Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - Katie Lowes, Every Pretzel You've Ever had is a Piece of Crap

Episode Date: February 25, 2025

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Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. What you trying to get into? What day of shroom? What you trying to get into a day of shroom and what you're trying to do You know, I'm trying to animate Yo always trying to animate I got I had I had elder and Calvin over just now and We was lighting my shit And I got a nice little reverse shot to the stuff that I've been working on. I'm really excited

It took from nine to 1231, which is why I'm late. I apologize. To get one shot. Not to get the shot, to light the shot. Wow. It's animation. So everything moves and the light has to stay consistent. You gotta have a lot of patience for that animation.

You gotta have a lot of patience, but I got it. True that. Do you think this color is too much for me Donald I it's loud I was wondering if you were trying to be invisible like it's like a green screen shirt you know I'm also video team to cut crop on the video team could could do something clever with this like maybe they could give them a clean I'll give them a clean frame and then they could do floating head Zack Very nice. Okay. Now they can use that and just make me floating here You know what they can also do is they can put if you stand up just one time

Yeah, and freeze it they can put the date of your concert that you're throwing In a couple of months. On my shirt? On your shirt. Well, it's March 29th, put it on there, guys. March 29th at the Greek Theater. Donald, by the way, I meant to ask you, I'm gonna ask you live in front of the listeners.

We'll do it live, fuck it! We'll do it live. Will you be a presenter at the Benefit concert and introduce one of the bands with me. Is it Coldplay? No. Then I don't know if I'm available. I thought, you know, it's funny you say, Jesus.

You know what's funny about this? You know what's funny about this? I thought that our shtick, sorry, this is a spoiler for those of you coming to the concert, but I thought our shtick could be. Is it a black guy? Yeah, no, no. Is it what you said when I gave Donald

the Garden State script. Are there any black people in the script? You know, and then to which I responded, yes, there are two black men in the movie. And you said, am I right for any of them? And I said, I already gave the part. No, I said, for one of them, you're not right.

And for the one you are right for, I already gave to method man to which you replied that I don't need to read the script. And he never read it. And I thought we could tell that story to the audience. Sounds great. And then I thought the other story we could tell, sorry, this is a spoiler for any of you coming to the concert.

The other story I thought we could tell would be, do you remember we did a friends and family screening of Garden State. Oh gosh. Maybe like a 50 to a hundred people who I knew were like, you know, just, just so we could get feedback. That was the wrong choice of words. You can't say to get feedback because I gave feedback.

And you were not. That was the funny story is that the movie had an ending that I needed to trim. It was too dark and it kind of was multiple endings, but I was clutching onto it. I really didn't want to let it go. And Danny DeVito, who was the executive producer on movie, he led the focus group after watching the movie

and said to all of my friends and family and people that worked on the movie, he led the focus group after watching the movie and said to all of my friends and family and people that worked with the movie, he said, does anyone feel like the movie has too many endings? One hand shoots up in the center of the audience, Donald Faison, and he's got things to say. I looked at him, I looked at him, I go, I said to him, yo, I'm sorry, dog,

but it does have too many endings, man. I feel like it is too many times. I was like, you run away, you come back. You know what I mean? It just seems like, what is it going to be? Is she going to be alone? Is she going to be with you? Well, that part I cut the sort of dark ending. That was a sad part of the ending that I cut.

But you were right. you and Danny DeVito and everybody else, Bill Lawrence, everyone who gave me notes was right, that I needed to trim the ending. But the point was that I wasn't ready, I wasn't there yet, and I was certainly not expecting my best friend to be the one who shoots his hand up to Danny DeVito and be like,

I have things to say. I remember you started laughing. You started laughing, you were like this ninja. Because everybody else, like even if they were thinking it, they're my friends, they're my family, they might, they were trying to, I imagine if I was in that situation, you're like trying to think like, what's the tactful way to do this?

I probably should tell Zach I agree with Danny, but maybe I'll do it in private. This dude's arm, shut up. I have things to say. I got notes. I think, I believe our friendship is like that though. I believe if I had something and you were like it doesn't work You would say right away. It doesn't work. I mean, I would say that your wife does that all the time

Yeah, we are around. She doesn't censor birds of a feather. Yeah. Yeah, she doesn't my wife doesn't censor at all I did I know she doesn't have that argument and then when you get in an argument you're like what the fuck she's like I'm just keeping it real. Don't y'all want me to keep it real. Yes Ross Spector. No judgments. She also says no judgments. I'm just keeping it real.

No judgments y'all. Alright no judgments y'all. That's what she says before she drops some crazy shit. All right, no judgments, y'all. And then she says something crazy, outrageous. And you're like, oh, I agreed to no judgments. I said no judgments. I said no judgments.

I inadvertently signed up for no judgments, but I have judgments. She doesn't give you a chance to say whether you sign up for no judgments. She just says no judgments and then launches into some shit. You might have judgments about. She does not give a shit. So much so that she at the Grammys, yo. Oh, so good.

That was pretty impressive, man. So good. She did a whole Broadway musical number performance performance a la Matilda. Love it. Yeah. I was texting Donald the whole time. All of them that whole that whole new artist, the new artist section. Oh my god, man.

That's probably the best new artist category I've seen in a really, really, really, really long time. But it's usually just one flips off the piano. I don't even know that dude. And I said that song, Vincent, please. I, by the way, I want you, I need you. Oh God, don't take these beautiful things. Dog, by the way, I I've heard that song of course all over the internet but I've never seen what he looks like nor that he was such an incredible performer I

mean that was amazing that out of all of them in my opinion he's the best performer but no whoa whoa slow down don't you was fucking amazing I mean absolutely but I'm talking this motherfucker is just by himself on a stage doing flips don't she had a lot of props going on So did serena carpenter cost to bring a car. I know doubt but the ones that he had just a piano and Him and a sparkly ones and a band and a sparkly ones and a sparkly onesy freaking What's your name? What's her name? Shoot pink the pony is a chapel

Chaperone she had a freaking whole thing to you know what I mean like everybody had some type of You know It's just him and the flips and Yeah, and the onesie. He was hot. They cut to SZA in the front row after. She was all hot and bothered. Did you see her face?

She was like, damn. That boy got it. That boy got it. All of them got it though. That was the thing. That was the thing that was so amazing. Everyone in that category had it. Even the band that really didn't sing,

they were just playing the music. They had it. What was the name of the English singer? I don't know her either, May? Something with an M, oh, Ray. Ray. Sorry, Ray. She was incredible.

She's delightful, love Ray. Oh, I never heard of her. She was incredible. I mean, this is why the Grammys are good, is that little section where you get to learn all these musicians you didn't even, never heard of before. That is what makes it.

I didn't know Shaboosie was like country. Yeah. Yeah, exclusively. That's Dolly Parton's godson. Really? The dude was getting no shine until freaking Beyonce. What do you mean? She did blow him up, but after he had a number one track

for like a record breaking amount of weeks, so he did the tipsy song remix. It was country that took over. And then he appeared on two tracks on the Cowboy Carter album. Oh, okay. And then, all right, wait, what about, oh, there was so much.

How about a Revo singing that song for Quincy Jones? Oh, yeah, she did great. That whole Quincy Jones moment, I was a little bit beside myself. This is really beautiful. I'm going to keep it 100 though. Will Smith did seem a little... I was out of place. He was a little shook. I thought it was a little...

Are you going to accept me? Are you going to... Are you going to... Am I... Are we cool yet? I don't know. I thought it was weird. Like if you're going to... If you're going to... If you're going to come back, am I, are we cool yet? You know? I don't know.

I thought it was weird. Like if you're gonna, if you're gonna, if you're gonna come back, don't come back in an award show. It just, to me, it could have not in my stomach. He's like, I can still hang out at the music awards. They didn't stop me. Exactly. I really feel like he was like, my kids are here.

I'm just hanging out, I guess. What do you think, Joelle? What would Joelle, you didn't, you didn't have a pit in your stomach when you saw Will Smith at an award show I was like Really what about his sons? What about his sons a hat? The kid knows how to trend the kid knows Everyone's like everyone falls for it every time.

He's like, I'm gonna wear a house on my head, and then everyone talks about it and makes memes, and he's like, I won, everyone's talking about me. Dude, that was like, he knows how to get that attention, man. He's good at that shit, man. He's great at it. Jaden is amazing at that shit. He has mastered the art of,

I would like to be trending all over the internet. Yes. I'm gonna wear a house on my head. He wore a house on his head. That's a custom designed house on his head. I saw a funny meme where someone put like a... an angry face in the hole where his was. It was like...

And it was like dads when someone's turning around in your driveway. Yeah. Highly relatable content. That's funny. Well, I thought it was a very entertaining show. Most importantly, I just thought it showcased so much talent. And those categories were like, how could you possibly... By the way, our friend Andrew Watt won two Grammys, one for Die With a Smile and one for Best Rock album for the Rolling Stones.

