Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - 104: My Old Lady with Sarah Chalke

Episode Date: April 16, 2020

In episode 104, Turk, JD, and Elliot try to save their dying patient. Hospital statistics predict at least one will die. In the real world, Zach and Donald are joined by Sarah Chalke, as she shares her early experience with the show, watching her baby sister grow into a real doctor, and explains her harrowing trips to the grocery store. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The fans are tuning in. This is really amazing, dude. We certainly weren't expecting it to be. We just did press to Australia. We certainly weren't expecting this kind of reaction. Not at all. And I did some press for Emergence today, and they wanted to talk about the podcast.

Yes. And it was overseas, though. It was like in the UK and stuff. I guess we're playing in the UK. Is this true? All over the globe. You can listen to this in Stade. You can listen.

Can you really listen to it in Stade? Yes. If you have a computer, you can listen to us. Right. As long as you have iHeart, wherever you get your podcasts, you can hear us. I'm very amped up. Our plug is iHeart. So big shout out to iHeart.

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So am I. I'm very excited about who we have on the show today. But first, we should sing, Donald. Let's get into it. Five, six, seven, eight. Here's some stories about a show we made About a bunch of docs and nurses And a janitor who loved to hate

I said he's got stories That we all should know So gather round to hear our Gather round to hear our Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald All right. Now, you might know her as America's favorite Canadian. You might know her as Second Becky.

You might know her as the beautiful blonde that starred on the show Scrubs for many years. Go ahead, Donald. You do the intro. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, cats, dogs, whatever you may be, please welcome to the show the one and only Sarah Chalk. Sarah Chalk. Hi. Hi.

Sarah, don't worry. We'll add thunderous applause. It'll sound like you walked into a stadium. Yeah, Dan, can you add thunderous applause later? Thank you. All right, here's Sarah Chalk. Hi, Sarah. I didn't know whether to talk.

I didn't hear the thunder supply, so I thought maybe I was just getting a glitch in these fancy headphones. Can I see you guys? Like right now I'm staring at the GarageBand screen. Can I make it small so I can see you guys? All you got to do is click back on Zoom. So, Dan, can I hit the yellow button and make GarageBand small? I'm just going to put it out there.

You ruined our introduction. No, no, no. No, guys, you can edit this out. No, no ruined our introduction i don't want to edit it out dan listen no listen now that sarah's ruined the magic i want the fans to know that we've been on we've been on zoom for a half hour while sarah was getting technical support from our editor sarah literally had a sarah had a fucking technical intervention with our editor. She was like, how do you start your laptop? And yet I've still felt, I've never felt more proud.

How are you? Than I do in this moment because I, okay, I just want to successfully, Jean-Michel is going to edit this out. Just give me one second. I'm going to hit the yellow button in the corner, Dan, and minimize garage band so I can see Zach and Donald.

All right, go for it. Just do it. Go for it. You don't even have to ask. I'm worried that Sarah is going to call Dan for other technical help in her life. She's going to be like, hey, Dan, I can't get Wi-Fi signal. I have Dan's email.

That weird throaty cough and laughing you just heard is a Sarah Chalk special. How are you, Sarah? I'm good, guys. I miss you. I miss you. And now seeing you on this Zoom is making me miss you more. Nostalgic. Where are you quarantining in Canada, I imagine?

So I'm quarantining in Canada. My sister and I have decided to quarantine our families together. So we have communally six children, three dogs, and a cat. Wow. Wow. How are you doing school? How's school going school's interesting school is um basically we have children between the ages of 3 and 16 so we'd only have so many

screens and so much bandwidth to attend different online classes so we've been kind of doing some of that and then some group classes i uh my sister is a lawyer so she's teaching law so like really like things like you know um lessons on the rights of the child the united nations convention on the rights of the child next week's the constitution and i do equally important things like give them cartoon sides and they audition for cartoons that's amazing maybe you could first you could give them a scene from rick and morty and you guys could all play parts. We have actually, we've done some cartoons. We haven't reached Rick and Morty yet because that's not appropriate for the four-year-old. Right.

And as it's sort of, you know, tight quarters, we haven't gotten there yet. But yeah, it's pretty nuts. I mean, we're all quarantined together. I'm the designated grocery shopper probably because of all my OCD tendencies. So I feel like that's the most harrowing experience in my life right now, which is, you know, I go to the grocery store. I have my own, you know, version of PPE,

which is like rating the Drama 8 props bin. So I have like a toque and sunglasses. And I, you know, just put my hoodie up and gloves on a toque for you non-canadians is a hat it's a hat yes i'm about to say i'm gonna say what the fuck is a toque sarah sarah if you wouldn't mind translating your canadianisms as we go through the podcast today there are some non-canadians listening. Yes, the main ones really are toot, garburator, parkade, and seawall. What's a garburator? What's a garburator? Oh, the garbage disposal. The garbage disposal. Got it.

Which happened to be the first thing that broke when I came to Los Angeles and the landlord did not understand me. And you were like, my garburator? Is a parkade a parking structure? Jack, you're Canadian. It's doing very well. You've been studying. I'm just guessing. I'm playing a game called Guess the Canadian Expression. Are there any other ones we should know about?

So tube, carburetor, parkade, seawall. What's a seawall? The obvious? A seawall? A boardwalk. Oh, okay. Oh, a boardwalk, nice. And then you have that thing with the gravy and fries.

What's that called? La poutine. Yeah, la poutine. Okay. Poutine. I know about poutine. That's French, isn't it? Yeah, it's the gravy and the cheese curds on top of the fries.

It's just gravy and cheese on fries, but they take great pride in it in Canada. How's your guys' quarantine going? Oh, it's amazing. Is that sarcasm, Donald? How much time do you spend in that closet, Donald? I'm going to be honest with you. Donald hides out in that closet, Sarah, every day. Donald tells his family that he's recording

the podcast. Donald's family thinks he records the podcast every day and he's in the closet, but meanwhile, we do it twice a week. Yeah, my wife keeps asking, like, yo, when is the next episode coming out? Do you record so many of them? You're banking him. It's coming soon.

KZ thinks that Donald records, like, four podcasts a day in there. Well, I definitely do a lot of press. I'll be like, oh, I'm doing so much press right now. You should set up your PlayStation in there, Donald. I just don't know how I get the TV in here. That's the problem. Dan knows.

Dan knows. Dan knows. He knows. Dan could hook it up. Dan will do it. Dan, really quickly. It says Zoom would like to record this computer screen. Grant access to this application in security and privacy preferences. No.

Deny. No, no, no, no, no. You don't want to record this. Sarah, Dan is ours. Sarah. He's not there for your technical needs. Okay. So let's get into it. Let's not there for your technical needs. Okay. So let's get into it.

Wait, before we get into the episode, Sarah, Donald and I have done this a few episodes now and now that we have you, we wanted to ask you tell us about your casting process because as I remember, you were coming off of Roseanne. You were doing that

particularly unique thing where you had replaced the Becky. That was years before, wasn't it? Yeah, I was like 17, 18, 19, 20 when that happened. So four years before. And by the way, I was thinking as I was preparing for this, because Sarah, I do a lot of research. I get really into this now.

By the way, I found for you Scrubs fans out there and for us, I found a website called Scrubs Wiki, W-I-K-I, where it has like everything you ever want to know about Scrubs. Like I'm like literally whoever made that. Well, it doesn't have everything. It doesn't have us. No, it doesn't have us. But it has a lot of it has a lot of insightful information.

And I feel like I feel like they should not go to Wiki, Scrubs Wiki. Yeah, but it has like it literally has like these are the fantasies in the episode. These are the girls named JD was called. These are it's like like all broken down. Someone put a lot of work into it. Donald, give him a shout out. Shout out to you for putting all that work in, but we got it from here. Oh, my God.

Donald's jealous. All right, listen. Donald, you guys, before I was thinking about Sarah and I was thinking, is there another example other than Roseanne where they just replaced the actress and had them play the same character and I was thinking about fresh bewitched bewitched and did was he still was he just a different Darren yeah I think they just flipped him out flipped him out tell just briefly about that because I find it's a very unique thing and you've told me and Donald and I just if you could just talk about what that was like really quickly because i think it's so interesting yeah i mean i was 16 when i auditioned and uh it was glenn quinn the guy who played

my husband mark the audition was with him and he just made out with seven girls concept we were all dressed exactly the same and matching pink shirts and the whole scene was this like makeout scene where he's like baby baby come here and i'm like get a job at the gas station get a job at the gas station he's like baby baby come here and come here. And I'm like, get a job at the gas station. Get a job at the gas station. He's like, baby, baby, come here. And it was literally like every other actress that was auditioning was like 22, living in Los Angeles. I flew in. They flew me in for the night to go and read. And I just remember I was 16.

