Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - Isabelle Fuhrman Will Try to Fix You

Episode Date: October 22, 2024

Isabelle Fuhrman got her big break when she was cast as the titular character in the horror film The Orphan. Not to be undone, she quickly followed that up by appearing in The Hunger Games. Going completely against casting, she was younger and smaller than they were originally looking for, and she blew everyone away with her performance. And then, during the pandemic, she became a doula! Her infectious positivity and endless grind have helped her sustain a decades-long career. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What you trying to get into a day or two? What you trying to do? I'm trying to get into our world famous podcast, Zach Graf, known as Faith Doctors, real friends. I miss you. I miss you too. I miss you so much it hurts sometimes. I miss you so much it hurts a lot. How about that? I was all over the universe and I thought so many times.

You weren't over the universe. You were all over the planet. The universe is multi. Right. I was all over the universe and I thought so many times. You weren't over the universe, you were all over the planet. The universe is multi. Right, I was on Earth. I was on Earth. And it was awesome, I wish you were there. Thought of you a lot. So can I ask you a question?

Ask me anything, Tom. Where'd you go? I went to Stockholm because Josh Raden is very dialed in Stockholm. He loves Stockholm, he's got a lot of friends there. So I have this new thing in my brain that I've been ruminating on. I really wanna go to cities

where someone I know is dialed in. I don't wanna go with my guidebook and sit on the tour bus. I wanna go where someone knows the city. And I've been to Stockholm before, I love it, but Josh just really knows it well. He knows all the good restaurants. He's got tons of friends there. So I went there for a week.

And then Amanda Klutz's sister, everybody should follow her, Anna Klutz on Instagram. She's, you know, we went through all the Nick stuff together and I know her and she's the, she's a sweetheart of a human being. She, her dream, her whole life dream was to move to Paris and like, and like, literally be Emily in Paris and start a new life.

She went through a divorce and then she wrote a book about it. And she began this life living in Paris. And she's sort of an influencer, basically like telling you everything you should ever know and do in Paris. And she fell in love with this Parisian guy and they're the cutest couple in the world.

Anyway, so Anna invited Josh and I to come over and she showed us Paris like I've never seen Paris. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Was it like how we got showed Amsterdam? He even fell. I don't remember. I don't remember much of that.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha ha.

What a, I mean. That's funny. That's funny. But yeah, yeah, yeah. We ran into, when we were in Amsterdam, we ran into friends that knew it. And yeah, it's just like every, every like restaurants are out to beat and pass.

Things you should see, things to avoid, things to know. Just like where to walk around. And we met their friends and it was amazing, man. We just like, we ate the best food. We drank way too much wine. I'm going on a detox now. I told you about my light up board that I use when I want to not drink.

I cleared the whole thing out. It's got one little number. It's that one again. Yeah, the number September 11th is lit up and that's it. That's all I got. But I'm starting. I need to cleanse my soul. Right on.

That's what's up. It was fun. I missed you though. Dude, I missed you too. Case kept asking when is Zach coming back? I was like, I don't know, but I know he's having fun. I got some meetings on the books for us. Oh, really? You're doing some hustling for a fake doctors real friends productions?

I'm trying my best, man. I think, you know, I'll say it on the air and then you can choose whether to cut it out or not. But, you know, I'm trying to get us and stupid buddy together so we can make a little animated series about these fake doctors real friends. I'm down. I would love an animated series. Okay. I would love an animated series. This is the thing we got to do.

Get iHeart on board. Okay. And then we got to get, we'll probably have to get a couple of outside producers because animation is expensive. Yeah, well, I'm down to talk about it. You know, I made you those figures. I haven't seen any animation on your page using said figures.

Well, you need to call up Julian Clark and ask him what we get in the mouths. You think I didn't DM that mofo? I said, where are my mouths? For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about, I made these animation puppets, I had them custom made for Donald's birthday, and the guy said, wow, I'm so backward, I'll them custom made for Donald's birthday. And the guy said,

wow, I'm so backward. I'll rush them through because it's Donald. But the mouths that change, they make all the vowels for the puppets. He said, I'm going to send them later because I can rush everything but those. I go, okay. Now I'm starting to look at the counter. I'm like, where the fuck are my mouths? Yeah. He's a good dude though, man. This dude is an awesome guy. I know, but I never thought I'd DM somebody, where the fuck are my mouths? His name's Julian Clark. If you have the opportunity, you can follow his artwork on Instagram. He does actually do, he's working with Aardman right now. He worked with me on a lot of the stuff that I'm trying to put out. His work's amazing, but bro, it's time for my mouths to arrive.

that I'm trying to put out. His work's amazing, but bro, it's time for my mouths to arrive. Now, but I'm just saying you don't need to have these puppets talking. I don't understand why you're not making Zach and Donald just like butt-fucking shit. Oh my. Is that what you want us to do? Well, sorry, we don't have to butt-fuck, but we could... We could...

We could roll around. I can do that if that's what you want us to do. I think the fans would be laugh if there was just a little a couple thrusts naked or no just put some clothes on just put us on like one of your Star Wars dummies put our heads on them. Oh I would I was that's my plan is to do that. You and me are going on a fucking Star Wars adventure together. I'm gonna keep it honest with you. If I'm a listener right now, I'm like, why has the Zach Puppet not eagled the Donald Puppet? What the fuck is going on in that garage?

You know, I didn't even think about eagling. Yeah, eagling! And we'll put the mouths in later when we get them. Arch, you're convincing me to start playing with these heads. I'm trying to get you going? Somebody just if somebody just stepped in in the middle of this conversation Will tank forever trying to get you riled up. I'm riled up. I am I'm officially riled Joel, how are you producer priest priestess? Thank you. I'm so good. It's almost my birthday I've been planning a very special event. Wait, today's your birthday?

No, it's almost. Almost my birthday. It's almost. Almost my birthday. And so, you know, when you're older, you have to plan your own celebration. And if your friends are busy, you have to plan like a month in advance. And so I like booked a restaurant with like up and coming chef and like a whole room out. I have like 10 of my girlfriends. I've got like seat place things and I'm getting them all flowers.

It's gonna be very cute. Is there a theme, Joelle? The theme is look good as hell because I'm taking a lot of pictures. So everybody has to come looking amazing. Come looking fly. Yes, and then I just wanna celebrate, you know, all the ladies in my life

have been doing amazing things and accelerating their growth and starting businesses. So I'm giving everyone their flowers. It's gonna be cute. Okay, I got it. That's nice, you're gonna celebrate your friends on your birthday, on your day of celebration. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.

We'll celebrate your friends. Community is everything. That's very generous. Are you a generous person, Joelle? Yeah, I can see that. I try to be. Yeah, Joelle seems like it. Right on. You seem like a really good friend, Joelle. You're always blowing up your friends. Mm-hmm.

Donald, I'm a good friend to you. I'm always blowing you up. You are. You are probably one of, you are really good friend, Joel. You're always blowing up your friends. Donald, I'm a good friend to you. I'm always blowing you up. You are probably one of, you are my best friend, but you are a great friend to me, actually. Yeah, I think I am. Sometimes even when I don't deserve to be, That's true. To have a friend like you,

That's true. You do your thing sometimes. Good thing we have Casey as our live-in moderator to our couples therapist. Everybody needs a moderator. I wonder if there's other listeners out there whose wife is the couples therapist between two men. Sure there is.

There's gotta be. I sent her a good- I would say names, but I don't wanna go down that path. I texted her last night my BFF because I got man do I got a show for her and Y'all listen chimp crazy. You need to watch this show called Chimp Crazy It's this is the craziest shit I've ever seen in my life You have to watch it Donald Chimp crazy do this to my house. Is it chimp like chimpanzee? It's it's tiger. It's the guy who made Tiger King who somehow found a crazier story than Tiger King

I don't know how a Documentarian who's to who was able to make the masterpiece that is tiger There is no way was able to for the second time find another crazy animal endangered animal person and make a crazier documentary. It doesn't end with murder. I know, but I cannot. I'm not done yet. You also know spoilers, but listen, everybody, if you like crazy docs that make you wish there were 30 episodes when there's only five, you need to watch Chimp Crazy. All right, let me ask you a question.

I came home all jet lagged last night. I was like, I gotta stay up. I'm like, I'm like, I gotta stay up and give myself a pep talk. Well, I didn't need much help once Chimp Crazy came on. Ah! Ah! Ah!

Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! It's addicting. All right, let me ask you a question. Tiger King's, I feel like it was a perfect storm situation, right?

