Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - 124: My Last Day with Bill Lawrence and Christa Miller

Episode Date: June 30, 2020

On this week's episode, it is the season one finale! Kristen is back and she's ready to expose everyone's dirty little secret, In the real world, Zach and Donald are joined by real-life couple goals -... Bill Lawrence and Christa Miller. They talk about the first year of Scrubs and the beginning of friendships that would last a life time. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:13 No, no, no, no, no. What's that dress? Is that for you? It's not for me, first of all. Hold on. How are you? I miss you. No, well, you don't, because you started off with some type of rude shit.
Starting point is 00:02:27 You know what I mean? No, what was rude about saying, is Casey going to wear that dress that's hanging? It's a very pretty dress. When I said she wasn't going to wear that today, you automatically asked if it was for me. Right. Now, I am one who doesn't mind dresses hanging in the background. You, however, seem to have a phobia of it I think my point was You're a dress-a-phobia
Starting point is 00:02:51 In the spirit of everyone Changing their backgrounds All three of you have a new background And you do not I know you're not drinking coffee I've turned over a new leaf I don't know if you know this Oh god, it's time for another leaf What leaf did you turn over this morning? I've turned over a new leaf. I don't know if you know this, but I've turned...
Starting point is 00:03:05 Oh, God, it's time for another leaf. What leaf did you turn over this morning? I've turned 46. Yes! Let's have a birthday to Donald Faison. Thank you, everyone. Thank you. This will be airing late, everyone, but Donald's birthday was the 22nd. Yes, and I turned 46 years old.
Starting point is 00:03:22 And I want to thank everybody for all the love that you've given me. And I want to thank everybody for all the love that you've given me. And I want to say to all my fans out there that listen to the podcast and all of Zach's fans that listen to the podcast, it's working. Come join the dark side. Oh, yeah. With our combined strength, we can rule this galaxy. I saw a lot of talk on my Instagram about how everyone needs to follow Donald.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And some girl wrote, you need to help Donald get more followers because he, quote, caught feelings or something like that. I thought that was a funny expression. Did you catch feelings? Who doesn't catch? I always catch feelings. You caught feelings. By the way, your wife slid into my DMs today because she was not happy with the picture I posted of you.
Starting point is 00:04:09 It's an old picture, by the way, obviously, because we're lying on a chaise lounge together and we're in quarantine. But Donald was during one of his heavier periods
Starting point is 00:04:18 and his wife slid into my DMs to be like, why are you posting that picture of Donald? Yeah, she said to me, she said, did you see the picture that Zach posted? I was like, yeah. She was like, he couldn't crop anything? That's what she said.
Starting point is 00:04:32 She said you couldn't help a friend out? He couldn't help a friend out and do some cropping? Right. He couldn't have cropped that? I was like, crop what? She was like, your belly. Oh, shit. No, I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:04:45 I love you so much. I didn't notice that you were in that picture having a large belly time. I thought you looked very handsome. Thank you very much. So anyway. Your wife was like, Crop that shit. Yeah, right. And, you know, I think everyone out there deserves someone like I have.
Starting point is 00:05:07 think everyone out there deserves someone like i have i have a wonderful woman who uh is very supportive and takes care of situations that i might be a little bit uh you know apprehensive no no no yeah you know instead of me being like well why did zach post that and get upset at zach i'll stay away from the confrontation and the conflict whereas my wife's like no no no we ain't letting that shit slide what's what's what's zach's number and she will call you she's like the mom i know some people that are very gifted at photoshop if you want i could i could take off some pounds from that picture for you no no no i like i mean i think all of me is beautiful. I can paint in abs. No, no, no. I think, I think all, like I said, all of me is beautiful. Even the extra,
Starting point is 00:05:52 just ask my wife. You know, it's funny that we're starting off a little bit confrontational because in this episode, do you remember what happened? No. We got in a a fight we got in probably our first fight i don't remember when yes what was during the lasso thing in the icu fantasy oh because i was pulling you too hard pulled me way too hard and i screamed like a like no don't say it i got hurt because you were fucking really legit yanking me across the ground with your lasso. And you were like, don't pull me so hard. No, and then we got in a fight. And I think the rest of that scene, we're like not speaking to each other.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Really? You don't remember this? When I watched this episode, I went, oh, that was like our first time we got in a legit argument. And then we had to like do the rest of the scene, I think. And we were like. Did we make up before the wrap party? Because right after this, we moved to New York together. We must have, dude.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I think it was like a few-day tiff. We had a few-day tiff. What have you been doing with your time? You went away for a bit. What did you do? The gal and I went to Joshua Tree to get out, to go to the desert. Did you get out? Did you see anything? Did you see anything?
Starting point is 00:07:05 Did you see rattlesnakes? We saw lots of bunnies. I think they're bunnies. Hairs are large, right? I didn't know if it was a hair or a bunny. I think it was a bunny. Lots of bunnies. I think a hair is really large and bunnies are really tiny.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I don't know, man. There's jackrabbits too that are- Listen, the puppy, everywhere the puppy went, it was getting cactus thorns. Are they thorns in a cactus? Yes. All over its paws. So we didn't know what to do. So we got baby socks, and we put the baby socks on the puppy,
Starting point is 00:07:37 but the baby socks kept falling off. So then we got rubber bands and tied them around the top of the baby socks so the booties would stay on the dog's paws. Did it cut the circulation off of the dog's paws? No, no. We're not idiots, dude. It wasn't like super tight, but we did it so the socks wouldn't fall off. So then the dog is running around with four little baby socks on.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Because we must have done, oh man, you can't bring a dog to joshua tree or if you can i you're a more experienced dog owner than we are they they the dog couldn't figure it out we couldn't figure it out wait so you took you you brought your kid on vacation with you pretty much yeah that's what you do well you could you could have kenneled the dog and then no no no no well you don't believe in kennel i kenneled the dog and then went on vacation with the dog. No, no, no, no. You don't believe in kennel. Well, I don't mind a kennel for an older dog.
Starting point is 00:08:29 This is, I mean, especially the kennel we go to is like they run around and they're free and they're not like caged. And I'm down with that. But more often than not, I would sooner get a house sitter, a friend of mine to, or my assistant to stay here and take care of the dog here. But it's our baby, so you wouldn't want to leave your newborn. It's like our newborn, so we brought it to the desert. But it was a mistake because now I know
Starting point is 00:08:56 in hindsight, they sell like legit dog boots. Oh, you need to get your dog some 11s, man, some Jordan 11s. That'd be so funny, by the way. If they made dog Jordans, I would to get your dog some 11s, man, some Jordan 11s. That would be so funny, by the way. If they made dog Jordans, I would still get those. Or dog Yeezys. Yeah, well, I mean, the Yeezys might be a little bit more expensive
Starting point is 00:09:13 than the Jordan 11s. Dog Yeezys would be hilarious. If anyone makes those on Etsy, I'll take them. But yeah, no, they make legit dog booties, but we didn't have those, so we jerry-rigged some baby socks. That's hilarious. Made a trick to a giant Walmart. We gloved up and masked up and went into the biggest Walmart I've ever seen in my life.
Starting point is 00:09:34 So what is the deal? I thought you didn't necessarily need to glove up anymore. You don't. I'm just trying to be as serious. Cases are spiking here in California, so I'm trying to be as serious as possible. But is it true? Okay, this is what I read, and I could be wrong. Dan, Joelle, please jump in if I am wrong.
Starting point is 00:09:54 And if I'm right, jump in as well. that we're having in California, this all could be propaganda, are delayed tests that have finally come in and that we're testing more people than most states. And so because of that... Well, that's what the president is broadcasting. No, I didn't get this from the president. I got this from California, actually. The president's broadcasting, yes, that we are getting spikes because of our testing situation.
Starting point is 00:10:33 But California, from what I was told was we had, at least from what I heard from Newsom and what I heard from Garcetti and all of that stuff like that is that we had flattened the curve and we were climbing, but we were climbing because more tests were coming in. Well, let's ask Dan. He's very knowledgeable. Dan? You honor me. You know, we are definitely, Donald is certainly right that as we test more, we are seeing
Starting point is 00:10:52 more positive cases. I think the measure of wearing gloves at places like the supermarket, I think, is not necessarily overkill as, you know, you're bringing your germs out into the world and who knows how many of those cans someone has already touched, et cetera. I mean, I think all safety measures are good. The best one you can take is not touching your face before you come back and wash your hands. And yeah, right. We wash our stuff too. When we go to the grocery store, we spray and wash everything down because you don't know if someone with COVID took that off the shelf and was like, oh, I don't need it. And then you grabbed it. Exactly. Yeah. But from what I heard,
Starting point is 00:11:28 from what the CDC said, and from what a lot of doctors said, you can't necessarily get it from surface contact. It has to be droplets and airborne from what I understand. I don't know if that's true. Well, this is what the CDC is saying. I know, but don't be fucking steering our listeners wrong because you're like, I heard. I'm not steering anybody wrong. I'm just saying what I heard. I don't know what is true. What about Djokovic? Huh?
Starting point is 00:11:52 What about Djokovic? I know Djokovic got that shit, dude. Yeah, because he's fucking partying and doing sweaty chest-to-chest hugs. Really? You saw this for, you know this for a fact? I read this on the interwebs that he, there's video of him raging at like some, I think it was a Croatian
Starting point is 00:12:10 tennis tournament, and then at that tournament they were doing like after the match, like sweaty naked chest-to-chest hugs. Wow. And now he's out. He's about to start a tournament, right? Dan, was it the French Open or something? I think so, yeah. He can't play in that out. He's about to start a tournament, right? Dan, was it the French Open or something? I think so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:25 He can't play in that shit. He got that shit now, man. Are they here? I don't want to upset Bill. Are they in the room? Can't hear you, Dan, with your dumb new mic. Ironically, the tech wizard can't figure out his new fucking mic. I swear it's the...
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Starting point is 00:12:47 Okay, let's have a party. It's the final episode of season one. Hey, guys! What's up? Wait, let me... I love that she's representing. Hi. She got her Charlotte Lawrence shirt on.