He was 24 and just thinking, he is so handsome. How am I going to remember one line? And they said, we'll let you know in in a couple days and then they called back and they're like okay come back tomorrow and read with Roseanne then I did and then Tom Arnold called me at home a few days later and he was trying to feel out whether I was going to leave the show to go to college because I was younger than and still you know at an age where I would do that and Sarah Gilbert at the time had left to go to Gale, and she was flying back to do episodes.

And Lisey had left to go to Vassar. And so I knew right away that that's what he was asking. I could tell that's what he was getting at. So I was like, no, coach. But he was probably not allowed to do that, right? So he was sort of tiptoeing around. Right, like Roseanne was like, I can't call. Baby, why don't you call? Why don't you call?

That's pretty much what happened. Probably, yes. So then I said uh i was like no no college gross absolutely not and i knew i would go to college but it was a the rosanna was a big opportunity for me and i knew that i wouldn't you knew you weren't gonna lose the job over it so you're like college college vomit and i i just did it on the side and so uh so i got the job but the craziest part of the story that i actually hadn't remembered and we were talking about recently was they called me and told me I had the job. And I went to a party that night.

So I'm going to this little high school in Canada. And I get this phone call that I was going to replace Becky. And I told a couple people. And it spread around our high school pretty fast. It sounded like a lie. I mean, I'm going to replace Becky on the Roseanne show. The Roseanne show was the number one show at the time. It sounded fake. And then I get a call the

following week and it was the Roseanne show saying, we're getting cold feet about recasting Becky. So we don't know if we're going to do it. So we're going to hold you for four months. We're going to give you 10 grand to hold you. So first of all, I'd never heard of money like $10,000. And I thought to do nothing, like just to sit here for four months while you make a decision and then the other half of me thought like my ass is grass at high school like they're gonna tell me in four months if we're actually gonna do this so i had to kind of wait you should have brought that money sarah you should have brought that money to school and just like fanned it out they got me on hold i wasn'all. I wasn't lying. They got me on hold. For those of you who don't know, this is called a holding deal. This is a holding fee.

They holding me. Excuse me while I fan my face with my holding deal. Totally. And then I know by the time you convert it to Canadian dollars, it was obviously a whole different situation. So, yes, it was obviously a whole different situation so so yes it was a crazy it was a crazy experience I was a baby and I had no idea what I was doing and just watch like Roseanne and Laurie Metcalf and Sandra Bernhardt and Sarah Gilbert and John Goodman and Johnny Galecki and this like ridiculous list of comedians and um was kind of in awe and a little bit terrified.

And then after two seasons, they gave everybody hugs by like, I'll see you guys after hiatus, which is the break that you take between seasons for anyone listening to that weird term. And then I get a phone call saying, Lisey's coming back to play Becky. And apparently I said, I want to talk to Roseanne for closure. I don't remember doing that, but apparently that's what I said. And so I did. And then, and then they called me like six episodes into the following season and said,

come back this week. Darlene's getting married in an episode. And can you come down and be Becky? And I was like, it went and they said tomorrow. So Lisi had just, Lisi had just changed her mind and she left. They, they didn't tell me. They just said, can you come back tomorrow? And I was like, when? And they said tomorrow. So Lisey had just changed her mind and she left? They didn't tell me.

They just said, can you come back tomorrow? And I said, well, I'm going to college up here now. And I'm doing this movie of the week where John Ritter, interestingly enough, who played, obviously, your dad on Scrubs. I was doing a TV movie with him up here. And I said, so I can come on Friday I can come on Friday night for tape night. So it was the craziest day.

I remember I wrote an oceanography exam at like six 30 in the morning, went straight into the scene with this pregnancy belly. I just remember ripping the pregnancy belly off on the way to the airport and got to LA and they had a car waiting for me with hair and makeup in the car. I did my hair and makeup on the way to the live taping and the taping had already started. And I hadn't seen anyone since I'd been fired and they uh they were like hold these flowers say this stand here do this it got to you know the point where roseanne would take questions from the

audience and somebody said why do you keep switching becky's back and forth and she was like well it's going to be chalky from now on and that's how i found out i had the job back for the last year and a half of the show wow that. That's insane. Wow, that is crazy. I really think, Sarah, that is a story that I never heard of another actor having. That is just, if you're, I mean, when do you ever see or hear something like that happening to an actor? That's just insane. Well, as we all know, Sarah has the craziest luck in the history of, like, just everything

happens to Sarah. Sarah, we touched on that a bit in an earlier episode, how you would come in on Monday morning and you would have a story that was like nothing else we'd ever heard. And it happened every week. Honestly, I still feel like sometimes I need to call you guys. Cause I'm like, you, you would not believe what just happened to me lately. It's mostly at the grocery store. I mostly want to call you after i

leave the grocery store and be like take a deep breath and be like okay so i get there the produce box bottoms out and all the produce drops in the main aisle where everybody's standing the woman behind me coughs the woman in front of me i mean that is every day we just couldn't believe that every monday morning you would be like you are not gonna believe what happened to me this weekend and then and then we'd be like yeah right and then it to believe what happened to me this weekend. And then we'd be like, yeah, right. And then she would go into a story that was like, that's the most insane thing I've ever heard.

That's just this weekend. Right. And also, it would be so crazy. I'd be like, there's no way she can make this shit up. There's no way she can make this stuff up. I mean, it is incredible how similar I am with Elliot. Okay, well, let's talk about the audition process. Yeah, that's a good segue into talk about getting scrubs now because what was the auditioning process?

When I read finally came around to getting callbacks, I was reading with you. So were you the first person cast? Donald and I were cast together. My audition process, i had just moved back like after the roseanne show i moved back to canada for four years and then my best friend had finished film school and she wanted to produce and i wanted to act and there's you know there was just at the time not as much filming in canada as does now and i um creatively was like okay i'll

go back and give la another try we had a we got a six-month sublet and we moved down we didn't know anyone and we never had any plans and so this one night we had plans we were going to a show and I get this I had two auditions in my you know for the next day and normally I'm so type a I would have canceled my plans and spent every second that existed between getting the sides until going into the audition working on it and I was like you know what fuck it I'm not canceling you know on Jen we're going to go to the show and I got home and it was midnight and my audition was at 9 a.m and the other audition was at noon my scrubs audition was at 9 a.m and I uh I opened the script

and I started reading it and I sworeore every page. I was like, fuck. Oh, shit. Oh, my God. This is so good. And every page, I was like, oh, shit. This is like the best thing I've ever read. Oh, fuck. I want this job so badly. I want this part so bad.

And so by 1230, I'm sitting there with having read the script and with these sides. And I love the show. I love the writing. I love the part so much. So I thought, OK, I'll skip the other audition. I won't read that one. Whatever that is goes in the garbage. And I read with Debbie and Brett, the cash and directors at nine o'clock on a Friday morning. And they said, okay, can you come back at three to read with Bill? That's a good sign. That's a great sign. One of our, one of Jen's and my very very good friend's husbands was in town for work and he

had come over to visit us and so him and Jen Aaron Brindle and Jen read the read the sides with me and so we just kept like running them and then I went in and auditioned with Bill at three auditions were like 10 days later because they were still casting other people to go to studio and network so then we did studio and then network so there's four auditions and I wore the same thing I did too I remember that about you Sarah because the last two auditions we were there together I remember that and you wore the same jeans with the big ass belt and it had a big belt buckle am I right okay I know the belt you're talking about yeah I went through had a big belt buckle. Am I right? Okay. I know the belt you're talking about. I went through a very big belt buckle collecting phase. So I had this old vintage leather belt and then I would switch out like an, like an old Coca-Cola belt buckle or like, so I did wear

that a lot, but in my memory, I don't know, we could both either. I have no idea which one of us is right. But in my memory, what I wore was I wore black boots with the heel, black pants and a tight black tank top. Because when I first moved to L.A. and I would go on these auditions, I remember I went out for an errand spelling, wearing these like plaid funky bell bottoms that I thought were really cool and this like vintage T-shirt. And I thought that I was like super excited about this outfit. I walked in and there were 10 girls and they were all wearing tight black tank tops and tight black pants. And I thought, okay, so that's how you do it here. Got it. I remember the jeans being blue. I do remember them being,

I thought they were tight as fuck too. I remember being like, damn, those jeans is tight. I was the same way, not with the tight jeans, but the second I started getting callbacks, I was like, I'm not washing this. I want my pheromones. I want my pheromones on it. I'm not jinxing this thing. And I would get like another callback and be like, not changing.

