Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - 619: My Cold Shower

Episode Date: July 19, 2022

On this week's episode, everyone is being rejected sexually and thus showers in "cold water" to starve off their desire. In the real world, we talk to a robotic surgeon and Zach explains what it's like directing superstar, Harrison Ford. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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No, you don't. I really do. I've been thinking a lot about you. Have you? While you were hanging out with Harrison Ford? I have been hanging out with Harrison Ford, you guys. It's pretty insane. So you've been thinking about us while you were hanging out with Harrison Ford.

I find that hard to believe i'm sorry i sent my picture i sent my nephew a picture of me directing harrison ford and um he said uh this is what do you call what it was like a bad guy in a movie like the origin story uh yeah villain story yeah yeah it's still it's still my nephew wrote this is donald still an origin story. My nephew wrote this is Donald's villain origin story. Oh my God. Right? I love him for that

because he's absolutely he's spot on. That's how it happens. I got to tell you the funniest thing. So I'm I'm directing this show with Harrison Ford

and Jason Segel and I'm having so much fun. But I drive on the Warner Brothers lot. And everybody's got COVID. By the way, yeah, that's not what I was going to say, but there's been like a spike.

L.A. County is like, we're going to have to put masks back on inside again. But it was in the news that like one of the major hot spots was the Warner Brothers lot. Which is where we're shooting. So obviously we're being so strict about masks and testing and everything. But anyway, I'm driving on the Warner Brothers lot,

which for those of you who don't know, in Hollywood, you see it actually in the beginning of Warner Brothers movies. They show all those giant airplane hangar-looking things. It's a very special place. It's where they've been making, one of the places they've been making movies since the 30s, where it all began. Every stage has listed on a plaque outside the door all the movies since the 30s where it all began. Every stage has a listed on a

plaque outside the door all the movies and TV shows that have been filmed there and it's just the kid in me is still geeked out every single time I'm working on one of these lots and I drive on. I pull into the gate and the guard says welcome back Mr. Braff I really love you on Bill's podcast

Stop it. That's so precious. Oh, my gosh. That's not precious. That's fucked up, man. It's hilarious. What a backhanded compliment. No, he was being silly.

He's a fan. He listens. In all honesty, this is Bill's podcast. When I really think about it, I mean, it's our podcast, but we talk about pretty much everything Bill Lawrence on this show. It's all Bill all the time. Yeah. Well, I'm working with him, and I'm having so much fun.

He's so good at what he does, and he's so funny. And Jason Segel is so cool. Couldn't be a nicer fellow. That's great. Oh, yes. Love to hear that. And Krista's in it, and she's hilarious. But, of course, the big story is Harrison Ford,

who said my name, like, for the first time, and I was like, oh, my God, he knows who I am. How long did Harrison Ford, who said my name like for the first time. And I was like, oh, my God, he knows who I am. How long did it take until he said your name? Well, like day one and two, you know, I was just, you know, I think they're all he's getting used to the idea that on series TV, the director is different every week. So I think that like, you know, he's never done that before. Right. And so at first, I think he was a little like, you know, he's super done that before. Right. And so at first I think he was a little like, you know,

he's super warm and kind obviously, but he, I think he's just a little like, you know, this is weird. The director changes every week kind of vibes. That's what I felt. But then,

you know, I think I'm pretty good at it. And he, I think since that actually he told me so much. So he started learning my name. That's great. He's worked with the best. And then he was like the best thing that happened the other day.

It was like one thing to be like, you know, should, is this where you want me on the mark? But it was another, like the other day he asked me like, like a, like a, like an acting note. He was like, Zach, do you think, oh, it's more like Zach, do you think I, and I was like, oh my God, he knows my name. And it appears to me he's acting. He's asking me an acting question. Were you able to, were you able to? Yeah, it was like about, my God, he knows my name. And it appears to me he's acting. He's asking me an acting question.

Were you able to? Yeah, it was like about, should I play it more? Do you think it's better more like this? Or should I be, or do you think the character is more like this? And I'm like, oh my God, we're not just talking blocking now. We're talking like performance. This is fucking amazing. That's awesome, dude.

That's so freaking awesome. It's so cool, man. It's so cool. Do you want to know the funniest shit? There was a character that they ran, I think, randomly named Luke. Just like someone he references. And I didn't even put two and two together. But he's like, which one of you is Luke?

And I was like, oh, my God, he said Luke. He said Luke. And then at a certain point, he forgot the name. He goes, what's his name? I go, you know the name Luke. And everybody laughed. It's just so crazy. I mean, like, there aren't that many movie stars anymore.

You know what I mean? He was one of the last movie stars. There's one movie star. Tom Cruise. Zendaya. No, Tom Cruise. That's it. Tom Cruise.

Okay. Tom Cruise. Did you see Top Gun? I haven't seen it, but it just beat Titanic. It's Paramount's biggest movie of all time. That's true. He's the one's biggest movie of all time that's true he's the one and only i think across 700 million just domestically yeah he's have you seen it no but everybody tells me to i haven't seen it i've seen it i went and saw it i went and saw it

i went and saw it and i was like i'm not gonna lie i went and saw not with hate in my heart as i'm walking into why did you have hate in your heart because i'm walking into the movie. Why do you have hate in your heart? Because I'm like, that first movie's so cheese, dude. Come on, man. It's bad. It's like, it doesn't, I mean, my wife loved, that's the only time I've seen it too. My wife loves it. She grew up on it.

My wife's like, if I got Casey up here right now, she'd be like, oh my God, right? She could, she'd probably start crying, talking about how much she loved Top Gun as a kid. You know what I mean? Right, right, right. So she's been begging me to go. And I'm like, I don't want to see that shit.

There's no black people in Top Gun. There's no fucking, you know what I mean? Like, I'm going down the list of hate. You know what I mean? Right. And she goes, come on, let's just go. And I'm like, no way. So her friend takes her to see it, right?

Her girlfriend takes her to see it. And she comes back and she's like, babe, I go to see all, I went and saw Guardians of the Galaxy with you. I go to see all your bullshit. You know what I mean? This is the one thing. She's like, I saw it. I'm willing to see it again.

Please come with me to see Top Gun. So I'm walking into the movie like, she threw air, she threw guilt at me. You know what I mean? This shit is so, I don't want to watch this, right? Right. Oh. He really loved it. Audience, he's covering his eyes.

He really loved it. Zach, it's one of the best movies ever made, dude. Wow. For real. For real. Wow. All right, you sold me wow for real for real like no bullshit like no bullshit like i don't know how to explain i don't know how to explain because look i'm a tom cruise fan but i'm the guy that only sees his movie movies once i don't go and see tom cruise movies

over and over again for some reason that's just not for me. This, there's only a couple of them. Risky Business, I've seen way more than once. You know what I mean? And I think maybe Cocktails, I've seen twice. But you know what I mean? That's a random two, but okay.

You know, but everything else, one time. This movie, I can't wait for it to come out on streaming so i can watch it over and over dude it is so in the jets dude it's so good it's so good all right dude like tom cruise is a true movie star man like i clowned for so long it's amazing you know because because he's he's the longevity he's had and he's kind of like the last one standing that can that can still do that solely on his name i mean obviously top

guns a property that people remember from from growing up but i mean it's just he's just he's like the last standing bonafide did you see the trailer for the next mission impossible no holy fuck dude yo this shit looks crazy dude this shit looks crazy dope like i can't i'm sitting there and i'm like oh my god it's caught up to me let me tell you something that i loved that you wouldn't have thought i loved what winning time you know i knew you'd love that i loved it and you know the best part about you know the best part of not love first of all you know the best part about winning time for me is i don't know the end so i was joking i was joking i was joking with jason siegel who's one of the stars and who's incredible in it all the all the performances in that show are excellent every

single actor and and wood Harris is his name? Yeah, yeah, he plays. Oh, he's going to win an award. He's incredible. He does a great job in it. And Tracy Letts, and of course, John C. Reilly. Anyway, I loved it. But the funny thing, I was joking with Jason Siegel

and Bill Lawrence, both big sports fans. I was like, the funny thing for me watching is, I don't know the ending. So I'm so caught up in it. And I find myself like alone in my house when they beat Boston. And like my arms are going up in the air. Like I'm alone. And I'm like cheering from my couch.