I'm going to say something really quick. Wait, before you do, I just want to say. It has something to do with Andrew too. But go ahead. I just want to say that then they dropped that whole Gaga thing. It's so good. Yeah, Andrew wrote that. Well, he's back and she's back.

Oh, wow. They killed it. The way the girls were like, to the club immediately, added to the hit playlist, like the new workout album, the new dance club song, it's fire. I mean, just how talented this kid is. He won best rock producer with the stones. Benny wins whatever the category was for Die with a Smile.

And then they showed they debuted that whole Lady Gaga fucking music video and he wrote that song. I'm gonna say something. Go ahead. I feel like Charlotte Lawrence got a lot of FaceTime at the Grammys. Yeah. So beautiful. And she looked amazing.

And I believe now is the time to capitalize because I know a lot of people were saying, who's that lovely girl right there? Who is that pretty young lady right there? I know there were several- Well, she's got a lot of urns in the fire. I know there were several people wondering who she was well, they're gonna find out in 2025 Donald I believe so I believe now is the time to strike Because the iron is hot and when you have her on a podcast she will come saws earphones

She will have a dongle. Oh yeah, she will search for a dongle and only have a butt plug. This is an Easter egg for those of you who listen to the podcast regularly. What you trying to get into a day of shroom? What you trying to do? How about this? We shouldn't talk about it, but this Baldoni, Blake Lively thing, that's just cuckoo pants.

That is nuts and I don't know what to believe at all. Well, I'm not gonna, we're not gonna go down there. I don't wanna be involved. But man, I started reading the manifesto. I don't wanna be involved. I spent way too much time reading the website he put up. I don't wanna be involved, yo. I do not want any of this smoke.

I'm not trying to get involved. But, true, did you read any of the website? I read everything aghast, the text message exchange. I was like, this is wild. But then even if you take a step back and you're like, OK, I'm not sure. This is all just stuff that's been admitted into evidence. You know, I follow a ton of lawyers on Instagram.

They've been breaking it down for me. And they're like, so this is like not all of this stuff is we're 100. We don't know the source of where these texts came from. It's kind of a mystery. Like how true is everything? And then like all this stuff playing out in the news. I like the judge. I think yesterday was like, uh, hey guys, if I keep seeing this stuff in the news,

we're going to have a real problem. Like this has got to stop. Well, I didn't wait. Hold think yesterday was like, hey guys, if I keep seeing this stuff in the news, we're gonna have a real problem. Like this has got to stop. This is an actual court case. Let me just ask a question. Did the judge say the gag order does not, there's no such thing as a gag order in this situation. You can't gag him. Is that what happened?

I think what he was just saying is he called both sides of lawyers to the bench and was essentially like, you guys cannot keep leaking stuff to, so I don't think there's, I'm not sure if there's an official gag order or not, but he's definitely displeased that all of this was playing out when it's an active court case. What's bizarre is that,

I mean, it's just so, a lot of this stuff happens all the time in Hollywood, but the fact that everyone's got receipts, it's so crazy. Yeah, dude. So crazy. Yeah, dude. It's so crazy. Dude, the receipts are... The receipts are flowing like a river. That's crazy. Holy cow.

It's like that thing, you remember that little typewriter that you had as a kid, the money counter thing, and you would pretend you were an accountant or... Oh yeah, the calculator that had paper. And the receipts just kept coming out, the paper just kept coming out. Now, that's what the receipts are like right now, bro. I love that thing. I love that calculator. I used to pretend I was a cashier at the supermarket.

Yeah, and the thing was just... That's what the receipts are like right now. I wanna get one of those on eBay for no reason, just to have one. You guys just keep eBay in business. Holy cow, yo. We do have Katie here when y'all are ready. All right, we're gonna let her in,

but again, we don't know anything, audience, but it is a fascinating story. And it's a story that- We don't wanna be involved either. We don't want- We do not wanna be involved. We're not like Candace Owens. We're not like Candace Owens.

Yeah. We're not doing a deep dive like Candace Owens. Yes. Candace Owens has- She's invested, yo. Candace Owens has pivoted to to full-time investigator of this story. She ain't playing around! I found myself about to be like, oh my god, am I going to click on a Candace Owens video?

I was like, you cannot. And I was curious about what she had to say. Let me not mess up my algorithm, please. Yes, Joel, for real. I was like, I don't want my algorithm to go down the Candace Owens wormhole, but I was curious about her thoughts on the issue. Yeah. Because my friend told me that she's gone all in.

I look forward to the Lifetime movie when all of this is resolved. Oh yeah. I want to play Justin Daldoni. Is it Michael Moore doing a freaking a documentary on it? Is that his name? Wait, Michael Moore? No, that would be wild. What?

Michael Moore does like social issues. He's not going to do that. This is a social issue. It's a Hollywood fucking it's a Hollywood he said she said about who took over a movie. And socially everyone is investing. Michael Moore does who fucking took down. Look it up. Literally. Oh, my God. Andy Weier, Michael Moore teases. What?

He's working. Something and it may have to do with the lively Baldoin legal dispute. This is according to Andy Weier, which I trust them. Oh, my God, Donald, I'm sorry. But I stand by that it's not a social issue, but that is crazy that he's doing. Why is Michael Moore doing his story about this? Because everyone is invested.

Everyone wants to see how everyone. But I think you're like, I don't care. If you think about the Me Too movement, I'm the opposite of Daniel. It's really interesting. Yeah. I'm the opposite of Daniel. I am very invested because- I get that people are invested for sure. Listen, I just wanna say because this,

a lot of this stuff happens behind the scenes and people never see it and people in Hollywood swallow it and they bury it and it never gets discussed. And because this is so public and because both parties have such lengthy receipts, it is kind of fascinating. It's horrible for all the people involved having their dirty laundry aired,

but it is sort of fascinating to everyone because this kind of bullshit and shenanigans happens all the time. This is like the OJ trial. This is like the Menendez trials. This is like freaking- No, without murder. Well, somebody's character is going to get murdered at the end of this.

Somebody's going down. There's a winner and a loser. There's got to be. It's not going to be, hey, you know what? You both are right. We're going to separate it. Somebody's going down. I don't know who it is,

but somebody's gotta take the fall for it. How about the whole side quest of fucking the allegation that Nice Pool is based on Justin? And it's like a total diss at Justin. It's my favorite thing on the planet. It's so funny to me. And then in the credits for Deadpool, what did they do?

They, no, what did they do? Ryan has a character who he called, like he's played in another movie that was his twin. It was like, oh, no, it was for any, one of, you know, Ryan's big thing is that he partners with brands to release different commercials that are timely and effective in like, whatever's in the zeitgeist at the moment.

So at one point he was interviewing himself and his twin was named like Greg or something. And they gave a thank you credit to Greg at the end of the Deadpool thing. And people think that that's like, Greg was playing Nice Pool, Nice Pool is supposed to be a reference to Justin Baldoni.

I don't know if any of this is true, but these are the theories people have come up with online. Yeah, cause Nice Pool, I didn't see the movie, but Nice Pool apparently says like, I'm I have a podcast on women's issues and he's got a man bun like Justin. This is one of those things that he should have just swallowed, though, because that's like man bun has a podcast is so broad. But you bringing it up and being like, that's me, makes people go, hmm, hit dog hollering. Maybe.

What's going on? A lot of questions. All I'm saying is there's going to be a winner and there's going to be a loser. It's not going to be a one-sided situation. She's got more money than God and a following. I don't think so, Jewel. I don't think she's winning currently in the zeitgeist in the court of public opinion. She'll go through the same thing all women do, which is once you're accused, a whole

bunch of people will be like, she's awful and we hate her and da da da da da. And oh, she had her wedding at like, on a plantation. It's awful that but she has Ryan Reynolds money behind her. Again, more money than God. Justin Valdoni doesn't have any of that and enough people will say plantation. Sure did. She sure did. And that's why black women do not like Blake. Sure did. She sure did. And that's why black women do not like Blake Lively. What was the theme? Was there a theme? Yeah, it was slavery. Just kidding. Yeah, for real. I mean, not kind of, but not really. It was like, oh, antebellum classy kind of vibes.

And it's like, oh, well, girl, that's strange. Antebellum. Them ladies, the lady antebellum changed the name because antebellum is not, it is not appropriate. All right. We can talk forever about all these funny shoes, but I think we should name because Annabellum is not, it is not appropriate. All right. We can talk forever about all these fun issues, but I think we should, we should invite our guest in. Donald, do you want to? Before we do that, five, six, seven, eight. Here's some stories about a show we made. About a bunch of docs and nurses and a calendar

who love and hate. I said here's the stories that we all should know So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our Scrubs Rewatch show with Zach and Dono Hi, Katie! Katie! Aloha, Katie! Hi, Katie! How are ya? Hi, friends! Welcome! How are ya? Welcome. Hi, friends. Welcome.

