Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - 309.5: Our Favorite Fan-Calls

Episode Date: November 24, 2020

In the real world, it's Thanksgiving and we are TIRED. So, Joelle's taking over the feed to recap some of her favorite fan-calls, and give thanks to the fans who took this show, and made it their own.... Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:56 iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, it's Joelle, and I know this isn't what you're usually used to hearing when you turn on fake doctors, real friends, but it's Thanksgiving weekend and the guys needed a break. Daniel needed some rest. Zach needed a break. Uh, you know, Donald's probably hitting that Peloton before the Turkey comes. We are tired, but we also know that you guys have missed hearing from us. And to be honest, we don't like leaving you without an episode. It doesn't leave a good feeling in our stomach. So this week, I decided to round up my four favorite fan calls, condense them into one episode and call it fan appreciation. Guys, your messages, your beautiful artwork, you know, I don't know if you guys know
Starting point is 00:02:47 this, but you're a part of the show. When we pitch to advertisers, when we talk to people at large about the show, it's first Zach and Donald's relationship. That's obviously the first pillar that everyone looks to. It's our guiding light. It's the love between those two. But the second thing we talk about, it's always you guys. It's the fun that you bring to the show, our favorite fan calls. You know, we look forward to those every week. And so this week, we're going to honor you guys, honor the fans, the people we are thankful for. So yeah, I'm really looking forward to this I picked some calls and the funny thing I noticed about the calls is that all of them have like special guests on so it's not just you know Bill who we love we have his first call on here but you know also Shay there's something special in
Starting point is 00:03:39 those episodes that goes beyond just our typical episodes. When we have a guest on, we're getting other stories. We're getting new perspectives. We always learn a little something about ourselves. And when you add the fan call to that, it's chaos. We never know what's going to happen. And it's turned out some of our very most best, our most memorable experiences. So I've collected them here to share with you. I hope you guys enjoy. And without further ado, 5, 6, 7, 8. Here's some stories about a show we made
Starting point is 00:04:18 About a bunch of doctors and nurses And a janitor who loved to hate I said here's the stories that we all should know. So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald. The first fan call I chose came from Mark. Now, this is all the way back in season one, episode three. And what I loved about Mark's call was that he got into the idea of what guy love meant to a lot of straight guys. And it's extra fun because Bill is here and he called Mark an evil villain for having a cat in his lap. Delightful. Enjoy this relic.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Bill, we take a caller here on our show, and it looks like... By the way, I just thought it was a supervillain, because it is a gentleman that is got a cat on his lap. For you guys listening at home, his picture came up on Zoom, and he's petting a cat like
Starting point is 00:05:20 the evil genius. Like Dr. Evil. You all are enjoying talking about your show. Well, I have bad news. That's funny. All right, Joelle, go ahead and introduce him. Yes. Hi, Mark.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Thanks so much for joining us. Hi, everyone. How are you? Can you hear me? Yes, we can. We hear you just fine, Mark. This is my first ever Zoom meeting. I've never done this.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I'm glad it's working. I'm glad you're here. Well, Mark, you picked a good episode to be on because we have the curator of the whole show, Bill Lawrence. So if you have a question for any of us, go ahead. Well, hello, Bill Lawrence, and hello to all of you. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:05:56 I'm so glad to be here. Where do you live, by the way? I live in Chicago. I'm on the northwest side of Chicago up in Avondale, Old Urban Park area. We were just talking about Neil Flynn. That's the area of the world that he is from, my friend. Really? Oh, I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:06:12 But not your specific area, but he's from Chicago. He's not downstairs right now. I mean, he could be. All right, go ahead, Mark. Even from the earliest episodes, Scrubs wasn't afraid to raise social issues and took a clear stance that I thought prioritized, like, well-being of people over the economics and insurance bureaucracy. I felt like this helped a lot of young people, myself included, start thinking about the human side of health care and health care, like, as a human right for the first time and sort of some of those more serious issues. So I was just wondering if you guys recalled any specific moments from
Starting point is 00:06:46 production episodes or moments on set that might've changed or influenced the way you guys view the sort of work done by your characters or just sort of the healthcare system as a whole. Wow. I'll let Donald and Zach answer this for the show. I will tell you, I've been thinking about this a lot lately, Mark, because the real JD and my pal, we were both kind of screw ups with a lot with very little direction as young guys. And I remember asking him what the hell he was doing, going back to pre-med. And he talked about wanting to be of service, you know, and his viewpoint right now, you know, not to make this too poignant. And his viewpoint right now, you know, not to make this too poignant, I FaceTime with him every night when he gets off work because he's running the COVID command center.
Starting point is 00:07:32 He's running the whole ICU for this hospital, as we spoke about. And it helps him decompress and not take that stuff into his family. And he, as a caregiver, cares so much more about the humanistic side than any of this other bullshit. And he instilled that upon me. And he said we could steal all of his stories, but we could never have a callousness. He said he was only interested in me stealing his stories and his life and his name if the undercurrent of the show was that it was about a bunch of people, flaws and all,
Starting point is 00:08:03 that cared most about helping and taking care of other people. So that was part of the series, and I'll leave the rest to Donald and Zach. But that's cool that you asked that because I think about him every day. He's out there doing stuff much more important than this. Of course, and it's the perfect question for this era, Mark, because these medical professionals and everyone who's working in the industry, whether you're a doctor, a nurse, or a janitor, a medic, everyone who's in this environment,
Starting point is 00:08:31 the world is finally seeing in the spotlight how heroic these people are. And I think I always felt when we were making this show that Bill was really shining a light on how dedicated these folks were and how they had to deal with life and death every single day. One thing that really stood out for me when you asked your question was that I remember learning that the nurses really run the show. I hadn't spent much time in a hospital when we started making scrubs. And I learned that the doctors can't do it without the nurses. And the nurses are the ones who are on the front lines
Starting point is 00:09:09 and the doctors have to be rotating and they can't do anything without the help of amazing nurses. It wasn't until I spent more time in hospitals with both my father and my sister getting sick that I really, and this was after Scrubs, but I remember being like, wow, this is everything we were doing is so real. I'm witnessing it on the front lines that we see that doctor like every now and then, but man, these nurses, and when we have a good one, it is such a difference
Starting point is 00:09:33 and puts a smile on my sick father's face. And when we have one that's a little bit aloof, it just drives you crazy. And I just really, it really came home to me, everything we had been doing on the show, how crucial and how important the people on the front lines, particularly in this anecdote, I'm telling the nursing staff of hospitals were to me. The one thing that really sticks out for me is to piggyback on what Bill said, is, you know, for some hospitals, if you don't have insurance, you can't get treated. And the one thing that scrubs
Starting point is 00:10:06 did which i thought was amazing was we had a bunch of the doctors on the show were a bunch of rule breakers benders especially when it came to something like that you know what i mean that was always special for me because you know a lot of people don't have great insurance, especially right now, a lot of people don't have it. Or any insurance at all. And any insurance at all. Thank you, Zach. And tests cost a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:10:33 You know what I mean? And if there are rule breakers and rule benders out there that can save lives in that way, I'm all for that. You know what I mean? And I love that we had people on the show like Dr. Cox, when Kelso's trying to get this person out of the hospital, Cox comes up with so many different ways to get this, to get this guy a bed. And I thought that was just amazing.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Hey Mark, we obsess so much about your question, all in terms of the character, Dr. Kelso. There's an episode that you guys might remember. I remember the song and the scenes that because the real J.D., he runs a hospital now and he's like, and you're forced with having to make these decisions for the greater good. And there's an episode in which Dr. Kelso, you know, has to punt a guy, you know, from treatment. They don't have insurance, don't have money in an effort to still build other stuff and to have money to save other people. And we made this joke about how every time Dr. Kelso's foot hits the bottom of the stairs when he leaves the hospital, he starts whistling as if the day doesn't even affect him. And at the end of that episode, even he, because he knew he was directly responsible for his guy not getting care, his foot hits and he has a moment.
Starting point is 00:11:44 You can see it's really hard for him to start whistling again. There's a Citizen Cope song called Sideways playing. And so we just wanted to make sure that the people weren't the villains and that the system was. So, yeah, I'm really grateful that you noticed that and asked about it. Awesome. Thank you guys for giving such detailed, great responses. I think it just speaks to how much you guys feel for this show and put into this show it really comes across i think that's why i've been such a big fan for so long so thank you thank you mark thanks so much for asking your question do you want to ask another question
Starting point is 00:12:14 oh sure all right you get one more all right so this episode episode three uh and the show as a whole i think has a lot of moments that exemplify really healthy, often sensitive male relationships, both your guys' Turk and JD, and JD and Dr. Cox and other ones. And I was just wondering if you guys could maybe talk a little bit about what was important to you guys to have positive sort of emotional moments between bros and how that might have affected your real life relationship? I think that's a great question. I'm glad you asked it with Bill on the show, because for me, I really felt in a positive way. Granted, we joked about it a lot, but I felt in a positive way. We
Starting point is 00:12:56 were showing, you know, when we were growing up, I mean, when Donald, Bill's a smidgen older than us, but when Donald and I were growing up, you know, anything you did that was emotive towards a guy, you were called gay and it was derogatory and it was negative. And it was just an adjective in high school and junior high and middle school and everything was, and I always, as someone who was, it's no surprise, I'm similar in a lot of ways to JD. I always felt like, but this is who I am. I am a guy who is a hugger and who's emotional and
Starting point is 00:13:27 wears his heart on his sleeve and loves musicals, who happens to be a heterosexual. And I felt like Bill wrote a character, a friendship that was like, well, we're going to show that that's okay to men in a way, because I've noticed it in my life. The fact that Donald and I would hug and stuff. I did a Broadway show and Scrubs fans the, to the stage door and they'd be like, JD, can I have a hug? And I would always kind of laugh. It was almost like the show was giving a certain community of men telling them that it was okay to, you're not going to, no matter what your sexuality is, who cares? It's not going to be threatened by being like JD, just being who you truly are. And I always thought that that was a really positive thing that Bill put out there.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Yeah, I love the fact that the two of them were so comfortable around each other that they could be like brothers and lie in the same bed in their underwear and it not be a thing for them. You know what I mean? I like that. And I think that storyline definitely transferred into my real life with Zach. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like my comfortability about being around other men and,
Starting point is 00:14:39 and not being afraid to be who I am and accept who they are is all because of Scrubs. You know what I mean? I've played best friends in other projects and, you know, you play the tough guy, et cetera, et cetera. But with these guys, none of that stuff mattered. What mattered was that they loved each other at the end of the day. And I cherish the fact that I can have friendships with men and I can say to them, I love you and it not be looked at as a bad thing. It's a weird topic for me because you know, JD was based on real JD. Donald was based on doctor, but the truth is with these
Starting point is 00:15:19 two characters anyways, I always joked around that I was kind of wrestling with both sides of myself because I am. I played sports and was the high school jockey type guy that was afraid of this stuff. And on the other side, I do. Zach and I share a love of Broadway musicals. Bill can sing Les Miserables in French. Go, Bill. Qui est moi? Peux-je condamner cet homme pour servitude?
Starting point is 00:15:44 All right, whatever. And the whole show. Was that cool, Fener and uh you take the watch they may was that who am i light donald that's a digression we'll sing lame is in later episodes okay the uh uh so i was always wrestling as a young man with you know which which lane i fit in and wishing that it would be easier just to not have to pick a lane. And then these guys, look, the truth is, whenever you create a relationship as a writer, it's yours for a second. And then the actors, if they're great, they wrestle ownership from you. And what starts out as 80, 20 years, you know, quickly in this show became 50, 50, mine and theirs, yours, you know, quickly in this show became 50, 50, mine and theirs, and then became all theirs in a way that I would write moments that weren't supposed to be bromance moments, you know, like
Starting point is 00:16:32 whether it was them wanting to hug each other, you know, at the end. And then when I look in the dailies, they're rubbing their faces and heads against each other. That's my favorite meme my favorite gift is that favorite gift is the one of me and people are always like you're using gifts of yourself i'm like yeah that one i do because it really looks like we're trying to smell each other dude that really looks like by the way i think one of you ad-libbed in that you smell like an athlete in a way that you're just so happy. So my point is, I was doing it as an intellectual exercise and these guys made it something more. And it's all about their, you get lucky on a TV show when what you're watching feels even more real because the undercurrent of it, their intense friendship is real.
Starting point is 00:17:20 You know, I also like that when we meet people nowadays they're so eager to talk about their best friend and how much they love their best friend you know what i mean and that that that makes me feel great you know he's the brown bear to my vanilla bear or you know what i mean i honestly think it gave us a certain community of men who watched the show and were open to it a sort of permission to to to be more true to who they were. Mark, if you want to, if you want to indulge, my version of Googling my own name is I'll occasionally go looking at all these wedding videos where the best man sings guy love to the groom.
