
Starting point is 00:32:34 suggests about how guys. Because Hovland is a no-brainer. I mean, you just go ahead and bet him to win. That makes sense. Yeah, and that's the whole thing. I'm looking at the odds right here. He's 10 to 1 to win this, the nationwide children's hospital championship.
Starting point is 00:32:49 He needs to do well in order to get his tour card for next year, so he's not back on the Coffery Tour. But, like, then the odds, like, if you can cap this field, know a ton about this course, I feel like there's a lot of value if you had, like, Kevin Chapples in this event for the first time in, like, six months. He's 55 to 1.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Now, Harris English is 33 to 1. Someone named Christopher Ventura, Acese's pal, he's 28 to 1. Justin Harding. He's 30. But then you look down, like I said, Spencer is 90. Who else is down? Like Ben Martin, haven't heard of him in ages. He's 140 to 1. There's a really deep out.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Grayson Murray's back. He's 55 to 1. Bo Hoffler is 60. Like, it's a really strange field full of, you know, that regular tour guys that just missed out on the FedEx Cup playoffs. But they're all being devalued except for Hovland and Harding versus like these, you know, I mean, I love Lantel Griffin. He's my guy, but, you know, should he be the eighth favorite in this field with PGA tour regulars?
Starting point is 00:33:46 I don't think so. Oh, I love this. So the Corn Fairy Parley, you're calling it a double. We need to come up with a name for this. This is a, I love this strategy. I'm joining you on it. I'll have to figure it out. I haven't, I didn't even crack the book on the field of this.
Starting point is 00:34:04 I mean, it is a neat thing. Again, also proper for August. it's true relegation in the way that folks who pay attention to soccer get on pins and needles with Premier League and those things, you know, what teams are going to stay in the upper echelon or in what teams are going to drop down. That's exactly what's happening in golf right now. These guys are literally playing for, you know, the professional livelihood. So lots of pressure.
Starting point is 00:34:33 And it does, you know, some of those names you mentioned, those are guys that have won on the PGA tour. These are, these are, you know, PGA Tour winners out there, classy golfers. I mean, it's worth, you know, 20 bucks, right? These parley's at the odds you can get? Yeah, hell, I mean, if you do the Spencer parlay with Brooks and J.D. or even can't, you throw five bucks on that. All of a sudden, you're looking at like 350 to one. So it's pretty fun.
Starting point is 00:34:59 The tournament's actually at Ohio State University. So. Sure. Yeah. Why not? You find the guy. But the guy who won. one last week, Bo Hogg on the
Starting point is 00:35:10 Corn Ferry Tour. I think he's an OSU guy. So it's like a home course for him. I think he's like 45 to 1 or something like that. But you can also get real tricky and throw that's a double. You can throw a triple in there by going over to the Czech master. We've got some guys in the field. This week's Epperol, Westwood, and Weisberger,
Starting point is 00:35:28 get the European Luke list, Eric Vandalryl. So then Victor DuBé Sault is back. So there's guys. You can play a triple if you want to do it. Eddie Pep is what is he, 11 to 1? So you can do pepperil, Hovlin and Brooke.
Starting point is 00:35:41 That parley is going to pay like a thousand to one or something. That's really good. And I like that. We'll call that the fast play parley because you have both Brooks and Eddie out there throwing shade all over my boy Deschambe. And what,
Starting point is 00:35:56 you know, Hovlin can just be along for the ride. He's new to all of this. He's just happy to be there. He's got that big smile on his face. Do you care about the slow play? I mean, it is the thing that dominated the headlines because poor golf media has to have something to write about. What is your sentiment when it comes to this slow play controversy, smallest C possible?
Starting point is 00:36:20 At the same time, like this story doesn't become a real story if it's not Bryson, who's the culprit, because people hate Bryson's guts. They really do. They just want a reason to not like him. I'm going to play that parlay, by the way. It pays $1,1286 to 1. So a $5 bet gets you $6,500. Go, boom. How about this?
Starting point is 00:36:48 Pat, I've spent $100 on worse things. What if I just put $100 on it? You could retire. You wouldn't need to do a fairway rolling. You do it for free. No comment on that. But that is a terrific. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:37:05 Do you care about? the slow play. Like, it sucks being a viewer, but there's a lot of, like, things that we don't know that go into it. Like, I was complaining for ages when Speed took, you know, 89 minutes to hit a shot at the British Open and killed by Matt Kutcher bet, probably because I had a Matt Kutcher bet. But if Kutcher was eating a sandwich in the middle of the fairway, and now he was in the final group, he was with J.B. Holmes a whole bunch of times, and you can argue it one of two ways. Maybe the tour enjoys this because the longer players take, the more live rights and broadcast that they have, meaning the more they can actually
Starting point is 00:37:39 sell as sponsorships for commercial. So it could work out really well that way. I think for actually watching golf, it's horrible. But if the, and you and I talked about this when you were on my show, that if the direction in the production truck of golf was just a little bit different
Starting point is 00:37:54 and they had more of an ADD sort of lifestyle, we didn't need to see Bryson line up his shot for 10 minutes before he hits it. No one would really notice. You could show eight other shots in that time, cut back to Bryson, and all of a sudden, shooting and no one noticed. Well, that's, that's the point. And this goes right to the concept we talked about at the opener. This would be a green zone risk, right? If you were watching a group because
Starting point is 00:38:20 you have an interest in a particular player, and that player happens to be paired with a slow poke, that you're stuck, because that's, that's, you know, you're going to watch J.B. Holmes out there, you know, grind his T ball on the first T, you know, not sure what, what club to hit. And, you know, whatever indecision he might have. And you're going to watch Bryson go through, you know, five stepaways before he's ready to putt. And, you know, Jim Furrick with his stepaway putt strategy and Jason Day, although who knows with Jason Day and Stevie breaking up, maybe that will help Jason Day pick it up a little bit. But that only really applies if you're watching a single group all the way through. otherwise you hit the nail on the head.
Starting point is 00:39:05 It's up to the production of the TV broadcast, which at its guts, to me, this is an entertainment product. So I'm watching it to be entertained. I want the competition. I have a rooting interest on certain players. I'd like to see those players occasionally if they're in contention. And beyond that, it really just is a matter of the players to sort out amongst themselves. because if somebody's getting an unfair advantage by how long he's taking, if he's genuinely affecting the play of his competitors,
Starting point is 00:39:40 then that needs to be addressed. They need to get to the bottom of that. If it's tilting the playing field in any kind of way, then that's worth it. But otherwise, like, for me, consuming it, watching it on television, I mostly don't care. Yeah, and if we talk to, you could have eight different golfers open on your screen at the same time.
Starting point is 00:40:03 It's like when people used to play, like, poker stars. They used to play eight tables at one time. You can just have action going on whenever you want on your screen. So I don't think it would be that big of a problem. It's when it's on, and it was on PGA Tour Live and you have the one group to look at. Then it became a major problem. But Feinberg put it best, like he's not breaking the rules. Like if you were submitting your taxes and there was a tax loophole, you would take advantage of it, wouldn't you?
Starting point is 00:40:27 Oh, I take advantage of tax loopholes with regularity. You're kidding me? This is one of my specialties. Yeah. And you're not breaking the law. So what's Bryson really doing besides? being bright and aggravating people. That's exactly right.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Well, on that note, speaking of aggravating people, I'm going to let you go, but I need one thing from you. I know NFL season is fast approaching. You and your crew are very deep in all NFL, all of the fantasy guidance. But one thing that caught my eye, you have coming out this week, your forecasting of over unders.