Yeah. We were dealing with COVID. Yeah. It was well made. It was well made too. Absolutely. But I don't know how many of us would have gone looking for Tiger King during that time. Do you think that Tiger King would have,

do you think, I mean, you found Chip crazy. Yeah, because this is why, let me tell you something. The guy is a really good documentarian. In fact, he did such a good job on Tiger King. He does this clever thing where he's like, I can't be, I'm not gonna be able to go down and be an exotic animal documentarian person because everyone's gonna be like,

oh my God, it's a Tiger King. So he hires a guy to be a proxy director. So he never goes to the set. He's like working from like home base at his house. So, and then the geniusly high, oh my God, this is what's so, I'm not spoiling anything, but he, the guy he hires to be the quote unquote proxy director is a guy that's been totally embedded

and was in trouble for being in the exotic animal community So the people let him in because they're like, oh this dude's into exotic animals. He's cool. He's doing in a documentary on like the hobby Oh my gosh So they're showing all of the crazy they're giving you all of the crazy stuff. I mean, it's heartbreaking some of it. It reminds me of black fish. Is that the name?

It reminds a lot of black fish vibes with it, like how these animals are treated. And people get these chimps because they're adorable. And then they grow to be very large animals that need to ideally be free. And then they've been domesticated, so they don't know how to be, they can't be wild. They have to be brought to proper animal sanctuaries.

Caesar was Caesar. That can deal with these types of animals. But some people are so obsessed with these chimps that they keep them in cages in their houses when they're like You know 200 pound dangerous chimps the same thing happened to Caesar What do you mean from planet in the planet of the apes that's what happened to Caesar that's the downfall of men Okay, I didn't keep up with those.

Have you watched the Golden Child yet? No, why are you so down on me watching Golden Child? Because you've never seen it. Donald texted me like angrily. How can you be a fucking Eddie Murphy fan and not seen the Golden Child? I know, you got so mad last night, you called me the N-curse.

I didn't call you the N-curse, but you need to watch the Golden Child. You texted me that I was an N-curse. No, I said, nigga, watch the Golden Child is what I said. Yes. What? By the way, I've been smoking at Donald in so long, I've been in Europe, I come home, he fucking never texts me,

like his wife will at least be like, hey, how's Europe? Not Donald. And then that's what he texted me yesterday, out of the blue. It was so important. Watch the Golden Child so we can talk about it. I've never seen the gold child.

I've never seen the gold child. Do you love the golden child? I also have never seen the golden child. What is going on? I failed you. Oh, my gosh. Correct my mistake. I'm so sorry.

Oh, my gosh. What is going on here? This is an Eddie Murphy gem. For those of you who have never, look, this is, when I was a kid, this was the movie that, you know, Eddie Murphy's an action hero in Beverly Hills Cop. He's an action hero in The Golden Child as well.

There aren't that many, I mean, I take that back. There was Beverly Hill Cop 2, 3. There's a bunch of movies that he made. Did you make it through the new Beverly Hills Cop? Be honest. I haven't seen it yet. I'm not gonna lie. As I've gotten older, Eddie Murphy isn't as important

to me as he was. Listen, I don't ever criticize anyone's work. I try not to. I will say one tiny thing, that I began the New Beverly Hills Cop movie, and I have yet to complete the New Beverly Hills Cop movie. Is it good? No, Donald.

The man has just said he did not finish. I know, I'm fucked. I'm hungry, dude. What's wrong with you? The man has just said he did not finish. I know, I'm fucked. I'm hungry, dude. Oh, that's right. Oh, man. Now, look, there are certain movies that have that effect on me, but it's not because the movie's not good. It's just that I'm putting it on at a late hour.

So I was thinking that you were- That wasn't the case. Got it. Nothing entertained me more in my life than recent recent history more than Chimp Crazy everybody. You gotta watch that shit. When are we getting together? I would like to get together. I would like that a lot actually.

You can't go to the charity tennis tournament, I understand, but your wife's gonna be my date. Yes, she's going with you. And Bill's going, Bill's gonna play. We're playing in this charity. Well, I'm not playing. You're gonna play too? I can't play, I suck right now, I'm so out of it.

But I'm gonna go support and I gave money to the charity. And Bill's like my ringer, because Bill Lawrence is so good at tennis. He played in college and he's very good. He mostly plays pickleball these days. But I think Bill could maybe win the tournament. So I'm bringing Bill as like my, you know, I'm kind of like, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's Tiger's dad's name?

Mr. Woods. Yeah. Well, I'm kind of like, I'm kind of like Tiger's dad and Bill's my tiger. Got it. So you're going to bring Tiger and make you're going to be really hard on Bill. Yeah. I'm going to be tough on him. If he doesn't win this fucking tournament, I'm gonna be a huge dad and Bill's my tiger. Got it. So you're gonna be- Won't bring tiger to make- You're gonna be really hard on Bill. Yeah, I'm gonna be tough on him if he doesn't win this fucking tournament. I'm gonna give him some shit. Oh my God. Okay.

Give him into shape, let's go. I'm down for it. I'd love to see this. I'd love to see this. Did you watch any of the US Open? No, I haven't been able to do much. My wife went out of town on a little girls trip. I saw that. Not a little girls trip I saw not a little girls trip

But on a drink of wine and she went to was drinking wine yeah, and and I was with the kids and So my past week was me Being mr. Mom or mr. Dad back. Are you a good mr. Mom? I suck dude. I'm not really that good How many times did you yell at them? I didn't have to. They were well-behaved and stuff like that. It's just that we ate out every night, you know?

Like shit like that. Like I spent a lot of money on toys, you know what I mean? Your kids are kind of spoiled by eating out. They eat out all the time. They're like, sushi. Yeah, I want sushi. Yes. That's, those are my kids. Those're like sushi. Yeah, I want sushi. Yes

That's my kids those are me too. Can I be a child? Invite me to a day of shun. Yeah, what's been I missed the heat wave. It's been like 140 degrees here lucky. Oh It's so lucky dude. It was horrible terrible and I got people working in my, uh, in my, in my, uh, on my house right now, we're repaving our driveway because we had trees that demolished the concrete. Right. So we had to kind of repave it. So our cars don't hit bumps and get scratched underneath and stuff like that. And they were working in the heat and I was just like, holy cow. and they were working in the heat and I was just like, holy cow, you guys are, you guys are freaking superstars, man. Like I, you know, I stepped outside

and I was like, God damn, it's so hot. You didn't offer to help? No, I did not. I should have, but I don't have that in me. Like, you know, people are built different. I'm not, you know, I don't have that strength. They don't want your help playing asphalt. You're just gonna get in the way.

You could offer them some water. I'm sure you did. Yes. But they don't want the sparkling. Sparkling. They don't want, oh, you even went sparkling. How generous. Oh, planter.

Yeah. Gotcha. I'm presenting at the Emmys on Sunday. You motherfucker. Oh, what category do you know? This motherfucker. This is what I'm talking about. What are you mad about? I'm not mad about anything.

I'm very happy for you, but this is what I'm talking about, my dude. Like, this is how it's supposed to be. We say, Scrubs is coming back, and yes, it's time to start setting these seeds and planting these freaking, and start planting these freaking little tidbits here and there to let them know,

I know you're doing you and you can always do you and all of that stuff, but it's, you know, now it's time for the star of that show to start starring out so that when it does come back, okay, I'll shut up. That's what I'm talking about, my fucking- Yes. They sent me the copy for the joke they wanted me to say

and I was like, I'm not saying that stupid joke. So I've been rewriting it. And I just hope- Wait a second. Just don't diss the head writer of the Emmys. Who's the head writer of the Emmys? I'm not dissing anybody. I'm sure whoever wrote it is a genius person.

It's just not a funny joke. So I'm gonna- And now everybody who's listening to this is gonna wait for it. This will air long after the end. But my joke, hopefully my joke's better, but I've been working on it. I've been working on it. I sent it to some comedy writers I know

to tell me if they thought it was funny. Oh, did you? Yeah. Yeah, I did Mike Birbiglia's podcast, so check that out if you watch that, listen to that. It's called Working It Out. I thought it was really good. I really like Mike a lot. I think he's a wonderful writer. But Joelle, we got to book him on

our show because now he owes us a tit for a tat. Copy that. That's what's up. That's that. Now, we have a real cool guest today. Sure do. Isabel Fuhrman, incredible actress who's had a very long career and really interesting story that I want to get into.

Not only is she an actress, she's a doula. I don't know if she's a practicing doula. She could be. Why not? She's not doing roles. And doesn't do it. I know you get that, you get that degree to use the, the, the, the experience. And I wonder if she can use your doula skills in other ways.

