Fairway Rollin' - Quail Hollow Best Bets With Pat Mayo. Plus: Phil Mickelson’s Calves | Fairway Rollin’

Episode Date: May 1, 2019

The stage is set for the Wells Fargo Championship and all the big non–Tiger Woods names are ready to play. Joe House is joined by DFS golf specialist Pat Mayo who offers his expert analysis on whom ...to bet on at Quail Hollow as well as the nearing PGA Tour Championship (3:10). Then Megan Schuster drops by to discuss Phil Mickelson’s newest Instagram video as well as Tiger Woods’s limp caught on camera (36:30) before Chris Vernon calls in to offer his picks for the weekend (60:00). Host: Joe House Guests: Pat Mayo, Megan Schuster, Chris Vernon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Today's episode of Fairway Rowland brought to you, as always, by our good friends at Callaway Golf. Calloway has launched its own play yellow golf ball campaign to support the Children's Miracle Network. Jack and Barbara Nicholas, in conjunction with the PGA tour, have launched a campaign that calls on the golf community to play yellow to raise money for children's hospitals. The goal of the initiative is to raise $100 million. for children's hospitals over the next five years. Calloway announced last week its own play yellow campaign. They are donating $4 to the Children's Miracle Network hospitals for every dozen of the company's ERC soft yellow golf ball sold.
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Starting point is 00:01:48 Stop because trains can't. Hello, friends. Welcome to this golf podcast, unlike any other. Oh, yeah. We've done it. You're here. We've made it. It's another beautiful week of golf on fairway.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Roll! The new golf podcast on the Ringer podcast network presented by our pals at Callaway Golf. By birdie buddies. What a week. Our guest today, Patrick Mayo, you know him from his outstanding daily fantasy advice and guidance. He's at the PME. He's on FantasyNational.com giving out all great picks.
Starting point is 00:02:38 We're looking at Quail Hollow this week, the Wells Fargo. We're also looking out forward a couple of weeks to the beautiful PGA championship coming up at Beth Page Black. Of course, Verno is on. We make our epic picks of the week. And Megan Schuster, speaking of Epic, an unbelievable week in golf social, some incredible videos. Phil Mickelson, Andy Sullivan, and Tiger Woods is limping, but we're not worried. All right, my friends. The first tea is open.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Let's go up there and peg one. Ladies and gentlemen, now on the tea from Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada, the assistant to the assistant pro at Cabot Cliffs Golf Club on Nova Scotia. This gentleman won the 2019 Fantasy Sports Riding Association Daily Fantasy Rider of the Year and the podcast of the year awards along with the Fantasy Sports, Trade Association, Best Video Award. He is a contributor to Draft Kings. He's on the board of governors at FantasyNational.com
Starting point is 00:03:50 and host of the daily show and podcast, the Pat Mayo Experience, the one the only, Patrick Mayo. I always appreciate that when anyone lists stuff from Canada, they have to put Canada afterwards. Like people are going to confuse like Toronto with Toronto, California. I always like that. It's a nice ad. Well, look, I love Canada and I love all Canadians.
Starting point is 00:04:16 I've told you many times that you're my second favorite Canadian right behind Aubrey Drake Graham. And this is this convening of Great Golf Minds has been a long time coming. And by Great Golf Minds, I mean, you have a Great Golf Mine. And I read your content and then I parent that shit when I come on. on my own podcast and so forth and try and give you props as much as I can. But we've been, I've been an admirer of, of you and Feinberg and the fine work that the two of you do on, on the Pat Mayo experience all the way back to the good old days of Danny Willett in 2016.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Back when we used to hit winners, I've been living off that pick for like four years. Well, it was a big hit. I mean, you guys, I didn't get in there until he was at 50 to 1. You guys had him at, at what? We got him at 150. It really worked out perfectly because he won in Dubai the same week that we hit Duffner to win Career Builder. So we like, the account overflow it. And whenever you hit a winner, you're like, well, let's, let's take a gander at some of these major futures out here.
Starting point is 00:05:23 It's like, Danny Willis, like, the 10th best player in the world, they haven't adjusted his odds yet. Let's just dump on that. I mean, it paid for over half my wedding. So I love Danny Willett for life. I throw five bucks on him every time he's in a tournament, although he's like garbage now. Well, but still, that's that's just paying it forward. You've, you've, you've taken all the glory. The winner of the 2016 masters, nobody heard of them before and really nobody's
Starting point is 00:05:47 heard anything from him since. But that, that's the moment. That's when I knew that we were, you and I, uh, and brother Feinberg, we're going to have a long, uh, and fruitful relationship of, of content, uh, comparing. and content admiration. Speaking of content admiration, I have been a subscriber to FantasyNational.com
Starting point is 00:06:12 really since its inception. And I want to share with all the fairway role in listeners what this Fantasy National machine is all about. So I'm giving you the floor to tell our folks
Starting point is 00:06:28 about FantasyNational.com. The easiest way to describe fantasynational.com is it's basically the pro football focus of golf. Like if you're trying to do golf research, you have to have the official world golf rankings open in one tab. And then the PGA tour site open in another tab. And all of a sudden, your computer's running slow because you have 28 tabs open. You can't find the information you want to find. It's all at Fantasy National. You can sort by any date range. It's a huge stat database. And the best part of the site is no one's going to influence your pick. It's just data that you can
Starting point is 00:06:59 make your picks out of it. It's super easy to use. So it has all the tools. Like, if you play on drafting, they'll set out ownership projection. It gives you a lineup generator. There's a tournament simulator where we run it a thousand times, 10,000 times. So like, I always, I mean, you're the same way. We like to bet outright winners. We like to have the fun of doing that. But like, the real value is made on like top 20 bets and in play head to head. Like the live stats from the site alone are worth the membership because we have been killing head to heads. All you really need to do is just find out, hey, this guy gained like eight strokes putting in round one. Yeah, he's going to have a terrible day tomorrow. Find the guy who lost four stroke
Starting point is 00:07:37 putting was all over at Pita Green and his fantasy national just spits out the information for you. So whether you're playing daily fantasy, whether you're betting on golf, whether you just like to see who's good and who's not because you just enjoy the lovely game. Fantasy National is the place. It's so easy to use. Yeah, I love, you know, the thing about the moment that we're enjoying in Golf Analytics right now is, you know, virtually every event on tour, it's very easy to get your arms around what the crucial metrics are going to be for that particular venue. Like, you know, it's like a couple strokes of the Google or just checking in with some of your, some of ones, you know, sort of trusted consigliaries when it comes to the golf gambling content.
Starting point is 00:08:27 okay, this Quill Hollow event, for instance, driving distance, very important. Strokes gained off the T, very important. What else? It's crucial. You've done the work already. Yeah, so the thing that I found, because they did the complete run of, they changed the greens in 2014. They went from Bent, they went to Bermuda, overseeded with Poa, and then before the PGA championship in 2017, the year that the Wells Fargo was at Eagle Point, they made a new hole,
Starting point is 00:08:55 they extended the course. It became super difficult. It was no walk in the park to begin with. But now we're dealing with it's a par 71. That's almost 7,550 yards. So you got to be long. Like the last guy to win this event at this course that didn't finish in the top 80 in driving distance was Jim Furek in 2007. So we've seen Derek Ernst here win in the past.
Starting point is 00:09:17 So it would lean me towards the bombers here. The big difference is if you're going to take a bomber, you have to have someone with a short game. Like, this is what we saw from Jason Bay last year. Like, his irons were not sharp. And if we remember, the first hole, he got bailed out by hitting the pin on that star three. But his up and down game was just at a control. So if you can bomb it out there, it's a lot like heritage in that way.
Starting point is 00:09:38 I mean, heritage is a significantly shorter course. But if you can miss on the proper side of the hole, I was going to say right side of the hole, but then that gets confusing. Like, sometimes it's better to be in the right rough in the first cut than it is to be on the left side of the stairway because now you're not dealing with bunkers. You're not dealing with water. You're not dealing with awkward pin placements that you need to be able to get to the level that you need to get. Like, even looking back, five of the past seven winners of this course have finished in the top 10 at Quail Hollow in one of the past two seasons.
Starting point is 00:10:06 So there's a local knowledge that goes along with this and just playing a lot of rounds and having that up and down game a lot like Riviera. We've seen J.B. Holmes and James Hahn, they both won at this course. I mean, they're not particularly great players, but there's something about the shot shapes off the T, the distance off the T, and the ability to can navigate around these green complexes that are just purely similar. So if a guy plays well at Riviera, chances are he's going to play well at Quail Hollow as well. Yeah. So the categories that you identify, the key stats, and all of these are things that you can, the reason that I wanted to sort of go through this is because Fantasy National makes it super easy.