Starting point is 00:41:06 and I'm interested in whether or not you have a position on the NFC East and perhaps the team in Washington because I already have some action on that. You have action. Washington along with Miami. Well, you and I, this is no surprise to anybody, see the world the exact same way. So I have them, I believe, under either six and a half or six. I have to go look. I made the wager as soon as the news came out. about Trent Williams being dissatisfied with the treatment he received, the physical treatment
Starting point is 00:41:47 that he received and his return and the fact that he was threatening a holdout. This was at least six weeks ago. I immediately bet $1,000 on the under. But I just don't remember whether it was six and a half or six. Either way, I feel pretty good about it. Well, that has been adjusted now. It's down to five and a half now. And you can get plus money on the under.
Starting point is 00:42:09 You get plus 120 on under five. and a half wins on Washington. I really want to. One of the better bets, I was talking to Adam Levittan earlier today, and he really likes the Eagles just to win the division is even money, just based on the train wreck that's going on in Dallas right now.
Starting point is 00:42:25 But I was kind of talking like the problem with these future bets is, like, you bet $1,000 and you're going to be happy to win your $1,000 at the end of the year, but you're tying that $1,000 up for 17 weeks. A lot of time. Like, think about how many intermediate bets you could
Starting point is 00:42:41 with that $1,000 instead of tying it up in one thing over the course of 17 weeks. Like, wind totals are super fun to talk about, but you really need to be very selective. Like, I don't think you want to bet like 20 of them just because your money gets tied up. And I know you're going to want to bet week to week. Like the one I've been eyeing for a while is the Bears under. It's that nine and a half. But now I've got to lay minus 140 to bet. I got to find a nine out there.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Maybe they'll give me the money. Yeah, I like that. And the other thing to do, well, I already confirmed. that I'm a violator of the tax laws. Well, I didn't really confess it. I'm a loophole searcher. I also look for ways to not have to front the cash when I make these kinds of wagers, Pat Mayo. So that is a much better work around.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Just bet in Bitcoin. Then you're good to go. There you go. Exactly right. Whatever your bookie will take in the meantime, whatever you can pledge, whatever collateral's out there. Even if it's a kidney, it's okay. I'm fine with that. How about this?
Starting point is 00:43:40 10 to 1. Absolutely not under no circumstances whatsoever. Are you, the only reason you would bet that is if you were anticipating that the Patriots bus is going to drive off the mass turnpike and go down an embankment and all 80 players break their their legs. I think it's just one Brady injury away. Like you have 10 to 1 Brady gets hurt or falls off a cliff. Like I don't think it's going to happen. but now you're asking if you played the season 10 times the bills win that division was.
Starting point is 00:44:14 I think that they do it and they win it more than once. Maybe they win it twice. I think they're going to have one of the best defenses of football. People are sleeping on my main man, Josh Allen. Everyone talks about like, oh, Baker. Baker year one to year two, he's an MVP candidate. Sam Darnold, year two. He's a dark horse MVP candidate.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Josh Allen, oh, he sucks. He'll never get better. That's impossible. Like, what if he does? What if he gets 30% better? Like, he was okay last year. And the bill, he was great. Well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:44:41 It's not going to get 30% better this podcast. I'm glad that you gave us four minutes of NFL. Always appreciate Pat Mayo. At the PME on Twitter. Check out all of his golf content. You only have two more weeks to do so, the B&W championship this week and then the Tour Championship next week. Pat, thanks for coming on.
Starting point is 00:45:03 As always, my main man. Oh, for sure. Don't forget about the swing season. That's where the real money is made when the book stopped paying attention. we're going to start that up right at the end of September, right? Yeah, I think Greenbrier is September 17th, something like that. Yes. We get a course we know.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Perfect. That's right. Let's go win some tickets. I'm in. All right. Thanks, buddy. All right, thanks, dude. All right, my thanks, as always, to the number one draft king's homie, Pat Mayo.
Starting point is 00:45:34 We have golf social with Megan Schuster Shusty coming up next. But first quick word from Zip. hiring used to be hard. Multiple jobs sites, stacks of resume is a confusing review process, but today hiring can be easy. All you have to do is go to one place to get it done. ZipRecruiter.com slash roland zip recruiter sends your job to over 100 of the web's leading job boards. They don't stop there. They have powerful matching technology.
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Starting point is 00:47:00 slash R-O-L-L-L-I-N. ZipRecruiter, the smartest way to hire. All right, it's been a long time since we've got social. here on Fairway Rowland and a lot has happened. Now here for golf social. Megan Schuster. Hey, Schusty. Hey, how's it has been a long time. How are you? I'm spectacular.
Starting point is 00:47:34 We had some mediocre outfits out there at the Open Championship. And none other than Shane Lowry in all black went out and brought home the title. but, you know, he was, it was a bright green light shining on him. All of Ireland, the Emerald Isle was resplendent in their enthusiasm for Shane. So he could wear whatever he wanted. Everybody was going to be just fine with how he looked. Yeah. And I got to say, I'm kind of glad he didn't fall into the trap of being forced to wear green, you know?
Starting point is 00:48:14 Like, the black was pretty uninspired. But I got to say it was at least sort of intimate. which I appreciated. Slimming, as always, which is great. And, you know, he avoided being kind of a cliche by wearing green. So I was okay with it. I was all right. I like the Sunday badass move.
Starting point is 00:48:32 I'm with you on it. I endorse his play was intimidating enough. His iron play, his wedge play, especially was just so sharp over the weekend. It was a joy to watch. And that was one and it was like another. We had a real feel good story. to end the major season. But it feels like that was a long time ago, Shusti.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Some things have been happening on the inner webs, including the ongoing, never-ending. Phil Mickelson, content machine. We have so much to talk about with Phil that it's honestly hard for me to prioritize which videos and tweets I want to ask you about first. But I think I want to start off with your thoughts on his very, very brief video with Bryson that he recorded last week, which I will say was kind of a tough look for Phil, because he posted it right before Bryson basically became enemy number one on golf Twitter for his slow play. But I don't know if you saw it. He was wearing a shirt with a couple of Latin phrases on it. And they were basically just trying to, I don't know, show off their collective brain power. But if my Googling abilities are up to speed, the shirt translated roughly to.
Starting point is 00:49:48 you do not understand. And Bracson responded something along the lines of like, I understand. So I wanted to get your take on that one first and also his latest installment of Fireside with Phil, which we can talk about in just a second. Yeah. Well, I want to go even further back because I don't think that we had an opportunity to exchange notes on this beforehand. But he took a picture of himself hiking.
Starting point is 00:50:14 And for for half a second, like you can't tell from. the angle or, you know, from the circumstances surrounding him because it was a selfie. And this is one of Phil's favorite tricks. His head is so big. It tends to fill up most of the frame. So you didn't really get a great feel for whether or not he was putting himself in any danger. But it looked like he could have been near the edge of whatever trail he was on.
Starting point is 00:50:43 But he made a point of giving a shout out to the Acadia trail. he was hiking. Did I get that right? Yes. Yes, in the Acadia National Forest. It's the precipice trail it looks like. My main takeaway from this was it looks like he's hiking in either Keds or boat shoes, which is really, really concerning to me. Twitter was really wondering, it didn't really feel like much of a hike if you're in those shoes, right? I feel like it can't be. I mean, where he's positioned in the first photo, like there's no tread on those shoes. And he's, He is standing on like almost a downward slope.
