Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - Real Friends Classic - 115: My Bed Banter and Beyond With Randall Winston

Episode Date: April 8, 2025

On this week's episode of Scrubs, JD and Eliot attempt to carry out a secret relationship while at work. In the real world, Zach and Donald are joined by Scrubs Producer Randall Winston.See omnystudio....com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:23 I am a pescatarian. I'm trying that out. When did you become a pescatarian? I watched this documentary that really got me inspired about stopping eating animals besides fish. You sound like my dad. My dad is the same way right now. The documentary was called The Game Changers? Is that what it's called? Yes game changers So I but I've never done anything. I love burgers. I love I love all the shit We all have eaten our whole lives, but we have all this time on our hands, right? It's like an experimentation time on every front right like you can experiment with You know, I've been experimenting with all sorts of things in my life, as I'm sure a lot of people have.
Starting point is 00:03:05 One was like, okay, well, let me just try this during this time to only be a fish eater. I do feel better. I do feel healthier. Well, that's great. But I know you're very meat passionate, Donald. I'm trying to stay away from the red meat. That's the hardest thing to stay away from. It's so tasty.
Starting point is 00:03:24 I've been trying to figure out different ways to cook a chicken and I've been doing that a lot lately But yeah, you're right. I do agree that too much meat is bad for you, obviously Because you know cholesterol says something about that blood pressure said something about that heart disease Colorectal cancer says a lot about that, you know what I mean? And that's when you eat too much red meat usually or processed foods. I'm having a hard time getting off of all of that stuff though. That's the problem. I know man. It's so addictive. I gotta tell you last night we had a fake burger. You had Beyond Burger? It wasn't one of the fancy ones. Beyond? It wasn't
Starting point is 00:04:03 Beyond or Impossible. Those are the only two names I know. And we just got it at a supermarket. It was a nice brand, I forgot the brand, but it was amazing. I mean, once you put cheese on it and all the fixings and your spices, it's great. Yeah, but once you put the cheese on it, you're no longer Presquitarian,
Starting point is 00:04:20 whatever it is that you're trying to be. Presquitarian, that's, yeah, I can eat cheese. I'm just not eating. I'm not eating meat I'm not eating. I'm not eating any form of meat other than fish all right. Well should we sing? You don't seem happy. I want you to get happy you seem very happy You can't sing unless you're happy down ruins very whole song hold on hold on hold on you just you have a furrowed brow I Am very happy first of all okay. Well, let's let me see it.
Starting point is 00:04:47 We're about to bring on Randall Winston, one of the most exciting people. I'm really excited about that. I don't want him to see- you better turn that motherfucking bearded frown upside down. I'm telling you something right now. Randall Winston is responsible for some of the most happiest moments of my life, so I can't wait to have him on. Okay, well then count these motherfuckers in. Five, six, seven, eight motherfuckers! Here's some stories about a show we made About a bunch of docs and nurses
Starting point is 00:05:14 And a janitor who loved to hate acid Here's a story that you all should know So gather round to hear our Gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our, spruced rewind show with Zach and Dono. Randall Winston! There he is, why is he wearing like a gaming headset? That's the only headset I could find.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Oh my God. You're so adorable right now. You're playing Xbox later, buddy. Did we interrupt you from Call of Duty? Or are you flying a chopper anytime soon? I wish. I wish. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:06:00 We're so excited to have you on the show. Yeah, we hear you just now. We hear you. Awesome. Yeah, we hear you just Awesome. Yes. This is my son's gaming headset. I knew it By the way, this is gonna be so I wish the audience could see Randall is wearing a gaming headset But if you don't play games picture a helicopter headset, right and he's in his beautiful garden and he's wearing his kids kids gaming and Literally is it literally is the game lights up garden and he's wearing his kids kids gaming and Literally is the lights up
Starting point is 00:06:37 How are you Randy I am fantastic, I mean all things considered I'm great, you know congratulations on your pickup Yes, thank you we did we didn't picked up, Randall, but you did. I'm so sorry. It's all right. I'm sorry. Don't worry about it. Donald, I didn't know you didn't get picked up. I'm sorry. It's all good. ABC decided not to go further with Emergence,
Starting point is 00:06:51 but better news, ABC decided to go further with Mixedish, which is Randall's show. Oh. Thank you. Now, let me get this straight. Randall, you're executive producer on the show now? That is correct. Look at you, man. Started as a line producer.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Randall, we gotta go back, because Randall's career is on fuego. And I think for people that wanna go into Hollywood, Randall is a really exciting case of someone that's on fuego right now. Well, not only is he on fuego, I remember a video, I don't know how I saw this video, but it was a video of you pretty much manifesting your destiny, you know how I saw this video, but it was a video of you pretty much manifesting your destiny. You know what I mean? Saying, this is what I want to do. I want to move to Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:07:29 I want to be a big time producer. And you know, and you're very young in this video too. I don't know how I saw this video. I don't know how you started. It was it was posted by a friend of mine. It was we were like, it was our 21st birthday or something like that. This is a girl who I met on the journey to Los Angeles. We met at a rest stop in Oklahoma
Starting point is 00:07:54 and became life friends. We were on our way to come find our dreams. And she was very into documenting everything. And Donald, I can't believe you saw that. That's crazy. Donald and I are very into, well, I don't know, I can't believe you saw that. That's, that's crazy. Donald and I are very into, well, I don't know, Donald, I think you are, but I'm very pro right now, manifesting your shit and making everything happen.
Starting point is 00:08:13 My friend, our friend Amanda is missed like whiteboard and writing everything down. And actually I became friendly with John Legend's manager. I think I've told you this story, Donald, who said that everything that John Legend has accomplished, they put on a whiteboard when they were kids, like at a college, and they were like writing down like, they were laughing, like, I don't know, this many Grammys and cover a Time magazine, and they were just like cracking each other up and she's like, every single thing we put on that whiteboard happened.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Yeah, he got an EGOT. John Legend got an EGOT. He's got an EGOT. Right. Well, Randall got, John Legend got an EGOT. He's got- Well, Randall's gonna get a fucking EGOT, especially for his acting skills. Oh boy, here we go. No, we had to get into it because Donald called me out to Randall saying that I dissed his work as death
Starting point is 00:08:57 in the show. And Randall texted me very upset about death, his work as death being criticized. texted me very upset about death. His work is death being criticized. I mean, I think I played the part that was required of death in it. I also, you know, death is not the only role that they played on scrubs. You know, I know you also, well, we haven't gotten to the, to the security guard yet. We, he hasn't been introduced yet. The hook, the hook handed security guard. Oh, I forgot that you were the hook handed security guard.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Leonard, who had. Leonard. Leonard. Who had tens of fans. Randall, how many episodes did Leonard do, do you think? I don't know exactly how many episodes he did, but I will tell you this. all fans that wrote to me, so many people from men's prison,
Starting point is 00:09:49 got some sort of treat, a signed script or something from Scripps. So you weren't able to do it and not get carpet tunnel is what you're saying because there's only like tens of them. Exactly. Would you really give fan mail? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Yeah, I got like. Leonard. Not a lot. But who got more fan mail? Who got more fan mail, Leonard or Dev? Leonard for sure. All right, let's go back to the beginning. Yes, let's start at the very beginning.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I tried to do that with you manifesting your destiny. But at some point, things changed for you. Like you lived in New York for a little bit, and then you moved to Los Angeles. Can you just tell us how it all started and how you got connected with Bill and how this became and how this all transcended into scrubs? Yes. The truth is, Bill and I met socially first. and how this all transcended into Scrubs. Yes. The truth is, Bill and I met socially first.
Starting point is 00:10:48 As a matter of fact, on Scrubs, we kept a graduation photo in Turk and JD's apartment and told everybody that was our graduation picture. But we really, we met on the basketball court. I had an old roomie. So I had driven out from the Midwest, you know, trying to find my dream, got to Los Angeles, snuck onto all the lots in town, got myself a job, and I started creating my circle, you know, your chosen family, your LA family. And a guy who was my best friend,
Starting point is 00:11:27 who I lived with, a guy named Greg Malins, who went on to run Friends and How I Met Your Mother and a bunch of other stuff, he and Bill had this, played in this Saturday game and invited me to play a few times. And that's how, that was how I originally met met bill um I went from working for a guy named Gary Dave Goldberg that was my my very first job he's the guy who created Family Ties yeah exactly yeah he was amazing he was an
Starting point is 00:11:59 amazing mentor and he had taken Bill under his wing so so Gary is in some ways the reason that we started working together and The first show we did together was a show called champs that was the first show we did together and Kevin Nealon was in it. It was it was dreamworks very first TV show So that kind of okay just so so Kevin Nealon who Zach remembers being at the first party we ever had in New York City. Yeah, our scrubs up front parties. Yeah. That's why Kevin Nealon was there, Zach. He wasn't there because he was a fan of the show. He was there because he worked with Bill and Randall. Okay, well he may have been a coincidence,
Starting point is 00:12:42 but okay I'll hear you. Okay. Randall you froze are you still there? Oh boy. And that was when we lost Randall. Oh god. What are you drinking there? Mimosa? Little mimosa on Memorial Day. Yeah buddy. The thing about Memorial Day is it's just another weekday that you can rationalize it's okay to drink early. Yeah. I mean now in this and age, it doesn't feel any different. My girlfriend was like, it's Memorial Day. I'm like, how is that going to be different from any other day that we're living in hibernation right now?
Starting point is 00:13:15 Well, the kids don't really. We can drink. Yeah, the kids don't have to get on Zoom today. Okay, I guess if you have kids, they don't have to get on their Zoom things. But today is a day where you know My wife looked at me. It was like you're drinking already, and I was like it's a memorial day So did she then join you no she did not she was like you're an alcoholic oh Shit be like baby. It's a memorial day and on that note. I I'm going upstairs to do my podcast
Starting point is 00:13:45 Okay, Randall says he's resetting the Wi-Fi It's Memorial Day. And on that note, I'm going upstairs to do my podcast. OK, Randall says he's resetting the Wi-Fi. Oh, God. That's that's that's unfortunate. You know, we lost all the momentum of blowing this guy up. We're going to have to regenerate it. We're going to have to regenerate it. We're going to have to regenerate our Randall blow up. He said fucking spectrum. I just had my dad switch off of spectrum for the same reason. That shit is do to.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Trash. Trash. Trash. Trash. Trash. Trash. Trash. Trash.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Trash. Trash. Trash. Trash. Trash. Trash. Trash. Trash. Trash. Trash. Trash. The only way that I found that you get good internet service is if you just switch from provider to provider every year or so, because they don't reward loyalty. There's no like your bill is reduced, your service is better.
