Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - Real Friends Classic: 108 - My Fifteen Minutes with Judy Reyes

Episode Date: February 28, 2025

JD and Turk save a cameraman's life in this week's episode. But Turk doesn't like when he's made to be the poster minority for the hospital. In real life, Donald and Zach are joined by Carla, aka Judy Reyes.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Holy cow. I got so many things to say. I got so many things to say. I'm so excited about this episode, Zach. You have no idea. This is a big episode. This is a very good episode, by the way. Judy came for a good one. Yeah. Not only is it a big episode, but this is... Listen, man, I feel like I didn't know what I had when I had it. You know what I mean? Carla and Turk. Carla and Turk, oh my gosh, oh my gosh. You want to talk about a good relationship on television and you want to talk about a relationship, especially at the time that we were filming it. I really needed a relationship like that.

Granted, I found the woman of my dreams. She lives in the same house as me. She's downstairs right now watching our children. But when I think of Turk and Carla, I'm, I think of Carla and you too, Judy, as like an ex of mine, even though it was just work, even though we were working together. It's like I have so many fond memories, and I ruined it. And I spoiled it by the show going off the air.

Oh! I mean, and then we were no longer together. And I don't see her anymore. So when you see Judy now, do you have the feeling of like- I get the vapors. As Bismarcky said, I caught the vapors. Oh my God. When I'm watching Scrubs now, I'm like, oh my gosh, he's so fine. What was I thinking? What did I do? How did I let that go? That's okay. Carla always knew it. Yeah. What do I have to do to get this guy to see what he has? Well, he always, he always, and she always said it right? Carla always says like, if only when is he going to love me the way he loves JD?

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Why don't you properly introduce your TV show wife. Is stupendous the right word? Yeah, stupendous. Stupendous. Fantastic. The fantastic, the legend that is Judy Reyes on Fake Doctors and Real Friends today. We're so excited about it.

Give it up. Well, thank you for the incredible introduction. This is where we insert thunderous applause, Judy. I'm at a loss of words. You have no idea how excited I am that you are here. I'm excited for you guys. I'm excited for the show. You guys got bumped up to two shows a week. I can't even catch up.

Well, we've been having fun. We never thought anyone would really listen. We thought it would be maybe our parents. Donald's mom doesn't even listen. My mom's never, I don't think she's ever listened to, you know how I know she hasn't listened? You know how I know she hasn't listened? This is how I know she hasn't listened. I'm excited for you guys.

I'm excited for the show. You guys got bumped up to two shows a week. I can't even catch up. Well, we've been having fun. We never thought anyone would really listen. We thought it would be maybe our parents. Donald's mom doesn't even listen. My mom's mom, I don't think she's ever listened to. You know how I know she hasn't listened? You know how I know she hasn't listened?

This is how I know she hasn't listened. Because I'll be like, mom, and I've already said on the podcast, I don't think my mom ever listens to the show, right? I was like, mom, have you listened to the podcast? She's like, yeah, I listen to it all the time. And the way I know that she hasn't, she hasn't been like, she hasn't called me and been like, I listen to your podcast. She has no idea. Yo, isn't that the story of the show? It was like, congratulations, but nobody's watched the show until like 20 years later. When I was like a legend, television folklore where everybody's like, Oh my God, you don't understand. I grew up on your show. And then it's like,

wow, okay. Right. When you hear that, it's like, well, how come y'all didn't show up in the ratings then, if that's the case? Well, they did in the beginning. I was just looking back. This is back in 2001, there was no streaming competition and people actually did watch the show. I mean, there were a lot of people watching the show in the beginning, especially... We always joked that we barely survived, that we were always moving around time slots and everything. But this was still at a time when, Joelle, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think like 11 million people or something

were watching these episodes. Yeah, when we followed. Correct! Yeah, when we followed Frasier, we were at 11 or 10 million. But when the season two or three, when we started following Friends, at one point we had like 27 million people watching our show.

I don't know, but it's just so funny, you never get, no one ever gets numbers like that anymore. But back in 2001, you could have 11 million people people watching our show. I don't know, but it's just so funny. No one ever gets numbers like that anymore. But back in 2001, you could have 11 million people watch your TV show. Well, because there were only three television networks. There was ABC, NBC, CBS, and Fox, and then Showtime and HBO. So there were only a certain number of shows that you could watch.

And now, like we were saying before, people are actually coming to us and texting us and through social media, letting us know that we live, particularly in these times that our show literally changed their lives and influenced and affected the choices that they made for a living. And that's really, really moving. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, you're absolutely right. It feels so warm and fuzzy inside when you read your comments and you post a picture of your kids and stuff like that. And they're like, that don't look like Carla. Ha ha ha ha.

Yeah, Donald always gets harassed. I'm always like, I'm always. Donald gets harassed. That don't look like Carla had them kids. That's why I'm always like, wow, the show hits so hard and so many people that when I post pictures of my family or I post pictures of us during holiday, the first thing that comes up, that don't look like Carla.

We're turkette, we're turkette. When I started working in out of state, which is right after Scrubs where all shows are being shot like in Vancouver or Atlanta or New Orleans. Right. So, Judy, wait, I was going to say, Donald, if you don't mind, Judy, we've been asking everyone that comes on the show, all the cast members, their audition story, because I think listeners are, I imagine, interested in that. I hope they're interested in that. But maybe, I don't really know yours. I know Donald and Sarah's, so I'd love to hear your

story about how the script initially came to you and what your audition process was like. In New York, you know, I was working. I had done, gosh, I don't know, I'd done like, this must have been like my seventh pilot audition. I'd done about six pilots before this that never went, that never got picked up. So by the time I got to this one, I was just like, ready for it not to go as well,

but it was such a good pilot. And Carla had these two great monologues in the pie in the pilot one here where I Go off right and when I go off on on dr. Cox And I was you know I was part of a theater company and I was just so prepared to just nail it and walk out and get up and I got You know you get a free free flight to LA It's saying a fancy hotel but the most important thing was to just like work on it really hard and go out, get out of the room feeling good.

Wait, you weren't living in, you weren't living in Los Angeles at the time? No, no, I was in New York. I was living in New York. Was your first audition at 30 Rock or something for Steve Noenall? Yeah, my first audition was at 30 Rock and I did really well. And all I just kept getting was this feedback from my manager, Gene Foxx, your manager was- Yes, yes, not at this time. Not during this, but you-

Not at this time, but yes, but we did have the same manager back in the day, yeah. When we were younger, right? Because she mostly represented kids and I always played really young and earlier in my career. But I remember being really excited to get this flight to LA and staying in a fancy hotel and all this stuff. And I remember somebody giving me a note

that tells like, before you start your scene, just take a breath and look at everybody in the room and then start. That's good advice. Hey, and I really did. And I fell and there were like think three other women. Did you know them anyway? I didn't know anybody.

I just remember who was the casting director for that. I knew the casting director because I auditioned him all the time. I didn't even know any of the actresses, which was strange because all Latina actresses know each other. I think I was the only one from LA who was flown in. I felt like I had a really good chance,

but I didn't attach myself to anything. What scenes did you do? Do you remember what scenes you did from the pilot? All the scenes that Carla had, which was like the one where I go, he hits on me. And the one to Dr. Cox. I don't remember any of this stuff. Don't worry, don't worry,

darling, I don't remember anything either. I watched this episode that we're talking about twice. Yes, same here. Because I remember it, what I remember it is like in the first season I had this one big episode with you where we go to see the photography exhibit that's called My Nickname. And I was sure that that's the one

we were going to talk about today. Like, wait a minute, we're not doing My Nickname? No. No, one day Judy will get more organized and book people for the times they have their big episode. But I think you have a really nice arc in this episode. No, I do. And that's why I watched it.