Starting point is 00:10:45 You just plug in these metrics that it in you have in front of you with the stroke of a couple keys, you know, immediately a listing of a whole variety of names of guys that perform well in these categories. But we talked about strokes gained off the T, driving distance gain. You just talked about how crucial it is to have a good up and down game. That strokes gained around the green. Proximity gain from 175. You know, that is that old, this used to be, I think, a little bit more of a second shot course. And I don't know that that's the case anymore. And then, and par five's gained. So all the, you know, those are categories that suggest that you need to be getting off
Starting point is 00:11:28 the T. And I love the way that this sets up for Bethpage because, you know, the one aspect of, of this place that's going to be different from Beth Page is you can miss, you can be in the rough here and not really get yourself in jail. The rough at Beth Page is going to be absurd. But you have to have the distance. You have to have the length. You have to be able to hit irons in.
Starting point is 00:11:51 from 175 and 185 and 195 to be successful at Bethpage. So it gives us, I think, a little bit of a feel for, you know, guys in form. And, and, you know, it's not going to be a big surprise. These names at the top of this list, obviously, you know, Rory, duh. I'm actually interested. I'm not, I haven't seen Tony Fee now as sort of widely celebrated for this event, as I would have anticipated after his good masters. Why do you think Tony's not included among sort of the leading contenders for this thing?
Starting point is 00:12:29 Well, I mean, it's just tough to bet Tony as an outright because he never win. Like, he's the ultimate top 10 bet, no matter where he goes. I mean, this is the site of Rory's first PGA win. This is the side of Ricky's first PGA win. Obviously, Justin Thomas's first major. And if you think that Tony Fienow is in that mold, like he can rise to that level eventually in his career. Like his skill set is perfect for this. one thing that he doesn't do well is he sucks around the green.
Starting point is 00:12:53 And it tends to take him out of contention in some of these tournaments. And we always like to say that Tony goes full phenow where he'll par somehow, the easiest par five on the course. And then all of a sudden he'll make like a 55 foot birdie putt on a really hard par three. And somehow he finds himself to level water. But he's a bad Bermuda putter when you go through it. And frankly, he's just not having that grade of a year. He had the good masters. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:16 But other than that, like he was garbage at Valero. He's making cuts. but nothing that you really want to see him. And for a while, like the players, WGC, Mexico, Genesis, Pebble Beach, he was gaining like four or five strokes putting on the field. And Tony Fino is not a good putter. So eventually he's going to switch back the other way. Like, if he can harness the around the green game, but like he's still listed at 20 to 1 this week. Like he's among the favorites. Just, I can never find a reason to get behind Tony Fino. I did to myself in Phoenix, like an idiot. I was like, I'm going to have Tony Fino and Ricky Fowler. They're both
Starting point is 00:13:49 20 to 1, I'm going to bet one of them. And I was like, this is a great spot for Tony to win. Not the guy who plays well here every year. The guy with multiple PGA wins with worldwide wins who comes inside the top 10 of every major. Now, I'm just going to go with Tony Pinaw and he's going to gag it away and miss the cat. Well, I bet Phil for that one. So I share in your pain.
Starting point is 00:14:09 And Phil, after shooting, you know, he was three or four under on the first day and then came out and he just hit eject on Friday. That's my behind is still. soar from that one. So we obviously, like Rory, his credentials at this event are impeccable. Give us a couple of names that folks may not be anticipating.
Starting point is 00:14:33 For the daily fantasy, the Draft King lineups, where are you seeing some value out of names that are not household golf names? Well, for me, I look at Rory, and whether it's the betting market, he's 6 to 1, draft Kings, he's 118. So if you have to compile a team and you're using a ton of your salary cap on Rory, like this still has 156 players in it and the bottom part of it, not great.
Starting point is 00:14:57 So if you take Rory, you're basically banked out like Strocka to make the cut. That's not really a position you want to be in. And Rory, in fairness, did not play great at the PGA championship here. He wasn't lights out a season ago. He's clearly playing a lot better now than he was 12 months ago. But maybe this new layout for Quail Hollow, he's still taking a time to recalibrate, just a little bit. So I can bid Rory at the top. Like, I'm not betting anyone at 6 to 1. That's never happening. And even when you look at like Dave Fowler and Rose, they're all like 10 to 1.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Like, give me a break. That's why I'm betting on golf right. So I want a big payday. For Drop Kings, I actually do like Justin Rose because no one wants to take him after he screwed everyone at the masters. But I think starting off, if you look at sort of a complete player and you're getting a discount on his odds because he's coming at 25 to 1 and you think about somewhere like the PGA championship, like it's a longer course that can correlate well with this, but if you look at some of the shorter courses that might correlate well with Quail Hollow, because Sean O'Hare has won both these events, and he's now the back-to-back winner of the Valspar. That's a hard course that doesn't necessarily require the same length off the tee, but Paul Casey has it. He's excellent off the tee. He's light set with approaches. And his around
Starting point is 00:16:08 the green game has been tremendous. And if you go to Fantasy National and you sort by lightning greens and fast greens because these greens are super quick. Paul Casey, well, not a great putter, is inside the top 10 and strokes game putting when you dial it up to 11. Actually, it'd be like dial it up to 14 on the Stimp. But, you know, if we're going to use spinal tap, we'll stay with 11. I like Paul Casey. I am, I still, I played he and Justin Rose both for the Masters. And I'm a petty dick.
Starting point is 00:16:37 So after I get effed by guys like that, you know, with with an inexplicable eject performance at something where they've been, you know, lights out for some number. of consecutive. I'm, I, the, the play I see here that I might consider is Paul Casey at two to one odds, uh, to top 10. I might mess with that. I, I, I, I couldn't pick Paul Casey to win this event. Um, I'm still, uh, very, very hurt by him. It's, it's tough to go and betting Paul Casey, considering he's only one twice in the past 10 years and it's been at the same course. So right, the top 10 is probably a more logical wager, but I'm not here to make logical wager. I want to win. It's just like, I like Patrick Reed this week.
Starting point is 00:17:19 And Patrick Reed kind of goes completely against the narrative that I've spelled out. But when you start looking at courses that are over 7,400 yards that plays difficult relative to par. And this does. It was the hardest course two years ago. It was the fifth hardest course last season. And that includes all the majors that Patrick Reed, just for whatever reason, like he won at Beth Page the last time they played there for the Barclays like four years ago. Something about these long forces. He has a win.
Starting point is 00:17:43 It's a row. But it just speaks to Patrick Reed. and he's sort of like a mini Dustin Johnson in a way where if Dustin Johnson, you've got to September and he hasn't won on tour yet, he's going to win sometime soon because he wins every year. Patrick Reed is almost in the same boat. And I mean, he donned the green jacket. He hasn't won since. So it's about to become Patrick Reed time somewhere.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Like, he's 40 to 1. You can find him as deep as 50 to 1 at some place. I believe Draf King Sportsbook has that number up that you might as well bet him every week. I mean, there's like 10, 12 good tournaments that he's going to play. and last. If he just wins one of those, you're getting four to one on your money. I don't we need to see him string together like just two rounds, though? There was a big deal about him changing. You got a whole new set of irons.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Tidalists made a set of irons for him that were supposed to be replicas of what he's playing, you know, the Calloways that he'd had previously got all beaten up. And then he made this big public statement about how much he loved those things. And then he shot consecutive rounds of over 74. for like the next six rounds. And then Justine had to put him in touch with David Ledbetter. And, you know, I, I, do we think that the performance at the Masters is, is reasoned, you know, cause for, for a reset on Patrick Reed?
Starting point is 00:19:03 I don't think so. Patrick Reed is one of these players. Like Martin Kimer is another player like this. I mean, the guy has two majors, but most of the time you look at his numbers, like, well, he just comes 50th every week. This is kind of strange. but when they get into contention, they win. And it's just like a light switch with Patrick Reed.
Starting point is 00:19:21 All of a sudden, like his swing is off, he's shanking it everywhere. He always has an immaculate short game. And he is one of the better putters on tour. I mean, putting is fickle. The worst putter in the field can be the best putter on any given day. So it's really hard to track putting staff. But it's his swing. You can tell almost by like whole five with Patrick Reed that like, oh, he's got it.