Is there any other ways that your doula skills can come in handy? If you got a bad back, I'm sure she knows the proper, boop boop. You're constipated? Right, get it out. Your friend is constipated, you could help them crown? Oh my God.

That's... I'm so upset. No. Why? Five, six, seven, eight. There she is! Thunderous applause. Hi, Isabel. Welcome to our amazing program. Well, thank you guys for having me.

I actually am a huge fan of both of you guys and I love your podcast. So I'm very happy. Oh, thank you guys for having me. I actually am a huge fan of both of you guys and I love your podcast. So I'm very happy. Oh, thank you. We're happy to have you on the podcast. We're so happy to have you on and it's so cool because we have so many questions for you. First of all, I'm just going to go with the one we were talking about right before you came in the room.

How did you, we want to talk about your acting career. Obviously you've been working forever. You're so beautiful. Oh my God, you're even more beautiful on Zoom than you are in the movies. Stop it. But how did you become- Are you a Star Wars fan?

No, we don't care about that. Are you a, how did you become- It doesn't matter. Donald, Donald, I get the first fucking question for Isabelle. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Isabelle, since you listen to the show, you know we get very competitive with who gets to ask more questions.

Yes. How did you become a doula? How did that happen? Someone told me that you're a doula. Yeah, no, that was actually really, it was more so that when COVID happened, one of my friends was pregnant and she wanted to do this weekend doula course just to have a better understanding of her pregnancy.

And we watched this documentary that Ricky Lake directed called The Business of Being Born. And after doing that weekend course, I was like, I love this teacher and I want to sign up for six months and there's nothing going on. And maybe I'll never work again. And maybe movies will never exist and babies will always be born. And so I was like, I'm just going to go full granola mom, even though I'm not a mom yet, and just kind of dive right in. Wait a second. And so, yeah, go ahead.

Wait a second. I'll allow you one. Go ahead. Are you practicing? Yeah, do you practice? No, no. I mean, I, I, I think- Ah, you won that bet, Zach. You won that bet. Yeah, I think for me, it's more so that I would hope that it helps inform me as I get older. And also, you know, now I'm at the age

where all of my friends are getting pregnant and having kids. And it's interesting to be a part of those conversations and have some knowledge of like different herbs that they can take to help deal with their, you know, their first trimester and queasiness, things like that. I mean, you just kind of learn certain things about the human body and women in general that just empowered me so much more as a young woman that...

Will you go that route when you do have a child? Will you go the sort of home birth? I know that you have a dilemma. I want to. Yes, that's the route you want. A hundred percent. I mean, I totally want to. I don't know... You have to cross those bridges when they come to them and it depends on how old I am when I have kids and how healthy I am at that time. But my hope is that I can be in my living room and just do the thing, you know?

That'd be great. That makes me nervous, the home birth thing, I gotta say. I know the documentary you're talking about and I know how crazy the whole hospital thing is and I totally respect everyone's choices. I'm just saying as a neurotic semi, I worry about the whole, I worry about the home thing.

But you know, I'm close to a hospital. Some of these people do it in the middle of nowhere, and that freaks me out. So, you know. I think the cool thing is learning that like, it's women for all of history have been giving birth all over the place in fields, working, traveling, and we have amazing modern advancements with the hospital and it's incredible to have those options.

But the idea that I didn't even know until I was in my early 20s that I could have a baby without being in a hospital, that I didn't have to be scared of it, that it's something that I should just be informed about and understand was like earth shattering to me and made me go like, gosh, I'm so cool. I'm like a portal of life from another universe. Like, and that's a crazy way to look at like having a baby

is like, I am literally bringing in a spiritual being from another world. I am a vessel. I love that. I'm gonna need help. I mean, I don't even have any current plans to have a child, but I'm gonna need a doula. I hope that you're still available.

Well, maybe you'll be practicing. Well, maybe you're open. You know, I'm a pilot. And if you don't get certified every so often, you lose your license. Do you have to go to doula school to be doula ready, or once you're a doula, you're a doula? So doula and midwife are different.

If you're a midwife, you have to be like a nurse's RN. You have to constantly keep up your practice and everything. I think as a doula, your job is not to offer medical assistance or advice. your job is not to offer like medical assistance or advice. Your job is to really support the mom and whatever mom's decision of how she wants to have the birth. And I think the job kind of came to be, even though historically doulas and midwives were

kind of one in the same, the job of doula sort of came to be after birth has become so medicalized that sometimes women want to be able to have an advocate for them there that's not their very nervous partner going, oh, I don't really know, but someone there who at least understands what's going on and is like, let's keep the energy of the room good. Let's play some music.

Okay, this is what's going on. Yeah, let's put on Fix You by Coldplay and everybody calm down Hold hands and sob uncontrollably That's gonna be my birthing song when I give birth I be, I got the eye of the tiger, the fire. Okay. Or, I'm coming out, I want the world to know.

That's a good one too. Or what about rock, the rocky theme? Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Yes. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun He really wants to get on to Star Wars. Yeah, well, we're not going to get there yet. We're going to go back to the very beginning, which is apparently a very good place to start. Your performance in this movie at 11 years old. I mean, I was a child.

I was trying to be a child actor, but with very little success, I got a couple little things. But you were 11 years old when you got orphaned. Is that correct? Yeah, I was 10 and turned 11 while we filmed. How the fuck were you such a good actress? Where did this come from? Yeah, what were you doing before that?

What was it? How did this happen? I honestly don't, you know, it's, it acting sort of fell into my space and my lap in like the most crazy serendipitous way. And then, you know, years later, I'm like, it was so easy back then. Like it just kind of happened. And now I'm like grinding, grinding, grinding.

But, you know, I think everything goes through waves. When I was when I was a kid, though, Orphan was just an audition that I was sent through my agent. And I remember reading it because my mom had to read it before me. This is rated R. She blacked out all the like curse curse words and the sex scene in it. Really? So I had this script with all these black Sharpie marks that I was trying to read through.

Redacted. Yeah, redacted information. Redacted. And I remember reading that script and being like, oh my gosh, she just wants someone to love her. And I told my mom, I understand her. And my mom was like, what do you understand? What exactly? But I think there was just something about that script you know sometimes there are

those projects that kind of come into your life and you're kind of meant to do them and I hadn't done anything before I mean I had done a small independent film and a commercial and a pilot that didn't... But I was not like know, to lead a Warner Brothers movie, I don't think they really wanted to hire me originally because I had nothing really under my belt. It was very green. It's scary with an 11 year old kid because you just don't know.

Like it's one thing that they can do it in a tiny room in front of three people, but can they do it on a set? Can they do it? I mean, this movie has so many stunts and such scale to it. Totally. And there you are with two incredible actors, Peter Starzgaard and it's very farminglia,

right? Farminglia, yeah, yeah. And it's huge to be working with those people. I mean, they were real actors. They're not super crazy famous. They've been working forever. They're so great. I mean, I really was like a master class. I mean, Peter's one of the finest actors in the world. Yeah, I was about to say, just saying Peter alone, Peter Sarsgaard alone, that's a lot right there. And I got to seduce him at 10 years old.

Right. I forgot about that. No, it was very disturbing. It was a very disturbing moment at the time that shit came out. I remember that shit was very controversial when it came out. Yeah.

Let's take a break. We'll be right back after these fine words. Hey, Bo. Hey, Matt. Are you ready to tell the readers about the extra special episode we have coming up? It's raining. Yes.

It's pouring. I see so, but you can do that kind of spooky scary. Well, yeah, but it's also because it's a ride. Yeah, I know. Up and down on it. But you're in it, you know? Yeah, exactly. You're in the spook.

I think we have to let them in on our little surprise. Yeah, if you haven't already figured it out, can't believe this, Mariah Carey will be joining us this week. I say, oh, I want to go work with such and such from across town. Yeah, across town. My girl across town. Yeah, across town. I know a guy across town. Yeah, from across town. My girl across town. Yeah, across town. I know a guy across town.

I know a guy. Readers, publishers, Katie's, and finalists, tune in to maybe the most unforgettable episode of Lost Cultures this year. There's one more question which I promised myself I would ask. Can you drop that grunge album? I'm so mad that I haven't done that yet.

But you don't have to be mad because you're in control. I am, but who do I drop it with? So should we start a label? Maybe. Wow. Listen to Las Colteristas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On Thanksgiving Day 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez.

Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami.

Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Piece, the Elian Gonzalez story as part of the My Cultura podcast network available on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Stick to sports, sports and politics don't mix, or my personal favorite, shut up and dribble. I've heard these complaints throughout my sports journalism career, but despite what

some people believe, sports and politics have mixed since the beginning. Now you have a podcast that isn't afraid to explore the complicated marriage between sports and politics with a new podcast called Spolitics with me, Jamel Hill. Join me as I fearlessly explore political, social, and economical issues through the lens of sports with some of the biggest names and smartest people. You might even learn something. So here's the assignment. Listen to Spolitics on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And let's get Spolitical. Do you ever wonder where your favorite foods come from?

