Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - 320: My Fault

Episode Date: January 19, 2021

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I got my heart rate up to 180 something You know what I mean? You have a heart rate monitor? Oh yeah I have the heart rate monitor And I got my heart rate up to 180-something. And I was like, how long can I sustain this? And I did it for like two minutes.

Good. You feel good, right? Excuse me. My body's making noises. Creaking. It's not just creaking. Gas is coming out of me like all things are happening with my body yeah because of this because of peloton so who'd you who'd use cody

or uh somebody what do you think i use zach you're very loyal to cody because he knows what he's doing he knows how to get me there make me laugh yeah he would work really really really really hard i was thinking one of the cool things about a trainer that makes you laugh is that you forget that you're doing what you're doing no i know what i'm i know what the fuck i'm doing the whole idea of spinning the whole idea of spinning that i like is that you kind of – it's kind of like dancing. You get lost in the music and you're pedaling as fast as you can, but you can kind of – even though sometimes it's really hard, you can kind of get lost in it a little bit. It's like a new idea, a way of exercising for me because I'm not like a guy who's doing like aerobics classes and dance classes to music.

And then all of a sudden this guy is making me laugh. Like literally, when is someone like doing jokes and making you laugh on the bike? That's like a whole new way to exercise. Yeah, because, well, you look forward to it. And Cody, you know, sometimes he gets really serious on rides and he doesn't necessarily, he doesn't joke around. And you sit there, it's like when Eddie Murphy said, you know, I did that record where I'm sitting at the piano and everybody's like, I wonder when he's going to fart. And I'm like, yeah, well, am I going to fart? You know what I mean?

It's like you're waiting for Cody to tell the joke. And if he doesn't, it's not necessarily disappointing because he's a really good motivator. Like, I've learned that there's a lot of people on this planet that can motivate a group of people to do things right bill belichick is one of them he's done it for a really long time you know uh pat riley is one of them phil jackson is one of them uh doc rivers is one of them there are a bunch of coaches that can do that you know that just have this ability to make it so that you just want to run through walls for them. It's a coach that does this usually in football, basketball, usually in sports.

When you find a trainer that can do that, because usually you're paying the trainer, right? And you're giving the trainer money and the trainer's like, you know, do this, do this. And you're doing it because you're like, I'm paying you. So I need to go as hard as I possibly can go. Now, if you say, I'm paying you, but the trainer's also getting you to go even harder than you want to go, that's a great trainer. And Cody does that. And I'm going to be honest with you. He does that. I'm never – looking at my heart rate and seeing it at 185, I usually would be like, I quit. Fuck it.

This is too high. I'm scared. I'm afraid. I was like, fuck it. Let's see how far we can go. Let's go. What's the worst thing that's going to happen? You're going to die on the bike? I got to tell you that it's like an antidepressant, the endorphins I'm getting off this bike.

Yesterday, I was kind of skipping around. I just had such a pep in my step because I've been spinning every day this week. Hey, welcome to all our listeners. Hi, everybody. We missed you. Donald, didn't we miss them? I always miss them. Hi, Joelle. Hi, Daniel. Hi, Joelle. Hi, Daniel. How are you guys? How's it going, guys? Spectacular. It's a great day. Hi, guys. Hi, Joelle. Why do you seem melancholic? Moving is very stressful. I move in two days, and I didn't bother to take off work because we just got back to work and so everybody needs something.

There's just a lot of things on my plate and I'm just trying to keep it all moving in a good direction. You're feeling overwhelmed. Can't you just focus on how excited you are to move into your new townhouse? I am so effing excited. Is it like Full House?

Everywhere you, is that Full House? Everywhere you go. They lived in a townhouse, right? In San Francisco? Yeah. Somebody who needs you. You're lost out there and you're all alone. A light is waiting to carry you home.

So, Joelle, when you're feeling overwhelmed, you just have to focus on how excited you are to have a new house. Yes. I couldn't be more excited. And I'm trying to put all that positive energy forward. But, you know, things still got to get edited and put in the bin and sent to people on time. And, you know, it makes a lot of emotions. things still got to get edited and put in the bin and sent to people on time.

It's a mix of feelings. It's a lot of emotions. Donald's still singing to score this whole thing. I was trying to score your story. By the way, I got to tell you guys and you listeners, I watched the best movie I saw this year last night. What did you see? I think it's not enough on the radar. Everybody needs to know about this movie.

What movie are you talking about? You're not going to watch it, but these two will. And our listeners might. It's called Sound of Metal. Oh, so good. Riz Ahmed, right? Joelle, is my singer's name right? Oh, yeah.

You are. It's about, without any spoilers, because it would be in the trailer. Oh, it's about without any spoilers because it would be in the trailer it's the dude from Star Wars right yes oh yeah Donald will know him by his character in Star Wars Bodhi from Star Wars the body from

Star Wars is Rogue One Bodhi from Star Wars is an amazing actor he's a you probably never saw Night Of which was like one of the best of course I've seen Night Of. I saw him turn from

sucker to freaking hard ass, man. That dude is amazing. Are you kidding me? Anyway, he's a wonderful actor and he'll probably, I'm sure he'll be nominated and maybe win

for Best Actor this year. I really, I can't recommend this movie highly enough, everybody. It's on Amazon. You can watch it now. They sent us a screener and we were about to watch

the screener and then realized it's already out. I don't want to ruin it for you. It's an indie. It has a slow pace to it. So you have to be patient with it. But he and the actress who plays his love interest give two of the finest performances I've seen. I think her name is Olivia Cooke and she's a wonderful actress. I got to tell you, man, this Riz Ahmed, Donald will know him as Bodhi the pilot. He is an extraordinary actor. Dude, he's phenomenal. Look, they showed when he was auditioning for Rogue One, Gareth Edwards recently, through Lucasfilm and everything, they released the auditions.

And he wasn't in town when he auditioned for Bodhi, so he sent in a self-tape. And this is probably one of the dopest self-tapes I've ever seen in my life. Really? And so Gareth gives Riz his email. gives Riz his email. And so once Riz gets the email, he keeps sending him audition after audition, different ways that his character could be played.

Yeah. That the character could be played. And, and, and, and then finally Gareth was like, dude, come on, man.

All right, fine. That's enough. You got the job. It's yours. Oh, I should do that. Well,

if they give you the email, they're giving you license. If they give you the email. i'm up for a part right now that i really want and uh i know that the writer uh really wants me for it i i feel like i should be hot boxing the director with emails do you have the email for the director oh i can get anything donald i'm connected up in this bitch okay so you should go yourself i mean it's one way to do it. Do you know the story of empty chairs and empty tables being a cappella in the Les Mis movie? No.

Well, that actor, Eddie Redmayne, doesn't have anyone to play piano with him. He's on location. He's making a movie somewhere, so he just sings a cappella, empty chairs and empty tables, and the director loved it so much that he kept it that way in the movie. That's awesome.

And that was cool. Anyway, we digress. He's really good in that movie. I'm telling you. He won the Oscar for that one and the one for playing the super dope scientist. Anyway, I'm going to call it right now, kids. Ready? Riz Ahmed is the current front runner for best actor in a film, in my mind.

I've seen a bunch of movies. So I'm telling you, get in early on this. When are the Oscars? They usually happen in like April, right, Joelle, these days? I thought Oscars were February. Let me see. I don't know. Oh, no, you're right.

Bow down to your superior knowledge sunday april 25th 2021 there you go okay i guess they'll do them probably like remember when jimmy kennel hosted the what was it the last awards show that the emmys or something he hosted something and they did it in a really weird covid way i'm assuming they'll do it that way so this is right this is right around the time when the good movies are going to start coming out then, right? I think everything for 2020 has been out already. I mean, you'll get some screeners. The weird thing about getting screeners, award screeners this year is that everything's pretty much been on TV.

But I always thought the movies came out like right around now. Like this is the time where you drop your movie if you want it to be or it's about to come out. You got to do it in December. To qualify, I believe you have to do a week of theatrical in a theater. Okay. So let me ask you a question then. Within the calendar year. Okay.

Well, here's one. How do we do that this year? Two. Well, because they were just putting movies out. Like even if you drop your movie and 99% of people are going to see it streaming, you still did one week somewhere. It could be in Duluth. It doesn't matter. You just have to be in a

theater for a week. Got it. Are you going to watch the movie? I just want to know if there's even a cell in it. What if I told you that he makes a Star Wars reference in the middle of the movie? Well, one, you're lying to me, so that's not... There's a really cool moment like the middle of the movie. Well, one, you're lying to me, so that's not true. There's a really cool moment, like three quarters of the way

through the movie, where there's this fantasy sequence where they're pretending they're in Star Wars. Watch it. Joelle, is your brother helping you pack, or are you doing all the hard work? My brother and a roommate are very good packers. They are consistently

helpful uh i have a bad back which means i can't lift anything oh you can't do anything yes i really i'm joel i love you couch down yesterday that we're throwing out so i would i would be very lost without by the way i gotta say los angeles gets a lot of shit. And granted, even there's more COVID than oxygen molecules currently. But today is a beautiful day. And this week, it's going to be 84. Wow. So, you know, for all the shit the city gets, and we're clearly not that well run currently. But I do have to say, it's a beautiful place to live in January.

