Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - 208: My Fruit Cup With Heather Locklear

Episode Date: July 28, 2020

On this week's episode, Turk and JD reveal how they beg borrow, and steal to make ends meet as medical residents. In the real world, Zach and Donald are joined by television legend, Heather Locklear. ...Locklear recounts her days as a star on two prime time television series, and the #metoo moment that led her to remove her name from the First Wives Club. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:34 This past season on my podcast, Here's the Thing, I spoke with more actors, musicians, policymakers, and so many other fascinating people, like jazz bassist Christian McBride. Jazz is based on improvisation, directors, musicians, policymakers, and so many other fascinating people, like jazz bassist Christian McBride. Jazz is based on improvisation, but there's very much a form to it. You have a conversation based on that melody and those chord changes. So it's kind of like giving someone a topic and say, okay, talk about this.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Listen to the new season of Here's the Thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Donald, they are making a Lando series for Disney+, and Donald Glover's coming back, and I just don't see how anyone could avoid you being on this show. Wait, Donald, when did, how did I miss this? This happened this morning. Oh, see, Joelle, I had it right. Yeah, this is brand new news.
Starting point is 00:02:31 They think they just dropped a trailer. I haven't watched the trailer yet. A trailer? There's a trailer already? I think, yeah, somebody was saying that there's some images on Disney+, so I'm not sure if they cut a trailer from the footage. Nobody called me! Nobody called me. Wait, Joelle, it's already been filmed? No, it hasn't been
Starting point is 00:02:48 filmed. No, no, no. I think it's footage from Solo that's been cut up. Yeah. He's in there doing his Lando thing, and they're like, coming soon. Lando Calrissian. Listen, I was gonna say, Solo's a good movie. Y'all can hate if you want to and act like Solo sucked. I didn't make it through Solo.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Let's just... Listen, let me just... Listen. Let me just tell you something right now. There was nothing wrong with Solo. It was a fun Star Wars movie. If it had come out before The Last Jedi, when everybody was kind of over Star Wars for that little bit of time, I promise you it would have been well received.
Starting point is 00:03:22 I promise you it would have been well received the problem was it was Rogue One The Last Jedi and then Solo all within a year and a half and that freaking made it so everyone was like I'm not up for it's too much Star Wars for me
Starting point is 00:03:37 it's too much Star Wars listen if that were the Force Awakens let's say let's not go down a whole Star Wars wormhole please what if that were The Force Awakens, let's say, how about this? Now, even better. Let's not go down a whole Star Wars wormhole, please. I'm not going to go down a wormhole. What if that was one of the first television shows? Let's say that was what The Mandalorian was.
Starting point is 00:03:55 If Solo was what The Mandalorian was when it came on, everybody, and they were like, look, we're not going to make it a movie. We're just going to make it a television show. We're going to do nine episodes of Solo. And the first episode was the movie that we saw. Everybody would be losing their mind on how great Solo was. So don't give me the bullshit. It was just too much Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I'm going to pin this conversation for our own podcast. Yeah, exactly. And I also think any time directors are replaced with a new director and that director comes in and has to sort of start from whatever point he's starting. I mean, it's kind of a recipe for a disaster. It's two different movies. There's the Chris and Phil movie and then there's the Ron Howard movie. I would have really liked to have seen the Chris and Phil movie because they're funny dudes. But I guess my assumption was always that they must have gone off too far in their own direction. And Kathleen Kennedy, the woman who you can't recognize from her identical twin, probably thought like, hey, that's not the tone of this.
Starting point is 00:04:55 What are you guys doing? I don't know. I don't know what happened. I made that up. I made that up in my head. Joelle, but doesn't that sound like it's realistic? I'm very curious to know the real story of what all went down i've heard a lot a lot of rumors uh but there's there's nothing confirmed everyone's being very tight-lipped as of now i think it's a story we'll hear more about
Starting point is 00:05:15 in five or ten years well i think uh yeah one day it'll yes like the snyder everybody's so excited for the snyder dc cut and everything like. Is it really going to be better than the Justice League movie, though? I don't know. But all I can tell you is this. I'm just asking out there. Joelle nodded her head like, I don't know. Dan nodded his head like, I don't know. But everybody bought whatever the fuck.
Starting point is 00:05:36 HBO Max, is that what it is? Yes. Do you have to buy HBO Max? Or if you have HBO, do you just get HBO Max? I can actually answer this question. If you have a subscription, you do not need to buy HBO Max or is it if you have you have HBO do you just get HBO Max no you actually answer this question no okay if you have a subscription you do not need to buy it you can use your you can log in like through your yeah like if I have it through if I have it through my cable or whatever I I have it okay but if you don't have it and you're like I'd rather just pay like ten dollars
Starting point is 00:05:57 and have the HBO streaming experience you can do that as well and it's totally worth it there's so much content and when does the Snyder Cut drop? Does anyone know that? That is a Google question. Let me find out. How are you, Adeyashun? I'm well. You know, I'm well.
Starting point is 00:06:13 You know, doing it the best I can. California just reached number one in the U.S. with COVID cases. Yeah, congrats, everybody. Congrats. We did it, y'all. We did it. Thunderous applause, Dan.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Thunderous applause. No, how about instead of thunderous applause, Dan, you just do thunderous booing. Yeah, cheers, Dan. Congrats. We did it, y'all. Thunderous applause, Dan. No, how about instead of thunderous applause, Dan, you just do thunderous booing. Yeah, cheers, Dan. Cheers. You suck! We did it, y'all. Good work, Dan. We did it. Good work, LA. Good work, California.
Starting point is 00:06:37 We are the worst. Holy cow, dude. We're gonna be making movies in Stod. Nobody's gonna make anything here. Well, you know, it's okay, though. It's okay. We had it coming. We're going to be making movies in Stade. Nobody's going to make anything here. Well, you know, it's okay, though. It's okay. We had it coming. We were so freaking out.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Hey, this is Canada's chance. You know how, like, if we're in pole position for production, and Canada's like, oh, shit, and now you're holding the cars, and they take it on the turn, and then they make a move on turns? Yeah, this is Canada's chance to come in and just steal all the U.S. production. Good luck, Canada. They can do it right now. You can do it right now, Canada.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Right now, Canada. You need to make the incentives even bigger. And bam, it's over. Just don't tax us. Just don't tax us. Everyone will come. Do you know that the film industry started in my hometown? Well, my home neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:07:25 What town is this? Well, Edison's Black Mariah, where he was making the very first films, was in West Orange, New Jersey. That's where his laboratory and where he did all his work was. You can actually go there. It's a museum. And the Black Mariah was his first soundstage. I don't know if you guys know this trivia. And the Black Mariah was a rectangle or square that sat on a giant circular track.
Starting point is 00:07:53 And so it could spin. It had a sunroof and it would spin to find the light because Edison needed so much light to make these films that the roof would open and the whole thing would rotate 360 degrees to find the sun. And so the movie industry begins and it's like, holy shit, this is a thing. And then someone goes, why are we doing this in New Jersey? Why don't we do this where the sun is always out and it's always 75 degrees and it's always sunny and we don't have to – we can do whatever the hell we want. And that's how the song, All the leaders, all the leaves are brown, and the sky is gray, and the sky is gray. California, California dreams on a winter's day. Well, that was a beautiful rendition.
Starting point is 00:08:40 That was written a few years later in the 60s. Oh, okay. But that's about living in Laurel canyon and uh i think right being there's a great documentary on the laurel canyon music scene i highly recommend what's it called it's called laurel canyon i believe and it's uh on epics um and there's a two-parter and it's about the the music scene in the 60s and the 70s in Laurel Canyon, and it's just fucking great if you love music and music documentaries. I do love music, and I do love – how are you, man? I'm good.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Heather Locklear is here today. That's a thing. That's amazing. First of all – Is she here, Dan, Joelle? Is she in the waiting room? Oh, my God. We should probably get into the show.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Let's get her in. Nobody leaves Heather in the corner. You don't leave Heather in the corner. I'm nervous. Can I be honest with you that I'm nervous? I'm nervous too. I'm going to be honest with you. Yes, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:09:31 I knew that we had a guest, and I knew that it was someone of importance. Yes. I did not, I'm afraid I did not know the magnitude of the guest this week. I am so excited. How did you not know that it was Heather Locklear? She's the only star in the episode that we would ask. I mean, who did you think it might be besides Heather Locklear? I thought it was Shay because this is such an important episode.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Oh, no. Shay specifically requested his story, which I believe is the episode Johnny C voiceovers. Okay. So I think that's one of Shay's favorites. So he said, Shay, you pick. Because this is such an important story in the whole Scrubs thing. This episode
Starting point is 00:10:13 is so important. I never imagined in my whole life that I would ever be in a position to keep Heather Locklear waiting. Let's not do it anymore. Let's end it. Let's stop it. 5, 6, 7, 8! Stories about a show
Starting point is 00:10:27 we made about a bunch of docs and nurses and a janitor who loved to hate. I said here's the stories that we all should know. So gather round to hear our gather round to hear our
Starting point is 00:10:43 Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald. Heather, can you hear us? Hi! There she is. Hey! I got so excited my dogs are all barking now. Hey, shut up.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I'm talking to Heather Locklear. How are you guys? Hi, Heather. We are so excited you're doing this. We're very geeked out. I can't believe it. I'm geeking out all over again. Donald, you look like you're in a closet with clothes.
Starting point is 00:11:15 What's going on? Where are you? He is. That's his sound booth. I am legitimately in a closet with clothes. You nailed it. This is my closet. I share it with my wife.