Starting point is 00:13:01 I love that you're representing with your Charlotte Lawrence merch. Always. Now, to remind our listeners, when COVID began, Krista told Bill that he would be, she set up a guest room in the house and she said, Bill, that's your office. You're allowed to come out for lunch, but you work there nine to five now, right, Bill? Yeah. I don't think she was even comfortable with the idea of me venturing out to do this together, so I still have to stay down in here. Well, Bill wanted to be in my office together doing it, which would have been squished, and he would have stop hugged me. So I said, no, he's got to go downstairs.
Starting point is 00:13:43 We were hoping to get a stop hug on this listen i want to tell you they bill this is so annoying to me because it involves shit that you've said but um they sent us you know a merch options for the podcast and there's like one mug that says stop hug there's another mug that says five six seven eight i'm like this is all the fucking Bill's jokes on our merch. Here's the, this is the real,
Starting point is 00:14:09 I appreciate this, the five, six, seven, eight, because I think that's funny and that doesn't count as one,
Starting point is 00:14:14 Dan. But, five, six, seven, eight. No, come on.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Come on. What the fuck? I am the boss of this show. We didn't even get into two minutes of the podcast. I wanted to be the first one to do the song before the song. So the, but what, but what bums me out is that stop hug is a real and cherished thing.
Starting point is 00:14:38 And now it's a joke that's out there. And I don't like that at all. I don't like other people. Cherish. Yeah. It's, I think it's important in our relationship and I think you secretly love it.
Starting point is 00:14:50 No, I don't. So wait a second. Let me get this straight. Krista, if Stop Hug was to go away forever, you would be happy? I'd be good. I found myself recently wanting a hug from my girlfriend and uh when she was busy and i i kind of tried to do a stop hug and uh she was
Starting point is 00:15:15 not a fan of the stop hug well because she's busy she was making dinner but i was like the dinner's fine can i have a stop hug you guys can talk You guys can all talk about stop hugs going away as if that's a real thing, but it's like a fake premise. They're never going away. And they will always, always be part of my and my wife's life. Listen, guys. You know who loves a stop hug? Casey?
Starting point is 00:15:40 Casey Cobb loves a stop hug. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I can get yeah I mean she I take it back there are times where I'm like let's hug and she gives me the face like god damn it we just did that shit five minutes ago
Starting point is 00:15:53 Donald Donald those are the best stop hugs man when she rolls her eyes right before we hug I am so excited for that nothing better than when you know for When she rolls her eyes right before we hug, I am so excited for that. Yes, oh my God. I'm thinking about it now. Nothing better than when you know for sure they don't want it. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:16:11 I mean, we could go into a longer discussion about boundaries, but perhaps it's not something we want to address. No, I don't think people want to do that on a fun podcast. I think you guys are a very adorable couple because you keep it fresh. You have a little bit of a bickery banter, but you very much love each other. That is true. Yes. And that was nice to say a little bit of a bickery banter.
Starting point is 00:16:37 I thought that was lovely. Well, I've been on vacation with you guys, so I know that at times it might peak a little higher. vacation with you guys so i know that at times it might peak a little higher and then i get and then usually when it peaks i get a talking to from zach yeah i'm like their therapist when we're on vacation i'll be like guys guys guys i both of my parents were therapists let me let me do a little work on you too tag in hey donald belated happy birthday buddy thank you brother birthday donald thank you thank you thank you i'm 46 years old now tag in. Hey, Donald, belated happy birthday, buddy. Thank you, brother. Happy birthday, Donald. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm 46 years old now. You're a young
Starting point is 00:17:10 looking man. Just know that. I will accept and receive that. Thank you very much. I had a great day yesterday. The day before, my birthday was Father's Day, so I've had two days in a row of just straight up appreciation from my family. Even if they were faking it even
Starting point is 00:17:26 if it was fake it wasn't real it still warmed my heart for two days and i knew it was fake when at midnight when i was like trying to you know yeah say good night to the wife she was like uh-uh i'm going to bed and i was like i guess birthday's over huh and he was like yeah that shit's over you know how you know how you just said even if it fakes even if it's fake it still feels great
Starting point is 00:17:52 yeah not not unlike a stop hug not unlike a stop hug not unlike a stop hug I've learned yes I've learned to appreciate
Starting point is 00:18:00 the annoyed cause I know underneath all of that, there is love. So you know what? I will accept and receive. Well, I want you guys to know the level of Casey's love, Bill and Krista,
Starting point is 00:18:11 that I posted a really beautiful shot of Donald and I today on my Instagram. And it's an old picture, obviously, because we're lying next to each other. Donald and me. Sorry. Oh my God. No, Krista is the person in my life
Starting point is 00:18:24 who corrects that the most. And, my God. No, Krista is the person in my life who corrects that the most. And I'm nervous. I find myself when I'm about to use the and me or and I around Krista being nervous, be like, which one is it? That's a hard one. That's a hard one. No, Krista has a trick. It's quite easy. Krista, teach the audience your trick because I never learned this in school.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Well, if you're saying a picture with me then you wouldn't say with i right right no but you told me you told me a thing where you remove the other person and you just and you just say how you would say it if you were just saying it with me or with i right you said there's a cute picture of donald and me so there's a cute picture of me. I see. There you go. So I just remove Donald and I go, there's a cute picture of me. I wouldn't say there's a cute picture of I. No, no, you wouldn't. Thank you, Krista.
Starting point is 00:19:12 But do you always have to go with Donald first? Can you say there's a cute picture of me and Donald? No. Okay, got it. That's incorrect as well. There's a cute picture of Donald and me I put on Instagram. And it's old and donald is a little hefty and um wait hold on now hold on you are you're a smidgen hefty in the picture
Starting point is 00:19:30 unacceptable some of the some of the comments has said things like how many months is donald that kind of thing and i and why would you post because i thought he looked cute i i thought he looked adorable I'm sure you guys have this as a married couple Donald and I have this like oh I thought you looked cute I hate that picture of me how dare you post that do you look cute in the picture do I think I look cute
Starting point is 00:19:55 no he's asking if I think I look cute of course he looks cute that's why he posted it Donald Krista would post a picture of me shirtless and 400 pounds overweight and vomit all over my chest if she thought she looked cute in it.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Yeah. It's like me as a monster behind it. It's like all of those ladies that have the picture of them and the baby and the baby's not even looking and it's kind of like, you know, got woozy face, but they look great and they go, oh, look at the cute little baby. And baby and it's like no you didn't post that for the baby yeah it's
Starting point is 00:20:29 like that and casey got mad at your ass or what no so casey slid into my dms and was like you couldn't have cropped him and i just thought it's funny because it was like a good wife looking out for her husband's belly oh it makes me love casey even more man by the way that's that's another just idyllic couple donna man you found you found the right one there that's a fucking rock star she does love me man i'm very lucky they are you are you're both perfect couples you both are examples in my life and i'm not just saying this because you're on the phone of of being the perfect yin yang for each other you're both couples uh the men and being the perfect yin yang for each other. You're both couples. The men and women are very different from each other.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Very different, but compliment each other perfectly. I think. I thought it poetic that Crystal walked away during that. No, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:21:15 no, no. Crystal left. I just wanted to show Zachy a picture of, he took, um, with, of Sarah chalk and myself.
Starting point is 00:21:23 That is so cute. Oh, wow. How cute is that that that's from the bahamas yeah and you took it with my camera we were just talking about this whole camera situation that went on during the scrubs run um did you have were you a big camera fanatic before Brendan Fraser showed up, Krista? Yes, I was. I, Brendan, I bonded over the, over cameras, but yeah, I had my mom's third husband was a photographer. So I was often taking pictures with film cameras. Are you guys laughing because she's a third husband?
Starting point is 00:22:09 I'm laughing because I'm uncomfortable. I didn't want to hear it. Once Bill started laughing, I was like, I better laugh too. I don't know why people get married a third time. Like, just don't get married. Try it twice. And if it's not for you, just stop getting married. Why can't you have a boyfriend?
Starting point is 00:22:22 Well, she's with her fourth husband now. That one took, though. That one took. Yeah, took yeah no yeah that one's going all right so continue continue anyway so yeah so and i've always um and then i stuck to film because i think it's the most beautiful and then anytime i was modeling or you know doing any shoots i would talk to the photographer and buddy up to them and have them teach me tricks and techniques uh with photography plus zach was a nerd brendan was donald i never did it you never did it no i never did it we had we had brendan on and uh donald said something like no we had shay on when shay was on and we were talking about brendan's first episode with the camera and he donald was like why do I have so many Polaroid pictures of myself and I explained to him that uh you know
Starting point is 00:23:11 Brendan got you and I into old school Polaroid photography yeah yeah and also Brendan you got me like Brendan I mean I've just gone back in time with photography my cameras are bigger and clunkier than they were before because I used the old school ones but Brendan and I used to go into his darkroom he had a darkroom in his house when he used to live in California which I loved and I used to go over there like once a week and we used to sit in there for hours and it made me realize that
Starting point is 00:23:38 Bill would never let me have a darkroom here because he would never see me I mean I would just go in there for hours Wow. It's also hard to stop hug under the red lights of the dark i have a question is it because you would be experimenting with different exposures or or i mean i can't imagine that you take that many pictures that you're going to just develop everything like you know what i mean after you look at the contact sheet is it like i know that some people go into the dark room and then they try to create a formula of dip and all of
Starting point is 00:24:10 that stuff where they the pictures come out a little different and everything like that is that what it is yeah there's great techniques to um printing film in a dark room that you're you're you are messing with the exposures wow and with the shadows and trying to bring maybe a picture with a little underexposed when you shot it and then you try to fix it in the dark room things you can do digitally now easily i know but there was a lot of fun there was a lot of fun doing i got into photography in high school because we had a photography class in high school and it was i learned about the dark room and i just thought it was so much fun.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Now, of course, everyone just does it digitally, but it was a really fun thing to be experimenting with and doing. I loved it too. Did you three all call each other and say we should make sure we start by talking about something that Bill doesn't know anything about so he doesn't talk all the time? I know nothing about this. I know nothing about this.
Starting point is 00:25:02 I'm just trying to figure out where it all stemmed from because Zach believes it stemmed from Brendan. He believes that that was the beginning of... More than me, Zach? No, no, no. Donald's not remembering. I said that Krista and I were both hobbyists and then Brendan brought the world of old school Polaroids into our lives.