It's going to be 84 and sunny. I'm really, I don't know what to do. I know I'm going to take the kids out. Take them golfing this week, man. Well, we do that anyway. We've been doing that. We've been playing basketball. We've been going out as a family.

You can swim them at my house, by the way. I'm going to be out of town this weekend if you want to run them in my pool. That would be great. We will take you up on that, especially if it's 80-something degrees. Remind me to turn the pool on or they'll be screaming. Alright. Let's start this fucking show, Donald.

Let's get into it. Let's talk about the TV show Scrubs. 5, 6, 7, 8! You're going to be so upset at me. Why? You didn't do a recap? I did not do a recap. Okay. I kind of did a recap.

What does he do? What does Graph Guy do if he doesn't have a time? I have like a... He puts a zero in there. I have a bit of a recap, actually. But it's not a recap. It's just like scribbled thoughts on pieces of paper. Oh, so you never got around to recapping, huh? No, because, listen, I made lunch today for the kids.

You're going to love this one. I made carne asada with some Spanish rice. And the vegetable was a nice spinach, but not too slimy and wet. Did they appreciate it? That sounds like a nice meal. Did they appreciate it? They're like, we just want PB&J.

You're a dick. They ate all of it. It was very nice. It was like one of those moments in my life where I put the work into it and it worked out. It was one of those moments in my life where I enjoyed my kids. it and it worked out. It was one of those moments in my life where I enjoyed my kids. You know, it was a great vote.

You know, it's rare that your kids eat your food. They'll pick at it, they'll nibble at it, and you'll sit there and you'll be like, you eat that shit, and then eventually you finally throw it out and give them the damn ice cream that they're asking for. What's a meal that they enjoy that's not dessert, that they'll really devour? Chicken fingers?

I thought that's what everyone gives their kids. Chicken fingers used to be the jam, but now it's not. Now it's like mac and cheese. However, I did a quesadilla. That always works. You know what they really like avocado toast that works out every now

and then it's really difficult to get them to eat fruit unless it's like an apple or my daughter doesn't like oranges but she likes little cuties oh I love a cutie.

Yeah. You know what I mean? It's that's, that's the, it's, it's tough, man. Cause, and, and you don't have, and once you get a lot of it, that's when they don't like it anymore. You know, you, you, you purchase. So you've noticed, oh shit, they, he really loved the steak tonight. And so the next couple of meals, not the next couple of meals, but you like try and introduce steak,

you know, maybe four meals later. And they're like, I don't want that shit. And you're like, well, he doesn't say I don't want that shit, but he's like,

I don't want it. And you're like, well, you ate it, you know, four days ago. It's like, that was four days ago.

My taste buds have changed. Your taste buds have changed in four days. I don't feel a lot of positivity about this whole kid thing. Dude, I'm not trying to talk you out of it. They move into your house. It's the conflict you want. They act like dicks. It's the Empire Strikes Back.

It's the conflict you want. They're so ungrateful. They're expensive. It's the conflict you want but never knew you wanted it's that i'm telling you man you love it you i just want to say i just want to represent on behalf of the listeners who may be on the fence about having children i don't think that you're a walking advertisement for loving it nobody wants stepford or children of the corn kids i'm telling you right now you don't want that i'm telling you right now you want some type of character in your kids you don't want the perfect child that just does whatever you

want them to do i know i just i'm just worried to be honest that i'm just gonna i'm used this is my candid take is that you put all this work into it and then once they can talk they're kind of like ungrateful and mean no just anger is an easy emotion man like you know i know but like then move out i'm sorry they're kids man they're kids i know i'm obviously the whole premise listen it's the whole premise of the dark side of the force is being a kid you think i'm joking but like i just wonder if you ever really can't connect to it possibly go without thinking about star wars like what's the longest you've ever gone well you asking me about why kids get so angry and stuff like that it's an easy emotion for them and they're young and they're not wise and don't know how to control their anger and the best way to explain that to

you know uh for for me to for me to understand it growing up was Star Wars. The reason why it's so easy to go to the dark side, to become powerful from the dark side is because you're fueling your anger. That's why I talk about it so much. It's part of my life. When you guys. You're a hater. You'll be hating sometimes, man. When are you guys.

Right, Joel? Joel, he'll be hating sometimes. Give me 100. Get involved, Joel. He's talking about Star Wars. Joel's not even he be hating sometimes. Keep it 100. Get involved, Joelle. He's talking about Star Wars. Hating? Come on. Joelle's got a bad back. She ain't putting no hate.

Joelle's like Joelle's zoned out. She's got her like mic on mute, rapping shit and bubble rap. I hear. I promise. She's stressed out. Alright, let's get to the recap let's get to the recap all right listen let's get into your non-written recap are you gonna like uh are you gonna like free free flow it what do you call that when you when you when you freestyle are you gonna freestyle i'm gonna do it off the top it's's going to be off the top. Go ahead. Go ahead. Ready? Here we go.

Go ahead. Dr. Cox and Dr. Kelso are like an old married couple. Tower reads back, and she's looking prettier and prettier than ever. She looks hot. Is that right? Did I say it right? Those eyes are so blue. Carl is freaking out about the wedding.

JD wants what he can't have. Victory can be snatched from you at the last moment. It's very interesting. The grass is also always greener on the other side. That's what this episode was about. This episode was about what's on the other side. And you, everybody has FOMO. But when you get it finally, at the end of the day, the grass isn't greener.

If anything, it's maybe a little less green or if not worse. Be happy with what you got, people. You like what you, you get what you get and you don't get upset. That's how it goes all right well listen on behalf of all of our listeners i think it's better when you pre-write them and plan them out a little bit i had shit to do i'm sorry people my kids had to eat today all right listen i i think this is a great conversation for all four of us so dan will pay attention joelle put daniel's right thank you yeah everybody focus but you know i'm right what i'm on the right All four of us. So, Daniel, pay attention. Joel, put Daniel in the wrap. Right. Thank you. Come here. Let's do this. Everybody focus.

But you know I'm right. I'm on the right track. The theme of this episode, one of the things I took from this episode, we're talking about episode, what are we on here, Joel? 320. 20. 320. Okay, guys.

By the way, we're getting to the end of the third season. So, you know, this shit's going by real quick. We're going to have to find another show to watch. Maybe it'll be The Office. How funny would that be if we did an Office rewatch podcast? We should do that shit. Oh, my God. But anyway, wouldn't that be funny when we run out of episodes,

we switch to The Office? The Office would be hilarious. Because I've actually never seen The Office all the way through. I think it would be funny to watch. I just want you guys to make up behind the scenes. Or Friends. We pick another popular show, and we just do a rewatch of that show. Damn.

Friends is hilarious, dude. I've actually never seen. There ain't no black people on Friends. I'd be like. Except that we should tie their hands. He's insane. And Gabrielle Union. I've never seen.

I've seen Gabrielle Union in like one episode. All right. So if you were to do a rewatch podcast of a very popular sitcom, would it be Seinfeld, Friends, or The Office? Ooh. It would probably be The Office. Donald, you go first. I think we should do The Office. No disrespect.

I don't know, man. I don't know. I like The Office. It was very funny. It's a lot of seasons also. Friends is the most popular one. That's true. Did you really like Martin?

In terms of... Thank you, Joel. That would be a good one. Have you ever watched Martin? No. Dude, no. I remember like, Gina! And I remember him getting in trouble because she hated him. That's all I remember. No, Gina was his girlfriend.

No, the actress in real life abhorred him. Right, Joelle? I didn't know this, but I want that tea. What? What are you talking about? Right now. Oh, yeah, she did not like him. What?

That's amazing. Gina did not like Martin. Tisha Campbell did not like Martin Lawrence. No, you can Google it. She hated him I'm pretty sure Joelle please double check I'm on it Anyway

How do I not know this So anyway One of the main themes of this episode Is JD wanting something He can't have there's a great Groucho Marx Quote I would never want to be A part of any club that would have me as a member. And I think JD, the character, and many humans we all know, and to all of us to some extent, long for what we can't have.

And then when we get it, we're like, I don't know that I wanted this. And then when we get it, we're like, I don't know that I wanted this. And I wondered if you guys had any dating experience in your lives where you really, really, really lusted or longed for someone and then finally won them over. And then once you got them, we're like, oh, I didn't want this as bad as I said I did. No. The only person I've ever worked really hard for in my life was Casey Cobb.

