Fake Doctors, Real Friends with Zach and Donald - Real Friends Classic: 120 - My Way of the Highway With Scott Foley

Episode Date: April 25, 2025

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And the very fancy guest is sitting alone in his closet, and you're, what are you doing, making a drink? No, I was about to get my GTs kombucha, actually. I was asking, I was going to ask for like five minutes so I could get a GTs, well not five minutes, five seconds so I could run into a GT. Did you get a shipment today? I got a big old shipment of GTs kombucha. Me too, I got a shipment. I got a real shipment.

Not like, not that we're interested in advertising in your, on your podcast shipment. I got that, yo, you know, you gotta talk about, you gotta talk about us every time you talk to start this podcast shipment. So I got that big ass Kombucha shipment and I've already gone through two of them bad boys. It's like a day three a day.

You might wanna, yeah, Donald, we were on a call... GT's Kombucha has become a sponsor of the show, and we are on a call with them, and Donald and I genuinely drink it, so it was a no-brainer. And Donald's like, let me ask you something. Since we have the inventor of this on the phone, how many do you recommend I can have a day? And the guy's like, well, I think three is probably the max you want to have a day. And Donald's like, okay, good, good, good.

So you might want to pace, bro. They're going to be gone soon, man. They're going to be gone. Listen, listen. Me, my wife, my kids. Oh, it's a wrap. We have a very, first of all, this episode is fucking hilarious. Very funny episode. I laughed so many times and I was on a text with Donald and Bill right before this about

something and I was like, this episode, 120, is one of the funniest of season one. Yeah, easy. Easy. And we have a very handsome guest. Are you nervous? I put on a nice sweatshirt for him. No, I'm not nervous. He and I have worked a lot together, actually.

We did Felicity together before Scrubs, and then after Scrubs, we did a little movie called Let's Kill Ward's Wife together, and I played Ward, and he directed. And so, you know. Well, I get nervous every time I see Scott Foley because... Really? Yeah. I'm a straight man for the most part, but there are certain men that I get a little shy in front of. And Scott Foley is one of them.

Really? I don't want to play hide the peep with him, but I get a little jittery. Would you play tip to tip? I don't want to touch tips. I just, listen, I am secure enough in my sexuality to be able to say that I get a little, I get a little, a flutter. Oh, okay.

I don't wanna go tip to tip with Scott Foley, but I do think he's very dreamy to look at. And I also really like him as a human being. He's a very sweet man. Okay. Should we invite him in? Yeah, why not? I mean, I'm excited. Dan, bring him in. Dan, allow him in. We put him in a human being. He's a very sweet man. Okay. Should we invite him in? Yeah, why not? I mean, I'm excited. Dan, bring him in. Dan, allow him in. We put him in a green room.

Oh! There he is! Oh my goodness. Look at that handsome man. We were just talking about you. You were? Yeah. Donald was saying that you guys have worked on several projects together, not just- All right, wait. Before we get into this, let's make sure he's recording and stuff. Are you recording, Scuff Foley? I think I'm recording on here, right? The phone? Yes.

Yes. Good, good, good. Many a guest have fucked this up, Scuff Foley, but there's something that tells me that you're gonna do it right. Oh, I'll fuck it up. You look so handsome! Look at him! Look at him!

I was gonna wait. I was gonna wait a beat to tell him he was handsome, Donald. You went right for it. Can I tell you, this is the- But he does! I watched. You went right for it. But it does, it's like... Can I tell you, this is the... I watched the episode not that long ago. I've watched it a couple times since we talked about me being on this. And this is the first time my hair has been the same length as it was during that episode.

And I have the pandemic to thank. Scott, you got an intro. I don't think another man in nine years got the intro that we normally reserve for the beautiful woman walking in with the slow motion and the fan and literally angels going, oh, it was a bit much and I was a little overwhelmed and I think you can tell that in my performance. It was hilarious though. And eating jello. Everybody knows.

Eating jello. Eating jello seductively. That's enough. I mean, I remember them, I remember them coming me saying, like, what do you want to eat? I was like, it's a hospital, right? And they're like, Jell-O it is. By the way, Sarah's character is so Randy for you in this. I had forgotten, you know, we obviously, Scott, we go back, we haven't seen these in 20 years,

and so it's fun for Donald and I because even though we're the stars of the show, we're watching it like anew, being like, oh, that's a funny episode. And I had totally forgotten how in this episode, Sarah is like, really horny, frankly, and riled up. Like she's like, she's, she literally says, if I don't sleep with him, I'm going to kill myself. Right. And then she said she'd suck on his foot or something. And he's like, what? I'd suck on your foot. They went, they went to a lot of lengths with this between the sucking on the foot, talking about needing to sleep with me, begging me to ask her out, dropping stuff and doing bizarre contortions, which by the way works for anybody out there.

