Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - Real Friends Classic -104: My Old Lady with Sarah Chalke

Episode Date: January 30, 2025

In episode 104, Turk, JD, and Elliot try to save their dying patient. Hospital statistics predict at least one will die. In the real world, Zach and Donald are joined by Sarah Chalke, as she shares her early experience with the show, watching her baby sister grow into a real doctor, and explains her harrowing trips to the grocery store.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm so happy with all of the press that we're getting and all of the people that are listening to us and stuff. Yes, thank you for listening. The fans are tuning in. This is really amazing, dude. We certainly weren't expecting it to be. We just did press to Australia. We certainly weren't expecting this kind of reaction. Not at all.

And I did some press for Emergence today, and they wanted to talk about the podcast. And it was overseas, though. It was like in the UK and stuff. I guess we're playing in the UK. Is this true? All over the globe. You can listen to this in Stad. it was like in the UK and stuff. Yes, we're a hit. Are we playing in the UK? Is this true? All over the globe. You can listen to this in Stad. You can listen in... Can you really listen to it in Stad though?

Yes. If you have a computer, you can listen to us. As long as you have iHeart, wherever you get your podcasts, you can hear us. Our plug is iHeart. So big shout out to iHeart. Hello iHeart. We don't have a sponsor yet, really, yet. We will, I guess. But I just want to say that Red Bull, if you want to sponsor us, you should, because I just drank a full one and I am so hyped up right now. I am so thrilled about our guest.

So am I. I'm very excited about who we have on the show today. But first we should sing, Donald. Let's get into it. Five, six, seven, eight. Here are the scrubs we watch, oh, it's Zach and Donald. All right. Now you might know her as America's favorite Canadian. You might know her as Second Becky.

You might know her as the beautiful blonde that starred on the show Scrubs for many years. Go ahead, Donald. You do the intro. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, cats, dogs, whatever you may be, please welcome to the show, the one and only... Sarah Chalk! Hi!

Sarah, don't worry, we'll add thunderous applause. It'll sound like you walked into a stadium. Yeah, Dan, can you add thunderous applause later? Thank you. All right, here's Sarah Chalk. Hi, Sarah. I didn't know whether to talk, because I didn't add the thunderous applause later? Thunderous. Thank you. All right, here's Sarah Chalk. Hi, Sarah. I didn't know whether to talk because I didn't hear the thunderous applause. I thought maybe I was just getting a glitch in these fancy headphones. Can I see you guys?

Right now I'm staring at the GarageBand screen. Can I make it small so I can see you guys? All you got to do is click back on Zoom. So Dan, can I hit the yellow button and make GarageBand small? I'm just going to put it out there. You ruined our introduction. I'm just going to put it up there. No, no, no, can I hit the yellow button and make GarageBand small? I'm just gonna put it out there, you ruined our introduction. I'm just gonna put it out there. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I don't wanna edit it out, Dan, listen.

No, you guys. Listen, now that Sarah's ruined the magic, I want the fans to know that we've been on Zoom for a half hour while Sarah was getting technical support from our editor. Sarah literally had a, Sarah had a fucking technical intervention with our editor. She was like, how do you start your laptop? And yet I've still felt, I've never felt more proud than I do in this moment

because I, okay, I just want to successfully, Jean-Michel is going to edit this out, just give me one second. I'm going to hit the yellow button in the corner, Dan and minimize garage band so I can see Zach and Donald. Do it. Just do it, go for it, Sarah. Just do it. Go for it. You don't even have to ask for me to do it.

I'm worried that Sarah's gonna call Dan for other technical help in her life. She's gonna be like, hey, Dan, I can't get Wi-Fi signal. Dan. I have Dan's email. That weird throaty cough laugh you just heard is a Sarah Chalk special.

How are you, Sarah? I'm good, guys, I miss you. I miss you just heard is the Sarah Chalk special. It's- How are you, Sarah? I'm good, guys. I miss you. I miss you. And now seeing you on this Zoom is making me miss you more. Nostalgic. How are you right now? Where are you quarantining in Canada, I imagine?

So I'm quarantining, I'm quarantining Canada. My sister and I have decided to quarantine our families together. So we have communally six children, three dogs and a cat. Wow. Wow. How are you doing school? How's school going?

School is interesting. School is basically, we have children between the ages of three and 16. So we'd only have so many screens and so much bandwidth to attend different online classes. So we've been kind of doing some of that and then some group classes. My sister is a lawyer, so she's teaching law. So we've been kind of doing some of that and then some group classes. My sister is a lawyer, so she's teaching law.

So like really like things like, you know, lessons on the rights of the child, the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, next week's the constitution. And I do equally important things like give them cartoon sides and they audition for cartoons. That's amazing.

Maybe you could first, you could give them a scene from Rick and Morty and you guys could all play parts. We have actually, we've done some cartoons. We haven't reached Rick and Morty yet because that's not appropriate for the four-year-olds. And as it's sort of tight quarters, we haven't gotten there yet, but yeah, it's pretty nuts.

I mean, we're all quarantined together. I'm the designated grocery shopper probably because of all my OCD tendencies. So I feel like, um, that's the most harrowing experience in, uh, in my life right now, which is, uh, you know, I go to the grocery store, I have my own, you know, version of PPE, which is like rating the drama eight props bin. So I have like a tuque and sunglasses, and I, you know, just put my hoodie up and gloves on. A tuque for you non-Canadians is a hat. It's a hat, yes.

I was about to say, what the fuck is a tuque? Sarah, if you could- It's like a beanie. Sarah, if you wouldn't mind translating your Canadianisms as we go through the podcast today, because there are some non Canadians listening listening Yes, the main the main ones really are to garberator Parkade and seawall what's a garberator? What's a garberator? Oh the garbage disposal the garbage disposal got it

Yeah Which happened to be the first thing that broke when I went when I came to Los Angeles and the landlord did not understand me And a part of you like my car Is a parkade a parking structure? Yeah, your Canadian's doing very well. You've been studying. I'm just guessing. I'm playing a game called Guess the Canadian Expression. So two gargoyle, parkade, seawall.

What's a seawall? The obvious? A seawall? A boardwalk. Oh, a boardwalk. Oh, a boardwalk, nice. And then you have that thing with the gravy and fries. What's that called?

La poutine. Yeah, la poutine, okay. Poutine. I know about poutine. That's French, isn't it? Yeah, it's the gravy and the cheese curds on top of the fries. It's just gravy and cheese on fries,

but they take great pride in it in Canada. How's your guys quarantine going? Oh, it's amazing. Is that sarcasm? How much time do you spend in that closet, Donald? Listen, I'm going to be honest with you. Donald hides out in that closet, Sarah, every day. Donald tells his family that he's recording the podcast.

Donald's family thinks he records the podcast every day and he's in the closet. But meanwhile, we do it twice a week. My wife keeps asking like, yo, when is the next episode coming out? Do you record so many of them? You're banking them. Of course.

It's coming soon. Casey thinks that Donald records like four podcasts a day in there. Well, I definitely do a lot of press. I'll be like, oh, I'm doing so much press right now. You should set up your PlayStation in there, Donald. I just don't know how I get the TV in here. That's the problem. Dan knows.

Dan knows. He knows. Dan could hook it up. Dan will do it. Dan, really quickly, it says Zoom would like to record this computer screen. Grant access to this application in security and privacy preferences.

No, Sarah. Denied. No, no, no, no, no. You don't want to record this. Sarah, Dan is ours. Sarah. He's not there for your technical needs. Okay, so let's get into it. Let's get into it.

Wait, before we get into the episode, Sarah, Donald and I have done this a few episodes now, and now that we have you, we wanted to ask you, tell us about your casting process, because as I remember, you were coming off of Rosam, you were doing that particularly unique thing where you had replaced the Becky. That was years before, wasn't it? Yeah, I was like 17, 18, 19, 20 when that happened. So four years before. And by the way, I was thinking as I was preparing for this, because Sarah, I do a lot of research.

I get really into this now. By the way, I found for you Scrubs fans out there and for us, I found a website called Scrubs Wiki, W-I-K-I, where it has everything you ever want to know about Scrubs. I'm like, whoever made that, thank you. Well, it doesn't have everything. It doesn't have us. No, it doesn't have us, but it has a lot

of insightful information. And- I feel like they should not go to Wiki, Scrubs Wiki. Yeah, but it has like, it literally has like, these are the fantasies in the episode, these are the girls named JD was called, these are, it's like all break broken down. Someone put a lot of work into it,

Donald, give them a shout out. Shout out to you for putting all that work in, but we got it from here. Oh my God, Donald's jealous. All right, listen, Donald, as you guys, before I was thinking about Sarah and I was thinking, is there another example other than Rose, where they just replaced the actress and had them play the same character?