I worked my ass off to get her. I met her, and there was that energy. But you were pretty mature by then. I'm talking about it's kind of an immature thing. Do you have any memories when you were pretty mature by then. I'm talking about it's kind of an immature thing. Do you have any memories when you were younger of working so hard to get a girl and pulling out all the stops, and then she finally is into you and you're like, eh. No. Have you ever been through that experience on either side of it? of it uh i you know i have kind of a unique dating history because basically you know up until last year and 10 years before it i wasn't dating at all while i was on the road i had pretty much like

just decided to skirt that whole part of my life to uh avoid the whole leaving someone at home on the road were you not hooking up with ladies you weren't even hooking well hanging out i mean there was of course you know there was the occasional hookup and stuff like that. But I mean, in terms of like real lasting relationships where you get to know a person enough to even have that thought of like, oh, this isn't what I wanted. I basically only started, you know, really seriously dating like that last year. So I apologize for not having a good story for this moment. No, you don't have to have a story. I'm more interested in the fact that you were a good story for this moment. No, you don't have to have a story.

I'm more interested in the fact that you were celibate for 10 years, but I, well, I thought the sole reason to be a DJ was to, uh, go to mad, big ass party, invite girls to the DJ booth.

I pour them. So rock. I didn't want to have a girlfriend waiting at home. So that temptation wasn't something I had to avoid. That's a very mature way to look at things. I think everybody wants a girlfriend at some point. And you know what, Zach,

I probably did say things that were like, you know, but when you look back at it now compared to the things that I did for, uh, to get, to be with Casey Cobb, nothing compares to that. You know what I mean? I remember a young gal at Northwestern that I was really into. And I really pursued her and tried to court her. And she was not interested, not interested interested and then she finally was interested and i i remember i think like jd i was like oh now i'm scared i don't know what it

was about it was very immature i mean i could speak to that for sure of being like joel listen sometimes you think a person is just so like you're like like i tend to fall for people where i'm like what is this? I've never seen this like personality type before. It's so unique to me. It's so different and interesting. Like, that's what really attracts me. And then sometimes you get up close and you're like, oh, that's a sociopath.

I'm not supposed to be with that person. Or, you know, or you're just like what was initially exciting is like, I don't know. This is laborious. I don't want that in a relationship. It's like I'm trying to be around that person but not like I want to beat that. I think in my case, in hindsight, I was – why are you raising your hand? I have a question. I don't want to interrupt anybody.

Oh, you're so sweet. Do you want to ask it now or do you want me to continue my thought? Yeah, what's a sociopath? I kind of know what it is. Someone with no conscience, right? Someone who has no conscience for their actions, right, Dan? Sociopaths are usually murderers and stuff like that, aren't they? They can be, but it's not like specifically like all sociopaths have the desire to murder.

If you have no conscience, there's like a good chance that you are comfortable with taking a life, but not necessarily. You can do horrible things and it's not keeping you up at night. Right. That's scary as fuck. But I wanted to say, well, I think with hindsight, I look back and I think I was scared. I never thought she would like me.

And then she finally began to be interested. And I think I, young me kind of panicked. Like, I don't even know if I'd, I don't know. I don't know what the hell was going on. It was a weird thing. I look back on it and go, why did I panic and like sprint away? But anyway, it made me think of that because that's what JD is doing. He's clearly in love with Elliot.

Clearly. And he, Elliot, Sean has packed up all his things. He's moving in with Elliot. And J.D. has a scene that I think a lot of people who love the show know well where he goes, it should have been me. And she turns around and she says, what? And he goes, Elliot, if I had a chance to be with anyone else or just be on the couch eating pizza, watching a movie with you, I would always choose you. And it really gets in her head. And Sean comes over and he's packed up his U-Haul and he's got everything and he's ready to move in.

And she's like, I can't do this. She comes to JD's house, the apartment, and she's got a pizza and she falls into his arms and she says, let's do this. And JD ends with him internally screaming and going, I can't do this. This is what I was talking about a couple of episodes ago when I said, this is the moment when she has sex with him that Elliot knows I want to be with JD for the rest of my life, but it's not time yet. He's not ready. I'm not ready and then so sean shows up and she's back with sean and she's gonna play house with this guy knowing that this is the

end game but jd throws a monkey wrench in that jd's like okay if that i don't give a shit if that's the end game i know there's something right now i want to explore that and he throws the monkey wrench by saying you know i feel for you and that that makes her go crazy inside and she decides you know what maybe he is ready maybe i was wrong maybe i misjudged maybe i misjudged this maybe it's time to break it off with sean and she does and brow jd's not ready anymore yeah i mean they're both playing some pretty fucked up mind games with each other you know yeah but don't you feel like they know like this isn't a will they won't they situation this is a they're gonna you kind of know they are you know what i

mean like there's gonna be a happy ending it's funny you say that because there's a really funny moment where where the janitor says i mean come on it's not like you guys are ross and rachel who's ross and rachel and jd goes who any and he goes and he points to two asian people who have the exact hair of ross and rachel and he goes uh, you know, hold on, I wrote it down. You know, Dr. Ross and Rachel from bookkeeping. And they have the exact same hairstyle as Ross and Rachel, but they're Asian.

That was funny. I love that. That was the first time Scrubs has, well, other than that, that's the first time they've ever made an homage to Prince, right? Also, the apartment that Sean and Elliot almost move into is the same layout as Monica's apartment in Friends. Now, I don't

know Monica's apartment in Friends, but apparently it's the exact same layout. Yeah, did you know that? Monica's apartment in Friends is freaking huge, man. Really? No, I think they mean the bedroom. I'm assuming they mean the bedroom. I don't know. That thing is huge. I know Monica's apartment by heart. That thing is huge i know monica's apartment by heart that thing is huge that doesn't exist maybe they meant maybe that apartment doesn't exist in new york well it does

but it's probably 20 million dollars um i right didn't they i didn't watch friends but didn't they justify it like she inherited it or something they had to justify why she had this giant apartment but then how did how did how did her brother's best friend from college have the apartment across the hall from her, though? And why did that one not have anywhere near the same style as the other one? Because they were the alley-facing apartment in the back. This is a street-facing apartment with the view. It was her grandma's apartment. She handed it down, so it was rent-controlled.

Oh, rent-controlled. But then how did Ross come in? That apartment is not rent-controlled. was rent controlled oh and but then how did that apartment that apartment is not rent controlled how did chandler and joey how did chandler and joey get the apartment next right across the hall from them then if that's i think what happened is grandma had been in the building for a long time ross and chandler moved in there and then when ross moved out later joey moved in and took over we'll talk about We should freaking do this on our French podcast Let's save this for our Friends Rewatch podcast By the way that's a funny idea

I was daydreaming when we get through all nine seasons that we would like do movies or pivot to something else but I actually think it's funny if we keep reviewing other shows The Office would be the most funny just because there's an I actually think it's funny if we keep reviewing other shows. The Office would be the most funny just because there's an Office podcast.

They'll be done before us, I assume, and we'll just follow in their footsteps. Let's just do it all over again? Yeah. Well, with our version of it, right. All right. We need to take a break, everybody, and I have to pee. I have to urinate. I have to drain. Okay, that's enough.

I have to drain my swamp. That's enough. We have to drain my swamp. That's enough! We'll be right back. Bring a little optimism into your life with The Bright Side, a new kind of daily podcast from Hello Sunshine. Hosted by me, Danielle Robay. And me, Simone Boyce. Every weekday, we're bringing you conversations about culture,

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Willis. Join me on my new podcast, Queer Chronicles, a show where LGBTQ plus folks tell their own stories in their own words. This season, teens will share all about growing up in political battleground states. I wish I could feel more comfortable in my own body here, but that's just not the case. And follow along as they discover what queer and trans liberation means to them. This isn't running away from yourself. It's running into who you want to grow into.

Listen to Queer Chronicles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your most fabulous shows. I used to have so many men. How this beguiling woman in her 50s. She looked like a million bucks. With zero qualifications. She had a Harvard plaque. Tricks her way past a wall of lawyers and agents.

She's got all of these Maseratis and Bentleys all in the driveway. Is it like a mansion? Yes, it's a mansion. That this queen of the con uses to scam some of the biggest names in professional sports out of untold fortunes. About six million. Approximately $11 million.

Nearly $10 million was all gone. Employing whatever means necessary to bleed her victims dry. She would probably have sex with one of her clients. Hide your money in your old rich man, because she is on the prowl. Listen to Queen of the Con, Season 5, The Athlete Whisperer, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. As important as choosing the right destination when traveling is choosing the right travel partner.

Gene! Eugene Fodor! Gene, what's budding? Much of the joy you will find on the road comes from the person you share it with. So you write the books, Gene. I have a lot of stuff on the business. I understand now.

He's a wise man, Mary is a wiser woman. But be careful and choose your travel partner well, because the worst trips result when two partners have two different agendas. Get down! I'm not stupid, Jean. Something is going on in its high time. You tell me the truth. Freeze, Americano! Jean, run! So travel before it's too late. Your money will return.