All right, it was really funny though, because it's not something you often see on a show. You always see the man being neurotic and frantic, how do I get her? And I'm so attracted to her, I'm so horny. I thought this was funny that Sarah, first of all, Sarah was very funny doing it, but she's so on a mission to get laid. Yeah, it's funny. I had so many thoughts watching this, sorry, you're gonna see my lights go on, nobody can see that because we're on a podcast.

I'm in a closet where it's got one of those automatic lights, you walk in and it turns on, and if I'm sitting here and not moving, then it's gonna go dark. Then it goes dark. That's the kind of fancy house that Scott Foley has everyone. He has a light that turns on with his motion.

Some people have the clapper, some people have light switches. Scott Foley has movement. Listen, one day if you have the level of success of legendary actor Scott Foley, you could get one of these motion lights in your closet. Uh-huh, I think all of your closets have that. No, I was so impressed.

First of all, what a time capsule these things are, right? Like, not just the references, but everything you see. Like the TV you guys are watching in the beginning is an old vacuum tube television. Right, right, right. You know, which you just don't see anymore. the TV you guys are watching in the beginning is an old vacuum tube television. Right, right, right. You know, which you just don't see anymore. Plus you guys are talking about watching Iron Chef, which somehow has stood the test of time.

Because I think it's still on. I think they're still making new episodes. Yeah, you know, I think back then it was like Iron Chef was an import, and now it's domestic. You know what I mean? That's right. I don't know that there's, is there a domestic Iron Chef? Yes, like Bobby

Flay and all of that stuff on it and stuff. Yeah. But it was also it was also so impressive to me to see you know this is the we're getting towards the end of the first season if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. And you guys have your characters dialed in at this point already. I've been on a bunch of television shows where it's not until like end of season 3 where people like oh Oh, I know who this guy is right But you guys are dialed in to a person like to from from Kelso to Cox to you guys to Sarah to like it's amazing and being able to To jump into that you know it was such an interesting character that I got to play here

But but you're right watching Sarah and that character Totally go for it was such an interesting thing because you always see it from the other side, don't you? Yeah, and she's really fucking funny. I mean, we say this, this is our 20th episode of this Scott Foley, believe it or not, it's become a hit and we can't believe it ourselves. But this is our 20th one and we've said it a bunch of times

but Sarah Chalk is so fucking funny. I mean, this episode in particular, she is so fucking funny in this episode. She's so talented, she's so beautiful, she is so good at what she does and she goes for it man and that's what I appreciate it most about the show is that you know there are things that you would read on the page you think like oh how am I gonna do that and everybody to a person goes for it and I think that's what really made this show successful and what makes it stand the test of time even though we're still looking at old TV

sets. It's all good. Well speaking of successful... We have a lot to talk about Donald but I think we should sing first and we know it's got just... I was about to say speaking of successful let's get into that successful theme song. Five, six, seven, eight! Oh, I want Scott Foley to do it. No, I like it. No, Dan, turn off the song. I would like Scott Foley to do it? No, I like it. No, Dan, turn off the song. I would like Scott Foley to count himself. Okay, go ahead.

God, it's God. Here we go. Five, six, seven, eight! We've got some stories About a show we made About a bunch of dogs and nurses And a janitor who loved me I said, here's your stories

That you all should know. So gather round to hear our, gather round to hear our Sprouts Rewatch Show with Zach and Donald. Mm-hmm. That's the first time in podcast history we've stopped the opening theme song. I'm sorry, Donald, I didn't mean to question your right. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

It's just that Scott's a VIP guest and I felt like give him the honor He was really excited to go for it. I'm not I'm not at all hurt in any way No, I know you're we are we are we are partners in this and I don't want you to ever think I would ever question When it's time to sing the song it was your harmony song Your harmony with that song is something that my wife and I have had conversations about. We go for it. We go for the harmony. It's really good.

No, listen, Scott, when we made the song, we were like, okay, but I was like, well, how do we do it now? How do we, you know, we made the song, but how are we both going to sing all the lyrics? And Dylan's like, don't worry, I got this. And he like came up with all those harmonies. I was like, Zach was like, I'll just send you a, uh, I'll send you my verse. I'll sing the whole song and I'll send it to you. And you just sing. Cause originally we were going to do it where we split up the, the, the, the words. Yeah. Right. And he was like, I'll sing the whole

thing and you just pick where you want to sing and we'll have Charlie cut us in. And I heard him sing and I was like, I think he sounds amazing the only way that this is gonna work is if I just back him up with some harm if I sing the whole thing too exactly this is good but you know what's gonna make it better if I do really need if I do really showy harmonies over all of this. Well, it works and we are fans, so good job. Oh, thank you. Of course. Donald, I think we should go back to... I was gonna say that. Let's go... All right, obviously, this is Scott's career. We'd like to go back a little bit. Scott,

the first time I remember hearing about you was on a very, very successful show, solely successful because of Donald's phase-on, but I believe you were on it too. It was called Felicity. That's correct. Donald and I met for the Donald's phase-on, but I believe you were on it too. It was called Felicity. That's correct. Donald and I met for the first time on Felicity, and I remember being like, holy shit, the clueless guy's here. That's what happens every time he walks into a restaurant. Of course.