How are ya? How good are you? I was just thinking about how many things I have to ask you. I don't even know where to begin. The last time I saw you was at a Joshua Raden concert. Is that the last time you saw Katie Lowe's? Yes, it is. I love Joshua Raden.

We have a mic coming. Oh my God, I love him. I mean, my husband likes him. I really like him,. We have a love, right? Oh my god, I love him. I mean, my husband likes him. I really like him, but my husband's like, I think my husband would leave me for Joshua Raiden. That's how much that man's sweet, sweet vocals really entice my husband. Your husband is a fan of Whisper Rock.

I remember the sounds. And I, wait, there's one other guy in the Whisper Rock. What remember the sounds. And I? Wait, there's one other guy in the Whisper Rock. What is his name? Oh, God. It's Carrie Brothers. Oh, and Adam loves Carrie Brothers more than anything. He loves him. But there's one more. Oh, God. Oh, God. I want to text him so bad.

Oh, God. It's like an interesting name. He's in the Josh Raden crew. It was my 10th wedding anniversary. We were in Napa. The guy sang, it's a whisper. I mean, it's like, you can't even clink a glass like in the bar when you're listening. It's horrific.

I mean, it's like scary. Even when Josh comes on the podcast, he takes on this character voice that is not really how he talks in real life, but he plays this guy. He's like, hey, everybody, how's it going? Thanks for having us on. It's so nice to...

Whisper Rock is so wonderful. It's so nice to be here. Just great to be here. I feel like he's gonna be the singer. Like he, because of that, I feel like we'll be singing till he's like 100, right? Like I feel like I've yelled so much of my life and I feel like my voice is already just trashed.

Well, you have a really good voice. Let's start off talking about you, our guest. Oh my God, let's talk about- You were in one of my favorite musicals. Waitress? I love Waitress. I have a very special place in my heart for Waitress. Why?

Well, I love Sara Bareilles more than anything and B, Nick Cordero, our friend that we lost, was in the original cast. And I saw the show so many times with many different actresses. But you and your husband did it together. How cute is that? Oh, yeah. We... Yeah, it was kind of... You were Dawn, I assume.

I was Dawn. You know, me and Adam were the side comedy reliefs, which that's where we should... Chris Fitzgerald played Adam's original part. And I love that part. He comes in and he steals the whole show. Oh, the show literally stops halfway through. His character has a big number that stops the plot. Everyone's up on their feet, because it's comedic musical theater genius.

But Sarah Bareilles was a friend of Adam's for a long time. You know, we would go see her at Hotel Cafe with like 20 people at the beginning of her career. Before I took off, yeah. Yes, and she was such a superstar. And one morning, we had a seven-month-old baby, we got a text from her that was like, how would you guys like to make

your Broadway debuts together? That is so cute. And we were like, wait, wait, wait, hold on a second. Then fear sets in, I can't do it, I'm terrified, what are we doing? And we were also fans of the musical too because we were friends with Sarah and had watched it a million times because she wrote it

and then she starred in it. And by the way, for those of you who don't know the show, this couple is the epicenter of the comic relief. I mean, everyone's got jokes, but this couple that they play are the silliest and the funniest. And we get married eight times a week in the show. Yeah, that's the other thing, yeah.

So that's cute. But so after she said, would you be into it, then we had to audition a million times, which was... Wait, why? She offered you the part of that and said, would you be willing to audition? Yes, well, she was like would you want to do it we were like yes we would move to New York tomorrow with our baby we'd figure it

out and but then she was like but can you hack it I mean this is Broadway people this is the hardest am I allowed to curse on this yeah don't say fuck. Just don't say fuck. It was the hardest shit I have ever done. So when we auditioned a bunch of times, we had to send in a bunch of tapes, and I can sing the shit out of that Don Solo one time. I can do it once, and then I can't talk for two weeks. So I sold it, we booked the parts, within seven days we'd moved to New York, and in 14 days we opened on Broadway. That's the amount of rehearsal you get.

My God, I got goosebumps. I cried every day. I thought I couldn't do it. Thank God for my husband was like, just give it one more day, just give it one more day, just give it one more day. I think we got, I know, I know. You guys are such a cute couple.

It really is nauseating. It's nauseating. I Sit next to them at the Joshua Raiden concert that yeah where they probably canoodling and rubbing noses No, we sadly isn't into PDAs at all. I ask him all the time. I'm like, can you call my hand? Can you like kiss my neck like any of the shit from the beginning? We don't we're so we're like old bickering You guys were attached at the hip. You might not have been like all over each other and shit, but you guys were pretty like, eh, this is my person. I do need my person.

Go back to this story because I love, holy shit, I am about to open on Broadway and I'm not ready. Anecdotes. I was not ready. I'd never run it. I'd never run it. I mean, when you do see, okay, my understanding is if you originate a Broadway character,

which I've never done, you get a ton of rehearsal. There's workshops, there's notes and all this. But if you're a put-in, which is what we were, you get just put-in to people who came out of a show that already works, that's up and running. So explain to people that don't know theater at all, when do you rehearse on your own, of course, and you rehearse with the musical director,

but when are you rehearsing with the cast before you go live in front of an audience? You rehearse with the understudies for about a week and change before, and then you rehearse with the stage manager, who's sort of playing like 15 roles, which is just on in a rehearsal studio that's just taped out the size of the stage.

And then you get one put-in rehearsal, in a rehearsal studio that's just taped out the size of the stage. And then you get one put in rehearsal, the day of your opening, on a moving set that has revolving floors. You've never done it with the real cast. I'd never done it with the band, nothing. Wait, I'm getting so nervous. You did this, you get,

did you ever rehearse with the band before you went on the stage? That day, the one, you get, did you ever rehearse with the band before you went on the stage? That day, the one, you get one put in rehearsal with the band on the stage, with all the real props, with the cast, one. And then you do it that night. And I can remember standing backstage, I had a seven month old baby and I was saying, this might be TMI, but my mantra was, you pushed a baby out of your vagina you could do this. Yeah.

Yeah, real talk. Like I just was like I already faced. The biggest fear. Yeah, I had already faced my biggest fear which was birthing a person and like surviving to tell the story and that was already scary enough from like those seventh grade health videos of what birth looks like. But anyway, I survived that and I was like, then I can do this. But actually this was worse. This was worse than birth. This was worse. This was scary.

Wait, when you're in the pocket and you're feeling it and you're getting laughs, do you start to get confident? As soon as you guys know, you're such gamers. We both done theater and I can say for me, every single show I was nervous until I got a first laugh. And then I'd be like, okay, they're with me. Now I can laugh. That's how you knew that how the night was gonna go.

If I got, you know, I remember I opened up a play with the first line and the nights that I didn't get the laugh and there wasn't there wasn't a lot of them there wasn't that's because you're a genius but few but the one two three four times that I didn't oh my god I knew right there now this is gonna be a long this is gonna be a long night there's nothing like like I'm such a I didn't know I was ever gonna do TV and film. Like I grew up in New York, like my mother talks like this. I grew up in ozone park Queens.

Like I just thought I was gonna be a Broadway kid come hell or high water. Like I remember my mother being like, you should take driver's ed. And I was like, why? I'm gonna live in New York forever. I'm never gonna fucking drive a car. It doesn't matter.

And by 24 in New York forever. I'm never gonna fucking drive a car. It doesn't matter. And by 24 in New York, I was so overweighting tables and I had done off-Broadway for $250 a week, a million times over. And then someone was like, I think you should try LA for three months. And I did and told my parents I'd be home in three months. And then I just never went home. I met my husband.

You know, you start getting, I didn't get anything right away. I waitressed here too forever. You guys were, were you guys regulars at Ammo? I feel like I must've waited on you. Where's Ammo at? Ammo was on Highland, just north of Santa Monica Boulevard. It was a big power lunch.

Now it's Saltzcure. That's exactly right, Zach. Because I'm an investor in Saltz Cure, so I know exactly where Ammo is. OK, so Ammo was like a... I actually never really went there, but I know maybe once or twice, but I remember it was a hotspot. It was a big power hour lunch,

like producers and directors, and people would meet there because Highland was in between studios in the Valley and studios in Hollywood. Yeah, if you were coming from Paramount, it was perfect. Exactly. So I waited there forever, but you know, I kept getting like, oh, you're testing, you're testing.

And so it felt like if I went home to New York, like I was quitting or something, but theater is always gonna be my, it's my love. But to bring it back around, there's nothing more than every time I sign up to do a play, I'm backstage every night, every performance saying, why did I do this to myself? Why would I put myself through this?

This is insane. Why would I put myself out there to be judged by people? And wait, if they're- Right at 7.30, right at 7.30, you hear this is your half hour call, this is your half hour call. And right then you're like, why did I sign up for this? I just remember when that call would come out,

this is the half hour call, I would take the script out and go over every fucking line and speed through the whole fucking thing. Me too. Because I did not want to forget anything. Let me just go through this shit one more time just to make sure that I do. Even though you've done so many performances.

