Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - 420: My Boss's Free Hair Cut

Episode Date: May 4, 2021

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Listen to Queer Chronicles on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your most fabulous shows. Oh my God, look how skinny he is. He's fat. Let's go. Look how skinny. He really looks great Dude, you lost 40 pounds in your head I wish I lost 40 pounds Do you notice how You don't because you look in the mirror every day

But to those of us who don't see you every week You lost a lot of weight in your face I lost a lot of weight in my body It looks like too i dropped 15 pounds uh just changing not necessarily changing i changed how i ate yes but i was losing weight before that strictly from quitting the weed and the booze yeah so well i'm finding that um for those of you, if you want to expedite your fitness, giving up animals and alcohol is definitely expedites things. Well, yeah.

Well, giving up the weed is really, really dead trick. You know what I mean? That makes you hungry. Everybody knows that yeah not only that freaking we are thc is stored in your fat cells and uh so it takes a long time to get out of your body and when your body is detoxing from it a lot of people think oh i could smoke weed you smoke weed like me and snoop dogg and then try to quit you're gonna go you're gonna have some withdrawal yeah and i had withdrawals like night sweats and stuff like that and let me tell you something right now night sweats kind of

help with the losing of the weight but we don't endorse that as a means of uh trying to lose weight i think alcohol helps giving up alcohol is not just the the empty calories but also what happens you get buzzed and you're like, oh, fuck it. Let's order cheeseburgers, you know? Right, right. Well, yeah, that helped, too. How are you? I miss you.

I'm glad that I see you back in your closet. I'm back in the closet. It's good to see you guys. Hey, I want to say something. Not to toot my own horn, but Dan will please insert a tooting horn noise here. The film that I made with Christopher Walken is currently number four on iTunes. That's amazing. Yay!

Congratulations. That is awesome. It's called Percy vs. Goliath. And please watch it if you're listening and you can hear my voice. I would love for you to check it out. I have a supporting part, a relatively small part. I play his lawyer.

It's a true story about a farmer who took on Monsanto in Canada. And it is the ultimate David and Goliath story. This man had the most insane courage and, um, Christopher Walken is Christopher Walken for God's sakes. And Christina Ricci's in it. And,

you know, we made this movie for $10 and it has no marketing budget. And I just thought, Oh, this, no one's ever going to see this. And then I looked today, I looked this morning,

it was number four on iTunes. That's amazing. That's amazing. That's amazing, dude. That is absolutely awesome. Thunders applause, Dan. Yeah, I got this one, Dan. Here. I have your key turners.

It's the first time I've been able to give myself a thunders applause. Yes, Donald? I have your key turners. So when we say turn your key, we can do all of that. And apparently, it's set up so that it can

actually like dan or you'll be have to be the one to do it but it's set up to where you could plug something into it and it actually functions as a mechanism so that's awesome wow is that is that fellow who made those coming on the show? I believe he's our guest today. Oh, great. He certainly is. We can ask him how to do it. Yeah. I guess it's MIDI.

Absolutely. That's my guess. What else is going on? I watched a really great movie. I got to say something. Ready? Go for it. You know who's one of the most underrated actors in Hollywood?

Donald Faison. I agree. I agree. I agree. That's what I'm talking about. He needs more work. I'm telling you right now. That's what I'm talking about. He needs more work. I'm telling you right now. That's what I'm talking about.

Yes. If you're listening and you need an actor, call Donald. Who's the most underrated actor? No, I'm not the most. But a very underrated, amazing actress who I watched in a film that was drop jaw good last night is Molly Shannon. So good. Now, you might know Molly Shannon as genius comedian from SNL and from all the movies she's been in.

But recently, she's been doing some dramatic work. And holy shit, you have to see this movie called Other People. I'm giving it 10 out of 10 stars. It was incredible. And I mean, my brother's in town. He goes, I can't believe she didn't get nominated for this and I had the same thought she is so fucking talented

that woman I mean I knew her to be a comedic genius but she brings the drama chops too I feel like the Oscars this year was a little weird just to put it out there I thought Chadwick Boseman was a shoe in the wind so did they that's why they put it last that was I thought Chadwick Boseman was a shoe in the wind. So did they.

That's why they put it last. It was a mess. That was so weird. I don't understand. It was definitely weird. I don't get it. I don't know what happened. I do have to say that that Anthony Hopkins performance in The Father is one of the most

amazing performances I've ever seen, period. Well, it is Sir Anthony Hopkins. Did you see it? Did you guys see it? I did not see it. I was sure Chadwick was going to win, like everyone, including the producers of the show. Even to my friends that day, I was like,

Chadwick's going to win for obvious reasons because he's an extraordinary actor and people are so heartbroken by what happened. But I said to myself, and it's a close race because that Anthony Hobbikin's performance was holy shit, I can't believe it was a masterclass in acting.

And then I was genuinely surprised like everybody when he won. But do see the movie because the movie is unbelievable. Oh, absolutely. Don't, don't, if you're gonna,

if you're gonna complain about it like I am, I have to watch every movie before I can say, like I thought Chadwick was a shoe in the wind because of his body of work, you know, what he's meant to the entertainment industry since he's come through.

And, you know, and he passed away, and I was hoping that, you know, like other actors who have passed away in the past would have their... Heath Ledger. That's a perfect example, like other actors who have passed away in the past, uh, would have their, he, that's a perfect example would get the, you know what?

It might not be the best performance of his career, but we're not going to get an opportunity to see anymore. So let's give him, let's give him. I think so many people thought that Donald, I mean, they literally restructured the show so that it would end with this beautiful moment. Right. I'm sure his his widow um speaking as she has done so eloquently

before um so it was shocking to everybody yeah but that being said let's talk about the television show scrub shall we five six seven eight stories about a show we made about a bunch of doctors I have my brother and my friend Preston in town. And I said, hey, I got to watch the show for the podcast. Do you want to watch with me? And they had lots of jazz cabbage. And I was like a little bit nervous because I was like, oh, what if it's one that's not that funny? They were fucking hysterically laughing at this episode. I was not smoking but hysterically laughing at this episode.

It's a really funny one. It has some great moments in it. I mean, one of the funniest moments in Scrubs history is you naked in the fetal position on the ground. I even think it's funny when I'm on the ground. You can see me breaking as I'm saying these lines. You are? Yeah, I'm smiling.

I'm smiling. I have a smile on my face. Your penis was well hidden. You must have... Because your penis isn't one you can just tuck under. You really have to sort of strap it down like a leg holster. Do you have a leg holster? You honor me.

Hold on. You honor me. Oh, my goodness. I lost my cheat sheet for where you honor me is. This is a guess. No, that's not it. No, that's the big one. We can't use that anymore. I got for where you honor me. This is a guess. No, that's not it. No, that's the big one. We can't use that anymore.

I got it. You honor me. There it is. No, so did you have sort of a, I think in the firearm industry, they call a leg holster to contain your shaft? No, I wear compression shorts, though. I see. To keep it in.

No, but you're naked in this particular shot we're talking about. No, no, no. I have on compression shorts and I have on boxer. Oh, I zoned out. I just pictured you naked. You were just looking for ass and dick, huh? Well, I don't want it, but it's nice to observe a girthy shaft in its natural habitat. Oh, my goodness.

Anyway, I'll stop there. Hey, so wait, Carlin, I forgot that Carlin and Turk really break up and like could be on the verge of ending their relationship. It got real. I forgot all of this, to be honest with you. And when Shay was talking about it, I was like, I don't remember that. And then the scene pops up where they're sitting by the grave at the end of the show and you know spoiler alert they don't get back together at the end of this episode either man like they're still kind of fucked up i really didn't remember that um that that obviously it was wise as a showrunner to

create drama and so the audience is concerned, but I, I, I didn't remember it at all that you guys are literally like living in separate houses and talking about not getting back together. Has there ever been a show where the main characters on the show or the loved, the characters who are in love with each other get divorced? Oh,

I'm sure. Like they threatened it on blackish, but it didn't happen. Like, they threatened it on Black-ish, but it didn't happen. Like, is there a show where it starts off where everything's, you know, awesome, and then four seasons in, they're like, let's get divorced? I don't know. Joelle, are you looking that up? Oh, yeah. I think in Will and Grace, Grace gets divorced.