Starting point is 00:19:40 And when he's got it, never when he won to row when he claimed he was like the fifth best player in the world or like top five in the world. A great moment. When he's rolling, when he's rolling, he's not wrong. It's just, he's not rolling most of the time. So he also has to cast a wide net with him. That I think it's going to happen for him soon. I have no idea where.
Starting point is 00:19:58 I don't think the course matters. Because when playing well, he's like, he is a top five player in the world. Yeah, he's literally fairway rolling. I love it. Well done, Pat May. Oh, I appreciate it. Okay, well, in both of those guys, those are two like contrarian flavors, which is nice. I saw on your list
Starting point is 00:20:15 and I talking to my compatriot Chris Vernon down in Memphis and he had a visit with Keith Mitchell this week who was down there doing some promotion for the WGC event that's going to be in Memphis, Tennessee at the end of July. What do you think about Keith Mitchell? 90 to 1
Starting point is 00:20:37 he's available at right now. Yeah, Kelly Keith is my guy. It really sucks because he was one of these guys that was like 225 to 1, 200 to 1 a year ago. And I was just hammering him every single week. I did a season preview. I was like, Keith Mitchell is going to get a win this year. Then I forgot the guy can't put on Poa.
Starting point is 00:20:54 So I stopped betting him on, I bet him like twice on Poa. And he was an absolute disaster. I was like, he's Bermuda Keith Mitchell. His only positive putting stats are on Bermuda. He gets to Honda. I was like, ah, short course, not going to bet him. Of course he wins. Looking at statistical modeling this week, he's number 12 when you look at the past 36 rounds.
Starting point is 00:21:13 And just for reference, like Rory's number two, Rose is number nine, Hedekke's number six, Casey's number five, Woodland is number three, Lucas Glover's inside the top ten. So I like Killa Keith down at 90, but I'm such a sucker house. Every single week, I go to the window and I say, this is the week that Luke List and Bionne Han are going to make three-foot puffs. And every week, I look at my bank account and I have to tell my wife that, you know, that money's there. That's coming like in a week's time.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Don't worry about that. Like, these guys just suck my bank. money enemy. I can't help myself. Young Hunt Ann rates out better than Rory at this course says if you extract putting from it. But at Quail Hollow, it has the, it is the course, but the most screens where they miss most of the time inside five feet of any course on tour and the most miss putts from inside 10 feet. Now, these two guys, they already missed those putts. So that's fine. If everyone else starts three putting like them, as long as they're not five putting, that's where they can make up the gap. They're 60 to 1, 80 to 1. If the time
Starting point is 00:22:13 is going to happen. Like Ben Ann is an immaculate driveries, top 20 in driving distance, seventh and approach is the best player around the green. Luke List, awesome from beyond 175 yards. One of the longest players in the world, fourth off the tee. And unlike most these bombers, really good around the green. It's got to happen for these guys sooner.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Like, my house is going to be reposite. Well, I like both those guys. Luke List is available at plus 240 as a top 20. our boy Keith Mitchell is available at plus 315 to top 20 and I'm looking for Benny. There's Benny plus 212. So all three of those guys, Benny and Luke available at better than 2 to 1 odds. And our boy Keith Mitchell available at better than 3 to 1 odds. Just a top 20.
Starting point is 00:22:59 I like those plays. You mentioned at the beginning of all this. That's where the value comes out. Maybe just do that for your wife. Could you just do a little bit of top 20 action? Is that enough? I could, but I'm still living off that Willett pick. I was like, Annie Willett paid for a wedding.
Starting point is 00:23:16 I owe it to Doug. Luke List could basically pay for a say. He can pay for my second way. He can pay for the divorce. All right. He ends up winning. I'm so into him. But the thing is where he's like, he lingers around like 80 to 1, 100 to 1 that.
Starting point is 00:23:29 You can't really be too dejected when a guy who's 80 to 1 doesn't win because you bet him 20 times. Like if he comes through around the 25th time, I still got 4 to 1 on my money. And trust me, I pumped a lot of money into this. Yeah, I get it. That's right. You need a little R.O.I there. Speaking of R.O.I. I know you and Feinberg have started your early looks at Beth Page. You have some thoughts on potential value. I have to begin with this. Did you guys, either one of you put anything on Tiger at the Masters? No. No. No, no. I didn't. Me either. I didn't. You know, in fact, I live bet everybody on Saturday and even live bet Malinari on Sunday. day and I deliberately didn't live bet tiger. And when he hit the ball in the trees on number 10, I immediately pulled up the live bet to see he was hovering around plus 275,
Starting point is 00:24:21 so just under three to one. And I was dying for that to get jacked up into like the four plus four something range. And then I was just going to hammer in a little bit. And it never moved. It stayed right where it was. And then it went the direction that it went. So I left. All I had on Tiger for the week was a top 10.
Starting point is 00:24:38 That came through. The problem is, like, if you're live betting Tiger, no matter like what Tiger's odds are, and this was always the issue when you were trying to bet him before he became Tiger, at least Tiger 3.0, which we know now is that they know everyone wants to bet Tiger, so they're never going to give you good odds. Never going to get it. And it doesn't move. Like for some guys, you know, it'll move based on what the T-ball does, not Tiger.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Didn't move one iota. What are your guys? So we're just going to dismiss Tiger. there's no value there. He's eight to one on the books that I've seen so far at Beth Page. I'm going to sit back and admire and root for him to play well. Where is there any value at this stage? We're a couple weeks out, Pat Mayo.
Starting point is 00:25:25 What are the value plays you guys are imagining for the PGA Championship? Well, we know this is a tough course. So you have to think you need to be long. You need to be able to ball strike. And you need to be able to stand over a 10 foot put. and not have your pants go brown. So I was looking at Gary Woodland, and that's my issue with Gary Woodland,
Starting point is 00:25:45 that if it comes down to like a critical eight-footer, I mean, I've watched this guy miss two-foot-putts to miss the cut. That's not great. So I'm thinking that weather could play a factor in this. The weather gets cranked up and it's cold, it's windy. I mean, it's New York and May. You can have a bad weekend. Then someone like, running grace all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:26:04 is someone that I have some interest in. But, like, in ideal conditions, I want nothing to do with that guy. So that's something for like value-wise right now. He's like 125 to 1 that if you wanted to get in, I don't hate that. Sergio plays this course immaculately, going back all the way to the first U.S. open in the early 2000s to the Lucas Glover win, even through like when I played at the Barclays. He's 40 to 1.
Starting point is 00:26:27 And like if Sergio tanks this weekend, that number's going down. No one walks up saying, you know who I want to bet this week? Sergio Garcia, everyone hates the guy's guts. They'd rather bet like Patrick Cantlay. So Sergio, I think. I think Sergio is a good value. And I feel like Tommy is at a sight, at a mind at the moment, that he's not probably going to play again until the PGA championship.
Starting point is 00:26:47 I see him as low as 30 to 1 right now. I like that number a lot that you might even get some drift by the time it comes long because he was the darling, but he didn't win. Now everyone's on to Alexander Scheifle, and everyone's on to Tony Fee now and Cantlay and these sorts of guys. And people are going to hype up Couture, although I think he's too short for the scores. you have someone like Tommy Fleetwood. We know his track record at U.S. Open.
Starting point is 00:27:11 And I feel like this is going to play like a U.S. Open. He is one of those players that's long, he's straight, he's good around the greens, and he's not a great putter, but he is an extremely streaky putter, and he's good inside 10 feet. And we saw that he can go dismantle a hard course last year at the U.S. Open. He always has that one round. Saturday Tommy is someone you need to watch out for, because that guy's prone to shoot like 77.
Starting point is 00:27:34 but he might bounce back the next day with the 63. If he can just keep it together for 72 holes, Tommy Fleetwood could win the PGA championship. I love him. I'm staring at him right now at 30 to 1. Another name that interests me based on the bad weather possibility is Mark Leashman. I see him available at 58 to 1.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Now, I don't know what his track record is at Beth Page. I'm interested in taking a look and seeing what his past experience have been, but whenever I think of like stuff blowing and, you know, bad conditions and guys in rain jackets, I think a leashman because I think about, you know, what he did at St. Andrews that year. I'm not drawing any comparison between St. Andrews and Bethpage. I just think that he's built for, you know, playing in the wind and playing in adverse conditions.