Starting point is 00:17:57 They're fantastic. There's like a thousand of them out there. And it always starts with a fake setup. He's like, you know, I was trying to think of what to toast and what to blah, blah to blah blah that i thought it's probably better to do in song than taste the facts and then the groom the groom always stands up with a microphone too because they've rehearsed it 20 times and i'm at home by myself just going like this lauding i love it all right mark thank you for two awesome questions yes thanks for having me that was great. All right.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Stay safe. Nice meeting you, Mark. Hey, stay safe, buddy. Take care. Be healthy. We will be right back after someone talks to you. Bring a little optimism into your life with The Bright Side, a new kind of daily podcast from Hello Sunshine.
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Starting point is 00:22:14 she wrote to me and said that she was breastfeeding and that the latching situation was as we described on the show. And so I thought it would be fun to like maybe trip up the guys with, you know, an actual breastfeeding mom. But Kate came on and blew us all away. And then I've had great conversation with Casey. Oh, man, I really enjoy this conversation. So without further ado, here's Kate. And we're back. We have Chase Serrano, Zach Graf, Jerome Malik. I'm Donald Faison, and we just connected to... Oh, boy. Here we go, Kate. She's pulling a Sarah Chalk. You're muted now, Kate. Unmuted, Kate. Unmuted.
Starting point is 00:22:55 This is very Sarah Chalk-esque. Now you're one step away from dropping your iPad in the tub. No. Oh, no, no. Kate, hit the microphone on the bottom left. The microphone on the bottom left. The microphone on the bottom left. Kate, you see that red? Might change your audience.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Did I do it? Yes. Joelle, I warned you in my email that I'm kind of like a real-life Elliot, and I just knew this would happen. I knew this would happen. Kate, I'm going to say something. Kate, it looked like you gave up
Starting point is 00:23:22 even before we said her mic was out. Yeah, she was like, fuck it. I'm not even going to say something, Kate. It looked like you gave up even before we said her mic was up. Yeah, she was like, fuck it. She was like, I'm done. I'm not even going to do fake doctors anymore. I don't even want to do fake doctors anymore. I didn't want to be on this fucking show anyway. It's very hard to get on this show. I don't think you give up if your mic's on mute just for a second.
Starting point is 00:23:37 I think you really, right, Joelle? You should focus. Yeah, she got it, though. You sift through a lot of people that want to be on this program. I am. I am so prepared. I mean, I have like a hairband, a mask, a martini, a water bottle. This isn't let's make a deal.
Starting point is 00:23:55 You're not going to need those things. I mean, I'm I'm currently hiding from my family like you, Donald. And like I have been sitting here like you're not gonna fuck this up listen no listen in all seriousness kate there's no wrong answer all right if you say anything horrible it'll be amazing people love it i think i think okay so you like to go by zielinski oh well my my sometimes when i'm mad at myself, I call myself by my maiden name, which is Riley. Okay. Um, so that's why I stuttered. Cause I usually, when I'm like Riley, you know, that's like, so I was trying to say very Elliot-esque. You're very improving
Starting point is 00:24:36 to be very Elliot-esque. That was, that was a lot like Elliot going. Yeah. It's, it's, it's real. It's, it's not a great way to go through life guys. Well, uh, welcome to the program. It's not a great way to go through life, guys. Well, welcome to the program. It's called Fake Doctors, Real Friends. We have the legendary writer and personality. What are you besides a writer, Shay? You're a philanthropist. That's all. You're a writer.
Starting point is 00:24:58 You're a philanthropist. You're a Twitter superstar. It's getting worse and worse. Shay Serrano. Yeah. a Twitter superstar? Getting worse and worse. Shay Serrano. Writer, philanthropist first, then Twitter superstar. As an OnlyFans, if you're interested.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Oh, Shay. I'd go on Shay's OnlyFans. All right. Donald, have you ever been on an OnlyFans? I don't think we're allowed on OnlyFans. No, I'm not allowed
Starting point is 00:25:19 on an OnlyFans. I don't think our women would support us. Well, you're paying money. I wonder, I wonder, I wonder, I really do wonder what OnlyFans is like, because it can't just be somebody
Starting point is 00:25:31 on OnlyFans just sitting there naked like, this is what I do. Well, isn't it just like, I don't know, Joelle, do you know what it is? Isn't it just like a strip club, but someone's house? Why you gotta go to Joelle? You can come to me. I've lived with a lot of sex workers over the years, camboys and girls and such let's talk about that wait sorry kate you can mute your mic again that you will you live with sex
Starting point is 00:25:57 yeah there's a whole era of joelle y'all know nothing about. Wow. That sounds like a good podcast. Yeah. One day I'll talk about my college days. But yeah, the kids, you know, they enjoy it. They love they love the only fans. And yeah, it's just it's just amateur porn, essentially. But the cool thing about only fans, you're paying the sex worker directly as opposed to a large company or getting it for free. You know, so the cam. Sorry to interrupt interrupt but the cam
Starting point is 00:26:26 things they take a giant cut whereas this goes directly to the person and they can control how much it charges and all of that stuff so there's some issues with the app that i'm not you know knowledgeable enough to talk about it but do you think that donald and i could make like two four like 24 million or something like that controversially 24 million not 24 million or something like that? Very controversially. Not 24 million. Not 24 million. How much did she make? A lot. Like 20 something million is what I was thinking.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I thought it was two million. Then she said she wasn't going to do anything nude. And everyone was like, well, then what do we all pay for? And then she was like, hey. Right? Pretty much. Pretty much. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Hi, Kate. Sorry, Kate. I feel like we should tell them why I picked you. Sorry, Kate. Go ahead. We digress. Joelle, I don't know if you picked me because of my signs or because of my situation or. We can do situations and then sign because I really wanted to.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Yeah. Okay. Well, Zach, I am so touched at how protective you are of we nursing mothers who are fans of the show. Yes. Because, you know, people will tell you, even in like La Leche League. Let her speak, Donald. Way to go, La Leche League and everything. But they'll tell you, you know, breastfeeding is the most natural thing in the world.
Starting point is 00:27:40 And it's like, nope, it's hard. It's really hard for a lot of us. Not everyone can do it. And we just have to feed our babies. And the latch thing is real. The open wound nipples thing is real. And you're sobbing at five in the morning trying to give your child nourishment. And so I don't listen to your podcast while nursing because of Donald's loud voice. But I just wanted to ask Joelle. mean i listen every week i'm an enormous fan of the podcast and the show but no no no because i want i want the oprah voice donald i
Starting point is 00:28:16 do i just don't want to have her cake and eat it too donald she'll never get it she wants the oprah voice she just doesn't want it while she's dealing with a tricky tricky latch here's what you did here's what you don't know kate zach was being facetious when he talked about the latch and everything like that he doesn't care about your nipples he doesn't care i do i care about kate's areolas and let me tell you something i had so many people tell me uh that that they listened while breastfeeding and i thought thought it was very charming. And of course, if I was breastfeeding, I would get lost in a good podcast too. It's perfect. You're stuck at home. And it's also COVID. So it's not like I get an escape by being like, I'm going to go to a movie and sleep in a movie theater. There's nothing to do. I'm stuck at home.
Starting point is 00:28:59 I'm on the couch. I'm nursing. I'm pumping. I'm holding my mama's boy, baby boy. And so there's not a lot to do, but I listened to the podcast in my car because I still do my family's grocery shopping. And I listened in my car and I sit in the grocery store parking lot with a drive-through coffee for like 10 or 15 extra minutes. And then I get home and I'm like, the lines were so long. Cause I'm just hiding from my family so you guys are my escape and that's what I told you well yeah thank you Kate you have a decision to make then because I will make a promise to you right now that I won't yell anymore so you can listen while you're breastfeeding no don't do that Kate while you got your life I would I would never I cannot take I
Starting point is 00:29:40 will give you that or I will give you the parking lot. Which one do you want? She wants the parking lot. It's her me time. You know why? Because if I took away the Oprah introductions from all future guests, I would, I would hate myself. Yes. A lot of people only, a lot of people only listen to the show to hear Donald's Oprah voice.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Kate Zielinski. Fuck them. It's all about you, Kate. I'm doing this for you and only you. Are you kidding? This is the first thing that's been about only me since my toddler's school shut down and my job ended in March. Like, this is the thing that is, this is the only thing that's been only me. Kate, you sound like my wife.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Hold on. I'm going to go get her. No, don't go get her. I love your wife. Why are you getting her? Oh, Jesus. Oh, because i know why because she's fixing to rant about donald not helping enough and i'll bet he thinks this is going to be some couples counseling if
Starting point is 00:30:33 he lets her rant on the show these people didn't tune in for fucking donald's couples counseling tuned in for a scrubs podcast um kate where do you live i live in richmond virginia um but i'm currently the reason i have like this time to do it we're currently visiting um my parents at their um lake house in north carolina so i'm that's got to be beautiful a lake house it's wonderful it's an insane beautiful welcoming house on a beautiful lake it's so nice to get away so kate we're gonna jump ahead to fix your life real quick here's my wife uh uh this is case this is casey cobb this is kate zelensky hi kate hey kate kasey your hair looks beautiful today thanks i got it colored yeah very nice uh kate uh k Kate was just sharing how hard it is
Starting point is 00:31:26 to be a mom and to have every single one of your minutes of your day go to taking care of your children and your family. And Donald said, let me go get my wife. So maybe you can speak to how you're coping and how you're making that work. Because I know for a fact Donald isn't necessarily pulling his weight. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, I have to be honest, Kate, today I left and I went and got my hair done. Good for you. You know what? I had grays all the way down to my ears. And you know what? I knew that this was the only thing i could do for myself granted i came home and there was shit everywhere and the kids ate donuts on their lunch break and you know complete shit show i'm sure but look at my my husband told me yesterday i have white trash roots
Starting point is 00:32:23 because my hair hasn't been colored since February. White trash roots. And I said, honey, that's so lovely of you to tell your nursing wife, mother of two, full-time everything. Oh, my God. And your nursing? Oh, my God. Casey, you told me once that you were like, because Kate just told a story about how sometimes she listens to the podcast and stays extra long in the supermarket parking lot. And you told me a story once where you were like, I wanted to go to Chick-fil-A,
Starting point is 00:32:47 but I chose a Chick-fil-A like 45 minutes away because I needed a break. No, it was literally the day that they announced that schools were closing. And we are not that schools were closing. They closed, you know, in the spring of last year. But then when we weren't going back in the fall and they they told us and i literally just said i'm gonna go pick up chick-fil-a for everyone i got in the car and i drove 45 minutes to chick-fil-a and cried my eyes out the entire way there it's so hard because you know what and i'm sure your husband thinks he's helping, but he's not. No. How about the breastfeeding story?
Starting point is 00:33:25 We all know he's not. I mean. In fact, we are going on our first date since October 31st, 2019 tonight. We're at my parents' lake house. They're going to watch the kids. And we're celebrating our anniversary, which was last week. It's our first date out. So I put on makeup for the first time in God knows how long.
Starting point is 00:33:43 And my husband looked at me and he was like, are in a play tonight and i was like no you just you just you just haven't seen me in makeup in a million years i don't like this husband so no like you know zach you have to like this husband because my husband is an er physician who actually has a now i like him but i wish he wasn't a making fun of your makeup and b making fun of your roots. Those two things I don't like. And C, I bet he still made you have sex when you came home. Wow. Well, Kate might not want to reveal that. Casey, okay, this is a guest in our podcast. I apologize, Kate.
Starting point is 00:34:16 I'm sorry. Sometimes it's literally just let me have three hours on the couch after the kids go to bed to not talk to me not do anything just let me watch my crappy tv and you load the dishwasher and and don't even talk to me till the next morning and that's sexual and then casey and i text about the true crime shows we're watching yeah donald doesn't watch them so casey and i are like the two women and like drinking our white wine being like did you see this one it's hard i mean it is it's true it's so hard and i don't i wish i knew how to fix it but no you i can't imagine how happy my husband is for me in this moment he like he has my daughter
Starting point is 00:34:56 fishing on the dock my mom has my 10 week old son like he was like get your shower like get you ready like he you know like he he had me go shopping for a dress for our date tonight. He like sent me to an outdoor mall with my mask. Like he is actually Zach, like he is the most supportive, incredible guy. I'm liking him a little more. You had me at ER doc. Okay. He is an ER doctor with a second specialty in hospice and palliative care.
Starting point is 00:35:19 And that takes a really special person. I've been through it. I know I've been through it with my dad and my sister. So I know who they are. And I, and actually, yeah. So yeah. Okay. I like him again. Just tell him not to make fun of your fucking roots. You know what? It's just kind of like Casey, you understand, like Donald says all the time, like, you know, it's kind of fun to shit talk your husband.