I mean, I was just so, towards the end, I remember I was like doing the same thing I did that morning. I would get up, I would sit in the chair, have a coffee. I would go in the chair, have a coffee. I would go to the treadmill, do 30 minutes. I had a whole regimen. I would listen to the same few songs before I went to the audition.

I had a ritual. Do you remember what they were? Definitely Madonna. One of mine was Change by Blind Melon. Oh, I love it. How is a melon blind? That doesn't make no sense. Donald, it's the name of a very popular band.

You might like their music. Let's circle back to Sarah's audition process. I feel like probably I'm guessing that Babies Got Back was another one of the songs. Oh, wow. That really got you. Do you want to tell them your Baby Got Back story? Yeah. I was very impressed that you knew.

I didn't know that song as well as you knew that song. For grad parent event, we had to do talent for the parents and kids got up and played the violin and the piano and 10 of my girlfriends

and I got up and danced. We had a whole routine. The routine you did is a bit, it was a bit sexual. I think that was kind of odd for the talent show. No, they were seniors though.

I think all of our parents were probably like, I should ask them, I should like, what did you think when your child was up there at grad parent event? It seems like a very odd. How old were you guys?

We were in grade 12, which is Canadian. Yeah. Right. So you're about to graduate. We were in grade 12, which is Canadian for 12th grade. Yep. So any who, I listened to my songs, the whole NBC lot.

And in the quarantine cleanup, I did find my sides from the audition. Your little visitors pass. I saved both of those. But I remember being in the parking lot and just like seat back in the car and lying there. And someone told me to do this. I've never told anyone this, but

to visualize yourself walking into the audition, visualize the whole thing playing out and visualize yourself walking out and it going really well. And so I remember sitting in my car in the NBC parking lot, closing my eyes, visualizing the whole thing. And then Donald and I were in there together with some other Turks and some other Elliotts and some other JDs. And we basically all took turns going in and then they came back out and then you go back in with this person and read together and then they pair you up and you read together and it was um yeah pretty nerve-wracking let me ask you a

question did you know any of the young ladies that were auditioning for your role I knew both of the guys that were auditioning for Turk I knew and I not only did I know them I knew them of the guys that were auditioning for Turk. I knew, and not only did I know them, I knew them well, too. Like, I hung out with one of them, and we used to play a lot of basketball together. And then the other one, we did a bunch of movies together. Or we did a movie together, but I would see him out at the club all the time. Was it Denzel? I wish it was Denzel. I wish I could be like, Denzel, I got it.

Yo, D, I got that shit. Denzel, Denzel, this one's mine. I got it. Yo, D, I got that shit. Denzel. Denzel, this one's mine. I'm sorry. Sorry, buddy. You'll bounce back. Don't worry about it. So was that weird to sit there with kind of buddies?

Yeah, you know, it was very weird. And it's also one of those things where it was like, you know, if one of these guys get it, I'm going to freaking, I'm going to lose my shit. You know what I mean? Like, as much as I love you guys guys and as much as, you know, I root for you guys, I want this so bad. I want this so bad. I can, I could taste it. Both very successful have gone on to do other things. I just really want a Chris Turk bed.

Yeah. Well, you got it. I mean, so when you're sitting in that, for people that are listening, when you're sitting in that position and you've going to studio, you're going to network, you don't have the part yet and you sign a six-year contract. They call it five plus one. And I was like, well, but isn't that six years? That's a contract lingo for don't tell them it's six years. We're going to call it five plus one. Yeah, five plus one.

So you sign five plus one. And I feel like that's always such a feeling of, I mean, you're 24 and you're thinking, wow, until I'm 30. And in any other scenario, that would kind of take your breath away. In this case, I was just like, yes, for the love of God, please, a hundred years of doing this. Like, it was no, there was no two seconds of thinking about it. It was like, I'm desperate. And wow, if it could ever go, I would be grateful for as many years as it would go for. And that feeling of just complete signing that and so hopeful that would happen anyways. Then Bill called me a few hours later that day or it was the next day. It was very soon after the audition. It was either later that day or the next day.

And I couldn't believe it. I think we all probably, after reading that script, kind of felt like it was really something special and had the possibility of i mean obviously you never know but the chance to go for it as you know the writing is so good as you know sarah i did not read the script before we shot the pilot i didn't read the script until the table read and i was like oh that's what happens really dude i didn't know it was a freaking dope pilot until my agent was like, dude, this is like a really big pilot. I had no clue.

I never knew the trivia that you didn't read the script until the table read. I did not know that. Remember the Titans? I didn't know what happened in the script until the table read. I remember we did the... That is so bad, dude. I just knew only my stuff. I was a kid. I was young.

Listen, there would be times when we'd be shooting Scrubs where the whole script wasn't out yet because the writers were behind. So we'd get scenes, but Bill would sort of explain what was going on. And you shoot out of order. So we'd be like Monday morning, time to rehearse, and Donald and I are like standing on a table. And he'd whisper in my ear like, yo, yo, why are we standing on a table? like standing on a table and he whispered my name like yo yo why are we standing on a table he had no idea what was happening in the script all right we're gonna take a quick break we'll be right back with the legendary sarah chalk hi i'm martha stewart and we're back with a new season of my podcast. This season will be even more revealing and more personal with more

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And we're back. And we're back. Sarah, tell us about... Okay, just really quickly, really quickly before I tell you, I need to tell you my favorite example of Donald not having read the scene was during the auditions in the show when you were... It was like, I can't remember what season,

but we're supposed to be auditioning, and Neil and Sam Lloyd are auditioning you. And like, I remember you walked in and you, you know, we're like, Oh yeah,

I think I could, you read the actual script. You're like, I think I can, you know, come up with a dance for that. And you had to come up with a dance and you just came up with on the spot and you're such a fucking good dancer.

You came up with this unbelievable dance to poison. And then like, my kids are all obsessed with the fact that it's the fortnight dance now and they watch the fortnight character do it beside you and they've all tried to learn it we've tried to learn it i can't learn it it's too hard i don't think i could even do it again listen so i just want to say the building off what sarah said that's a perfect example sorry sarah that is the best example donald hadn't read the script and everyone loves that dance people talk about it it's the fortnight dance it's everywhere donald literally showed up and was like you want me to do what now and he had to and he totally

improvised that dance on the spot well there was a lot of years of of you know i was a huge new edition fan a huge bell bib devoe fan i still am a huge uh new edition and bell bibVoe fan. I still am a huge New Edition and Belle Bib DeVoe fan. And Bobby Brown and Ralph Trezvan, all of them. Anyway, I had been dancing like that my whole life, pretty much, since I was like, and since 92, I was doing dances like that. And so when they were like, we want you to dance to Poison, in my mind, I was like, yeah, I know some steps that I could do to that. To everybody else, because I remember I was late that day. Everybody packed the room that day. And I know the pressure was on me, but I was like, this is something that I do all the time.

Now, there are other times where I didn't prepare when we were doing the show, and it cost us like hours of filming. Oh, my God. I remember I was directing once, and Donald had a paragraph of medical jargon, like a really hard, a paragraph you would, anyone would have to practice a lot because it was like fast medical jargon and like five sentences. And I was directing and just Donald could not get it because he hadn't even looked at it. It's not something you could do on the spot. It's not something you could do on the spot. And I remember, you know, when you're directing a scene, you normally start with the widest shots, and then you start moving into closer and closer angles. And I was like, Donald, we got to move on, dude. Don't worry, we'll cut it together.

We cut it together. By the time we got to like an extreme close-up of Donald's face, like eyebrow to chin, he finally got it. And if you watch that episode, like Donald does the whole monologue in a shot that's like this tight. Because that was finally the only time he ever got it. Those days are over by the way. Just anybody who's looking to hire me for anything.

I am not like that anymore. Don't worry. I'm sure no, no casting directors or directors are listening to our podcast. But what Zach was saying about, you know, getting the script sometimes, you know,

as the season would get towards the end and the writers were so taxed trying to crank out these scripts that were so funny. I remember one morning, we got to work on a Monday morning, and it was the week that my character had the voiceover because each of our characters had a voiceover for one time. And they didn't have the script out yet, but we had to start shooting something. And so they said, we're just going to do a long kind of steadicam shot following you through the hallways. And I just want you to change your face around to go with different emotions and things you're going to write. So just, you know, you're walking and you're thinking like a little bit happy and you're a little bit sad. And then you're thinking about something for two hours, just me in his teddy cam.

I'm like. That's funny that they probably had to eventually write to your expressions because they were changing because then they didn't and the camera didn't want to cut away.