Starting point is 00:51:21 And, you know, if this was a video, I would be pretty concerned that he was just going to slide off the face of whatever this mountain is that he's on. This is my concern. Exactly. Don't do it, Phil. It seems pretty risky. Like, at least if you're going to do this hike, wear some adequate hiking shoes that aren't just going to, you know, fly out from underneath you when you're taking risky photos like this. That's right. You and I are in lockstep agreement.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Great. Somebody needs to send him some boots. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe he can get a nice hiking boot sponsorship for next year. Yeah, because he needs more free stuff. He can't just buy it with his own money. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Yeah, it was great. But I did see the Bryson one. I did admire the timing and the irony of that timing in view of the subsequent developments with Bryson. Bryson, the interesting thing is we really had villain weekend last weekend. We had Bryson, who's really worked hard to grab the villain mantle from Patrick Reed. And for reasons, you know, unrelated to like the quality of Bryson's play. But more, you know, obviously we could beat it into the, it's been beaten into the ground, this is the slow play thing.
Starting point is 00:52:35 And then Patrick Reed went out and won the tournament. And, you know, Twitter loves, you know, all of the villain memes. The Crying Indian is my favorite one. but a wonderful week for golf villains. Yeah, I will give some props to Bryson for actually, you know, as we've come into the following week, it sort of felt like he actually stole the story from Patrick Reed, which is not an easy feat to do, especially when golf Twitter seems to hate on Patrick Reed as much as it does. So I will give him some kudos for that because that was fairly impressive,
Starting point is 00:53:12 even though the way that he did it was probably not how he would want to. But we had a very, very interesting weekend and into this week for Gulf Twitter. And one of the things I wanted to talk to you about, honestly, the main thing I wanted to talk to you about today was the latest fireside Phil chat, which he posted on Monday. So if you're not familiar, Phil's been doing an installment or a series of videos next to usually just like lit candles, which is. pretty interesting. Ambience. Ambience. Ambiance.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Yes. Ambiance above everything. And in this one, he advertised that he was having a chat with Tiger Woods. In reality, Phil was set up at a table with like a couple candles near him. And I couldn't even tell if they were actually lit. And he seems to be next to what I think is just an iPad with Tiger's face on it. It's a little bit unclear. He goes on in the video to reminisce about the three times he's beaten Tiger.
Starting point is 00:54:12 And he goes into detail on the 2012 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro Am, where Tiger was matched up with Tony Romo and Phil was partnered up with Skip McGee. So in this story, the night before the final round, Jim Nance is organizing a dinner. Phil ends up seated next to Tony Romo at this dinner who's playing with Tiger the next day. Tony, that morning, tells his caddy not to bring up the dinner in front of Tiger because he knows his playing partner will get annoyed. Phil also knows this but decides to antagonize Tiger. So after they tee off on the first tee, they're walking after their balls. And Phil yells out to Tony asking him how much fun he had last night. So it's a fun, lighthearted video with a classic Phil Mickelson story.
Starting point is 00:54:58 But what did you think of Phil basically talking to inanimate objects now? Terrific. Otherworldly brilliant. I couldn't endorse it more. the only thing now that the the the particular brilliance of of his arrangement with this and i don't know who's producing him pat mayo and i covered this a bit whoever the the production team is he had the the the foresight the game plan there was a smiling tiger while he told the story but then he had you know scrolled up and all he had to do was swipe left it seemed to get to this to the scowling tiger and when he wanted to make the point about tiger's reaction to observing that his partner, Tony Roma,
Starting point is 00:55:41 had been out, you know, consorting with the enemy, that it was a moment for a tiger scowl. And then he had that scowl up there for a bet. And he said, I can't have it up. You need to go back to the smile. I mean, it's just really the architecture there is incredible. The only thing that would have equaled it to me is perhaps a doll. And maybe he has a, maybe he's saving.
Starting point is 00:56:07 a player doll for another occasion, although I'm not sure other than Tiger, if there's another golfer that's possibly an eligible candidate for a doll. Yeah. Two questions for you, House. One, do you think he could ever get Tiger to actually appear in real life on one of these videos? And two, how many steps away do you think we are from Phil getting a Mike Francesa-like show where he just sits in front of a Mike? and talks for hours on end. So I 100% think that he can get Tiger to do it. He has to agree to do something for Tiger in exchange, like for the two of them.
Starting point is 00:56:47 But they're both wheeler dealers. They both have enough going on in their lives where it's in their mutual interest to do favors for each other, you know, starting with the match last year. And that's kind of come back, I believe not this year, but next year, because Tiger's going off to Asia this year. So for sure at some point, we will see the real tiger flesh and blood on a fireside chat with Phil. But on the show question,
Starting point is 00:57:20 and this is something that also we talked about a bit, I think, and this was really clicked with me when he was telling you, when he mentioned Romo, who is going to be better in a potential broadcast booth role than Phil Mickelson. Like what would it take for all of the golf, you know, broadcast to basically like to pool their money and make it so worth his while to appear on golf broadcasts.
Starting point is 00:57:50 NBC, CBS, Fox. Right. ESPN has a bit now. Like all of them should just chip in five million bucks, splash the pot, offer him 20 million bucks and ask him to come on, I don't know, 20 broadcasts and do the color bit. I mean, that, after what we saw with Tony Romo and, and his ability to kind of forecast plays and, you know, the, the, the real preternatural ability he has in the booth, I mean,
Starting point is 00:58:24 I think Phil could be his rival. I'm wondering how, and I'm not sure that I have an answer to this question, because I think both would be great. Would you rather see Phil in a color, common. role like Romo for golf, or would you rather see him in sort of the bones-like role where he's on the course and gets a chance to like interview people after their rounds? Because Phil is color commentator, I feel like is excellent. You probably get a lot of really great stories. And he obviously has an immense amount of golf knowledge to provide. But also Phil on the course
Starting point is 00:58:57 interacting with all of these people, I feel like would just make for some iconic golf social tweets. The problem I have with him being on the course is how could he not upstage whoever it is that he's dealing with? I would be concerned about him potentially impacting the playing field, you know, the caliber of play by being out there watching and, you know, do you think that he'd be able to not tisk, tisk somebody who miscalculated or mishit or whatever? And he'd have an immediate analysis. I mean, this is the thing. This is why I think in that color commentator role, he's really like the evolutionary Johnny Miller. And I'm so in. I'll just start, I don't know what we have to do to try and make this a thing. He still wants to play competitive
Starting point is 00:59:46 golf, which he can do for as long as he wants, but I want him in a broadcast booth. That's, that's, I have found my, my preferred place for Phil Mickelson, his, his next career. I don't know what we have to do with the golf gods and with the golf universe to make it happen. But I'm here for Phil in the booth. I am too. And I am also here for a potential golf broadcast reunion between him and Bones working on the same crew. Can you imagine that? How great would that be boned out in the field and Phil in the booth?
Starting point is 01:00:20 What kind of direction do you think Phil would be given bones? I don't know. but all I do know is that I would pay a lot of money to see it. Yeah, I mean, there would be a lot of eyes on that. You're absolutely right, Shusty. We have a couple more tweets that we have to talk about. First, I wanted to discuss the year of Brooks continuing a pace over the weekend and his use of media and social media.
