Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - 203: My Case Study With Ken Jenkins

Episode Date: July 9, 2020

On this weeks episode, JD defies Dr. Cox's wishes and strives for success in a competition Dr. Kelso is running amongst the residence. In the real world, Zach and Donald are joined by Kelso himself, Ken Jenkins. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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How are you, Donald Faison? I am well. How are you? Well, you know, the world spins madly on. It does spin madly on, and at a furious pace, too. It just keeps going, and you just keep moving forward. And that's all you can do, really. You know what's past.

Hakuna Matata. Lion King says it best. What's in the can do, really. You know what's past. Hakuna Matata. Lion King says it best. What's in the past is the past. Let's talk about moving forward into the future and making it so that the past never, all the negative things I should say in the past, never repeat themselves. The planet spins and the world spins madly on. Joel, Dan, how are you guys? You know, I realize that when I log on, we usually just jump right into the show. And I never really get the opportunity to ask you guys, how are you doing?

How are you holding up? Joelle? It's good. I'm still inside. Sleep is a myth. There's no such thing as sleep anymore. Insomnia in full force. But other than that, you know, it's good.

I was able to leave the house. I went to a drive-in. You guys been to the Mission Hill Tiki drive-in? No. No. Listen, if you need to get out and you want to see a movie, that's the place to do it. They've got, like, all these old, like, burger joint stands around there. So you can, like, pick up some food through a drive-thru,

drive straight into the drive-thru. It's a bunch of billboards that are sectioned off and we saw a double feature of Jaws and Tremors. Nice. Well, Jaws, yes. Tremors, it was okay. It was okay. It's okay. Jaws,

however, still to this day, even though the shark doesn't look that real, it still works. Yeah. It's a good film. The whole opening the beach early, like the beaches are safe. Right, right, right.

Everybody. It's a very surreal rewatch in these modern times. Dan, how about you? How are you? I'm good. I'm well. I had to take my girlfriend to the airport this morning very early to help her brother get out or move out of college but she's doing a good

thing um and uh yeah so all good ready for a great show what's that line from when harry met sally you know i never take a girl to the airport because then they expect things out of you and then later on you're what they then later on then later on i never do i never do air traffic airport drops i don't i don't fuck with airport drops because then later on she says to you how come you never take me to the airport anymore you just say goodbye at home yeah i don't take to or pick up from airport as a rule Can you just say goodbye at home? Yeah, I don't take to or pick up from airport as a rule. My boy.

Okay, cool. I did it quite a bit when Casey and I first started dating. Now I'm like, you know what? I'll get you a car service. It'll be so much easier. I'd rather get you a really nice car service. He'll probably have mints. Right. And water and a clean car.

But Florence has a hang-up about it. She really finds it rude. So I have a feeling it's going to be changing because she thinks that it's bullshit. I'm telling you, once you stop doing it, she's going to ask you, how come you never take me to the airport anymore? I know. But see, LAX is so fucking far. I mean, I'm sure a lot of listeners may live closer to their airport than we do.

It takes like over an hour to get to LAX. It's a lot. It's a mission every time. And then you have to deal with the traffic of that long circle around. Hellish. You know what you do? I'm going to give everyone a little secret. Well, I shouldn't give my secret.

Never mind. Sorry. I was going to give people a life hack. I was going to give people of LA a life hack, but now I don't know if I should because they're all going to steal it and use it. Listen, just do it. You'll be a hero if you do it. All right.

You guys, don't tell anyone. I know that there's a preposterous amount of people listening right now, but don't tell anyone. This is just for you. Do not tell your friends. If you live in L.A. If you live in L.A. If you don't live in L.A. and you come here, you're not allowed to do this shit. This is only for the L.A. If you live in L.A. If you don't live in L.A. and you come here, you're not allowed to do this shit. This is only for the L.A.

When you're dropping off, you go to arrivals, not departures. There's never nearly as long a line at arrivals. Brilliance. And all you got to do is take the escalator up or down, whatever it is. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Now I regret telling everyone that. Are you a genius, Zach?

Hold on. Hold on. I regret this already. It's a mistake. It's a mistake. My life hack is ruined now. I feel like a lot of people already knew this life hack. No, they don't.

You don't do it. Did you know it? Yeah, absolutely. And when you get picked up, you go upstairs to freaking- To departures. To departures, dude. Yep. Yep. Yeah, man. I when you get picked up, you go upstairs to freaking – To departures. To departures, dude. Yep, yep. Yeah, man.

I never do that one. I never do that one. Uber – it was such a problem that Uber won't let you do it anymore. You can say, hey, will you drop me off at Arrivals? They'll say, no, we can't do that. They're going to give us a ticket if we do that. Oh, I didn't know it was like a ticketed thing. So don't get in trouble because of me.

Only Ubers get ticketed. Only Ubers get ticketed. If you're driving – if you're doing a service for a friend, that's a really good life hack. Oh, okay. There you go. Life hack, everybody. When you do it and it goes smoothly, I want you to smile and think of me. Should we get into the show?

Well, we have a very special guest today, Donald. I know. I'm really excited about it. That's why I want to get into the show as soon as possible. I can see that you're all geeked out. We never thought Ken Jenkins would come on the show. Not because he's difficult in any way.

I just didn't know if he'd know how to do the Zoom and the recording and all of that. But we're so lucky that his son helped him navigate it all. And is he here, Dan? Is he ready to come in the room? Ready to go. I'm kind of nervous, Donald.

I haven't seen him in a long time. I am so excited. Last time I saw him was when we did that thing at the Roosevelt Hotel. Yeah. Where I also, where Doesn't He Have Nine Kids happened also. In the same, at the same venue, not the same venue, but the same building. Doesn't he have like Nine Kids?

Casey said that about Donald in the bar, which was at the time was called Teddy's. I think it still is. And then we had sort of a Scrubs reunion event for, what was it for? I don't even remember. I don't know. And we were all there, same building. Same building. I love that bowling alley in the Roseville. And there's a cool little bowling alley. You ever visit LA?

Just after you've arrived at the airport and driven an hour? Are we going to ask him about ganja? Or should we not bring that up? I mean, I think, I feel like we can ask about it. If he doesn't want to talk about it, he doesn't have to talk about it. I know, but I mean, I I just wanted to pregame with you

if we're going to bring up his love of ganja. I'm just saying, man, he gave me a Kodak. Remember when Kodak film used to come in those little cases? The black canister thing, yeah. He gave me a canister full of seeds once, and it was like, when you plant these now. And I didn't plant them, and I look for this Kodak thing. It's somewhere lost in all of the moves that I've had since.

I don't know if they're still going to grow. But still, dude, they were like a lot of seeds, and he was like, you got to plant them all. And I was like, you got to plant. Wait, Dan's eyes got really big. Dan, will they still grow? The trivia question I want answered is who was high more often on set, Donald Faison or Ken Jenkins? I bet you it's Ken Jenkins.