So many performances. I don't want to mess up. I don't want to lose. You know what I mean? I remember that. Speaking of being, what do you call the term, being a put in? Yeah, put in. I never heard that. But yeah, put in.

That's the first time I ever heard of that. We had an understudy on the, we had a bunch of understudies. And we never, I never met the understudies ever. I think we met them once, right? And we never rehearsed with them or anything. And this guy, it's crazy. This guy, Marcel Spears, who's now on the neighborhood. He played this character in the play called Slenderman.

It was, we were doing Picasso, the Panagio. We played Slenderman. And this is the hardest part in the play called Slenderman. We were doing Picasso, La Panagio. We played Slenderman. And this is the hardest part in the show because you have to come in for one scene and kill it. Yeah, classic. And then you are offstage. Hardest part in the show. Sure.

And everybody wants to do that part because it's also the funniest part in the show too, right? Right. The understudy comes in and we've never rehearsed with the understudy before. You don't even met him. You just come backstage and you've met him. Please God let it be okay. Marcel's in LA testing for The Neighborhood or some shit like that.

No, but he did a show with Yvette Nicole Brown before that. Love her. The understudy comes in. And he has two, we now know he has two nights. The first night, it's not the same, dude. It's not the same at all. Like it's, it's dead. The audience doesn't laugh or anything.

Oh no. No. Oh my God. And Marcel gets Marcel walks off stage and gets standing ovations. You know what I mean? Like, that's how good he was in the show. This dude comes in and leaves. Hal Linden has the line.

After Slenderman leaves, he goes, what the hell was that? And that was the biggest laugh that that line ever got. Oh my God. Just because the scene bombed so bad. So bad. Right? Oh God. Now granted the second night, the kid redeems himself. He gets applause when he leaves. And you know, it was great. But the first night, it was, it was

Well, it's such a big ask to go on stage. I mean, an understudy has such a hard task because they haven't done it and they haven't, you know, an actor gets, an actor who has the part gets to rehearse it, gets to figure it out. And chemistry with the people. With the cast and everything. Did you guys get to the point?

I got to the point, I have to say though, like I couldn't do it now, but when Adam and I got it, and like I said, I could only sing the song once. So when we first started doing it, I honestly didn't know if I could do eight shows a week. And I remember like, we were every morning, like just using like sign language hands for everything. Just save your voice.

To save your voice, we weren't going out to any restaurants in New York that were loud with friends who would come to see the show. Like absolutely not, it was all about saving voice. And I can remember I was paying this Broadway voice coach a bajillion dollars to keep my voice in check and all this. And then I come into my dressing room the first night and I have a personal nebulizer

and a scarf around my throat. I mean, I am playing the, I mean, I am really doing this. And I said to her, oh, okay, this is my vocal warmup. Like we're sharing a dressing room. I don't know what private space you need, but like this is my like, la la la la la la la, like doing all my stuff. And I was like, what's your warmup?

So I can give you space. And this is an amazing actress, Tony nominated, like, Aretha Franklin voice, incredible. And she just looks at me and she was like, I drink a Pepsi. That's her warmup. Oh my gosh. And I was like, oh my God, I am fucked.

Like, I can't do this. I can't do this. Who was the lead? Jenna. Jenna. Who did it? We started with Kat McPhee, which was wonderful. Yeah, I love it. She's perfect for it.

By the way, I almost was, do you know that I almost did the part with Kat McPhee? Zach, why did you not? We may have been in the show together. You know what happened? I got cold feet, because I, Sarah knew how much I love the show, and she eventually, and I had been daydreaming about it

to everyone, everyone. Oh, you would have been amazing. I made it known that it was my daydreaming about it to everyone. Oh, you would have been amazing! I made it known that it was my daydream. But you know what, I got called feet because Drew Gayling has the most insane voice and he originated the role and I listened to the soundtrack and I'm like, I just, I would feel, and I even said to Sarah, I said, I can't sing like Drew.

I can carry a tune. She goes, it's okay, we'll make it fit for you. And I was like, I know, but the audience who's listened to the soundtrack and heard Drew fucking Gayling, they're expecting like runs and harmonies and all this stuff that it's just, I can't sing like that.

And I loved Drew. I think you would have been great and you would have found other stuff. Listen, I would have found other stuff and I would have made them laugh with my own thing. But I just got in my head about, again, this isn't false humility, I can carry a tune, but Drew has a preposterous voice.

And I just kind of got in my head about it. And I didn't. That's like me saying, yo, you know what? I always wanted to play Alphaba after Nadal Nazim. After Nadal Nazim. Nadal Nazim does it. Oh my God. That's so funny.

But you actually, Donald has, I would love for once in his life for Donald to do a Broadway musical because he legit has a holy shit voice. I know. What? I didn't know that. You know, we go and, you know, we sing in these T-Mobile ads.

Yes. What happens is. With the Klugman, yes. We, oh you know Klugman too. Of course. We sing these ads and then they're like, all right, Donald, would you mind laying down like seven harmonies? And he does it.

Donald comes up with the harmonies with them, does them. And then I go to a scene and I'm like, do you guys want me to lay down any harmonies? They're like, no, no, we're good. Thank you, thank you. Were you a singer, Donald? Do you sing? I was in a band when I was a kid. I grew up in musical theater at the National Black Theater in Harlem and shit like that. My parents performed all the time and that was our thing. You remember

vacation when they're on the road singing the Marty Moose song or the Wally World song. Yeah, so you just sang all the time. That was us. Oh, I love that. I have to say, I hope I get, like, I would love to do it again because now, like, I have to say by the end of it, like how we started being so careful and freaked out, By the end, I was like the rest of the bitches in the chorus that was like, I was out at all the restaurants until four o'clock

and I was smoking cigarettes. I was drinking, I wasn't warming up. I didn't give a shit. Like it was so great because when you finally have done 175 or 250 shows, what happens to your body and your cords is like, it's like if you did a hundred crunches every day, like obviously you just get stronger and stronger. And I did my, I could just do it. I could just do it. I could talk all night the night before gas bagging,

blah, blah, blah. So now that I know that that's the thing, I feel like if I ever got the opportunity to do it again, I would have a better time. Right? That's fine. You can't do, I mean, to me, like, half the fun of doing a Broadway show is the fun you have after going out with friends and all the enjoying New York City together. That's where I saw you at Bar Central, Zach, or is it Bar Centrale? I don't even know how you say it. Whichever. Yeah, that's one of my haunts. That's one of my haunts as well. I was just coming off of, I do like a Broadway two weeks, every year, week I go see like every show I try.

And I was coming off of stereophonic and you were coming off of inappropriate, I think, or you had seen inappropriate the night before. We were on the same theater train. We were cranking them out. We were at Bar Central. We were with cast. We were drinking the drinks. I'm having my cranking them out. We were at Bar Central. We were with cast. We were drinking the drinks.

I'm having my Negroni. I'm having my fries. This motherfucker likes Negronis too. You guys went away back home to New York to the Tri-State area and somebody said, you know what you need to drink is a motherfucking Negroni. And all y'all motherfuckers, that's all y'all do. All you Broadway types, I'll have a Negroni.

Oh, I love a Negroni. I want to say our friend Preston Boyd, do you know Preston Boyd? No, who's that? He's our friend and he has the most insane voice of anybody I know. And he just did the Les Mis Tour as Javert. Wow.

And I said to him, I said, do you ever want to play Jean Valjean because he has the voice to do it? And he goes, no, I mean, the guy who plays Jean Valjean, I mean, he really ever want to play Jean Valjean because he has the voice to do it? And he goes, no, I mean, the guy who plays Jean Valjean, I mean, he really can't go out. He can't do anything. He's got to be like... He's like, he's like, he's got to go home. He's got to do all this shit you're talking about,

nebulizers and lozenges. He's like, I want to go have fun. So, like, I'd rather play Jean Valjean. Yeah, I agree with that. They also have all these, like, what I loved about it, too They also have all these, like, what I loved about it too, they have all these people, like, they have the Broadway doctor that comes and shoots you up with steroids when you lose your voice.

They have the Broadway doctor that stops by and shoots B12 shots, like, in everyone's ass to get through a five-show weekend. You're really part of a whole system of insanity. But singing with a band, I mean, how fun. I did Bullets of a Broadway and we had a- Oh my God, Zach. Well, it was great.

We had a 25 piece orchestra. I mean, and it was just like, it was one of the highest highs of my life. Oh, I love that. Guys, we should do Waitress in LA starring us. Let's check Sarah Bareilles right now. We could just do like a four limited show engagement. Donald could sing the Dr. Pomona part like a motherfucker.

Oh, so we could do that. Because I remember McPhee was who they were thinking I was going to be opposite of. And then who came on after McPhee? So then we had Nicolette Robinson. Oh, yes. I know her. Who is amazing and married to- You know her, Donald?