Of course. But I also, I mean, Donald was great on that. And you were going through this phase where you were trying to be ripped. I remember, I think the first table read you came in, you were carrying like a three gallon Jerry can of water. Yeah, it was crazy the amount of water you would drink every day. And you were shredded and we'd play basketball in the parking lot out there. And actually I remember, I think you'd been on the show off and on for a season

or two, maybe three and I was into it you guys before before scrubs came around right? Yeah. Yeah, and I remember talking to you You had done the pilot and you were telling me about it and you said I don't know man. It's really funny It's from this young writer He did spin city and we got a good group and I saw the pilot and it's really funny I think it's gonna take off and I was like, yeah, good for you. Let's keep playing basketball. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. And nine seasons later. Yeah. We had a lot of conversations just about work back, back then also,

you know, I don't know how new you were to the game, but you had been working. You did, you had done Felicity, you had done Scream 2 or was it 3? Scream 3. I'd done, before Felicity I'd done Dawson's Creek, which was sort of my introduction to the, what back then was the WB, the now defunct WB world. Was Felicity your first big leading part? Felicity was my first big leading part, yeah. Yeah, and you know, it was really the springboardboard that and I'm so grateful for it that that allowed me to be a part of your show and sort of everything that's come since and And when you got are you guys still friendly the three of you the three of you the love triangle We're not not friendly. We don't like you know

I mean, I mean Donald where you're not like having him over and putting his putting his kids in a bouncy castle. No, I'm we're not like that. But but we got together last year for it was the 20th reunion of Felicity. Wow. Which was amazing. And we got so many people together. We went to the ATX, the Austin Television Festival. And I think they screened an episode and we all sat on stage with a bunch of people ask us questions There was a moderator. It was really great. It was the first time we'd all been together in You know 17 18 years Wow Yeah, it was really really fun man, and I

You know I'd always said I Don't think you know they talk about doing reboots night I'd always said I don't think you can do a reboot of Felicity because it was so specific to Not just that time in a person's life when we were all so much younger but to that period of the world of our existence and I sort of changed my mind after being with them because I just missed them all so much and I remembered the feelings that I had both good and bad and I sort of yearned for them so if you know. I think we have an exclusive right here on the fake doctors real friends. Scott Foley is willing to do a Felicity reboot everybody. That'd be interesting.

It wouldn't be a no. Could Donald be in it too? I would only support it if Donald's character lives. My character lives so it's a possibility. All right? I would only support it if Donald's character. Well, my character lives, my character lives, so it's a possibility. All right, good. I only support it if you get to come back, Donald. It would be very interesting to see if everybody is still friendly from the cast in the show, you know what I mean? Yes!

Like, you guys were in college together and you guys all lived together, kind of, sorta, and you guys all dated each other, but it was college and usually, you know, I didn't go to college, but I don't have a lot of friends from my, you know, early, that I still hang out with from my early 20s that I still hang out with. So it'd be really interesting to see what happened after you guys all left NYU. I remember when there was a controversy when Carrie Russell cut her hair.

Like, people lost their minds, right? Yeah. That was the thing. I remember being like, I remember, I didn't watch the show, but I remember being like, are people really up in arms that Carrie Russell cut her hair? Yeah. People were up in arms, and it was, it's to this day,

I think the thing that people talk about the most when they talk about the show, and the interesting thing is that it was scripted. Like she cut her hair on the show, and somehow it gained traction as this urban legend that she did it on her own because she was angry or wanted to change or get away from the character we cut it you actually see it in season two of the show her cutting her hair and I thought she looked more beautiful with the short hair than she did with the long but you know that people just loved it I'm just making up that people loved her hair so much that they were like,

how dare you? It was a lot of hair, dude. It was a lot of hair. I'm assuming, as I recall, she had beautiful curly long hair and people were like, how dare you? Enviable hair. Yeah. It looked like she had been growing it since birth. That's how beautiful the hair was. By the way, Keri Russell was on our show. She was a love interest of mine. Is that right? On Scrubs? Yeah. Yeah. She did a couple episodes just like, well, you did way more episodes. Your character tracked for... Yeah. Well, not...

...till the end pretty much. Don't worry, Scott. You did way more. But... I just didn't know it. Will you do me a favor and look up how many she did? She did two. Yeah. Oh, Donald, you know that. That's cool. So... No, she's talented and great and... And I think we kissed. Yeah. Oh, Donald, you know that. Yeah, I remember. That's cool. So... Now she's talented and great and... And I think we kissed. I think, I mean, on the show, I think we kissed. We might be lip cousins, Scott. I would guarantee that you remember whether you kissed or not. No, I know. Trust me. I remember being very

excited that she was a love interest, but JD didn't make out with all his love interests. Joelle will look it up for me. Did JD kiss, but anyway, Scott, we might be lip cousins. Uh, we're, we're definitely wiener cousins. We're definitely wiener cousins. Uh, Donald and I were touching, talking about touching tips just before you came on. But not in real life, Donald, with Sarah as character. Yeah. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Well, I think, I hope that's the only crossover. I don't think we had any real life crossover Scott Foley. And I hope not because the woman would have clearly preferred you. I don't know about that. Although, you know, I'm sort of the- Scott Foley, how dare you? You know how handsome you are.