You had no clue. I had no idea. And then Jason was like, you know, when we went in the end. And I was like, spoilers. I was like, he's like, Oh, most people know that. But I'm telling you the audience, if you're not, obviously if you're a sports fan,

you gotta watch it. But even if you're not a sports fan, it's incredible. And you won't, you won't know how it unfolds. And obviously they're going to continue it because it's so good. And that was 1980. What year did Jordan come in? No, 79.

It was 79. No, I think they won in 80, I believe. 79, 80. It's the 79, 80 season. So what year does Jordan, do you know what year he comes into the picture? He's a few years later. Oh, because I'm interested now. I mean, I know they're going to continue.

Would it be interesting to know if they go right after or if they jump a few years and wait until Jordan comes into the mix. Well, they should go right after because the story that's – what's up? 84. 84. Oh, there you go. I didn't know that Larry Bird was such an asshole to Magic. No, this is based on a true story.

Come on now. No, but I think that they've said – Bill told me that they've since become, obviously in the years since, they've become friends, and Larry acknowledged that he was a jerk. That's what Bill said, at least. Well, look, okay, so here's the thing. Here's what I understand. A lot of this, we can't, like, because I understand that Jerry West is a little upset about how he's portrayed.

He definitely doesn't come off as great. How he's portrayed in this. I think he comes off fine to me. By the end, he does. But in the beginning, you're like, this is the worst person in the world. On the planet, right. And I don't think anybody wants to be portrayed as that. But from everything that I understand in watching sports through my eyes,

obviously, what he's done for the Laker organization, that I understand in watching sports through my eyes, obviously. What he's done for the Laker organization, the Memphis organization, he's bought in. Kobe Bryant is by far, that's him. Shaq organizing the deal to get Shaq to LA, that's him. So they can keep the story going for a long time. Oh, man, dude. It's so good. He really is the reason why the talent pool,

like his eye for talent when other people can't see it is amazing. Like he could tell you who's going to be good and who's not going to be. All you got to do is want to be a Laker fan. As the 80s go on, you'll see this, man. fan as the 80s get as the 80s go on you'll see this man like people like Kurt Rambis comes in and plays for the Lakers and you're like who the heck is this guy I was so happy when Darryl Dawkins appeared at the end as a 76er yeah because you know as I've told you before he was he was all I knew about basketball when my dad would drag me to go see the Nets. But he's portrayed in the end.

Wait, before we move on. It made me want to be a Laker fan, though, dude. I realized if you know all the stories, I mean, I know this is going to sound idiotic to people who love sports, but just bear with me. If you know all the soap opera and you know all the drama and you know everyone's unique stories, I could totally understand how you'd be so invested and

excited about it. Okay, so for the few point times in my life where I've gotten to hang out with NBA players like on a chill level, it's been with I've been invited to Jerry Buss' suite

and got to sit next to him and Magic Johnson before he passed away. Wow. And then one time I got to hang out, I was hanging out with Leo and Jerry Buss in the lounge, the Laker lounge that he's- Really? Right. So he continued going at Staples Center? Yeah.

His daughter owns the team now. I've been at a forum and stuff. I've seen them play at the forum when they were at the forum, too. Oh, really? That's interesting. Back in the day before they moved to... I've been out in LA for a while, bro. No, I didn't know what year they moved to the Staples Center

or whatever it's called now. Probably it's called the Bitcoin Arena or something. Anyway, both times I made an ass out of myself. One time I was trying to be like, you know, in the mix because they brought up money. And I was like, oh, yeah, let's talk about money. And I could tell that everybody was like, you dumbass. This is Jerry Buss. What are you doing?

You're just in your head. No one's analyzing. In my mind, that's what I thought. What are you doing? Just in your head. No one's analyzing him. In my mind, that's what I thought. And then the other time, I was like, well, because look, it's true. Jerry would make it so.

And this is just from the little bit of experience that I had and watching the show. When you went and hung out, it really did feel like that, where there were just like a lot of beautiful women around. There was a lot of food, a lot of drink, and freaking you're watching basketball and you're having a great time, right? Yeah. He created that environment. He created the showtime environment.

The Playboy Mansion meets sports. Yeah. And he did that successfully. Yeah. that successfully. And watching this show and watching John C. Reilly play this guy who's so on the verge of failure, really, this whole time, all it takes is just a little bit, just that one straw. We're just waiting for that one straw, especially if you don't know the outcome of the story.

If you know the outcome of the story, you're like, everything's going to be all right. Right. Everything's going to be all right. I was on the edge of my seat until Jason Siegel ruined it for me, gave me spoilers. Right. He's like, they're not really spoilers. Right.

But if you don't know, but if you do know, just watching, like, dang, he had this much going against him. I didn't know it was that close. If he would have lost that game, if they didn't win the championship. Yeah. And all that stuff about K if they didn't win the championship. Yeah. And all that stuff about Kareem going out at the end. First of all, the actors who I think are unknown to most people. I've never seen them before.

But the gentleman playing Kareem and the gentleman playing Magic, they're so good. They're so talented. The dude playing Buss. The dude playing freaking West. All of them. Wood. You said it all, man. Amazing. Wood's going to win the award, man.

He's fucking... That last episode when he does that monologue about his childhood. I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it. It was so good. Did he get nominated? I think it'll be next year but um right joel i don't know i believe so i think i don't know all i know because the emmys just came out the

nomination just came out so it would be next year okay anyway all i know is this it's been up i thought he he would get nominated for this but anyway all i know is this if they do another season and they skip ahead okay well if they ahead, I think they're doing a disservice. Because there's something really special about Magic Johnson and Larry Bird after that season and them developing their friendship. There's something really dope about the Boston-Laker rivalry. But not just that, just the two of them. And you got to build on that. You got to build on it.

I was just thinking the very little I know is that at a certain point, Jordan comes into the mix. And that's going to be really interesting, too. Well, when Jordan comes into the mix, HIV comes into the mix, too. Yeah, well, they end this. They start this. Remember, talking about him getting diagnosed. Yeah. Jordan, should we get into our show, Don't Face It?

Absolutely. We could totally get into the show. I'll talk about sports forever. Let's do it. And I just want to say one thing. Eat these balls, Zach. Eat, eat, eat, eat, Donald Faison? Absolutely. We could totally get into the show. I'll talk about sports forever. Let's do it. I just want to say one thing. Eat these balls, Zach. Eat, eat, eat, eat, eat these balls, Zach. Five, six, seven, eight. Here's some stories about a show we made.

About a bunch of docs and nurses and a janitor who loved me. I said here's some stories that we all should know. So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald. How are you, man? I'm good, man. I'm good. I miss you.

I miss your face. You look good. I feel like I've been run over by a truck. Dude. Why? Well, first, I'm smoking some of the best weed you've ever smoked in your life. Why? Two, man, these kids, it's summertime, and it's real in the field.

And the tricks that we were using in the beginning are no longer tricks. They become habits, and they can't be habits. Or both of these kids are going to go back to school not prepared for the grades that they're going into and so we're it's in crunch time mode now because we're at the end of the at the end of summer and uh it's been a lot of fun but preparation for the school year has begun oh well they got oh you mean you mean like they gotta they gotta do like uh homework or what do you mean like no just like just like-wise, training the brain to get ready to go back to school. You know, Rocco's going into third grade.

That's a big deal, man. Things get real at that age. You know what I mean? Homework comes home. Yeah, things get real. You know, and so. I saw them both kicking ass on the basketball court. Well, they're good at sports.

Rocco, those videos you posted, Rocco is killing it, dude. Dude, wilder, dude. I love Rocco. Rocco got game, and I've seen it, but I just can't get over the fact that my daughter's the smallest one on her team. She's, you know, very, very, like very, very shy, you know, when meeting people, like I took her to the zombie three premiere. And when she met all of the stars at first, it was like taking her on a ride at Disneyland where she didn't want to get on. And then after it was over, she was the best ride ever and wanted to do it again and again and again. Right. Right. And so like doing basketball

is kind of the same thing where you would think she'd get on the court and she'd be afraid to play. And at first she was, but once she got in there, like, now we can't get her off the court unless she's extremely tired. And she goes hard, dude. And she can get, she's aggressive. And I would have never expected that from Wilder. But she's like extremely aggressive. Like if the ball is near her, she's going for it. And it's really, it's amazing to watch. You created two little mini-me's. Well, I didn't play basketball growing up. I was a theater guy. You know what I mean? I know, but you love basketball.