Your time won't. And we're all too quickly approaching that final destination. Listen to Fodor's Guide to Espionage on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back! We're back go go go Turk and JD play chess no we've never

played chess before but that was fucking funny as shit now so there's the sequence to remind you if you didn't watch it that ends with everyone saying another person's name they They're like Turk, JD and everyone's calling each other. I read on Scrubs Wiki that it's an homage to a moment in the Rocky Hard Picture Show but I've never

seen the Rocky Hard Picture Show so I don't know. But that was funny when everyone's calling each other names. And then it climaxes with Turk saying checkmate and JD screams and throws the check to the chessboard. Yeah well there's also the whisper conversation where

Danny hears like a bat. Yeah. Whales and bats! Because we're talking about who has sonar. Right after that is where you break up the... Yeah, bats and whales! Bats and whales! That was funny. I like the tempo of that.

Very fast. Very clever. Tara is really..., choo, choo, choo. Everyone. Very fast. Very clever. Tara is really, she's on point in this episode, man. Very funny, man. And she looks beautiful. She looks beautiful. Look beautiful. She looks buxom.

She's buxom. Is that what it is? Well, she's beautiful, but she's also buxom. Her doing yoga was very funny. My father used to take two terms like if you said beautiful and buxom he'd go beautiful and buxom attorneys at law and like no matter if anyone says two random words together he would then take those two words and say attorney's law and it was the stupidest dad joke but i laughed every time

i'm gonna steal that rest in peace har Harold. My dad would love this podcast. He would be one of the people listening every week. Do you think he would write in to Joel? Oh, yeah. He would definitely. Oh, my God. I'm not sure he'd be able to figure out how to write in to Joel, but he would try. My dad used to call me like once a month and be like, hey, I need more signed headshots.

And I'd be like, Dad, there is no one in New Jersey that does not have a signed headshot. I've done the state. The state is covered. And he'd be like, no, no, no. I met the most loving because he was the most gregarious, friendly guy. No, I met the most wonderful couple at the car wash. And of course, i told them and uh they i and i i said uh i said dad look i'm i'm gonna sign these things but i'm not gonna write messages

to them all because like i have i have like other things to do i this is not like my full-time job is not making sure everyone in new jersey has a signed headshot with a message and he goes no no you have to write the message. I go, Dad, here's the thing. I'm going to sign them, and I'm going to send you the Sharpie, and you can write whatever message you want. And he goes, I'm not doing that. I go, well, then I'm not

doing it either. I go, okay, send me the Sharpie. Did you ever see what he wrote? No, God knows what he wrote in my name. Knowing my father, they were very long-winded and beautiful. If you have a signed photo from Zach's dad, please write it. If you have a signed photo from me that was given to you by my father, it is my signature. But the very long message that's neatly printed is probably not for me.

my signature, but the very long message that's neatly printed is probably not for me. Alright, what else, Donald? Let's talk about some of this funny shit. Richard Kind is back. He's hilarious. He's hilarious. He has one of the best turns in the history of turns. With the curtain? The curtain.

He's like, I want to know everything about me. And there's nothing you can say to make me change my mind oh it turns out insurance won't pay for this good day sir he closes the curtain they must be frantically changing him behind the curtain because when the curtain whips open he's already got his street already my god. He's. My God. There's nothing that man can say that doesn't make me laugh. I just think he's so funny.

What was hilarious is that Casey wandered into the room and that scene happened and she goes, oh, that guy's really funny. And then walks right out. He's one of these people. He's one of these people like Will Ferrell is another example where you just start giggling when you look at them. Like, you know, you know, they're going to say something that's going to make you giggle. I remember seeing the Anchorman trailer in a movie theater,

and Will Ferrell came up with his look in Anchorman, and the whole audience just started laughing. He hadn't said a word yet. I mean, obviously the costume and look was funny, but he hadn't said a word yet, and everyone was – so there's certain people that have that. Richard Kine has that. You look at him, and you just just start you already are primed to laugh

so funny man i love that we really got to have him on joel are you working on richard kind i think he's one more episode i'm not sure maybe well joel will you will you um bill bill lawrence probably has a contact for him but i'd love to have him on and talk about lots of things. Yeah, definitely. How about the kid with the grown man voice, Richard Wells? Yeah, we should say that this episode is directed by Richard Wells, who was our first assistant director, one of our best first assistant directors in the whole run of the show. Great man. He was our first first assistant director.

Yes. For those of you who aren't in the business, the first assistant director is the crew member who's kind of like a stage manager in theater. He's calling out, okay, is the loud voice that's organizing everything and telling everyone we got to go and here we go and you go over there. He's the bad guy.

He also has to be the bad guy. He's the traffic cop, if you will. It's a very hard job, a very very stressful job they stereotypically die early because of the amount of stress no i know that because they're they're members of the same guild i'm in and and the dga i don't know rumor has it we have great insurance because first ads are so stressed and they die early oh my god i don't know if that's true. I don't know if that's true. Anyway, it's a very stressful job, and Richard Wells was very good at it.

He was. This is his first episode actually directing the show, and he has a very deep voice, and so he's the voice of the child that has a deep voice in this episode. Very funny, too. Now, this is one of, I think, the fans' favorite flashbacks in nine years, everybody. This is the fantasy where Donald and, excuse me, this is the fantasy where Turk and JD drive five hours to see Michael Jordan play and forget the tickets, and Turk pulls out his hair.

Yeah, we went 500 miles because we got the ticket Was I supposed to bring the tickets or the sandwiches? Yeah, and we both hold up the sandwich bags. You scream and pull out your high top fade. And then JD goes to pick up the hair

from the floor and Turk says, Leave it on the floor! Leave it! It's so funny, man. It's so funny. I love how you're wearing like an off brand 23 Jersey because we couldn't license the Michael Jordan Jersey.

But you know exactly what it is when it's the number 23. I know. It's either Michael Jordan or who? Kobe. No. Who else was 23? He only had one. I know. I know.

I know. I know who. Wasn't Magic Johnson 35? No, man. What was Magic Johnson? 32? 30-something. Magic Johnson was 32.

All right. Michael Jordan was 23. LeBron James is 23. Kobe Bryant was 8 and 24. Now, why is LeBron taking Jordan's number? Isn't that a weird thing? It was his number since he was a kid. Oh.

He always got that number. But he had it as a kid because of Jordan. Right. But he was always the Jordan on the team. Like, LeBron James was always the best player on the team. Here's something I don't know the answer to, and a lot of my non-sports-loving listeners agree. They want to know the answer to this question.

A lot of people want to know it right now. How do you get assigned a number as a NBA player? You pick a number. You can pick any number. Yeah, as long as it's not taken. Some people have numbers and Star will come to the team

and be like, yo, let me get that number. Oh, they have to change their number. And the person who has the number has the opportunity to say no or play me for it. Oh, play me for it or you know for it now do you um do you if you change teams does your number come with you that's what i'm saying if you go to a team like let's say you were on the lakers and you were wearing the number five and you go to the uh

you know the miami heat and you and somebody else is wearing the number five and you're like, yo, that's my number. And I'm more famous. I'm the superstar. The person has the opportunity to say, get the fuck out of here or play me for it. You know what I mean?

You know? If I say a famous player, do you know their number? Maybe. Go ahead. Isaiah Washington. Isaiah Washington is an actor. I'm sorry. I didn't mean that. You mean Isaiah Thomas?

He got it, though. I meant Isaiah Thomas. Sorry. Isaiah Thomas. Eleven. Oh, good. Takembe Mutombo. 55. Takembe Mutombo 55 Takembe Matumbo Mike Jeminski Daryl Dawkins

Oh shit I should know this 42 right What's Daryl Dawkins' number 34 Something like that 34 is Charles Barkley Daryl Dawkins 53, 45, and 50.

Wow. I was way off. Muggsy Malone. No, Muggsy Bogues, you mean? Yeah, Muggsy Bogues. He was the little guy, right? Look at him, Muggsy Malone. Wasn't he little?

Yeah, I think it's zero. I was zero. He's 5'3". It's either zero or one. I think you're right on the 0 is he the shortest player to ever be that good it was 1 or it was 0 I'm seeing 1 on the

Charlotte team Donald on Charlotte he played with Alonzo morning number 33 was there ever a player that was that short and that good I think Nate Robinson might be close to that height or Alonzo Mourning, number 33. Was there ever a player that was that short and that good?

I think Nate Robinson might be close to that height. He's 5'3", you said? No. Nate Robb's 5'9". No, I don't think so. Spud Webb's 5'7". Spud Webb. 10? No, 7. 7, 7, 7, 7. Spud Webb's 5'7".

But is his number seven? Four. I'm so way off. All right. Way off. Yeah. Kids, stay away from the weed. Is the caller here?