Okay, let's go to the videotape. Okay, hold on. Here we go. Five, six, seven, eight. About a bunch of docs and nurses in a Canada who love to hate. I said he's got stories that we all should know. So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald. There he is. Hello, handsome. Waving your hands. Hello. There you is. Hello, handsome. Waving your hands.

Hello. There you are. Can you hear us? Can you see us? Hey, Zachy, how you doing? Hi, buddy. Good to see you. It's good to see you, Ken.

It's great to see you. Donald Paison. Hello, sir. Hello. We're so glad you're doing this, Ken. We really miss you, and we really wanted to have you on the show. Well, I'm glad you asked me. I'm glad to be here.

What's that Donald's got all over his face? It's his hair. You know, I couldn't grow it back in the day. Oh, that's just hair. That looks great, Donald. It looks good. It took me all pandemic to grow this. Now, listen, does that help your ball game?

No, my ball game is non-existent now. I now play golf. My golf game, it helps tremendously. I bet you're a wonderful golfer. I'm all right. I'm all right. I'm getting the hang of it now. You know what I mean?

You got pretty good. You went from zero to hero. I mean, when I first saw you play, we were together, and neither one of us knew what the hell we were doing. And then you got, what's your handicap? Isn't that what you asked someone? Yeah, my handicap now is 7.9. That's pretty good, right?

That's realistic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. At municipal courses, I should say, when we go country club and play country club golf, it jumps up quite a bit. But for municipal golf courses so far, 7.9. That's wonderful. Good for you.

Thank you. Now, were you a golfer? I never played golf in my life until we did that episode out there on the hill. And Ken, you looked good on that episode. Donald and I were talking about how you looked like you knew what you were doing. You know, that's what they call it, acting. Because I told Donald, I said, when I did it, I could not do it. And they edited me together.

But we were talking about Johnny C's a golfer. And he, of course, looked great. But we were like, Ken looks like he knew what he was doing. Total fraud. Utter fraud. You sold the hell out of it, Ken. Well, you sold it. You sold it.

How are you? How are you doing in this crazy time when we're all trapped in our houses? How are you holding up? Well, we're doing great. Catherine and I say our lives inside didn't change very much. We lived a lot. And we embarked on reading books to each other, books that we had said we'd read.

And then you'd ask a question like, yeah, well, what do you remember about it? Nothing. So we started reading big books, Vanity 700 pages of vanity fair and you read it out loud to each other yes yes and now we're seven eighths of the way through moby dick and i think we're only four people in the world have ever read it out loud to each other and we're about to finish it i think that's very romantic that's a big book moby dick yeah i use it as a stepladder when i'm not reading ken you've always been you always struck me as a romantic well i'm romantic yeah i mean i used to. Now it's just a lot more passive, you know.

It's funny because in the episode, I was trying to think as I was watching this episode, you know, it feels like in some episodes Kelso is so smitten and in love with Enid, his wife. And then in other episodes, he so dismisses of her, you know, it goes back and forth. There's episodes where he's just like singing old love songs he used to sing to her. And then there's other episodes where he's just like, oh, she drives me crazy. I can't stand Enid. I wonder if you thought, what you thought about if Kelso, what his feelings for Enid were. You know, it's funny, isn't it? You're watching the show develop over all the years.

And Bill would say over here, well, we're going to give you a real life, Ken, don't worry. And so you never knew what to play, how do you feel about the wife. And I don't know, I think it was very complex, the way it developed was very complex. But in it aside, the one time I thought we really got into what Kelso felt about love was when Nurse Roberts died.

Yeah. And there's that moment when I'm in the room with her, and I think you're looking through the glass, and I just bend over and give her this tiny little kiss. and I just bent over and gave her this tiny little kiss. And you knew there was something there that for all the wisecracking and in this episode we're doing today, the smart-ass stuff,

that beneath all that, there was something really deep and human and wonderful and bonding. I was going to ask you that. Did you think Kelso at one point i mean it's clear that he obviously was a really great doctor to get the chief of medicine job he had to not only be at the hospital for a while but he had to do good work you don't get that job just because of being there for a long time do you think somewhere along the line Kelso was broken and that's why he became the ball buster and someone who was just all about insurance and that was it?

Do you think at some point Kelso was like, you know what, everything that I've been doing – because you're right, he does have so many lovable moments throughout the series. Yeah. You know, the Tuscaloosa Heart episode where he's singing to the love of his life, and it turns out to be Enid. You know, the fact that he's definitely willing to give out rewards and stuff like that, he just doesn't want everybody to come and ask him over and over again for things. So I'm asking, at some point, do you think he was broken? I don't know about that, but I think what he did learn, as all doctors seem to learn, and especially right now in all

this COVID mess, what they have to see daily and the frontline workers have to see daily, what they have to do is put their feelings somewhere else and go on with the job. And I think in Kelso's position as an administrator, what happens with your feelings is you crust them over. You just develop a rind on the outside of it. Someone dies and you go on. Another person dies and you go on because you have to keep going. Someone in his position you'd think has to just develop a rind, like you said, in order to try

and run that place. Especially keep you know, keep in mind that Sacred Heart was meant to be a poorer city hospital that didn't have a lot of resources. So he, you know, in his defense, he was trying to keep the doors open to the place, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I think that's right. And I'm sure you're right, Donald, in the sense that he was probably idealistic in the same way Turk and JD are idealistic. They're right, Donald, in the sense that he was probably idealistic in the same way Turk and J.D. are idealistic. They're young. They have a mission. They think well of themselves.

They're looking at their future. Kelso was young once. Yeah. 4,800 years ago. Hey, Ken, I wanted to say that you – Bill wrote you sort of one note in the beginning. If you look at the pilot, he's just sort of like the bad guy. He literally has like the blood red eyes and there's a devil.

And then as we're seeing now come, and you played it so wonderfully, Ken. You're just, you're so- You're so amazing. You're so funny. You're so amazing. You're so wonderful. And my point was that now in season two,

which we just started, you're getting to see where Bill really starts to start to give him lots more layers, I think. Yeah. Didn't you feel that way? I felt like in season one, there was so much to tackle. And, of course, they're setting up the young wide-eyed interns and their relationships and everything. And Kelso was just like the bad guy.

And now I start to see, and, of course, I know that this goes throughout the nine years, that you really start to see, and of course I know that this goes throughout the nine years, that you really start to see it develop. I didn't remember that it happened this soon. My memory of season one is being, God, I'm over the top on every scene I'm doing. I hated it. I hated everything I was doing. I thought the timing was all right, but I thought it's just a thousand times too much. Can't you pull back?

No, I can't. I can't. I don't know where else to go. And I looked at this episode and I went, this is just the beginning of season two. And everybody is back in another deep, wonderful groove. This is an incredibly good episode. Yeah, it really is, Ken.