Starting point is 00:35:38 You love him more than life itself, but it's just so fun to every once in a while be like, I hate him. I do it more than i probably should but tell them about the time you were thirsty and okay i will but let me tell you one thing though a lot of the times even though we blame the husbands a lot of it is the kids because you know what we do everything without even thinking that there have been times that donald is standing right next to me and they're like, mom, I need this. And the other kid is mom, but you didn't do this. And Donald's just sitting
Starting point is 00:36:10 there zoned out watching TV. And it's, and I had, I just recently asked Donald, I just recently started saying, guys, you have another parent right here. You have to redirect because you end up doing it all yourself because you do it faster, better, and it gets done. My daughter at like nine in the morning, because she knows how to play me now during COVID, will come into my bathroom and open the shower curtain for like my once a week shower I get and be like, can I have chocolate milk? And I'm like, what's your dad doing? And she's like, watching the news. Exactly. Exactly. And I'm like, it's 9am.m no you can't she's like why and i was like fine it's just like fine yeah i don't care i give up i'll bet during covid a lot of you moms are probably have to and shay i know you feel free to weigh in shay's got kids i know a lot
Starting point is 00:36:59 of you parents must be like a lot do you go quicker to fuck it yes have chocolate milk at nine 100 that's why they had donuts for lunch today dude i feel no shame about it zizi my daughter's easy usually after her nap watches one 22 minute like winnie the pooh episode and every day she's like can i have two and i'm like you know what like you've already watched your show she's like why and i'm like fine have three have three have four your dad's in the er till midnight tonight have four i'm nursing it's true you have you have to find something that you like to do or something for you that nobody else likes to do and then you get to do it alone and you're on your own so now here's the problem now here's the problem now i've been saying that forever
Starting point is 00:37:44 babe you just gotta find a hobby. You got to find something that you like to do by yourself. You got to find what it is that you want to do. When I say that shit, I'm an asshole, and I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. But now she just spit that game to all of us. What if her hobby is you fucking do the shit for a fucking couple hours while I go upstairs and watch fucking true crime.
Starting point is 00:38:05 That's my hobby. I'm too tired to do anything else. I regret bringing my wife up to the conversation now. It's your fault, Azal. You're the one who ran and got her. My hobby happens to be kind of beneficial to the whole family. I love to cook. I love to cook.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Everything's about cooking in fact when i am nursing zach because i can't listen to this podcast because while i'm nursing because donald's so loud i watch um i say that too i tell him i watch um episodes of the barefoot contessa because she's so soothing joelle do you love her i love her goals goals goals goals i don't watch her goals but have you guys seen sorry this is a total non-sequitur but have you guys seen my octopus teacher no no i've never oh my god you guys shay i know you love good fucking shit write this down good my octopus teacher it's on. Okay, I'll watch that. If you're listening to this, don't turn off the podcast,
Starting point is 00:39:08 but jot down in your brain, My Octopus Teacher. It's on Netflix. Everybody has Netflix. And it is an amazing documentary about a man who befriends an octopus. I love your constant fear that when you recommend something, people are going to be like, fuck yeah, and turn off the podcast and immediately watch it. Well, because I think I'm a really good, I think I'm, I think I'm very good.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I think I'm very good at enrolling people, enrolling people. I can be like, listen, I can convince you. You have to watch this show. It's so amazing. I think I'm pretty decent at getting people riled up to try something, but I don't want to rile them too far. But they're like, fuck this podcast. I'm going to watch The Octopus Teacher now.
Starting point is 00:39:47 All right. We got to move on. Casey, we love you. Bye, Casey. Thank you for the advice. Your hair looks lovely. Good for you. Good colorist. Oh my gosh, she's so pretty. Yeah, she's very pretty.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Donald doesn't know how good he has it. Yeah, I do. What are you talking about? Well, that was kind of Fix Your Life. So, Dan, let's do a posthumous. Posthumous? How do you say that word? Sure, posthumous. Posthumous playing of the Fix Your Life music right here.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Kate, you're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome, Kate. Do you have a question for any of us? I know you have to go because you have date nightate um do you have a question um for for any of us uh i know you have to go because you have date night but do you have no but actually our our the other couple that's driving 45 minutes from ashville just told me they're running late so that gives me a little bit more time all right i won't take up your time but you can take up mine now go ahead what's your question yes i'm actually really glad that shay Shay's here because my first question is about cast and crew. Zach, it's for you mainly. I've always wondered how when an actor is a star of a piece, kind know other projects that you've been the star of
Starting point is 00:41:05 who directs you when you're in the scene and i don't mean like here's your mark here's your sight line i mean like you finish a take with donald in there and you know i'm sure you're not like uh donald you know a little bit less and uh you know judy uh you know that was seemed a little whiny and mean no notes on no. So who's behind camera? It's a very good question. It's a very good question. So I'll just use the scrubs example. There'd be the writer of the episode. In this case, it's Mike Schwartz. And he would be sitting behind the monitor bill of course,
Starting point is 00:41:37 would come to the very first rehearsal of every scene and he would watch it. He'd watch my blocking. He, he didn't care too much about where the, where the camera was for the specific director, especially when he trusted them. But he was basically blocking them. And most importantly, as the showrunner writer, are the jokes playing. And when the jokes weren't playing, he'd tweak them or rewrite them. And so he would see and he'd go, oh, so he could give me a note. note. And he'd be like, you know, when you do that line with Donald, you got to have more energy because of X, Y, and Z. And I go, got it, got it. And then he'd go off to go write with the writers. The writer of that particular episode would stay on set at the monitors. So very often I would, when the camera's on me and I'm directing, I would then, obviously you can tell if the crew's laughing. If I'm in a scene with Donald and I'm making him laugh, I'm feeling good about it.
Starting point is 00:42:21 On my weeks, we would have playback. We wouldn't always have playback because it's a time suck but on what i'm directing i would have a the ability to go back and play back the take and go okay that was good let's move on so i do need to be able to play back the video and then i would just check in with with whatever writer it was but you know one thing i got good at was was kind of sensing when i did garden when i garden see wish i was here being on camera and directing myself you kind of just start to get a sense of like, I know when I'm good. I know when I suck. I know when I felt weird.
Starting point is 00:42:49 I didn't like it. I mean, do you just get to the point where you can be really honest with yourself and know when you're not in your rhythm, but you maybe need that writer or that AD or someone for you to be like, was that too big? And for them to be like, yeah, that was too big and for them to be like yeah that was too big you definitely need a producer type who you trust who's fun who's a good writer i think uh and or a first ad assistant director or sometimes a cinematographer i've had a great relationship with who's who whisper in your ear something that really that really helps because i've had times where i went where i did like on alex inc i remember doing like a really funny take and i'm directing i think it's good but i'm a little insecure about it and i go to the i excited. Like sort of like walking back to the monitors and no one's there. And I'm like this, I don't like,
Starting point is 00:43:29 this feels like tightrope walking without, without a net because I, I don't know. I need fucking help. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I think that that, um, I, I much prefer it. Um, when I have people I trust that I can make, you think that's good. Yeah. The great thing about my favorite thing about acting directing is that I can steer the scene from within. So if I, if in my opinion, I want Donald to be Turk Donald to be angrier in this moment, I'm going to fucking come at him harder.
Starting point is 00:43:57 I'm going to be more aggressive with my lines because I'm trying to steer him from within the scene to get more riled up. Um, just, or, or, or like when you want funnier lines or something like that. The great thing about, you know, you would do it as an actor too, but Bill would have a certain set of jokes and then you would have like five more and you'd be like, just run them off. And it would be great because you would get performances out of us where it was like we trusted you enough because we thought you were funny enough.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Also your scope and your visual was what we trusted that enough also that we were like, yeah, man, whatever you want us to say, we're going to say that shit. So we'd get to the end of scenes or we'd get to punchlines and stuff like that. And Zach would throw new punchlines in and you trusted and go with it because of the fact, you know, that you, you've seen what he's done. And also he was just so confident in doing it. So Kate, when you say,
Starting point is 00:44:53 you know, he's like, he's like, this is a note for you. This is the note for you. And none for me, even if a director does, even if the director is acting and he does do that, Even if a director does, even if the director is acting and he does do that, the confidence that he's showing in the situation makes you more trustworthy. Now, it's not my place because I'm not directing to say to the director or to another actor, I think you should do it this way. I think you're doing it wrong. But because he directed so many episodes, we got used to it, man.
Starting point is 00:45:25 I think the first episode, it felt a little weird. But then after that, it was like, dude, whatever you want, Zach. I think that's kind of an attestment, if I may, to compliment the kind of examples that you have been for positive male relationships and mature, open men together. But also, there's a lot of egos i i i don't imagine that that's always the case when suddenly your co-star and in your real life best friend are coming out and they're suddenly kind of in this status change you know and for you to just like take a note and not just swallow it but like appreciate it and trust with that's like a very Well, and also I would say that he was rooting for me. I mean, he's my best friend and he was stoked for me. He was the opposite of an ego because he was like,
Starting point is 00:46:11 this is so cool. You're directing, you know, that was the vibe. And Johnny C2, I should say. And I mean, the whole cast. The whole cast. I never, everyone, I've been asked this before and I think I've answered it, but I'll say again. When I started directing the show,
Starting point is 00:46:22 there wasn't a single bit bit they were all rooting for me they were all excited for me bill of course was a competitive motherfucker but um the rep because he was a little like okay here's the hardest episode we've ever made but i won't fucking mention the zipline episode you already did you already know i didn't mention it i didn't mention it now on my fucking twitter feed no matter what i write people like oh is this the episode about the zipline all right fuck you guys um but no i everyone was rooting for me and everyone was supportive and uh i loved it i loved it so much because um you know donald and i can make each other laugh so so quickly and easily so when he's doing his when he if he's got a big joke
Starting point is 00:46:59 and i'm cracking up and then we're in the zone together and i go do another take and say this and then he's willing to try it you know it's it's it's so much fun it's it was amazing that's great it also it also feels like uh scorsese and de niro or scorsese and pacino you know what i mean it's like not that we're on that level or we are donald shea will tell us that tell us that we are i agree i agree she endorses that we are but but it's like you you know, Scorsese puts his friends in the movie. He's not putting them in the movie to make them fall flat on their face. You know what I mean? And so when Zach is giving you direction in everything when we're shooting,
Starting point is 00:47:35 he's not doing it because he wants to get through the day. He wants you to shine just like everyone else. He wants everything to be perfect, you know what I mean? And so where there are people that come into a situation like this and they're just like, let's just get the lines right and everybody, and we can move on. I just want to tell my story and that's it. Whereas Zach is, wants to tell his story, but he's also open to you expressing yourself in the piece. Yeah. Great question, Kate. Do you have another one since we like you so much? Oh, you're so, you're so nice. Actually,
Starting point is 00:48:03 I would like to tell you just why I actually reached out to Joelle if I could, because I just think it's crazy. Um, cause I don't believe out in signs unless they work out for me, but, um, I, I know, right. Um, but there's not enough time in the day. Uh, I was doing one of my hiding from my family errands, listening to the latest episode and the errand I happened to be doing was I was returning some scrubs to a store that my husband had ordered online that were comically large on him um because you know we're all trying to order online and it sucks we have no idea like you know and so I was listening to your podcast returning scrubs and when I walked into the uniform city store that sells the scrubs
Starting point is 00:48:46 the song everywhere by michelle branch oh our anthem yeah your anthem and it was like listen we were gonna i i thought i had her on the hook we were we were twitter dming i said would you come on the show she goes sure and i go would you play everywhere live on acoustic? And she's like, the dots came up and then they went away. And I was like, shit. It's like when you're out fishing and the fish gets off the hook. She left you on read, dog. I haven't cast again. I feel like I can
Starting point is 00:49:15 throw out my... She left you on read, yo. Is it left you on read or left you on read? Isn't it left you on read? Same shit. Read spelled the same way, dog. It's spelled the same way. At least I can brag that Michelle Branch left me on red. Same shit. Red. Spelled the same way, dog. It's spelled the same way. At least I can, at least I can brag that Michelle branch left me on red. That's true. That's true. And it was like, right. Like Zach, it was right at the, like, you know, the key change,
Starting point is 00:49:35 like the huge key change. And I was like, Oh God, this is a sign. So I like asked Joelle if it was a sign and she got back to me. I was like, I guess so. Because I never do things like this. I'm like, Elliot, I never win a raffle. I never win in anything. No one picks me. And as I can't believe I'm actually here.