Really stay away from the weed because I don't know a basketball player's number? I'm just saying short-term memory loss. Your fucking special pill you take from memory ain't working on basketball numbers. This is over 20 years ago dickface saying penis breasts that maybe you should uh do you remember do you remember what your history teacher taught you on december uh ninth yeah she famously said donald eat a dick no she famously said she famously said suck an asshole Yeah, you know what she said? Chug a bag of dicks.

All right, let's bring him to court. Is that what she said? Chug a bag of dicks? I'll never forget. Mrs. Weckstein, she said, tell Donald in the future to chug balls. My science teacher told me to stick a stethoscope up your motherfucking ass. Is that even right? Yeah.

My geography teacher said tell Donald. My geography teacher told me to tell Zach here's a globe, put it up his ass. Here's a globe. Alright. Here's a globe.

My geography teacher famously said here's a globe. Alright, call him in. We're gonna break. We're going to break. We're going to break. Bring a little optimism into your life with the bright side. A new kind of daily podcast from Hello Sunshine. Hosted by me, Danielle Robay. And me, Simone Boyce.

Every weekday, we're bringing you conversations about culture, the latest trends, inspiration, and so much more. I am so excited about this podcast, The Bright Side. You guys are giving people a chance to shine a light on their lives, shine a light on a little advice that they want to share. Listen to The Bright Side on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free iHeart app and search The Bright Side. As important as choosing the right destination when traveling is choosing the right travel partner.

Gene! Eugene Fodor! Gene, we'll board it! Much of the joy you will find on the road comes from the person you share it with. So you ride the bus, Gene, and the last hour on the business. I understand now. It's a wise man to marry a wiser woman.

But be careful and choose your travel partner well, because the worst trips result when two partners have two different agendas. Get down! I'm not stupid, Gene. Something is going on in its high time, you tell me the truth. Freeze, Americano! Gene, run! So travel before it's too late.

Your money will return. Your time won't. And we're all too quickly approaching that final destination. Listen to Fodor's Guide to Espionage on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I used to have so many men. How this beguiling woman in her 50s... She looked like a million bucks With zero qualifications

She had a Harvard plaque Tricks her way past a wall of lawyers and agents She's got all of these Maseratis and Bentleys all in the driveway Is it like a mansion? Yes, it's a mansion That this queen of the con uses to scam some of the biggest names in professional sports out of untold fortunes. About six million. Approximately 11 million dollars.

Nearly 10 million dollars was all gone. Employing whatever means necessary to bleed her victims dry. She would probably have sex with one of her clients. Hide your money in your old rich man, because she is on the prowl. Listen to Queen of the Con, Season 5, The Athlete Whisperer, on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or

wherever you get your podcasts. If you've been following the news, you know that from healthcare access to safe schools, LGBTQ plus rights are under attack. And it's about time queer and trans youth get the microphone and tell their stories in their own words. I'm Raquel Willis.

Join me on my new podcast, Queer Chronicles, a show where LGBTQ plus folks tell their own stories in their own words. This season, teens will share all about growing up in political battleground states. I wish I could feel more comfortable in my own body here, but that's just not the case. And follow along as they discover what queer and trans liberation means to them. This isn't running away from yourself. It's running into who you want to grow into. Listen to Queer Chronicles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your most fabulous shows. And we're back.

And we're back. With Craig Jenkins. There he is. Craig Jenkins. You've got the two dudes from the Muppets on your wall. Do you know their name, Donald? Do you know their names? The old guys in the balcony.

You nailed it. Wait. Wait. Listeners, if you're listening, you probably know the names? The old guys in the balcony? You nailed it. Wait, listeners, if you're listening, you probably know the names of the two old crotchety men in the box. You know it, Zach. What are the names, bud? It's something like Steinway and Mortimer or something. You're close. But you got it wrong. Come on.

Calm down. We have a fucking guest here, asshole. Craig, I don't know, but I know it's something like Mortimer and Steinberg it's Statler and Waldorf oh Statler and Waldorf close don't worry they're only judging me don't you guys do whatever you gotta do now are you um that's an awesome uh photograph he you guys he has like a giant Statler and Waldorf photograph on his wall it looks like they're like your long lost relatives. Yes. Where did you get that?

That's cool. I've never seen that. I actually, I had it made for, I used to own a live music venue in Santa Barbara for 20 years. And the idea was to have them, the original idea was to build out their platform and have the actual Muppets sitting there looking down the stage. That's awesome. But you'd be shocked how hard it is to get those Muppets made. So I bypassed on that, found this picture, blew it up, and hung it up literally

right where they would be sitting, looking down on everything. That's cool. That's great. That's a clever idea, but yeah, to have Muppets recreated was probably a steep price. Yes. It wasn't as affordable as I would have hoped. Were they going to be like actual people holding with their hands up the Muppets'

asses talking for the Muppets? No, he was going to put them like props there. Just purged. That's very interesting theater if you did do that though. Have some guy whose only job it is to work the Muppets and make snide comments. That's it.

That'd be a good gig. Craig, are you calling from Santa Barbara? Actually in Buelton, which is just up 101 from Santa Barbara But yeah I've lived in Santa Barbara for about 25 years That's a beautiful place to live I love it just up the freeway for you guys I know I know but you don't have any of this Hollywood mishigas All you have is the beach and beautiful weather and happy people

I'll take it I will take it Santa Barbara is so pretty up. It's so beautiful. Santa Barbara, it's so pretty up there. It's so beautiful there. It's far away from us, though. It's like an hour, right? It's an hour and a half, right? Yeah, there's really no traffic these days, so come on up.

It's not that far. You have a great zoo. The zoo is amazing. And it's really interesting that, I mean, some people don't like zoos. I guess I shouldn't... I think you can say zoos. I realized I just stepped in some doo-doo when I said that. The zoo's amazing. There's a fraction of the audience

that'll be like, fuck Donald and his zoos. But they're not going to turn off the podcast. But their zoo is amazing. And, you know, these animals are, you know, people are, they donate a lot of money to the animals and stuff to keep them healthy. How do the animals store the money? Well, they keep it in a little vault.

Is it cryptocurrency or are they hip? They donate money to the animals. Yeah, the animals have little vaults. It's a big vault. They swim in it, actually. The only problem is getting the biggest problems. It's a big vault. They swim in it, actually. The only problem is getting the lions out. One of the problems for the Santa Barbara Zoo is how to store all of the money that the animals have saved. Craig, what do you do in Santa Barbara?

Well, as of late, not much. Right. I was part of one of the industries that got hit, which was I was a touring sound engineer and tour manager for a lot of bands that went around the globe and uh and of course that industry has been come to a screeching halt any bands that we would know about that we could say wow we have craig on he's cool uh maybe i don't know i don't know i mean i know the kind of music you guys listen to and i'm not really sure solo gangster rap go ahead exactly just completely gangster well we had a lot of actually gangster rap guys come from the club uh that i had in santa barbara like we have most of wu chang clan coming individually

too short and all those guys it was just a great one kind of launched me into going out and touring with bands uh like flogging molly and frank turner and uh rise against and stuff like that um lucero bands all in those nature do you like life on the road as a as a tour manager it must be i love it i love it you just wake up in a different city every day and and you just kind of put the especially the sound engineering where you just kind of get to put the puzzle together and uh and uh and for all to enjoy and it's uh and i remember it was one of those things about about tour managing is like there was a study that was done that said the shorter the distance between what you do and the results of what you do the happier you tend to be or people tend to be in general.

And it definitely held true for me for sound engineering and doing that kind of stuff because you do it, you see it, and I'm sure for you guys acting and performing, you get immediate feedback. Well, we only get immediate feedback if we're doing a play. When you said that, it made me think,

and Donald can, I'm sure, attest because he's done theater too, to that experience where it is so gratifying when people like the play. Whereas when we do a film, for example, it's a year before we know if anyone loves or hates it. Right. Do you have kids?

You don't have kids. No, no, no kids. It's a hard life for someone who has kids. I was about to say, no wife, no kids. It's really difficult for a lot of my friends that do it that have families. It just tears them apart being away from their family. Now, when you get into a new venue, I've never asked a sound engineer this.

The mixing board in each venue is different, right? So you have to know a wide array of mixing boards. Well, yes and no. The basic principles of mixing, I'm sure Daniel can attest to this, they're all basically the same. But what happened was I was fortunate enough to learn sound engineering on an analog board. And then when it all went to digital, what happened was you were able to save your files and then you can show up. So if they have like the Midas board, you can plug it in.

Your show pops right up. It's kind of cheating in my opinion. Wait a second. Sorry, slow down because there's a lot of people that listening that don't have anything to do with the entertainment business. And they, I just want them to know that you're, what you're saying is that the mixing boards that these venues have are, are often one of a few brands.

Correct. So you can show up and just put your file in and all your show pops up. If, if you've been on that board in the past, it will recognize that file and it'll bring it up. And your China list will be there. It'll save you a ton of time for a sound check and just get the show going a lot faster. But you're right.