Oh, she's such a beautiful actor. She has an insane voice and she's married to- Leslie Odom Jr. Leslie Odom Jr. So when you're- Oh, it was a smash, it was like a smash reunion. Are you into smash? Oh, we both love smash.

Are you into smash? I'm the most into smash. I can't say- Do you know when I went and did a Broadway show, when I went and did a Broadway show, when I went and did a Broadway show, I was so into Smash, and I went to like all the dancers and everyone's like, so are you guys watching Smash?

And they're like, no. What the fuck are you talking about? And I was like, I was so geeked to talk Smash with them. I ran up on the guy from the dude that, what's the guy that dates, Why am I forgetting names right now? If you like sing 10 and 52nd Street, that's the one I always History was made at night Don't you know they're

Listen! Donald, you know they're making the musical of the show, right? Guys, we should all go! Can we all go? Oh, Donald, you're a great voice. Did you know, Joelle, you didn't know? Oh, yeah. Smash the Musical is set to open on Broadway. Yeah.

Bullshit! No, it is, and it's starring my friend Kat. It has a great cast, like solid, solid cast. We should all go. Who's playing McPhee? Hold on, let's look this up right now. I should have auditioned for McPhee? Um, hold on. Let's look this up right now audition for McPhee You definitely should and I will never forget

Smash on Broadway. Wait, hold on. I will never forget such a crush on her in that show. Oh She was the hottest of the hot are you She is so talented, her voice is... Oh yeah, let me be your star, come on! Like that was the banger! Well I've embarrassed this shit out of myself, I'm gonna look her up in one second, but I embarrassed myself when I was at an upfronts party and Leslie Odom Jr. was there,

and this is pre-Hamilton, pre-anything. Before all of that shit, yeah. Before he was a household name, before any of this, and I went running up to him and I said, your work on Smash is, is like. Are you serious? You went through the bitch. 100% honest, I was like,

I was like, whatever the drink before Negroni was in New York, whatever it was, I was on it, and I was saying to him that my husband and I. Your work in Smash. Your work in Smash. Did you clutch your pearls? Oh, I clutched my pearls, and I've saying to him that my husband and I... Your words smash. Your words smash? Did you clutch your pearls? Oh, I clutched my pearls. And I've seen him recently, and we still talk about it, and I still bring it up, and he remembers it.

And he was like... He thought I was kind of joking, I think. But wait, okay, hold on. This cast is... Look, the photos look amazing. I think we should go. I think we should try to go. I just can't believe that it made it to Broadway. Finally. It's a great idea. Dude, that's what the show is about. I think we should go. I think we should try to go. I just can't believe that it made it to Broadway. Finally.

It's a great idea. Dude, that's what the show is about. Let's get this show to Broadway. They're not doing it. And they did it. Just so you're clear, they're not doing the show within the show. They're doing the idea of a company trying to launch a musical. Yes, I know that, but that was the premise of the show.

When I first heard about it, I was like, oh, I hope they're not just doing the show about Marilyn Monroe. Marilyn Monroe and freaking the baseball player. So Crystal Rodriguez, who was originally on the TV show too, and I've seen her in a million Broadway shows, she's in it too, she's playing Tracy. I don't remember anybody's names,

but I remember when they made the TV show that the intention was that there was all, if it was a success which It was in our hearts and minds Two seasons Hey, we were the only three people We really were but I thought the original idea was that it was supposed to always be a Broadway show, too Yeah, am I wrong? But back then it may have been that they were going to then launch the show within the show. Right.

But they didn't because season two, season two, they completely scrapped the show and it's no longer in existence and these guys are all living in... Donald, we should do a smash rewatch podcast. I am into it. Oh my God, can I be a guest? Can I be a guest? Of course you can. There would be no audience.

The four of us would be the only audience. It would be... The four of us and McPhee. McPhee. McPhee would listen. But the cast is so good that, like, I feel like... They all became stars. They all became stars. They're all, they're all,

Let me be your star. Do you know Brooks Ashmanskas? No, who's that? Brooks Ashmanskas is a hysterical Broadway character actor. He's very gay and very flamboyant and he's fucking hilarious. And he's playing the director. I know who he is.

Yes, he's playing the director in the musical. Yeah, that's one aspect they've changed from the show. I texted him when there was a press release, I go, who are you playing, McPhee? And he goes, no, I'm the director. Oh my God. I think it's gonna be, I mean, I'm impressed that they've gotten the funding and everything.

I mean, to make a Broadway musical is so expensive. It's like, so that somebody must believe that there's an audience. Well, I will be seated, Katie Lose. I will be seated. I will be as well, like front. Okay, let's find out when it opens. But anyway.

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I could talk about Broadway all day. I have to admit something. I never watch Scandal, but I know that that was your big breakthrough. And I love where I can contribute is that Tony Goldwyn is one of my favorite people on the planet. Oh, my God. And he's the nicest person I've ever met. That was my...

That was my meet-cute with you, if we can use that word. Did we bond over Tony Goldwyn? Yes, we were at Brian Klugman's beach shack. Yes. And we were... Brian Klugman, for those of you in the audience, just to remind you, he's our friend, but also the Don Draper of all things T-Mobile. He writes all the T-Mobile ads and Katie knows him. Go ahead.

Yeah. I'd like to be an extra in the next spot you do. Thanks so much, Brian Klugman. Okay. Thanks for listening. Anyway, I love Brian Klugman. He has been a friend of my husband's for a million years. They grew up together in Philadelphia.

They're big eagles people. And my husband has this. Right, they're very excited because the eagles are in those Superbowls. Oh, I haven't, my husband has a Philadelphia soft pretzel company called Shappie Pretzel that- Wait, let's do that as an aside real quick. Okay, okay.

Because this story's fascinating. Oh, it's crazy. Sorry, I have so much to talk about with you. No, we have so many things to say. So Tony Goldwyn, yes, he's the best ever. And when I went up to him, I was like, I think we're friends with the same person, Tony Goldwyn. And we shared a sunset on the beach moment just sharing our doing. So Tony Goldwyn, yes, he's the best ever. And when I went up to him, I was like, I think we're friends with the same person, Tony Goldwyn. And we shared a sunset on the beach moment,

just sharing our love fest of Tony Goldwyn. Okay, Shappi Pretzel, guy top. Let's talk about Shappi Pretzels. Your husband created a hard pretzel because he loves them from Philadelphia, right? Yep, yep. And he couldn't find one that he thought was great out here. And it started during COVID, as I understand it,

because he needed something to do. And it became very, very popular, so much so that now it's a very popular hard pretzel brand. Soft pretzel, but that's okay. I fucked up everything but the texture. Hey, it's totally cool. Yes, in COVID, we realized we had a young, our son was probably two or three at the time,

we were like, fuck, we're never getting back to Philly, you're never gonna get a Philadelphia soft pretzel. My husband, we were bored out of our minds, he just, everyone was doing sourdough. My husband was doing like, every day figuring out how to perfect the art of making a Philadelphia soft pretzel in our oven, every day people from Philly are just driving up past our house and Adam's like,

try it, try it, try it, try it. Four or five months go by and someone's like, holy shit, I think you've got it. He cracked it. He cracked it. And then I was hosting, I was standing in for Kelly Ripa when she goes on vacation, which I was doing a bunch of at that time with Seacrest and we were shooting it

in our living room because that's what everyone was doing over Zoom at that time. And Seacrest was like, what's Adam been up to? I said, he's perfecting the art of making We were shooting it in our living room because that's what everyone was doing over Zoom at that time. And Seacrest was like, what's Adam been up to? I said, he's perfecting the art of making the Philadelphia soft pretzel. We sent him some, the next day he ate them on air. Adam just said, Adam Shapiro is his name,

but Shappi's been his nickname since Sleepaway Camp when he was eight years old. But he just bought Shappipretzel at gmail.com and Shappipretzel.com. And the only thing on the website was your mall's pretzel can go fuck itself And we have sold were the pretzels at the oscars underneath 5000 seats We're at fucking sofi. We're a palladium where it will turn Shut the fuck up. You're living my dreams

And so we're we just realized last night that it's almost a five-year-old company. It's a total side hustle, but it exists and it's like Adam's worked a bunch acting since then and we have all these fucking pretzel employees. We've, everyone knows where I live because there's- How many people work for the company now? We have nine employees. We have a shabby pretzel truck with my husband's face on the side of it parked outside of our fucking house. So everyone knows where we fucking live. Everybody comes by for that shabby.

Everyone comes by for that shabby. It's such a great story though. So where does the audience get them if they want to try? So we're on Gold Belly so you can get them shipped around the entire country and like the order, because when the Eagles make the Super Bowl, it is, I mean, my husband is not sleeping this week. Like it's over, it's done. We have a thousand people.

So wait, if I'm in anywhere in the country, I go to Goldbelly? What's Goldbelly? Goldbelly.com is like where you can get any of your favorite foods that are only like local to certain places. Like if you're like, I only like wings from this place, they might be on Goldbelly.

