Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - Real Friends Classic - 102: My Mentor

Episode Date: January 16, 2025

This week, JD tries to help a patient stop smoking, while Turk works up the nerve to ask Carla out. In reality, Zach and Donald continue their binge, sing the song that made Leroy famous, and share some never before told stories of what happened at the 2001 upfront Scrubs' party.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Right. Don't go full Faison. You went full Faison. You, Donald Faison, went too far in the Faison direction. Here's some stories about a show we made About a bunch of dogs and nurses and a janitor who loved me I said, here's your stories, let people should know So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our Sprugs Rewatch Show with Zach and Dono Woohoo! Welcome back everybody.

Welcome back to the Rewatch show with Zach and Dono. Episode 102, and now Donal, you pointed out something very wise, and that is that when you do a pilot, you shoot the pilot and then you have no idea if the show's gonna get picked up. Right. And there's often a lot of time

between when you shot the pilot, and then let's say the network says, okay, we're gonna make it a series, and then you go to a thing called the up- upfronts, which is when your show is selected, you go to a huge party in New York City where they announce where the network is going to announce all of the new shows. And this is a very thrilling thing for a young actor. Absolutely.

And also when scrubs got picked up, it was considered one of the better pilots of that time. And so when we went to Upfront, I remember all of the heat that we had behind us at Upfront. Like even the party for all of the Upfront shows was kind of themed towards us. You know what I mean? And you know, you get there and you meet a bunch of executives for the first time and you don't really know who they are because nobody really knows executives until you're on the network and somebody tells you, okay, that's my boss and that's his boss and et cetera, et cetera. Well, that reminds me of a wonderful story about you because we were, so first we go

to the party and it's this amazing party And it's you know, we were just wide-eyed we couldn't believe we were here. I mean I was waiting tables a few months ago and and Here we are in New York at this giant party and you have to take pictures with a lot of people and you know you're getting treated like a celebrity and you're not you don't even know who you are really yet at least especially in my case and And then then we go to this party and there were celebrities at the party. I remember Kevin Nealon, who I was a huge fan of from SNL as an example.

He was, I think I might have literally might've been one of the first celebrities I ever met was Kevin Nealon at this party. And I remember thinking like, oh my God, we're hanging out with celebrities. Like we've made it. Yeah, you know, Sean Hayes was another person who was a big champion.

Like he loved the show and it was really awesome to have the dude from Will and Grace, who at this point was really famous on television. Yeah, that show was huge. And do you remember any other stars that were at that party? I just remember because I was such a SNL fan as a kid that I was so geeked out that Kevin Nealon was there.

I think there may have been some other older SNL faces, but there were other- It was all the, it was like NBC rich. Anyone who was on NBC at that time was at the party. Now we proceeded understandably to get quite intoxicated at this party. I remember Bill Lawrence saying like, all right, you know, like don't like, you know There's gonna be a lot of executives at this party. Like I understand your New York your lives just changed But like don't get shitfaced Right to all of us all of us all of us shitty Sarah Chalk's famous line

Have you guys ever heard of a cosmopolitan? Yeah, they're great Chuck's famous line, if you guys ever heard of a cosmopolitan, they're great. Sarah stumbled up to us sideways and she's like, have you guys ever heard of a cosmopolitan? They're great. And then I remember, QT, for some reason at this bar, wasn't there like a... A trapeze. Like a trapeze. Not a trapeze. What do you call that thing where you swing on... A trapeze. You swing on a trapeze. It feels way too dangerous to have been a real trapeze, but was there?

So it was something like that. It was a bar in the middle. It was like a bar. I think it was on- In the middle of the bar. It was in the Meatpack district. I think it was called Park or something. Anyway. And she was on, I remember her being on the bar and flipping over and just showing everybody, you know, what she had on underneath that dress she wore that day. Because she was, and I remember her husband at the time being like, that's it, we're going home.

Time to go home. Let's go. Now my favorite part of the night is Donald was giving everyone noogies. And, All right, let's, let's, Let me tell the story and then you can clarify. Let me tell the story.

Okay, let's start from the beginning now. Let's start from the very beginning. Okay, so Scott Sasa was the dude that I thought was in charge of all of NBC at the time. I think he was higher up than Jeff Zucker, who we're gonna talk about. Jeff Zucker was, I believe, the president of NBC, who's now actually now the president of CNN,

but at the time he was the president of NBC. He had just come from whatever the Today Show at the time, and then he'd gone on to be the head of NBC. And I didn't know this. So Donald didn't know who he was, you're gonna ruin my story. Donald didn't know who he was. I thought he was Scott Sasson's assistant.

And Donald was going around giving everyone noogies, and I look over and Donald has Jeff Zucker, the president of the network in a full headlock, and he's giving him a drunken noogie on his bald head. And I hear Jeff Zucker go, please Donald, no. That's... Okay. For our entire friendship, whenever Donald tells me a cringey story that makes me want to run away, I just tell him about, please, Donald, no, Jeff Zucker. At this point, I'm giving everybody love because I'm so excited that we're on the network. It's going down.

And I look over and I see Jeff Zucker, in my mind, Scott Sass's assistant standing over by the bar, you know, by himself or he might even been with somebody. And I'm like, Hey, you come over here. I got noogies to give out. And he's like, he's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And I point at him again and I'm like, and I get a little bit more, you know, aggro about it. And I'm like, no, you get over here right now.

And he's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. And so I marched over to him drunk as can be. Oh my God. I've seen you march. When Donald marches his arms swing. And I walk up to him and I grab him and I put him in the headlock and I'm like, don't you ever tell me no. And I'm grabbing him and I'm giving Jeff Zucker a noogie and I remember Bill Lawrence like a few days later being like dude Donald I just have to ask you if this actually happened but did you give Jeff Zucker a noogie I was like I gave so many people noogies I gave so many noogies I can't recall who the

recipients of my noogies and he was like well apparently you gave the recipient of my noogies? And he was like, well, apparently you gave the head of NBC a noogie and he's not really happy about it. He wasn't genuinely pissed off, was he? No, I don't think he was genuinely pissed off, but he stayed away from me for a really long time. I remember he did come to visit the set, the hospital, and he kind of stayed away from you because he was afraid of-

He was very, very afraid of me. Yeah. That's very funny. Well, what else do you... So then I remember that night ended where we were in... I wasn't there. You were... This was you and Neil in.