Starting point is 00:25:20 That's true. I wanted to tell you that Krista and Bill... Krista knows they love cameras of all types. And I went over to their house for Christmas. And I was very excited about the present that I had gotten them. I had found them these really, really cool Japanese slippers. And they were cool. I thought they were cool.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I was just wearing them. And then Krista said, here's the present for me and bill mind you i hadn't given them the slippers yet and and i open it up and it is the most gorgeous antique medium format camera that is like priceless and vintage and special works and not only can you use it but you'd also like put it on your mantle piece. And, and I'm like, I'm thinking in my head, holy fuck, I bought them slippers. Zach,
Starting point is 00:26:10 you always get us great presents. Always. Thank you. If it makes you, if it makes you feel any better, I didn't know what we got you until you opened it. That's funny. You know what?
Starting point is 00:26:28 Before we go any further, 5, 6, 7, 8. Here's some stories about a show we made about a bunch of docs and nurses in a Canada who love to hate. I said here's some stories that you all should know.
Starting point is 00:26:45 So gather round to hear So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald. Now we're in, now we're in. Now listen, we've been doing this for a full season, guys. We did not know this would be popular, and it's so fun that it is. But Donald and I couldn't think of a better way to end the first season of it than to have you two on, of course,
Starting point is 00:27:08 because you're both so funny. And also of course, Bill, this is your baby. And thirdly, we thought we might get you guys bickering, which is always good radio. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Always. Thank you. And congratulations. I've been loving it. It makes me happy. Thank you. I listen as a fan, and I think not only do I love revisiting a show that I, like you guys, I've almost forgotten all of it,
Starting point is 00:27:37 but listening to you guys live out your friendship in real time on here gives me great joy. It's super fun. None of this would be possible if it wasn't for you so more than anything thank you man you know we always thank you for the show but we we we probably never thank you for uh the friendship that you uh instilled inspired whatever the correct word is um and uh and that's that's that's the gift that keeps on giving my our our love for each other other was born when you thought we did the best job in the audition room,
Starting point is 00:28:07 even though we know now that Donald fucked up his audition. I could be sitting here doing a podcast with Dulé Hill. I have a question. Do you and Donald ever bicker? We were just talking about that. We were just talking about that before you guys got on. Bill, you probably don't know this because you weren't there you were in the writer's room but this episode is one of the first times i remember getting into a fight with donald when we were doing the stunt where he lassos me in the icu and pulls me donald of course got
Starting point is 00:28:39 very excited and uh and and pulled me like legitimately hard across that floor, and it fucking hurt. And then he wasn't apologetic, and we got in a fight, and the rest of the scene... We didn't get into a fight. We got into an argument. I would have whipped your ass if you would have put your hands on me. Let's give it 100. I didn't mean to imply that we got in a fist fight.
Starting point is 00:28:59 We got in an argument, and then the rest of the episode, the rest of that scene, we weren't speaking to each each other so that scene is played out in silent treatment dude what's the longest that we've gone without talking to each other because of a fight what's the longest oh probably a week probably a couple of no a couple of months dude casey casey whenever we get in a fight casey usually uh becomes the the the arbitrator and works it out. She becomes our couples therapist. It's very interesting. I want to be, my problem is I think Krista could go years without talking to me, and I'm always like, I'll match her stubbornness,
Starting point is 00:29:35 and I fold after about six minutes. It's like, please, please, please love me again. I hate being in an argument with either a friend or a partner. I just like that awkward, like, angrily making a sandwich in the kitchen. Throwing down the peanut butter knife. I don't, by the way, you referenced one of the moments that I thought was really funny on the show, not to take it to the show but that that universal concept of not wanting to get in another couple's fight and getting dragged back into it and then what i i since i i watch all these having forgotten them too when i see you hand it to uh uh aloma to nurse
Starting point is 00:30:17 roberts yeah and she and she gets pulled back but much more comfortably on her back on her back i think like on a skateboard or something, because if you look, she's floating like several inches above the ground. Yeah. I think the grips made Aloma her own dolly. Yes. It really made me laugh. I like that.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Aloma's not going to get dragged for real by Donald and get in a fight with him. No, there's no silent treatment there. How long would a real fight between you two last if it was physical, Donald? Do you think Zach even holds his own for a couple seconds? I think his cardio is way better than mine now. So I'd have to end it quickly because if I didn't, I would get tired and then his little taps would turn into hard punches. That's bullshit. Listen, Donald and I-
Starting point is 00:31:03 Bull true, dude. We used to, bull true. I've never heard Bull true, dude. We used to... Bull true. I've never heard the expression bull true. We used to get in play fights and, you know, just like, you know, pretend boxing. And I would feel beaten up even by that within seconds. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I'd like throw a fake punch, then he'd block it and then come with the other hand and I'd be like, oh, I'd be knocked out by that. Let's get into the episode directed by Michael Spiller, who's always one of our favorites. Right, guys?
Starting point is 00:31:27 I love that guy. Big round of applause for the season finale. Season finale. I didn't remember a bunch of this. Of course I remember Krista's epic monologue, which we'll get to in the end. I didn't remember this mirror gag at all. I didn't either. I didn't remember that.
Starting point is 00:31:42 And Krista, you look stunning. And I believe you're wearing a leather blouse. What I'm wearing, but where was the mirror? I don't remember that. All I remember is that Scrubs was the one time I was ever able to coerce you into having short hair, because you know how I love you with short hair, right? Yeah, but you know, watching this episode, I'm like, do I go with that haircut? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes, you say, watching this episode, I'm like, do I go with that haircut?
Starting point is 00:32:05 Yes, yes, yes. No, we're like, no. Yes, you say, Zachy? Yes. I really, I mean, you look great in all ways. You look so hot. Listen, I know Bill is here. Not everybody can pull off this hairstyle, and I think you look really good.
Starting point is 00:32:18 You look so hot in this episode. Is it choppy? Is that what you call it? Choppy. Choppy and piecey? Yeah, and a long, short haircut. It's like long, short. I thought I would.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Yeah. It's not longer than the shoulders, but it still has a little bit of a flip at the end, too. Oh, yes, Donald. Donald, don't boys like long hair? I mean, Casey has long hair. Yeah, but Casey has long hair because she likes long hair. It's not because it's not what I like. It's what she likes.
Starting point is 00:32:44 You know what I like. It's what she likes. Not everybody. I don't think everybody can pull it off, Krista, but you show in this episode that you can because I think you look great. You look amazing in this episode. Thank you. I didn't know a leather blouse was a thing, but you look great.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Thank you. I remember that mirror thing, and this is what was cool about having a show with Fantasies, is we were trying to reprise the mirror thing from the pilot. And then we knew we had to give everybody the backstory kind of from the whole season. So we could blow it up at the end and we just did it by having them all talk to you in the mirror really fast.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Yeah. So you knew Donald and Carlo were fighting. You knew that you hooked up with Krista, Johnny C's wife. And we knew, you know, that you and Sarah still had some shit going on, so we tried to just get it all out there quick.
Starting point is 00:33:28 So you're saying as a writing device, you kind of wanted to brief the audience on, here's where we're ending the season, right? Here's all the things that we're going to blow up at the end, some of which we aren't going to talk about a ton in this episode. Right. And so you have to, Bill, when you're writing, I think I know the answer, but just for people that are aspiring writers out there of TV shows, you kind of also have to remember like what the audience knows and what they don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:53 And even if they're an avid viewer, they may have missed a week. So is there a little bit of an onus on you to just kind of get everyone in a headspace of knowing what's about to happen? There used to be. There used to be. It's changed with streaming television and binging, and now people do things that they put, and I love it because I'm a fan. They'll put something in one episode
Starting point is 00:34:12 and never mention it again, and it'll come up in episode five, and if you're a fan, you're like, whoo, because that's binge watching. Right. And when network TV used to exist, they used to tell you, your most frequent viewer
Starting point is 00:34:23 watches one out of every three episodes. I told you. I told you Bill told us that. I told you Bill told us that last episode with Shay, and you guys were fucking clowning me because you were saying that I didn't watch it. I would lie to people. But Bill told us that back in the day. Your most frequent. The person that comes up to you and says, I fucking love your show has maybe seen four episodes.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Yeah, so I was like a huge fan. The network used to say a huge fan, if you did 22 episodes, you'd say a huge fan probably saw eight of them that season. Wow, I didn't know that. And then more than, well, that's when, remember, that's when your audience would be 10 to 15 million people. people and you'd be like oh we have four million that watched them all and then six million that watched uh 10 episodes and then a few million that watched like three or four you know and so it's funny when i think back to as a kid to shows i loved like let's just to pick one cheers i i saw a fraction of episodes of cheers i you know like so i i guess i as i think about it i i i am that i was that way too and it was that sort of viewing.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Yeah, and we're TV fans. It ended up in this business and that was us. And now that ethos is gone. Now you assume with these streaming shows that people that are watching them are binging them if they like them and you don't have to make reference to anything you've done in episodes before. So yeah, we always felt the burden to catch people up. And Bill, another question is where was your head out when we got here? I don't remember. And I wonder if you do how we, how we were doing in the ratings. Were you, were you confident we
Starting point is 00:35:56 were going to get another season? Um, well, yeah, we were, we, at this point we were a very successful show and, uh, uh, I was even expecting us to be on after Friends, which we were the next year. And so we were just trying to blow everything up because we had outlined a year to get through their internship, and then we wanted to go, let's not repeat it next year. Let's blow it all up. Let's do them thinking that they're becoming doctors,
Starting point is 00:36:24 but remind people what's still out there elliot still has a thing for jd jordan whether she wants to admit it or not is still in love with dr cox uh he um is obsessed with carla for his own narcissistic reasons carla and turk are considering getting serious in their relationship you know all that stuff i have to admit you something i have to admit something to you very embarrassing after 20 years i had forgotten that and when and when when krista says at the end admit that you still have feelings for jd i i personally got excited for jd i was like she likes me still like i had forgotten because sarah does such a good job uh elliot sarah elliot does a good job of totally seeming like she's over it like and and obviously i know where it goes in the end of the show but when when you said that and sarah gave a look like you just outed
Starting point is 00:37:10 me i was like i was like happy for me jd well you know it's so weird man tv and the fandom and you guys decide what we do in many ways with your performance because we did that pizza clock episode with you and Sarah because we said we don't want to do Will There, Won't There. So Turk and Carla are going to be the couple that's together for the whole duration of the show. Will There, Won't There will be Dr. Cox and Jordan
Starting point is 00:37:36 and JD and Elliot will have them hook up now and run the relationship fully through its course and then we'll never be back there again. But the second we did it, people wanted it and wanted to track it. It became inevitable. You guys had chemistry. People love it. I mean, I want that. I mean, I guess I'm the typical viewer. I love a will they or won't they. I'm a sucker for that. Yeah. It makes for great television. You guys, I didn't realize that Cox jordan were the will they or won't they until this episode really when you see that jordan really does have feelings for him yeah that was
Starting point is 00:38:11 such a vulnerable moment where she you know she first she thanks him like yo dude first of all thank you for not pressuring me into having to you know uh go into this thing tomorrow and speak up for you i truly appreciate that and then his response and her face and reaction to it all when he says it was a gut punch right yeah it was like well you could feel her pain you know what i mean you could feel the pain like she was with you know she jordan truly you know as much as she frunched, she still loves this guy. And he's playing it. It's clear that he loves her later on, but he's playing it at this moment like, I know why you're here. He's oblivious.