That's one of the reasons we wanted to have you on, because not only is it a really, really good one, but you have so much fun stuff to play in this one, and we were excited to talk to you about all of it. But before we dive into the episode itself, Ken, we've had every other one of the leads on the podcast so far, and we always kind of start with telling the people, excuse me, we always ask everyone their audition story, how they came about to be on Scrubs. Do you recall, like, how that all,

how that transpired, what your audition process was like for the show? I don't know. It was, you go in, in you do auditions you know and and this one i went in and there were two or three guys i i knew who were out there who were all terrific actors and you never think you're going to get a part you don't feel well this is my part uh but i i went in and read and uh bill was standing over in the back and he laughed. And I thought, well, that's a generous thing for him to do. He's helping out in the audition. That was really nice of him. And I went away feeling that was really nice.

And then when I went in the second time, he was there. And he laughed again, only bigger. And I thought, oh, I got a chance at this. Yeah, you start to get excited, right? a chance at this. Yeah, you start to get excited, right? Yeah, you do. And then the journey in my mind was you have a good audition, you get the part. And then that first episode, I looked at it, the pilot, and I thought, man, he should fire me. This is really awful.

Really? The one with the eyes spinning round fire me. This is really awful. Really? The one with the eyes spinning round and round. But that was written. That wasn't your acting. I thought you were great in the pilot. Did you not like your performance in the pilot? I hated it. But somebody gave me a wonderful out.

They said, Ken, all that over-the-top stuff you were obviously doing in season one, that's just the way jd was seeing you oh and then as he saw you multi-dimensional the way you see cox in this episode that's a wonderful scene with with cox the i i want to be just like you, only more successful. That scene is brilliant. What a good scene. And you guys are so good. You kill that scene.

It's wonderful. Ken, when you give me compliments, I have to tell you, it's a special place in my heart. It means so much to me because I respect you so much as an actor. And you may have thought you were broad and perhaps the part called for that particularly early on. But I want you to know, and I'm sure Donald agrees, that we really just admired and looked up to you for this entire experience. Absolutely. Let's take a break.

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with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know, Ken, I'm looking at your IMDb, I guess your Google, I Googled you, and holy shit, dude, you've been in so many movies, man. Oh my gosh, dude. Somebody told me, if you want good residuals, get small parts in big movies.

Oh, that's a good technique. I hear that. That's true. I remember when we were doing Scrubs, and guess it was it's courage under fire am i correct yeah and i remember seeing it and we had already started shooting and i finally saw the movie and you're in the movie with the scene with denzel washington and you two are having dialogue and everything like that and that was when i first realized i I was like, oh, snap, Ken had a life well before Scrubs. Ken was doing things way before. You thought Scrubs was Ken's first job?

No, I didn't think that. But, you know, I'm a dumb, naive actor who's all about himself and everything like that. And that's when the world really, you know, the world started opening up when I started doing Scrubs and realizing that, wow, people, I'm not, you know, it's not just me. There's other people involved in this whole situation. And Ken, holy cow, dude. Well, we all feel like that, wow, people, I'm not, you know, it's not just me. There's other people involved in this whole situation. And Ken, holy cow, dude. Well, we all feel like that, don't we? It's natural. You look at a script and what does any actor do when he looks at his script?

We all know this joke. You start leafing through the script. Bullshit, bullshit, my line. Bullshit, bullshit, my line. Right? Yeah, absolutely. bullshit my line right yeah absolutely you have been blessed though ken to have just a an incredible amount of work that you've done over the years that's just luck it's just a numbers game you learn the words you don't trip over the furniture and you're going to get some of them that's all well i think you're being modest i think now i'm not going to be modest. I think I'm very good in this episode.

Yeah. I think it's very smart of you to have me for this episode. You are. Let's get into it. Let's get into it. I wanted to say, Don, first of all, Ken, I have a funny memory. I don't know if you guys have this thing in your life where someone tells you an anecdote about a specific thing, and then every time you think of that thing, you think of the person. Yeah.

And one of mine is you, Ken. When we first all started making some real money, I said to you, Ken, are you splurging on anything? Are you treating yourself to anything fun? And you said something to the effect of, not really, but I have noticed that I'm changing my razor blade a bit more frequently. And I thought that was so humble and sweet. And now when I'm looking at my razor blade,

I go, damn it, when was the last time I changed this? I probably should. And I always invariably think of you. That's funny, Zach. That's funny. Donald and I were out there. I'm still cheap about razor blades. Well, don't be.

Don't be. I want you to know that I change mine way more frequently because of Ken Jenkins. So Donald had braces on Ken I don't know if you recall this but he he decided to get braces on the inside of his teeth for season two and we've been discussing

in other episodes whether or not you can hear him lisp or not because Bill eventually told him to take the damn things off this episode

could be called the lisper oh my god I can't even my mouth is even like you can't talk no my mouth is even like. You can't talk. No, not at all.

Well, at this point, it was brought to my attention. Bill's going to tell you to take the braces off. And I was like, oh, no. How am I going to, I got to enunciate my words a little bit better. I got to pronounce. You made it worse. You made it worse. I made it so much worse.

What? What? I missed this whole thing. Well, Ken, you weren't looking out for it. I'm sure if you weren't looking out for it i'm sure if you weren't looking out for it you perhaps wouldn't notice it but it's on our minds because we've been talking about whether or not we can hear it and i haven't noticed it donald to be honest i were i wonder if what you're saying is true that you said oh i have to over enunciate i have to compensate or something because to me it was like it sounded like you had something in

your mouth yeah and that was braces. Wow. You mean in that scene where you ask me for the thing you have braces in? Absolutely, yes. Oh, yeah. It's like clients like, I'll come later. Is there anywhere I could get a laser? I need a laser.

Laser. Laser. Here's that subjectivity thing right now. I never noticed that, man. Not at all. Not at all. Here's that subjectivity thing right now. I never noticed that, man. Not at all. Not at all. Oh, wait. We forgot.

Sorry. We have to backtrack a tiny bit to do our new segment where Donald, Ken, Donald tries to sum up the whole episode in 30 seconds. Right. Because we've had some people who are listening who aren't necessarily watching the show along with the podcast, and they've asked us if we could quickly sum up the episode. So Donald, are you ready? Well, I just want to say one thing. There's a lot going on in this episode. Well, this is your second time doing this. Are you already afraid of the assignment? No, let's go. Okay. Are you ready? We're going to have 30 seconds on the clock.

Here we go. And go. We start off this episode with Kelso challenging all of the medical interns to come up with an interesting patient for the AMA conference. That sets the hospital ablaze. It causes friction between John C. McGinley's character and Zach's character in the movie. Sarah and Judy, their characters don't know if they really get along, and Turk wants a laser. At the end of the episode, we find out that Dr. Kelso is a sweetheart and will actually grant you a wish if you come to him secretly.

That being said, that's my 30 seconds. 30 seconds. You got most of it. 30 seconds. You got most of it. Most of it. Now look, well, here's the thing though. It's hard to get into the most important part of the show,

and that's Kelso turning into the biggest sweetheart by choice. Yes. Once every year. Yes. But your 30 seconds are over, so I don't know. I know, I know. Is this the addendum? Right, this is the prologue, the prologue, the prologue.