And I was thinking about fresh- Darren, on Bewitched. Bewitched, was he just a different Darren? Yeah, I think they just flipped him out. Flipped him out. Tell just briefly about that, because I find it's a very unique thing, and you've told me and Donald,

and I just wanted, if you could just talk about what that was like really quickly, because I think it's a very unique thing. And you've told me and Donald, and I just wanted, if you could just talk about what that was like really quickly, because I think it's so interesting. Yeah, I mean, I was 16 when I auditioned, and it was Glenn Quinn, the guy who played my husband, Mark, the audition was with him, and he just made out with seven girls. We were all dressed exactly the same

in matching pink shirts, and the whole scene was this like make-out scene where he's like, baby, baby, come here, and I'm like, get a job at the gas station, get a job at theout scene where he's like, baby, baby, come here. And I'm like, get a job at the gas station, get a job at the gas station. He's like, baby, baby, come here. And it was literally like every other actress that was auditioning was like 22, living in Los Angeles. I flew in, they flew me in for the night to go and read.

And I just remember, I was 16, he was 24 and just thinking he is so handsome, how am I gonna remember one line? And they said, we'll let you know in a couple of days. And then they called back and they're like, okay, come back tomorrow and read with Roseanne. Then I did. And then Tom Arnold called me at home a few days later.

And he was trying to feel out whether I was going to leave the show to go to college because I was younger then and still, you know, at an age where I would do that. And Sarah Gilbert at the time had left to go to Yale, because I was younger then, and still at an age where I would do that, and Sarah Gilbert at the time had left to go to Yale, and she was flying back to do episodes, and Lisey had left to go to Vassar, and so I knew right away that that's what he was,

I could tell that's what he was getting at, so I was like, no, call it. So he was probably not allowed to do that, right? So he was sort of tiptoeing around. Right, like Rosanne was like, I can't call, baby, why don't you call? Why don't you call? That's pretty much what happened. Probably yes.

So then I said, I was like, no, no, call is gross. Absolutely not. And I knew I would go to college, but it was a, the Roseanne show was a big opportunity for me and I knew that I wouldn't- College, gross. You knew you weren't going to lose the job over it, so you were like, college, ew. College, vomit. And I just did it on the side.

And so I got the job. But the craziest part of the story that I actually hadn't remembered and we were talking about recently was they called me and told me I had the job and I went to a party that night. So I'm going to this like little high school in Canada and I get this phone call that I was going to replace Becky and I told a couple of people

and it spread around our high school pretty fast. It sounded like a lie. I mean, it doesn't like I'm going to replace Becky on the Roseanne show. The Roseanne show was the number one show at pretty fast. It sounded like a lie. I mean, it doesn't, like, I'm going to replace Becky on the Roseanne show. The Roseanne show was the number one show at the time. It sounded fake. And then I get a call the following week and it was the Roseanne show saying,

we're getting cold feet about recasting Becky. So we don't know if we're going to do it. So we're going to hold you for four months. We're going to give you 10 grand to hold you. So first of all, I'd never heard of money like $10,000. I thought to do nothing, like just to sit here for four months while you make a decision. And then the other half of me thought like,

my ass is grass at high school. Like they're gonna tell me in four months if we're actually gonna do this. So I had to kind of wait for the whole- You should have brought that money, Sarah. You should have brought that money to school and just like fanned it out. They got me on hold, y'all.

I wasn't lying. For those of you who don't know, this is called a holding deal. This is a holding thing. They holding me. Excuse me while I fan my face with my holding deal. Totally. And then I know by the time you convert it to Canadian dollars, it was obviously a whole different situation. So so yeah, so it was a crazy, it was a crazy experience. I was a baby and I had no idea what I was doing. And I just watched like, Rosanne and Laurie Metcalf and Sandra Bernhardt and Sarah Gilbert

and John Goodman and Johnny Galecki and this like ridiculous list of comedians and was kind of in awe and a little bit terrified. And then after two seasons, they gave everybody hugs by like, I'll see you guys after hiatus, which is the break that you take between seasons for anyone listening to that weird term. And then I get a phone call saying, Lisa's coming back to play Becky. And apparently I said, "'I want to talk to Roseanne for closure.' I don't remember doing that,

but apparently that's what I said. And so I did. And then they called me like six episodes into the following season and said, "'Come back this week. Darlene's getting married in an episode. And can you come down and be Becky?' And I was like, it went, and they said tomorrow.

So, Lisey had just changed her mind and she left? They didn't tell me, they just said, can you come back tomorrow? And I said, well, I'm going to college up here now. And I'm doing this movie of the week where John Ritter, interestingly enough, who played, obviously, your dad on Scrubs, I was doing a TV movie with him up here.

And I said, so I can come on Friday night for tape night. So it was the craziest day. I remember I wrote an oceanography exam at like 630 in the morning, went straight into the scene with his pregnancy belly. I just remember ripping the pregnancy belly off on the way to the airport and got to LA and they had a car waiting for me with hair and makeup in the car. Oh my God. I did my hair and makeup on the way to the live taping and the taping had already started and I hadn't seen anyone since I'd been fired and they were like, hold these flowers,

say this, stand here, do this. It got to the point where Roseanne would take questions from the audience and somebody said, why do you keep switching Beckys back and forth? And she was like, well, it's going to be chalky from now on. And that's how I found out I had the job back for the last year and a half of the show. Wow. That's insane. Wow.

I really think, Sarah, that is a story that I never heard of another actor having. That is just for if you're if you're I mean, when do you ever see or hear something like that happening to an actor? That's just insane. Well, as we all know, Sarah has the craziest luck in the history of, like, just everything

happens to Sarah. Sarah, we touched on that a bit in an earlier episode, how you would come in on Monday morning and you would have a story that was like nothing else we had ever heard and it happened every week. Honestly, I still feel like sometimes I need to call you guys because I'm like, you would not believe what just happened to me. Lately, it's mostly at the grocery store. I mostly want to call you after I leave the grocery store

and be like, take a deep breath and be like, okay, so I get there. The produce box bottoms up and all the produce drops in the main aisle where everybody's standing. The woman behind me coughs, the woman in front of me. I mean, that is every day right now. We just couldn't believe that every Monday morning, you would be like, you are not gonna believe

what happened to me this weekend. And then we'd be like, yeah, right. And then she would go into a story that was like, that's the most insane thing I've ever heard. That's just this weekend. Right, and also it would be so crazy. I'd be like, there's no way she can make this shit up. There's no way she can make this up.

I mean, it is incredible how similar I am with Elliot. Okay, well let's talk about the audition process then. Yeah, talk about, that's a good segue into, talk about getting scrubs now, because what was the auditioning process? When I read, finally came around to getting callbacks, I was reading with you, so you were, were you the first person cast?

Don and I were cast together. My audition process, I had just moved back, like after the Rose Antioch, I moved back to Canada for four years. And then my best friend had finished film school and she wanted to produce. And I wanted to act and there's, you know, there was just at the time, not as much filming in Canada as does now. And I creatively was like, okay, I'll go back and give LA another try. We had a, we got a six month sublet and we moved down. We didn't know anyone and we never had any plans. And so this one night we had plans, we were going to a show and I get this, I had two auditions in my, you know, for the next day. And normally I'm so type A, I wouldceled my plans and spend every second that existed between getting the sides until going into the audition working on it

And I was like, you know what fuck it. I'm not canceling, you know on Jen we're gonna go to the show and I got home and was midnight and my audition was at 9 a.m And the other audition was at noon. My scrubs audition was at 9 a.m And I I opened the script and I started reading it and I swore every page. I was like noon. My Scrubs audition was at 9am. And I opened the script and I started reading it. And I swore every page I was like, fuck, oh shit, oh my god, this is so good. And every page, I was like, oh shit, this is like the best thing I've ever read. Oh, fuck, I want this job so badly. I want this part so bad. And so by 1230, I'm like sitting there with having read the script

and with these sides. And I love the show. I love the writing, I love the part so much. So I thought, okay, I'll skip the other audition. I won't read that one. Whatever that is goes in the garbage. And I read with Debbie and Brett, the cash instructors at nine o'clock on a Friday morning. And they said, okay, can you come back at three to read with Bill?

That's a good sign. That's a great sign right there. That's a great way. One of our, one of Jen's and my very, very good friends, husbands was in town for work and he had come over to visit us. And so him and Jen, Aaron Brindle, and Jen read the, read the sides with me.

And so we just kept like running them. And then I went and auditioned with Bill at three. Auditions were like 10 days later, because they were still casting other people to go to studio and network. So then we did studio and then network. So there's four auditions, and I wore the same thing. I do too.

