Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - 401: My Old Friend's New Friend with Heather Graham

Episode Date: January 28, 2021

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Hi. How you doing? I'm good. How are you? Just trying not to eat. Are you serious? Just walking around my kitchen, just thinking about all the things I want to eat, but I'm not going to eat. Why? I'm trying to get skinny.

Dude, but you got to eat to get skinny, though. That's the thing. That's the, hold on. I know, but I had a smoothie. I had a healthy smoothie, and I enjoyed that. And then it was like, I was like, all right, leave the fucking kitchen. Don't eat. Why are you eating? Zach, how much do you weigh right now?

Truth. It's all relative. Everyone has a goal, Donald. It's all relative. Are you trying to weigh under 100 pounds? Is that your goal? No, I'd like to just lose i'd like to lose a little of my melted candle around my uh love handles got it feeling yeah good luck i used to have a trainer named jurgen bill lawrence still uses him

and yes and he used to he had all these catchphrases and he'd go uh he i go i'm so hungry and he grabbed my love handle and he'd go tell your body to eat this shit that's funny did you lose weight working out with jorgen yeah i got i got in great shape with jorgen but his point was like tell your body to eat that fat instead of whatever nonsense you're gonna eat i don't know it's hard everybody what's the best shape you've ever been in in your life what's the best shape you've ever been in um couple times i don't know i i mean you know i i it's it's it's a lot of work it's so much work that's i mean obviously the older you get i'm 45 years old it's a lot more work and And I never was that into fitness.

And I'm not trying to be like ripped. That's just too much. That's like a job. These people we all see on Instagram that we're like, fuck, look at that body. Like, that's like their job. That's all they do. I don't want that to be my job. I just would like to be not like post-holiday bod.

I totally understand what you mean I've been ripped twice in my life like ripped where there was like zero body not zero but like very little body fat on me and that was for Remember the Titans I got ripped for that that was my first time ever really working out to like I learned how

to work out doing that movie and then when I did Kick-Ass 2 I got super ripped for that, thinking I'm going to get the chance to show my muscles and stuff. And I didn't. I had a suit on the whole time. But you want to talk about being in shape. That's the best I've ever been in shape in my life.

I know. But it's such a full-time job. I just want to, I don't know, I just want to be thin. But it's hard, man. And what they tell you about the older you get, the harder it is. Like, you know, man, it's like you could train hard for a month at 45, and it's like there's like incremental changes. Well, it really does.

You were right. It does depend on what you eat. And when you're younger, it doesn't, you know, you can have a few cheat meals here and there. But now, I'm 46 years old. Now, if I want to lose, if I want to get ripped, I literally have to eat chicken,

broccoli, and drink a shit ton of water all day. And lots of other things. Like, finish, don't eat late, like, don't have any sugar, don't have any booze booze is booze if you're a drinker and you want to lose weight i'm telling you the quickest thing the quickest difference is just cut out booze right because it just falls off your body that's that

is one thing that makes a big difference and supplements also you know putting the right vitamins in your body because you're no longer getting the right supplements, because you've taken away so much nutrition by dieting. I drink this shake that's like everything you're supposed to have in a given day in one shake. It's like everything, from probiotics to proteins to all the vitamins. It's like everything. It's like your body's dream meal in a chocolate shake. I hear that.

You know, I drink the kombucha. I do drink GT's kombucha. Whenever I get like a craving and I want something sweet or I want something that's going to, you know, I drink that. Or if I want to drink, you know, some booze or something like that, I will drink GT's kombucha. That does help. We're going to have him on, right, Joelle?

Yep. We're going to have the founder of GT's on. Because whenever we talk about GT's, it's kind of hard because we don't fully understand. I mean, we understand what a probiotic is and we love the taste of it. But this guy's a really interesting guy, self-made businessman. And he's going to tell us more about it because I'd actually like to learn more about why it, A, tastes so good and B, is supposedly so good for your body's health.

Yeah. I want to learn that. I want to learn how he decided to turn something that a lot of Americans were doing into a, you know, multi-million dollar industry as well, too. You must be loaded. We got to ask him how rich he is. Also, I dare you. I dare you. I dare you. He's a really fun character. I'm sure he'll answer. I want to ask him what his thoughts are about people mixing booze in with it, because I do know some people who mix it with tequila or mix it with vodka, and he's Mr. Health Nut, so I wonder what his thoughts are on, like, what do you think when people say they

occasionally mix it in? I'm sure he's up for it. Should we tell people what happened? No. Why? I want to. Go ahead. Well, this is the premiere of season four, everybody. Yes everybody welcome to season four hello hi everybody donald and i um got in an argument on friday and uh were unable to record

this episode no you were unable to record i was good to go yes donald was fine to drop it and move on and i was pissed and certainly did not feel like pivoting and doing a comedy podcast. You know, I do have to say- You know, when we hung up, Joelle was like, do we still have a show? Is this- That's not what I said. I was like, Joelle, if you think this is how it ends,

you're crazy. We don't go out like that, Joelle. I said, this sounds like a fight me and my brother would have. I can't hear you, darling. You're muted. Joelle has horrible internet at her place. Yeah, I don't know

what this new house is doing so far, Joelle, but I don't like the internet. So far, this new house is... It's not her fault. It's not her fault. It's Spectrum, as usual.

It's Spectrum is a freaking nightmare. Oh, Daniel, stop jumping to the defense. She doesn't need your help. But it's true. That's my girl. I always want to defend her.

She's a grown-ass woman. She can handle it. By the way, I love that Joelle her. She's a grown-ass woman. She can handle it. By the way, I love that Joelle's still going on in a monologue even though she's muted. You know what? There you go. We got there. Your kitchen is nice, Joelle. It is nice. Thank you. It's so big.

We can actually all cook, the three of us, in there at the same time. Sorry to already weigh in on home decor, but get a little wheelie Middle Island thing, like a chopping board on top. That's what we're getting. We found the perfect one. It's got wine storage in it. It's so cute.

I love those things. Cottage core. Did you guys buy or are you renting? We are renting. Smart. Smart. We are not in a space to purchase yet yes joelle yeah let's let's well let's talk about that because you know homes are just you know we talk about how the economy is failing and everything like that but homes seem to be going up and up and up and up and up that

hasn't gone down yet but the rent has tanked and that's why we moved into this giant space yes we're looking to move and we can't we can't find anything that we like. You need like an 11 bedroom house. Yeah, we do need a lot. I do have a lot of kids. Wait a second. So Donald and I got in an argument and I was, it was fine. It wasn't that big a deal, but I was pissed off.

And whereas Donald was like, all right, right well let's go just do a show and i was like i'm not in the mood to like try and be funny right now and i do have to say i once took a self-help course and one thing i remembered was they said one of the most powerful skills you can develop as a human being is the ability to drop it and get over it and move on well we took the same course that's why i know but i was unable but i was unable to drop it i tried to use my skills but they didn't work and i when i went later after i had cooled down and was whatever it was fucking um whatever it was i i was calling myself out by like, you know, you didn't really nail that thing you got from the class about being able to drop it, drop an argument and move on. So that's the most I mean, it's nothing.

Obviously, it's nothing. But that was one of the most important things I got from that where it was like, look, your temper can get to the level of wow. temper can get to the level of wow but if you're able to say that was just the that was that moment i can drop it let's go forward now are you able to do that with your wife no i have a hard time with my wife yeah i imagine it's very hard in relationships because but i mean that's where the mastery of it really comes in um i you know if you can have a heated argument like all couples do and then kind of get to some place of a completion and then go okay clean slate new chap i mean that's pretty that's pretty awesome to be able to do that i i can i can do it sometimes but certainly not all the time i can do it sometimes that was the first time in a long time that i was like i can do it right now you

wanted me to try and be funny and and I wanted to fucking strangle you. Anyway, by the way, I was laughing to myself going, we should do a rewatch podcast of our fight because I have the whole thing recorded. So do I. I haven't recorded it. I haven't listened to it. I haven't listened to it yet. Not when you think I sat and listened to it back. I was laughing going, we should do a rewatch podcast of our argument. And Daniel could stop and start it.

And we can be like, see, that was a good point. Just like an NFL recap. Like an NFL recap. You guys will be out. All I remember was Daniel's face was like, his eyes were so big the whole time. He was like, what the fuck is wrong? My parents are fighting. Oh, my God.

Well, fans, let us know if you want us to do a rewatch podcast of our argument. No, no, no, no. They don't need to hear that shit. It's about 10 minutes long, and we have it all on tape. No. They don't need that shit. You guys, because you're the best fans and listeners in the world, it's season four, and we have Heather Graham, the Heather Graham here.

Heather Graham is in the house. Before we get going, we should probably five, six, seven, eight. Stories about a show we made. About a bunch of docs and nurses and a janitor who loved to hang. I said, here's a story that we all should know. So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our Gather round to hear our Scrubb's Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald What are you going to bring to season four

that's unique and fresh and different, Donald? Because, listen, we're running out of seasons. We're having too much fun. Although I'm going back to work. That's going to all be tricky. But listen. I go back to work too, man. This is going to be very difficult.