The epilogue, the epilogue. The epilogue, the epilogue, the epilogue? The prologue. The epilogue. The epilogue. I give you credit for doing that, Donald. To get that much of it in in 30 seconds. This is a big episode. It's not an ABC story. It's overlapping arcs in different directions. So much stuff going on.

It was directed by Michael Spiller, one of our favorites, Ken, right? We always loved Michael Spiller. Loved Michael. And back to the old credits. If you recall in season two, Ken, you remember we had to reshoot the beautiful credit sequence, and then they wanted to add Neil to the credits,

so we reshot them. And then the song was slower, and the fans really didn't like it. And so I think that that's it for the old credit sequence. I think as far as this one, we're back to it. Can I ask you questions about this episode since you remember things? Absolutely. Neil is still in your head. Janet is still just in your head in this episode right nobody else interacts with him that's a good question Ken we've debated that because Bill has

sort of game with that we thought was mostly season one I think as far as season two he has begun to talk to other people but in this episode he only this particular one he only interacts with me. Well, so far throughout the season, he's only talked to you. He hasn't, you know, he hasn't talked to anyone else.

It's only been you so far. No, I think that's wrong. I think he spoke to Ken or someone in an earlier. Yeah, I don't remember. Maybe this is a time to ask Scrubs Wiki. Oh, I'm nervous about asking Scrubs Wiki. So, Ken, we have this Wikipedia site. Well, it's not a Wikipedia site.

This guy, Trevor, he runs a Scrubs Wikipedia site, pretty much, where you type in a question, and all of these answers come up for you know specific said question uh that's not really true at all what you just said it isn't no you don't type in a question it's it's like you can look up okay episode two of season two and it tells you different you've probably never looked at the damn thing have you i've never looked at we've been talking about it for so long, you never even looked at it. Listen to me.

Fake it till you make it. It would be a lot to fake it till you make it. I love that in your mind, it's like, so all you do, Ken, is you type in a question and it comes up with an answer. That's not at all what it is. That should be what it is. Scrubs Wiki needs to get their game right. That's a better way.

It should be the Google of scrubs. You need to make your own web page. This is just, Ken, it's just like someone has curated this page where it breaks down every episode and it tells you the guest stars, it tells you a summary, it tells you some trivia, it tells you continuity errors,

and it's become a good resource for us. I don't think it's a good resource anymore. If I can't call it and ask it questions, then it answers my questions. Well, that's why we have asked Trevor, asked Trevor Wickey. Okay, let me ask Trevor Wickey. Trevor Wickey, so far this season, in my recollection, the janitor has talked only to JD. Is this true? And if it is true, when does the janitor actually start to interact in the story where his storylines are intertwined with the rest of the cast?

I have a feeling that it's Ken Jenkins. I have a feeling, and I want Trevor Wickey to answer this, that the janitor says something to me and it makes Ken slash Dr. Kelso laugh. But we'll see. Trevor? Howdy, guys. In season two, Janitor still mostly only interacts with JD. In the next episode, My Big Mouth, Janitor partners with Troy. But it's not until My Karma where Janitor starts interacting with other main characters.

All right, let's get into the episode. So 152, I thought it was hilarious that J.D. You don't know what J.D. is daydreaming about. And you go to him because the woman says, is he always daydreaming there? And it turns out we reveal that he's daydreaming about having that beautiful afro that her son has. And I'm bopping my head to that. That made me laugh out loud. You would love it. Can I tell you my favorite line in this episode so we don't lose it? Yeah. It's in a scene with Donald and Judy. A beautiful, sweet little scene. And he looks up and says something to the heavens. And Judy says, this is my favorite line, baby, you know I don't like you talking to God

while we're having a discussion. That is funny. Well, we all do it, though. But we all do it. We all do it. Everybody does it. Everybody does it. At some point, when in a discussion that you're uncomfortable with, there's that look to the heavens like, oh, my God.

Why? Right. Why are you doing this to me right now? Right. Right. It happens all the time. I've caught my wife doing it to me. like when I'm like when she she even puts her fist grabs her fist and hits them together

why? it's true that is a great line and we reveal that Turk is still religious because you know we had asked early in season one he's quite religious not that you need to be religious to talk to God but it does seem like we had asked earlier like oh does that

do we stay with that? Does Turk keep a relationship with God and here he is talking to God, but it does seem like we had asked earlier, like, oh, do we stay with that? Does Turk keep a relationship with God? And here he is talking to God. I want to jump back to the beginning of the episode. When the show very first starts, it cuts to an exterior shot of our apartment. And then when it cuts into the apartment it kind of felt a little it felt very sitcom-y you know what i mean yeah um and there aren't a lot of moments of this show where i'm like that's like a sitcom you know yeah we we earn our laughs because the laugh track there's no laugh track to you know to to help you we earn our laughs and at that at that moment i was like is this one of those moments

where we're experimenting still in season two, trying to figure out a way to, because we're coming on Thursday nights now. And, you know, when Friends was on, that's always the first shot. It's either the central perk or it's their apartment building. And it seemed like that's what we were doing.

Do you think it was just the shot of the apartment? Because that's pretty rare for scrubs to open on a shot of the apartment it usually opens on the shot of the hospital is that what you were sensing you think maybe maybe that's what it is or maybe you know someone one of the executives at uh nbc or something was like well i don't know where they're starting from let's just you know i don't i don't i don't understand this i thought it was the apartment i thought it was a joke that didn't quite work yeah which one okay but the the shot of the apartment a playoff friends this is not friends boom it's friends it's not friends oh that's very interesting because it opens up and it's the four of us in the in the apartment i don't understand why you say i'll go get you guys beers and i'm like i'll come help you like why do you need help grabbing two beers

i don't know it was just it was a setup to leave them alone and show that they that they have that they're awkward when they're yeah when they're alone together right i have another question what the heck is an ama conference i didn't want to look it up i wanted to ask this gen the american medical association donald okay got it so for all of you who out there who didn't want to look it up i wanted to ask this genuine american medical association donald okay got it so for all of you who out there who didn't know what an ama conference was and didn't bother to look it up like me yeah i think some people might be perplexed that you don't know what the ama is after playing a fake doctor for for nine years but you know who knows Don't be perplexed. Do you know? Don't be perplexed. There's a, the AMA said that scrubs was the most medically accurate TV show about

doctors. Did you know that? I did know that. I didn't know that the AMA said it. I just thought random doctors said it. No AMA. That's a, that's one of our badges of honor.

Okay. My doctor still says, well, what do you think Ken? Ken, well, what do you think, Ken? Ken, do you use your Scrubs fame to get special treatment from the doctor? Because we've learned that Bill tells everyone, including his dentist, that he was a creator of Scrubs. My doctors have got too old to understand things like that. They just do what Dr. Kelso did, pay the nurse.

Pay on your way out. I like at 226 that not only have I just enjoyed a fantasy with the Afro, but I asked the guy, is that easy to manage? Like, JD's really asking if he might want to try a perm. Yes. Also, Ken, I love Al Jarreau. I don't know if you loved Al Jarreau. That's my second favorite joke.