Starting point is 00:11:25 I was hoping because there's some nice pink... Yeah, I was hoping you wouldn't be in that dress. She put something else up because it was just my golf shirts and stuff. She was like, that's ugly to look at. Let me put... Oh, you didn't tell me that those dresses were up as background design by Casey. I thought that they were outfits she might be wearing soon.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Or Donald might be wearing them. Or Donald might be wearing them. But now you're saying that Casey didn't like the look of the closet on the – and decorated a little bit. Yeah, she put up something so that the backdrop was a little different. I've since moved the camera a little bit. That's sweet. That is so – Zach, you're all happening there. That looks cute. Yes, Heather.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Well, Donald has – As do you. Donald has two young children, and so he kind of has to hide out in his walk-in closet to do this podcast. Oh, no, I hear. I put my dog out with my boyfriend because he would bark and be all over. And my daughter just left Donald, I have to say. She just wanted to say that she has a crush on you.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Oh! And I don't think she... Yeah, I don't think she ever saw Scrubs, but she... I don't think she was alive, but I think she saw Uptown Girls. Hey! We're in that together! Right, we were! We saw Uptown Girls. Hey, we're in that together. Right, we were. We've been talking about this. Now, we have so much to ask you, but wait, since you brought it up, let's start with Uptown Girls.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Donald's told us a lot of fun memories of making that movie. Heather, did you have a good time making that movie? No, he had good friends with the co-stars. He really didn't talk to me. I think we had one night out. He was really sweet, but he was very much in a group. And I was the old lady of everything. So I was like, okay. That's not it at all.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Donald, were you too cool for school for how to love? No, I was so nervous. I was so nervous. Yes, I was. No, he was. He was. He was. Trust me, I was.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Oh, that's so sweet. I think we had just one night out, right? That was it. It was one long night. Long night in a yeah just one night out right that was it it was one long night long night in a line or something yeah yeah that was it but i'd see you in makeup and stuff yeah that was a fun time i i enjoyed making that movie i enjoyed being in new york city in the summertime that was so cool i know i was like i'll go to new york that's great it's so rare when someone actually lets you shoot in Manhattan these days or even those days. So when someone's like, it's a movie, and you're like, okay, I like the script.
Starting point is 00:13:27 They're like, and it's shooting in Manhattan. Are we going to Vancouver? Yeah, exactly. That's how it always is. We were just saying that, how Vancouver has an opportunity right now, right this moment to snatch up. They won't let any of us in. Right, but they can snatch up all the work. I know, we just said that before you came on,
Starting point is 00:13:43 Heather, we were saying that Canada is in a position since COVID is just devouring Los Angeles to steal production once and for all. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Just not with us. Yeah, we're not allowed in. But maybe one day they'll let us in. Maybe one day they'll let us in. We've never really wanted to go to Canada so much.
Starting point is 00:14:02 I know. And now it's exactly like life when someone's like, now we don't, now we're all like, please let us in. Please let us be in a relationship with you. Right, exactly. There you go.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Heather, I was just looking at your IMDb and an actor could only dream to have had the length of a career you've had. I mean, you have, I can't, Donald and I can only hope that we have a fraction of the success you've had over your long career.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Oh, you already do. No, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, that's right, I'm older than you. Well, I'm older than you. You're a smidgen older than us. You still have time to catch up. You're a smidgen older than us,
Starting point is 00:14:38 but you started very young. Now, is it true that, I was just looking, was chips your very first job? That's what IMDB says. It was my first job. My first line, make them stop. Please make them stop. That's wow. Wow. I remember. Hey, that was good. I would have cast you. It was actually a group of, uh, uh, motorcycle riders throwing a girl up in a blanket. I don't know if it was me or someone else, but I remember for the audition, I was always nervous. And for the audition, I heard the girl before me say, make them stop,
Starting point is 00:15:10 please make them stop. And I'm like, oh, that's the way I'm supposed to do it. So I copied her. You stole her line reading. I'm going to try that. Yes, I did. I was, yeah, it was very good. So these motorcycle men, I just want to catch the scene. They have a teenage girl in a blanket and they're throwing her up? I think there's two of us. And I think, yeah, they might be throwing the other girl up in a blanket. And she's so terrified of these guys.
Starting point is 00:15:37 And I'm screaming, make them stop. I don't know who I'm screaming to. Probably her. Probably to Ponch. Yeah, probably to Ponch or John. Exactly. Either John or Ponch. I hope it was John or Ponch that came to Ponch or John either John or Ponch one of them I hope it was John or Ponch
Starting point is 00:15:45 that came to your rescue yeah it's like if you're on if you're on Chips and like your storyline didn't involve Ponch or John what's the point
Starting point is 00:15:53 what am I here I wonder if that happened with us like people like you know Heather you got to do two episodes and you got to interact
Starting point is 00:16:03 with almost most everyone yeah it'd be funny if you came to do a show that was popular and like you know heather you got to do two episodes and you got to interact with almost most everyone yeah but i'd be funny if you came to do a show that was popular and like you never your storyline didn't include any of the lead characters can you imagine you're like oh it's that's well oh actually there was something i did i did the first wives club and um there was a couple scenes and there was there was a couple scenes that they cut out of me, and then the only scene that I had had no lines, and one of the actors were at a funeral, and he's supposed to take his hand and touch my breast, and they show that.
Starting point is 00:16:33 And he actually touched more than the, it was kind of gross. And so I said, can you just take my name off the credits, since now I don't have any lines, And, you know, saw everyone from afar. So it was creditless. So wait, you're in the first Wives Club and the only thing that happens is a man grabs your breasts? He doesn't grab it. He actually outlines my areola with his finger. I didn't say that in the script.
Starting point is 00:16:57 I was like, I'm so glad they're following his hand down because my face, my mouth is falling open. And I can't believe it. And don't do it again. Just one take and let's go. Oh my God. You know, I've never asked someone this, but it's just it must be, it's a blessing because
Starting point is 00:17:14 you're such a stunning woman and always have been a sex, I think it's safe to say you were a sex symbol because you are and were. No, you were and are. Is it ever because Donald and I never faced this problem. Never. We're not sex symbols.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Listen, man. Never. Did you ever feel like, did you feel like, did you sometimes feel like, guys, like, I want to do the part, but I don't want to do that random sex scene with that guy. Like, does that have to be in there? Does that come up in your head? Well, it wasn't really. We were in a funeral.
Starting point is 00:17:43 We were on the benches at the church oh yeah so it was and so there was more to the part and i had filmed the bigger bigger scenes and that's they just thought they i don't know maybe i was bad in it and they went let's just put that i doubt it you're one of the you're one of the very few people gold you're one of the very few people that we were talking about you because you're one of the very few people that was on two hit shows at the same time. Right, right. That was very cool. Tell us about that.
Starting point is 00:18:09 You were doing Dynasty and TJ Hooker. Oh, my God. First I did. How opposite can you be? And Dynasty, I think they let me go because they were letting someone else go. And I'm like, okay. So then I got this other job, TJ Hooker. And then they brought me go because they were letting someone else go and i'm like okay so then i got this other job tj hooker and then they brought me back so um you know i would we work a week here and a couple days on dynasty and it was no big deal i wasn't the main person character so it's
Starting point is 00:18:35 only had a few lines in each thing right it wasn't tough at all it was a big deal because that doesn't ever happen to anybody yeah was it two different networks was it two different networks? Was it two different networks? No, it was ABC and they were both spelling. Oh, there you go. Imagine that. Gosh, Aaron Spelling sure did love Heather Locklear. He sure did and then he passed away and then I'm like jobless. Don't say that. Don't say that.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Listen, Bill Lawrence loves him some Heather Locklear too. Well, I did Spin City and I'm not sure if he was writing on it then or not. I'm not sure what the thing was. Maybe he left, but I think he might have created it. Is that true or not? Yes, he created the show, and I'm sure if he wasn't writing that he obviously thought you were very funny. Or saw something. Yeah, but he also, you know, Bill is a very, one thing about our friend is he's very loyal,
Starting point is 00:19:24 and when he likes people, he likes to work with them over and over again. So even if he wasn't writing the show at the time, the fact that you were on the show means he was like, oh – you know, he had obviously seen your work and thought, oh, she's so funny. She's so beautiful. Well, I befriended his wife, and so now I get Christmas cards. That's the way in. That's the way in. Yeah the way it is it's always through the wife what was tj hooker like because we always hear all these shatner stories mostly from star trek but but you knew like shatner what i mean this is a long time ago well he was very
Starting point is 00:19:58 intimidating to me and he's like when you stop speaking saying you're like you can't think for any lines kind of like on your show on scrubs you can't think for any lines, kind of like on your show, on Scrubs, you can't think, you can't go, hmm, I mean, you do, you guys do, because then you have that bubble where you're doing something else, but he would say, if you stop speaking, and take a breath, I'm going to start, I'm going to jump in, so I'm like, and it was always, like, license plate numbers, I'd have to remember, oh, license plate, blah, blah, blah, blah, and this, and blah, blah, and they'd have different, 50 different characters in one show, and so I was just delivering the boring information, license plate, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and this and blah, blah. And they'd have 50 different characters in one show. And so I was just delivering the boring information. And it made me so nervous.
Starting point is 00:20:30 And he'd look at me and stare and wait. And I'd go, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he'd jump in, and that was about it. He is very intimidating. He's Captain Kirk. I can understand why he's intimidating. Well, I didn't ever see those shows. So he was just William Shatner.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Even at the time, Heather, were you curious to go back and see like, oh, let me see what this – was this guy's – the allure of Shatner? Yes. I did. I could see the allure. He's very charming. Right. But he's – and he's very funny and very dry. I ended up doing a Boston Legal with him.
Starting point is 00:21:04 And that was fun. And I was a little older, it seemed closer to his age than when I was 18, and brand new. And then I remember going, I think, maybe it was Nobu, and it was he and his wife, and we went to some place where you throw the bras off,
Starting point is 00:21:24 and you put them on the ceiling, something like that. Coyote Ugly? Something similar. Something similar. I don't think it was that, but it was another place. And I was on the bar and I go, should I take it off? And I'm thinking, he's probably going, why are you asking me? And he said, sure.
Starting point is 00:21:39 And I took it off and it's left there somewhere. He's like, why? Why are you asking me? Right. Sure, why not? And then listen to this. What's his name on Seinfeld? The little guy who...
Starting point is 00:21:55 Jason Alexander. Jason Alexander. Yes. So he is a huge fan of William Shatner's. And if you watch, he goes, tell me what Shatner's like. Tell me what he's like. And I'm like, well, sometimes he's an asshole. And sometimes he's not.
