Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - 403: My New Game

Episode Date: February 4, 2021

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I need to apologize to you guys because I said 1.15 and I am now eight minutes, nine minutes late. That is my, I apologize. I'm afraid to say anything. You don't have to say anything. I'm apologizing to you and I'm apologizing to the fans. This shit got on the road a little late. That being said, a lot of news is happening between now and 1 o'clock.

Jeff Bezos has now stepped down as CEO of Amazon. Yeah. Why are you so excited about that? How does that affect us in any way? Because there's a job opening opening and it could be me i don't know if they're this is america jack i don't know if they're hiring um actors for the position but you could try audition maybe set a self-tape listen i've seen ted talk all ted talk is is somebody getting up on stage and convincing you that they are on point with their stuff i love how you struggled for the sentence on point with their stuff with their stuff

that's like that what's his name the simple guy in the simpsons when he goes lisa do you like stuff? Ralph Wiggum. That's when Ralph Wiggum's trying to flirt with Lisa. Do you like stuff? But I know what it is. I know how to do that. If somebody writes it for me, I got you. I'm an actor.

That's what I do. I have a theory that running Amazon may be a bit out of your skill set. I don't know. I didn't say I wanted to run Amazon. I want to be the face of Amazon. How about that? That's what I want. I want to be the face of Amazon. When you think of toys and packages and deliveries and a bunch of jobs for Americans,

I want you to think of me. Okay. Okay. Maybe they'll put your face on the box if you get the job. That's branding. Speaking of your face on things, we should talk about this awesome new merch that's in the merch shop for everybody.

Hi, everybody. Welcome. Good to see you, or at least pretend to see you. We have these things. They're called badge pulls. If you work in a hospital or if you work somewhere where you have to wear a badge and then you have to reach down and put it on some sensor to open a door well we have solved it for you we have really dope badge pulls from fake they are really cool i got mine today i i i was uh kind of poo-pooing on the idea of the badge pull, but it's actually real cool.

Even if you don't have a badge that you need to pull on, you can put your keys on it. Right. It's almost like a joke. I got to say, and I'm not just saying this because we made them. It's a nice fidget toy. You know how you used to have the fidget toys? Yeah. I have it on my desk, and I've been fidgeting with it all day. Okay, but you got to put it down. We're doing a podcast.

I know. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. It's like when I ate and people got all upset. And then the other thing we have just in time for Valentine's Day are our Turk and JD key chains that are broken hearts. So your lover or your friend gets the half of the heart that's JD or Turk, and you get the other one. And then when together, you can press them up against each other and go, eagle. I like that. There you go. So you go to CottonBureau.com. That's where we have our merch.

You just search for Fake Doctors Real Friends, and it'll bring you to our merch page. We know you guys like merch because you seem to buy a lot of it and we have new stuff for Valentine's Day. You know what? I love the locket because you know what it reminds me of? What? Betcha he reads,

betcha she sews. Maybe she's made me a closet of clothes. Maybe they're strict. Why shouldn't they be? Their one mistake was given of me. Now wait, before you go on,

before you go on, I want the audience to know that if you know what that is, you either are gay or love musicals. Or both. As is my case. Here we go. So maybe now there's prayer.

Go ahead. The last one of its kind. Won't you please come get your baby let him have it hit that note girl baby little run

give me a little run girl yeah I don't know if we can beat that intro let's get into it 5, 6, seven, eight. We're going to do a shorter show today. You know why? Why?

Because I have been affected by negative comments on my Instagram. What happened? So what happened? It's because of GT, isn't it? I had people saying the GT's thing was boring. I had people saying they didn't want to hear about the stock market. And A, I'm giving up social media because I'm so fucking sick of social media. And maybe I'm not taking my criticism well today. But we're going to give the people what they want.

How many people said the GT? We're going to go right to the show. How many people said it was boring? And how many people said they didn't want to hear about the stock market? I stopped reading it but there were probably like four um stopped doing a gt's kombucha ad and like maybe three don't talk about the stock market so maybe seven people piss me off really yeah out of out of out of over a million i i love the fact that you got to take a break. If anything, now's the time to take a break.

Well, I am taking a Twitter break. I got to tell you. You know that documentary? Did you guys watch the documentary? What's it called? The Social Dilemma? Is that what it's called? Social Dilemma.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you haven't seen that and you're listening to this, please check it out. It's on – was it on Netflix? Yeah, it was on Netflix. It's really mind-blowing about – and Donald, I know you watched it, just about how these apps were designed to be addictive. And I am fully been addicted to Twitter. I'm so addicted. Dude, I'm so addicted I'm now paying money on apps now.

It's so bad because – You're buying shit? Buying shit on apps. Like there will be video games and I'm like, I really need this power up though. Like there'll be video games and I'm like, I really need this power up though. But I'm talking about like, I'm talking about through all of this insane news cycle between Trump and the pandemic and everything else. I have been addicted to Twitter. I just read news nonstop like a drug.

Just what happened this second? What happened this second? And then I watched the documentary and I laughed at myself. I'm going, it's just no different than any other addiction. I'm fully addicted to this app. And the app is so negative and cynical and just a rain cloud, I find, that I'm then filling my brain with just fucking a fire hose of negativity. And I would like to stop that. Everybody seems to think that their information is the correct information where they're getting their information is the,

uh, by it's the information of the gods. It seems like my information is so perfect and, and so on point with what i which what with what triggers me that i can't stop looking at my social media and phones you know what i mean so my phone so whatever whatever i started whatever algorithm i created it's so perfect for me now that it's like like you're talking like I wake up in the morning, I grab my phone, I get on the toilet, I grab my phone. You know what I mean? Like, it's like,

it's crazy. And that's what, and that's what social media is. It's made to trigger you to, because it sees what you, what you, what you keep tapping on. And now you're going to get flooded with that. Of course. What I learned on the documentary was that even when you're on Instagram, even when you're scrolling by things and let's say you slow down, because for me, it's like a camera gadget, let's say, because that's what my whole feed is like puppies and camera gadgets. But like you slow down, it's registering, oh, even before you clicked on it, it knows that you slowed down around the area of that camera gadget. And so now it's like, you know, they do it great in that documentary.

They show you like, okay, he's slowing down for the camera gadget. Now let's send him a push notification for, you know. And it's so true. Now Instagram has really figured out their algorithm how to sell shit to me because everything I pass that's an ad, I'm like, oh, yeah, they're right. I do kind of want that. But I'm not even – Instagram is the next step. I'm starting – because that's at least pictures. I'm starting with taking a Twitter break just because I think it's – I just don't think all that negativity is good for my brain personally.

But that's where everybody gets their news from now. I know. I got to find out. I'm trying other sources for news. I get taking a break. I think Twitter was like, I got to take a break from this. You know what I mean? It's not just the Trump talk. It's taken a break. You know, I think Twitter was like, I gotta take a break from this. It's not just the Trump talk. It's just like anything.

The whole game of Twitter is who can be more snarky and quippy about any topic. And that's fine. I participated and I have a lot of followers over there and I'm sure that I'll fucking fall off the wagon and be back soon. All you people who follow me that's what i was about to

say at the end of the day at the end of the day you know why you have twitter and you know why you have well i'll go back to promote my wares i love i love it is an amazing tool for me to say hey guys i have this thing coming out and i and and i do it for the podcast i do it for the projects i have and that's amazing and but i just just find, I just kind of like that documentary has been sitting with me like over my shoulder. And I've been thinking about it. I recently have a friend who's, who's taking a February off from booze. And I was thinking to myself, I've taken alcohol breaks a bunch too, but I thought to myself, you know what? I want to take a, I'm going to, I'm going to be inspired by my friend and take a Twitter break. Anyway, I do.

Happy Black History Month, buddy. Happy Black History Month to you, my African-American friend. No doubt. Did you watch the show I told you all to watch in and of itself? You didn't watch it. You guys did. But I know about it. I know about the guy, and I'm not going to pretend that I did watch it, but I know about the guy through Neil Patrick Harris,

who is a big time... He's into magic, he's into illusions and all that stuff. And we were filming a Cigna commercial together, and he was telling me about this guy on Broadway who he went to see and he had never seen

any... He had never seen the tricks like any of these tricks well the thing with magicians is like they all know each you know for the most part i don't know if you've ever seen the movie the prestige yeah i love the prestige right one of my favorite movies everybody but everybody knows you know magicians usually know the ins and outs of magic it's rare that somebody comes along and makes the magicians and the illusionists go how the hell did he do that do you ever watch that show um do you ever watch that show um fool us um with penn and teller oh yeah that show was fun it's a really great show donald you might like it we're we're penn and teller who are obviously the pretty darn dialed in magicians

who know anything and everything, they have a magician on and the magician does a trick and then they confer. And if they can figure out how the magician did it, then you didn't win. And if you fool them, then you get to open for them in Vegas.

