Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - 606: My Musical

Episode Date: April 5, 2022

On this week's episode, a patient hears singing everywhere she goes. In the real world, we're celebrating one of the best episodes of television to ever hit the air waves. We recap the joy, struggles,... and accomplishments of every song. Enjoy! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:11 There he is. Yo, what up, yo? I'm confused. Whenever you're punctual, I'm confused. So good to see you. Wait, here's your new theme song. I don't like my new theme song. You don't?
Starting point is 00:02:22 I'm limited in what I have. Do you like this better? Yes. Way better. Okay. Way better. That's yours, baby. It's more game showy.
Starting point is 00:02:31 That's yours, baby. The other one sounds like an interlude in between. You could also have this. This is- Living single. Sounds like an interlude in living single. Yeah. This is labeled funky.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Do you want this one? Do you want this one? funky. Do you want this one? Do you want this one? I thought that was when we came back from Yeah, I know. We're still figuring it out, babe. Come on, man. Hey, let's I gotta say, I haven't watched my musical in
Starting point is 00:02:58 so long. I've only seen Guy Love nine jillion times. And not to pat ourselves on the back, this is fucking a one of the best episodes of tv comedy ever you think so yes i think it's brilliant yeah it is and we can say that because we didn't write it and i want to give kudos to the writers right off the bat jeff marks robert lopez paul perry and i'm sure a few others i don't know about obviously deb fordham who wrote the episode,
Starting point is 00:03:28 wrote a lot of the lyrics with the whole writing staff. Will McKenzie directed. Will McKenzie, brilliant director. Bill Lawrence, of course, overseeing the whole thing. But it is so tight. I mean, first of all, it's so short. And to think of all those songs and all that in, what is it, 20? Two minutes, I think. 22 minutes.
Starting point is 00:03:47 And Donald, you are particularly amazing in it. Every time, I mean, because you really are a singer and a dancer, you shine so bright in this. Thank you, man. That's very nice of you to say. You know who really shined in this for me was Judy. Yes. Because I know she broke her back or something like that.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Yeah, her hip. I found this trivia. For those of you, here's your first bit of trivia. Wait, should we get into the show? Five, six, seven, eight. Here's some stories about a show we made. About a bunch of docs and nurses in a Canada who love to hate. I said here's the stories that we all should know.
Starting point is 00:04:25 I said he's got stories that we all should know. So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald. Okay, tell us about the trivia. There's some trivia I learned on Scrubs Wiki, which is that Judy Reyes had a broken hip. Yes. And other than the tango that she does with Donald, which was shot two months after the fact, they had to come back and shoot it. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:04:55 You'll notice that she's always sitting. Yep. We're going to miss you, Carla. The whole woman is going to miss you, Carla. She's sitting in a wheelchair, I believe. Right? Or no? Why would she be in a wheelchair?
Starting point is 00:05:05 No, she's sitting in a regular chair. Okay anyway there's some mega trivia for you trivia buffs out there um judy reyes spent the whole time in sitting except for the tango which was shot two months later she was also out for a bit while she healed because she uh so we we didn't see her for a while. Do you remember how she broke her hip? Was it sexually related? Oh, I wish. I wish it was sexually related. Oh, boy. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:05:34 By the way, her voice is – first of all, I don't even want to begin, okay? And I'm sure if you're a mega Scrubs fan and you're listening to this podcast, you probably feel the same way because I haven't seen it. I don't think I've seen it in 20 years. It is so good. And Judy Reyes's voice, first of all, amazing. So good. Everything you do, Donald, and this is amazing.
Starting point is 00:05:56 But the tango I hadn't seen for the last time, Turk, I'm Dominican. That is so fucking funny. And the dancing is so good. She's great. Do you remember? Like, you guys must have rehearsed a long time for that. No, we didn't. Oh, don't rub it in for us non-dancers.
Starting point is 00:06:13 She was hurt. We rehearsed for 10 minutes. We had like a half a day of rehearsal so we could get the blocking and everything down. But for the most part, she was, I mean, she had to come back and like, kudos to her, man, because she had to come back and learn it really fast. We rehearsed for a week or two before we even started blocking this episode. This was huge for us. I mean, this was just one of the biggest things we ever did.
Starting point is 00:06:42 We prerecorded. So not only did these genius writers that I mentioned write all this music, and then it was orchestrated. And then we had to go and pre-record all the songs so that we could sing and dance to them, you know, and have them be filmed. And so we had never done anything this epic i mean before this was by far the biggest i'm sure um this and maybe the the the princess bride one were the most expensive ones ever but um this was so fun and will mckenzie i mean he's such a talented director i mean he loved musicals and he had a broadway background and and he's directed a zillion episodes of television and he just was the perfect man for this assignment the way this is photographed the
Starting point is 00:07:30 way it goes in and out of every time stephanie de bruzzo i believe she was in avenue q and she's been in a lot of broadway things and she's wonderfully talented but you know we only sing when she's around and then it also takes on this little sort of heightened glow of like a Technicolor musical. You know, little things like that. And just all the camera moves. I mean, the camera's dancing too. And those overheads. The lights are dancing in this bad boy as well, dude.
Starting point is 00:07:58 John Inwood. We got to give a shout out to John Inwood who shot it beautifully. I mean, it was nominated for five Emmys. Now, Scrubs barely ever won Emmys. No bitterness. I have no hate towards anyone. I do. We should have won all five.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Again, we lost to Dick in a Box. No, we won one Emmy for this episode. Do you know what it was? What the Emmy was for? No. I had to look it up. Editing. Sound mix. Sounditing. Sound mix.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Sound mix. Which is kind of bullshit because... We lost to Dick in the Box. I just want you to know that. Guy Love lost to Dick in the Box. Oh, for song? Well, Dick in the Box was more seen. Because I'm wise enough to know
Starting point is 00:08:41 when a gift needs giving. And I got just the one to let her know that she's second to none it's my dick in a box my dick in a box girl well you shouldn't be singing this song that beat us well you know i'm not a sore loser it was years ago um so yeah sound mixing be singing the song that beat us. Well, you know, I'm not a sore loser. It was years ago. So, yeah, sound mixing. That's the Emmy we won. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:09:12 The opening dance number, I mean, that took a long time to shoot. They have those overhead beautiful, what do they call those swimming shots? Crane? No, no, no. Overhead? No, you guys know what I'm talking about. Busby Berkeley. Whathead? No, you guys know what I'm talking about. Busby Berkeley. What's that expression?
Starting point is 00:09:28 Do you know what I'm talking about? Berkeley's top shot technique. Okay. I guess it's Buzz Berkeley. Busby Berkeley? What's Berkeley's first name, Joel? Can you find that? Yeah, it's Busby.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Busby Berkeley. So he would do those top shot down things and then an elaborate dance move so you'd see it. So that's what Will is. They do it at Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom in the opening number. It's done in blazing saddles when they are busting through all the sets and stuff like that at the end of the movie. But I'm talking about in a moving dance sort of scene, the beautiful choreography. That's what it's done. That's what it's done What's the Coen Brothers movie
Starting point is 00:10:07 Where Scarlett Johansson rises out of the water They do it in that one too Hail Caesar Wow nice pull Joelle That's where they found Han Solo They did The new Han Solo What are you talking about
Starting point is 00:10:22 Oh in Hail Caesar Do you like him as Han Solo? Yeah, why not, man? Look, man. Other than you, do you think that there's a better choice for Han Solo out there? I do. And no disrespect to him, because I think he did a great job. But I think the person who should have got the Han Solo character is the dude that was in What's That Story?