Like what's the history behind bacon-wrapped hot dogs? Hi, I'm Eva Longoria. Hi, I'm Maite Gomez-Rejon. Our podcast, Hungry for History, is back. Season two, season two. Are we recording? Are we good? Oh, we push record, right? And this season, we're taking a bigger bite

out of the most delicious food and its history. Saying that the most popular cocktail is the Margarita, followed by the Mojito from Cuba and the Piñucolada from Puerto Rico. So all of these we have, we thank Latin culture. There's a mention of blood sausage in Homer's Odyssey that dates back to the 9th century BC. BC?

I didn't realize how old the hot dog was. Listen to Hungry for History as part of the My Kultura podcast network, available on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I felt too seen. Dragged. I'm N.K. and this is Baskay Case. So I basically had what back in the day they would call a nervous breakdown.

I was crying and I was inconsolable. It was just very big, sudden swaps of different meds. What is wrong with me? Oh, look at you giving me therapy, girl. Finally, a show for the mentally ill girlies. On Basket Case, I talk to people about what happens when what we call mental health is shaped by the conditions of the world we live in. Because if you haven't noticed, we are experiencing some kind of f*** up conditions that are pretty hard to live with.

But if you struggle to cope, the society that created the conditions in the first place will tell you there's something wrong with you. And it will call you a basket case. Listen to Basket Case every Tuesday on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Now, wait, I have so many questions. So there was also this story that happened with the there was this documentary about this real case of this, of a family trying to figure out if a, what was your reaction when you saw that come out about this girl, they didn't know if she was actually a young girl or if she was an adult because none of her hospital records, I don't know, what was the name of that documentary?

Natalia Grace. Yeah. The mysterious case of Natalia Grace, which I have since seen. But at the time- Of course, I've seen everything. It was just a, this was so funny. So David Leslie Johnson, who wrote the original Orphan, he and I have been in touch since I did the first one.

And Orphan became a cult classic. It wasn't huge at the box office, but it really massively had its own fan base. And still to this day, all these years later, it's the thing I get recognized for the most. And people quote for Say the Line and Do the Accent. It's so iconic. Totally. And so he and I were talking because he had written, he had kind of had a friend, Dave Kogoshaw, write a sequel for Orphan and they couldn't get it off the ground years ago. And then this, you know, Natalia Gray story came up on Dr. Phil and I remember calling him.

I was like, can we get coffee? And I said, take it out now. I can't tell you how many people are sending me this article. Like I think we got to take it out now. And so that's how we ended up making Orphan First Kill. How did you, I'm sorry, I hadn't seen the sequel, which I will now will because I'm fascinated, but how did you, what was the premise that enabled you to this many years later still play a young woman?

How did that work out? It was such a team effort and I honestly didn't know, I was like, is this movie gonna be just so bad? I'm just gonna look crazy. What are they thinking? Exactly. I mean, they're shooting. How old were you? How old were you?

I was 23. We filmed it in 2020. We filmed it during COVID. And I mean, it was nuts. I had like a little chair that they made me that helped me walk around so I'd be smaller. Julia Stiles, who plays my mom in the movie, had these boots that were like these massive platform boots

that you can only buy. They're like pole dancing stripper boots. They're like really, really high heeled. And you- Yeah, and Donald has some, I've seen it. They're great, really comfortable. But you can only have them with like fringe or sparkle. So it's like, she was wearing those.

I was squatting half of the time, so I looked shorter. We did a lot of forced perspective. Like they lit everything that so it would look younger. It's like Ben Platt when they tried to make them have an answer. But that was the thing that I remember when I saw the movie for the first time, I was really nervous because, you know, you're seeing dailies and things are looking okay.

But when you edit a movie together, I was like, at the end of the day, I mean, I'm in my 20s, this is either gonna be the biggest. Are you supposed to be older though? I'm sorry, I don't know the premise. No, it's a prequel. I was supposed to be younger. Oh my God. I was supposed to be younger.

And the movie, when I went to watch it, I remember I was just so deeply uncomfortable because I was like, oh my God, somehow they did it. I look like I'm 10 years old again. I was there and it just didn't make logical sense to me. But they must have done some face work to you to make you look, did they de-age you? In certain shots, they didn't though,

we didn't have the money, honestly. I mean, I think that was the crazy thing. The conversations of like, they were gonna cast a kid and put my face on it, they made a mask for one of the girls who was my double. And then ultimately they just ended up deciding that we just have to be really clever, kind of like Peter Jackson did the Hobbit

We have to do everything for perspective and I had a bigger cup and a bigger fork Remember that movie we were kids down the the incredible shrinking woman. Yes. It's like that. They like got larger things Who was the star of the incredible shrinking woman was it Lily Tomlin? Yes, it was Lily Tomlin I have to see this movie. Oh, it's a masterpiece. Oh, I have to see this movie. It must be like 86, too well, I'm guessing. It's 80 something.

81? 81. 81? Oh, I remember seeing it. I was so young. But I remember that it's really funny, by the way. You should see it with your kids if you're looking for a good 80s movie. It's about a woman who just something,

she has some weird allergic reaction and she just starts shrinking. And she becomes- This is back when they made movies like All of Me and like Steve Martin, The Man with Two Brains. Right, but it was really funny. And she becomes tiny, like smaller than a Barbie doll. She gets really, really, really tiny.

She falls down the drain. I mean, it was kind of like, I definitely inspired, it must've inspired, Honey, I Shrunk the Kids, cause it was like that. Well, Alice in Wonderland was all of that too, right? Yeah, but I've never heard of that. You had never heard of Alice in Wonderland? I'm kidding.

Is there any chance of a third installment, Isabel? Can you go back even further? What if you're like a baby? I mean, apparently it's a conversation. They're writing a script. I haven't read anything yet. So I have no idea. I mean, the thing is, we did not think that the second,

like, you know, you don't expect a lot. You hope that the fans will come back. But the second movie people really loved. And so then it was like, okay, I guess we maybe are going to do a third. And it seems like that's like a real conversation. Well, that thing, first of all, the story about the real young girl woman

that it happened to, that just fascinated, I think, people. So that was like a real version of that. And also Megan, which was sort of a campy, campy, campy horror version of this was a big hit too. I mean, granted, she's not a robot. She's a robot, but it's in the same spirit. It was like a campy kid who's gonna fucking kill you. Right.

I love Megan, by the way. I'm not usually the consumer of this genre. Especially campy horror. I don't usually watch it, but I thought Megan was fucking hilarious and amazing. Yeah, I think that sort of iconic character, like a Megan or like an Esther, I think people love those sorts of things where you can dress up on Halloween and you can really kind of attach yourself to a

character and that doesn't always exist anymore. I think it's not as common as it used to be. You are definitely a Halloween character every fricking year. Oh yeah. It must be exhausting to get all of the Instagram posts of you, I mean it's flattering also. I love it. But holy cow, it's like you, Wednesday, like.

I actually have a great story about that, which was a few years, so when Orphan Two came out, I was in Austin, Texas with a friend and I was like, I'm gonna dress up like Esther and take a picture and post it on my Instagram. I, usually we come up with a group costume, me, her fiance and I wear like a trio costume. Couldn't figure out what we were gonna do.

And I was like, you know what? Fuck it. I'm just gonna dress up like Esther for Halloween. And we went to a concert, and the amount of people came up to me, it was like, your costume is amazing. Not a single person recognized me. And I just was, I was laughing the whole night. I was like, this is the best thing ever.

Because- It's kind of like when Mark Hamill dressed up like a stormtrooper and was walking around Comic Con with a stormtrooper mask on walking around Comic-Con with a stormtrooper mask on and was taking pictures with everybody and nobody knew that they were standing next to Luke Skywalker. Do you remember that, Joelle?

I do. And it was amazing. I really like it when folks go out and, it's like when celebrities go to Comic-Con and they just put on like a regular like dollar store mask and walk around. I did that. I did that. I think it's so cute. Because we had to shoot scenes from which I was here and they just put on like a regular like dollar store mask and walk around. I did that, I did that.