I was like, this is really great. I'm excited to talk about it. We just wanted to have you on. But I remember taking that moment and looking at all these people. In my head, I was like, fuck, there's a lot of people in here. And I looked at all of them. I was like, no pressure, right?

And they just fell out laughing at Bill, the loudest. And I felt really relaxed. And I just, they laughed at every single thing I did. And I was like, I'm fine. And I walked to the elevator. And before I got to the elevator, the casting and those, oh, I wanted to tell you something, hold on a second. Before they call the other girl in,

I was like, you're good. I was like, you're good. I was like, Oh, Oh, shit. Like when you like, as you're leaving, do you remember if it was Brett or Debbie, one of those two? Yeah. And she took you aside. She took me aside at the elevator. I was like, amazing. You're being good. And I wasn't sure what that meant. But I was

like, and by the time I got to the airport, I was like, you got it. Wow, that's so awesome. Oh my God. So on your way back, how much did you drink? In celebration. I was like, they were like, do you want a champagne or orange juice? Or I was like, can I have them both in one glass?

She's like, I'm emotional. I was like, yeah, that's it. Give me one of those. And I was like, you want it all? I was like, yeah, I want another one. Oh, man. That's amazing. And then so you had to go back to, well, it was just the pilot. So I guess you weren't planning on moving.

You just kind of came out for the pilot then? Came out for the pilot. And then by the time we got picked up, it was a couple of hours later. So do you remember upfront at all? I got, didn't I get hammered at all? We all did. We all did. But that's what I'm asking.

I remember, I remember being a swing. Dono told this story where you were on it, but it was more than a swing. You guys, it was like a trapeze type thing. For some reason, this bar we were in had a trapeze in it, which is really not safe. I want to swing and my ex-husband had to take me home. Yes. I remember, who was the executive tall guy, and he had a snot on his nose, and I was like, you got a booger.

And you were like, and Bill was so impressed, it was like, you're the only person I know who would tell like the head of a network that he has booger on his nose. I was like, but wouldn't you, wouldn't you want to know that you have booger on your nose? I love that on one side of that party, Donald's giving Jeff Zucker a noogie. On the other side of the party, you're telling another executive he has a booger on his nose. And Bill had told us all like, guys, do not get too drunk at this party. There's going to be important executives here.

We got wasted. Sarah was wasted. Wasted. Do you remember her famous phrase, Judy, at that party? She walked up to the... You guys ever had a cosmopolitan? Oh, they're so good. I was like, I want to try one.

I don't remember which... She was walking sideways. I just remember. She like on a diagonal. I told her, I was like, I like martinis. You know how my friend Richie Pretorcelli says about martinis? Martinis are like tits. One's not enough, three's too many.

I want that on a t-shirt. Right. I want that on a t-shirt. What was your first impression of meeting Donald? You knew he was going to be your love interest. Did you meet him at the table read thing that we did at Bill's house? Did I go to the table read thing? Maybe because you flew in. I flew in, so I didn't go. So where did you meet Donald?

On set. I met him on set. That's what I told you this story, dude. Like what? I want to hear it from Judy. Okay. The story that we had that- Makeout scene.

We had the makeout scene. Right. And you had smoked cigarettes right before it. Donald's already complained that you were smoking. Yes, and of course, okay. But since then we've smoked so many cigarettes together. We have. Oh my gosh. But what I do remember is that we had that make out scene

and I was completely, I felt Donald is Donald. What you see is what you get. He's the sweetest, kindest, relaxed, but very professional guy, right? And I felt very comfortable with Donald and we had this make out scene. And I don't think that I'd ever had a kissing scene like that before where,'re just making out.

And I stuck my tongue in his mouth. Yeah, dude, there are things. And then he went and bragged to everybody. You did that a lot. You, yo. And then Donald started, well, Judy, didn't Donald start walking around bragging to everyone like, I got tongue?

But the first time I did it, the first time I did it. Right away. Right away. Like immediately. But he told like the whole fucking thing and then he ruined it for nine years for the whole time the rest of it the rest no but I should have because I was embarrassed I was embarrassed this motherfucker goes it goes yo you suck your tongue in my mouth I wasn't supposed to do that. I didn't know I was. Oh. Oh.

Oh. Oh. Oh. So Donald, you in one moment, you have this beautiful woman. She's giving you a first onscreen kiss. The chance of alignment. You blab about it, and then you never got tongue again, did you? Well, no.

She did it a couple of times. Hold on now. No, I didn't. Yeah, you did. You're a liar. You're a liar. I could show you the episode, because I remember one episode. Show it to me. We're making out, you did. I could show you the episode because I remember one episode we're making out and the girl I was dating at the time was like, well, this is awkward.

And it was like the scene where we're supposed to be making out is supposed to be a wet, sloppery kiss and stuff like that. And JD even says something about that, about our making out. Well, because it's scripted right but you know what wasn't that wasn't that wasn't that guys mature slower than than girls do it's just that simple women mature faster i just remember thinking like oh i would never rat it out i just remember thinking like donald that's not gonna i just remember thinking like that's not gonna end well donald no it didn't it didn't end well immediately. No but I was really embarrassed about it because it was it was uh it's just instinctual I was like okay.

So before Donald before Donald ruined it it was a good kiss I imagine. It was a good kiss I'm a great kisser. Oh shit Donald you fucked up. I did fuck up. I fucked up. This many years later you're still pissed about listen, like I said, I look back at it now like what was I thinking dude? What a dummy listen the whole crew was was like, what are you thinking? Yeah, I know It's like that thing in scrubs where they get the opera singer who goes mister scrubs where they get the opera singer who goes, Mr. Kevin Sorbo's that Kevin Sorbo story. Have you heard that? No.

Which one is that one? You know how they put in parentheses, the direction that you're supposed to do. And then underneath it usually is the line. Yeah. The parenthetical. Right. And in that it said disappointed, that was like the last thing underneath the line that he has. So like the line was something like, this isn't my world.

This isn't my place. And then in that thing, it says, it says disappointed. So he's supposed to say all of this disappointed. And he is trying to figure out a way to muster up the disappointment. Now this is all folklore. This is all this, this might not be true. And he's trying to figure out a way to muster it up. He goes, disappointed!

I love those Hollywood stories where you hear something and some actor said, you have no idea if it's true or not, but they're funny to hear. I know one with Christina Ricci, apparently she was, I have no, again, I have no idea if this is true or not, but they're funny to hear. I know one with Christina Ricci, apparently, she was... Again, I have no idea if this is true, but I heard this story that she was getting all this direction, the director was going into all this elaborate stuff and she looked at him and said, look, more happy or more sad? The end of the day, right? Which when you think about it, it's pretty great, it's pretty... Let's just break it all down. Do

you want it more happy or do you want it more sad? That's very Wednesday of her. Yeah. I don't want to hear your elaborate... Your direction's so confusing. Do you want me happier or sadder? But at the end of the day, that's very Carla and Turk, isn't it? It's like, what are you doing? You just ruined it for the rest of our relationship. Well, you two had such a great relationship on the show, and I think so many people were genuinely invested in you two, which is just such a testament to how good your chemistry

was and of course, how good both of your performances were. But just so cute also, just so... Carla and Turk together was like, that's definite relationship goals for me. If my relationship is like that, it's so much so that it kind of is like that when you really when you really think about it You know, my wife is the boss of this, you know what I mean? Carla was the boss, you know what I mean all the way up into how she made the guy ask her out You know what? I mean, she got him to the point where he was, she offered sex to him and he declined. You know what I mean?

He declined because he was afraid to ruin the relationship because he saw where it was going, you know what I mean? And that's just so. Particularly in this episode where Carla fucks up so bad and she goes to Turk where he's exemplary more that where Carla talks a lot and she She's just strong, but she falls apart and she goes to him and she sees what he does You know he walks the walk and she just does what he does at the end of the day, you know And she sees she sees how strong Turk is as well, and she goes by his example.