I remember that about you, Sarah, because the last two auditions, we were there together. I remember that. And you wore the same jeans with the big-ass belt. And it had a big belt buckle. Am I right? Okay. I know the belt you're talking about. I went through a very big belt buckle collecting phase so I had this old vintage leather belt and then I would switch out like an old Coca-Cola

belt buckle or like, so I did wear that a lot, but in my memory, I don't know, we could both either. I have no idea which one of us is right, but in my memory, what I wore was I wore black boots with a heel, black pants and a tight black tank top. Because when I first moved to LA and I would go on these auditions, I remember I went out for an errand spelling, wearing these plaid funky bell bottoms that I thought were really cool and this vintage t-shirt. I thought that I was super excited about this outfit. I walked in and there were 10 girls and they were all wearing tight black tank tops and tight black pants. And I thought, okay, so that's how you do

it here. Got it. I remember the jeans being blue. I do remember them being, I thought they were tight as fuck too. I remember being like, damn, those jeans is tight. On the way, I was the same way, not with the tight jeans, but I, the second I started getting callbacks, I was like, I'm not washing this. I want my pheromones. I want my pheromones on it. I'm not jinxing this thing. And I would get like another callback and be like, not changing. Not, I mean, I was just so, towards the end I remember I was like

doing the same thing I did that morning. I would get up, I would sit in the chair, have a coffee, I would go to the treadmill, do 30 minutes. Like I had a whole regiment. I would listen to the same few songs before I went to the audition. I like had a ritual. Do you remember what they were?

Definitely Madonna. One of mine was Change by Blind Melon. Oh, I love it. How is a melon blind? That doesn't make no sense. Donald is the name of a very popular band. You might like their music. Let's circle back to Sarah's audition process.

I feel like probably I'm guessing that Baby's Got Back was another one of the songs. Wow. That really got you. Do you want to tell them your Baby Got Back story? Yeah. I was very impressed that you knew. I didn you want to tell them your baby got backstory? Yeah. I was very impressed that you knew. I didn't know that song as well as you knew that song. For grad parent event, we had to do talent for the parents and kids got up and played

the violin and the piano and 10 of my girlfriends and I got up and danced. We had a whole routine. The routine did is a bit, it was a bit sexual. I think that was kind of odd for the talent show. No, they were seniors though. I think all of our parents were probably like, I asked them, I should say, like, what did you think when your child was up there at grad parent event? It seems like a very odd. How old were you guys?

We were in grade 12, which is Canadian for 12th grade. Yeah, right. So you were about to graduate. We were in grade 12, which is Canadian for 12th grade. Yep. So anywho, they listened to my songs, the Holden BC lot. And in the quarantine cleanup, I did find my sides from the auditorium, the visitors pass. I saved both of those. But I remember being in the parking lot and just like seat back in the car and lying there. And someone told me to do this. I've never told anyone this, but to visualize yourself walking into the audition, visualize the whole thing playing out and visualize yourself walking

out and it going really well. I remember sitting in my car in the NBC parking lot, closing my eyes, visualizing the whole thing. Donald and I were in there together with some other Turks and some other elites and some other JDs. And we basically all took turns going in and then they came back out and then you go back in with this person and read together and then they pair you up and you read together. And it was, yeah, pretty nerve-racking. Let me ask you a question. Did you know any of the young ladies that were auditioning for your role?

I knew both of the guys that were auditioning for Turk. I knew, and I, not only did I know them, I knew them well too. Like I hung out with one of them and we, and we used to play a lot of basketball together. And then the other one, we did a bunch of movies together or we did a movie together, but I would see them out at the club all the time. Was it Denzel? I wish it was Denzel. I wish I could be like Denzel. I got

it. Yo D, I got that shit. Denzel, Denzel, this one's mine. I'm sorry. Sorry buddy. You'll bounce back. Don't worry about it. So was that weird to sit there with kind of buddies or? Yeah, you know, it was very, it was very weird. And it was, it's also one of those things where it was like, you know, if one of these guys get it, I'm going to freaking, I'm going to lose my shit. You know what I mean? Like as much as I love you guys and as much as, you know, I have root for you guys, I want this so bad. I want this so bad.

I can, I could taste it. Both very successful have gone on to do other things. I just really wanted Chris Turk bad. Yeah. Well, you got it. I mean, so when you're sitting in that, for people that are listening, when you're sitting in that position

and you're going to studio, you're going to network, you don't have the part yet, and you sign a six-year contract, they call it five plus one. And I'm always like, well, but isn't that six years? That's a contract lingo for don't tell them it's six years. We're gonna call it five plus one. Yeah, five plus one.

So you sign five plus one. And I feel like that's always such a feeling of, I mean, you're 24 and you're thinking, wow, until I'm 30. And in any other scenario that would kind of take your breath away. In this case, I was just like, yes, for the love of God, please, a hundred years of doing this. Like, there was no two seconds of thinking about it.

It was like, I'm desperate. And wow, if it could ever go, I would be grateful for as many years as it would go for. And that feeling of just complete signing that and so hopeful that would happen anyways. And Bill called me a few hours later that day or it was the next day. It was very soon after the audition. It was either later that day or the next day. And I couldn't believe it. I think we all probably, after reading that script,

kind of felt like it was really something special and had the possibility of, I mean, obviously you never know, but the chance to go for it some times because the writing was so good. As you know, Sarah, I did not read the script before we shot the pilot. I didn't read the script until the table read. And I was like, oh, that's what happens.

Really? Dude, I didn't know it script until the table read and I was like, oh, that's what happens Dude I didn't know it was a freaking dope pilot until my agent was like dude. This is like a really big pilot I had never I never knew the trivia that you didn't read the script till the table read Do you not know that remember the Titans? I didn't know what happened in the script until the table read I remember we did it dude. I just knew... That's so bad. Listen, I just knew only my stuff. I was a kid. I was young. Listen, there would be times when we'd be shooting Scrubs where the whole script wasn't out yet because the writers were behind. So we'd get scenes, but Bill would explain what was going on. And you shoot out of order. So we'd be like, Monday morning, time to rehearse.

And Donald and I are standing on a table. And he'd whisper in my my ear like, yo, yo, why are we standing on a table? He had no idea what was happening in the script. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back with the legendary Sarah Chalk. Hi, I'm Arturo Castro and I've been lucky enough to do stuff like Broad City and Narcos and Roadhouse, and so many commercials about back pain. And now I'm starting a podcast because honestly guys, I don't feel the space is crowded enough. Get Ready for Greatest Escapes, a new comedy podcast about the wildest true escape stories in history.

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was during the auditions in the show when you're, it was like, I can't remember what season, but we're supposed to be auditioning and Neil and Sam Lloyd are auditioning you. And like, I remember you walked in and you were like, oh yeah, I think I could, you read the actual script. You're like, I think I can come up with a dance for that. And you had to come up with a dance.

And you just came up with on the spot and you're such a fucking good dancer. You came up with this unbelievable dance to poison and then like my kids are all obsessed with the fact that it's a fortnight dance now and they watch the fortnight character do it beside you And they've all tried to learn it we've tried to learn it. I can't learn it. It's I don't think I could even do it again So I just want to say the building off what Sarah said, that's a perfect example. Sorry, Sarah. That is the best example. Donald hadn't read the script and everyone loves that dance.

People talk about it. It's the Fortnite dance. It's everywhere. Donald literally showed up and was like, you want me to do what now? And he had to, and he totally improvised that dance on the spot. Well there was a lot of years of, you know, I was a huge New Edition fan, a huge Belle Biv DeVoe fan. I still am a huge New Edition and Belle Biv DeVoe fan, and Bobby Brown and Ralph Tres

fan, all of them. Anyway, I had been dancing like that my whole life, pretty much, since I was like, and since 92, I was doing dances like that. And so when they were like, we want you to dance to Poison, in my mind, I was like, yeah, I know some steps that I could do to that, to everybody else. Because I remember I was late that day. Everybody packed the room that day. And I know the pressure was on me, but I was like,

this is something that I do all the time. Now there are other times where I didn't prepare when we were doing the show, and it cost us like hours of filming. Oh my God, Donald, I remember I was directing once and Donald had a paragraph of medical jargon, like a really hard, a paragraph you would, anyone would have to practice a lot because it was like fast medical jargon

and like five sentences. And I was directing and just Donald could not get it because he hadn't even looked at it. It's not something you could do on the spot. And I remember when you're directing a scene, you normally start with the widest shots and then you start moving into closer and closer angles. And I was like, Donald, we got to move on, dude. Don't worry, we'll cut it together. We'll cut it together. By the time we got to an extreme close-up of Donald's face, like eyebrow to chin, he finally got it. And if you watch that episode, like Donald does the whole monologue in a shot that's like this tight.

Cause that was finally the only time he ever got it. Those days are over by the way, just anybody who's looking to hire me for anything. Yeah. I am not like that anymore. Don't worry. I'm sure no, no casting directors or directors are listening to our podcast.

But what Zach was saying about, you know, getting the script sometimes, you know, as the season would get towards the end and the writers were so taxed trying to crank out these scripts that were so funny. I remember one morning we got to work on a Monday morning and it was the week that my character had the voiceover because each of our characters had a voiceover for one time. They didn't have the script out yet, but we had to start shooting something. They said, we're just going to do a long kind of steady cam shot, following you through the hallways.