I know we're going to have to get clever. We'll talk about that. I got it. I got it. I, I, I got to tell you, man,

I'm a little nervous about, are you traveling for your movie? No, it's on. It's it's here. Thank goodness, man. I got to tell you,

I'm worried about traveling for projects and stuff like that. Where's your next project located? Well, my prod, the project i'm doing now is still in los angeles but there's a possibility that something could happen in the atl and i'm nervous about that because the atl has different uh rules than los angeles has what are you giggling about over there, Joelle? I have a lot of cousins in the ATL. I have a group chat that's mostly based in that area. And so I'll take Donald's apprehension is warranted. What about LA opening back up, even though it's fucking in crisis?

But the numbers are going down. So I can see where they're coming from. This guy did a funny video I retweeted. You can find it on my Twitter. It was really funny. He just riffed it. So basically, LA is like, go out, but don't. But if you want to go out, you can. But the restaurants are going to be open, but don't go, because it's not safe. But if you do, go to restaurants.

But if you don't, sit outside. But if you do, you're home. I'm fucking riffing a horrible version of it, but it was really funny. We're still at 0% capacity in our hospitals. Is LA still at 0%? It makes absolutely no sense. Yes. I thought we were at 12% now.

We're still at 0%. Wow. Big snowball. It makes no sense to open up. But I guess people, why, Daniel? Why are they opening up? I mean, obviously, business is needed. But I mean, why?

Profits over people, baby. That's the decision. No, but the state of California as a whole is, the numbers have gotten better as a whole of the state. In the state of California- Why is Los Angeles opening up? I have no idea why Los Angeles- I've gotten all these emails from restaurants that I go to like, yay, we're back open as

a- I'm like, what? Yeah, it just is really scary right about now. Like, there's new strands coming out. Apparently the vaccine is holding steady and will combat against these new strands. But some of them are more contagious and deadlier, you know, and the world's still moving.

I get it. I need to, you know, sack up and get out and make things happen i gotta pay my bills just like everybody else does but this shit is scary zach this ain't no this isn't i'm scared i'm gonna go outside and i'm gonna see the bully this is i'm scared i'm gonna go outside and there's a possibility. Not only do I got to worry about violence, not only do I got to worry about, you know, that unknown element out that evil element out there that's that's that's gunning to kill me. Now I got to worry about a virus like people were talking about how it's like the flu. I don't know nobody. I don't know anyone that died from the flu. I don't know one person that died from the flu. anyone that died from the flu.

I don't know one person that died from the flu. Not one. I'm trying to think. I'm sure there are people out there that do, but I don't know one person. I know a few people that have died from COVID-19. It's scary, man. It's legit.

You're right to be scared. All you can do is be as safe as you can. I barely leave my house these days because I think it's not safe. It's not worth it. What am I going to do? The car wash? It's just not worth it. I think the one thing that can be said about this entire thing is that this is a failure of policy on our government across the board.

I don't care where you are. You look at every other country in the world and the empathy that the people had for each other and the empathy that the government had for its people allowed them to progress and move forward. And in this country, it is that lack of empathy for the people themselves and this need for profit, this need to keep everything going that has gotten us to where we are

now. We do need to keep everything going. We need to start our life over again. But we just did not take the steps to earn that. And so we are paying less. And you feel like California, which is supposed to be like the example of, well, I don't know if it's supposed to be the example, but it is like the most liberal state, right? I mean, maybe except for Washington or I don't know. Sure.

Are we the most populated? We're the most populous, right, Dan? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. I mean, California is the ninth biggest economy in the world. Yeah. And I just think it's embarrassing how poorly it's been handled here, where we like to think that things run better. But didn't we have it on track?

Weren't we on track for a good portion of the – like, I remember at one point in time, we were the model. We were the – April. Yeah, in April, we were the model. We were the, you know, the... Yeah, in April, we were... Right. The curve started going like this, and we saw the curve starting to go down, and people were like, great, open to clubs. And then it went straight back up.

Right. People had to go see, what's his name? Bow Wow. He had to go see Lil Bow Wow. Listen, let's switch to a positive topic, like Heather fucking Graham, who's here. Let's bring her in. Holy hotness go see Lil Bow Wow. Listen, let's switch to a positive topic like Heather fucking Graham who's here. Let's bring her in. Holy funny hotness.

Holy funny talented hotness. And I gotta say, what bullshit that JD would ever get Heather Graham. But let's bring her in. Let's bring her in. I wonder if she looks like Heather Graham. Oh, look at her. There she is. Heather Graham! Wait, I gotta start recording myself right

What's happening Hi beautiful Oh my god So good to see you I just said the sentence that had to start Things off that there's no fucking way JD could have ever gotten Molly clock

Oh come on look we know the real love stories between you guys okay like the love is between you two of course but heather i just want to say that you know donald and i've been doing this we haven't watched the show in 20 almost 20 years and every we're having all these fun times re-watching it and laughing at things and i just gotta say right off the bat you are so fucking funny on this show let's work i want to do now that watching i'm like oh my god i want to work on it again i know it looks so fun i don't know if i truly appreciated how great it was at the moment like bill lawrence is pretty genius he is

and i think he gave you a really hard character to play and i didn't realize that he is so smart because that is actually a lot like what my personality really is i remember how he described it to me he's like she's um because i'm super into psychology right so she's really perceptive and smart but she comes off kind of spacey and you know she's really sweet but she has like some bad romantic instincts yeah and i'm like that it's kind of looking back i'm like that's a pretty perceptive read of me like bill read you like a bill read you like a tarot card but i was i was watching it going you're playing so many things at once you're playing she's a doctor she's obviously charming but she's

kind of kooky she talks to herself she holds people's faces she playing, she's a doctor. She's obviously charming, but she's kind of kooky. She talks to herself. She holds people's faces. She sits alone. She's looking for friendship. I mean, she's like, you're playing like ten different things. You're juggling all these balls, and I really, I'm not just blowing smoke. I thought you were very, very funny in this. Thank you. Not only very funny, very

charming. Very, very charming too. Well, look, I think it's a mixture of the fact that i'm great and also that uh bill is a good writer like he wrote a smart character like you can't play a complicated character like that unless someone writes it for you so he gave me a great shot in writing that character now how did it come about heather because obviously we knew you i remember us being told you were gonna do the show and we were like oh my god heather graham's gonna do our show and i was like oh my god heather graham might be one of my love interest. And

so how did it, did Bill just reach out to your agents? How did it come about? Yeah, I think he reached out to my agents and of course you guys are all fabulous. So I was so flattered and I was really excited to be on the show. I mean, watching it, it's really holds up. Like it's really a good show. Like I really want to be on it more. I'm like, I want Molly to have some more plot lines. It's fun. I was so happy when you texted me. I was texting Heather, and she goes, I want to do more episodes of this. That would be great.

Don't you think we should do it? Wouldn't it be great if we could just all go back and do this show all over again, just for a season? I know. show all over again just for a season i know get everybody who ever was on the show for more than like eight episodes and get them back and then let's just recreate one last season of scrubs with the it would be fun but the thing is is that i mean we always get asked this to do this but you need bill to do it obviously would bill do it i think he'd do it he just has a time management problem because he has... Ted Lasso.

My friend's working on a show right now, my friend Jamie Lee. I think she sent you her script. On which one? On Ted Lasso. Oh, yes! I did read her script. It's great. Yeah, it's really funny. She's one of the writers on Ted Lasso. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Bill has so much going on, but I

think you obviously need him to be involved. You need him to focus, and I just don't know that right now that's possible because he's got so many things on his plate. Yeah, I mean, time has to be right because everybody is just, you know. But it's such a good show. It really holds up.

You know how some things you think they're great, and then you watch them later, and you're like, that's not that good. You know, but Scrubs is really good. Like later, like years later, it's really smart. It's really good. Heather, I get made fun of on this podcast because I always talk too much apparently about my favorite episode, which is the one I, the first one I directed, which the whole point of the episode is that Donald and I go on a quest to bring you the permission slip. It's so sweet.

The permission slip from Elliot that we're allowed to have sex. And I just think that episode was so special. No, that was so fun. I mean, obviously, you're such a fabulous director. I mean, it was so fun to work with you. I mean, come on. You're like Mr. Dant. We need to rush through this segment.

But you're being so modest. Not like you're dating some like hot starlet right now. Like, oh, you know. I am. But I'm very flattered that you'd want to date me in scrubs. Listen, the joke continues that TV guys get way hotter girls than they deserve. And JD getting Molly Clock is... But you know what's funny is that like,

you know when you look at yourself, you don't really think like, oh, I'm attractive. But like looking at the show, I'm like, wow, I was much prettier than I thought. I mean, it's like, do you want to look at yourself? Heather, Heather, Heather. I felt like you always feel like... Heather, Heather, Heather.

Donald, you go. Heather, you go. We have questions. I just want to... I just want to, because I don't know how this is possible. You're saying that when you look in the mirror, you sometimes say, I'm not attractive? Well, no, I think it's like, yes.

Oh, God, I'm just going to make sure. I just want to say yes. Because there's no way in hell. The answer to that question is yes. Anyone on this planet could look at Heather Graham and say to them, I should not have done a track. I love how Heather's like, well, no, no. I mean, come on.