Starting point is 01:00:48 His Sunday morning, if you were on Twitter, started the day with some fireworks. because on Saturday night of the Northern Trust, Brandel Shambly was on Golf Channel discussing the pace of play issues that had arisen throughout the weekend. On the broadcast, he said that he thought slow players weren't the rudest players on Twitter, but that fast players were actually being rude because if they hit the ball up in front of them, they go stand in front of the person who has to hit. And, you know, Braynall basically said that's not proper etiquette.
Starting point is 01:01:21 And to illustrate that point, he referenced a video where it appears that Brooks is standing a little bit ahead of Rory while he is waiting for Rory to hit a shot over the weekend. So, of course, our pal Brooks is not going to leave that comment unaddressed. So Sunday morning, he tweeted out, don't worry, I wasn't in the way at Shamley Brandl. If it was you playing, I would never stand there since it's Rory. I felt pretty confident he wouldn't shank it. It was top-notch. I couldn't have enjoyed it more. Yeah, just iconic.
Starting point is 01:01:54 And then, so that was seemingly before he got to the course that day. A few hours later, he got to the course and Aiman Lynch tweeted out that Brooks's caddy was standing on the putting green, getting ready for the day. Bryson DeShambeau walked up and told him to tell his boss to make any comment about slow play quote to my face. Brooks apparently arrived shortly after that, got the message and walked directly over to Bryson to chat, which I read that tweet with no further context, didn't really get any more context until the end of the day, and spent the rest of my day imagining Brooks basically pummeling into Bryson. So I was glad to read at the end of the day that apparently the chat won fine. Bryson apparently said it was awesome, which is interesting.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Well, what else is he going to say? Yeah, I mean, I don't really know how else you respond to that. Brooks, you know, kept his response toned down. He called Bryson Slow again in his response, but also said, quote, everyone out here is probably a bit more afraid of confrontation than in other sports. There's always been some confrontation on the team. Sometimes it helps and you figure out what the root of the problem is and start working on it. So Brooks, you know, keeps up his crusade against pace of play issues and gets some spotlight, even though I didn't win. Well, the big thing is, and this is what you touched on and you're leading to this, is him sharing himself, his personality, his perspective with us in really an unprecedented way. And each of the occasions we've had to sing his praises in the majors. And Bill Simmons has been on a couple times on Fairway Rowland. And he's been, you know, Brooks has really captured a sports fan like Bill. like his attention.
Starting point is 01:03:43 And I think it's, it's, it's very widespread. Like the sporting public has been, uh, enamored by Brooks because of how consistent he's been in these major performances. But what he's done in the last 12 months is share with us like, like a version of, of him that was previously unknown,
Starting point is 01:04:05 which is a guy with, um, strong thoughts on, on a variety of, of golf related topics. a guy who's not afraid of sharing with us, his like psychological composition and how it sort of, you know, the things that he's learned and his, his approach, his mental approach to the game and how he has the game sort of organized in his life. And it's, it's kind of endlessly fascinating.
Starting point is 01:04:29 So like you just mentioned those two instances from Sunday, two, you know, pretty different kinds of, of interactions. One, I absolutely adore whoever is in his team. Somebody must have. Randall duty on his team now. So it's like any time there's any slander that comes out of Brandl's mouth, Brooks and his people are on it. They've got that Google alert set up now. That's exactly right. He's got that on lock.
Starting point is 01:04:57 And he had the answer right away. And it was perfect. And then the Bryson thing, I think Brooks thinks of himself. And this is part of what we've learned from him over the course of the year. I feel like he thinks of him. himself as an athlete, a professional athlete first and a golfer second. And I think that like mindset is what he's like, oh, Bryson wants to talk to me.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Okay. I'm going to go talk to him. Yeah. And we'll just have it out. Like, you know, competitors can do. And they may not agree, but, you know, Bryson was definitely going to say that that was awesome afterwards. He was no part of that Brooks Keppka smoke.
Starting point is 01:05:41 We know that for sure. No, absolutely. But we got a great, you know, this version of Brooks, he's established himself competitively as deserving of the number one ranking in the world and all the sort of accolades of how he's been conquering the masters, I mean, the majors, pardon me. And now there's the personality that goes along with it. I don't know. I like, I hate to, I want to be careful.
Starting point is 01:06:11 we were, and I know this is going to make you feel bad, we love Jordan's beat for the 18-month run that he had. And he's a very dynamic personality. And, you know, we thought, oh, God, if this could just last, you know, Jordan's an endlessly fascinating character. But the golf gods, you know, took away some of his golf powers. Yeah. And Jordan wasn't up to it. No. And I, I think one point that I wanted to make, too, you and I talked earlier this year when Brooks first went on his pace of play crusade was to try and see like what kind of an effect it would have on the rest of the golf community because Brooks being, you know, the best player on tour right now obviously has a lot of clout and obviously has, you know, the amount of leverage to say the kind of things
Starting point is 01:06:59 that he's saying. And he's been saying them throughout the year. And I think it was really interesting now that we are coming to the end of the season in these, you know, final few big tournaments that over the weekend I saw dozens of other players who were also complaining publicly on Twitter about slow play. And granted, a lot of it was directed at Bryson. And honestly, I got to the point where I started to feel a little bit bad for the guy. Because even though he is, you know, kind of candidate number one these days for slow play, it's really not his fault. But, you know, that's another conversation to have. But I thought it was really interesting to see guys, you know, like even Justin Thomas.
Starting point is 01:07:40 responded to a tweet that gave him credit for staying near the green during Bryson's fiasco, like saying, you know, it was hard to with a clock emoji and Rich Bean was tweeting about it, Paul Lari, Eddie Pepperel, of course, he ripped into Bryson. But I thought it was really interesting to see these guys all using this public platform to talk about these issues. When, you know, in the past, I don't really feel like that was as much of the case. I'm with you. And there definitely is like some kind of an emboldening across. the professional golf community where each of them are feeling slightly better about expressing themselves and letting their own personal views kind of be shared.
Starting point is 01:08:21 And the focal point of slow play, which is this like perennial complaint that like, I don't know, some combination of golf TV and golf media and the players, you know, it's a favorite bugaboo. I chat about this briefly with Pat Mayo. I don't really care. It doesn't really affect my consumption of the product on television. You know, it's on from a set time to a set time. It's on like 3 p.m. to 6 p.m. on Sundays.
Starting point is 01:08:54 And the vast majority of tournaments are basically wrapping up pretty close to 6. They're not running over, you know, by extraordinary lengths to get the winners figured out. and the TV production team does a good enough job, you know, not lingering on somebody who's taking too long with a particular shot. It's only like the handful of instances where the outcome of the event is in doubt, like last year 2018 at Torrey Pines when J.B. Holmes effectively froze Alex Noren by the length of time that he took on 18 there,
Starting point is 01:09:30 like nearly a four minute shot. Those are the like rare instances where, you're like, oh my God, this is like too much. And he gets properly criticized for that. But like, you know, the thing that's going to change the way that the tour approaches this, the pace of play issue is indeed this groundswell of public observation from the tour. Because the tour is its players. and if the players have reached a kind of frustration point where the tour needs to act and they're using Twitter as the means of conveying that, that's a pretty interesting dynamic. And, you know, I, it is clearly affecting the playing field, I guess, the competition for all these guys to be chiming in in this way.