So it's just, it's sweet that they love it too and you can share that. I'm trying to keep them away from theater as well. Like, it's really interesting. That's not going to happen with your daughter. Your daughter is a performer. I know. I got to send you the videos from dance camp.

But she's such a performer. There's no way that girl's not going to be a dancer or an actress or something. Yeah. We'll see. All right, let's talk about the show Scrubs, everybody. Elliot says yes. My cold shower. Now, one of the funniest talk about the show Scrubs, everybody. Elliot says yes. My cold shower. Now, one of the funniest things about the episode, mistake-wise,

is obviously none of us wanted to really get in a cold shower, so you can see a giant red mark on all of our chests when we're supposedly taking a cold shower. That thing is not as hot as... Especially mine. It was a set shower, you know, so they bring in like a hot water tank. But I remember, I'm laughing and every time they cut to me, there's a giant red spot in the middle of my chest.

And I'm like, that's not an ice cold shower, bro. That's a hot shower. Directed by John Inwood, who is our cinematographer for almost every single episode of Scrubs, and he directed this one. He did a great job, actually. He did a great job. And Elliot says yes.

Well, Elliot says yes, but then the ring doesn't fit, and she's livid. And then the Fricks come. Here come the Fricks. Just put the motherfricking ring on my motherfricking hand. Frick. Frick on a stick with a brick. Frick. Frick.

Double Frick. Double Frick. Motherfricking sounds really bad, even though it's just Frick. Yeah, it's Frick, though., frick. Double frick. Double frick. Motherfrick sounds really bad, even though it's just frick. Yeah, it's frick, though. Motherfrickin'. Yeah. So Ellie was pissed because she's been wanting this moment for her whole life, and she had it all planned, and she planned what she was going to say.

Yes, oh my God, yes. And when the ring doesn't fit her finger, the whole thing's ruined, and Keith offers the opportunity that she can replan the whole thing. Okay, I gotta call Casey. Because this is my life. Okay, play the song, Daniel. Casey, come down here. I don't

know nothing about raising these fools. So tell me what to do. I don't know nothing about raising these kids. And that's what it is. Yeah,'s what it is. Yeah, you did do that. Okay, now let me set this up real quick. Zach, I love you.

Zach, I love you. Zach, Zach, Zach, Zach, I love you. Zach, I love you. Hey, you planned your own proposal? What happened? So look, let me set the story. Let me set it up. Okay. She and I had been dating for a long time.

When we first met. Yeah, when we first met, she said to me, sorry, she said to me, look, I don't want to get married and I don't want to have children. And so immediately. Donald said, check. Right. Exactly. Let's go. I said, check.

Oh, check. Let's go home and do it? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I was like, check. Let's go do it. Right.

Anyway, cut to we're now dating for- Seven years. Seven years at this point, and she's now on that shit or get off the pot. Oh. I wanted a baby. I didn't want to get married, but I wanted a baby. Right. And then we tried to have a baby, and it was not working.

Right. So my doctor was like, you should pick up a hobby and so donald said why don't you plan a wedding oh so i was like oh okay no that's not how it went don't even try that shit don't even try that shit yeah and so i was like don't even try that shit because i needed to take my mind off of getting pregnant and focus on something. So I said, can we have a little backyard wedding in your backyard, Zach? No, that's not how this happened. So I started working on that. No.

Oh, but prior to that. Thank you. What the fuck are you doing? Well, I didn't want to get married, but I wanted a ring. Right. I did want that. So I knew exactly what I wanted. So look, so I'm like, I'm going to get her a ring,

but in my mind, I'm like, I'm going to Tiffany's to get this ring. I'll get her a ring from Tiffany's. And I tell her, I'm going to go get a ring from Tiffany's. And she's like, what? Don't you freaking do that. Well, because in my mind, I knew I'd get a ring from Tiffany's and I wouldn't get nothing else. She's like, don't spend too much money on the ring.

I'm like, let's be practical. All right, so then what happens? You went to Tiffany's and saw what the prices were. She's like, let's go on the ring hunt. Let's go on the diamond hunt. So she and I go to different places, and we go looking at diamonds. We went to every diamond store. We learned about diamonds.

We learned about diamonds, learned about clarity and everything. And then so finally we find this guy named Jason, right? Yeah. Jason of Beverly Hills. Yes. Give him a shout out. Love you. Give him a shout out.

And somehow convinced him to give us this really big diamond for a certain amount of money. I'm not going to say how much it is. Oh my God. This is off the side roads and onto the freeway. He's like, when do you want it delivered? And what did you say,

case? I don't know. You were like, I have a bunch of things that I have to do on, on, uh, this day. Can we have it by,

uh, whatever day it was that, that I proposed. Yeah. And you're like, and I'm like, all was that I proposed. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, all right, bet. So that day comes. She's like, I'm going to wait at home. No, you're wrong.

Yeah, I'm not. We were supposed to go pick it up. We were supposed to go pick it up. Right. And I came home. And I was like, you need to be showered. We're meeting him at 2 o'clock. I want my ring before they close.

He said he's going out of town and won't be back for six days. And I'm like, nope, we're coming today. I want this ring today. Right. And so you were running late. You were showering. I was pissed off because you were taking your sweet-ass time in the shower. And I was downstairs.

No, you weren't at the house yet. Yes, I was. And then you said, oh, my God, I got to find my phone. You ran down in the garage and I'm pissed off. And then you come back in through the studio at the Willow Glen house and you open, you hand me the box and I'm like, you ain't got this ring without me. That's not happening. She's making shit up now. You don't remember?

That sounds kind of romantic. I'm going to accept that. I'm going to accept that. That's exactly how it happened. Did he get down on one knee? No, you came into the house. You came running into the house like this. Is it here?

What? Oh, maybe that does kind of sound weird. Did he get down on one knee? I just remember him coming out of the garage. And I don't remember if he got down on one knee. All I remember is that he opened the box and part well before he opened the box part of me was pissed off this fucker went and got this ring without me and I didn't get to proof it first like this is my ring regardless like I

wanted to make sure it looked good before we took it right and so I'm pissed off kinda and then he opens the box and I remember the box had a fucking light in it. Yeah. And the ring was spinning. Oh, my God. Whoa. And I was like, and it was the bigger diamond. Oh, you didn't know that he did that?

Yes. No, because we had two diamonds to choose from. And I was like, I think I'll be happy with this size. Oh, and he went bigger. And really, I'm like, I do like that big one. But happy with that uh with this size oh and he went really you know I'm like I do like that big one but I know we can't afford that big one but I got the big one yes and then the best part of the story yeah high five Todd the best part you got the big one I got the big one the best part he was like I love you I love you and I was like oh my god I was like

can I go show my friends and I left and went over to Jessica's house. And all my friends came over. And I left Donald on the couch to pass out. And I didn't come home until midnight that night. So romantic. He was so mad at me. All right. We got to get on the show.

Thank you, Casey Cobb. We love you. We love you. I love you. We got to get on the show. Thank you, Casey Cobb. We love you. We love you.

I love you. Hey, my name's Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose. I just had a great conversation with Michael B. Jordan, and you can listen to it right now. Michael is known for his performances in both film and television. His breakout role was in Fruitvale Station, playing Oscar Grant, which earned him widespread praise and numerous award nominations. His portrayal of Killmonger in Marvel's Black Panther, one of my favorites, further solidified his status as one of Hollywood's leading actors

earning him widespread acclaim for his complex and compelling performance. In our conversation Michael really opens up, you're going to love listening to it, and I can't wait for you to check it out. The closest to getting what you want is always the hardest. It's always the feeling when you're getting ready. People give up right before they get what they've always wanted to get. People quit. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine you ask two people the same exact set of seven questions. I'm Minnie Driver,

and this was the idea I set out to explore in my podcast, Minnie Questions. This year, we bring a whole new group of guests to answer the same seven questions, including actress and star of the mega hit sitcom Friends, Courtney Cox. You can't go around it, so you just go through it. This is a roadblock.

It's going to catch you down the road. Go through it. Deal with it. Comedian, writer, and star of the series Catastrophe, Rob Delaney. I shouldn't feel guilty about my son's death.