Judy, do you think that you... I mean, I'm sure this has come up for you, I hear it all the time, that you inspired a lot of people to become nurses, which must be a pretty incredible thing because when I watched the show, especially now back and having some experience in hospitals with sick family members, I'm so aware of the power of the nurses and how the nurses are running the whole show. And to me, when I rewatched this, Carla was just, just the exemplar of, of, of the most amazing nurse there ever was. And I just wonder what your experience of, of people, men and women, coming up to you and saying you may have inspired them to go into it.

I think that's true. I don't know what the haste. I think that people who may have been considering a career in medicine They got that extra push from seeing a character like Carla and a Loma and a show like scrubs Do you know what I mean? And the strength of someone like that and and the true power of those of those people in that profession Do you know what I mean where people find find the glory in the doctors, for example, that they don't know that you cannot have those doctors without the nurses. I remember having that conversation with Bill one time

where he wanted to explore the idea of Carla wanting to pursue a career as a doctor. And I was like, no, I wasn't because it's like I think Carla loves being a nurse Yeah, I love you know That's where her strength and her power and her vanity and her ego live and I think that she's really okay with that Do you know what I mean? And and the dynamics of the relationships with every with her and everyone in the hospital Are strongest there? You know what I mean? And that there's nothing wrong with that.

And her viewing audience, and for me as a Latina, all these Latinas find strength and, there's a lot of a huge force with people and women and women of color in particular, and particularly at that time. I wanted to segue, you just, Joel. That's a great segue into this episode, actually. It is. And also, I just want to point out Joelle, because she's such a good producer,

sent me this statement, sent us this. The Annenberg Inclusion Initiative at the University of Southern California released a study in 2019 that said, quote, Latino actors represented only 3% of lead or co-lead roles in top performing movies during the last 12 years. This is movies not TV but it's the same thing. What impression do you think Carla left on your community? Which I thought was a really smart question that I have to give Joelle a credit for. I think it left a huge impression. I get it again I get it all the time and I think people built on it. A lot of roles were designed on Carla as a result.

A lot of strong sassy roles as a result of that. But not, I mean, you weren't a caricature in any sense. Not in any sense. Yeah, I thought it was a testament to the writing. Absolutely. And you obviously. And I think it's been challenging to find characters and roles that have Been as strong and as memorable since you know

I know it's hard for me to find roles that have been as strong and as memorable since and and for me to find you just like you were talking and and that the the podcast that I was listening with you guys and bill is that people want like a Phase on type of character, but built on, because that's the power and the force of a very well written, very well acted show, where you're trying to just build on

the kind of actor that you are, but move past that is a real challenge because it's hard to find well written roles. But yeah, and the discussions and the arguments and the debates that you have with the writers to keep it real and keep it honest, keep it flawed, keep it complicated, which is all that Bill and the writers responded to really honestly, you know? And Bill responded to what I said, yeah, let's keep her a nurse because, you know, that's where the challenges in a hospital environment live.

And he was really respectful of your input, I think. All right, we're going to go to commercial because that's what we're supposed to do, Donald. I thought we were going to go into the episode. We're going to, but I'm seeing a chat from these producers. This is like the longest- Do you ever look at the chat thing? We're supposed to be talking about the show though.

I know, bro, but listen, Judy is entertaining as hell and we're gonna go into it. I'm not saying it's her fault. I'm saying- Why are you yelling at all of us? It feels like you're mad. No one's yelling. No one's yelling. I'm just saying the format's all fucked up. We'll be right back.

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He's bad. I was like, he's drinking iced tea. No, Judy, Donald, I'm a little worried because we're only like eight episodes in and Donald has taken the day drinking. Only on shoot days, only on shoot days. I have a feeling by the time we get to like episode 20, he's gonna be like hammered like, and another thing. He's gonna be screaming by episode eight. Well.

He'll be like, what? And then. His shirt will be off? His shirt will be off? Do you remember that time, Judy, we were all at a bar? Oh, no. I won't tell the whole story. I won't tell the whole story.

But all I know is that Donnelly got drunk enough so that his shirt was off in the bar. It was an ice bar, too. It was an ice bar. So there's a room where you go in and it's nothing but ice. And I went in that room shirtless and drank. No, but you were walking around the park. I mean, this was just hilarious. Now I think about it.

It was, it was our whole cast and crew and we were all partying. I don't know if it was a rap thing or whatever, but all of a sudden I look over and Don was drunk enough so that he was like having animated discussions without his shirt on in the bar. The fact that you remember that I did some stupid things and my then girlfriend now wife Showed up to surprise me and I was acting a fool at the bar. Oh, that was Oh, yeah, it's such a good story about I don't know

I don't know. Can you ask Casey if we can have permission? Maybe we'll tell on a later episode. Yeah, I'll ask her. Yeah. But in the meantime, just know that Donald got in trouble and also had his shirt off. Oh my gosh. Do you remember the time Donald got in trouble? That's like every- That's a lot. That happened a lot. That's what I'm saying. Every, every episode when he got in trouble and took off-

Oh my God. Said part of clothing. Yeah. And when Donald would take his clothes off and then if he got drunk and got in trouble and took off. Oh my God. Said part of clothing. Yeah, and when Donald would take his clothes off, and then if he got to the next level drunk, he'd leave angrily. And sometimes he'd leave angrily with no shirt on. Yeah, right. Yo, dude, that hat, oh my God.

That's just Donald the nudist. You need a show. He once walked home so mad, we won't go into this story either. No, we won't go into this one either. But all I'm gonna say is that he walked, we both lived at the time in the Hollywood Hills, and he once walked home, walked home, no shirt on.

From La Brea and Melrose. Up into the Hollywood Hills. There's no sidewalks. People don't walk where Donald... Oh, I know. I live in the hills. This is where Donald walked. And he was power walking, arms flying, mad naked.

Not naked. Well, I wasn't naked, but he was power walking like arms flying, mad, naked. Well, I wasn't naked, but I was mad. Yeah. You're really mad. That's a long walk. Yeah, it's a long story. It's a long, long story. Some of these stories we have to censor.

Should we get into the episode? Sure. We should totally get into the episode. Let's do it. I just wanted to say the first thing that I noticed is that Donald's CPR at 48 seconds would not bring anyone back to life, But I just want to say something. It was a real human being. I'm not allowed to touch on that person's chest like that. I know. I want to tell the audience that it's a tricky thing to give fake CPR,

because if you do CPR for real, you can kill someone. So when you watch horrible TV and movie CPR, it sometimes looks like this. But I just wanted to say that I thought you did a particularly bad job. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Let's move on. Wasn't the real JD there at the time on set to approve the failure?

I'm sure. But if you look at fake CPR all throughout medical TV shows, there's different techniques. Some people just completely bend their elbows, so none of the pressure goes down on the person's sternum. I don't know what Donald's doing here, but maybe JD had an emergency. Maybe he was hungover from that power walk. I don't know why this is a highlight of this podcast today. Buddy, I'm just saying, next time you do fake CPR on one of your projects, you can do better, I believe in you.

Okay. Let's talk about the holy inferiority complex, Batman. This is one of some people's favorite fantasies. You know what I wrote down when I saw that? What? 111. Batman, Robin, Starsky, and Hutch, Han and Chewie, Han and Luke, Turk and JD.

Are you putting us up there? I'm saying we are ultimate, ultimate dynamic duo. I want to say that, you know, there are certain things that come up all the time in Scrubs fan favorite things. They send us gifts or they send, or I see them on the interwebs. And this episode has a few of them actually, but this Batman holy and inferiority complex is one of them, I think. It's great because then you bumped into, at least you're not Alfred and then you're the Alfred kick. Damn you. Damn you. Damn you. Damn you. That was my best Adam West impersonation ever too.