Starting point is 00:22:08 But he's like, oh, my God. And I didn't want to, you know, say anything. I mean, there's nothing wrong with William Bill. But so if you go back and watch, you'll see his cadence is similar to William Shatner's. Oh, really? He was inspired by him. Totally. Now you have to look at it differently.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Travers coming over yeah it's coming over it's coming over Jerry exactly point the phasers at the well this is going to blow people's minds so Jason Alexander was such a big fan of William Shatner that if you listen to his cadence some of it is in the spirit
Starting point is 00:22:41 of that unique Shatner cadence exactly with all those i want to meet the person i want to meet the person who's a fan like like is such a fan of like christopher walken and tries to steal his cadence that's the hardest cadence i've ever heard in my life that is the toughest i feel at home speaking right speaking of wait by the way you do a great um jimmy crack corn of neil diamond yes i had that stuck in my head jimmy crack corn and i don't care what however you did it only that is the only impersonation that i can do that's actually close to it it's really good it's it's it's only
Starting point is 00:23:21 because when i was a kid i used to watch watch Transformers and G.I. Joe after school on WPIX. And they would always, in between the shows, they would play a commercial for Neil Diamond's greatest hits. Oh my gosh. And I could only get the first few lines. I've never owned a Neil Diamond record. I've never been to a Neil Diamond concert. I've never seen a Neil Diamond movie. All I know is that he sang a bunch of songs
Starting point is 00:23:52 and they went like, turn on your hot light. Very good. Let it shine wherever you go. Oh my gosh, you are amazing. Everywhere around the world. Oh my gosh. They come into America. It's his only impression he does not. Oh my gosh. You are amazing. It really is. Around the world. Oh, my gosh. They come into America.
Starting point is 00:24:05 It's his only impression he does well. Oh, my gosh. Love rocks. Oh, my gosh. That's sweet, Caroline. Ain't no surprise. Now, it's the only, all the years I've known him, Heather, it's the only impression he does well.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Yeah. Like, they tried to get me to do Aaron Neville. I can't do Aaron Neville. You can. I don't even. I can't do Aaron Neville. I don't know. I don't know.
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Starting point is 00:24:30 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know because they didn't, maybe that's why we chose it because we didn't have to pay for it.
Starting point is 00:24:45 By the way, all the songs in this episode, Heather, sometimes now that these shows are all streaming, some of the songs had to be replaced because the contracts they signed for the original show didn't extend to streaming. So this episode I thought really suffered because there was some good music in this episode that is all gone.
Starting point is 00:25:03 I don't know if you guys watched on... I didn't notice Yeah, I did watch it on Hulu, but I didn't Well, the end is supposed to be a Nelly song, right? And that was not the song. Yeah, if you want to go and take a ride with me Ride with me Might be the money Yeah, no
Starting point is 00:25:22 And then... Wow. But anyway, so I just wanted to say that the show ends and it's supposed to be like we're on a rooftop in downtown LA and it's like, and then I was really noticing that that song, whenever they replaced it. What was the song? Well, whatever it was, someone went in. I think it was Randall. Randall Winston.
Starting point is 00:25:40 He admitted to it. Oh, yes. Oh, you know Randall Winston. He did Spin City. Yeah. Yes. he admitted to oh yes oh you know Randall Winston he did Spin City yeah well he told Donald and I that he was the one
Starting point is 00:25:47 who had to oversee someone going hey we gotta fill in these slots and so I don't know they're not nearly as good but I guess if you have the DVDs
Starting point is 00:25:56 you're the only person with the real all the real original music but we usually watch I think I do should we get into the recap let's get into the recap because we got
Starting point is 00:26:04 the Heather Locklear here. Oh, do that. Jenea Bakken wrote this episode. She's a very good writer. I mean, do you want me to do the 30-minute recap? Oh, sorry. The 30-second recap? Not the 30-minute.
Starting point is 00:26:13 30 minutes, 30 minutes. Sorry, I forgot. Heather, we have a new thing there. Donald. It's not new anymore, but we keep forgetting it. Zach keeps forgetting about it. I love it. I don't know why I forget about it. I love it. I don't know why I forget about it.
Starting point is 00:26:25 I love it. I don't know either. Listen, it's anxiety for me. I freaking sit down and I really think about it. And sometimes it's good. Sometimes it's not. That's how it goes. Anyway, Heather, he is going to sum up the whole episode in 30 seconds.
Starting point is 00:26:38 And then together we'll go through and really parse it all out. But now I get my stopwatch out. Hold on, Donald. Okay, listen. This might be a little bit longer than 30 seconds, but I don't care. Well, I really like it when you at But now I get my stopwatch out. Hold on, Donald. Okay, listen, this might be a little bit longer than 30 seconds, but I don't care. Well, I really like it when you at least try to get 30 seconds. But then I might miss out on things and stutter over my words
Starting point is 00:26:52 because I'm so nervous. This is very nerve-wracking. But here we go. Get ready. On your marks, get set, go. This episode's about a bunch of things, but mostly it's about double standards. Turk and JD are fine if they rob the hospital, but not each other.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Cox hates the fact that his girlfriend has baggage, but winds up having his own. Elliot loves the perks of having daddy take care of everything, but longs to make her own career decisions. This is an important episode because at the end, all of them are moving forward in their personal lives. Turk and Carla are at the next level of their relationship. Jordan and Cox are going to start a family. Elliot is stepping away from her comfort zone.
Starting point is 00:27:31 And the hospital is becoming more of a backdrop, meaning this is a sneak peek of what's to come. Oh, shit. That was amazing. It was amazing. It was 39 seconds, so in some ways you failed. But let me tell you how you didn't fail. Listen, I don't give a shit if I fail. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I don't care if I fail anymore. I don't care because it could be, I'll do a minute one next time. I want to give you a genuine compliment. I'll do a minute one next time. Good for you, Donald. I want to give you a genuine compliment,
Starting point is 00:27:58 Donald. That was real. I'm not, no bullshit. That was a very good summary. And you actually highlighted things that I didn't even see. I saw what you're saying in terms of the episode being about new chapters in a sense, but I didn't think of it in the macro like, oh, this is a shift in the show
Starting point is 00:28:17 in that we tease the marriage, we tease Johnny C and Krista getting back together. We tease Elliot going off on her own. Right. Elliot separating from her parents and being financially independent. And then J.D. realizing he's about to be in limbo at the end of the episode. Right. J.D. nervous about losing his best friend because Carla says the word we about Turk and her. And he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:28:43 What's happening here? Am I going to lose my best friend? So my point is, that was very good, because your summary was not just, hey, here are the facts. It had some insight into it. I will gladly give up those nine seconds of failure to get the insight. Appreciate it. Thunderous applause, Dan.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Thunderous applause. Dan, Dan, I'm going to approve that thunderous applause. I wonder if we should make it so when we add these thunderous applause sound effects, if we both need to approve, it's like, you know, in the nuclear code where they both have to turn their key? Oh, yeah. That was my favorite part of Superman 3 with Richard Pryor in it, where he's pretending he's drunk and he has to put the keys in at the same time and he makes a little not a concoction but like a little
Starting point is 00:29:30 levy using another person if you ever get the opportunity. What about the beginning of War Games? What about the beginning of War Games when they go, Turn your key, sir. Turn your key and he puts his gun. That was a great scene. Love it.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Sorry, Heather, we sometimes have trouble staying on topic. That's okay, gun? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that was a great scene. Love it. Sorry, Heather. We sometimes have trouble staying on topic. That's okay. I love it. It gives me things to look for. This podcast should be called a digression. That's okay. It's good. I feel some people on the web were commenting, like, I really enjoy it, but they don't always talk about the episode.
Starting point is 00:30:01 I'm like, well, guys, that's the show. This is the show. That's right. That's the show. The show is there, right? The show is this. Right. We also have Joelle and Danil. Okay. So they talk about things out of nowhere. Yeah. All right. So the first thing I laughed out loud was when I walk in, Carla is in the apartment and I pick up our taxidermy dog to hide my, my tidy whities.
Starting point is 00:30:26 And Donald walks in and goes, don't use rowdy to cover up your giblets. The dialogue is excellent. What a weird word for, what a weird word for. What a great word. For growing giblets. I like it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:30:43 It sounds like a, what is it? A gizzards to me. Like what are giblets? What are giblets? I like it. Giblets? I love it. It sounds like, what is it? Gizzards to me. What are giblets? What are giblets? It's the extra stuff you don't- My biscuits are burning. My gizzards.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Giblets are the stuff you don't use when you cook a turkey, right? A chicken? Or a turkey? A chicken or a turkey? Whatever. I don't know. I don't know. You take it out of that bag and-
Starting point is 00:31:02 I don't know. Go ahead, Joelle. Go ahead, Joelle. What is the culinary term for edible offal of a fowl. It typically includes the heart, the actual gizzard's liver, and other organs. There you go. I know what those other ones are. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Yeah. No one cooks chicken penis. You never know. It might be a delicacy somewhere. I was about to say, you never know. You never know. It might be a delicacy somewhere. I was about to say, you never know. You never know. Heather, do you like eating weird stuff, or are you conservative? No, I eat what's weird, giblets.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Well, I'm not saying you eat giblets, but do you eat like... You know, when you're out and about and someone says, ooh, try this weird food, do you do that? Because I normally don't. I'm like, no, I'm going to stick with what I know. Have you ever had snail? Have you ever had snail? No, I've never had escargot.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Escargot? I have. That's good. But no, I usually ask for someone else to taste it first and look at their face. Donald, are you an adventurous? I don't think you try to be too crazy. No, no, no, no. I don't fuck around with food.
Starting point is 00:32:03 You like what you like. I don't fuck around with food, man. But you like sushi. I do like sushi. And I like, listen, texture is a big deal for me. And if I know what it is, and then the texture is what I imagine it would be like, then I have a problem with it. Like, somebody was like, do you like beef tongue? And I was like, absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:32:22 No. And it's all because when I was younger I tried it and my grandmother made it and I tried it and it tasted exact well it didn't taste like but it felt in my mouth exactly what I thought a tongue would feel like if it was cooked up you can always like just check your own tongue and it's probably like that yeah that's exactly what it was it was like chewing on your own tongue and I was like I'll never ever never ever, ever, ever have that tongue again. You ever see it in the deli counter? There'll be just a giant beef tongue. It's really gross. Tongue.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Oh my gosh. I don't like that. With all those buns, those taste buds. And people eat brains, too. They eat cow brains, right? Yeah, no, I don't. You know, it's a delicacy in some places. It's like watching Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. Chilled monkey brain. Yeah, as we've talked about, that movie gave me nightmares.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Yeah. This was a big episode. Yes. For me in particular, when I look back at it now, it's even bigger. Ken Whittingham, the first black director Scrubs has ever had, directed this episode. Yeah. I think this is his first time directing it, too.