Starting point is 01:10:23 And so if there's a change, like, you know, it's pretty neat that this is the way that rather than assembling every, in a hall and saying everybody raise your hand if you don't like the pace of play. Like this is, it's a 21st century. You just say, you know, don't be so single minded. Don't, you know, this is kind of outrageous. This is not in keeping with the spirit of the game. And I think it's kind of cool. Yeah, I agree with you.
Starting point is 01:10:47 I'm sort of in your camp as well. When it comes to pace of play, like I only care about it as it affects, you know, whether Brooks is going to win or not. So, you know, when he's matched up with J.B. Holmes, I sort of think, okay, well, this might not be his day. So as far as like, you know, it being the antidote to Brooks, I don't love it for that. But yeah, I agree with you as a viewer. It doesn't really affect me too much.
Starting point is 01:11:13 But it already seems, I mean, even just from this weekend, it seems like it's had an effect. The PGA tour tweeted out on Sunday afternoon, a pretty like bland and lukewarm press release that basically said they were exploring a. adjustments to pace of play, which seemed like kind of a good step forward, considering that the head of the PGA and the few people toward the top of the organization have in the past said that they don't really see it as much of an issue. So, I mean, that's progress in and of itself. And I thought it was, you know, cool that it got to the point that they had to address it on Sunday because so many people were questioning them about it. And I also think that, you know, it's encouraging to see these players, you know, maybe social media is not always the right
Starting point is 01:12:00 method for this. I mean, we've seen that it's definitely not in the past. But I think in this case, it was kind of cool to see them all, you know, calling for it collectively. Yeah, I'm with you. And let me share with you my, this observation, one thing that might help the pace of play Shusty is if more of these guys were playing with Odyssey putters, Odyssey dominated, The putter count at the Northern Trust this past weekend, by far the most putters in play, 41% of the putters in play were Odyssey putters. You know who wasn't playing with an Odyssey putter? Who's that?
Starting point is 01:12:39 Bryson Deschambeau. Why do you think it took him so long? The incredible thing with these Odyssey putters, they have this stroke lab shafts. They're multi-material. And you see guys out there rolling in putts. Odyssey had the most. worldwide putter wins by far in 2019. And they were a perfect.
Starting point is 01:13:01 This is a, I was stunned to see this, good on Odyssey. 14 for 14 in major putter count wins across the PGA, LPGA, and champions tours this year. So in every one of those three tours, the winner of a major won with an Odyssey putter in their hands. Maybe that's the thing. Maybe it's as simple as just setting. Bryson and Odyssey butter. Hey, we might as well try it, right?
Starting point is 01:13:29 Yeah, whatever it takes. All right, Shusty. As always, a terrific golf social. I think we have maybe one more this year. It breaks my heart that the golf season is coming to a close. But on the other hand, I'm ready for the golf season to come to a close. Great talking to you as always, House. Thanks, Shusty.
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Starting point is 01:17:27 In fairness to Bryson. Did you see his post on Instagram today? He said he was going to look inward and try and do better. Wasn't that the gist of it? Oh, yes. It is my responsibility to help improve the game to be more enjoyable for all. Pace of play has been an issue for golf at all levels for a long time. And I'm committed to being part of the solution, not the problem.
Starting point is 01:17:53 He's committed. So did Brooks kept could beat his ass in the locker room or what? Well, he said he wanted to see him face. face and brooks like oh he does okay sure you want to see me face to i'm right here buddy let's have a chat let's break it on down i'll tell you this hey you know uh i was right up next to justin thomas just a few weeks ago and we commented like he it is it is amazing how great he is considering how small and stature he is that's a yes legitimately small guy and you saw the fury in his eyes just imagine if Kepka would have been his partner when he walked off that 70-yard pit shot.
Starting point is 01:18:37 Well, you know what? Here's the thing, and we can pick on the individual discrete pieces of this. But like, the thing we don't know is where the group was ahead of them and where the group was behind them. Because the thing, the benefit that you and I have is we sat down with the head rules official at the, the WGC event down there in Memphis and he walked us through the five different steps they go through before being in a position to actually issue a penalty for being out of time and it's all in relation to the other groups. So we don't know when Bryson's walking that off. And the other thing I'll say is that that that hole was a 300 yard par four. He hit his T shot into a place that, you know, he didn't it wasn't in his book he didn't measure it off uh you know he didn't have a a yardage he
Starting point is 01:19:34 was trying to find the place to land the ball and without knowing whether or not that that walk off had the effect of either delaying the group behind them or putting them out of position with the group in front of them i'm not you know i doesn't uh that one didn't look that offensive to me i'm just saying i'd tell you this that putt when he's lied it up and looking at it from the other side and you see the fury in Justin Thomas's eyes. And the problem is it's all on camera. That was the issue. That's the issue.
Starting point is 01:20:10 And that's what, you know, honestly, like if they were showing somebody else, it's not that big of a deal. But just the fact that the camera was on and then it gets posted on Twitter and the guy posts it. And the one, the version I saw was, uh, basically, basically the Twitter video ran out before I could even get the shot. Like you just watched because you're only allowed two minutes and 20 seconds on Twitter. Right.
Starting point is 01:20:36 And so you saw two minutes and 20 seconds and there was no put hit. And that just set everything on fire. Yeah, that's right. And then got everybody to comment on it. But I must tell you that that pales and comparison to everything else. This was a disaster weekend for Me House. Number one, played in a member of guest, yes.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Won the flight, made it to the last hole or to the shootout. So now there's going to be groups eliminated every hole. So, and I'm sure a lot of our listeners have been in these before. So we get to this moment. Now there's 54 teams in the tournament. So now, as you know, every other cart is now watching. the shootout. And so now there's like, there's a gallery. And so me and my partner were high handicaps. And so we are catching a stroke on the first hole. And I stand up on the T-box and now
Starting point is 01:21:43 I've got to hit the drive. And I'm not kidding you, I hit the greatest drive of my entire life right down the middle, like 25 yards past everybody. Yeah. Verdo's up to the moment. It was, It was a dream. Big balls. My partner, who is also not very good like I, stands up, laces a seven iron onto the green. We are on the green in technically one. Yeah, yeah, gross two, net one. And just for this is a very common format for this shootout.
Starting point is 01:22:20 It's alternate shot at this point, right? Yep. So now what we're thinking is I've got to lag this put. because he's got to make the put so that I can drive the next hole. We're already thinking about the next hole. I love it. I don't call that a mistake.
Starting point is 01:22:38 I love it. It's strategic. Yeah. I lag it up there, but I don't do a great job. I leave about seven, eight feet. I say to my partner, who is a former SEC football player and is a monster of a guy.
Starting point is 01:22:54 I said, look, whatever you do, do not pound it past this hole because it's on a hill. Don't pound it past the hole because we cannot come back down that hill. I said, I don't care if you hit it a centimeter. Don't blow it past the hole. He blows it three and a half feet past the hole. Now I'm standing over a three and a half footer going downhill on an angle and it lips. We four putt and get eliminated from the shootout.
Starting point is 01:23:24 I wanted to die. Die. I mean, there's 50 golf carts watching us. I wanted to die. Absolutely. Like, at this point, people's wives are out there watching. And I'm like, I can't. Like, and so, you know, they give me the trophy.