I don't think I could ever, like, you know, people are like, do Neil Diamond. I think my Adam West impersonation was better than my Neil Diamond. It could be worse, Robin. Your mask is so funny. I just have it frozen on 117. And I know that we weren't allowed to do the exact costume again, because it's parody. It has to have a little twist on it.

But your mask is so funny. It's like Mardi Gras mask. It's like a Mardi Gras mask. I didn't know what it was. It was, it's like a Mardi Gras- It's so funny too, because those were the days too, whenever we had to do the Scrubs fantasies or whatever, where we was like, oh, are they doing the fantasy?

And everybody would run down from their dressing rooms and come see everybody dress up and do the costumes and the fantasies. And I'd be like, I was like, when do I get to do that? You actually get one, Judy. One thing I noticed, Judy, at 323, you are, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, you weren't often in the fantasies. No.

But this is one, because I don't know why we can talk about that, but this was one of the early times where you were in there doing that throwing stars thing. And I'll tell you, because I was also listening to, when I was listening to the Bill podcast, I remember how Bill always warned us not to go and talk to him about including or because you would get fazed on I'm terrified of talking to him about shit like that it would be like you know because he would always let me know this and then your character would be carrying the gravitas of the show and I was like, but um, I'm funny. God damn it. I'd be worried about it.

It's like, how do I talk to this man about the fact that I'm funny and I want like a fantasy and you know, or I want more jokes and shit, you know? And those would be like, and I would literally sometimes be in my dressing room, like trying not to cry because I'm about to confront Bill about wanting another joke or wanting this or wanting that because I wouldn't want to be fazoned or some shit. So what would you do? Would you give yourself a bit of a pep talk?

Oh my God, yeah. And I would like cry in my room before, you know, I'd be pulling like an Elliot in my room. Yeah, I'd freak out, you know. And was he receptive? He was receptive. He was receptive. I think, I mean, I have no idea what his reasoning was, but it sounds like, just from hearing

you recount it, that Carla was always the base of the reality and the gravitas in the drama. So he didn't want her going into being too silly. But it's funny in this episode, you do have some funny ass shit, I think. Totally. I like the ninja stuff. That was funny.

Yeah, that was very funny. Walking in with your girlfriend, laughing and everything and then getting caught out there. Yeah, getting busted. Which I loved. Yeah, I was gonna say, I didn't recall, to be honest, I don't recall a lot of, I say this every podcast, I don't recall a lot of Scrubs when watching it.

But I didn't recall that you and Elliot had such a rocky start. I always thought that you guys had a great relationship. But do you remember when it switched to where you guys became? Was it early on because like even in this episode you're totally? Dissing her you know you like you know and it seems like it's always that way she puts her foot in her mouth And you're like I got to get the hell away from this person Carla's like I got to get the hell away on the beginning Sarah was pretty disrespectful to Carla You know like she you know so I think I would imagine, I mean, obviously I want to know your answer,

but my impression was that she was still feeling resentful towards, towards Elliot, right? I think so. And I think it's more like she, she doesn't get it and she never will. You know what I mean? And I think it's JD's impulse always to just like smooth things over and fix things and help other people understand that she's really not just awkward.

She's always screwing things up, just like, you know, trying to help people understand or explain people to other people. You know what I mean? And I've just, I got no time for this. Do you recall when it switched over to Carla being that person for? Elliot you know what I mean where Carla was making excuses for all this is just the way she is Did it ever switch over to that or was Carla out always I don't I mean I I really don't I know I know what happened in this episode. I don't know it did well in this episode

Even after you're like you can I'm I did that, we all know the truth. Right. No, nobody wanna hang out with Elliot. Exactly. Especially when she's rocking a neckerchief. Did you see that neckerchief? And the khakis. I thought that was really funny. That moment, it's around 526 or so, when you guys are walking and you're going out outfits and she's got

her khakis and her little like Scooby Doo, what's the character in Scooby Doo that has the neckerchief? It was so random. Fred. Yeah, that was her going out outfit. So sanitary. And then she puts her foot in her mouth with your friend. Yes.

Because she has a son, right? Yeah, she has a son who's like really young and she's like, wow, way to rob the cradle. I'm gonna be honest with you. I had a lot of issues with this episode as far as stereotypes go. And I know this is the episode with stereo, about stereotypes and everything like that.

Right. But there's just so many things that, you know, one of the lines Turk says in the show is like, you know, all my whole life, people always assume that I'm a good athlete. That I, uh, that I, that I, uh, uh, was it, I'm a good athlete. I grew up poor and, uh, I love Sanford and son.

Those things are kind of true about me. At the end of the day, I'm a pretty decent athlete. I didn't grow up with a lot of money and I truly love Sanford and Son. But it's the obvious exploitation of those things and trying to make money off of that shit. Absolutely. Absolutely. There's a lot of deep things that we talk about in this episode. You touched on it earlier, and that's why we're saying it was such a great segue into this episode. People of color don't go to hospitals or don't go to the doctor. My opinion is because they don't see themselves when they go. They see a bunch of other colors when they go, and that can be very scary.

We touch on it in this episode, but I feel like, yeah, I understand why Turk's upset because his face is plastered and he's being exploited to try and bring a hip new crowd into the hospital and everything like that. But there's something deeper in that. One, I didn't know that Sacred Heart was in the inner city. I had no idea that it was an inner city hospital, one.

You didn't this whole time? This whole time. There's so, listen, when you the inner city. I had no idea that it was an inner city hospital, one. You didn't this whole time? This whole time. There's so, listen, when you say- Because there's hardly any people of color in the hospital. Right, in the hospital, you know what I mean? And at the end of the day, this was something that really struck home with me. We talk about COVID now and how people you know, people of color are, are, are a very high percentage of people that are dying because we have so many underlying conditions and stuff like that. But a lot of that has to do with being

afraid to go to the doctor or to the hospital because when you go there, they're either going to give you bad news or you're going to die. You know what I mean? And I feel like it's so prevalent in this episode. You know what I mean? You know, we talk about it in this episode in a small way, but that's what I took away from this. My takeaway from this was, you know, it's more than just Turk being exploited. It has everything to do with, you know, how can we make health care better for people of color? But my first thing was, wow, I wish we truthfully need to figure out this health care system when it comes to the stigmatism that people of color have when they go to a hospital. When I finished the episode, I was like, okay,

the lesson is nobody wants to be taken advantage of and stand up for yourself and everything like that. I was like, but there's something deeper in that. Also, where the hell did this kid and I get this imaginary football from- I just started laughing at that too. To talk to each other at the end of the show. I was laughing at that too. I was like, so wait a second, you were stitching them up in an OR and then all of a sudden there's a football? Was it on the shelf? How did this happen?

By the way, and that story is pretty glossed over too. It's like, you got knifed, yeah. You got stabbed. Yeah, you got stabbed in the arm, yeah. Let's toss a ball. Let's play football now. You know what I mean? And that's when I was sitting there, I was like, this is some stereotypical bullshit. Yeah, he got knifed in the arm. And you were then making some joke like, this is some stereotypical bullshit. Yeah, he got knifed in the arm. And you were then making some joke like, oh, I got this from, what was your joke?

Oh, my injury's from this. A pencil or some shit like that. Yeah. Anyway, here, Jim, here's a ball. Yeah, let's play catch. Let's play catch. Let's have a catch in the OR. That wrestling fantasy was pretty funny, I think.

I love that. I'm going to probe you. I'm going to probe you. I'm going to probe you. Because I'm the intern. I was so excited to do that. I liked pro wrestling when I was a kid. JD Macho Man Savage. I accidentally freeze framed at 706 and I think it might be the most unattractive shot

of me in Scrubs history. It was like this wide angle lens and I'm all up close to it with my giant nose. And your hair like show enough. You had hair like show enough from the last dragon too. By the way, I like my hair like that. I was really enjoying it. I mean, the wig extension, whatever it is, I think that they did a good job because I wish I could rock hair like that.