Yeah, but Grace isn't married to Will. You know what I mean? Grace is married to. So the isn't married to Will. You know what I mean? Grace is married to... So the two main characters. Yeah, you know what I mean? I don't think it happens. I don't think it's ever happened. I don't know.

But William of Van Duser Lawrence clearly wanted to create some season four drama. By the way, we're going so fast. Hey, you'll love this. It's 420. This is episode 420. Right on. We're going so fast.

Yeah. I mean, even though we slowed down to one a week, it feels like this is flying by. We really got to get our posts. We're almost halfway there. Yeah, we got to get our post scrubs plans in order. We do need to get that in order. How's your water drinking coming? I see you sipping.

Yeah, I'm supposed to. Now I moved on to a gallon a day. You were not at a gallon a day? No, I'm supposed to – now I moved on to a gallon a day. You were not at a gallon a day? No, I was at – this thing that I drink out of is two gallons. That's two gallons right there? Sorry, I misspoke. This thing right here is two liters. So I have this scene where I'm shirtless and I'd like to look my best, right?

Because if you're going to broadcast yourself to earth, you want to look your best. Hold on one second, man. You've been drinking only two liters a day. I went straight full gallon a day from the gate and I was pissing like a racehorse. The problem is that pissing becomes sort of a very large part of your day. Right. I got to plan on when I'm drinking this thing. You got to, I got a plan. Yeah. You got to plan when I'm drinking. You got to plan when you got to drive somewhere, you got to plan like good things. I'm not going to the movie theater.

Cause you couldn't go to the movie theater. You're not watching the movie. You're not watching the movie. You're spending most of your time in the bathroom looking at. I know I'm not going to be doing a gallon a day when I'm not gearing up to, but that's so healthy for you. Why not? Well,

two liters is one thing. A gallon is like, is I think, I think I could shift one step back a gallon yeah i feel great so for what it's worth i feel great but maybe my bladder will like expand that's what i'm thinking like the thing is you have to spread it out with the keep chugging or whatever the message is because when you do it that way you pee once and then you pee again later when you you drink – like I've made the mistake of being like, oh, man, I didn't make it to the end. And then drinking like a half a gallon of water and then going to bed and then getting up at one. I find if I put a little lemon in it, it makes it way more appealing because lemon water is delicious.

Like who doesn't like that? But just plain water is – I've gotten used to plain water. Really? Yeah. Now, Joel, we had talked about – every time I post about this water bottle with the inspirational things on it, fans are always in my Instagram like, where the hell did you get that?

And then, of course, I thought we should make, since Donald and I both use this, a Fake Doctors Real Friends one that can have the times on it and like you are deservant and eagle will be the last one. You made an eagle. That's what I'm talking about. Right. Right. Can we make that?

We're working on it. We are trying to figure out the best way to do it, but I think it's a great idea. Well, keep the world hydrated. That's one bottle at a time. Well, if there's one thing everybody listening has always heard from doctors or healthy people is that you got to drink a lot of water. And I've never done it. I've been so bad at it my whole life. And this bottle at least helps you because you're staring at it and you're like, come on, I don't want to fail.

It's 3 p.m. I'm not at the 3 p.m. line. Come on. Make it competitive. Did you laugh at, you know, well, how would you feel if your husband was on the phone talking to some other woman? I feel pretty bad, yeah, but mostly because I have a husband. Did you laugh at that? Yeah, that was funny.

I laughed at a lot of stuff. Now, what about when you go, don't mention the carnival? And I'm like, what? Because it reminds me of Carla. Remove the niv. And I'm like, what? Because it reminds me of Carla. Remove the niv. And switch the L and the A. And then you see JD like fuck with the letters on screen. That was so funny.

But then we still went to the carnival. I know. I just laughed at remove the niv. Like Turk had already done the breakdown of the word to figure out how to turn carnival into Carla you know I knew Elliot was a nervous pooper but I didn't know she was that much of a nervous pooper

I don't like this either I do not want to talk to anyone I've mentioned this before I don't like talking if I'm in a public stall and someone else is pooing I can't poo can you sit down in a public stall and someone else is pooing, I can't poo. Oh.

Can you sit down in a public bathroom? Dude, you know me. Let me finish. With three quarters of an inch of metal between you and the other person's like. We had this conversation, dude. All right. Well, some people haven't heard every episode. Can you do that? I can't do that. No, listen to conversation, dude. All right. Well, some people haven't heard every episode. Can you do that? I can't do that.

No, listen to me, man. I'm the man that we could be online at the movie theater to see Star Wars. Oh, you go home to poo. I forgot, yeah. I will go home and poo. And it all stems from when I was doing this commercial and this dude's dad was in the bathroom and was going, Oh, God, fuck my butt. Why?

Why? Why? You know it's bad when someone screams why? Here comes the corn. Oh, God. Have you ever screamed why while having a bowel movement? That's not good. Oh, no.

Why? No. Yeah, listen. And listen, I have. A curly or a letter J. As long as it's a deuce. I have, and I was so dehydrated that it was like that thing was stuck at the exit. Okay.

We can stop there, Joelle, for Joelle's cringing. Thank you so much. But wait, I want to say one more thing. So what I do if I have to go to the public bathroom is I first, and it's multiple stalls, I have to do the duck to see if there's other feet. If there's other feet, I'm out. Oh, you get close to the floor? You get close to the floor like that, huh?

I don't lie down. I bend over, see if there's other feet. If there's anyone else, I'm out. I got to wait. Okay, so if you've got to poo. Or find another bathroom. And if you've got to poo real bad, that's a wrap? You're just going to just shit yourself?

What do you do? I find another bathroom in that building, or I um if you're at the movie theater what are you gonna do i've never pooted a movie theater oh okay uh i'm talking about like you know you have a poot at a restaurant i don't think i pooted a restaurant mostly it's like these examples i mean like i'm let's say i'm working i'm i'm editing a show and i'm in some big post-production facility and you're at warn Warner Brothers or you're at – Yeah, or like when we're on movies, you have a trailer. You at least have a trailer with your own toilet.

But I don't know. I don't think I've ever pooed at a restaurant. Although on my birthday, I had a birthday. Do you remember this? Were you there? My 40th birthday. No, I wasn't at your 40 i was at your 41st nobody was at your 40th birthday yeah they had this is what happened you came you got sick that's right so i i arranged to have 20 25 people at a dinner at a very fancy restaurant catch in

new york in new york and i um i don't know if you ever got food poisoning, listener, or you too, but all of a sudden, as I was all dressed up, people had flown in. It was going to be a big – it was my 40th birthday. It was a big deal. And as I'm setting out the name cards on the table, I started to feel that rumble. You know that rumble where you're like, oh, no. And I didn't have any booze in me or anything. It was just something I ate. And I'm setting out the fucking name cards where you're like, oh, no. And I didn't have any booze in me or anything. It was just something I ate.

And I'm setting out the fucking name cards around the table, like making sure the seating arrangement is right. You probably had DeBarge's Rhythm of the Night in your head. To the beat of the rhythm of the night. It's my birthday night. Yes, I had a little bop in my step. And then I'm like, oh, no. So then I run. I start to feel I'm going puke guests haven't arrived yet and this is a fancy restaurant in new york in in meat packing district

called catch and um and i go now i run to the bathroom the bathroom because it's a party place has an attendant that's to make sure that people don't, I guess, do drugs or have sex or whatever. It's meant to – the attendant in the bathroom, I assume, is meant – people think, oh, it's a fancy place. The guy is going to give me a mint and hand me paper towels. And I got to give him a dollar. Yeah, I think he's really there to make sure no one does drugs or fucks against the sink. Or if he's smart about it, he's a motherfucking drug dealer and he's like, I got that shit. Go in the stall.