Starting point is 00:33:28 And Ken's a very good director, and he became one of our regulars because we love Ken Winningham. He's gone on to direct so many shows. Yeah, he's a big success. He's directed pretty much everything. He's directed pretty much everything. But I remember thinking about, oh, they hired a brother. Okay. So that was good. I mean, that made you feel like, okay,
Starting point is 00:33:45 obviously about time, guys. It's like middle of season two. How about some people of different minorities that are directing the show, right? We had a woman? We'd had a couple of women direct already at this point. Maybe Gail Mancuso, I think. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Yeah. But I mean, now this is 20 years later. This is still a big conversation isn't that crazy yeah it's what it is man it's you know you know we still got to make these moves but it's it's it's what it is and it's time for it's time to change that you know we got to restart coming up soon so let's let's uh let's do it now now in the in this i think in a good way there's a mandate making sure people do it. The networks and the studios have really said,
Starting point is 00:34:29 when we made our show, Alex Inc., they said, no, we want, it isn't like, oh, you guys can do whatever you want. It's like, no, we would like a certain amount of minorities to be represented. We'd like a certain amount of women to be represented. And I think that's really great and only getting better. I agree with you 100%. Let's go to break, guys. We're going to go to break and be right back with Heather Locklear.
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Starting point is 00:39:11 That's right. Were those real tears or did somebody have to muster that up? No, no. I mean, when I'm doing a dramatic thing, I can get myself there. But in a comedic part, no way am I just going to start bawling. All right. I want to just going to start bawling. All right. I want to ask you,
Starting point is 00:39:27 I want to ask you to do it. Can you do that? Can you cry on cue? No. Right. It's very hard. I want you to tell the garden state story, dude.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Tell the story of Natalie Portman and tell the story of you, the two different versions of crying in that movie. Well, Natalie is very good at that. Natalie, like some actresses I know can, and Sarah chalks, another person I i know who can do this can kind of go off in the corner for a minute and get herself into a head place oh yeah and then and then do it and cry for me and then garden state she had to do that a lot because she had um some some crying um moments for me i it actually
Starting point is 00:40:02 was a blessing in disguise because when there was a scene in a bathtub, empty bathtub where we're sitting and I was meant to cry. And we shot the wide master shot first. And like I said, just being in that moment and with such a good actress and it was so real, it genuinely happened. And I cried and it was a powerful moment moment except that it was the big wide master and the camera wasn't going to see most of that. It was just sort of establishing the room. The trick for those of you who aren't in the entertainment industry doing what we do is now
Starting point is 00:40:36 you're going to do that over and over and over again. You're going to have to do it when the medium shot, you're going to have to do it when it's a closeup, you're going to have to do it when it's over Natalie's shoulder. And for me, that was close to impossible to just keep being able to emulate what had happened naturally in the wide shot. But that's the that's the task of a of an actor. But for me, it was but but I was also directing. So then I had to go, OK, this isn't going to match. And, you know, maybe it's too much. going to match. And you know what? Maybe it's too much. So I decided just to just on the spot go,
Starting point is 00:41:13 if it's not happening naturally, I don't want it to be this false. So then it became, I only shed one single tear. And then we had a joke about her collecting it in a little plastic cup. But so that was kind of how I felt. Because when I was directing, I felt like, you know, if it's forced and it's false and it's weird that i'd rather not have it even be in the in the show is that what you meant to me that's the exact story i was talking about i found that such i found that so fascinating it was like the scene was supposed to be something else and you you know you blew your wad in the first your in the master. Yeah. And now it's time to do it again. And it's like, all right, well, we're not going to get that.
Starting point is 00:41:51 And you turned the negative into a positive. And it's actually one of the more powerful scenes in the movie. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. That's pretty great. Thank you. Go ahead, Heather. Go, no, no, go.
Starting point is 00:42:02 You guys, go. I was going to say that it's a good lesson for filmmakers out there. It doesn't have to be related to tears, but about adapting. So something happens and you go – and I've had this happen when you're directing something, whether it's a music video or a giant feature film. Every day something is going to happen where you're going to go, okay, that's not according to plan. Is this a blessing in disguise? to happen where you're going to go, okay, that's not according to plan. Is this a blessing in disguise? So for me, in this example, Donald's talking about, it was like being able to cry nonstop for, for hours was just not going to happen. It just wasn't what my head wasn't in
Starting point is 00:42:33 that space. I was also directing the movie and had so much anxiety going on. So then it was like shifting. Well, what if it's not that maybe, maybe bawling like that is, is way too much for this character. What if it's, what if, what if it's actually a joke that all I can produce is one tear and we laugh about it? So sometimes just going with it and coming up with a new plan on the spot is one of the most crucial things of being a filmmaker, but also a lot of blessings in disguise can come out of it. Usually when I'm in that place, the director says, don't blow it on this master. It's going to be for a second, and then we'll come in and do that but i do find what you said i mean i
Starting point is 00:43:10 i don't think heavy tears unless it's like for whatever reason is called for i think the real moment is when you're in the moment and if it comes it comes but usually your face and your heart starts to happen and all kinds of stuff. And it becomes more real rather than showing something and trying to get to show something. It's whatever else happens. I agree. And it never feels as good. It's a pet peeve of mine when you watch so many movies and TV shows where someone is crying but there aren't tears coming down their face. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Next time you watch a crying scene, notice if the person has actual tears in their eyes because a lot of times they're scrunching up their face and making the noises, which is just a huge peeve of mine. If the moment – if it's a necessity and the project needs it, there's menthol things people blow in their eyes. There's all sorts of tricks. Like if it's mandatory, go do it. Go fake it. But don't do the there's no water in your eyes, crunch up face thing. I hate that. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:07 I feel like Jane Fonda did that on Golden Pond or something. She talked about that. She had no more tears left. I don't remember something like that. But, yeah, I think whatever the real moment is, is if there's not a tear, yeah, just don't fake it. Just go. Yeah. People have reactions about stuff, and it's no tears come
Starting point is 00:44:25 out of course and also sometimes even as a writer i find myself writing something where i'll go you know in the script i'll write uh she she hears the news and instantly breaks down uh crying and like and then you think in reality a lot of times people that doesn't happen at all you might cry later but in the moment of hearing it you're just fucking dumbfounded you're sitting there like like you know what i mean and and i you have to catch yourself as a i have to catch myself as a writer going be very sparing with with with with tears the direction and yeah of course because that might happen naturally but also it can get especially it's tricky when you're writing i'm one of the things i'm i'm working on now is this is this drama and i have to fight you have to find those moments so it doesn't feel like, oh, my God,
Starting point is 00:45:08 there's all these tears. And how do you do that when the stuff you're talking about is very heavy? Well, what happens in real life? Donald and I just had a friend die. Of course I cried. I know. I'm so sorry. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:45:21 But nine times out of ten, I was more sitting there like this, dumbfounded with my head in my hands and my jaw dropped. So you've got to remind yourselves about what's real, what really happens. I remember doing a scene for Dynasty. I don't think I've ever been angry in my life up to that time. And I was angry, but I was so angry I started crying. And I think they were like, what the F is she doing? But that was a real emotion for probably just for me, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:51 because being angry and that brought it about. But they ended up keeping it. Did they use it? Oh, good. Yeah. See, I love that stuff. I love happy accidents, you know? Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:00 In the comedy world, we are always, you know, it goes without saying you're trying to keep those moments in. We riff something. Oh, for sure. But in the drama space too, you want to be like, oh my god, Heather got so fucking mad she started crying. Eureka, that was natural. That was real. Keep it.
Starting point is 00:46:17 That's the stuff. That's the precious things we all stumble into. Yes. Yeah, it's amazing. When we started, it was comedically. I can never do it comedically. Right. That Meg Ryan scene in freaking When Harry Met Sally,
Starting point is 00:46:32 when he comes over and she's crying because she's going to be 30 soon, and he's like, when? She's like, someday. And she's crying. But it's there. That's one of the best scenes ever in the history of that that scene right there that was your favorite comedic that's your favorite comedic crying moment i yeah easily one of that is my favorite comedic crying sarah chalk sarah chalk
Starting point is 00:47:01 was good at at doing it for real on this show because she had times, I think even we've talked about it, where she had to be like, you know, crying pretty much on cue, not even from a dramatic moment, from like something funny. Right, I've seen her do that. Yeah. It's pretty hard, I think. Yeah. Analgesic. Now, I didn't know what an analgesic was. It's aspirin.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Yeah. But we've always laughed at this joke because your patient thinks it's analgesic and. It's aspirin. Yeah. But we've always laughed at this joke because your patient thinks it's analgesic and puts the pills in his butt. In his butt, yeah. That's so good. It's a great joke. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:36 It's great. It's pronounced analgesic. The pills go in your mouth, sir. Yeah. Now, I didn't know what that was. Did you, Donald? You didn't know either, right? I don't know how many people got that joke at the time.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Well, no, the joke is it. The joke is actually when you tell them that it's not on your butt. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Who gives a shit? I guess it doesn't really. Right. Exactly. Okay. You're right. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Who cares what it really is. The joke is old man. Don't put these pills in your ass. Right. Exactly. That guy, I think Donald, if I'm not mistaken, he was like a regular go-to old man we often use. Was he in a bunch of episodes?
Starting point is 00:48:15 I've seen him a few times be like the go-to ancient old man. You want to ask Wiki? Or is this something that wouldn't show up in the Wiki? No, Wiki's not going to know that, and we haven't given him his Funko Pops. Dan, are those his Funko Pops behind you? Look, I didn't know if you... Dan has his Funko Pops right behind him.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Dan, I didn't know if you purchased those for yourself or if they were for Scrubs Wiki guy. I acquired them so that we could get them signed as fast as possible. Okay. Heather, you might want some of these. They're Scrubs Funko Pops. We have a Scrubs Wikipedia-type page where you can look up facts on the show. And so we got the guy who helped curate this whole thing with a bunch of other people.
Starting point is 00:49:00 And he comes on the show every now and then and answers questions for us. Right. But he's not really into it. Like, he's kind questions for us. But he's not really into it. Like he's kind of into it, but he's not really into it. So we're bribing him. So we're bribing him. Like a technical advisor kind of guy. Somewhat of a –
Starting point is 00:49:13 Yes. That's a great way to put it. That's a good way of saying it. He's technically advising. He's like the keeper of the scrub's Bible. Right. Oh, that's great. I guess so.
Starting point is 00:49:22 He's like the keeper of the Scrubs Bible. Right. Well, yeah, I guess so. But we've got to bribe him with Funko Pops, otherwise he doesn't do his job well. That's what I think. What is a Funko Pop? Oh, show for Heather. They kind of look like bobbleheads.