And I just want you to change your face around to go with different emotions and things you're going to write. So just, you know, you're walking and you're thinking like a little bit happy and you're a little bit sad and then you're thinking about something. We thought for two hours, just me and his steady cam. I'm like... That's funny that they probably had to eventually write to your expressions because they were changing because then they didn't, and the camera didn't want to cut away. So it's like, okay, wait, she's about to got a second of seriousness and then a smile. So like,

we need a one second sentence and then it's something to smile about. And then looking a little nostalgic and oof. All right. Should we go into this episode? This is one of my favorite episodes. This is one of my favorite episodes of the whole nine years. It really is special. And I want you to know I haven't seen it in 20 years and I got goosebumps multiple times

watching it. That's how it really does hold up I was watching there's some really great moments in this show in Particular with you Sarah this this you know, I looked at this show when I first when we first did this show I was like, oh wow, we all get a chance to shine here But this was a moment I feel like for you and for Judy as well where you guys you guys really crushed this episode Like it's really fucking good. Like you two alone you alone you and Judy alone Like really I don't know what it is

But you guys start off on a you know as adversaries and by the end of it your friends and that's For a half an hour to be able to tell a story like that's very difficult to start two people off as enemies, especially when the narrative so far in the show has been you guys not getting along. And so, you know, it really is a testament to how good you are as an actress that you guys were able to not only bring the funny, but bring the drama, and then also bring the connection so that the story tracks all the way through. And I just wanted to give you props on that straight up, right out, you know, the bat. And also, it was so early on in the show, too. It was episode four. And so for us to be able to jump in and tell such a good story

is really a testament to how good, first of all, Matt Tarsus. Holy shit. What a good writer, dude. Matt Tarsus wrote it. And we should also say that this was the first episode not directed by Adam Bernstein, and it was the first episode directed by Mark Buckland, who really added a lot of cool style. We've spoken about how Adam Bernstein really

developed the language of how the camera moves and scrubs and how you could do some trick shots and how there was a lot of creativity. The camera was a character in the show. And Mark Buckland, I think, with this episode, really took that and ran with it and added a lot of new language to the way the show was a character in the show. And Mark Buckland, I think, with this episode, really took that and ran with it and added a lot of new language to the way the show was shot.

Adam Bernstein, it should be said, directed the Babies Got Back video in case anyone out there does not know that. Yes, that is beautiful trivia there for you Scrubs fans. Sarah can do the full dance and knows all the lyrics to Babies Got Back. And coincidentally, was it Sir Mix-A-Lot? Yes, it is Sir Mix-A-Lot.

The Sir Mix-A-Lot music video was directed by Adam Bernstein. There you go, that's not on your scrubs, Wiki. Right, thank you. Told you, Wiki. Wiki, we got it from here. Well, first of all, Donald, thank you for saying all those nice things.

I felt the same way about you guys. Like I was like going like, wow, Donald and Zach fucking nailing this episode. And it's like, we just started, like we were a few weeks in, it was that fourth episode, but it was the third one that we'd shot in that chunk you know separated out from the pilot and like I feel like Bill had told us a long time ago that he didn't he say to the network we're going to set it up one out of every three patients die here and you're kind of waiting the whole

episode to find out who it's going to be and then they all die I feel like he said that to the network and they said no you can only have one patient die and to find out who it's going to be. And then they all die. I feel like he said that to the network and they said, no, you can only have one patient die. And he said, no, but it's going to be all three that we have to do that. We're coming out of the gate right now. We're going to show the audience that this is what the show is. And all those years on scrubs, this one for me, absolutely is the one that stands out whenever I think of the show as being the one that really shows the responsibility

that's put on these young, young, young doctors. I mean, my little sister is in her first year right now of being a real doctor. What a crazy time in the world to be doing that. And I can't believe her stories. I can't believe what level of responsibility that they're given right out of the gate. I mean, you know, I'll be at work on set and I'm on lunch and I come back from

lunch and she's like, you know, she's just been doing CPR on someone for 30 minutes trying to save them. And I'm like, well, I was just in hair and makeup touch-ups. And they took the same curl and we curled it again to make it curly. Like it just, it's such a, uh, it's, it takes your breath away really what the decisions young doctors have to make it curly. Like it just, it's such a, it just takes your breath away really what the decisions young doctors have to make. Do you think your sister was inspired by you?

I mean, it's interesting, you know, a lot of younger sisters might be inspired that their older sister was a real doctor, but because she grew up with you playing this character, do you, does she think that that inspired her at all? Oh, I tried to get my, I remember I'd say to my family, like, hey guys, like, did you see, you know, I was so excited about the show.

I was like, did you see? And they were like, well, we T-voted because it's on the same time as 24, but that Jack Bauer, did you see what he did? No, they, I feel like, you know, she's 13 years younger than me. And I would like to think that I had that kind of an influence, but really she came out of the womb, a doctor. I mean, she, the stories are crazy. younger than me. And I would like to think that I had that kind of an influence. But

really she came out of the womb, a doctor. I mean, she, the stories are crazy. I mean, yeah, she, she was just so interested in medicine from such a young age and really so calm under pressure. Like I remember just, just responsible. I mean, I remember we went on a road trip and she'd had her license for maybe two weeks. And my dad was like, so she's going to drive, right? I was like, Dad, I've been driving for 13 and a half years. He's like, yeah, yeah, so she's going to drive, right? She just is a much more responsible human. It definitely has been interesting just rewatching a couple, like just last night, rewatching

a couple of the early episodes and thinking about them just in the context of her and this one in particular, because it's pretty unbelievable. You see JD and Elliot and Turk and the pressure that is on them and just all of it, like trying to figure out what calls they can make on their own and when to go for help.

Here's a little bit more Scrubs trivia. Your little sister taught my 18-year-old when he was probably nine to 10 months at this time how to walk. That's right. Oh my God. And it happened on the third floor of the hospital right in between our dressing rooms. That's so crazy. Crazy. And now she's an adult and she's That's so crazy. Crazy.

And now she's an adult and she's taking care of patients. Wow. Is she on the front line right now? She is. I think about her mostly every minute. Wow. We bring pots and pans every night. All of us and my three-year-old has broken

a couple measuring cups because she gets so into it. That's very sweet. You do it as like an honor to the healthcare workers. Yeah. So it's, it's really cool. Actually everybody, everybody goes out on their, on the, everybody goes outside at like seven o'clock and just bangs the pots and pans and screams and cheers. Oh, I like that. I want my neighborhood, I want my neighborhood to do that. I, I, we need a primal scream. Oh, you start it. It's so cool. Yeah.

Just segueing back to the show, I want to just say that you'll hear us at a minute and 45 seconds, there's this really cool Steadicam shot that really kind of sets up the tone of the show. You'll hear us talk about the word Steadicam a lot on this. And if you don't know what it is, it's a way of mounting the camera on an operator's body so that the operator can move around and the camera just feels like it's floating around. And it's something that was used extensively on the Scrubs set as we traveled on the hallways. But I pointed out as I was talking about Mark Buckland, the director's style, how I like

this sort of way he's introducing that this episode is going to be about the three of us where the camera starts on me and then it goes to Sarah and it never cuts and then it goes by the children and then it comes up to Donald as he comes into the room. And I just thought that was kind of an early example of something that we did ended up doing a lot of, of sort of moving around the hallways without cutting a lot. Yeah, also, I don't know if you guys noticed,

but the hospital's really dark in this episode. Yeah, that's true. The lights aren't on, really. Everything's, you know, it's very, very dark in this episode. Not only that, here's another thing. It's jumping ahead. But this is one of the first times where Kelso isn't the bad guy on the show also.

What I've noticed is that when we're dealing with something like that's as powerful or as strong as death, it's us versus the hospital, if you've noticed that. You know what I mean? It's the cast versus death. And in this one, Kelso is a mentor in this one. He gives really good advice in this one to JD. And he's not the obstacle. He's the one that's actually trying to help solve the problems in this.

Now, if you watch other episodes, he's never really like that. You know what I mean? He's always the bad guy. This was the first episode, well, obvious the first episode in a run, but this is the first episode that I can remember where I was like, wow, Kelso was on board with us this whole time. I like what you pointed out too about the lighting

because traditionally in half hour TV comedy, everything's always bright. There's like this unwritten rule that for it to be funny, it's gotta be bright. And again, just challenging some of the conventions in this episode, both John Inwood, the cinematographer, and Mark Buckland did things like have it be in dark rooms, having some of the dramatic moments,

like an ICU later, happen at night or at sundown, which I thought was, I agree, that was something I hadn't noticed. That was the first time they did that. Yeah, it carries on throughout the series too. Yeah. At 2.26, we meet Catherine on throughout the series too. Yeah. At 226 we meet Catherine Joosten playing Mrs. Tanner. Now she is such an, was, she has since

passed away, but was such an extraordinary actress and I remember she had just done a very high profile run on the West Wing where that character had passed away as well and I remember thinking well is that gonna be odd that she's coming on to our, mean, I'm glad she's coming on because she's a wonderful actress, but having just played someone else who died, I think I just remember that being in my head, like she had just done such a hope high profile moment on, on West Wing.