He died of a brain tumor. It's part of what happens when your kid dies. Intellectually, you'll understand that it's not your fault, but you'll still feel guilty. Alt-rock icon, Liz Phair. That personal disaster

wrote Guyville. So everything comes out of a dead end. And many, many more. Join me on season three of Many Questions on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your favorite podcasts. Seven questions, limitless answers. Professional dancer Cheryl Burke has been part of Dancing with the Stars since the very beginning. 26 seasons of the samba, the rumba, and the cha-cha. 24 partners, six finals, and two Mirrorball trophies. She knows all the secrets, the behind-the-scenes

arguments, and the affairs, the flings, the flirting, and the fighting. It's time to tell all on her new podcast, Sex, Lies, and Spray Tans. We'll take you all the way back to season one and up through today for the dance floor drama like you wouldn't believe. Former partners, co-stars, friends, and frenemies will join Cheryl each week. Listen to Sex, Lies, and Spray Tans on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I love making space for women to share their stories. And that is why I'm excited to be part of Women Take the Mic, iHeartRadio's celebration of women who make music, influence change and create culture. All month long, your favorite voices from talk radio, music and podcasting will highlight the remarkable achievements made by women and discuss the most significant issues facing us today. Search Women Take the Mic to listen to a collection of International Women's Day episodes

from iHeart's top podcasts, including Angela Yee's Lip Service, The Psychology of Your Twenties, and Dear Chelsea. It is a great way to support women and discover your new favorite show. Listen to Women Take the Mic on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald. I love you. I love that story.

Everybody likes a little ass play, dude. All right. Everybody does like a little ass play, Zach. We have to talk about the TV show Scrubs, Donald. Well, that has something to do with it. All right, it did. That's a very sweet story. So everyone throughout the episode has fantasies about what it would be like

if they were married to Elliot, and yours is by far the funniest. I laughed out loud. Wow. You play like a preppy guy with a sweater around his. And she says, I'm jumping ahead, but she says, keep an eye on Lupita. I think some of the silverware has gone missing. Now, let me ask you a question.

Do you think... And then you turn around and you see this beautiful Latina woman in a maid's outfit. Bent over. Bent over in a maid's outfit. And Donald Turk goes I'll talk to her and then you reveal that it's

Carla and he picks her up and they go upstairs to make out and he's like damn I'm having fantasies about my own wife that's it's been so long since we had sex yeah let me ask you a question in that fantasy this is gonna get a little weird do you think that turk and lupita carla uh do you think she's using him for the fact that he

is uh rich and married and she's just trying to you know get that money or do you think she's in love with him and they're going to create the, like in the timeline of Turk and Carla meant to be even in the dream? This is such a weed. No, I think that Lupita is truly in love with Turk and, and they're going to run away one day. But that's the whole joke of it is like, he's supposed to be having a fantasy about another woman,

but he's fantasizing about his own wife. Okay. I'm going to say one more thing. I do fantasize about my own wife. I know. That's why you guys are so sweet together. Oh, man. It's funny. I get the joke and everything like that, but in real life, like—

Well, speaking of real life, much like your character, Turk needs sex, and she has not given sex for a very long time because she's post had a baby and she's not feeling it yet. Yeah. And Turk is dying because he really needs to be satisfied. Yes. We learned that Todd hasn't been late at all. You'd think that he's prolific, but he holds up a zero and goes, when the janitor asks him how many times he's had sex this year, he goes, bagel. Well, I want to go back because we didn't talk about this.

Everybody is really not concerned but sad for J.D. that he didn't get the girl. Right, right. You know what I mean? He's acting like he doesn't care. And he's acting like he, and for the most part, at this point, he doesn't care. One of my favorite lines is, pretty girls don't end up with the uggos. He goes, no, he goes, pretty girls end up with the uggos only in the movies. Yeah, only in the movie.

No, he goes, sadly, this is, Kelso says this to me, sadly, it's only in the movies where the pretty girl ends up with the uggo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thanks a lot, Bill. Leonard, Leonard one is very funny where he's like, let me tell you about loss.

Yeah, Leonard holds up his hook and says, I know about loss. Yeah, everyone's feeling bad for JD, but JD is seemingly obsessed for the bulk of the story with trying to have sex with Keri Russell's character. But he doesn't really want to have sex with her. He's being pressured into having sex with her by his best friend. Because his best friend, well, he's being pressured into having sex

with her by the whole hospital. Yes, when all the men learn that she had a threesome in college. With just three girls. Yeah, he goes, you go, damn, and all the men hit their table, which was funny. And then I go, was it two guys and a girl or a devil's threesome? She said three girls. And then I had to pick the drinks off the table for you and go, damn!

Mm-hmm. So she invites me to the hotel. This is a bit bizarre. I mean, it's fine that she just wants the kiss, but it's a little bit bizarre that she says, hey, come review a hotel room with me and climb into bed with me. Okay, so this is where we're at. Okay, so this is where we're at now. If it was a dude and the dude was like, come review a hotel with me, we'll have a bunch of fun. Hey, let's test out the bed and all of that stuff.

You wouldn't think anything of it. But because it's a hot chick, like, what i mean like this is actually coming from the guy this is coming from the guy who thought the animation room because this is like a very mixed signal situation and now i'm trying to think of what situation where someone's like come review a room with me but is it really but mix? No, no. This woman, this was like 20 years ago, if not more. It's probably 25 years ago. I had no money. Let me just tell you the story.

I had no money. Never dived into my name. And I knew a beautiful young woman who we were sort of hanging out. And she had this deal where she would review hotels. And her thing was that she had to go stay in the hotel and use all the services and and she would invite me when she had the night like she had to do everything she had to do room service she did the spa she had to do and i was broke it was like the greatest thing ever she most definitely um wanted to also hook up um so we did okay yeah that makes sense that

it doesn't say it it seems the invite right but like, and then we'll hook up and still hotel. But if your buddy was like, yo, dude, I got a fucking hotel. Let's go hang out in that shit. We'll use all the amenities. Maybe go to the casino downstairs. We'll do all of that shit. Are you expecting to fuck your buddy? Was I macking on them at the bar the other day?

Yeah, was I macking on them at the bar? Hold on. If I was macking with them at the bar, then then yes she's talking about macking and there's no touching too so that's pretty much stage kissing also like that's what she was but she was so up front about it too

it's nothing all it is is all we're doing is kissing all we're doing is kissing the minute you make a sound the minute you start touching me the minute you start doing all of that stuff we're not in this anymore. I could play that. Shit. I think anybody could play that game.

If the boundary is, if you go, we stop. Right. That's the impetus for the whole episode is that he endures it, but he needs a cold shower because he's so turned on. I mean, he's making out with the beautiful Keri Russell. But she told him from the gate. Right. But that doesn't mean that his peep isn't going to get erect. Right.

But my point is, I don't think she's sending mixed signals because she's not sending the signal. Well, she's not into him. She doesn't even recognize him. She thinks he's the other guy. Right. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly.

That's funny. That's funny. When I go, he's not going to look at me. What is he, Egyptian? Right. Exactly. That's funny. When I go, he's not going to look at me. What is he, Egyptian? Right. He's like, huh? Was there a story behind that guy? Is he the double?

What's that? Was there a story behind that guy? No, no. They specifically cast him. They found someone who kind of looked like me, but was different. But by the way, Donald, I think you mistaken for me. Yeah, at one point I'm talking to him. He doesn't even have any laughter in his eyes.