I feel like a troll right now. I'm just like in the pandemic sitting in my apartment. Like, I can't go out. You are the hottest troll any person has ever seen. All right, calm down. No, no, no. But look, isn't everyone insecure? Like, I think I looked at the episode.

I was like, wow. Like, I think I was insecure. You know, you don't think, I don't know. I mean, did you guys think, wow, I'm just like so gorgeous. insecure like i think i looked at the episode i was like wow like i think i was insecure i you know you don't think i don't know did i mean did you guys think wow i'm just like so gorgeous and like all the ladies are gonna fall for me i never think that though but you know my track record however is you know i got casey cobb and that's it and i'm happy you know donald and i don't really look at ourselves and think we ever really i mean mean, you guys are like heartthrobs, right? I'm sure lots of girls.

I was never considered a heartthrob. We were never a heartthrob. I occasionally will see a picture of me that I think is good. And I'm like, oh, a picture of me I like. I look, my nose is at a decent angle there. I like it. You were doing some chest nudity in one of the episodes I noticed. I was in decent shape.

Well, this was clearly coming back from a hiatus. Season three, four. You looked pretty fit. Yeah. I must have been in somewhat of shape. Yeah, because season three, when you came back, you weren't as in shape. I know.

I was doughy. I was, something was up. But I really like my hair in this, too. I thought my hair looked good. I thought Sarah's new hair looked good. We're done with the rocker, Bob. No, she's great. I love Sarah.

Is Sarah on the podcast? I got to go back and listen to her. Oh, yeah, we had her on a bunch. We're going to the rocker, Bob. No, she's great. I love Sarah. Is Sarah on the podcast? I got to go back and listen to her. Oh, yeah. We had her on a bunch. We're going to have her on, I think, maybe next episode. But let's go through. So, Heather, the way this works is Donald will first do a summary of the episode. And he does it in roughly 30 to 40 seconds.

Right, Donald? Something like that. In that range. And then we'll discuss the episode after. So, I get my timer out, Heather, because I like to time Donald to see how fast he can do it. Wait, wait, Zach, where are you? I'm in Los Angeles. Oh, okay, cool.

Looking out your window, I don't know why. It looks like it was like snowing or something. No, no, no. It's sunny, although abnormally cold. All right, Donald, are you ready? I believe I am. Please impress Heather because, you know, she's a VIP guest. All right, on your marks, get set, go.

Season four starts off with a bang. We got Heather Graham, y'all. The gang's all grown up. There'll be doctors in one week. JD's excited. Elliot feels left out. Carla and Turk are really feeling the pressure of their new nuptials, and Cox has seen it all before.

Responsibility? I'm not a fan of the word, but I understand its importance. When we're young, we can't wait to have it, but once we get it, we are often overwhelmed. I am very irresponsible, but thank

goodness for Casey Cobb. Yeah. Amen. Wow. That was a good wrap up. And you wrapped it up. You stuck the landing with a testament to your wife. You know, you always got to, when talking about your flaws, you talk about what makes

it so your flaws are acceptable to the world. And I am lucky because I have Casey Cobb who takes my flaws and says it's his flaws. Love him for it. Oh, that's so great. You're so lucky to have a woman like that. I do. I got the best hype man. Like, you know, Jay-Z has Miff Bleak. I got

freaking Casey Cobb. She's your Farnsworth Bentley. No, no, no, no, no. That's like your assistant. Was it fun riding on those scooters? It looked fun. That wasn't us. By the way, how did they do that? How did they do it? Because that looked like us. By the way, I got to say, Heather, it's funny you bring that up because I am a tech film geek. I like to zoom in and figure out how shit was done. And the only thing I can assume on that scooter gag is that the stuntmen

are slightly out of focus and they look enough like us that you can't tell. But dude's making my face. They're making our faces and everything. But it's not green screen and it's certainly not us

doing scooter tricks. So I don't know what the fuck they did. This is an Ask Bill question. Season four, Ask Bill. I don't know if Bill will know. It might be an Ask Randall question. Can we get Randall?

Let's ask Randall. Oh yeah, we have the power. Okay, this. It might be an Ask Randall question. Can we get Randall? Let's ask Randall. Oh, yeah. We have the power. Okay. This is our first edition of Ask Randall. You got to put some fancy music here. Yes. It needs to be like village people.

Hey, Randall. Wait, your dog is so cute. Is that your new dog, Zach? Yes, that is my dog who's one year old. Her name is Billy, and she's a rescue, and she's my favorite creature. So cute. But wait, I wanted to say, so Randall, so Heather, we're going to ask Randall a question. He won't answer it live here, obviously, but we'll put in the answer.

Randall, how did we do that scooter gag? Because it looks so good. I know that Donald and I obviously weren't doing tricks like that, and it's not green screen, but it kind of looks like us. My only thought is that the stuntmen are enough out of focus that you can't tell that they're stuntmen. I don't know, but it's dupe. What's the word?

It's not duped me. What is the expression? I was duped. I've been duped. I've been tricked. I've been fooled. How did you do it, Randall? How did we do it as a team?

The scooter thing from episode one, season four. It's really funny. It's great. What I guess what you need to know is it was season four. So that deep into a show, we had regular stunt people who always doubled for Zach and Donald. And as much fun as we were having, and when you have people around like that,

they get to know the actors and they're fans of the show. So they know the mannerisms and the faces. And then we put Judy Scooter on a rig. So she held steady while they did their thing. And obviously, as a fan, you know that scooter gags became a big part of the show. So that's it. But definitely fun and memorable.

If I did do it, I don't remember. How about that? We didn't do it, dude. They're doing, like, serious tricks. They're they're like spinning around on the bike no but the one where he's riding the scooter and his feet are on the ground and he's sliding right i don't know how they did it thank you randall thank you randall all right we need to take a break joel yep all right we'll be right back after these fine words with the he Graham, you guys. The Heather Graham. Bring a little optimism into your life with The Bright Side,

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entrance onto scrubs they always have their beautiful blowing entrance uh we always i feel like you more than any character in the nine years of scrubs had the most slow motion fan really? Oh, I'm so flattered. I mean, it is cool. Like as a woman to get like some fans on you and like a slow motion entrance.

I did feel like I'm grateful. We don't discriminate. It's not just a fan entrance for the women. Scott Foley got a lovely fan. Wow. That's cool. Yeah, that's cool.

And in yours, we reveal that the janitor is holding a fan on cool. That's cool. And in yours, we reveal that the janitor is holding a fan on you. That's true. Because he's drying wet urine because somebody urinated on the floor? Yeah. Was there a urine problem? It was like a urine

stain? Wait, do you know what I noticed? I don't know. Did you guys notice this from watching? I recognized that I got to keep a lot of my clothes and I was recognizing my clothes. I'm like, oh, that's where I got those shirts and skirts. Welcome to Scrubs. We all took what we needed. Yeah.

The sequence of us missing each other and being reunited is so funny when Donald's back from his honeymoon. I think it's like you really feel the love you guys have for each other, which I think is real in life and on the show. You can feel that love. What really caught me off guard, though, was when they were right next to each other. What was their plan? Why did they have so much trouble meeting up?

Right. We'll call this from here on out, we'll call this Roof A. How did this happen? It's just over and over again. Turk, JD! Turk, JD! And then they run past each other in the hallway.

Yeah. It's like so, so broad. And turn around. And then I mount you. That is the first mount backwards eagle in Scrubs history. The reverse eagle. The reverse eagle. I remember us coming up with that on the day and

being like this is so stupid but we were fucking laughing so hard we were so giddy about it like well the funny thing is we had been separated for the hiatus so we really were like we really were feeling like that like tur JD oh I really laughed I didn't understand why did Turk and Carly decide to immediately leave

from the plane go to the hospital like from the from their honeymoon from the airport well maybe they timed it out so they had a shift

they had to get back to just in time they maximized their honeymoon that is just the dumbest maneuver by them it also might be a TV show, or it's better for them to arrive at the hospital. I think that's right.

I'm going to go with the latter. I'm going to go with the latter. How about the Sugar Hill Gang alarm clock? That's fun. Oh, that was cool. That was very cool. I am a fan of the Sugar Hill Gang. That was one of the,

that is the second rap that I ever learned. The first one was, cause these are the breaks. Break it up, break it up, break it up. Or you could do, break it up, break it up, break it up. Or you could do break it up, break it up, break it up, break down. What's that? Curtis Blow, baby. Does the Sugar Hill Gang have other songs that are popular besides this one?

Hip, hop, hippity hop to the hip, hop, hop. You don't stop. I mean, it's the hip hop anthem, though. That's one of the – Did you guys get to meet them? You guys get to hang out with them? They did the scene where they're in the Mini Cooper and they're rapping. Oh, wow.

Yeah, that's right. I remember that. And I got to dance with them rapping. You're like this with your arms up with the spinning... What was it like, Donald? Because you had liked them. I mean, I knew the song, but I wasn't a huge fan of them. But it must have been fun for you

to meet them. It was a lot of fun for me to meet them. That's royalty. They're like the originators of hip-hop. If you just listen to the sound and the way it comes off. It was one of the longest songs

ever, too, back in the day. You could rock out to it. And the beat was fine. Boom, boom, boom. Ba-boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, ba-boom. Boom, boom. That shit is fine. I noticed in the alarm clock moment, everyone gets a chance to rap except one guy.