Starting point is 00:28:24 What do you think about him at that kind of number? It has to be windy, though. And I always get really worried. I know he's Australian, but I see Mark with a sea. I think French. And I'm like, oh, I don't know about that. I can't see this guy coming through down the clutch. So, I mean, I'm still mad at Mark Leishman.
Starting point is 00:28:40 I had a huge Kevin Kisner outright at API like two years ago, and he just stormed back and beat him. I hate Mark Leishman. Sure. I get it. Yeah, if you crank up, there are certain guys in the weather, but it's the same reason that I bet Dustin at the Masters.
Starting point is 00:28:54 That is there a course that's better suited for Dustin Johnson than this one? Like, him at the top scares me. It's like Rory this week for Wells Fargo. Like, if Rory just turns it up a little bit, Roy's going to win by like a bunch. So I don't want to make too many wagers knowing it could just all be dead money if Rory shows up. That's why I feel about Dustin and potentially even a ROM at Bethpage, that they are the best for this type of course. Now, whether they can actually come through on that, like, ROM doesn't have a meltdown while the broadcast is going.
Starting point is 00:29:23 He starts smashing gloves like Happy Gilmore, that they possess every skill that you need. Rory too, but Rory's more erratic off the teeth. Dustin hits it long, Dustin hits it straight, and nothing phases the guy. So if the PGA championship is going to be won at like five under, that just reeks of Dustin Johnson. And that's all that scares me at the top of this board. So kind of off leashman, but Tommy's a guy, I feel like he can compete there. Yeah, I like that a lot. What about Frankie Molinari?
Starting point is 00:29:48 There was distance questions with him. And that really flavored how everybody thought about his performance potentially at the Masters, that it was too much golf course for him. But I honestly think, you know, notwithstanding what happened on 12, the majority of what he did at the Masters was kind of an eye-opener for me because he handled the length in a way that I didn't anticipate he was going to be able to navigate. Do you think there's any value?
Starting point is 00:30:18 I see him right now at 22 to 1. You see, 22 to 1 is a pretty good number. Like most of the stuff I'm seeing is like 14 to 1, 16 to 1. Like they have them above ROM, they have them above day and Fleetwood. And when you start assessing the value of these odds, like if we can get Tommy Fleetwood at 30 to 1, and let's say Molinari is 16 to 1, does Molinari have a bet twice as good of a chance as winning as Tommy Fleetwood? I would say no. So I feel like he's now priced with the Brooks Keppka's of the world or somewhere just below it.
Starting point is 00:30:48 It's the same reason to always not bet Ricky Fowler that he's priced up like one of these elite players, and he just never comes through with it. But I think I would start if I wasn't just going to take all my money and bet it on Dustin, which I'm not above doing. That's what I did at the Masters, and it didn't work out. I was two inches away from being able to... You really were.
Starting point is 00:31:06 You really were. It didn't work out for me. So if I started looking at the 20s, you got like Fleetwood, and you got Day, and you got Zander, and you got Bryson Deschambeau, who I think is going to win a major sooner
Starting point is 00:31:18 rather than later. It seems like the computer is a bit out of sorts right now. Someone took a grand fan and chucked it in the computer and it screwed up some other board, but he'll figure it out, and he's not bad at hard courses either. He's got Lane. He's good around the green.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Is his putter going to show up that day? And I don't think that anything's going to phase him when it comes down to this. I would just love to see him and we've seen so many bad guys win and I love Bryson. I think there's a select few people who do like him. But he's generally treated as a villain when it comes to the larger golf community,
Starting point is 00:31:50 like a Patrick Reed, like a Sergio. I feel like Bryson's on that trajectory that people just like to root against them. You need villains when it comes to this. And, you know, it was the year of the two years ago. It was the year of the villain last year at the Masters. Maybe it's time for Bryson-Da-Chambeau to show up and actually win one of these things. I'm right there with you in terms of him being a guy that is going to win a major. I just don't like how he followed up his opening day 66 at the Masters with a string of misfortune and poor play that never really
Starting point is 00:32:26 subsided until Sunday. I can't make any sense out of it. The computer, as you say, was in disarray. And so I just, I'm in a wait and see mode. He could go up to Beth Page and win. I mean, he's got, honest to God, we talked about Lucas Glover and this Quail Hollow thing. I have no idea why I think of Bryson D. Shambo is having a game that's comparable to Glover. But that's my brain makes that connection for some reason. And Lucas Glover, you know, is a U.S. Open champion. And so I, you know, there's no reason that the Bryson can't, you know, string it together. He just hasn't. So, you know, in the majors. So I, I'm just, I'm just nervous. It makes me a little nervous, Pat Mayo. Well, we'll get a better number on him the closer at guests, though, is the best thing.
Starting point is 00:33:15 That's the same thing as Reed, same thing as Sergio. Ian Polter is always undervalued in all these things because everyone hates Ian Polter. That page isn't going to be a course for Polter. Like, Pebble Beach might be, of course, for Polter, because it's short enough that he can rely on just hitting some fairways, getting it up and down, and making a few puss because we know that putter can get hot. Tarel Hatton, another one for Pebble Beach that you're probably not even considering at something like this. I would even go back and look at, I mean, Steve can play long courses just because Speed is good. I mean, he was good. He's no longer good. But when he was good, he could play long course as well, kind of like Patrick Reed, despite being a shorter hitter. But I look back to that British Open when it was him and Coocher in the end. But you had guys like, like how Tom and guys like Brennan Grace. If the weather does get cold and the weather gets windy, like it'd be those types of guys that maybe it's not an outright. Maybe it's a top 10. Maybe it's a top 20.
Starting point is 00:34:05 But those would be the guys that I would have on my radar. And I'm never going to count out my main man, Benny Ann because he will be putting for Bertie from 16 feet on every single hole. And he might shoot five over par. Yeah. I just can't believe the Benny love. It's real. It's real.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Well, look, Pat Mayo, at the P. is your Twitter handle. You can catch all of his insights on the DFS picks. He gives gambling tips and tips for golf every single week. The value plays are out there right now for the PGA championship. And then the run-up to that event, there will be lots and lots of crunching numbers at fantasynational.com. So we'll compare notes, my brother.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Thank you for coming on today. Thank you for having it. It's been a long time coming. I appreciate it. Yeah, and I insist on you returning to favor sometime along the way here. I need to get on the Pat Mayo experience. You just want Feinberg to start crying on the show. You're going to make him cry by making fun of like Melvin Gordon, aren't you?
Starting point is 00:35:09 Yeah, it's a fact. I'm going to tell him that Philip River's kids are all adopted. Oh, he would leave. He would quit the show. Thank you, my dude. My friends, quick break to talk about zip recruiter. Hiring used to be hard. Multiple jobs.
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Starting point is 00:37:17 We had to hit your hometown and you're, you know, the place where you really got your reps coming up. And, and I mean, the juicy loose the juicy hot dog. What a deal. Fantastic. Yeah. I mean, what more could you ask for, really? Really? What more could you? Yeah. Well, you know what I could ask for? What's that? Another video from Phil Mickelson. Oh, well, and guess what? He delivered.
Starting point is 00:37:40 He delivered house. We have, I mean, we, this is perfect. Just, you know, just iconic stuff from Phil. Once again. So he posted the latest installation of his Phil Kondo series on Monday, which, if you haven't been following along, is the series where Phil teaches everyone how to get hashtag calves like Adonis. So I first of all wanted to start things. off by trying to reclaim the term fitzpiration for Phil by suggesting that we start spelling it with a pH instead of an F because Phil is really, really on top of this movement and is really given the people what they want. So he posted. Wait, wait, what's fitzpiration? It's like the Instagram term when you follow people who are super fit. They show you all the workouts that you should be doing. You know, it's just inspiration,
Starting point is 00:38:28 basically, to go out and go to the gym. Yeah. So there is, it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that I was unfamiliar with that term because I follow none of those people on Instagram. Yeah, it's truly a look. But I think Phil reclaiming it would be a great thing for him and for the world, truly. So he starts off this video on a high note by referencing all the bombs that he tried to hit at Augusta, you know, reiterating that that is his goal this season, which he said many, many times. He starts talking about, you know, which muscles are important, if that's your aim, whether it's your arms or your calves, whatever. And then, Then he proceeds to brutally roast Bubba Watson saying that, well, apparently you don't need either of those muscle groups because Bubba's one of the longest drivers on tour.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Which, you know, after his roasting of Matt Hocher during the master's video, we shouldn't have been surprised by this, but it was just really next level, I felt like. You just don't expect the casual savagery. I mean, this really is the theme of 2019 for Phil. it's his calves and his bombs. And that's all we're talking about. Is that right? That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Those are like, if you were to power rank Phil's priorities right now, it seems to be one, hitting bombs and two, trying to inspire the people and give them some great calf workouts. So part, this video was supposedly parts three, four, and five,
Starting point is 00:39:53 which was basically the same workout. You're just adding weight each time. So he's doing some calf lifts. you know, starting out with the body weight. Then he gets in and starts lifting body weight. Plus, he adds a few hundred pounds house. Like, this is not casual weight. He just, he slips under this bar to do some cab raises and just subtly says, yeah, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:16 you should add a few hundred pounds to this. So I am suspicious. Yeah? I'm a little skeptical. Okay. A couple different possibilities. the real the part of it that that
Starting point is 00:40:31 made me pause in terms of the plausibility of it was when he goes one foot and and it's and they're pretty deep knee bends a lot of pressure on the calf I was worried that one of the calves was going to explode to be honest with you now he is a world class
Starting point is 00:40:48 athlete he's a world class bomber so I feel a little bad you know expressing any skepticism whatsoever when it comes to his his calf command, but I don't know. I'll just put it that way. I don't know. I will say I too came away with a few questions.