Cause we had to shoot scenes from which I was here at Comic-Con cause there was a scene outside Comic-Con and I, you know, I'm not Mark Hamill in the world of Comic-Con, but I would still had to be able to direct this scene and not have people being like, hey, can I take a selfie? So I wore this Batman mask and directed the whole scene

wearing a Batman mask. I mean, it's just genius. It's hiding in plain sight. You know what I mean? 100%. I also think just nobody would believe it. They're like, you know, what are they doing here? I remember when I was first coming up in New York

as an actor and I was PA'ing on music videos and stuff and I had a Halloween party and I had met Christina Ricci at an audition. She wasn't auditioning, she was accompanying her friend who was auditioning because she was already super famous. We met and we were chatting and I said, I'm having a Halloween party, you should come. She came to the Halloween party, which was much to my surprise because I had

this divey apartment in the East Village on Avenue A and 7th Street. I didn't know any, certainly didn't, she was a big star and she walked in. And I remember my friends being like, your costume is amazing, are you Christina Ricci? Like, is that your costume? That's so good. What a great costume.

I didn't know any famous people, so I didn't want her to feel uncomfortable. So I just started saying, yes, that's her costume. She's Christina Ricci. You know, everyone's wasted. They're like, you killed it. You look so much like her. Anyway.

Ha! Ha! Ha! You know, I did. Cause nobody believed that you could have that type of pull, that's why. No. That's it right there. Well, I just didn't. That's why. No. That's it right there. Well, I just didn't.

That's the only reason. That's why people are always like, that's why people always say that. I didn't live in a world yet of celebrities coming over to my Halloween party. That's why somebody, when people meet you or, you know who you look like? You look like that dude from Scrubs. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah.

Do you get that, Zach? I get that, I get you look like the guy from Scrubs and yeah, that kind of thing. Yeah, that's what I get all the time. And I get it, and I just make a joke. If that happens, I go, I get that all the time. That's what I say. Yeah.

You look like that guy from Scrubs, yeah, I get that all the time. He's way more handsome in real life. I don't say that. I say I'm more handsome than he is though. I say, but I think I'm way more handsome than he is. Sometimes I get told I look like Jack Shepard and then I just make up a story of like,

I am Jack Shepard. Right, yeah. And then I say like, Kristen's driving me crazy. Right. Yeah. You know what, I'm gonna start doing that because I get mistaken for people like Alfonso Ribeiro

and Jaleel White. From here on out, I'm gonna go with it. You're absolutely right. I am Jesse L. Martin from Law and Order. No, and you should be like, and then you should go, I am Jaleel White. Did I do that? Right, right, right, right, right.

I worked with Julia Stiles in a production of 12th Night at the Delacorte Theater in Central Park. And funnily enough, we were supposed to be, I was supposed to be her twin, because I was playing Sebastian. So if you can imagine trying to make me and Julia Stiles look like twins, like twins, brother and sister. Wait, wait, hold up.

Twins that look so much alike that she's mistaken for him. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And I mean, you really, I mean, granted in theater you get a lot of leeway, but that's just too much leeway. I will say that's the thing that I find magical about theater is I think people's skepticism

goes out the window, which is in every movie, no matter what you're like, Oh, no, no, that's not really, that's not really gonna happen or that's gonna happen or that's the ending in theater. You can kind of say anything. So I can, I can buy that. But also it's depends. Was this Shakespeare in the park? Yes, it was. Yes, it was kind of far away. I mean, you get a little space. I feel like, you know, you could buy it. Well, and also with Shakespeare in the Park too, there's so much, rightly so, they do all of this colorblind, multicultural casting.

So many times someone's the identical twin and it's like a black person. A black person and a white person, yeah. So it's like you really do get a lot of leeway at the public. There's only one that you can only, there's only one. Othello's the only one where the dude has to be black and the bad guy gotta be white. That's the only one. Everything else is up to interpretation,

but that's the only one. I remember Taye Diggs, I did, I was doing Bird, Sword, Broadway, and playing like, you know, I was playing a neurotic Jewish playwright in the 20s, and Taye Diggs came backstage and he was lovely. So the performance was great. And he said, how long are you gonna do this?

Do you think? Cause I maybe like to do it. And I was thinking like, Taye Diggs, I don't think you can play the neurotic Jewish playwright. I mean, maybe you can these days. Switch it up. Switch it up. This wasn't 2024.

I love the fact that Tay walked backstage and was like, Listen, you did great. You did great. I think I can do this shit too though. By the way, I love Tay D Diggs, but I love Taye Diggs. Taye, if you listen to the podcast, I'm not teasing you at all, but I was taken a bit back. I was like, I just crushed this big part on Broadway

and it came backstage and he's like, yo, yo, give it up. Let me take the part. That was my turn. Now it's me. What time are you leaving? When are you done? Because I'm like, dude, I just started and now you want to do...

And also, Tay, I believe in multicultural casting, but this would be weird, I think. I don't know. Nah, they would change it up. They would switch it up. Yeah, I'm sure. Well, I mean- You've done theater, right? Isabelle, I see you did a production of Macbeth. I did, I did. In New York, it was Macbeth,

and it was an all-female Macbeth that was about a group of girls who get together after school to do the play, and they bring new things in their backpacks that kind of up the ante and up the stakes of it. And it ultimately ends in the girl who plays Macbeth and Macbeth, my ultimate demise. And it was incredible. This sounds like a movie. This doesn't sound like a play. Hold on. This sounds like a pretty

good movie. It was an incredible production. Erica Schmidt, who wrote a Cyrano that Joe Wright directed, she directed and wrote that adaptation and actually workshopped it at Julliard and then did a production of it in Seattle before she brought it to New York. We'd worked together previously and she sent me an email and I sent her a tape of one of the monologues. But it's quite big shoes to fill playing that role. Which part were you playing? I played Mac. I played Mac. Yeah. And how much of the how much of the how much of the

play you're saying is sort of you're saying you're saying, yeah, you're saying it's sort of a play within a play. How much of the play did y'all do? There's no dialogue outside of the original Shakespeare part. It's just I think we probably did about 75 to 80% of the play. Like they, they made, we made some cuts so that way it wasn't as long. But yeah, they just cut Shakespeare. A lot of people who don't know, don't know that, but you're very rarely seeing the full show because it's so long.

Although Macbeth is, I believe the shortest. Yeah. We didn't cut very much, to be honest. Yeah. And it was was an incredible ensemble cast. If you saw the full Hamlet, you'd be there for five hours. I mean, everybody cut. And I think people usually cut the same stuff that's like, you know what, we don't need that. We don't need that.

Yeah. But Matt Beth... They get the greats, to be or not to be, that is the question. Yeah, you're not going to cut to be or not to be, okay? That's going to be in there. You're going to get that. Yeah, it's like, you know... We actually had a or not to be okay, that's gonna be in there. You're gonna get that Yeah, it's like, you know You know, we actually had a really cool stunt to in play that, you know

The way that it ends is like obviously Macbeth gets to the boilers I mean, but it was it was a show so it's like I don't it'll never I don't know if it'll come back or you know What but we had this puddle on stage that we play in the whole show but there was like one part of it that when all the girls would attack me to like cut my head off I would dip my head underwater into this like hole and someone would hand me a snorkel and for seven minutes I would lie on stage and pretend to be dead while they walked around with a like a cut off version of cutoff version that doesn't seem safe And every night you ever wait hold on stress Say was there a night that you were like

What year was this I just have what year was this this was 2019 I have trouble believing that anyone allowed you to do this. It just feels unsafe. No, it was nuts. I remember though, every night we rehearsed this so much that we really had like a whole system and we had like a whole, you know, sign language, hand signal conversation of, you know, taps and finger movements to know like when everything was situated and good.

But there was one night where it's like the snorkel filled with water and I remember being like, I'm gonna ruin the show. I'm gonna ruin the whole entire show. I'm gonna ruin the whole show and the last seven minutes are gonna be over. But I was lucky that one of the girls noticed something was wrong and they surrounded me again

and I was able to come up. Oh my God. That's great, good stuff. But it was an incredible show and I don't think I've ever seen anything like that in a theater show. I just didn't believe it. This sounds like a really good indie movie, like, you know, Hamlet 2.

You know what I mean? That's a clever, you know what I mean? We have that in common as well. I was in a production of Macbeth at the Public Theater. My first part, actually, my first part out of Northwestern. Who did you play? I was the two young characters, Fleeence and Young Seward. Oh wow.

Because I was fresh out of school. And George C. Wolf directed it. It was a big production with Alec Baldwin, Angela Bassett, Aliyev Shriver, Jason Butler-Harner, Michael C. Hall. That's what I'm talking about. It was sick. Let's go. Yeah, I want to do another play. It's so bad, Isabel. Hall. That's what I'm talking about. It was sick. Let's go. Yeah, I wanna do another play.