Starting point is 00:10:41 Ansel Elgort? Yeah. No, I think it should be... Ansel Elgort is a better Han Solo. I promise you, dude. He's got the height. I would have liked Andrew. Garfield?
Starting point is 00:10:52 Really? Really? Really? Really? Yeah. Really? Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:57 I went to some of the Oscar parties. Oh, wow. Saw lots of famous people. Okay. I brought my friend Preston, and when we left, I high-fived him, and I said, I think we didn't embarrass ourselves in front of anyone. Successful night. You know, because Donald told that story of we've both definitely
Starting point is 00:11:17 embarrassed ourselves in front of celebrities. Several times I've done that. But there were lots of cool actors, and it's cool. You know, you go to these parties, and you get to walk up to people you really admire and say, hey. Sometimes you know them. Sometimes you don't. And you can say, hey, that performance was incredible. And that's the thing I like about it.
Starting point is 00:11:37 It's cool. And I didn't embarrass myself. How does it feel to be doing that stuff again? That's the question. I felt great. There was a break in between. It felt great. I mean, yeah, obviously I haven't done any of that since COVID.
Starting point is 00:11:49 And it just felt cool. You know, I'm literally, I still feel like the little kid in the room who can't believe he's invited to the party. Yeah. So that's what's so fun about it is to look around the room and go, oh, my God, it's so-and-so, so-and-so. And then, you know, my agent would would sometimes introduce me to some mega person. And that was cool. And we just had some good laughs. But mostly, we were excited that we escaped the party without embarrassing ourselves.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Biggest name you ran into that you were like, holy shit, conversation. Be on point now. Well, I did see Leo. I did see Leo, but we didn't uh we didn't have a long conversation we had a more of a fist bump a fist doc if you will you guys docked we didn't yeah we had a fist we had a fist doc um i spoke to andrew garfield who i know a little bit and i and i went on and on about a tick-tick boom. But I made sure, Donald, I didn't embarrass us.
Starting point is 00:12:50 I know I could picture you over my shoulder being like, okay, buddy, back away, back away. That's enough. You've done enough, yeah. But I did give Andrew Garfield some love because I did think truly that that performance was fucking unbelievable. And I think he's one of the best there is. And I told him, anyway, let best there is. And I told him.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Anyway, let's get back to our musical, Donald. Yeah. Let's open with, so we talked about the opening number, which is incredible and just so well written. Then we go into our Pooh song, which is just so funny. And the choreography is so funny. Yeah, we had a lot of fun. Picking our heads in.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Hey, Miss Miller, we just need a stool sample. Why do you need a stool sample if you think I'm just a nut? Because the answer's not in your head, my dear. It's in your butt. Uh-huh. You see. Everything
Starting point is 00:13:40 comes down to poo. This show should really just be me and Donald singing all the songs for you guys. Whether it's a tumor or a touch of the flu. Please won't you pinch us off a big fat clue. Our number one guess is your number two. If there's no pre-slide or match, please. Everything comes down to doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo.
Starting point is 00:14:05 So there's a moment in that song that's very funny, and that's the break where it goes. Mike Schwartz. Check the poo? Yes. Mike Schwartz says- A homeless guy threw poo in my eye. Check the poo? Check the poo.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Mine or his? First him, then you. Then you. But the way that Mike Schwartz Cause if he doesn't have anything in his poo You're gonna be fine But the way that Mike Schwartz asked Mine or his
Starting point is 00:14:35 He's so funny First his then you It may seem gross It may You may say shush see it used to be it originally it was it may seem gross it may be crass but we need to see what comes out of your ass yes some of the original lyrics and before that it was a curly or a letter j As long as it's a deuce. Yes! Everything come down to poo.
Starting point is 00:15:08 NBC put their foot down on describing fecal matter as a letter J. Or a curly. A curly. A curly or a letter J. It's just so funny. A letter J! It's so funny what they allowed, but they didn't allow a curly or a letter j how many letter j's have you had though that's the truth though think about it
Starting point is 00:15:39 i guess so because it was in the song at one point. A curly or a letter J, as long as it's a deuce. Yes! And then we cheer it. It was such a bummer when we'd get lyrics, and they were so funny, and then by the time we recorded we had to change some of them, because NBC
Starting point is 00:15:59 didn't approve them. Well, this episode is completely chopped up also, man. There were so many storylines that had or it's amazing it's 22 minutes that had to go yeah that had to go because they wanted to get all the songs in there's really only two plots there's carla's deciding whether she's going to be a working mom and come back to work or be a stay-at-home mom and and uh sarah's moving into her new house and doesn't want me to move in. And then the woman, of course,
Starting point is 00:16:28 who has an aneurysm that's causing her to hear people singing. But the thing that's taking, the plot that takes over most of the show so we could, is the music, obviously, because we wanted to tell that story. Are you okay?
Starting point is 00:16:42 Are you all right? Now, they all have like a little bit of an homage to a genre i was gonna ask you this yeah see some more than others but could you name them well i will see how i do i i wrote down some thoughts on it um so the blanks we're gonna miss you carla i don't know what do you think that's an homage to it's sort of like a it's like a song from song from Greece kind of thing. But there's a clear Greece song later. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:10 I'm not exactly sure what that is. It's almost like a barbershop. It may be barbershop. Barbershop quartet-ish. You know what I mean? Right. That's such a good tune. I had forgotten about that one.
Starting point is 00:17:19 How are we ever gonna learn a lot? Da-da-da-la-la. It kind of sounds like a barbershop quartet. Da-da-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. It kind of sounds like a Barbershop Quartet. Now, when you come in, my baby's made the choice to be at home and not at work. That was your entrance, dude? I had to rewind and watch it again. It was so good. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 00:17:40 A little homage to, you know. What was your homage to? You know, the king of pop back in the day. Right. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You did that later in Guy Love. But I know it's not probably going to happen,
Starting point is 00:17:58 but I wish you'd do a Broadway musical because. They don't want me, man. Ain't nobody offering me no damn Broadway musicals. They don't want me. If they did want me, I wouldway musicals they don't want me if they did want me i would have done one by now listen man we could talk i auditioned for the one i did they're not gonna they're not gonna you audition for bullets over broadway yeah hell yeah nice um i uh i'm gonna i'm gonna tell you something though go ahead hold on hold on is it is it something that's really let me ask you a question when you auditioned for it yes did you audition against other broadway performers and stuff um what i did was i didn't go to the actual audition i had to leave town and i was very
Starting point is 00:18:38 terrified to go in and audition and so what i did was i had a piano player come over my house and we videotaped me singing the songs. That was the first audition was singing this song. And I then forgot about it like every actor should because the best way to get a part is to submit your audition and never think about it again until they call you. And I said, I'm'm never gonna get this and then they called me and said woody and um susan stroman who directed it really liked you now will you read the scene and then i had a second audition on tape from la and i read the scene and they said they're gonna do a workshop of it and they want you to play the the john cusack part it was you know because it's based on a um johnusack movie, Woody Allen movie.
