Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - Aisha Tyler for President!

Episode Date: September 17, 2024

Queen of the Internet, the video game icon, and the Friends color barrier breaker, Aisha Tyler, breaks down her career from Talk Soup to her new brand of cocktails, losophe. She talks about the legacy of Friends and the animal that is sitcom performing. She and Donald gush about their love of animation. Tyler's role as Lana Cane on Archer came about because of her passion for Sealab 2021. Plus, Tyler talks about how her relationship with video games has changed as she's gotten older and what mainstays have never left her council. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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or on the I Heart Radio app. There they are, Daniel, we missed you. Welcome back to the program. Thank you, happy to be here. How is everyone? Donald, you look fly, you look happy. You like my shirt? Yeah, you're not wearing your- That's got? Yeah, you're not wearing your sweatshirt,

your Mickey Mouse sweatshirt. It's too hot for the Mickey Mouse sweatshirt. It's like 175 degrees outside right now. It's so hot, but I love it. It's Tatooine hot. It's hot, it's hotter where you live though. You live on Mars. I don't live on Mars, I live in freaking, I live on Tatooine.

Yeah. The dual suns. I've been to your house and your wife said, don't come over before four. It'll be too hot. I love that my wife sounds like a prospector. Casey said for your birthday, she's like, I don't think we should have everybody over before four. And I was like, why? It's a birthday barbecue, of course. And she's like, I don't think we should have everybody over before four. And I was like, why?

It's a birthday barbecue, of course. And she's like, you'll see. And then I got there at like four, I was like, fuck, it's hot. Yeah. I'm a little bit bored in LA. Can we say this? Well, you're a single person. Like Kendrick Lamar.

Hey, what? I believe that it was Chris Rock who said, um, um, married and bored. Oh, is it single and lonely? Married and bored. Married and bored? Single and... What's the saying, Donald? Ay, what?

What's the saying? Married and bored, single and lonely. Yeah, I think LA really magnifies that. Because I'm not saying you're bored if you're married in LA, don't get me wrong. But these people with their kids and they got the basketball game. Oh, you can eat a dick, bro.

You can eat a dick. No, I'm just saying you have so much to do. You can just stop. You have so much to do, you don't have time to realize you're bored. Stop it, Zach. Stop it, Zach. I think LA from-

So you gotta take your friends out on dates. I know. That's what I've been doing lately. I just call all my friends, take them out on dates. What do you do? When you're single in LA, what's your trick to not be bored because all your friends are taking their kids

to basketball tournaments? I just wanna tell you that I'm from a different generation. None of my friends have children. My very first friend is pregnant, except the ones I left in high school. All of my like adult friends, no babies. So it's just a little different. So we're constantly just calling each other,

being like, let's go do something. I'm just always out with my single friends. Like, where are we going next? I just take them out. I'm gonna be honest with you, Zach. I'm gonna be honest with you. You stayed single too long, and now all of your freaking single friends

are freaking married with kids and you sitting here having to freaking understand, yo, why you gotta freaking be done with the podcast by 3.30 or why you gotta, you know, or you have to understand, wait, you're going to Anaheim this weekend again for basketball? You gotta understand these things. This is what happens when you commit to something.

Right. And put seed in something. When you put your seed, you put a lot of seed into a lot of things. I put seed everywhere. You threw seed like a gardener on a lawn. Yay! Seed! Seed!

Your seed was like, you know that thing they put the machine, they fill it with seed and then they roll it? That's what your seed did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, they're wild. Well, I guess my long-winded way of saying when you are single, New York City is a whole lot more fun than LA. That's just my hot take.

What makes New York more exciting? Cause I do begin bored out here sometimes. Everything's still spread out. Thank you, Joelle. It took you a moment to fucking give me an amen. Sorry. It's just in New York, there's pedestrians. I don't know if you've heard of this,

but in other cities they have pedestrians. People walk on the sidewalks? Yeah, you can walk places and you can like run into people and you can be like, oh, hey, Tony, good to see you. Do you wanna grab a drink and catch up? Can you imagine that? No, we have to plan a month in advance. It's just way more social.

And even if you don't have anything going on, you just walk around and people watch. And you just, you know, there's just so much to do just walking around and looking at the world. And I think in LA, you know, there are a couple neighborhoods that have where you can walk around, but I don't live in one. And I just find it a bit isolating. I'm sure people can relate. If you're not in a relationship and you don't have kids

and you're not in your 20s or whatever, partying like crazy, I think it gets a little bit boring. You know what you need, Ben? What? An animation room. My God. Oh, shit. Yeah, maybe I do need a hobby. That's another thing. My hobby is like going to the arts and seeing things in New York. I see so many plays and I go to I just wander into galleries and that shit. It's not the same out here. I've been to several theaters and it's just not hitting.

You need a girlfriend. Your diagnosis is that I need a girlfriend? That's your diagnosis? You need a girlfriend, bro. I'm telling you, you need, or a friend, you need somebody to go out there. A friend. Damn, dude.

I have friends. No, not, but like a friend that you can hang out with and kiss on and you know a girlfriend I don't want to kiss on someone who's not a girl Jim I'm not gay, but we hang out and I kiss on them I was trying to be General with everyone you need somebody to get out there with and enjoy and enjoy these hobbies, these things that you like.

I think, yeah, I think I need to cuff up as they say. When's cuffing season, Joelle? That starts in November. No, it's not. Oh, November. You're not trying to cuff in the heat. Gross. Cuffing season is for the winter.

Listen, in the summer. I ain't afraiding season is for the winter. Listen, is it summer? I ain't afraid of sweat. I ain't afraid of sweat. Donald, the idea of cuffing season is that it's cold and you can no longer see bodies. You're like, I don't know what these people look like under their giant coats. I don't know what's really happening under masks and hats.

It's such a cuff and choose one for the winter. I thought cuffing season was the sound of the sweat. No, it's coughing like you throw handcuffs on a person, right? Oh, I thought it was cupping like cup, like when the sweat cup the two bodies get together. And it's like a weirdo climbing. You get those bruises on your back. Yeah, and you get the bruises on your back. Doesn't it come from like you're putting handcuffs on someone, you're cuffing them? I believe that is the idea. It's like we are now connected to one another.

We have cuffed each other. Yeah. Which way do I change that language? I don't know that I'm ready to cuff up. Maybe I will. I mean, if I met the right person, I would cuff early. I don't want to wait till November. You got the right one.

You got to immediately. I'm fine to cuff early. Get your cuff on, yo. Yeah, is July too early to cuff, Joelle? You think it's too hot? I think the summer is for playing the board and Paul and Richard for landing the plane. But you know, do you if you're like, hey, this is the one. No, I'm gonna take Joelle's advice.

I'm gonna wait to cuff. It's only a couple more months. It's only a few more months. I'm just a bit bored. I think I just gotta get out of here. Back to New York? Yeah, I'm gonna get the fuck out of here because there's nothing to do here. All my friends are cuffed and they have little cufflings.

They take their little cufflings to basketball tournaments and don't want to do anything. So wait, can you correct something for me? I understand this controversy about LeBron's son. Are haters saying that, are the haters saying, and I don't know anything about basketball, that he's not good enough to be on the team? No, that's not true. They're just saying, no, that's not true. They're just saying, yes. No, that's not. That's what they're saying. It's absolutely saying that.

But that's not, that's not one person is saying that and not one serious person about sports who understands sports is saying that. What are they fucking haters are saying that. But the thing is, they're saying he's good, but nobody's ever been the 55th pick in the draft and has gotten its much hype. So because LeBron is not just as much hype, Donald, this much money, right? He got a fat check. He's got a heart condition.