Starting point is 00:49:50 You're going to win. Joelle, can we give her some free shit? No, no, I don't. I don't know. I don't need to know. Why, Donna? I mean, no.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Why are you so anti giving her free shit? No, because she blamed me for the unlatching of her kid in the beginning of the episode. I didn't. I purposely never I heard you say that shit. You said, and I know, breastfeed
Starting point is 00:50:12 while listening. You even said because Donald's too motherfucking loud. I heard you. You said it to my wife. You even said it to my wife. You even said it to my wife. Can I use my golden producer? You got bold and you said it to my wife. You even said it to my wife. Can I use my golden producer keys? You got bold and you said it to my wife.
Starting point is 00:50:27 You ain't getting shit, Zelinsky. Zelinsky, you get jack shit. You're getting too loud now already. I said good day. You're getting too loud now. Areolas all over the world are puckering up. Smash my mug on the floor. You're actually making me like, you're making my milk let.
Starting point is 00:50:42 I'm going to start squirting. Oh, my God. Squirt because I'm so sweaty and upset now. Oh, my God. She's going to squirt. I don't know if we're allowed to say that, Kate's list. Hold on. Wow.
Starting point is 00:50:52 You guys told people to wipe their balloon knots with your teeth. Yes, yes. Preferably Donald's, not mine. I can say whatever I want about my own breast milk. Thank you, Kate. Thank you, Daniel. Thank you. Kate's a good guess.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Did you see Cardi B's nipples? You mean in the video? No, Cardi B just had a nipple slip. Did you guys see this? On Instagram. I heard about it, but I did not view it. I did appreciate in the WAP video the fountains with the spring.
Starting point is 00:51:30 And in fact, in our house, a big thing that we sing to our 10-week-old is the WAP song. Honestly, Zach, I feel like a horrible human being, but instead of the hook the way it is in the song, we sing, there's some babies in this house.
Starting point is 00:51:49 And now my daughter has started, she'll be like doing Play-Doh and she'll be like, there's some mamas in this house. There's some mamas in this house. And I'm like, oh my God, is this okay? That's amazing. Kate, do you partake of GT's Kombucha? Do you like the Kombucha?
Starting point is 00:52:04 Yeah, would you like some GT's Kombucha? I do, I love Kombucha. Okay, let's sendake of GT's kombucha? Would you like some GT's kombucha? I do. I love kombucha. Okay, let's send her some GT's kombucha. I love it. And I love the plainest, most like, you know, the ginger that, you know, I love GT. I love kombucha. I've been drinking this one right here.
Starting point is 00:52:19 The aqua kefir. You got this one, Donald? Oh, yeah. That's my jam. I finished my martini. Oh, congrats. We will send you some GT's kombucha and we will send you some GT's aquakefir. Yes. For being such a wonderful guest.
Starting point is 00:52:36 We got to go, though, I think, right? No, you should go. We got to go because we have Shay Serrano, who's not getting nearly enough attention on this fucking episode. Oh, no, this is great for me. I got it. I got my stuff off. I sit in the background now. Shea has been replaced by areola talk.
Starting point is 00:52:50 I don't like it. Oh, boy. You've been a great guest, Kate. We're going to send you a whole bunch of GT's kombucha and have a good date night. For God's sakes, have a good date night. Thank you. Thank you guys so much. We'll sing you out.
Starting point is 00:53:02 There's some babies in this house. There's some babies in this house. There's some babies in this house. There's some babies in this house. Give it up for Kate Zielinski. There's some babies in this house. There's some babies in this house. There's some babies in this house. Kate Zielinski!
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Starting point is 00:56:31 And we're back. Ladies and gentlemen, that was Kate, and she was incredible. Our next guest caused quite the stir when she chose to read Zack for filth and turned out to be hilarious. I believe, and listeners feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, that Norcon is to this day our longest fan call of all time. And it's because she had so many creations, three incredible questions, a wonderful fix to your life. She was hilarious. She cracked Bill up, which I can attest to not easy to do we loved her and we were so grateful to have her even though she was in india and we could not send her a mug i'm sorry nor but you are a living icon and we're absolutely going to have to have you back on the show soon
Starting point is 00:57:17 so i won't take up too much more time let's get into nor and we're back And we're back And we're back And we're back And we're back with Noor Khan Khan Oh my god Khan
Starting point is 00:57:40 I'm so sorry I'm so sorry to the fans Nora do you get that all the time do you get that all the time no she doesn't Nora hi how are you hi okay do you get that all the time Nora
Starting point is 00:57:57 no no one does that and the poor people were jogging I have no earbuds left I backed up from the mic I'm going to alternate it. I don't think I've ever been introduced like this ever in my entire life.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Noor, it's very nice to meet you. Have you ever seen Star Trek 2, The Wrath of Khan? I'm not a Star Trek fan. Yes, Noor, thank you. I'm not a Star Trek fan. I'm not a Star Wars fan. I'm sorry, Joel. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Oh, my God. Don't worry. You're a Scrubs fan. Ladies and gentlemen, that was Noor Khan. Noor Khan is done for the episode. Oh, God. Oh, my God. I can't believe this.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Oh, wow. Noor, it's so nice to meet you. Welcome to the program. We have a very special episode because we have a surprise guest, Bill Lawrence, the creator of the whole darn thing is here. So you can ask us anything. I have so much to ask you, but before I get into that, I just want to, I have been watching you guys for so long.
Starting point is 00:58:57 I have, I think, watched the series start to finish over 30 times uh since 2004 nor that's uh that's almost that's almost 30 times more than donald's seen them okay so um it's it's my happy place uh it's my husband's uh cheat code to my mood so like if i'm in a bad mood, like, you know, I'm on my period and, you know, usually you need to give women chocolate and wine. No, you just need to put on an episode of Scrubs and I'm like, yes! And I hate it that he has,
Starting point is 00:59:36 like, he knows this Achilles heel of mine. I hate it so much. But he also uses it very, very much. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. Donald wishes he could put on scrubs to calm down his wife when she's on her period. Listen, she don't even have to be on a period.
Starting point is 00:59:55 My wife just don't like me, man. I'm convinced now. I'm just convinced. I'm guessing today hasn't been the best quarantine day. No, the past, ever since school went back it's been tough yeah well i'm sure there's a lot of i'm sure there's a lot of parents out there that can relate donald who are uh who can empathize with you you should know nor donald pointed out while you were waiting that my wife is essentially playing herself on the show so so so for me i don't think i don't So for me, I don't think Pop it on,
Starting point is 01:00:28 or maybe Zach did, yeah. I don't think Pop it on an episode is going to help me. Yeah. She's a great character, so if that's how she is in your life, you just hit the jackpot, my friend. You know, you would think that, and yet it's also very, very scary. That's okay. You know what I always think, Bill? I think that, that. And yet it's also very, very scary. That's okay. You know what?
Starting point is 01:00:45 You know what I always think, Bill? I think that, and you've said a version of this, but I think it's kind of, I mean, this is maybe stupid to say, but the universe kind of gives you who you need. And you and Donald both have very tough, Krista, I'll give a capital T, wives. But because you guys have big personalities, they keep you in check. And sometimes that's very hard, but some wallflower who's going to let you do whatever you want
Starting point is 01:01:14 is not going to work for six months with you guys. I thought you were saying that Donald and I should be able to trade wives and have it be cool with them. I thought that's where you were going. Well, that's something you guys can work out. Because I don't think
Starting point is 01:01:30 it would be cool with Krista. I think it would be cool with Krista, but not for me, just for her. She's so in love with Donald. It's so upsetting. Well, no, Casey would be alright with it. Casey would be like, what, we get a pool? Krista, yeah, Casey would be like, I'll make out a bill for a pool listen i gotta tell you that krista krista does this thing that's so awkward where we're a hug we're in front of bill and
Starting point is 01:01:54 we're hugging and you know i give a standard hey good to see you hug and she's like and bill's standing right there and she'll be like don't don't don't don't let it go keep holding me i don't like it so it's so awkward and she's doing it just to fuck with bill and i'm sitting there with like a red face i don't like okay krista okay krista let go i don't like it i don't like it nor where are you calling from i'm calling from india yeah fake doctor's real friend all the way from India, baby. Wow. Ew.
Starting point is 01:02:27 This podcast is truly global, Donald. It's truly global. Very, very cool. Hey, did you get a mug? Were you able to get a mug? No, I actually haven't gotten around to ordering it yet. Also, stuff is not coming in from the US right now. They are taking forever to reach us.
Starting point is 01:02:44 So I'm just waiting for shit to get a little better. I have to say on the merch front, just as a slight digression, when Donald and I started this podcast, the people at iHeart said to us, and Donald and I don't know podcasts that much. I've listened to a few. He's listened to none. And they said, just so you know, podcast listeners really like some basic merch, a T-shirt or a mug.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Because you're building a community, and it's sort of a club, and people like that stuff. And so Donald and I said, OK, we'll make merch. That's cool. We were never in a rock band. That'll be fun for us. So it's taken a long time to get it up. And on the podcast, we've joked about all these funny merch ideas. We put up a mug and a mask and they were gone within
Starting point is 01:03:26 like three hours and donald and i have now been texting like we need to take this shit a little more seriously because people are not fucking around with fucking merch they want their merch donald there is a lot you guys can do much wise i was just like shit if i knew this was going to happen i'd get like you know a t-shirt with both her faces on it or something printed before like I got on this call but like I was like damn it you look great
Starting point is 01:03:52 you look great I was in bed when I got when I got the mail and I was like oh shit I need to start looking like a human being again and I was like ah Nor just texted me it's almost one o'clock at. Nor just texted me, Zach. Nor just texted me. It's almost one o'clock
Starting point is 01:04:06 at night. Nor just texted me that the only merch she wants is a five, six, seven, eight Bill Lawrence thing, which I think is very nice of her to have said.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Love it. Hey, by the way, can we promise Nor a coffee mug that she doesn't have to order a coffee mug, Zach, that we're going to send her a coffee mug?
Starting point is 01:04:22 Bill, stop giving away our shit. You're a guest on the show. If anybody would like a coffee mug, Zach, that we're going to send Bill, stop giving away our shit. You're a guest on the show. If anybody would like a coffee mug, all you got to do is you don't have to pay for them. All you got to do, what? I'm not supposed to do this? No, no, he's right. Listen, if you, from here on out,
Starting point is 01:04:36 from here on out, Bill Lawrence brought up a great incentive for making it onto the show. You got a mug? Yes. the show. You get a mug? I think you should get a mug. I love this idea and I'm loving that it's starting with me. So I'm going to be expecting that.
Starting point is 01:04:54 I see Joelle's sign, not for giving away a mug, but trying to get a mug to India. I see Joelle holding her head like, how the fuck am I going to get a mug to India right now? And by the way, I think it should be a rule, no matter where you're calling from, if you don't get that mug within a week, then you get a second mug. And it keeps going. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:05:13 What? Wait, what? Vin, Vin, I love you so much. I love you so much. You know it doesn't work. It's not going to work when Daniel and freaking Joel are like, hold on. No, no, no. And then a third mug.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Well, then a third mug, Zach. No, no, no. Bill, Bill. And then maybe like a five or a six or a seven, eight mug. Five, six, seven, eight? No, no, no. No, no, no. For fuck's sake, Dan, turn it off.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Bill, what the fuck? What, Dan? No. Woo! And we're back. Fucking hell. I'll do it right now. He thinks he can take control over the show.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Dan, I'm going to need the ability. I'm going to need the ability to be able to mute Bill. Now, wait a second. Are we saying your name correct, Noor? Yes, you're saying it. All right, Noor. Noor, go ahead. What do you do? Oh, sorry, Zach. I was going to ask Noor what she does there. What do you do there in correct, Noor? Yes, you're saying it. All right, Noor. Noor, go ahead. Oh, sorry, Zach.
Starting point is 01:06:07 I was going to ask Noor what she does there. What do you do there in India, Noor? She collects mugs from fake doctors. That's what I do. Well, that's a bit of a loaded question, but the short version of that is I have been a wedding planner for eight years, and I just recently, about four weeks ago uh stepped out of my company gave the whole thing to my partner because i am going to be a sustainable
Starting point is 01:06:30 farmer oh that's very cool oh my god holy shit that's dope dude it's like the documentary did you watch the biggest little farm yes we uh so my husband and i have always wanted to uh retire on a farm and do that whole thing. And then this whole COVID situation has just kind of been like, why are we waiting? That's neat. Good for you. What are you going to farm? What crop are you going to farm?