Starting point is 00:38:54 He's aloof. He's a moron also for it, too. You know what I mean? You got to get to, listen, if somebody shows up over and over and over and over again for a booty call dude wake up and smell the flavor man this shit is real right for the first time for the first time we see jordan being vulnerable there right christian i mean she's like you're like sitting even your body language i know i feel small yeah and you've got a blanket over you you know whereas you've been all this this sexually confident woman who's talking shit you're curl i thought it was a good acting moment for you as well you were kind of curled up and and you had a blanket over you and you were you were vulnerable
Starting point is 00:39:29 because you were you were catching feelings as they say but when when he said let's shake you know shake it up and she said so you want me to shake it up that's when it was like oh shit what has he done he has no idea he has no idea what he just did. Yeah. I liked the scene with Sarah and Krista that Donald just pointed out because it's, it's cool when a writer that something happens serendipitously that you didn't mean to set it up, but we had done all these booty calls. And then we had Jordan say sex is for making babies and revenge. And that's it. And then Sarah, then Sarah says,
Starting point is 00:40:05 I don't think you're getting a lot of revenge on Dr. Cox by showing up and servicing him, you know, while he watches sports center. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? And to me, I had forgotten it and your face did it too.
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Starting point is 00:44:15 that everything that Rob Mastro says is funny and we're constantly being like, you know, we teased him a lot while we were shooting the show and now when we go back and we watch the episodes, like every single thing he does makes us laugh, including in this episode. He has a lot of funny stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:31 When you're asking Dr. Wen, when you and Carl are asking Dr. Wen for help, and he's in the background doing all this stupid stuff. You remember that? Yeah, and I smacked the glass on his face. And he's like, it didn't hurt. It didn't hurt. It didn't hurt.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Oh, yeah? It hurt this time? Also, I think he speaks monosyllabically. The Todd did bad? The Todd did bad. The Todd did bad? Still referring to himself in third person, and Turk very upset with him. The Todd did bad.
Starting point is 00:45:04 As a matter of fact, the Todd did very very bad. Very bad, yes. But you know what, Bill? I noticed in this show, there are a thousand one-line funny, funny jokes. Everyone has these hysterical
Starting point is 00:45:19 one-liners. I was trying to write them down and there were too many. Everyone has a funny thing to say aloma has the best one to me uh you didn't hear that you didn't hit you didn't hear that no but jesus did jesus and then she sings and then she sings the song from uh the opening from white man can't jump just to walk with sanity i also love that because i i don't think we had any song chosen and just it's one of the most fun things for me you know on the show or the amount of stuff that were left into the hands of the actors and actresses so i know she just picked that and started singing it which was fantastic i believe aloma was a religious woman, right? Yeah, we did
Starting point is 00:46:06 bet that at some point, but I know we wanted her to be from the start. I know the character was, but I think that, as I recall, Aloma Wright is, was, so maybe she knew that from church or something. I don't know. You've got to have her on the show, by the way.
Starting point is 00:46:22 We want to have her on our show. Laverne again? You mean Laverne again? We want to have her on the show, by the way. We should have her. We want to have her on our show. Laverne again? You mean Laverne again? We want to have her on our show. We've discussed already bringing her in the second season. She's lovely, man. She's fun, too. I forgot what a big present she was. We're going to have Rob on.
Starting point is 00:46:36 By the way, it's funny, Bill. I don't know if you remember. You sent out a mass email to the whole cast about doing some event, and everyone was like, I'm down, I'm down, I'm down. And then Ken Jenkins was like, oh, good to hear from you. I'm moving, way too busy. And I was like, oh man, we were going to ask him to come on the podcast
Starting point is 00:46:53 but I'm a little nervous now that Ken's going to blow us off and my heart won't be able to handle it. The thing that's going to make me happiest is when you ask him to do it next year and he's still miraculously moving. You just get the same email. Oh, Zach.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Thank you, Zach. I'm moving, but now's a bad time. I'm moving. I know you're still moving. It's a long move. It's a long move.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Yeah. We want to have Rob on who else should we have on a Loma? Um, I want to have, um, we were talking about having all the stand-ins on and like a group one Deontay said to me the other day he was like listen when you guys get to the one
Starting point is 00:47:30 with the chimps and they're all dressed up as doctors you gotta call in or whatever it is because I've got a great story for that moment and he told me the story and it is amazing don't take it from him I'm not going to take it from him.
Starting point is 00:47:46 I'm going to wait. Because you've got to do that. And then you also, I believe, if I'm not mistaken, that Deontay, I see him a lot when people do the clip of Neil Flynn saying his actual name. And then Deontay, I think, walks by and goes, hey, Tony, right at the end of it. So he's the reason that people don't believe that the janitor is Glenn Matthews. Oh, really? Really?
Starting point is 00:48:07 Yes. So Glenn Matthews is his real name? Glenn Matthews is his real name. Well, you heard it right from Bill's mouth, guys. Glenn Matthews is his real name. So he just lied to Deontay's character and said he was Tony. Yes, and we decided his name was Glenn Matthews because he was the janitor on Clone High and introduced himself as Glenn. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Ah. Nice. We had Neil on. I don't know if you heard that. I did. It was hilarious, and we really kind of stumbled into a really good TV show, Bill, that we'd love you to produce about a space janitor. Dude, this is a great idea. It's a great idea.
Starting point is 00:48:42 And by the way, I will never waver. Bill, you don't want one of your fellow fancy showrunners to steal Space Janitor. We're giving it to you. Space Janitor. Bill, don't say I never gave you anything as a present. You're getting the rough treatment for Space Janitor. It's a multi-camera in front of a couch, Bill, in space. How can you beat that?
Starting point is 00:49:07 Space Janitor. a multi-camera in front of a couch bill in space how can you be a space janitor and then the other one i was gonna hit up about uh sam lloyd rip is the janitor and sam is a legal custodian custodian yeah oh that's a great one i also like we stumbled into a thing in that neil episode by the way neil's talking about how he's finally developing something on his own because he's always been in other people's stuff and and he's now collaborating with someone, developing something. And I'm just sitting riffing jokes with him for an hour and a half with Donald. I was like, I feel like we could come up with 10 shows because he's so quick-witted. The other one we stumbled into was a classic multicam sitcom, but it's a castle, and it takes place with old-school medieval royals. with old school medieval royals.
Starting point is 00:49:48 So you just do classic multicam sitcom jokes, but they're in medieval times. It's the Game of Thrones sets. Yes, it's the Game of Thrones, but it's a sitcom. I'm in, Bill. I'm in. I'll do eight of ten. Right. I still want to see you guys in some kind of Spies Like Us, you know. Dude, I know you don't.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Lethal Weapon, some kind of version of that. Listen, we were talking when we had Scott Foley on how we really need you to pull a J.J. Abrams and start directing giant tentpole movies because what's his name, Greg Grunberg? I heard that one of you guys. Yeah, he's getting in all these Star Wars movies, man. We need you to direct your big Temple movie so Donald and I can be in it. Yeah, Bill.
Starting point is 00:50:30 And Krista too. By the way, my wife who just said, yeah, Bill, this is the reality of my life. My wife should be somebody that would be in all of my shows and yet she's only in the ones that she picks as that she deems worthy of her time and effort so much so that i will occasionally and it shall remain nameless go there's a really
Starting point is 00:50:52 thing would be really helpful you know if you did this part in this little thing and she's going uh has the script changed at all since the last time i read it and i'm like no but you're still no but you're still my wife i feel like she's like pass billy would always do that like the first draft of of krista's lines in the show would be they'd be good to be funny and then like on the day she'd show up like with bill and like they had both just been working together and krista would have like a whole new pass it was like a krista pass uh my wife was on the show she had the ability that we didn't to go bill punch the scene up please my wife was on the show uh cougar town and i'm only telling the story we'll get back to this show one of my favorite things i only stayed on that
Starting point is 00:51:41 show for uh three of its um six years i went and did other stuff. And I remember telling Krista, I'm like, look, I, you know, there's other shows I want to do. There'll be different showrunners and all that other stuff. And, but I love you. And, and she's like, Oh, she took it so well that I was like, Oh wow, that went better than I thought. And then the next year, like with their first episode, I was working on a different show. When I came home, there was a script on my pillow
Starting point is 00:52:06 with her lines highlighted. And just like she had just written things like change, beat, punch up, change. Nope. No, but Bill had told me, Bill said to me, you know, I'm only going to run it, you know, these three years. And then it's going to go. I just want you to know that going in. I'm like, no problem.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Got it. No problem. And then it was really the week you left. Yeah. It was immediately like, you're like, this works for me fine because you'll still do whatever I want you to do, which is how our life works. I love it. I would watch this shit out of this sitcom the the real life adventures of bill
Starting point is 00:52:45 and crystal i really liked uh i don't know why it made me so happy and take it back to the episode of you uh donald you zach and uh sarah all coming in on that first day being because it made me it felt real because i know it was the last one we shot, and I got nostalgic because you were like, can you believe it's our last day? Do you know what I mean? And it felt very last day of school, and I looked at that. I watch these shows with an odd combination of pride, nostalgia, and then, you know, the old being a writer that goes, oh, man, I wish we had done that differently, or I wish I had fixed that or whatever. But that moment specifically made me remember what a gift it was
Starting point is 00:53:30 to have you guys all there and be so tight and lovely and fun to hang out with in real life. It just made me happy. I remember feeling excited because I think we all knew how well the show was doing at the time. And we made it to the last episode. Was this the 23rd episode of the season? Did we do 24?