Okay. Maybe cut that out. No, you can leave that. Everyone likes to hear how Donald would hustle as a bathroom attendant. If I was a bathroom attendant. So anyway, so the stall has also been adjusted at this restaurant so that it doesn't go anywhere near the floor again for the same reasons they don't want people congregating in there together there's only one stall it's probably the bottom of the door is probably three feet off the ground i don't know what the fucking stall door is blocking but i have to puke so i'm down on my knees and i'm trying to

fucking get this puke out because i'm like in my mind mind, I'm like, if I just puke, get this out, no harm, no foul. I'll go back to my 40th birthday party. And then a guy comes into the bathroom behind me because it's, you know, a multiple thing. And he says to the bathroom attendant, pointing at me. I can hear him, see him pointing at my legs because everyone can see me. It's a high stall door. And he goes really loudly.

So I can hear he goes, wow, already? Meaning it's only like 8.30. Why are you puking already? Rude. And now mind you, I have nothing in my body. And I'm not like drunk or anything. So I'm like, I can't get up, can't get up. I tip the guy like 20 bucks.

I'm like, I'm so sorry, but I'm probably going to be back to puke. I don't feel well. And he's like, okay. And so, but I'm probably going to be back to puke. Um, I don't feel well. And he's like, okay. And so do you want to buy some blow? No, I'm just kidding. So I go back to the table,

all the guests arriving, I'm smiling at everyone. I'm like, Oh my God, this is really bad. This is really bad. This is really bad. And everyone's sitting down and I,

I run out the door. I'm like, fuck that bathroom. I'm just going to go puke on the street. So I run down to the street, and there's a dumpster across the street. I start puking, like fire hose, like stand by me, fire hose puking. Straight up projectile vomit. Yeah, and of course, people are passing me on the street being like,

oh, my God, this guy. Again, same attitude, like, little early, buddy, that kind of thing. Everyone thinks I'm hammered, but I'm stone cold sober food poisoning. And every time I puke, I won't tell you the whole story, but there's like 15 more times. I keep thinking this will be the time where it's over and I've gotten it out of my face. You did the dealer slap and push away. Yeah. The dealer clap and push away from the table.

Yeah. Now, I've already paid for this dinner everyone's here now the good news is when i went back everyone i could see everyone like you would you they think i'm they think i'm around socializing with other people no one's thinking about me they're all getting drunk they're all eating sushi they're all talking to each other and finally i go to my mom was like it was one of those moments where even though you're 40 you need your mom and i'm like mom what the fuck I probably didn't say fuck to my mom. Mom, what the heck am I supposed to do? Like, what am I supposed to do in this scenario? I'm puking at dumpsters outside. And she goes, you have to go

home. And I was like, you're right. I'm in a French exit. Don't tell anyone. Or if they ask, you can tell them at the end. So I grabbed my coat and I left and everyone had a great time at my birthday and I paid the bill. Wow. That's very nice of you to pay that bill, buddy. Oh, are you kidding me? Come on. They all came to my big birthday party and I was incapacitated. The next year was the year.

Well, I rationalized the next year being like, this is going to be my 40th birthday. That's a mulligan. Is that what you say? Yeah. Yes. This is going to be my 40th birthday. That's a mulligan? Is that what you say?

Yeah. Yes. I'm going to take a mulligan, and we're going to go to Mexico and go all out. And then we did. And that's when Donald infamously got woozy. That was when I got woozy, yeah. My brother Josh is in town, and we were laughing about you getting woozy. Yeah. Nothing makes him laugh harder than you going, I was woozy.

laugh harder than you going, I was woozy. Yeah, you know, I'm glad it didn't come out both ends because that would have been really embarrassing, dude. Yeah. It was horrible. It was horrible. I mean, if you've ever had food, I'm assuming it was food poisoning. Trust me, it wasn't from Catch, which is an incredible restaurant. It had happened during, because I didn't even have a bite of Catch.

It happened at some other restaurant or something. I wonder how Elliot would deal with this problem then. You know what I mean? Like that is a – that's one of those moments where if she can't poo, if she's a nervous pooer, if you're a nervous pooer, I guess you'd have to project she would just throw up on everybody. Elliot decides, tells Carla that if she cannot handle the no talking on the toilet rules, she's going to have to move out.

Yeah. Not only that, if she brings it up that she talked on the toilet, that she was on the toilet talking to her, she won't poo for another two weeks. I wonder if Sarah really has this conundrum. I'm sure Sarah's a nervous pooer.

Do you think Sarah's a nervous pooer? I believe Sarah's a nervous pooer. I don't think, like, I feel like this is based on her character. My brother said the same thing. My brother was laughing. He goes, this must really be her. Yeah. I feel like it's based on her.

We should have an Ask Sarah segment. That would be great. can we do that sarah are you really a nervous poor do you your character in this episode um really really cannot talk even through the door if someone's asking them a question she can't even talk about it like after days after at work she can't talk about it sarah the the audience want to know, all over the world they want to know, do you have this problem with your anus? So am I a nervous poo-er? I think the answer is going to surprise you because it doesn't really go with my personality. I think you're going to bet that I am a nervous poo-er, but I'm actually not a nervous poo-er. And I think that that comes from when I was a kid, we did a lot of camping, like not just car camping, but, you know, hiking overnight in the woods camping. So I have like a very high comfort level with it.

Also with talking about it, discussing it. I would say I'm more of a grateful pooer, you know, just grateful that it's, you know, everything's working out. Thank you, Sarah. Thank you, Sarah, for talking about your bowel movement. We should go to break, buddy. Let's go to break. We'll be right back. Hi, this is Shannon Doherty,

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or wherever you get your podcasts. We watch your with Zach and Donald. And we're back. And we're back. What is, oh, we laughed out loud when we were in the bouncy castle. My tummy's starting to rumble. Speaking of nervous pooing. Yeah.

So I take you to the carnival. We still go. I can't believe, and it's just the bouncy house. Yeah, we really, really must have ran out of money by episode 20 of season four when the carnival was represented by a bouncy castle. Yeah. Bill must have spent that money elsewhere we should talk about ken jenkins and the calso storyline and how great it was and how great he was yeah and it um it's always so refreshing when bill gives ken more levels to play than just the grumpy boss because he's such a good actor, Ken, that he just delivers.

And, you know, this was one of those episodes where he really got to do a lot with not only taking on a patient but also his sort of old man camaraderie with Johnny C, you know, talking about how medicine used to be and how he was feeling, how doctors, I imagine this came from real doctors saying we feel disrespected in some ways. Now the advent of phones and the Internet, everyone thinks they know more than us. And we used to have a level of respect in society that we don't get from everybody these days anymore. Well, doctors also used to, it used to be a job that was, it was like if you were a doctor, you were like – you were a leader in the community.

You know, you were – there were so many things. And wealthy. Yeah, there were so many great things about being a doctor. I think you're still a leader in the community, and I do – I personally think you're still respected. But I'm sure they would say we don't make anywhere the money we used to make. And we have to go to school for fucking eight years. You know, I would hope that people would look to doctors and to be leaders in the community. I don't know that I would. You know, if my next door neighbor could be a doctor, I don't, you know, I'm not going to him.

When you come across someone who's a medical doctor don't you doesn't your i have i have the trigger of amount of respect for them i have the utmost respect for him but a lot of it has to do with the fact that i played a doctor on television you know what i mean a lot of it has to do with knowing what they go through and how stressful the job is you know but in our society if someone's like if someone you meet someone and they're dating someone new and you go what does he do? What does he or she do? They go, oh, she's a doctor. You're like, oh.

That's still a natural reaction. Right. And then you find out that they ain't making no money. And then you're like, oh. You find out they're a chiropractor. And you're like, oof. Or you find out they're a dermatologist. I'm just kidding.

I love chiropractors. Or you find out they're a dermatologist. That was so funny. That was very funny. That wasn't me. I didn't even hit it, Daniel. Sure you didn't. It's got a mind of its own. That was very funny with the

dermatologist running down the hall. Move! Get out of my way! Get out of my way! And then his diagnosis at the end was like, ooh, yeah, your skin looks bad. Yeah. Yeah. That was really funny. And then,

and then, and then, uh, cock says you look like a purse. Yeah. Because the guy was so sunburned and fucked is fucked up his face with melanoma. That was,

that was very, very, um, now let's talk about the most important thing that happens in this episode of all time. The introduction of hooch. Well, it's not the introduction,

but it's the, it's the us finding out this is the first time you say Hooch is crazy. Wait, I have a question. Hooch was in another episode? Hooch is in an episode with Tom Hanks' brother. That already happened? No. Did it not happen yet?