So Goldbelly is, it's like, if you like a Russ and Daughter's bagel, you can go on- Oh, I love a Russ and Daughter's bagel. Who doesn't? That was a good example. Yeah, you're welcome. So now you can go on Gold Belly

and you can get it shipped to you. So all of his pretzels are shipped around the country. But also if you're in the LA area, which it's LA, no, no, Philly born LA bread is the log line, because he's smart. How do you spell shappy for those? S-H-A-P-P-Y for those? sh-a-p-p-y sh-a-p-p-y so if you're in the LA area you can go to shappies.com

shappie pretzel calm we're out of Cantor's which is a Legendary Cantor's to yeah speak like every girl I grew up with You're reminding me notice how it's not Long Island, it's Long Island. Long Island, that's right. The more you talk, the more I'm just reminiscent of like Hebrew school in New Jersey. Oh yeah, oh my God.

I mean, I was home in New York this weekend and I was like, oh God, this is like so crazy. Like my mother has the six X. But anyway, so shappiepretzel.com was, shappiepretzel dot com was a shappie pretzel was a huge um just crazy falling ass backwards into this other business that we now run it's wild. It must be profitable are you making meaningful money off of it? I mean they're at the they're at the oscars. You're at the oscars. You know food business and perishable food is, you know what, it's not an act,

it's not an acting, producing, directing, but it's, you know what, it provides in so many other ways. It's a good side hustle. It's an amazing side hustle. And by the way, maybe you can go on Shark Tank. Listen, why don't you go on Shark Tank? No, all the Shark Tank people, well, between us and everyone listening.

Yeah, just the people listening. No one listening will tell anyone. We're way beyond that. And the sharks who we know and our listening. Yeah, just the people listening. No one listening will tell anyone. We're way beyond that. And the sharks who we know and our pretzel clients have told us that we don't need that. Like we're way beyond that. You're beyond shark thing. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hold on, hold on now. How about kiosks? You're making some really good fucking money if you're beyond the sharks. No, we just don't need, like we're not gonna give up. Like we don't need to give up. We have so many people who want to invest because they love Philadelphia.

I want to invest. Donald and I want to invest, Katie. They love Philly, they're, thank you, call Adam. I'll give you his number. But anyway, it's just, we don't need it. Like, you know, people go on Shark Tank because they're from a small town and they don't have connections. Like, you know, Adam from Clugman, I mean, Bradley Cooper and him text every day.

Like there's so many Philly people who are, love the company. Right, well, I want Bradley's shares before Bradley gets here. Okay? I'm not from Philly, but I would like to, but by the way, what about like- But you're from New Jersey, which is close. But what about, I feel like you could beat that. What's that brand that's in every airport? Annie Anne's or Wetzel's. Wetzel's, Pretzel's in every airport? Any ends or wet souls?

By the way when I go to the fashion square square mall here in the valley where we live and my kids want of Wet souls which they know no excuse me and any ends which they always want they always want it Run into people that they want the little cinnamon nuggets and whenever I run into people and we're holding those bags People take pictures. They're like look at you cheating on your trailer You know why your kids love that so much because of Miriam What Miriam did that? Donald and I also shared the most sacred Mutual thing which is our nanny who helped raise his babies,

who helped raise my babies. I got after you got. Yeah, she left us and went to you is what happened. And Miriam likes Wetzel's pretzels. Well, she would take the kids to the mall and feed them the frickin' anians. Oh, yes. Wait, has Shappi's Pretzels gone into the sweet world yet with cinnamon and sugar?

Yes. Those are called Little Albies, which is my son's name. My son's name is Albie. He works at Shappi Pretzel on Saturdays. He gets $2 an hour. He's seven. Oh, that's so cute. What about gluten-free?

Are there gluten-free Shappi's Pretzels? Oh, so here's the big reveal. For those of us with sensitive's seven. Oh, that's so cute. Oh, he's already in pain. What about gluten-free? Are there gluten-free shoppers? Oh, so here's the big reveal. For those of us with sensitive tummies. Yeah, so here's the big reveal. There is not, however, I was diagnosed, oh wow, this is really getting personal, guys. No one listens, don't worry, no one listens. I was diagnosed with, I have no symptoms,

it's silent, silent celiac, November 22nd. Silent celiac is a thing? And I can no longer eat gluten's silent, silent celiac. Silent celiac is a thing? November 22nd, and I can no longer eat gluten for the rest of my life. My husband was in tears. He was like, you're my pretzel queen. And now he is being forced into figuring out how to deliver to me, to the Los Angeles community and the world a gluten-free soft Philadelphia pretzel,

which maybe then, Zach, we might be billionaires if we crack that code. If you crack that code, Zach, it's definitely. Listen, I love soft pretzels, but I do have a sensitive, I'm not celiac, but I have gluten sensitivity. And I could have a bite and be like, oh my God, but if I eat a whole one, I'd have stomach cramps. Sure, sure.

Well, he's gonna break it it and why don't you come, we'll be the taste testers for the gluten-free soft pretzel. He's gotta get through Eagles, they have to win, and then we need to move on to the gluten-free. I didn't know that soft pretzels were a Philadelphia thing, I'm sorry. I didn't really either, to be honest. Because we have them in New York.

We have them on every New York street corner. Yeah, Nathan's has a pretzel. No, but those street vendors. They're shaped differently. The New York are Bavarian shaped, which is like, the fact that I fuck, you know this. Those are Bavarian shaped. And the Philadelphia pretzels are more on their side and more long and they're linked and you rip them apart.

Okay. Okay, I know. I'm going to you guys, like, so that you understand, like, what we're working with, because then you're gonna realize that every pretzel you've ever had is a piece of crap. Like, that's what you need to know. You really haven't had what this looks like. Like, they look like this connected.

Can you see this? Oh. And you see this? Oh. And you buy like four and you rip them apart. And you put mustard on it, right? We also have shabby pretzel mustard, both golden and yellow. My mouth is watering. Mustard on the beat. My mouth is watering right now.

I want that. It's really, really been a weird, bizarre thing, but. You know what you should do? What about hot dog buns? Yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah, yum, hot dog buns. When we expand.

When we expand. When we and Shappi's pretzels expand. Yeah, we do, and we have, like, we have, I mean, look, and also to be crazy, I know this is, this is turning all into an Adam Love Fest, but, and yay scandal, whatever, but I'm just saying, I, Adam, I real, Adam recurs on the bear and I saw him on the bear. And I think so much of that is because he's in this

like food world now, like crazily. What was the genesis of him getting that part? I mean, other than being a good actor. Well, he auditioned, but they were so like into the pretzel phenomenon and they were, they have so many chefs around the show and you know, he's just really now like a foodie. He like travels and makes little social media videos,

trying, he's got like a real snack, he never grew up from college trash snack food, it's what he specialized in. So now he just like shoots all this content but I really think a big part of the bear, you know, they like having food, food people around that have sort of like made a staple. And they really liked his, I think it was a combo. I think it was the acting.

And I think it was also, they were so blown away by his crazy story. Joelle, did you watch Scandal? Cause I don't want to give Scandal short shrift. I just don't know it. Oh, you're very sweet. Yes, I watched Scandal. Do you have any questions?

Hi Joelle. Hi Katie. Joelle might have Scandal related questions. My wife, Casey, watched Scandal. I love Casey. Oh my God. I love her so much because Nicole Chavez, her best friend is also my stylist.

Yes. Which is how I got her. The show was hot and heavy, right? There was lots of sex. I had so much sex on that show. Really? Was Adam ever jealous when you were having fake TV sex? You know, we get asked that a lot.

And when he married me, he felt like, oh shit, like I'm kind of falling for the girl that always has like a love story surrounding her, and this is just gonna be like a part of this. And he, you know, he doesn't really get that kind of part. But he actually has, he has now. He's just gotta fucking close his eyes and deal with it, man. I mean, the check clears, you know?

Like the check clears, like get over it. I mean, that's my job and like it's fucking awkward anyway. He knows it, I know it like I Just you know I Think he was on that show I was very lucky to be paired with a much older gentleman George Newburn that we love it as a dear friend And he probably wasn't much threatened by although He's a very handsome catch for everybody listening

And he's happily married blah blah blah But my other love interest on the show that I had dirty dirty sex scenes with is Guillermo Diaz Can I just say so? He's gay! You're Finnish! Oh he's gay! He's gay! He's gay!

So it's like, you know. So check this out. It's such a fucking small world You had sex with Guillermo Diaz? Not only did I have sex with him. no. Look, it's such a small world. So Guillermo and I did a short film back in the day before we were large called Busted with Lauryn Hill, who went to high school with Zach Braff. Love his work.

Ha ha ha ha! The circle. Circle of life. That musical still holds up. I'm just saying New York, the tri-state area is well represented in this, in this podcast today. I'm just put it out there. Can we watch Busted somewhere?