Starting point is 01:07:00 We're actually going to do a permaculture, which is kind of an ecosystem of like different kinds of things together. And we're also going to live on the farm away from the city so that I don't have to deal with people. Oh my God. So yeah. Noor, I missed if you said that you'd seen this documentary, The Biggest Little Farm. Yes, we have. I love that documentary so much. And if you if
Starting point is 01:07:25 you're listening and you haven't seen it please check it out it's it's about a couple that uh that does a version of what noor is saying where they create a sustainable farm and it's so moving and amazing and i i really loved it yeah and it was just i think and my husband and i were in uh quarantine together with like his family and everything. And we were just, you know, and Bombay is a very loud city. And during like the whole thing was so quiet and was like, we were just like, oh my God, this is amazing. Why can't we have this for our whole lives? And that's when the conversation started. Like, you know, do you really want to wait 10 years and then start?
Starting point is 01:07:59 Do you want to just do it now? And I was like, why not? Oh, well, I wish you the best of luck. That'd be so awesome. Bill, do you think you and Krista might also start a sustainable farm? Yeah. I don't necessarily think that's in the cards for us. Man, do I think that's super. Would the sustainable farm still be like a luxury four seasons resort?
Starting point is 01:08:22 Is that part of it? Yeah, Bill, you can, you can a Four Seasons resort on the farm. I'm sure. I'm sure it's totally possible. That's really cool. That is so cool. Noor, go ahead if you have a question. We're ready to answer.
Starting point is 01:08:36 So I have a few, so you can stop me whenever you guys are done answering. Go for it. Yeah, go ahead. Okay, so I'm going to start with Bill just because he's the brains behind the operation of course well
Starting point is 01:08:46 and Nora thank you I thank you so much for enjoying my podcast it's really cool I really enjoy your podcast Bill
Starting point is 01:08:53 it's amazing I was gonna start with Bill I was like oh here we go I totally I totally imagined that in season 3
Starting point is 01:09:01 of this podcast Donald and I are guests you guys as long as you guys tell me you can come on whenever you want I totally imagine that in season three of this podcast, Donald and I are guests. Right. You guys, as long as you guys tell me, you can come on whenever you want. That's the Donald. He's going to let me know what's going on.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Let's hear it, Noor. I'm ready. Go ahead, Noor. So if we were to pick up the show today, X number of years after it has gone off the air, and we had to pick up from where the boys are today and the whole cast is today where do you see the show going do you think that they'll still be at sacred heart or do you think that jd and turf would go into private practice together where do you see like
Starting point is 01:09:35 the whole show going like just because there was so much towards the end of season eight i don't consider season nine an actual season so just so I didn't want to know that. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever that was. Nor there was only one main difference with season 9, as I recall. There were two major differences. Hold up. You, or both you and
Starting point is 01:10:02 Bill were ghosts on that show. So the magic was gone. The magic dream team. I'm answering Nora's question because I want to hear Donald and Zach's answer to this. So Nora, we were talking a lot because everybody always asks Donald, Zach, and me if we're ever going to reboot the show. And what's really interesting is we've always had opportunities. But everybody on this show, A, works constantly because they're all so super talented. And B, we see each other on our own because we love each other.
Starting point is 01:10:29 So, you know, we haven't always been driven to do even for me getting to come on this show on Zach and Donald's podcast. Yes, it's theirs for me is such a cool opportunity to see two guys I love. So only recently have we been starting talking about that and thinking about what it would be and with the writers here's the question for you guys i i think that we think zach and jd and turk would always be close and we think that they would always be of service and that those two were doctors for life but the one thing that we always got caught up on is when you watch the finale of season eight and zach's voice jd's voiceover says, uh, and who's to say that all these things wouldn't come true just this once, you know, and then as writers we fight, does that mean that they all came true or does that mean that JD is hoping they came true? So that's where
Starting point is 01:11:17 we always start. What do you guys think? Cause we always started to go like, if we rebooted this, does that mean that JD and Donald's kids ultimately are going to end up together and married like they do in the show? Does that mean that those things actually happened? You know, I don't know. You know, so, so I would, because to me, that's the trap. Do you think, Zach, do you think that those things that we were showing in the finale were real or do you think they were your dreams? That's a question I've never been asked. And I'm, I'm semi-embarrassed to admit that it gave me goosebumps on my uh arm but i don't hold anything back from you listeners um i've never been asked that question bill and it's a great question and i as as as as you were talking about it i i kind
Starting point is 01:11:58 of answered it automatically and said no that was jd's fantasy of how great life could be. And then I started thinking, like, if you brought it back, it might be interesting to show that things had not gone that way at all. And in fact, they've all been separated. You know, on this podcast a lot, we talk about how we're all living life and COVID aside, happy people and doing the best that we can. But we always talk about how we miss the community of this wonderful thing that happened to us for nearly a decade. And it made me think that it might be interesting that the characters aren't together. They don't have that special bond. the characters aren't together.
Starting point is 01:12:43 They don't have that special bond. And there is some reason that has to bring them together and, and, and joy and, and community come out of bringing them back together. It's always what's messed us up, bro. You go down. I,
Starting point is 01:12:55 I, I agree with you, Zach. I think, I think you're right. I think, I think that's a better story. Joni loves Chachi.
Starting point is 01:13:00 Didn't go that long. You know what I mean? That happy ending of, of the kids being the next generation of turk and jd but it's a love it's the love story that you know turk and jd's love story is a great love story but this is the actual love story where you know uh their children are uh together i think that's too happy what are they fucking hate each other that would be fun that's my last night i think i'm true i think i know see
Starting point is 01:13:32 nor that's the problem is that i feel like you know people wanted when jd says uh who's to say my fantasies couldn't come true just this once that you want to believe that that next christmas they were all together you know and that they stayed friends and i think people would be really not happy in a in a bad way if we came up on a world that they were no longer in each other's lives so i think that's the tricky part i'd stop watching immediately no you know let me clarify what i meant then i'm saying jd and and Turk are still tight. Their kids just don't get along. That's right.
Starting point is 01:14:08 You know what I mean? Okay. Nobody gets bunked. Well, I was saying that we can be tight but separated, you know? Right. And I think that, Bill, you know this better than anything. The audience will often say two things at once. I remember when we screen tested Garden State,
Starting point is 01:14:26 they were at the very end, we had a focus group of about 20 people. I was there. No, you weren't at this one. And they said, how many of you, this was random strangers, and they said, how many of you feel like the ending was a little too pat,
Starting point is 01:14:42 the two lovers get together in the airport. And I would say like 75% of the hands went up and he said, okay, how many of you want them to be together? Every single hand went up. So as the writer, you're trying and writer director, you're trying to balance like you, obviously you want to, you want to make the audience happy, but you, you also want to subvert what they think they want a little bit. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:15:06 Bill, you can speak to that. Well, look, I'm as proud of the writing and directing I did on Garden State as I am of my podcast. Oh, my God. Do you want to know? I want to know another funny story just while I'm on the subject. So this is a story that's a total tangent. But in that same test screening, now, when you test screen
Starting point is 01:15:28 a movie and you're a director, you have to go because you have to see where the audience is laughing, where they're bored, everything like that. Now, you would never invite an actor who's in the movie
Starting point is 01:15:35 to the test screen because there's going to be a focus group after and you never know what they're going to say. They might say they don't like that actor. You would never subject
Starting point is 01:15:42 an actor to that. But as a writer-director, you have to be there. So there's a focus group in the front row of the movie theater, 20 people lined up. I'm six rows back with my baseball hat down. I don't want to spoil the sampling
Starting point is 01:15:52 and have them know that I'm there. And a girl raises her hand and the moderator calls on her and she goes, look, kudos to Zach Braff for pulling this off. I just don't find him attractive. That must have been hard. And I'm sitting there, I'm sitting there like biting my fist.
Starting point is 01:16:17 Like this is the most, and all the producers who are in the row with me, they all look over at me like, oh shit, how did that feel? And I'm like, not great. I'm going to be honest with you, that right there is a hater. That's all that is is a 100% hater. Look, look, she started the shit off with
Starting point is 01:16:36 kudos to Zach Braff for pulling this off, meaning this shit is fire, dude. This shit is fire. But he's an ugly dude. Bullshit, dude. You know is fire, but he's a ugly dude. Bullshit, dude. You know,
Starting point is 01:16:47 it's funny though. This is, I'm just thinking this out loud in real time, but this is before like social media went crazy. And, and this was sort of a live anonymous troll because she doesn't know I'm in the room and she's anonymously trolling me to the moderator, but I have to be there because I'm the director of the fucking movie.
Starting point is 01:17:07 How do you guys fix that in the movie? How do you fix it? No. They green screen his face. I don't know if you know this. Norris got more questions. Oh, sorry. First of all, I want to say you're such a fucking dick, A.
Starting point is 01:17:27 And B, we spent $100,000 and lessened my nose. We brought my nose a little in. I thought it was the green screen mask. Yeah, we reshot some angles where my nose looked too big. We wanted to please that one fucking woman. All right. Sorry, Noor. Noor, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:17:48 No problem. Okay, Zach, my next question is for you. Finally. So you've done a lot of like pratfalls and a lot of like funny falls throughout the runtime of the show. Which is your favorite to shoot and which is the one that you thought came
Starting point is 01:18:05 out best on screen? That's a good question. That's a good question. I'm going to cheat a little more. Okay. And I mean, can I, can the scooter one in the wizard of Oz count bill?
Starting point is 01:18:16 I'll let you judge. Yes. Yes. Just, just don't say the, the, the string line one where you end up in like the garbage stuff. You've said it like 20 times on this podcast.
Starting point is 01:18:25 Oh my God. I know you like that one. You know why, Noor? Because that, I don't know if you know this, but Zach directed that one. I do. Don't we know this? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:35 I know. I know. You don't even have to listen to the podcast. I listen to this podcast religiously and I know. Noor. Like he has made it show. Noor. Noor. Oh my God. Noor, you, Noor, first of all Noor, Noor
Starting point is 01:18:45 Oh my god, Noor you're very funny first of all and I love the fact that you're such an avid listener that you're like please don't say the one where you zipline because I've heard it 900 times By the way, we're going to be so fucked when we get deeper into this series because we're only on season 2 and season
Starting point is 01:19:01 1.5 and people are already like please don't tell that story i can't wait for that episode um anyway anyway nor i do love that episode but i have to say the funniest it's technically not a pratfall i guess but probably the funniest in scrubs history it's what bill always called our most expensive joke in the history of scrubs is when the scooter goes into the endless puddle in the Wizard of Oz episode. Where I clearly run into Julian, the underground manatee who doesn't exchange pleasantries. Because it involved digging two very deep holes.
Starting point is 01:19:41 They were very expensive to build because the city demanded they be built to code for safety because you can't just throw people in a hole that could collapse. And as the director of the episode, we came up with the idea that it would be a one-er, which means we did this elaborate thing where the stuntman is riding
Starting point is 01:20:02 the scooter with his helmet on into the first puddle um the camera keeps panning they weren't really connected underground obviously but it pans to the second puddle where i was hiding out underwater um and and and then one of the one of the crew members with a hammer as hard as he could banged on the asphalt so i could hear it underground which meant to pop up um because the camera was on me and uh it was very elaborate and i still think one of the funniest gags we did uh on scrubs bill you might want to talk about it do you know why that gag is so funny though because manatees seemed like the happiest creatures in the ocean and the fact that
Starting point is 01:20:43 the fact that he wouldn't return pleasantries is one of the funniest things. He was rude. He was a rude man. He was a rude man. He was having a day, guys. He was having a day. Yes.
Starting point is 01:20:56 Wait, but Bill, talk about that from the writer's room because there's no way when you guys thought of that you could have possibly thought it was going to come out as funny as it did. Because I think that's one of the funniest things. When we thought of it, the most fun was thought it was going to come out as funny as it did because I think I saw this one the funniest thing. When we thought of it, the most fun was
Starting point is 01:21:08 Randall Winston who's been on the show and is, you know, is the closest thing I have to a life partner besides my wife. He is the line producer
Starting point is 01:21:15 in charge of the budget and he came to us with the first estimates of how much that joke cost. Yes, yes. Look at you. And he came to us with the first estimates
Starting point is 01:21:24 of how much that joke cost. And he said it to me in a way that he obviously felt so unfortunately we won't do it. And in my head I was like, yeah, it feels like we should still go for it. And that was only a product of youth because now I think I would look at it and go oh man we could have i guess i don't know purchased a small home to give to somebody to live in for the price of a joke you know but that's that's movie and tv production zach i want to give you props because nora asked one of my favorite pratfalls of all time i randomly saw it when i was searching for this episode do you remember what you did when you were singing a song you made up going,
Starting point is 01:22:07 I'm feeling so good today. Do you know what that one is? I still feel good, but nobody saw me fall. Yes. So my favorite is that Zach decided to click his heels and because that's very hard to do and then fall flat on his face and get back up. And I've never seen, that was in a one-er as well, and it looks so incredibly painful and it's so well done.