Let's take a break. When we take a break and we'll be right back with more Scrubs Rewatch Podcast. It's called Fake Doctors

from Friends, guys. Everybody likes a little ass play. Don't even act like you don't. Hey, my name's Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. I just had a great conversation with Michael B. Jordan Everybody likes a little ass play. Don't even act like you don't. which earned him widespread praise and numerous award nominations. His portrayal of Killmonger in Marvel's Black Panther, one of my favorites, further solidified his status as one of Hollywood's leading actors,

earning him widespread acclaim for his complex and compelling performance. In our conversation, Michael really opens up. You're going to love listening to it, and I can't wait for you to check it out. The closest to getting what you want is always the hardest. It's always the feeling when you're getting ready. You know, people give up right before they get what they always wanted to get. People quit. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine you ask two people the same exact set of seven questions. I'm Minnie Driver, and this was the idea I set out to explore in my podcast, Minnie Questions. This year, we bring a whole new group of guests to answer the same seven questions, including actress and star of the mega hit sitcom Friends, Courtney Cox. You can't go around it, so you just go through it. This is a roadblock. It's going to catch you down the road. Go through it. Deal with it. Comedian, writer, and star of the series Catastrophe, Rob Delaney. I shouldn't feel guilty about my son's death. He died of a brain tumor. It's part of what happens when your kid dies. Intellectually, you'll understand that it's not your fault, but you'll

still feel guilty. Old rock icon, Liz Phair. That personal disaster wrote Guyville. So everything comes out of a dead end. And many, many more. Join me on season three of Many Questions on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite podcasts. Seven questions, limitless answers. Professional dancer Cheryl Burke has been part of Dancing With The Stars since the very beginning.

26 seasons of the samba, the rumba, and the cha-cha. 24 partners, six finals, and two mirrorball trophies. She knows all the secrets, the behind-the-scenes arguments, and the affairs, the flings, the flirting, and the fighting. It's time to tell it all on her new podcast, Sex, Lies, and Spray Tans. We'll take you all the way back to season one and up through today for the dance floor drama like you wouldn't believe. Former partners, co-stars, friends, and frenemies will join Cheryl each week. Listen to Sex, Lies, and Spray Tans on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

It's Chelsea Handler, and if you listen to my podcast, Dear Chelsea, you know that I love making space for women to share their stories. And that is why I'm excited to be part of Women Take the Mic, iHeartRadio's celebration of women who make music, influence change, and create culture. All month long, your favorite voices from talk radio, music, and podcasting will highlight the remarkable achievements made by women and discuss the most significant issues facing us today. Search Women Take the Mic to listen to a collection of International Women's Day episodes from iHeart's top podcasts, including Angela Yee's Lip Service, The Psychology of Your 20s, and Dear Chelsea.

It is a great way to support women and discover your new favorite show. Listen to Women Take the Mic on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. or wherever you get your podcasts. Scrubs Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald. And we're back. All right, this yields one of the wackiest fantasies in all of Scrubs history. Well, which one? Because there's a couple of them. The Winter Wonderland.

Okay. The janitor one. But let's go back and just talk about the janitor one with Elliot because they say something at the end when they're like, these aren't our kids. So did they kidnap these kids? In the janitor's fantasy, end when they're like, these aren't our kids. So did they kidnap these kids? In the janitor's fantasy, yes, they've kidnapped all these children.

And made them wear janitor outfits and doctor outfits. And he mentions the fact that it would be tricky to get all those tiny clipboards and tiny brooms. And then at the end he says that they aren't our kids,

which leads the viewer to infer that they are kidnapped children. Stolen kids. Yes. Oh my God. Yeah. That's the janitor's fantasy for his future fidelity.

Okay, that was pretty wacky to me, but nothing. Nothing is as wacky. I think this is the most stoner fantasy, one of the most, along with one of the pumpkin thing and your testicle growing. It made me groin. Yeah. This one is, I jump into the bed,

and for some reason it's a winter wonderland. Yes. But in that winter wonderland carrie russell what's her character's name i keep calling her melody melody thank you uh is a is a mermaid turk arrives let's just let's just stop there i don't know how to have sex with her because no one's ever brought up since Splash. This hasn't come up. How do they have sex?

Although in Splash, when she's on land, she's a woman. So what, they have to go to land in order for Tom Hanks' character? I think so. I don't think that they're having sex underwater. No, they're not. There's no way. He goes to, when he goes to visit the family and everything at the end. They should have made Splash 2.

Did they make Splash 2? If they did, I know Tom Hanks stayed away. No, Tom Hanks wasn't in it. You can imagine Meatballs 2, they might have made Splash 2 without Tom Hanks. It would have been Eugene

Levy. But it's like Aquaman, dude. It's like Aquaman in that it all takes place underwater in her neighborhood. Oh, that just sounds like somebody's going to drown back then. Like, let's just be honest, man. Anyway, he can't figure out where to put it. That was back when we used to actually film movies underwater. Right.

Before CG. Anyway. Yeah. Remember that? There's that movie. The Abyss? No, there was one with Liev Schreiber and Dustin Hoffman and Morgan Freeman where they're all underwater. No, but remember, what was the one where Sam Jackson?

Joel, can you look up the one I'm talking about? Where he gets eaten by the shark? Deep Blue Sea? Deep Blue Sea. Which is the one with Liev Schreiber and Dustin Hoffman. And maybe it's either Morgan Freeman or Sam Jackson. One of them. I've got Sphere and 1988 film.

Was there like a Deep Star Six, Deep Blue Sea? What was the one with the? Samuel L. Jackson is in it. Sam Jackson is in the one with the shark Deep Blue Sea in Sphere Deepest Bluest My Hat Is Like A Shark's Fin

wait is that the one with the is that the one with LL Cool J's in yeah he has the soundtrack he plays the kitchen chef he has a bird a poly oh it's Samuel Jackson that I'm thinking of. He has a bird. A polly. Oh, it's Samuel Jackson that I'm thinking about.

Yeah. Yeah, Sam Jackson's in that too. Yeah, I think that's all underwater. Deepest, bluest, my head is like a shark's fin. That movie was... You didn't like it? I only saw pieces of it. I couldn't believe it existed. It's so good.

That shit is good, dude. Yeah, when I was a kid kid I used to love that shit dude you kidding me that shit was fire to me man at one point LL was like on the kitchen table or some shit like that floating with the bird trying to save the bird from the sharks

so the sharks get into the it's like a it's like an undersea station yeah man and the sharks get in. And the sharks get in there? Yeah. And the sharks get in because they're intelligent sharks. Is he rapping in the movie or is it just part of the soundtrack?

No, no, no. That's just the soundtrack. He's the chef in the movie. Such a good movie, man. When I was a kid, I used to think that was so good. And I wasn't even a kid. I was actually an adult. Yeah, I don't think it was as long ago as you'd be a kid.

Anyway, JD can't figure out where to have sex with the mer-woman. And you point, and she goes, that's a deal. Well, no, I show up out of nowhere. I'm sorry. He shows out of nowhere as a goat, goat Turk. Playing a, what would that be? What is that? A pan flute.

Is that what it is? Yeah, like Peter Pan. I think it's called a pan flute. Isn't that called a pan flute, Joelle? Can you look that up? Yes, it is. Because of Peter Pan. Isn't that called a pan flute, Joelle? Can you look that up? Yes, it is. Because of Peter Pan. Now, you're a part goat, part man.

There's probably a name for that mythological beast. Like a cenotaur or a minotaur. It's like a minotaur, but a goat. I looked it up for you guys. It's in the notes. I'm sorry. I didn't read them today. It's okay.

I'll find it. Yeah. It's like a I'll find it. Yeah. It's like a minotaur, but a goat. But I prefer to call it goat turd. Wasn't that what fawn was in the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe? That's who we're making a play on. So annoying. Well, then proceeds some dialogue that is pretty amazing.

She goes, that's a gill. And you go, yeah, it is. Yeah, it is. And I go, go Turk. That's my mermaid. And you go. My bad. It's so stupid.

It's so stupid. That's a good joke. Come on, man. That's a good joke. It's amazing, but it's so stupid. I love it. It's so bad. It's so stupid. That's a good joke. Come on, man. That's a good joke. No, it's amazing, but it's so stupid. I love it. It's so bad. That's a well.

It's so bad. That's such a good joke. I laughed out loud. That's a good dad joke. It's a great dad joke and a very surreal thing. Yeah. All right. So cold shower.

We learn that the two senior citizens have syphilis, which is a real thing. Even at the time of the airing, I'm sure we had the stat right, that STDs, because of drugs like Cialis and Viagra, seniors can now have sex a lot longer. And at least when this show aired, the stat was 300% rise in STD amongst seniors because they're all banging in nursing homes. I'm going to tell you something right now. I hope this is true. It is true.