Yeah, Scott Foley- Just to get off, Faison. Listen, listen, listen, you know- What's it like to be handsome? Tell Donald. You know, listen, I know that all of your supporters are out there right now. Listen, I know that all of your supporters are out there right now. You know, just you probably bought, you know, quite a few downloads to our podcast. Just you being on this right now. Yeah, that's very kind of you.

All your Scandal Crew. Hey girls, how y'all doing? What's up Scandal Crew? I'll take that. That's very flattering. Listen, the three of us have something else in common, and that is we've all had ABC cancel our shows in season one. Yes. Brutal. 13 episodes. Brutal.

We each got 13. We each got 13. I know, I only got 10. Scott, how many did you get? We got 13, thank goodness. And a trip to Prague. That was it. Right, right, right. So for those of you who don't know, because I guess not enough of you knew, Scott was on a huge budget action series that shot in Prague. He moved his whole family there, which is no small deal because you have two children, right?

I have three children. They were all in school over there. And it was not by no means a simple show. I was going to direct it, but then I had a conflict, but it was a huge budget, epic sort of James Bond, comedic James Bond action show that Bill Lawrence, Six Degrees of Bill Lawrence was the show runner of. And I thought it was amazing. The pilot was unbelievable. I couldn't believe the scale of it. It looked like a giant feature. Oh, thanks, man. And you were so good in it.

But anyway, as I was preparing for today, I went, all three of us were at work, were stars of ABC, and then got a new ABC show that only went half a season. Oh, man. It was just, and it's still heartbreaking. My wife and I had a conversation about it a couple nights ago where she was like, oh, I wish we were still in Prague. We were so fortunate. And that's one of the great things about, ago where she was like, I wish we were still in Prague. We were so fortunate.

That's one of the great things about and one of the reasons I'm so excited to talk to you guys today because Scrubs for me was, it started out as just a gig, right? Coming in, doing something fun, doing something different and it has morphed into the relationships that I've made from it have sustained a lot of what I do and it's made me happy. The people that I've gotten to work with and gone on to work with because of Scrubs have been great. And like you said, Bill Lawrence was the showrunner of Whiskey Cavalier and we were over in Prague together and without Scrubs, that wouldn't have happened.

I think you really showed that you were really funny, Scott. Yeah, I was about to say. I think that with your other shows that you'd known for, whether it be Felicity or Scandal, obviously people know you as a great dramatic actor, but I think on Scrubs, Bill really gave you a chance to be hilarious. One of my favorite moments of Sean's character was in the script, I say this to Scott all the time and Bill all the time, that it literally said in a script, Sean forlornly rides a dolphin. And then when I saw the shot of you forlornly riding a dolphin, I thought, he fucking nailed that. He really...

That's maybe the best screen direction of my career. That's how I would sum up that shot is Sean forlornly rides a dolphin. Oh thanks man. Thanks. Well I will say this though, I knew you were funny from when we did Felicity together when Noel went off the rails and went a little bat shit crazy and you got to explore this character who was kind of by the book and did everything by the book, refined himself. And I remember doing a bunch of episodes where they were looking for you and we finally found

you and you were like, you were completely out there. And I remember not being able to hold it together when we were doing the takes because you were so funny. So I knew you were funny way before you came on Scrubs. Oh, thanks, man. Yeah, I think, Zach, you overstate my talent by saying I'm a great dramatic actor. I think I'm passable.

But Donald, that was a bizarre, like, season three tangent where my character, Noel, decided to change his name to Leon, literally just reverse the letters in his name They they put like a weird wig on me so I had like blonde tips on my hair It was the strangest thing but thank you Donald That was it was a at least a little chance for me to stretch myself in that character now Did JJ Abrams run all the seasons? Every season. Yes, every season.

He was gone a little bit on season four, on our final season, because he had started a show called Alias. And so was sort of doing his time between both sets. But he was there the whole time. I was really fortunate. Obviously no one knew that JJ Abrams would become JJ Abrams back become JJ Abrams back then in the late 90s.

Do you like Donald occasionally put it out there that you're open to being in any Star Wars franchises that he's interested in? Can I tell you? It's been, it's been the, like, if I was ever insecure about anything. Because what's his name, Greg Grumburg? Grumburg? He keeps getting all the love. Where the fuck is happening with Donald and Scott Foley?