Starting point is 00:14:31 It just gets worse and worse and worse. And they want to keep getting new customers. So I have gigabit internet, 1000 megabytes up and down for 75 bucks a month, which is the cheapest internet I've ever had. And it's just because I switched. What are you using now, Dan? What was your company? 18 tnt. All right. Well, guys, you're hearing in here first that Dan really recommends 18 t. It's really about you can work
Starting point is 00:14:54 the companies against each other if you're constantly quitting one and saying no, fuck off, you suck, and then they give you a better rate. So if you have the time which you do now, you too can have fancy fast internet like Dan Randall, welcome back. Thank you. In the middle of blowing you up. And then you had to do a Wi Fi problem. All right, so let's get back into it. So you let's just jump
Starting point is 00:15:15 to in the spirit of time. Let's just keep this moving. You start work on spin city with Bill and you hit it off. You become besties. You're partying around the city. You're young men in Manhattan go. It's amazing. How did you get from LA to Manhattan? How did that happen? Well, we're playing Donald no doubt. Man, the fight if I could reach through this right now. You know what, it goes back to basketball. We came off the basketball court one night playing and
Starting point is 00:15:46 Gary and Bill pulled me aside and they said, you know, we just wrote this pilot We sent it to we sent it to Michael J Fox and they said There's a character the mayor is named after you. I think your mother would be very proud Mayor Randall Winston and Made by the great Barry Boswick and with the show got we did the pilot in LA but Michael was living in New York and said he would only do the series if we took it to New York so that
Starting point is 00:16:15 was the opportunity of a lifetime you know changed my life I got the chance to to go to New York Gary took a select group of people. And Donald, you know, Sebastian, you guys know Sebastian Jones, we moved, we all went to New York with all excitement. Nobody was over anything. Everybody just was into going to the city. You were wide eyed. How old were you? I was, I think I was 29. I think I turned 30 that year. But Bill was, Bill's a year younger than me and he had like the first American Express black card and he would say, you know, Randall go out and find us an after hours every Friday. So there'd be lines at these after hours clubs and they're like, you know, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:17:05 We don't have any room. I'd be like, you got room now, motherfucker? Now you gotta be for me. Now. I'd say, I'd say, I need two cases of champagne and a private room. And that was just the beginning. Right. Wow.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Now, I gotta tell you something. Some of my favorite moments, some of the best moments of my life, I've shared with you, Ren. You have been present at some of the most special moments, some of the best moments of my life I've shared with you, Ren. You have been present at some of the most special moments, some of the most wildest moments, some of the craziest moments of my life have been with you there. I love that. Everything, everything from partying in Vegas to marrying him and his wife and everything in between. Randall has been there. He has been there.
Starting point is 00:17:45 How many people have you married, Randall? 17 successful couples. Donald, what I say, I said, you got to be serious because everybody I marry stays together. Right. How many people have gotten divorced? Zero. Oh!
Starting point is 00:18:02 You got a good streak. You got a good streak. I don get some people messing my streak up. Now, Randall, if I'm listening to this, I was preparing for this and I thought, if I'm listening to this and I'm interested in production, but I didn't know anything about it. I see in the credits all the time, a line producer, but I see exec producer. I see associate producer. I see all these titles.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Could you explain to people that have nothing to do with the business what a line producer does? Yes, yes, it's true that TV credits are lousy with producers and usually if the credit is line producer or produced by, that credit is reserved for the person who is essentially responsible for keeping the train running on time. Making sure that you've got the right crew people in the right place. Making sure that the show is on budget.
Starting point is 00:18:55 That it is getting delivered on time. Not just within the time constraints of your time slot, but delivered the day that it's supposed to be delivered, you know, sort of soup to nuts. It starts with the prep, which is, as it sounds, the preparing of the show. When you first get a little bit of information about the series and each episode, you know, you start to break it down with your team. You know, how many actors are we going to need? Do we need to build sets? Are we going out anywhere?
Starting point is 00:19:23 And what is it going to need? Do we need to build sets? Are we going out anywhere? And what is it going to take? And I think that job at its best is a negotiator and a translator. You know, that's somebody who, you know, oftentimes it was between, I'm working between Bill on Scrubs, between Bill who created the show and the studio and the network so that everybody's getting what they need and even when they're not speaking the same language or figure out what the best thing to accomplish what's in the script is can be accomplished within the box that's been built. Yeah, and the line producer is also, if you think about it, the keeper of the purse, in a sense that when you're directing or show running, you will often think, oh, I think we should,
Starting point is 00:20:12 I wrote this big scene, it'd be great to shoot it in this amazing restaurant. And then I want to get a crane outside that's going to come down here. And then it would be cool if it was raining outside. This is when the line producer starts to sweat and we start to go, wait, do we need rain? Why do we need rain? Every time Zach got a directing assignment, before there was even a script, he would come to me and say, I need a crane. Exactly. I don't even know what the fucking script says, but I'm gonna need a big ass crane.
Starting point is 00:20:39 So it's the line producer's job, almost like a parent, to be be like, look, use the dollar and you got your candy bar. You should have saved it and you could have gotten ice cream. Yes. You could have, you could have one big thing or two little things. Right. Right. And a lot of times it's negotiation. Like, you'd like, Hey, you know, the, the, the, the, the money, but in terms of
Starting point is 00:21:00 the money, it's not just the camera gear, but how many crew, how many extras are you going to be able to afford? Are you going to be able to do any overtime? All of that, as often as the relationship I often have with the line producers, they say, think of it like a Chinese food menu in that you're choosing from a myriad of things that you can have, but you can't exceed that budget. So if you do want a big ass crane, then maybe you can't have as many background at the wedding You say that I oftentimes across my career have literally made a Chinese menu for directors and producers, you know, because with you inevitably get to a point and
Starting point is 00:21:43 Bill and I used to have you know something back then it was it was like the thousand dollar deal which was once we had locked the budget he was not allowed to bring me any problems that cost more than a thousand dollars like we could figure it out you know if it was a thousand or under but you know you can't be adding stuff once we're what's once we start rolling now on back in the day we would do a lot of overtime which which now people don't really do anymore, right? I mean, on your jobs now, are people pretty much keeping it to 12 hours these days? It depends, really. I mean, for the most part, yes, but a lot has changed. You know, we did, for a big chunk of that show, a true single-camera show,
Starting point is 00:22:18 which is almost all shows have more than one camera rolling at a time. Now, so you can get more work done within the hours you can get, you know, for those who, do people know the difference between single and multi? Like usually on a single camera show, you're getting one angle at a time shooting one actor's close-up, then you turn around and get the other actor, and the more actors in a scene, you know, the more times you're turning. And if you have multiple cameras, then you can get multiple shots.
Starting point is 00:22:44 But on a show like Mixed-ish, you know, And if you have multiple cameras, then you can get multiple shots. But on a show like Mixedish, you know, or, you know, American Housewife, or any show that's got a family, you know, family show as opposed to community, you're up against kid hours. So those shows in particular are held to a stricter standard of hours. I'm gonna be honest with you. I love it when kids are on the show now and you're working the show, because you're not going past 12 hours.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Dude, you might not even do eight hours that day. You know what I mean? I love it. I did, so I did Emergence this last year. It didn't get picked up, ABC, thank you. Um, but, um... You were great in it, Donald. By the way, you were great in that show. I think we should pour some out for Emergence.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Rest in peace, Emergence. Rest in peace, Emergence. But I remember we had two very young ladies on the show and they were in school. And once they showed up to set, we had the clock was ticking. We had eight hours to get them done or they turned into a pumpkin. Yes, they're called pumpkining. And so I used to love that. It would be like, are the kids working today?
Starting point is 00:23:43 And they'd be like, yeah. And I'd be like, great. That would be like, are the kids working today? They'd be like, yeah. And I'd be like, great. That means I'm done before, you know, I'm done before the sun goes down. It's when the kids weren't working that you were like, oh my God, I'm gonna be here forever. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Well, Randall. You see kids on there, you can make a... Right, right. You'd be like, I can make that eight o'clock movie tonight. Randall, you and I always got along so well. You know, sometimes the relationship between a director and a line producer can be contentious because the director feels like,
Starting point is 00:24:08 oh, you're taking away, you're not working with me, you're not making it, you're not helping me realize all the things I wanna do. Of course, the line producer has a stressful job. You're like, dude, you're killing me, you're so over budget, what the hell are you talking about? But when the two are friends and they feel like, hey, let's work it out, then it never gets contentious.
Starting point is 00:24:25 But of course, sometimes when people don't get along, the line producer and the director don't always like each other. Well, I think that it has been, to the great benefit of my career in general, part of it is just, I think, the way that I like to work, is that the goal is to be symbiotic. Like, you know, when people think that it's contentious,
Starting point is 00:24:44 it is contentious, but, you know, we're all rowing in the same direction. You want a great show. You want, in comedies in particular, you know, like, I think about the episode, not, I know it's not the episode we're talking about today, but your episode when you go into the puddle and you see...
Starting point is 00:25:00 What was the first episode? A manatee, it was not a sea monster. Did you say sea monster. It was not a sea monster. Did you say sea monster? It was not a sea monster, Randall. It was Amanite, named Julian. Julian. Julian. I love that you said sea monster.