That's awesome. And it's really cool because they do it in a really clever way where they don't want to obviously, if they know how we did it, they don't want to ruin it for everyone. So they'll sort of speak in like magician jargon. They'll be like, oh, I'm curious if you've ever learned the Sailor Man switch. And the guy will kind of smile and they'll be like, yeah, you got it. So they won't like ruin the trick for everyone, but they'll let the magician know that they figured it out. They figured it out.

You know, they taught me my first magic trick. Penn and Teller did, back when I was in junior high school, and I was doing a television special with Marlo Thomas called Free to Be a Family. And we got to meet a bunch of people, and we built a space bridge to Russia. And it was the first time that what we're doing right now, a Zoom call was done. This was back when I was in junior high school. Anyway, Free to Be a Family. It was the sequel to Free to Be you and me yeah free to be you and me right and so uh and in it penn and teller comes and they teach the kids of america how to do a magic trick and it was the how to make the handkerchief disappear in your hand trick

let me tell you something man first of all what amazing what amazing uh what an amazing act they had because i really thought that dude was mute up until up until he taught us the trick you know what i mean i think he you know what's funny i once saw their off when i was a child my dad took me to their first off-broadway show and it was weird because he he i don't think he was mute like when he wasn't on stage like they would do a thing where at intermission they would chat outside with people and i think he was out there talking i don't know i think his shtick is he only does it when he's quote in character got it but he that i mean i used to they were so funny to me and they were so different and i And I love that one of the guys had his nails painted.

One of his nails was painted. I thought that was really cool. You know what I mean? Well, anyway, I got to tell you, Donald, please, and listeners, please check out. Probably the most highly recommended thing I'm going to give you since we've been doing this podcast. It's called In and Of Itself. It's on Hulu. It is a taped performance of an off-Broadway one-man show. And he is an illusionist,

and there are illusions, but he also is a genius storyteller, and he weaves these beautiful stories around the illusions. And also, without spoiling anything, the editor, Frank Oz directed it, by the way. Maybe that'll get you to watch way. Maybe that'll get you to watch it. Maybe that'll get you to watch it. I love, you know how I love Frank Oz. Well, I, maybe, listen, I was trying to think of a Star Wars connection for you, and I found one. Frank Oz directed it.

I know Frank Oz was Yoda and everything like that, but it's not that. I once ran up on Frank Oz and was like, this is angel dust. It's PCP. You have any idea what this does to kids? I didn't know that was Frank Oz. Yeah. And he looked at me like I was crazy. Yeah, he looked at me like I was crazy.

And I was like, do you remember that line? He's like, yeah, I remember that line. But dude, you're blowing my mind. And I was like, good. I'm glad I'm blowing your mind. That's cool. Anyway, last thing I'll say about it is that Frank Oz directed it in such a cool way

that they cut between multiple performances. And it's a really clever way to present the material. And it's a little bit slow-paced at first, so have patience. Put your phone away. I'm telling you, it is – I think it's one of the most beautiful things I've seen in a long time. I could not agree more. When was the play – when was the show – They did like over 500 performance of it.

I'm assuming – it's so genius. I'm assuming that the pandemic must have been the thing that closed it because I don't know how this would ever close. Yeah, probably. I know my family saw it live two years ago. I wish I'd seen it live. It really makes you miss live theater. It's so good. Oh, totally.

Let's segue into the show, Donald, because some people out there like us to do less of a shoot the shit session. And we're going to give them a special episode today. Oh, really? So we're going to do what the seven haters want? Yeah, today we're going to give the seven haters what they want. All right, this is for the seven haters. Actually, the seven haters probably would like none of that 16 minutes of talk we just did. Okay, well, from here on out, this is for you seven haters out there.

Yeah, here's one for you seven haters. All right, here we go. I'm not even going to time you because that might slow down the show for the seven ass heads. There we go. I still want my beat, though. I still want that beat. By the way, Daniel, that new beat you found is fire. He's got more.

I made it. He's a DJ, dude. Thank you. No, I know you're a DJ, and I know you're good at that, but I'm giving you affirmation. I appreciate that. Thank you. You should find a way to put I appreciate that on all your beats from here on out.

I appreciate that. Hey, Daniel, I have a question for you. Like DJ Khaled's another out. I appreciate it. Hey, Daniel, I have a question for you. Like DJ Khaled's another one. I appreciate that. Daniel, you know how DJs have, or radio DJs have the pad they can hit, and it'll be like 16 phrases, whatever they want. Like I could hit it and it'll be Donald making some,

can I have one of those for our show? Anybody can have one. No, I want one. And I want it to somehow go into your live recording of the show so I can always hit it. Yes, Donald, yes. This is dangerous.

This is so dangerous. I know Donald's going to ask for one too. Do you want me to turn the key? I'm not going to do it. I'll turn my key. I'll turn that key for you, but only one thing. I can't abuse it.

I can't abuse it. You cannot abuse it. If you abuse it, that shit is out the window. I thought you were going to say that you wanted one too, and I knew that would be a bad idea. No, no, no, no. I'd be doing beats in the middle of the fucking podcast. No, what I want to do is I want to do what they do on Howard Stern,

which is they have like, you know, well, they have a zillion at this point, but we would have like ten or so catchphrase noises and sounds, and we could hit it, and I could hit it at a strategic moment. And we're only doing that for the haters, though. Danil, why do you look like you abhor this idea? I love the idea. I just know that once we get into the nitty-gritty of actually getting it done,

it might not be such a popular idea anymore. I know people will be sick of me hitting the button, but I think we should try it for a few episodes. Great. Well, we'll talk about it after the show. Well, can I just put a line into my H6 zoom recorder?

But if you want us to hear it, it's a different process. you're going to have to have two lines. You can figure it out. This is your specialty. You build computers. I know how to, I do indeed know how to do it.

It's just going to take a lot of effort on your part, Zach. I'm just letting you know. You're going to have to have the software on your computer. That's all I'm saying. I just think what's going to happen is I'm going to do it for two episodes, and then everyone, including my seven haters, are going to fucking hate it. Well, we're doing this for the seven haters right now. They asked for it.

You're right. You know what, Donald? You seven haters are getting a shorter preamble to the Scrubs recap, but in exchange, I'm getting a noise machine. We'll work it out. We'll work it out. All right, Donald, go with your recap. Here we go. Yeah, go. Cox and Jordan are still married.

Turk's jealous of the Todd. Elliot's the chief, and JD's the co-chief. Karma is the ultimate ass kicker. The way it comes back around is very reminiscent of a circle. That is all. Wow. Brief today. Oh, wow.

All right. Karma is reminiscent. Well, you said they wanted it brief. Well, I don't know if the seven haters said to shorten your summary. Well, they wanted it shorter. They didn't want any of the other stuff. You know what? You know what?

Since they made us cut fun, they get a shorter fucking summary. Shorter fucking They didn't want any of the other stuff. You know what? Since they made us cut fun, they get a shorter fucking summary. Shorter fucking summaries. This is what you get for hating. This is what you get for hating. Oh boy. I think like 1.4 million people follow me on Instagram. Those seven people ruined it for everybody.

Oh boy. All right, Donald, I agree. Some people would say just stop reading your comments, but I agree with you. I'm making fun of myself, and I always give you shit when someone riles you up. I'm like, so one person out of that many fucked you up? How about Garrett Donovan as Meth Guy? Very funny.