My hair would never do that. It wouldn't? No, it wouldn't be so glorious as that. Neither would mine. No, you have beautiful curly hair. I'm looking at it right now. Yeah, my hair wouldn't be all straight and shit. Judy, talking about that bar scene at 8.04, do you remember shooting that?

When you show up and Sarah's drinking alone, do you remember shooting that? And that woman that you worked with, I'm sorry, I don't know her name. You probably don't remember her name either, but I thought she did a good job. No, she was super sweet. And I do remember like the whole idea of doing that scene. I just loved the idea of fucking up on someone so badly, and just being so uncomfortable around someone that you would-

Hide under a table? Yeah. Hide under a table. Do you know what I mean? And having to try to find ways to just completely avoid them because you screwed up so badly. And how I'm telling Turk, you're such a guy and you don't fucking understand what's going on. And then JD comes and I'm so sorry what I did. And they apologize to each other like nothing happened. Do you think that that's a good,

what do you think the commentary is there that like men can communicate with each other? I mean, what, I laughed at that, but then I was thinking like, well, what is the social commentary there? Just that Turk and JD have such a close relationship and they know how to communicate? I think so. I think they already apologized to each other, but they want to say,

listen, I hope you got me. I'm really sorry for what happened. I didn't mean it. I know that you didn't mean it as cool. You know what I mean? Just right after. And I think she realizes like, shit, I really just have to go confront her. Where she's trying to avoid it. I think, you know, guys, but these guys, they're so, they're such good friends that they're going to, they're not gonna do that to their friendship. You know, and he's, and Turk is looking off

and then, you know, we're getting there. She's looking at him like, you know, go fuck yourself. And then we did that, there's some sound effect on our fist bump that's like this angelic noise. That's really funny. Hit me. Yeah, hit me. You know, their friendship is healed and by no means a friendship and Aloma and I love that whole and the whole nurse thing with like Aloma being in the, JD seeking his fucking evaluations so desperately from Cox.

I think fits into that story so well. He's asking from Aloma and Dr. Cox is there. He's like, can't you see I'm watching my story? Yeah. I remember that whole, my stories thing being so hilarious during that episode. I do remember and everybody's like quoting it all over the place.

Aloma was so funny. You could just give her anything and she would be fine with it. She's just like one line and she's just Magical. Yeah, she comes and um what Carla didn't give Elliot Laverne gave her you know, it was what Aloma Wright played so beautifully It's because she just gives her she goes why so sad marshmallow and then she gives her a little hot chocolate A little marshmallow did marshmallow stick did marshmallow stick it did. I think it did. Yeah She goes, why so sad, Marshmallow? And then she gives her a little hot chocolate, a little Marshmallow. Did Marshmallow stick?

Did Marshmallow stick? It did. It did. I think it did, yeah. Do you think Carla and Nurse Roberts were friends outside of work? Yes. Yeah, absolutely. 100%. Yeah.

That story never got told. I want to see the Nurse Roberts, Carla Vegas trip. Totally. Did Aloma ever go with us to Vegas? Did she go with us to Vegas for the rap party? I don't think so. I think Aloma was religious and she wasn't... She was like, I'm staying away from that. Jesus will not be there. I know that. I think she would have gone. She would have been at the slot machine the whole time, but she... Do you remember that Vegas trip? Yeah. We went twice. Do you know that? She would have been at the slot machine the whole time, but she would have been good.

Do you remember that Vegas trip? Yeah. We went twice. Do you know that? I don't know. I do. Yeah. We went for one time, we went for like a birthday and then another time we went for, am I wrong?

I might be wrong. I don't know. Well, we definitely went to shoot the thing with the Blue Man group and then we stayed and had a party, right? Yeah. No, that was the rap party. Was the rap party and the Blue Man group thing the same trip?

No. There were two trips to Vegas. There were like three or four trips to Vegas, dude. Oh, God, what a good deal. Great deal. I wanna say- That's another question. When's the last time any of you have been to Vegas?

I don't think it's wise for me to go to Vegas anymore. Yeah. I remember when I went to Vegas and I think Bill was there, I was like, I've never played poker or I've never played roulette. He said, come on, come on, you can do it. You can do it, you can do it. And I played and I beat him and he got pissed.

That's the... I remember Bill Lawrence has one of the best quotes about Vegas that I always think about. And he goes, I've never had a good second night in Vegas. That's the... I remember... Bill Lawrence has one of the best quotes about Vegas that I always think about, and he goes, I've never had a good second night in Vegas. That's the thing. Go dance. You gotta go and get the fuck out. And get out. Get out. Donald, I once went to Vegas with Donald and... Once, once.

I've been to Vegas many times with Donald, but once we were playing blackjack and he got crushed and he went upstairs and went to sleep. It was like 9.30. He was so mad that how badly he got beaten blackjack that he just, he said, I'm out. And I don't think he came back out. He went to bed at like 9.30. Well, I came out the next day. I met y'all at the pool the next day.

He had a good night's sleep. Yeah. Sleep it off. I wanted to say that that billboard at 958 that Kelso has made was really up. So nowadays that would be a visual effect, but back in 2001, they made that billboard and I remember it was up for a little while, right, Donald? Yeah. I didn't realize that the rainbow flag was behind it though.

Well, diversity. Yeah. You know what? I thought the diversity was the fact that a white guy and a black guy could work at the same hospital together. Not that the black guy was gay? Not that the black guy was gay. Right. Remember that they took down all the posters in the hospital, but they left the was up up for a while.

Yeah. Those were hilarious, by the way. I was watching this episode, I was like, I wish I had one of those as a while. Yeah. Those were hilarious by the way. I wish I was... When I was watching this episode, I was like, I wish I had one of those as a souvenir. Me too. Time to get an EKGG would be hanging up in my house dude. Time to get an EKGG is my favorite one. Oh my gosh. I wanted to say that a 10.08 is when you get mad at me, we're in the car about the billboard, and then I do an homage to the movie Vacation where I go, roll them up. Do you remember that? Do you remember in the movie Vacation when Chevy Chase is

frantically, they end up in a bad neighborhood and they're stealing their hubcaps and they hear a gunshot and Chevy Chase goes, roll them up. Roll them up. Roll off the windows. No doubt. So I just recognize my homage to vacation there. And then... You also said, keep it real. You also said, keep it real in the scene where you come, where we apologize to each other. Yeah, say after the fist bump. After the fist bump, you said, keep it real.

That's a bit of an homage too, I would say. Oh, to Chevy Chase? No, to Clueless. Oh, to Clueless, sorry. 1041, the Sanford and Son thing, which is pretty funny. And I laughed out loud when you did it like reluctantly. You did your sat, like I try and get you into the Sanford and Son thing, and then you sort of...

I do it because I can't really help it. Yeah. Yeah, but it's this, you had this look on your face that's like so reluctant, but you can't help it. But I can't help it. Ba-ba-ba-da, ba-ba-ba-da, ba-ba-ba-da, ba-ba-ba-da. Yeah, and then it cuts to an ass-slapping dance where we're singing separatism. Yeah. Yes.

Starting, it's just starting. That's a special moment in Scrubs history with us both dancing and ass-slapping. Bill had referenced you being on the brochure twice when he's on. This is the moment that happens, 1134. Now he said this was a problem that some people got mad about it. I'm sure people get mad at everything, but I think this was a real story. I think as I understand, this was taken from a real anecdote where ecology had gotten caught putting the same person on the brochure

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You guys have to jump in before we get started. Before we get started, this is Tiffany. Hi Tiffany, thanks for being here. Hi Tiffany, how are you? Oh my God. Tiffany! Wow! Oh my God.

Sorry. Hi Tiffany. No, this is beautiful. Super excited guys. Oh my. Joelle, what did you want to say before we want to get all this? What did you want to say?