Starting point is 00:49:35 They're a very popular thing. They're grown-up action figures is what they are. They're action figures for grown-ups. It's kind of like a bobblehead, but these ones don't bobble, I don't think. Right, Dan? These aren't bobble ones, right? No, they're just static vinyl toys.
Starting point is 00:49:49 There are Funko Pops that bobble. That heads pop. We didn't get those. Okay, that's very cool. So if your daughter is truly a fan of Donald Faison, I know it's from Uptown Girls, but you could get her
Starting point is 00:50:02 a Donald Faison Funko Pop. You know, her boyfriend would be destroyed. Okay. Get it for him. Break them up. Break them up. Break them up. Break them up.
Starting point is 00:50:14 That would be the coolest thing ever. I could walk around and say that I broke them up. The craziest thing is if my daughter wore that dress behind you. Oh, my God. She might like it. Well, then my wife would probably break up with me. Break them up. I like that.
Starting point is 00:50:33 So there's this pressure, as we understand it, for women, young doctors to go in to become OBGYNs because they make a lot of money. So we have this thing uh where the gyno girls are are coming after that was funny and then jd goes into his fantasy and they're having a pillow fight and they start making out and then he gets interrupted so he never gets to see any of the fun sex right and then he tries to go back into the fantasy and she says i'm i'm very glad that we experimented with each other, but I'll never do it again. That will never happen again. He's missed the whole dreamy fantasy.
Starting point is 00:51:11 I love the fact that when Heather and Cox are walking through the hallway and she's saying hi to all the other doctors and everything like that. He thinks she's just flirting. And she's like, no, no, no. I slept with them. Right. I know, Heather. Heather, unabashedly, the character's like, he was like, thinks, oh, you're bribing them
Starting point is 00:51:35 because you're selling pharmaceuticals. She's like, no, I slept with them. I like that about her, though. She was like, no, you get to fuck around. Why can't I fuck around? I mean, and that's my motto, too, by the think that's i think that's everybody i think we're starting to gear into that being everybody's motto now like there shouldn't be any stand like that's what i was saying this show is such about it's this episode in particular is about double standards you know what i mean and how to and how we and how we tackle double standards. This dude's so bent out of shape that you slept with guys at the hospital.
Starting point is 00:52:07 But he's got a pregnant lady in his back pocket. You know what I mean? It's like, come on now. You can't be Judge Mitchell. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Exactly. That's right. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Now, Heather, did you have fun working with our pal, the legendary Johnny C. McGinley? Because it looks like you guys had great chemistry. He was so much fun. And everybody talks so fast on that show. I was like, oh, my God, here I am, William Shatner again. But, no, I had a great time with him. And, yeah, he was very, very fun. I really adored him.
Starting point is 00:52:39 You guys had such good chemistry together. Yeah, I did. Thanks. You did. You had a good banter. And I'm sure Johnny C. was excited when Bill was like, oh, and your love interest
Starting point is 00:52:48 for the week is Heather Locklear. Who knows? I don't think so. I'm sorry, what'd you say? But it was, he was really fun. John C. McGinley was single at this moment, too.
Starting point is 00:52:59 He was like, huh? Huh? Huh? Yeah, he did the Ralph Glamour. Huh? Heather, we were talking about in the episode before this one, because you're in that one too, about these pharmaceutical reps who are often attractive women and they flirt with the doctors. Did you know about this before?
Starting point is 00:53:17 Yeah, did you know about it? I did know about it. They were like, oh, yeah, they take all the doctors to lunch and they flirt with them and give them all the, you know. And, yeah, I did. I was very well aware. But my favorite line was anal leakage and the thing I got to say. I loved saying anal leakage. I think I might have ruined a couple of shots.
Starting point is 00:53:37 That could be a good ringtone, guys. Another one. Another one. Another one. Heather Locklear saying anal leakage could be your notification. Oh, lovely. But yeah, so that, but I did, I was aware of that. Yeah. Because we were talking about in the last episode, how it's such a thing where they hire, they recruit these beautiful women who doctors are going to want to flirt with and go to
Starting point is 00:54:03 dinner and drinks with. And we kept this going. You know, you bring all this swag to the hospital. And the mug, actually, if you see, there's an earlier scene in this where I'm holding, I'm drinking coffee out of a Plomox mug. That's the brand. Oh, my gosh. And then I think, Donald, didn't we keep it going for like a long, many seasons? Yeah, Plomox shows up in the hospital. There was always Plomox stuff all around.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Oh, my gosh. All the swag you left stayed around for years. Now, here's something I wonder. You know, they always say beautiful women doing that. But are there beautiful men doing it? Because there's female doctors. That's a very good question. I think there are.
Starting point is 00:54:38 I'm sure there's hot guys. I had a handsome friend from high school who became one of those guys. I definitely think they lean to being good-looking people because – Yeah. I don't know. I think – again, I just remember knowing about this 20 – over 20 years ago because I knew girls who did it and they were all very pretty. And they would tell me. They were like, you won't believe how fucked up this is.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Like people don't know. People don't – I remember a girl from my high school telling me, you don't, you can't believe the data we have on these doctors. Like the shit we know. We know when they're prescribing it, what else they're prescribing, if they're not prescribing that,
Starting point is 00:55:16 how many, how it's compared to last month. When we gave them a big incentive, that trip, look how much the graph showed, how much they prescribed it more. Oh my gosh. And I just couldn't remember, I remember being like, this is so fucked up. And then I thought it would be like, big incentive, that trip. Look how much the graph showed, how much they prescribed it more.
Starting point is 00:55:25 And I just could remember, I remember being like, this is so fucked up. And then I thought it would be like, I thought it'd be like discovered and over. It's like payola back in the day of the radio station days. And no, it's still going on. It's still going on today.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Like, aren't the doctors aware that this is happening and they're being duped in a way? Oh yeah, but they want the sushi lunch and the golf trip and the pretty woman, I'm sure. I would love to go play golf with a pharmaceutical rep. Get me out of the hospital for four hours.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Perfect. Yeah. And sometimes it's like a golf retreat. All you have to do is go watch the Plomox video, and then you're on a golf retreat. Right. Sipping mimosas by the pool. Donald, we have to let Heather Locklear go because we only asked her. Yes, listen.
Starting point is 00:56:05 We only recruited a legend for an hour, and we can't keep her. You're funny. You guys are funny. But, Heather, we really want to thank you. I love you guys. Thank you. We love you. We really are big fans.
Starting point is 00:56:17 It's so good to see your faces. We were both genuinely nervous, so I'm sorry if we spoke fast and nervously. No, no, me too. So I'm right with you. So thank you. It was a pleasure. But it was such a big deal to have you on the show. I remember when it happened and they were like,
Starting point is 00:56:33 we got Heather Locklear and me being like, holy shit, how the hell did we get Heather Locklear? Because you had a good show. Yeah. Well, thank you very much. But it was such an amazing moment to have you on the show. And then still having an in also because we had spent the summer together doing Uptown Girls. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:56:53 That was crazy. It was really nice. And you know what? It was such a joy for me to do because it was so different from what I was doing. And the writing is excellent. The show is great. And you guys are great. And et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Well, thank you, Heather. We really appreciate you coming on. Thanks, you guys. And it's good to see you. Good to see you. Bye. The show is great. And you guys are great. And et cetera, et cetera. Well, thank you, Heather. We really appreciate you coming on. And it's good to see you. Good to see you. Bye. Take care.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Bye. Do we have a caller? Um, we do. We do have a caller. Um, um, are we going to take him right away?
Starting point is 00:57:18 Do we have to go to break? What do we do? I think we should go to break. Let's just talk for one second about Heather Lockfield. I have to admit, I was very nervous. I spoke fast. I apologize to the audience. Let's just talk for one second about Heather Lockfield. I have to admit, I was very nervous. I spoke fast. I apologize to the audience.
Starting point is 00:57:27 You have to understand, I had such a crush on her as a young person. And I was tongue-tied, Donald. I was tongue-tied. You did great. You know what? I sensed that you were a little nervous. I was making – I was talking like that.
Starting point is 00:57:43 But I sensed it. And so I tried to throw you into a comfort zone and just have you talk about, you know, Garden State. Oh, yeah, that was good. Good alley you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I see what you did.
Starting point is 00:57:54 You're a good co-host. You said Zach's rambling nonsense. Why don't I steer him to some subject he likes to discuss directing films? Right. Exactly. I see. God, you're good. It's just because I love you. directing films. Right, exactly. I see. God, you're good. It's just because I love you.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Fucking hell I love you. I want to kiss that shiny dome. And on that note, we'll be right back. If you've been following the news, you know that from health care access to safe schools, LGBTQ plus rights are under attack. And it's about time queer and trans youth get the microphone and tell their stories in their own words. I'm Raquel Willis.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Join me on my new podcast, Queer Chronicles, a show where LGBTQ plus folks tell their own stories in their own words. This season, teens will share all about growing up in political battleground states. I wish I could feel more comfortable in my own body here, but that's just not the case. And follow along as they discover what queer and trans liberation means to them. This isn't running away from yourself. It's running into who you want to grow into. Listen to Queer Chronicles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your most fabulous shows. I used to have so many men.
Starting point is 00:59:21 How this beguiling woman in her 50s. She looked like a million bucks. With zero qualifications. She had a Harvard plaque. Tricks her way past a wall of lawyers and agents. She's got all of these Maseratis and Bentleys all in the driveway. Is it like a mansion? Yes, it's a mansion.
Starting point is 00:59:39 That this queen of the con uses to scam some of the biggest names in professional sports out of untold fortunes. About six million. Approximately 11 million dollars. Nearly 10 million dollars was all gone. Employing whatever means necessary to bleed her victims dry. She would probably have sex with one of her clients. Hide your money in your old rich man because she is on the prowl. Listen to Queen of the Con, season five, The Athlete Whisperer,
Starting point is 01:00:12 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Martha Stewart, and we're back with a new season of my podcast. This season will be even more revealing and more personal with more entrepreneurs, more trailblazers, more live events, more Martha, and more questions from you. I'm talking to my cosmetic dermatologist, Dr. Dan Belkin, about the secrets behind my skincare. Walter Isaacson, about the geniuses who change the world.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Encore Jane, about creating a billion-dollar startup. Dr. Elisa Pressman, about the five basic strategies to help parents raise good humans. Florence Fabrikant, about the authenticity in the world of food writing. Be sure to tune in to season two of the Martha Stewart podcast. Listen and subscribe to the Martha Stewart podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Hey, everybody, welcome to Across Generations, where the voices of Black women unite in powerful conversations. I'm your host, Tiffany Cross. Tiffany Cross. I want you all to join me and be a part of sisterhood, friendship, wisdom, and laughter. In every episode, we gather a seasoned elder. But even with a child, there's no such thing as the wrong thing if you love them. Myself, as the middle generation.