No. Okay, so yeah, I guess this is the introduction of Hooch. This is the introduction of Hooch. I know that should be a fact because I double-checked Scrubs Wiki. Okay, well, I'm going to say this then. Go ahead. Turk and JD egged Hooch. I know that should be a fact because I double-checked Scrubs Wiki. Okay, well, I'm going to say this then. Go ahead. Turk and JD egged Hooch on. Turk and JD made Hooch crazy. No, I disagree.

We made him crazy! No, sir. You can't make someone crazy like that. We didn't know what we were messing with. We messed with the bull, and we got the horns. Many episodes later. We just assumed that he was sort of laughing along with us.

He was not fucking coming to play. It's okay, JD. It's okay, JD. It's okay, Turk. It happens all the time. You could have said beer instead of hooch, though. The best part about that is I want the audience listening to go back and watch this moment where phil lewis the fucking hilarious phil lewis the genius the comic genius did you see what he does on the on the counter he does a little

little double tap he's so livid did you catch that joelle he's so livid he's so livid and he's holding all his fucking rage in and he comes when we guys when we said let's have some hooch or whatever we say and he comes in it's in the it's in the lobby and he's holding all his fucking rage in. When we said, let's have some hooch or whatever we say. And he comes in. It's in the lobby, and he's through the little window to the hallway. And he goes, it just feels like, I don't know where he does it, but he puts a little, in the pause, he just feels like, could have said something else. There's something about it I find so funny.

His rage is going through his whole body, and all he can do to hold it in is just do a little counter-tap. Right. Like it alleviates the rage just a little bit. Just tapping it down. Yeah, he's tapping it down. It just lets a little bit of the rage come out through his fingers. But, dude, Ahoj is fucking keeping that rage in and we think oh

it's fun to mess with hooch but we don't know what's gonna come out of it well you say it yourself after you get elliot to do it just say no but i only i'm still saying it in a joking way dude i'm still like crazy that's called that is the long game dude yeah that is the long game, dude. That is the long game. Bill and the writers were playing the long game on this joke because the payoff doesn't come from many, many, many, many episodes. Yeah. Well, you know what happens is that – and this is a lesson to you actors out there. You could come on to a show.

I mean Phil was a known actor, but you could come on to a show with two sentences. And if you do something that's funny or great, people start, the writers start to write for you. I mean, let's just have him back. Let's keep going. And Phil obviously wasn't an unknown actor, but he was so fucking funny as this character that Bill just kept writing for him, kept putting him on. And then obviously, as you all know, he became a fan favorite. And, you know, Hooch is Crazy is something that gets said to me several times a month.

I'm sure when Phil meets people, I'm sure he's heard that before. Oh, yeah. And No Running in My Lobby, apparently, from Zach and Cody, Suite Life of Zach and Cody. I guess he was the hotel manager, Joel? He was. Yeah, he was. He was a concierge. I think he was a manager, if? Yeah he was I think he was the manager

If memory serves it's been a minute But yeah he was definitely Were you young enough to watch that show Joel? I was like just above the age But I was still watching a lot of Disney cartoons So occasionally I would Catch a clip or a moment That's like when Saved by the Bell came out

I was a little too old to be watching Saved by the Bell But's like when Saved by the Bell came out. I was a little too old to be watching Saved by the Bell, but I still watch Saved by the Bell. Sometimes you catch yourself watching some kids' show. I don't think there's a show meant for young people that I watched into adulthood. Really?

I don't know. I can't think of one. I mean, American Idol, I guess I watch sometimes. That's not for young people. That's meant for everybody. That's for everybody. The janitor's a drunk, dude. Holy cow. I don't know if he's... There are a lot of jokes about him being a covert alcoholic.

Wow. He's really drunk in this episode. Yeah, he didn't have much to do. I don't think he had much of a laugh. He just had to be drunk at work. Right. Well, he had to do voiceover yeah that was weird too so what happened was i tap him and he starts voiceover and i turned to my brother because i was reminding him i go oh you know once a season i pass the voiceover around this must be the janitor's episode and then it wasn't he just did all of a sudden bill sort of broke his own rules and gave the janitor like a few lines of voiceover.

Right. That scene. And then the scene later when he's in the hallway with Kelso, it really bothered me that Kelso can't get the door open. Right. And you see clearly that he's not pushing the handle that would open the door. Right.

It's not even trying it. And then he adds a line like, how did she lodge this door closed? And then we cut inside. There's clearly nothing blocking the door. Right? And then he uses the screwdriver. Well, then he uses the screwdriver, right?

But I didn't think the hinges are on that side of the door. Right. So then later on, the door has obviously been repaired. And he busts it open like he's the Hulk again without a screwdriver. Right. He just wanted to make an entrance. That was very funny. And then his speech at the end was,

you know, to this day, it's one of the best lines. I don't want to butcher it. What does he say? Anything... Nothing worth having comes easy. Right. Which is the lesson of the show. And very, very useful advice to everybody on everything, anything you want.

It's not going to come easy. I didn't know Google was around back then. Yeah. I remember Ask Jeeves. You remember that? Yeah. Ask Jeeves. She has an early smartphone.

Because if you look at the show, all of us are really using flip phones still. She has sort of like a Palm Pilot, the character that Kelsey was dealing with. She has sort of a Palm Pilot. Yeah, I found that very, very – I just didn't know that we had Google like that back then. I remember Yahoo. I remember – I didn't know Google was – I don't know. Joel, what year – Google launched in 1998, September 4th, 1998.

What year did the iPhone come out? 2007. 2007. So we're nowhere near the iPhone coming out yet. What were people using at this time? Well, we had flip phones. And then the woman in this episode clearly has some internet phone because she's using her little stylus. It must have been a Palm Pilot, I'm guessing.

But Wi-Fi was around like that? Or she's on – you know what I mean? I don't know. How did Palm Pilot work, Daniel? You're the tech whiz. Thank you very much. They could receive internet through either Wi-Fi or – But I'm pretty sure at this point everything was hardwired into the wall

right like you had an ethernet and no we've had wi-fi for a long time we've had wi-fi for a long time oh i just didn't get hip to it until after scrubs i guess well you probably didn't have dsl you maybe had a modem yeah that's what i you know and you i don't know i don't know. I don't know either, to be honest, which I just found this very interesting. I was like, wow, my remembrance of technology is way off. Who says, Nurse Roberts says she Googled. She Googled your ass. Yeah, was that Nurse Roberts who said that? Yeah.

And then he goes, Nurse Roberts, I'm not into your street lingo. that yeah and then he goes i'm not nurse roberts i don't i'm not into your street lingo he's never heard of google no that's neither did i at this point i'm sure of it anyway uh what about when sarah when judy speaking spanish and sarah cracks up and she goes you know what i'm saying she goes no I just know when to laugh in any language. We looked good doing that cocktails thing. We looked good. My brother was like, you, what, did you train for that? We did rehearse.

We rehearsed. I know we rehearsed, but why did we look so good? I don't know. We looked good. Yeah, we did. Yeah, we did. We looked like we were having a blast. That looked like a fun party to be at. I wanted to be at that party. So did I. At that moment in time, I was like, wow, look Yeah, we did. We looked like we were having a blast. That looked like a fun party to be at. I wanted to be at that party.

So did I. At that moment in time, I was like, wow, look at all the ladies. And look at Turk and JD. We were like in Cocktail, like that Tom Cruise movie. Yeah. I even did the spin with the bottle opener. Yeah. That was fun.

And then we were like, stay here and drink for Carla. Right. was fun and then and then we were like stay here and drink for Carla so then I said Turk has a hang oh even though I had a hangover that would slay a walrus oh man um yeah so you're so hung over that I think you've missed your your meeting with Carla, but you've actually slept through it on purpose. And it turns out he just didn't want to go. Yeah. Why? Because he was having so much fun with JD,

and he felt like it, you know, it all, you know, when the fight gets real, are you somebody who's going to dig in and punch back, or are you going to run? You know, and it seems like at this moment in time, Turk's a runner. Yeah. Well, I think he has some sort of drunken epiphany because he decides like, no, I'm not going to be the one that's like begging to get back anymore.