His nepotism, man. Listen. Yes. Listen, I'm going to keep it 100. If you're going to bet on anybody, aren't't you gonna bet on LeBron's kid? The kid who's been going through the training his whole life and all that stuff? We didn't bet on Michael Jordan's children.

Michael Jordan's kids didn't do what LeBron's kids did. You guys, I'm gonna be honest with you. They went to college, they played. Let's see how this pans out. Let's see how this pans out. Give it the three years, four years situation. Let's see how this pans out. Let's see how this pans out. Give it the three years, four years situation. Let's see how this pans out. I think a lot of people are gonna be like,

yo man, I was wrong. LeBron is pretty good, man. Bronny Jr., I guarantee it. You can already see the kid has the... Is his name LeBron Jr.? Yes. And they call him Bronny? That's his nickname?

I need to be educated on this. All right. Well, we're gonna stay tuned everyone I'm gonna see how brawny does. All right. Are you ready? Donald Do you know Aisha Tyler? We've hung out a couple of times Now I want to ask her the very first question that's on my mind and I'm very excited Because Aisha covers a lot of subjects that you like,

including video games and Star Wars and animation. And you saying there's never any black people on friends. Well, that's the one thing I want to talk to her about. She freaking broke the matrix. Everybody's like, wait a second. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Count us in baby girl. Five, six, seven, eight. That's what we all should know So gather round to hear our

Gather round to hear our Spurs Rewatch show with Zach and Dono Yeah! Oh snap, she's in the booth Wow! What? Hi guys! Why have you not aged one hour? What the fuck?

Oh, I've been Adrena-chroming I don't know if you guys have heard about Adrena-chroming. It's so great. What are you saying? Adrena-chroming. What's Adrena-chroming? Oh, drinking baby's blood, you know. Check out the internet. You look 21 years old and I have aged and you haven't.

You look as handsome as ever, radiating masculine energy through my computer, the both of you. Welcome to the program. You know Donald and that's our DJ, Danel's our engineer. That's Joelle Monique, our producer. Hi guys. Danel's going to ask you about your sound. Go ahead, Danel. Real quick.

Hi Aisha, pleasure to meet you. Hi. Hi. Do you happen to be wearing headphones at the moment? I'm wearing earbuds. That rules, great. Yeah. It looks like you are in a quiet space.

I am in a sound booth in my house. Oh my God. Because I'm a douche bag. Like I have a sound booth in my house. No, you're making that money. You're making that money. You're making that V-O money. You're making that V.

Everybody understands. All right, welcome to the program. All right, Dan, stop talking. All right. Welcome to the program. That's it. Thank you. All right, Danel, stop talking. Aisha, welcome to the program. We're so happy to have you. I guess, Aisha. Poor Danel.

I already see what the dynamic is here. Danel, Danel, Aisha. Danel, get back here. Hi, Danel. It's nice to meet you, Danel. Say hi. All right. Now, now you can fuck off.

All right. He just likes to do his monologue. We're so happy to have you. We have so many things to ask you about. It's so good to see you. There's so many areas where our lives overlap. Most importantly, we want to start right off the bat because Donald has always said

that there were no black people on Friends. You broke the matrix. You broke the Friends matrix. And Donald has, we were gonna, when we finished doing a Scrubs We Watch program, we said maybe we should watch Friends. And Donald said, we were gonna, when we finished doing the scrubs, we watch a program, we said, maybe we should watch Friends. And Donald said, no, Aisha's the only black person that's ever been on Friends. You vetoed it immediately.

Tell us about that. There were other black people on Friends. Like now I realized that they might've been stress testing the concept, right? Because Gabby Union was on for one episode and she also dated Joey, right? Because Gabby Union was on for one episode and she also dated Joey, right? And then I literally just the other day, I realized that Sherri Shepherd was on there.

I'm not quite sure, but she was, right? So they were, they kept dipping their toe into the tepid waters of diversity and pulling back. You're telling me Sherri Shepherd had more than one scene on Fringe? It was probably just one scene on Friends? It was probably just one scene. And there was a black guy.

There were a couple of black people at the office, right? Joelle, I feel like Joelle was the authoritative person. Joelle knows pop culture. I watched a ton of Friends. Why can't I think of her name? The dark skinned Jack Humbert. Yeah, that's why. Dark skinned book, Eviv was on it, and she was great too.

But it's a lot of like, most of, I think all except for maybe Eli Show like is one episode kind of feature. Yeah. Like a one-off. Aisha, tell us about your experience on that just right off the bat because I think it's the most it's got to be the most popular sitcom of all time it seems to me. And it still is I think. Yeah, it keeps going. Every generation continues to find it. And I wondered if you had a good time. What was it like? I did. I mean, I did have a good time. You know, Donald's protestations to the side. I mean, like it was, it was the biggest show on TV at that time. And I was very confident I wasn't going to get the job. So that was cool. You know what I mean? Like, I know sometimes you go and

you're like, well, this is going to be fine. I'll get to meet some friends. I'm never going to work here. So maybe I was a little bit more relaxed than other people. But I do remember very vividly that at the time I was doing stand up full time, which meant that I was a vampire. So you know, you stay up to two in the morning, you sleep until 10 or 12. You have two bowls of Cocoa Puffs, you watch some cartoons. And then I would watch the friends reruns right from five to six o'clock on like KTLA 5. So by the time, see Joel knows what I'm talking about. So by the time that I went in for the audition, the only thing I did know was that I had seen every episode of Friends.

That's good. That's good prep. And you guys are both, you know, extraordinary comedic actors. And so, you know, like comedy and specifically like sitcom comedy, is its own animal. It has its own math. It's own cadence. I never got callbacks for them because I couldn't figure out the math. I mean, I can- You didn't study. You gotta study. Until you were the star

of a massive hit show. I'm like, you gotta study, bro. I'm not being self-deprecating. I had been in theater, I had done plays, but I never, I mean, and I'm not saying that I couldn't, if I tried now, but I- You crush. Every time you've been on a sitcom, you crush, but okay. Thank you. Yeah. But I never, in, but I never, I mean, I'm not saying that I couldn't, if I tried now, but I- You crushed, every time you've been on a sitcom, you crushed, but okay.

Thank you, but I never, in auditioning for them, I never could quite get that rhythm right. Because you weren't studying back then. It's very specific. And Aisha did it. She would come on, she said it, you said it yourself. You would get off the stage, go home and watch sitcoms. But it's funny because it was so, even looking back at it now, I think,

and that show is still so popular. It there's such a specificity to four camera comedy, even different from like Scrubs, which was single camera. And you guys could be more naturalistic. And you had a lot more kind of like character stuff that was just like, but that pandemic had this really specific keyless. So all I knew going in was like, well, I know how to tell a friend's joke. That So all I knew going in was like, well, I know how to tell a friend's joke.

That's all I knew. I was like, I know how to tell. I know how this joke is supposed to sound, right? Whether I'm gonna do it well or not, whether they're gonna like me, I know how to tell it. And I remember that I walked in and I know you guys have had this experience. I walked in and there was just like

so many fucking famous people there. And I was not one of them. And like Lisa Bonet was down the hallway. I was like, well, I just need to get back in the car and go to the bottle. This is never gonna happen for me. I've had the exact opposite experience. Where you were the most famous person.