I wasn't there. Oh, really? No, I wasn't there. Almost everybody ended up back in Bill and Krista's hotel room and we... It's kind of sweet slash embarrassing. We were so geeked out.'s kind of, it's sweet slash embarrassing. We were so geeked out. We were like, let's watch our pilot. So we were like, it was like a whole bunch of people

and Kevin Nealon, who I was a super fan of. And we just were watching the show. And I don't know, it was a sweet moment. I remember being like, just thinking like, I can't believe this is happening. But then the funny thing is you have a long time before you start shooting. So we made the show, it got picked up.

My mom freaked out that I quit my waiting tables job. She was like, but it's so long, what are you going to do? And I was like, Mom, I can live off this pilot money for a long, I was living so frugally with no money that I was like, I can live off this pilot money for a long time. So I'm going to write. And that's in that time is when I really finally sat down and put Garden State together and at my dining room table, I kind of was like, this is a sign.

I need to, I have this time that the universe gave me and I don't need to wait tables. And I'm gonna sit down and like put this script together. That's awesome. Yeah, I went away. I think I did a movie that year. I know I did something in between, but I remember also calling Danny Rose,

who was Bill's assistant at the time, every day, like, so when do we start, man? Like, you know, he's like, and we're gonna start probably around June or July. I was like, dude, come on, man. Like- Like it was up to Danny. I love it.

You're like, come on, man, we gotta start. We gotta start soon, man. I had a baby mama at the time, and we had two kids and one on the way, and it was like, I remember being like, I gotta get outta here, man, I gotta do something. Yeah, well you wanted to be working, you wanted to be like doing it.

Well yeah, and also we had this show that was picked up, but we weren't gonna work from May until July, or you know, it was a long time. Is that what it was? How many, I couldn't figure out, was it like four months where we waited and waited? We went back to work probably in the beginning of July, like most shows do, something like that.

Yeah, I just remember it being at like four months or something, but anyway, it was so exciting to finally start. And so this episode that we're going to talk about today, 102, by the way, just a little bit of oddness, they label TV shows in the hundreds so you can keep track of what season you're on. So a pilot would be 101, right? And then episode two would be 102.

And then when you start season two, it's 201, 202. So that way you know, anyway, just a little bit of trivia for you. So this is 102 we're gonna be talking about and it's called My Mentor. Okay so the show starts off and I remember singing this song for such a long time. Yeah. But uh it's by uh it's called Good Time by Leroy if you guys want to uh remind yourselves of the song and it was the first. Rolla. I really like You can sing it. Go ahead. I'm sure Leroy would be very happy.

Holy roller. I got shot down in Southern California. I remember being like, that's a dope song. And this is, you know, for me, Scrubs was a brand new experience when it came to music because I didn't listen to music like this. I listened to other types of music. And so this was one of the first examples of me being, Chubs was a brand new experience when it came to music because I didn't listen to music like this. I listened to other types of music. And so this was one of the first examples of me being, of me hearing this and being like, wow, we, and also, also seeing it for the first time too. And it being like a music video, it was like, wow, we're making music videos and also making

a story about how, look, in the beginning of the show, the hospital's in sync because of this song that you're listening to in your ear. We're on point. Everybody is doing their job. And I also noticed that we cut ahead a little bit also, so you're no longer, it's not the very next day. No, it's a few days in. But I just want to say, like, I was watching this, and granted, I haven't watched this in 20 years. Most of these episodes, I don't know about you, but one of the things that's fun about doing this podcast is with very few exceptions, maybe the musical episode or ones I directed, I directed seven or eight of them, I think. I only saw them once. So I haven't seen this in 20 years and it's so cool to look back and Adam Bernstein directed

this episode that was the same director who directed our pilot. And I just remember thinking, like you just said, that this was so exciting. We were like, the show was opening. Like this was stuff I hadn't really seen before in a show. It just showed the creativity of Bill and Adam Bernstein and the fact that the show was opening with this music video of how life in the hospital

when it's grooving is like a well-oiled machine. I just thought it was so clever. Yeah, I took notice of that because I don't, you know, watching this again, it all seems a little brand new to me. And I don't mean to, we were a part of the show. And so it was just an amazing moment for me. I'm gonna sound like, you know, I'm cocky and arrogant,

but, you know, watching it, I was like, wow, this is a really, really genius way of showing how awesome or how in sync this hospital is. And for that I was like, I love the show even more now. Now that it's 20 years later, I'm like, wow, we really were innovative and we really were different for prime time television. Regardless of how many people watched the show at the time, it really still does hold up.

Yeah, I have to say, and that's not you being arrogant because we weren't the genius people behind writing it, although we were. Yeah, but we were a part of it. I know, I know, but I'm saying. And you had a really big part about it, you know, you did, you told the story. I know, but I'm just saying like this, I think, you know, as credit to Bill and all the writers, this was just so original and different and exciting. By the way, how funny is it that I have a Walkman?

It must be 2001, I guess there were still cassette Walkmans. I would have thought it would have been a disc, but I guess JD had a mix on a cassette. Dude, you know, speaking of Walkmans, well, we can talk about it after season one, but I just remember you walking the streets of New York City with your yellow Walkman, listening to Michelle Branch.

Yeah. Cause you're everywhere to me. When I close my eyes, it's you I see. That was my jam. I am not as certain about loving Michelle Branch. I remember you walking out the house and being like- Did I have a yellow Walkman? It was a yellow Walkman, the Sony Walkman.

The dope Sony Walkman that everybody, if you had the yellow Sony Walkman, you had the dope, you know, everything else was all right, but that was the one, right? And I remember you being like, well, I'm out, I'm going to rehearsal. And that was when we were both in New York living together and you were doing Shakespeare in the Park.

That's a whole episode is Donald and I living together in Manhattan. We rented a loft together. He was doing a movie and I was doing Shakespeare in the Park and I would go out and bop my head with my yellow Walkman cranking, you're everywhere to me. When I close my eyes, it's you, Izzy. I'm not alone. Dude, I think it's very much JD that you had a Walkman with his cassette tape in it.

Yeah. I noticed that the first exterior shot is still not our hospital. At two minutes in, they cut to, which was an establishing shot from the pilot of me coming to work for the first day. I think that's the same shot, exact same shot they used in the pilot of me showing up to work for the first day.

Do you remember going to that hospital and us shooting a bunch of entrances, like me and you walking in, you walking in by yourself, you and Sarah walking in. Yeah. You remember all of that? Yeah. Yeah. But that was for the pilot, right?