And the look on the Loma's face when she goes, what? And you say, what is your response to it? Which one is the blind one? The blind fellow. Is is the blind one? The blind fellow. Is he the blind fellow? Right, right. You mean Ray Charles? It's horrible.

And then doesn't Aloma say something like, careful, Laverne, you're a saved woman. Right. Yes. But I love me some Al Jarreau. I loved Al Jarreau growing up. He sang some of the greatest songs ever made. What's Al Jarreau's most famous song? I know the name, but I can't think of what an Al Jarreau song is that I would know.

We're in this love together. We got the kind that lasts forever. Also, nobody does it like Sarah Lee Oh, he did the jingle? Do you remember when he had his own Sarah Lee commercial? And nobody does it like Sarah Lee I do remember We're in this love together

We got the kind that lasts forever Tommy Davidson, when I was a kid, had this great stand-up special Where he talks about Al Jarreau. Al Jarreau sung the theme song to Moonlighting. Some fly by night. Oh, that's right. Some fly by day. Moonlighting strangers who just met on the way.

Who just met on the way. Anyway. Tommy Davidson. You got to put a little more. Some fly by night. Well, listen. Tommy Davidson did this whole stand-up thing when I was a kid. Right?

And he would talk about how Al Jarreau could sing his butt off, but would make the craziest faces when he sang. So that to get those sounds and to get that, you know, that kind of twang to his music. Some fly by night. Some fly by day. He'd make just the faces. And his niece would be like, what's wrong with his face?

I love Dow Jerome. So, Ken, you have to kiss this woman's butt. Do you remember if she was really there for your butt kissing scene? You know, you'd think I'd remember a thing like that, but I honestly don't. I don't remember either. She was good. I forgot her name. I'll look it up because I'm on the screen.

Marie Cheatham. Oh, nice. Very nice. Yeah. Did you work with her before again? Yes. Well, we didn't work together, but when I was 17, I was an apprentice at the Alley Theater in Houston, Texas, and Marie was down there. I don't remember whether she was an apprentice, too, or whether she was just around in the company because she's younger than me, I think. But that's where, when Robert Foxworth was down there as an apprentice and Carlin Glenn. Wow.

So you guys knew each other when you were teenagers? Yeah, when I was 17. But I hadn't seen her until i was very surprised when there she was on the on the show i thought she was very good in it yeah she was a great job she was amazing and the banter between all of you guys and the banter with johnny was really funny too oh yeah the sass and you saying sass sass stop saying sass stop saying sass, sass. Stop saying sass. Stop saying sass. Sass.

Mike McDonald's back in this episode. Yes, Mike McDonald with a broken penis. Right. And Sarah's imaginary patient with the ass on the front. That was hilarious. Front butt. That scene with Sarah and Judy, that is just the sweetest little scene. When I would kill for your, I would kill for your.

And Judy says, I would kill for that wagon you're dragging. Sarah gets this blank look on her face. She says, that's your butt. What's funny is that Sarah didn't really have much of a wagon. I mean, I don't know why Judy. I think that's the actual joke, though. You know, it's very interesting because, you know, women are built different, obviously, and some have junk in the trunk and some have not a lot of junk in the trunk. And what I've learned is that, you know, jeans fit different when you have more junk.

Like jeans that you see on television and designer jeans, at least when I was growing up, were made for people with not a lot of booty. You know what I mean? And so when I would go and buy the jeans that I saw on television and I put them on, I had big quads and I have a very round and big butt. You have a big-ass wagon. And so it would be hard to fit into these jeans. And so a lot of these jeans that I had, I'd buy all of these, the brand that was popular at the time, I would buy the jeans and try to fit into them. And they just

didn't look as good as they did on other people. And so I would, one of the ways around that is to let the jeans sag off your butt, to be honest with you. Got it. You know, but I just noticed something that was very crazy about this episode is both Judy and Sarah look amazing in this episode. They're like fine as fine can be in this episode. Amen. You know what I mean? Judy's hair is out of her face and in your face.

You know what I mean? Amen. You can really see how beautiful she is. Sarah's hair is done nice and not in her face and you see how beautiful she is but she's got like the princess leia buns on her head and and they're complaining in the episode about you know what they wish they had and what they wish they didn't have and you know and in my mind i was like wow we have two really beautiful women. But at the end of the day, is that how we all are? Are we all this way?

Of course. You know what I mean? Everybody has their own insecurities about their physical appearance. And I think part of the point of the episode was here are these two women that we all would imagine would be perfectly fine with their appearance. And then they, what they finally bond over is their insecurities. And, you know, they don't have,

they can't find anything to talk about. I thought it was a pretty powerful statement, actually. Yeah. What they're saying is what they finally bond over is their own insecurities about themselves. Yeah. And then the other one is like,

what are you talking about? You have this, you have this. And she's like, what are you talking about? You have this. I wish I had your hair. I wish I had your, you know.

So I thought that was really relatable. A lot of people could go, oh, God, even these women who I perceive as to be so beautiful battle this, you know? And with the turn with Johnny C, with Dr. Cox, after your scene, and you're telling him you want to be like him only successful. And the last scene is him showing us that he's been kind of braving over his insecurities when he hands the telephone to Marie's character and lets her make the call for him. Yeah. To get him an advantage. And I really like that because it's one of the first times in the whole show where I have had the bravery to do something that affects Dr. Cox. Yeah. You know, I really – that took a lot of chutzpah for JD to do what he did and go against him.

And of course, to say to your mentor, mentor i want to be you but a more successful you yeah um i mean that was that was a really courageous moment for the character and then i really loved the fact that that that went to affect to dr cox it really it made him take action in his own career it planted a seed in his own mind right it it really planted a seed for his own mind. Right. It really planted a seed for the next six years of your relationship with him. Yeah. All right, we have to go to a quick commercial, Ken, because this is like a real show.

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a few entrances in our show that are legendary. Yes. Ken, you have two. He has two in one episode. All in one episode too. Your entrance where you're excited and happy about everything, you know, where you're coming and you're dancing where you're excited and happy about everything you know where you come in and you're dancing and you and you're excited that's one of the best entrances in scrubs history and

then your second entrance yeah when you come in and you beat the shit out of everybody i had forgotten about that one of the best entrances i had forgotten about that ken do you remember um you must have done those both the same day, I imagine. There must have been a lot of rehearsal for those sequences. I don't remember. There was very little rehearsal for the happy one because it started downstairs in the entrance, throwing off the cape. And that took a little while to set up.

Those scenes always did down there. And then we were up in the hallway, and that seemed to be almost an improvisation it just went that was so fast but on the second uh hallway scene uh that was ernie and ernie was there with those guys and saying give me a key and made all those whacks working and those people doing those enormous reactions from anything I did that sold that. Just for people that don't know,

Ernie was one of our stunt coordinators and all those people that Ken's interacting with are stunt men and women. And we haven't really given enough shout out to them yet on this show. You know, we like, we prided ourselves on doing a lot of the physical stuff, but the stunt people did a ton of the stunts on this show, especially stuff like this moment with Ken, which is – it's like a dance routine, right, Ken? It's like a choreographed dance routine. Yeah, I don't like that one. I like the second one.