Where my manager was like, this is the worst. My manager was like, it's a special audition. It's just gonna be you, no one else, you and the director. It's gonna be such a great audition. They want to just see you. I walked in, it was me and a lot of people that were not working yet, but were on their way and it was for the casting director. I was like, I got to get rid of this fucking manager, bro. He was just, he was tricksy.

He was trying to trick you. I always used to get so in my head when I was auditioning and I'd sit in the waiting room, back before I got scrubs and was not known yet, and I would sit in the waiting room and I'd look around at just the most handsome men in the world and I'd be like, I'm not gonna get this part, I don't think,

because I don't look like that. And then occasionally I would hear them through the walls doing their audition, and I'd be like, oh, maybe I have a shot, because they can't act. Right, they're very handsome, but cannot string a full sentence together with all of the required parts of the period at the end.

I'd be like, okay, well, maybe it's like, you know, one-to-one right now because he looks like that, but he's not funny at all. How does he get up the stairs? How does he navigate the elevator buttons? Yes, and time travel is very helpful. I will say this, and this is a great segue. Well, we can still talk about friends,

but to be able to do voiceover and also be able to be physical and natural with your movement and to hear and listen, but to be able to do voiceover and know specifically what the cadence and what the rhythm of the comedy is supposed to be helps a lot. And you two are both very, very, very good at voiceover. And I think that helps you both. I love it so much. I wonder, Aisha, how you found such a lane in that because you're very popular in that space.

And how did that kind of come about? Oh, magic. I mean, you know, so much of this business. I mean, sure, you have to train and you have to be good, but we all know brilliant people who don't work and we know ding-dongs who do, right? So like a lot of it is just, you know, trying to be ready and then hopefully like the window cracks open

and you burst through and hopefully you have pants on when you do it. I literally like, it was like this, it was just one thing, it was just Archer. That was the thing that opened everything else and it was an offer. So like, I can't claim any magic about, I went in, I wowed them, you know.

They knew me maybe from TalkSoup. I do remember that when I was doing TalkSoup, I was obsessed with the 2021. And for people who haven't seen it, this is this was a show that these guys did before Frisky didn't go and they took an old show from the seventies. It was called C-Lab 2020. And they just like, revoiced all the characters, the same animation. That sounds hilarious.

Oh, it was brilliant. And like they lived at this C-Lab under the sea, obviously, and they were all insane. So like that was what you would be if you lived under the sea for any extended amount of time. That's a great concept, by the way. Sorry to interrupt you, but that concept needs to be done more. It should be brought back. Find some old ass animation and then just re-voice it with funnier new shit. Absolutely. And like one of the guys had a girlfriend was made out of a mop and a bucket and he would have sex with her like in a closet and like everybody was always fighting and like eating off the ground.

I mean, it was genius. I would talk about it all the time on maybe that's how they knew about me because I couldn't stop talking about 2021. And so when I got the script and I read it, I was like, OK, this is way too smart and funny to ever actually become a series. It's never going to go. So I'm just get to go to Atlanta and kick it with the C-Lev 2021 guys and like steal some, some Frito chips out of the pantry at the voiceover facility and fly back to LA. And that was it. I was like, this is never gonna happen. And I remember when it went, Adam Reed called me

and like we had a full 10 minutes of like just laughter because we were like, this is wild. Like we, none of us expected this. And then it, you know, it went 14 seasons, but no credit to me. That show is in my opinion, the best written and the most beautifully animated adult, you know, cartoon ever.

I have to confess something that's going to make Joelle tear up, but I've never seen Archer. And I was already disappointed in you for a hundred other reasons. Daniel clicked back on to shake his head. And I know this. You know why I'm embarrassed to say it? I have had so many people who have the same taste as I.

We have a shared sense of humor who say, why are you not watching Archer? You would love Archer. You would love it. I would love it. I think I'm going to finally give it a try because... It will shock you. It was, I mean, like even I wasn't on it, I would say it will shock you with how extraordinary it is and like even being on it like sometimes I'll see something like oh we did that oh shit because the show is like I mean it's like super edge.

Oh it's is it on PC? It's high edge I mean I like it's Edge Lord. Edge Lord. Okay good I like Edge Lord. Okay, good. I like Edge Lord. You'll see. Donald loves to be edged. Alesha. Wait, wait, before we go. Who doesn't love an Edge Lord? Hold on, hold on. Do you remember E Network? Yeah, I remember E, yeah. That's where it started, right?

Yeah, that's where it started. That's where you jumped off, right? Yeah. So let's talk about that real quick. Okay. That's real, it's real dope. First of all, you're the first black person to host TalkSoup.

The first woman to host TalkSoup. Yes. I mean, you went all in, right? Like straight up, like, let's go. That's a lot of pressure. I'll tell you a story about how that went that I think will be illustrative. So I was a stand full-time

stand-up at the time and I saw that they were looking for a host and I had loved that show. I was a fan of the show and I wanted to go. I used to love that show too. Oh, it was such a great show and had such a great premise. I never watched it until you were on it. Oh, thank you. Oh, that's nice. Donald just went with the culture out here. He just went with the culture. That's true. At all places.

That's true. The only friends episode you watched was the ones you were on. I love it. So I wanted to audition for it. My manager at the time was like, they'll never hire a black girl. I was like, okay, thanks for your belief in me. And I got my agent system at me for it. And again, it was just a thing where I knew the show. So I knew how to tell a talk soup joke, but they wouldn't hire me because I wasn't famous

enough. And so, but I was looking hire me because I wasn't famous enough. And so, but I was looking at the people that were putting on there as like, y'all you need to work on your barometric standards. But I was a regular at the time on the show the precursor to real time politically incorrect with Bill Maher, which was on CBS. So I had done a bunch of like comedic television appearances.

I was like, I got them to give me one. And they were giving everybody a week. They gave me one episode. They gave me one episode. They gave me one episode to show what I could do. And I went on and I just have, and I did especially back then, but I still do kind of like a college dude sense of humor. And it just worked. It just clicked with the fans. And they wrote in, like, literally,

I got written onto that show. They were like, we got more fan mail for you, for you than anybody else who's done this show. So I got voted in because nobody over there believed in me. And I had so many executives and dudes be like, I don't know, man, like the fans all white boys. How was that going to work? I was like, look at me. I was like, look at boy made me in a computer. Look at me. So, uh. So, yeah. A white boy made me in a computer. That's hilarious.

Like, weird science too was about me. So, but it was, it was, it was, it was great. It was a great experience. Donald and I would be there for weird science too. So wait, I'm just remembering, it started, it all started with Greg Kinnear. That's what started his career.

It was Greg Kinnear and then it was John, John Henson. John Henson and then Hal Sparks and then me. And I saw John Henson in the Ralphs on La Brea and Third, you know that Ralphs? Yeah. Like in the produce section and he was, and this was after Hal Sparks

and he'd been off for a while. And he was like, I'm so excited for you. I really want you to get this job. I'm gonna make sure, I'm gonna call it. Why did they kick him off? What did happen to him? John, he left to do other stuff. Oh, okay. You know what I mean?

It was, yeah, like everybody just- He was really good. I really liked him too. He was great. He's such a great guy. Like, he just remains a sweetheart. Is he a standup still? What does he do these days? I, you know, I am not in the standup, like, community.

I'm not like, I like rejected him and just like wandered off to do other stuff. But I know he was hosting that just the emerge the image wipeout. I think he was hosting wipeout for a while. Okay, yeah. You know, the one where everybody gets popped in the face with the yeah, with the with the freaking fist out of nowhere. Yes, like the version of the Japanese show. But he so I'm sure he's still tours. He's he's just he was just like a very generous soul. And I remember like really encouraging to me. And I'm actually on great terms with all those guys. They're lovely people. You know, that was before the social media craze, wasn't it?