It is no problem. So this is a surprise for Tiffany's husband. So he does not know that he's about to come on and talk to you guys. Wow. Hi Tiffany. That's really nice of you to come on and talk to you guys. Wow. Hi, Tiffany. That's really nice of you. That's really nice of you, Tiffany. So Tiffany, he has no clue that he's going to speak to the three of us.

No, he has absolutely no idea. Our anniversary is on Friday, nine years. Well, nine years married this year. Best anniversary present ever. Oh my goodness. Ever again. Tiffany, are you gonna tell him? Are you also in your closet?

Yes, Faison style, right? No doubt. I love it. And Judy Ray's style, as you can see. Judy Ray's is in her closet too. Now, Tiffany, what are you going to tell him? Are you going to say that you have to get on a Zoom call? Are you going to be like, yo, get your ass in the closet right now.

Get in the closet. No, don't, don't that. He'll be disappointed if he finds out it's us and his wife's luring him to the closet. Yeah, he has no idea. I had to come up with a very elaborate ruse to try to work all this out. I'm a horrible liar.

So he either thinks I'm having some kind of breakdown or hiding something from him. So the big reveal is gonna be fabulous. So what's the plan? How do we best reveal? Yeah, how do you do this? I don't know. He thinks I'm in the closet right now

on an important work phone call. And so I was going to go out there and say, I need tech support. I can't, um, I can't log into the call. Ask, ask, do it, go do it, go do it. Right now? Are we ready? Are we ready? Now's the time.

Okay. I might cry guys. And I'm an ugly crier. I, you know, just fair warning. Looks like I got hit in the face with a sock marble. So don't worry. Nobody's going to be able to see you cry. Don't worry.

Donald's going to virtually hug you. And we're fake doctors. So we're used to so we're kind of used to yeah We see lots of fake emotion. Yeah, nice. Okay. I'm gonna be right back Exciting good work. Joelle good producing Joelle. This is this is this really added a little little spice. I'm nervous Are you guys nervous? I'm excited. No, I don't want him to be disappointed. What if he's like, oh, I thought I was drunk He doesn't feel anything. Yeah, I'm drunk. Hold on guys. I'm good. I'm so I've got a nice little buzz going I'm really stressed out. These are just my my co-workers Hi Hi! Hey!

Hey! Hey! Where are your co-workers? Oh my god. Can you help us with this? Carla, I mean, I'm sorry. Can you help us with this? Judy, Judy, Judy Ray is like...

Here, they might, here they can't... Happy anniversary! This, this is for you. No. This is for you? Yes, come sit down. Come sit down. Come sit down.

It's for you. Come on, come sit down. Join us. This is for you. Leave your cheese to sour. Hi! Do you know what this is? This is for you. This is for you. This is for you. It's for you. Come sit down. Join us. Leave your cheese to sour. Hi.

Do you know what today is? It's your anniversary. Oh my god, they're crying. Anniversary. You guys can hug. Anniversary. Happy birthday. Oh, now they're hugging, you guys.

They're hugging. Joel's crying. This is so beautiful. He seems to be crying. How did you do this? Hi. Hi. Your wife called, this is how it went down. Your wife called Disney Studios and was like, I need a favor.

And Disney Studios provided. That's not true at all. That's not true at all. Your amazing wife got you on our podcast and, uh, and, and we're, we, the three of us, Donald Faison, Judy Reyes and I, Zach Graf are your, uh, your anniversary present. You can thank iHeartRadio. You can thank Joel. And you can thank Dan. And Tiffanyio, you can thank Joel, and you can thank Dan. And Tiffany Rodriguez, Donald. Tiffany Rodriguez.

And most importantly, you thank your wife. Do y'all want to hug? They did hug. They can hug again. Virtual hug. Oh my god. This is so exciting. Joel's crying. Everybody's crying. I'm gonna have to... This is so exciting. Oh my God. Joelle's crying, everybody's crying. I'm not crying.

Well, you will be. I'm not crying, I'm not gonna cry. Well, anyway, hi. We're so glad that you like our little TV show and we just wanted to say happy anniversary and if you wanted to ask us anything or anything, we're here to answer questions. It could be about the show, it could be about your life,

whatever you want. Oh my God, I feel like like Turk when he met Lando. Yeah! Lando Calrissian. I mean Turk, Chris Turk. Oh my god, and Jayden. Lando! Do it, Donald, give him a little Lando. Lando Calrissian! Oh my god.

You know, here's a little trivia. I was doing a celebration. So Star Wars has a celebration every year, right? And I was doing one of the celebrations because I voiced one of the characters on a Star Wars television show. And somebody told me that Billy Dee Williams was next door and that I should go say hi to him. And I got really excited. I was like, oh snap, Billy Dee wants to say hi to me? Okay, let me go say hi.

So I walked into the room and I, you know, there's a bunch of people in line and they're waiting to say hi to Billy Dee and take a picture with him. And I walk in and I go, ah, Landon Cowrissian. And he jumps and then he looks over at me, and he's like, the line's over there. Oh my god. Oh my god. You must have been crushed. He's like your hero.

Oh, it broke my heart. It broke my heart. It broke my heart. In your mind, you thought he was going to be like, Donald Stasel. Donald! Donald! We're now, come over here.

Come over here, my friend. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my over here. Come over here, my friend. Oh my God. Anyway. Magic.

So if you have any questions that you wanna ask, don't be shy, ask us anything. He's still stunned. Who's your favorite guest star? Favorite guest star. Favorite guest star. Judy, do you wanna go first since you're our favorite guest ever?

You guys had a lot. I had, I could tell you the first most shocking guest star because I don't know, I'm like I'm black, I don't necessarily get starstruck, but I remember the first time, I remember we had Eric Estrada on the show. And he was on the, you guys remember Eric Estrada from Chips? Of course, of course. For those of you out there who don't remember the show Chips, there was an actor on the show by the name of Eric Estrada who was America's heartthrob back in the day.

Yeah. Yes. And he wasn't supposed to be the star of the show, who knows, nobody remembers his name. Yeah, John. I don't remember his name. No, that's the character's name. Eric Estrada is the actual name of the dude who played Punch. Joelle, can you tell us his name, please?

I feel we're disrespecting this actor. I feel disrespectful myself, too. But nonetheless, when I came into hair and makeup and there was Eric Estrada getting his, he was just doing like a real quick guest appearance. And I saw him. I was like, oh, by just standing in the same room with this guy, I couldn't even speak.

And now I have a big giant, I remember Wayne Brady had a talk show at that time. And I told him that story. And he gave me a giant poster of Eric Estrada that I still have in my garage of Eric Estrada in hot pants. Yeah, I remember I remember that Eric Estrada wore really tight, tight motorcycle pants. They all did. The name that you were looking for was Wilcox. Larry Wilcox.

Larry Wilcox, yes. There you go. My apologies, Larry. It's all right. You didn't have his name, but we want to make sure we get it out there to respect all members of the Screen Actors Guild. Donald, who is your favorite guest star? Billy D.

Williams obviously. I really enjoyed when Colin Farrell came on the show. Right you were geeked about that. I loved Colin Farrell. I loved that scene. I really liked that. All of us men and women almost made out with him. Yeah. Sarah really was excited to make out with him. And then of course Brendan Frazier man like. Yes., oh, and also Ryan Reynolds. You're supposed to pick one, Donald. You're supposed to pick one. If I have to pick one? The exercise was to pick one,

not just starting listing off famous people. Oh. Well then, for me, it would have to be Billy Dee Williams. For me, it was John Ritter, hands down. Oh, yes. Absolutely. Because John Ritter, when I was a kid, you'll hear me, it was John Ritter, hands down. Oh, yes. Absolutely. Because John Ritter, when I was a kid, you'll hear me say this over and over again,

my intro to physical comedy was Three's Company. I just thought that was the funniest shit I had ever seen in my life. And John Ritter doing physical comedy was just... He's a master. He could fall over a couch like no one. And I just thought he was a over a couch like no one. And I just thought he was a master.