Starting point is 01:23:40 They give me the money after the thing's done. I was like, I don't even want this. You know what I'm thinking about. And it gave me a glimpse into what these guys go through. You beat me to it. That's right. I was going to say. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:23:52 It will haunt me for the rest of my life. Well, here's the thing. You've been in pressure situations before. It's not like, you know, over your athletic career, over your professional career, you have a way of dealing with pressure. The thing about that experience, and I have this, I'm working on it my own self because I want to be better at golf is I don't have the chops to be in those pressure situations at golf.
Starting point is 01:24:14 So I don't have anything to draw upon, like, athletically. You know what I mean? Like, I know I'm comfortable shooting a three-pointer. I played, you know, competitive basketball. for 25 years. Like I can close my eyes and take this three and not think anything about it. It's game point. It's eight to eight or whatever.
Starting point is 01:24:31 I'm going to make the three to so we win by two because you play ones and twos when you're running pickup. I'll just make it and we'll walk off. I mean, that's it. But like a four foot putt, how many times have I had that count for something? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:24:44 Oh. And I mean, in between the Calcutta, I mean, it's thousands of dollars. And that's all that's running through my mind. We ought not to talk about. Let's not talk about that part.
Starting point is 01:24:55 We don't want the tax people coming at us. We won't say what club. We won't say who the member, who the guests. We won't talk about that. Let me tell you this. I didn't win. You can't tax nothing. Hey, I missed the putt.
Starting point is 01:25:08 I missed it. That's a four putt zero. Now I. So anyways, we, that happens. So now what am I going to do? I'm just going to enjoy my Sunday. And I'll be damned if my. guy HV3 ain't in it.
Starting point is 01:25:27 I mean, he was in it. In it, Bruno. I mean, he's, I'm like, oh my God, he's going to win this thing. Birdie putt 16, birdie putt 17, birdie putt 18. And they're just like a centimeter off. I know. All of them. And then I got to watch friggin Patrick Reed get interviewed by Ballionis after this.
Starting point is 01:25:52 I'm like. You want to talk about the worst weekend ever golf-wise? Number one, I'm lose. I've lost. I'm a broken man. I don't even want to speak to anyone because, you know, everybody's reaching out to me like, hey, how'd the tournament go? I'm like, I don't want to talk about that shit.
Starting point is 01:26:12 And then I'm like, oh, my God, my guy's going to win. He's really going to do this. He's going to get it done. And then I got to watch friggin' Patrick Reed win. I mean, what a buzz kill. I mean, and on tour, it was all villain weekend. It was Bryson with the slow pay and everybody loves to hate on him. And then Patrick Reed won.
Starting point is 01:26:36 I mean, it really was villain weekend. Well, and HV3, not just my guy, by all accounts, everybody loves him. He is one of the most likable guys in the sport. And it would have been his first career PGA tour when he has won the all. Australian. But that would have been the one. And he's right there. And I mean, he is striking the ball beautifully.
Starting point is 01:27:00 And I'm thinking, Harold's going to do this. And then I mean, I've never rooted against somebody in my life like I was rooting against. I was like, every shot I wanted Patrick Reed to screw up. Well, and, and, you know, to cover himself in glory, HV3, I believe, led the field in strokes gained approach. I mean, it was his best ball strike. under pressure like that in his entire career. And that he tied, ended up tied third.
Starting point is 01:27:31 That's his best finish on the PGA tour. So, I mean, can't we just propel that into this week? Can't that just carry over? I'll tell you this. This is how I know that maybe there's at least somebody out there in the desert that think so because I have told you that it has been my, it has been commonplace. I have put $5 on every tournament the guy plays on to pay out 500. And this week when I went and checked, it's $5 to win $400.
Starting point is 01:28:04 He's moved up. He's screwing my odds up by having such a great finish. So he's now plus 9,000 this week because I always check it every week to see if he's in the tournament. But yeah, it's certainly possible if he could stay high. hot. And if he plays like he did last weekend, he'd have a chance. But this field is obviously very, very good. I mean, this is, this is a loaded field for the BMW. Yeah, this is when, when it starts to get serious. I mean, we're finally down to the, to the top 70. This is arguably like the best field that, that you'll get on tour. The PGA championship had, you know,
Starting point is 01:28:45 some number of the top 100 in the official world golf rankings. But this is, you know, we, we have some guys missing stenson's out and you know guys that skip the event or whatever but this is a damn good uh field but this yeah it's incredible and you look up and down and there are odds on eldrick tiger woods i see well let's go ahead and jump right on to on onto that uh it is time for this week in tiger woods tiger tiger so i was just happy to see him at the golf course today because I started recording some segments here on this podcast earlier today and it wasn't he hadn't arrived so I saw on Twitter that he was there he was putting and it looked like he was getting some you know some stretching and stuff in as well I don't
Starting point is 01:29:39 know if he I didn't see him play any full shots and he definitely didn't play anything out on the golf course he is supposed to play in the pro am tomorrow out I don't know whether or not it was deliberate or just because of the shoes he had on. He didn't look right the way he was walking from the parking lot, but I don't want to read too much into that. What do you think about him going up there to Liberty
Starting point is 01:30:04 and giving it a try for a round and then just saying, I can't do it anymore? Does that make you nervous? Does it make me nervous? I mean, he can't play a tournament. I don't know what is going on. And, you know, we went, right, like during the British Open.
Starting point is 01:30:24 Obviously, he didn't make the cut, but we thought, oh, geez, man, is he just going to, is he just going to leave? Because remember how, like, that first round was just miserable. And he just, he didn't look right. And I don't know. Maybe it is all of the ailments are worse than maybe he has even let on, but obviously it has affected his game. And it is crazy to think about the way it's all built up. I mean, he has not played much this season at all house. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:30:55 And you think about how good he was at the Masters. I was having a discussion with one of my friends over the weekend about it. And I said, you know, and it was several episodes back on Fairway Rowland, but I had opined with you guys that, you know, sometimes you cover these NBA players and you say, hey, if you've got a, there's a contract on the line that year, we always talk about sometimes you can't trust guys that have the greatest year of their life in their contract year. because it stands to reason with all of us.
Starting point is 01:31:25 If you told us we could make, you know, 50 to 100 million dollars by getting in the best shape of our life and being the best version of ourselves, well, anybody would do that. You'd be a fool not to. But once you get that contract, do I get that same guy, right, that wanted that contract so badly?
Starting point is 01:31:46 And I say that to analogize with, that's the carrot that is out there sometimes for guys. And then when you get the contract, there's a sense of accomplishment. And so what I had brought up several weeks back was, I cannot help but think, and maybe it is just all physical ailments and everything else, but that you work and you stretch and you work out and you do all of those things. And what if what was hanging out there was, you remember that moment after the master's where he's hugging the kids? And then he said, I just wanted my kids to see, what it was like, right?
Starting point is 01:32:24 He had played very well at the very end of the last season, and then he won that Masters, and he kept talking about his children and how they had never seen that out of him. And I can't help but wonder, like, was that the accomplishment, right? He's already won the most tournaments. There's, of course, the Jack thing
Starting point is 01:32:44 that's out there with the majors. But in terms of just accomplishments, there's very few things that he could accomplish. but one of them was I could be the greatest golfer in the world in front of my children. And once that happened, did that change things? I don't, we'll never know. We'll never know, right? Well, we do have the benefit of how the season played out, though.