No, that was for the show itself. Oh. We did a bunch of versions of us walking into this hospital. Oh, okay. And some of it never got used. But at a certain point, they just stopped using this exterior because it was not our exterior at all. I don't know where the hell that was.

I noticed that this episode has a lot to do with relationships, you know what I mean? And how we all started off kind of on rocky ground. You and I had the same relationship and you and the janitor have the same relationship all the way through. But everyone else, no matter how it's connected, has a different relationship in this episode. At this point, you don't mind being in the friend zone with Elliot. As a matter of fact, he thinks it's kind of cool that he has a colleague from work that wants to hang out with him and Turk. Turk and Carl aren't together yet.

You know what I mean? They're just starting their courtship. You and Dr. Cox, even though he's still giving you advice and stuff like that, I also noticed that this is the first time he calls you a woman's name in the show. Yeah, I noticed that too. I think it's right around where he catches them smoking. Yeah, he calls you Susan. But this is, you know, you guys weren't in sync yet.

So you don't really know this guy and you're trying to get to know him or JD's trying to get to know him, but they don't really know each other that well yet. And, uh, I'm jumping ahead, but that stuff in his apartment is phenomenal. Going back and looking at it, I was like, I had no idea one that it was this funny and two that it was this important. You know what I mean? Like I had no clue watching it back then.

It kind of seems like a blur. And, you know, to be honest with you, most of this episode, I don't remember. Yeah, there's things I don't remember. I don't remember my, it's funny. I don't remember my head exploding. I mean, no, I don't. I mean, I remember, I don't remember doing that gag.

A lot of the stunts and stuff, I remember. I remember falling over when he closes the door on my leg and stuff, but the head exploding. I don't remember shooting that. But I want to just pick up what you said. I agree, a lot of it is about establishing these relationships that we're going to follow ultimately for nine seasons. And also Judy really comes through in this episode. Judy Reyes says, Carla- Amazing! She does some awesome work. And it's establishing a really important theme that I think comes across throughout the whole series

is that we young doctors are learning the importance of nurses. Because we come out of medical school and we're super cocky and we think we're gonna be badasses, but we learn right off the bat, not to be cheesy and say the theme song, but we can't do this all on our own. We need the help of the nurses. And every doctor we ever talk to in doing research would say, yeah, I mean, the nurses run

the show. If you're a layman and you don't know, you have no idea how much work and pressure and stress the nurses are all constantly under. And I was thinking about that now, especially with the Corona crisis going on and watching all the news. And I was really, I don't know, extra moved by it in this episode, seeing like that those nurses are just working their asses off. And Sarah's character in particular needs to learn that like, no, no, we're a team. And you need to like check your arrogance at the door.

And this is really about like, we're gonna do this together. And you need the nurses to be on your side. Absolutely, absolutely with that. I agree with you a hundred percent. It's true. Nurses are the heart and soul of the hospital. Just to piggyback on what you said about Sarah though, a perfect example of someone who's not sincere about their apology is when they apologize to you and then it's followed with, but just to be clear, you know what I mean?

And she totally does that in this episode. And everything that happens to her after this is because of how she just consistently put her foot in her mouth throughout this episode. I don't remember if it carries on through this season, but through the career of the show, through the show, her character always had the worst luck. Yeah. Well, again, that comes from her life too. I mean, Sarah is a klutzy gal. She'll be the first to admit when she comes on our show. And Sarah would come in from the weekend every single time without fail, every single Monday morning and be like, you guys are not going to believe what happened to me this weekend. And she would go on to tell the craziest story that would be like a once in a two year period

to a normal person, something like this would happen to you, and it would happen to Sarah every weekend. And we'd be like, Sarah, you're putting us on. That can't have happened to you this weekend. And she'd be like, you're not going to believe it. And then on top of that, da-da-da-da-da-da, and then my keys fell, and then my wedding ring got lost, and da-da, da, da, da, da. I remember one story was like a car lost control and started barreling down a hill

and her fiance at the time. Had to jump in the car. Or grabbed a kid out of the way or something like that. I remember being like, oh shit. Then her wedding ring fell down a gutter. And every weekend it was like, here we go. And Sarah would have a half hour story, like, you guys. And she was always breathless. She'd be like, I'm not going to believe what... All right, Donald, at 254, one of the most important characters in Scrubs history

is introduced, a character very near and dear to our hearts named Rowdy. Yes, absolutely. I made that note also. Holy cow, Rowdy. That joke, when we were filming it, I was like, this is the oddest thing I've ever done in my life. This is a stuffed dog. And we're going to pretend like it's our pet. I think Bill, we'll have to ask him. Let's make a note to ask him when he comes on.

But I think that the idea was that some doctor had told them that they never had time to have a pet, especially when they were just starting out because their hours were so insane. And so he thought it would be funny if we got a taxidermied pet. I mean, that's the oddest thing I've ever heard of in my life. I know. Just, I mean, where did they find that thing? Exactly. Who in their right mind was like, you know what? I'm this buster. No, I think people do. I'm gonna stuff him. I do think it's a thing. I mean, I think I'm sure out there are fans. If you're listening, you can write in and tell us. But I do think there are people that taxidermy their pet. Okay. I don't understand. Joelle, have you ever heard of this? Joelle's

nodding. She has heard of this. Barbara Streisand, I believe his taxidermy and cloned her dogs. Well, she clones her dog because she loves it so much. So I think she's on like volume five. We have the technology to clone animals. Yeah, you can clone your dog. You didn't know that? I did not know that.

Yeah, you can clone your dog. It all started with Dolly the sheep. Remember they cloned the sheep, Dolly? I thought that was like only a couple of years ago. And I thought- That was many years ago. And then since now, if you're Barbra Streisand, I'm sure it's very expensive. You can clone your dog. So Rowdy was taxidermied. Now I tried to get Rowdy when the show was over. And listen, we did nine years. I said to Bill, the only thing I want from everything is Rowdy. I think it would be a wonderful souvenir for me to have. And he said, sure.

And then the people at Disney who owned the show said, no, you can't have Rowdy. He belongs to Disney. And I, I pictured like, you remember at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark, how they put the Ark of the Covenant way in the back. I pictured Rowdy going into like an endless infinite of, you know, a warehouse in the back. And like the forklift is going by like other taxidermy dogs and he's going like way, way, way in the back.