And looking very young and svelte. I like the haircut. I haven't seen Garrett with a haircut like that in since this, I guess. Do you think he's gone bald, Garrett? No, no, I think he has. I think he had. Oh, sorry. We should tell everyone who he is. Garrett Donovan is one of our very funny writers on the show. He was a partner, writing partners with Neil Goldman, and together they were a very funny writing team. And that's him in the beginning

of this episode playing a politician who's on meth who's handcuffed to the bench. He can't wave his hand to go, hey,

because he's handcuffed. But he's on meth. This episode was funny. I laughed a lot. I laughed a couple of times actually. Once again, Rob Macchio of times, actually. Yeah. Once again, Rob Macchio steals the show in this episode. Once again, Rob Macchio

steals the show. I mean, you see his whole package. The funny thing about a banana hammock is it's just cock and balls wrapped in a little cover. But you're just looking at the whole thing. Well, you can't see it, but yeah.

I mean, you can't see the outline of the trunk, but you see the mass. Yeah, you see mass. You see width. Yes. You can tell that Rob is not small. Length. Oy, oy, oy. No, I think he's Italian.

No, he's Italian, but we should ask, I know we did ask him on the show, but I'd like to ask him. What do we ask? How do I phrase it? Go ahead. Does he have a giant cock? I'm wondering also. Does he have a giant cock?

Because I don't know what's creating such a mass. I know if you tuck balls and shaft into a tiny thing, it looks good. But his looks particularly girthy. Massive, yeah. Massive. By the way, penis aside, his body looks amazing. Ripped.

He's ripped. It only makes sense that after he pulls his heart out. Yes, but wait, before you get to that so he's so he thinks he's he thinks he thinks there's a calendar being shot outside that's what you told them right yes there's surveyors there's there's surveyors that are surveying something with their surveying equipment and and don and turk wants to steal the surgery that he's supposed to do so he tells them that they're out there shooting the Sacred Heart calendar and he's out there

and he's fully oiled up and he looks slim and really great. He goes, this is June. And then he turns around and sticks his ass out and he goes, here's a little peek at July. That's funny yeah yeah yeah

I forgot though that Rob looked so good yeah Rob is freaking you know when you look back at all of this I remember Rob being like I can't eat that

because it'll be you know you know 20 minutes on a you know 3 minutes on a lips is 30 years on the hips he would say shit like that you know, 20 minutes on a, you know, three minutes on the lips is 30 years on the hips. He would say shit like that.

You know what I mean? Right. And if you really... He looks like he worked out consistently and starved himself, but he's still big, and you know what I mean? He still, you know, like, has a big waist and still looks strong,

but he's slim and fit like and i don't know how old he was at the time but well done rob yeah he looks great he did a good job i mean that's a lot of pressure to be in that tiny amount of clothing on national and it is crazy when you think about it you know i've said this before but when we moved to abc from nbc to abc abc said we couldn't show rob and his banana hammock anymore. And it is pretty crazy when you look at it. I mean, I know you could say, how is it different from a woman in a bikini? But it is bizarre to see someone that naked on what was network TV.

I mean, you can see that. A male that naked on network TV is a little bizarre. Because it's not that he's in his underwear. It's that we're not highlighting that. We're highlighting shaft, balls, and all of that. Like, that's what the shot is highlighting. And it's covered in a fire material. It's like fire-covered balls and shafts all molded into it.

It's made to make you not. Nobody's looking at Rob Machio in this shaft. You're meant to look at shaft and balls. Yes, absolutely. All rolled into a tight ball. That's enough. Just stop talking about your willies. Anyhoo.

How funny. Speaking of homosexuality, how funny was that? Oh, great line. When Kelsey goes, there were nights in the service when it didn't seem too far-fetched. Perry, that shit was hilarious. Perry, even if I went that way, and believe me, there were nights in the service where it didn't seem that was far-fetched. Ted isn't my type. Yeah.

And then Ted goes, I beg to differ. I've seen Enid. Oh. There were nights in the service where it didn't seem all that far-fetched. So Jordan and Cox are still married because of a Ted made a paperwork error.

Right, and he's still married to his ex-wife who is sleeping with his brother. Right, because his brother has a hairpiece. Right. But Kelso goes, sleeping with his brother right because his brother has a hairpiece right and um but kelso kelso goes mazel tobs all around ken winningham directed this did we say that no ken winningham directed this and we like ken winningham a lot he's a very talented uh director and um it was uh written by gabrielle allen let's talk about You've Been Graveled, Donald,

because this is the introduction. There's a few things here that are Scrubs runners that are introduced here. One of them is the You've Been Graveled game. Does this come back? I forgot. I don't know that it comes back, but I will say this.

This was one of those things where Turk and JD are really pushing hard for this game to work. Yeah. And if it does come back, I don't know if the two of them can be the ones that gravel the next person. Like, it would have to be somebody like Molly. I think maybe Molly gravels somebody. I think it does come back. Should we ask Trevor Wickey?

We haven't asked him anything in a while, and he's got the signed Funko Pops. Let's get it. Okay. We haven't asked him anything in a while, and he's got the signed Funko Pops. Let's get it. Okay, Trevor, in this episode, we learn that JD and Turk are trying to get the game Gravel. You've been Graveled to catch on. Does this come back in future episodes? I don't remember if this is the only episode where people are Graveled. Happy season four, Donald, Zach, Joel, and Daniel. JD and Turk have a lot of fun games.

My personal favorite is coming up in a few episodes in My Roommates. But gravel is only mentioned in this episode, My New Game. But if you're looking for more gravel-themed hijinks, there's a similar prank in my finale where Dr. Kelso and Donnie replace Ted's coffee with dirt.

Thanks, Trevor. That and then, okay, so that shit was hilarious when Turk finally realizes that JD was the one that graveled him and uh he says to JD hey man

no Turk says I mean JD says to Turk well what about putty pants no play-doh pants yeah what about play-Doh pants? What the fuck is that game? And then, I know, and then Turk says, well, Play-Doh pants became all about the money.

Yeah, what the hell is that backstory? There's no backstory. It was just something that we made up right then. There's two moments in this episode that are like, have no, like so random and then not explained. This is one of them. We don't know anything about what Play-Doh Pants is or why it became all about the money,

and we have no idea what that game is. And the other – at the end of the episode in the baseball – we're at the baseball field. Why am I tackled for no reason? No reason whatsoever. I'm just tackled. No reason whatsoever. And the guy doesn't even say sorry, and you don't address it.

It just happens. And the guy throws the baseball. He almost hits me in the face with the baseball, and I don't move. It's like, wait, this is weird. And then, Ted, you owe me money, which I remember you wrote. You wrote that. I remember that. I remember that.

That shit's funny. I can't believe you remember that. I was so proud of that. That was such a great joke because, one, it closes the show, but it was such a great joke because it, one, it closes the show, but it was such a, I remember thinking, I remember thinking that is, that reminds me of like my cousin when he gets drunk and fucking, that is exactly what he would say, some dumb shit like that. You owe me money right before he passed out. And you know what it really reminds me of though? What? It reminds me of a certain night

that you and i went out no i didn't go out you were at home did we go out that night i've got more money than you i've got more money than you i've got more money than all of you and then passed out right on his face yeah donald and I knew someone who got so hammered. And we were all back at my house hanging out. And he was so embarrassingly drunk that he was like, and I've got more money than you. And I've got more money than you. And he's like pointing at us. And then like one Mississippi, two Mississippi, three Mississippi collapsed. Passes out.

That's how he went out. That's how he went out. That's how he went out. He passes out with his ass. Not only does he pass out, he passes out with his ass up in the air. And then Josh goes, I wonder what he's dreaming about. And Zach goes, probably all of his money. I know. Oh, it's so awkward.

But yeah, I don't know why. For me, it was so fun on occasion when I would come up with a line on set for one of those guys like Sam. And just like, oh, my God, this would be a funny thing for Ted to say before he passed out. And then Sam does it and does it so funny. I just remember you and I were belly laughing. It was so funny. Laughing so hard. You owe me money. I were belly laughing. It was so funny. Laughing so hard. You owe me

money. I remember thinking that was such a genius joke too. Like, wow, Zach fucking wrote a, that's a great, that is That's the first time? Season four? It's the first time you thought I wrote a funny joke? Well, everything else was kind of like a button. This is like, this was a joke that

went on from him pouring the alcohol and the thing and now he's drunk. He drank the booze so fast. Because literally, it's like a minute after we see him pouring it. He says something like, I go, thirsty, Ted? He goes, it makes the tears taste less bitter. Right.