Starting point is 00:41:09 First of all, he said that he had been working with his trainer that day. They had just finished a workout. And we're now getting into the Cavs Department. So I am wondering if he just like saved up all of the like leg day juice so that he could do a couple calf lifts with a few hundred pounds when maybe that's not his normal traditional workout. just wanted to show off for the people. There was also some interesting editing where when he goes under the bar the first time, you don't really see the bar when he's doing the leg lifts. So I would never want to question the integrity of Phil and his video team.
Starting point is 00:41:42 However, there is a question that we can raise. Well, I do love that you reference his leg juice. And let me emphasize that again, juice when we're talking about all this extraordinary weight that may not be on his shoulders for these vivacious. very deep calf bends. Yes. Calf lifts that he's working on. Yeah, I will say the one thing I was happy about coming away from this video is that
Starting point is 00:42:07 it seems like we pretty much got confirmation that his calves are not implants. So that I was, I was pretty reassured by. It's a relief. It's a relief. Yeah. So this is it. I mean, this is going to be the season of Phil. We have, you know, Tiger is the king of the Gulf kingdom. We're going to, Phil is what? Is he the charmed prince?
Starting point is 00:42:26 I mean, it's, it's not fair to Phil to just refer to him as the Joker or the gesture. He's much, much more. He has got the power and skill of a wizard. His life continues to be charmed. He's got that win already this year at Pabble Beach. And, you know, these videos to all of the members of the kingdom are really just so inspirational to all of us. I just can't wait to see what comes next. I know.
Starting point is 00:42:59 I'm very curious to see how he expands the Phil Kondo series since it sort of feels like we've reached his end with the CAD videos. Like now that you've... Oh, I don't know. You don't think so? I don't think so. Oh, okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:43:12 All right. We'll see what else he can come up with, I guess. I mean, it feels like he could be pulling an automobile behind him. Maybe he could, you know, resistance training. There are a lot of different ways that can go. I mean, there's jumping. there's pliometrics. I mean, we haven't seen his 46-inch vertical in a little while.
Starting point is 00:43:31 There's all kinds of stuff, Shusty. Yeah, maybe we'll just start getting videos of Phil sprinting up and downstairs. That would be pretty great. That's right. All right, well, what else do we got? We have another video that we should talk about. This one, not quite so inspirational. A little bit more concerning, although I'm trying my best, my very best, to reserve judgment.
Starting point is 00:43:51 On Thursday, golf TV posted a video welcoming newly crowned master's champion, Tiger Woods. to their set. Tiger and Golf TV have a partnership now that got announced late last year. They're doing a series of head-to-head matches together, some content partnerships, exclusive programming, all that jazz. So the fact that they released this video makes sense, and Tiger more than likely got the sign off since their partners. However, it was concerning that throughout this entire 35-second video where Tiger, like, gets out of his car, walks through the set, gets congratulated, he limps throughout the entire video. I am not a doctor.
Starting point is 00:44:29 I would certainly never want to try and anticipate what's going on. You know, this could be any number of things, like maybe just some tightness from just having played the masters. Maybe he just like pulled a hamstring. Who knows? But this sort of coming in conjunction with him announcing that he's no longer going to play the Wells Fargo Championship, which many thought would be his pre-PGA kind of tune-up,
Starting point is 00:44:54 What is your concern level with this house? It is a zero. It could be a negative number. I am equally bemused by this video as I think about it. It's how they concede of it. It's execution. The point of it, the whole thing feels a little bit like a parody. Like it could be a plague.
Starting point is 00:45:24 except for everybody is so sincere and genuine. And it looks like it's the golf TV people, their first opportunity to congratulate Tiger on winning the Masters. And they have a giant cake. And I was very excited to see that cake. And I was interested in knowing what kind of cake that was. Because as a noted food expert, I really,
Starting point is 00:45:44 these are the things that capture my attention. I believe that it was the goal was to sort of capture Tiger, like a day in the life kind of thing. Like this is a spontaneous thing where he's walking in with his new peeps and they're so warmly excited for him. And, and, you know, this is just him taking a moment out of his day to be with this great new group of people.
Starting point is 00:46:09 And 100% he's coming from his leg workout. Like he, in the same way, in fact, who knows, maybe he just left Phil Kondo, parts three, four,
Starting point is 00:46:19 and five. Could be. He's certainly, now you're, I think, your observation is astute, which is, you know, it looked like his tightness was sort of higher up the leg. It wasn't, it didn't look like a calf tightness. He wasn't tiptoeing gingerly. Right. The way that you would if you had calf strain or pain. It looked like he'd got maybe done
Starting point is 00:46:40 600 on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, on the, the, on the, the, the leg, the seated power press with the legs and the, and he busted it out, you know, three sets of 15 on the, with the 600 pounds on there. And if you're coming right from the gym, you know, you're still feeling it. And maybe the workout was to make sure that's what gave him clearance to go have the terrific cake that he knew he was going to have lined up for him. But this is the way that I prefer to think about Tiger was at this moment. It was kind of funny, not ha ha, funny, kind of curious that for an outfit that its goal and intention is to deliver.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Tiger television content that all of the parties involved thought that him having this pretty pronounced limp was how we wanted him to be shown at this moment. But look, they're the experts. They're all the ones that are going to be putting out all this terrific stuff. What do I know? I'm just a dumb golf podcaster sitting here talking to you, Shusty. So who are we? Right.
Starting point is 00:47:48 No, and I tend to agree with your assessment. I will say when the video first got posted, I had to like stand up, walk away from my desk and take a lap because I almost had a panic attack thinking that we were back in the dark days of Tiger. But the more I thought about it, the more I realized that like golf TV isn't going to post anything that like truly is showing Tiger in a negative light, you know, they're working so closely together. Like they both must have, you know, watch this video and come with the conclusion that like,
Starting point is 00:48:18 this isn't, you know, a serious issue. otherwise you would think that they would have likely edited around any of the limping, you know, just gotten some like shots of his happy face walking into the cake or whatever. So the more that I thought about it from that perspective of, you know, Tiger, I'm sure, gave the okay to publish this. And if he was actually concerned about what it showed, you would think that would not have gone out. So I agree. I don't think I'm too worried about it.
Starting point is 00:48:45 I'm actually very pro him just taking some time off before the PGA championship. I mean, obviously, he's in great form. He just won the Masters. So I don't think that he needs a tune-up. He's won a Beth page before. So my concern has been lowering since the day of the published. But I will say I had a spike of anxiety for about 10 minutes after I saw it go up. I get it.
Starting point is 00:49:09 I understand it. I feel like that might have been deliberate. Maybe we're at this point where Tigers, you know, driving everybody off the scent. He doesn't want anybody to know what he's doing. He wants everybody to see him kind of, you know, living his real life. And that includes, you know, coming from the gym. And he did it could have been an entirety of it could have been an affect, right? It could have been a put on.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Sure. Maybe he was out working on his chipping. And he's like, watch this. I'm going to walk in here looking like I got a limp because I just, I just chip for three hours. And that's really what he was working on, you know, fine-tuning balls. you know, touch balls out of the, out of the rough. But that, that, that's the version that I'm, I'm prepared to live with. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Yeah. That sounds good to me. I'm, I'm okay with it. Okay. I know there's at least one more. Yes. Yes. Another, another video.