And so he was just kind of there, like, bopping his head. Skimmy b-bop, tree bop. Skimmy doo. Guess what? America, we love you. Giveim the bee bop, tree bop. Skim the bee doo. Guess what? America, we love you. Give that other guy a chance to rap, guys. I laughed out loud when I hit snooze and the Sugar Hill Gang falls asleep. Falls asleep.

That was funny. That was clever. Now, Carla's chair is another funny thing So Carla has moved into the apartment And she's brought with her Those chairs that you kind of just kneel on And I laughed out loud When I fall over

And I'm like it's like a bear trap Were you really connected to the chair? I really went over in that thing Really? I imagine that's a lot of that thing really well onto a thin mat I imagine that's a lot of pain dude I went onto a thin mat

and it was fine okay it was definitely didn't hurt as much as other things I've done for America to laugh at

do you remember rice dream rice dream was rice dream yes yes I remember that Heather you're a health nut you probably drank

a lot of rice dream it was ice cream but rice cream. It was ice cream, but Rice Dream. Oh, it was ice cream. Mm-hmm. Did you eat Rice Dream? Were you a Rice Dream fan? Well, okay. Look, do you remember the no fat eating craze where, like, we all just ate all the sugar,

but we tried not to eat fat? Yeah. Well, you know, we were wrong. Why? Because you're supposed to have some fat, right? No, but rice dream, yeah, fat's good and sugar's bad. Now we know. But basically rice dream is if you don't want to have dairy ice cream, you can have ice cream made out of rice.

I see. But it's way more sugar. It's got tons of sugar. Everybody's so crazy about this Beyond Meat and all of this, you know, Beyond stuff. It's processed so much you and and and and that's just as bad as eating red meat you know well no if you have a if you have a a feeling that you don't want to eat animals that have that level of consciousness um right okay well that's a different thing if you're like i don't want to eat animals because they're alive and I want everything to live, I totally understand that.

I have a question about plants then also. But that being said. I know, but I mean, for example, did you watch that octopus teacher? Is that what it's called, guys? I don't want to eat an octopus anymore. I don't. I'll never eat a dolphin either. I'll never eat dolphin.

But did you watch Octopus Teacher? I did and I loved it. All I know is that I saw that octopus freaking opened up a freaking jar from the inside. I was like, I'm glad that's not. I know you don't watch things, but will you please watch this? Pretend there's a Star Wars subplot. You have to watch this. Do they blow up the Death Star in it?

I'll sit next to you and be like, imagine that this moment, that that's Anakin. That fish is Anakin. I'm in! No, it's so good. That's the title, right you guys, Joelle? My Octopus Teacher. Yeah, My Octopus Teacher. If you haven't watched it, please watch it. It really well, at the very

least, it made me go, well, I'll never eat octopus again. They're super smart. Yeah, I was crying. I thought it was inspiring. Oh my octopus again they're super smart yeah i was crying i thought it was inspiring oh my god it broke my heart i was crying too yeah yeah my eyes out it's beautiful they snuggle at the end oh and i want an octopus snuggle i know he was in love did you guys get that uh thing i sent you in a text message with the two dogs that keep posing for the camera no oh yeah the white and, yeah, the white and the black dog. The white and the black dog.

Kind of reminded me of us. Oh. Great rant from Johnny. Yes, Johnny has a very long, epic, funny monologue that we couldn't possibly do justice to, but it's listing, it's like a season four opener. It's like listing all of the things he hates, including Hugh Jackman. Hugh Jackman.

Is this the first time he mentions hating Hugh Jackman? This is where the hate began for Hugh Jackman. Now, people have always asked us, why does Dr. Cox hate Hugh Jackman? And I think Bill's answer is usually that he was jealous that Hugh Jackman was good at so many things. It has to be that, because I don't know how you can hate Hugh Jackman. Yeah, nobody hates Hugh Jackman. He's Wolverine. Not only is he Wolverine, but he can sing and dance.

I was about to say, not only that, he's a phenomenal actor, too. He's about to star, once COVID is over, in The Music Man with Sutton Foster on Broadway. Sutton got to come up. Go on, girl. She went from younger to freaking Sutton Foster. Sutton Foster is first and foremost a Broadway dancer musical theater star. But she was in Younger too, right?

Yeah, she got Younger after her success on Broadway as a Thoroughly Modern Millie and the Drowsy Chaperone. Yes, Joelle. Love Drowsy Chaperone. She's like the Scarlett Johansson of Broadway musicals.

Oh, shit. her dancing is so insane that whereas some people um on broadway you go wow she has a sick voice and she's an okay dancer or oh my god she's a dancer but she can kind of sing sutton is like level 10 on both well i ain't seen her do the freaking i think my butt getting big challenge yet, so I don't know about all of that. What's the I think my butt getting big challenge? It's the bus it challenge. Oh, my gosh. Oh, you drop it?

Yes, exactly. I don't think Sutton's that kind of dancer, Donald. Then she ain't my type, but then she don't dance my type. So do you go look at, are you on TikTok now, Donald, looking at these? I am not on TikTok, but. I think my butt getting big. My butt getting big. And then it's like women standing there like this, right? Like they're normal like this, right?

And he goes, I think my butt getting big. My butt getting big. My butt getting big. And they turn to the side and drop. Right. And then they're netted down like this with their ass. And they bob it, bob it this with their ass and they twerk they twerk that ass

in the camera if you get the chance look for it how are you seeing these if you're not on TikTok because they show up on Instagram I'm going to do research for the show solely just for the show don't do it for any other purpose how do we look it up Donald

I think my butt getting bigger. What's it called, Joelle? It's called the Busset Challenge. The Busset Challenge. How do you spell Busset Challenge, Joelle? I think – B-U-S-S-I-T, right? Busset.

Can you please find out because I want to research this. Yeah. This is very important because I've seen some of the – I've seen some people that I didn't think their butt could get big like that i was surprised that they but got big all right well i i'm gonna research for the show solely for the show do it for the show because that's why every time i go on tiktok i have gone on tiktok just because i'm curious what everybody's up to and um you can get lost in some crazy shit like what well i mean i I mean, I'm not even talking about the, there's a lot of sexual stuff,

obviously people dancing provocatively, but I just mean like, no matter what you think of, you can get down a wormhole. I mean, like anything on the internet, you can put down the craziest wormhole of conspiracy theorists and crazy people. Joelle, are you on TikTok? No, TikTok scares me.

I'm overwhelmed by all of the content and all the options you have and i was like how do you even press record on here it's for young people and i'm officially well there's a lot of young people that aren't on it i mean it started i think is like kids doing the choreographed dance but now there's a lot of other aspects to it oh wait he's holding up his phone are you gonna show us a busset it's blown out can you fix we can't see it can you fix it so it's not blown out? Alright. Oh, they change clothes as well when they busset?

Oh, God, yeah. Essential. I never thought I'd be watching twerk videos with Heather Graham, but here we are. It's supposed to be like you're in casual clothes, and then once you drop it down, you are in your fanciest attire. So here's somebody who I would have never guessed.

Okay, attractive woman in her sweatpants just hanging around. And I feel like she's about to bust it. And she does. That's interesting. She got the framing wrong. Yeah, she messed up her framing. She got the framing wrong. Yeah, we missed the butt.

The butt get big. We missed the butt get big. All right, let's focus on Scrubs. As much as I want to do a Busset Rewatch show, we should probably do a Scrubs. We should totally do a Busset Rewatch show. That's what we'll do after we're done with Scrubs. We'll just review Busset videos. We'll just review Busset videos.

So send your Busset videos to me and Zach. No, my God. No, please don't. Please don't. Please don't. I don't need that shit. My wife would be like, yo, what the fuck is this? I'd be like, sorry, honey.

It's my job. I now review Buss It videos. I Buss It. You guys have not changed very much. I know. For better or for worse. Heather, for better or for worse. I know.

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I'm going to beat you And Kelso goes, well of course you'll beat her son She's having half her brain removed. Yeah. A dick. He is a dick. Malik blew up. Malik blew up.

Yes, the car blew up. By the way, were you there when they blew the car up? Yes, that was, I remember the heat. That was the one thing I remember from that was, I don't, there wasn't, I don't remember like the sonic boom from the explosion. Yeah, they added that. I think they added that. The boom, but I do remember the heat.

Because the car did explode in some, you know what I mean? They must have added some sort of pyrotechnic explosion, but then they added the sound in post. Is that what happened? Well, no, it was a loud, it exploded, and I was far away from it. But I don't remember the, I remember feeling like, all right, right it's gonna blow don't anticipate it and when it blows do the jump but then the heat that came after it was really surprised that was the surprising part did you

ask anyone before you filmed that scene so close to an exploding car if they had remembered to empty the gas tank i did not i feel like i would have been like hey guys just just checking in on a little question um that would have been a good question i remember the pilot when i was doing the gag i've told you guys this but i was doing the gag of the the 18 wheelers headed right for me the way we did it was it was started at my face and then he floored it in reverse now granted a semi doesn't reverse very fast, but still, it would have killed me. And I remember being like, just double checking. You're in reverse, sir.