It's so bad, Isabel. Your story is making me, I don't wanna snorkel under water. Let's do a play. I would love to do another play. Can we do a play? Let's play Twins in a Play. This is happening in real time.

Isabel, this is happening in real time. We're putting together a Broadway show right now. You guys should do fences, the two of you. Fences. We were talking about the multiculturalism of theater, Isabelle, and I would like to invite you to do fences with me. You guys are not going to make it. It's not going to make it anywhere.

I'm going to tell you right now, it ain't going to go that far. Well, Donald, I don't know. I don't know. It's the new era. I'm going to keep it 100 with you. There will be protests and all types of listening. There should be. They're going to protest it 100 with you. They will be protests and all types. Listen, they're going to protest us for bringing this up. I'm going to agree with Donald, it's not possible.

I don't think. Yeah, it's not possible. I wouldn't, Viola Davis, it's just, you don't want to touch anything she's worked on before. She's a genius. That was amazing. Yeah, oh my gosh, come on. And you know Denzel's doing Othello soon,

in the early next year I think. I was gonna say, was he playing? I'm kidding. No, right, right. He's done it several times. He's done it several times actually. He has? Is it a different production, different director?

I know it's with Jake Gyllenhaal playing Yago. He's doing it on Broadway? On Broadway, yes, Jake Gyllenhaal. I know he, didn't he do the movie Othello Tour? Oh, Joelle, Joelle is clutching her pearls. You didn't know this, Joelle? He did Macbeth. Yeah, he did. I know he did Macbeth recently.

He's never done Othello on Broadway. I don't, who would ever do it? But he's played Othello before, I'm sure of it. I don't know. Joelle can Google. That's why she has the Google machine. I think in college he might have. The Google machine. Let's take a he might have. The Google machine. Let's take a break. We'll be right back after these fine words. Hey, Bo.

Hey, Matt. Are you ready to tell the readers about the extra special episode we have coming up? Training. Yes. Exploring. I see so, but you can do that kind of spooky scary. Well, yeah, but it's also because it's a ride.

Yeah, sure, sure. You can go up and down on it. But you also because it's a ride. Yeah, I can't help but down on it. But you're in it, you know? Yeah, exactly. You're in the spook. I think we have to let them in on our little surprise. Yeah, if you haven't already figured it out, can't believe this. Mariah Carey will be joining us this week.

I say, oh, I want to go work with such and such from across town. Yeah, from across town. My girl across town. Yeah, across town. I know a guy across town. Yeah, from across town. My girl across town. Yeah, across town. I know a guy across town. I know a guy. Readers, publicists, Katie's, and finalists,

tune in to maybe the most unforgettable episode of Lost Cultures this year. There's one more question which I promised myself I would ask. Can you drop that grunge album? I'm so mad that I haven't done that yet. But you don't have to be mad because you're in control.

I am, but who do I drop it with? So should we start a label? Maybe. Wow. Listen to Las Colteristas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or whatever you get your podcasts. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh.

And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami.

Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Piece, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network available on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Stick to sports, sports and politics. Don't mix or my personal favorite, shut up and dribble. I've heard these complaints throughout my sports journalism career, but despite what some people believe sports and politics have mixed since the beginning.

Now you have a podcast that isn't afraid to explore the complicated marriage between sports and politics with a new podcast called Spolitics with me, Jamelle Hill. Join me as I fearlessly explore political, social, and economical issues through the lens of sports with some of the biggest names and smartest people. You might even learn something. So here's the assignment. Listen to Spolitics on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And let's get Spolitical. Do you ever wonder where your favorite foods come from?

Like what's the history behind bacon wrapped hot dogs? Hi, I'm Eva Longoria. Hi, I'm Maite Gomez-Rejon. Our podcast, Hungry for History, is back. Season two, season two. Are we recording? Are we good? Oh, we pushed record, right?

And this season, we're taking a bigger bite out of the most delicious food and its history. Saying that the most popular cocktail is the Margarita, followed by the Mojito from Cuba, and the piñac Lada from Puerto Rico. So all of these things. We thank Latin culture. There's a mention of blood sausage in Homer's Odyssey

that dates back to the ninth century BC. BC? I didn't realize how old the hot dog was. Listen to Hungry for History as part of the MyCultura podcast network, available on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I felt too seen.

Dragged. I'm N.K. and this is Baskay Case. So I basically had what back in the day they would call a nervous breakdown. I was crying and I was inconsolable. It was just very big, sudden swaps of different meds. What is wrong with me? Oh, look at you giving me therapy, girl.

Finally, a show for the mentally ill girlies. On Basket Case, I talk to people about what happens when what we call mental health is shaped by the conditions of the world we live in. Because if you haven't noticed, we are experiencing some kind of f*** up conditions that are pretty hard to live with. But if you struggle to cope, the society that created the conditions in the first place will tell you there's something wrong with you. And it will call you a basket case.

Listen to Basket Case every Tuesday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Wait, we skipped Hunger Games. What the hell was that like? That's a small movie, huh? I mean, that was like my childhood dreams come true. I was such a fan of the book and I Auditioned did you actually read the book before the movie? I was such a fan of the book. I had read the book like 15 times. I was like I Was like at the geeking point where I was seeing the cast and now in Spence and I was like, oh my gosh This is crazy. I

Don't buy that shit. This is what I'm saying, you got something. When Harry Potter came out, all these motherfuckers were going crazy, like, yo, they made Harry Potter. Do you know what I was saying? What the fuck is Harry Potter? Ha ha ha! You were in eighth grade when,

I guess you were in eighth grade, is that right? Yeah. So I was a huge fan and I auditioned for Katniss, actually, originally. Right, but you're two young. And then I met with them about Primrose, but I kind a huge fan and I auditioned for Katniss actually originally. Right, when you were two young. And then I met with them about Primrose, but I kind of fell in between both ages and I was lucky that Deborah Zane, the casting director, had me come in and read for Katniss and I was such a fan of the book.

I was like, can I do like a piece from the book? And she let me, which was very nice. And I think that monologue gave her the idea to have me come in for a clove. And that character was supposed to be like 18 and I was 14 and I just came in for an audition and they cast me off of it. So I was like a part of the whole summer camp of the Hunger Games, which is really

what that first movie was. I think everyone kind of wasn't sure what the success of it would be. I mean, we knew it had a huge fan base, but like, you know, we were just, you know, all young in North Carolina, running through the woods. So true. Were they teaching you guys how to use

all of these weapons and stuff like that? Yeah! I learned how to knife throw, which was such a cool experience. And we had the same stunt team that did the Matrix and all of that, and they were super serious. And I always loved being a part of the, you know, that whole stunt crew. Like, those people are so, the stunt guys are the coolest.

Like, they're the cool kids on set. That's where you hang out. That's where you hang out. And I just remember that we had, we had stunt tributes as well. So we spent so much time together, all of us. And I just, I wanted to do all of my stunts. I wanted to learn everything that I could. I was just obsessed with the whole process

of making that movie. And that was, and then it was such a huge hit. And yeah, I'm so happy to be a part of it, honestly. I made such good friends that I still have to this day. That's pretty cool to be part of something that was that huge. I mean, that's just, that was- You don't have anything like that in your livestock?

I've been a part of a couple of huge things. I'm just saying she was in eighth fucking grade, bro. And she was like, she gets up, she gets the second big part of her life. Yeah. And I couldn't tell anyone. That was the hardest. I mean, you could tell a 14 year old girl not to tell everyone, like you just got the coolest job ever. I was like, I, my friend actually almost like she locked me in her bathroom at her house because I you know All of a sudden my lunch at school was totally different because they wanted me to gain muscle for the movie So I went from like, you know having the normal school lunch sandwich Whatever it's like these prepared meals. They had like sent me to school with how do you not tell your friends?

It was like I just was saying like, oh, I'm going someplace for the summer, blah, blah, blah. Took my exams a week early and then just disappeared. And prior to that, my best friend was like, why aren't you eating the normal food that you eat? What's going on? Like she thought it was like something wrong and genuinely cared about me.

And she was like, you're not leaving this bathroom until you tell me. And I was like, I'm gonna be in the Hunger Games. Because she was like you're not leaving this bathroom until you tell me and I was like I told and and she was a huge fan of the book too. So we had a big like Kind of a moment, which is you know, that's amazing what I look back on eighth grade remember the most I tell her I'm jumping around but she rose I didn't see this one, but I love the premise, I'm in. Four female friends head off to Thailand for a hedonistic adventure replete with sex, drugs, booze, and relaxation.