Starting point is 00:50:03 We just, we're full of videos today, House. This one comes to us from the wonderful European tour, who I just want to give a quick shout out to. They are consistently great on social media. They're pre-imposed Rider Cup skits with their team. They just give fun points of access, It's just like generally a fun social media approach that other tours, cough, cough, the PGA could take note of. But right now they're doing this running series called Chase the Ace, where they give pro golfers 500 chances to hit a hole in one.
Starting point is 00:50:32 So last week, Andy Sullivan went on and this word gets thrown around a lot, but this video is like truly iconic. It was great. They brought Andy to the London Golf Club and set him up. He comes into it really positively. It says he was dreaming about hole in ones the night before. just seen ready to go. The shot production of the video is great. The concept is super fun.
Starting point is 00:50:53 But overall, it's just especially great because they let Andy really be Andy. Like, he cusses like a sailor almost the entire time, which side note, I'm just glad to know that golfers are still somewhat relatable because if that was me out there, I would be doing the exact same thing. And they just let him roll with it.
Starting point is 00:51:10 You really see like the full range of frustration to elation when he eventually makes the hole out. it was just an extremely fun and enjoyable experience. So a couple thoughts. In the first place, kudos. I'm going to echo your kudos to the European tour because up to this moment, how in the hell would I know what a charming fellow Andy Sullivan is? Right?
Starting point is 00:51:34 I was stunned. Right. What a charming fellow. That was my first reaction. Like, I love this guy. He was so invested. He was so earnest. He was so sincere.
Starting point is 00:51:46 in his efforts to accomplish this. And he truly lived that golf experience of trying to do something that you know you can do, but being frustrated by how close you get and not actually, you know, pulling it off. It just so happens that it's an unbelievable, extraordinary thing that he's attempting to do. And, you know, I was fortunate when I received this video, the link that you that I got took me right to the video and I watched the entire video and then opened up into a broader browser and immediately saw that it was a string that included his statistics of how well he did. So I didn't know. I honestly, when I started watching it, didn't know that he was going to make the whole in one.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Right. It became apparent over the course of it that he was going to. But like the proximity to the whole stuff is effing incredible. I mean, these these pros are good at golf. golf. Like, you know, it's, it's, it's the understatement of the year. It's incredible how close he got an enormous number of times. And, you know, it only took him 230. He didn't need 500 balls. Right. Like it's, you know, the, the, the, the odds of a regular person or something in the 20 to 30,000, you know, one in 25 to 30,000. He was a one in 230 to 30. And, you know, when, when he, he made it,
Starting point is 00:53:15 the elation that he experienced, the exhilarating celebration, was just like every one of us would feel having made a hole in one. You want to sprint the entire length of the hole up to the cup and immediately grab the stick out and get that ball and kiss it and put it in a cherished place. And it couldn't have been more exciting. And he really let us live that with him. Yeah, I don't think we can overstate just how amazing that celebration
Starting point is 00:53:45 was, he ran down to that whole like a madman, like arms flailing, sprinting down a hill like he was like a five-year-old. It was really, really great to see. And I also want to echo what you said, that he was just so invested, which made the payoff that much greater. Because if you come into this video and you have someone on there who's, you know, sort of trying to make it like in there for the laughs, like, you know, was kind of forced to be there. The product isn't great. But he clearly so badly wanted to hit one of those hole in ones that it was wonderful. Well, and I, you know, his 200 time, his 200 meter time, you know, it was a 171-yard hole, 171 meter hole, pardon me, on the Euro tour.
Starting point is 00:54:29 You know, he looked like he was moving. He might have done Phil Cuando, two, three, and, I mean, three, four, and five. Not, not immediately before because, you know, that would have taken a toll. But he was, he was picking him up and putting him down. I was impressed. booking it. There was one point in the run down the hill where I was a little afraid that if he caught the wrong angle where he planted his foot, that he might take a roll down the hill instead. But overall, just great stuff. That would have added to it. So here's, we're going to make
Starting point is 00:54:58 the request. You began with this. We just have to be pretty close to the point in time when the PGA tour and the European tour start collaborating because we need to see our U.S. guys. There's a lot of personality. That personality is wanting to bust out. And we need our guys in situations that let some genuinely relatable kind of stuff come through. It's why the spring break stuff was such a huge hit with Jordan Speeth and Justin Thomas and Ricky Fowler and Smiley Kaufman, RIP. I mean, you know, seeing those guys, you know, drunk and jumping off of balconies, and, you know, riding the golf carts the way,
Starting point is 00:55:46 there is a place for a relatable, relatability that makes the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, this is going to sound like a backhanded compliment. Uh, and maybe it is. It's the single. best thing that the European tour does. There's just, it's just an unparalleled achievement.
Starting point is 00:56:20 And, and I, I want them to keep it up in the same way. Really, Phil is our only hope. Phil Mickelson is our only hope to compete with, with, what the Euro Tour has going on when it comes to the, to the video game. I hope, I hope Phil takes a page out of his Rider Cup playbook and kind of groups everyone together and sits them down and says, hey, look, we got to get better at this social media thing. We have to collectively kind of stand up to the European tour and say, hey, we can do this too. We have fun players too.
Starting point is 00:56:52 Hopefully he can lead that charge. Yeah, exactly. Okay, I think that's it. Yeah. Good times. A lot of golf social. You know, hopefully the videos keep coming fast and furious like this, right, Chusty? I certainly hope so.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Okay. We'll be back. I'm going to see you next week. I will be in Los Angeles, California. We'll sit at a table between now and then. We can only hope there are a handful of glorious videos as good as this week. And we'll chop it up. Yeah, I can't wait.
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Starting point is 01:00:16 Golf and Country Club Importer at Snowman of Gus's Fried Chicken. Chris Vernon. Welcome. House, I will tell you that you saved me. It was a week ago that we gave our picks for that ridiculous tournament in New Orleans.
Starting point is 01:00:36 I went with the Patrick's and they did absolutely nothing. Can't lay and read. Yeah, can't lay. You know what? I'm just going to, I'm going to let, I'm going to let houses. You know what? I think they might win this thing, but I'll at least do a little safety here and do
Starting point is 01:00:52 top five. And sure enough, it cash is, there you are with Kevin Kisner. You convinced me when he told me that, you know, he loves to crack beers and those guys are big buddies. And there they were with the top five finish. So kudos to you. They keep on keeping on doing it. The biggest surprise of me, we had them at 33 to 1.
Starting point is 01:01:13 and if you play them in that top five, that's pretty good odds you get. You don't get all 33 to 1, but still, you know, did you get something in the, in the, you know, 10 to 1, 12 to 1 range, maybe? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:27 I think that's about what it was. Yeah, I don't have to go back and look. I mean, I don't know. It's in the middle of a bunch of losses, so I got to find. The one shining light. Well, speaking of losses, Let's go ahead and jump right on into this week in Tiger Woods.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Tiger, Tiger, Tiger, Tiger, Wood. So I'm not going to call it a loss that he's not playing at the Wells Fargo Championship at Quell Hollow down there in Charlotte, North Carolina, because I think it's probably for the best. If he has made the reasoned decision and used his business judgment, that the right thing to do for him after winning the Masters, to prepare properly for this event up in New York, the PGA championship two weeks away,
Starting point is 01:02:23 is to just get himself resorted out and focus on his health and the rest of it. Who am I to quibble, Verno? It is a shame, simply because there's so much talk about how guys that can be successful at Augusta can be successful here. That being said,
Starting point is 01:02:43 we have to trust the process house. Oh, I love it. The whole, he told us the entire time everything is planned to lead up to the majors it worked out for the first one who were we to tell him
Starting point is 01:02:58 when he should be playing and when he shouldn't I look and and you know we expressed some concern out loud about the fact that he hadn't been pushing to pedal too hard we hadn't seen him actually you know competing in the run up to the Masters
Starting point is 01:03:14 he wasn't you know ever threatening to win any of those events but we sort of took a step back and said, well, maybe it's deliberate. He just needs to get the rounds. He's competing. And, you know, for the over the course of the year, we were identifying positive trends. You know, he was getting rid of some of the three putts and his ball striking was good. And he was hitting the ball in the fairway.