There are different boards in all the different venues. That's why as tour manager, you would advance the show, figure out what you're walking into, so you know if you have to build it from scratch. You'd have to know in advance what you're walking into. There's no way you could just show up. I show up to every venue assuming I'm going to build it from scratch. If it's fortunate enough where they already have a board I've been on, then I'm just like, oh, I'll just save myself three hours, plug that thing in.

But don't you know ahead of time this venue has this board? Yes, absolutely. The size venues we were doing, which is like a lot of the – like in England, a lot of the O2 academies are all built very much the same the same uh and so you can just go from one academy the next and you're good to go i think that would be a really fun job mixing mixing live acts i think i love it i wouldn't trade it for anything it's uh and i miss it it's like it's it's been a long time since i've been able to get behind what happens when you hate the band yeah i was about to say you leave quickly yeah because i couldn't do it i

couldn't do it no matter what the check i mean obviously if you have responsibilities you take the check but i'm saying i i would imagine it'd be a nightmare if you hated the music yes well i was lucky enough to kind of pick and choose the bands that i've wanted to work with and i met a lot of them having come through my club and uh you know so then after hearing their set or enjoying their music or not enjoying their music or or more importantly for me, enjoying them as people would be a big indicator of whether or not I would agree to tour with these guys. Daniel, you look like you have a question. I do. Craig, what's the name of your club?

It was called, it was actually named after an Eddie Murphy character. We share a fondness for everything that guy did on Saturday Night Live. And it was called Velvet Jones. I'm Velvet Jones. I'm Velvet Jones. How to be a hoe. Exactly. And so through that,

we did that and we, we had to close our doors. That was when I knew I had been kicked in the butt by love. Exactly. I knew you guys would be right up there. We'd piece that one together quite quick. We love Eddie and we love Eddie on SNL. And all those great characters.

Wasn't he only on that show for like a season and a half? Is that how long it was? I think it was short. Hold on. It was real short. You can watch if you're listening and you haven't seen it. They have Eddie Murphy's greatest hits on SNL. Yeah, but it changed, man.

Their first one was the best one. When it originally came out, it was a certain set of skits, and it was the best one. it originally came out it was a certain set of skits and it was the best one and then the best of eddie murphy saturday night live changed a bit but the first one i'm talking about when i watched like when you were a kid yeah right when you were a kid that's the one oh you want to find the old one don't find the new one yeah don't get the one that came out after that isn't the same thing and you can't find the original one anymore with all of those sketches yeah you can't find that original one anymore with all of those sketches. Yeah.

You can't find that one anymore. If you could, you could try to, I've had a hard time for four years, dude, 1984. See, we weren't,

we weren't old enough to be watching SNL. I knew, I knew who Eddie Murphy was at a very young age. Well, you were watching Eddie live on SNL. I wasn't. No, but my parents,

my parents, my parents loved eddie murphy so much people were talking dude it was new york i grew up in new york city 43rd 9th avenue i was very close to uh 30 rock uh what uh what right that's what it is yeah rockefeller center rockefeller center i was very close to it ed. Eddie Murphy was a big thing when he hit Saturday Night Live. Everybody knew who he was. I remember the town. I remember being like, the black guy on Saturday Night Live is the funniest motherfucker. You know what I mean?

And not ever even seeing Saturday Night Live. And my parents one night being like, yo, you want to stay up and watch it? And me being like, yeah. And getting to see him do Mr. Robinson. It's a beautiful day in the name. Dude, I couldn't believe it, man. I couldn't believe it. Can you spell scumbucket? Do you know when it's

scumbuckets? I bet you do. What? I like that he goes, do the thing where he goes, this is how you answer the door in my neighborhood. This is how you answer the door in my neighborhood, boys and girls. Who is it? Oh, man.

I want to be friends with Eddie. It's one of my life goals. I would hang out with him, man. You know what, man? There were times where I felt like maybe I should say something like, yo, Ed, can we hang out? But I was always afraid to say things like that. I'm going to try, man. I'm going to try, of course.

And there have been times where I've been around him and I could have said things like that, and I was just so afraid because he is Eddie Murphy, and the last thing I want is to be a stan. I don't want to be a stan to Eddie Murphy, but I really want to be a stan because all of the comedy that I freaking do now really comes it stems from him him and richard prior when i was you know what i mean it's like yeah delirious if you've never seen delirious the stand-up act not just a delirious no forget raw delirious was the jam you could say raw because it's not pc anymore but raw was freaking fire delirious when i saw

delirious i don't know what year i was able to see it it was i definitely was young and i knew i shouldn't be watching it because it was so r-rated but i thought it was the funniest thing i'd ever seen in my life raw is one of the half all of that shit eddie i want half i want half i want what's coming to me that shit is one of the funniest things i don't know last week you was's coming to me. That shit is one of the funniest things. Last week, he was butt naked on a zebra. That shit is one of the funniest things. Dude, I don't give a fuck what you say, man. Raw is one of the

funniest. Oh my gosh, man. Eddie! Eddie! Oh my God. Come on, let's focus. There's a bunch of African people that are like, fuck Eddie Murphy, man. Suck my dick, Eddie. Suck my dick, Eddie. Suck my dick, Eddie.

Let's focus. Craig, what's your question for us? I have a couple questions, and I also have some, if we have time, some trivia for you guys. All right. Go ahead. But yeah, I'd like to start out just like, you know, throughout this podcast, and to let you guys know, I've been trying to binge listen to this. I'm only halfway through season two of the podcast, so if these questions have already been asked, forgive me. I would keep having questions while I was listening, and you guys would later ask them, or they'd be sad that they wouldn't

be no longer possible. When you guys first came out with the jingle, I thought how great it was. First of all, outstanding jingle. It puts a pep in my step every time I hear it. I thought how great it would be to have maybe Sam Lloyd's band do a version of it. And then, unfortunately, he passed away. I'm like, ah, okay.

Or maybe they could do one without Sam as an homage to him. It's not the same. It's not the same. All right. Yeah. And then moving on to then after that, week after week, Donald will be giving Zach, giving you such a hard time about having never seen Remember the Titans.

And so through my network of crew friends, I was trying to quarterback getting word of Denzel's camp to send you like a cameo style video like asking begging you to watch the movie i don't think denzel does cameo no he's not on camo no i mean through the people that i work with to get to him just to be the video but denzel would be like 100 grand for a video yeah but my question is is uh for zach is it's a butterfly effect question do you think that had you seen Remember the Titans before you had cast

Garden State, you would have given Donald the role? No, because I think Donald's hilarious, but I think I was How did you, if you were trying to be As far away from Scrubs as possible I was, I was, of course I was With my first big opportunity to act

slash direct in something, you know, I didn't want to be pigeonholed in Scrubs and only be thought of as the guy from Scrubs. So when I got my first big gig separate from Scrubs, I didn't then want to cast my best friend as the guy in the movie because I was trying to

separate the two. And you know, I also pictured that character that Method Man played just, you know, different from Donald, like, you know, more of a hard fucking intimidating guy. Wow, you know, you break my heart. I know you can play hard and tough. I'm an actor. Here's the thing.

Here's the thing. You know what? This has followed me my whole career, and it's funny that this is the reason why Zach did it. When I was a kid, I was up for Bronx Tale, right? And I remember De Niro had me do the table read. I got to meet everybody from Goodfellas pretty much was there. I was like, holy shit, it's the cast from Goodfellas pretty much was there i was like holy shit it's a cast from goodfellas here you know pretty much i did the table read and then we're auditioning people for collogio and i freaking uh you know uh do the readings with these kids and i'm thinking i'm a shoo-in for the part do you know what fucking de niro's note was and why i didn't get the role he was like he's too much of a cosby kid meaning i I was too much like one of the Huxtables. I was too much like one of the Huxtables.

So this is something that has followed me my whole career. This is why I probably don't do a lot of action movies. This is probably why I don't, you know, because I'm too much of a nice guy and I'm not hard enough, just like Zach said. So you know what, Zach? Fuck you, man. Fuck you and fuck anybody who thinks like you, man. Fuck all y'all. Fuck you, fuck you, and fuck you.