Starting point is 00:19:26 And so I did the workshop and then officially got the part after the workshop. Did you listen to any of that? I did. All I heard was you had like a boutique audition and then another boutique audition. No, I just videotaped myself. Right. And then they were like, it's no different than you videotaping yourself for a role at home. I just didn't go in. Ain't nobody called me and asked me to videotape myself for this shit, is what I'm trying to say. You're sitting here saying you should be a part of a
Starting point is 00:19:54 Broadway thing. They gotta want you to be a part of the motherfucker, too. These things have to happen. I can't just be like, you're right. I'm now on Broadway, everyone. It doesn't work that way. Listen, do you have... Your agency has a theater department, okay? Yes. You're gonna go I'm now on Broadway, everyone. It doesn't work that way. Listen, your agency has a theater department, okay? Yes. You're going to go to your theater agent, and you're going to say,
Starting point is 00:20:10 Hey, theater agent, Zach Braff, the amazing actor, director. The amazing man that he is. The amazing actor, director, singer, dancer. Broadway star. Broadway star says I should do Broadway. Can you, if a musical that's right for me comes up, can you flag it? I'm intrigued. No, because here's the problem.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Because then all of a sudden Shrek comes up and they're like, they want you to play Donkey, Donald. That's how it works. I see how this shit happens. I see how this shit works, ZB. I know how this shit works. I know how this shit works, ZB. I know how this shit works. I know how this shit works. They don't call me
Starting point is 00:20:48 and say, yo, Woody Allen has the next freaking part in Bullets Over Broadway. They go, Donald, we want you to play Mufasa in fucking The Lion King. That's how it goes. I know how this shit works. What? We could all be so lucky to play Mufasa in The Lion King. I'd be there
Starting point is 00:21:03 every fucking night if you were Mufasa. I would have to learn how to fucking work puppets, man. I'm not good at that shit. They teach you. Come on, bro. They teach you. You think they're only seeing puppeteers? You think they only audition puppeteers?
Starting point is 00:21:19 I mean, when I saw the show, it was magical. Like, it was, the puppetry was amazing. That was really the show. Let's keep it up the puppetry was amazing. That was really the show. Let's keep it up. We know the music. We've seen the movie. All right, we're going to get a break. Let Don cool off.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Okay, I'm just saying. I'm just saying. And when we come back, we're going to talk more about the legendary episode that I'm so honored and proud to be a part of. My Musical. So was I. We'll be right back. Hi, this is Shannon Doherty, host of the new podcast, Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty. You may know me from, let's see, 90210, Charmed, Mallrats, Heathers.
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Starting point is 00:26:02 Go, Donald. Go, Donald. I got to tell you, man, I was very happy to watch Dr. Cox rap. You know, that was kind of cool. Yeah, so that, I believe, is Gilbert and Sullivan, if I'm not mistaken. That's sort of like Pirates of the Penzance. Pirates of the Penzance, yeah. Yes. That was awesome.
Starting point is 00:26:24 He killed it. He did a great job. And what about, it all started with a penny in the door. I never felt such hate. I had never felt before. Amazing. Amazing. And then he calls me a moose-haired something.
Starting point is 00:26:45 I don't know. I loved it. I loved it. A lot of it was very, like, there's no way she could yell at you, and all of a sudden he's going to give her the surgery or the MRI that she wants. You know, she yells at you to shut up, And then all of a sudden she gets the MRI. Well, I think you can complain. I mean, I've, I've definitely like, I had my back problems and they're like, Oh, you don't need an MRI.
Starting point is 00:27:14 And I'm like, please for the, for the, for the, for the safety, for the comfort of my mind. But you pay for it though. No, it's covered by insurance. I'm lucky enough in this country that has a very messed up health system to be one of the insured. There you go. So anyway,
Starting point is 00:27:32 yeah, you can, you can, you can say, I mean, your doctor can, I'm sure say no, but I've,
Starting point is 00:27:37 I've had a doctor say yes. I think she could convince him and say, please, from, from my peace of mind, can I, can you do the CAT scan? I did that with my colonoscopy.
Starting point is 00:27:46 He was like, you're too young. You don't need it yet. I was like, please do it. I don't care. You wanted that shit. And then while you were doing it, you were like, deeper. He said, we don't go any deeper. I was asleep, you idiot.
Starting point is 00:27:56 I was asleep. I got the real deal Holyfield. You were like, deeper. Listen, everybody likes a little ass play. Everybody likes a little ass play. Everybody likes a little ass play. He was like, this is the girth of the camera. Don't even act like you don't like a little ass play, dog. They were like, this is the girth of the camera tube.
Starting point is 00:28:13 And you're like, got anything girthier? Oh, God. You're hating right now. Everybody likes a little ass play. Don't even act like you don't. Can I have that, Daniel, as one of my new sounds? Yes. I'm going to mark that one down.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Thank you. Please do. They do. Whether it be taking a poop, whether it be a finger, whether it be a tongue, whether it, you know, everybody likes a little ass play. I need all of that, Daniel, for my sound pack. For fuck's sake, just stop talking about your willies. I wasn't. I was talking about my asshole.
Starting point is 00:28:48 He likes to talk about his asshole. What you trying to get into one day or soon? What you trying to do? I think we've already established what we're trying to get into. Okay, so...
Starting point is 00:29:04 Or do not. There is no try. i read something online that you're od'ing on it now i'm sorry i got excited about all my buttons um you've read some line at what i on reddit they had this thread i always send you guys you and joelle these threads that i'm sure you don't read but it's like reddit had this thread that was like what's your most unpopular star wars opinion or something like that and someone said yoda um barely did the the backwards talking in the beginning and then it became like out of control oh wow that's pretty good i see it you see it joel joelle's going through every line of dialogue. What did he first say?
Starting point is 00:29:48 Yes. So when the song, when the truth comes out, is sort of a Les Mis homage. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Which I thought was cool. Do you hear the people sing? Yes, it's that end of act one, do you hear the... No, actually, it's one more day as end of act one one more day
Starting point is 00:30:06 but one yeah the same thing same lame is big full company number that kind of thing but i thought it was so well done i mean did you get excited i got so excited right this is the song i was talking about. I'm sure you must be scared not knowing what this test will bring. Go ahead. It could prove that you are crazy. Do you still hear people sing? Yep. It's best to know the truth
Starting point is 00:30:37 of that I have no doubt. But you'll have to face the future when the truth comes out. That's all we can play. No, I got 24 seconds. We are running a test that's a waste of our time, but at least she'll accept that she's medically fine. She'll admit that she's nuts or I'll have to say something.
Starting point is 00:30:51 All right, that's 30. Oh, it's so good. It is really good. Can we play 30 of each song, Joelle? As long as you guys are analyzing the song and talking about it specifically, yes. Okay, well, I'm learning something, but most importantly, I'm learning Let's face the facts
Starting point is 00:31:10 about me and you unspecified It's a bop. Though I'm proud to call you chocolate bear, the crowd will always talk and stare I feel exactly those feelings too and that's why i keep them inside
Starting point is 00:31:28 fire this can't bear the world's disdain and sometimes it's easier to hide and explain our guy love that was 30 seconds it's so beautiful now mine i'm there's some funny ass shit in that now i mean you're the only man who's ever been inside of me right and i hold up my fist yeah meaning insinuating that i fisted your butthole but i'm saying i'm saying dude i just took your stitches out i just put stitches yeah but i like i like I go and I go. I like that. I go.
Starting point is 00:32:05 There's no need to clarify. And I'm like, oh, no. Are you sure? Are you sure? Because you put your fist up. That show is so funny. And my other favorite thing is that when we go, let's go. And we just go to the end of the bed.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Yeah, we go right to the end of the bed. Yeah, we go right to the end of the bed. I love how on point you guys were with that. Also, the facial expressions you give, like both of you throughout, is so fun, like really selling the moment. It's so beautiful. I hate to tell you this, but we were really trying to sing the shit out of this song, too. Like, we're sitting there. Like, everybody looks at it like it's a joke
Starting point is 00:32:45 because it obviously is a joke and we are making a joke, but we're sincerely trying to fucking sing. Oh, I picked that out. This shit is real deal Holyfield. This wasn't no fucking... No, that was a pre-record though, Donald, wasn't it? Yeah, it was a pre-record,
Starting point is 00:33:01 but we weren't in the pre-record. But they had mics on us too, so when we said, like when Donald did his, like, and then when I go, when he puts his hand, I go, no hands. Hugs. Dude, I still use no hands. I still use that shit.