Starting point is 01:03:37 And he was placing, you know, each successive week, you know, a little bit higher up the leaderboard, but not threatening to win. And we just said, well, I don't know. Maybe this is all part of the plan. maybe trust the process. Now look, I do have a trust the process question for you. And it's this. Did you see the video of him limping into that celebration with the golf TV people last week? I did not. Oh, yeah, I knew you were busy over the weekend. Yeah. So he gets out of a car. This is sort of like a day in the life thing. There is a video snippet that golf TV posted. That's his new partner that he's doing all of this. content abroad with his new television partner and or internet partner digital partner whatever
Starting point is 01:04:24 you call TV these days I'm so old I don't know what to call it um but he they have a little celebration for him and they have a cake and stuff and they show him getting out of the car and he's walking in and he's got a noticeable limp like and I to me it looks like he's both limping with both legs uh like he just came from from a heavy leg press day uh But the internet was worried. There was a lot of concern out there amongst the Gulf Twitterati about the state of one Eldrick Tiger Woods. And, you know, the news had emerged at the beginning of that week that he wasn't playing
Starting point is 01:05:01 the Wells Fargo. And then at the end of the week, we see him walking with a limp headed into his cake party. I'm not concerned. I think he was just... You get a little bit older. It could be a pimplimp limp, you know, could be doing the Dolomite act. Maybe... He's got that swag, that master's swag.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Maybe it's repercussions from that bozo flying into him at the master. I hope not. Oh, God. Yeah, right. The lingering effects of the security gentleman that almost took him out. Gave him the ankle slide. I would say this. Listen, you and I are around the same age, not too far off from Tiger.
Starting point is 01:05:43 and if I do anything the least bit physical, the next day I'm like walking gingerly. I mean, how about this at my advanced age? I'm sore after playing golf. I mean, every time I play golf, I get on the roller. I'm rolling it out. I have this tool that I use. I think it's called a tiger bar where you rub the muscle.
Starting point is 01:06:09 You know, it's got to be, it spins on the. And then I got the ibuprofen. I got the Aleve. I mean, of course. I'm a concerned. He's got four back surgeries and four knee surgery. He can do it. He can walk out every once for a walk.
Starting point is 01:06:24 What do you expect? Yeah, that's right. You think this guy's going to be, you know, walking around like he's Usain Bolt? I mean, yeah. Four back surgeries. I'm sure everything hurts every day. It's a good point. It's a good point.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Everything except for his bank account. Yes. So this week's event, we don't have Tiger at down a quail hollow, but we still have a very, very impressive field. And this event is sort of, you know, the tour has to figure out what it's going to do with some events because some events are getting kind of compressed by this new schedule where we've got, you know, this in succession, five straight events plus the WGCs. of, you know, super high quality, super competitive golfs, these, you know, not quite platinum
Starting point is 01:07:22 events, but, you know, these gold events, you know, Quill Hollow is perfectly positioned. But next week, the Byron Nelson, I don't know what kind of field we're going to have for that. And I'm bummed out a little bit because I love that golf course at Trinity Forest there in Texas. the brand new core Crenshaw that they opened up and had a tournament at for the first time last year. But this Quail Hollow thing really is, I believe, a terrific test for, and a terrific preparation for what's coming up at Beth Page. It has nine of the 11 par fours at this golf course, Verno, are 450 yards or longer. So this is one where you better have driver and driver better go far. And, you know, you better be at some yardages hitting into these greens where you have a chance to, you know, get yourself on the green.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Because if not, you just don't have a chance. Yeah. And one of the things that we, you know, it used to be that people thought it was a second shot place. and now, and there's so many of these guys that are bombing the ball off the T, so many of the good ones that even when I was trying to weed out, you know, when you're trying to figure out like, I don't know if he hits it far.
Starting point is 01:08:43 They all hit it so damn far now. That now it's just, okay, who do you think's going to play really well this week? But you're right. Those four 50s, I mean, that's the difference, right? You know, it's a big difference. Everybody out there knows. It's a big difference.
Starting point is 01:09:01 If you got 180 in and you got 150 in, you put a pro out there with 150 to go, they can knock it within 10 feet, you know, over and over again from 180, even for them, to a different deal. And so, but now it's hard to find these guys that can't get it, you know, damn near 300 yards or more out of the fair way. So you probably have a lot of guys getting their 150 club out. Yeah, but I still think there is an advantage. to the guys that that can hit it.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Now, there isn't a ton of rough, so it's not like being off the fairway. They cut down a bunch of trees, and they didn't really grow the rough up too crazy when they prepared this thing for the PGA championship. But it's still an event where, you know, to win it, you're going to shoot between like nine under and say like 12, 13 under.
Starting point is 01:09:56 It's not one where guys are going to go out there and shoot, you know, a whole string of 66s. And, you know, the thing that we've observed, Jason Day won it last year. He averaged 325.7 yards off the T, 326 yards off the T. And the litany of winners at this joint, J.B. Holmes, Rory a couple times, Ricky, who's not short by any means. I mean, it's a pretty impressive list of long ball guys. So, you know, that's kind of, that's definitely affecting my feel and flavor for this.
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Starting point is 01:11:14 And the most worldwide tour wins of any driver brand in 2019, a very impressive roster of wins on tour with this epic flash. All right, what do you got for me? what kind of names are jumping off the page at you? Okay, so I'll take you through a few. The first, second, he's been fourth, he's been eight, he's been ten, he's missed a cut, but if he wins the thing, I certainly wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, we don't play him.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Webb Simpson, I considered hometown advantage, and he's made 10 of 11 cuts. He has not played all that well at this, but it is hometown advantage, and he has been playing well recently, including 65 at the third round of that heritage. So I kind of looked at him, but what I am landing on,
Starting point is 01:12:16 how you may or may not know, the Honda Classic earlier this year, there at the end, there was a man named Keith Mitchell that was able to hold them off. Wow. He's had a very good year. He has had a very good year on tour
Starting point is 01:12:40 thus far this year. But you may not have seen him in New Orleans. Because he wasn't in New Orleans. Where was he? Where was he? He was hanging out with me. What? He was hanging out with me in Memphis in promotion of the WGC event that is going to be coming,
Starting point is 01:12:58 the FedEx St. Jude Tournament that has been around forever, is a WGC event now. And Keith Mitchell was in town doing all manner of Memphis things, including stopping by. And 27 years old went to the University of Georgia. unbelievably, when I met him and started talking about all manner of things, what I did not realize. So we're 125 guys on tour. Three of them were together on a high school team at Chattanooga Baylor, which is the private high school in Chattanooga. But anyway, I loved Keith Mitchell. Keith Mitchell, who plays damn near every single week, took one week off, and in that week was with me.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Therefore, Keith Mitchell now turns out. around. And hey, and you need a bomber anyway. He bombs it off the T. The odds are long. And so we are going with Keith Mitchell, who is the first time I ever met him. I love the guy. Great guy. And I think any
Starting point is 01:13:58 golf fan would warm up to this guy. So I'm rocking with Keith Mitchell. And I do think it's good for him. I think it's a good course for him. And the other one was, I saw, I think now you tell me, because I'm sure you've got the odds right of front of you, I
Starting point is 01:14:16 so Fino it was over 20-something, right? Over 20-something to one? Yeah, I'm messing with that too. Yeah, you're talking my talk now because I had two guys. Fienau was one of them. You just put me on Keith Mitchell. I love that story of him this season. I was so impressed by that victory at the Honda. He knew exactly what was at stake and it was big boy Ricky Fowler and big boy Brooks Kepka waiting for him to not make that 22-foot. so they could all go be in a playoff. And we've seen this story a hundred times on the PGA tour where some guy who doesn't have a bunch of wins on his resume, but he's looking for his first win, plays great all the way up until the last couple of holes and then has a chance to go grab the tournament by the testicles and then just isn't able to do it and gets into a playoff. And it's the vet that ends up pulling through.
Starting point is 01:15:13 We have two guys this year who are presented with. with that. The gentleman, I believe his name is Adam Long, who won the Desert Classic out in Palm Springs. He was up against Phil Mickelson and Adam Hadwin on the 18th hole. He birdied that hole. The other two guys did not. He won the tournament. And Keith Mitchell at the Honda, which is at PGA National, one of the hardest tracks they play on tour, which also bodes very well for his fortunes here at Quail Hollow. Quill Hollow always in the top five of most difficult tracks that the guys play over the course of the year and a number of the holes of Quill Hollow ranking the top 10 as most difficult holes that they play all season long.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Keith Mitchell available at 90 to 1. I'm going to get a taste of that, but I'm glad that you go. Let's go. I love the two guys that I had in mind just because of this metric that we're driving distance and strokes gained off the T are. are two crucial advanced metrics that the guys who have won here have excelled in. And you have to be a long hitter and you have to be ahead of the field in terms of getting on the green. I like Tony Fee now quite a bit.