Starting point is 00:53:53 Might be 24 the first year. It was 124, yeah. Yeah, we did 24. Well, we did 23 episodes that year, not including the pilot. And I remember being like, holy cow, we're a hit. A lot of things in my life are changing now. You know what I mean? I can't believe it. As an actor, I did it. I fucking did it. All my friends from home, you know, were watching my television show like it was the Cosby show. You know what I mean? Like it was a different world or whatever it was. You know what
Starting point is 00:54:22 I mean? We came on after Frasier. You know what I mean? Everything was really awesome at that moment. And so when I watched the scene, I remember feeling great about it, but when I watched the scene, I had the biggest smile on my face. And it's the opening of the show too. And you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:54:38 But I had such a huge smile on my face because I remember the feeling of it's a success i'm a part of something successful i'm a part of something that people really like and i really enjoy the people that i work with and uh yeah so you know yeah we were i agreed on we were being genuine that moment is the three of us as close friends hugging and being like holy shit happened. We just did 24 episodes of a show that's popular. And, you know, there was, there didn't need to be much acting there. That was, that was, that was very meta, very genuine. Well, that's what I got out of this, man.
Starting point is 00:55:14 The gift of it. And there's two things I wrote down was one, like how great Chris was to have see you in it because not only are you my wife, but you're so good, you know, and so funny and vulnerable and such a badass in this. I loved that. And then the one thing I wanted to say too, is my only other thing I wanted to reference with you guys, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:34 so there's weird parts of the narrative, like how you guys keep trying to disprove that Neil was a figment of the imagination and you'll never, ever bend me. He was a figment. He didn't talk to anybody. I don't care what you think you saw. But like one of the other narratives, which was so interesting, was, you know how Judy and I, you know, she would always come in
Starting point is 00:55:56 at the beginning of seasons and go, I can be, you know, funnier and goofier. And I would always be like, you're the emotional backbone of the whole show. And this was one of those episodes that we earned. It's never one or the other. You already talked about it. When Donald is pulling Zach over to him
Starting point is 00:56:15 when they were fighting in real life, one of my favorite things is Judy's in the background going, you got him, baby. You know what I mean? And immediately, which made me laugh. But then what we wanted to do in the show was a moment. Do you remember when you two and Sarah, even though he had been your patient for the entire episode,
Starting point is 00:56:32 none of you knew what Mr. Bober looked like. And then, of course, you hear Carla's voice, and she says, he's over here. And she knows that none of you know him, and she's chastising you without being judgmental and she was the only character on our show that could do that you know Dr. Cox to do that moment would yell at you and rub your faces in it Kelso could never do it and you three it was so weird because you three were all kids to her still grown up you know what I mean yeah I think it's a good
Starting point is 00:57:02 example too I mean obviously we're doing it about the medical profession, but I think everyone can relate to just getting used to something and getting sort of cold to it. And again, it gets meta for the show too, because Donald and I can attest that then we got used to it. We were on a popular show and we had this awesome job and it wasn't until it's over and this many years back, we look back and go, god not only do we have a great job that we all love but we were all so close we all got along so well and no because you know what things become your new normal yes so it becomes your new normal that you don't treat patients the same way yeah i uh i always call it in writing because i'm never present enough and i'm trying to be more now is we used to call it a don't know how good you got it disease do you know what i mean because then then we're all
Starting point is 00:57:51 off doing other jobs and other shows and remembering how great those experiences were and not saying that we didn't all enjoy them but in the moment i was never walking around going hey i don't know if i'm ever gonna work on a show that I'm proud of with these people I love and would want to spend time with forever and stuff again. So I should suck in every moment. You know what I mean? Do you, um, you've worked on nine zillion shows since scrubs. Is there, has there been another, um, we'll exclude Cougar town cause your wife was on it.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Has there been another that you, um, that you feel that you had anywhere near as close to as much fun on uh the only thing that is close to tell you the truth was spin city because this way you guys are talking was my first experience and it had this very weird thing that we can all hope for which is somebody that is a idol of yours growing up turns out to be exactly as cool as you would want them to be in real life you know and that's who mike fox was and so to grow up watching his shows and his movies and then he's respectful to me and kind and great and so that was fun but i didn't leave there with lifelong friends the way i am with you donald you know judy sarah neil and by
Starting point is 00:59:04 the way and john and ken told me not to say this when he was doing my podcast, but Ken Jenkins too. By the way, did you go out into the city with Michael J. Fox? No, he was, when that show started, he was already sick. And one of the first things that, when I started that show, we were taken aside and Mike and Gary said, look, Mike's going to do 100 episodes in four years because he's sick, and we have to do some production things around it. Oh, I didn't know that you knew that early.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Yeah. But still got to – went to concerts and dinners and blah, blah, blah, and had some fun with him and stuff. I was just thinking how cool I would feel walking into a bar with Michael J. Fox. I would just – I'd be strutting like Donald and I in that, in that, in that fantasy where we're strutting down the hall. I'd have a pimp coat on for some reason. I love that you guys did that again,
Starting point is 00:59:52 but you changed outfits. Right. Cause he was working out. Cause at that time I had gotten, I was in really good shape. So I'm like, I'm the shirtless one this time. Well,
Starting point is 01:00:01 I think by the way, that's what friendship brings to a show. And, and Krista, this is you too the amount of stuff that you guys were generous enough and Krista from that you would actually say or do in real life um names you would call each other dynamics etc that made their way into the show and the lexicon could only happen because of how close everybody was of course and by the way you could still be writing it because if this show was in the modern era,
Starting point is 01:00:26 Judy would be the one who slid into my DMs and be like, why did you post that picture at Turk looking fat? Hey, I don't want to speak out of turn here, so if I'm wrong, we could cut this out and everything. But Bill, didn't you write on Friends the first season?
Starting point is 01:00:41 I did write on Friends the first season. Somebody got fired and so i came in it was me at the end but at the beginning at the beginning i came in and got to write on that show and it was such a joke heavy show and some amazing talented joke writers the main one being david crane who created that show went on to create episodes and uh he's just such a good just a good writer and uh I got to know Matthew Perry a little bit mostly because someone made the joke that at different points in time I looked like Matthew's uh fatter older brother skinnier younger brother fatter younger brother and then skinnier older brother all
Starting point is 01:01:21 depending on the two of us Krista uh by way, here's the worst story about Matthew Perry and why this is relevant. Tell them how I tricked you and how it became a huge issue in our life when Matthew Perry directed Scrubs. No, it's so inappropriate. That sounds good. That sounds really good. The fans want to hear.
Starting point is 01:01:41 That is not going to be told. Okay. Well, my imagination is even better my imagination better than it won't be my imagination is way probably more twisted than it was i'll tell a version of it so i was friends with matthew perry we were on the same lot but i was friends with him before he got friends and before i started doing drew carrey and we always used to play um we used to hang out all the time and we used to play paddle tennis together i loved Carey and we always used to play. We used to hang out all the time and we used to play paddle tennis together. I loved Maddie and we were always friends. I actually
Starting point is 01:02:10 dated a friend of his. Matthew and I were always good friends and we play softball together, et cetera. So Bill, the whole time since we started dating from a weekend said, did you ever fool around with Matthew Perry? And I said, no, we were just friends. And he goes, I can't imagine that, um, that you were just friends. Cause you know, I can't imagine being friends with him for six years and different times being single and not once fooling around. So, so I said, no, we were just friends. No, no, no, no, no. And then, um, and then Bill would see us together and, you know, we were really good friends and I would say, see, we're really good
Starting point is 01:02:50 friends. He goes, I don't, I still don't believe you at all. And the week that Matthew Perry was directing Scrubs, the first morning, you know, I made you drive to work with me. I, yeah. And I normally don't allow Bill to drive to work to me because he wants to with me because he talks all the time. And I just like listening to Howard Stern. So and he can't, he keeps turning the volume down to chat about nonsense. So I don't let him drive to work with me. But I was first up, which, you know, it was early in the morning. And Bill said, Do you think it's gonna feel awkward for Matt Perry to direct you since you guys fooled around and I said no it's gonna be fine and I pulled the car over and went yes
Starting point is 01:03:35 you know what you know what I did I let it sit for like a year before that having not brought it up and then I went super cash I might would be fun today hey be weird with him directing you since you guys fooled around she's like no it's not a big deal you're so early yes oh my god he built you did the long play with that play and i really stuck to my guns and it was such a little thing. But he got me. It was too early in the morning. Seven years of lies.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Bill laughed the entire way for the rest of the drive. It made me so giddy. I was just going through all the lies in my head. It made me so happy. All right. We have a fan waiting, and we're going to go to break first. And then also, when we're done with the fan, I want you to tell the story about Bill, when you came across George Clooney leaning against Krista's trailer.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Oh, I don't like that at all. Let's go to break. We'll be right back. A new kind of daily podcast from Hello Sunshine. Hosted by me, Danielle Robay. And me, Simone Boyce. Every weekday, we're bringing you conversations about culture, the latest trends, inspiration, and so much more. I am so excited about this podcast, The Bright Side. You guys are giving people a chance to shine a light on their lives, shine a light on a little advice that they want to share. Listen to The Bright Side on America's number one podcast network, iHeart.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Open your free iHeart app and search The Bright Side. Hi, this is Shannon Doherty, host of the new podcast, Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty. You may know me from, let's see, 90210, Charmed, Mallrats, Heathers. You probably also know me from my stage four cancer diagnosis and sharing that journey with so many of you. There's something so authentic about a podcast. It's me connecting, me talking raw in the moment. That's what my goal is to give you, to talk about why I feel that cancer to a certain extent is a gift, what my responsibilities are as a person with
Starting point is 01:05:46 cancer, because I think that there's something so much bigger than me. And to be honest, I'm still trying to find out what that is. And maybe together, we'll find it. It's going to be a wild ride. So I hope that you all tune in. Listen to Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey, my name's Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose. I just had a great conversation with Michael B. Jordan, and you can listen to it right now. Michael is known for his performances in both film and television. His breakout role was in Fruitvale Station, playing Oscar Grant,
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Starting point is 01:07:06 Imagine you ask two people the same exact set of seven questions. I'm Minnie Driver, and this was the idea I set out to explore in my podcast, Minnie Questions. This year, we bring a whole new group of guests to answer the same seven questions, including actress and star of the mega hit sitcom Friends, Courtney Cox. You can't go around it, so you just go through it. This is a roadblock. It's going to catch you down the road. Go through it. Deal with it. Comedian, writer, and star of the series Catastrophe, Rob Delaney. I shouldn't feel guilty about my son's death.