Yes, yes it was. So I wonder like- There was no Twitter. Yeah, I feel like that show would be tough now because the jokes were such that- It was Twitter. It was like a- It was like a snarky joke. Twitter joke, yeah.

It was finding all of the memes, all of that stuff, and putting it out there and talking about it. Exactly. And then writing the comments underneath it. But the host was the comments. That was exactly it. Aisha, are you still on Twitter? You know what?

So here's what happened. I left it, and then I left it a second time, but I didn't want to abandon my handle because I don't want somebody to squat it. So I still have it. And then it's hard to leave what is like a built up, you know, puddle of value, people who follow you, people who want to support you. So I didn't want to abandon them. So I post very occasionally. Yeah. Um, but I don't spend most of my time there. Yeah. I used to love it, man. I used to just get really used from there. I used to be really active on it too. And I have to say, I turned it on recently just to see what was happening.

And it's pretty- What was happening? Was it burning? Was it burning Thumster Higher? It's pretty intense over there, yeah. I would say that it's a city that- It's the stuff that you didn't see before, because there was so much other positive stuff happening, like all the positive stuff's gone,

so you pretty much are just seeing the dregs. Yeah, I would definitely say that the snark and sass and sarcasm and anger, if you took all those dials and just like a mixing board and pushed them all to the top. So it's not a very pleasurable spot for me. I used to really enjoy Twitter. Like I used to love it. We were talking about hate earlier

and how LeBron James' son is being, I think he's the most hated kid. I mean, granted the kid got paid a lot of money, but I think he's the most hated kid in sports right now. That's just envy though, isn't it? I feel like it's the same thing. And I feel like if I'm a bet on anyone, I think this is the kid to bet on, don't you? Right. Like, you know what I mean? Well, people are kind of giving him like the, you know, the kind of the nipple baby thing,

but he's an athlete. Like he still had to prove himself. And if he washes out, he's going to wash out on his own terms. He's still got to show and prove. And I feel like an athlete, the son of an athlete, even more than the son of somebody in another, you know, area of work, they still have to train and they still like, and they're being raised by someone who understands what it takes physically to get that level of excellence. Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean? And one of Joelle's things was like, well, Michael Jordan's kids didn't make it. I don't think Michael Jordan's kids wanted to play basketball. This kid wants to play basketball. I think some kids are like, I don't want that for myself. Yeah. Yeah.

He wants to be great. So I, me personally, I bet on this young man. And we'll see what happens in a few years and how well he does. We also don't know if Jordan was like, you know, pulling a King Richard or was like, do what you want, because it does seem like Le if Jordan was like, you know, pulling a King Richard or was like, do what you want. Cause it does seem like LeBron was like, one of you is going to play basketball. One of you is going to get there.

80 Meany Mighty Mo, what are you thinking out here? And like, you know, that kid self-selected to be the one. Even the youngest boy. I want to be a poet. Even the youngest boy, Bryce, this boy is killing. He's on team USA. You know, what did you expect?

I mean, there's so much of this whole NEPO baby criticism out there. I don't think that, I don't think it's warranted. Even when there's extreme talent. You guys have kids, do you guys both have kids? I do. I have Donald's kids. Oh, that's nice.

Share and share like. I don't and I won't. And I, but I wonder if I did, whether I would be pushing them towards what I do for, I don't know whether I would be pushing them towards what I do for, I don't know whether I'd be pushing them towards what I do for a living or whether I'd be encouraging them to do something else. Cause this is such a disappointing and tough business.

I might be like, no, no, no, you know, go be a lawyer. I would never tell my kids to get into entertainment. I mean, I don't know. What if they came to you and said, I want to do what you do, what would you say? I would never stop them because my parents certainly never said a single sentence that was negative about me pursuing my dreams.

But I do think it's a whole lot harder in 2024 than it was in 1997 when I graduated college. Oh yeah, fuck. So I don't know. I mean, I would, you know, I don't know that you can ever, you know, you know, poo-poo your child's dream, but I don't know. I think it's very, very, the odds are so much harder, I think, even than they were back in the day.

To me, it seems. The question is nepotism. I don't have a problem with young kids becoming actors because with young kids becoming actors because of watching what their parents did. And if they've developed their talent from their parents and watching their parents, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I don't think the fans think there's anything wrong with that either.

Well, there's some people who complain about it, but I always think, so you're telling me this beautiful woman and this beautiful man who are both talented came together and they made a child and the child happens to be good looking and has some natural ability. Why is that surprising to anyone? Right. I think of-

I think it's beyond that too, which is that this business is not really that merit driven, right? There's a certain amount of like merit involved, but it's not really a meritocracy. So on the business side, they're looking for a leg up, right? There's a certain amount of like merit involved, but it's not really a meritocracy. So on the business side, they're looking for a leg up, right? They're looking for a way to kind of hedge their bets. So if they're going to hire a kid and that name is familiar to audiences, they're going to hire that kid because they feel like there's going to be a built in curiosity or maybe even audience for that kid over this other talented person with no name. But it's always been that way

Since the beginning of the industry When has it been different when has yeah exactly always been Judy Garland's children all the way down Can't perform they're not gonna get very far at all Well, they might get further that they'll eventually hit a wall, but we got a couple of people rolling around out there who could probably hit the board. I'm just saying, I just feel like, you know, LeBron, okay, so let's say nepotism gets LeBron's son in, and obviously he's very talented,

but he's not gonna go very far if he ends up being horrible, right? Yeah, he'll wash out like everybody else, especially in athletics. I think in acting, you could go a lot further, but I think in pro. You can't hide, I mean, he I think in pro. You can't hide. I mean, he got the money, but you can't hide ability.

They'll send them to the G league for that whole contract if he doesn't pan out. Absolutely. What's the G league? What happens there? That's where they send kids who aren't yet developed enough to play in the NBA. That's kind of like the double A's.

Oh, I never even knew there was a G League. Where do they play? They're like the Compton Knickerbockers. No, LA actually has a team. So they play in Staples, they play, you know. Oh wow. Yeah, they, well, not all the time, but they, you know, they play in arenas.

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We watch your Wizette and Donald. And we're back! Oh, y'all can't believe what happened in that break. Yes, there was some crazy stuff. There was some crazy, well, that's where we do all the X-rated Patreon stuff. You're never gonna see it or hear it. You don't get behind this paywall.

Yeah, you gotta get behind the paywall to hear us talk X-rays. Yeah. No! I was on a podcast recently, and he said, okay, now for the Patreon five questions or something, and I was like, wait, so these people have to pay to hear these questions? And you know, which was what the implication was.

So I can't imagine what Donald and I would hide behind a Patreon wall. I mean, I think you could thought hard about it. Probably all the content Joelle makes us cut. All the stuff that we got to cut. Joelle is like the den mother who's like, okay, that was a good show. I'll be cutting this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this. We actually record for seven hours audience

to make an hour program for you. Oh my God. Oh my God. It's true. I was like, just like fake doctors after dark. Yeah. Aisha, tell us about video games. Do you still play?

Are you an avid player still? It's very painful. This is a painful point because I'm not, but not for lack of wanting to be. I just don't have the same bandwidth that I had when I was gaming, like when I was coming home after work and like playing until four in the morning. And so like, and I just did this show called

The Star Players where they were like, do you still game game and I was like, well, I still play games, but like, I don't have the time for like really good meaty console gaming. So I just I'm inside and your times games like I'll just do that. I don't think that community wants to hear about word. I got it. I really want to go back andirtle. Wirtle, I got it, Wirtle. Come on, come at me, bro. But I really want to go back and play some of my favorites. I really want to go back because there's a remaster of The Last of Us, and I loved that game. I played it when it came out.