Ernie Orsetti is – No, I mean – Ken, what i meant was that the the fight sequence is its own bit of oh yeah of a dancer oh absolutely yeah absolutely now listen is this the only time there were two done in one episode ask trevor the wiki okay you want to ken good for you we're good question ken is calling upon uh trevor wiki, we are going to ask Trevor Wicke, has there ever been an entrance by one of the characters that's done twice in one episode? You know, in the same hallway we had that one with the pimp strut

for Donald and I, which we did twice but separated by many, many episodes. Yes. Pimp strut was great. Has there ever been an entrance like this in another episode where we did it twice? Over-the-top entrances are a fun running gag on Scrubs, but

Dr. Kelso is the only character to get two grand entrances in one episode. Well, not twice, but I do remember Dick Van Dyke had an entrance very similar to Kelso's. Why are you helping Trevor Wicke out? This isn't for you. Because Trevor Wicke doesn't want to do the job, Zach.

No, we don't know. He said he doesn't want to do it. He said he didn't want to do it. No, Joel said it was a misunderstanding. He does want to do it. We never sent him his gift basket, Joel. Will you remind me after sending him it? I don't send gift baskets to people who are halfway in and halfway out.

You've got to be 100%. I feel like the gift basket basket, if well stocked, could put him over the edge. He might be on the fence. So we got to give him—listen, man. Yes, we have to bribe him. This is America. What are we going to bribe him with? This is America. Don't catch us dipping up.

What are we going to bribe him with? What are we going to bribe him with? Some salami? Some wine? What should we put in the gift basket for Trevor Wickey? We can find out what he likes. Just so he can answer these questions. How about Scrub Swag?

I mean, if I was Trevor Wickey, I would want Scrub Swag. I bet you we could go to Instagram and add. Listen, I'm not trying to diss you, Trevor Scrubs Wickey. But if I went to Instagram and asked all of our followers any of these questions, they'd be eager and excited to do it. This isn't helping. I'm not trying to help the situation. I'm trying to tell you guys right now that he don't want to do it.

Okay. Well, listen, Trevor Wicke, I apologize on behalf of my co-host. He don't want to do it. Now, what if we were to get, you know, there's Scrubs Funko Pops, right? What if we were to each sign our own Funko Pop and give them the Trevor Wiki as his bribe? Trevor Wiki will then take

said Funko Pops and sell them on the internet. Because he ain't into it. Then he'll make his 20 bucks and it'll be worth it. They're worth more than 20 bucks. Listen, maybe because Ken asked Trevor wiki he'll be a little bit more inclined to do it because uh everybody loves ken jenkins there we go okay i agree with

that get while you're at it get the list of all those hallways heather and heather and whoever else did one yeah that's a good question well listen let's not overwhelm the man we've already started a second question that's what I'm talking about. This wouldn't be overwhelming if he wanted to do it. It'd be the best day of his life. Yo, Zach, Ken, and Donald asked me how many things happen in the hallway. Woo-hoo! He made a website.

He don't want to do it. All right, calm down, calm down. This is his second. This is his audition to see if he wants to come back into the fold. This is the callback. This is the callback. This is his callback. We'll see how he does.

We've now given him two questions. One's from the legendary Ken Jenkins. And we will, Joelle, will you please facilitate him getting signed Funko Pops? But only if he comes through. Okay, I got you. And, you know, we could also sell it. We could send him a gift card to get a free notification for his phone.

Give him a $1.29 gift certificate. Give him a $1.29 gift certificate to Apple. Oh, my God. That's funny. Think how insulted he'd be for like, hey, man, we really want to thank you. Here's a gift certificate for $1.29 to get our ringtone. Here's the ringtones. All right. Should we get back to the episode guys yes eat schmidt and die yeah that was funny oh sarah says when she was a kid she was really close with her maid yeah and then and then and

then she goes and then she goes our maid was white and judy goes what was her name and there's a really long pause and she goes, Consuela. Oh, man. Oh, man. Bring a little optimism into your life with The Bright Side, a new kind of daily podcast from Hello Sunshine. Hosted by me, Danielle Robay. And me, Simone Boyce. Every weekday, we're

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Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So the mop and the janitor, I thought that was a great moment. And I thought that the janitor, because, you know, when watching these episodes, we don't really remember all of it and so i honestly thought that jd had a breakthrough with the janitor and i was wondering what jd was gonna do for the janitor be like that mop that i got you forget about i mean that mop that the mop that you got me forget about it you ruined everything and he just decides at the end of the show, I like my old mob better. Yeah.

Yeah, but by the way, he cries. He literally, the janitor, I had forgotten this. He cries over my gift. First of all, he's in line. Everyone's in line to go to Kelso's office to ask for things for their department. And really expensive stuff. You're asking for an Argon laser. People are asking for overtime for nurses. They're all lined up to ask for special things for the department. The janitor's in line to ask for an Argon laser. People are asking for overtime for nurses. They're all lined up

to ask for special things for the department. The janitor's in line to ask for a mop. Yeah. And then he doesn't get a mop, so I go out and buy him a mop. I take the time to gift wrap it. I mean, I tie a bow. J.D. goes out his way to make this man

feel special. I know. I wish I had seen the scene. That would have been a funny scene watching me mop shopping for the janitor. But I buy the mop. I gift wrap it. I put a bow on it. And I give it to him. And he starts to cry.

He's so moved. Yeah. Yeah. That was funny. And then at the end of the episode, he's like, I like my old mom. I go, you cried. He goes, no, that was you. That was you.

Yeah, that was you. That was you. Yeah, that was you. I like your line when you said what was wrong with the mop. And you said it was out of mop gas. Yeah. Was it out of mop gas? Yeah. He's so funny, Neil. I just look at him and I start giggling.

I mean, you know when he comes on, it's going to be a funny moment. How about Rob Macchio? First of all, I believe when you get fake breasts, I think it's like a special wing or doctor, right? I don't know why we're handling, why Judy and Rob Macchio are handling a breast augmentation. Yeah, I think you go to a plastic surgeon for that stuff. Right, right. I thought that – I don't know much. But I was like, why is Judy prepping a breast augmentation and why is Rob Macchio doing the surgery?

Because the real JD was not in the writer's room when they were. Exactly, Ken. Yeah, exactly, Ken. Because I was like, I believe we're like a small city hospital and like mostly for like emergencies. I don't think we're doing like cosmetic breast augmentation. But what about when he goes, let's get you into a fresh pair of blouse bunnies. A blouse bunnies. And then later he says to the husband, after she's had her breast done, he goes, we're going to need to get you some bigger hands. You didn't laugh at that?

That was hilarious. I did laugh. I laugh at everything Rob does. Rob's a funny man. Yeah. So we have a moment where Elliot has a voiceover. What? What are you talking about? Yeah, she has a voiceover. What? What are you talking about?