Grumburg and J.J. Abrams have been friends since they were three years old. Like they were best friends in elementary school. They made crappy movies together on their Super 8 film cameras when they were kids. They were best men at each other's weddings. Look, I think J.J. knows just by the fact that I'm an actor that I would like to be But I would yeah, of course I would love to and I've you know Every time he signs on to direct a new one. I sent him a text like wow way to go You're not gonna see your family for a while might want some friends around So I'm not sure how to take it that he hasn't cast me in, you know, you always, there's

the old story that you know someone likes working with you if they hire you again and again and again. And I've been fortunate with Bill that that's happened multiple times. JJ, not so much. Not so much, right? We'll see why. We all need Bill to direct a giant tentpole movie. I mean, what's going on, Bill?

Step it up. Do you remember? He was going to do Fletch. He wrote a great script for Fletch and I went and I met with him, I read with him, and there was a whole long Miramax story that goes with it. But he was on his way, man. I thought he would have been great at that. I know. We really need him. I don't think he's interested. He loves TV so much, but I think for all of us, we would like Bill to become a studio tent pole filmmaker, if he doesn't mind.

Are they making movies anymore? They do. There's a couple coming out. Yeah. They're saying July. They're saying like the end of July things are going to pick up. They're saying that Chris Nolan movie is coming out no matter what, Tenet. Oh, really? Right. That's what I've been hearing. And then, I mean, maybe they'll change their mind, but I read something on the interwebs that said they're still saying July, which assumes that people are going to be willing to go to the

theater in July. I don't know. It seems pretty ballsy to release like a $200 million movie. I mean, I don't know if it's that much money, but all these giant movies for that, for in July. But some things are filming already, like they're filming in certain areas. Joelle just said 205 million. And July 17th it's coming up. 205 million dollars.

That's going to be interesting to see how you spend 205 million dollars. I would think, like wouldn't you have to double the amount of theaters because the theaters are only going to be at half capacity just because of social distancing in order to, like there just aren't enough theaters out there to make the money back. 205 is the production budget so they're gonna put like a hundred million into releasing it. That is a that's a lot of money. That is a lot of money. But I ask my but then you ask yourself how much did it cost to make Endgame and all of those things those things look like they cost half a billion dollars. No, but you've got a built-in Marvel audience.

This movie has no mega celebrities in it. I don't know. Yeah, but it've got a built-in Marvel audience this movie has no Mega celebrities in it. I don't know Nolan man. I mean, I know I know Chris Nolan is his own enterprise. Don't get me wrong I get it, but it's got to be the most amount of money Spent on an original script Wow Scott you're not supposed to read the producer. No, sorry $156 million on Endgame. Scott, you're not supposed to read the producer notes, okay? This is the second time it's happened. Five, six, seven, eight!

Sarah did the same thing. Sarah did the same thing. Scott, Donald and I are the hosts of the show. You, as a guest, ignore my producer's notes. Well, no, you know, what I was doing was pretending that I actually knew the budget. Sarah, we had Sarah on, and Jewel was like, you know, Jewel always gives us little things to help the conversation along and Sarah just starts reading them.

Like Sarah, that is not for the guests. The fact that you needed little things to help the conversation along with Sarah, who you worked with for 10 years, is amazing. No, but I said, Sarah, what happens if Jewel's writing like, this is so boring, help her along, you know? Like, don't read those. Okay, so I'm going to put a piece of tape above my... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, is his own entity, and I get that everyone is gonna see this movie because he's a fucking genius. But I wonder if it's the most amount of money

ever spent on a piece of material that isn't an already established piece of intellectual property, like Marvel or James Bond or the like. You know what I'm saying. I don't know, it's a lot of money to have to spend on something and it not work, you know? Yeah, I mean, it's just the amount of money it has to make in order for it to be successful

is just... And especially with what Scott's saying is that the talk is that the theaters are only going to be half full so you can have the most distance from each other. So then you need double the amount of screenings. You know, I don't know real that's going to work. What would be really interesting is, OK, so Trolls World Tour was supposed to come out in theaters and it didn't make it to theaters because of the whole covid thing, right?

And so they released it on digital, the digital platform, but you had to rent it. You couldn't buy it. You could only rent it. And your rental lasts for about, you know, 24 hours. I wonder how much money Trolls World Tour made because the model is there to put movies out well at least right now if you if you really want to watch and they haven't really experimented with like big blockbuster movies but if you really want to watch a movie it's fine to watch it at home. I understand they

need movie theater money because popcorn, all of that shit, theaters and everything, but I wonder what Trolls World Tour did for Joelle. Can we find that out? I wonder if it's even published. So 77 million Trolls World Tour did. That's a lot. I don't know. Yeah. Well that would be, that would be you saying, is that the first weekend't know. Yeah. Well, that would be, that would be, you're saying, is that the first weekend or is that total? No, that would be first weekend. Sorry, that would be total. So when you rent it, because I haven't done this yet, when you rent with this new model, where you rent the movie for 24 hours, what did Trolls cost you? 20 bucks. 20 bucks. 1999, something like that. I love the two dads know they're like 20 bucks. Yeah. Oh yeah. Please.