Starting point is 00:25:16 What was the sea monster's name? So that's a perfect example of that script had so much in it. But that was the biggest joke in the show. And you know, we had to call the city and get dig alert. It was the first time I got to use a jackhammer and we're like digging holes in the parking lot and creating a swimming pool that we're gonna have to fill in. But the question was, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:42 is this one of the funniest things in the script? What are we gonna give up or combine so that we can keep that? And that trusting relationship, you know, with the actor, with the director, with the writers, you know, builds that thing that you're talking about. And Ronald, you're the kind of person that was like so on board, you'd be like, oh my God, we have to figure it out. We have to figure out a way. I know. Yeah, because I think that I think my God, we have to figure it out. We have to figure out a way. I know. Yeah. Because Randall, I think that, I think that
Starting point is 00:26:06 gag, which involved building two different small swimming pools to code, because the city was not going to let anyone not do it to code was one of the most expensive gags in Scrubs history, as I recall. Yes, it was. Yes. It was very, very expensive. That's you're right, Zach. That's a very important point. If you have a line producer who's game and is like, I can figure this out if you work with me, we can figure this out, you're gonna get some of the best stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:35 You know what I mean? Of course. Of course, and what's so weird about Randall was, some of these guys and gals are sitting in an office and they're rolling your eyes when you walk in. Randall was out there with the jackhammer being like, I can't believe we're building the toll. Totally true. All right, should we get into the episode? Yes, let's get into the episode. So Randall, this one is supersized. Let's talk
Starting point is 00:27:01 about that. Very rare. most episodes thus far in the show have been 22 minutes without commercials. This one is 28, which is a big leap to supersize, right? It was a big issue at the time, the show with the pizza clock as we called it. But the network was very contentious about this episode and they did not rerun it again in certainly not that season and I don't think for years because being supersized and it's a very thoughtful episode,
Starting point is 00:27:34 you know, very emotional goes inside where the characters are and I think at the time, you know, we were still in season one and they wanted it to just be, you know, more JD falling. Yeah, exactly. More JD running. you know, we were still in season one and they wanted it to just be, you know, more more JD falling. Yeah, exactly. They were like, what are you doing this weird documentary style interludes? I mean, where's JD running into a wall? And you know, but it's a great episode, I just want to say, written by Gabrielle Allen and directed by Lawrence Trilling, who became one of our favorites early on. He then went on to do Pushing Daisies and Parenthood and I just googled now that he's on Goliath. But super talented guy. I think Lawrence Trilling and I did Felicity together.
Starting point is 00:28:16 You did. You did. Are we ever on Alias, Donald? No, I was never on Alias. Okay. Well, he also did Alias. But yeah, he directed Young Donald Faison and Felicity. He was a really great guy Really fun good director and Gabby gotta love her Good team great team and and I just thought there's a lot of styles is so so there became this convention It's a few conventions There's the pizza clock thing if you look down at the pizza guys in you didn't notice, the idea was that it was mimicking a clock. And so as the episode is cutting between that one night of Sarah and I in bed and then back to the few weeks
Starting point is 00:28:55 that follow us trying to date, whenever it cuts back, the pizza's trying to look like a clock from that night. So there's that sort of gag, the timeline shakeup. And then there's these documentary style shaky cam grainy film, as though we're all being interviewed for a psychologist project on why people become doctors, right? Right. Okay. That's not, I thought that was the next episode, but okay. No, that's my bed banter and beyond.
Starting point is 00:29:26 That's some intercutting sarenine, our big epic fuckfest, for lack of a better term. I gotta tell you something, man. Nobody's that much. Let's go back. You said the word, now I'm gonna, now we can talk about it, I guess. I miss those days. I miss the days when it was just sex all day, before kids, when you could just bone all day,
Starting point is 00:29:51 then go out to dinner that night, and then bone some more. My wife and I, you know what? We gotta make an appointment now. And it sucks. Is it in your eye cal? Dude, I'll be like, you think it's a joke, and a lot of stand-up comics have made this joke, but it's real You'll be like, how about sex Thursday? Can we do Thursday? Thursday I'm having my hair done right? No, no, no, no, no, no, no the kids got zoom all day
Starting point is 00:30:17 I'm gonna be exhausted by 8 o'clock. There's no way and Ozark comes on. I gotta watch Ozark Okay, well Jason Bateman is stealing your sex night. Jason Bateman is fucking it up for me right now I hear the show is a good-looking man. I hear the show's great, but damn you Jason Bateman I just wish he would get through the show already. I just missed those days I missed the days where it was like and that granted I I love my children and I love having them in my life, but I just miss the days of freaking waking up, boning, going to Hugo's to get breakfast. Brunch, brunch! Or brunch, right, brunch, whatever it is, coming back home and being like, well, what
Starting point is 00:31:02 do you want to do? Well, we haven't fucked in like five hours We might as well fuck again perfect Donald I am sitting outside looking longingly at my blackout shutters and how we to use them so much more right just like Do what you got to do right This is over them days is over. Them days is over. You guys are really doing a great ad for having children right now.
Starting point is 00:31:29 No, you should do it. It's great. It's wonderful. As you both drink your white claw. Now Elliot has said in previous episodes that she's never had an orgasm and she said that she doesn't like sex. So is JD the first person to not only bring her to orgasm, but show her the wondrous world of epic sex days? I'm sure you would like to think so.
Starting point is 00:31:56 I think yes. I'm not JD, Donald. I'm Zach Braff, but I think the character of JD probably was good in bed. Well, you know, in the beginning of it all, JD was kind of a sucker when he's like, he almost let her walk out of the house. And she was obviously very much into JD. Well, I don't know, dude. I disagree. I was watching it with fresh eyes and I was thinking,
Starting point is 00:32:19 I couldn't read where she was. Was she like, hey, I should go. And then, you know, you know what that's like back in the day. You're insecure. Dude, I hate that shit. I hate that shit. Why the test? Why I gotta be tested for?
Starting point is 00:32:31 How come you can't just be like, you know what, maybe this was a mistake. Was it a mistake though? Or did we, you know what I mean? Like I remember saying to my wife when she was my girlfriend, like, you know, I don't know if this is, if this is working out, you know what I mean? And her being like, you don't? Wait
Starting point is 00:32:50 a second. This is the best thing that's ever happened to you. What do you mean you don't know if this is working out? Like that was real talk. The fact that JD almost had her out the door before he was before she turned around and was like, yo, just say you want me to stay and stop being a sucker, stop being a little punk about this. Just say you want me to stay and I'll stay and we can go have sex again. And then he's finally like, will you stay? And she's like, yeah, you're going to pay for that though because I almost walked out. Yeah, but don't you remember back in the day when you weren't in such a long long term relationship when something's new and you're kind of insecure about it, you're like, did this person have as good of fun as I did?
Starting point is 00:33:30 I don't want to be the one who put I don't want to put my one. I don't want to be the one who puts myself out there and gets dissed. Like you're you're you're in a very vulnerable state. You're like, I kind of like this person. Do they like me? You know, well, did JD, the character just wasn't he in the friend zone a couple episodes before that? Yeah, they were they were friend zoned. Yeah, like, maybe
Starting point is 00:33:50 seven episodes before he gets friend zoned. Right. And then he and then we got to go to break. We'll be right back with the legendary Randall Winston. Imagine you're scrolling through TikTok, you come across a video of a teenage girl, and then a photo of the person suspected of killing her. And I was like, what? Like it was him? I was like, oh my god.
Starting point is 00:34:13 It was shocking. It was very shocking. I'm Jen Swan. I'm a journalist in Los Angeles, and I've spent the past few years investigating the story behind the viral posts and the extraordinary events that followed. I started investing my time to get her justice. They put out something on social media so I'd get calls in the middle of the night all the time. It's like how do you think you're going to get away with something like this?
Starting point is 00:34:38 Like you killed somebody. It's the story of how and why a group of teenagers turn to social media to help track down their friend's killer. This is their story. This is my friend Daisy. Listen to My Friend Daisy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty.
Starting point is 00:35:03 And if you've ever felt the weight of letting go, of people, past versions of yourself, or the expectations placed on you, this episode is for you. Lizzo opens up like never before about self-love, transformation, and finding real peace in a world that constantly tries to define you. It's not me anymore. Whoever Lizzo is to the world is not really even me. And that disconnect is depressing. The Grammy goes to Lizzo.
Starting point is 00:35:35 I think it's also hard when the things that you stand for are the same things that you're being scrutinized for. The weight that is no longer on me is not just fat or physical. I released so much to get to this point. And to be honest with you, I don't feel like I've expressed myself fully in the last two years. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:36:04 The number one hit true crime podcast, The Girlfriends, is back. wherever you get your podcasts. The number one hit true crime podcast, The Girlfriends is back with something new, The Girlfriends Spotlight. Our first two series introduce you to an incredible gang of women who teamed up to fight injustice, showing just how powerful sisterly solidarity can be. We're keeping this mission alive with the Girlfriend Spotlight. Each week, a different woman sits down with me, Anna Sinfield, to share their incredible story
Starting point is 00:36:32 of triumph over adversity. Like June, who founded an all-female rock band in the 1960s. I might as well have said, we're gonna walk on the moon. But she sure showed them who's boss and toured the world. They would just be gobsmacked. And they would rush up after the set
Starting point is 00:36:50 and say, not bad for chicks. So come and join our girl gang. Listen to The Girlfriend Spotlight on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. But what's inside a black hole? Black holes could be a consequence of the way that we understand the universe. Well, we have answers for you in the new iHeart original podcast, Science Stuff. Join me, Jorge Cham, as we tackle questions you've always wanted to know the answer to about animals, space, our brains, and our bodies. Questions like, can you survive being cryogenically frozen?
Starting point is 00:37:40 This is experimental. This means never work for you. What's a quantum computer? It's not just a faster computer. It performs in a fundamentally different way. Do you really have to wait 30 minutes after eating before you can go swimming? It's not really a safety issue. It's more of a comfort issue.