So it's like, okay, wait. She's got a second of seriousness and then a smile. So like we need one second sentence and then it's something to smile about. And then looking

a little nostalgic and oof. All right, should we go into this episode? This is one of my favorite episodes. This is one of my favorite episodes of the whole nine years. It really is special. And I want you to know, I haven't seen it in 20 years. And I got goosebumps multiple times watching it. That's how it really does hold up. There's some really great moments in this show.

In particular with you, Sarah. This, you know, I looked at this show, when we first did this show, I was like, oh, wow, we all get a chance to shine here. But this was a moment, I feel like, for you and for Judy as well, where you guys really crushed this episode. Like, it's really fucking good.

Like, you two alone, you and Judy alone,y alone like really i don't know what it is but you guys start off on a you know as adversaries and by the end of it your friends and that's for a half an hour to be able to tell a story like that's very difficult to to to start two people off as enemies especially when the narrative so far in the show has been you guys not getting along. And so, you know, it really is a testament to how good you are as an actress that you guys were able to not only bring the funny, but bring the drama and then also bring the connection so that the story tracks all the way through. And I just wanted to give you props on that straight up, right out, you know, the bat. And also it was so early on in the show too it was episode four and so for us to be able to jump in and tell such a good story is really a testament to how good first of all matt tarsus holy shit what a good writer dude matt tarsus

wrote it and we should also say that this was the first episode not directed by adam bernstein and it was the first episode directed by Mark Buckland, who really added a lot of cool style. You know, we've spoken about how Adam Bernstein really developed the language of how the camera moves and scrubs

and how you could do some trick shots and how there was a lot of creativity. The camera was a character in the show. And Mark Buckland, I think, with this episode,

really took that and ran with it and added a lot of new language to the way the show was shot. Adam Bernstein, it should be said, directed the Babies Got Back video, in case anyone out there does not know that. Yes, that is beautiful trivia there for you Scrubs fans. Sarah can do the full dance and knows all the lyrics to Babies Got Back.

And coincidentally, was it Sir Mix-A-Lot? Yes, it is Sir Mix-A-Lot. The Sir Mix-A-Lot music video was directed by Adam Bernstein. There you go. That's not on your Scrubs wiki. Right. Thank you. Told you, wiki. Wiki, we got it from here. Well, first of all, Donald, thank you for saying all those nice things. I felt the same way about you guys.

I was going like, wow, Donald and Zach fucking nailing this episode. And it's like, we just started. We were a few weeks in. It was that fourth episode, but it was the third one that we'd shot in that chunk separated out from the pilot and like i feel like bill had told us a long time ago that he didn't he say to the network we're gonna set it up one out of every three patients die here and you're kind of waiting the whole episode to find out who it's going to be and then they all die i feel like he said that to the network and they said no you can only have one patient die and he said nope it's going to be all three but we have to do that we're coming out of the gate right now we're going to show the audience that this is what the show is and all those years on scrubs this one for me absolutely is the one that stands out whenever

i think of the show as being the one that really shows the responsibility that's put on these young young young doctors i mean my little sister is in her first year right now of being a real doctor. What a crazy time in the world to be doing that. And I can't believe her stories. I can't believe what level of responsibility that they're given right out of the gate. I mean, I'll be at work on set and I'm on lunch

and I come back from lunch and she's like, she's just been doing CPR on someone for 30 minutes trying to save them. And I'm like, well, I was just in hair and makeup touch-ups and they took the same curl and recurled it again to make it curly. Like it just, it's such a, it takes your breath away really what the decisions young doctors have to make. Do you think your sister was inspired by you? I mean, it's interesting, you know, a lot of younger sisters might be inspired to that their older sister was a

real doctor, but because she grew up with you playing this character, do you, does she think that that inspired her at all? Oh, I tried to get my, I remember I I'd say to my family, like, Hey guys, like, did you see, you know, I was so excited about the show. And I've like, see, you seen, they were like, well, we T voted because it's on the same time as 24 but that Jack Bauer did you see what he did no they I feel like you know she's 13 years younger than me and I would like to think that I had that kind of an influence but really she came out of the womb a doctor I mean she

the stories are crazy I mean yeah, she was just so interested in medicine from such a young age and really so calm under pressure. Like I remember, just responsible. I mean, I remember we went on a road trip and she'd had her license for maybe two weeks. And my dad was like, so she's going to drive, right? And I was like, dad, I've been driving for 13 and a half years. He's like, yeah, yeah.

So she's going to drive, right? Like like she just this is just a much more responsible human but it definitely has been interesting just re-watching a couple like just last night re-watching a couple of the early episodes and thinking them thinking about them just in the context of of her and and this one in particular because um it's pretty it's pretty unbelievable as you know you see jd and elliot and turk and the pressure that is on them and just all of all of it like trying to figure out you know what what calls they can make on their own and when to go for help here's a little bit more scrubs trivia your little sister taught my 18-year-old when he was probably nine to 10 months at this time how to walk. That's right.

And it happened on the third floor of the hospital right in between our dressing rooms. That's so crazy. Crazy. And now she's an adult and she's taking care of patients. Wow. Is she on the front line right now? She is. I think about taking care of patients. Wow. Is she on the front line right now? She is. I think about her mostly every minute.

Wow. We bring pots and pans every night, all of us. And my three-year-old has broken a couple measuring cups because she gets so into it. That's very sweet. You do it as like an honor to the healthcare workers? Yeah. So it's really cool, actually. Everybody goes outside at like seven o'clock and just bangs the pots and pans and screams and cheers. Oh, I like that. I want my neighborhood to do

that. We need a primal scream. Oh, start it. It's so cool. Yeah. Just segueing back to the show, I want to just say that you'll hear us at a minute and 45 seconds. There's this really cool Steadicam shot that really kind of sets up the tone of the show. You'll hear us talk about the word Steadicam a lot on this. And if you don't know what it is, it's a way of mounting the camera on an operator's body so that the operator can move around and the camera just feels like it's floating around. And it's something that was used extensively on the Scrubs set as we traveled on the hallways. But I pointed out as I was talking about Mark Buckland, the director's style, how I like this sort of way he's introducing that this episode is going to be about the three of us,

where the camera starts on me and then it goes to Sarah and it never cuts. And then it goes by the children. Then it comes up to Donald as he comes into the room. And I just thought that was kind of an early example of something that we did, ended up doing a lot of, of sort of moving around the hallways without cutting a lot. Yeah. Also, I don't know if you guys noticed, but the hospital is really dark in this episode. Yeah, that's true. The lights aren't on really.

Everything's, you know, it's very, very dark in this episode. Not only that's true. The lights aren't on, really. Everything's, you know, it's very, very dark in this episode. Not only that, here's another thing. It's jumping ahead, but this is one of the first times where Kelso isn't the bad guy on the show also. What I've noticed is that when we're dealing with something like

that's as powerful or as strong as death, it's us versus the hospital, if you've noticed that. You know what I mean? It's the cast versus death. And in this one, Kelso is a mentor in this one. He gives really good advice in this one to JD. And he's not the obstacle. He's the one that's actually trying to help solve the problems in this. Now,

if you watch other episodes, he's never really like that. You know what I mean? He's always the bad guy. This was the first episode, well, obviously the first episode in a run, but this is the first episode that I can remember where I was like, wow, Kelso was on board with us this whole time.

I like what you pointed out, too, about the lighting, because traditionally in half hour TV comedy, everything's always bright. There's like this unwritten rule that for it to be funny, it's got to be bright. And again, just challenging some of the conventions in this episode, both John Inwood, the cinematographer and Mark Buckland did things like have it be in dark rooms, having some of the dramatic moments like in ICU later happen at night or at sundown, which I thought was, I agree,

that was something I hadn't noticed. This is the first time they did that. Yeah, it carries on throughout the series too. Yeah. At 2.26, we meet Catherine Joosten playing Mrs. Tanner. Now, she is such an, was, she has since passed away,

but was such an extraordinary actress. And I remember she had just done a very high profile run on the West Wing where that character had passed away as well. And I remember thinking, well, is that going to be odd that she's coming on to our, I mean, I'm glad she's coming on because she's a wonderful actress, but having just played someone else who who died i think i just remember that being in my head like she had just done such a hope high profile moment on on west wing um but then the second i started working with her i i i just felt in awe of her of her talent and that was the furthest thing from my mind one of my favorite moments in the episode when she says are you a good doctor and you say it's probably too soon to tell like i just feel like it's such a such an example of how the show walked that line of like you're just on the edge of your seat and you're crying and then you're laughing and there's a few

moments oh there's a couple of moments that i laughed my ass off uh when jd goes to the park to meet up with her yeah and he's like you gotta get your ass back to the hospital to meet up with her. Yeah. And he's like, you got to get your ass back to the hospital. And then he's like, is that s'mores? And then they cut away. And then they cut back and he's still chastising her. But now he's got chocolate all on his lips. JD was not going to pass up a s'mores moment.