I got to get out of the fetal position. If you don't want to be in this, then you don't want to be in this then you don't want to be in this but it's not even being in the fetal position he doesn't even want to try anymore it's like i'm not even going to try but then he does show up at the grave but that's after that's after kelso's speech yes what's going on you're right kelso kelso's advising the young lady young lady bypass about getting a gastro bypass. And then that's funny. When he means to be talking to her and then you settle up right next to her and like – I forgot what you say, but you say something like, go on. Right, pretty much. be taking on your weight or taking on a relationship problem or taking on your career goals whatever it

is um if it's worth having it's not gonna happen without work that's right it's all about the journey it's all about the journey did you notice um oh that's what you say i wrote it down you go what if it's too hard yeah what if it is too hard? Yeah. What if it is too hard? Did you notice a little, John Inwood directed this episode who was our cinematographer for eight seasons of Scrubs. And I don't know if it was John or Carrie Bennett, our wardrobe designer, but there's an interesting thing they did with the wardrobe of you two at the grave. You're in, you're in the exact same colors.

I didn't recognize that. Your outfits aren't matching obviously, but you're in the grave. You're in the exact same colors. I didn't recognize that. Your outfits aren't matching, obviously, but your clothing items are the exact same shade, just like her shirt is your sweatshirt or something like that. To signify that you're meant to be together. Well, yeah, that they're going to be all right, that there's still unity in the two of them, whether they know it or not.

Right. They still have a, they're still one, as you would hope to be. But didn't you think that was a creative choice to make them, even though they are separated, they are still one in little subtle things. The audience might not even notice it, but I happen to notice it. That's awesome. How about Sarah stuck in the grave? That was awesome. How about Sarah stuck in the grave? That was hilarious.

And she was stuck in the grave all night. She's like, well, it can't get any worse. And then the thunder. Now, someone said on Scrubs Wiki that they thought that might be a reference to young Frankenstein because apparently in young Frankenstein, there's a joke. I'm going to read it off Skrozoki. A possible reference to young Frankenstein when Dr.

Frankenstein and Igor are digging a grave and Igor says, could be worse, could be raining before hearing thunder. Yeah. Oh, when we say tokers, smokers, and jokers. That's the lyrics to... I'm a toker. Yes. I'm a smoker. That's Steve Millerman. Woo!

Some people call me the space cowboy. Some call me the gangster of love. Some people call me Maurice. You know that song? Yeah, I'm a toker. I'm a smoker. I'm a midnight. Whatever the fuck he says.

No, it's midnight toker. I'm a joker. I'm a smoker. I'm a midnight, whatever the fuck he says. No, it's Midnight Toker. I'm a joker. I'm a smoker. I'm a midnight toker. Playing my music in the sun, right? Yep. If you don't know the Joker, you got to listen to it. It's an old school jam.

I was going to say this. We jumped so far ahead but in the beginning when the young lady is delusional because she's been at work for so long yeah that was funny and at the end of it she has popcorn yeah did you laugh at that i laughed out loud how does she have popcorn how does she have popcorn that made me laugh yeah she's so delusional she's like i'd like two tickets to i forgot what movie million dollar baby she went to see million dollar baby she was oh my god line of the cafeteria the crazy the crazy thing about hospitals is that they they work these poor people so hard and then they're meant to be like saving lives.

She's like hallucinating. She hasn't slept in so long. Right. She's at the cafeteria buying theater tickets. And then she's got a big tub of popcorn. How did she get popcorn? Joelle, do we have a guest today? We do have a guest, yes.

Is the person here? They're here? All right, why don't we take a break? When we come back, we have an interesting guest that Donald knows today. Sean McBee is in the house, y'all. I want to also mention that next week we have the two directors of Seaspiracy on. So you're going to want to make sure that betwixt now and next Tuesday, you watch Seaspiracy because then you'll really be able to participate in the discussion. I'm very excited about that.

It's a fancy guess. Also, when this show airs, you know what day it is. What? May the 4th be with you. Oh, shoot. So should we act like it's May the 4th and say happy May the 4th to you, Donald and Joelle? I mean, you could say it, but, you know, I'm going to say it again on May the 4th and say happy may the 4th to you donald and joelle i mean you could say it but you know i'm gonna say it again on may the 4th yeah but we're not gonna be recording a podcast

i know but i'm gonna dedicate my instagram but i will what are you gonna do for may the 4th work you have work yeah man it's a freak it's not a national holiday shit it's just it should be nerds hot it's just the nerds holiday. It's just the nerds holiday. Yeah, but I'm saying, what are you going to do to celebrate May 4th? I'm probably going to buy a lot of Star Wars shit, dude, like you always do on May the 4th. Okay, Joelle, what are your plans? Well, I'm going to be gearing up for the new animated series that's coming out.

Oh, that's right. Bad B batch comes out that day and it's gonna be like an hour and a half freaking premiere i can't wait yeah so i'm gonna just be diving deep into the clone wars talk i have all of the books i'll probably be doing some reading just love it on star wars donald did you see uh that disneyland is reopened uh at partial capacity i thought you'd be excited about that. I am excited about it. I, you know,

we're trying to figure that out now. Disneyland. Are you going to go? Are you going to be one of the people that is an early adopter of returning to theme parks? Yeah, man, that's, listen,

I don't know. I'm vaccinated. Right. And my wife's vaccinated. Right. And in California, as a matter of fact, across America, I'm vaccinated. Right. And my wife's vaccinated. Right. And in California, as a matter of fact, across America, the CDC says you can walk outside without masks on as long as you're not in a crowded place. And so if it's crowded, I'm sure they have rules. I think it's required to wear a mask at all times.

It is, and they're only at 30% capacity for the foreseeable future. I'm sure they have rules. I think it's required to wear a mask at all times. That's cool. It is, and they're only at 30% capacity for the foreseeable future. That's cool in the game, too. You must be excited to return. Now, are there Star Wars rides that you haven't been on that might be newly open? I've been on everything. I haven't been to the new Star Wars land yet, and I need to go. I'm ready.

In that area where they do that little show when the people come out in costume and they engage with the fans, do you talk to them? Are you like, Stormtrooper, I want to talk to you. That's the thing. The Stormtroopers come up to you. Right. Let me see ID. The great, the awesome thing about, what is it the what's the name of the galaxy's edge is that it is interactive and you choose a side when you get there it's like you're either you're

either uh new republic or or your first order and if you're new republic uh there are people that interact with you if you're first order there are people that interact with you if you're first order there are people that interact with you and it's an adventure and you fly the Millennium Falcon and you go on this real dope ride that is like the

what's happening over there I just want to be there so bad it's really I'm going to say this the The ride itself is like Small World, but the interaction. Yeah, well, it's like you're sitting in a. That's not really a good advertisement for the ride. No, because look, Small World is fucking awesome, dude. In the world of Small World is awesome.

Y'all don't like Small World? I liked it as a kid. It's like, oh, we have to come to see Small World. But as an adult, I skip Small World? I liked it as a kid. It's like, oh, we have to come and see Small World. But as an adult, I skip Small World. Not at all. I get on Small World every time. Look, so... Well, you have little kids.

If I had little kids, I would. But I go with adults. I'm not going on Small World. So you're literally being... I don't want to give it away to the fans. I was going to say, I almost want to pause this because I feel like we're about to enter spoiler territory for this experience. Yeah, I don't want to give it away to the fans. I was going to say, I almost want to pause this because I feel like we're about to enter spoiler territory for this experience. Yeah, I don't want to give it away to the fans. I didn't know that rides had spoilers.

This is one of those rides. This one's particularly special. This one has, you know, this one has, it's like you're in a movie, dude. I'll leave it at that. I haven't been to that one because it wasn't open when I went. But I went on the one where you feel like you're flying around, and it really made me nauseous. Did you fly to Millennium Falcon? No.

Yes. I'm sorry. You got on Star Tours. You're talking Star Tours. Yeah. What's the one that's basically you're watching a movie? Star Tours. You're talking Star Tours.