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Starting point is 01:08:19 And Joelle is going to bring in, Joelle, who are our guests, our guests, singular or guest plural today? Singular guest, Emily. Emily is in the house! Hi, Emily. Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Emily!
Starting point is 01:08:37 That's my best Oprah. Are you wearing scrubs, Emily? Emily appears to have a stethoscope. Emily, can you hear us? Can you hear us? But Dan has messed up again, and we can't hear Emily. Emily, can you hear us? If you need anyone
Starting point is 01:08:51 for your mediocre mixing services, I recommend... Stop it. I'm kidding. I love Dan-el. I love Dan-el. Dan, you're the best. I'm going to even fucking sing the song for you.
Starting point is 01:09:02 You're the best. Around. No one in the world can keep you down down I just want to give a shout out if you're starting a podcast and would like to only be able to hear some of your guests I can't recommend highly enough you're hating she's connecting to audio
Starting point is 01:09:18 Daniel's laughing, Joelle's just shaking her head judgmentally at Daniel, it makes me happy in the meantime, Bill have you ever seen the air freshener that somebody made of me? Oh, my goodness. What does it smell like? It smells like Appletinis. Yes. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 01:09:34 I would like to talk about the fear factor conversation because we mentioned fear factor on this show. And at some point in filming Scrubs, we developed Scrubs Factor. Right. And we had a bunch of, you know, and anyone could be a part of Scrubs Factor as long as you were on in the Scrubs cast or crew. Yes. And I remember someone eating hot sauce off of another person's foot. Franklin's foot. After a full day of work. Yes.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Yep. And I remember another one was eating pig's feet. Yeah. A whole jar of pickled pig's feet. And each time, by the way, Randall would have rounded up anywhere from two to 500 bucks, you know, so it'd be quick cash. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Listen, I'm going to tell you something right now. As an African-American man, that shit wasn't hard. Scott Harris was the one that did that, who was another African-American male. Yeah, Scott went for the pig's feet and won the cash. Yeah, he got the cash, and everybody was like, eat the pig's feet. And let me tell you something right now. That ain't shit. That's the easiest thing to do in the world.
Starting point is 01:10:47 So in your childhood, when you were growing up, you would eat pickled pig's feet? No, so all right, so listen. This is where soul food came from, all right? Little education. When slavery was happening, the slaves weren't given the choice meat. So you wouldn't get the, the loin or the,
Starting point is 01:11:05 or anything like that. You'd get the intestines. And that's where, uh, that's where, uh, chitlins comes from. And you didn't get the,
Starting point is 01:11:12 you wouldn't get the, the meaty part. So you would get the hooves and the feet and everything like that. So that became soul food later on. So what you're saying is that Scott Harris hustled us. He acted like it was a big deal. I'm saying he acted like it was gross and then he wolfed him down. Right.
Starting point is 01:11:27 And then afterwards he came up to me and was like, man, that wasn't shit. That was the easiest $500 I've ever made. On the other hand, on the other hand, by the way, there's nobody that can get me near Franklin Godbetter's toe. There's no way. With hot sauce on it. They had to suck the hot sauce off his big toe after a day of work.
Starting point is 01:11:46 After a day of work. Another one was, wasn't there something about spending an hour inside a closed morgue drawer? It was a night. You had to go, you had to sleep at night in a closed morgue drawer. And no one ever took that up. That was one.
Starting point is 01:12:01 That's a pretty advanced one. What about the young intern? He became a paparazzi now, and I believe he – Paparazzo, Donald. Paparazzo. The singular is paparazzo. Thank you. He became a paparazzo, and I believe now he's a downer.
Starting point is 01:12:18 He has a brain tumor, but he was one of our interns. Wow, great story, Donald. And did he paint his face with like marker or something like that and had to keep it on for i can't i can't remember that i can't remember that person and now i feel sad and now yeah dude are you sure this was scrubs it might have been homie spumoni it was definitely scrubs i forget the young man's name but uh i remember it was was like he had to do face painting for the day and something and keep it on. No, it wasn't even face painting. It was like Sharpie.
Starting point is 01:12:51 He had to put Sharpie on his face. And he did it, and he had it on for like a week or something like that. It was something ridiculous. Let's get back to the episode for a second. Hold on. And then last one. And then last one. Mike Schwartz trying to eat 12 Krispy Kreme donuts and failing.
Starting point is 01:13:05 Bill, I get a hug from Dr. Cox at three minutes into the episode. Granted, it was a sarcastic hug. It's a sarcastic one, yeah. I wanted to point out that even Scrubs Wiki mentions that J.D. does get a Dr. Cox hug in the season finale. We felt it never counted, and we went back to it because it was sarcastic almost immediately. The other time I laughed out loud when I go, careful, tiger. I wish people would call me tiger.
Starting point is 01:13:33 Tiger. Also, were those Johnny C's shades, man? Oakleys, we always talk about Johnny C's Oakleys. I want to tiptoe around these Oakleys because Johnny C listens to this podcast while he works out. And I don't want him throwing the weights down on the ground. Just to start it off, John, you are ripped in this episode, man. Yes. Let's first give him compliments.
Starting point is 01:14:00 First of all, let me just say, I don't know how old were you in your 40s when we started this, in your 30s when we started this. Whatever it is, it's working, dog. And I wish right now at 46, I looked like you did in this episode of Scrubs. Holy cow, dude, you are ripped. That being said, what the fuck was up with them glasses, dog? Glasses! All right, I'm not going to say anything, but I can't imagine a scenario that, A, I said,
Starting point is 01:14:30 let's not shoot this scene until we get those glasses that I saw a dude wearing on the beach in Santa Monica. Or, B, that our wardrobe and props people laid out. Those is one of the choices for his sunglasses. But more power to him for having them. Those are definitely Johnny's. We've discussed them before. I think they were his go-to Oakley's back in the day. But why orange, dude?
Starting point is 01:14:53 Why orange? They look like they belong on a guy on a jet ski. That's all I know. Well, they look like my mountain biking glasses. Yes. They're not for regular wearing around. They look like those night vision sunglasses that you wear when you're driving to make it so that you can see the road better i laughed out loud uh 12 33 when uh i invited him to dinner he goes yeah and then he goes
Starting point is 01:15:19 he goes together i thought this was going to be like a gift certificate. Oh, you mean. Oh, I said, can I buy you dinner? And he goes, sure. I go, really? And he goes, oh, you mean together? He goes, yeah, absolutely. And you go, that's great because I get off in like five minutes.
Starting point is 01:15:39 He's like, oh, whoa. Oh, whoa, whoa. I thought this was a gift certificate type situation. No, no, no, no, whoa. I thought this was a gift certificate type situation. No, no, no, no, no. That's pretty funny that he thought that I was going to be like, here's a gift certificate for you to have dinner. Or you could just tell me where you want to eat, and I'll pick it up and have it dropped off.
Starting point is 01:16:02 Now, let's talk about Colin Hay for a second, because Colin Hay's first time being played on the episode on the show was here. My, my, my. It's a beautiful world. Beautiful song, beautiful world. And then he's actually in the season two premiere. Bill, how did Colin Hay come about? Was it through Krista? Huge, huge.
Starting point is 01:16:21 I get to speak for a second before Krista, and then she has to talk, which is not enough shout-outs for my wife. Zach, you were involved, and Neil was involved. We give her lots of shout-outs on the show for what it's worth. Yeah, no, I know, but I mean, I have it. My wife has always been such a key person in me in picking music for my shows and having a taste in it that kind of defines tonally what the show is. And she had taken me to see Colin Hay, a bunch at Largo even before our show came out.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Go ahead, Krista. I'm sorry. I interrupted. Yeah. So we had, we had seen him at Largo and I loved him and I knew that he was, his music was absolutely the right tone for scrubs.
Starting point is 01:16:59 And so we used a few of Colin's songs on the show. I love him. And then did you know he could act? Because I think he had been on the Larry Sanders show, right, Bill? I mean, how did you come up with the idea to put him in the episode? If you, again, it's Krista, but if you have a chance to see Colin at Largo, it was, you know, half music and half him going, I sold out Wembley Stadium with a bunch of dudes and now I'm playing here for 45 of you, you know, and then just making
Starting point is 01:17:35 jokes at his own expense. And I remember he used to say, all my old mates said I should move to Australia, open a bar called the Down Under in Sydney, come out every Saturday at midnight and play that song. And I'd be a billionaire, which is probably true. You know what I mean? And then he just tell jokes and stories about that time of his life. So funny. Do you want to hear what else is funny about Colin Hayes? So my uncle for two years used to produce Saturday Night Live. And I used to go in high school to watch the musical acts at like six o'clock on a Saturday. And then Colin Hay, Men at Work, played Saturday Night Live. And then we hung out with him afterwards. He was a perfect gentleman, wasn't he? But we all
Starting point is 01:18:19 hung out with him afterwards. And then when he did the show he said to me your uncle gave me a chance and was so kind to me on saturday night live and it kind of came full circle and he was um excited to see me again and that's cool that's cool i remember going to see him yeah i went with you dude for those of you don't know largo is a small very small music venue it's since changed they probably made it bigger. But back in the day when we were going, I don't know, it would hold maybe 100 people. Yeah. I think less than that.
Starting point is 01:18:50 Yeah, if that. Less than that. Or maybe 60. And it was a bar and they served food. And lots of comedians would be there and musicians would be there. And it was a really cool community. And I hadn't heard Colin since he was in Men at Work when I was a kid. And then he got up and we'd just play his songs acoustically,
Starting point is 01:19:08 just him and a guitar. And it was so beautiful because his voice is so incredible. And he would do some covers of Men at Work songs and then he would do a lot of his own songs, his new songs, like Beautiful World that's in this episode. And I just don't think I'll ever get over you, which I ended up putting in Garden State. But I remember that he was very funny in the episode,
Starting point is 01:19:28 and I just wondered where you got the idea to actually put him physically in the show. But there it is from Largo. He has some good ones. I just don't think I'll ever get over you. I drink a coffee every morning. Comes from a place that's far away.