Starting point is 00:37:54 We'll talk to experts, break it down, and give you easy to understand explanations to fascinating scientific questions. So give yourself permission to be a science geek and listen to science stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Randall Winston is with us! Waz up! We're very excited. We're very excited Randall's here. We're talking about sex. JD and Elliot have an epic, epic 24 hours of sex. And it seems that JD has found a way
Starting point is 00:38:32 to bring Elliot all the way to the promised land because she seems to be really enjoying sex. Well, the fact that they have it like six or seven times is ridiculous. And she even brings up, I'm going to need a vagina transplant. Yeah, she says she's going to need a vagina transplant, which is a very funny fantasy, cutting to the guys' roots.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Running through the hole with a vagina in a box. Go, go, go, go. With a vagina in a box, in a cooler. In the cooler. Randall, was that a? They should have done the song, Vagina in a Box. Randall, was vagina transplant something that anyone was worried about getting through the sensors? Because it seems pretty risque to have a vagina in the box, but he says, Dick, three times, two pages later, we'll get rid of that. And they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:39:09 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, like another red herring. I was like, we only have a vagina in the box, but he says, Dick, three times, two pages later, we'll get rid of that and let us keep the vagina. So part of Randall's job was being Bill's liaison to the studio and being like, listen guys,
Starting point is 00:39:36 it's just one vagina in a box. We're not gonna have vaginas in boxes every week. And the great thing about the working with the person, there was a woman, I can't remember if this was Sandy Christmas, it was this Sandy Christmas, it was this very sweet woman who I used to have these conversations with. So I'd get on the phone and she'd be like, now, Randall, how about the vagina in the box? And, you know, and then you later say penis, you know, do we have to have all of that in the show? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:13 And what's funny is they'll often give you, they'll often give you a sheet of all their objections and it's a negotiation. And then even when you get it through, they'd be like, okay, we are fine with the vagina in the box. Please do not show a vagina in a box. Like, even shit, you're like, really guys? You had to write that on the paper?
Starting point is 00:40:32 Like you think we were gonna cut to a vagina for NBC in the box? Right, Randall? Sometimes they say stuff and you're thinking, oh damn, you're way dirtier than I thought. Okay, no. That is not what we meant. This is a true story.
Starting point is 00:40:48 We had to go into VFX, visual effects, and adjust Donald Scrubs in a particular scene because we were seeing too much of a bulge. Oh, Donald's making me. That is how we do it. Yes, mazel tov. Dan, how about thunderous applause? That is how we do it. Let's have some thunderous applause. Thunderous
Starting point is 00:41:07 applause for my junk. And then Dan, if you wouldn't mind put up. Hey, that was, I used to do a Loma at the table reads and most of my readers hired me to just go. Whenever Nurse Roberts couldn't be at the table read, Randall would play her, and his favorite part was doing her mm-hmms. Speaking of, speaking of Aloma, holy cow, she's amazing in this episode. Very funny.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Every one of her lines lands hard. You know what I mean? White boys. You mean it was a secret? All of that stuff. Everything that she said in this episode, I laughed out loud. Now let's get into it right away. The janitor sees Aloma and she sees him and she looks at him like, get the fuck out of
Starting point is 00:41:58 my way. And Randall, Bill is still hanging on to his dream that the janitor was only seen by JD in season one. And we are, Donald and I are detectives that are quickly proving him wrong in every other episode. Yes, yes. I never bought into that, that he was a figment of JD's imagination. Right, it's Mr. Snuffleufagus.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Yeah, yeah. I mean, and remember, because there's some episodes later, I remember an episode I directed where he has a group of henchmen played by our grip team, you know, and they survey are all. And you know, with him and isn't his his side, he has two sidekicks, Troy and Randall, right? Yeah, Randall. I remember Randall played by Martin played Randall, right? Yeah, Randall. I remember Randall. Played by Martin. Played by Martin. Played by Martin,
Starting point is 00:42:48 who was also in Oz the Great and Powerful with me, and he was also in Pirates of the Caribbean. Yes. I love that. The Caribbean. The Caribbean. Let's talk about Colecovision, which comes up at 721. Did you have Colecovision, either one of you? I did not. My friend had Colecovision. And I remember Colecovision being so of you? I did not. My friend had Colecovision. And I remember Colecovision being so awesome because the video games looked exactly like they look in the arcade.
Starting point is 00:43:09 So if you had Donkey Kong, it looked like Donkey Kong from the arcade. And I thought that was Smurfs. And I had Smurfs. Do you remember that game? I don't remember the Smurfs game. Well, if you are interested in video games, please go on.
Starting point is 00:43:21 I'm sure on YouTube they can play you the theme music from Smurfs on Colecovision, and that jam was fire. Was it la la la la la la la la la la la la la? Come on. That was the dope shit. La la la la la la la la la la la. Let's put it this way. If Jay-Z can make a song from Hard Knock Life,
Starting point is 00:43:44 Yes. I'm surprised. Dude, do that again and I'll kick in my beatbox. We got a jam. We're halfway there. Five, six, seven, eight. I love that. All right, Dan, you're going to have to that up with some delay, but we I think it's fire and I think we can beat Hard Knock Life. You you you added me that Donald on set used to do Transformers as a dude late night. Neil Diamond, Neil Diamond singing Transformers.
Starting point is 00:44:23 I thought I did it already, but if I haven't, if you missed it. Do it baby. Transformers more than meets the eye. Keep going, keep going. Autobots face their battles to destroy the evil forces of the Decepticons. By the way, Neil Diamond is your best impersonation. The decepticons By the way Neil Diamond's your best impersonation you also do a pretty good I don't know much, but I know I love you My well you do a better version of Aaron Neville than I do. I don't know mine's trash
Starting point is 00:44:57 I don't know much, but I know I love you That may be all I need. Yeah, yours is way better than mine. Way better than mine. There you go. That's the extent of our impressions. Colecovision, great game system. I felt like a baller because I had it.
Starting point is 00:45:16 And you know, remember the control was like a long rectangle and then there was the little thing on top. And then the circle on the bottom, yeah. Not to be confused with Intellivision, which I didn't have or Intellivision. Wow. Was it Intellivision? It was Colecovision. Well, I guess so. Yeah. Start with the Atari 2600. I remember that everybody had that. Yeah. And then there was Colecovision. Go ahead, Randall.
Starting point is 00:45:41 I feel like the guy with the gaming headset should weigh in. But this makes me sound a hundred years old. Anyway, I feel like the guy with the gaming headset should weigh in. I 100% sure. But this makes me sound a hundred years old. I am currently doing a puzzle during COVID that is all of the original video games. So it's like Atari and like, yeah, so it's, I need that puzzle. It's a mismatch. We got a van Gogh starry night and we are not even getting anywhere near to starting it, but I feel like if it was the old game consoles, we've been had it done already. I'm sending it to you There's an elf mention in this show. I loved elf. I was a huge fan of elf when I was a kid. Me too. Max Wright.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Elf, what are you doing? Elf? The puppet from outer space Who loved to eat cats? I remember being a little kid and the trailer teaser for ALF came on. And I remember being a little kid, my first film critic going, that looks so stupid. Cut to me loving ALF, like having ALF stuffed animals. What was not to love about ALF? I visited the ALF set.
Starting point is 00:46:40 You did. I remember. Yes. Now was it raised up so they could have a puppeteer? Yes. set you did I remember yes now was it raised up so they could have a puppeteer Yes, it was like you know it was it wasn't at a real stage was that a warehouse in Culver City Is I recall Max Wright who was who played the father who was an accomplished? Theater actor and Shakespearean actor and genius actor all around fucking hated it I think that's part the lore, is that he absolutely hated doing a puppet show.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Now, did you watch all the elves? Were you a religious elf? Yeah, I'm sure there's some episodes I missed. I mean, I'm not ready to do the rewatch podcast, but I did. There's a very special elf where, what I remember mostly is crying during Elfwood. Elfwood to visit the girl in the hospital,
Starting point is 00:47:23 and it was like, you know, tonight on a very special Alf. Do you remember when they would like back in the day, for those of you who were too young, they, when there was a sad, like on Scrubs, we had sad episodes all the time, but on old school sitcoms, they would always warn you like tonight on a very special Silver Spoons. The ricker will, The ricker will kill a deer. We recommend, and then we go, we recommend parents watch with their children. Do you remember that?
Starting point is 00:47:52 For sure. But on Scrubs, if it was sad, we just would play the theme song a little slower. Yeah. Imagine you're scrolling through TikTok. You come across a video of a teenage girl, and then a photo of the person suspected of killing her. And I was like, what?
Starting point is 00:48:10 Like it was him? I was like, oh my God. It was shocking. It was very shocking. I'm Jen Swan. I'm a journalist in Los Angeles, and I've spent the past few years investigating the story behind the viral posts and the extraordinary events that followed. I started investing my time to get her justice. They put out something on social media so I'd
Starting point is 00:48:32 get calls in the middle of the night all the time. It's like how do you think you're going to get away with something like this? Like you killed somebody. It's the story of how and why a group of teenagers turn to social media to help track down their friend's killer. This is their story. This is my friend Daisy. Listen to My Friend Daisy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The number one hit true crime podcast, The Girlfriends is back with something new, The Girlfriends Spotlight. Our first two series introduce you to an incredible gang of women who teamed up to fight injustice, showing just how powerful sisterly solidarity can
Starting point is 00:49:21 be. And we're keeping this mission alive with the Girlfriends Spotlight. Each week a different woman sits down with me, Anna Sinfield, to share their incredible story of triumph over adversity. Like Tracy, who survived a terrifying attack. I remembered that feeling of, okay, this is how I die. And turned that darkness into the most incredible journey. I wanna take over the world and just leave this place better than I found it. Which took her all the way to Paris
Starting point is 00:49:51 for the Paralympic Games. Oh my gosh, this is amazing. So come and join our girl gang. Listen to The Girlfriend Spotlight on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. this episode is for you. Lizzo opens up like never before about self-love, transformation, and finding real peace in a world that constantly tries to define you.
Starting point is 00:50:32 It's not me anymore. Whoever Lizzo is to the world is not really even me. And that disconnect is depressing. The Grammy goes to Lizzo. I think it's also hard when the things that you stand for are the same things that you're being scrutinized for. The weight that is no longer on me is not just fat or physical. I released so much to get to this point.