Star Tours. We should be done with those kinds of rides. No, because they redid that one also. Look, Star Tours is fire also. But you fly to Millennium Falcon, dude, and you literally fly the Millennium Falcon. And everybody has a purpose. Only one person gets to. No.

No, Zach. No. I was tasked with hitting buttons that didn't do anything. Yeah, you do. Listen, man. If you listen. Okay. How worked up he's getting.

The higher your score is. You are getting so worked up he's getting the higher your score is if you get the co if you i've i've gotten a couple of canisters of coaxium right and if you get the you go into the cantina and they freaking give you love they're like yo i heard your uh i heard your coaxium run was whatever, whatever. And you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, no doubt. No doubt. What?

Oh, my God. Dude, it's amazing. It's amazing. You can build droids. You build lightsabers. Dude. I saw this video of this guy. They got a shop where they got a baby Sarlacc in it. Man, there's a baby Sarlacc.

A baby Sarlacc. I saw the girl who plays Rey walking around, and some guy was trying to flirt with her. It was so cringy. It was almost cringy. Because this poor girl, it's one thing to be in a Stormtrooper outfit, but she's dressed as the beautiful Rey, and this guy's trying to talk her up, and she's like,

I've got to be going. Back to my ship now. I was like, this girl has the worst job in Hollywood. It's some of the best motion control characters I've ever seen in my life. In my life. You're talking about the ride I haven't been on because the one I was on, I did not like. And then I went to the Star Wars bar.

It looks like it's a real thing. It looks like the bar is amazing too. The drinks are great. The design of the bar is beautiful. Yes. So I was lucky enough at one point to be in the Star Wars camp, and then I blew it by being me and rebelling against certain things. But I was in the Star Wars camp, and I got to go behind the scenes

and see all of this stuff before it was made, and it was one of the most amazing things I've ever been a part of in my life. I was one of the first people to ever fly the Millennium Falcon. I'm going to put it out there. That's dope. That's dope. I think when you walk into that world and you see the Millennium Falcon, it looks cool. But for me, it was kind of like, oh, but that new ride wasn't open yet. Yes, what were you going to say, Daniel? All I was going to say about this is there's a podcast I listen to called Podcast the Ride, where they talk about these things. And a terminology that I learned from that podcast is called ride system. And a ride system is how you describe things like the chairs that you sit

in. So for example, if a ride has like a thing that you walk along, that is a ride system. If you think about like Haunted Mansion, where you sit in those little chairs, that is an individual ride system, a roller coaster where you strap yourself in, that is one ride system. This Star Wars ride is four separate ride systems in one ride, in one experience. So that is why I've been trying to spare myself the spoiler experience. Oh, Doug, I don't want to tell you what happens. No, thank you.

Don't, don't. I was trying, listen. I was trying to- It's too bad that I now have to tell you what happens. Now I you don't. It's too bad that I now have to tell you what happens. Now I got to do it. No, it's too late. You said you didn't want to know. I was trying to provide the spoiler. I was talking it down when I said it was Small World.

I was talking it down when I said it was Small World, buddy. I was not trying to make your expectations high. You're going to enjoy this Have they updated Skull World at all Or is this the same thing over and over again No it's a classic design By one of the most famous Imagineers ever

Leave that alone Pristine Oh man it's not my favorite ride It's really challenging to sit there and listen to the same song Over and over and over again But just from a design perspective and a historical perspective, I think it's important. You know, I think if you skip out on Small World,

you're skipping out on a great experience that has been around forever with Disneyland or Disney World. I'm just putting it out there. All right, there you go. We are going to take a break, and when we come back, we have a very interesting guest. We'll be right back. Hi, this is Shannon Doherty, host of the new podcast, Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty.

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Taking it off Please no No I mean I wouldn't show my junk to you guys If I were to wear a towel Let's bring in the guest Well the guest Should we have the guest opine If they think I should take off my wet suit

Sure we can ask Sean He's going to tell you to take it off though Sean will decide Ladies and gentlemen Boys and girls People Of all walks of life Please welcome Sean McPhee

Hey guys. Hi Sean. What up bro? How's everybody doing? How you doing? Why does it look like you have a more professional audio recording studio than we do and we have a successful podcast? I have two unsuccessful podcasts that I put way too much money into.

Dude, your setup looks amazing. Daniel, can you take a screenshot? I need all of that shit he has. No problem. We'll get it right over. Oh, my God. What podcast do you do? Yes, plug your podcast right off the bat, Sean.

All right, right off the bat. I've got one called Table Reads, where me and two guys funnier than me read scripts that never got made and sort of riff on them. That's good. It's, it's not like,

uh, aspirational scripts. It's like big budget money grab things like Joss Whedon's Wonder Woman. Uh, when you got a whole lot of scripts. Yeah. We read the scripts and we, uh,

we point out what's, what's terrible about them. Did, what about Tim Burton? Did you ever do Tim Burton's, uh, Superman? It's on the list

can you find how do you get these scripts how do you yeah oh there's places all over the internet and you know i work in the film industry so sometimes uh i get a little little side hook up here and there oh i see i know that vibe that is awesome my brother once once got, when Matrix first came out, it was his favorite movie. And someone hooked him up with Matrix Dailies. Wow. Which, for those of you who don't know, is the raw footage, just like not edited together. It's just like Keanu Reeves doing take after take of like waking up. And I remember I came in one day and my brother was just sitting there watching Matrix Dailies.

Just because he loved the movie so much. He just wanted to, he wanted more. I would watch. Yeah. You would watch star Wars daily. Donald. All of the cut scenes,

everything. Sean, what's, what else has gone? What else? What's your other podcast? Oh, I do a podcast about star girls called star girl after show.

Nice. And I worked on that one. So I figured, figured you know i'm friends with most of the cast so i may as well use that you know who's on star girl zach who a young lady by the name of amy smart oh really you might know her listener as a tasty coma wife she that is her show. She's on the CW. It's a Berlanti show. Yeah. The Justice Society is in it. So there's, you know, I don't know about the second season, but the first season they reintroduced a lot of really cool characters like Our Man and who was the original star?

Who was a star man originally? Was it Starman originally? Is that who it was? Yeah, it was Joel McHale. Joel McHale. Oh. Wait. Yep. Joel McHale's on this show as well?

Yes. Yes. Oh, I like Joel McHale. And Luke Wilson's on the show also. Wow. It's a dynamite cast. And who's Stargirl? A young actress named Breck Basinger.

She's super amazing. They do shoot in Atlanta. They shot it right across from the stage where we shot Powerpuff. Sean, I'm assuming that you are Atlanta-based, right? Yes, I am. And how did you... Now, are you a prop master? No, I'm a graphic designer.

Okay. So I design... what did you how did you and donald me tell everyone the backstory because i i only know that you gave us this incredible present that we want to talk about but i don't know how you guys worked together and what came about that's how we met yeah right but how did you how did you were you working on powerpuff girls yeah he's working on he's working on powerpuff. Let him tell it, Donald. So yeah, I was lucky enough to work on Powerpuff, and I was like the first person on the crew, like down below everybody that found out that Donald was going to be on the show

because I was helping put together the presentation for the network. And they're like, hey, you got to add a picture of Donald Faison to the professor page. And I was like, what? Okay. to the professor page and i was like oh what okay and so uh you know i i in covet i'd sort of fallen behind on this podcast and so donald's coming on the show and i'm like all right i gotta get caught up on this and i'm listening one day on my way to work and i hear Donald talking about how much he loves a care package and I'm like okay I'll put together a care package for this dude oh my god and the care package turned out to be one of the coolest things ever so we gotta we gotta get into this because

you said to me that the key and the button are actually functional. No, wait, before you get, you're going too fast. We need to remind some people where this started. Donald and I, on one of these episodes, talked about our love of the film War Games. Yes. And which is just, I remember it to be an amazing movie. I haven't seen it in a very long time. But one of the things that always stuck with me was the opening of the film, which is a bit of a prologue where two men who are the people in the nuclear silo that are – when they get the message from the president to launch the nuclear rocket missile, both have to turn their keys. And one of them turns it and the other guy is like panicking.