Starting point is 01:22:26 I would vote for that as well. I want you listeners to know that I would do anything to make you guys laugh. I still go to the chiropractor as often as I can just because of all those years. We appreciate you, Zach.
Starting point is 01:22:37 Thank you. I do it all for my fans. Nora, you got to bring a question Donald's way now. Oh, go, sorry, Donald. Yes, I do have one. I'm going to be honest with you. My favorite pratfall is the one from the episode that Zach directed.
Starting point is 01:22:51 I hate to tell you, because of what the dude does, it's a stuntman that does it. But after he hits the wall and how he shakes like a fish in the air is one of the funniest things I've ever. I remember when he did it and laughed. I was there the night that happened, and I remember laughing when it happened and then seeing it on camera and laughing at it again. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:13 So that's... Who directed that one? Did you direct that one, Zach? I have no idea. You're such a dick. You're such a dick. By the way, I do have to simultaneously give a shout-out to the many stuntmen,
Starting point is 01:23:22 the several stuntmen that did it over the years because there were certain things i i definitely couldn't do or wasn't allowed to do and uh um and these guys were hilarious and donald uh donald is right i was not allowed to zip line into the wall and you did zip line but you didn't zip line into the i zipped i zipped line i wasn't allowed to nail the wall. What? You also weren't allowed to drive an actual scooter that had to be weighted down with lead so that you would stay underwater in the first puddle while we went over to the next puddle and you came up. Yeah. Think about that. That stuntman had to hold his breath for the whole shot. For that whole shot, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:58 Because he had to go under with the scooter and stay under. No, well, technically, Bill, we panned off of him and then he could come up. Yeah, but not right away zach not right away but i have to say not to toot my own director horn but how many directors are directing from underwater in a puddle where you can only hear with a hammer on asphalt all right all right nor um um should we have another should we give her one more i have one more question this one is to fix your life I have one more question this one is for Donald because I've always wondered this like I've said I've watched
Starting point is 01:24:30 Stubbs so many times and I wanted to get Donald's perspective on this do you wish that your character had a longer run as a single on the show instead of getting into a committed relationship right off the bat considering all the hot people that came in yes yes yes.
Starting point is 01:24:46 I felt for you so much. Yes. I love that Donald has tiptoed around it and Noor is just like, come on, buddy, be honest. Come on, buddy. Judy Reyes is a beautiful woman and the connection that she and I
Starting point is 01:25:02 have, the chemistry that she and I have is by far the best chemistry I've ever had with any female on screen. By far. I can go down the list, and nobody has ever been on the level that Judy and I were on. Comma.
Starting point is 01:25:21 Comma. Comma. I do however wish That Turk was a single For a little bit At least season one and two At least season one and two I feel for you both
Starting point is 01:25:36 No I believe it was a product of youth And I'll say all the same caveats Because Judy is so good on the show And so funny and talented But I remember And I might be making and so funny and talented but I remember and I might be making this up in my head but I remember as writers telling Judy early on that Turk and Carla were going to be together for the run of the show and her being like oh that's going to be cool to have a steady relationship to be the ones that ground it to explore what that means to
Starting point is 01:26:02 meet get married stay together have children to follow that whole arc and donald who was a young man at the time i do remember kind of telling you that and you being like really as amy smart walks by like morning donald what um all right now now now you know we have this new segment since you're a avid fan of the what alright now you know we have this new segment since you're an avid fan of the podcast and Bill is going to join us for the first time for a new segment called fix
Starting point is 01:26:36 your life nor it's time to fix your life okay alright nor how can we fix your life? Big or small? We're going to do it right now. You don't need to pay for a therapist. You don't need to pay for a handyman.
Starting point is 01:26:49 We got it. Okay. My cat suddenly scratches me a lot for no reason, especially at night, especially if I haven't fallen asleep by his bedtime. How do I get him to stop doing that? Okay. I could tell you this one real quick.
Starting point is 01:27:01 Get rid of the cat. Get rid of the cat. That's me, Donald. All right. This is, this is, this is real quick. Get rid of the cat. You don't know how to get a cat. Get rid of the cat. That's mean, Donna. All right. This has been a great episode of Fix Your Life. You're welcome, Noor. No.
Starting point is 01:27:11 As someone who is not a cat person and is allergic to cats, just get rid of the cat. Noor, I don't know too much about cats. I got to be honest. I'm more of a dog person, and I've raised a couple puppies now, so I have some experience with puppies. I do know, have you tried, now with puppies, there's a canned air thing that they hate.
Starting point is 01:27:35 If you do that canned air noise, they're like, I will never do what I just did again if you promise not to make that canned air. So I would try canned air. Another thing is a water gun. You can sometimes, I don't, most pets do not like getting blasted with a water gun to the face. Also there's, I mean,
Starting point is 01:27:53 we've made jokes about everything on Scrubs, but there's also this one episode that we did in which Zach goes down a zip line. And I think he directed that one. You watched that? You watched that on my channel? No, you should take it. I'll watch it deeply next time. and I think he directed that one you watch that you watch that you know I'll watch it deeply next time now I'm gonna be
Starting point is 01:28:10 now I'm gonna be really in my head about mentioning that episode if I love someone I love it my only thing is I just didn't want you to say that that was your best your favorite. Okay.
Starting point is 01:28:26 Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I truly believe that if you want to make it so the cat stops scratching you, you got to get rid of that cat. No, no, no. He's my pride and joy.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Donald is joking on behalf of pet lovers everywhere. You're going to keep that cat and you're going to tame him. I am. You're going to tame him. Yeah, he's also a human cat. Try the pet corrector and or a water gun, and I guarantee you that we have just fixed your life. Fixed your life.
Starting point is 01:28:58 You're welcome. Thank you, guys. You're welcome. Thank you. All right, Noor, it's been an extraordinarily long segment because you've been so darn charming. We thank you so much for coming on the show. Noor, come back and report on your life.
Starting point is 01:29:10 I think what you're doing is so cool and interesting, and I bet you these guys would love to hear it. And if you do it, it's free mugs for your whole family. Thank you, Gil. Oh, my God. Thank you. I have 59 people in my family. Just FYI. I understand. I understand. Oh, my God. Thank you. I have 59 people in my family just F'ing. I understand.
Starting point is 01:29:27 I understand. Just letting you know. Nor in a year and a half when the mug that Joelle's going to put in the mail tomorrow arrives. I hope you enjoy your coffee. That mug is going to arrive with like 17,000 absentee ballots in India. Exactly. One year from now. Too soon.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Sad because it's a little true. Just before I go, I just want to say, Joel, thank you so much. If there was no COVID, I would kiss you on the mouth because I love you so much for making this happen. Oh my God, Joel, getting propositioned. Thank you. Thank you, much. If there was no COVID, I would kiss you on the mouth because I love you so much for making this happen. Oh, my God, Joelle, getting propositioned. Thank you. Thank you, Zach, Donald, Bill, Donald. I love you guys so much. We love you, Noor.
Starting point is 01:30:13 Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Noor Khan. Noor. Super cool to meet you. See you. Bye, Noor. Bye. Oh, my God. What a great movie.
Starting point is 01:30:24 By the way, that's the best guest, at least in the ones I've been on here for, that I've gotten to be a part of, and they're all so awesome. That one was cool. That was amazing. Let's take a break. We'll be right back after these fine words. Mm-hmm. Bring a little optimism into your life with The Bright Side,
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Starting point is 01:32:00 which earned him widespread praise and numerous award nominations. His portrayal of Killmonger in Marvel's Black Panther, one of my favorites, further solidified his status as one of Hollywood's leading actors, earning him widespread acclaim for his complex and compelling performance. In our conversation, Michael really opens up. You're going to love listening to it, and I can't wait for you to check it out. The closest to getting what you want is always the hardest. It's always the feeling when you're getting ready.
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Starting point is 01:33:34 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite podcasts. Seven questions, limitless answers. You guys, I don't think Donald's ever had as much fun as he did opening Nor's segment, which is gone! Gone! I get it. It's a fun line to say.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Did you guys know that Zach directed the episode with a zip line? This is new information. Kid, I just, oh, Nor, you're seriously the greatest. Coming up next, we have a fan who actually did not come to me through our email address. Funny enough, she came to me through Twitter with a picture of her i'm no superman tattoo i knew instantly i had to have this person on the pod her name is katie she had a super oh my gosh gooey lovey romantic question about her future wife that just melted my heart. But also she was just so genuinely gracious and like excited to be on the show. And plus, she did our plugs for us so much better than we ever could. So I put Katie at the end of this show so we could hear her plugs one more time and
Starting point is 01:35:00 just appreciate this lovey goo gooey, gorgeous message of thanks right before our holiday weekend. So enjoy, guys. Hello. Hey, and we're back. And we're back with, what is your name? It's Katie Razia. Katie Razia is on the line with us, and she is going to kick it with us.
Starting point is 01:35:25 Wait, what? Welcome, Katie. A little bit of introduction for Katie before we get started. A while ago, you guys were really into the song, I Ran Down the Ramp, the viral sensation. And Katie made a video where you guys were with JD running down the ramp. That was your video. Katie made the video. Good job. And she also has a Scrubs tattoo.
Starting point is 01:35:49 Oh, my goodness. Let me see. Let's see the tattoo. You want to see it? Okay. I mean, if it's shareable, I don't know. It is. It is.
Starting point is 01:35:57 It's on my ribcage, but I will keep it PG. I promise. Let me just see. I got to flip this. Okay. Okay. Nothing's going to be shown, I promise. Katie is not
Starting point is 01:36:07 flashing us, viewers. Oh, wow. It says, I'm no Superman in the Scrubs font. That is so cool. That is really cool. That is very cool. I was hoping for my face, but hey, you know, whatever. Katie, you are the perfect guest because not
Starting point is 01:36:23 only does it seem like you are a big Scrubs fan, I am also seeing lots of Star Wars memorabilia happening in your room. So Donald will be able to dial into that. Yeah, huge, huge Star Wars fan. Are you a Mandalorian fan? Yeah. Who isn't a Mandalorian fan? I know, right?
Starting point is 01:36:41 You got to be like some weirdo from like Gerirido to not be a forgetting Mandalorian. Weirdo from Gerirido. Sure, yeah. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Oh, no, no, no, no. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun.
Starting point is 01:37:01 Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. No, no, no, let him go. He just made the baby unlatch again. Dun, dun, dun, dun. Dun, dun. Okay. No, no, no. Let him go. Let him go. He just made the baby unlatch again. Katie, tell us where you're calling from. I am from Windsor, Ontario, Canada, which is a small little city right across from Detroit, Michigan. Right.
Starting point is 01:37:18 It's near Vancouver, right? Oh, God, no. No. Oh, you're from Windsor. You're from Windsor. Not Whistler, Windsor. Yeah, you're from Windsor. Wow. Is it named. Not Whistler, Windsor. Yeah, you're from Windsor. Wow.
Starting point is 01:37:28 Is it named after Windsor where the Windsor Castle is? I think so. We have a lot of like Southwestern Ontario has a lot of European inspired names. Like we have a Paris, a London, Windsor, like all kinds of. So if you can't go to Europe, just come to Southwestern Ontario. It's not even close to the same thing. Are the towns just named that, or is there any sort of a monument castle-y kind of things? No. I think they're just named that to be honest.
Starting point is 01:37:52 Would you say that you live in the middle of Bumblefuck? It's not quite Bumblefuck, but it has been called the butthole of Canada just because if you look at the map, the very, very, very bottom, that's us. Like we are the southernmost city. We're actually, we're a lot more south than like a lot of the northern United States. I never understood that analogy
Starting point is 01:38:11 where you call something that's so far south the butthole because the butthole isn't the furthest thing south on your body. It is if you're sitting or if you're in the fetal position. Even if you're sitting, your feet are still the furthest thing south, Zach. If you're in the fetal position? Even if you're sitting, your feet are still the furthest thing south, Zach. If you're in yoga, if that yoga position is a happy baby?
Starting point is 01:38:31 Well, then yes. Then yes. Katie, now you are a good editor because you made a very funny video about, she cut, she cut, Katie, by the way, how do people find that video if they want to watch it
Starting point is 01:38:45 uh it's on my twitter uh at katie rizia it's pinned right to the top uh and katie's last name is spelled r-i-z-e-a um she cut donald and i love the the ramp song and she cut images of scrubs particularly us running down the hospital exterior ramp uh to the song masterfully are you my question is are you interested umfully. My question is, are you interested? You seem like a young person. Are you studying filmmaking or are you just naturally good at that kind of stuff? I didn't, I never really studied it.
Starting point is 01:39:12 I just, I always kind of liked the creative aspect of things, making photos. Like I do kind of photography on the side. I've always loved video editing. I never really pursued a career in it, but I do it on the side for fun, like all the time. Well, you're good at it because you certainly made us laugh and we appreciate it. What do you want to do?