Yeah, she has a voiceover when she's in her bra looking in the mirror and stuff like that. Is that a voiceover or is she talking to herself? Her mouth isn't moving, so it's definitely voiceover. By the way, when she's playing with her breasts and she's squeezing them together and then she leans forward and then something breaks. But I don't know what the hell happens. It sounds like someone throws a brick through her front window. There's like this loud glass shatter noise.

Do you know what I'm talking about? No, I didn't pick that up. Yeah, the idea is she's like leaning forward and she's like giving herself big cleavage and then the idea is like something breaks. But do you know what I'm talking about, Joelle? Yeah. But the sound effect was so weird.

It was like, it sounds like some, she was being attacked from outside. That was the bottle of massage oil. Something broke, Ken, something on her sink broke, but the sound effect was just a bizarre choice.

I thought, um, Joel, do we have a guest? Uh, let's bring them in. Can we take a question here from one of our lovely listener fans? They come into the room.

You're about to meet them. And then they ask us a question. Banks! Banks smoking that loud! Banks smoking that loud! Oh, my gosh. Banks smoking that loud! Banks, are you exhaling marijuana as you ask us a question yes i did have a couple of questions um no but that's not

that sounds like a yes banks you smoking that loud right now why you call it loud i never heard because it's it's loud and stinky baby but banks Banks, all three of the cast members of Scrubs that you have enjoy the occasional use of cannabis. It seems like you're the appropriate guest for this episode because we just watched you exhale a giant cloud of smoke. That shit was like a Snoop Dogg video, dog. That shit was for real, for real, man. You took a big ass hit off of something. And, Zach, you have a shirt that says burn. Yes, sir. Burn it, burn it, burn it.

Because I'm going to burn one down. If you don't like my fire, then don't come around, because I'm going to burn one down. That's Ben Harper. No doubt. Was that O.G. No doubt. Is that OG? Was that OG Kush?

What was that? What was that you spoke of? No. I was told it was purple diesel. Oh. Oh, okay. It's a mixture of sour diesel and purple hay. It's purple diesel.

It proves it's purple diesel. Ken, do you still partake every now and then? You know, when you reach 80, you don't need to because it's sort of like it's a perpetual filled thing. It just gets utterly filled up. And there's no need to bother your lungs about it because it's just always there. You're full. Oh, I see. So you smoked enough so that you're just good.

You're high enough for the rest of your life. Well, either that or I was walking around Donald occasionally. Ken, my lips are purple now, Ken. They used to be pink. That's all I'm saying. Donald is salivating, Banks. You've made him jealous. All right, Banks, you have a question for us?

We have Ken Jenkins on the show today, Donald Faison, and Isaac Braff. Yeah, I just watched the episode. Ken was hilarious. Yes. Right? The only thing getting thinner is my wallet. Yep. So my question about the show is if you guys could recast, who would you cast as who?

If I could recast myself, I'll just say myself. No, you could recast the whole show. I don't want to do that. But if I could recast, I loved working with everybody. And I think everybody is really good on this show. And I can't see anybody else playing the characters that we played. But if I could recast myself, there are like three people that I think could have done a great job if timing was on on their side Denzel well I mean

come on man uh I feel I feel like I feel like if timing was on his side Jaleel White would have made a great Christopher Turk by like he would have crushed that role as Christopher Turk if timing were if timing were right on his side I feel like uh Damon Wayans Jr. if he were older back then he would have crushed Christopher Turk he would have done such a great job as Christopher Turk and uh I think those two people and when it comes to playing that character, if I could recast Chris Turk and it couldn't be me, I would take those two people. Okay. I was just thinking as Donald was answering because I zoned out. His answer was so boring.

And I think that – So is your face. I was thinking Ben Platt would be a good JD. He's a funny, young, nerdy character actor. And he's very talented. And he can sing his ass off. Not that JD was required to sing too much. How about you, Ken?

Can you think of another actor who could have, I don't know, no one could replace the legendary Ken Jenkins. I wouldn't want to put anybody else through nine years of that. I'll stick with me. All right. What about another one, Banksy? Can I call you Banksy? Banksy is fine. Banko is cool, too.

Banko. Oh, this is non-scrub related. Donald, I want to know, like, because, you know, I'm from New York, too. So, like, I've kind of followed your career. Like, you know, you're always a groomsman, never a groom, really. Right. But, you know, Clueless, Sugar Hill, and all that thing like that. Who in Hollywood, and you can who, who in Hollywood did you serve up the most on the court?

Who in Hollywood did I serve up the most on the court? Who in Hollywood did I serve up the most on the court? Me. A lot of people. There are a lot of people that have gotten their ass busted by me. And then there are a lot of people that have busted my ass. The most famous of the two. Wait, I have a question. I have a question.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Can I ask you a question? Yeah, go ahead does he mean like in in in a metaphor in the acting world or on the basketball court on the basketball court no i don't know if that's what he means banks what do you mean i mean on the basketball court okay shutting up thank you and you stay quiet for a while until i'm done do you understand yes? Yes, sir. I'm sorry. So, Leonardo DiCaprio is the most famous person that I've ever served on the basketball court.

Him and Tobey Maguire on the same team. Gave them the business. Really? And this was back, dude, this was back when I couldn't play basketball that well, right? This was me coming to LA and being put in the league and then seeing Leo and Tobey and being like, oh, they're going to get it today.

You know what I mean? And I didn't even score a lot of points, but we beat the crap out of it. They had a squad in this entertainment league that we played in, and we beat them in the playoffs. We got them in the first round, and when we played them during the season, we beat them. Anyway. I have a question.

I told you to shut up. Sorry. season we beat them anyway we have a question did you i told you to shut up sorry i'm just playing i'm just playing. I'm just playing. What were you going to say? What were you going to say? What were you going to say? It's so funny, but I also don't want to talk now. I told you to shut up. Did Leo invite you back to his game? Because I always hear about these celebrity games where when someone comes in and they kick ass, like you probably did, that they then don't get invited back. You've got to watch how good you are.

Right. So that happened to me. That happened to me that happened to me well so so one time i played ball with toby and a bunch of his buddies at somebody's house i don't know who it was but uh harley pasternak invited me uh harley pasternak's a celebrity trainer celebrity trainer right and we told you had said um bananas or sugar sticks go ahead right and and and i've run into him i've you. He's invited me to a bunch of games to play with other celebrities because he knew I loved basketball. So I played with Kanye West. I played with Common. I played with all of these people, right? And he invited me one time

to play basketball with Toby. And I remember Toby McGuire was like, I don't want to be on his team because I'm not going to have fun playing on his team. And I took offense to it. And I remember when I got there and I listen, you talk about smoking a lot of loud. I had smoked so much weed when I got there before I got there. Right. And so I'm stoned out of my mind. And he's like, and he's like, I don't want to play with him because I'm not going to have fun. And I was like, oh, okay, fine. You got it. And I proceeded to bust their ass on their court.