He's like, before I kill X amount of million people, I want to get someone to i want to get someone on the phone yeah i mean he's not doing what you're supposed to do he's not following the protocol because he doesn't want to launch the weapon and the other guy pulls out his firearm and he says turn your key sir turn your key turn your key sir yes and it's a really powerful opening you learn later that it was a drill to see if human beings could pass the test to launch a weapon that would kill millions and millions of people, and they obviously failed, and they decided to make it computerized, which is the beginning of the movie.

So on our show, we jokingly say when we want to, like, what is it, for thunderous applause, or what is it, for anything, we're just like, I want you to turn your key. Turn your key, Zach, right? Turn your key, your key zach right turn your key sir yes and so sean made an actual mechanism that looks like okay i didn't i didn't make them you're giving me too much credit there yes but i was like i bet something like that exists out there and i did some searching and i found some and And so I got you these big red buttons that unlock with a key and put turn your key on there. I left off the sir because I didn't want to leave Joelle out. Oh, God, you're a thoughtful man.

Well, first of all, I love that you're spending money on Donald with a care package. It's very thoughtful of you. Dude, there was a lightsaber in there. There was also a lightsaber, Sean did you get the lightsaber lightsaber that was handed down from his father which he then gave to ray was in the care package so um same one that was that was a lightsaber that um i had for a number of years and then i got my hands on a real graph flex uh flash tube you can see behind me right there yeah and made like a super super legit one for myself and so then uh i just i had this spare lightsaber for quite a while and i never found another man's it's not trash though

i was saving it to give it to someone special. There we go. Finally, that person came along. So why are you so nice, Sean? I mean, you seem like a very nice human being. Are you like this to lots of people in your life, or are you a Donald Faison mega fan? It's not just Donald Faison.

It's both of you guys. I've watched Scrubs so many times. The show's given me so much joy over the years um and here's an example i was you know getting ready for yet another rewatch uh when i heard about this podcast launching and so i started watching along with you guys but by the time you got to episode five i was finished with the whole thing. Wow. I just can't keep back. We gotta get you, but for the audience

who can't see, Sean has a beautiful glass case behind him. It looks like some treasured props from different films and TV shows. Am I right, Sean? Yeah, mostly replicas. Well, I feel like we need to get him something donald for his case i agree man well you know i'm trying to get back into lucasfilm if i could get

something from them i would send it your way uh if the show gets picked up if the show gets picked up you'll have all the swag you need from that end of things i'll sign whatever you want me to sign i know we gotta give him something worthy of his dope glass case though yeah i agree where do you look for replicas sean i mean i know there's on the internet and ebay right is that where you find stuff yeah i mean i've been parts of online groups that are just dedicated to this super nerdery um and i make a fair amount of them myself, like here. Is that the sculpture from Batman, the TV show, that behind you?

Yes, it is. Oh, my God. Aren't you impressed, Donald? I pulled that out. Does it have a button when you lift up the head? It does, yeah. Oh, my God. Is it Shakespeare? It is.

It is. Oh, wow. Donald, I thought you'd be impressed that I got all three of those. I mean, I'm impressed. Well done. Pulled that out. Holy shit. Oh, wow. I'm impressed that I got all three of those. I'm impressed. Well done. Pulled that out. Holy shit.

A working puppet of Tom Servo from Mystery Science Theater 3000. Oh, my gosh. That is. That is dope. It's a working puppet. Yeah. Lights up and everything. And there's a Green Lantern thing? No, he doesn't light up.

There's a Green Lantern thing. There's a little mountain. Right? Is that Green Lantern? Green Lantern power battery. Wow. Mojo Jojo helmet that I made and designed myself. What. Mojo Jojo helmet that I made and designed myself.

What's Mojo Jojo? From Powerpuff Girls. Mojo Jojo is the bad guy from Powerpuff Girls. No spoilers, guys. They better fucking pick up this show. I'm going to call Berlanti right now. Call him.

Call him and Sarah. Hey, Sean. seems unlikely that it wouldn't get picked up, right? Sean, let's not jinx it, baby. Knock on something that's wooden. Well, Sean is very dialed in.

It seems to me to the, to the Greg Berlanti, uh, Atlanta universe. Are you Sean? Well, I mean, I've worked on two Berlanti shows now.

Do you feel, um, did you feel a good vibe, um, on this show that it had a shot? Cause I do. And I'm just saying that cause I love Donald, but I feel like it was a good vibe.

Yeah. I mean, I don't, I don't think that people really say no to Greg Berlanti and we have an Academy award winning screenwriter as our writer and showrunner. Yeah. Greg Berlanti is kind of like the spielberg of cw he's like you know no it's more than a cw man it's more than a cw i'm not minimizing it by cw but he

has a show on every network cw he has a show on every network pretty much maybe not abc right now but there's he has something somewhere somehow i wonder if it's his Northwestern education. You know, they say Northwestern is the Harvard of the Midwest. They do, and I'm not just the only one who says that. I bet you Greg Berlanti says that himself. I worked, one of the first student films I ever worked on was written by Greg Berlanti at Northwestern.

One of the first movies you ever starred in was directed and written by Greg Berlanti as well. Yes, and we had the same acting teacher named David Downs and um he came on the show didn't he yes and he's uh he has spoken of him because in the wizard of oz episode he's the man that is losing uh whose son is ill right yes and you have a great scene with him yes that was really awesome too there you go that's that's your six degrees of greg Berlanti for you. Well, I mean, it's not very hard.

He's everywhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you think his most successful popular show is on CW? Riverdale, is that his? Probably Flash. Oh, just Flash. Flash or Arrow. the flash the flash yeah flash or arrow um he also had like uh he's the green lanterns coming out that's the next one i think that's on hbo max max yeah he's got a bunch of shows on hbo max actually uh from titans to doom

uh patrol to now the green lantern show like g Greg is, I'm sorry, Mr. Berlanti is really crushing it. I think you're allowed to call him Greg. Sean, did you always work in film or how did you get into the business? I'm sure people who like graphic design and who might want to do what you do, how did you do it? So I sort of stumbled and fell into it. My wife had gone to art school in Atlanta, and we lived in Florida.

She wanted to move here. And, you know, I've been into replicating props and stuff forever, and this show Constantine came out on NBC. Another Berlanti show. Yeah. And, uh, there was this weird like art Deco record on it that played the devil's

voice. And I redesigned the, or recreated the, you know, art for it. And then I actually like had it pressed into a record that played the sounds and everything. And I put it on Twitter and I tagged the production designer for the show.

And he liked it. We got talking on Twitter. When my wife and I came up for a four-day trip to Atlanta to look at neighborhoods to maybe move to, he said, well, stop by the studio. He had just lost his graphic designer and he hired me on the spot to be his graphic designer. Wow. Whoa. But you made that happen i mean that's the lesson is that you were like proactive you tagged him on twitter you you you you worked for it didn't just happen to you yeah and i you know it was something that i loved doing that i just did and i put it out there in the world and

uh i whiteboarded that before I knew what a, what whiteboarding was. Yeah. What's up? Well, you made it happen, man. And,

and, and so tell people who might not know like the different tasks that a graphic designer has on a show, because you've already mentioned things as, as varied as making a, you know, a promotional thing that included Donald's picture to redesigning a prop? Like what are the different things a graphic designer does on a show?

So a graphic designer tends to do anything that has graphics that actually goes in front of a camera. So it's not like on screen graphics, like, like, uh, VFX or anything like that. It's,

um, signage. It's if someone has a graphic T-shirt on, patches for the police, police cars, any kind of props. Any prop that needs to be bespoke for the show and even plenty not, right? Because if you can't show Coca-Cola,

you have to make sort of a Coca-Cola-like label that isn't too close. You have to know what you're allowed to do, right? Because you can't go too close to the actual product. Exactly. There's a lot of knowing what you can get away with through legal with that stuff, with fake products, not making them the same color scheme as what they're trying to evoke. Newspapers, all kinds of one of these sounds like you're one of those people who's lucky enough to be doing something and making a living at something you genuinely love doing oh dude i've wanted to be involved in the movie since i saw et in the theater when i was

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you're kind of a VIP guest because you gave us this amazing present. Do you have a question? Do you want to ask questions? Do you have a question? Do you want us to fix your life? How can we be of service to you for giving us this beautiful present? You know, just being here and giving me 20 years of Scrubs watching is great.