Starting point is 00:50:59 And to be honest with you, I don't feel like I've expressed myself fully in the last two years. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever wondered if your pet is lying to you? Why is my cat not here? And I go in and she's eating my lunch. Or if hypnotism is real? We will use this suggestion in order to enhance your cognitive control. But what's inside a black hole?
Starting point is 00:51:23 Black holes could be a consequence of the way that we understand the universe. Well, we have answers for you in the new iHeart original podcast, Science Stuff. Join me, Jorge Cham, as we tackle questions you've always wanted to know the answer to about animals, space, our brains, and our bodies. Questions like, can you survive being cryogenically frozen? This is experimental. This means never work for you. What's a quantum computer?
Starting point is 00:51:45 It's not just a faster computer. It performs in a fundamentally different way. Do you really have to wait 30 minutes after eating before you can go swimming? It's not really a safety issue. It's more of a comfort issue. We'll talk to experts, break it down, and give you easy to understand explanations to fascinating scientific questions. So give yourself permission to be a science geek and listen to science stuff on the iHeartVideo app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:52:13 So there was Silver Spoons when the record killed a deer. There was different strokes when Dudley got molested by the bike shop owner. Remember that? I do remember that. And everything happened to Dudley or Arnold. Yeah, and then I don't know what happened on Alf, but I don't know if they made the announcement it must have been serious. Tonight. Tonight. Tonight on a very special episode of Alf.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Alf learns to touch himself. Oh boy. Oh boy. See, it went the wrong way. I used to have an Alf stuffed animal and, oh nevermind. Well, that made it sound like I fucked the doll, I didn't. I used to have an elf stuffed animal and, well nevermind. Well that made it sound like I fucked the doll. I didn't.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I just, I just. It did sound like you were about to say you fucked the doll. It sounded like you were about to say, yeah, I fucked the doll. Did Alf have a tail? I don't know. No, no, no, he did not. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Joelle, can you please look up if Alf had a tail? Alf did not have a tail. You feel really confident about that. You didn't see Alf's ass that much. Okay, let's talk about how well Johnny does in this episode. Yeah, in the monologue section, everybody's great in the, oh, Joel, what? You looked your face lit up.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Alf does have a tail. I told you. Bullshit, Joel! Bullshit! He sent you the picture, hold on. Donald, you fucking liar. I just don't remember out the long tail. Listen, though, it's like a dog's tail. And it only because you can see him like he's looking out the window in a single shot.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Listen, but I want to see if the I barely remember episodes of Scrubs. How am I supposed to remember? Oh, he does have a tail. So I have a memory. I think what I was trying to say with the stuffed animals I used to pull Alf's tail through his legs to make it look like it was Al's penis Oh my gosh. All right. Johnny C is good in this episode.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Yes. He's not only that, before we do that, let's go back a little bit. I didn't know that Kelso's actual name was Kelso, Kelsana, bitches. Kelsana bitch. Kelsana bitch. Yeah. Well, I don't think that comes up again, but this is the first episode where he introduces his wife's name, Enid.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Right. And I thought that was just very interesting that, you know, he changed his name to fit in, to be, to sound more American. So instead of Kelsonevich, it then became Kelso. I think everybody did, including Donald Faison and Judy and Sarah, everybody was great in these monologue sections. Oh my god. It was kind of a cool, it's funny because that documentary style became very common in shows like The Office and Modern Family that were doing sort of the shaky cam documentary style.
Starting point is 00:54:56 It was not a style we did on Scrubs, but because of this segment, I don't know why the interviewer was so hunky-jerky with the damn camera. I mean, put the fucking thing on a tripod and calm down. But the interviewer was making like his own shaky cam TV show. But I thought everyone, it seemed like the mandate was that they were not gonna have cuts in them. They would all be long takes. And I thought everyone did a really nice job in those scenes. Do you recall if they prepared us for that?
Starting point is 00:55:21 Because the fact that I knew my lines like that was very weird. You surprised yourself. I'm watching and I'm like they're gonna cut soon because there's no way I remember all of this. We talked about it a lot and we knew it was gonna be one take. If I remember correctly, those are half the monologues that we did. I mean part of the reason why the episode is so long is because those chunks, and I remember Johnny C. I feel like he was disappointed
Starting point is 00:55:48 because there was another long take. So even though this episode is, what did we say, 24, 28? 28, 28. I think the editor's cut was closer to 40. Yeah. Wow. And there's a really cool section later on where Donald and Judy are side by side and they're still not cutting So they were able to time out. I don't know was Judy in the room reading with you Donald
Starting point is 00:56:11 Do you remember? No, that that was it. They gave us earwigs. I think for that Because your way earwig if for those who don't know is a tinier piece that goes in your ear that you can't see the Camera can't see I remember rehearsing it with the voice track. I think they recorded Judy first. I could be wrong, though. I think they recorded Judy first, and then I went in after her to record. Well, the timing of that was perfect,
Starting point is 00:56:38 because you had to stall, so you were thinking, and then you took a sip of your water. It totally looked natural, but it was well done by Larry Trilling.illing man. I that was one of the that was one of the Highlights in my notes that I wrote, you know This was his first episode to direct for us and we gave him a pretty, you know You guys gave him a big Randall and you and Bill gave him a pretty big episode to produce I wonder if it was ever like yo, what money do I get to make this go easier for me?
Starting point is 00:57:08 You know what I mean? Like, I'm guessing he was told that it was gonna be a long one because, right Randall? Or was that decided after the fact? It was decided after the fact. We didn't know it was gonna come out then, but we knew from timing the table read that we were up against it
Starting point is 00:57:23 and that we didn't want to make cuts in those You know soliloquy pieces, you know directly to the camera for some reason I feel like production wise there was just a lot of talk about the pizza clock like getting the right angle and how much Beats it would take out and you know be we were in that bedroom for so long which was a tight set Yeah, and Sarah and I you know, we were friends We were in that bedroom for so long, which was a tight set. Yeah. And Sarah and I, you know, we were friends and we really loved each other, but that was a very bizarre thing to have that much fake sex all over one set for many days on end. Well, yeah, not just that.
Starting point is 00:57:59 You guys were very much in each other's face. I was going to ask you, you guys made out a lot in this episode. Yeah. How awkward was gonna ask you, you guys made out a lot in this episode. Yeah. How awkward was that for you? I think it was, you always hear actors talking about, oh, it's all very choreographed and it's not weird at all.
Starting point is 00:58:16 It is weird. There's everyone standing around, you're making out with your good friend. It was bizarre. I remember being, because also a lot of most times she's like, okay, there's a quick makeout scene. It's a TV show. You know, that's all it ever is.
Starting point is 00:58:31 This was like, you know, wrestling around and groping each other and for days. So it was weird. So it was weird. Face to face, not only face to face. Banaka, Donald, you gotta have Banaka. Banaka was the deal back in the day. We had a boom man named Kevin,
Starting point is 00:58:45 what was his last name, Randall? Do you remember? I can't think of it right now. Kevin, the library's- Married to Tanya. Tanya, yeah. The library also hires the whole crew, everybody, so he should really know Kevin's last name.
Starting point is 00:58:55 I did. But Kevin used to see that we all used to have Banaka. This is like back in the day still, that we had like spray the aerosol, Banaka. And we made a joke like, oh, it'd be great, because the boom mic's right over your head. We were like, it'd be great if there was a boom, if there was binocca on the boom, because then we can just reach up, pull the boom mic down and grab it off.
Starting point is 00:59:13 And the next day we show up and he had Velcroed a binocca to the end of the boom mic. Not the mic itself, the stick and the pole. And Kevin Santee. Kevin Santee, thank you. And literally, he wasn't just a joke. He kept it up there for like months. And whenever you needed binocchio, you just reach up, grab the boom pole, pull it off, do a spray,
Starting point is 00:59:32 Velcro it back and stick it up. I used to go crazy with the binocchio because I felt like maybe if I spray enough in my mouth, the aerosol and the freaking mint will get me high enough. Really? When your weed was wearing off? So Donald beyond, his weed had worn off and he was on set too long. He's like, let me try and get high off Benaka.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Yeah, I remember one day, Randall came into the room. Randall, tell me if you remember this. And you were like, Donald. And we were on set and you were like, Donald, wake up. Do I need to splash cold water in your face or something? Wake your ass up. Were you high or something?
Starting point is 01:00:02 in your face or something, wake your ass up. Were you high or something? Uh, yes. And I remember being like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But in my mind, I was like, they know. They know. It was probably because you were taking too long to get to set. No. The only time I took a long time to get to set
Starting point is 01:00:20 was when Grand Theft Auto Vice City came out. And I remember one time they were trying to get me to set, and I was on my way out the door and Randall's pushing my door in as I'm pulling it. And I was like, hi. And he was like, get up stairs. Randall, you had to be bad cop. I had to get the grip on grabbing people, steer people. Yes, I remember sending a PA to your house one time Zach somebody had to like climb over the fence to get you to like wait. It was a really bad moment No, what happened was the pound what had happened was the power went out the power went out in my in my on my street or my neighborhood and So the alarms didn't go off and and also the phones didn't work
Starting point is 01:01:03 and so I woke up to a PA knocking on my window, which is the worst sight if you're an actor. It's like the most horrible feeling. And I remember getting to set really late and Bill looked at me and he's like, no, no, don't worry, we'll split the 50 grand. I think during Scrubs, I had a real moment of peace about producing, which was I gave
Starting point is 01:01:28 up on the idea of everything being okay for more than five minutes at a time, because nothing's ever always okay. It's like, nobody comes to my door to be like, everything's great. You know, somebody took my candy. We don't have any film, be like, everything's great. It's always like, you know, somebody took my candy. We don't have any film, you know, somebody's late. Did we ever run out of film? We came, we came close. We used a lot of short ends one particular week,
Starting point is 01:01:55 because part of the reason that we were able to fly under the radar financially. And one of the reasons that that show is one of the last shows to be on film is because we shot on 16. We shot super 16, not 35, so we cut our production costs you know by a lot but we made a great print. I mean we showed that show on a DGA in the DGA screening room and it held up. So yeah, for those of you don't know this was one of the last shows still being shot on film, especially 16 millimeter film probably at the time. Probably nothing is right now, I would guess. Unless it's like a big budget feature on Netflix or something. But most people
Starting point is 01:02:37 don't do that anymore anyway. And it's one of the reasons why people always ask how come there's no blu-ray and high resolution 16 by 9 version of the show. It's because when we made it, we didn't and we were done with it no one anticipated all this streaming stuff. So it was never like up res to be 4k video. Right. They didn't cut the film and then and then we do it and some of the film that we used you can't even get anymore. A lot of the flashback scenes, I think you'll see it in season one, are shot on something that was called reversal film, which was like from the Vietnam War.