Are you kidding me? You think he could have gotten a big cake? JD was not. JD was trying. It was a perfect JD thing to be like really trying to be taken seriously

with s'mores chocolate over all of his lips another one of my favorite laugh out loud moments is when Donald is doing the workout video let me get my sweat on

by the way let me get my sweat on which is foreshadowing the poison dance a little bit because you're dancing in the very same room and a little bit

and some sweet moves that I guarantee were not in uh 80s workout video but when he's like she had such energy and warmth dude the woman league of women voters called and they want to know where to send your membership sarah tell us about i'm a tell us about i'm a chunky monkey from funky town because i remember that and I just was like, who wrote that? That is the most random thing in the world. I guess Matt Tarsus or who knows. But was the idea that you were just testing out, Elliot was just testing out that she could say anything in front of a woman? Yes.

Yes. I think so. Yes. Obviously to Carla's dismay. Obviously to Carla's dismay. There's a lot of trivia in this episode because we introduced characters that from that moment on weren't on the show anymore. I remember Layla Lee. She plays the surgeon in the room with Dr. Wynn and Turk. She was really good.

I had the same reaction. I was like, what happened to her? She was good. Yeah, so I do know the story. good. I had the same reaction. I was like, what happened to her? She was good. Yeah. So I do know the story. I remember we were filming and it was a couple of episodes in and she was going to come back as my nemesis. And she was saying how she had just got this part on a television show that was going to take her out of California or not out of California, but out of the Los Angeles area. And she was going to go do that instead.

And I remember being like like but what about us what about what about what we've got going this is so funny and she was like you know i'm a guest star on this show but on the other show i would be a lead and so she went and took the other job to be honest with you and that's remember what the show was it was tremors oh okay it was a syndicated version of tremors and i remember it ran for a while. And the dad from Family Ties, I think, is on it. I'm not sure. I could be wrong. I just remember watching that scene, which we'll get to later in the episode,

and you guys had such a funny banter, that spoofing of a couple driving together. And then I had the same thought. I go, oh, that young woman was so funny. What happened to her? And I guess she got her own show at the time. Well, yeah, she got a job and went on to do other things to other people of scrubs lore who were introduced in this episode um 759 i very quickly if you watch danny rose yeah he was bill's assistant

then obviously became a producer on the show he walks by in the park and he has tankers on his shoulders yeah and tankers was what a big bulldog that he yeah yeah tankers and i just we have to talk about the legendary mike schwartz who um plays his very first appearance a very first appearance a lot of times we're watching these episodes and i forget that some of these people were introduced so early so mike schwartz was one of the writers on the show very funny a comedy writer and he plays the delivery guy the ups guy if you will that uh is first they establish him giving something to kelso and then later he comes and delivers the ton of bricks to me he is uh he we had so many laughs with that guy huh oh my god he was constantly

doing bits and making us all laugh like you'd walk by him in the hallway and he'd be like what what's that oh it's j crew he would do this he would do this bit that i we i don't know why it was so funny, but he would pretend to call off to someone that wasn't there, and he would do a bit where he was pretending that they were asking him who made his shirt. And so he'd be reaching for the tag. He'd be like, what?

Oh, hold on. Oh, yeah, it's J. Crew. And it was so stupid, but he was talking to no one, and you would laugh every single time. Every time. We're the loneliest guy in the world where you tap him on the shoulder and be like. We ended up putting that in the show.

Right. That's totally true. He went on to be the, was he the drummer for the air band? That same episode that we were talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He liked his character. Later episodes, we learned that his character liked speed metal. Right.

And that his character was a big time drug addict and everything like that and was always high and stuff like that. And he was very lonely. But that bit about, that was his bit

where no one touched him. So if you ever did graze his shoulder, he would sort of cuddle his own shoulder. Because he was so lonely. Because he was so lonely and lacking of touch.

Loneliest guy in the world. And then Randall Winston is introduced as Death. Death, yes. And the Winston, our fearless leader. So Randall Winston was our line producer

on the show. And for those who don't know, a line producer is the producer that really is handling the sort of, the daily money of things. Really like the guy

with the spreadsheet being like, we can afford that, we can't afford that. And he was a very, he was, he is a very tall man. How tall would you say he is? 6'7 or something? 6'6. Yeah, and so

he was established early on as Death. And he played Death throughout the whole run. Yes, and some of you are too young to know what this joke is about Connect Four. But Connect Four was a game from... It still is a game. Kids still play Connect Four connect for, but connect for was a, was a game from,

it still is a game. Kids still play. But I'm saying they didn't have the cheesy ad. Right. Cheesy ad in the eighties was a brother and sister playing and the sister wins and the brother goes pretty sneaky sis. Remember that you guys can look it up on YouTube. And so that's why we were spoofing that old 80s ad where I go, pretty sneaky, death.

But you got to do the lead up to it is, I win. Where? I don't see it. Right here, diagonally. Pretty sneaky, sis. Pretty sneaky, sis. And Randall, his main belief was that it's not a party unless both hands are in the air. So we had the most incredible rap parties and celebrations.

We would rap shows. We had great parties, man. And Randall is like some of the highlights of every part. Some of the best party highlights that I've ever experienced involve Randall. Involve Randall, dude. Fortunately for us, the guy spending the money for the party really loved to party. Right.

Yeah, we had some good parties. I'm sure there's episodes where they were like, you don't need that set. We're throwing a party. Why Johnny C's home space looked very sparse because we needed to go to oh my god we were just talking about that how johnny c they didn't get around to johnny c's uh apartment building johnny c's apartment it was just a hospital set but i think randall spearheaded i'm sure the like we got to we got to go on that crazy amazing trip everybody. Everybody to Vegas, we had to do like, they were able to kind of combine a press event with the scrubs wrap party.

And so they organized it. So like, or whole camp went to Vegas altogether. Things that'll never happen ever in, in ever again. I doubt any show is taking their whole company to Vegas to throw a bash. Those were the old, those were the old days. Yeah. We got to shoot a whole season in the Bahamas with the whole crew. Not a season. Just a couple episodes.

Sarah may have stayed and shot a season. What is a season? Donald, I want to know a sports question and I want you to be honest. Yes. Did you know what the quote unquote catch was? Absolutely. It's a famous thing that sports people know about.

Absolutely. So Joe Montana. Yeah. It looked like he couldn't throw it to anyone in this game. Now, granted, I don't know who they were playing. So when we're talking about it in the show, I didn't know who they were playing. But he found Dwight Clark in the end zone.

And it was, you know, it's one of the biggest catches in history. As a matter of fact, it's a part of a commercial, like a Gatorade commercial or something like that. And that's how I first heard about it. Because I wasn't a big football fan growing up. I didn't become a football fan until later on in life. But yes, I did know when they referenced the catch, I knew exactly what it was. Okay, good. Because I didn't know, because I don't know anything about sports,

if everyone who's into sports knows, oh, the catch. It's called the catch. Well, I mean, at that time, it was called the catch. I'm sure since then, Eli Manning and Mario Manningham, they have a, you know, how he found him running down the... I didn't know when or where the catch was, but I had heard of the reference before. Donald, tell us about the bowling thing, because I was laughing at this going, what are those pins?

Like, what is that supposed to be in the hospital, those giant blue things? First of all, this is a testament for how immature Christopher Turk was. So the kid says to him, hey, it's the catch. Turk turns around and goes, yeah, I'll watch the catch with you. And within 15 minutes, he's bowling a kid down the hospital hall. Like, how did this kid convince, like, that's how weak-willed Chris Turk is. How in the hell did this kid convince him to put him in a wheelchair and push him down a hall into a bunch of, I guess they were recycling bins.

Is that what they were supposed to be? Recycling bins? I think so. Because to me, they looked like cardboard tubes that someone put in the house. I'm hoping that it was a recycling bin. But how did this kid convince him and the rest of the floor? Chris Turk walked out the room and was like, yo, this is what we're going to do. All right?

I know. I'm going to put him in a wheelchair. I know I just started as a doctor here, but I'm going to roll a patient in a wheelchair down the hall. If you're a new doctor, don't try that at work, please. Well, and that was the great thing about this show also is that he was held accountable for it, you know, Kelso right away. And this is where Kelso mentors Turk kind of also.

Like, we're not here to make friends. We're here to treat these patients, dude. Be a doctor. Yeah. I wanted to talk about the park, Sarah, you referenced it already. But I remember feeling really bad at 9 minutes and 30 seconds slamming that little girl's face into the cake. That was hilarious.