But then the second I started working with her, I, I I just felt in awe of her, of her talent. And that was the furthest thing from my mind. One of my favorite moments in the episode when she says, are you a good doctor? And you say, it's probably too soon to tell. Like, I just feel like it's such an example of how the show walked that line of like,

you're just on the edge of your seat and you're crying and then you're laughing. And there's a few moments. Oh, there's a couple of moments that I laughed my ass off. When JD goes to the park to meet up with her. Yeah. And he's like, you got to get your ass back to the hospital. And then he's like, is that s'mores? And then they cut away. And then they cut back and he's still chastising her.

But now he's got chocolate all on his lips. JD was not going to pass up a s'mores moment. Are you kidding me? You think he could have found a big cake? JD was not, JD was trying, his perfect JD thing to be like really trying to be taken seriously with s'mores chocolate over all of his lips. Another one of my favorite laugh out loud moments is when Donald is doing the workout video, which is, which is foreshadowing the poison dance a little bit because you're dancing in the very same room. And a little bit of, and some sense, some sweet moves that I guarantee

you were not in the uh 80s workout video, but when he's like, she had such energy and warmth, dude, the woman, League of Women Voters called and they want to know where to send your membership. Sarah, tell us about, I'm a, tell us about I'm a chunky monkey from funky town, because I remembered that. And I just was like, who wrote that? That is the most random thing in the world. I guess Matt Tarsus or who knows. But was the idea that you were just testing out, Elliot was just testing out that she could say anything in front of a woman?

Yes. Yes, I think so. Yes. Obviously to Carla's dismay. that she could say anything in front of a woman? Yes, yes, I think so, yes. Obviously to Carla's dismay. There's a lot of trivia in this episode because we introduced characters that from that moment on weren't on the show anymore. Like I remember Layla Lee, she plays the surgeon in the room with Dr. Winn and Turk.

She was really good. I had the same reaction. I was like, Winn and Turk. She was really good. I had the same reaction. I was like, what happened to her? She was good. Yeah. So I do know the story. I remember we were filming and it was a couple of episodes in and she was going to come back as my nemesis.

And she was saying how she had just got this part on a television show that was going to take her out of California or not out of California, but out of the Los Angeles area. And she was going to go do that instead. And I remember being like, but what about us? What about, what about what we've got going? This is so funny. And she was like, you know, I'm a guest star on this show, but on the other show, I would be a lead. And so she went and took the other job to be honest with you. And that's remember what the show was. It was tremors. Oh, okay. It was a syndicated version of Tremors. And I remember it ran for a while. And the dad from Family Ties, I think, is on it.

I'm not sure. I could be wrong. I just remember watching that scene, which we'll get to later in the episode. And you guys had such a funny banter, that spoofing of a couple driving together. And then I had the same thought. I go, oh, that young woman was so funny.

What happened to her? And I guess she got her own show at the time. Well, yeah, she got a job and went on to do other things. Two other people of Scrubs lore who were introduced in this episode, 759, very quickly if you watch, Danny Rose, who was build assistant, now obviously became producer on the show, he walks by in the park and he has tankers on his shoulders.

And tankers was what a big bulldog that he had? Yeah, tankers. And we have to talk about the legendary Mike Schwartz who plays his very first appearance. A lot of times we're watching these episodes and I forget that some of these people were introduced so early. So Mike Schwartz was one of the writers on the show, very funny comedy writer, and he plays the delivery guy, the UPS guy, if you will, that is first, they establish him giving something to Kelso,

and then later he comes and delivers the ton of bricks to me. He is, we had so many laughs with that guy, huh? Oh my God, he was constantly doing bits and making us all laugh, like you'd walk by him in the hallway and he'd be like, what, what's that? Oh, it's J.Crew. Like just. He would do this bit that I,

I don't know why it was so funny, but he would pretend to call off to someone that wasn't there. And he would do a bit where he was pretending that they were asking him who made his shirt. And so he'd be reaching for the tag. He'd be like, what? Oh, hold on.

Let me, oh yeah, it's J. Crew. And it was so stupid. But he was talking to no one. And you would laugh every single time. Every time. The loneliest guy in the world, where you tap him on the shoulder and be like, ooh. Well, he ended up putting that in the show.

He ended up putting that in the show. Totally. He went on to be the, was he the drummer for the Air Band? That same episode that we were talking about? Yes. He liked his character. Later episodes we learned that his character liked speed metal.

Right. And that his character was a big time drug addict and everything like that. And was always high and stuff like that. I think so. And he was very lonely. But that bit about, that was his bit where you, no one touched him.

So if you ever did graze his shoulder, he would sort of cuddle his own shoulder. Because he was so lonely. Because he was so lonely and lacking of touch. Loneliest guy in the world. And then Randall Winston is introduced as Death. Death, yeah. Randall Winston, our fearless leader.

Randall Winston was our line producer on the show. And for those who don't know, a line producer is the producer that really is handling the sort of the daily money of things, really like the guy with the spreadsheet being like, we can afford that, we can't afford that. And he was a very, he was, he is a very tall man. How tall would you say he is? Six, seven or something?

Six, six. Yeah. And so he was established early on as death. And he played death throughout the whole run. Yes. And some of you are too young to know that what this joke is about Connect 4, but Connect 4 was a game from the 80s. It still is a game. Kids still play Connect 4. But I'm saying they didn't have the cheesy ad. The cheesy ad in the

80s was a brother and sister playing and the sister wins and the brother goes, pretty sneaky, sis. Remember that? You guys can look it up on YouTube. And so that's why we were spoofing that old 80s ad where where I go, pretty sneaky, death. But you got to do the lead-up to it is, I win. Where? I don't see it. Right here, diagonally. Pretty sneaky, sis. Pretty sneaky, sis. And Randall, his main belief was that it's not a party unless both hands are in the air. So we had the most incredible rap parties and celebrations. When we would rap shows, we had great parties, man. And Randall is like some of the highlights of every party, like some of the best party

highlights that I've ever experienced involve Randall. Yeah, for us, the guy spending the money for the party really loved to party. Right. Yeah, we had some good parties. I'm sure there's episodes where they were like, you don't need that set, we're throwing a party. Right. I don't believe it. Why Johnny C's home space looked very sparse because we needed to go to Vegas. Oh my God, we were just talking about that, how Johnny C, they didn't get around to Johnny C's,

really building Johnny C's apartment. It was just a hospital set. But I think Randall spearheaded, I'm sure, that we got to go on that crazy, amazing trip, everybody to Vegas. We had to do, like, they were able to kind of combine a press event with a scrubs wrap party. And so they organized it so like our whole camp went to Vegas altogether. Things that will never happen ever in... Never again. I doubt any show is taking their whole company to Vegas to throw a bash. That will not happen. Those were the old days. Yeah.

We got to shoot a whole season in the Bahamas with the whole crew. Not a season. Not a season, just a couple of episodes. Sarah may have stayed and shot a season. What is a season? Donald, I want to know a sports question and I want you to be honest. Yes. Did you know what the quote unquote catch was? Absolutely. It's a famous thing that sports people know about? Absolutely.

So Joe Montana, it looked like he couldn't throw it to anyone in this game. Now granted, I don't know who they were playing. So when we're talking about it in the show, I didn't know who they were playing, but he found Dwight Clarke in the end zone. And it was, you know, it's one of the biggest catches in history. As a matter of fact, it's a part of a commercial, like a Gatorade commercial or something like that.

And that's how I first heard about it. Cause I wasn't a big football fan growing up. I didn't become a football fan until later on in life. But yes, I did know when they referenced The Catch, I knew exactly what it was. Okay, good, because I didn't know, because I don't know anything about sports, if everyone who's into sports knows,

oh, The Catch, it's called The Catch. Well, I mean, at that time it was called The Catch. I'm sure since then, Eli Manning and Mario Manningham, they have a, how he found him on the, you know, running down this. I didn't know when or where the catch was, but I had heard of the reference before. Donald, tell us about the bowling thing. Cause I was laughing at this going, what are those, what are those pins? Like, what is that supposed to be in the hospital?

Those giant blue things. First of all, this, this is a testament for how immature Christopher Turk was. So the kid says to him, hey, it's the catch. Turk turns around and goes, yeah, I'll watch the catch with you. And within 15 minutes, he's bowling a kid down the hospital hall. Like, how did this kid convince, like, that's how weak-willed Chris Turk is. How in the hell did this kid convince him to put him in a wheelchair and push him down the hall into a bunch of, I guess they were recycling bins. Is that what they were supposed to be recycling bins? I think so.

Because to me they looked like cardboard tubes that someone put in the house. Right. I'm hoping that it was a recycling bin. But like how did this kid convince him and the rest of the floor? Like Chris Turk walked out the room and was like, yo, this is what we gonna do. All right? I'ma put him in a wheelchair. I know I just started as a doctor here.