And I never got invited back. Yeah, you got to be not too good, right? That's the trick to play with fancy celebrities. Right. You have to make it feel like they can compete on your level if they can't compete on your level. You got to bring them up to your level. You got to be like the LeBron James of the thing where you score buckets, but you make them feel like they're doing their thing. Another time, hold up, I was in Miami and Leo and Toby invited me to hang out with them.

And this was one of the biggest moments of my life. You know what I mean? invited me to hang out with them. And this was one of like the biggest moments of my life. You know what I mean? As a young actor, to me, Leonardo DiCaprio is the best actor in the world. I love everybody out there. I think everybody does a great job. But for me, Leo is my age and I think he's the best at my, like, I don't think anybody's

better than him in, since, you know, when it comes to my peers, people that are my age, right? And so we're in Miami and we go down to this little basketball court and it's me, Leo and Toby on the same team. And we play against, you know, some Floridians on a three on three game and we win. And I, you know, I remember and I remember thinking, you know, I've arrived. I played ball with Leo. I played ball with Toby. We were on the same team.

It happened. I'm going to be in the next Spider-Man. I can feel it. I was wrong because right the next time I played ball with Toby, he said, I don't think I'd have fun playing on this team. I was like, but we kicked ass in Miami, baby. Toby, we had a thing. We had a thing.

We did our thing in Miami. All right. So those are the people who, when it comes to basketball, those are the two people that I've given the business, Leonardo DiCaprio and Miami. Leonardo DiCaprio and Toby McGuire. When it comes to getting my ass busted, there are quite a few entertainers out there who can really ball. Michael B. Jordan is nice. Jesse Williams, nice.

I'll be fassing these dudes up. I'm a heavy NBA celebrity game historian. And someone like Michael B. Jordan, I think I... I'm telling you right now. I'm telling you right now. It's a big difference when you're under those lights, though, man. It's a big, big, big difference. And the ball isn't the real ball.

It's not like anything you've ever played with. Why isn't the ball a real ball in the celebrity games? Because it has to look. It's shiny, and it has a bunch of. It doesn't feel the same way. Right. I love that grit, that normal grit we usually have when we play michael b jordan jesse williams brian mcknight james lejour yeah james lejour i'm trying to i'm

leaving some people out they're gonna be pissed off who's your sorry the migos are supposed to be really good they're so much younger than me that i've never had the like when you were playing when you were playing actively in these celebrity leagues, who was the best? Who would you pick number one on your team of people we know? It's either Brian McKnight or James LeJour. Those two are...

Like, Brian McKnight understands basketball, right? James LeJour, he doesn't have to score 40 points to win. He would average a triple-double every game we played. And you'd look at it and be like, damn, you know, he didn't take a lot of shots, but he had 10 points.

And I don't think he passed the ball to me that much, but look, he has 10 assists. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just had to look up who James LeJour was. Right. That dude is, that dude can ball for real, for real. Mike Cannon from Las Vegas. Yeah, he can hoop. Yeah.

But the three that are really good, in my opinion, are James LeJour, Brian McKnight, and Michael B. Jordan. Okay. Well, there you have it, everyone. Donald, the celebrity basketball player. How's Dulé Hill? Dulé is not a real... He's not that big...

That's another person who could have played Turk, is Dulé Hill, if circumstances were correct. Dulé is not... How's Jaleel White? Jaleel is dope. Jaleel could ball too. That's another one. That's another one, but I gave... And Jaleel knows it. I gave him theal, too. That's another one. I remember him. That's another one. And Jaleel knows it. I gave him the business one summer league. We had a Nike summer league, and I gave him the business.

And he knows it. And to this day, every time, if I ever, I mean, I don't play basketball anymore. But from that point on, if I did play Jaleel White, he was extra aggressive when it came to guarding me. And if I was guarding him, to showing me, yo, that was a fluke, dude, you ain't never going to do it again. But I gave him the business one game so much so that, you know, when people are staring at you and you're acting like you can't see them staring at you. I felt the, I felt the burn in my peripheral while he's sitting on the bench after I filed his ass out burning into my free house.

Do they still do this celebrity basketball thing? I don't know. I don't play basketball anymore. No, I'm saying they do. Okay. Not right now, obviously. In non-COVID times. I wonder if it was still a thing.

Yeah, definitely. I don't play basketball like that anymore. But it's a big difference. When it gets on television and the announcers and the TV timeouts and all of that stuff, it's not the same game it gets on television and the announcers and the tv timeouts and all of that stuff it's not the same game you know what i mean your rhythms you have to be hot going in and just stay hot because your rhythms are off and you can't play your way into games like that my opinion all right well for anyone who tuned out for the last 10 minutes

this is ken just woke up. Ken just woke up. Ken was like, huh? Ken took a brief nap. Ken took a brief nap. But we're back. Banks, thank you, man. Those were good questions. No problem.

This was great. And we appreciate you. And you inspired Donald to go have some purple diesel. Well, it's not going to be purple diesel. It might be that. Listen, man. It might be that lookout. It might be that. Listen, man. It might be that lookout. Can I count out?

It's my birthday. You want to count out? Go ahead. Yeah. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Thank you. Happy birthday.

How old are you? 32. Oh, you're youngin'. All right. The show's not quite over yet, but we'll tell you what we're going to do. Well, I guess we kind of did it, right? We don't have anything else to talk about. I mean, Ken, is there anything else you wanted to say?

Yeah, you have to say how good Johnny Castle is. Yeah. Ken, you know what? Absolutely. You're absolutely right. You're right, Ken. Johnny Castle doesn't get enough appreciation. He plays Doug, the nervous guy,

and he was always very, very funny and always had his little red fanny pack on and it's always the butt of kelso and cox's jokes they and some of the best one liners like you know when he's like my family lives in uh right now you'll see them yeah my family lives in reno you'll see them around the holiday times, too. Christmas, right. Do you know what? I'm sure you'll see them at Christmas for it.

Right, right, right, right, right, right. And he snaps off those ends when Johnny says he's always chasing him off. Go, go, go, go. He snaps those ends off so crisply, too. Yeah. Yeah. He's so good. Ken, I just want to say thank you for doing this.

Donald and I talk about a lot how much we love you and miss you, and we were both really, really excited that you wanted to do this. You know, and also, you are the MVP of our show. You were talking earlier about how you felt you were so broad and everything like that and you needed to pull it back. But I personally watching you feel like you were so natural and you were able to bring a natural element to slapstick and broad comedy. And as much as you're like, I feel like I was all I was over the top. I personally I it's it.

I disagree with you honestly i think you are right in the pocket and you crush it every time and i think that's why it started off as kelso being the bad guy and as we moved forward kelso all of a sudden was telling all of the great jokes and had all of the great one-liners. And so that's just my, that's just my two cents. Donald, I got to tell you, the only reason that I agreed to come on and do this with you guys was the hopes that you would say some wonderful bullshit like that. Okay. Nobody talk. Nobody talk talk we can't beat that we can't beat that that's how you end the show thank you ken banks count us out five six seven eight stories about a show we made

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