And then he's drunk. You owe me money. He gets drunk quick. Really fast. Maybe Ted's not much of a drinker, but he really pounds down that fucking vodka. Hey, I laughed a lot when I'm walking down the street. This is the episode, if you haven't watched it, where JD's obsessed with being co-chief. And he wants to be the real, just regular chief.

And he has his business cards. And he goes, business cards and he goes, I'm trying not to make it about me, you know, unless there's someone I could doink as he's handing out his business cards. As he hands his business card to the hot blonde chick as she was going. This is the first time I think that we hear

the scooter referred to as Sasha. No. No. Is it? Yeah, I think so because this is before to sasha i guess that's in your show right um i forgot where sasha gets you didn't call by the way my episode's coming up the one that i directed that you all know is the best episode in scrubs history it's coming up very soon i just looked at the majiggy and it says, uh, four Oh eight. I always thought for some reason it was fifth season,

but it's not. It's the eighth episode of season four. Well, I haven't seen it. So it has to be our little, our little, our little spreadsheet that Joelle made says Zach Braff director. Are you a good surgeon?

By the way? I don't, I don't know that Turk is a good surgeon. I wrote down today. I wrote down this episode. Is Turk a good surgeon? I don't know. It doesn a good surgeon, by the way. I don't know that Turk is a good surgeon. I wrote down today, I wrote down in this episode, is Turk a good surgeon? I don't know that he is. Because it doesn't seem like you're great. No, I think he's a good, okay, I don't know that he's a good surgeon.

I'll say that. I do know that Todd's a better surgeon. Todd is probably the best surgeon in the, he is the best surgeon in the hospital. Right. And Turk is very, very, very jealous of it right but i mean you literally sew your gown to the patient in this episode it's happened before i'm sure i'm sure it's happened before to people you know nobody's perfect i heard of a story of a of some some surgeon had um they were cutting some tube and they had like the covering down on the person's body and they were cutting the tube on the cloth or whatever it is that covers the person's body.

And when they were cleaning up, they saw that the knife had gone through to the person's leg. That sounds horrible, man. I'm sure shit like that happens all the time and then you know they're like um yeah hey for free we uh took a little benign tumor out of your leg all good god oh they lied no i don't know that that's the end of the story i'm saying i wonder if that's what people do they're like, we saw something on your leg that was a little sketchy, so don't worry, for free we took it out. Didn't we have a moral episode,

one of those episodes where Turk made a mistake and then went and told the... Yeah, we just passed that. Yeah, the piano kid. The piano kid. You were like, yeah. And when we were recording that,

I was like, I don't know if they just go and admit that they fucked up like that. But what do I know? Is the caller here? Joel, let's invite the person in. Caller's here. You want to go to break first?

Oh, sorry. We're going to go to break, everybody. And we come back. We've got a very exciting caller. Joel, do we have any presents to give away? He could be our February giveaway if you like. Yeah. I have so much

leftover merch from my different projects. I was thinking we could also give away my old merch. Sure, I can make that work. I have Wish I Was Here records. Love that. Oh, God. I think this guy's a fan.

I think he'd really appreciate it. I got vinyl Wish I Was Here and Garden State soundtracks. What? You should send that to Daniel. He'd like that. And to Joel. To Daniel. I didn't know that you were swinging to him.

The Garden State album slaps. I mean, look, we can save this for later, but I've purposely not tried to fanboy as much as possible. But surely you two know I literally grew up watching Scrubs. Garden State is one of my favorite and my family's favorite movies the soundtrack is like a soundtrack of our it's one of our family's favorite soundtracks of all time we don't need to go into this right now but like we can we can why are you shaking your head you love me all i'm hearing all i hear right now is dear slim i wrote you but you still ain't calling. I left my cell,

my painter, and my home phone at the bottom. I sent two letters back in autumn. You must not have got them. There probably was a problem at the post office

or something. Sometimes I scribble addresses too sloppy when I jot them. All right. I had to get up from my chair. What's been up, man?

How's your daughter? On that note, we'll be right back with my super fan and Joelle and Dan. Right back. Bring a little optimism into your life

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And we're back. And we're back. Daniel. Daniel. Yes? This is going to be yours. Oh, my God. So pretty. And it's 180 gram vinyl

Dear Mr. I'm too good to call Or write my fans This will be the last time that I ever 180 grams That's good for records That's thick It's thick, T-H-I-C-C I'm so touched, thank you man

It's been six months and still-I-C-C. I'm so touched. Thank you, man. Thank you. It's been six months and still no word. I don't deserve it. Inside is a personal letter for me, Daniel. There it is! There it is! Oh, God. He knows you. He knows you wrote the last two letters

perfect. It's right on point. It's such a touching moment between Zach and Daniel. Actually, this interesting story about this crane we're standing on. The flower was actually graffiti that was there. No way. And this didn't say New Jersey. It said some crane branding, but they changed it to New Jersey. Nice.

That's gorgeous. Thank you so much. A little inside scoop for you. How many black people were in the soundtrack? Not many. There doesn't appear to be any African Americans on the soundtrack. You didn't even have Matt the Man on the soundtrack, man. At what point in the movie?

I'm just blushing. This is how I got out of having to read the script. I just put it under that Alright So Daniel, we'll give that to you And maybe we'll give it to a fan as well That's really awesome, dude We're letting him in

Anthony Balistreri, I believe What's up, Anthony? Welcome, Anthony Thunderous applause, Daniel, for Anthony Anthony Balistreri There you go it you got it donald put a little have you ever done oprah voice with an italian last name donald the oprah is italian so welcome to the program sir how are you i'm great i'm great how are you

where are you calling uh in from ann arbor michigan well ann arbor in the house it's cold there i'm gonna hold up i'm gonna hold up my hand where are you here zach you got it right buddy it's right okay this is how they tell you in michigan you hold up your hand and he's right here you're right every michigander i've met has done that same thing it's i'm sorry it's nice you know what i just did that lame thing you know whenever i tell people i'm from jersey. You know what? I just did that lame thing. You know, whenever I tell people I'm from Jersey, they say, what exit? And I just hate that. And I just did it to you.

I did the hand thing from Michigan. I'm sorry. Now I've met folks from Jersey and they tell me there's a central Jersey that people not from Jersey don't know about. Jersey's huge and people don't know much about it. You know what I hate about people's shit about Jersey? Excuse my digression. But, you know, people give – this was kind of one of the points of Garden State was like I wanted to show how beautiful it was. People – it's the Garden State.

I mean that's why they call it. People fly into Newark. It's one of the biggest international airports in the world. Newark is our industrial area where – you know, it's a city. But obviously the airport is the industrial park. So you land and people are like, this is Jersey. Yeah. Jersey's beautiful. I bet. I bet. End of tirade. End of tirade. You know, I like the industrial part of Jersey. I'm going to be honest with you. Yeah. You spent some time there. I spent quite a bit of time there like uh almost uh eight nine months there and uh i love jersey and shout out to

shout out to jersey and shout out to the whole tri-state area how about yeah well i think we can just give jersey shout out michigan shout out michigan especially since we're giving out these gifts i am from here but it's nice it's nice um all, Anthony, do you have a question for us? Well, first, Anthony wrote in for a specific reason. All right, Anthony, write in for your specific reason. Sorry, Joel. I did, yeah. You know, Joel and I were talking beforehand. I thought I might

just read out my email. You'll be the first caller we've ever had read an email, but I'm going to approve it. Turn your key, sir. we've ever had read an email, but I'm going to approve it. Okay. I'll turn it here. He's prepared. As long as you're okay with it. Turn your key, sir. Turn my key. So I said, hey, Joelle, you know, I've got,

I just got done listening to episode 401. My old friend's new friend with Heather Graham that was released today, your caller, the pharmacist tech mentioned something about the Pfizer vaccine, which was not true. So I wanted to offer some clarification for you, Donald, and the rest of the fans. Though she was correct in saying that historically many vaccines are prepared using embryonated chicken eggs, these new mRNA vaccines

produced by Pfizer and Moderna are not made that way. So I then provided Joelle in the email a couple of different excerpts from documents saying that these mRNA vaccines are made in a cell-free way. So you needn't worry. You want us to broadcast to all over the world, which we can do for you now. Thank you for this public service. You needn't worry if you have an egg allergy about these vaccines. Yeah, I would say no. There's basically no egg. There's no egg in it at all. Okay. Yes, I call on Donald. Go. I have a question now. Okay,

so now, do you know about vaccine or is this just something that you know that this vaccine doesn't have? Yeah, you know, I'm a biochemist. I know quite a few things about a lot of stuff. I know stuff about vaccines. I'm not an expert, but I can tell you maybe some stuff. Yeah. Here's my question. I hear that Johnson & Johnson's vaccine is coming out and it's DNA based. What is the difference between DNA based and what does that mean? And the difference between what Pfizer and Moderna is? and the difference between what Pfizer and Moderna is? Sure, yeah.