But I'm gonna roll a patient in a wheelchair down the hall. If you're a new doctor, don't try that at work, please. Well, and that was the great thing about this show also is that he was held accountable for it. Kelso right away. And this is where Kelso mentors Turk kind of also. We're not here to make friends, we're here to treat these patients, dude.

Be a doctor. Yeah, I wanted to talk about the park, sorry, you referenced it already, but I remember feeling really bad at nine minutes and 30 seconds slamming that little girl's face into the cake. That was hilarious. I wish I could do that to my kids sometimes. It was funny. feeling really bad at nine minutes and 30 seconds slamming that little girl's face into the cake. That was hilarious.

I wish I could do that to my kids sometimes. It was funny. I mean, it was funny on paper when we got there and she has that cute little face and I was like, so you guys really want me to jam this girl's face into the cake? And they're like, yeah, you got to do it. You can't just like fake it. You got to do it. And I was like, and I talked to her, I was like, sweetie, are you okay with this?

And she's like, yeah, sure. It's gonna be funny. And I was like, all right, here we go. And I just jammed her head and it felt really nice. Yeah, listen, Sarah can attest to this. She has children as much as we love our children. Oh, sometimes you wanna just send their face into a cake.

Send their face into a cake. Especially when they're gonna be quarantining for the near multiple, multiple days, months. If I had the opportunity, and I knew my wife wouldn't be pissed off at me for doing it, Rocco's face would have been slammed into a couple of his birthday cakes. Into many a cake? I'm just going to put that out there right now. I might need to go bake a couple cakes.

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We're very lucky here on this show, Sour Chalk, that we get to take a caller once an episode. And here she is. What's your name? Alexis Torres Plumlee! Hi. In my best Oprah. Donald just gave you an Oprah intro, Alexis. I know. Oh, I was looking for your name and the good thing about Zoom is it just says it right there, Alexis Torres Plumlee. Right there on the bottom. Alexis Torres Plumlee!

Donald, don't ruin the woman's hearing. She's in quarantine. I'm actually in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania right now. PA in the house. Maya family has a steakhouse nearby. Oh, really? Called the Glass Lounge. Oh, I haven't gone there yet, but it's awesome. Will you go there?

I want you to go there. Tell them I sent you. If you're in that area, go to the Glass Lounge. It's going to be a while, buddy. It's going to be a while. Oh yeah, not now, obviously. But when this nightmare is over, go check out the Glass Lounge. Yeah, I will definitely go for sure. Well, thank you for coming on. And do you have a question? It doesn't have to be Sarah Chalk focused. It doesn't have to be, just because she's...

But if you want to, we understand. Just saying. She's an intelligent human, and she probably knows the best person to talk to. I mean, we'll see. No, I'm just kidding. Okay. I have, actually, it's technically a question

for all of you guys. If you could switch roles with anyone in the series, any character, who would it be, and how would you play their character? Would it be different than how it was originally played or? That's a very good question. Sarah, go first. I mean, if it meant that I could have Donald's dancing skills.

Was that fantasy that Sarah and I were making out and I was making out with you because she was you? Oh my god. Like it starts off where you guys are making out and then she's like, you fantasized about kissing turks just now, she was you? Oh my God. So it starts off where you guys are making out and then she's like, you fantasize about kissing Turk just now, didn't you? And then I made out with Mandy Moore as myself. You were, Mandy was dressed up as herself.

No, Mandy was just herself and you were dressed up as me, I think. Right. I think that was a really beautiful moment in television history right there. I didn't make out. I didn't make out with Judy. In the pilot. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. We just watched that where you made out with the pilot. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, we just watched

that where you made out with the model girl. Was that the pilot or is that the second episode? That was the second episode. Yeah. But so you'd like to be Donald if you could be anybody else is what you're saying. Well, if I could do that fucking poison dance or rowdy, that would be pretty low. What about you, Zach? It's a very good question. I guess it's funny because you don't want to pick... You want to have some screen time, right? You want to pick one of the sevens, so you're going to have some good screen time. I think I would choose Johnny C just because he had such amazing... They just knew how to write for him so amazingly well, and he was just...

I don't know. I think that I just loved all the material they gave Johnny so I think that would be a really challenging fun part to even attempt to do. Nobody would pick Mash walking around in a banana hammock? That's who I was going to pick. If I could pick anybody, I guess it would be Mashio. If I could get, but like we teased, we used to make fun of mashio about running line and everything like that, but I had such a hard time learning my lines back then that I probably, it probably would have suited me to play mash. You know the first thing, the first step to solving, memorizing your lines, is to actually just do it. Or to read the script actually.

That's read the script. I love how you're always like, I just have such a hard time memorizing lines. I'm like, dude, you've been playing PlayStation in your dressing room. That's what I did. Yeah. You haven't even looked at it. No, yeah. Okay. All right. Do you have another question, Alexis? Do you have another question? We're going to answer a better one.

Yeah, your questions suck. That's what he just said. No, I like you. I like you. I'm creative. It was thoughtful. Alexis, I think you're spectacular and I love Harrisburg, but I think you got a better question than you, go. No, I don't know if I should ask. No, now you gotta ask.

What was something that you were super proud of back then that you did, maybe it was a scene or a specific joke or anything like that, but then now since you guys are doing the rewatch and you've seen it now, you're kinda like, oh, that wasn't as good as I remember. Well, that's a good question. Sarah, as guests, you have to go first.

Jesus, the pressure. I feel like, interestingly enough, like- You're like, I feel like, interestingly enough, I was just fucking amazing. I mean- I mean, I thought you were amazing. Like, I find the early stuff a little bit harder to watch. I feel like I learned so much on the show. I feel like I learned so much on the show. I feel like I learned so much from Bill. I learned so much from the rest of the cast.

And I feel like it's so different watching those early episodes and eight years later. Certainly with Elliot too, the character changed a lot. Like in the pilot, we even did reshoots. She was much harder and much, you know, there was just a bit more of a, a biatch in the, in the, in the beginning. And then, and then we actually did a couple of reshoots to soften her. And then I think, you know, the, the line between me and her started to blur. It's a first part of your question. What were you the most proud of? Certainly, interestingly enough, it's, this is definitely one of those episodes. Like when I think back on the eight years, this is the first one to pop into my mind about just the kind of show that Scrubs was. And then in terms of things to do differently,

well, that's just, I mean... Sarah, I don't think you could have done everything differently. I wish that I could go back and have a chin because this episode starts with the least flattering view of my non-existent chin. And in later episodes, I would look at the director and be like, bro, don't shoot me like that. I mean, I'm doing the best I can with what I have, but that's not the angle I want for myself. And Bill, I don't know how many listeners know this, but Bill would like to add things that were actual real physical attributes and write them into the show.

So characters would be named by their physical attributes. So like the guy with the beard is Beardfusse, because he, you know, and so, so for me, my character, you know, you had to say lines like, short hair gives me pig face, which is not untrue. Oh my gosh. And, and there was one where I had, uh, my characters like, oh yeah, chin hairs back.

Cause I have this mole where, um, three hairs grow out of it. And so that was actually written into the show. By the way, my son said to me a few years ago, completely seriously, he's like, mama, I have terrible news. And I said, what? And he goes, you're growing a beard. Oh my gosh. news and I said what and he goes you're growing a beard. So there were definitely moments of the show where he just had to go okay all in the name of

comedy I shall air out my biggest insecurities. Yeah. And you know in terms of how it worked too like Bill would come up and he would watch us and this is not common for every you know creator of a show to come up for every single rehearsal he would come up from you know to the to the set from the writers room and the writers room was in another wing of the hospital he would tweak a lot of stuff he would say i actually don't love this blocking i think how i'd had it in my head was x y or z and um and he would he would he would tweak our performance in our jokes too to the point where like a lot of times i think actors like don't like a line read.

And I just had so much respect for him. I'd be like, yeah, just if you've got some way in your head, just, you know, tell us and we'll do it. Right. Yeah. All right. Well, thank you for coming on. Alexis! Alexis Torres Plumlee. Are you gonna give her the Oprah goodbye sendoff as well, Dawn? Let's say goodbye to Alexis Torres Plotnick!

You get a car, you get a car, you get a car. Alexis, we cannot give you a car. I know, it's okay. I can't go anywhere anyway. You can't go anywhere. Yay! Yes, go get a steak when this is all said and done at the Glass Lounge. All right, thank you so much, Alexis.