I wish I could do that to my kids sometimes. It was funny. I mean, it was funny on paper when we got there and she has that cute little face. And I was like, so you guys really want me to jam this girl's face into the cake? And they're like, yeah, you gotta do it. You can't just fake it. You gotta do it. And I was like, and I talked

to her. I was like, sweetie, are you okay with this? And she's like, yeah, sure. It's gonna be funny. And I was like, alright, here we go. And I just jammed her head in it and it felt really nice. Yeah, listen. Sarah can attest to this. She has children. As much as we love our children. Oh, sometimes you want to just slam their face into a cake.

Slam their face into a cake. Especially when they're going to be quarantining for the near multiple, multiple days, months. If I had the opportunity and I knew my wife wouldn't be pissed off at me for doing it, Rocco's face would have been slammed into a couple of his birthday cakes.

Into many a cake? I'm just going to put that out there right now. I might need to go bake a couple cakes. We're going to go break. When we come back, we have a caller. Hi, I'm Martha Stewart, and we're back with a new season of my podcast. This season will be even more revealing and more personal with more entrepreneurs, more trailblazers, more live events,

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that we get to take a caller once an episode. And here she is. What's your name? Alexis Torres Plumlee! In my best Oprah. Donald just gave you an Oprah intro, Alexis. I know. Oh, I was looking for your name.

And the good thing about Zoom is it just says it right there, Alexis Torres Plumlee. Right there on the bottom. Where are you, Alexis? Plumlee! Donald, don't ruin the woman's hearing. She's in quarantine. I'm actually in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania right now. PA in the house.

My family has a steakhouse nearby. Oh, really? Called the Glass Lounge. Oh, I haven't gone there yet, but it's awesome. Will you go there? I want you to go there. Tell them I sent you. If you're in that area, go to the Glass Lounge. Oh, I haven't gone there yet, but it's awesome. Will you go there? I want you to go there. Tell them I sent you. If you're in that area, go to the Glass Lounge.

It's going to be a while, buddy. It's going to be a while. Oh, yeah. Not now, obviously. But, you know, when this nightmare is over, go check out the Glass Lounge. Yeah, I will definitely go for sure. Well, thank you for coming on. And do you have a question? It doesn't have to be Sarah Chalk focused.

It doesn't have to be just because she's. But if you want to, we understand. She's an intelligent human, and she probably knows the best person to talk to. I mean, we'll see. No, just kidding. I have actually technically a question for all of you guys. If you could switch roles with anyone in the series, any character, who would it be and how would you play

their character? Would it be different than how it was originally played or... That's a very good question. Sarah, go first. I mean, if it meant that I could have Donald's dancing skills? Was that fantasy that Sarah and I were making out and I was making out with you because she

was you? Oh my god. It starts off where you guys were making out and I was making out with you because she was you? Oh, my God. It starts off where you guys are making out, and then she's like, you fantasized about kissing Turk just now, didn't you? And then I made out with Mandy Moore as myself. Mandy was dressed up as herself. No, Mandy was just herself, and you were dressed up as me, I think, right? I think. That was a really beautiful moment in television history right there. I had to make out with Judy in the pilot.

Yeah, that's right. Yeah. We just watched that where you made out with the model girl. Is that the pilot or is that the second episode? That was the second episode. Yeah. But so you'd like to be Donald.

If you could be anybody else is what you're saying. Well, if I could, if I could do that fucking poison dance or rowdy, that would be pretty low, low pressure. Right. What about you, you zach it's a

very good question i guess um i would i it's funny because you don't want to pick you want to have some screen time right you want to pick one of the seven so you're gonna have some good screen time i think i would uh choose uh johnny c just because um he had such amazing they just knew how to write for him so amazingly well and he was just I don't know I think I just love all the material they gave Johnny so I think that would be a really challenging fun part to even attempt to do

Nobody's going to pick MASH walking around in a banana hammock? That's who I was going to pick. If I could pick anybody I guess it would be MASH-O If I could get like we we teased we used to make fun of machio about running line and everything like that but i had such a hard time learning my lines back then that i probably it probably would have suited me to play mash to play you know the first thing uh the first step to uh solving uh memorizing your lines donald

is to actually just do it or to read read the script, actually. Read the script. I love how you're always like, I just have such a hard time memorizing lines. I'm like, dude, you've been playing PlayStation in your dressing room. That's all I did, yeah. You haven't even looked at it. No, yeah. OK.

All right. Do you have another question, Alexis? Do you have another question? We're going to answer a better one. OK. Yeah, your questions suck. That's what he just said. He just pretty much said, it's OK.

I like you. I like you. It was creative. It was thoughtful i think you're spectacular and i love harrisburg but i think you got a better question in you no i don't know if i should no now you gotta ask um what was something that you were super proud of back then that you did maybe it was a scene or a specific joke or anything like that but then now since you guys are doing the rewatch and you've seen it now you're or a specific joke or anything like that but then now since you guys

are doing the rewatch and you've seen it now you're kind of like oh that wasn't as good as i remember well that's a good question sarah as guest you have to go first jesus the pressure i feel like interestingly enough like you're like i feel like interestingly enough i was just fucking amazing i mean i mean i thought you were amazing like i actually find the early stuff a little bit harder to watch i feel like i learned so much on the show i feel like i learned so much from bill i learned so much from the rest of the cast and i feel like it's so different watching those early episodes eight years later certainly with elliot too the character changed a lot like in the pilot we even did reshoots she was much harder and much you know there was a bit more of a a biatch in the in the in the beginning and then and then we actually did a couple reshoots

to soften her and then I think you know the the line between me and her started to blur it's the first part of your question what were you the most proud of certainly interestingly enough it's this is definitely one of those. Like when I think back on the eight years, this is the first one to pop into my mind about just the kind of show that Scrubs was. And then in terms of things to do differently, well, that's just, I mean... Sarah, I don't think you could have done everything differently. I wish that I could go back and have a chin because this episode starts with the least flattering view of my non-existent chin. And in later episodes, I would look at the director

and be like, bro, don't shoot me like that. I mean, I'm doing the best I can with what I have, but that's not the angle I want for myself. And Bill, I don't know how many listeners know this but bill would like to add things that were actual real physical attributes and write them into the show so characters would be named by their physical attributes so like the the guy with the beard is beard for say because he you know and uh and so so for me my character you know you had to say lines like short hair gives me pig face which is not untrue um and uh

and or there was one where i had uh my character was like oh yeah chin hair's back because i have this mole where um three hairs grow out of it and so that was actually written into the show by the way my son said to me a few years ago completely seriously he's like mama i have terrible news and i said what and he goes you're growing a beard oh my gosh so so there were definitely moments of the show where he just had to go okay all in the name of comedy i shall air out my biggest insecurities yeah and you know in terms of how it worked too like bill would come up and he would watch us. And this is not common for every, you know, creator of a show to come up for every single rehearsal. He would come up from, you know, to the, to the set from the writer's room and the writer's room was in another wing of the hospital. He would tweak a lot of stuff. He would say, I actually

don't love this blocking. I think how I'd had it in my head was X, Y, or Z. And, um, and he would, he would, he would tweak our performance and our jokes too, to the point where like, a lot of times I think actors like don't like a line read. And I just had so much respect for him. I'd be like, yeah, just, if you've got some way in your head, just, you know, tell us and we'll do it. Right. Yeah. All right. Well, thank you for coming on. Are you going to give her, are you going to give her the Oprah goodbye send-off as well, Ben?

Let's say goodbye to Alexis Torres Plumlee! You get a car. You get a car. You get a car. Alexis, we cannot give you a car. I know. It's okay. I can't go anywhere anyway.

You can't go anywhere. Yay! Yes, go get a steak when this is all said and done at the Glass Lounge. All right, thank you so much, Alexis. Bye! Thanks, Alexis. Bye. Thanks, Alexis. Later. You guys, at 11.49, one of my biggest regrets in the history of Scrubs is that I flinch

right before those bricks fall on me. And I remember Bill being so disappointed in me because there were like four takes of it and I flinched every time. But it's pretty tricky to not flinch when you know a bunch. I know that they're not real bricks, but it still was noticeably uncomfortable. I mean, it'd be pretty hard not to, especially I feel like all that shit, like even if it was like a major pratfall or something,

once you've done it once, I feel like our best chance out of the gate is on your first take. Because the second you've done it once, you know what's going to happen. You know the feeling of it. Maybe you like tweak something a little bit in your shoulder and then it's kind of it's a wrap but this was early on in the show and i and i and i was i was really loving doing physical comedy and i always

love physical comedy you referenced john ritter i mean when i grew up on three's company and i just thought that john ritter was the funniest person i'd ever seen and i wanted to be like him and bill was giving me lots of love for my physical comedy and this was the first moment where he like called me in the editor's room he's like dude you flinched on every take and i was like no you blew it i was like i let daddy down fucking blew it the first time i was called out by by bill uh after he left the editing room was you guys will remember the day uh we had been so lucky to get nominated for an Emmy. We were going and we were excited.