Starting point is 00:33:20 No hands, baby. Hugs, hugs. Now, this is a much underappreciated, not talked about song in this particular episode. I've had it up to here, so let me make it very clear. Because I swear I'll never prove you win again. Every time that you profess I come from Puerto Rico. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:40 For the last time, Turk, I'm Dominican. Don't make a big to-do. I was simply testing you. Go ahead. Then why'd you tell J.D. our baby's black-sakin'? I'm a little proof-soulist. All you know about me, we're no sex again. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:33:59 That shit was amazing. Your name is Carla. I sent you. I emailed you all the lyrics, by the way, if you wanted to reference them. I love that song. That song, I laughed so much when I first read that song and we sang it. Like, why'd you tell JD our baby's black, Sakin? Then why'd you tell JD our baby's black, Sakin?
Starting point is 00:34:22 I think that's a great way to describe ethnic children. What are you? You know right away, I'm Blacksican. Half Black, half Mexican. That's a Blacksican baby right there, baby. That's a Blacksican baby. That shit is hilarious to me. I laughed my ass off at that shit, dude.
Starting point is 00:34:41 It was so funny. That was funny. And the lyrics, i think it's deb fordham i don't know i'm of course it's all the writers but deb you are the head writer on this episode um the lyrics are so funny and um and you guys are just amazing like i would you know there's there was talk of making a scrubs musical. Yeah, Randall was trying to get that done. Randall Winston was trying to develop it. I'm sure there'll probably be one one day, and we can go see it, and I would cheer.
Starting point is 00:35:12 You know, they made a Clueless musical, and Dove Cameron played Cher and did a wonderful job. You know what I mean? Like, Amy Heckling was involved and directed it and everything. You know, I don't see why they couldn't do a Scrubs musical. And it doesn't even have to be this musical episode. It could be any episode. You could.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Well, you would. You could have to add songs. It's not. It's only. Right. I get you. You'd have to add a lot more songs because there's not enough. But you could create a whole brand new episode.
Starting point is 00:35:44 It doesn't necessarily have to be about someone hearing sing even though that works and you know make a i i totally see this happening or see a version of this happening i don't necessarily see us in it but i see it happening we're not gonna be in it we're too old it has to be about young people like if they did like that's what. If they did Scrubs now... How many fingers do you see? Call 911 emergency. I'm not used to being interrupted. I'm really not.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Why am I singing? I thought you'd like to hear 30 seconds of this. Is there someone here with you? No, I'm by myself. Someone that we could talk to? I said I'm by myself no y'all sing it
Starting point is 00:36:29 stop singing stop singing I'm not somebody help that's what she would really be doing why the fuck is everybody singing what the fuck is going on stop fucking singing doing? What the fuck is everybody saying? What the fuck is going on?
Starting point is 00:36:46 Stop fucking saying. You know, it'd be funny if the character hated musicals. That'd be even better. Oh, no, not
Starting point is 00:36:56 another one. Another one. No hands. All right, then we get this classic. Hold on. Remember this
Starting point is 00:37:04 one, Donald? Hold on. Remember this one, Donald? Hold on. We'll be friends forever. We're going to be friends forever. We will always be true. Friends forever. We're going to be friends forever. I'll always be there for you
Starting point is 00:37:25 We're as close as the Vina Cotta and the Aorta We're best friends just like I'm a villain I'm a villain Why are you trying to diss Sarah's singing? Because she sounds like a gremlin when she sings I'm a villain
Starting point is 00:37:40 I'm a villain I love Sarah Oh, there's our girl. I love Sarah, but I have to say, amongst her many talents, and she has many talents. She's a phenomenal actress. She's beautiful. She's so kind.
Starting point is 00:37:55 She's an amazing mom. Singing is not in her top six things. No. I would say it's sports and singing that she's probably not the best at. Well, she can snowboard. I know that she's a good snowboarder because she's Canadian. You know, Sarah was looking for a school sport when she was younger and had to settle for shot put. Can you imagine Sarah doing shot put?
Starting point is 00:38:24 No. And the only reason why she got shot put is because there wasn't enough interest. Shot put is the dumbest sport. No, I disagree. I disagree. I'm sorry if you're into shot put, but can you imagine putting that much time into shot put? It's a technique that is, yeah, and it goes nowhere. The thing is, it goes
Starting point is 00:38:47 after you become the best shot putter in the world. That's the moment the ball, where you spin around? I mean, come on, dude. Unless you gotta take someone out from far away, though. Right. If there was an attack, right, right.
Starting point is 00:39:03 If there was an attack. No, maybe if they added an element to shot put like hit a dude right moving targets moving targets is a good idea that's well then it's no longer it's what's another what's another funny one oh throwing the hammer they know throwing the hammer Is that the same one or is that a different one That's different It looks cool as hell Javelin Is javelin still in the Olympics Yeah I've always thought
Starting point is 00:39:35 Oh that's another dumb one I'm sorry discus players Heavy frisbee What about Hacky sack That's an olympic not in the olympics on the olympics that's just stoner hacky sack is in the olympic hold on hacky sack has been in the olympics before look it up no i am it's not look it up but you know what i've always you know who i've always um been uh jealous of is those people who can do the stick thing. Hydro?
Starting point is 00:40:06 Running stick. Hydro? Hydro. Or pole vault. Pole vault. Running stick. There you go. Oh, my God. Pole vault.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Pole vault. Oh, my God. Running stick. I think pole vaulting is cool. Oh, yeah. Vancouver Olympics 2010. Hacky sack footage Oh, yeah. Vancouver Olympics 2010. Hacky Sack footage, crazy skills, Vancouver Olympics 2010. I think this is simply at the Olympics.
Starting point is 00:40:31 I don't know if this is because these people are just in the street. Hacky Sack was in the Olympics, dude. I'm telling you. I played it in the video game, dude. I know it was. Well, maybe in the video game it was. It was. That's fine. Joel, I'm seeing it was. In the was. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Joel, I'm seeing a lot. I digress. I'm seeing a lot of love for the new Star Trek video game, Dan and Joel. Star Trek video game. There's a new Star Trek video game out. I don't know on which console, but for some reason, it keeps coming up in my feed saying it's getting good reviews. Interesting. I have not seen a trailer.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Let me see. Star Trek. The reviews I said said the best video game ever to be made about the property. The IP. Definitely. Are you intrigued? Yes. A little bit.
Starting point is 00:41:19 And the article I saw had an image of the Spock character. Oh, it's Ubisoft? Star Trek Resurgence. Isn't Ubisoft our friends? They are. Yeah, yeah. And Hasbro and Sega. Launches spring 2022.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Oh, cool. All right. Look at this. Well, can you ask our friends at Ubisoft to send me the Spock game? Because I think I might need to get in a video game. I have a little downtime now, Donald. Come on, Zach. I told you what to get into, dude.