Is it like somewhere to be seen? I don't think you can watch Busted somewhere unless like my mom, I think my mom owns it. But he played the usher of the movie theater where the crackhead got, where the crack dealer got busted. Perfect. Perfect. Let's take a break. We'll be right back after these fine words. Hey y'all, it's your girl, Cheeky's and I'm back with a brand new season of your favorite podcast, fine words. And I know my mom had a very forgiving heart. That is my story on plastic surgery. This is my truth.

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But Shonda, what was crazy about it was that Shonda gave me the part. If I had had to attest it for it, like I had everything else that came before it, there's no way in hell I would have gotten it. Like I'd already been in front of ABC 8,000 times. Nobody was interested. Like, always a bridesmaid, never a bride. I had gone in front of Shonda a bunch of times for, um, and I'd been on Grey's Anatomy and Private Practice and Guest Art and things like that. But this role, I auditioned once.

She told me to say it faster. I did. There was something on the show called Scandal Pace, which was like speaking as fast as humanly possible. I'm a New Yorker. You're from New Jersey. We speak fast sort of inherently. Like that's just from, you know, where we're from. But and then about a week later, they were like, okay, they're going to test you. And I was like, okay, here I go again, get a test, probably won't get it. And they called me in for a test and I sat there and I was like, okay, here I go again, get a test, probably won't get it. And they called me in for a test and I sat there and it was Shonda and Betsy Beers and Linda Lowy, the casting director and casting associates

and the director and they said, we wanna bring you in, you're not gonna have to read sides and we wanted to let you know, we're just gonna give you the part. What? Wow. We brought nobody else in, we've showed your tape from your audition last week to the studio network and Shonda told them

that this is the only person she wants. That never happens. Ever. I was like, it was like American Idol, you're going to Hollywood, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And I sob. And the reason I know this is because they shot it

and it's on the behind the scenes DVD stuff and I posted it today because it's the 14 years of my life being changed. I mean, I was a babysitter and an assistant and a caterer and a bartender and a waitress and all the things. And I was 28 and I moved to LA at 25 and everyone was like, you old.

Like, what, why did you do that? Like you should have come here way earlier, honey. And she just gave me the part and I cried and I said, what happens now? And she said, you're gonna get a call about a table read. And I was like, there's gonna be a table read. And then she was like, you're gonna have a fitting. And I was like, there's a fitting.

And then I asked if I could hug everybody. And then I hugged everybody. And then- There's a fitting. Exactly. And then she was so kind to me that we shot the pilot and I she said what are you gonna do after we wrap this and I said I have to go back to my nannying job I was nannying for this psycho family that was very progressive billionaires who didn't believe in diapers and I had to hold

their kid over a toilet bowl and make encouraging pooping sounds and they would I mean it was unbelievable. But I told her this story, she loved it. And she felt so bad about waiting to hear. She called me and she said, hey, listen, I'm just gonna give you like a guest star in Grey's Anatomy to tide you over. You know, for-

Oh my God, she loves you. Oh, she's changed my life. And also I had both my baby, like I had my first baby the last season of Scandal, I had my next baby on Inventing Anna, which she cast me before we finished Scandal. I watched Inventing Anna, that was great. I really enjoyed that. That was her too.

But she called me in before Scandal ended and she, like the last season, and she, we're really, really, really close friends. And she just was like, do you wanna have a family? And I was thinking about it. And she was like, I just wanna let a family? And I was thinking about it and she was like, I just wanna let you know this is like, probably gonna be where we start ending Scandal and if you wanna do this on my watch,

like I will take care, I know how to do it. Like I will take care of you. I think, you know, she just was like, I can take care of women actresses who wanna have a family and start a family life and I went home and I told Adam, take off your pants. We're getting this. family life and I went home and I told Adam take off your pants. Take off that soft pretzel.

Get that pretzel harder. You better get that pretzel hard right now. We gotta go man, it's go time. And she's been an amazing friend ever since and I mean she changed my life. That's incredible. Oh it's crazy. amazing friend ever since. And I mean, she changed my life. I don't know. That's incredible. Oh, it's crazy. What a great story.

And what a testament to what a good person she is that she's like, I like you, I'm gonna look out for you. And she's done. Shonda, if you wanna look out for somebody else, look, I know I got a name already. I know I've been in a bunch of shit. Yes, oh, she would love you both. Oh my God.

But Shonda. She's a best. Call my after boy. I met her a couple Shonda. She's a best. I met her a couple times. She's always been very sweet. I took a picture. I took a picture. You had a show run or change your life. You too had a show run or change your life.

Yes, but yes, but I want Shonda to change my life. But I want another one. I want another one too. I want another one too. I mean, it's hard to, it's hard. That is so crazy. I feel like the three of us, we've been so lucky to, it's funny actually doing other shows with other showrunners

because I'm always like, oh, you can't just make that call. And they're like, no, they can't just like, like if Shonda makes a fucking phone call, it's happening. It's like done. Like if I need something, it's same with Bill, of course. But I've had to, I do other, I'm so lucky to get other jobs in, I'm always, they're just like, oh, we,

they're showrunners, like we have no information. I'm like, oh my God, like this is really hard, like you're in the same boat I'm in, like this is crazy. I think we were both deaf, all three of us were in instances where we were spoiled in how lucky we were by the level of talent of the showrunner. And then you go on other jobs and it isn't always that way. And for me, it was my first really big job.

So it was shocking. Yeah, same. Oh my God, same. And then it was my next big job. Like I've been in the Shondaland world for like 15 years. Like, so when I go outside, I'm like, oh my God, is everything okay? Like, is everything okay?

Did Anna Delvey ever watch the show? Do you know? Oh, I heard she watched it and loved it. I never got to meet her while shooting, but Julia Garner went to jail and visited her in jail while she was there. She's been out since. And it sounds absolutely fucking terrifying. I mean, that girl is a absolute sociopath.

Like I shouldn't even be saying it because she could know where I live because there's a Shafi Pretzel. She knows where the Shafi Pretzel trick is. Dan will cut that. No, no, I want to leave it. It's fine. I mean it's fine. Hopefully she doesn't care. I mean she's just like you know I mean she just there's no I don't know if you've ever come across a person like that I have not but in the amount of studying and watching, you know, we had access to a lot of videos of Anna Delvey. Anna Sorokin is her real name.

While we were making the show, the research department was amazing. But we had so much. And when you study her, like she just has no, it's meeting someone who has no empathy, like no compa- I don't know if you saw her on Dancing with the Stars this season, but it's like her answers are bananas. What is her answer? What did she say? Oh, she's just like, I don't care. Like, she gives zero fucks about anybody or anything except for her...

Like, she is a... It's wild. Dancing with the Stars was using her for clout. Yeah. That's what she said, right? She said that. And she was dancing in her ankle. Yeah. That's what she said, right? She said that. Yeah. And she was dancing in her ankle. This is our engineer, Danil. She had the boot on and was dancing with it. No, she was dancing with her ankle thing on.

She was dancing with her ankle thing. As I'm guessing the resident biggest Dancing with the Stars fan in our group. Thank you. I just want to point out that yes, As I'm guessing, the resident biggest Dancing with the Stars fan in our in our group. Thank you, Katie. I just want to point out that, yes, and Adelvie was a total joke on the show. At the end, she was one of the first people voted off and asked her, so what are you going to take away from the show? And she went nothing, nothing.

And then left. Was she good at dancing? I mean, I guess not. No, I feel so bad. I guess you're harder as it must have been hard with the ankle. I think with the way you call that mean, I guess not. I feel so bad. It must've been hard with the ankle. With the ankle. What do you call that thing? It's ankle monitor. The boot? No, it's ankle monitor. It's like this big. It's like a pager on your ankle. I don't know. She has like a big... How was she able to get to the Dancing with the Stars approval? They allowed me. They gave her... She got permission and approval during those windows to only go to rehearsal and go to the show, like that's it. That's hilarious. Is that not insane?

Yeah. No, it's so crazy. Anyway, now if you're listening, I highly recommend watching Inventing Anna. What streamer was it on? It's on Netflix. Watch it on Netflix. It was really good.

Julia Garner was amazing. She's the best. And we lived in Morocco for five weeks. It was the last trip. It was all of February of 2020. And we came home and COVID hit. COVID happened. Wait, why did it was the whole,

I know there was a section where you went to Morocco. Why'd you shoot so long in Morocco? There was one, first of all, this show was so big. This was unbelievable. Like I don't know if- They must have spent a lot of money. Yeah, I don't know if it was the Shonda effect or the Netflix effect. I have no idea. But we had a whole episode.

So like 90 something pages that basically happened in Morocco in the actual place where my character is conned out of like a $60,000 a night Riyadh. Like Anna Delvey is good friends with my character and is like, let's go to Morocco for the, that's a terrible impression. I can't do it. I was doing French. I don't know what's happening I'm not gonna attempt that again, but she does like let's go to Morocco for the weekend I'll pay for everything she goes and all of her cards get declined She skips out of town and Rachel basically puts down her Vanity Fair corporate company card basically puts down her Vanity Fair corporate company card. Right.