Starting point is 01:03:14 It could have this look of- Yeah, that's why they have a specific texture. In fact, there's clearly a different film stock being shot for these interview sequences because they're very grainy and have a different color Sort of palette than the show itself Did you know when did we switch when did we switch over to chip then when did we switch over to? Digital because I know we do it in season 9 it would only be in season 9
Starting point is 01:03:36 I think it was before season 9 to be honest with you. I don't think so I mean because because it was talked about so much shows because NBC had made this mandate that everybody was going digital. But then when they looked at our numbers, they were like, keep doing what you're doing. Like, I think maybe in that season nine, we went digital. Like, I honestly can't remember off the top of my head. you would see them changing mags or somebody getting the film ready for the day and having to put the film in a mag so that it could fit on the camera and reaching into this bag, it looked like a bag is what it looked like. Well, it was a picture like a miniature camping tent
Starting point is 01:04:19 that would fit on a desktop and it was blacked out so that they could put their hands in there and not expose the film while loading the camera magazines. Right. I used to be like, I remember when we switched over to, I guess it was season nine where we switched over to Chip. And I remember being like, this is the easiest thing in the world. Why didn't we do this before? Like we could do takes for days and days and days. I remember all my fuck ups. Every time I missed a line or forgot a line and everything like that, I remember being like, how much, how much more room do we have on the mag before, before, you know what I mean? Before we're
Starting point is 01:04:55 out and we have to, and we have to change the mag again. You'd have 11, you'd have about 11 minutes on a, on a 60 millimeter magazine and, uh, and, and you'd be like, trying to like trying to get it and be like how much more do we got before we roll out? I got it, I got it, I got it. With digital you can go forever now. You'd be like don't cut, don't cut, we gotta cut, we only got like 19 feet. All right fine cut. When I say to Sarah we're gonna need a stool sample not for medical reasons, my robot needs food. sample, not for medical reasons. My robot needs food. I made that up. I'm proud to say and Sarah cracked up at it. And it's so random and weird, but I love it. Okay, I gotta feed my robot.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Pooh, robot eats poo, patient poo. Patient poo for the robot. It all comes down to poo. And I laughed out loud when Sarah is in 1704, Sarah's making fun of my laugh because she's like already over me. And she's like, Oh my God, that is so funny.
Starting point is 01:05:53 That she does a funny impression of you because I mean, that laugh has got a lot of genuine laughs with the silly JD laugh all through the season. Yeah. I feel like that's how every, I think that's how every relationship should be. What you see is what you get. You know what I mean? But unfortunately, unfortunately what you see and
Starting point is 01:06:14 what you get sometimes you think you want it and then eventually it makes you want to kill the person which it turns out to turns out to be with Elliot and JD. She loved the laugh in the beginning. Oh, I love it, it's so cute. And then at the end of the show, she's like, fuck that laugh, dude. Laugh like that again one more time, I dare you. I dare you.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Laugh like that, it's like, say what again, say what again. Say what again, motherfucker. Say what one more time. I know, I hear you. Isn't that so sad though, when a relationship goes sour and all the things you thought were so adorable you now just fucking hate? Yeah. That was my life back in the day. Oh, he's got such potential. We have some guests here, Randall. So we have a guest that come on the show, Randall. I know that you don't listen to the podcast. So
Starting point is 01:06:59 Randall listens to the podcast. He does. I know. Yeah, he does. Yeah, he does. Because somebody was like, yo, they talked about you on the podcast the other day. Yeah, that means that Randall was told by someone and he went and listened to one episode. He was like, oh, they got a podcast? Oh, check that out. Oh, somebody's doing a podcast. They're doctor's real friends. I was like, ooh.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Ooh, nice name. Hey, I got shout out. All right, we're going to go to a break. And when we come back, we'll have our guests. Imagine you're scrolling through TikTok. You come across a video of a teenage girl and then a photo of the person suspected of killing her. And I was like, what? Like it was him? I was like, oh my God. It was shocking. It was very shocking.
Starting point is 01:07:43 I'm Jen Swan. I'm a journalist in Los Angeles and I've spent the past few years investigating the story behind the viral posts and the extraordinary events that followed. I started investing my time to get her justice. They put out something on social media so I'd get calls in the middle of the night all the time. It's like how do you think you're're gonna get away with something like this? Like you killed somebody. It's the story of how and why a group of teenagers turn to social media to help track down their friend's killer.
Starting point is 01:08:15 This is their story. This is my friend Daisy. Listen to My Friend Daisy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty. And if you've ever felt the weight of letting go, of people, past versions of yourself, or the expectations placed on you, this episode is for you. Lizzo opens up like never before about self-love, transformation and finding real peace in a world that constantly tries to define you.
Starting point is 01:08:50 It's not me anymore. Whoever Lizzo is to the world is not really even me and that disconnect is depressing. The Grammy goes to Lizzo. I think it's also hard when the things that you stand for are the same things that you're being scrutinized for. The weight that is no longer on me is not just fat or physical. I released so much to get to this point. And to be honest with you, I don't feel like I've expressed myself fully in the last two years. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:09:31 The number one hit true crime podcast, The Girlfriends is back with something new, The Girlfriends Spotlight. Our first two series introduced you to an incredible gang of women who teamed up to fight injustice, showing just how powerful sisterly solidarity can be. And we're keeping this mission alive with the Girlfriend Spotlight. Each week, a different woman sits down with me, Anna Sinfield,
Starting point is 01:09:57 to share their incredible story of triumph over adversity. Like Tracy, who survived a terrifying attack. I remembered that feeling of, okay, this is how I die. And turned that darkness into the most incredible journey. I want to take over the world and just leave this place better than I found it. Which took her all the way to Paris for the Paralympic Games. Oh my gosh, this is amazing. So come and join our girl gang. Oh my gosh, this is amazing. So come and join our girl gang. Listen to The Girlfriend Spotlight on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever wondered if your pet is lying to you?
Starting point is 01:10:40 Why is my cat not here? And I go in and she's eating my lunch. Or if hypnotism is real? You will use this suggestion in order to enhance your cognitive control. But what's inside a black hole? Black holes could be a consequence of the way that we understand the universe. Well, we have answers for you in the new iHeart original podcast, Science Stuff. Join me, Jorge Cham, as we tackle questions you've always wanted to know the answer to about animals, space, our brains, and our bodies.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Questions like, can you survive being cryogenically frozen? This is experimental. This may never work for you. What's a quantum computer? It's not just a faster computer. It performs in a fundamentally different way. Do you really have to wait 30 minutes after eating before you can go swimming? It's not really a safety issue.
Starting point is 01:11:21 It's more of a comfort issue. We'll talk to experts, break it down, and give you easy to understand explanations to fascinating scientific questions. So give yourself permission to be a science geek and listen to Science Stuff on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So Randall, when we do the commercial breaks and the song comes back it doesn't have the mm-hmm a lot of a lot of our Fans like to add their own mm-hmm. That's part. Oh Barbara
Starting point is 01:11:57 Barbara and Robby are twins One of you's a doctor God things are getting weird you guys. Two different women have entered and they appear to be identical twins in different parts of the world. Where are you guys calling from? I'm calling from UK. You're in the UK?
Starting point is 01:12:14 I'm calling from Pisa in Italy. And you're in Italy. Oh wow. So you guys, are you a doctor? Yes I am. Yes I am but I'm not working yet. Okay. I had some problems for coronavirus which delayed some technical issues. Okay. Okay. And then Robbie what about you are you a doctor too? No no I graduated in
Starting point is 01:12:41 law last February. So you've got a lawyer and a doctor. Wow, your parents must be very happy. Very proud. Yeah, and last time we saw each other was at the beginning of March when I brought Babi to the airport to take her flight to go to the UK and move there. Oh, so you've been apart for a long time.
Starting point is 01:13:03 You must miss each other. Yes, a lot. A lot. That's why I also asked you to do this meeting with Bertha, because I knew that it was very important to her. It is important also for me, but she had a very rough time. Oh, well, we're here to cheer her up. I'm so glad that you called in, because not only do you
Starting point is 01:13:21 have the legendary Donald Faison here, and he's always funny, you have Randall Winston, who was our line producer, but you may know him as Leonard the security guard, and also he played Death. And we've gotten a lot of questions for Death on our Instagram pages. So finally, you can ask Death any question you have. That's wonderful. Thank you. I also played much mouth from a much mouth from freaking the fat Albert jump out of the gang. Yes. You had three different parts, Randall. You had that big ass helmet on your head too.
Starting point is 01:14:02 All right. So let's get ahead. Ladies, ask a question. I would like to start it because I am in a theater company as well. So sometimes we argue about the best ways to perform. You know, when you have to feel in character and you have to feel what your character is feeling in order
Starting point is 01:14:24 to act. So I was wondering whether sometimes you had some difficulties with that and to make a very strange scene, you couldn't really feel what JD or Turk or Seth or Leonard. Thank you for including him. I appreciate that. Robbie, thank you for including him. My pleasure. So if you had to find some strange way to perform, I thought about this question
Starting point is 01:14:54 when I was listening to your podcast last week, and Donald said when he had to memorize the line, had to memorize the line, you need the surgical consult, you had to make a song about it. So my question is not about memorizing things, it's more about acting. The feeling, yeah. You know, let me... Okay. Let Leonard go first.