And then, so when he came on to play my father, I was just gushing. I was just, I loved him so much. And in fact, he was supposed to come back for the second time. Literally, he was gonna shoot Monday, and I believe he died that weekend, the weekend before. No, the week, he died the... If not the night before. No, the week, he died the-

If not the night before. No, yeah, he was supposed to come in and he passed away after they wrapped or while they were making the show that he was on at the time. And he was gonna come and do our show the next day. And it's really amazing how quickly Tom Kavanaugh, who was not scheduled to be on the show,

showed up to be on the episode and how they changed it around to make it so that John Ritter's character had passed away on the show as well. Yeah, if they had to frantically rewrite it. But that's mine. I mean, I'm literally getting goosebumps as I tell this story.

And I had him, I have a framed wall in my house of all these framed family pictures and Donald's on there a few times, of course. And there was literally, one of the most prominent pictures was a picture of me and John Ritter, just because he was just so important to me. And I loved him a lot. I remember when he said my name the first time,

and it caught me, it kind of caught me off guard. You know what I mean? I was like, holy cow, wow, John Ritter knows my name. You know what I mean? As you did, Zach, I also grew up on Three's company. And yeah, that's a, you know what? As much as I love Billy Dee Williams, meeting John Ritter was, and Michael J. Fox also,

were highlights for me. Yeah. All right, how about another question? Because now that it looks like your face has settled in a little bit, you're not stunned as much anymore. Right, your eyes aren't bulging out of your head. You could knock me over with a father right now, guys.

I don't know if I have another question. Tiffany, do you have any questions? Tiffany, how about you? Would you guys ever consider doing a live taping so that we could go and see you and after all the yeah, after obviously after all the COVID-19 stuff, but well, you know, you know, well, go ahead. If you were going to say yeah, Donald, I don't want to do that.

We just don't know when all of this is going to go away. You know what I mean? I don't know where you guys are. We're in Los Angeles right now and we we have strict policies in Los Angeles, as we should. We have a lot of COVID patients here. And so I don't know. Well, even COVID aside, there's no plans to do anything like that.

And in fact, you know, Scrubs was shot like a film, not in front of an audience. Although as you recall, we did that one sitcom spoof where we did it in front of a live audience. Live in four cameras. Yeah, that was, look, he knows the title, you are good. That was a lot of fun, you know,

because I'd never, Donald had done sitcoms before, I had never done a sitcom. Judy, had you? No, I mean, I did a pilot and I did a guest star. And I had done theater, but it was really fun doing that. Do you guys remember that? I don't know, obviously. I was so blessed.

I just remember thinking like, oh, now I see the allure of doing a sitcom. It's such a high, like the audience is so amped up. It's like cold and they've got a lot of sugar and they just laugh at whatever you do. And obviously it was a well-written episode, so it was genuinely funny. But I remember really thinking like, oh, that could be fun to do.

Are you guys in the medical industry at all? I'm just curious because you're such enormous fans. Oh, no. No. No. I was military for, I was army for a little bit, but. Where do you guys live? Northern California.

Patterson. It's right up the five on the other side of the Bay Area. Oh, so you guys are in the Bay Area? We could be over in like 5 and a half hours if you guys can make us dinner. Anytime, anytime. What y'all cooking? What y'all cooking tonight? Tacos. Tacos.

I love tacos. It's Wednesday. It's Taco Wednesday over here as well. Really? You guys, let's head up there. We'll drive in separate cars and we'll sit in your backyard. Open invitation, guys. We will maintain safe distancing, I promise you. Oh my God, thank you guys so much. Thank you so much for, what a great surprise.

Thank you guys. And our pleasure. Thank you guys for the show and for. Happy anniversary. Happy anniversary. Tiffany, you are a good wife, I gotta say. Wow. It was a good surprise.

Yeah, I'm never gonna have to buy anything ever again. I'm just gonna take a picture of that and you know just say that's it every year. Remember 2020? That's what happened. Take the picture now let's take the picture then. Let me get let me get fresh for you though. Wait I got my phone. Let me get fresh for you. Is that okay? Can we take a picture? Yeah of course you can. Yes of course. Okay. Make sure you get Joelle too. Okay. And that's how we'll always remember them. That's how we'll always remember them. Oh there they they are. Oh my God. I accidentally did airplane mode. Should have heard him though. He's like, no!

He screams. Oh my God. Wow. Guys, you were just totally awesome. And thank you for doing this. It's our pleasure. Watching the show, listening to the podcast. It's just awesome right now. Thank you. We're having so much fun doing it. It means a lot to us that you're loving listening. And please stay safe up there and enjoy Taco Wednesday.

We will do that. Be healthy. Thank you. Thank you. Bye, guys. Bye. Yeah, you technically are supposed to hang up. Oh, OK.

You don't have to. You don't have to. I accidentally did before. We can be together forever. I'm going to bite my hand. I like it. I like it, Judy. Let's do that. Rocking the curly hair. I'm a fan.

No, no, but really hang up now because we got the rest of the show. I'm just kidding. Donald's like, no joke, get the fuck out. No, no, no. Rodriguez is getting the fuck out. Got it. No, no, no. I love y'all. Thank you. Thank you so much, guys. Thank you. Bye.

Joelle, good job. Oh my gosh, that was great. Joelle, Joelle, I don't know how a caller can, I mean, you really brought it. How did you do that? I don't know how anyone's ever gonna compete with that, Joelle. You know, I wanted to really quickly give some tips.

If you guys wanna write in a letter, make sure your subject line is just really expressive. That's gonna pop out. It's like we have thousands and thousands of letters for people wanting to call in. And so just, you know, whatever you can, put your question in there if you have a good one, if you have a good story,

we'll probably wait till we surprise someone. So don't try to set that up just yet. In other words, top that bitches. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, listen, we should remind people if you do, even though Joelle's saying she's getting thousands of them,

if you do want to ask a question, you write an email to scrubsiheart at gmail.com. Find a way to stand out and it'll all be up to Joelle's eyeballs who gets to come on. Yeah, don't blame me if you call in and you try to call in or you send an email and you don't get a response. It's not my fault. You blame Joel. You're not going to believe this, but Donald's not the one sifting through the thousands of emails.

Yeah. You blame Joel. Yeah. You blame Joel. It's her fault. You got to put some bass in your voice. You ain't going to fall for no banana in the tailpipe. You're not going to fall for no banana in the tailpipe.

I ain't going to fall for no banana in the tailpipe. This guy too much. Wait a minute. No banana, no tailpipe? What the fuck? No banana, no tailpipe? What the fuck? All right. So I was going to say something. Hold on. Before we go, I was going to say something. Go ahead. Oh, look, you got notes. I'm so impressed. I always have notes. This is from, I always have notes.

Oh, good. I didn't know that you were always rocking notes. I just thought you were making drinks over there in the closet. No, no. Boy, oh boy. Oh boy, oh boy. Go ahead. over there in the closet. No, no. Boy. Go ahead. Dr. Kelso calls Turk, Turk. Yeah. This Dr. Turk, he calls him Dr. Turk. Now, right, and not Turkelton. So does this mess up the lore that Kelso doesn't know Turk's last name is Turkelton

and he's just calling him Dr. Turk like he would call Dr. Dory and Dr. he would therefore be calling Dr. Dory and Dr. John Or did they decide somewhere down the line? This is a good Bill Lawrence question that they decide somewhere down the line that Kelso just forgot Turk's name all together Okay, we'll ask Bill that here, Joel. What was the intention? I imagine that someone just missed it and decided it would be funny later on

if Kelso had no idea what your name and thought your name was Turk Turkelton, which is very funny. That's one of the funniest. That's another thing that I really loved. I've been spewing about this, Judy, because I really feel like our relationship is the one, I mean, yeah, they follow JD and Elliot throughout the show to season eight is, is, you know, you watch it grow.