Right. The dog from Frasier is taxidermy to there. Exactly. And I was just so bummed. So when I made my film, which I was Here, that you were in, very, very funnily, as the Aston Martin dealer, I said to Disney, hey, for the Scrubs fans, I thought it'd be funny if I put Rowdy

like in the back of a scene, like an Easter egg for them to find. And I said, can I borrow the dog just to put, just a little Easter egg for everybody? They said, we will, but we're gonna send him with a bodyguard. Wow. Because we're worried that you're going to try and steal him once he's delivered. So

they sent Rowdy with a handler. They sent the taxidermy dog with a handler. I feel like that's understandable though, because I feel like if they didn't send the dog with the handler, somewhere along the way, the dog would have got lost. I wasn't going to steal the dog. I was going to be on my best behavior. Dude, listen. He didn't look good though, by the way. He looked, have got lost. I wasn't gonna steal the dog. I was gonna be on my best behavior. Listen, that dog. He didn't look good though, by the way. He did not look as care of. Right. He's not being taken care of at all.

Like one of his paws was all janky and I had to like glue it. 2025 is bound to be a fascinating year. It's going to be filled with money challenges and opportunities. I'm Joel. Ooh, and I am Matt. And we're the hosts of How to Money. We want to be with you every step of the way in your financial journey this year Offering the information and insights you need to thrive financially

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choosing our elected leaders. It's for the voters to decide. Follow The Big Take podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen. Do you remember the prop master who hid Rowdy? I don't know if this is Scrubb's urban legend or not, but go ahead, you tell it. Well, I just know that we had a prop master who didn't work out. Yes, he was let go. Right. And to get back at production, he decided that he was going to hide Rowdy.

In the ceiling. Is that where he hit it? Well, as the Scrubb's urban legend goes, he was let go and he was angry about being let go and then, you know, we were in the hospital that had all those, you know, lowered tiled ceilings that you see in hospitals and apparently he, he hid Rowdy up in the ceiling tiles above the prop room. That's when, by the way, that's when everyone started to be like, oh shit, if we lose Rowdy, this is bad, we need a backup.

And that's when they got Steven. Right, but they had like three or four different Rowdies though. So I'm saying- No, there was just two. There was Rowdy and there was Steven. Do you remember? Because there was a whole episode where- Where Judy, where Carl loses-

And then I feel their balls. And then I feel their balls and I then I feel their balls, and I'm like, nope, that's Steven. That's Steven. So in the world of scrubs, JD had memorized the two different dog, taxidermy dog's ball sacks. Nope, that's Steven. So let's talk about our apartment set, because this is the first time you're

seeing our apartment. This was built into the hospital. Normally you'd have a set like this on a soundstage, but in order for us to do the whole show at this abandoned hospital, Cabot McMullen, our genius production designer, found a way to build all of this into, I don't know what it was.

It was like the urgent care wing or something? No, this wasn't in the urgent care wing. This was actually in the basement of the hospital. Urgent care turned out to be- The bar. The bar and all of that stuff, right. But this was actually right by the children's ward in the hospital. So if you went-

They knocked out some walls. And so this was in, you know, this looks like pretty damn good apartment, but it was in the hospital. Yeah. It was also the loading area also. So when they would cut and at night when they wanted to bring things into the hospital, on the other side of the wall, there was this big garage door that you could open up and load all the equipment.

I remember it was always incredibly hot, right? Because there was no, it wasn't meant to be a soundstage with lights and everything. The whole hospital was on fire because you know, you couldn't run the air condition when we're running. Like we used to have the tubes. Remember we would have the tubes. Oh my God, they'd have a tube wrangler. Even in our dressing rooms, they gave us like halfway through season one, they gave us our own little air

conditioning units to keep us cool because the hospital got so hot in the summer. Right, and but I remember, so there was an air conditioning in the hospital and so they had these exterior units and they had these tubes. I'm sure you've seen them. They were like, I don't know, two feet in diameter. They'd be running everywhere to try and make this comfortable, but it was someone's full-time

job to try and wrangle the tubes. Yeah. So what I noticed about this episode, I kept waiting for one line that made it into the promo for the first episode, but wasn't in the first episode. And that's when Elliot says to me, Hey, when did you meet Morgan Freeman? I laughed out loud when that line came up. I mean, I knew it was coming. And you know, there's some jokes in this that even though you know them, I just laughed

out loud when I heard that. It's just that was so friggin funny. Yeah, I left my ass off. And you know, there's some jokes in this that even though you know them, I just laughed out loud when I heard that it's just, that was so friggin funny. Yeah. I, I laughed my ass off and you know, it's really funny. That's my mom. But that's not even the funny part. The funny part is she goes, she has lovely freckles. I love her freckles.

Okay. So the next thing I wrote down was Todd, the introduction of Rob Machio. And Rob kind of is this guy, right? I mean, not that he was like, I don't mean, and not that he was a womanizer like this, but he was kind of like a funny, jocky kind of guy. Right, absolutely.

He was very well, he was a pretty good athlete. You know what I mean? Took really good care of his body and stuff like that. I remember he told me he ate a pint of Ben & Jerry's every day, which I always found amazing because he would have to work out like that much extra to work off a pint of Ben & Jerry's a day. So he must've worked out a ton to have his Todd body.

And he was a lot older than us at the time too. I think he's 75 in this episode. Right. No, he does look good. I don't remember. I remember he wasn't like, like that old, but I remember he was older than us. He was a lot older. He was like in his, I'm going to say 30 something, we were 20 something and he

was like 35, 36 Rob's going to come on the podcast and I really enjoyed the fact that, you know, you do projects and sometimes they don't really put the effort in to develop these romantic relationships with the characters. And I really enjoyed the effort put into Carla and Turk's courtship and how it became a storyline in the show. And it wasn't just something that from the beginning they had chemistry and now they're dating. You know, Turk had to work for it. Carla had to work for it. And then and the ultimate thing was at the end they, you know, they're married with kids and stuff like that. I love that we see their

growth from the pilot to this episode and then as the show goes along. You guys were such a good yin yang for each other too. I mean, you're the sort of silly jockey surgeon and she's just like so smart and clever and kind of running the entire hospital. And I just thought the way that they wrote your flirtation and your chemistry was really, and you guys performed it really, really well.

Can I tell them the story about what Casey first said when I tried to set you up? Absolutely. We were in a nightclub, Donald and I, and I see Casey Cobb, the beautiful Casey Cobb, across the club, and she was with Jessica Simpson because she was, she is. Her assistant. She was her assistant, and now they're like best friends.