Starting point is 01:01:46 I don't feel like I have to get married at this big age in life, but it is a desire I have and something that I've navigated in dating. And a vibrant young soul for engaging intergenerational conversations. I'm very jealous of your generation that didn't have to deal with Instagram and Tinder. This is Across Generations, where Black women's voices unite, and together, you know how we do, we create magic. Listen to Across Generations podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 01:02:14 or wherever you get your podcasts. How about Sarah calling a vagina a bajingo? Is this something that is said? It goes on forever. It goes on forever. No, but I'm saying, like, did they make this up, the Scrubs writers? Because I've never heard a vagina called a bajingo before. I've heard it called so many things that somebody somewhere has to call it a bajinga.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Like, I've heard nanny. Yeah. My kiki. Vertical smile. Right. My nu-nu. Yeahiki. Vertical smile. Right. My Nunu, my Shishi. Yeah. My Bajanga.
Starting point is 01:02:51 My Bajanga. My Bajina. My Burjiner. My Burjiner. Yeah. My Jina. Yeah. My Jiner.
Starting point is 01:03:00 My Jine Jine. I don't like this at all. My Jine Jine. My Jine Jine. My Jine-gine? I don't like this at all. My gine-gine? Joelle, are any of those nicknames for vagina? I don't know. We'll have to Google it. I've never heard my gine-gine before. My gine-gine?
Starting point is 01:03:23 What's crazy is that you've got to kind of put it like a different, like I don't know where this accent would come from, but it's sort of like a growl. My giant giant. It's too much. It's too much. My giant giant. My giant giant.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Too much. Too much. Another one. My giant giant. Another one. That's a fun game to play Make up nonsense terms for vagina I'm glad we played
Starting point is 01:03:49 Well, you know We are who we are Well, listen Bajingo is bajingo That becomes Sarah's term for vagina It's her go-to It's her go-to Let's bring in our guest
Starting point is 01:03:59 Okay, but don't mention any of the vagina terms around the guest Dude, I'm done I'm done with it Okay I'm gonna be I'm done with it. It's got to be appropriate. Hey-o! Hi! Kelly!
Starting point is 01:04:11 And Shelly! Hi, Shelly! Who's Shelly? Shelly is my mom. So the last time I used this, we were playing Scattergories with my boyfriend who's in England. But bidet to you. Oh. Bidet to you. She took the audience members.
Starting point is 01:04:30 She took a sip of what looks like an appletini. Appletini. It looks like an appletini. I don't think it is. I think it's just water. She's wearing a Han Solo tank top, Donald. Yeah, she knows the way to my heart. Yeah, she does.
Starting point is 01:04:43 I'm going to say something real quick. Yeah, go ahead. Haley, you might just be the best guest we've ever had ever. Because she's wearing that shirt. Can you tell Donald where to get that shirt, Haley, please? Got it at Forever 21. There you go, Donald. That's not going to be me.
Starting point is 01:04:58 Donald, do shop at Forever 21. Donald's Forever 46. You know, I thought Forever 21 was the store That you went to When you were 21 I did too I thought that too But I was not 21 When I bought it So
Starting point is 01:05:10 I thought Forever 21 Meant that you wanted To look like a 21 year old That's not what it is No it means That everything under Everything is $21 And under or something
Starting point is 01:05:18 Really Yeah Joelle Is that true I think there's things For over It's it Listen I will say this
Starting point is 01:05:24 You can buy a $3 t-shirt... I think coats and bigger items were more expensive, but... Yeah, like they have record players and things right now. But you can divide it, and at the end you get 21, right? Something like that? Oh my God. This is a mind-blowing moment for me, because I, up to this moment, thought the whole concept was,
Starting point is 01:05:42 let's say you're a little bit older, but you miss feeling like a little hip. You can go to Forever 21, and you're going to look forever 21. No, no, no, no, no. You got a couple of 21s in your pocket. What? $21 bills? You got $105 in your pocket.
Starting point is 01:06:02 You can get five outfits from Forever 21. Okay. I did that math quick. That was relatively good. Where are you calling from, Haley? I'm in Soledad, California at my mom's right now. This is where I've been all lockdown. Where is Soledad?
Starting point is 01:06:19 I don't know where that is. It's about half an hour south on the 101 of Monterey. Okay. Okay. So there's nothing here. There's nothing here. What do you do?
Starting point is 01:06:32 That's bullshit. You're there. You're there, Hayley. Thank you, Donna. What do you do in Soledad, Hayley? Right now, I bide my time until I get to go back to the UK. So that's what I'm doing. And that's where your boyfriend is. Yeah. Do you want to get back to the UK. That's where your boyfriend is. And that's where your boyfriend is.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Do you want to get back to him? I do, yes. Now, Hayley, you can go to the UK, Hayley. You just have to quarantine for two weeks on your own. Yeah, yeah. Well, we're doing a visa right now, so we're working on that. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 01:07:02 And are you content to be a transplant and live there full time with your boyfriend? Yeah. I'd love to be transplanted into that country. So stick me there. I do love the UK. The UK is a lot of fun. We love it too. I'm going to be, yeah, I'm going to be transplanting there myself.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Wait, what? Yeah. You're going to live in the UK? Well, for part, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm dating a British woman and I will be spending, I'm sure a percentage of my life there. Don't get upset. I'm not moving there, Donald. I'm just saying that if, if, if I'm, if one, Haley can attest, if one is in a relationship
Starting point is 01:07:42 with an English person, you have to, you have to go there sometimes. And it's a delightful place to go. Hey, listen, they could be English person, you have to go there sometimes. And it's a delightful place to go. Hey, listen, they could be from a country you don't want to visit. Haley and I are lucky that it's a country we both love. And the food's not as bad as everyone says it is. Oh, the food's wonderful. You can give me mushy peas any day of the week. Oh my God. Do I love mushy peas? You like the bangers and mash? You like the bangers and mash?
Starting point is 01:08:04 I don't really eat pork, so I eat the mash, but not the bangers. I don't understand why we don't have mushy peas in this country. You can get them in a can, but it's not as good. Can I use your pool when you're gone? Yes, you can use my pool when I'm gone. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:08:20 I'm gonna miss you. Haley doesn't have to hear about this. We can negotiate that offline. That's alright. Just make sure all my rafts stay inflated. I'm going to miss you. Haley doesn't have to hear about this. We can negotiate that offline. That's all right. No, it's fine. Just make sure all my rafts stay inflated. Right. Anyway, Haley. Haley, do you have a question for us?
Starting point is 01:08:34 Please, please, please. Yes, I do. I had it on a piece of paper, and I left it in the other room. Go get it. Go get it. No, it's fine. Okay. So this is my fruit cups, yeah? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Yeah. Which is probably my favorite episode and i don't really know why it's my favorite episode it's the one i probably quote the most you know like the day to you sirs who walks away right um and i love the the music the first scene whenever i used to where i worked i wouldn't occasionally had to take you know a toilet paper roll or two from work and I'd occasionally be like or you steal stuff and take it back to work or take it back home um but I feel like it's a pivotal point for all the characters like Dr. Cox gets back together with Jordan JD and Turk kind of both realize that you know Turk's relationship with Carla is really
Starting point is 01:09:24 solidifying in this and Elliot stands up to her dad so I was kind of both realize that, you know, Turk's relationship with Carla is really solidifying in this and Elliot stands up to her dad. So I was kind of wondering at what point in the series did you think that your characters matured the most or whether it was how you played them or how it was written? All right, Haley, look at Donald's smug face. Does he say the same thing? Yes. No, he totally agrees with you. He gave his 30-second summary and touched on everything that you just said, and that's why he's got that shit-eating grin on his face right now. Why do they call it a shit-eating grin? You wouldn't be grinning if you were eating shit, would you?
Starting point is 01:09:57 I would not be smiling if I had to stick doo-doo in my mouth. That would be like – There must be a reason. It would be like... I get it. So it's not really a shit-eating grin. It's the face you make where you're like,
Starting point is 01:10:08 oh, God, this is so gross. And it looks like a smile, but really... Is that what it is? It's a grin. It's got to be. Joelle, are you looking that up for us?
Starting point is 01:10:16 We need to know the origin of shit-eating grin. What the... Anyway. Anyway. So, Donald, you're best to answer that because you've already
Starting point is 01:10:24 spoken about this briefly. I think this is the episode where, now, when we were filming it, no, I did not realize this because none of us knew where the show was going to go at this point. But you're absolutely right. Every story that's told in this episode goes to the end. Yeah. Each and every one of these stories. Elliot standing up to the end. Yeah. Each and every one of these stories. Elliot's standing up to her dad. This becomes her on her own
Starting point is 01:10:50 and having to make decisions on her own. And we see how crazy life is for her when she has to do that, right? She's a hectic person. Carla and Turk go on to get married and have kids. Cox and Jordan go on to have more children. Every one of these, and JD's in limbo. For the rest of the season, up until the last.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Forever in limbo. That could be the name of the show, Forever in Limbo, JD. Up until season eight, you are forever in limbo. You are the dude who has no idea. We don't know where you're going to go. the dude who has no idea. We don't know where you're going to go. But at this point,
Starting point is 01:11:28 if you were to look back after doing the whole show, this would be the episode, My Fruit Cups, where you're like, this is where they gave us a taste of what was to come. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:38 I didn't see that, to be honest. I was just kind of in more of a micro viewing of it, laughing at the jokes. There was some ones, like you keep saying, bidet, bidet to you, sir. The mention of Bajingo. There's a few classic sort of moments in here. Laverne in the beginning when she's like, you look pretty.
Starting point is 01:11:56 Right. The analgesic, the pills go in your mouth, sir. Analgesic. And your Neil Diamond impersonation. Right, with Jimmy Crack Corn, and I don't care. It's the first appearance of the Volvo, I believe. Donald, don't ruin it, Haley, because you probably know. Donald, do you know the name of the brown Volvo?