He was like, yep. I mean, that's a lot of pressure. Double check. You're in reverse. You sing the sad song in this. That is so funny. We acknowledge the sad song finally. Yeah.

So this is that moment, if you guys remember, if you haven't watched the episode, where J.D. talks about the score of the show, which at this point, beginning of season four, we were already kind of making fun of the fact that there were only like six cues that they ever used. And whenever there was a sad moment, it was... And J.D., for the first time, totally breaking the fourth wall, comments on the score in his head. Well, no, he says it to Dr. Cox first. He says to Cox, he's like, you know, I'm just ready for whatever it is, the news that you're going to give me, because I have the song ready to play in my head. It usually goes something like this.

And then he cuts you off. And then at the end, it goes to the song ready to play in my head it's usually it goes something like this and then he cuts you off and then at the end it goes to the song and the real score comes on right and then you go there it is that's so clever yeah that was really clever yeah um i laughed out loud when you go um there's nothing mini about me. And I go, there isn't. That was a really good joke. He's so earnest, Donald. There isn't. There isn't. It's sort of like, what's his name? Stedman? It's like a baguette.

Like a baguette. JD is Turk's hype man sometimes. Yeah. He's very proud of how thick you are. Yeah, no, you were proud. Very proud. I'm proud of my man. Pr. Yeah, no, you were proud. Very proud. I'm proud of my man. Proud of his girth. Proud of my man's girth. Now we say Wolverine, Wolverines, let's roll.

I've never seen the Wolverines. Is that a bad thing? We talked about this. You've never seen Red Dawn, have you? Never seen Red Dawn or Wolverines. Oh, Red Dawn is the Wolverines movie. That's the Wolverines. Wolverines, let's roll.

Well, they don't go let's roll, but they're like the Wolverines. If you get a chance, check it out. Patrick Swayze's in it. I don't want to watch Red Dawn. I don't think I want to watch Red Dawn. Really? Why not? I just feel like I've got a lot of stuff to watch. I don't know if Red Dawn's going to make the list. Okay. Well, it's a lot of fun. Don't watch the remake. Watch

the original. You know we're watching nonstop right now. We're binging like crazy is Top Chef. You ever watch Top Chef? Yeah. So good. It's so fun. You know, because I really love the competition of it all. I love competition game shows where talent is the thing that

makes you succeed. You know? I do like that. And this is so fun to watch these amazing chefs. It makes you hungry though. Don't you watch it and get hungry? It does. I know. You shouldn't watch it if you've had a weed gummy because then you're like, what concoction can I go make?

The Great British Bake Off, that makes you so – I know. I love that too, Heather. You just want to get cake. I'm working my way through both of those. You know what show I don't necessarily watch but I love it because I got some sex because of it. What? Go on.

Bridgerton? Is that the name of the show? Bridgerton? You got sex because of Bridgerton? Oh, my God. Why? Is it because there's a lead as a very handsome African-American man? Very handsome African-American male.

Casey got all riled up. And so in the last episode of this season, there's like this whole scene where they have sex finally. And he says a line. He's like, I burn for you. And I just happened to be in the area when this shit happened. And I heard that. And, you know, there was an audible from my wife. And I was like, oh, it's going to happen tonight.

I knew right then and there. It's going to happen tonight. So I waited until she packed up everything. She put all of the stuff away. And she was like, I'm about to go to bed. I was like, baby, I burned for you. Did you?

Yeah, I did. And she said, shut the fuck up. Get upstairs. Take your fucking pants off. Take your pants off and get upstairs. That is so funny. I wonder if across the earth Because this Bridgerton show is so popular

If men are getting more laid Because their women are getting all riled up It's like Fifty Shades of Grey They get all riled up Especially if they've got like I mean it's a show about It's about humans rich and poor And

Instead of it's about humans rich and poor and uh instead of it being about race uh none of that's none of that matters it's about who's rich and it's the class they just make it about class and they make it all about they ignore what color anyone is right exactly and so because of that you have everybody fucking everybody dude and uh but is the sex sexy? Joelle, you watch it. Well, that's the thing. It's not- It's basically a soft core porn. Right.

Really? Oh, yeah. The nudity is way beyond what you would see on- It's like more than Game of Thrones? No, no, no, no, no, no. It's not more than Game of Thrones. Shonda Rhimes found a way to make it so that you could see the ass you want to see. Well, it's Netflix, so you can have more nudity than ABC where her deal was.

Is it Chandra Rimes? It's Chandra Rimes. Yeah, it's Chandra's. Am I correct that it is Chandra's first Netflix show? Yes. So Chandra moved to Netflix from ABC in like a colossal, gargantuan, Oprah-sized deal. And this is her first show. And she put out a period piece, but it's like a nighttime soap.

Yeah, no, I've seen the ads. I just haven't watched it yet, but now you've got me excited. You should watch it, Heather. You can check it out. Yeah, I found out about it through my wife because she was watching the show, and I was like, what the heck is this? And I took five minutes, and I realized, okay, this isn't for me, but my wife now has porn.

I think that's important. You know, we need our porn too, you know, because male porn is pretty disturbing sometimes. Yeah. So women don't like, stereotypically women don't like the porn that men watch. They like something like 50 shades of gray or, or Bridgerton. Right. I think as a woman occasionally looking at porn, it's like some of it is really dark. You're like, I just wanted to watch some people having sex, maybe some interesting situations, but I don't want to watch people getting hurt.

They have a lot of weird incest stuff on there. I think that's kind of creepy. It is creepy, right? There's a lot of that. Why has that become such a trend? Do you think it's because the taboos are all gone and people are like, well, that's the final taboo? I mean I guess so. It's a lot of my stepmom, my stepdad.

Right, and I don't want to see like an under – like I don't want to see a girl that looks like she's like 14 either. I'm like this is disturbing. Like if they're like consenting adults, I could be like, okay. But if like some girl like looks like she's like still in high school and she really looks like that, I'm like, this is too disturbing. Yeah. It seems to me that someone should start a porn company that's specifically for women. They have actually. There are some online.

I mean, not like I'm an authority, but I did notice there was one. Donald, do you want to start this company with me? I would love to, but that means we got to go and audition hot guys. I'm fine with that. I can weigh in on the right. I have no problem. I can totally tell when a man is handsome and when a man is not handsome. Right, right.

So we can say, okay, James, I like your abs. You're hired. But I think there's a lot of like not cute guys in porn like the women are always pretty hot but i feel like the guys are not as because the porn is made for men and that is interesting and they don't even show the man right they usually show just the woman my wife they show enough of my wife and i were watching porn together and she was like well when are they going to show the guy? I said, oh, baby, that's not how porn works.

But I bet you can find – I mean I'm not an expert on this, but I'm sure you can find porn that's probably more geared towards – if you want to watch something with your woman that's going to turn you both on, something that's not sort of that aggressive male point of view. But if not, Donald and I are going to start a company. Awesome. This is our press release. I laughed really hard at Akbar saying, run away with me. That was so funny. Heather, when you hold the guy's head and you go, Akbar, Akbar, Akbar. And he goes, run away with me.

That was so cute. I know, he was funny. The best delivery. By the way, it's funny that you have the character Molly has this technique of holding people's faces. Because I've told everyone on the podcast before, and I'll remind you guys, this technique I have for remembering people's names. You just picture someone from your life in that position like all right i'll explain it better did i tell the guard gate story when it went before uh there was this guy at the guard gate on one of the back lots and and i always had to say hi to him and i could never remember his

name so and his name was mark so i pick and my and my school there was like a kid named mark and he was um a jock and he was a drinker and he was kind of nuts and it was a character and he had red hair and i pictured it was like the first mark that came to my mind and so i just pictured that character from my life in the guard booth huh and but what if you don't know someone with the same name? You will. I mean, unless it's a really rare name. Yeah. Okay. Like, what if the name is Adeo Chun?

Yeah, I would picture you. My point is, is that your brain, my brain, and people's brains have a way of storing it better. So next time you pull up to that guard gate, you picture the person that you remembered in that guard booth. And I just went, oh, Mark. Hey, Mark. And he looked at me like, wow, you remember my name.

That technique, by the way, is called the memory palace. OK. It's when you place things in a space and give them a very specific pointed memory that allows you to remember them. It's called the memory palace. OK. Well, guys, I'm telling you, try the memory palace. You don't forget.

I'm going to try it. You don't forget. And I'm horrible with names. And it just made me think of this again, Heather, when Molly, the character, is doing this thing where she's holding everyone's faces and saying their name three times. Because how many times do you meet someone and shake their hand and you walk away and go, wait,

fuck, what was his name? Because you're nervous to meet someone or whatever and you're not focusing on digesting their name. Well, it's funny how people have different reactions to Molly trying to remember their names. Like Akbar is sort of like, oh. And then one guy is like, let go of my face. Well, that's Kelsor.