And I knew them just as acquaintances, and Donald had such a crutch on Casey He was just staring at her like just like doe-eyed like couldn't couldn't even think about other stuff wouldn't even wouldn't just like lost So finally I got the courage to go up to Casey and I'm like hey So trying to be the best wingman in the world. I'm like, hey, so I appreciate you a hundred percent for this I was like, hey my buddy really likes you. He really thinks you're really beautiful. She goes, who?

And I point over, like nod over to Donald, and she goes, didn't he have like nine kids? And I always thought that was so funny. Cut to them getting married in my backyard. Yeah, at the time I didn't have nine kids. I only had four. I had four. You had four, but it was a funny sassy line from her.

And your charms obviously worked because however many years later, they were married in my backyard. Yeah, thanks to you being a great wingman. It all started with a wingman line. I remember me being like, yeah, will you go over there and talk to her for me? And you being like, are you fucking kidding me? Go over yourself. I'm like, oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And you're like, yeah, will you go over there and talk to her for me? And you being like, are you fucking kidding me?

Go over yourself. I'm like, oh no, no, no, no, no, no. And you're like, oh. No, I think I got the courage. I got the courage. No, you did get the courage, but you went over there and then you came back and I'm like, well, what did she say? Did I tell you or did I lie to you?

You told me right away. It'd be funny if I lied to you. No, no, no. You told me right away. You're like, dude, she was like, doesn't he have like nine kids? And I remember being like, oh no. Because I was like, that's what the ladies in California think. That's what Hollywood thinks about me.

I'm the dude with all the kids. Oh no. Well, it's funny that she wasn't like, oh no, he's not cute or oh no, he's not funny or oh no, I don't think he's funny on TV and movies. She was just like, doesn't he have like nine kids with her son's accent? Anyway, this should be an inspiration to you men and women out there who think you can't possibly get that person you have a crush on. And they might even open with a line equivalent to doesn't he have like nine kids.

But if you just are persistent like Donald was, you could one day get married in my backyard. All right, should we move on? Oh, are we talking about Rob running line? Because I always thought that was funny. So Rob, as a testament to Rob Mascio, who played Todd, he would take it so seriously. And I'm not making fun of Rob because I get it. He didn't have a lot to do in every episode

and he would always make sure he was doing the best he could. But sometimes we'd look over and he would just be running his one line over and over and over again. Air five. Air five. Yeah. Air five.

Yeah. We just see him in the corner. Air five. I'd be like Donald. Air five. Rob's over there running line. Air five. High five.

Air five. Air five. Air five. And they really did hurt those friggin' Rob high fives for what it's worth. I was about to say, it seemed like you got used to it after a while. No, they really hurt. And the whapish noise was added,

but man, they really hurt. Sarah digging the grave at around eight minutes and 46 seconds, that's become like a popular meme. I always see like, you know, when fans send us gifts and memes and I see them on the internet and on the interwebs, that's one I always see is, it's funny watching it when you go, oh, that's that meme I've seen before.

But that Sarah digging is one people use when like they're putting their foot in their mouth, dig in the grave. I forgot, I totally forgot about that. And so when I saw it, it was really refreshing and really- It was funny, huh? Yeah, it was very funny. And then they throw dirt on her too, at her rose.

That's a great joke. The next thing I wrote down was, oh, the would you like to play a game thing with the robot voice? Do you remember what movie that's from? Of course. War Games. Yes.

One of my favorite movies. And then the other one was from Buck Rogers. BD, BD, BD, BD. Hey, Buck. I didn't know that one. BD, BD, BD, BD. That's Buck Rogers. But War Games would you, how about a thermonuclear war?

Remember that movie? How about, yeah, it was Matthew Broderick and Ali Shady. Of course I remember that movie. You're listening to this podcast and you haven't seen War Games. I need you to put it on after this podcast is over, because it is such a good movie. Yeah, I mean, you don't have to put it on after the podcast.

No, I think, yeah, well not during. Right. I remember being a kid and thinking, well everything Matthew Broderick did when I was a kid, I just thought was incredible. I just wanted to be Matthew Broderick. Especially in War Games. In War Games and in Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

Yes, of course. I mean... He's kind of the same character. Well, kind of. In War Games, he was like a kid that didn't have a lot of friends. In Ferris Bueller, he was the king of the school. He's such a good actor, though, in War Games, you know? By the way, a little trivia.

They made a sequel to War Games that the writer director had nothing to do with. What was it called? I don't know. Joelle will insert that here later in her voice. War Games, The Dead Code, which came out in 2008, directed by Stuart Gillard. Yeah, but neither the two stars, Ali Shidi or Matthew Broderick, were in it, right? No. All right, well, that one's not, the sequel is not Zack and Donald approved, but the first movie is. Oh, I just, 1133, I just wanted to point out,

that's the very first time we saw the lounge, our doctor's lounge, where so many, much of the show ends up taking place, and the introduction of Doug. I didn't realize Doug got introduced so early. Neither did I. I didn't realize that either. I also remember that Pac-Man machine and how when we were working, that was an actual real

working Pac-Man game. And I would get kicked off a set. I remember Franklin Gottbetter and Scott Harris kicking me up. These were the first ADs on Scrubs. Assistant directors, yeah. I remember them kicking me off set because I kept trying to get the high score on Pac-Man. I remember that Pac-Man game, and I remember when they finally made it

so the Pac-Man game didn't work and I was so pissed off. At a certain point, they made it so it wouldn't function even if you plugged it in. They got wise. I loved that. I thought that was the coolest set piece ever. And I was happy to see Doug because he's very funny, and I remember in the Wizard of Ob episode,

which I directed, one of the funniest lines he ever said, which was, Dead people should be dead. Do you remember when I come back to life? I do remember. Why are you hitting me? I thought you were dead. Why are you hitting me? Because dead people should be dead. I would have done the same thing. Okay. I thought at 1350, there's a cool moment where, just stylistically, Adam Bernstein, again,

just sort of setting up the style of the show where everyone's looking into the lens talking to me. And then it comes to Judy and she does it and then she looks down and the camera pulls back and I'm next to her. And then she looks at you. I guess stylistically, that was really kind of a cool thing. That was pretty cool. Adam sort of set the bar early on as the director of episode one and two, that the camera was gonna be a character on the show.

And every director that came on after would add their own little bit of style to it, especially in this first season, figuring out innovative ways to move the camera and to do kind of camera shots and trick shots. Adam really, he did us a great service, him and Bill, by giving us something. In hospital shows, it's really about the doctors and the nurses and everything like that.