Starting point is 01:39:30 What are you pursuing? My career, I suppose, is I'm an office administrator. So I work at a local college. I run the health insurance. I run the food bank. I run, I'm pretty much like the first face that they see when they walk in and I'm like, and I just do my best to solve pretty much any problem they have, whether it has anything to do with me or not.
Starting point is 01:39:48 As you should. That's what's up. Good. I love you. You do. I love you too, Scott. I love people who do what you do and solve problems,
Starting point is 01:39:58 man. The world needs more of you. He prefers to be called television. He prefers to be called television. Scott. Yeah. Please to be called television Scott. Yeah. Please call him TV. Scott. Listen,
Starting point is 01:40:09 I have a really quick question. Um, Scott Foley, what do you like? What kind of TV? Scott Foley. Sorry. TV.
Starting point is 01:40:15 Scott Foley. Sorry. Sorry. Yes, ma'am. What kind of water do you drink where you don't age in 20 years? Oh God. This is what we just talked about.
Starting point is 01:40:23 Katie. I know. Why won't people write that on my instagram gray here the amount of gray happening it's a gray beard dude it's not a gray face by the way katie katie you weren't on the beginning of this so i have to tell you that the this this podcast began with donald and i posted this video today and they said about donald wow he doesn't age wow zach look at his wrinkles and now you're talking about mr foley saying what kind of water does he drink because he doesn't age the man's older than me but looks like he could be my son that's very kind of you katie and zach very kind of both of you uh the what the kind of water doesn't matter katie just drink a lot of it
Starting point is 01:41:04 yeah and do you use lotion, Scott? Do you use facial lotion? This is embarrassing. So last night I'm putting on some eye cream before I get to bed, and I say to my wife, hey, do a lot of dudes do this? And without hesitation, she was like, no other dude does this. No, they do. You've got to moisturize.
Starting point is 01:41:21 That's what I'm told. By the way, my girlfriend, she's always putting lotion on me. That must feel so good. She definitely doesn't want you looking it feels nice though i kind of don't do lotion because i know she's going to come around after she does hers with the excess oh that must be great i get the excess do you get the smack in the face too like the tight the light yeah because you know when you put facial lotion on and then you have extra right now some people like me i just put it on I just put it on my back for some reason. The small of your back, right. The small of your back.
Starting point is 01:41:48 That's my instinct. But my girlfriend comes around with her extra and gives it to my face. It's nice. Katie, let's get out of here. This is getting weird. I'll talk to you later. Katie, do you have a question for TV Scott Foley or Clueless is Donald Faison or I? Why do I got to be Clueless is Donald Faison? Or I, well, I gotta be clueless as Donald.
Starting point is 01:42:05 I don't know your most famous film. I just went with it. When I remember the Titans. Yeah. When I remember the Titans. Okay. Do you have a question for remember the Titans is Donald? No,
Starting point is 01:42:14 no, no, no. The guy, Denzel Washington's co-star of remember. Do you have a question for Denzel Washington's best friend and co-star? I like that. I like that. I like that.
Starting point is 01:42:26 Yeah, I mean, like obviously several questions. Before I... I have to first of all say thank you to Cole Ladisat on Twitter because he's the one who tagged me in Joelle's tweet looking for me for my tattoo. So if he didn't tag me, I might have never seen it and I wouldn't be here. Right on. Glad you're here. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:42:41 So first question, kind of lighthearted. This has been my question since the very beginning but um it's about so it's actually also kind of timely because you guys just watched this episode not too long ago so if you guys woke up one morning and you see an article from e-news that says bill lawrence has just released never before seen footage of nurse roberts's above ground pool party what do you guys believe in your heart is going to be on that footage oh that's a great question i think they're x-ing their faces off i think nurse roberts i think nurse roberts has some mdma and everyone is just fucking grinding on each other. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 01:43:27 That is an epic above ground pool party. That is an epic above ground pool party. I think that only happens on the in-ground pool parties not the above ground pool parties. I don't know but that's a great question because we know this fact. They were always off the hook.
Starting point is 01:43:43 They were crazy. Shit went down at these things. Right. People got in fights. People got choked out. Yeah. You know what I mean? People hooked up. We know people hooked up.
Starting point is 01:43:51 People hooked up. Yeah. I don't know. What do I think would be in? Oh, wow. I'm sure. Wow. I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 01:43:59 That's a great question. Donald and I get tagged in a lot of fan art on Instagram. And if you're an artist and you want to do a doodle uh doodle what you imagine is happening at nurse roberts's above ground pool party oh my god this is gonna be so gnarly people are gonna put the gnarliest things you've ever seen in your life go crazy and then we'll we'll put some on our stories although joelle has to freaking cipher through all of this man no no no no they're gonna no they're gonna tag us on instagram so they'll show up in our feed. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:44:29 And then, yeah. And then we'll, you know, don't, don't, don't. We'll all have the pleasure. Yeah, don't. Well, actually, I'm not going to give you any restrictions. Go nuts. What is happening at Nurse Robertson? Yo, Instagram will give you restrictions.
Starting point is 01:44:43 Let's put it down. Instagram will give you restrictions. Well, yeah it down. Instagram will give you restrictions. Well, yeah, I mean, don't have, like, cocks flying and everything. If they are, have them be hidden behind something. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what? Don't have... I'm saying, like, be crazy, but if someone goes and draws, like, penises flying, we'll have to, like, blur it probably. You can't put that in our story.
Starting point is 01:45:01 Wow. Or not. Or am I being too PG? No, not at all. No, you're not being too pg you're not being pg at all you are not being pg at all dude well someone went and put uh donald me and johnny c's heads on a on a on a gay porn still and um it's hilarious i sent it to Donald and Johnny C. Word. Why didn't you send it to everybody else? It's not for public consumption. Because it's just for us, Scott.
Starting point is 01:45:33 But Johnny wrote something so back like, oh my god. Johnny wrote back something like, oh my god, Zachy, what have you done? And I started to think that he thought that I made it. Like I was sitting at home on my Photoshop. All right, Katie, do you have another question? Yeah, and I hope it's okay, Jewel.
Starting point is 01:45:57 I just thought of this earlier, and it's not the one we talked about. Okay, perfect. Okay, so this one is a little bit more I guess serious not really serious um most shows and like a lot of tv shows most often comedies they tend to like run beyond their course so to speak and Scrubs at eight seasons was like perfect it didn't go too long so I'm just wondering what the feel on set was for you guys like how did you find out that season eight was ending like how did they tell you and like how did you find out that season eight was ending? Like, how did they tell you? And like, how did that feel filming the last of it knowing this is it,
Starting point is 01:46:29 like this is the end. Well, you know, the crazy thing is we never really, other than season two and three, we never really knew what our fate was at the end of every season. It wasn't until around, you know, right before upfronts where they announced all of the new fall shows that we found out we were coming back for most of the time while
Starting point is 01:46:50 we were making Scrubs. And if you recall, season 8 isn't I don't know if you know this, but season 8 isn't even on the original network that Scrubs was on. So every year felt like well, this could be it. I hope I get to see you next fall, you know what I mean? Or I hope i get to see you next fall you know what i
Starting point is 01:47:05 mean or i go get to see you in the summer when it was announced that it was finally over that it season eight was going to be the last episode of scrubs uh as we knew it that was kind of it was kind of like one of those things where you i didn't believe it until you know what i mean until it was over and then there was this long pause in between. And then we went and did the interns show. But for the longest time, I honestly believed that, yeah, sure, this is the last season, but we'll be back next season. You know what I mean? And so I, you know, a lot of people talk about how emotional they were when we were making the series finale.
Starting point is 01:47:47 I don't know if you remember, Zach. I wasn't necessarily that emotional. Everybody else was really emotional. I still thought we'd be back next season, believe it or not. I was so wrong. But, you know, so in doing it, I wasn't as emotional as everybody else was. Sarah was very emotional. I remember that.
Starting point is 01:48:02 I was very emotional, but I feel like I wanted a new chapter of my life. I was so blessed. I mean, I was so clear how lucky we were. I was so blessed for the opportunity and for how the show changed our life and for the incredible support we have from this most loyal and amazing fan base. from this most loyal and amazing fan base. But I think I and Bill would probably say it was time to like try something new. And Scott can speak to this because he's done very long runs on shows.
Starting point is 01:48:33 Yeah. And, and you kind of go like, this is amazing. And I'm so clear how lucky I am. I do want my life to have other chapters for me. I wanted to have a family and it's very hard. It was hard for me to maintain
Starting point is 01:48:46 relationships and build not just romantic relationships, but friendships because of the time I spent in the abandoned hospital. And I wanted to sort of take that to a new chapter. I wanted to make more movies and do more filmmaking. So I felt so grateful and I was so sad, but at the time I felt like I wanted something new to start. Scott, you must have felt that on your shows. I was going to ask you, Scott, because Scandal ran a really long time. Felicity had a really nice run. The Unit had a really nice run. Like all of these shows that you were on,
Starting point is 01:49:20 you've experienced ending for a lot of shows. Have all of them gone out on, first, the terms that you guys wanted it to go out on? And second, how were you feeling when you got to that point? I don't think any of them have gone out on the terms that you want them to go out on. You know, television is the kind of business that television is. You want it to run forever, right? Paycheck, good group of people. Um, and you know, I think, I think everyone from the actors to the writers, to the crew is like, Oh,
Starting point is 01:49:52 wow, that's, I gotta go look for a job now, which is never fun. Um, but I think there is a, a certain feeling when you've done a hundred plus episodes of a TV show that runs through everybody's head. And I think everybody has some similar feeling, which is, this has been great. If this keeps going, is this all I'm going to do? And that's not necessarily a bad thing, but I want to try something else. Uh, but there is also like, Hey hey i'm not done with it yet you know like because ultimately it's not us with the exception of scandal shonda rhymes was the the person who said the show is done i don't want to write anymore the show has had a great arc and the characters i've told the stories i want to tell and that's it i think had the network had their way the show
Starting point is 01:50:43 would have gone on for another 10 years because it was doing so well. But it's always, Katie, it's always sad. And, you know, these are people that you get to know really well. And you guys can speak to this as well. You become really close. They're your family. You see them more than you do your friends. All my friends know that when I'm on a TV show, I disappear for nine months. And it's, you know, it's kind of who I am and what you got to deal with. It's an amazing, you're so lucky to have it happen, but you do sacrifice a bunch of things. And that's coming as a guy who doesn't have children yet,
Starting point is 01:51:18 like these guys do. I mean, Donald had to go on his last show and be in Jersey City with his family in Los Angeles and be apart from his kids for that long. And that was really, really, really hard on, on everybody. Except for his wife. Yeah. She, she was so happy. I was gone. She was cranking. Don't stop believing. Yo, I came back home and my wife was like, Oh no, that's not how we do that.
Starting point is 01:51:42 Like I did one thing. She's like, no, that's not how we do things here. That is brutal. Yeah. That is brutal. It happens to me, too. What do you think you're doing? This is how we do it now. Right.
Starting point is 01:51:51 I had to go through the crash course of how to live in my own house. It was amazing. Oh, that's not how we do things now. No, no. My mom is a psychologist and has done a lot of marriage counseling. And she said one of the most common things couples fight about is how to load the dishwasher. What?
Starting point is 01:52:09 Is that right? I don't, I don't have that problem. I don't have that problem. Why? Cause you don't do it? No, I load the dishwasher.
Starting point is 01:52:16 She was just giving me an example. But if you tell me how to do it. She was giving me an example of like a trivial thing that couples argue about. And the dishwasher is a big one. You're not supposed to tell your, your that's exactly right a big one you're not supposed to tell your your that's exactly right scott you're not supposed to tell anybody how to do uh if you tell me how to do it i'll stop doing it right i'm not gonna do it i'm gonna keep going right oh no that's not how you put the trash can in the trash the trash bag in the trash
Starting point is 01:52:39 can all right then you do the shit then you got it you know that's what i thought you got it you got it cut to donald being like yes sweetheart yeah fold it over pinch the corners got it all right katie it's time for canada's favorite segment it's time to okay wait hold on let's do it again katie it's time to fix your life. Sorry if the baby was latching. Katie, we really, really are transforming the world with this segment. We're transforming every little corner. Oprah doesn't have shit on us. On the planet. You know why?
Starting point is 01:53:19 Because we are really helping way more than she ever did on her little show. Well, way more. I want the audience to know, I want the audience to know that Joelle just looked away and rolled her eyes. That was, that was, that,
Starting point is 01:53:31 that, that is not my opinion of it either. Uh, Oprah. So please don't. I love that. You guys think that Oprah is listening and writing your names on a list of people that not hang out with.