You know, I can speak more on the mRNA vaccines because, you know, in the last 24 hours, I've tried to read up quite a bit more on them. But the Johnson & Johnson vaccine is something different. It's not this new technology. However, it is something that is, it's not an old technology as well. They're using an AAV vector. So this is another virus. However, it doesn't cause any

disease in humans. And so they're just using that same system to inject some viral DNA into cells in order to create that immunological response. And the Johnson & Johnson one is coming out, right? It's happening? Yeah, I think they're probably applying for their EUA somewhat soon. So I think their data is coming out and it looks pretty good. The last time I checked, it wasn't as effective as these mRNA ones, but still definitely useful, especially because it's not stored in the same way. It can be stored at a much warmer temperature. Oh, you don't need the freezing cold. You don't need the freezing cold freezer, special freezer thing.

Yeah, that's right. What's your opinion, Anthony, on whether the government should be giving out all the second doses as they come in or holding them back? Because that seems to be a point of contention these days. Yeah. So I think we should really stick with what that first authorization said, which was that we should have two doses separated by this amount of time, because that's where all that data was showing, you know, they have some data showing, you know, how effective it is with just one dose, but that, you know, they were only tracking a certain amount of people like that. And that was because, you know, those people didn't show up for their second dose or whatever. So that that's a much smaller amount of people. We have much more

data showing that yes, two doses can be this effective and i think i know but the trick is that like you've got the the logistics of planning to withhold these doses even though there's a line around the corner because everyone needs their second dose we gotta we gotta count on the fact if we give these out that the second doses for the people that already got their first dose will be back in time. You know, that's you're right. That's a lot of trust in the in the system. You're right. It's a crazy thing. It's a crazy thing that we're even suggesting that we can do. You know, that the fact that we can sort of say, oh, we're going to try and make all these things and send them out to all these people. That's that's a logistical nightmare. I can't even think about what it would take to do something like this.

Well, they haven't quite done it just yet. I'm about to say they haven't figured it out. The rollout, I'm going to be honest with you, in my opinion. It's been slow. I think it's been very slow. I think it's been especially slow in African-American communities and in Latino-American communities. And you know what I mean? Like if you look at the data, it shows that white Americans are getting vaccine a lot more than minorities in America. And that's crazy to me as well. But as I understand it, Anthony, there wasn't really a federal plan. I mean,

the previous administration had just said to the states, like, figure it out, right? Now they have to start and build a federal infrastructure. I know that they asked for military help, manpower to help distribute vaccines. Don't you think that would make it a little bit more organized though, Zach? Like I've, in some ways, this is one of the first time where it's like, I kind of wouldn't mind having, you know having military medical personnel. No, I'm all for it. Do something. Do something.

We're this incredibly rich country. We spend more money times 100 than anybody else does in the military. Use them for something that's actually not going to put men and women's life in danger. Use them in any way. Well, their life is going to still be in danger. It's COVID, man. So they're still risking catching COVID and dying from COVID. Okay. And of course, I'm just saying we're not sending them off to a foreign war. Understood.

We're saying let's help them heal the country. Understood. You know, it's important to note that progress is being made. You know, I'm from San Diego, and I lived there all my life before I turned 18. And so I try to keep my my ear down at what's happening down there. And they're setting up these huge vaccine deployment things. There's one in Petco, the place where the Padres play. There's there's more being made all the time.

They want to do 5000 doses a day. And although that's not fast enough, it's something right. It's getting out no didn't they set something up like that here at dodger stadium no there's one in riverside riverside has the you don't have all you have to do is make an appointment and live in the riverside area it's a mass vaccination uh spot in california inide, California. But you still got to be over 65. No, it's anybody who wants to get vaccinated that lives in the city of Riverside, in the county of Riverside.

Really? Yeah. How did they get the doses? I thought we had made a national rule that we were- So what's happening is that doses are being sent to the state. Now remember, this is what I'm reading here. I'm not reading. This is what I'm seeing on the news.

So please do not. It's on the news, and I'm quoting the news. So please don't jump on me if you feel like I've misquoted somebody. Well, we have Anthony here to clarify any fuck-ups you make. Don't do that to me, Zach. I can't do that shit. Don't do that to him either, man. It's not right. It's not right.'s not right nobody deserves that well we should have real jd back on because he's mr dial so but check this out so check this out this is what's happening across america with

this rollout some places are set up to deliver vaccine by appointment to the elderly what happens is this happened in LA, in Los Angeles County, at, they were supposed to go till, let's say it was from eight o'clock in the morning to eight o'clock at night. They were doing their due diligence

and giving the vaccine to everyone that had the appointment. And at seven o'clock, somebody shows up with 500 more vaccine of containers of vaccine and is like, here, we've got more vaccine. Now they don't have an appointment. These things are going to run out. Yeah, they're going to they're going to expire. Yeah. What do you do? This guy runs out into the street and starts giving vaccine to people walking down the street.

If they're getting out vaccine and they're not caring of how it's being trained, not transported, but how it's being taken care of, how it's being administered. If they're not putting the infrastructure into place, what do you expect people to do? So the city of Riverside, it seems like it's like, look, if we have this vaccine, let's give it away. Let's not throw it out. I've heard that. And I've heard anecdotally, some stories about LA where there's distribution centers, like you're saying, that run out of senior citizen appointments or run out of, you know, all the people that are eligible in whatever this is called. Are we in 1B? Is that what we're in now? I don't know. I think it's called like whatever this is like. It's like supermarket workers,

frontline workers, healthcare workers, and everyone over 65. And so they don't have anyone like you're saying. And so people are like lining up, like it's like a sneaker store or, or, or Supreme and,

and, and waiting to be like, you know, you're going to throw them away. Can I get one of those? And so that's become like a, a, like a, a thing people are doing. They're like waiting. And then some're going to throw them away. Can I get one of those? And so that's become like a thing people are doing. They're like waiting. And some days they don't get it. Some days they do. There are a bunch of ways. There are a bunch of ways that you can get vaccine and not be,

you know, a senior or there are a bunch of ways. You can volunteer from what I understand, at the sites and watch, you know, observe people administering the vaccine. But that feels like trying to do something to get it feels, I don't know, a bit sketchy to me, like you're cutting. Whereas like we're in a line because they're going to go bad and no one's here feels like you're not cutting. Do you know what I mean? I don't think I don't. That's the thing, though. The way it's being rolled out right now. I don't know that it feels like even the government seems to be like survival of the fittest because they're not they don't give a crap on who's or it feels like that.

That's what it feels like when you watch the news and you're given the information from the news. That's what it feels like. When you watch the news and you're given the information from the news, that's what it feels like. It feels like we aren't, the country isn't doing enough to protect people from COVID. That's what it feels like. That's the narrative. The important thing is that these vaccines were made in order to protect people from the risk of getting this disease and everyone that is at risk which are is mostly older people but people that have pre-existing conditions they should be able to get it as quickly as possible well we know somebody who didn't have a pre pre-existing condition and he passed away from COVID.

And you know what I mean? And he was 40 years old and healthy. And 40 years old and healthy. His wife's a trainer. And so it's like, if it's available and other people don't want it, then give it to the people who do. It's just that simple. Yeah. All right. Let's segue because we've done a long time on this.

And we were trying to do a show for the haters. So we're doing a show for the haters. and i feel like right now we're talking to all the lovers out there you know bring a little optimism into your life with the bright side a new kind of daily podcast from hello sunshine hosted by me danielle robey and me simone voice every weekday we're bringing you conversations about culture the latest trends inspiration and so much more i am so excited about this podcast, The Bright Side. You guys are giving people a chance to shine a light on their lives, shine a light on a little advice that they want to share.