Because her personal card. It was like a $60,000 bill. $60,000 bill, exactly. And we stayed in the exact riad where it went down. We were with all the security guards that were going to take them away if she couldn't pay. They weren't allowed to leave the country. I mean, it was amazing.

And the hotel's called La Mamounia in Morocco. Was it a fun place to shoot? Oh, it was... Well, it's so fun because you don't have to act. Do you know what I mean? Like, you're there. You're in Morocco. Yeah, like you're there, you're like scared, you're like blown away by everything.

You're literally in like cars while like donkeys and carts are on the streets next to you. And you know, and you're drinking the Moroccan. Everything is so visceral and like full that you're just like, I showed up and I was like, oh great, I mean, this is shoot, this shoots itself. You know, it's just like so, it was so great. And Laverne Cox, it was me, Laverne Cox

and Julia Garner in Morocco for like five. That sounds like a good show. It was a blast. Shonda didn't make it to Morocco? No, she didn't make it to Morocco. It felt like we were all like the little kids. We were there with the director and the writer of the episode. I kind of always love that.

Shonda's always been, and I don't know if Bill's like this, but Shonda doesn't go to set. Oh no, Bill's the opposite. Oh really? Oh wow, that would actually make me so nervous. Oh my God. Yeah, he comes for every rehearsal.

He comes for every rehearsal. Oh my God, I just got so nervous. No, but it's good because sometimes- I just got so really nervous. But it's sometimes, it's good because sometimes it's not what you expect it to be when you get there. And Bill always finds a way to make it so it's perfect. Also with comedy, it's great because we have a base with the script, but then at rehearsal,

we all start riffing with him and we make it even funnier. That's such a good call. Yeah, she never comes never comes to set, because on Scandal at least, and a little bit on Vintagena, but Scandal, you had to be word perfect. You couldn't make up an of or an and or the nothing. She said, if you, what you say is up to me, how you say it is up to you, which is what she said. And if you ever did a table read,

every week we did a live table read, and then she would say, you have 24 hours to ask me for changes or Discuss or like whatever so there was always room to collaborate for sure but But anyway, so she didn't come to rehearsal and I kind of get it like I don't it sounds like because bills are always there This doesn't happen, but when Shonda comes to set set stops like everyone's freaked out.

Everybody's like, oh my God, like we need to like, and then also people are like, can I get a photo? You know, can you, you know, you've changed my life. Like, and that's so beautiful and lovely too, but she just sort of lets us do our work and she does her work. You know, another thing, I was there the day Scott Foley found out he was gonna be a regular

on Scandal 2. I remember that. We were shooting a movie. I saw that movie! Yeah, Let's Kill Ward's Wife. Yes! And we were filming, either we were filming or we were doing publicity for it.

And Nicole came in and he was like, yo, I just got added to the show. And I was, yeah, man, I remember that day too. And he was very, very excited. I was like, well, shit, are you moving? He was unbelievable, but he had a really hard lift because bringing it back around to Tony Goldwyn, this poor dude, Scott Foley, who I love so much

and is a very good friend of mine, he is always in a love triangle. Like that's the mark. Forever. Felicity. Felicity. Scrubs. Scrubs.

Oh my God. So this guy has to come in and try to get the girl who the audience is already in love and wants her with somebody else. Yeah. Every time. And poor Foley. But he's handsome enough to do that though.

He gets enough of the audience to be like, I think I'm into Foley, but really I'm into Goldwyn. And this poor dude has to do scenes where he's like playing basketball against Goldwyn, doing like, you know, you take off your shirt, I take off my shirt. Like, there's a lot of that. And he had to do that for seven years, which is not an easy task, I feel like. That is, and he's great at it.

He was my nemesis on Scrubs because Elliot dated him. And his name was Sean. And JD would always go, nobody cares, Sean. Oh, nobody cares. I did Felicity with Scott before that. Another love triangle. And that love triangle, but he was so fucking, that's the thing about Foley though,

he's so fucking good though, you know what I mean? Every time, he's just so good. He's so good and he's so funny. That's what I love about you guys and him on Scrubs, he's so funny and he's so good at being a romantic lead and he's just, he's a whole package. He says that no matter what he posts on his Instagram, he'll write like, celebrating this many years with the love of my life, I'm so lucky and blessed. And then the comments would be like, nobody cares, Sean.

That's so funny. And he definitely has scandal fans being like, you suck, we prefer Tony Goldwyn, like 100%. He had to deal with that for years, which was really bad. Yeah, because people are fucking nuts. They get so invested. Oh my God, well, TV's hard. TV, you're in people's living room every week. It's so like, they think-

I know, but they think that Scott Foley, the person is trying to steal Kerry Washington away. Well, Bellamy is another Scrubs alumni also. Yeah, she was one of my lovers. Whoa! No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, On Scandal, she was supposed to be in the pilot for three lines. She's one of those stories. She knows how to optimize. I mean, she killed it. She kills it.

And they kept writing for her. And then same as Foley, like second season series regular, Change Your Life, like just unbelievable story. I never even auditioned for Scrubs. Well, we might have another chance. There could be a possibility. Come on. I would loveed for scrubs. Well, you might have another chance. There could be a possibility. Come on, I would love to wear, I mean, is it great wearing scrubs and sneakers?

Is it great? You wear pajamas all day long. Oh my God, that sounds unbelievable. By the way, are you watching? By the way, I didn't tell you guys this. What? Well, I love this new show, The Pit. Oh yeah.

And I shouted it out on my Instagram stories because I just love it and I want everyone to see it. And I said, God, I love Noah Wiley. He's so amazing. Yeah. And he replied to me. Oh, hey! He said, Zach, thank you so much.

He goes, you know, we're getting so much feedback that this is the most accurate medical show since Scrubs. And I wanted to tell you that. And I said, oh, I love it. He goes, I said, I was actually out to dinner with Bill Lawrence, who also loves it. And we were guessing where it's going. And anyway, we had a little love fest, Joelle.

So I really want you to try and get him on now that I've greased the wheels. We'll follow up. Yeah, come on Noah Wiley, let's go. But then you watched that show, it's so good. Oh, I can't, I think I auditioned for that. Clearly didn't get it. Are we gonna wrap it up? Katie?

Do you audition a lot? No! I mean, you know, I think at this point... You know what you're getting when you get Katie Loaves. Yeah, no. I mean, I like, you know, I think I audition, hmm, I audition a lot, but thank God, I think if scandal got me anything, it's like in the way later rounds. So bless, like great, great, great, great, great.

Like I used to have to audition like 3,700 times to get for something and now it's like. For the casting director's niece. Yes, exactly. And now it's like, okay, we're down to the group, you know, in the, you know, we're down to the last things. And so that feels like an upgrade. But I don't know, this has been like a very odd sort of time

where it's dead, but that's okay. And I mean, you guys don't, you just get off, right? No, you know, I still audition. I haven't auditioned for anything in a while, but like you said, it is kind of dead. If I love it and it's competitive and they're like, you got to read to be in the mix, and I'm like, this is great, I read.

I would audition for Star Wars. I would audition for Marvel. No, there was a pilot. Whoa, you would kill that. Oh, don't get him going, please. Katie. You would fucking kill that. I know, right?

Oh my God, I see it. I see it. I see it too. I see it too. Oh my God. I see it too. On that note, Katie, you're an amazing guest. You're an amazing human.

My pleasure. Thank you guys so much for having me on. You are amazing humans. Please send me a gluten-free Shappies pretzel once they're done. I got you. And we have a three-way date to go see Smash when it hits Broadway.

Yes, we are going to have a three-way. Guys, I will honestly fly you guys. Wait, no, Joelle, Joelle, you're welcome to come with us too, because we know you love Smash. Yes, Joelle, please. I will be there, let's go. I will be seated for Smash. I'm very excited.

Smash on Broadway. All right, Katie Lois. Let me be your, what was your favorite song, Donald? What is it? Because history was made at night. So turn it and turn on the lights and listen. And stay tuned, because next week this becomes a Smash Rewatch 5. Thank you.

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I didn't know that you knew her, Donald. So we don't know each other, but we've sat next to each other at a Josh Raden concert when he was at the Troubadour. And also our nanny, my nanny, Verrocco, left us to go to Katy. Wow. Well, yeah, she's one of those people in town where we just know so many people in common. And I see her occasionally, but God, she's so entertaining.

I could chat with her forever. Yeah, it's that tri-state connection, I'm telling you. That tri-state love. Well, that was a lot of fun, everyone. I have to take my puppy to the vet, so we're gonna have to wrap it up. But Donald, I love you so much. It hurts sometimes.

You know, I, the feeling is mutual. I'm excited. I get to be silly with you on Friday. Friday. Maybe Saturday. Project for a secret project. Ooh. Top secret project.

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