Starting point is 01:19:48 In the history of your podcast, people are going to be like, when did it go downhill? And they're going to go, when Zach and Donald decided just to have it be them singing favorite songs of theirs every week. That's kind of what it is already. Although I always duck out because Donald has such a sultry, beautiful voice.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Such a good voice. I got to say, since we're doing, oh, go ahead, Donald, sorry. I do love me some Colin Hay, though, man. I just didn't go back on him. He's such a lovely man as well. Yes. I didn't know if we're at the show thing yet that I can give my both positive and bone-chilling reaction to Donald already said,
Starting point is 01:20:25 you know, when, when Dr. When Johnny C says, once you stir, stir some things up, when she comes to that table of all you happy people at the end and decides to rip our show apart for the next year, it gave me such glee both to watch how it was performed and how it affected
Starting point is 01:20:41 every relationship. But also because you guys are also close in many ways to your, you know, your spirits and your personas affected every relationship, but also because you guys are all so close in many ways to your spirits and your personas in real life, it gave me chills because I've been one of the people sitting at that table before with my sons when my wife comes in and says things like, let me talk to you guys about your behavior yesterday at Thanksgiving. When you just get small and just immediately have the, by the way, I think Zach's voiceover says, Oh, but the, uh,
Starting point is 01:21:09 I've had so many of those and it was so cool to watch you do it. My love. You were so good. Yeah. You did a great job with that. That monologue. Do you remember, um, did you work a lot on that or did you just wing it? I mean, obviously you memorized it. You know what you guys probably don't remember is that that scene was shot on a wednesday and we did drew carrie on a tuesday night and for some reason there was a mess up and i didn't get the script um i was doing drew carrie late and i didn't get the script for the what that monologue was till midnight and i was so
Starting point is 01:21:42 mad at bill i was like why didn't they deliver me the script early? But it builds like it was out since seven. So I was insane. And then so I had to learn it. And Drew went really late that night. I remember being so annoyed. And I was first up. So I had about five hours of sleep. And I didn't know it that well. And I'd only you know, I was in a regular show, I'd only done one or two episodes with you guys that season. No, this is like your fourth episode. Fourth, maybe not a lot, though. And I came in, I had this
Starting point is 01:22:13 monologue, and you guys, and I kept messing up the lines. And I started getting into a shame spiral. And it was Donald, you were like, you got this, you've already done it you've got it you were so kind to me donald you probably don't remember and i was like you were like take a deep breath you got it you've done it already you're just now getting into your head i was just telling you all of the stuff that they would tell me all year round. And I was fucking. He was just regurgitating all this shit people had said to him. By the way,
Starting point is 01:22:52 you know what part of it was too? My love is, um, uh, I remember because you were working on a show as a regular in which you had two tries to get it start to finish, you know, because it was multicam. And I remember all of us trying to tell you,
Starting point is 01:23:04 no, you've never done it the way you want from the beginning to the end, but you've done every part the way you want. You know what I mean? And we're going to cut it. It really made you upset. I remember that now. Yeah. But then we got it in one take. And then I also thought this single camera is different. Like I had to do a different way of having to learn things, but I, you know, and also it doesn't matter. I realized when you get there, no one cares that you're working on another show and you were up
Starting point is 01:23:30 till one in the morning. Everyone just expects you to know it and be great all the time. It was a good lesson for me. Also, that monologue was so good, I didn't want to mess it up. I think you did a great job. It was a really clever way
Starting point is 01:23:46 to end the season too Bill because you know you can't you have to have some sort of cliffhanger and the whole episode is that we're all working as a team and you've got this montage set to Colin Hay where we're all coming together and solving a problem it's like you can't end a season like that you've got to blow it up
Starting point is 01:24:02 and then I thought that was really clever how you had Krista just come in and just fucking destroy everybody. Dismantle it all. My favorite part was, and I wrote it down, apparently JD is very good in bed. That had not been discussed yet. Oh boy. No,
Starting point is 01:24:17 because we didn't see our love. Be careful. Be very careful. Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. Dude, you know how to make it uncomfortable. The characters. It was so good. That's what you say. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:30 These guys at Krista, they've already done a thing of joking around that I like watching you kiss other people, which I do not. I don't. No, don't. By the way, don't make that expression, even though people can't see this. Don't make the expression. Don't. Don't.
Starting point is 01:24:47 Don't. By the way, I'm a second away from sprinting up there for a stop hug. Bill, I don't think you're – you're not allowed out until 5. You're not allowed out until 5. That's true. That's a good point, Jack. I picture there's like a bike lock on the outside of the door, and Krista unlocks it at 4.59. It's a kryptonite.
Starting point is 01:25:05 You know what else? Changing the subject, that moment never happened. You can edit that out. I'm sure it's gone. I liked after you gave your speech, and I haven't given enough props to Johnny C and Ken. First of all, Johnny C's ability to make intense anger seem immediately real. I found myself intimidated even, and couldn't imagine what it was like,
Starting point is 01:25:27 you know, Donald, you and Zach had to do it all more than anybody to act in the face of that fury. Yeah. I mean, when he, oh my goodness,
Starting point is 01:25:34 it's so loud and so not TV anger that, and I contrasted that to, this was the beginning of one of the things, you know, when I say I watch the show the show and and dislike stuff and love other stuff uh ken jenkins as a man was so funny and not just the personified villain you know and one of the first things that got us there because he starts changing in the second year he goes to speak to john C. after that speech and does the biggest cartoon spin around. And it's so funny.
Starting point is 01:26:12 And I'm like, oh man, that dude is funny and we should let him be human and quirky and weird. I wish he'd come on the show, but he's always moving. No, he's still moving. He's still moving. Maybe he didn't rent a truck and he's just doing it by hand.
Starting point is 01:26:27 While we have you here, Bill, here's a question that all of the fans are asking us quite a bit. And I know it has a lot to do with schedule or anything like that, but if you could ever see another incarnation of Scrubs, what would be your dream
Starting point is 01:26:44 or your... If you had to do it, how would you like to see Scrubs revisited? Wow. Yeah. Getting right to it. Yeah. I love the characters so much. And I think one of the things that we tried to do on that show is it was an era in which on the sitcoms
Starting point is 01:27:07 i grew up with everybody stayed the exact same from episode one to episode 200 and i like to feel that people grew and aged and matured and so you know like it's it's at one point by the way zach and donald crystal were constantly pitching me that maybe we should just go shoot Dr. Acula, which would be fun, admittedly, the two of them making that movie. And I think it'd be hilarious. But, man, I'd love to see who J.D. was as an adult and a father and who Donald was with Judy and with their kids. And I just would want to visit with these people again. That's why I find the idea of doing a whole other series daunting,
Starting point is 01:27:53 but the idea of visiting with them and seeing where their lives are at and seeing how they react to medicine. I'll tell you the example for it is Real JD. Not many people know this, but the Real JD was a young cardiologist when we started the show. Then he became a heart surgeon and a cardiologist. And then he became so beloved by the interns and residents. He became a huge teaching figure and ultimately the CEO of the Kelso of the hospital. He runs the whole hospital of Kaiser in Los Feliz and in fact is running their COVID command center now. And the fact that he has gone from the beginning to that very same kind of patriarchal figure that you guys needed. I'd love to see JD and Turk doing that for other young people.
Starting point is 01:28:42 I would hope that they'd still love medicine. That's it. And Emily's here. Emily's here. Does it work, Emily? It is working. I am so, so sorry. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 01:28:52 Emily, it's not you. The only thing you missed, Emily. No, you're not worse than Sarah. Emily, Emily, Emily, Emily. I'm going to be honest with you. You are worse than Sarah. But we are still very excited that you are on the show. Sarah had two tries and messed them both up,
Starting point is 01:29:08 whereas Emily is just joining us for the first time. Emily, Emily, you blew it. But it's okay. I'm going to give you the speech that Bill gave me. I need you to come in here and bring the energy that you were going to bring the first time. Now that is a callback. That's a callback to Donald's first audition.
Starting point is 01:29:27 Oh, thank goodness. All right, go ahead, Emily. What's your question? You have Bill Lawrence, you have Krista Miller, Donald Faison, and myself. You got Zach Braff. Hi, everyone. And I or me.
Starting point is 01:29:37 Hi, Emily. Yeah, hi, Emily. All right, so I had, I didn't know that Bill and Krista were going to be on originally, so I changed my question a little bit. Okay. And since I think you guys are talking about the season finale, which talks about like all the impact that the characters had.
Starting point is 01:29:55 I'm sorry to cut you off. I'm sorry to cut you off. I have to cut you off. I'm sorry. You have a stethoscope on. Is that a stethoscope? Nope. This is my braid, but this is my name badge with my
Starting point is 01:30:06 skull. Okay. Are you a doctor or are you a nurse? I'm not. I'm a EMT phlebotomist combo. I'm calling from the office right now. I'm hiding in the break room. That's awesome. Thank you so much for all the stuff you do. I've got surgeries going on through the other door. Oh, my goodness. That is amazing. First of all, thank you very much. Oh, thank you guys. You guys inspired me. Oh, that's good to hear. And that's actually part of my question is I'm going to use the just because I'm not a doctor or a nurse yet.
Starting point is 01:30:39 So I'm just an EMT phlebotomist. But have you guys heard from other fans, any amazing stories where they said that you got your show inspired them? And that's for all four of you. I'll go first. Yeah. All the time. I will, I will encounter nurses and doctors and paramedics and EMTs who say scrubs was
Starting point is 01:31:03 the thing that, that got them into it. Some say they had no interest before and scrubs and the camaraderie and all the adventure made them want to do it. And then some say they were thinking about it and scrubs put them over the edge. But yeah, I mean, throughout my life, there's been lots and lots of people. And sometimes I'll be walking along the street and people will be like, they'll do a double take because they're excited to see me. And I go to talk to them. They're like, we're doctors. We just graduated med school and scrub is our favorite thing. So it's such a good feeling. I mean, the fact that we could have inspired anybody is a
Starting point is 01:31:39 really, really good feeling. I'm sure you guys have had the same experience, right? Absolutely. That's also why we did the podcast, we did the podcast also. This is, this isn't just for the fans of Scrubs. This is also for everyone out there in the medical community. You know what I mean? Just the respect and the love that we have for all of you guys is immense. And so, you know, when we, we were on a show that was a love letter to everybody in that community as well. And so, you know, when we were on a show that was a love letter to everybody in that community as well. And so this is all about y'all. So if it inspires anyone, if it makes anyone feel like they want to get into medical, it makes me happy that I was a part of something that, you know, has turned people's lives around.