I hope this is true. Yeah. Why not? Why not go out with a bang? I hope that when Casey and I are in our 60s and 70s and our kids aren't taking care of us because you know they're not going to. Don't say 60s. I think this is supposed to be like even though even though for some reason the woman is supposed to be in her 60s i think it's

reads more accurately like 80s well listen whenever it is i'm just saying this i mean they're in an old age home you're not in an old age home at 60 normally on scrubs you are i guess for some reason they decided to make that woman 60 I don't know why she was 68 okay whatever it is when I'm in whenever it is and Casey and I God willing

please healthy alive still together I hope I pray that we are banging like those two

I have a feeling you won't I have a feeling you won't need Cialis or Viagra I think you'll probably still be going strong. I hope and I pray you're right on that one as well.

Todd enters wearing a GILF t-shirt. Yes. Kudos to us for getting a GILF t-shirt on NBC in prime time. Do you think NBC knew at the time? No, I bet they didn't. I bet they had no idea what a gilf t-shirt meant just like all the radio stations didn't know skeet skeet skeet meant he said i hear there's a he said i hear there's a steel magnolia in room 309 that needs a little pruning

he really is open to any and all types of partners. Yeah. I thought the end bar scene was really moving. I found myself with a big smile across my face. So did I. My wife didn't see the first part where she said she was planning it. I had to explain that to her. And when she saw it and Elliot does the, oh, my God, yes. my god yes and she goes oh and I said well in the beginning of the show babe but Sarah still sold the shit out of it

even though even though the audience knew it was coming Sarah said she crushed it crushed it and it was really sweet I love the way it was filmed. And then, of course, it ends with JD with tears in his eyes. And he realizes that he doesn't have any feelings for Melody, that seeing this makes him realize he still has feelings for Elliot. And it ends with him in a cold shower. I thought that was really clever. Oh, sorry. I'm skipping one of the most important beats,

that you finally come around to jd's fantasy of what it would be like to elliot and he's so happy and in love and he says i love you i'm so happy that you're my wife and it's the simplest of fantasies also like all the other fantasies were so elaborate like yeah cox kills elliot you know. Kelso sits across, down a long table. I hate you or something. Yeah, I know. Carla has the best fantasy. Carla makes out with him.

Carla, yeah, Carla. What do they say? They're like, let's just get wine and go shoe shopping or something? Yeah, and then we can have sensual, something like, you know, cuddly sex. Tender, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And then, yeah, tender sex or some shit like that. Good episode. that good episode very good episode

do we have a guest today? we do alright we're going to take a break everybody and when we come back fuck your sound effects machine we're going to have a guest and it's going to be fun and laughter we'll be right back hey my name is Jay Shetty and I'm the host

of On Purpose. I just had a great conversation with Michael B. Jordan and you can listen to it right now. Michael is known for his performances in both film and television. His breakout role was in Fruitvale Station playing Oscar Grant, which earned him widespread praise and numerous award nominations. His portrayal of Killmonger in Marvel's Black Panther, one of my favorites, further solidified his status as one of Hollywood's leading actors, earning him widespread acclaim for his complex and compelling performance. In our conversation, Michael really opens up.

You're going to love listening to it, and I can't wait for you to check it out. The closest to getting what you want is always the hardest. It's always the feeling when you're getting ready, you know, people give up right before they get what they always wanted to get. People quit. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine you ask two people the same exact set of seven questions. I'm Minnie Driver, and this was the idea I set out to explore in my podcast, Minnie Questions. This year, we bring a whole new group of guests to answer the same seven questions, including actress and star of the mega hit sitcom Friends, Courtney Cox.

You can't go around it, so you just go through it. This is a roadblock. It's going to catch you down the road. Go through it. go through it. This is a roadblock. It's going to catch you down the road. Go through it. Deal with it. Comedian, writer, and star of the series Catastrophe, Rob Delaney. I shouldn't feel guilty about my son's death. He died of a brain tumor. It's part of what happens when your kid dies.

Intellectually, you'll understand that it's not your fault, but you'll still feel guilty. Old rock icon, Liz Phair. That personal disaster wrote Guyville. So everything comes out of a dead end. And many, many more. Join me on season three of Many Questions on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite podcasts.

Seven questions, limitless answers. Professional dancer Cheryl Burke has been part of Dancing With The Stars since the very beginning. 26 seasons of the samba, the rumba and the cha-cha. 24 partners, six finals and two mirrorball trophies. She knows all the secrets, the behind the scenes arguments and arguments, and the affairs, the flings, the flirting, and the fighting. It's time to tell it all on her new podcast, Sex, Lies, and Spray Tans. We'll take you all the way back to season one and up through today for the dance floor drama like you wouldn't believe.

Former partners, co-stars, friends, and frenemies will join Cheryl each week. Listen to Sex, Lies and Spray Tans on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. It's Chelsea Handler and if you listen to my podcast, Dear Chelsea, you know that I love making space for women to share their stories and that is why I'm excited to be part of Women Take the Mic, iHeartRadio's celebration of women who make music, influence,

change, and create culture. All month long, your favorite voices from talk radio, music, and podcasting will highlight the remarkable achievements made by women and discuss the most significant issues facing us today. Search Women Take the Mic to listen to a collection of International Women's Day episodes from iHeart's top podcasts, including Angela Yee's Lip Service, The Psychology of Your 20s, and Dear Chelsea. It is a great way to support women and discover your new favorite show. Listen to Women Take the Mic on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. wherever you get your podcasts. Scratch Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald.

What you trying to get into a day or two? You know. What you trying to do? What you trying to get into a day or two? What I do, what I do. All right. Check this out. Yes, go ahead, Donald. Tell us about our caller.

I think this is the first time you've organized a caller. I did. When it came into the group chat, I double-checked to make sure I was in the right text chain. Yeah. But Donald organized today's caller. Go ahead, Donald. So we went to the—I said it earlier.

We went to the Zombies 3 premiere. We took the kids. We took the girl, Wilder. She loves the movie. And so while there, we found out that the lead of the movie is actually Cameron Manheim's son, Milo Manheim. And we found this out because Cameron came up and introduced herself to us and offered, you know, would you like to meet to my kids? Would you like to meet my son? He's the star of the movie.

And in doing so, she introduced me to her nephew, who's a surgeon, who's a fan of Scrubs, who actually listens to the podcast. But he does something that's pretty unique. He's like a, I don't know what it's exactly called. It's like a robotic technician or some shit, like surgeon. Well, we're going to find out. Yeah, let's find out what it is. We got a caller who gave us a holler.

We can talk, start wars, or sing show tunes, you know, like a baller. Smoke some jazz cabbage, maybe talk about the episode. So come on, Joel, let's get the show on the road. Give it up for Noah Swann! Hi, Noah. Hey, Zach. Hey, Donald. What's up, man? Welcome to the podcast, sir. Welcome, welcome. It is such a pleasure to be here.

It's really a pleasure to meet both you guys. Well, we met already, bro. I just did the whole story on how we met, man, and you just made it look like we didn't meet. Calm down. He means on the show. He means on the show, Donald. That's correct, on the show. Now, I'm just so happy that you're a real surgeon, correct?

I am a real surgeon. And you listen to the podcast, which makes me very happy. Anytime I stumble across people in the real world that listen, I'm so excited. But particularly a real surgeon. We're lucky to have you on the show, and thank you for listening. Well, thank you guys so much. Growing up, everyone has certain shows that kind of give them guidance into what they're supposed to do. And when you apply for medical school, one of the things they caution you against is saying, I watched this medical trauma and that

got me involved. And Scrubs was the show that I had to, you know, bite my lip and say, I didn't watch this and it didn't influence me into going into medicine. It must be kind of interesting for you guys because there must be a lot of people like me watching your show growing up, you know, somehow got pushed in that direction because of you two. Yeah, we run into that all the time. And we always feel so honored that we did that, or indirectly we did that. And I have to say, we keep hearing for years, we've heard, and I hope you'll attest that this is true, that of all the medical shows, even though Scrubs was the most bizarre and wacky, that it's the most medically accurate of what the lifestyle is like.

In terms of training and residency and the interactions that happen, that's absolutely true. I mean, there's far more or less, you know, sex in the broom closet in scrubs and far more, you know, interdepartmental dynamics than there is in, say, you know, Grey's Anatomy or ER. So, I could absolutely. So, you're saying there's no sex in the broom closet in the real world? You know, maybe I did not do residency right. But at least in my residency. Sip take, sip take, sip take. That's right.