When a drug lord kidnaps one of the ladies, the other three join forces to save their pal. Donald, I feel like that movie's our jam. Why haven't we, we weren't properly marketed to for this movie. I don't feel like we were either. Is it like really? It sounds like that movie with James Franco,

with all the girls go for a party weekend and mayhem ensues. It was like, it's a fun movie. I mean, honestly, when I watched the movie, all I think about is like, I actually had such a great time with the girls. Like we had really bonded and we were in Thailand. It was, you know, in 21.

So it was right as COVID was still kind of, you know, kind of starting to get back to normal. You were living dangerous. Oh, yeah. But it was it was an amazing time and And and the movie is like it's kind of like a nod in it to all these like action Classics that you really like my character does like the full Liam have Neeson speech from Taken Knappers on the phone. It's basically about like Is it a spoof or is it like serious? It's a group of girls who have no idea how to get their friend back. They were really just looking

to have a good time and maybe hook up with some guys and they end up with like a suitcase full of cocaine and their friend goes missing. And they just kind of have to figure it out because, you know, because why would you call the cops? They can figure it out on their own. They're strong independent women. They don't need no man. And so they just kind of take all of their movie knowledge that they have. Once I'm done with that chimp doc, I'm watching this. This sounds great. I really just, I'd never done a comedy before

and it came across my desk and I was like, I'm funny, I can do funny things. You are funny. I think you're very funny. Must have been fun to shoot in Thailand and go on all sorts of adventures in Thailand. I mean that was the coolest thing ever. Sometimes you're really, we're really lucky we get to work in really amazing locations and... I wish I did more. Donald and I really don't.

Donald, do you know what? I have a hard time keeping my nose clean. So I don't go to these places. Like the last thing I want is to freaking be in jail in Thailand for smoking weed. You know what I mean? Yeah, I don't know to these places. Like the last thing I want is to freaking be in jail in Thailand for smoking weed. You know what I mean? Things like that happen. Donald would have, well, I think you're allowed to smoke weed in Thailand.

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I don't know and I don't want to say more. I don't want to find out. Well, I want to film in some exotic places, Donald. Where should we go? Thailand? You know, I'm totally down with filming in St. Barts.

Yeah, when I saw that Vince Vaughn movie, Couples Retreat, I was like, you know, Vince Vaughn was just like, write me a movie that takes place in St. Barts. In Bora Bora. Right. I think that's becoming a trend more and more. What's the premise?

I don't know, I don't know. The premise is I'm in Bora Bora for months. Yeah. With my wife. With my friends, yeah. Yeah. Honestly, I think that's happening more and more. And I actually think that that's something I've been thinking about. I'm like, okay, as I'm writing my own movies, I'm like, where would I want to be filming? Where would I want to be? No, no, no, we have to be here because it takes place

on an island. So we really have to be on an island. I just got back from Paris and I, with the whole time I was thinking, I'm writing something that takes place in Paris. 100%. I was like, I wanna be here and I wanna make a movie here. It's the prettiest place. Did you go for Olympics? No, I just went,

cause I have a friend who's dialed in in the local and she showed me and my buddy around and just to sort of see the city from someone who knows the city's perspective, which I'd never had that experience. And I- I like this idea, Zach. I walked around-

I'm sitting here and I like this idea. I walked around and it's just so romantic and I was taking such beautiful, everywhere you point your camera is more beautiful than the last place you took a picture. And I thought I'm working out an idea that takes place there. But so it's sort of what you're saying.

I think your lead should be black. I think it should be called the American in Paris. But the thing is, when I... What if it's about a very loud, a very loud pothead who lives in Paris. Hey, you're talking about me? Oh my God, he screams, Isabel, I'm sorry. No, I don't think, I'm such a huge fan, Donald.

I watched Big Fat Liar as a kid. Yeah, I know you did. And then, and then, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, Uptown girls and clueless. I mean, I've grown up watching your movies and seeing you forever. You make me feel so young. Isabel, thank you. You make me feel so young. Do you wanna make movies yourself, Isabel? Yeah.

It's clear she does, she's writing them. Well, I know, I wanted to delve. I wanted, hold on, I'm being a good interviewer and I'm delving into that area. Okay. My bad, my bad. Go ahead, Isabel. I mean, I think a lot of actresses have this experience where you work on movies and you don't have any control

in what the final project is. And there's something kind of magical about that in its own way that you're like, okay, I came and I did my job and I'm a part of this huge orchestra that creates this final product. And I hope that I've done the best that I can and that everybody puts the same passion and love into it that it turns out but you know, it doesn't always happen and I

Love stories. I love telling stories I'm fascinated by people and and psychology and how could completely crazy we all are in our own individual way and you know, I just working I just worked with Kevin Costner and You know, he wrote this passion project in the 80s He's been working on it for so many years and watching him on set I was like, wow He is in his element like this is what he loves to do and you can tell by

The way that he trusts in his crew the way that he works with his actors and I was like I can do this I could totally do this and I think I always felt like I I could And I was like, I can do this. I could totally do this. And I think I always felt like I could, but I was like, oh, later on, later on, later on. But I've just kind of decided I'm done saying later on. Like I'm- Yeah, go for it now. That's right. I think Costner's first film directing himself was,

was Dances with Wolf. Dances with Wolf, the one the Academy were. I remember thinking even as a young person, I knew that Woody Allen directed himself and others, Mel Brooks, that's what I kind of grew up on. But I mean, the scale of Dancing with the Wolves, the idea that that guy was not only playing that part, but directing a movie that big, it blew my mind.

I never knew that that was possible. Yeah. Yeah, was possible. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Redford never did anything like that? Or Newman, Paul Newman? No, Newman didn't. Well, I mean, they directed movies, but I'm saying like, I'm talking about on this.

I can't think of a director. There's obviously examples, like the most obvious being Citizen Kane, but like, in terms of a director, you know, there's obviously examples, like the most obvious being Citizen Kane, but like, you know, in terms of a director making something so epic and putting themselves in the lead. I mean, there's, that'd be interesting to see. He definitely, he definitely showed a lot of actors in Hollywood that they could do that.

Like, you know, Robert Townsend comes to mind, Mel Gibson comes to mind. Yeah. You know, Keenan-Ivory Waynes comes to mind. They've directed movies where it's, you know, not only are they the star. Well, you did it too, bro. You directed a pretty epic movie that was... This is true. Well, no, the Garden State I'm talking about wasn't...

Yeah, I don't mean to minimize it. I'm just saying... It's the same exact... Skim, motherfucker! I'm talking about wasn't yeah, I don't mean to minimize it. I'm just saying I'm just saying Motherfucker dude, don't do this to don't don't don't don't do this. Don't do this, bro Well, bro, do this. Well, bro, don't do this. It's a very beautiful movie, man And I'm gonna thank you. I'm not minimizing. Okay. Thanks Muskets at fucking motherfucking Don't all just because motherfuckers shoot muskets at fucking... Motherfuckers shoot muskets. Don't all of a sudden turn, don't all of a sudden turn your artwork into... There was never a day on Garden State

where I was like, release the 6,000 horses. Right. Yeah. Okay. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha And by the way, I'll just say, the horses are way better trained than the actors at the time. Right, always, dude. Did you have to learn to ride horses for this show? For Horizon?

For Horizon? I mean, I knew how to ride. My dad taught me when I was really young, but I didn't know how to ride like you're in a western movie. I mean, that's totally different. I mean, that was like, I remember Scotty, who's our like head wrangler was like, if you think about it, this was everybody's car and the same casual nature that you walk into your car to sit on the 405. You got to feel that way when you get on a horse. Right. You got to feel that comfortable. Yeah. Did you get to that point?

Yeah, it took time. Honestly, it was also finding the right horse, because it's like figuring out your scene partner basically. There were horses that I liked working with and there were horses that I didn't particularly like working with. You trust some of your fellow horse actors more than others. It's like actors. It's like any scene partner. Well, you're incredible, your career,

I mean, it's very rare that someone can start so young and be so good at a young age and continue to have a flourishing career. So many kids get that shot and then it fucks them up or it makes them not hireable for one other, from one reason or the other. But it's just so impressive that you were crushing it at 11 and are still going strong now. Not only that, also that you were like, you know what, if it doesn't go the way I want it to go.