I looked at my wife, I was like, we're spending 20 bucks on this. Yeah. All right We know because several times to yes So think how many rented it how much think how much money you've gotten off the fazons because you guys are renting it multiple times But it would cost more if we went to the movie theater though, because it would be yes 20 bucks each person, you know, I mean and so, that's right. Plus popcorn and all of that stuff. I don't know if they get money for the popcorn, but I'm just saying. I wonder if that's a new model.

77 million is a lot of money to make online, dude. That's a new model, they've been talking about it. I think it's an interesting way to go to. Right, that's probably what people are gonna start doing. I mean, if, because I don't, you know, Spike Lee said the other day, he's not going to the theater until there's a vaccine, and I was kinda like, yeah, I think I might agree with that.

Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, my wife's not leaving the house till there's a fucking vaccine. You know, it's crazy. And that's your choice, right? It's, yeah, sure. I have a lot to do with that. Donald, is your wife more hardcore than you about this? Because Donald's definitely more hardcore than you about this because Donald's definitely more hardcore than his wife. No, my wife is anxiety ridden about everything. She is terrified, not just that we're going to get it, but that we're all going to die from it when we get it. You know, mind you, none of us have pre-existing conditions. She has made 500 masks and donated them and given them to friends. She is

all over this and I still can't leave the house. Yeah. It's crazy. It's crazy. My wife doesn't like me right now because I'm like, well, maybe it started off like this. Maybe, maybe in May, honey. Maybe in, no, maybe in May. Okay, we'll see about May.

And then May's come around and I'm like, okay, maybe June. And she's like, June is here, motherfucker. And I'm like, okay, maybe June. And she's like, June is here, motherfucker. And I'm like, listen, July, when July comes around, I promise you, baby, we're gonna scope out the situation. And if it's all good, then we can go outside. Well, Donald and I got invited to go on, there's this really popular YouTube show called Good Mythical Morning.

And it's a hugely successful show. They do it in a normal time. They do it every morning. And we got an invite to do it at the end of July. And I was like, I think... And you have to go in person, they're not doing it on Zoom. And I was like, I think... We were just talking about this before the show, like, end of July, we could probably do that, right? And we don't know I mean we're both having the conversation But in our heads is like are we gonna be going to do a talk show end of July Is that seem like are we gonna wear masks like I don't understand how it's gonna work. How does that work? How's that right? There's a lot of talking face to face too. I mean, I you know, everybody's got an opinion mine is I think it's gonna be okay

You know at a certain point don't you doesn't life have to go on? I think it's gonna be okay. You know, at a certain point, don't you, doesn't life have to go on? I mean, it does. Yeah, I know, but choosing, yeah, life will go on, but choosing to go into, like making choices that are like, I'm gonna go sit in a movie theater with a bunch of people that might be coughing, or I'm gonna go into a tight elevator or a restaurant. I mean, those choices, I don't know,

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and the real lessons that have shaped them. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I was back. That one that I hold off to see who's gonna do it. We're like this. We're like, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, we're back. It's a shame you guys don't enjoy this. Because of the delay, nothing we ever do is in sync. So we sometimes ask Dan in post to make it seem like we know how to sing at the same time.

Thanks to Dan. Can you guys give me a minute to run and grab my notes? Yeah, but don't take a deuce, dude. We got Scott Foley here. Scott Foley? I would never deuce on your time. Okay, thank you. His minute is the equivalent of him

learning his lines on Scrubs. This is what happened. Oh, I'm glad you know. We've talked a lot about this. Will you please say that when he comes back? Or not learning his lines, I should say. No, he claims he's turned over a new leaf. But I think that's just because he's worried that potential

directors and showrunners might be listening to the podcast and won't hire him. So he has this whole thing where he says that he's he's turned over a new leaf and now he learns his lines. Well, how it's a pandemic. That's his new leaf. There's nothing to learn. I know. He also said he quit weed, but I think that I will ask him if that's lasted.

Why is your wife's Instagram handle the Mean Chick? She seems like such a nice person. Does she? Well, I don't know her that well, but every time I've hung out with her, she seems delightful. She is delightful. She's Polish and her last name is domain chick or domain chick Which sounds like the mean chick so every time someone has a hard time pronouncing her name