Kelsor is like, that's great. Kelsor is like, just get off me. I mean, even as beautiful as you are, I don't know that I'd want a stranger coming up to me and grabbing my face. Well, not during COVID times either. Well, not during COVID times especially. Dude, we could totally see our old cars in the parking lot. Are you checking this at all? Have you been looking at this?

Which car is it? You have the Z at this point. Yeah, my 350Z that you made fun of. The silver one. You have the silver one right before the Porsche. Listen, the 350Z came out. I told you this. And I thought it was the sexiest car in the world.

And I was so happy to get a fancy car. And Donald made fun of me. He's like, that's the car you got. I was like, dude, you got a freaking sitcom check now. Yeah. I think maybe now's the time.

Did I tell you that now it's season four. I'm all in my head. If I've told all these stories already, but did I tell you the story about what, that one of the guys who, who I beat out for the part, I ran into him and it was like awkward. And he kind of looked at me.

He was like, Oh, congrats, man. What card you get did you say I got the Z? yeah I didn't know that it was uncool to say I bought a 350Z

and when you said that was he like oh well congrats dude I don't think I had bought a cool car yet it had like just happened and I was like my brain his brain was like if I get this part I'm getting a car well yeah man i mean everybody that's everybody right when you audition for a role

that's the thing it's the hardest thing to be in a moment for these auditions like you you get the audition and you're like i'm so excited to audition for this you look at the sides and then all of a sudden your head your mind wanders off into all the things that you're going to do after you get the part. You know what I mean? After I get this part, I'm going to go on vacation. What I'm going to do with this money? I'm going to get me, I'm going to get, shit, my girl going to get a, I'm going to get her a Rolex. You think about all of the things you're going to do with this money and all of the fame that's going to come with this part before you even get it.

And then you go on the audition. Maybe it helps you get it. It never helps because you go on the audition and when you walk out, you're like, well, I guess I got to wait for the next audition to get that role. You know what I mean? Like, it's the worst, man.

Like, I always do that. The auditions that I do great on are the ones where I'm like, I don't give a fuck, man. I'm just going to go in there. I'm going to do whatever the fuck it is I do, and I'm going to leave. And I'm not going to talk. I'm not going to try and wow anybody with the freaking what I've been doing in my off time.

Fuck that shit. I'm going to go in there. I'm going to fucking do the audition, and I'm going to leave. Yeah. And those are the ones where I usually get the fuck. Heather, do you still audition for things occasionally? Well, that's what I was wondering. I feel like when we were auditioning for things, I just feel like people don't audition in person anymore.

And now I feel like everyone has to send a tape if you ever do. Like, do you guys ever audition in person anymore? Well, no. Well, not during COVID. But before COVID, occasionally, Heather, when it was like a super fancy director. Yeah, yeah, yeah. By the way, the director wouldn't necessarily be there. It was like some mega A-list director, but they're interested.

They want you to go in. And if it was someone I'm dying to work with, I would do it. But yeah, you're right. Yeah, same. I actually think it's better, though, Heather, because you have more. Really? It's a self-tape. Well, don't get me wrong.

It's great to go in the room and meet the director and shoot the shit and and see if you have a connection um but i do think a self-tape you can at least shape and practice and only send the best one right but i think some people might be surprised that you know no matter even when you've had success in this business you still have to go out and campaign to get parts auditioning is terrifying it really is it's the hardest thing on the planet when it comes yeah it's the hardest thing on the planet when it comes yeah that's the hardest thing in acting forget yeah the part forget doing the role forget all of the other stuff forget everything that comes after you get the part or before you get the part the audition is that's the toughest thing to do you only it's harder than doing the

role for sure in the actual role yeah You only get one shot to nail it. You get one shot. And if you're lucky, the director says, I like that. Let's try it again this way. And usually when that happens, that doesn't necessarily mean you got the role. That just means your preparation wasn't what the director saw. You know what I mean? And so it's like it's the hardest thing ever and so to get roles and i'm always i'm always so

appreciative that an audition was all it was what it took for me to you know you liked what i did in the room you're gonna love what i do when i when when the camera's rolling then that's the case it does feel like there's no other way to really do it but but but it does feel like not a great test for how well you're going to be on set because you're coming in with all this adrenaline. You're coming in with nerves. You're doing it in front of however many random people. And so it's not, it's a bit like an obstacle course.

You know what I mean? Like you have to like do it now, under pressure, go. But God, there's such a high though when you know you killed it and they know you killed it. And there's like- Yeah, it is amazing. It's crazy in the waiting room too though when you see other the other people that are auditioning you know and if you know them or yeah it's very people play mind games too i remember

back in the day like all these people would be like i really was aware of the psychology of the waiting room how people would try and distract you how people would you know start conversation with you like they knew you were going next so they would like try and keep take your mind off of learning the art you know working on the lines and no i just remember this one kid uh where i was up for this part he came out of the room and he was swiping away his tears and he's like break a leg guys and um we all looked at each other like flipping through the sides like where's the fucking crying scene and this dude

I got to know him and he could just cry on cue and so he would just put it into any audition to show off that he could like cry even if the scene didn't call for it

because he thought it was like going to blow their minds and I remember I asked him once I go so you're just crying in like every audition he's like yeah i tried to just to like show him what i can do and i was like wow um okay

well what do you how do you do that he goes i just think anyone doing anything bad to animals oh i was like okay you know what okay waiting in the waiting room when you hear someone else killing is also sucks right when you're waiting and you can hear that person who's in there is like just killing and everyone loves them. That's also horrible. But don't you also remember those times when you're in there and you hear someone go and they're like – and they suck and you're like, yes, I'm better than that. Thank God. We should go to break. We got to go to break.

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And you're very good at this because you're spiritual and you know a lot about psychology. So you're probably going to be very helpful in fixing their life. So let's invite them in. Danil? No problem. Here they come. Brittany Rogers. Brittany Rogers. Today's guest is going to need some... Oh myil, no problem. Here they come. Brittany Rogers. Brittany Rogers. Today's guest is going to need some. Oh, my goodness.

Brittany. Gentlemen, give it up for Brittany Rogers and friend. Oh, my God. Hi, Brittany. Hi, guys. Brittany Rogers and friend. Nice to meet you. Can you fix your camera so we can see your beautiful faces?

Oh, oh. There you go. Hi. Who is your friend with you, Brittany Rogers? Okay, well, technically, I'm the guest. My name is Alex, and this is Brittany. Hi, Alex and Brittany. Brittany Rogers and Alex!

There you go. You got your Oprah voice introduction. That's the Heather Graham. You got Daniel and Joelle. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, I know. I'm excited too. I get it. That's how I feel whenever I see Heather. Um, so guys, where are you calling from? Yeah. Outside of Atlanta. Oh, ATL in the house. I think ATL is where the little Bow Wow concert was. Were you guys at the little Bow Wow concert? Ew. I didn't even know he still did shows.

Can I say that on here? Yeah, you can. We want you to be speak freely. Oh my God, this is crazy. Okay, Zach, I have to tell you, I had the hugest crush on you. Why does it have to be past tense? Because you are ugly now.

Because you're ugly now. Why the fuck does it have to be a problem? I mean, I know I'm old as fuck, but it doesn't have to go away. Can't you have an old crush? It's not past tense. It's 100% present tense. Thank you, darling. But I can't say that because I have an even bigger crush

on your girlfriend. Yes, me too. You guys, Flo is so beautiful. Yes, she is. I'm very lucky. Yeah, you are. I'm super jealous. I get it. I get it so beautiful yes she is i'm very lucky i'm very lucky you are i'm super jealous i get it i get a girl um listen do you guys have a question you can ask anything you want for any of us it could be just anything that comes to your mind preferably a little bit about scrubs but it doesn't have to be okay um well i do want to do a shout out for all the uh pharmacy techs because we don't get shout outs very often shout out for all the pharmacy techs because we don't get shout outs very often.

Shout out to all the pharmacies. Did you get your vaccine? Yes, I did. Actually, Pfizer or Moderna. I got the Pfizer one, which covers the other two strains. So I'm good. So Moderna doesn't Moderna doesn't cover the other two strains. Is that what is this what we're learning? So far, that's what is there. There isn't research yet saying that it has, but Pfizer does. They have done the research. Okay. I have a question. What can a pharmacy tech do and not do? What are they allowed to do? And what does the pharmacist have to do? Okay. Well, so I do, I work in the ER, I do patient interviews. And like, I asked them what medications they're taking, so that like, they don't take something that counteracts with something that we give them. And then the pharmacist reviews those.

I see. We do a lot of like hands on and then all of our work is checked by the pharmacist. Got it. But are you allowed to pour out the pills and make sure the right amount's in? Yeah, yeah. So I work in a hospital, like I said. So a lot of the stuff I do are like IV bags, which is my favorite thing to do. Got it. I make like Epi bags and Keppra, stuff like that.

That's great. I have another question. Can I ask you another question about that? It's not the side effects I'm worried about when it comes to the Pfizer vaccine. What are the allergic reactions when it, like, they say if you're allergic to certain things in medicine, you shouldn't take the Pfizer. Is this correct? Well, I can tell you with all vaccines, I studied vaccines in school.