Starting point is 01:33:09 And we can look back and observe he didn't play any events between the Masters of the PGA championship. And then he didn't play any events between the U.S. Open and the British Open. I think there's two things going on. And I do believe what you're saying about his sense of accomplishment. I think in some ways it caught him by surprise how his reaction to it. You know what I mean? He was definitely in uncharted waters in terms of, you know,
Starting point is 01:33:40 am I ever going to be able to get back to that level of glory? Am I ever going to be able to climb back up to the top of the mountain? And then he did it. And I think he's like, oh, my God, I can't believe I did it. And they barely like, it took him a month just to process the fact that he did it. It's a thing. A, it's a thing we'll never know how it's right. Is everything different if he doesn't win the Masters?
Starting point is 01:34:06 Well, and the other part of it is the schedule is different. So there's no way for him to have a game plan that he's positive will work under this new schedule because he doesn't know whether or not it'll work. He just has to do his best like everybody else competing. And it turned out like, you know, it didn't work in his favor having won the first major of the year. He didn't practice at all. It didn't seem like leading up to the PGA championship. Then he was sick and he couldn't practice.
Starting point is 01:34:37 So he missed the cut there. Now, you know, he knows Pebble Beach like the back of his hand and has enormous success there. And obviously the legend is what it is. So he didn't, he was able to go perform reasonably well. there but not really ever compete to win that event. And then the British, he had some travel in between the U.S. Open. He traveled internationally.
Starting point is 01:35:01 He went to Thailand with his mother and he took his kids. And then he was basically like exhausted from that. And he was also trying to get his body acclimated, his body clock acclimated to Ireland in the 10 days leading up to that thing. And he was completely out of source. And he finished missing the cut. said, I just want to go home. It's like, well, you've been home for six weeks except for he wasn't home. He was out, you know, he's out living his life. So his priorities are different. And it's not
Starting point is 01:35:29 that he's, it would be different if he was just playing like crap. He looks like he's hurting. I agree. I totally agree. He looks uncomfortable playing. I, I, you know, if we, we're not in a position to have a view on this. It's not our, we're just fans. We just love Tiger. But we want, you know, I would have said just then take off from between the British Open up to the PGA Tour Championship and see if you can defend that title down in Atlanta. And otherwise, just get yourself right. Get yourself some good food and some good sleep and some good massage and some good therapy and work yourself back up into your swing and go do your best to defend that thing and skip
Starting point is 01:36:12 these other events because just like the sheer travel of it, the process part of it. It looks like it's taking a toll on them. Okay, so we got this massive field coming up this weekend. Here, I'm putting you on the spot. Is he playing on Sunday? No. Wow. Well, let me caveat that.
Starting point is 01:36:33 The only, I didn't get a chance. I don't think there's a cut. There is no cut for this event because it's 70 competitors. Oh, that's right. So now that's even a better question. Well, I still say no, because I don't think he physically wants to be there. I mean, it is, he has won there. It's Medina.
Starting point is 01:36:52 He won the 2006 PGA championship. You don't play it out then. He'll play it out. Maybe so, maybe so. But I would rather he go get the rest. Go rest and then just come out to Atlanta. Because with the cut, without the cut, he's at least given a reason that he has to finish, right? You can use the cut and just say, ah, I'm going home.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Well, I'm not going to make the cut. I mean, he shot four over on Thursday at Liberty and just physically is like, I mean, there's no point to keep trying. So he went home from there. I wouldn't, if he did the same thing this week, that would be fine. Wow. Wow. It doesn't, I mean, it doesn't hurt anything.
Starting point is 01:37:31 But actually, you know what? He has to, he's 38th in points right now. So he's not even inside the top 30, so he couldn't go defend. So look at this. I'm correcting the fact pattern. We so thought he was back to. Well, he's back. He won the Masters.
Starting point is 01:37:47 That's enough. I mean. but like that like that he was going to be back in the mix. The guy that's in the mix is Brooks Kepka. That's the guy we need to be paying attention to who's in the mix every week. Well, speaking of, let me just tell you something. You know I checked. And I said, is there ever going to come a day?
Starting point is 01:38:08 And I suppose there will come a day. But that day is not now, Mr. House, because you are never going to believe this. But Brooks Kepka is a. real underdog to Rory McElroy in the tournament matchups. I went and looked, listen to this, plus two and a half minus 120 or plus 130. Wait, what? Two and a half, two and a half what? What are you talking about? Plus two and a half strokes. What? Minus 120. No. Yes. That can't possibly be true. How can that be true? It's true. It is the. It's the. Is this a tournament matchup or a first round matchup?
Starting point is 01:38:52 A tournament matchup. No, I, I, I, hold on. I'm going on my thing. I just can't believe that. Plus two and a half minus 120 or plus 130 on the money line. I'm looking at it right now. Well, I need to, I mean, I'm not in your book. Because all I see is, he's plus 110 in the tournament matchup I have.
Starting point is 01:39:17 I don't have any odds on my site. for strokes right now. I'm looking at it right now. Plus two and a half strokes. What are we? Well, how about this, though? If you bet that this past week, you would have lost. If you bet it at Liberty National that you lost.
Starting point is 01:39:35 I know. Look, we just have to decide if Brooks Kepka gives a shit about this tournament. How do we know? Who knows? Who's going to tell me? It's too hard. It's too hard to know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:46 Well, let's go ahead. Let's go ahead and get to our. Epic Flash pick of the week. Epic Flash is the driver made by Callaway continues to lead all the tours as the driver of choice. And the innovative flash face technology is delivering faster swing speeds,
Starting point is 01:40:08 which means longer balls in the air and longer balls on the ground. Hey, you are going to love this. No, you're, I, I did not tell you this earlier, but I swear to God, this is true. I borrowed the epic flash from the clubhouse of the tournament that I played in. Yes. That's what I hit that drive with.
Starting point is 01:40:32 Wow. It was the best drive of my life. It was an epic flash, stiff flex nine and a half degree. That's what it was. That's what it was. I promise you. I used it. I asked them if I could use their demo club from their clubhouse and they let me use it.
Starting point is 01:40:53 I also used one at Cog Hill in Chicago. I played that course and I used an epic flash there. It is, I mean, I honestly have hit the absolute best drives in my life with that club. Not even close. We got to make that a permanent addition to the Verno bag then. Yeah, no, it's amazing. It really is. it feels different than everything else.
Starting point is 01:41:18 Like I'm not, I'm not doing this as a endorsed commercial. I'm telling you, like, you can swing easy and that thing is hot. That's it. The face of it. God, dog. That's exactly right. The ball goes forever. This is why it's good for old men like me.
Starting point is 01:41:33 I know. I didn't say you. I said me. Good for me because I don't have to swing. You know, I like to swing hard, but, you know, I need the forgiveness that it delivers as well. That's real, too, because even the ones that, like, I didn't hit on the, you know, right on the face. They would go like right or left, but not like far, like one fair way over instead of two.
Starting point is 01:41:55 So it was really, it was either I killed the ball or like maybe two or three times I topped it, which that ain't the club's fault. That's my fault. Yeah, sure, sure. Right? I mean, there is no club they can make that's going to keep me from pulling off it and top and a couple in the shit. That's right. Well, let me hear. You have your eye on any particular thing? Is this matchup that you just mentioned? Are you jumping on that?