And I got to borrow this fancy dress and the stylist. I'd never had a stylist before. And she said, so you need to go get it. Oh, my God. I remember this day. This was the best. And I said, no, I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to go get a tan.

And she said, OK, go get a spray tan. And so I said, okay. So I think the Emmys were like on the Sunday. And so on the Friday of work, it might've been well before that. It might've been well before that. It might've been like maybe five days before or something like that, dude.

Cause we did the whole episode. Wait, let her tell the story. Let her tell the story. My bad. Okay. Okay. So I get to, I get to the tan. Let her tell the story. My bad. Okay, so I get to the tanning booth

and it's like that fucking episode of Friends where Ross becomes a nine instead of a three because it keeps spraying stuff at him. He doesn't turn around and it sprays again

and it sprays again. So I get in there and you watch this little video and you put this cream on your hands and you got to spin around and do these weird poses and I had like

negative five minutes to get this done before going to set and I put a hairnet over my face so that I wouldn't tan my face and then I rip that off and then keep spraying and so I get to set and I'm I'm tanned and then tanned is not the word no I'm about to say hold on now you were fucking you were full umpah umpah hold on no not yet not yet because what happens with this spray tan is it develops over time and so I was in the makeup chair and they did my makeup and we're doing these scenes. And then as the day goes on, I'm just getting like more and more and more tanned. And instead of actually

tanned, it was just more and more and more orange. And so Bill comes to talk harder than any special effect we've ever done on the show. than making zach's head explode um in the fantasy sequence is going to be making you look less like an oompa loompa oh gosh you were like we're trying to float filters in front of your face because we can't color time it and just jack out like we can't just wind the knob and take out some of the color because we keep doing it you're in a scene with donald and then make donald white dude i'm going to say something right now. I remember when it happened. I remember you being on set and I remember saying to you, did you change something?

Did you do your hair different or something like that? What's so different? And you were like, I got 10. I remember just like kids in a family, the three of us, whenever one of us was in trouble, I was always so happy when it wasn't me. And you just be like, you just be on set, just kind of bouncing around like, oh shit, somebody's in trouble and it's not me. And you just be like, you just be on set, just kind of bouncing around.

Like, oh shit, somebody's in trouble and it's not me. And Sarah is frigging orange. Oh my God. It was so embarrassing. It's like, we were laughing. That's just like the time I got the braces on the inside of my mouth.

We were laughing about that. When Donald showed up with braces, then he was like, so Bill, I got braces and nobody can even notice. Oh my God. The exact same thing. Oh God.

So what did you do? Did you just have to go get them taken out? Yeah, right off. Yeah, dude. Yeah, he made me get them taken out. I got Invisaligned in like season two. Everybody made so much fun of me, but I had to take them out like right before a take,

but you're supposed to wear them like 22 and a tween. Like it was just, oh, it was a disaster. I just remember Donald, it was so funny watching him try to sell the bill that the braces nobody was going to notice those braces on the inside of his teeth it's going to be great everybody's going to love this nobody's even going to notice and i think it's going to be great for my it's gonna be great for my teeth i remember i went i went home that night after the spray tan and i had to scrub every ounce of my body.

I just, my face and my, my body, I just was like taking salt to it. And then I did a movie in Hawaii last year and the person wanted us to do a spray tan. So Lauren Lapkus, who plays the lead in the movie, and I was supposed to get spray tans. I said, I've actually had a couple of really bad experiences with spray tans. I don't recommend it. I think it's just reacts with me in a bad orangey way. And they're like, no, no, no. We have like the best people in Hawaii. They're going to come. They I don't recommend it. I think it just reacts with me in a bad, orangey way. And they're like, no, no, no. We have the best people in Hawaii. They're going to come. They're going to do it. You're going to love it. So I come down the next morning. The woman comes to your hotel room at night four, sprays you down. I come down to the hair and makeup trailer,

and they are freaking out. They're like, your legs are orange. And then Lauren Lackus hasn't seen any of this preamble. She walks in. She's like, who loves a spray tan? And they're like, Sarah, quickly, go back up to your hotel room. Take some salt. Scrub. Scrub it all off. Get it all off quick. I'm like, okay, I'll be right back.

Oh, my God. So, Sarah, I don't think spray tans are for you. No. Do you burn when you get into the sun? Yes. She's very pale. Look at her. Look how pale she is.

That was the other joke on this movie that was in hawaii i would literally in between in between scenes i would be you know completely covered up to the point where we would go out at night and i'll be everyone else would be like uh chalk do you have your sunscreen on like i just i mean i burn let's talk about the scene uh but the dramatic scene sarah i think your acting is really good here at 1703 there's this awesome scene where you and judy where judy comes to get you and you're at the soda machine i think this is a really really good acting on your part was this your was this the first big uh monologue for you on the show i thought you were gonna say was this the first time that you put in your ipod and listen to

josh radin oh is that what you did oh you're giving josh radin was it josh radin or was it on the show? I thought you were going to say, was this the first time that you put in your iPod and listen to Josh Raiden? Oh, is that what you did? Oh, you're giving Josh Raiden. Was it Josh Raiden or was it, who was it? I will remember you. Well,

don't, don't take away her. Don't take away her Josh Raiden plug. Donald, is this, is that what you, Josh Raiden's gotten enough plugs on this show. Is that,

is that who you use to get to, to make your eyes, to make yourself emotional and eyes tear up? Well, I was still young. I mean, at that point now, you know, as you grow older, you have many more experiences to draw from. But I used to use an iPod

and I would play sad music and kind of get into the mode. I don't, not then. That scene was kind of, it was very early on. It was enough. I mean, I remember just shooting it and it was...

Was it Babies Got Back? Babies Got Back. I mean... There's something about the lyrics that was... Was it Babies Got Back? Babies Got Back. I mean... There's something about the lyrics that just... You can see, if you look very closely, if you stop, freeze the frame, you can see my hips just kind of... Undulating.

My booty's shaking a little bit. Yeah, no, Josh Radin, let's give him a plug, man. He obviously was a soundtrack to many things. I delivered my children to Joshua Radin's song. There you go. If you're going to deliver your children uh and that's coming up we recommend you use the musical stylings of joshua rayden josh rayden sang the song at my wedding our first dance was to josh rayden and he fucked up the song tremendously he did but i love him

oh my god he didn't even remember the song i I got the video. Which song of it was it? It was... Which song of his was it? No, it was... Moon pours through the ceiling tonight Embraces us with light And it was perfect for the moment. The rest of my life can't compare to this night

Whoa, yeah And only the heartaches have given me sight they bring me to you right bring me to you he fucked it up the whole he fucked up the whole song dude well that was i wish i could play opposite of a plug no it was it's fine dude he did it listen it's not every day you get somebody like like him to one perform at your wedding also to do it for free so you know that he also performed at ellen's wedding he's got a lot of but i'm sure i'm sure they paid him i didn't have to pay him and for that alone for that we thank you josh radin you are one of my heroes i can't believe donald didn't ask me to

sing at his wedding by the way sar Sarah has the worst voice in the world, America. Let me tell you something, America and all other nations listening. Don't ever let Sarah sing. Windows will break. No, no,

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I guess we haven't covered that yet, that you guys didn't ask me to help you record the opening song. Can you imagine? Do you like our song? I love your song. Yeah, Charlie Puth wrote the music, and Donald and I were the lyricists. Well, we wrote the melody too and then sent it to him.

Well, the melody is kind of- Right, can we take credit for melody? Melody was us. Charlie Puth is producer and music writer. Right. And you and I are the lyricists. But we also need to give a little shout out to sitcom shows from back in the day,

like the Jeffersons. Oh, yeah. Someone said on Twitter, I thought it was right. It said, it's a mix between the Brady Bunch theme and the Jeffers the jefferson oh yeah someone said on on twitter i thought it was it was right it said it's a mix between the brady bunch theme and the jefferson's theme yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's exactly what it is yeah i thought that was really uh perfect sarah do you find yourself singing our theme song when you're in your house in quarantine it's it's you know i i've actually learned it i i've got i'm learning the guitar, the ukulele, actually. And I'll send you guys a clip of me singing it.

And you, you know, I'll leave it in your hands if you want to. Put it on the show. My girlfriend caught me on the treadmill listening to our theme song and laughed at me. Not with me, at me. You're proud of it. You're proud of it. Things I noticed about the show, about this show. Go ahead.