And by season three, when we finally get into the wedding and all of that stuff, I really felt like it was earned by the time we got there, you know what I mean? Like, we had been through so many, the characters had been through so many things. And so, you know, when I look back at all of this stuff, when I look back at me singing Mrs. Jones and, you know, me hiding in your, in your closet at your mom's house. And then when you finally decide to move in and, you know, there's a breakup between Turk and Carla and all of that stuff before they get married. I feel like it's really earned. And I don't necessarily remember how the episode

of us getting married turns out, but I just remember it feeling so epic when we were shooting it, you know what I mean? Because all of this stuff that we had been through in the first few seasons were coming to a head at that point. And I just felt like our romance on the show was just, you know, I said it to Bill, I thought it was perfect.

You didn't necessarily need to on the show was just, you know, I said it to Bill, I thought it was perfect. You didn't necessarily need to watch the show to understand that Turk and Carla were the- Were the- They belong together. They were strength and the foundation. Yeah. A part of that, like, in essence,

kind of like the way the episode ends, it's kind of like the reason you belong in this place and the way these people build together like a family. It's kind of like, you know, they're like that parental force, that place that you belong, the reason that you feel like you go there, you know what I mean? Like, meant to be, you know, despite the fuck ups and the break ups and the ups and the downs, they're funny together, they understand each other. He's silly where she's a little too serious, because you can't have them both be silly at the same time.

Right. You know what I mean? She's got- She grounds him. Yeah, she grounds him and she grounds a lot of other people, you know what I mean, where she begs to be light when she's not. She has to loosen up sometimes. Where she teaches people about the place that they're in.

Where she has to be taken out of there sometimes. Like Cox has to be taken out of there sometimes. You know what I mean? Yeah. So they pull each other out of there sometimes. You know what I mean? Yeah. So it's they pull each other out of where they are and they bring each other to where they have to be. Yeah. Speaking of very much yin and yang, you know what I mean? I remember somebody asking me, you know, well, what do you have in common with your wife? I was like, well,

I don't have that much in common with my wife, to be honest with you. We do love each other passionately and stuff like that. That's the one thing we do have in common, but we're not necessarily the same people. And I think that's very much the same with Chris Turk and Carla. I think that the two of them, they might be both from the inner... I don't even know that Turk is from the inner city. I know Carla's from the inner city, but Turk, in this episode, we discovered that he was always the black dude in the situation. You know what I mean? Even in the science fair, where they give him the blue ribbon, even though he didn't compete in the science fair. And also at college, because they weren't a lot of black kids at the college, they put them in the brochure

twice. But anyway, my point is their personalities aren't necessarily the same, but they compliment each other so well. All right. Yeah. That is like you and Casey. I mean, it's funny you say that because you guys are so perfect together, but yeah, Yin Yang is the perfect way to put it. We're completely different. Way to put it, but so different. Yeah. I think that's what worked about Carla and Turk. Carla is so serious and Turk's such

a fucking goofball, but you put them together and you get like the perfect couple. I want to just touch on the scene when Johnny C berates me at 18, 18 in the conference room. I thought Johnny's performance there was really, really good. And it's a really powerful scene. It was an early moment in Scrubs

where he's just laying it all out there. There's no score that's sort of forcing your emotions. It was just like him just laying in to me. I thought that way. I thought he was really good there. I thought he was great in it. And I watched it twice, the episode. And I remember when I first, what I do remember about the episode and having seen, when I saw it initially it was like he's just so hard on him We know and but I'm a parent now Yeah, and and I know my husband who's like coaches soccer is hard like that and he's hard like that on my daughter And I get it. Do you know what I mean? It was like shit. I get it You know, it's like a person who wants approval can be You know, it's like a person who wants approval can be

so satisfied with being liked and everybody being okay with you know thinking that you're good or or being Approved by everyone around you instead of knowing that they're The job that they're doing is a good job Or you knowing that what you did was well done instead of people liking you or liking what you did. You know, and that's a really hard place to be when you have to look at yourself. You know what I'm saying? I'm watching it was like, shit, that was so good, which Johnny C is like, no one's harder on Johnny C than Johnny Z.

You know what I mean? Yeah, he really brought it. I mean, I just, I thought, you know, it's a pretty big speech he had and he just... I don't know, I got goosebumps when I was watching it. But he's relentless like that. There's a funny moment in 1949 when Elliot offers to give your friend Valium. I'm like, a doctor's allowed to do that? Your friend is upset because her son got stabbed and Elliot's like, don't worry, we're going

to set you up with a Valium and an IV drip. I was like, what? That's a thing? That, I mean, if it's not, it should be. Because I would need it if my kid got stabbed. I'm going to tell you that right now. I would lose my shit. I just didn't know if doctors are allowed to just start throwing around volume for people that are upset. Well, with the stuff that's out now, that's like nothing. They say, I'll give you two

Xanax and an opiate. You'll be fine. He's like, I'm worried about you. I'm going to set you up in a room with a volume and a drip. I was like, really? Go Elliot. In an inner city hospital with people pouring out the doors. But you got to work for you. That's what's messed up.

It's an inner city hospital that so heavily relies on insurance. It was 20 years ago, Faison, relax. I'm just saying this shit is still prevalent. This shit is still real today, yo. I'm just keeping it 100. At 1958, it may be the very first occurrence of the sad Scrubs cue. Ba ba da ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba

da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da. That's the first time I heard it. Oh, okay. I don't know. But those of you who don't know, this Scrubs cue will go on for a really long time until finally we started making fun of it so much. Yeah, that JD starts commenting on the sad scrubs song. Right, and it gets taken out of the show because of that. I think what happened was- What season does it get taken out?

Oh, that I don't know. I think the composer made it like a handful of cues and then these guys just use the same cues over and over again. There's not that many other, you know, when we don't use music, there's not that many scrubs cues. It's like, bow.

Bow. That was like a- Do-do like a sting when something funny happened. They just go bow. After something Robert said, after everything that Mash said. Benign, benign and a half, down. That's the janitor benign, benign and a half, Donald. I thought that was. Yeah, that's the episode where I have to look at the janitors. I catch a look at the janitor's penis and I and I notice that there's a mole on it

and I and then I have to inspect it and I go it's benign and he goes benign benign and a half. I thought that was the tie that said that this whole time. That's hilarious. Like I said I don't remember this show. I was on it and I don't remember much about it. Well, that's the show, guys. That's the episode pretty much. Yeah. Judy, will you come do this more? Because I think we really like having you on. I hope I can speak for my co-host, Donald Thaison. I would love it if you came back again.

I would love to return. Anytime you want to. We will make that happen. And Judy, since you are one of my favorite guests to ever be on our little podcast, and also because you have a beautiful voice, I thought you could be the first one to ever count us in to our theme song that ends the show. Donald prefers to go five, six, seven, eight.

I don't know how you feel. You can count in any way you so choose. Is five, six, seven, eight. I don't know how you feel. You can count in any way you so choose. Is five, six, seven, eight okay? Yeah, Donald, you wanna weigh in on that? However you wanna do it, it's all right with me. Is it like five, six, seven, eight? That's pretty good. That'll work. That could work.

Yeah, okay. But let's do it for real now. Okay, here we go. That was pretty good. Okay, but I wanna just just... You're doing good. Yeah. Judy Reyes, we love you. Thank you for coming on the podcast. Count us in to our theme song. Five, six, seven, eight. I said, here's the stories that you all should know So gather round to hear our Gather round to hear our

Scrubs, rewatch, Joe, and Zach and I know