Sip take. Tell us what you actually do. Donald said you have a specialty in the heart, in the cardiac world. So it's not cardiac. I do robotics. So I do robotic and bariatric surgery. And robotic surgery is an extension of laparoscopic surgery. I know that your character, Turk, talks a lot about doing laparoscopy at different points during the show. And when you guys were filming Scrubs, robotics really hadn't come into its own as a field yet. And so it's the sort of the next evolution of laparoscopy. And so when you're doing laparoscopic surgery, you make small incisions in

people's bellies and you stick instruments in, you blow up their abdomen so you have room to operate. And then you basically have multiple graspers or cutting devices to do your operation. With the robot, you attach those devices to a robotic machine that allows you to both see in three dimensions, magnify your motions, and then the instruments are significantly more complex. So you have many more degrees of freedom in terms of how you move. And so the learning curve is much faster and you can be significantly more precise. And so I knew pretty early on when I saw the robot for the first time that this is how I sort of wanted to participate in the medical field and be a surgeon. And I was able to, you know, through a pretty circuitous path, achieve that. I initially

wanted to be a urologist and, you know, they do kidneys and then, you know, penile reconstruction and that kind of thing. But I, because they were the first doctors that really used the robot. And since then, the robot has become embraced by multiple other fields, including what I currently do now, which is bariatrics, which is weight loss surgery. And it's just going to continue to grow. So wait a second. Just slow down one second. So weight loss surgery meaning tying off stomachs?

So there is multiple types of weight loss surgeries. There is surgeries where you just remove a portion of the stomach, and that helps people both eat less and then has some hormonal effects. And then there's a variety of weight loss surgeries where you essentially replumb the GI tract and move around portions of the intestine. So you have less intestine to absorb food. You can treat things like diabetes. Patients who undergo

bariatric surgery have significant health improvements and all kinds of problems like hypertension, diabetes, and it's also been shown to improve cancer risks. So it's becoming increasingly popular. I was about to ask you, okay, if you're able to rearrange and shorten the intestines and stuff like that, how would this do against intestinal cancer and colon, colorectal cancer and stuff like that? So the actual surgery itself isn't really what reduces cancer risk. It's the weight loss that goes along with it. And so we just, we know that patients who suffer from obesity as their BMIs get higher, there are higher rates of cancer associated with that. And so by reversing that, we're able to bring those rates of cancer down.

And that's kind of a newer benefit that we're just showing and has come out in some of the more current research. Are people still doing the thing where they tie off the stomach or has that become less common? Well, there's a lap band. Isn't it called lap band? So I was wondering, the lap band was very popular in about 2010. And I don't know if you remember driving around Los Angeles at that time, but everywhere you look, there was a billboard for, you know, lose the weight. I just remember learning that people could actually eat like through it, right? Or like push it off or something. So that's one of the problems with the lap band. It had two major issues. One is that you're putting a foreign body around the stomach. And so it can slip, it can erode, it can cause problems like reflux or nausea. And the other problem is that the mechanism that works is it's just supposed

to reduce your appetite by constricting the stomach. Most other bariatric surgeries have some component of hormonal changes associated with them as well. So for patients who had the lap band, they could lose a certain percentage of weight, but many had problems and many gained it back. Probably about 30 or 40% of patients who had them did well and were really happy with their results, but a lot of them ended up getting second surgery. So that's not, so that's, sorry, Don, one more. That's not, so that's not in favor anymore. Now it's, now it's reducing the size of the stomach or the large intestines. So bariatric surgery is an area where lots of people have very strong opinions. And so there are people who will still be doing the lap band,

but it's being done with far less regularity than it was done 10 years ago. The most common surgery in America is called sleeve gastrectomy, where you staple off about 80% of the stomach. But people are also doing things like gastric bypass and other types of bypass surgeries as well. Go ahead, Donald.

Wow. What's the one that's, there's one that it wasn't the lap band. That's I know a few people died from trying to lose weight. Yeah. Yeah. Through surgery. Was it the lap? The lap band is the one that's really dangerous, though.

Also, there's a risk in doing any of this, obviously. But that was the one that I don't want to freaking get in trouble. I don't want to get sued by lap band. Well, good. We got a surgeon here who can answer your question. Go ahead. So the lap band was relatively safe. The mortality wasn't really the big problem. It had to do with

either eroding into the stomach or slipping. Bariatric surgery has a long history of trial and error. And early on, people would, the first surgeries, they basically bypassed, you know, 85% of the intestine and plugged the remainder of the intestine back in and only gave you about 100 centimeters to absorb. And patients had all kinds of nutritional deficiencies. The probably the most dangerous surgery that's being currently done in America, not that it's dangerous, but that it has the most possible side effects is called the do it, it'll switch. And you're basically moving about half of the intestine further down. And so you don't have that to absorb. And if you don't take the appropriate vitamins, then patients can have massive nutritional deficiencies that can be fatal.

And so some of those have come into the news. But in general, bariatric surgeries, if you have a good program and you follow along with a good nutritionist are very safe. Do you think robotics are going to be used in more and more surgeries? I mean, will it come to a point where everything is done through a small incision and robotics? I think there's always going to be room for open surgeries. There are many times where things are too stuck or you just don't have the robot available or it's absolutely necessary to know how to do that. Right now, across all fields, people are using the robot for elective

surgery, meaning not for emergencies. And slowly we're finding ways to do more emergent surgeries that way, but there's always going to be a need for someone who knows how to make a big bin line incision and stop bleeding or take their control contamination. That being said, I think the robot's going to continue to grow. Some of the major barriers to entry are cost and then training of personnel. So the system itself costs about a million and a half dollars. And then there's about $200,000 or $300,000 of maintenance a year. And it requires a whole set of training, not just for the surgeons who do it,

but for everyone else in the OR to know how to exchange the instruments and maintain the system. And so those are major barriers to entry, but at the same time, you can be so precise, and the operative experience is so excellent that there's been a real push to adoption. And there's an implication. Sorry. How long do you think until it's doing the procedure itself?

That's what I was about to say. When is nanotech? I'm thinking about like autopilot in a plane where the pilot's taking off and then he's hitting autopilot because, you know, the robot's going to, he's going to monitor the robot, but the robot's going to fly more accurately than a human being ever could, obviously with the monitoring of a human being.

Do you think something analogous will happen in the surgery world where you're saying, hey, do this, but I'm going to watch you to make sure you don't fuck up, but your accuracy as a computer could be better than a human's ever could? I hope that doesn't really happen in the next 30 years because that might be the end of my career. But it's going to happen at some point.

So they've already created robots that can do things like close skin together better than any human can. The thing with surgery is that it's not so much about the technical skill, although that's absolutely essential. It's every single thing you do is a separate decision. And making those decisions requires lots of expertise. And so I think it's going to be a while before we have a robot that can go in, interpret someone's anatomy, find out what the problem is, and then execute the right series of steps in order to do it

uh i may be able to tell a robot you know close this incision here and then walk away but i feel i think go have lunch yeah exactly but i think i'm probably secure over the next 20 or 30 years but you do believe that's i mean that's that has to be on the horizon right nanotech is on the horizon bro it has to be that's what it has to be what it's, right? Nanotech is on the horizon, bro. It has to be. That's what it's called? Is that what it's called, nanotech? Well, I'm thinking little tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny robots. Oh, like Innerspace? Like Iron Man. Do you remember Innerspace?

I do remember Innerspace, one of my favorite movies ever. It's a great movie. Dennis Quaid. Doc, did you see Innerspace? Goes inside. They shrink him down. So is this like a Miss Frizzle situation? I'm pretty well versed, but have not seen they shrink i know what movie you're watching tonight doc inner space shrink

they shrink dennis quaid down to the size of a freaking molecule almost and inject him into martin short yeah and wackiness ensues that's when it all go all craziness happens listen all i need to tell you is that martin short is do you watch the boys do you watch the boys i've seen dennis quaid's son in the boys yeah that's meg ryan's son too guess where they met when making inner space it all comes full circle noah well there we. You're bringing it back. Martin Short is so funny. I've been watching Only Murder in the Building. Oh my God, Zach, I started it and it's so good.

It's fun, right? But Martin Short, like, I just cut to him and I laugh. I just find him so funny. Did you ever see Three Amigos? Of course you've seen Three Amigos. Oh, I've seen Three Amigos. Great film. And did you ever see the Santa Claus 3, where he plays... Is that the face?