It hurts. I'm out. God bless. Sorry about that. Thanks a lot, Craig. Oh, no. We'll be back. He probably has to take a hit of the weed sorry about that that was not my intention to uh

i couldn't stay away okay i want to say that the same goes for myself. There's roles I wouldn't – I'm not going to – if I was making a movie with a mob's boss, I'm not going to cast myself as the mob boss. Donald, you have decades of being a likable guy that people love who's comedic. Of course you could play hard. Of course you could play a tough guy but there's so many other actors that it that comes as naturally to them as you being lovable and likable is i i don't know why i wouldn't hire them or i don't know why someone who was casting but don't you think the same thing goes for me no one's gonna cast me as the fucking assassin

you don't know that you've never put for me? No one's going to cast me as the fucking assassin. You don't know that. You've never put yourself in those shoes. You've never ever fucking walked that walk to see if you could play that. So you don't know what the fuck. You know what I mean? You've never been given that opportunity. If you had the opportunity and you failed miserably, then I could totally understand. I totally get it. I feel like if I got the audition to play like a tough Italian gangster,

I would say this isn't me. No, but that's bullshit because there's no work. There's not a lot of work when it comes to the audition part. The audition for it, yeah, you're going to go and you're going to give the best version of that that you possibly can, but you're not freaking opening up the the book on the character you're not creating something you're not diving in you're not doing what you did when you you know when you worked with de niro you're not doing that stuff you're for an audition you never know what

it is that you're gonna that you're able to reach until you given the opportunity so how would you how would you know how that's the that's the that's the freaking judging a book by its cover shit that a lot of hollywood does and there's a reason why a lot of actors are pigeonholed because people are like you know what he can only play this character but you don't know that you haven't given the person another i think the blessing and the the curse that goes with the blessing of being on a show for a decade is that you do get pigeonholed a bit for better for worse it's true it's honest it's people do go oh my god that's the funny gregarious charming lovable guy um i'm not saying people can't break out of that of course they do look at brian cranston he was the

lovable dad on malcolm in the middle but um but it's a challenge and I'm sorry if... I'm being facetious. I'm being funny. I obviously tapped into something that's upsetting. No, but I've actually been given opportunities to do things like that and I think I've done a pretty good job or I've had a good time

creating whatever character it was that I did when making said opportunities um but uh my my my my point is is that thinking like that isn't going to get anybody and it's not going to get you anywhere so to say you can't play that you don't think anybody would ever hire you that you put it's like the white boy it's you were casting a movie, you're directing a movie, right? Right. And the role is for a 45-year-old hard ass. Maybe he's connected to the mafia in some way.

He needs to be intimidating. Let me just finish my thought. You're not going to call me. You shouldn't call me. If you called me, I'd be like, dude, what are you doing? Hire fucking Bobby Cannavale. What are you doing? Go. I'm sorry for you,

man. Then if that's good, I don't know. I don't know, man. I disagree with that. I think, I think you,

I think you have the potential to play anything. If you tap, if you are willing to stretch out with, you know, I want to say your feelings, but then you're going to say I'm talking about Star Wars. You know what I mean? If you're willing to put the work in and stuff like that, you know, it's there. Anything's obtainable, especially in this. This is a craft. It's not, you know what i mean people work really really really

really really really really really really hard once they're in the door and it sometimes pays off you know what i mean you're in the door if somebody gave you an opportunity like that and it was a sick ass role i don't see why you wouldn't say fuck it i'll go for it and and try your best instead of coming out of that you're picking me me really me you think i could do that fuck that shit man i'll you know that's that's held me back so many times in my career dude i know you know you get auditions and you look at and you're like i don't know if i can do that and all of a sudden that makes it you've already lost the you've already lost the part you know fuck that shit man go at it as you can do that. And all of a sudden that makes it, you've already lost the, you've already lost the part,

you know, fuck that shit, man. Go at it as you can do anything. I don't know, man. I know I sound like I'm listening. I love you,

bro. And I think, and I, and I think, I think, I think we are all capable of incredible things. And because of that, I really believe that you're capable of doing, you know,

things that you say you don't believe you can do, but only if you believe. I hope to play a hard ass soon. Craig, do you have a question that won't get us into a fight? Yes, I apologize for that. I guess I'll have that question for both Danil and Joel, as well as one for you guys. It's pronounced Danil. It's Danil.

Danil. It's a name that doesn't exist.'s because of uh people misreading his email that's why we call him gotcha well should i start with them or start with it okay we'll start with them that's all right to you friend um you know being a uh on the producing side of a lot of shows like i was talking about it's always interesting for me to meet the people or to figure out the the paths people have taken on the production side that got them to land to where they are now and i know when you guys have your guests on for the first time you always kind of ask them that question i was kind of curious about the two of you well like how we got to being producers well no as far as doing the engineering or producing shows like what shows did you work on which led you to another show Which led you to this Oh yeah I could do that real quick

I was working at After Buzz TV Doing five after shows a night Which led me to Collider Doing a lot of their Jedi Council things You worked on Jedi Council I can't believe I did I made guest appearances

There and I did the Schmod down as a night sister. So it was like very on brand. And then my good friend, Danny Fernandez, who worked at I heart was like, yo, you should come to these script notes for my show, which Daniel was doing the engineering and editing for. And then Daniel was like, Hey Jack, who is our boss? You should hire this girl to produce. And that's how I ended up here.

Awesome. And Daniel, were I ended up here. Awesome. And Dana, were you always doing engineering like this? Or did you ever do studio or live music or anything like that? That's so funny that you ask. Yes, Craig. Before, the reason I asked about your venue is because I was wondering if I had played there. I used to be part of a DJ producer duo called Gladiator.

And we toured the world for the last like 10 years. After that stopped being super profitable. I started looking for work in places that also use the skills of audio editing and everything that I've been doing and cutting audio. I taught at a couple different DJ schools around Los Angeles. There was a posting about openings at I heart or at the time it was how stuff works. They were opening their new LA, and they were starting a new comedy branch. So I submitted, I interviewed, and yeah, and now I'm here. Here we are.

Started just working on one show, to editing three shows, to editing and engineering four shows, to producing a show, to getting asked to drop off some equipment at Zach and Donald's place, and now here we are. It's really interesting. You know, I don't think either one of them thought that this was going to be their job. You know what I mean?

And what's crazy is that they were both on a show together at one point before this doing something similar, talking about a subject that they were very interested in. Am I correct? That's correct. You guys were both personalities in. Am I correct? Like you guys were, you guys were both personalities on the, on the air,

right? That show never got released, but Oh yeah. Well, Joel, Joel was the show that we did together had not been released yet. Oh, I guess you were too down.

Cause you were doing the video game recaps and, and our awesome soundboard, the show, man. We have to talk about that show. It was a whole lot of fun. See, now you guys got your little inside jokes and I'm not really feeling it. Let's get into it.

Okay. Joel, will you make a note that the guests should not ask? Craig, I'm going to be honest with you. Yeah, Craig, you're very divisive, man. You are divisive. Joel, if you could just jot down a note that all the guests need to ask solely about Donald and I, please. Okay, that's it.

No more of this. None of this. Tell us about you guys. You are a divisive caller, Craig. All right, Craig, time to fix your life, even though you've ruined ours. Bring a little optimism into your life with The Bright Side, a new kind of daily podcast from Hello Sunshine. Hosted by me, Danielle Robay. And me, Simone Boyce.

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Listen to Queer Chronicles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your most fabulous shows. Ready? On the count of three, it's time to fix your life! Keep the disry-do from last week, Daniel. I'm not familiar with this segment. It hasn't come out yet. Oh my gosh, that's right. It hasn't aired yet. That's so funny. We added disry-do first. The reason I chose Craig was because he had trivia questions.

And we talked forever ago about doing potentially more trivia, what it was like. And I really liked the trivia questions he had. So we're not doing Fix Your Life. We're doing trivia. We don't have a trivia theme song. Let's get into it. It's time for Scrubs Trivia.

Still with Dreduce. Now I feel like I'm missing out on fixing my life, but that's all right. Whatever that big problem was, it's fucking not going to get solved. All right, trivia, go. I've got two questions for you guys. First one is,

who was the only actor that had a story arc in both Scrubs and House? First of all, I've never watched an episode of House. I didn't think you were going to have this one. I thought Zach might have an answer for this one. Heather Graham.

Wait, no, wait, wait, wait. I got it. Michael Weston. That's right. Well done, Zach. Well, wait, no, wait, wait, wait, I got it. Michael Weston. That's right. Nailed it. Well done, Zach. Well done. Good job, Zach. Oh my god, that was a deep pull. Michael Weston played Private Dancer on our show, if you recall, and he also did a big arc on House. Also did a really

scary fucking career making arc on Six Feet Under if you remember that show. He was a very, very, very scary character that encountered Michael C. Hall. All right. Go ahead. I'm winning. You are winning. The next one is

besides Donald and Rerun, what other guest star that appeared on Scrubs was also the inspiration for a dance craze? Besides Donald and Rerun, what character appeared on Scrubs inspired a dance craze. Besides Donald and Rerun, what character appeared on Scrubs inspired a dance craze?

Hold on. Now my money's on you, Donald. Because I've got to get it. Because I've got to get this right. Is it Billy Dee? Billy Dee? Dance craze I don't know

It would be Courtney Cox as the inspiration for the Carlton dance Oh the Bruce Springsteen She inspired the Carlton She inspired the Carlton That we all love so much You mean the white people dance Yes

No but in the Bruce Springsteen video, he pulls her up on stage. Well, is that before Molly Ringwald in The Breakfast Club? Because she does the same dance in The Breakfast Club. So you're saying that all white chicks dance the same, Donald? I'm saying all white people did that dance first, and that's why Carlton was doing it, because Carlton was supposed to be the white black guy on the show. Right.