I'm a doula. I'm a doula. I'm a doula. I'm a doula. I'm a doula. No, I mean, I think that, you know, my mom and my dad and my sister and my grandma, I have a really great family and they always were telling me that having balance is really important. And, you know, I was really bummed at the time when Orphan came out, it wasn't like a huge box office hit,

but I am like so damn happy that I've had, like I was such a weirdo in middle school and in high school, I got to like have normal life experiences and go to college and you know, and now I'm kind of like, okay, you know, John C. Reilly did this interview a long time ago where he said, I never wanna be too hot, I wanna be always warm. And I always really liked that, you know.. I want to be always warm and I always really like that, you know

It's it's nice to be always warm means that at a moment's notice you can you can go up to a simmer I don't know that I'm always warm. I think I fucking cold Yeah, dude in this town. Sometimes I feel like I'm fucking everything's going right and then like 30 minutes later I'm like, I within seconds and everything's going right, and then like 30 minutes later, I'm like, oh, I fucking suck. Within seconds, within seconds. It's actually so true.

You're up for a big part you really want, and the director likes you, and it's gonna be amazing. I mean, the audience is tired of hearing this example, but I got this movie, and I made it, it was with me and De Niro and Tommy Lee Jones, and I was like, holy shit, I never did something like this. Then like, they got in a lawsuit, it never came out in the United States.

Like I just like, I just feel like in this town, there's so many ups and downs. I like what you're saying though, I believe it. Like, you know, we're put it this way, the obvious is we're all so blessed and lucky to be able to make a living doing this crazy business. But yeah, it is quite a roller coaster ride. And it is, and we're all very emotional creatures as actors.

I think that's the big thing is like, I have a lot of friends who don't work in this industry at all and I will say their rationale and levelheadedness about, when I'm like, I don't know, I don't know why it's not clicking. And they're like, well, did you do the best job you could? I'm like, yeah. They're like, well, you know, did you do the best job you could? I'm like, yeah.

Why are you so upset about it then? I'm like, I guess it makes sense. I think it's just that we're constantly applying for jobs, you know, that you're just constantly being told no. And at a certain point you're like, is it my hair? Is it my height? Is it something with me? It's like if we were all dating.

I mean, I honestly think this is gonna be really funny. What is that? My mom loves to cook and she's at my house right now. And every time. Your mom started a fire in your kitchen? No, no, no. I live in an apartment building where every time I use the stove, the alarm goes off.

Every single time. Man, I thought we was having a freaking like an emergency broadcast system break through. No, no, no, after the earthquake this morning. Oh my God, what the fuck? Really? You thought that was like a nuclear attack, Tom? That's where you went?

We, not even once. I went up. Ha ha, you did. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha We went to someone's smoke alarm went off and Donald was like this is the big one. This is the end. This is the end of everything. This is war games. This is war games. That's right.

He turned his key. He turned his key. Turn your key sir. He did it. Turn your key sir. He fucking turned his key. All right, Isabelle, you better go eat whatever your mom just burnt. It's such a pleasure.

Thank you for coming on. It's so nice to meet you guys. Turned his case. Oh. All right, Isabel, you better go eat whatever your mom just burnt. It's such a pleasure. Thank you for coming on. It's so nice to meet you guys. Hey, Bo. Hey, Matt. Are you ready to tell the readers about the extra special

episode we have coming up? It's raining. Yes. It's pouring. I see. So but you can do that kind of spooky scary. Well, yeah, but it's also because it's a ride. Yeah, I can't go up and down on it.

But you're in it, you know? Yeah, exactly. You're in the spook. I think we have to let them in on our little surprise. Yeah, if you haven't already figured it out, can't believe this, Mariah Carey will be joining us this week. I say, oh, I want to go work with such and such from across town. Yeah, from across town. My girl across town. Yeah, across town.

I know a guy across town. I know a guy. Readers, publishers, Katie's, and finalists, tune in to maybe the most unforgettable episode of Lost Cultures this year. There's one more question which I promised myself I would ask. Can you drop that grunge album?

I'm so mad that I haven't done that yet. But you don't have to be mad because you're in control. I am, but who do I drop it with? So should we start a label? Maybe. Wow. Listen to Las Colteristas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. ["The Last Day of the Year"]

On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez.

Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well.

Listen to Chess Piece, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Stick to sports, sports and politics don't mix, or my personal favorite, shut up and dribble. I've heard these complaints throughout my sports journalism career, but despite what some people believe, sports and politics have mixed since the beginning.

Now you have a podcast that isn't afraid to explore the complicated marriage between sports and politics with a new podcast called Spolitics with me, Jamel Hill. Join me as I fearlessly explore political, social, and economical issues through the lens of sports with some of the biggest names and smartest people. You might even learn something. So here's the assignment. Listen to Spolitics on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And let's get Spolitical. Hey friends, I'm Jessica Capshaw. And this is Camilla Luddington. And we have a new podcast.

Call it what it is. You may know us from Graceland Memorial, but did you know that we are actually besties in real life? And as all besties do, we navigate the highs and lows of life together. And what does that look like? A thousand pep talks. A million I've got yous. Some very urgent I'm coming up first. Because I don't know, let's face it, life can get even crazier than a season finale of Grey's Anatomy.

And now here we are, opening up the friendship circle. To you! Someone's cheating? We've got you on that. In-laws are in-lying? Let's get into it! Toxic friendship? Air it out.

We're on your side to help you with your concerns. Talk about ours, and every once in a while, bring on an awesome guest to get their take on the things that you bring us. While we may be unlicensed to advise, we're gonna do it anyway. Listen to Call It What It Is on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I fell two scene. Um, drags. I'm N.K. and this is Basket Case. So I basically had what back in the day they would call a nervous breakdown. I was crying and I was inconsolable. It was just very big sudden swaps

of different meds. What is wrong with me? Oh look at you giving me therapy girl. Finally a show for the mentally ill girlies. On Basket Case, I talk to people about what happens when what we call mental health is shaped by the conditions of the world we live in. Because if you haven't noticed, we are experiencing some kind of f*** up conditions that are pretty hard to live with. But if you struggle to cope, the society that created the conditions in the first place will tell you there's something wrong with you and it will call you a basket case Listen to basket case every Tuesday on the iHeartRadio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts What a great guest she was lovely, Oh my gosh. What an awesome guest.

Yes. I like her. And the behind the scenes stuff was even crazier when we were at commercial break and stuff. You guys missed a lot. I just feel so impressed when people can keep it going. She started at 11 and now she's still going strong. It's just hard. A lot of people who get accepted as a kid actor,

then people don't give them another chance when they get older. I mean, you're obviously an example of that. You were working as a child, but I mean, like, she got a huge lead as a child, and now she's still going strong. So I'm happy for her. She seems cool. And I'm glad she doesn't resent the industry

like a lot of child actors do when they get, as they get older You know what I mean? Uh for putting them through I mean shit we could go on and on and on about some of the things that some of the documentaries and stuff that have come Out about how young actors are treated in this industry and stuff and it's good to see that, you know Someone made it through. Uh, amen as and is uh And is thriving and happy, you know what I mean? And doesn't have regrets.

She seems super cool. Yeah. All right, Joelle, thank you for being the producer and bringing us a wonderful guest. So lovely. Everybody check out Bad Monkey, which I'm on. I don't wanna spoil it, so I'm not gonna say anything, nevermind.

Don't spoil it. Well, don't spoil Bad Monkey, but- I'm not going to say anything. Nevermind. Well, don't spoil Bad Monkey. But Bad Monkey is a good TV show you all should watch. Check out me on Mike Birbiglia's podcast, Working It Out. I think we had a really nice chat and I like Mike. He's a really good guy and Joelle's going to go guilt him into being on our podcast. In 2024, that's how it works. You do a tit and then you do a tat.

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Mm-hmm Hey, Beau. Hey, Matt. Are you ready to tell the readers about the extra special episode we have coming up? I think we have to let them in on our little surprise. Yeah, if you haven't already figured it out, the Queen of Christmas herself, can't believe this, Mariah Carey, will be joining us this week. Wow. Readers, publishers, cat's, and finalists,

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Now you have a podcast that isn't afraid to explore the complicated relationship between sports and politics with a new podcast called Spolitics with me, Jamel Hill. I'll be discussing political, social, and economic issues through the lens of sports with some of the biggest names and smartest people. So here's the assignment. Listen to Spolitics on the iHeartRadio app the biggest names and smartest people. So here's the assignment. Listen to Spolitik on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. Let's get Spolitical.

On Thanksgiving Day 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida. And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami? Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Jess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I'm N.K. and this is Basket Case. What is wrong with me? A show about the ways that mental illness is shaped by not just biology, swaps of different meds, but by culture and society. By looking closely at the conditions that cause mental distress, I find out why so many of us are struggling to feel sane, what we can do about it, and why we should care. Listen to Basket Case every Tuesday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey friends, I'm Jessica Capshaw. And this is Camilla Luddington. And we have a new podcast, Call It What It Is. You may know us from Graceland Memorial, but did you know that we are actually Luttington.