Listen to The Bright Side on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free iHeart app and search The Bright Side. iHeart Podcast update this week on your free iHeart Radio app. In retrospect, revisit pop culture moments from the 80s and 90s and try to understand what it taught us about the world and a woman's place in it. Crying in public. Two 20-something college women living in NYC dive into growing up at a time when there was no distinction between what's public and what's private.

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If you've been following the news, you know that from health care access to safe schools, LGBTQ plus rights are under attack. And it's about time queer and trans youth get the microphone and tell their stories in their own words. I'm Raquel Willis. Join me on my new podcast, Queer Chronicles, a show where LGBTQ plus folks tell their own stories in their own words.

This season, teens will share all about growing up in political battleground states. I wish I could feel more comfortable in my own body here, but that's just not the case. And follow along as they discover what queer and trans liberation means to them. This isn't running away from yourself. It's running into who you want to grow into. running away from yourself. It's running into who you want to grow into. Listen to Queer Chronicles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your most fabulous shows. What are we doing by show for the haters? Well, the haters want us to speak. Don't worry about it. The haters want us to speak things up and talk about things that the haters want. The real true haters just want Dahl and I to solely talk about Scrubs and spend 90 minutes dissecting the episode.

Now, Dahl and I wouldn't do this show if that were the rules because we would find it quite boring. What we enjoy is the patter and laughing like we do as friends. As Turk and JD did on Scrubs. Because seven of my Instagram commenters got in my head. We're giving them one. We're trying to. We're making a show for the haters. They're going to get one.

They're going to get one episode out of nine seasons. What's that? Go ahead, Anthony. This actually comes right into the question that I had. Does anyone claim Antony? Perfect. Anthony would be great. Does anyone claim Antony?

Anthony would be great. I hear Antoine sometimes, and my family calls me Ants, A-N-T-Z. Anthony's one of those names where you can pick from a myriad of nicknames, like William. Oh, but not Tony, though. Thousand percent not Tony. All right. All right. Thank you.

All right. What about Ants? Ants is great. All right. Go ahead, Ben. What's your question? So, you know, I wanted it to be somewhat thought provoking. So I tried to.

Joelle only gave me like 20 hours to come up with a question. 20 hours is so long. Not even less than that, probably 12. Go ahead. But anyway, this question is for all you guys. And it came from a recent argument, loving but somewhat heated argument between me and my best friend, who of course I have to shout out. His name's Matthew Osaro. He is the JD to my Turk.

Yeah, I love that you're Turk, brother. I love that you're Turk. Yeah, we dressed up as Halloween, and I was Turk, and he was JD. But you didn't do blackface. I did not do blackface. I have a picture to show you. Every year, Donald has to warn people, do a public service announcement. You're welcome to play Turk.

Please don't blackface yourself. All right, go ahead. So the question is about modern criticism. So it seems like increasingly these days, audiences feel like they have a sense of ownership over the content that they love. So audiences will, you know, they'll fall in love with a movie or a show

or a video game or whatever. And then there's some time and the next episode or the next movie or the next season comes out. And if the plot points or the character arcs or something doesn't fall out the way that that audience member particularly wanted it to, then they now feel like that content is trash. It's not what they wanted. It was bad. It was done poorly. There's lots of examples of this.

Like The Last of Us Part 2. I knew you were going to say that. I knew you were going to say that. The Last of Us Part 2. I was like I wonder if this is based on The Last of Us Part 2. It's not just based on that. The Rise of Skywalker is a movie example. Wait wait hold on i think i think let him finish let him finish he's i he i know in terms of television the last the last season of game of thrones right yeah it's really

really really hated so to me you know where i fall on this is that uh it takes away some of the agency that the creator has to create their artwork in the way that they want. And so when people take this perspective that I would rather something else have happened, so therefore you made the wrong decision, I think that somehow sits wrong with me. However, alternatively, other people, you know, they feel like audiences should be catered to because that's what this is for. is for their entertainment and so i wanted the opinion of you guys as as artists and creators which you all are um just to think maybe how do you feel do you see this trend happening what do you feel about this this type of problem so i i am i love that this is the type of conversation that i like to have and i wish

a lot of people had conversations like this because I think maybe a lot of the things that happen, a lot of the bullying that happens, a lot of the, I don't want to say hatred, but that's what it is, that comes from people's emotions and investing when they invest in movies and stuff like that. If it's talked about, we can solve all of these problems. So I am one who believes that the audience does have some ownership. And I feel like if you create something and you put it out there, you're doing it so that the audience can feel like they do have a bit of ownership in it. And I think that's what makes, and I'm going to bring this up because it's one of my favorite things in the world.

And I'm going to bring this up because it's one of my favorite things in the world. With Star Wars, I love that Lucasfilm and them give you ownership, like give a lot of the fans ownership in from fan film to theory to whatever. I love that. gets a little dicey though is when things don't go your way as a as a self-proclaimed owner of whatever it is um i'm of the i'm of the feeling that if it's if it's good it doesn't matter so uh uh where so like i have issues with the last jedi i still think it's a good movie i just don't think it fits in the star wars uh the star wars skywalker saga do i hate the episode of star wars i can't wait we don't have time here but one day do i do i hate the last jedi no i love the last jedi i just don't think it fits and i think

because of that the rise of skywalker suffered that's me personally i'm allowed to think that i'm allowed to have that opinion it's to have that opinion. It's my opinion. That's all it is. But you're probably not the guy who's on a board or on Twitter trashing. It's so hard that, well, it goes a little too far. Then people become bullies and stuff like that.

And that happens. And, and, and that's where it goes too far. You know, like that yeah that happens and and and that's where it goes too far you know what happened to some of the actors from star wars is horrible and should have never happened that girl should have never had is that her name kelly marie tran was bullied uh uh ahmed best rose you know what i mean the legend you know even you know ridley yeah daisy ridley like she's no longer on social media

because of it yeah um and it's because and i think it's because uh you know fans want to be heard and when people conflict when people fight back when there's pushback then it becomes a i don't know man everyone i don't know man i don't know how, I don't know, man. Everyone, I don't know, man. I don't know how to, I don't know. This is a great thought-provoking question. I feel like ownership in something, I think ownership in something is, that's how you know you have a hit. When people are like, I feel like I'm a part of this. You know you've struck a nerve.

You know what I mean? I know, but it's a bit self-destructive. It can be self-destructive. You can destroy the thing you like. Like, I worry for Bill. Oh, absolutely. I'm sure Ted Lasso season two is going to be amazing, right? But there's so much hype and pressure for him to deliver, for him and Jason to deliver something as good or better that you just you

just can't help but go oh god season two i hope that they don't get and i can just picture like people being like no it's ruined fucking sucks and it's it well you know it's a high class problem you've created something people are so passionate about but but it also is like it it's it's very hard to once people like something so much to uh to still create in that space without offending some portion of the audience and you have to care about that you need to worry about offending i'll just jump in here real quick the the point is the fans don't know what they want. And it's a problem because sometimes fans think that they have ownership to the extent that they

know how a story should unfold instead of sitting back and going, this is how I'd like the story to unfold. This is why I'm such a promoter of fan fiction. In fan fiction, anything you want to happen can happen, and you can just rub that in that own space. But you can't possibly... I, a writer and a critic, don't know what I want from a show.

Like, I have ideas. I have thoughts about it. But what I want is to be surprised. And I cannot manufacture that surprise by guessing what's going to happen at the end. You want a creator, especially if we're going to talk about franchises or big tentpole things that have this longevity and an established tone and feel like we live in these worlds. Sometimes hours are rewatching these movies, we know every detail. And so we are invested in them as if they are, you know, for some of us, it's like sports, like we know

the players, we understand how the rules of the world and how it works. And so we get very enveloped in like, if it doesn't follow those rules, it's hard to understand. What I think is happening right now for fans is there's a new, we've reached a new, a new platitude of a fandom, right? Before, if you liked a movie, you liked the movie. You had the poster, maybe you saw it when it came to an old theater and was rerunning. That was it. Now, if you like a movie or a TV show or a comic or a franchise, there's like all this history involved in this very long legacy. And there are now new people allowed to tell those stories. Right. And when you have new people coming in to tell these stories, what they're looking for is something that they got out of the original fandom that wasn't at the surface.