Wow, good trivia. Do you have another one? As far as trivia, that was it for trivia, but a quick question was, and this always kind of bothered me about I hope this isn't another divisive question, but it was when you guys figured out the name of the janitor

as Glenn Matthews, that kind of threw me on a curveball because the episode where you saw him in the fugitive and you kind of flipped out i'm like well why didn't you just watch the credits well bill has an answer for this um that he this was a rid i think we we didn't we never shot it though i just know that i think bill said on the our podcast didn't he say that glenn matthews was lying when he was in The Fugitive and came up with a fake name, Neil Flynn? Oh, I see.

Because he's always lying about what his name is. But his real name is Glenn Matthews. There you go, Donald. Joel tells us, sorry, Daniel tells us that Dancing in the Dark came out one year before The Breakfast Club. So Molly Ringwald got her moves from Courtney Cox. Wow, Courtney, get it, girl. Get it, girl.

So Courtney really set a dance trend that reverberated for many decades. You want to hang around while we keep talking about the show? You can. No, sure. I mean, I guess, yeah. I can't wait for the guest that's like, you know what? I got a full laundry.

I'm going to get out of here. Was there any guests or special guests that you guys really wanted to get on the show that weren't able to? You guys did such a great job. I wanted Spike Lee to direct. I knew Spike Lee was a fan of the show, and I really wanted him to direct the show. I wanted him to direct it so bad, and it never worked out. That was – and then Jamie Foxx also. I wanted somehow to get Jamieie foxx on the show

also i remember saying it to him and he was like yeah i'd be down uh but it never worked out and dule hill as well i wanted to lay on the show and holly berry that was the other one i really wanted holly berry on the show more than anything i wanted holly berry on the show zach anyone for you um i don't i can't remember i don't think so i think everybody everybody i could think of came i mean the guests you got were incredible you covered almost every all my favorite shows growing up and you know you represented one way or another it was incredible in fact scrubs i think was the last show that i remember watching like on a schedule like you know now you can just binge watch everything but that was one of those like oh it's thursday you know, you know, now you can just binge watch everything, but that was one of those, like, oh, it's Thursday. You know, got to, you know,

plan my schedule around it to watch that week by week. Whereas now you can just burn through the whole thing in, you know, a few days and just rip through the whole series. All right, we're going to finish talking about this show

because, and you're allowed to hang out because you seem like a nice person. Okay, Turk is a boob man. This is for real, for real real because he's watching his wife breathe in and out and looking at them boobs yeah and he's like would you best be nice to my cousin what was the cousin's name I don't remember umfima something like that you best be nice to my cousin umfima yeah that's me rolling now she turns into a sort of a bridezilla. Yeah, kind of, sort of.

Well, she goes crazy over this wedding. Yeah, she gets Turk in trouble. Did your wedding, which was thrown magically in my backyard, did the last couple weeks, did Casey turn into a bridezilla? No, she never really turned into a bridezilla. We had a wedding planner who helped out with everything. And so stress levels were really low in our wedding planning and planning our wedding. But yeah, I've seen – Casey's not that type of person also. Well, I'm sure a lot of listeners can relate to their partner going a little batty before the wedding.

It's a lot of pressure. What if there's not enough – Yeah, but I don't get that. I don't get – I get that it's supposed to be this party that you only get once a day, but why do people go crazy like that? Like why does it got to be – Joelle. Go ahead, Joelle. Everyone's raising their hands today. Yes, I call on Joelle.

Thank you, Zach. For many years, this was the only day women could look forward to. The only thing you were allowed to do in life was get married. If you were lucky, you had some say in your partner. But everybody knows that's the bride's day. So if you didn't get to choose your partner, at least you got to choose the party. Like, the whole dream dress thing. So, like, I think the closer it gets to the day,

a lot of women are like, well, it's gotta be my perfect magical day that I've thought about for 22 to 65 years. I want to get it right. And I think it's just the pressure and stress of it that makes some ladies and, you know, guys too, go a little, a little over the top. Do you have a wedding journal, Joelle, already?

Oh God, no. I know I don't want to get married in forest, and I don't want to wear white. That's all I got. That's the weirdest thing I've ever heard of in my life is like a wedding journal. Well, how long have you had your wedding journal for? Since I was eight. It's like, get the fuck out of here. Really?

You've been thinking about getting married since you were eight years old? Some women grow up with these princess, you know, fantasy tales. And they long for their princess moment where they are in the gown and everyone's looking at how beautiful they are. And they get to perfectly curate this one day. And I guess there's a lot of pressure for it to be perfect. But since you were eight? Yes. And younger, Donald.

It starts, and Barbie has a dream wedding gown like every year. I wonder if my daughter's thinking like that right now. I wonder if my five-year-old daughter's like it when I get married. Let's ask her. Go ask her. Get out of here, man. I don't want to find out. What if she knows she's thinking that

shit? Get out of here, man. All right. I just thought we could do a survey of... You want to find out? Let's find out. She just got out of school. Let's find out. Alright, let's ask her. You know, we try and always go to the experts

in every different area. Why not go to a young girl and ask her if she's thought at all about her wedding? I really want to know. I feel like i would have had very clear ideas about how i wanted to be married at five because what else did i have time to think about you know right well barbie helps put it in your mind right barbie yes that whole doll world and the dresses and absolutely trying to look good for ken every rom-com i

watched with my mom all the brothers really did a You've got to be a big girl and listen. Hi, darling. How are you doing? Hi, Wilder. Daddy's going to ask you a question. Go ahead, Daddy. He can't hear you. Wilder, do you ever think about your wedding? Get closer to the mic so they can hear you.

Okay, ask, Zach. Wilder, we're wondering if little kids ever think about their weddings. Have you ever thought yet about when you're older and you get married, have you ever thought about the wedding? No. Good girl. Do you ever think about the dress that you might wear one day at your wedding? Yes. Okay, tell us about the dress that you

might wear at your wedding. What does it look like? It's white. Okay, yes. It's just white. You think your wedding dress is going to be white? Why is your wedding dress going to be white, sweetie? It's because that's what

mommy's dress looks like. Because mommy's dress was white. Do you want to wear mommy's dress, the same dress? Yes. Aw. That's so sweet. I don't know. That's so sweet.

Don't laugh at us, Wilder. Wilder, sorry. All right, Wilder, thank you. You successfully answered my question. Thank you, Wilder. Thank you, Wilder. Tell daddy to give you $5. Thank you, Wilder.

Tell Daddy to give you $5. You've got to give her a payment for being on the podcast. I will get $1,100. $1,100. All right, good negotiating. You hear her laugh? It's killing me. Give that girl $1,100. Give it.

Okay, fine. Whatever. Love you, babe. Bye. No, you're done. No. No, you can't walk out with that. She walked away with the headphones.

Oh, no. All right, so there you have it. Little girls do think about their wedding style. She's already noticed she's going to wear Casey's dress. No, she only said that because you freaking coaxed her into saying that. I didn't coax her. I didn't lead the questions as they say. Yeah, you did.

You asked her, do you think about your wedding? And she said no. Then you said, do you think about your dress? And she was like, it's going to be white. Do you know what color your dress is going to be? She said it's going to be white. And then you asked her why. She said it's because my mommy's dress was white.

That's not her thinking about her wedding. That's her just remembering, oh, my mom has a white dress. So you're saying that I was leading the witness. There's no way that she knows what she wants to get married in or anything like that, man. That's my point. She knows she wants a white fucking dress, ass lips. Because her mom wore one dick face? I don't like you anymore.

You know your face is shaped like a dick, okay? You know your lips are shaped like two anuses exploded. Oh, really? Oh, really? Oh, really? Oh, really? You know, you did this to us, Craig. I know, I'm sorry. Yo, Todd getting kicked out of the OR.

Did you laugh? Yeah, that was funny, but I also laughed at me calling Sean a full-lipped bastard. Because the janitor said something like, you can't compete with that guy. Look at his full lips. And then he comes over like a full-lipped bastard. You don't want Scott Foley being the other man in your love triangle. This also made me laugh.

Why are you still here? The hospital doesn't sell cigarettes. What about when JD says to Danny, like, do you want to have sex? And she's like, fine. Don't talk. They hate each other. They hate each other. What's great is that she nails it, though.

JD wants what he can't have. That's always been his thing. I know, but it's so evil that fucking Elliot changes her whole life for him and she gets there and like cuddles up to him and he's like oh no what have I done does the relationship end once again by the end

of the season I think so it must there must be a big fallout at your wedding coming up I don't know I think we did it yeah it's an hour and a half we've given you an hour and a half of arguing and hopefully a few laughs. We love you all. We want to thank Craig

Jenkins for coming on the show. Thanks for coming on the show. Thank you guys so much for putting this together. It's been such a ray of sunshine during a time when we all really need it. Thank you, Craig. We love hearing that. We love to attempt to take people's minds off

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