And I have to be honest, for the fix your life thing I was having trouble thinking of any way that you could fix my life because honestly my life is just real great I'm real happy you know what I'm going to hit it sorry Donald

I did not turn my key but I will turn it now until we have the prop alright so we don't need to fix your life because your life is... Wait, wait, wait. There actually is something that you can do that would help keep my life fixed. Okay. Okay. So you may be aware that here in Georgia, we have a shitheel of a governor who keeps signing bullshit laws.

Yeah, we know about that. keep signing bullshit laws yeah we know about that uh and what ends up happening is a bunch of people in hollywood start saying well we shouldn't film in georgia anymore and you know it doesn't help us if the film industry leaves georgia then you're just taking a whole bunch of blue voters out of the state right after we just flipped the presidency. We just put two Democrats in our Senate. We're on the cusp of really changing Georgia into a good place. And the governor doing all this only got there because he cheated. So I hear what you're saying but what is there obviously there's people i know will smith was one of them who moved his film to louisiana what do you say to people

that are are upset with with what he's trying to do um and and and don't want to i understand what you're saying he's like don't don't don't take the work away that's not you're going to affect people that are probably on your side and you're going to put a lot of people out of work. It's not their fault. But when you're the Will Smiths of the world or people who have actually power to move productions, what do you say to them? Well, I just say, look at what Ryan Coogler said and what Jordan Peele said. They said, you stay and fight. You change it.

We have Stacey Abrams almost certainly running for governor again next year. And she has been pushing a voter signup initiative for the last four years. Yeah, she's incredible. And she's going to get nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. She's so incredible. She's been largely credited with putting georgia in the biden column just with her own efforts and she's going to keep fighting that fight and then she's going to run for governor and we're going to get rid of this guy and georgia's going to stop passing these stupid laws and everybody can be happy here but it can't happen if film just shuts down and takes everybody that came here from L.A. that's like-minded away. I have a question you might know the answer to, or if you don't, Daniel will.

What's the thinking behind you're not allowed to bring someone water as they wait on line to vote? Oh, it's just straight evil. There's not any logic behind it. But what is the governor what's the governor's logic the governor's logic is that it's encouraging people to vote a certain way right bringing literally he never he never gave like a specific reason like they're at least in my like readings there's never been like a well we don't want to like back up the line or you know we don't know what's in that water.

You're giving like didn't even try to bullshit it. They're just like, you just can't do that anymore. What's in the water? Part of the law is that the state can determine how many polling places a locality has and how much early voting they have. Right. has and how much early voting they have to put them all in an even keel so that a county with 5,000 people can have the same amount of voting resources as Fulton County with 10 million people or whatever there are here. And so that creates these giant super long lines right in in areas where it's primarily people of color or other likely democratic voters and they have to be in line for eight hours and if you can bring them

food and water then they might stay they might stay otherwise it really is as simple as that really is as simple as like we don't want to encourage them to stay in line. Yeah. I just think it's crazy. I'm going to say this as apolitically as possible because I really just think it's insane to say that any human being in this country who can vote has to wait eight hours to vote. It's just so bizarre that that's an accepted thing. And I can understand how frustrated you would be in Georgia because you'd be like, why do certain neighborhoods have no weight and our neighborhood has a fucking nine hour wait? And so you would say all politics aside, let's add more polling places. Let's add more drop boxes.

Why is that even a debate? No one should have to wait that long to vote. Because then the people that have been cheating to get into office for the longest can't get into office. I know, but that's so fucking sinister. That's politics. Isn't that politics that sinister is that if you do decide to give somebody water in line you could go to jail for a year right a full year yeah what the hell that does not seem like a good man all right so we're gonna fix your life by not uh taking our productions out of i would i would be so so grateful if you guys could just use your voices and say, you know, stay in Georgia and fight.

Well, Donald did. And wherever Ryan Coogler does, Donald wants to do that as well because Donald is going to be in Black Panther one day. Listen, Sean, I have to admit when I heard about this, I had the same reaction. Not that I was about to make something in Georgia, but I thought to myself, oh, Hollywood's going to pull out of this state because it's ridiculous. And then I saw people like Ryan Coogler and others, Stacey Abrams, saying, no, please, look, we're making such progress. Don't abandon us. Yeah, because that's what it is. That's what it turns into.

Will Smith didn't get your message. Donald, why don't you call will smith and tell him to change his mind let me write that down write it down call will smith um sean i'm sorry if i made that too political it's just it's real important to me and i actually don't i don't even think it needs everyone will interpret it as political as a democratic Republican thing. But I, I, I just find it so baffling when you come at it from an innocent point of view, if you just put yourself in a, I don't know anything about politics place and go, why do some neighborhoods have more polling places per capita than others? Why do you, why, why are you, there's an eight hour wait, why are

you taking more away? It just doesn't make any logical sense at all. You're right. And then you go, okay. And then you go, okay. And then you go, wait, wait, wait, I got an extra something. When people are bringing them water and food,

let's put them in jail. That's encouraging them to stay. Let's make it illegal. Let's make it illegal to bring them water. That's some crazy 2021 shit right there. All right. Well, how do we end on a happy note guys?

Donald say something funny. Book. It's not shit. Ass. alright well how do we end on a happy note guys Donald say something funny booger snot shit ass booger snot shit ass goodnight no that didn't do it that didn't do it that didn't do it that did it for me

I laughed my ass off Joe I'm still laughing Sean are you gonna watch Percy versus Goliath? My new film. That's number four on iTunes tonight. Yes, absolutely. Thank you. Please do.

You must like Christopher Walken. I love Christopher Walken. It's a very good film. It happens to be number four on iTunes listeners. Please check it out. It was made for 11 cents and don't lie to them. It was made for 11 cents and, uh, well, don't lie to them. It was made for very little money.

And the fact that it is, um, number four on iTunes with no marketing budget is cool. And I hope that it, uh, continues to do well. I feel like a lot of that has to do with the people that are in the movie. Well,

it's well, I think everyone loves Christopher Walken, Christina Ricci and I are, are the small supporting parts, but it's all about walking. And he's just a pleasure to watch. And it's about a very interesting subject on Santa, which we won't even begin to try and talk about here. But you'll see it in the movie.

Joelle, do you have anything you want to tell the audience? Don't forget to buy merch. We have socks. We have badge pulls. We got new hot shit coming. I'm so excited for the merch stuff coming sean do you want to plug do you want to plug your podcast names one more time so everybody knows what the names are sure there's uh table reads which you can find at table reads podcast.com

and star girl after show which is at star girl after show.com and i just have to say real quick um to joelle and danil um i do those two podcasts all on my own like all my own editing table reads i run like a live radio show with all kinds of production and i i cannot understate how much work that you guys must do to make this and other podcasts happen like i don't think people understand the work that goes into that i only was able to do i i only was able to do star girl after show because of the covid shutdown that's how much time I went into that. If I had to work a job, that show would suck. Yeah. Well, look how trick-to-trick you are. Thank you. Sincerely. You honor them. You honor

me. You honor me. I kept my wet bathing suit on for Sean. Thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you. I'm going to slide it off the second we hang up. Oh my God. Please do not. I'm going to slide it off in a provocative manner. Do not do that. Even though I'm alone. I'm going to slide it off the second we hang up. Oh, my God. Please do not. I'm going to slide it off in a provocative manner.

Do not do that. Even on alone, I'm going to try and turn myself on by how slowly I slide it down. Oh, I thought you were going to do it when we were on. I was about to say, do not do it. Oh, no. I wouldn't do it in front of Joelle and Daniel, but you might actually like it. Thank you for listening, as always. We really, really, really appreciate you listening. As always, we really, really,

really appreciate you. And, and next week we're going to have the directors of C-Spiracy on. We're going to do one of our, a conversation with, and it's going to be really interesting. So check out C-Spiracy this week and check out Percy versus Goliath this week. And thank you so much,

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