And then obviously, the series was incredible. Dano loves Wirtle, and so do I, Dano. Dano, you can join the show while you be in there. Dano feels left out. Why you make Dano sit in the corner with his nose on the wall? He wants to participate. He's being so shy. No, we don't have to hide, Danel. We make him turn his mic off because his house is loud, but he can participate, Danel. Aisha, remember when you said white boys love you? Danel's been shy.

I can't help it. I'm a catnip. I'm catnip for white boys. He's so red. Look at him. Look at him. Daniel's blushing. Ever since he- Oh, my God, I can't help it. Daniel, just so the audience know, Daniel had his screen off and then because he wanted to participate, he changed his screen name to Daniel Loves Wirtle so he could sneak back to the conversation. I'm on it. I play all the games every day.

So I like Wirtle fine, but I like the other New York Times games. Connections is the best. S.R.A.N.S. Connections is the best. SRAM's Connections. Oh God, Danel's going down with you. I do B-Buddy every day with my B-Buddy. I love it. Aisha, it's actually good Danel's here because he's our resident video game expert.

What other games did you really love when you played? So Halo was the gateway, right? So I played a lot of Halo. I probably played like five or six hundred hours of Halo and the Halo family, especially like three in Reach. I was in Reach, I voiced a character in Reach. And then Gears of War is also one of my favorite games. And I also voiced, did like voice for the DLC for three,

for Gears of War three. And then The Last of Us, which I think is one of the most beautiful video games ever created. I'm like so emotional, so emotional in fact, so filmic that I had to stop playing for a while because I kept dying and I was like getting emotionally. I can't keep this kid alive. I can't take it anymore.

But when I watched the show and it was so beautifully done, I was like, man, I want to go back and play that game again. So that's like that's like first on my list when I get like, you know, a couple of weeks of downtime. And then I love actually the Walking Dead, remember the Walking Dead, like the tablet version of the game. Did anybody play that? Yes. I was so good. So good.

So good. So good. Every time. Like, I can't. Everyone's going to die. It's just no way. And you remember people like when you when you when you finish that game, you're going to cry. It's like, well, I don't cry about shit. Man, I'm a rock, I'm a stone. I'm dead inside. Ah, ah, ah, ah!

I couldn't believe it. I was like, why are they doing this to me? My buddy was like, oh, did you finish that game? I was like, shut up. Got it. Now I understand what these shows are about. Got it. It's not about the zombies and the killing.

It's your connection to the love. The connection? Oh my gosh. I'm fucking sitting here like, I ain't watching. What the fuck is Walking Dead? It's a bunch of zombies. No, it's because you love this character so much. Those shows are not about the zombies.

They're about survival of relationship of characters. And all those shows, all the zombie shows, ask the question, are we essentially good or are we essentially bad? That is the question behind every zombie show. If all the rules of ask the question, are we essentially good or are we essentially bad? That is the question behind every zombie show. If all the rules of society fall away, would we default to an essentially good nature? Are humans good or are we bad? What do you think?

What's your answer? You know, I think about this a lot because if you wanna look around at where we are right now on the planet, I do think about it a lot. I actually think that human beings are essentially good and I'll tell you why. As much horrible things as are happening

and have happened in the history of the planet and as much disappointing things as are happening now. You walk outside, people are walking down the street, people are picking up the shit behind their dogs, people are putting on their seat belts, people are queuing at the supermarket, people are paying their bills, people are taking care of their children. For the most part, human beings default

to a collective good mode. Now there are outliers and there are moments where people don't, but I think about that a lot. We're all driving our cars in the same direction. We're all stopping at the stop sign. I mean, we all say please and thank you. That is almost all of us here. And if we were essentially bad,

the world would not be working at all. We would all still be in caves and like banging rocks together and like murdering our neighbor almost all of us here. And if we were essentially bad, the world would not be working at all. We would all still be in caves and like banging rocks together and like murdering our neighbor to take their like turnips. So, and I think that honestly, to crib from Martin Luther King, the long arc of social justice does trend towards the good. We have made a lot of progress, which is why the forces of evil are working so hard to push us back. Because they see that they are, and this is speaking in a biblical term, I'm just like actual evil people, see that there's been all this progress from people of color, all this progress for women, all this progress for the downtrodden and the

unrepresented. And they don't like that. They liked it when they were on top. And that's why they're fighting so hard to hold on to their position of power power because they know it's a losing battle and it's almost over. Do you want to take over the Democratic presidency and run for office? You totally run. You're very good. And we're in a bit of dire straits currently. We are in dire straits. Did you see the, so there was a poll. Kamala is essentially neck and neck, which means that, you know, she's got a path, but they said that the Democrat that pulls 10 points ahead of Trump is Michelle Obama. So everybody just has to start a writer-writing and letter-writing campaign.

She has postcards to Michelle. Every time that comes up, everyone's like, you have no idea how much that woman takes politics. For America, Michelle, for America. There's no way in hell. She knows what it entails, right? She knows exactly what's possible. Don't you feel like Barack?

She watched her husband go from a handsome young man to a handsome old young man in eight years, dude. She's like, get the fuck out of here. Don't you think Barack would be like, should we? I guarantee you that they have talked about it. I mean, I can't obviously I don't know what what they've said, but when you see something like that and she's definitively pulling 10 points ahead of Trump, like without even being in the race, it is very seductive and she does know

what the job entails and we'd get you precedents for one obviously. But I also think about like, you know what it entails and you only have to do it for four years. You can just do it for the four years to get us out of this specific kind of predicament that we're in. Like how much would you sacrifice to save the world? Right?

Because that's what it really feels like. It doesn't just feel like America. It feels like Western democracy and our allies and freedom is what we're fighting for right now. And I don't know. I haven't I think she's a good person. I hope that she at least contemplating it seriously. But I used to talk with my friends a lot about the presidency and about how everybody goes in being like, I'm going to solve hunger, I'm going in being like, I'm going to solve hunger.

I'm going to end war. I'm going to save the babies. I'm going to like, you know, stop global, you know, like change climate change. And then think about the White House as like somebody's actual house and you buy the house and you don't know what's in there, but it looks real nice from the outside. You'll got big grounds at a Rose Garden. And then you go into the house and it's yours now don't belong to the last two belongs to you and you open the door to the basement and it's piled all the way up to the

sill with bodies. Right. And you just go, oh shit, there's no way I can clean this mess up. And if I even tell people these bodies are in here, they're going to blame them all on me. So I'm gonna slam this door. I always think about young Barack going into the White House and like a week later, he was gray. It was like, it was like they must've told him some shit. Everything, they got a book. Everything you think you know, you just do not know. He looked like he aged 10 years in a week. Yo, black don't crack unless you're the president