It's part of the pharmacy program. And all vaccines, the main component is eggs. So if you're allergic to eggs, you can't get any vaccine. Okay. But as far as the Pfizer one, the allergic reactions are usually like not as well known because it's so new. They tested it on people with different allergies. And, um, you know, I was told from the research that we've done as a hospital, that the reactions are minimal as far as allergic reactions. Did you get every did you get a reaction to it? No. Um, so I don't like getting the flu vaccine, but I do it because it's part of my job and it hurts going in.

But the Pfizer vaccine, I barely felt it at all. I got some really major like fatigue in my arm, though. Like, OK. And it lasted like five or six hours. I like I was like, oh, my arm can barely lift it. But other than that, to not get COVID, though, that's a pretty good price to pay. Yeah. Yeah. And it only lasted lasted a couple hours and that was it i played golf recently with uh some seniors some retired seniors a couple of days ago and they were talking about you know how they were trying to set up their appointments to go get it and i was and uh i was like are you guys

uh worried about any type of side effects and And one dude straight up said to me, I'm more worried about COVID than I am these damn side effects, man. Let's be honest. Like, you know, and when he said that, it was really clear for me. Yeah, absolutely. The last thing I want to get right now is COVID-19. Amen. All right, guys, in the interest of time, let's segue to your question.

Go ahead. It could be about anything. OK, so the question that I had was there's a moment in season five where J.D. has this realization that he's turning 30 and he's like living on that piece of land that he bought. The half acre yeah um and he feels like he has like nothing to show for all these years of um you know no house no girlfriend and um every people i feel like when i watch the show i was like you're a doctor like what what an accomplishment yeah but that's not said in the show so i guess my question is, have you ever felt like this? And how does it compare to now that you're older and past the age of 30? thought to myself, wow, I really have accomplished a lot of my goals, but am I sort of sitting back now and not being as hungry and proactive at trying to experience new things for no reason? I think I got to be 45 and was like, okay, I accomplished a lot. There's still a lot I want

to do, but I'm going to lean back in my chair a little bit. And then I called myself out on that. I don't want to be like that. I want to be someone who's, who's, you know, I don't really believe in an afterlife personally. So it's for me, it's like, this is it. What else, what else, what else are you going to try? What else are you going to do? You know, I was telling him, I'm telling my girlfriend, we're watching Top Chef obsessively. And I was thinking, God, you know, I've, I've participated, this is just an example. I participated in, in financing restaurants and, and, and that's been fun. I think one life goal would be like really be involved in creating a restaurant and like the decor and the menu and really, really,

really being involved, not just an investor. This is just a random example that came to my mind, but, but things that I, that I really want to accomplish because I feel like this is, this is it. You have to seize the day and make shit happen. Yeah. Yeah. I feel, I, you know, I feel like that, of course. I think we'd all be crazy to not feel like that. I think it's only natural. And I've accomplished a lot of my goals already, but I can micromanage that and turn those accomplishments into, but i didn't accomplish

this i can get even more i shouldn't say micromanage that i could get more specific about my goals and say i didn't count i didn't accomplish this and that's what i find myself doing a lot i don't dwell on nobody dwells on their success nobody thinks about how successful they are especially if you want to become more successful. You know, there are some people that are like, you know what? I did what I said I was going to do. I'm good. That's not me. I don't think that's anybody on this call right now, you know? And so I've accomplished a lot, but there's so much more that I want to do, especially when I get specific about it. Yeah. What about you, Heather?

Yeah, I feel like I still have a lot I want to do. I mean, I think it's really exciting now that people care more about women's stories. Like, I do feel like I kind of came up in a time where it was really male-dominated. So it's exciting now that people are like, oh, what are the voices of women? And what do women think? And Me Too, and that extending into, like, female writers and directors and stories with female protagonists. Like, I think that's really exciting.

Heather, are you going to direct? Yeah, I think I'm working on this movie. You should because I remember you directed a short, right? Yeah, no, I actually did direct a movie. It's called Half Magic. And I have a second movie that I now have a financier for. And oh my God, Donald, what are you doing? Oh, that's your wife.

Anyway, yes, I'm going to direct another movie called Chosen Family that my friend Andre Rellis is going to produce. And we're just actually casting it right now. I think we're going to shoot it in Montana. That's great. That's beautiful. I remember you directing a short. And yeah, I did a short too.

Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, it's so fun. Like what, you know, look what you did as well. Like just directing stuff. It's so fun to feel like you want to tell a story. For me, I feel like there should be more empowering stories for women out there and, um, stories from our point of view. Of course. And there's such a demand now. Um, and, and, and I, I noticed a real movement in the, in the business to hire more

women and to tell more female driven stories. Um, all right, gals, that's answer to question one. What about question two? Okay, so my second question is... Why doesn't Brittany Rogers ever talk? Is she shy? No, I just sound too Southern. That's cute, though. Southern accents are cute.

You got to hear his wife talk. My wife talk like, hey, y'all. Y'all, I'm from Waco. I'm from Texas, where we talk slow. A suburb of Waco. We went on a class trip to Waco. Actually, it's so southern down here that I have a friend that told me, she's from Alabama, she said, yeah said yeah one time in school they took us to

daga for a field trip and they took the school bus on the track wait what what do you mean they put the school bus on the track yeah where did where'd they take the school bus the trip to talladega talladega to daga they to Tadaga and they went on the track. I remember Casey was once talking about one of her relatives' house and how inexpensive it was. And she was like, y'all, and it was a nice house. It had a swing set in the seaman. You know they Southern, like I say July. You know it's a Southern person when they say July.

But I just love that one of the selling points for Casey about the house being nice was that the swing set was in the cement. Right. It wasn't one of those bullshit unattached ones. It wasn't the dirt. All over. Yeah. I think Southern accents are super cute, right? So cute.

Yeah. There you go, girls. That's from Heather Graham. We sound dumb as shit. No. No. I think it's cute. All right, go ahead.

Go ahead with your question. Okay. So my next question is, what moments in television or theater or movies where you felt like you could relate to those moments and where you said, yes, that's exactly how that feels. What were those moments for you? Well, at the end of La La Land, obviously. In our show, or you just mean in film and TV? Well, in general, I ask that question because, I mean, it's not just the finale.

It's that episode where you guys lose three patients. It just expresses the real version of death it doesn't sugarcoat it and that was a moment for me so i was just curious if you guys had moments like that that you were a part of or that you just witnessed as a regular movie viewer you know i know i know we have heather graham on the show but my first time seeing Swingers, I had just moved out to Los Angeles. And I really felt like that was how it felt to be in Los Angeles, in the industry and struggling as an actor. And so when I saw that movie and the ending after he gets the number, after he gets Heather's number and they're talking at the car and he gets to the house and she's already called him and everything like that. I just thought this is,

the next day she's called him. I just thought, I was like, this is perfect. This is exactly what it feels like to be in this moment right now. Like when, when, when, when Favreau's buddy says to him, we made it, we're here. You know what I mean? We're not in New York anymore. That's the success story right there. That felt real to me. You know, it's funny. I totally forgot, um, that Heather is the dreamy girl at the end of swingers to Heather. We'd love that movie. We talk about the movie all the time. That's cool. Yeah. Well, you know, they made that movie for talk about the movie all the time that's cool yeah well you know they made that movie for like 250 000 and that we shot on a lot of locations they didn't like they didn't have them shut for the the shoot because we didn't have enough money so it was open and there were all

these people in the bar just regular people and we just they had a camera it was very um gorilla yeah it was so great one of them yeah amazing yeah and donald's right if you want to if you're curious to know at least a certain time, I mean, what it was like to come out and be a struggling actor in LA, I think it's probably, it's probably all, it probably all still holds up.

It's just that it was. Nineties. Right. Like nobody has the, that what was the shit that we used to put on our cars to stop people from stealing it. Oh, the club.

The club. We all got low Jack now. All right. Let's move on to Fix Your Life. Are you ready? Yeah, I'm ready. It's time to fix your life. Now, listen, not only do we have Heather Graham here because she's a great actress, but she's also very smart and very into therapy and new age stuff

she's gonna really lead the charge here with with your question so you're getting a real pro okay um i guess my fix my life would be i was supposed to come on the podcast originally for the turk and carla wedding episode. What happened? Well, my fiance of five years messed up. There was a little bit of double dipping.

P.O. Oh my god. You found out that he was unfaithful to you yes the day before christmas eve oh oh that sucks so after you killed him you need us to we need you need us to help you bury the body is that what's up no no wait wait finish what happened what happened you were going to come on the show and you had to cancel because this is some serious drama so yeah so i had to you know go through all of that of canceling the wedding. And I'm in the process of still moving out.

And, yeah. So it's – is he frozen like that? No. I'm sorry. I mean, we're trying to be funny, but I'm so sorry for you. That's fucking horrible. I'm so sorry that that happened to you. It sucks.

I guess that's where my first question came from is just like, you know, where do I go from here? Like five years of my life. Well, listen. Okay, wait. I have a good one. Go, Heather. Go. Heather Graham.