Starting point is 00:41:46 You didn't want to fucking listen to me. Zelda. I don't think Zelda is going to be my thing. I don't want to have a – I'm way into more the natural, like Hitman or the Cowboy one you mentioned. Red Dead Redemption 2. Red Dead. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:59 I just finished that. It was – the story of that game is so gripping. So good. So, so good. Yeah game is so gripping. So good. It's so, so, so good. Yeah, I think that's more my speed. Now, I do have the latest Hitman, and it made me really scared. I was, I really, it was so realistic that I was frightened. I was, I panicked.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Okay, it hasn't been in the Olympics, but it was one day. Okay, fine, it took you long enough. Okay. Guests just arrived, by the way. Okay, we're going to let the guests in in a second, but I want to give a shout out to the You're Going to Be Okay. That was more of like a rent song. That's what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Everything's okay. 5,000, 25,000, 695,000. Beside you, we won't let you slip away. Plan for tomorrow. Cause we swear to you, you're going to be okay. I got a little emotional at this. I know, me too. I'm going to cry every time.
Starting point is 00:43:03 You're going to be okay. It's going to happen. It's so pretty. It's really lovely. This would not have worked at all if all of these creative groups didn't come together. All I kept thinking about was how many of these dancers were in La La Land. A lot of those dancers are all the background people were professional dancers. And well, keep in mind, this is 20.
Starting point is 00:43:28 I don't know if it's 20. How many years ago is 2006? I'm bad at math. 16 years ago. So some of them may have retired. But some of them were in La La Land. Okay. Don't yell about La La Land.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Some of them even sang in La La Land. Listen. Candice sang. All I got to say is that Donald found, Donald's connection to this was trying to figure out how many people from this may have been in La La Land. That's right. I think about that day. Because this is the opening number all over again. I met, I left him at a Greyhound station west in Santa Fe.
Starting point is 00:44:03 We were 17 and he was young and it was true. I knew what I had to do. She didn't even give him a chance to come to Paris. Give him a chance. There's jazz clubs in Paris.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Jazz clubs in Paris. Why not invite him? Jazz is huge in Paris. Jazz is huge in Paris. We have Paris. Yeah, why not invite him? Jazz is huge in Paris. Yeah, like we have this insane connection. Why don't you come work out of it? Did you ever watch the Aristocrats? Did you ever watch the Aristocrats? No.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Or freaking Cruella de Vil, the 101 Dalmatians? Jazz was huge. Cruella de Vil. Okay, that's a weird reference. But I just want to say that there's no reason that he couldn't have gone to Paris. All right, let's go to break. And when we come back, we're going to have a guest. And they better have a good musical question, Joelle,
Starting point is 00:44:54 or I'm going to flip this desk. All I'm saying is, he could have went to Paris with her. Yeah. We'll be back. We got it. Hi, this is Shannon Doherty, host of the new podcast, Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty. You may know me from, let's see, 90210, Charmed, Mallrats, Heathers.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Probably also know me from my stage four cancer diagnosis and sharing that journey with so many of you. There's something so authentic about a podcast. It's me connecting, me talking raw in the moment. That's what my goal is to give you. To talk about why I feel that cancer, to a certain extent, is a gift. What my responsibilities are as a person with cancer. Because I think that there's something so much bigger than me. And to be honest,
Starting point is 00:45:45 I'm still trying to find out what that is and maybe together we'll find it. It's going to be a wild ride. So I hope that you all tune in, listen to let's be clear with Shannon Doherty on the I heart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey, it's Alec Baldwin.
Starting point is 00:46:04 This past season on my podcast, Here's the Thing, I spoke with more actors, musicians, policymakers, and so many other fascinating people, like actress and director Cheryl Hines. They were looking for an unknown actress to play Larry David's wife. I said, well, how old is that guy? Isn't he old? And author David Sedaris.
Starting point is 00:46:32 You know, like when you meet somebody and they'll say, well, I want to be a writer, or I want to be an artist. And I say, well, is it all you care about? Because if it's not, it's going to be pretty hard for you if you're not on fire. It's like opening the door of an oven, and it's like, wow. You know, you take a step back. It's all they think about. It's all they talk about. It's all they care about.
Starting point is 00:46:53 They don't have relationships. They're not good friends for other people. This is just what they're laser-focused on. Listen to the new season of Here's the Thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, my name's Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose. I just had a great conversation with Michael B. Jordan,
Starting point is 00:47:18 and you can listen to it right now. Michael is known for his performances in both film and television. His breakout role was in Fruitvale Station, playing Oscar Grant, which earned him widespread praise and numerous award nominations. His portrayal of Killmonger in Marvel's Black Panther, one of my favorites, further solidified his status as one of Hollywood's leading actors, earning him widespread acclaim for his complex and compelling
Starting point is 00:47:45 performance. In our conversation, Michael really opens up. You're going to love listening to it, and I can't wait for you to check it out. The closest to getting what you want is always the hardest. It's always the feeling when you're getting ready. People give up right before they get what they've always wanted to get. People quit. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Julia Roberts, Scarlett Johansson, and the beautiful Sarah Jessica Parker, to name a few. Table for Two is a bit different from other interview shows. We sit down at a great restaurant for a meal, maybe a glass of rosé, and the stories start flowing. It is intimate, revealing, and often hilarious. We're back for a second season, and the guests are going to be just
Starting point is 00:48:42 as incredible. We'll be breaking bread with Colin Jost, Michael Mann, Divine Joy Randolph, just to name a few. And this time around, we're going even deeper, and we'll have something new for you each week. We'll talk about the big breaks, heartbreaks, and of course, food. So I hope you'll pull up a chair and join us for the latest season. Listen and subscribe to Table for Two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Spoke to you, our show is up and down. And we're back! We're back.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Welcome to our show. All right, kids. We're back. Let's bring in the caller. I'm so excited. We missed a caller last week. I apologize. It was my fault.
Starting point is 00:49:30 And now we have a caller. Let's do it. Play that song. We got a caller Who gave us a holler We can talk, start wars Or sing show tunes You know, like a baller
Starting point is 00:49:41 Smoke some jazz cabbage Maybe talk about the episode so come on Joelle let's get the show on ladies and gentlemen give it up for Ryan and Jenna before you even say anything I just want the audience to know that they couldn't have a more perfect background for this podcast. One is a poster of Star Wars, and one is a poster of Cosette and Les Miserables.
Starting point is 00:50:18 And you get us. You get us. You guys should just come. Before you even speak, you should just join before you even speak you should just join the show as regular co-hosts because you understand us do I care if I should die
Starting point is 00:50:33 now she goes across the sea life without cosette means nothing at all ok cosette if I were to fall would you be? Cosette, for me. All right.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Hi, guys. Welcome to the program. We obviously have shared interests. Tell us about yourselves and how Joel chose you. What did you write? You must have written something juicy. I don't know about juicy. You know, we've been fans
Starting point is 00:51:08 of the podcast. He sounded like Elvis, man. He came in smooth with it, didn't he? He came in real smooth with it. Okay, Ryan. I don't know about I don't know about I don't know about all that, but I'll tell you, I did have a brief call with Joelle and I told her
Starting point is 00:51:24 how much I love you. For real? Oh, my gosh. I was able to talk to Joelle. You came in smooth with it, Ryan. All right, baby. You want to get that recorded for me so I can play my students and up my street cred a little bit. That'd be cool.