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of these video game, what were they like, events, conferences? Oh, like E3? Yeah. Did you enjoy doing that? Yeah, it was super fun. I mean, I was one of the only women to have done it before or since and they were like press conferences. So E3 was this big gaming convention that was in LA and you know what it was? You know, it was Comic-Con for video games. You guys have both, you've been to Comic-Con. So it was Comic-Con for video games. And I love Comic-Con. So I loved E3 and you get to play all the new games and there'd be all kinds

of like big reveals and like the early version of all the VR that's out now. You could play all those games. And then they would just do this big kind of, you know, announcements that they would show gameplay. And I don't know, I love I mean, I was a really nerdy kid. I love the nerd community. Like I was in we were all nerds before that was a cool thing to be, you know, said, you know, we said, you can't call yourself a nerd if you didn't spend a significant amount of your childhood playing alone. No, but he's right, man. But he's so right. I was mad behind the schoolhouse with my boombox

and my feelings, you know what I mean? But he's right. But I mean, at least it's cool to be a nerd now. Look at Comic-Con. Look how big it is. I was a nerd back. Look, I remember being in junior high school. And it's a sign of immaturity, too, I guess,

because if my kid was doing it now, I'd be like, dude, you're in school. I remember being in junior high school with a fucking transformer under my desk freaking trying to transform it, thinking this is the this is this is the life. This is what is going to help me in my in my career. This is good is gonna help me in my career. This is gonna, and then putting it on the table and looking at my buddies when it was done like, look what I did. And then shaking their heads like,

what the fuck is wrong with you? I had a Donkey Kong, I had Donkey Kong, like LCD handheld game that I begged my dad for for and I would just play that all day long Play that shit in class play that shit on the bus wake up and be like at the bus turn around what a missus I loved it. I loved it. I mean that's that's I mean, I feel like that's what a nerd is I feel like a lot of people I'm not gonna be controversial here I feel like a lot of people, I'm not gonna be controversial here. I feel like just cuz you- Joelle get ready to cut this out of the show.

I'm prepared. She's ready. She's different. She's got her finger on the button. I feel like just cuz you in the cosplay don't necessarily mean you a nerd. Are you kidding me? I was gonna say just cuz you in the cosplay don't mean you in the cause. No, no, no, no.

Wait, why is it controversial what you're saying? Just cuz you're in the cosplay what? He's just saying like some people are posing. Some people no, no, no. Wait, why is it controversial what you're saying? Just because you're into cosplay, what? He's just saying like some people are posing. Some people are posing as nerds. Got it. But what's great about that community or what can be great about it, and it can be just as gatekeeping as any other community,

is that like, you know, for a lot of the people that come there, they don't, this is their connection with the world and sometimes it's their only connection. And when we would do Comic-Con for Archer, we would do a signing every year. And, you know, people have been waiting in line and they spent all this money

and they traveled across the country. And I would say, how is your day? How's your con? And they would go, this is the greatest day of my life. And to be a part of that, to have some little tiny aspect of like what I do and what my crew does be a part of like making someone stay that I'm sure you guys have had that experience with someone's like, you know, I love your

show. I want this is so insane. But like, I watched a show with my dad when he was dying in the hospital, like that was our way to laugh and to get some catharsis. Like, you know, we're not curing cancer. Well, you know what I mean? And I don't think of it as being as lofty as anything, you know, like saving lives, but it is a way that people connect and that they come together and we're so isolated, increasingly isolated as human beings. And so to do a show like Archer, to have a thing like Comic-Con or show like Scrubs

where people really connect to it and it makes them feel connected to the larger world, I think it's special. Absolutely. I love dorks. I think you- Yeah, man. I was gonna ask if I could ask. I know, Joelle's been holding a line. Go ahead dorks. I think you... Yeah, man. I was gonna ask if I could ask.

I know, Joelle's been holding a lot in. Go ahead, Joelle. You can go as far as you will. Go, go. I feel like you and Joelle would be best friends, but go ahead. We already are. I feel it. I feel it. If I say Black Girl Nerds or BGN, do you know what that is? Do you remember them on Twitter, maybe?

Yeah, but I think also, like, they have like a website, because I feel like they've interviewed me a bunch. My first job in California was... worked at Black Girl Married. It was my first. I have a terrible first time. I have the memory of a drop toddler, but that's so great. It's good to see you again. It was we were a large team.

I think we maybe had to go to Charlotte three or four times, but it was my first gig when I got to LA. I saw a post on Twitter that was just like, hey, have you any kind of knowledge about movies? And are you prepared to write about them? I had just come out of film school. I was like, I could write an essay, no problem. So they hired me. And then because I was in LA, I was getting all these opportunities to go spaces and interview and talk to people. But when I was trying to explain to my parents what I was doing, I was so glad you were out there in the world. what I was doing, I was so glad you were out there in the world, because I could point to you,

I'd be like, okay, so this is Aisha Tyler, she hosts E3, like she's a black woman in the nerd space and she's making like money and getting gigs and I will be able to do that eventually too. And it was so wonderful just to have like, see somebody who's out there working. And then on top of that, to see how you've given back to your, like the different fandoms,

that like, I really like watching your career because you mentioned you were like a call-in select, but I feel like everywhere you go, your fans are just like, okay, Ayesha's here, we're holding down the fort. Like, what do we need to do to make sure he stays on the show or that the show stays on the air? Like, we love him.

So you've just been this icon. You do have quite a fan base, Ayesha, it seems to me. One thing, first of all, thank you, both of you, and thank you, Joelle. And one thing I will say that I think you guys can probably really connect with is, especially if you're not a part of predominant community, you're not allowed to be unusual.

You're not allowed to be neurodiverse. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, you know, there's so, people really wanna tell you, this is how Black people act. This is what they like This is the food that they eat This these are the shows that they watch and if you're anywhere outside of that like tiny circle at the center of a Venn diagram You feel completely excluded

so like a lot of These communities and these conversations for me have been a way to validate people who feel like they don't fit like when I was a kid You know people were like black people don't skateboard black people don't listen to heavy metal black people don't fit. Like when I was a kid, people were like, black people don't skateboard, black people don't listen to heavy metal, black people don't like punk rock. And I was like, well, watch me skate and listen to punk rock and if I can go to a Metallica concert and you can suck my dick.

Because I hate it being told what I liked, what I was allowed to do, who I was allowed to be. And I feel like so much of like the blurred, like the whole blurred community and that ethos is like, be who you are and embrace, don't let people gatekeep you. And I think that applies to anyone anywhere, like just to be able to live your life and be self-actualized in your own way. You know what I mean? Like for example, Donald and all of his tiny figurines behind him. Look at my 40 year old

question. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, for real, like, well, we, we, we started the word blurred bro on scrubs. That's, that came from us favorite, Blurred. Well, we started the word Blurred, bro, on Scrubs. That came from us, bro, straight up. And then- I don't know. I know that's true, but I'm gonna give it to you right now. I'll put it 100 it is, because Zack would always be like, he would, when we would do scenes, it would be like, Blakshin and stuff like that.

And Blurred was one of the things, he's a Blurred. And then we create, listen, people might've been saying it before that, but I promise you. Just give it to him, Aisha. Just give it to him. I gave it to him. I mean, people probably were saying it before that, cause I'm older than you, but I'm a give it to you anyway, because I want you to win. Aisha, how old are you?

She can't, you don't ask a late. I'm 53. Oh my God. I would never have guessed. Audience, I am not lost. I was really, I was really about to, I was really, I bet you get carded. I bet you get carded. I was trying to trump your ass just now

and I fucking could not. No, listen, you can Google it. You can Google it so it's not like it's a secret. Wow. Are you married? No, just, no. And are you single and dating? I was married.