Adam and Bill found a way to make the hospital a character in the show. And they found a way to do that early on. You know what I mean? So when you're there, it's never the same. It doesn't feel like, you know, I'm watching a hospital procedural or I'm watching, it's something wacky about it. There's something different about it. And I think that really helped with telling the story,

you know, of JD and his group of friends in this hospital. Yeah, and Adam, I think Adam really set the tone for that. And I remember him, and of course the next few that come up, you know, all the directors in this first batch, I think Mark Buckland's another one coming up that really helps set the style and the look. Some things were phased out, as I said, the whip noises, like when you go, when you're moving your hands, yeah.

So there was a lot of sound effects obviously, but that whip thing is like one thing they toned down. This high school fantasy that starts at 15 minutes or so is so funny, so well done, don't you think? Hilarious, dude. The fact that they put the pimples on her and the braces and her and Ben stuff. And then all of us being like the cool kids

and stuff like that. Yeah. You know, Aloma is, I guess, really the only nurse from the pilot that made it all the way through, because there's people that surrounded Judy where I'm like, I don't recognize any of these people. I recognize a few, I recognize a couple of the women. By the way, none of the people who became

like major background people that we focused on are in any of these episodes. It'd be interesting as we go to watch, it'll be interesting to see when we see their first appearances. Like, yeah, I saw one dude who was this bald guy, and he kind of looks like Colonel Doctor, but he's a bald-headed guy.

And he shows up in so many scenes, like back to back to back to back to back. Yeah. Let's talk about how in Cox's apartment. That looks like a set, dude. No, it's so bad. First of all, not to dis Cabot, because I'm sure that at this time, they were already out of money.

But this is the only set so far that looks like time they were already out of money. But this is the only set so far that looks like they just put a couch into a hospital room. Like there's so many things on the walls that are like, why is there a speaker on the side of his wall at his house? Not only that, why is that big window there that goes nowhere? I know it's so funny. And then we justify it by making a joke about like, oh, your apartment is so cold. But I was like, wow, man, I think this is a, there was the first moment like, where does he live?

Does he live in the hospital? Crazy. Yeah. I love this scene between me and Johnny. And this is one of the funniest lines of Scrubs. I remember, do you want to be the big spoon or the little spoon? I had no idea what spooning was. I knew that you could spoon like, I know what spooning was, but I didn't know that you could be,

there was a big spoon and a little spoon. I had no idea that that existed. And that kind of was like, ooh, a little spoon. That whole scene is hilarious. You know what I mean? Even when he kicks you out and he gives you the lesson and he's like, now come here, let me give you a hug. And you're like, get the fuck out of here.

And he's like, come on, come on, come on, give me a hug. And you're like, uh, uh. And he's like, come on, give me a hug. And you go for the hug. He's like, ah come here, let me give you a hug. And you're like, get the fuck out of here. He's like, come on, come on, come on, give me a hug. And you're like, uh, uh. And he's like, come on, give me a hug. And you go up for the hug, he's like, ah, get out of here. Very funny, very funny. He's so good. And I really just.

So good. I really just liked that scene between the two of us. It really kind of showed the dance with Johnny C where it was gonna be like, you know, fucking with me a ton and really, but then eventually there'd always be a lesson underneath it and he'd always drop in and be a good mentor. I mean, that's when this is called my mentor.

So he's doesn't want to be a mentor, doesn't want to be a mentor. And in the end, he finally drops some knowledge. Like you can't save these people. All you can do is do your best. You're not responsible for changing people's habits. You can't make someone who's going to smoke, not smoke. And I know that this is something that doctors must deal with all the time. They wish they could make their patients

stop eating that fast food. They wish they could make their patients stop smoking, whatever it is. Johnny's trying to teach JD early on, like you don't have control over that. You can only do what you can do. I had made a note on that also. When doctors come into the hospital

for the first few months, maybe even more than that, they take everything so personal. And that's great to have that type of attitude. But if you continue that type of attitude, it's going to be really hard for you to make it as a doctor. You know what I mean? And that's what JD had to experience. JD cared so much about Will and Will quitting his cigarette addiction.

And he thought that that was a bonding experience between him and Dr. Cox. You know, dude, I know you're thinking about it. And let's talk it over so we can come back in tomorrow with a game plan and stop this dude from smoking cigarettes. And at the end of the day, that wasn't your job. Your job is to test and treat. You know what I mean? That was JD's job. Let's test him and see what ailments he has. And any ailment we find, we're going to treat and try and save him from. All of this extracurricular activity of you giving a crap about, you know, how he got here, that's not in the cards because at the end of the day, if this person does pass away, how do you develop the strength to get up again?

If you were so, so invested in this person's wellbeing. And as much as that sucks to hear, that's how doctors have to be. That's how nurses have to be. They're gonna deal with death, they're gonna deal with life, they're gonna deal with disease, they're gonna deal with all of these things.

And how do you put up a shield so at the end of the day, if you do lose somebody, you can come back the next day and do your job. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, well said. And that was what Cox was trying to prepare JD for. Yeah, early on, early on in the show, because he's like, you need to get used to this.

You're not going to be able to save every single person and change all their habits. By the way, I'm looking at the credits and I see that John Doocy, who was the guest star as Will, his character's name, Will Forte. And was there some connection to Will Forte? Did someone, wasn't there someone, one of our writers was partnered with Will Forte? I do believe you're right. I think it was Schwartz.

Was it Schwartz? I think it was Schwartz, yeah. Speaking of Mike Schwartz, Zach, the show that I shot all last year, Emergence, which is on ABC, which is another Disney show, the creators of that show wrote on Ed back in the day with a young Mike Schwartz. Oh really?

That must be where Bill found him. Maybe. Oh yeah, Ed came first because I remember when the show Ed was on and Tom Kavanaugh's picture went up on billboards and I still didn't have a job. My mom would call me and be like, there is a show where this guy looks exactly like you and he's on billboards everywhere. And I remember thinking like, great. Yeah. That's not me, mom.

It's kind of crazy how he came on to be a brother later on. I know. I know. I wish you would have had two brothers. I wish they would have had, I wish you would have had two brothers. I wish it would have been him and then Dax Shepard as your other brother. I know, I get this thing. I don't know what it is about my face,

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and I left and the guy goes, oh, you know who that was, right? Do you remember the story? Unfortunately, I remember the story, but I forgot the punch line. So you're going to have to tell it. So we're in Vegas and we're hanging out. It's us, Josh Raden, our buddy, Carrie brothers, and Michael Weston, who also at some point was on the show.