Right. So what I love about Batman isn't necessarily Batman. He's like a rich white guy going out to kick ass. Right. So what I love about Batman isn't necessarily Batman. He's like a rich white guy going out to kick ass. I like all of his sidekicks who created a family for him. And like and that becomes his like main thing that he has to focus on is his family not going to kill the bad guys. Now, that's different than what Batman was intended for. But it's no it doesn't mean any less of a fan. It's a different kind of fan. It makes me a fan who has a problem enjoying a modern Batman movie. Right.

That doesn't mean I don't like it. It just means it's different. And we as fans have to accept there are two different roads now, and we have to appreciate those two roads. That was my question. If you take that away, is it still a good Batman movie in your eyes? Yeah, because it's still Batman. It's still the core Batman that people can enjoy. I don't need to like it to know that there's a fan base for it, and they freaking love it, and they get a lot of it. If you like Batman holding a gun, power to you, man. That's all you. Like, you can enjoy that.

There's no problem with that. I hate it. I hate it so much. I don't think Batman ever would touch a gun. It's weird to me. There's other content for me to enjoy, and I don't have to tear down a filmmaker or his vision in the same way I don't like the modern doctor. Or drive him off Twitter exactly exactly we have to allow space for all of our like in the way that comic books has done really well over the years which is to say if you don't like a creator's vision that's

fine don't buy it don't buy the comic right it's different and it doesn't make it wrong or bad it's just different and we can enjoy the different iterations of the characters. Also, keep in mind years ago no one had all this ability to scream to the heavens everything they hated. I mean, this whole everyone can opine thing has created this issue.

Well, I mean it's one of the most interesting and one of my... I don't hate it. I love the fact that there's all this dialogue. I do hate the bullying, but I love the fact that there's all of this dialogue about, you know, a project that seemed to be one of my favorite things that seemed to be uh you know the argument was it's the same thing over and over again and then when it was given something different it shifted people the you know it made people go the wrong way made a lot of people go a different way it made a lot of you know it switched everybody up i really mean episode seven to eight you mean yeah i i well

yeah seven to eight to nine all of it yeah you know what i mean isn't star wars a good example of um ryan johnson came out and made a film that was challenging everyone everyone screamed at it so then they they over corrected and went back to like just a loyal fan that's a perfect example of it and i think so here's the thing it it wasn't what a lot of fans wanted. That being said, it was still made. And there's a great story that could have happened afterwards. that, you know, it split, it split Star Wars in half, but it was like, it's almost like a civil war that's going on or that was going on and, uh, that they tried to correct it. And I think maybe that was a, I think maybe that was a bad move. I still love Star Wars. I still, I still watch the rise of Skywalker. I still watch the last Jedi. I still, you know, I, I, I, I'm me and Joel talk about it all the time. Fans might not know exactly what they want. They might think they know what they, yeah,

I agree with Joel. They might not, they might think they know what they want, but that's not necessarily going to be satisfying to them. It's comfort food. It's comforting to just have something that's familiar. It's like anything you tried that's different. You tighten up and you go, oh, this is different. This isn't what I know. And I want the comfort. I want the safe thing. And it also depends on how you think of movies and stuff like that. You know, you have to be invested. That's the only way you can get to this level of fandom. All right. Well, that was a very thought provoking question. of fandom. Um, all right.

Well, that was a very thought provoking question. Um, I think we need to, we need to kind of end it because we're doing a short show today for, for the haters. You don't want to try and fix his life. Do you have a fix your life problem?

Of course I do. I will go quickly. Is it going to be a thought report, thought revoked, thought revoking. I can't, I can't even, I can't even think right now.

not even once. One of my buttons on the, on the new thing we're getting is going to be weed, not even once. I hate you. All right, go ahead. Yosemite Sam. I hate you. All right, a quick fix your life, sir.

Go ahead. All right, so I'm a young or relatively young single guy, and I work a lot and um you know I'm in graduate school I I lived in Silicon Valley before I moved out here to Michigan and there's this culture of working all the time work work work and now I'm in this PhD program at this big R1 university like University of Michigan and it's just the same you know you work work work and I see myself kind of barreling down this career path of you know having all this work in my life where I'm sort of pushing away the other things so I can see how and this would be my my mom's opinion which she's made vocal before many times that I don't give myself enough time to dedicate to like the non-work life portions of my life you know like the romantic life or hobbies or other work-life

balance sorts of things. So I know that you guys have both navigated these careers where, you know, there's seasons, I'm sure, where you've got these times where you're not doing much, but then there are seasons where you're working all the time. In those seasons, how do you still find that balance? You know, how do you still make time for romantic relationships or other things? You have to choose it because this is all you got. I mean, I always come at it from the point of view, I don't believe in an afterlife. So this is all I got, okay?

I'm 45 years old. If I'm lucky, let's say I make it to, let's call it 90. So I got 45 solid years. And then that's it. Then they shovel me in the ground. What are you going to do with that time? Of course, pursue your dreams and your goals like you are. But do you want your one experience on earth not to have love, not to have travel, not to have adventure? You're very smart. Obviously, you're going to achieve all your career goals. I don't think anyone listening

could have any doubts about that. But the question you have to ask yourself is what else do you want your life to be about? And it's about dedicating time to that, making it a make, committing, choosing to making time for it. Sure. Sure. Donald. That's tough. Um, Zach and I got into an argument over stuff. We get into arguments over things like this all the time. Sorry about it.

No, it's quite all right. You know, work is very, very important, and I get that. I'm one of the people who hates the fact that work is so important in making it so that I can have the things I want. But I get the fact. I get work hard and you achieve things. But I hate that. Okay, here's the thing. Here's the thing. I hate that I'm defined Here's the thing. Here's the thing. I hate that.

I'm defined by how hard I work. I think that is, uh, I think that is in a lot of ways, bullshit. I think I should be, I don't think I should be defined by anyone. I feel like if you are going to judge me,

judge me by how I'm hard. I love my family. Judge me by how hard I, here's my daughter right here. Right on cue, she comes in. Listeners, right as he said that, Wilder came in for a hug. Oh, we're almost done. Okay. Guys, my kid is going to college today.

He is leaving the homestead to go away to college. That's exciting. Somewhere in California. Somewhere in California. He can't leave the station. That's exciting. Yeah, he's going to art school. You're getting your first MC Nestor moment.

Yeah, it's pretty crazy. Only 11 more to go. It took a while with all them kids. Well, Anthony, I don't know you like that, first of all. Anthony, you're getting a little too comfortable taking shots at the host. Guys, I've been listening to this podcast

since it started, so I've heard all the stories. That's too much ownership right there, Anthony. Too much ownership right there, Anthony. Sounds like Donald shouldn't have a problem with that, then. I don't. I love it. Anthony's putting his feet up on the desk and shit. I love that.

As he should. Listen, we got to go, Anthony, because we're trying to appease our haters and do a shorter show. You're a lovely man. Thanks, guys. You're a very thought-provoking guest. Don't feel bad if some of the Star Wars stuff is cut out, because I don't want

Lucasfilm to be mad at me. You guys honor me with your comments. Oh, he said you honor me, Daniel. He is a super fan. By the way, you saying you honor me is going to be another button on my pad. You honor me. Daniel, I need one also that has a little record thing

so I can be... Honor me. Honor me. How much equipment. Daniel, I need one also that has a little record thing so I can be honor me, honor me, honor me. How much equipment do you want in your dad's bag? How much equipment do you want in your dad's bag? I just want a full-on DJ rig here. All right. Anthony, good luck in your pursuits. Thank you, guys. We have no doubt.

I wanted to plug a couple things if there was a second. Go for yours. Go for yours. You can plug away. I got a professional Twitter, as one does these days days so if you guys wanted to shout that out so that's at a ballast underscore chem bio so a b a l i s t underscore chem bio c a especially if you're a young lady who's looking for a phd candidate i wouldn't disagree with you and might and might live near michigan go ahead i just followed all you guys this morning on Twitter and followed Donald on Instagram as well.