She just says it sounds like the mean chick so that's oh, I thought there I thought it was like a thing like look you might think I'm nice, but I'm a bitch I'm the no no no she's she's an asshole, but God. I love her And she had a good part on your show too didn't she? Bitch, I'm the mean chick. No, no, no, she's an asshole, but God, I love her. And she had a good part on your show too, didn't she? Yeah, man, that was- I forgot, did she have a recurring or something? She had a recurring role, and that was sort of one of the caveats I had when I was talking about shooting the show

in Prague, I was like, you guys want me to move over to Prague for a year, and I got a wife who's a working actress, I got three kids that I'm gonna put in Prague, I was like, you guys want me to move over to Prague for a year, and I got a wife who's a working actress, I got three kids that I'm going to put in school, I can't ask her to stop, and Bill was like, she can be on the show! Yeah, Bill's a good salesman, he's like, I just discovered who our new recurring role is! Yeah, but it was a smart move on his part, and ours actually. Shooting over in Prague was obviously much better for the budget, the tax breaks, and the cost

of doing business over there is substantially lower. And just the production value. There's a shot in the pilot. By the way, if you haven't seen the show, go see it. Even if you just watch the pilot, because you'll be impressed by the scope of the damn thing. I just couldn't, I thought it with a pilot was really well done and I was gonna go direct

when I was sort of intimidated. I was like, how many days do you get to shoot these episodes, because it was just epic. We were so excited to have you over there, man. We were so bummed when it fell through and I know you got a big gig. I got a part in a good role in a movie with Christopher Walken and my actor crush heart couldn't say no to that,

as much as I wanted to come to Prague and boss Scott Foley around. Well, we miss having you. Well, we'll have to do it again. Maybe you would've saved the show. I know, that episode would've been the thing. No, but I can't wait to work with you again, because I think you're fantastic.

Donald, Scott wanted to- You're so amazing in this episode, man. Yeah, let's get into the episode. Thanks, buddy. Let's get into the episode. Thanks, buddy. Let's get into the episode. Yeah. It's a very good episode. You know, Adam Bernstein directed it, who directed our pilot, we've told you, and he's

a very, very funny, talented guy. Eric Weinberg. Eric Weinberg. Very funny writer. Eric Weinberg. I played tennis with him after this episode. You're a good tennis player. Isn't that a bit of trivia about you?

That is a bit of trivia about me. I can hold my own. I'm not about me. I can hold my own. I'm not great, but I can hold my own. Did you play college? That's what people who are really good say to be modest. You're really good, I think. Can you beat Bill? No.

Yeah, Bill's really good. Bill's really good. Although these days, I don't know. He's gotten older. Bill and I, we don't play together because it's just not fun for either one of us, but we often hit, we vacation together and we would like each hit with a pro on separate courts because I just can just get by, but I love it. And Bill's is like, you know, played college is really good. But he would play these young pros and try his ass off to, but he would keep up with them. I mean, you know, it was, he was impressive.

Yeah, no, he's, he's good. He and I have gone out to hit a few times and we have a tennis pro guy named Christian Kapilic, who was a pro for a while and sort of hits with a bunch of people around town and we both play with him. But Bill's very talented, as by the way, getting back to the episode, was Mr. Weinberg. He's a very good tennis player. I gotta say that what I want to start to say is that you know we're watching these episodes Scott and they're all some of them are great and some of them are just okay as happens when you make 182 episodes of something. Sure. I have to say this one is particularly really fucking funny. I laughed out loud quite a few times. Me too. I laughed out loud a bunch. Not only do we have Scott's and Sarah's arc, which is hilarious, but the janitor fucking

with me and telling all my patients to get surgery is so funny. And Donald, we have a musical- And he talks to everybody, by the way. I know. He talks to everybody. I was gonna bring that up. In this episode, he talks to everybody. Everybody, yeah.

I know. Bill, as you know, Bill has held onto this lore that in season one, the janitor only spoke to JD, and he was debating whether, as we went forward, if the janitor would just be a figure of JD's imagination. I think this is where it went off the window. Yeah. I think episode 120, he must've been like, fuck it, because the janitor talks to everybody. The janitor's real. He's giving advice. He's giving medical advice to people. Yeah.

That was really funny. Let's get into it. I'm your biatch. Very funny. Yeah, this is the beginning. Well, not the beginning of Scrubs being a musical because we had Judy and Sam sing together. But this is the beginning of big musical productions,

though, in Scrubs. We're all dancing in the hallway Yeah, singing on a on a made-up Fire escape. Yeah This was our homage to West Side Story and we clearly didn't have the rights because we're very clearly tiptoeing around it being a West Side Story spoof, but it is a West Side Story spoof. I loved it. I loved the musical theater references I thought you know, I was I was sitting there watching this trying to think of the sort of the theme and you know They talked about competition, but but whether it's whether it's you

JD and Turk or Cox and Kelso like it's it's not necessarily competition But there's a power struggle happening here with all these characters Which was really interesting to watch and I thought the you know we're not obviously not there yet But I thought the resolution especially when it came're obviously not there yet, but I thought the resolution, especially when it came to you guys' storyline, was a great one. Yeah, it is about, it's about, I guess that's the theme in the two main story, I mean, not the two main,

because you and Sarah are one, but the Cox, Kelso one, and the Me, Donald one is competing with your peers. And you're right, it is the first time we get into all these games that Donald and I would play over the years. These stupid little challenges, you know. What was the one with hide the- Hide the saltine. Hide the saltine and all the many things.