Oh, okay. No, I'm just hoarding my money. Okay. Are you, are you over it? Are you just over the dating scene? I, I have no interest in that. I would, I literally could not even imagine going on a dating app. Like I have friends that are on those apps right now. And I'm like, if you're on the app, okay, I'm just gonna, I know I'm going to be controversial

to also get ready. If you were on an app to okay, I'm just gonna I now I'm gonna be controversial to also get ready. If you were on an app to catch some dick, God bless you go at it. That's what those apps are for. Catch as much D as you possibly can. Both hands, mouth open, catch that D. If you're trying to get in a relationship, that is not the place. It's just not the place. Nobody on there is serious about anything but getting laid. And I think the women as well. Wait,

anything but getting laid. And I think the women as well. Wait, they just want to catch some dick. Yeah. Okay. Catching dick. We're gonna need that for the soundboard. No, no, no, no, no, absolutely not. Because just nobody on there is serious. And they're and they're so fit, like, like finicky and fickle and horrible and exploitative. You can't trust anybody. Like, remember when Ben Affleck was on remember when Ben Affleck was on Raya, and fickle and horrible and exploitative. You can't trust anybody. Like remember when Ben Affleck was on, remember when Ben Affleck was on Raya and then he matched with that girl

and she didn't think he was real. So she swiped him out and then he went on and he told her, hey, it's really me. And she just put his shit on the internet. That's not, none of those things, Raya is supposed to be like a private, like safe space. And she blew him up. So there's no, no place is safe. No, absolutely not. So are you, you don't, you don't, if someone sets you up, you wouldn't

go on a date. You got to set me up with like Jeremy Renner or something like that. Otherwise, I'm not interested. She wants A-list, Donald. That's it. Don't be bringing me your cousin. She wants an Avenger. She wants an Avenger. Well, I get it. She wants an Avenger. I will also take anybody from the DC Universe. Okay. She's also open to the DC. Just Marvel or DC, that's fine. She's not prejudiced against the DC Universe stuff.

No, Marvel or actually DC Girl. I'm a DC Girl. I'm not a Marvel Girl. Here's the question. What's sexier, DC or Marvel? What's sexier? This is unfair. This is really an unfair question. It sure is, isn't it? Listen, I grew up on DC Comics. I collected DC Comics.

I am a DC girl. And I honestly am also a Snyder stan. So we can get into that if you want to. Oh, wow. I'm not gonna get into it because I don't want the hate mail, but okay. I have a whole Reddit where I argued with someone for like eight pages over Batman versus Superman Superman and why was such a great film.

So I will go. You're a great guest. But here's what I will say. Marvel is funnier. DC is sexier. But the problem is like you want to bone DC, but you probably want to marry Marvel. Do you know what I mean? Because like Marvel is going to make you laugh and you just can't bone all day long. Somebody has to take out the trash. you know what I mean? Cause like, Marvel's gonna make you laugh and you just can't bone all day long. Somebody has to take out the trash. You know what I mean? So probably it's like, if it was fuck, marry, kill.

It's like fuck DC, marry, Avengers, kill. If you were gonna catch D, you'd want it from DC, is what you're saying. Yes. Oh, well done, Zach. Thank you. Let's go out here and catch this DC. Yeah. You're gonna go catch some D, comma, C. What comic book are we?

Whose comic books are we killing? But you can't, I mean, anybody who can get a comic book out, period. Nobody. What'd you say, Joelle? Who are we killing? I don't have to kill anybody. She doesn't want to say it. Joelle's going to have to cut herself.

We'll talk about it on the break. Joelle was about to be like, we're going to cut that part where I said. Yeah, it's rare that Joelle has to cut something she said. That's what's great about this. Yes, I guess you tested my nerd food just now and I feel like I came. Lastly, we should promote your show, right?

Cause you have a show, Criminal Minds. I have a show and I'm also promoting my new cocktail line. Wait, tell us about it. Hold on. Oh, yeah. So I'll talk about the cocktail line first. So I'm a big cocktail fan. I love cocktails and I launched just two months ago. It's only two months old.

She's a baby, a brand new line of organic ready to drink cocktails. They're super premium. So the first one is a margarita. It's clarified and only has three ingredients, 100% blue ever agave, Blanco tequila, organic, organic triple sec on organic lime. It is the greatest ready to drink margarita ever. It's called Lassafie, like philosophy.

And Lassafie, L-O-S-O-P-H-E. Just open the bottle, pour it in a glass, put it in your face. And do you do a Moscow mule? Not yet. We're just doing a margarita. The margarita is the number one cocktail in the world. It is the world's first cocktail in the United States.

Where can you find? Where can you find? LOSOPHE.com, L-O-S-O-P-H-E.com or come to my socials at Aisha Tyler. You can get it shipped to your house. So no matter where you are in the United States, we will mail you. LOSOPHE. All right. We're going to try that. How long have you been working on that? How long? Because I know it's a long game. It was a long game. It took us about two or three

years to come up with this formula. If you go to my Instagram, you will see that I tasted every single ready to drink margarita on the market, which was a day that should live in infamy. And then we hired three different citrus PhDs to help us develop this product. Yeah, Donald and I were curious back in the day about making something and someone told us like, unless you're just going to slap your label on something, it is a long slog. And it's expensive. Yeah, but I cared about it. I mean, this is something I love. So, and I felt like it was

something that the market needed. Again, I'm not curing cancer here. But if you've ever had a ready to drink margarita, they look like anti freeze and they taste about the same. And most of them don't even have tequila in them at all. They have like malt liquor or a neutral grain spirit. And then they add a little bit of tequila flavoring, sprinkle it in. And where do you fall on the price point? Are you more of a high end? We are premium, we are premium product. The bottle is $40, but there are 12 cocktails in there. Oh, it's a bottle. You don't buy like one can. It's a big ass bottle like this. Oh, wow.

Because it's so delicious, you will drink a bottle in a setting. I was about to say, I was better on ice, y''all don't freaking get drunk and yeah, don't drink it. It's not like a six percent It's not like a beer. It's a real margarita some ice Responsibly people listen to your show or adults. I hope yes We occasionally even though the show is mostly are this has been a pretty tame episode. Oh good. I thought I was being naughty No, no, we've had we've had the Donald has made us talk about dirty shit

All on you Donald no because we listen they make a mistake having sex therapists. Oh, that's the best We had a sex therapist on penis doctor. I should you should come back for the sex therapist And I you probably have good questions for her. She's amazing. She was a penis doctor? No, she's a sex therapist. And she wrote these guides, everything you need to know about the vagina, penis and anus.

Her and her husband. Oh, that's a really specific title. Well, no, there were separate guides. There was penis, there was vagina, there was anus. I mean, like you can't take the book up and be like, what is this about? I don't quite get it. I'm not. What's the subtext of this title?

What will I learn? By the way, I bet we sold a lot of those guides for that woman because people came up to me on the street like I bought anus. I bought anus. That is against the law. You cannot buy anus. If someone offers you anus on the street, go the other way. Only product or anus transactions online or in an app, please for your protection. Yes.

All right. Jewel is cutting this whole thing. No, Jewel doesn't mind saying sorry. This makes the show. It's a controversial shit. Jewel allows us to talk about sex. She just doesn't allow us to talk about controversial topics. I love the most controversial topic

is whether I was going to fuck the DC Universe or not. Yeah, no, we'll keep that. That was good stuff. We don't want to anger Reddit. No, they're going to love that. Aisha, tell us about Criminal Minds because this show's been going on a long time, but this is like a spin-off or what? No, no, it's a continuation essentially.

So we were for 15 seasons on CBS and then- How many seasons did you do? I did five. So I joined in season 11 and did 11 through 15. And then the show ended there. And then I think almost immediately, they were like, wait a minute. And so like, I think the show went off the air

like in April of 2020. And then in September of 2020, we were talking about bringing it back. Wow. So it moved to Paramount Plus. And go ahead. You have a question. Why don't you raise your hand? It's your show. I don't want to interrupt you. I don't want to interrupt.