Starting point is 01:32:23 You know, I didn't know what I wanted to do. you know, has turned people's lives around. You know, I didn't know what I wanted to do. Then I saw scrubs and now I'm a doctor or now I'm, you know, I work in the medical profession. So absolutely it happens all the time. And I'm very proud that I was on something like this that's reached out and touched so many people. What about you guys, Bill and or Krista?
Starting point is 01:32:44 I always, you know, well, Bill, if he sees a new doctor or has to get his tooth pulled, that's the first thing he drops right away. That comes out fast. Like he just gets it fast. You know, scrubs. i often have people um say to me doctors and and nurses will say that scrubs was the first show that they felt accurately portrayed what it's like to be an intern and a resident you know in terms of all the stories that you guys did and the and the reality of how hard it was now tiring etc and bill didn't the ama come out and say we were the most accurate show they they did that you guys did and the reality of how hard it was, no tiring, et cetera. And Bill, didn't the AMA come out and say we were the most accurate show? They did.
Starting point is 01:33:29 They said we're the most accurate medical show. And first of all, Emily, thanks for doing what you do. That's super cool. And secondly, you know, it's really weird. I'm sure we'll talk about all this stuff too on other podcasts if you're ever nice enough to have me and or Krista back or Emily back or on Emily's podcast. But when you're involved in creating something and it's been years, it's even presumptuous to call yourself an artist, you look at these things and you go, here's what I got right.
Starting point is 01:33:59 Here's what I got wrong. Here's what I wish I could fix. Here's what I wish I could change. got wrong here's what i wish i could fix here's what i wish i could change and the one thing that i always thought we got right top to bottom actors directors everybody else was because of the real jd said we're allowed to do as many jokes as we want as long as you make it clear how much the doctors and nurses truly care and how much they will give everything for patients. And the fact that the AMA this year, you know, however many years after we wrapped, 20-year anniversary of the start, whatever it was, asked all of you guys to do their graduations
Starting point is 01:34:36 since their graduations got canceled for all the new young doctors meant so much to me that you guys are still part of the lexicon of young people, you know, who aren't going into medicine anymore to be wealthy, like the old cliches. They're going into it to be of service and to do something really important. That's probably the best thing I'll take from this show. That's why it's so cool to talk to people like Emily. Hey, Emily, it seems like you have a lot of people in the room with you. Why don't you turn the thing around and let's see who's in there.
Starting point is 01:35:04 No, she got called into surgery. They were like, we need you. I have signs on the doors saying, do not disturb Emily. Let them come in. Let them come in. No, in my mind. Let them in. Let them in.
Starting point is 01:35:15 I had two doctors and a nurse just walk in. And they're like, guys, no. Are they out there in the hall right now? Are they in the hall right now? Tell them to come in. No, don't let them ruin her moment. Yes, Zach. I want to say hi. Dude, man. She'd be the freaking
Starting point is 01:35:28 queen of the freaking OR. Okay, guys. The Scrubs podcast wants to see you all. There's a lot of y'all. I was about to say. Hey, doctors. hey, nurses.
Starting point is 01:35:47 That's part of my clinic. That's very cool. In my mind, Emily, they were like, we need you stat. He's coding. And you were like, shut up. I'm on the podcast. Literally the fact that that hasn't happened yet. All right.
Starting point is 01:35:59 Do you have another question for us, Emily? I do. And it's a little sillier. Go ahead. Go. All right. So knowing how big of Les Mis fans you guys are. Except for Krista, go on. Except for Krista.
Starting point is 01:36:13 Or maybe musicals in general. Not me. Except for Krista. In any Broadway play or production, which character and which play? Oh. I would be Jean Valjean.
Starting point is 01:36:29 No, but I'm not getting excluded. I would be Jean Valjean, but I would do it in Paris because I would sing it all. Qui est moi? Pujo condom cet homme pour servitue. That's Les Mis in French. That's the only person I know that can sing
Starting point is 01:36:43 pieces of Les Mis in French. Donald, who would you be? If I could be anyone in any Broadway show, wow. You know, the one musical that I loved growing up was Mary Poppins, and we were very lucky to have Dick Van Dyke on Scrubs for one episode. So if I could be any character that he played on Broadway, I would love to be Bert from Mary Poppins. You'd kill it. You'd kill it.
Starting point is 01:37:09 I would love that. That would be amazing. I'd even do the fake accent and everything. I'd fuck up the accent on purpose. Oh, Mary Poppins. I wouldn't be there. Yeah, Krista, you would go if Donald started Mary Poppins. I would call you every day and be like, Krista, you would go if Donald started Mary Poppins. I really.
Starting point is 01:37:25 I would call you every day and be like, Krista, I got a ticket for you. Krista, didn't you come to my Broadway musical? Yes, you'd go for Donald. I did. I would go for Donald, but why are you guys pressuring me? Because Krista hates musicals. This would be one of those things where I'd pressure you, so I'd be like, yo, come on. Of course I would go for Donald.
Starting point is 01:37:42 I wouldn't. I'd be mad at him after. I'm probably too old to do it now. I'm not sure, but I always wanted to do Annie as Annie. And I'm not sure if it's too late, but maybe. Emily, see if Zach or Donald or Krista can finish this. Emily, one of my favorite lines from a secondary character on the show was, Nurse Roberts had to leave early to see her nephew in Pippin.
Starting point is 01:38:15 Well, who's he playing? Who's he playing? Pippin. Pippin. You know what I love about that, Bill? We talked about that on the show. It's that Nurse Roberts was offended that you would think her nephew would be anything but the lead. How could her nephew not be Pippin?
Starting point is 01:38:30 The show's called Pippin. She had an attitude like Pippin, bitch. If the show was Godspell, it would have been God. You know what I mean? It was a blend. God. God. Well, Emily, thank you.
Starting point is 01:38:47 We're going to keep you on because the show is ending. We've done the show. We've gone through it all. As Howard Stern always says, Krista, what does he say? He said, you've said it all. We've said it all. You've said too much. We've said too much.
Starting point is 01:39:00 We've said it all. I want to thank Bill and Krista because this was fun. We did a whole season, you guys. We did a whole season of Scrubs Rewatch Podcast. Congratulations, and everyone's loving it. Yeah, it's really fun. I want to thank Joelle and Daniel, too. Not Daniel after today, but they're both so kind to all of us.
Starting point is 01:39:20 I think Dan does not deserve thank you for today. No, I disagree. It was a debacle. It was a debacle. It was a debacle. I disagree with you, Zach. I disagree with you. I disagree, too. I'm going to tell you something right now.
Starting point is 01:39:29 You guys don't know this out there. Every Tuesday and Thursday, if it wasn't for Daniel and Joelle, y'all wouldn't hear such crisp recordings and great, hi, Larry. Look, if it wasn't for them, we wouldn't be here on your podcast radio thing, whatever it is that you listen to. So well said. Thank you very much. Listen, I will bump you up.
Starting point is 01:39:52 They're not talking again. Those guys are not talking. I fell asleep. Yeah, I fell asleep while you were doing that monologue. Listen, I want to thank these guys. They do a fantastic job. I want to thank everybody for listening. This has really been fun.
Starting point is 01:40:03 Donald and I thought this would be a fun little entertaining thing to do, but then COVID happened and it became our only job, and it's been so much fun. Such a great escape to be here with you guys. And hearing everybody's reaction to it has been a blast. So thank you. Thank you for Bill for making all of this happen. Thank you to Krista for so many things, including, as Bill said,
Starting point is 01:40:26 so much of the music that y'all love on Scrubs was chosen by Krista. So don't forget to tell your friends. Please spread the word. Don't forget to rate the show. Remember, like the Uber driver, five stars, five stars, because apparently that helps our standing in the ranks. And we're very competitive. We like to be high in the ranks.
Starting point is 01:40:44 We also want to thank high in the ranks. We also want to thank all of the crew members from this show and all of the directors who came on the show. Yes. You know, after this season, when this season ended, the tone was now set. And anyone who came in was now playing in this big arena that Bill, the directors, and Krista, and Neil created with the music and the show. The tone was set.
Starting point is 01:41:12 And so we want to thank the directors as well. We gave Neil a little more credit than he deserves there. I don't know who Neil is. Neil Goldman. He was one of the writers. She knows. Krista knows. It's just Neil.
Starting point is 01:41:23 By the way, on Twitter. I didn't do the music with Neil. I. I didn't do the music with Neil. I know you didn't do the music with Neil, but he did some of the music is what I was told. He counts. Neil counts every time he gets mentioned. Don't give him any credit. I love Neil Goldman, but he didn't do the music with me. Can we.
Starting point is 01:41:38 I love you guys. Donald, I love you. Zach, I love you. It makes me so happy to see you. Emily, I feel like we're tighter. My wife, I love you. It's so fun to get to work with you. I hope I love you. Makes me so happy to see you. Emily, I feel like we're tighter. My wife, I love you. It's so fun to get to work with you. I hope I get to do it again. But can we do a group happy 5678 to get out of the show? We can, and we're going to let Emily participate. And Joelle and Dan, you should turn
Starting point is 01:41:55 on your mic so you can participate. I know. I feel it's the last one of the year. I'm going to have to come up with a different gag next year. You are going to need a new gag, Bill, because we have merch coming. And as I said earlier, it's all inspired by Bill, 5678 and Stop Hug. You will soon be able to get a Stop Hug mug. I need one. Everyone's going to want to get that. When the world opens back up, we hope to tour the show and we'll convince Bill and Krista to come along for some fun adventures all over the world.
Starting point is 01:42:25 Thank you. We love you guys. And here we go. Ready? Five, six, seven, eight. I've got stories about a show we made. About a bunch of docs and nurses in a Canada who love me. I said here's the stories that we all should know.
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