Starting point is 01:15:21 When I strapped on the arm. Here's the thing, You'll work hard, you'll work so hard to try to feel everything. And that's what comes with being an actor. You're going to work harder than you've ever worked in your life to try to feel it. But when the camera rolls and you don't feel it, you better act the shit out of it. You know what I mean? Because at the end end of the day it still has to be made so you're gonna work your hardest to try and feel the emotion and find the emotion and pinpoint what it is that you you know you'll make notes and you'll do all of
Starting point is 01:15:57 that stuff but there comes a time when you're doing it where all of that preparation and stuff isn't helping. You know what I mean? And so when it's not helping, it's time for you to act the shit out of it. And that's just how it goes. You know what I mean? I would say, um, there's times when it's really just natural. And then there's times where it's feels forced and you don't feel present. You can see the cameraman and you can see the crew and your stomach's growling
Starting point is 01:16:22 cause you're hungry and you know, you had an argument with someone in your family and all these things that happen in any job and you're in your head and you're distracted and the trick with acting is to always be as present as possible. The good news about acting on film and television is you really only need to do it in spurts because you're trying to shine for your other actor but also when the camera's on you, when it's on, no matter what the shot is, when you're doing a play, you have to maintain that for two hours and seem real.
Starting point is 01:16:52 But with film and TV acting, the real challenge is to get it in spurts enough so that it will cut together and be believable. But yeah, it can be really challenging, especially when there's so much distraction. There's phones ringing and there's a helicopter overhead and you're upset about something in your private life. It's a real challenge to do everything you can to be present in the moment.
Starting point is 01:17:19 And when you can't be present, that's what acting is. Then you fake it till you make it. Fake it till you make it fake it till you make it. Now, Randall, when you were playing Leonard, did you did you didn't didn't Leonard have a love interest by the way? Oh, yes, I had to make out with her. She was a senior. Yes, she was a senior citizen. Wasn't she a fellow security guard or no no she was she maybe she was a
Starting point is 01:17:46 candy striper or something i just i was an intern she was an intern oh robbie knows she was an old intern i like it yes robbie take me to task robbie that was uh i i had to uh were you open mouth kissing her um that was specifically requested. Yes, that we... Was it by her or was it in the script? Um, you know, that part's a little foggy. I think it was... But, you know, I think... So to Robbie's question, how did you maintain being president
Starting point is 01:18:20 in the moment when you were kissing the senior citizen? You know what, Robbie, I should have been listening. I've been listening to her. Yeah, you were listening to her mouth. Okay, ladies, good question. Yes. Go ahead with another one. Donald left. He was so offended by that question, he left.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Okay, so my question is, we watched Scrabbs a lot of time, and the first time we watched it we were just teenagers, and so we watched it in Italian. So I wondered, have you ever listened to yourself dubbed in other languages such as Italian or Spanish or Japanese? Yes. Yeah. I hate how they dubbed me in Spanish and Italian and stuff like that. I never have a deep voice. I'm always like Yeah, I prefer your voice You know what's funny is that in most countries when you become a known actor they pick the same actor to always do you So if Donald's in one, if he's in Scrubs,
Starting point is 01:19:26 and then he goes off to do another film that has nothing to do with Scrubs, it's usually the same actor being Donald. And I hate that, I hate that that one person is like, oh no, was he playing in this? Oh, don't worry about it, I did him on Scrubs, I got this. I did him on Scrubs! I did him on Scrubs!
Starting point is 01:19:44 I did him on Scrubs! I did him on Scrubs! I did him on Scrubs! I did him on Scrubs! I did him on Scrubs! I got this. I'm a sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh-sh so many voices traveling around, especially when the show was on non-stop, we'd travel around the world and you'd turn on the TV and there you were speaking German. It was very funny. I remember then there was a thing where we had Germans in the show, Hermann the German, right, with the balloon thing, wasn't that a thing? Yeah. And then I remember in Germany, they had to change where they were from because it made no sense that their language was different. Like, you know, so you know what, like, think about it, if the show has a character that's speaking a language, and all of a sudden the show's dubbed into that language,
Starting point is 01:20:27 they then have to switch that person's language, so it doesn't make sense. I think we made them Belgian. Yes, I think you're right. Now, Randall, how do you feel being dubbed as Death and Leonard? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:42 As long as my fan base. All, all dozen of them. Did you ever hear, have you ever heard yourself dubbed in other languages, Randall? I have not. The good thing about dubbing death is that you don't see his mouth move, so it doesn't look bad. Exactly. I prefer subtitles, but they don't, they don't do that.
Starting point is 01:21:01 A lot of countries just dub it. I don't prefer subtitles. I do not like subtitles. You'd rather be dubbed. Yeah, I'm a very poor reader, so having to read subtitles and watch the screen. Does your dyslexia, I've never asked you this before, but does that make you less likely to watch subtitled films? No.
Starting point is 01:21:23 A good movie is a good movie no matter what. Even with a learning disability. Even if it is written on the screen, my dyslexia isn't so bad that I can't keep up. Right. I just never asked you. I wondered if you said, ah, fuck it, it'd be a pain in the ass for me to read these subtitles or not.
Starting point is 01:21:40 No, I would prefer not to read. I'd prefer to listen to a dubbed mix. Right. Got it. Do you guys have another question? Oh, you're giving them three. It must be because they're separated sisters. They're separated sisters. This is the first time they've talked to each other since March. Right. They're using us. They don't care about scrubs. They just want to get on our Zoom and talk to each other. It's like I did a show back in a day called Free to Be a Family and we did a space bridge to Russia and this is like our space bridge between the UK and Italy.
Starting point is 01:22:11 So was that like free to be, was that like free to be you and me? Yeah, it was free to be you and me. When we're going to have, we're going to have to send some free to be you and me songs one day. We're free to be, I can say it in Russian. Mogli bwi bwiit, iya eti, eti iya mogli bwi bwiyt ad noi senyoy. Right. Wow.
Starting point is 01:22:29 We're free to be, you and me, you and me, we're free to be a family. I only know a little Russian from the Billy Joel Colept album when he played Russia. And he said, Menya zavut, Billy Joel! And the crowd went crazy. I know that because I got to rap, we're free to be you and me with the fat boys. A lot of people don't remember the fat boys, but one of them was an amazing beat boxer and he beatboxed while I wrapped. Anyway, so if you guys have another question, did you guys ever answer any,
Starting point is 01:23:01 any, any calls on the scrubs phone that were from out of the country? No, I never actually, when we did this episode with call Turk and we had to Turk, Cal Turk, we had to get a real phone line and bill thought it would be hilarious. Uh, I don't know if it was you or bill Randall, but said, you know, rather than do a five, five, five number, let's get a real number and have it all ring on a cell phone. And so the cell phone was in the Scrubs production office
Starting point is 01:23:26 and it would just ring all the time. And when you're randomly just walking through and you had a minute to kill, you just answer and talk to fans because it would just ring nonstop, right? Yeah. Nonstop for like five years. And we kept a map and we'd put pins in it, you know,
Starting point is 01:23:41 every time we would get calls. Yeah, that was cool. It was all over the world. Imagine you're scrolling through TikTok, you come across a video of a teenage girl and then a photo of the person suspected of killing her. And I was like, what? Like, it was him. I was like, oh, my God. It was shocking. It was very shocking.
Starting point is 01:24:01 I'm Jen Swan. I'm a journalist in Los Angeles, and I've spent the past few years investigating the story behind the viral posts and the extraordinary events that followed. I started investing my time to get her justice. They put out something on social media so I'd get calls in the middle of the night all the time. It's like how do you think you're going to get away with something like this? Like you killed somebody.
Starting point is 01:24:25 It's the story of how and why a group of teenagers turn to social media to help track down their friend's killer. This is their story. This is my friend Daisy. Listen to My Friend Daisy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty. And if you've ever felt the weight of letting go of people, past versions of yourself, or the expectations placed on you, this episode is for you. Lizzo opens up like never before about self-love, transformation, and finding real peace in a world that constantly
Starting point is 01:25:06 tries to define you. It's not me anymore. Whoever Lizzo is to the world is not really even me and that disconnect is depressing. The Grammy goes to Lizzo. I think it's also hard when the things that you stand for are the same things that you're being scrutinized for. The weight that is no longer on me is not just fat or physical. I released so much to get to this point.
Starting point is 01:25:34 And to be honest with you, I don't feel like I've expressed myself fully in the last two years. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The number one hit true crime podcast, The Girlfriends is back with something new, The Girlfriends Spotlight. Our first two series introduce you to an incredible gang of women who teamed up to fight injustice, showing just how powerful sisterly solidarity
Starting point is 01:26:06 can be. And we're keeping this mission alive with the Girlfriend Spotlight. Each week, a different woman sits down with me, Anna Sinfield, to share their incredible story of triumph over adversity. Like Tracy, who survived a terrifying attack. I remembered that feeling of, okay, this is how I die. And turned that darkness into the most incredible journey. I want to take over the world and just leave this place better than I found it. Which took her all the way to Paris for the Paralympic Games.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Oh, my gosh. This is amazing. Yeah. So come and join our girl gang. Listen to The Girlfriend Spotlight on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'll come to you. I'll come to you.
Starting point is 01:26:53 I'll come to you. Have you ever wondered if your pet is lying to you? Why is my cat not here? And I go in and she's eating my lunch. Or if hypnotism is real? You will use this suggestion in order to enhance your cognitive control. What's inside a black hole?
Starting point is 01:27:08 Black holes could be a consequence of the way that we understand the universe. Well, we have answers for you in the new iHeart original podcast, Science Stuff. Join me, Jorge Cham, as we tackle questions you've always wanted to know the answer to about animals, space, our brains, and our bodies. Questions like, can you survive being cryogenically frozen? This is experimental. This means never work for you. What's a quantum computer? It's not just a faster computer. It performs in a fundamentally different way.