I interrupt everybody so much. I'm you know, I don't want to do that anyway. He's been listening to the comments. Well, are there comments? You don't read the comments. What was your question? Did it get canceled because of COVID? Because it wasn't a bad show.

You know what I mean? It was still doing well. I know television ratings aren't what they used to be. Right. I mean, if I had to guess, and I don't know what 15 was, if I had to guess, you know, it was 15 years of a show, all those prime time procedurals, you know, were on the part of the global downward trend of all prime time television. And I think they were like, the show's been on for 15 years, let's see if we can try something new. And then I think they were

like, wait a minute, that's a massive global hit. That was, that probably wasn't the best move. I mean, during COVID, it was the most streamed show like, you know, before this phenomenon, we were the most streamed show like globally, for like all 2020. So I just think they saw those numbers specifically, and we're like, Oh, my God, maybe we shouldn't have let that show go. It was you know, I mean, we weren't we weren't looking at all the metrics when we decided to let it go.

Shoot it in LA. We shoot in LA. Yeah. And we're just about to start shooting season three of Criminal Minds Evolution, which is season 18 of the show. And honestly, this last season, season 17 was the best season of that show, period. Well, if you need two corpses, Donald and I would love to come. You're all too sexy to be corpses. No, I would love to be a corpse. No, I'm not sexy enough to be a corpse.

I got to take my shirt off. Listen. I got to take my shirt off on television. I don't want to do that. Well, we can see that you drowned. You were drowning. You were bloated by the water. Oh, the cruelty.

The cruelty inside this podcast. I like that. I like that. The savagery. I like that. I'm volunteering. Please tell your showrunner that Donald and I would love to be corpses on the cover of Mars.

If you guys could be like twin corpses or best friends. No, we just want to be, you find us in the dirt. Or lovers. No, yeah, you find us in the dirt holding hands. In a class. That's exactly like the one in Elton Shepard's. I love it. Face down in the dirt. No, no, no. Oh, no. I thought face down in the dirt holding hands is better.

Oh, it's beautiful. Face down in the dirt holding hands is better. But it's beautiful. Face down in the dirt holding hands, sure. Or I would think just spooning, like we knew the apocalypse was coming, so we drank arsenic. One hand on the other's face tenderly. All right. Aisha, we've kept you long enough.

Thank you. You're so funny and you're a great guest. Oh my God, guys. This was so lovely. I love seeing your little faces. I feel like the COVID made everything the before times. like you have friends that used to see all the time You should see them out or at comic con or whatever and I feel like I haven't seen i've seen Donald within the last maybe five years, but I don't feel like the last time I saw you

I have a picture. I have a picture of us from the I posted a picture on instagram the last time I saw you of us from the I posted a picture on Instagram the last time I saw you. Wow. It's actually saved under cool people. I know some shit, you know, in the circles, the thing like that. That's so lame that you did that. You're a fucking, you're a fucking dick, Zach. You're a dick, dude. You're you're Zach. You should go out and catch some dick, dude.

You fucking asshole. You fucking asshole. You know, I usually we have a sound machine You should go out and catch some dick Aisha we have a sound machine and this is one of the things on the Eat these balls Forever who tank forever It had a lot of flair. Here's another one. Wu-Tang forever. Wu-Tang forever. Have you guys considered mixing everything into some kind of hip hop super cut? We need DJ Daniel to do that.

Daniel, why don't you make a big bop? It'd be amazing if you did that, what she just said, and used all our sounds, and then it became the bop of the summer. It was bigger than, they not like us. That's impossible. It's impossible. It's never going to be. They not like us. It's impossible. Nothing is ever gonna be bigger than they like us.

I bet you you could beat the Margarita song. One Margarita, I'ma catch a D. I got two Margaritas, I'ma catch a D. That's what I'm saying. You could probably beat that song. You know, I wanted to say there was a video I saw, I don't know if it's for the Olympics or something, but they were playing they not like us.

And Steph Curry says to LeBron, oh, I'm so sick of this song. And LeBron goes, what? I love it. That was just like a call on the hot mic. And LeBron says something like, there are other songs. So I always got to play this song. That song is when we're old, when we are old, that is going to be played in like fine dining restaurants. Like right now, if you go to to a white tablecloth restaurant, all they play is Biggie. I'm like, is this Biggie in Tupac? In this Michelin star? Right.

So we'll be hearing they don't like us for the rest of our lives. It'll be like an instrumental of they don't like us on the piano. Listen, I knew it was a problem when they start showing these little kids at their little dance parties that they have. I saw that video. All the little girls were just girls. All the little girls and then now I am probably a minor. Oh my God. Minor.

You go crazy. Now I know we have to go. Oh my gosh. I know we have to go, but I just have to say this. I was taking my mom to like an art exhibit and with a buddy of mine. And so in the car, my buddy just played the whole beef for my mom. So my mom, she's almost 80. She likes jazz.

She's very hip. You know, mom got a tattoo sleeve. So mom was cool, but like, she's not a hip hop fan. And he played the whole beef, like in succession. And my mom goes, well, Kendrick Lamar obviously wanted it. Clearly. So there you have it, Kendrick. Mama says he wanted the beef.

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Joelle, I think that may be one of your favorite guests. Aisha Tyler is definitely an icon. She had my job before I had my job, and then she just paved a way for a lot of us to be able to do this. I was about to say, she's the original, man. That's the blueprint. That's the blueprint. Absolutely.

Sincerely, bro, when nobody else was doing it, it was her first. She was the first one to do- And she did a lot of slack for it. She had to deal with a lot of awful things. Yeah, I feel like I remember her getting a lot of Twitter beefs because people didn't like a black woman covering video games. Right, Joelle? Wasn't that a thing?

That's exactly it. Yeah, they were like- And they were calling her a poser, and she was like, what? I've been playing video games since I was a little kid. Like, I remember that. She's the OG, like for real. I don't think there's anybody, I can't name anybody before her,

but maybe because they didn't get as famous as she did. I was like, not with the spotlight like she had. Yeah. That was funny. The second she realized we were like an R rated podcast, she started loosening up. I kind of want to do another interview with her knowing that she can say whatever the fuck she wants to say. Because all of a sudden she's talking about catching Dee.

And I was like, okay, let's go. Well, she's our cup of tea. You know what I mean? She said something really very, she said something interesting, you know what I mean? Because this is how a lot of us learned how to act when we didn't take classes and we weren't, you know what I mean? Television and studying, you know what I mean, television and studying. You know what I mean? Her craft was, I'm gonna go be funny on stage,

and then after being funny on stage, I'm gonna go and watch what I think is... I'm gonna watch something that's gonna put me to sleep that entertains me. And in doing so, she was able to, you know, I'm not gonna say mimic, but she was able to say, you know, I could tell one of those jokes. I know how to of those jokes.

I know how to tell those jokes. And that's something that a lot of actors study. Look, I posted this shit on Instagram. I know it sounds really douchey for me to say that shit, but Brendan Fraser talks about, you know, he gives advice to actors and what it takes to be an actor. And right now it's really, really, really, really, really, really hard to be an actor. And right now it's really, really, really, really, really, really hard to be an actor.

You know what I mean? And I just think if you just listen to what he says, it's beautiful and it's also very true. All right, well, what do you got going on this weekend? You going to a basketball tournament in Anaheim? I am. Okay. Well, have fun. Go teams.

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