Starting point is 00:51:38 There you go. There you go. I got you. Rather than send an email, I asked Joelle to hop on the phone. Oh, my gosh. Rather than send an email, I asked Joelle to hop on the phone. So now I've got, you know, with the beard, it's a bit different. But a lot of my life I've been given the, you look a little like Zach Braff. And now I've got Zach doing an impression of me. That's pretty surreal.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Well, you're going to have it because this podcast will be out there for all the world. And you can make it your ringtone. Can't wait. All right, guys, what's your question? Go ahead. Tell us about yourself. So we wrote in because, you know, besides from being great fans of the show, we thought it would be really neat if you had a couple of music teachers on for the My Musical episode. That's one of our favorites. That is good. All right, Joelle, I'm not going to have to flip the desk. Thank. That's one of our favorites.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Good. All right, I'm not going to have to flip the desk. Thank God. Thank God. Thank God. You're both music teachers. And for what, for what grade? I teach. Or I guess what ages? Yeah. I'm a middle school teacher. I teach band and orchestra and jazz. And I do a choir with six through 12th grade, six through 12th through 12 oh my god is it as fun as it seems on glee because it just looks like they're having such a good time i i can't stand glee because
Starting point is 00:52:52 it's so not real it's so not but i love the music the music of it is really really great and i've done some of those arrangers arrangements and with my groups before so there's that's always now you must have a kid, both of you, who you, I imagine this is exciting when so many of the children have good talent and average talent and it's just, they're living their best selves because they're expressing themselves
Starting point is 00:53:15 through music and song. But it must be so thrilling when you go, oh my God, we got one on the hook. We got a kid that's extra special. We got a few of those. And the really rewarding part is when that creates a feedback loop with other kids and they see that passion and it becomes contagious. They get inspired. They go, I want to be as good as so-and-so, right?
Starting point is 00:53:40 Very much. It's fun to watch. Oh, I want to be a teacher, Donald. You are a teacher. I occasionally would go to Northwestern where I went to college and try and give speeches and give back to the college kids in some way, which I should do again because I got so much out of it. It's so fulfilling. But you're doing this at such a young age where you're really shaped. These kids who are in your classes, they must love it. This is probably their favorite class,
Starting point is 00:54:08 right? For many of them. Yeah. For, for, for so many, it's the reason that they choose to come to school, you know, particularly now when we're all going through various struggles over the last couple of years, if you can tell a kid, Hey, you know, we'll get you out of a textbook and we'll get you out of, you know, all the rigors of your typical subjects and you can come in and create and, and be who you are and be accepted for who you are. And, um, that's, that's mostly what, mostly what everybody needs. How are you as a teacher? Um, um, are you able to teach any instrument? I mean, how does that work? That's a good question. So we actually, the short answer is yes.
Starting point is 00:54:49 We complement each other pretty well. Part of our collegiate training is learning how to play all these instruments so we can be effective instructors. But whatever I don't play, she plays and vice versa. So it sort of just, it worked out. Are there kids in your class that play any of the the instruments better than you that's the end goal uh that's what i would like yeah not yet no they will they will eventually they will eventually i just wondered if there's anyone who's like a mega standout i definitely have a few absolutely i love that i love that you're you're sharing music because it can be taught in so many ways there's so so many instruments. There's so many ways to use your voice. There's so many ways to be musical. And just opening the door for someone like you guys are talking about. Yeah, sure, there's standouts, but there's going to be somebody that takes what you teach them and take it to a level that you guys never
Starting point is 00:55:45 expected to ever ever see and the impact you're going to have on these children because of course some of course a few may pursue music but also the skill sets you're giving them to stand in front of an audience to have the courage to to put themselves out there to perform to work with each other i mean think of all the different skills you know we you think about all the bullshit there's an old paul simon lyric um when i think back on all the crap i learned in high school it's a wonder i can think at all um and you know there's a lot of stuff you learn that you're like why the fuck did i learn that i would have rather learned how to fix my car i'd rather learn how to do my taxes i'd rather learn how to play a fucking instrument
Starting point is 00:56:28 for the love of god um so my point is i'm is that you're teaching them a skill set that isn't just singing and and and or playing an instrument it's collaborating with their peers having the courage to stand in front of a group um you know so that's so important anytime you want to come on by and give the pitch man we'd love it and a lot of programs like you guys are doing good on your own it's where where are you where are you where where is this happening we live in a very little town called burn indiana near the fort wayne area and i teach in fort wayne and she's here in town he's from chicago and i'm from ohio and we kind of ended up in the middle fort wayne indiana in the middle
Starting point is 00:57:11 we have a friend that was on a show about the middle indiana neil flynn neil flynn isn't indiana considered the middle well that's what that's where the show takes place isn isn't it? I think. Oh, I guess it's a middle class that they're talking about on that one. I think. Yes, I think they're referencing being. But not in the middle of the country, because the middle of the country isn't Indiana.
Starting point is 00:57:36 I don't know. I don't know. All right. So do you guys have a question for us? Yes. Absolutely. We kind of thought we'd start with a fun one um you know for my musical you guys turned the sitcom scrubs into a musical
Starting point is 00:57:50 what musical would you then try to turn into a sitcom and who would you cast oh shit wow um if i could turn a musical into a sitcom wow that's a really hard that's a tough one they do it a lot you know uh okay so let's go disney musicals because that's probably ones that are easily viewed like they did cinderella and they made it so it wasn't a musical and that worked kind of i guess any of those fairy tales could work uh not as musical but if you like talking traditional broadway that's tough one that's way more verse than that yeah donald just knows disney musicals
Starting point is 00:58:37 i'm trying to think of what would be a good what's um um something rotten was a great musical that i really loved. I know this is sort of a weird reference because most people won't get it unless you're a Broadway geek, but I think that could make a good, that would have made a good series. They made noise. Bringing the funk would be a great live action series. Just take out all the tapping and all the music and
Starting point is 00:59:09 just have people talk oh my gosh so then what if you were to take oh he's he's his gear now well then what if you were to take you know something that's been on on tv you know if it was mash or cheers or i love lucy or you, something like that and put it on Broadway, what would you pick there? Oh, well, that's, I mean, you could do anything with that. Buffy the Vampire Slayer is a great Broadway show. All of these things, like when you really think about it, any television you could turn into a musical because you're adding an extra exciting element. Didn't Buffy, I didn't see it, but Buffy did a musical. It's one of the best TVs ever.
Starting point is 00:59:50 It's like this witch, or not a witch, it's like a demon comes to town or something like that and makes it so everybody has to sing. The shit's scary, too. It's not like there's a silent episode. Yo, you want to talk about dope television. Buffy the Vampire Slayer? Yo, there's a silent episode. Yo, you want to talk about dope television? Buffy the Vampire Slayer? Yo, that's some dope TV, B.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Joel is furiously nodding her head. Oh, it hits. It hits. It's 100, like, that's some dope TV. I've never seen an episode of Buffy. Have you, Dan? Oh, dude, it's good, man. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:18 It's good, B. Like, straight up, man. I'm not much of a vampire guy. As soon as you say vamp, I don't know, you don't have to give me the word. Well, this is the show that started it all, though. You know what I mean? Buffy, the movie, started all of that shit. And then the television.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Other than Dr. Acula, I'm not much interested in anyone else's telling. Dr. Acula would be a great musical. Dr. Acula the musical. Great musical. Maybe Alabama Jackson the musical. Alabama Jackson the musical. That would be a great musical. I'd love to make that musical. Adult Swim, the musical. Alabama Jackson, the musical. That'd be a great musical. I'd love to make that musical.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Adult Swim, let's make it. Absolutely. All right. What's your next question? We love watching shows repeatedly and tracking character development and evolution through those shows. Sometimes JD and Turk, as you guys have said, are indistinguishable from Zach and Donald. In what unexpected ways did these characters evolve during the show? And I guess in what unexpected ways did portraying these characters change you as people? It became, it's a great question. And it became more and more me and Donald because
Starting point is 01:01:19 Bill would like, you know, run out of storylines and he would just be like, what did you and Donald do this weekend? Bill would like, you know, run out of storylines and he would just be like, what did you and Donald do this weekend? And then it'd be in the next episode. And then it'd be in the next episode. No, we really, you know, because the characters, I think one of the reasons we got the parts was we were similar to the characters, really.