Starting point is 01:53:41 Listen, you never know. You never know. Both Donald and Joelle are like, listen, Oprah, in case you're listening, that is not me talking. Listen, you never know with Oprah. You never know with Oprah. Both Donald and Joelle are like, listen, Oprah, in case you're listening, that is not me talking. No, listen, Joelle,
Starting point is 01:53:51 you got to let him think he's Oprah because then we might all get a car. Yes. Oh, by the way, we are going to give a special treat out today, I think, Joelle, right? Yes. Okay, but we'll save that for the end. All right, Katie, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:54:03 Is it one of these? No, it's not. It's better than that. Okay. but we'll save that for the end um all right katie uh go ahead one of these no it's better than that all right katie go ahead with your question uh okay so i did think of something i was wracking my brain because i mean i don't want to sound like an asshole but i'm very blessed my life's pretty great right now um but i do welcome katie and on that note we have just fixed her life. That's the shortest segment we ever did. Good work, everybody.
Starting point is 01:54:28 No, it's a rare opportunity for you guys to fix my future life because I'm getting married next year. Whoa. Thank you. And actually, it's in California, so you guys can all come through. We'll be there. Invite me. Invite me. Invite me. As long as the booze is free, invite me.
Starting point is 01:54:49 You are all invited. You can carry me down the aisle. No, I don't want to do all that. I didn't say I wanted to. I don't want to be in the wedding. I don't want to be here. I don't want to do manual labor, Katie. Do you want to be the flower girl?
Starting point is 01:55:00 Just throw the flowers? I just want to be there. I just want to be there. I want to be there, have a drink, and leave. Okay, that's fine. We can do that. So my question to you guys and, like, all of you would just be how, like, what would your advice be to me to just be, like,
Starting point is 01:55:17 the best possible partner I can be to my fiancee? She is the most amazing person ever. She's my best friend. She's so beautiful. And I just want to make her happy forever. Oh my God. I will say, okay, I'm going to say one thing and one thing only. All right, but go ahead. Be tactful. Patience is so important. That is the most important thing you can have. My wife has the most patience out of anybody I've ever met in my life because if I had to deal with someone like
Starting point is 01:55:52 me, I would freaking not... I'd leave me. I would leave me if I had to deal with me. And so, my wife is one of the most patient people on the planet and loves me unconditionally and if you got that in you there's nothing that can be done that well i shouldn't say that there's
Starting point is 01:56:13 very little that can be done to ruin your relationship my wife's tolerance of my bullshit is what keeps our relationship afloat all right all. All right. Scott Foley, you are married with children and a successful relationship. What's your advice? Oh man. Uh, I think patience is a good one. I would, I would urge you to listen to not just what they're saying, but how your fiance is saying it and, and why they're saying it. You know, my, I found, uh, through, uh, much trial and error that, um, when my wife is, uh, telling me something or angry at something or, or, or frustrated about something, uh, listening to that and, and not, it's the hardest thing for me, not trying to fix it, which a lot of men try to do, and you don't seem to have that problem, I don't think. whatever the problem might be is sometimes the best way to go.
Starting point is 01:57:29 Because a lot of the times my wife doesn't want me to fix it or it's not fixable. It's just a matter of being there for someone. I'm not married, but one thing I think really helps me when I'm communicating in relationships, and this goes for not just from any relationship, not just romantic relationships, is being able to admit when you're wrong. I think people automatically, as human beings, we shift into defend what you did at all costs. And there's so much power in being able to take responsibility and truly listening to the person. It it might not be what you intended. It may not have been what you thought you said,
Starting point is 01:58:08 but whatever it is that upset them because of the way they experienced it, you can go, there's so much power I have found in being able to go, okay, I'm just giving you a random example. That is certainly not what I intended. And I'm very sorry that that made you feel that way. And I apologize if that's
Starting point is 01:58:26 if that's how it came across. Just being able to stop and go stop defending and stop trying to be right and being able to say, OK, I've digested what you're saying. I certainly didn't intend it that way or whatever it is. I'm just picking an example. And then being able to take responsibility, I think, is is a very, very powerful tool in all of your relationships now zach i have a question for you are you able to do that without then going what i meant was and you know like that's a problem for me no i think i well i think you know because i usually i'm usually the guy like, look, I did not. Wow. That, that did not, you took that the wrong way. And I'm, I'm so sorry if it came out that way. What I meant to say was the way you fucking put that goddamn dish in the dish.
Starting point is 01:59:15 That doesn't help. Yeah. I was about to say, I was about to say, cause what if you meant that shit when you said it? That's the thing. No, I mean, I think a lot of times, a lot of times, you know, if your partner gets upset, you certainly didn't intend to hurt their feelings or for them to get upset. That's not a normal person's intention. Of course it happens. So what happened? There was miscommunication or there was a sensitivity on one of the people's part. And I think we get stuck in argument loops because both people are trying to
Starting point is 01:59:47 be right. And if, if, if you can go, if you can both go like, okay, I hear what you're saying. I'm dying.
Starting point is 01:59:55 And I'll also, I think a lot of people don't feel heard. They're like, I'm speaking in fucking circles. Cause you're not hearing me. There's a lot of power in saying, I do hear you. You're saying this.
Starting point is 02:00:05 That's not what I intended. I apologize for it coming across like that. Here's what I meant to say. Not in the aggressive jokey way that Scott's saying it, but saying in a way like this is truly what I meant. Now I'm not saying it's going to solve all arguments, but I think it's a very sort of peaceful way to have a conversation. I think there's one other thing you mentioned in there, Zach, that's so important to remember is that when you're with someone, you're with them because you
Starting point is 02:00:29 love them and you want to be with them and never, ever do you intend to hurt that person or to hurt their feelings. But it does happen. And you just have to remember that neither one of you wants to hurt the other. Right. Yeah. Yeah. The other thing I'll give you, my therapist told me to read a book that I haven't read yet, so I can't vouch for it, but it's called Getting the Love You Want.
Starting point is 02:00:52 And I know it's a very popular sort of couples conversation book. So Katie, you can read that. That's my wedding gift to you. Dan, was there something you wanted to say? Oh no, I was just sitting up in my chair. I support everything you guys have said so far. I think patience, listening.
Starting point is 02:01:09 I mean, it's just all very smart advice. And I think it concentrates on having respect for your partner and being aware of your own, not necessarily shortcomings, but situations where you could be at fault. It's all about being equal partners. Yeah. you know, situations where you could be at fault. It's all about being equal partners. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:27 Joel, I would call on you, Joel, but we're trying to find you somebody right now. All my relationship advice would be terrible. Oh, snap. Here we go. Wait, wait, wait. What does this say? Yeah, find Joel a lover. Wow.
Starting point is 02:01:39 Is this your whiteboard? Post this on Twitter, yes. Oh, my goodness. We are working on finding Joelle a partner. I actually had someone slide into my DMs and say, hey, introduce me to Joelle. I got to do a little recon on her. But don't worry. This segment, Scott Foley, you may have missed this because I don't know how often you listen to the show.
Starting point is 02:02:02 But we are working on a new segment called Find Joella Lover. We're going to be hopefully teaming up with a popular dating app. Did I tell you, did I mention on the show that there's a gaming gamers dating app? What? No. No. Someone told me that there's a. How does that work?
Starting point is 02:02:19 How does a gamers dating app work? Well, I'm sure they can play video games all the time. And they can play together. Their courtship could start playing a game. My wife and I play video games all the time together. Yeah, right. Love to hear it. I would love to hear two people just meet on a date and play Call of Duty together.
Starting point is 02:02:37 Or some shit like that. Or some game where they're yelling, I fucking bodied you, you piece of shit. That's love. You should hear Marika. You should hear Marika when we play Halo online against 12-year-olds. It's fantastic. I love it. Okay, listen.
Starting point is 02:02:56 I think it's called Kippo. Sorry, I'm doing the work because I normally would ask Joelle to do this because this is for her. Here are a few. Soul geek, girl gamer dating. Sorry, I'm doing the work because I normally would ask Joelle to do this because this is for her. I want here. Here are a few soul geek. Girl gamer dating. LFG dating. Gamer dating. Gaming passion. Looking for gamers.
Starting point is 02:03:16 Zoosk. All right. Zoosk. Anyway, the point is, if any of you work there, maybe hit us up because we really wanted this to become a segment called Find Joelle a Lover. Oh, my God. We even got a theme song. What? Let's hear it.
Starting point is 02:03:30 It's on deck. It's on deck. It's in the works. Dan's writing it. I'm so excited. It was already in an episode. Oh, it was? All right.
Starting point is 02:03:38 Well, then Dan will play it here. Sorry. I hope there's bounce. In there, Dan. If not, please add some bounce. All right. I hope there's bounce in there, Dan. If not, please add some bounce. All right. In that intro, I want there to be a clip of Joelle just going, oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:03:53 That's good. Thank you, Katie. Our favorite, our favorite editor. So, Dan, it goes bounce. Oh, my God. OK. Blow, blow, blow. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:04:06 All right, Katie, you've been an awesome guest. Congratulations on your nuptials. Hopefully, when you and your fiance get into an argument, you'll take our advice and it will save everything. Oh, I forgot, almost forgot to say that you are getting a prize. And we haven't given away a prize in a long time. No, Scott Foley, not you. It's got fully up in his chair. It's not as in his own screening room.
Starting point is 02:04:30 He's trying to get your fucking present. Katie, is it all right? That she lives in Canada. Joel, are we going to be able to, I'm right across from Detroit. If that helps,
Starting point is 02:04:39 you might have to go pick it up in Detroit at the border. I mean, I can't cross at the moment, but we'll figure it out. Katie, I will, I will, I will augment the postage
Starting point is 02:04:46 with my own money if need be. We are sending you a whole pallet of GT's kombucha. You're kidding. Right. Are we sending the aqua kefir to? Yes. We're not tell you what's in there, but I will. Well, just say yes. We are sending
Starting point is 02:05:01 Donald's word that he's not getting some of his aqua kefirs going to her. It's not. We're sending. Donald's worried that he's not getting some and his aqua kefir is going to hurt. No, we're sending you the mother load, Katie. Oh, my God. The good folks at GT's Kombucha will be sending you a whole palette that you can enjoy and serve at your wedding if you so choose. Yes. Thank you so much. You guys are absolutely amazing.
Starting point is 02:05:22 Oh, my God. This is wild. And you guys don't plug yourselves enough. So I feel like if you don't do it, I should plug you guys are absolutely amazing. Oh my God, this is wild. And you guys don't plug yourselves enough. So I feel like if you don't do it, I should plug you guys. Plug away. Listen, first of all, all you listeners out there, if you are not operating a motor
Starting point is 02:05:36 vehicle, you need to do this right now. Pull up your phone, pull up your computer, open up Twitter, go follow, first of all, GirlJoelle, J-O-E-L-L-E M-O-N-I- of all girljoelle on Twitter she got the whole rhythm the cadence was perfect go over follow DJ underscore Daniel on both Twitter
Starting point is 02:05:52 and Twitch if you have five dollars give him a sub and you know I mean like while you're there you can follow me too I'm on Twitch I'm that random chick that's me and then go back to twitter follow these two you probably already do follow these three i'm so sorry scott k foley he's
Starting point is 02:06:11 busy sorry hi scott follow scott k foley follow at donald faze on follow at zach braff then go over to instagram first thing you're gonna do is follow everybody but especially follow donald underscore azon. The F is underscore. Get him to a million followers. What are you doing if you don't follow him right now? Thank you very much, Katie. I'm going to change something right now, Katie. Katie, I'm going to change something right now. I'm going to use that on another episode. We're going to use that on another episode. That's fine by me. We'll cut to that. At the end of another episode, we'll go. And now for our hype woman,
Starting point is 02:06:45 Katie, and then we'll just play that recording. Done. That's all I've ever wanted in life. And you know, Katie, that was amazing. We should get her a t-shirt cannon because I felt like she was just shy of
Starting point is 02:06:53 shooting t-shirts. All she needed. Katie, that's going to be my wedding gift to you is a t-shirt cannon. A t-shirt cannon. Is it going to be filled with the Eagle t-shirts? Yes. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:07 Thank you. Thank you for talking about that. Continuing to be a good hype woman, please go buy our merch. You go to cottonbureau.com and then search for Fake Doctors Real Friends. We've got all sorts of fun things out. And that's it. Katie, we'll let you stay to the end of the show because you're so rad and our hype woman. Hype woman, Katie, y'all.
Starting point is 02:07:28 She did what she needed to do, and it was amazing. Guys, that's the show for this week. I hope that you are staying safe. Please, please, please stay where you are. We all love family. We all want to be with our folks. We get it, but it's dangerous out there. And the show has already lost people very important to it.
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