Starting point is 01:12:17 No. Malik. Yeah, it's Malik. It's Malik? We named the Volvo Malik? Yeah. I named my Volvo Malik? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Wow. And then you named your school's Volvo Malik wow is it your Volvo or I think it's JD's it might be my Volvo I don't know why did you name your brown Volvo Malik I have a feeling you may have named it I think Turk named the car I definitely named my scooter Sasha yeah for sure
Starting point is 01:12:42 you know whenever I post a picture of me on anything two-wheel, people are like, is that new Sasha? I'll like post a picture of my motorcycle and I'm like, ooh, Sasha got an upgrade.
Starting point is 01:12:58 There was that time that you bought me that scooter and it was gray. You didn't even wear it. You didn't even drive it once. I did drive it around. No, you fucking didn't. I named it Sasha Gray. Be honest. You're no you fucking didn't be honest you're gonna lie to me what are you talking about oh you named it sasha gray yeah oh and then you took it back well let's tell the audience the true story of this because it really it was hurtful to me no i had to here's the thing
Starting point is 01:13:20 no no no no be honest don't do a fucking censored version. I'm going to be 100% honest. So for my birthday, Zach buys me a scooter, a gray scooter. Named Sasha Gray. I named her Sasha Gray. That's very clever. Cousin of Macy Gray. Sure. Sure.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Sure. Sure. Let's keep Haley innocent of any naughty knowledge. Right. And the problem with it was, though, is that you had to have a motorcycle license to drive it. It wasn't one of those things where you could just, it wasn't a scooter that was slow enough that you could ride around on it and not have to have a license. So if I would have got pulled over, they automatically would have been like, let me see your license. I'd be like, I don't have a license. And then they'd confiscate Sasha Gray
Starting point is 01:14:05 and then I'd never see her again. All right, now from my point of view, Haley, imagine you're my really good friend and it's a big birthday. I think it was a meaningful, important birthday. And I was like, I want to do something like baller for you. I'm going to like, I know what I'm going to do. I'm going to ring your doorbell, Haley.
Starting point is 01:14:21 And when you come outside, there's going to be a brand new, beautiful, expensive, shiny scooter there for you. Yeah. It was one of the best birthday presents ever until we took it away. And then for years and years and years, I'd be like, do you ever use the scooter?
Starting point is 01:14:37 And he'd be like, oh, my motorcycle license. And I'd be like, oh, okay, well, you're going to get that, right? You can get that. Just go take the test real quick. And he'd be like, oh, yeah, yeah're going to get that, right? You can get that. Just go take the test real quick. And he'd be like, oh, yeah, yeah, the battery's dead now. No. Yeah, there was always a reason. There was always a reason. I rode that scooter around my neighborhood quite a few times.
Starting point is 01:14:53 Bullshit. Haley, you know what I finally did? You want me to go get Casey? I reclaimed that shit, Haley. I was like, I'm taking her back. You repoed that shit. That shit was straight up out of a Jay-Z song. Yeah, I rolled up.
Starting point is 01:15:03 I rolled up and took it back at a protest. They repoed your vehicle. Everything was all good just a week ago. That's what you did. You repoed the vehicle. I took Sasha Gray away from you. You did, and it hurt my feelings. Yeah, I understand.
Starting point is 01:15:21 Anyway, sorry we had to air that in front of you, Haley. Do you have have another question for Donald Faison or Joelle or Daniel or Zach Brown I guess I have a funny story that relates to Zach what you were talking about a few episodes ago with the Temple of Doom
Starting point is 01:15:35 yeah I have a funny I can ask my question or I can relay another silly story tell us your silly story we've answered it and if it's not funny we'll let you ask a question. We can edit it out. We edit out everything. No worries. So when I was maybe about 8,
Starting point is 01:15:51 9, 10, I noticed that What were you, 8, 9, or 10? In between there. I don't really remember. I was an adolescent. Right on. Got it. But I had noticed that there was something kind of growing on my throat area and i went up to my dad who's a doctor and i was like dad look i have an adam's apple
Starting point is 01:16:10 because i was a child i didn't know that that was not a girl thing to have right like well that's not normal so we went to go get it checked out and i had to get something removed that was growing on my vocal cords and it was as a child surgery is kind of scary so after we had done the surgery and i was staying overnight um my dad was like oh we have some movies that are at the hospital here we'll watch this one it was indiana jones temple of doom and right when it gets to the part you know when he's ripping out the heart i just immediately started bawling. Yeah, thanks a lot, Dad. Yeah, that's exactly. My mom came the next day.
Starting point is 01:16:48 She's like, yeah, she had this really bad reaction to the movie. And she's like, well, of course she did. They were ripping out somebody's heart. Yeah. And I don't think I watched it for at least another 10 years. And then I watched it again. And I was like, this isn't that bad. I know, but Haley, just like me.
Starting point is 01:17:03 It's one of the best movies ever made. But Haley and I were scarred by this film. Our parents made bad choices. How can you be upset at that movie? I love Indiana Jones. I had a whole birthday revolved around Indiana Jones later. Not Temple of Doom. The first one, mainly.
Starting point is 01:17:21 Raiders of the Lost Ark is just as scary when they open the Ark of the Covenant and it makes the dude's face melt. No, I had no problem with that. I had no problem with that. There was something about. There's a man that screams like a blood-curdling scream. He's like. Screams like that.
Starting point is 01:17:38 I backed up from the mic. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome, America. America, UK, Germany, Italy. Australia. Whenever you listen, Australia. You're welcome. You're welcome, America. America, UK, Germany, Italy. Australia. Remember, you listen. Australia, you're welcome.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Another one. Another one. A lot of people are asking. I don't mean to cut you off, but a lot of people are asking me. And I feel we need to explain this. We didn't make up another one. Oh, yeah. I just thought everyone would know the pop culture thing of another one. No.
Starting point is 01:18:05 DJ Khaled. Yes. DJ Khaled. Khalid, Khalid. It's Khaled. Isn't it Khaled? You know, some people say Khalid. Some people say Khalid. Dan, you're a DJ. What is it? Well, there's Khalid, the artist who made Talk.
Starting point is 01:18:22 And then I thought it was DJ Khaled with a more like... I thought it was Khalj khaled with a more like i thought khaled too yeah okay khaled dj khaled when he drops uh his latest tracks he will in the spirit of puffy back in the day going or or can't stop won't stop yeah his his thing is uh uh another one like here's another hit song for you guys. Yes, another one. There's that, and then there's Major Key, and then there's We The Best! Major Key means what? The song is in a Major Key?
Starting point is 01:18:54 I don't know what Major Key is. That's a question to ask Scrubs Wiki. Scrubs Wiki! Is he on board yet? We have asked DJ Khaled, and now we're going to go to ask DJ Khaled. What did you mean by major key? Another one.
Starting point is 01:19:11 Joelle, did you ever find out what Shit Eating Grin was about? Yeah, there's a couple of stories. You want to hear them? Yeah, please. Sure. Okay. So my favorite one comes from RB Smith. He's from the UCSD Astrophysics Program. And this is off of the SanDiegoReader.com.
Starting point is 01:19:29 He says the original form of this phrase was grinning like a possum eating shit, which was occasionally euphemized to grinning like a possum eating pumpkin seeds. To those of us fortunate enough to have observed this teeth together, lips apart, smile on the face of the aforementioned. Marsupial munching on the aforementioned. Sactological delicacy. He's smart. The expression conjures up a very explicit and not infrequently very apropos image. So that's part of it.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Did he say scatological delicacy? Yes. Those are not two words I've ever heard together. It was not fun to say. That's the name of my band. It was not fun to say. That's the name of my band. So it's referring to an animal who's eating shit and has a big smile on his face because the animal likes eating shit.
Starting point is 01:20:12 But it's not really shit. It's actually pumpkin. Pumpkin seed. No, no, no. That's like a clean version if you don't want to say it. If you're saying it in front of a kid, you're like, oh, he's eating. He's a pumpkin. Look at that pumpkin seed eating grin on his face. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:25 I'm going to start saying pumpkin seed eating grin instead of shit eating grin. Haley, we like you so much. We're going to end with one more question from you. All right. So I don't know if you guys remember, because I know you guys have been saying that you don't remember some of the episodes. But if there was one line that another character had that you wish you could have had to say, do you remember which one it was?
Starting point is 01:20:49 Good question. No. I like in your endo. In your endo. I say that a lot as well. I say that a lot. well I say that a lot I think I take sometimes when I'm banging this mattress I pretend I'm banging that one
Starting point is 01:21:10 It's usually something Rob quotes It's usually something Todd says I also like Neil's line The good lord didn't bless my wife That's another Pointer
Starting point is 01:21:24 Pointer. Thumb pinky. Yeah, pointer and thumb pinky. I love the knife wrench. Yes. Knife wrench is very popular. Yeah. You know, for kids. Oh, I love.
Starting point is 01:21:34 For kids. You know, I want to be the one inside of you. I thought that was very funny too. But I said that. You said that. So you didn't really answer it. You're the only man who's ever been inside of me whoa i just took out his appendix there's no need to clarify oh no okay
Starting point is 01:21:54 sorry um hayley thank you so much for coming on uh good luck getting to be with your your fella in the united kingdom thank you perhaps Perhaps I'll see you over there after we've both quarantined. Most likely you won't, but it would be nice. Donald, this is called pleasantries, Donald. I will wave to you. I'm all about keeping it real, Zach.
Starting point is 01:22:15 And the train. It's not a train. It's called the tube. Well, there are trains. The tube is only in London. Yeah, Donald, don't listen. I thought that's where you were going. Isn't the UK London? No, I'm in Newcastle. So I'm in like the north, north of London. That's is only in London. Yeah, Donald, don't listen. I thought that's where you were going. Isn't the UK London? No.
Starting point is 01:22:25 I'm in Newcastle, so I'm in like the north north of London. Oh, aren't we ritzy? No, it's not ritzy. It's not ritzy. London isn't ritzy. London is the hood, if you ask me, yo. Tonight on Donald Talks About
Starting point is 01:22:42 Different Neighborhoods of London. All right. Bye, Hayley. Thank you so much for calling in. Thank you so much. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Take care, Hayley. Bye. I once saw Lisa Marie Presley in London.
Starting point is 01:22:53 Really? Yeah, like at a show. She did a show. It was like, my buddy was like, Lisa Marie Presley's performing. You know, first of all, I'm glad we're all finally alone now because i feel like we had to be great for heather and then we had to host hayley who was delightful but sometimes you just want to just curl up on the couch with your friends and and just shoot the shit you know no i totally agree yeah so let's just let's relax i going to undo the top button of my pants and just, I'm going to kick my shoes off.