Starting point is 01:01:40 I mean, and then we leaned into it and Bill evolved the characters around us and around our strengths and around what we found funny. And thank God, you know, Bill and we, is that the way we say it? We and Bill? Bill and us? I don't know. It sounds fine to me. Have the same sense of humor. I'm not going to get upset about it.
Starting point is 01:02:02 I don't think that we um here's a great question i'm gonna build off of yours donald is there any way any way that you're nothing like turk no i mean i'm not a doctor like no i'm i, other than the obvious. I mean, like, personality-wise, I think you're pretty... I mean, he is... I'm a family man. A family man. You're very funny. Everything that I played in Turk was...
Starting point is 01:02:36 I don't like appletinis, and that upsets people, so I'm sorry to have to tell you that. Only ever had one. I love sports. I once tweeted that. I'm a huge i love sports like i once tweeted that i once tweeted that and everyone someone wrote everything i believed is a lie that's that's a little easy um yeah um i i i mean i i think that yeah i think i think as you see from as you hear from listening to the podcast we are we are quite similar i think to the
Starting point is 01:03:05 to the to the characters that's probably why the reasons this has been so popular for people because um it's kind of like just chilling with with jd and turk in a lot of ways except we're allowed to curse now and um and uh we we sometimes get explicit like when we had that couple on jewel we're due for them to come back um we need to check in okay see if there's been any evolution you mentioned them every single episode no we don't it's just the most fascinating no maybe fascinating situation maybe once a month i've ever heard it's the most jerry springer we ever got and we're kind of now now we know don't don't don't don't i don't think it's Jerry Springer it's just the most fascinating
Starting point is 01:03:45 situation we both are into what they were talking about and so we want to hear more we're curious they're very good guests but you guys are better all right it's time for Fort Wayne Indiana's favorite segment Donald it's time to fix your
Starting point is 01:04:02 life we have some new sound effects to go along with that fix your life! We have some new sound effects to go along with that one you just heard. I might try this one. Or I might try this one. That's Jerry Springer. That's Jerry Springer. That one is Jerry Springer.
Starting point is 01:04:23 You both listened to the last episode that you posted like this morning like whatever came up this okay so you've heard some of these sound effects the ever-pending sound pitch yeah pretty much my whole desk is sound pads now um all right go ahead how do we fix your life we're good at this we're all rusty we haven't had a guest in a moment so we're ready don. Donald, lean forward. Here we go. Donald, lean forward and go like this. So, our Fix Your Life is on behalf of fine arts teachers and students everywhere. We feel that, you know, a lot of our students are stressed and drained. Mental health is suffering in our schools. And the arts, as we said earlier, give students and communities a creative outlet
Starting point is 01:05:05 and an escape. But nationwide, a lot of these programs are facing cutbacks. You both clearly had meaningful arts experiences as part of your education. Drawing on those, how would you advocate for fine art programs in schools? Or help us advocate? Tell us. I mean, tell us. First of all, you've got a whole fuck ton of people listening right now. So tell us and them what to do. I know that this is a problem. I know that schools are cutting back on these programs because of budget cuts, particularly public schools.
Starting point is 01:05:42 That's where the hits are really taking it. You know, we go to private because of all of the budget cuts that are happening to public schools which is it's it's it's you know i've for people that are in public school and have to deal with some of these cutbacks it's very very scary like yeah you know schools in la there's a nurse that comes once a month you know what i mean there's no nurse stationed in schools so if your child has a nut allergy or if something happens
Starting point is 01:06:07 and a nurse just doesn't happen to be there that day, you know, it's like there's so many things. Gym, that's on its way out the door. You know what I mean? Physical education, that's out the door. And music, we've been fighting for music for how long now? And it still can't, you know uh and music that you know we've been fighting for music for how long now and and and and it still can't you know the bill still can't get passed to keep music in all schools it's such a it's so it's draining especially for someone who's in the arts you guys are in
Starting point is 01:06:37 arts and you're trying to teach the arts to kids i can't imagine all of the barriers you know like i don't know what your school is like but how do you get music into the school? Like it, maybe if you tell people, you know, about the problems that you're dealing with, maybe that'll help people. Maybe that'll make people want to invest. these meetings, these budget meetings where these decisions are made. I know they're all gone. Those meetings can get pretty wacky. But if you have people that come and can add, if you can rally the people in the community whose children have been affected positively by this, and especially not and probably bizarrely not even just like oh my god these amazing teachers made my son an incredible pianist or or guitarist or horn player that that they've changed him he's got confidence he's got he's got this he's got that he he He had friends that he's never made before. Talking about the impact, like that rant I went on before.
Starting point is 01:07:47 And having people advocate for the budget appropriation towards it, I assume, would be the best route, right? I mean, unfortunately, we're trying to fix your life, but you guys know the world of this better than we do. Yeah. It's so much more than just I go to class and play an instrument for 45 minutes and then leave. Like that's how a lot of people see it. Even the other teachers sometimes see it that way. But, but the kids will tell you also that that's not the case. And it's really hard to convince anyone in the community sometimes or in communities that it's, it's not just that it's so much. Well, these things get decided, you know, there, there, there are communities that it's, it's not just that it's so much.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Well, these things get decided, you know, there, there, there are, um, I guess it's the school board or it's the city council. I don't know. I'm sorry. I'm, I'm naive in this area, but I would, I would, I would rally if you're facing this in your town, you're listening to these two amazing music teachers. It's, it would be about rallying people to show up at those hearings and give testimonials and really discuss why it makes such a difference. parents because it just wouldn't, I don't even know if it would exist without, without hardcore getting sponsors, getting, you know, you know, that's why the, the, the school is outside is covered with like ads for realtors and, and, and, and things because they've, they've given money to have their giant, I'm a realtor in the neighborhood poster um you know anything like that that that's
Starting point is 01:09:27 outside the box that that raises that helps raise the money so the program uh well that's the only way that's the only way things are getting done is parents have to get involved even though you're going to a public school you got to treat it like a private school and put the money and invest back into the school in order to get some of these programs going. Yeah. That's, that's the honest to goodness truth. You can have a, you can have a, the government ain't going to do it. They're trying to stop public broadcasting.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Yo, I'm just saying, man, like, I don't want to get political. I'm going to shut the fuck up. You can have a, you can have a,
Starting point is 01:09:58 you can have a fundraising, um, a fundraising concert where, um, where, you know, maybe you guys play a little bit, maybe you guys play a little bit maybe the kids play a little bit maybe some of your adult friends who are like uh you know is a really talented play and and and and then and then the children play maybe some particular standouts have solos and
Starting point is 01:10:20 that kind of things just to just to and then maybe even at the fundraiser, the kids share why the program has meant so much to them. And then you do like, you know, you do like you auction off things like a personal piano lesson from one of you guys or, you know, things like that, things that are in the community. You get people to, you get parents to donate things. And I don't know, I know these aren't like
Starting point is 01:10:41 revolutionary ideas, but. It's just tough when you don't have the instruments and stuff like that to put on some of these shows. I know that that's what happens a lot also, you know. Well, I bet they could get a local place to donate some amps and some instruments. We're lucky. Yeah. Yeah, they could say this event is sponsored by so-and-so's music rental place. That'd be great.