Starting point is 01:27:34 Do you really have to wait 30 minutes after eating before you can go swimming? It's not really a safety issue. It's more of a comfort issue. We'll talk to experts, break it down down and give you easy to understand explanations to fascinating scientific questions. So give yourself permission to be a science geek and listen to science stuff on the iHeartVideo app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, ladies, one last question. Go ahead. That's the thing. I started to rewatch the show as well during this quarantine, because my boyfriend was with me
Starting point is 01:28:05 and he never watched Scrubs before. So I wanted to rewatch it with him. And we watched it on Amazon Prime. And I noticed the thing that you mentioned sometimes in the podcast that they changed a few songs. Especially one, it really pissed me off, the change list. It was the one in the second season when JD and Elliot kiss again and they start again and it's dreaming of you of the coral
Starting point is 01:28:32 yeah and I was so waiting for that scene and when it arrived the song was a different one so I was so pissed off and we are too yeah so I was so pissed off. I get it. We are too. Yeah. So I was wondering whether you have some one song or two that you really, really like and you're attached to it in, you know, in one scene of Scrubs and you would really be angry if someone changed. Wow. Good question. Well, you know, anytime Josh Raden did music on the show, if that got taken off of the show, I would be very upset. One, because Josh is a very close buddy of mine. And two, his songs, it seems like, were made for the episodes of Scrubs.
Starting point is 01:29:23 You know what I mean? Like, I don't know if Zach and Josh had a thing where Zach would be like, yo, I need you to write a song about this. And he'd be like, I got it. No, but I mean, the example that comes to mind, same thing with me, is Robbie, is Josh's song, because we've told this on the podcast before,
Starting point is 01:29:40 but when he wrote that song Winter that played at Brenner Frazier's character's funeral, it was the first song he'd ever written. Like he didn't have... Everyone was like, oh my God, this is amazing. Where's your album? He's like, album? This is the only song I've ever written. So that one was particularly special to all of us because Josh was our friend.
Starting point is 01:29:58 He started playing guitar late in life. He wasn't someone who played as a kid. And all of a sudden, with the thanks to Bill, putting it on the show, his career blew up. And he traveled when the world is not under lockdown. He travels all around the world. And you guys should see him when he comes to Italy, because you'll recognize a lot of his music that was in scrubs. Another person I want to just mention was Colin Hay, who was really special to the show. And we're trying to get... Randall, I need your help, by the way. The fans are all listening. I need to get Colin's information because we'd like to have him on for the episode. He was on in season two
Starting point is 01:30:30 Okay, I can get you whatever I had is my last contact But Colin was a real friend of the show and fun and funny and had a good sense of humor about himself There was a song I think it's in this season, the Christmas episode, in Donald, you are running, and we play Sinner Man. Yeah. That song feels super powerful in the episode. And we were all disappointed when songs got changed up, particularly in those first couple seasons, because we were sort of like the bastard stepchild over there, and like always held to a very strict low budget number We licensed a lot of songs not for forever, you know When you license the song they have something called in perpetuity and all of the media that is now known or yet to be figured
Starting point is 01:31:16 Out and you can keep the song in the show So there's one and two the music wasn't licensed that way. So we had to make some of those decisions about which baby to kill. Okay. Oh, but Randall, I always assumed it was that, I didn't know what you're implying is that as the seasons go on, you then did start doing contracts that would cover streaming,
Starting point is 01:31:36 but no one knew what streaming was at the time. Exactly, exactly. So like the first couple of seasons, the first couple of seasons, if the licensing has run out and they didn't re-negotiate or sign on Like the first couple of seasons, the first couple of seasons, if the licensing has run out and they didn't re-negotiate or sign on to continue the licensing, the network automatically just changed the song.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Yeah, I mean, I actually had to sit with a music editor and music licensing for like a week or so after the seasons were over in the summertime to figure out like what songs were. Oh, I always wondered who was putting these songs on. We've talked about that on the podcast that you don't listen to, but we always wondered what intern somewhere is choosing these like second best songs.
Starting point is 01:32:20 It was an exercise in killing babies. Like everything, it was great, but they're like they're like you absolutely cannot have all of this, you know, what do you want to save right you're not going to have center man forever. All right, ladies, we have to move on because death has to take his kids swimming and but thank you I'm sorry that you I feel sad that your two sisters that are separated. But thank you. I'm sorry that you're I feel sad that you're two sisters that are separated. That's horrible. Is there anything you want to say to each other? Yeah, is there anything you want to say to each other while everyone's listening? It's a free call. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 01:32:53 We actually rehearsed it before. Can we take a picture with you? Yes, of course. Yeah, let me just get fresh for you. Let me get fresh. Here we go. Thank you you? Yes, of course. Yeah, let me just get fresh for you. Let me get fresh. Here we go. Thank you. No doubt.
Starting point is 01:33:08 Thank you. Thank you, ladies, so much. Thank you. Be safe. Thank you so much. Be well. You too. Be safe.
Starting point is 01:33:14 1909 in the bowling alley, two people on the left side of the screen spiked the lens, looked directly into the camera. I'm not sure if they're here. The bowling alley, is that not the day when our prop man got stuck under the camera. I'm not sure. Oh my God. The bowling alley. Is that not the day when our prop man got stuck under the ball return? Yes it is. Yes it is.
Starting point is 01:33:32 He went down to retrieve the ball. Was that a prop man? He reached in, it was proper set dressing. Or Patrick. Might've been Patrick Bolton. No it wasn't Patrick. It wasn't Patrick. It was somebody who we laughed at
Starting point is 01:33:41 much longer before we helped him. It was the thing came down on him and we thought it was hilarious. It was like a cartoon You saw his legs and then suddenly somebody was like, oh my god We probably take get him out of there. I Remember I He wasn't with us very much longer after that. He's not Soon after he hid rowdy in the ceiling. He went to, that guy, no that guy went to Jimmy Kimmel.
Starting point is 01:34:11 Ah. Okay. So anyway, two people at the bowling alley look right in the lens if you're interested in your new hobby of finding people who spike the lens. Donald, you say, my baby knows how to knock him down. That was funny. My baby does know how to knock him down. That was funny. My baby does know not that was a lot of fun I don't okay like most episodes we've watched so far when watching this
Starting point is 01:34:30 I didn't remember any of it and I thought that was the cutest thing I thought Turk and Carla was so cute and so on point for the joke when JD's like, you know Couples go through this. This is what happens at name Show me a happy couple. And then right away you see Turk and Carla enjoying themselves. Yeah. I think that was wonderful.
Starting point is 01:34:49 And they're so sweet together. I mean, you just love them. And then especially, of course, when you cut to the documentary footage thing and they're being so adorable and both saying how much they love each other. No, and you're rooting for them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:03 Yeah, yeah. And not necessarily for Elliot and JD in this episode. Even though it starts off where you're rooting for them, you can tell once it gets to the bad times, you're like, wow, these guys really aren't good for each other. It went sour so quick, though. Very well, you only have a half an hour to tell the story. No, I'm saying like in the world of the show,
Starting point is 01:35:24 they dated for like two weeks and then they were like, this isn't working. I was, I think that was a decision by bill because he wanted, you know, he didn't want to have that protracted. Will they or won't they? Will they won't they the friends thing, you know, or then he ended up doing it anyway. Yes.
Starting point is 01:35:42 Well, but that's the thing. Well, even at the end, right. But even at the end of the episode, you say, you know, the therapy, do I think it'll work? Yeah, I do. And JD's right. JD's right, it does work.
Starting point is 01:35:58 It just doesn't work at that moment in time. Yeah. In the long run, in the grand scheme of things, these two are meant to be together. That's so sad though. I was sad watching it, that the two people who love each other who can't... I'm just a sucker for unrequited love and love that cannot be. And here's two people that we want to be together, but they can't. But that's when Harry met Sally, like you said. That's when Harry met Sally all over again. You know what I mean? That's when Harry met Sally, like you said. That's when Harry met Sally all over again.
Starting point is 01:36:24 You know what I mean? That's such a... First of all, one of my favorite movies, Billy Crystal and Meg Ryan. But that story is great. You know? It reminds me of a Fiona Apple lyric when she says, only kisses on the cheek from now on. And in a little while, we'll only have to wave. So sad.
Starting point is 01:36:48 No, no, not baby anymore. All right, listen. If I need you, I'll just use your simple name. Keep going, finish it. Only kisses on the cheek from now on and in a little while we'll only have to wave. That's so fucked up. You only have to wave.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Hey, how you doing? Hey. I remember breaking up with someone and then going to give them a kiss and they gave me the cheek and being like, yeah, that's probably what I should. We should probably kiss on the cheek from now on. Oh. Yeah. And now we just wave. The last thing I want to say is that I liked how Judy, A, her delivery and also the writing
Starting point is 01:37:30 when she ends the documentary section, she says, he seems to like who I am. And I just thought that was so sweet. All bullshit aside, it seems like he genuinely likes who I genuinely am. And I just thought that was really pretty. Yeah, man. Randall, you've been a phenomenal guest. Thank you for having me. I feel like we're one step away from getting in your car with
Starting point is 01:37:54 you. So we want to let you go. We should you just promise us you'll come back and do another come back Randall. I feel like you're gonna be a fan favorite. Because I would delight in here. Randall, do you use a Will you come back Randall? I feel like you're going to be a fan favorite. I would delight in that. Randall do you use a washcloth in the shower? Uh, yes. Randall's black dude, I'm trying to tell you this. I'm trying to tell you this.
Starting point is 01:38:15 All black people use washcloths. We have an on- How else do you get clean? Right! Randall, we love you. You can count us into our theme song. Thank you everybody for listening to Fake Doctors, Real Friends. Randall, count us in. Three, two, one.
Starting point is 01:38:28 No, he doesn't listen to podcasts. He doesn't watch the show! He doesn't listen to the podcast. He doesn't listen to the podcast. The motherfucker doesn't listen to the podcast. He doesn't listen to the podcast. He's just been outed. He's just been outed.
Starting point is 01:38:38 He's just been outed, you guys. This fucking guy. He doesn't listen to the podcast. Five, six, seven, eight. He's got stories about a show we made. About a bunch of docs and nurses and a janitor who loved to hate. I said, he's got stories that we all should know. So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our,
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