He's Jack Frost. He's Jack Frost. Yeah, he's Jack Frost. Well, I'm liking Only Murders in the Building, and he's very funny. It took me 25 years to realize that the Santa Claus was a pun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You were 25 years old when you found out, huh?

No, I watched the movie when I was 12, and 25 years later, I was like, oh, Claus means two things. Yeah. And you're a doctor, right? Yeah, that's right. Well, thank you for coming on, Noah. Do you have any questions for us? Oh, yeah. Do you have any questions for us?

I'd love to ask you guys a couple. So one of them has to do with my favorite thing about the show, which was your relationship with each other and sort of your bromance. How did you guys decide to sort of focus and highlight on that so much, given that at the time that wasn't something that was emphasized in pop culture? I think it was a combination of Bill had written it, you know, based on his friendships. And then Donald and I took it and ran with it. You know, Bill, it's funny. I was just working with him this week and now he's become a hugger. You know, it took 20 years.

He wrote these characters, but, like, he'd still, like, stick out his hand. We're like, Bill, no, we're hugging. No, we're hugging, bud. And so I think he created these characters. And then the magical thing happened that Donald and I really truly became as close as the characters in real life. And then he just started taking stories from our own life and making them that, and we would improv,

you know, as it was easy to easy for us to improv as the guys, because they were very similar to who we were. Yeah. Yeah. Turk, Turk and JD definitely broke down a lot of my own homophobia issues. You know what I mean?

Like having to do a lot of the things that we did definitely you know it's all look i love you no matter what if your life was on the line and i needed to do something to save you i would do that for you i'm so confused you'd put your penis in them if they needed it for their life absolutely that's what's what I was having to say. He's coding. He's coding. We need a giant cock inside him. You would do that? For you? Yeah. In a heartbeat. Thank you, baby.

Doc, does that ever come up in the medical field? Quickly needing a penis in someone's rectum? Oh my God. As I said, I didn't spend very much time inside the broom you know, the broom closets during residency. So I didn't get that experience very frequently. I just wondered if there was any situation in the ER where like, quick, we need a phallus in his rectum.

Well, I can tell you that my second day of residency, so, you know, I'm 48 hours in, I walk in, I'm on call. And my senior goes, I've got a rectum for you to disimpact. So literally, like I walk into work and 20 minutes later, I've got, you know, ankle or I guess, you know, like wrist deep in some guy's ass trying to take it, you know, disimpact some constipated stool. Yeah. OK, that's what I was going to ask you. So when you give me nose plugs. Yeah. Like, how does that work? Like, so you got to go up there and you got to be professional. How do you not in your mind say, oh, i'm one fisting this dude yeah like that's more like wearing him like a hand puppet right like how do you not how do you not that's the first thing and then two i'm actually pulling his doo-doo out of him now is it a doo-doo clog

is that the problem like there's too much doo-doo and it's clogged? When they're impacted, they basically have a stool ball that's so hard that it can't come out their rectum because it's too big. And then you take it, you have to reach in there and pull out the stool ball. You basically turn your finger and they're like, it becomes a popsicle. You kind of stick your finger in there and pull it out.

Do you ever like try and swish it like a three to the garbage can I can't say that I have You know what The rules of disinfection though are You're never supposed to make eye contact with the patient Once you start Because it could be sexual if you guys

Are looking at each other It could be sexual I mean it's already awkward for them it's kind of awkward for you as you were saying you're doing everything you can to maintain your professionalism that's what i'm trying to say like being a doctor you have a license to you have a license to see things that you wouldn't necessarily see normally like like one the inside of people right you wouldn't normally get to see those things. That, too.

I always found it awkward when your doctor's like, all right, let me see your stuff. Now, I know they're being professional. And automatically, I'm like, yeah, sure, here's my shit. There's my junk. You know what I mean? But truth, in the truth of the matter, we're so caught up in it in other situations. Like, I would never do that in front of you know a bunch of people out of nowhere because i don't want to go to jail but you're prepared you

know when you're going to get your physical that you're going to at some point drop your drawers and at some point bend over and and let him digitally penetrate you yes do you know that I have to have my first colonoscopy, doctor? And I've never had that. It's after 45, right? Exactly. They moved the guidelines up five years. So it's 45 now. Donald has had his.

But I'm talking to the doctor. I'm talking to him before because I haven't had it yet. I think it's coming up this week. And he says he's asking all these questions. And he goes, I'm going to do an endoscopy as well for X, Y, Z reasons. And I thought I was being clever, and I said, don't use the same camera. And he said, do you know how many people make that joke? And I was like, oh, I thought I was being original. I was like, come on, you're going to give me a courtesy laugh doc you know here we go

well you know it's um it's always a scary experience for your first time uh the one thing that you know you should take solace in is that it's july so that means there's going to be a whole fresh new group uh crop of interns and residents starting. So, you know, you may be someone's first colonoscopy. No, no, no, no. Well, maybe assisting, but I know the guy who's doing it. He's going to be operating the camera. Okay.

Now, they give you propofil, right? Propofil. Is that what it's called? Propofil. I remember coming out of, because I have had an endoscopy before, and I was weak, and I couldn't stop talking. Does that happen a lot when people are coming out of because I have had an endoscopy before and I was weak and I couldn't stop talking does that happen a lot when people come out of pro-fil? they're like speaking a lot well yeah I had that in my throat when I came out

no I'm talking about like I was just talking I was like doc this feels so good like what is this drug you're using and then he the doc told me that like I don't know if he was joking or not but he said maybe it wasn't pro-fil but he said this is the drug the CIA used to use on people because they just couldn't

stop talking they were just like just spilling their guts like so they may have been using a different drug on you uh it might have been ketamine and people tend to uh often speak when they when they come out of ketamine pools um i was in a k-hole you tend to be in a fucking k-hole dude you put me in a k-hole god knows what happened a fucking K-hole, dude. He put me in a K-hole. God knows what happened. He probably went out partying. I remember telling him, I couldn't stop talking. I was like, doc, this feels so good. Like, would you ever want to hang out with me and my friends? You know those things you think back that you said that you cringe?

Well, on my list is on whatever drug, can't stop talking, asking the doctor to bring this drug and hang out with me and my friends. Oh dude. I said, I said, I have the, for my colonoscopy, I have one of the most cringeworthy statements ever said to a doctor.

On the drug? On the drug. What'd you say? No, before the drug. Oh, before the drug. Before the drug.

You can't blame it on the drug. He's about to put the drug in me. And I look at him, I go, tell me when you put it in because i want to feel it cringe cringe meaning i want to be high for that split i want to feel the high it does feel good second it does feel great before i'm in dharma before i go there freaking but i gotta say when I felt it for the endoscopy there's like a split couple seconds where you're like oh this must be

what like heroin feels like or something cause this is amazing and then you're out I was like tell me I remember saying that to him and then after saying that being like damn I sound like a fucking addict he's like it's in you and i was

like yeah it is um all right we gotta wrap it up donald faze on no noah you've been an amazing guest thank you for educating us uh everyone go get your colonoscopy if you're 45 and above. And if you're lucky, before the robots take over, maybe, well, if you're unlucky, and you get lucky enough to have a surgeon like Noah and his robot and his R2 unit operate on you.

Did you name the robot? The robots where we work are named after the WALL-E movie. So we have Evie and WALL-E as two of the robots. I love that movie. Great movie, actually. WALL-E. WALL-E.

Eva. Eva. WALL-E. All right, everybody. Thank you for tuning in. We love you so much. And- Eva.

Eat these bowls, Zach. Any last thoughts, Donald Faison? Wally! Joelle, any last thoughts? No, have a great week. Oh, wait, I do want to say something. OK, go ahead. Wait, so somebody asked me, is there

a place where you can find the sheet music for I'm No Superman. And I'm coming to you, Zach, because you have a relationship with the band Lazlo Bane. If we could find a way to get that out there, maybe that would be kind of cool. It would be kind of interesting to hear. Oh, different people riff on it. Different people's interpretation of I'm No Superman.

I will reach out. But with the actual music. You want the chords or the piano music? I think they're looking for the piano. All right. I will inquire about that. And hey, I want to talk to you about some of Alameda's music. Yeah, man.

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