Yeah. It came on the show as private dancer. Right. Right. Uh, but Carrie and Josh both had music on the show, if I remember correctly, right? Yes. Right. So we're all in Vegas.

We go to Vegas. It's our first time going to Vegas to as a group and we're, you know, we're very young and we've, we've got a little bit of money at this point to spend in Vegas. We had a really good time. We stayed at the MGM Grand. They hooked it up for us. The story, as I remember correctly, is I was in the bathroom, Donald was in the bathroom,

and Donald washed his hands and then he left. And the person that was in there said to his friend, you know who that was? And in my mind, I'm thinking like, oh, Donald getting recognized. And the guy goes, who? And he goes, that was Urkel. That was fucking Urkel, dude.

And they were like freaking out that Urkel had been in the bathroom with them. I love that. What about that? To this day, you know, to this day, anytime I could be mentioned in the same story as Jaleel White, Taye Diggs, all these people who are like, you know, iconic for being really good at playing a character,

or you know, Jaleel went on to do Stefan Urkel, which was really freaking awesome. And it showed his range as an actor and everything like that. Anytime I could be mentioned in the same story, like one time Questlove hit me up, it was like, yo, somebody said, I look like you. And I was like, that's the best day ever, dude. I remember when we first became friends

and we'd go out and about, no one knew who I was at all. But some people would know Donald's name, but a lot of you would just be like yo yo clueless clueless they would just yell clueless at you right yeah all the time yo clueless clueless yo clueless and then they'd point to you and be like yo clueless bought his friend yo clueless bought his friend look at clueless's friend that's clueless and clueless's friend. That story has a horrible ending though, man. It has a horrible... Well, the ending is, you did Garden State and all of a sudden you became Zach Braff

and people were like, oh shit, Zach Braff. And look who he's hanging out with. He's got Clueless with him. That's not what happened. That is what happened. That's funny. I just remember, it's funny the things that people yell at you on the street, like you don't get clueless anymore, I'm sure. But I...

No, but I get a lot of black scrubs. Thanks to Family Guy, I get a lot of black scrubs and it's scrubs and... Yeah, I get, where's Turk all the time. Sometimes people will know my name and they just talk to me right away and I can't figure out if I know them in real life or they just know me as an actor. And especially when I'm in New York, because I live there part of the year and people just walking on the street just start talking to you. And I don't want to be rude at all,

but I'm just trying to think, like, do I know this person or do they just know my name? One time I was parallel parking in Manhattan and it was going horribly. And some guy walks by, he's like, you're killing it, brah. And I just couldn't remember. I was like, I don't think I know that person. They're just giving me shit. That happened to me recently at Starbucks before this whole quarantine thing happened. I was at Starbucks and a guy comes up to me, he goes, Donald, how you been, man?

I'm like, hey, man, how's it going? He's like, you know, I'm good. And then I realized, oh, I don't know this guy was like, wait, how do how do we know each other? And he says, Oh, dude, I'm just such a huge fan of yours. And I remember thinking, holy cow, that's how you get caught out there, dude. From here on out, if somebody says to me, Donald, how's it going? And I don't know who they are, I'm not going to be embarrassed anymore. Because there's that moment of embarrassment where you're like, wait, I should know you. Last thing you want to do is like, yeah, hurt anybody's feelings.

Hurt anybody's feelings. Oh, I thought of another person that I used to really get a lot before was Anne Hathaway's boyfriend that went to jail. Do you remember that guy? I don't. He was involved in some, I think it was business or money crime, something.

But he went to jail and I think it was business or money crime, something, but he went to jail and I walk in, this is years ago, I walk into a coffee bean and I walk in and I see Arsenio Hall and he's looking right at me. And I don't think, I don't remember, I've never met Arsenio Hall, but I was kind of geeked out because I loved Arsenio Hall. And he kind of smiled at me, he brought me over to the end of the counter where they deliver the coffees and there, you can hear the music. Ah, is Eddie Murphy standing there. And I'm like having one of the greatest moments of my life.

And now when I meet famous people, I can normally hold it together. Yeah, I'm gonna keep it one. I remember saying to you one time, dude, how do you do this, man? Like that's fricking Benjamin Bratt right there. And you're not even geeking out really. You're just like, it's not even a,

and you were like, I don't geek out. Well I can hold it together sometimes, but when I met Eddie Murphy, I mean, I just started gushing. I was like, Eddie, I'm so sorry, but I just want to say that you were such an inspiration to me and Beverly Hills Cop, I got to tell you, I use it as an example all the time because the bad guys were legitimately scary, but he goes, he goes, who? The bad guys weren't scary, who? Victor Maitland?

And I was like, oh my God, Eddie Murphy just said Victor Maitland to me in a coffee shop. My life has peaked right now. He's like, Victor Maitland? And I'm like, no, not Victor Maitland. Well, I was like, the henchman. He goes, yeah, well, the henchman was scary. And then he interrupts me and he goes, stares at me,

and he goes, anybody ever tell you look like Anne Hathaway's boyfriend that went to jail? And I said, what? He goes, yeah, because I was watching the news and I was like, that looks like the dude from Scrubs. And I thought this is the most surreal moment of my entire life. Eddie Murphy is telling, recognizing, A, he knows who I am,

because he knows what Scrubs is, and B, he's trying to figure out if I've been told before that I look like Anne Hathaway's boyfriend. That is hilarious. By the way, the last part of that story, I gotta tell you, because it's so funny. I go to the Les Mis Robb premiere, the movie premiere,

and because I love Les Mis Robb, as you know, and- Drink with me, today's gone by. All right, so by the way, we'll do a special episode of this podcast where we just sing Lamest. Sing Showtunes. Sing Showtunes. Anyway, I'm walking and I know Anne Hathaway as an acquaintance and this was right around

when all that shit went down with her boyfriend and I'm walking towards her to say congratulations and her father stands up and gives me this look, like, I'm gonna kill this motherfucker. He's got the balls to crash my daughter's premiere, I'm gonna strangle him. And I got within 10 feet of the dude, and then his face just fucking broke,

and he went, like, sighed of breath relief and realized that it was me, not the ex-boyfriend. Oh, man, now you know what black people go through all the time. All right, I think we have a caller, right, Joelle? We do. Welcome, Kayla. Thanks for being here.