Thank you very much. But only you, Donald. Nobody else. That's only between you and me. Anthony, thank you. Also, you know, I wanted to say that scientific communication is really tough. You know, the biggest story in the world right now is a science story. And there's people out there that are really trying to do that and disseminate information in a good way. And it's

really hard, but there are people out there that do it. So if I could point everybody to This Week in Virology, which is a podcast as well as a YouTube channel, which is hosted by a virology professor at Columbia. And it's a group of professors that get around and talk about their virologists and immunologists that talk about everything that's happening right now and it's really good science talking and it can be a little bit tough at times but they've got non scientists that listen and it's great information that I really I've been listening to lots of podcasts lately and I'll add that to my mix. Thank you. Andy Slavitt is also a great follow. Andy Slavitt is now, I think, one of Biden's people in charge of the COVID response,

and he's a super smart guy on Twitter, all about everything. All right, Anthony, thank you so much. And that's a new section called Anthony's Plugs. We're going to have it in every episode. Anthony will come back on and plug something. In just your friendly neighborhood biochemist trying to send good vibes. All right.

All right, sir. Thanks for coming on. Take care, Anthony. Thank you. Take care. Bye-bye. Bring a little optimism into your life with The Bright Side,

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Donald, let's talk a little bit more about the show because there's some funny stuff we haven't talked about. There are quite a few things that we haven't talked about. Marty returns, the janitor's sidekick. They probably played one of the best pranks on you. Yes. Very good. The janitor breaks the broom in half.

And I'm like, oh, are you trying to be intimidating? Why? He goes, no, I needed to break the broom in half. And I'm like, what possible reason could you have for breaking the broom in half? And in walks Marty. Sup, brah. Sup, bruh? Sup, bruh? Thanks, bruh. Thanks, bruh. By the way, it was the perfect

size for him. It was a perfect size for him. Yeah, yeah. It's a great joke. And then he's, but to make the joke work, he has to sweep in the hole. You have to see him sweep with it. Yeah, but he's sweeping the carpet, which is the classic Neil thing. Why am I sweeping the carpet, which is the classic Neil thing. Why am I sweeping the carpet?

Why am I mopping the carpet? All right. So that was funny. And I laughed at when Todd pulls his heart out in a fantasy to give to the patient, just as he's dying, he says, I'm gay. Makes sense. Makes sense. Yeah. Well, we know that he's fluid as the kids say well we know that well we know that he likes he wants to know about turk's package all the time yes but i think it's safe to say we've we've talked about on the show that the todd is is the top that's right look how cute my dog is right or anything and everything are you looking how cute my dog is right now so For anything and everything. Are you looking at how cute my dog is right now?

So cute. The dog is not cute. That dog is so ugly. What? Shut the fuck. You see the dog look up like, what the fuck did he say about me? The fuck did he say about me?

Oh my God. What a beautiful puppy. He is a very, you have a very beautiful dog. Coolio. Sarah says, Coolio. And dog Anywho Coolio And Kelso goes Coolio indeed Coolio indeed

I want to talk about Cox and Jordan In this episode Because they have a very interesting storyline In the beginning of the show they're all happy go lucky And they're loving the fact that There's no There's commitment but there's but there's nothing hanging over them. And then they find out that they're still married.

She finds their old wedding rings, and she presents them to him. And he says, are you kidding me? I love this. I'm going to wear this for the rest of my life. And it sends them down a spiral of, I don't know if I can do this for the rest of my life. Yeah. spiral of, I don't know if I can do this for the rest of my life. Yeah.

Well, it really articulates well, I think, that when you put a wedding ring on someone, the difference is you're saying, for the rest of our lives. And they were perfectly fine in getting along without the pressure of, for the rest of your life. Right. And the second they had that pressure back, they were like, fuck, they were all out of whack. So they hold a divorce. They have a ceremonial divorce and invite people to come watch them get divorced.

And that's why Ted's getting drunk at the end of the show. Right. Yeah. Exactly. Because it's the after party. What were you about to say? You like what? I like being married.

I enjoy it. I enjoy. I like it. It's a lot of fun. You found a good partner. You know, and it's not always that way, but I truly enjoy my wife. I think you got singleness out of your system.

You know, I was a serial dater for a really long time, and I don't know that I was ever really single single. I am for sure married now, and I think i've got the dating out of my system i love i love what me and my wife have and how we and i i think i think if you have that and you know for us we like the feeling of being married we like the the statement that it makes for us to us to each other but whatever but whatever it is you believe, whatever makes love work for you, you stick to it, right? And that's what Jordan and Cox do at the end of the show. I think they show a good example of a couple that's like, we just don't like the word married.

It fucks us up. We'd rather just not be married. It ain't for everyone. It really isn't for everyone. Let's talk about those Raw outfits from the movie, from Eddie Murphy's Raw. Yeah. Now, I don't remember. Are those the exact replicas?

Because I remember that was the style-ish. I think it's a replica. I really love the fact that we are having trouble walking around in them. That's so funny. We can't walk in them. And then I really love your take on the word raw at the end of the joke. No wonder Eddie Murphy called it raw. I go, I go, I'm chafing.

Now I know why Eddie called it raw. You added a little bit more to the raw at the end. What did I do? What did I say? You were like raw. Now I know why Eddie called it raw. And then I go to find, I go, Carla, do you have any powder? But the way we walk in those outfits is so funny.

They should have brought those back. Oh, man. Didn't we? We didn't do that again, didn't we? No, I don't think we wore those outfits again. Okay. How about when Elliot's go, oh, look at poor Elliot riding a tandem bike alone. I always thought that's got to be the saddest and loneliest sight you can see is someone riding a tandem bike alone.

That's judging a book by its cover. You don't know that person's circumstance. Why are they riding a tandem bike alone? It's so lonely. Well, in Elliot's case, her car broke down, and that was the only bike that she had available to her. Yeah. It'd be funny.

It would be even more sad if you could ride the tandem bike alone from the back. Oh, God. That would make it seem even more lonesome. I don't even want to take the lead. I just want to be miserable in the back. By the way, I would love a tandem bike you could ride alone from behind. That would be so funny to watch. You just need to adjust the steering to the back.

To the middle, however it would be. Yeah, so then I get tackled. I didn't know why that happened, although it was funny. I just had no idea why it happened. That's it. That's the show, yeah. What were you about to say? Well, I was going to say the real one ends with Beck's song Lost Cause,

but I had something else on my one on iTunes for some copyright reasons. Thanks a lot, Randall. That's our show, everybody. We did it in- For the haters. No, that's our show for the haters. That's our show, haters. Yeah.

For the haters. But we still digress. But for those of you who write mean comments to Donald and I saying that we digress too much, that's as minimum as it's going to get. That's as minimal as it's going to get. And we did an hour 30. And that's it. That's the one time we's going to get. That's as minimal as it's going to get. And we did an hour 30. And that's it.

That's the one time we're going to do that in nine seasons we do this. Okay? Right, Joelle? Yes. I really like the – I really – I feel like we should hang up and then catch up more because we just didn't do enough of it. And I need more of it from you. Well, do you want to – we can always get off the line.

No, I don't want to – this is for the haters. I'm going to – I'll call you privately. Okay. I want to talk to you about some movies I saw. I want to do some impressions for you. Have you seen any movies? I want to tell you the craziest story you've ever heard. Sorry, guys.

I can't tell it on the show. But I have the craziest bit of gossip for you. Damn it. I can't wait to hear it. You're not going to believe it. I ran into Brad Pitt. No, get the fuck out of here. I didn't. He's listening to the podcast. I'm going to tell you

the story. I'll tell you offline. Tell me later. I'll tell you offline. All right, guys. We love you. Hey, for Valentine's Day, this is a very cheap slash funny present for your lover. It's Turk and JD split heart keychains. They're available at CottonBureau.com. And then just search for Fake Doctors Real Friends. And, of course, if you work in a job like a hospital where you need a badge pull, we made them for you.

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I got something to tell you too. It's going to be great. Okay. By the way, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm pregnant,

but I don't want to tell everyone on the show. So I'm going to tell you in private. The internet rumors are about to be wild. You know, you know, it's probably, I don't mean, I don't, I don't mean tell you in private. The internet rumors are about to be wild. You know it's probably going to be. I don't mean my partner's pregnant. I mean I am pregnant. Well, you know it's probably going to be an ass baby then.

Yes. I want to tell you about. I've already talked to the doctor about how I'm going to deliver through my rectum. Five, six, seven, eight. I've got stories about a show we made. About a bunch of docs and nurses and a janitor who loved to hate. I said, here's the stories that you all should know. So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald.

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