Starting point is 01:11:06 That's actually a great idea. I know. But it doesn't happen that way all the time. You know, sometimes kids have to share instruments. Yeah. Right. And that sucks. You don't want to share a recorder with somebody.
Starting point is 01:11:18 I don't want to share anything. I don't want recorders at all. We asked that. Remember those sticks with the grooves? Do you still have the sticks with the grooves on them? No, we're out. We're that. Remember those sticks with the grooves? Do you still have the sticks with the grooves on them? We're, we're all the, you know,
Starting point is 01:11:30 yeah. I remember that from my childhood. That was the first thing they gave us was two sticks with the grooves in them. Oh yeah. Yeah. The rhythm. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Yeah. I was like, this is fun. This is class. Well, you guys have just, what are you going to say? What are you going to say?
Starting point is 01:11:49 It's, I mean, it's, it's a you know i think playing to the strengths of things like social media can also help like i i see so much kind of advocacy happen on things like tiktok right now because people take in so much media and listen to so much stuff via that and sharing the powers of music and music teaching through things like TikTok. And just, you know, I hate to put it this way, but like going viral with teaching people about music is a way to really show the power of teaching music in public schools and how underfunded it is. So I think if you can just, if you do a fundraiser, put videos of it on TikTok, if you see kids that are like, you know, espousing the values of music teaching, throw that on TikTok as well and just create a presence for yourself in a social media that people are taking in all the time. It's free, throw that on TikTok as well and just create a presence for yourself in a
Starting point is 01:12:25 social media that people are taking in all the time. It's, it's free. It's on your phone. And I think, you know, that's a way that you can get yourself out there. That's smart,
Starting point is 01:12:33 Dale. And I also think, you know, not to be a dead horse, but to, to, to really highlight, cause some parents will be,
Starting point is 01:12:39 some parents will be like, okay, great. I'm glad he's having a good time, but he needs to get a job. He's not going to be a guitar player um you need to highlight the the ways that these classes are are shaping them and and and and and making them better young men and women boys and girls whatever um in in ways that aren't even related to the instrument you know i think that parents who aren't who are like
Starting point is 01:13:03 oh great i'm glad he likes it but he's not going to be a tr You know, I think that parents who aren't, who were like, Oh great, I'm glad he likes it, but he's not going to be a trombone player. You know, you're, you're, you're explaining like, no, you don't understand the value this child is getting out of this class, you know? Yeah. All right. You're welcome. Hi, this is Shannon Doherty, host of the new podcast. Let's be clear with Shannon Doherty. Hi, this is Shannon Doherty, host of the new podcast, Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty.
Starting point is 01:13:31 You may know me from, let's see, 90210, Charmed, Mallrats, Heathers. Probably also know me from my stage four cancer diagnosis and sharing that journey with so many of you. There's something so authentic about a podcast. It's me connecting, me talking raw in the moment. That's what my goal is to give you, to talk about why I feel that cancer, to a certain extent, is a gift, what my responsibilities are as a person with cancer, because I think that there's something so much bigger than me.
Starting point is 01:14:01 And to be honest, I'm still trying to find out what that is. And maybe together, we'll find it. It's going to be honest, I'm still trying to find out what that is. And maybe together, we'll find it. It's going to be a wild ride. So I hope that you all tune in. Listen to Let's Be Clear with Shannon Doherty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This past season on my podcast, Here's the Thing, I spoke with more actors, musicians, policymakers, and so many other fascinating people, like actress and director Cheryl Hines. They were looking for an unknown actress
Starting point is 01:14:37 to play Larry David's wife. I said, well, how old is that guy? Isn't he old? And author David Sedaris. You know, like when you meet somebody and they'll say, well, I want to be a writer or I want to be an artist. And I say, well, is it all you care about? Because if it's not, it's going to be pretty hard for you if you're not on fire.
Starting point is 01:15:02 It's like opening the door of an oven and it's like, wow. You know, you take a step back. It's all they think about. It's all they talk about. It's all they care about. They don't have relationships. They're not good friends for other people. This is just what they're laser focused on. Listen to the new
Starting point is 01:15:20 season of Here's the Thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. in both film and television. His breakout role was in Fruitvale Station, playing Oscar Grant, which earned him widespread praise and numerous award nominations. His portrayal of Killmonger in Marvel's Black Panther, one of my favorites,
Starting point is 01:15:54 further solidified his status as one of Hollywood's leading actors, earning him widespread acclaim for his complex and compelling performance. In our conversation, Michael really opens up. You're going to love listening to it, and I can't wait for you to and compelling performance. In our conversation, Michael really opens up. You're going to love listening to it. And I can't wait for you to check it out. The closest to getting what you want is always the hardest.
Starting point is 01:16:12 It's always the feeling when you're getting ready. You know, people give up right before they get what they always wanted to get. People quit. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Bruce Bozzi. On the last season of Table for Two, we had some good times at the table enjoying lunch with some of the best guests you could possibly ask for. People like George Clooney, Julia Roberts, Scarlett Johansson, and the beautiful Sarah Jessica Parker, to name a few.
Starting point is 01:16:43 Table for Two is a bit different from other interview shows. We sit down at a great restaurant for a meal, maybe a glass of rosé, and the stories start flowing. It is intimate, revealing, and often hilarious. We're back for a second season, and the guests are going to be just as incredible. We'll be breaking bread with Colin Jost, Michael Mann, Divine Joy Randolph, just to name a few. And this time around, we're going even deeper and we'll have something new for you each week. We'll talk about the big breaks, heartbreaks, and of course, food. So I hope you'll pull up a chair and join us for the latest season.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Listen and subscribe to Table for Two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You're welcome. I don't know how well we did. I mean, we didn't really help that much. They helped us. They educated us. If anything, I know what you're going through, and I don't understand how this is such a, why this, not how, but why this is such an issue. Music opens up so many doors, so much.
Starting point is 01:17:55 It's mathematical. There's so many things that you can teach through music. And for some reason, people don't think it's useful, or at least the government doesn't think it's useful as far as educational goes. And that just makes no sense to me. For me, most of my education was in theater camp, but that's no different. It was a teacher teaching me. And it's where all my self-confidence for public speaking and being in front of people came from, all of it. I didn't learn that in the math class. I didn't learn that in a, in any other class. I learned it from, from having the,
Starting point is 01:18:32 the huevos to get on stage in front of people and, and have a great teachers push me and encourage me. And, and it made me someone who could perform and, and speak in front of people, which is an incredible skill to have for whatever you're going to be in your life. You know, that's not a skill set you're going to learn in any other class. True, true. Donald, say preach.
Starting point is 01:19:00 Chutch. You know what my favorite instrument is? Nobody gives a fuck what your favorite instrument is Zach Nobody cares No one gives two jackass shits
Starting point is 01:19:21 You honor me I really like the oboe. Really? Okay. Yeah. Yes. Beautiful when done well. It's beautiful when done well.
Starting point is 01:19:32 When done well. Yes. You hear it in scores a bunch, and I like movie scores. And a well-placed oboe is beautiful. Let's go out on that note. How can you beat the sentence, a well-placed oboe is beautiful. Let's go out on that note. How can you beat the sentence, a well-placed oboe is so beautiful? Well, I think Jenna got you beat. What did you want to say?
Starting point is 01:19:52 I was just wondering, I wondered if either of you play any instruments at all. Donald plays the skin flute. Oh, my God. You can't open that door. You can't open that door. And on that note, five, six, seven, eight. I said here's a story that we all should know. So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald. Mm-hmm.
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