Starting point is 01:23:27 Let's pack a bowl and let's just fucking relax now. Amazing. No more house guests, no more visitors. Okay. Just us. Let's get, let's get fetal on the couch and watch alone. And that's the show, ladies and gentlemen. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:23:44 It's not. We got more to do. So Krista Miller's back on the episode. Krista Miller's back looking gorgeous and pregnant. And pregnant. Is that William in her belly? That must be Will in her belly, yes. That's amazing.
Starting point is 01:23:57 When I told Casey that, she was like, holy cow. This was that long ago? Because William is a, what is he, a senior in high school now? Yes, he must be. And he dunks. He can dunk. And he plays basketball and he got the game? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:13 You guys are seeing him in this episode in utero. And now he dunks. If you want to see him do it, you can go to Bill Lawrence's Instagram. Yeah, Bill Lawrence on Bill Lawrence's VDoozer's Instagram. You can see his son dunk. How about at 10.13 when I go, I told you, you smoked the ganja! Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:34 That was improbbed. That wasn't something. Oh, really? That was improbbed. I remember it was something else originally. That was funny. Yeah, I remember laughing so hard when you said that, too. And I remember thinking, that'll never make this episode. That'll never make this show. Yeah, because we weren't allowed to talk about weed back then.
Starting point is 01:24:48 It was so scandalous. Now, I want to know something. I read on Scrubs Wiki that your Brady Bunch trivia here is wrong. I don't know nothing about it. Listen, I don't know nothing about the Brady Bunch in the first place. So I don't doubt it. Okay, well, Turk is quite wrong here, and I'll tell you why. I can't back it up, though, because I don't know shit about the Brady Bunch in the first place, so I don't doubt it. Okay, well, Turk is quite wrong here, and I'll tell you why.
Starting point is 01:25:06 I can't back it up, though, because I don't know shit about the Brady Bunch. I'm just telling you so you know if it ever comes up again in your life. When Turk tries to prove his knowledge of the Brady Bunch by describing exactly which episode J.D. is referring to, he's incorrect.
Starting point is 01:25:20 He claims the episode, quote, Marsha Gets Creamed, end quote, was in, by the way, you could never name a show that today, was in season five, episode three, while it was actually episode seven that season. So somebody fucked up. We can blame who wrote this. Janae. Janae. Who wrote this?
Starting point is 01:25:41 Janae, you fucked up, okay? And you're a Northwestern grad. I expected more from you i really gotta hand it to christoph in this episode you know uh making fun of herself and uh you know making fun of the fact that she's pregnant and being so vulnerable she did such a great job and the scene in the bathroom where she's crying you know and uh that felt very raw and real. Yeah, it did. You know, and I remember when my wife was pregnant and there were days where she didn't necessarily feel like, you know, she was the sexiest person on the planet. And I remember just thinking, wow, she's so beautiful.
Starting point is 01:26:17 She's so beautiful. And I feel like that's what Cox was going through in this episode you know uh regardless of him dating uh heather locklear's character and everything like that there's something special about when you see somebody who you love and they're carrying your baby inside of them that you just think they're the most beautiful human on the planet like i did i just i just remember looking at Casey and being like, holy shit, she's so beautiful. And she'd be like, I got three chins! And I'd be like, I don't give a shit. You could have 20 chins.
Starting point is 01:26:52 You look so beautiful. I love all three of them. Right, you know what I mean? Well, I bet, you know, Krista's a really good actress, but I also bet that, you know, she was legit pregnant, and I'm sure that she could call upon those feelings when she's sitting on the bathroom floor feeling undesired by Dr. Cox.
Starting point is 01:27:10 I thought that was a really nice scene between the two of them. Yeah, and it was a good fake out too. Yeah, that was clever how they had to do that. So Johnny C grabs two things of whiskey. Heather's on the couch. By the time he comes around, it's been changed to Krista.
Starting point is 01:27:23 And she's like, you know I can't drink that, right? He's like, yeah, they're both for me. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. Now, we've said it a couple times, but this is one of the greatest lines in Scrubs history in this episode, 1309.
Starting point is 01:27:36 I have one of those French things that shoots water up my butt. Bidet? Bidet to use, sir. Clever. I said bidetet That was very clever Heather has a line that's funny When she disses Kristen She says
Starting point is 01:27:53 Anywhere anybody looks They'll see you That was fucked up And How about when I scare you In the ambulance And you scream That was funny
Starting point is 01:28:03 Yeah and Yeah I was gonna say Dude such a you scream? That was funny. Yeah. And yeah, I was going to say, dude, such a good scene, man. That's one of those moments. You know, we've worked together for a really long time. And you have. And I've seen, I feel like I've seen most of your tricks. You've developed some new tricks that I haven't seen in the last 10 years because you've gone on to work on other things and everything like that. haven't seen in the last 10 years because you've gone on to work on other things and everything like that but this is one of those well this is one of the first times where we had done a season of
Starting point is 01:28:30 of scrubs together already and i hadn't seen you play this uh this this side before where it was like you were you were thinking you're really thinking about it in the scene and it disturbs you but it doesn't disturb you to where you're like kind of fucked up about it but it's like holy shit life's changing for us and i had never seen you play that before and i remember watching this because i watched it like two uh two hours ago and thinking if i remember correctly i remember zach not knowing how he wanted to play this scene and we worked on this on his side for a bit and this is what he came up with and it works so well dude it works it's like it's it's one of those moments where you know
Starting point is 01:29:20 you're in awe of the moment as an actor but you're also you want to keep it grounded like so she said she said you said we no she said we you know what i mean and uh that could have been played so many other ways it could have been underplayed but you played it very thoughtfully and i thought that was so amazing thank you thank you Thank you for saying that. You know, on this show, it was always you and I so easily went into the silly stuff. Right. Because that's who we are and that came naturally to us. But then there's always these great moments, and this scene is one of them where we have this sort of heart-to-heart where we would have to shift our brains a bit and be like, no, no, no. Go out of broad silliness and, like, drop in and be just totally real and
Starting point is 01:30:05 straight with one another. And I think that's one of the things that made this show special to a lot of people because, because it had the, it had the ability to do that. It had the ability to drop in and be real. Yeah. And, and, and, and that's, I mean, yeah, obviously that's the reason why we, we ran for so long, but that's such a special thing, man, for me now to go back and look at the things that we did in our past and the things that, you know, it's a lot like what this episode is about, you know, just to look at, you know, moments that we had back in the day and really appreciating them, you know. I miss the camaraderie that we had i don't think i'll ever in my life experience what we experienced when we were making this show again
Starting point is 01:30:54 and you know you search for it and you try to create it with other people and sometimes you even fake it but you know we were also young but we were also young and i mean first of all yeah of course uh nine year runs on a show with great people it's not something that happens multiple times in a lifetime necessarily but also we were young and so wide-eyed and so um excited and really savoring it i think and now you know, you know, you have a family, you know, we all have grown up, we've got other things going on. I don't even know that we would, I don't even know if it's recreatable in a new environment.
Starting point is 01:31:32 You know what I mean? Yeah. I can't imagine myself spending, like, I can't imagine myself spending the amount of time that we've spent together with someone else now, you know, other than my wife. And the hours too, man. I also don't want to work that hard. I don't mind working those hours.
Starting point is 01:31:48 I love working, but when I look at this show, how much, I mean, we were just non-existent. Well, you worked a lot of hours. There were times where you just didn't do, but. I just didn't leave. There were times where I thought about sleeping in that fucking hospital. Yeah, no, not me.
Starting point is 01:32:04 But I never did. Listen, the rooftop that ends this show, wasn't it downtown LA? I don't know. I would like to believe that it was. It could have been Joseph's. No, it wasn't. It was a fancy rooftop. And I believe that we went downtown LA for it.
Starting point is 01:32:22 But Scrubs Wiki is saying that it was at UCLA. And I think it might be wrong. They're saying it's the roof of Covel Commons. And we're going to give this to freaking Funkos, man? No, listen. He deserves Funkos for the services he's already performed. They're giving us false, false. It's false, though, man.
Starting point is 01:32:39 Definitely, where at UCLA was that? He says, well, Wiki, or it's not just him. Him and his thousand minions say Covel Commons, but that would be Westwood, and that's not Westwood in the end of the show. Right, Dan? Do you want to ask Bill? Do you think Bill would remember? Bill's not going to remember either. He's not going to remember that.
Starting point is 01:32:58 Let's ask DJ Khaled. DJ Khaled, at the end of this episode, what building are we on? I believe it was downtown. Some are saying it's a UCLA property, which is Westwood. What are your thoughts on this? Zach. Major key. I got nothing.
Starting point is 01:33:19 I really honestly don't even have a DJ Khaled impersonation in my repertoire. If you watch Scrubs on Hulu, they play a DJ Khaled commercial about somebody brushing their teeth. And DJ Khaled's like, circular motions. Do another one. What if I do DJ Khaled, but as an impersonation that I'm good at? So you, the audience So you just have to, you, the audience will just have to pretend this is how he talks. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:33:51 He talks like Aaron Neville. Another one. I don't remember where you guys shot that scene, but I don't think it was UCLA. It was downtown LA. That's how DJ Kyle talks in my mind. Oh, man. Aaron Neville's rolling over
Starting point is 01:34:18 in his grave right now. Did Aaron Neville die? I don't know, but he's rolling over in his grave right now. Why is he rolling over his grave if he's alive? Well, that's something Charles Barkley says. Oh, okay. DJ Khaled, is Aaron Neville dead? No. He's very much alive.
Starting point is 01:34:39 We should probably end this fucking show. We're losing our minds. Great show. Listeners, we love you. What? Go ahead. Why is the janitor stealing a computer? I don't know. He goes through the whole episode.
Starting point is 01:34:50 He's trying to figure out who's stealing all of these drugs. I think the reveal is that he's the one stealing everything out of the hospital, right? Well, no. He didn't steal the drugs, and he definitely didn't steal the pudding pops, the pudding, because we did. Right. Hey, guys. We had a great time with you today.
Starting point is 01:35:04 Yes. Sorry for anything that went wrong. the pudding because we did. Right. Hey, guys. We had a great time with you today. Yes. Sorry for anything that went wrong. We want to thank Heather Locklear for being on the show. Yes. We want to thank Joelle and Daniel. Joelle and Daniel, you guys are amazing. Thank you, listeners all around the world for tuning in and for having to giggle with us. And we hope that this audio this this audiophile finds you smiling
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