Bye! Thanks, Alexis! Later. You guys, at 11.49, one of my biggest regrets in the history of scrubs is that I flinch right before those bricks fall on me. And I remember Bill being so disappointed in me because there were like four takes of it

and I flinched every time, but it's pretty tricky to not flinch when you know a bunch, I know that they're not real bricks, but it still was noticeably uncomfortable. I mean, it'd be pretty hard not to, especially I feel like all that shit, that they're not real bricks, but it still was noticeably uncomfortable. I mean, it'd be pretty hard not to, especially I feel like all that shit, even if it was like a major pratfall or something, once you've done it once, I feel like our best chance out of the gate is on your first take because the second you've done it once, you know what's going to happen, you know the feeling of it. Maybe you tweak something a little bit in your shoulder

and then it's around. But this was early on in the show and I was really loving doing physical comedy and I always loved physical comedy. You referenced John Ritter. I mean, when I grew up on Three's Company and I just thought that John Ritter was the funniest person I'd ever seen and I wanted to be like him and Bill was giving me lots of love for my physical comedy and this was the first moment where he like called me in the editor's room. He's like, dude, you flinched on every take. And I was like, no, you blew it. I was like, I let daddy down. Fucking blew it. The first time I was called up by, by Bill, uh, after he left the editing room was you guys will remember the day, uh, we had been so lucky to get nominated for an Emmy and we were going and we were excited and I got to borrow this

fancy dress and The stylist I'd never had a stylist before and she said so you need to go get it No, I'm not gonna do that I'm not gonna go get a tan and she said okay go get a spray tan Oh gosh, and so I said, okay So I think the Emmys were like on the Sunday. And so on the Friday of work, it might've been well before that. It might've been well before that. It might've been like maybe five days before or something like that, too. Cause we did the whole opposite. Wait, let her tell the story. Let her tell the story.

Okay. So I get to, uh, I get to the tanning booth and it's like that fucking episode of friends where Ross becomes a nine instead of a Three because it keeps spraying stuff at him. He doesn't turn around it sprays again It's very good so I get in there and you watch this little video and you put this cream on your hands and you got to spin around and Do these weird poses and I had like negative five minutes to get this done before going to set and I put a hair net over my face so that I wouldn't tan my face and then I rip that off and then keep spraying. And so I get to set and I'm tanned and then tanned is not the words. No, I'm gonna say hold on now. You were fucking you were full umpul umpul. Not yet. Not yet. Because what happens with this spray tan is it develops

over time. I was in the makeup chair on my makeup and we're doing these scenes. And then as the day goes on, I'm just getting like more and more and more tanned. And instead of actually tanned, it was just more and more and more orange. And so Bill comes and talks harder than any special effect we've ever done on the show. Harder than making Zach's head explode

in the fantasy sequence is going to be making you look less like an Oompa Loompa. Oh gosh. You know, like we're trying to float filters in front of your face because we can't color time it and just jack out. Like we can't just twine the knob and take out some of the color because we keep doing it and you're in a scene with Donald and then McDonald White. Dude, I'm gonna say something right now. I remember when it happened. I remember you being on set and I remember saying to you,

did you change something? Did you do your hair is different or something like that? What's so different? Blah, blah, blah. You were like, I got 10. I remember just like kids in a family, the three of us, whenever one of us was in trouble, I was always so happy when it wasn't me.

And you just be like, you just be on set, just kind of bouncing around like, oh shit, somebody's in trouble and it's not me. And Sarah is frigging orange. Oh my God, it was really so embarrassing. It's like we were laughing in another episode. That's just like the time I got the braces on the inside of my mouth.

We were laughing about that. When Donald showed up with braces, then he was like, so Bill, I got braces and nobody can even notice. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh my God. The exact same thing. Oh God. So what did you do? Did you just have to go get him taken out?

Yeah, right off. Yeah, dude. Yeah, he made me get him taken out. I got in Visalign in like season two. Everybody made so much fun of me. But I had to take him out like right before a take, but you're supposed to wear them like 22 and a tween. Like it was just, oh, it was a disaster.

I just remember Donald. It was so funny watching him try to sell the bill that the braces, nobody was going to notice those braces on the inside of his teeth. It's going to be great. Everybody's going to love this. Nobody's going to notice. Nobody's going to notice. Nobody's going to notice.

Nobody's going to notice. Nobody's going to notice. Nobody's going to notice. Nobody's going to notice. Nobody's going to notice. Nobody's going to notice. Nobody's going to notice. Nobody's going to notice. I just remember Donald, it was so funny watching him try to sell the bill that the braces, nobody was going to notice those braces on the inside of his teeth. It's going to be great. Everybody's going to love this. Nobody's even going to notice.

And I think it's going to be great for my teeth. I remember I went home that night after the spray tan and I had to scrub every ounce of my body. I just, my face and my body. I just was taking salt to it. Then I did a movie in Hawaii last year and the person wanted us to do a spray tan. Lauren Lapkus, who plays the lead in the movie, and I was supposed to get spray tans. I said, I've actually had a couple of really bad experiences with spray tans. I don't recommend it. I think it just reacts with me in a bad orangey way. They're like, no, no, no. We have the best

people in Hawaii. They're gonna come, they're gonna do it. You're gonna love it. So I come down the next morning, the woman comes to your hotel room and that force sprays you down. I come down to the hair and makeup trailer and they are freaking out.

They're like, your legs are orange. And then Lauren Lachance hasn't seen any of this like preamble to rocks. And she's like, who loves the spray tan? And they're like, Sarah, quickly, go back up to your hotel, take some salt, scrub, scrub it all off, get it all off quick. I'm like, okay, I'll be right back. Oh my God. So Sarah, I don't think spray tans are for you.

No. Do you burn when you get into the sun? Uh, yes. She's very pale. Look at her. Look how pale she is. That was the other joke. On this movie, there was no way I would literally in between scenes, I would be completely covered up to the point where we would go out at night

and everyone else would be like, Chalk, do you have your sunscreen on? Like I just, I mean, I burn. Let's talk about the scene, but the dramatic scene, Sarah. I think your acting is really good here. At 1703, there's this awesome scene where you and Judy, where Judy comes to get you and you're at the soda machine. I think this is a really, really good acting on your part.

Was this the first big monologue for you on the show? I thought you were gonna say, was this the first time that you put in your iPod and listened to Josh Raden? Oh, is that what you did? Oh, you're giving Josh Raden a plug. Was it Josh Raden or was it who, what was it? I will remember you.

Well, don't, don't take away her. Don't take away her Josh Raden plug. Donald is this what you use? Josh Raden's gotten enough plugs on this show. Is that, is that, is that who you used to get to, to make your eyes, uh, to make yourself emotional and eyes tear up? Well, I was still young. I mean, at that point now, you know, as you grow older, you have many more experiences to draw from. But I used to use an iPod and I

would play sad music and kind of get into the mode. I don't, not then that scene was kind of, it was very early on, it was enough. I mean, I remember just shooting it and it was, uh... Was it, Babies Got Back? Babies Got Back. I mean... There's something about the lyrics that... You can see if you look very closely, if you freeze the frame, you can see my hips just kind of undulating. My booty is shaking a little bit. Yeah, I know, Josh Raden, let's give him a plug, man.

He obviously was a soundtrack to many things. I delivered my children to Joshua Raden's song. If you're going to deliver your children, and that's coming up, we recommend you use the musical stylings of Joshua Radin. Josh Radin sang the song at my wedding. Our first dance was to Josh Radin. And he fucked up the song tremendously. He did?

But I love him. Oh my God, he didn't even remember the song. I got the video. Which song of it was it? Which song of it was it? It was- Which song of his was it? No, it was, Moon pours through the ceiling tonight, embraces us with light.

And it was perfect for the moment. The rest of my life can't compare to this night. Whoa, yeah. And only the heartaches have given me sight. They bring me to you. Right? Bring me to you. He fucked it up the whole,

he fucked up the whole song, dude. Well, that was pretty good. I wish I could play. You're running into the opposite of a plug. No, it was, it's fine, dude. He did it, listen. It's not every day you get somebody like him to one, perform at your wedding,

also to do it for free. So. You know that he also to do it for free. So- You know that he also performed at Ellen's wedding. He's still allowed to celebrate weddings. I'm sure they paid him. I didn't have to pay him. And for that alone, for that- And for that, we thank you.

Josh Raden, you are one of my heroes. I can't believe Donald didn't ask me to sing at his wedding, by the way. No, Sarah has the worst voice in the world, America. Let me tell you something. America and all other nations listening, don't ever let Sarah sing. Windows will break.

These photographs, give me life. This is what's happening in my house. The windows are going, ksh, ksh, ksh, ksh. I was conspicuously absent in the musical episode. And also- Do you remember when Darryl Hannah in Splash says her name? That's what happens when Sarah says her name. I guess we haven't covered that yet, that you guys didn't ask me to help you record

the opening song. Can you imagine? Do you like our song? I love your song. Yeah. Charlie Puth wrote the music and Donald and I were the lyricists. Well we wrote the melody too and then sent it to him. Well the melody is kind of-

Right. Can we take credit for melody? Melody was us, Charlie Puth is producer and music writer. Right. And you and I are the lyricists. But we could also, we also need to give little shout out to sitcom shows from back in the day, like the Jeffersons. Well, yeah. Someone said on Twitter, I thought it was right.