Starting point is 01:16:35 He's available 22 to 1. The form that we just saw out of him at the Masters was impeccable. and him faltering down the stretch was not anything that I would hold as a black mark against him. He just feels very due. He played great. He was the co-leader in par five scoring at the Masters. So you know all that length comes into play. He's able to put it to good use.
Starting point is 01:17:02 He's four for four in made cuts at this event. He had two top 25s. I love Fee now at 22 to 1. The other guy I'm looking at, And this could be because he put up another unbelievable video just this, just this week. Did you see Phil Mickelson and his new calves video? Oh, you, you are persuaded by the killer calves. Well, he's hitting bombs, Verno.
Starting point is 01:17:30 All he likes to do is hit bombs. And then those calves are helping him hit bombs. He has an incredible record. The only time he's missed the cut at at Quill Hollow was at the 2017. PGA Championship. So, you know, that, to me, that's a different kind of event. You know, it's a major. Who knows what was going on in his life at that moment.
Starting point is 01:17:54 He's second in all time earnings at this event. And he's got eight top fives at this event. And, you know, I just think, you know, for the value of Phil at 28 to 1 at this very, very moment. And what he's going to be trying to do in terms of getting himself, in shape. Now, I like the, the, the, the, the, the, the idea of guys who need to be able to hit the ball far and, and straight as a preparation for Bethpage Black because that course is a bear and that golf course, you cannot be in the rough on that golf course. You have to be a straight
Starting point is 01:18:29 driver of the golf course. You were talking about, you were talking about these videos and stuff, and obviously his master's video. I mean, I was laughing out loud. He was hysterical. And I, I cannot I guess he's in a different spot in his life and whatever, and he's obviously a gazillionaire now. But, like, everybody's always kind of known he can be goofy and he can be funny. You know, it was known as that, a guy that likes the best with people and whatever else. But I was thinking, like, God, you know how much more popular he would have been, let's say a decade ago?
Starting point is 01:19:04 I mean, he was already, you know, if you ask, like, the average person, Like, I'm talking with somebody that doesn't care about golf. They, the recognizable ones to them, like, they have were beyond just golf famous to famous, famous, right? Absolutely. But, I mean, if he would have showed all this personality, like, he's legitimately funny in these. And if he would have showed all this personality, right, at the peak of his powers, oh, my goodness, how popular. I mean, he was already crazy popular. But the dude, like, I mean, I, I watch.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Watch it, and I'm like, man, this guy could have been like hosting Saturday Night Live, like, for real, you know? Maybe that's coming up. I'm not sure 10 years ago that he would have had the same kind of self-awareness. Like, I think he's matured into this, into the role that he's currently playing. And he seems so acutely in tune with this stage of life and how he's going to hold himself out to the rest of the world. we've been talking on golf social with Megan Schuster, my girl Shusty, he's no fucks Phil. He just gives zero fucks. It's a wonderful moment in his career.
Starting point is 01:20:18 And, you know, how about this? He validated his, you know, the sort of liberating effect of his attitude by going out to Pebble Beach and winning, you know, earlier in the season. And, you know, he was around the hoop for a little bit there at the Masters. He wasn't able to move off of six under. but he put a little charge out there going on the first few holes on Sunday. I thought maybe Phil was going to be on the leaderboard there for a bit. But, you know, he's still playing outstanding golf. And you just pair that up with how, you know, he's just so full of himself.
Starting point is 01:20:55 Yeah, no, he just didn't show this. He did not show, you know. I know. Maybe it does take no level of time to have that self-awareness. He's legit funny. Like, that master's video where he's pulling up and he makes the dig on Cochre he's talking about just hitting
Starting point is 01:21:11 bombs. He's doing the same thing. He's got the recipe for bombs with this Phil Kwan, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, building three, four, and five. So I, I, I, I, I got to give him up, uh, as a
Starting point is 01:21:27 pick this week at 28 to 1. He, he, he, I don't know whether he's going to win. At some point, uh, you know, his, his record here feels like he's got to win. And who knows this. You can't, you can't, you can't just, flatly dismiss them. Now, it's warm enough down there in Memphis for you to start playing some golf. Am I right? Oh, indeed. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:21:49 Finally, it's been rainy in the south throughout the last couple of months. So finally, the rain is cooled out a little bit. And my brother, will I be getting out there a step? Yeah. So we've been talking on the show. I told you, we needed to get you hooked up with some new Callaway equipment to get your game in order. And we got you. You went online there and you said, well, I mean, let me see what catches my eye. And the next thing you know, the Calloway Apex 19 irons, the number one irons in golf. And of course, you selected them in the murdered out beautiful smoke flavor that they have available. And the story you put up last night on your Instagram was an incredible homage to these beautiful.
Starting point is 01:22:35 weapons. Oh, well, shout out to Calloway and you. There was at my door and I, last night, they were at my door and I went in, I opened them up and I'm not telling you that, like, listen, obviously brought to you by Calloway, but I defy anyone to objectively look at these clubs and not say they are the most beautiful golf clubs, David. It's like, I don't even know how to describe like black. It's almost like the club heads are like black pearls. Like they shine like crazy and they've got this
Starting point is 01:23:11 intention in the bag. They are honestly the prettiest golf clubs I've ever seen in my life. I could not, I mean, listen, I've had all manner of golf clubs and the ones I am replacing that I've been playing for the last two and a half, three years
Starting point is 01:23:27 are Calloway Steelheads. Sure. They've got the black, they've got the black head on them, which had prior to, and I like those clubs a lot, but, I mean, you want to talk about getting thrown in the backside of the garage. These things? I mean, this is seriously, it's like I had, you know, I don't know, like, I guess when I was in, when I was in college and then post-college, I had this old, like, it was like a silver
Starting point is 01:23:54 Honda Civic, like this used Silver Honda Civic that I had for a long time. I remember when I signed my first straight-in and I bought a new car. And then you look back at the Honda CIVY, you're like, damn, man. Like, that's a different thing. That's a different deal. My steelheads were getting the civic. No, no, the steelheads were getting the civic treatment last night.
Starting point is 01:24:20 I was like, you guys, like, listen, good run? Not all that actually, if I'm, and then I had the conversation with the old club. Good run. I mean, not really good run, but it's good. mean, you had some good shots. It's not like I hit a hole in one with you or anything. Yeah. But like, look at these things.
Starting point is 01:24:44 They are gorgeous. Absolutely gorgeous. And I got, and I got the wind grips on them because I got, I'm, I got the sweaty hands. I saw that. I love those. Dry packs. The dry tech grips, I love those things. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Yes. Well, and then, and the color profile, you, you put together a color palette. That's just very attractive. These things look so good. I feel bad that you're going to go out and smack them around in the dirt and the mud and be getting divvits on them and everything. But I know you'll take good care. When I pull up, when I pull up with these, my opponents, they're going to be urinating all over themselves. Oh, dear.
Starting point is 01:25:24 Oh, no. The match is over, house. The match is over. The second I pull that thing out there, I say, what are those? Well, you know, I'm itching to get down there. and you and I are going to, you know, hopefully be able to work out a little visit during the WGC that's being hosted down there in Memphis. And I insist that we go, I need to see those things in action in your hands, my friend. Oh, I cannot wait.
Starting point is 01:25:49 They will be in action either late this afternoon or early tomorrow. All right. All right. I love it. Okay. Bruno, we're back together again next week. We'll talk about how we did. Hopefully we gave out a couple of winners to everybody.
Starting point is 01:26:04 I'll talk to you next week, buddy. My man. Thanks, house. Always. There we go, my par saving pals. We are in the thick of our preparation for the PGA championship. Just two short weeks away. Next week, we're going to review how we did at Quail Hollow at the Wells Fargo. We're going to do a little preview of the field at the Byron Nelson.
Starting point is 01:26:26 I love that Trinity Forest Golf Course. We have a great guest coming up. I'm not at liberty to disclose just yet. We're really honing fine-tuning. our thoughts on the PGA Championship. Until that, my friends, let's all hit them straight out there. All right, my eagle enthusiasts. I'm going to end with another word from the good people,
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