Starting point is 01:42:22 Oh, 100% I'm jumping on that. Is there any other picks that you have for us this week? I, you know who I liked? Look, I've always got my customary HV3. But I'll give you a couple guys that I like. I really thought Justin Thomas looked very good this past weekend. Well, when you listen to this portion of the podcast I did with Pat Mayo, you're going to like what you're talking about with Justin Thomas. Oh, I love Pat Mayo. Yeah. He's on this episode? He's the lead item, of course.
Starting point is 01:42:54 Oh, I can dig that. All right. So good. I'm glad Pat Mayo likes it. But I like Justin Thomas and Justin Thomas just didn't make putts. That's it. He could have run away with that tournament. And so he is, if we're doing the whole, he's in great form.
Starting point is 01:43:08 He hits the hell out of the ball. He's good with long. irons. It's just a matter of if he makes putts. And so the course actually sets up pretty well for him with all the dog legs and, you know, he can, he can hit the crap out of the ball. And now if he hits his irons like he did this past weekend, I mean, it's just a matter of, you know, some weeks you're going to make the putts and some weeks you're not. And if he can do one of those strokes gain putting weekends, I just thought, I thought he looked really good. I thought he played really well. You're on this.
Starting point is 01:43:43 The stats back you up. He co-led the field in greens and regulation. So he was, you know, him and I might have been HV3 led the field in greens and regulation. And he was sixth in proximity to the hole. So what you're saying is absolutely on the money. The stats back you up. I like that. Do we rock with Jason Day because he just got rid of Stevie?
Starting point is 01:44:06 Jason Day. Somebody's finally not telling him he's a sack of crap. And so he's going to. Look, Jason Day's been to stay away all year. Hey, you know how funny that would be, though, is if he was like, you know, because that's one of the things is like, you know, you kind of need to be motivated by Stevie Williams, right? You get the gruff guy, the guy that's, you know, the real straight shooter. Yeah, the old school coach.
Starting point is 01:44:30 Yeah, and I think. I think Jason Day just couldn't take it. He's like, all right, enough with this. And so they broke up. It didn't last very long, did it? It would be so funny if he can. came out with like a regular caddy that wasn't like jumping his ass and telling him what to do. And he like turned into some like superhero this weekend.
Starting point is 01:44:50 I almost want that to happen just for the story of the breakup. And now here's Jason Day. Well, you can bet them on it. We'll call that, you know, the good story top 20. You could just do a top 20 play on. Let me see what the odds are. I bet there are plus odds on Jason Day for a top 20. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:06 And you know, hey, and if it weren't for all these, the way this course is set up and all the dog, legs and the fact that I don't know where the hell the ball is going off the tea with Jordan. I obviously love Jordan Spee coming back and playing like he did this past weekend. But with this particular course and the fact that those, I mean, he is all over the place. Even that final round, the way that thing started, he hit it three fairways over. Now, in fairness, he put it on the green in two. But it's never great when you have to instruct. the gallery to move.
Starting point is 01:45:43 Like the entire gallery has to move so you can hit your shot. And so being that you're having to cut all these corners at this course, I would want to rock with him, but I can't do it because of that. His
Starting point is 01:45:58 ball striking and his putting, he's having his best putting performance on tour ever. Which is insane. It's insane. Considering that run he had? Yes. Oh my God. But it's the putting is the thing that's keeping them even in these events.
Starting point is 01:46:14 I know. He'd be missing the cut every week, but for the putting. So I like, I'm, I looked up Jason Day. If you want to do a Jason Day narrative bet, that's, you can play them to top 20 at plus 125. So that's plus odds. If you just want to bet on, wouldn't it be funny? You know,
Starting point is 01:46:31 the week after Stevie. Justin Thomas to win right now on my book is 14 to 1. And I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to get speed here in a second. But you like, you're going to do a Brooks over Rory tournament matchup. You like Justin Thomas to win possibly at 14 to 1. And you also like Jordan Speath to win.
Starting point is 01:46:53 And I'm going to have that odd. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm staying away from Spee. I can't do it. You're just rooting for him. Yeah, I'm rooting for him to play well again. But because of the disaster off the tea, you know, you're like with all these dog legs and cutting these corners, I can't.
Starting point is 01:47:08 he's 28 to 1 to win. I know, but I'm going to join you. Now, you have to listen to Pat Mayo. Pat Mayo gave out a three-tore winner. He gave out a parlay of Brooks Keppka, Victor Hovland, who's playing in the corned fairy thing because he's trying to win his card. And then somebody on the check tour, I don't even remember anymore. But if you get all three of those right, that parlay pays out,
Starting point is 01:47:38 1, 260 to 1, something like that. So if you want to put $5 on that, you can listen to that one. My epic flash pick of the week, this is going to sound like a little bit of a cop out. I'll join you on Justin Thomas, though, at 14 to 1. But I really like this idea of just trying to get a little value. Ian Polter is available right now to top 20 at plus odds, which he's available at plus 125. So you bet 100. You win 125.
Starting point is 01:48:07 you've got 500, you'll win, you know, 625. I just love him at Medina. He's playing well. He has top tens in the last two starts. He had a top, he had T for 14 in Scotland. I thought he hit the ball pretty damn well at Liberty last week. So I'm just looking for him to top 20 and getting him at plus odds, you know, odds where I get a return on my investment here. That's my epic flash pick of the week.
Starting point is 01:48:35 I'm just trying to make it easy at this stage of the season. Fair enough. Yeah, the Kepkova Rory is like, that's just, that's been my ATM all season. So I'm taking that. And the Justin Thomas, they beyond the fact that he played so well this past weekend. Did you see that video posted today? I can't remember who it was. Maybe I'll get it wrong if I try to mention it.
Starting point is 01:48:57 But it was Justin Thomas, Ricky Fowler, and Jordan Spee swinging left-handed. Yeah, it's incredible. I saw it. It's, it's, it was Ricky and Justin Thomas swing left handed. Their swings are better than my swing that I've been playing with for 25 years. It was the most depressing video I've ever watched in my life. How? How do their swings look that unbelievable left handed?
Starting point is 01:49:23 It's in them. It's in them. What could you say? They know golf is in them. It ain't like us. That was the damnedest thing I ever saw. I mean, you watch anybody do something with their off tan. And it does.
Starting point is 01:49:36 The fact that all three of them, none of them looked weird. They looked like they had professional golfer swings, just doing it the opposite direction. You know why that is? Because they're professional golfers. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my analysis. They don't foreput like me. I've heard out.
Starting point is 01:49:54 We'll be back after. We're going to be reconvened for the end of the season. The Tour Championship will have some superlives to get out, give out. Hopefully Tiger Woods plays in that thing. Fingers crossed. I'll talk to you in a couple weeks. My man. Thanks, House.
Starting point is 01:50:07 Thanks, Verna. All right, birdie buddies. There we go. Another edition of Fairway Rowland. We are done. It's time for the 19th hole. One last show for this season coming up. It'll be after the tour championship.
Starting point is 01:50:24 We're going to have an array of our beloved pals that we've had on all season long. And we'll just put a bow on this 2019 season. hopefully we see a little Tiger Woods before the end of this season. He hasn't announced yet whether or not he's playing at Medina, but for sure he's got to go defend his title in Atlanta. We want Tiger in his very best form. Hopefully we'll be talking about Tiger in a couple weeks. Until then, my Eagle enthusiast,
Starting point is 01:50:53 let's hit him straight out there.

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