I had no idea that I bopped that hard in the hallway. And when I say bop, I mean like I had to straight up, my walk is legendary, dude. A strut. Is it like a strut? It's like a strut. But it's like so over the top, dude. It's so over the top. It's like George Jefferson when he would do this.

This is exactly like George Jefferson. It's like so heavy. It's like, yo, dude, why are you going so hard with that? And I just loved it. Do you remember who your inspiration was? It's always Sherman Hemsley. Sherman Hemsley.

Always. I wanted to say something about the scene. In 1907, I had this dramatic scene with Catherine Houston, and it was the first time I ever had the balls to go to Bill because I thought I did a good job. And then he showed me an edit of it and he had taken out some of my dramatic pauses. And it was one of the first times in my acting career where I was like, I was like, I gotta go talk to him because he's making me look like a bad actor.

He's taking out the pauses because the show had to be cut down to 22 minutes or something. And I remember Bill going like, dude, there's no time. It's 22 minutes. There's no time the pauses, like, you know, because, you know, the show had to be cut down to 22 minutes or something. And I remember Bill going like, dude, there's no time. It's 22 minutes. There's no time for pauses. There's no time for dramatic pauses. And I think in the end, he put a little bit back, but it was like, it was when she goes, are you okay? And then I go, I'm scared.

And then when I saw it edited together for the first time, I was like, are you okay? I'm scared. And I was like, oh, that makes me look really bad. And this is the thing that actors, I'm sure I know as a director, feel all the time sometimes. You look and go, why did you cut me like that? On the day, I thought I was doing a much better job. But if you take out that pause and cut to me like that, I don't look as good as I want to be.

I'm sure you guys had that feeling throughout the show sometimes. Well, yeah. We would tell jokes sometimes, and jokes wouldn't make the show. And, you know, we'd have moments where we thought, you know, we were crushing it, and then only to see, you know, the editors and Bill decided to use the reaction shot instead of your actual, you know, instead of your performance. Or the joke's gone.

Right, or the joke's just completely gone. Right. Yeah. I love that. I love that scene that you're talking about, Zach. It was one of my favorite ones in the, in the episode when, you know, she tells you to go and live your life and you're like, you know, uh-huh. Uh-huh. I'm just working on a few things and you go up to the thing and you're kind of pretending.

I don't want to go. And, and then it's always, you know, my father who passed away recently always, always would reference this moment in Scrubs that he, he thought it was so incredibly moving, the idea of a, of an older woman comforting a young doctor about death. And, and he said, I just, he, you know, he was, he was like, I never seen anything like that before. And, and, and when I was just watching it this time, I, I just remember how much he would always reference that because it was so, so beautiful that, that sentiment that, that JD doesn't know how to deal with death yet, but here's this older woman who's ready to go and she's the one comforting him about it. I just thought that was beautifully written.

Somehow managed to also be funny in parts. That was what I couldn't believe. Like when she's just like, everybody dies. No, they don't. Right. No, they don't. Right. The Schmeiffel, the Meifel Tower. The Meifel Tower. Have you ever been to the The Schmeiffel Tower. The Meifel Tower. The Meifel Tower. Have you ever been to the Meifel Tower? What about the Meifel Tower? That being said, the whole list thing, especially with the way things are right now, that whole list thing got me to thinking.

You know what I mean? I don't have any regrets in my life or anything like that. But there are certain things that I still want to do. You know what I mean? And we're in quarantine and it doesn't feel like we're going to get out of this anytime soon. You know what I mean? Not to sound morbid or dark or anything like that. But when JD brings up the list and she's like, I've done all of those things already, It really made me think like, well, you know, when this is over, I'm going to make sure that I get out and I live a lot more than I did before.

You know what I mean? Well, that's interesting. I mean, this quarantine thing, I agree. I think it gives you perspective. And I've just been focusing on gratitude a lot because I just think that like when all this is so insane and it makes you focus on how lucky we are and what we want to appreciate in life. You know, they just, the simple things like being able to go to a restaurant with friends and laugh and have a drink.

And I don't know, it's interesting you say that. So have you made a list, Donald? Are you making lists of things you want to do? I'm going to start a list. I know a lot of it has to do with my kids and making sure that they get to experience a lot of the things that I didn't experience when I was young. You know what I mean? I try to do that now, but I feel like maybe I need to go a little bit overboard and then, you know, have my wife tell me we need to dial it back a little bit. We're going too far. You know what I mean? Like, there are certain things that my kids

have never done that and that's because i don't do it you know what i mean and i don't want to i don't want to do that to them i want them to have that experience and that adventure i feel like i feel like it's it's also because we don't know when this is over we don't know how long we're going to be doing this for and it doesn't seem to be short. Obviously, it sounds like 10 until we have a vaccine. Who knows how long this chunk of our lives is and what it looks like and whether it opens back up. I feel like as impossible as it is and as trite as it's like trying to be in the moment and trying to figure out what like the rare times with them that I have now that are so hard to get in the everyday. Think about how much time you spend in the car,

driving them to activities, doing whatever. And when work takes over and that becomes so all-consuming. And I feel like as much of it is that we can squeeze out just here, just sitting with them. I was reading something the other day saying people are worried about their kids getting behind in education. What if they actually came out ahead? And I thought that was such a cool way to look at it. Like kids, this is going to form who they are and who they become. And what if they, what if they actually start to appreciate the small things that we're starting to appreciate right now, instead of just the grind of everyday life? And what if they actually learn to do meaningful chores at home and learn the,

the, the value in that and learn how to, you know, actually be. I hear you. You know, the only thing I worry about with all of that is their social skills when this is all said and done. You know what I mean? That's the only thing I worry about. But yeah, you know, we got this kid reading, you know, she's on sight words and we're trying to get her to read and stuff like that.

And we're working with math and all of that stuff. But at the end of the day, it's like, you know, there's something special about being around other children their age to interact with, you know what I mean? It's so true. I know my heart breaks for only kids who are, you know, having to go through this right now with no kids to play with. It's really hard. The show ends with Hallelujah by John Cale, which has been covered by lots of folks. Um, I thought this was a particularly beautiful, uh, rendition. And, uh, again, I think it was the first real time I noticed the show ending with a, with a sweet, somber, uplifting song in a, in a beautiful way, cutting to the montage. And I got, I wrote down,

I got goosebumps at 2014 when we when we all three whip our heads around um yeah revealing that we've all it's not one in three in this case the odds have have fallen so we've lost three of three uh i i got goosebumps up and down my arms at that moment i thought that was really beautifully done absolutely so shocking when that happens right like as a viewer i think you're not that. You're kind of waiting for that statistic that they set up at the beginning. And then we end the show. And this is what I was saying a few episodes before. Sarah, you weren't here for this.

But it's really important for doctors to be able to pick themselves back up after something like this happens. And, you know, it's also very important that this happens to these young doctors at an early time so they do know how to set up boundaries and do know how to set up walls to help them be professional. It's tragic that it has to be death that does it. But, yeah, you know, to lose someone you care about and then show up the next day at that job, it's very difficult. I can't imagine it. I find it difficult to watch and it's very difficult i can't i i can't imagine it i find it difficult to watch and it's very difficult to experience i would imagine and that was that and that piece of it's so cool that the show kind of shows that right after with all you know turk going back and

introducing himself right to the patient jd taking the time to go be on the grass elliot kind of figuring out how to take charge and that was kind of cool too johnny's conversation with elliot when he says you made the right call. You did. Yeah. And she says, I know. And I don't, I didn't remember that. And when I saw that, I, you know, just sort of having her take that confident position.

Yeah. That was really powerful. I was really powerful. I thought. Okay. Listen, guys, we did it. We did. I'm so glad Sarah, we had you because we wanted to have you on this one because we all keep

saying this was a very special episode for all of us. And, um, thank you for, uh, for coming on. And I hope, you know,

we're having fun doing this. I hope that Donald and I both hope that you'll come as, as, as many times as you're willing to and, and, and rewatch the show with us. I loved it. It was so fun.

So fun to do. Um, so is that a yes? Was that a yes? That was a very noncommittal. That was a very odd. I'm in. You know where I am, guys.

I'm not doing anything. How do you say goodbye in Canadian, Sarah? I think it's goodbye. Goodbye. Wait, is it something like au revoir? That's French. Well, you know, there's a lot of them speak French up there, Donald. It's a bilingual country here, guys.

Is it? Yes. on that note uh donald if you'll lead us in song uh why gotta be donald why can't i lead us in sorry you can lead us in song uh we will now uh donald count us in please one two i prefer when you count down like debbie bye okay you got big dreams yeah you want fame. You take the monologue this time. Where fame costs. And right here is where you start paying. Is wet.

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