Rejection is God's protection. Maybe he's dodged a bullet. I mean, you could have married him. Let me tell you something. No, I'm just saying. If he's going to cheat on you while you're fucking engaged before the wedding, you think that's not going to happen over and over and over again? Fuck that guy. No, better to find out now before you've married engaged before the wedding? You think that's not going to happen over and over and over again? Fuck that guy. No, better to find out now before you've

married him, you know? Whatever. That's what she said. I said, you're not Heather Graham. No, but it's funny because in the episode, actually it's the second episode of season four, you know, everyone's giving Sarah's

character advice, but she won't listen to anyone but she listens to me yeah it's good carla gets mad about it yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no i know you deserve to be happy sorry go to listen when when someone shows you who they are believe them and if you think that guy was not gonna to do that over and over again, if he's doing that before the wedding, like leading up to the wedding. Yeah. I mean, that is the ultimate example of bullet dodged. Joelle, come on. You're another strong female voice.

Yeah. No. First of all, screw that guy for life. Like, what is wrong with you? So I don't ever understand. Like, if you don't want to do this, like, you could just be honest about it. I don't like people wasting my time um as i'm sure you feel so i'm glad you're like out of that space i'm glad you have such a good friend as britney britney we were because we were going to try to

coordinate you know alex like getting married like on the same day we talked about having like randall coming and officiating and so like and she planned a lot of this for her fiance and so it's like it's clear to me alex that you have like so much love to give and that you like truly care. So I would say like, take the time to heal from this because you've got to mourn the relationship like that. It's a big loss. But once you're over that, once you've put that in its place and gotten on with it, I

like you have like, it's almost a gift. You've been given like a whole new opportunity to evaluate like what's really important to you so that the next time you're ready to like give your heart to someone, you're going to be like, I know exactly what I'm looking for and what I'm not. And you're going to be just so ready for that experience. Five years is a really, really long time to be with somebody. How did you find out by the way?

Um, I found him at her apartment. You walked in on them? Did you notice already? I pulled up on them. I saw him walking out of her apartment. It was kind of like a movie. Did you already know? Did you already have a clue that this was going on?

Or was this something that caught you totally off guard? There were signs. I just didn't want to see them. I found her. It was the Snapchat. And I know how Donald feels about Snapchat. It was the Snapchat that I he was on her Snapchat, but there was no conversation that I could read. I pulled, I pulled, I went left work early, came home. His car wasn't there. It was actually my car. My car wasn't there at three o'clock in the morning. Cause I work night shift. So I just kind of drove to the last place that he had pinged on his phone.

And my car was out there and I saw him walking out of her apartment. Did you confront him right there oh yeah oh yeah oh my god did he deny it or did he admit it um i mean he didn't deny i was helping her with the laundry at three o'clock in the morning actually he was doing he was doing what donald loves which is uh god's lettuce yeah so that's what he originally told me that that was the intention but yeah no he had her hair on his shoulder oh my god i'm so sorry i'm sorry to hear this you deserve you deserve much better well thank you that means so much how old are you um i'm 26 oh yeah you're young. You have a lot of time.

Yeah. What was you doing getting married anyway, dude, for five years? I know, come on, 26. Were you at 21 when you got engaged? What are you doing? You need to get out there. No, I wasn't 21 when we got engaged. I was 21 when we started dating. I know, but you've been with that guy and faithful and committed for

five years. Yep. And he went and did you dirty, so now you're going to go live your best life. I'm going to tell you how you do it. Only fans. No, don't. The only way to do it. I'm too lucky for that. What does that mean?

It's the only way to do it. No, it's a site, Heather, where women go and shake their booties. Where they do the busted challenge a lot. You know what? You should get clear. Get clear. Get clear on what you want and go after what you want and who cares about someone who's not what you want right so go after what you want yeah yeah exactly i agree with heather i mean i i think that you're gonna find someone who's gonna love you and be faithful to you and uh and not

fucking cheat on you that's horrible plus i think it I think you change a lot. In the late 20s, you go through a lot, and by the time you're in your 28, 29, you may be attracted to a totally different guy than you liked when you were 20. I don't think I'll be attracted to cheaters. No. You want someone...

I got to tell you, I'm so upset. You seem like such a nice person person and you deserve so much better. And you're going to have so much fun. Once this fucking pandemic is over, you're going to think about all the fun you're going to have dating. In the meantime. There's people dating now. I want you to know.

Really? Have you been on dates, Heather? No, but I have some friends that have gone on some well, I'm in a walking coffee date. I know people that are dating. I dipped my toe in the dating pool and I'm already exhausted. Oh, really? Just from dipping your toe?

Just from dipping? I've never had a toe dipped in me, but I'd like to try it. Inappropriately, I would let Flo dip a toe in me. that oh my god look maybe okay wait maybe you're going after the wrong gender because it sounds like you're pretty excited by the ladies yeah maybe you want to try to dabble with the ladies um yeah i i have dabbled before okay well it might be time to redabble we lost lost Joelle. She'd be weighing in on this conversation heavily. I am here. Women are better. Women are better. You just realized maybe you need to go for the ladies instead, right?

Yeah. Yeah. Definitely going to have to read. Maybe the universe gave you this opportunity because you didn't realize that you weren't done having fun with gals and now you can go gal crazy for a while. Wait, wait. I have something great to say. have you read this book it's called untamed by glennon doyle this book is amazing it's about this woman she was married and she's an inspirational writer and then she realized she was in love with a woman and she left her husband and like she fell in love with this woman and she was so happy and it's all about her like leaving her marriage and going through all this you might find it inspiring yeah read. Read Untamed. Yeah.

By Heather Graham. No. It's like a bestseller. It's like a New York Times bestseller. It's really good. Listen, Heather has to get out of here, and we have to get out of here. But the good news is, ladies, because you're so charming, and because you're so cool, and because you had a shitty thing happen to you, we're going to do only we can do it, fake doctors, real friends,

and that is to gift you a giant pallet of GT's kombucha. Are you excited? Yes. Yeah, you're going to hear it. Wait, I want one. I love GT's kombucha. We'll get you one too, Heather. We'll get you one too, Heather.

There you go. Yeah, GT's kombucha is sending you a giant pallet of kombucha that you will love. Joelle's going to drop it off herself. Can Brittany request what flavor she wants? Because there's a lot of flavors. Yeah, well, why don't you put out – ginger is my favorite. I don't know what you like, Heather, but I like ginger.

Ginger berry. Oh, ginger. Ginger aid is the best. What's your favorite, Heather? Ginger aid. Yeah. And Trilogy. Ginger aid, ginger berry.

I like Trilogy too. And Trilogy. Trilogy is good also. There you go. We'll make sure you get all these flavors. And Brittany and Alex, thank you so much. And we're so sorry that happened to you. We'll hope you'll check in with us.

Will you email Joelle when you finally are seeing someone you like? We'll have you back on and we can talk with you and your new love. Okay. We're going to rub it in your ex's face because we're going to have you on with your new partner. Good. All right, guys. Thank you so much for coming on.

Thank you. Bye guys. All right. Well, Heather, thank you so much for coming on. I hope you had a fun time. It was so fun hanging out with you virtually.

It's so nice. Thanks. And it was great. Cause you've done a bunch of these and I know people are going to want, they're going to, I know what's going to happen. This is going to air. They're going to flood our – More Heather Graham. They're going to flood our social media with more Heather.

So please come on. More HG. More HG. It was so fun. And thank you. And thank you, all you listeners, for tuning in. And Donald, I'm glad we're friends again. You know, I never doubted us being friends.

I knew that right after you hung up, I was like, he's going to need a minute. By the way, I got to thank you because I put all that time and adrenaline into cleaning my office. It's beautiful. I have a spotless, clean office. Wait, Donald, your closet looks really good, too. Like, you've got a very organized closet. I'm impressed. This is my wife's side.

Oh. By the way, we should send Heather a onesie. Heather, would you wear a onesie? Show her the onesie, Donald. Would you wear this? I want the kombucha, man. I mean, ooh, that's cute. Okay, sure. Why not? I feel like if you see who's on the onesie, look real close. No, I can't

see it. I don't want to take it down. Is it Scrubs? No, it's me and No. Oh, my God. It's just us two. Heather, I feel like if you took an Instagram picture in our onesie, we'd sell a bunch. If you don't mind. Okay. Send me a onesie. Sure.

I will. We have some – oh, you know what's going to be – you know what's in the store? It should be up as we speak. What? So many people in hospitals told us that we should make fake doctors real friends badge pulls, which I didn't even know was a thing. But it's a thing if you work in a hospital, you constantly are having to swipe your ID. And so it has a retractable thing for your badge. So for all of those people,

you glorious people who asked for it, they are officially up in the store. Fake doctors, real friends, badge pulls. If you work in a hospital, represent the show, represent the posse, the community, and they're up there on the merch site. Joelle, what do we tell them? How do we get to the merch site? We'll put the link up in the notes. It's Cotton Bureau, but I will also put a link in the notes. You can also just go to CottonBureau.com and search for Fake Doctors Real Friends. Donald, anything you want to say to the people?

Go get you one. Yeah, we love y'all. And we're really happy that we're beginning season four. We've come a long way, but we still got a long way to go. See you next time. We love you all. Here we go. 5, 6, 7, 8. We made about a bunch of docs and nurses and a janitor who loved to hate.

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