It said it's a mix between the Brady Bunch theme and the Jefferson's theme. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's exactly what it is. Yeah, I thought that was really perfect. Sara, do you find yourself singing our theme song when you're in your house in quarantine? It's, you know, I've actually learned it.

I've got, I'm learning the guitar, the ukulele actually. And I'll send you guys a clip of me singing it. And you, you know, I'll leave it in your hands if you want to put it on the show my girlfriend caught me uh on the treadmill listening to our theme song and laughed at me not with me at me you're proud of it you're proud of it things I noticed about the show about this show go ahead I had no idea that I bopped that hard in the hallway and when I I say bop, I mean, like I had the straight up, my walk is legendary, dude. A strut, is it like a strut?

It's like a strut, but it's like so over the top, dude. It's so over the top. It's like George Jefferson when he would do this. This is exactly like George Jefferson. It's like so heavy, it's like, yo, dude, why are you going so hard with that? And I just love it. Who was your inspiration? Do you remember who your inspiration was?

It's always Sherman Hemsley. Sherman Hemsley. Always. I wanted to say something about the scene. In 1907, I had this dramatic scene with Catherine Joosten and it was the first time I ever had the balls to go to bill because I thought I did a good job. And then he showed me an edit of it and he had taken out some of my dramatic pauses. And it was one of the first times in my acting career

where I was like, I was like, I gotta go talk to him because he's making me look like a bad actor. He's taking out the pauses, because the show had to be cut down to 22 minutes or something. And I remember Bill going like, dude, there's no time, it's 22 minutes, there's no time, it's 22 minutes. There's no time for pauses.

There's no time for dramatic pauses. And I think in the end he put a little bit back, but it was like, it was when she goes, are you okay? And then I go, I'm scared. And then when I saw it edited together for the first time, I was like, are you okay? I'm scared. And I was like, oh, that makes me look really bad.

And this is a thing that actors, I'm sure, I know as a oh that makes me look really bad. And this is a thing that actors I'm sure I know as a director feel all the time sometimes. You look and go, why did you cut me like that? Like on the day I thought I was doing a much better job, but if you take out that pause and cut to me like that, I don't look as good as I want to be, you know? I'm sure you guys had that feeling throughout the show sometimes. Well, yeah, you know, we would tell jokes sometimes and jokes wouldn't make the show. And, you know, we'd have moments where we thought,

you know, we were crushing it. And then only to see, you know, the editors and Bill decided to use the reaction shot instead of your actual, you know, instead of your performance. Right, or the joke's just completely gone. Right. Yeah, absolutely. I love that scene that you're talking about, Zach.

It was one of my favorite ones in the episode when she tells you to go and live your life and you're like, uh-huh, uh-huh, I'm just taking on a few things and you go up to the thing and you're kind of pretending. I don't wanna go. And then, my father, who passed away recently, always, always would reference this moment in Scrubs

that he thought it was so incredibly moving, the idea of an older woman comforting a young doctor about death. And he said, I just, you know, he was, he's like, I've never seen anything like that before. And when I was just watching it this time, I just remember how much he would always reference that. Cause it was so beautiful, that sentiment

that JD doesn't know how to deal with death yet, but here's this older woman who's ready to go, and she's the one comforting him about it. I just thought that was beautifully written. It somehow managed to also be funny in parts. That was what I couldn't believe. Like when she's just like, everybody dies. No, they don't.

Right. No, they don't. No, they don't. The Schmeiffel Tower. The Meiffel Tower. Have you ever been up the Meiffel Tower? What about the Meiffel Tower? That Meiffel Tower. Have you ever been up the Meiffel Tower? That being said, that whole list thing, especially the way things are right now, that whole list thing got me to thinking. I don't have any regrets in my life or anything like that.

But there are certain things that I still want to do, you know what I mean? And, you know, we're in quarantine and it doesn't seem like, you know, it doesn't feel like we're gonna get out of this anytime soon, you know what I mean? Not to sound morbid or dark or anything like that. But when JD brings up the list and she's like, I've done all of those things already, it really made me think like, well, you know,

when this is over, I'm gonna make sure that I get out and I live a lot more than I did before, you know, when this is over, I'm going to make sure that I get out and I live a lot more than I did before. You know what I mean? Well, that's interesting. I mean, this quarantine thing, I agree. I think it gives you perspective. And I've just been focusing on gratitude a lot because I just think that like, when all this is so insane, and it makes you focus on how lucky we are and what we want to appreciate in life. You know, the simple things like being able to go to a restaurant with friends and laugh and have a drink and I don't know.

It's interesting you say that. So have you made a list, Donald? Are you making lists of things you want to do? I'm going to start a list. I know a lot of it has to do with my kids and making sure that they get to experience a lot of the things that I didn't experience when I was young. I try to do that now, but I feel like maybe I need to go a little bit overboard and then have my wife tell me, we need to dial it back a little bit.

We're going too far. There's certain things that my kids have never done that, and that's because I don't do it, you know what I mean? And I don't want to do that to them. I want them to have that experience and that adventure. I feel like it's also because we don't know when this is over. We don't know how long we're going to be doing this for, and it doesn't seem to be short. Obviously, it sounds like, until we have a vaccine, who knows how long

this chunk of our lives is and what it looks like and whether it opens back up. I feel like as impossible it is, it is and has tried as it's like trying to be in the moment and trying to figure out what like the rare times with them that I have now that are so hard to get in like in the everyday. Think about how much time you spend in the car, driving them to activities, doing whatever. And when work takes over and that becomes so all consuming, and I feel like as much of it is that we can squeeze out just here, like just sitting with them. Like I was reading something the other day saying, people are worried about their kids getting behind in education.

What if they actually came out ahead? And I thought that was such a cool way to look at it. Kids, this is going to form who they are and who they become. What if they actually start to appreciate the small things that we're starting to appreciate right now instead of just the grind of everyday life? What if they actually learn to do meaningful chores at home and learn the value in that and learn how to actually be- I hear you.

The only thing I worry about with all of that is their social skills when this is all said and done. That's the only thing I worry about. But yeah, we got this kid reading. She's on sight words and we're trying to get her to read and stuff like that. And we're working with math and all of that stuff. But at the end of the day, it's like, you know, there's something special about being around other children their age to interact with, you know what I mean?

It's so true. I know my heart breaks for only kids who are, you know, having to go through this right now with no kids to play with. It's really hard. The show ends with Hallelujah by John Cale, which has been covered by lots of folks. I thought this was a particularly beautiful rendition. And again, I think it was the first real time I noticed the show ending with a sweet, somber, uplifting song in a beautiful way, cutting to the montage. And I wrote Town, I got goosebumps at 2014 when we all three whip our heads around. Yeah, revealing that we've all, it's not one in three, in this case the odds have fallen, so we've lost three of three.

I got goosebumps up and down my arms at that moment. I thought that was really beautifully done. Absolutely. So shocking when that happens, right? Like as a viewer, I think you're not expecting that. You're kind of waiting for that statistic that they set up at the beginning. And then we end the show. And this is what I was saying a few episodes before. Sarah, you weren't here for this. But it's really important for doctors to be able to pick

themselves back up after something like this happens. And it's also very important that this happens to these young doctors at an early time. So they do know how to set up boundaries and do know how to set up walls to help them be professional. It's tragic that it has to be death that does it. But yeah, to lose someone you care about and then show up the next day at that job, it's very difficult. I can't imagine it. I find it difficult to watch,

and it's very difficult to experience, I would imagine. And that piece of it's so cool that the show kind of goes that right after with Turk going back and introducing himself to the patient, JD taking the time to go be on the grass, Elliot kind of figuring out how to take charge. And that was kind of cool too, Johnny's conversation with Elliot

when he says you made the right call, you did. And she says, I know. And I didn't remember that. And when I saw that, just sort of having her take that confident position. Yeah, that was really powerful. I was really powerful, I thought. Okay.

Listen guys, we did it. We did, I'm so glad, Sarah, we had you because we wanted to have you on this one because we all keep saying this was a very special episode for all of us. And thank you for coming on. And I hope, you know, we're having fun doing this. I hope that, Donald and I both hope that you'll come as many times as you're willing to and rewatch the show with us.

I loved it. It was so fun. It was so fun to do. So is that a yes? Was that a yes? That was a very non-committal yes. That was a very odd... That is, I'm in. You just, you know where I am, guys. I'm not doing anything. How do you say goodbye in Canadian, Sarah? I think it's goodbye. Goodbye.

Goodbye. Wait, is it something like au revoir? Au revoir. That's French. That's well, you know, there's a lot of them speak French up there, Donald. Oh. That's a bilingual country here, guys.

Is it? Yes. On that note, Donald, if you'll lead us in song. Why I gotta be Donald? Why I can't I lead us in song? Zara, you can lead us in song. We will now, Donald, count us in please. One, two. I prefer when you count down like Debbie Robinson. Five. Okay, you got big dreams. Yeah, you want fame. You take the monologue this time. Well, fame costs. And right here is where you start paying. Is wet. Five, six, seven, eight.

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