What's up, Kayla? Hi, Kayla. Hello. Hi. up, Kayla? Hi, Kayla. Hello. Hi. How are you? I'm good. They're crazy, but good. I hear you.

We hear you. It's crazy times. Thank you so much for being our second ever caller. We're very, very excited to have you. We can answer any question you have about anything. Well, almost any question, but go ahead. Mostly Scrubs related. That's about it.

That's fair. OK, I guess like my first question would be a lot of shows that premiered at that time had that awkward first season. But for whatever reason, for me as a viewer, Scrubs didn't have that. Was that something that you guys all felt as a cast? Speaking from, I was just happy to be on television. When I look back at it now, absolutely, you're absolutely right. Scrubs started off at a high point and it just kept going up from there as far as storytelling goes.

And that's really, you know, you gotta give props to Bill Lawrence and his team of writers, also, you know, the crew and you know, how they were in line and just ready to go once we started. With so many shows, I agree, Kayla. You can't help but go, especially with pilots, I'm always saying to friends and when you recommend a show, you're like, give it like three episodes because the pilot's good and

everything, but the pilots are so hard. You have to introduce so much, so many characters and the tone and the style and the, it's so hard to do a pilot and have it work. So I guess you guys have said this to people too, you're always like, just give me a couple episodes. Whereas I agree, Bill did such an amazing job with the pilot and the first few episodes

that he was able to, in 23 minutes an episode, be able to just launch it. I'm just looking at my screen, this one was like 21 minutes or so. It's just amazing how much got crammed in and beautifully woven together. You know, being on the show, I hate to brag about the show, but I think that's what made the show so great. You know what I mean? It's like, you know, you didn't have to say give it two or three episodes. By the third episode though, we were really on fire. You know,

we were really telling great stories, but we were telling great stories before that. It just, you know, it just elevated even higher after episode three, because we found our groove. I love that, because I remember my mom asked me a couple weeks ago, she was like, I need to start something. And I said, you should start scrubbed from the beginning, because I know you came in at this in pieces.

She's like, so you don't have an episode for me to start on? I said, no, you start from episode one. I love that. That's so awesome. That's great, Kayla. Do you have another question just because we're all in isolation and have nothing to do but to talk to you?

Sure. So I guess what's so great, which is funny you say episode three. Episode two is probably my favorite because so many of the show's major relationships are established in that episode. So was that chemistry instantaneous, or did that come from filming episodes

over the coming week? You know what's crazy is that that's how we opened the show today, pretty much. We talked about how episode two, it really sets off the journey that a lot of these characters are gonna have together. Carla and Turk, Carla and Elliot, everybody in the hospital and Dr. Kelso, JD and Cox. All of these stories are really starting to bubble at this point, you know what I mean?

Or starting to, you know, gurgle. Yeah, gurgle, whatever it is. Sure. I don't know if we should use gurgle. No, like, you know when like a boiling water starts to come to a gurgle? whatever it is. Sure. I don't know if we should use gurgle. No, like, you know when like a boiling water starts to come to a gurgle, isn't that the word? No, it's not.

That's not what gurgle means. You're thinking of gargle. Not gargle and gurgle are different. I just like saying gurgle. Another big thing was that we all genuinely got along. Like, you know, a lot of shows, you're meeting all these new people, just like any job. There's going to be people you don't like.

There's going to be people that you do like. We all really clicked. Like, you know, and I'm sure Donald and I have both been on projects since then where the magic wasn't there. This was a project where, like, all those people, we were, and the writers, and Bill, and the directors, the crew, we were all friends and we were all hanging out. We would all go out together. We just really genuinely loved each other

and a testament to the seven main characters in the show. We all, you know, over nine years, we had our moments. Of course, just like a family, you'd get in arguments over things, but for 99% of the time, we all got along really, really, really well. And I think that that shows in the relationships and in the show, because we loved each other.

We rooted for each other. If Donald had a moment where he was killing it, like we weren't trying to upstage each other. We were like, go man, go beef. You're killing it right now. Like we were rooting each other on, you know? Yeah, we definitely were each other's biggest fans at the time for sure.

Well, thank you, Caleb. Thank you for calling in and thank you for being our second ever caller. Yay, thank you guys so much for having me. Thank you. Stay safe out there. Where are you calling from? Are you in California or are you in Atlanta? I'm in Atlanta. Yeah. Okay. We're on lockdown. Yeah, so are we. Well, stay safe, Kayla. Stay healthy. Yeah. Thank you. You guys as well. And I want to say, if you want to call in to our podcast here, you're going to send

an email to scrubsihart at gmail.com. Is that right, Joelle? Okay. Scrubsihart at gmail.com. And we're going to take a caller every week. I just want to thank everybody for listening. Please hit us up on our social media. We're both on Instagram and Twitter,

and you can ask us questions. Tell us what you like, what you want more of. We want you to have audience participation. So tell us things that you want to, constructive criticism, right Donald? Yeah, you don't necessarily have to criticize us. Well, constructive criticism. You could be like, I'd like to hear more about this or I'd like to hear more about that,

but don't all of a sudden get on there and be like just hating. Well, people are going to do that anyway, Donald. It's the interwebs. Nobody likes a hater. I'm just going to keep it real with y'all. What did you say? Oh, hater-ade. Don't drink hater-ade.

That's what you used to say. Would a Taylor Swift say, because the haters going to hate, hate, hate. Don't be that. You know what I like the Taylor Swift lyric? And I'm just like, damn, it's seven a.m. When she's talking about getting trolled early in the morning. I like, got a long list of ex lovers. That's my favorite Taylor Swift line.

That's ain't a nine minute friend. That might be my favorite. Not that that has anything to do with this show, but that might be my favorite song. All right, listen, you know what my favorite song is Donald? That she sings, that she sings. You know what my favorite song is, Donald? And I think we should go into it right now. It's our theme song that we should say we want to thank you to Charlie Puth who wrote the music and Donald and I wrote the lyrics. And I think now is a better time than

ever to start singing it. So thank you for listening. Thank you to all the medical person out there, out there who are on the front lines. Thank you so much. And we're watching you and we see you and we celebrate you and this was a show that was always trying and aspired to be a love letter to medical workers. And now more than ever, we want to say thank you so much for being the heroes of today. Thank you so much. And now let's sing Donald. Here's some stories about a show we made, about a bunch of dogs and nurses and a janitor

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