But this was the first one that- Toe or finger? Yeah. Yeah. And they're all very, they're all named in a very Bill Lawrence way, you know? Like steak is just called steak. Steak, let's play steak.

But even what Cox calls the nerd, coffee nurse. Like it's so simple the way Bill names things and it's hilarious. By the way, a little bit of trivia, coffee nurse, I don't know if you know this, is Matt Tarsus' beautiful wife, Katie Tarsus. Matt Tarsus. I did not know that. Matt, you know Matt Tarsus, Scott Foley? Tarsus. Matt Tarsus. I did not know that.

You know Matt Tarsus, Scott Foley? Yeah, I know Matt, but I didn't know that was his wife. Matt Tarsus was one of our great writers on Scrubs, and he created, along with me, our ABC show that didn't work, Alex Inc. And he's a great human being and has a beautiful wife, and I stopped and I was like, that's Katie Tarsus playing Coffee Nurse.

She was great. And I texted him. Good job. And I said, your wife is so beautiful in this episode and he said, yes and I said, I'm not gonna tell you what he said. Okay, bye. Nevermind.

That's enough. That is enough. What do you got, Don? You got anything else you wanna talk about? Mr. Hoffner. This dude is fucking hilarious. What's the name want to talk about? Mr. Hoffner. This dude is fucking hilarious. What's the name of the gentleman who played Mr. Hoffner? Fred Stoller is his name.

Ugh, so good. This guy, I gotta tell you, if you are a director or a filmmaker or a showrunner, you need to hire this guy, because every sentence he said, I laughed out loud at. Out loud? I remember laughing when we were making the show at him doing the lines in the thing. Chicken, that shit had me going for days. He takes the funniest stutter, and I tried to write it down, because the word, what he's trying to say is, no, you said chicken.

But when it comes out, he goes, no, chicken. Chicken. And like, I don't know, you can't write that in a script. That's just an actor coming up with something funny. It was hilarious. He's been around for years. He's that character actor guy who just pops up and he slays every time you see him. Every time.

I know. He's got such a dry sense of humor that it is innately watchable. There is this type of really funny actor, they're often called character actors, like Fred, that can, and Bill would hire lots of them on the show over the years and he jokingly would call him his assassins and Bob plundering is another one and they would just come on and they would have like a few lines but everything they said was was was funny and And I just want to say to Fred and anyone who knows Fred every single thing you said on this episode made us laugh

Yeah, he came back to later on, not, you know, seasons later actually. I thought he would be somebody who would come back into the hospital over and over again. I think, yeah, when this episode was done, I remember telling Bill, like, you gotta have that guy back. You gotta have him come, yeah. He should be a regular. He's hilarious. He was really funny. Yeah, I agree. On the treadmill. Yeah. He's hilarious. He's really funny. Yeah, I agree. Um, on the, uh, treadmill.

Yeah. Oh God. One, you look great. You got that young, you got that young body where the shoulders haven't really caught up yet. You know what I mean? Where they're like huge, your shoulders are like so high and everything. You know what I'm talking about when you're like a baby and then all of a sudden you start growing lats and shit. Anyway, when making that, The Fall, was that you or was that them asking you to do it? The Fall was me. I was terrified about this. This was the scene in the script that had me the most nervous and for ridiculous reasons.

There is something about watching people run on screen that you can look the gate, your gate, you can look like an idiot or you can look okay. You know, like if you see people run on screen you're like that's a weird run. That's it. And it's quick and easy to judge so I was very nervous about that. But I also felt that the, here far be it for me to be a writer, but I felt that the scene needed like a button at the end. It didn't come together quite right. And I remember the first time I thought about doing it and in the scene I just, halfway

through the first take I decided to do it. And everyone flipped out. Like we didn't even, like they're like, are you okay? Oh my God, what happened guys? Can we get a medic in here? I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. It was a bit. It was a bit guy

That's pretty courageous of you to do a a unscheduled almost proud fall on a treadmill running that's advanced Scott Thank you, my friend. Well, I pride myself on physical comedy, although I never get to do it My wife is such a bit home and what my wife is sick of it But it was it was unfortunately they liked it after they calmed down, and I had to do it seven more times. Right. Well, good thing you survived. I liked it because you were such a good yin-yang for Sarah because you're both sort of goofy

and nervous and neurotic, and it was just so... She's doing all this ridiculous stuff stuff and you're seemingly holding it together and then she looks away and you trip on the treadmill. I thought that was really funny. Thanks, man. It was, you know, finding, it's always a hard thing when you first come onto a show, even though you guys were in your first season,

this is the 20th episode, so to try to establish a character amongst all these other characters is a really hard thing to do, and Sarah and I talked about it a bit. I think what we came up with for Sean and worked ultimately. He got a little more confident as the show went on and his episodes got there. But it was fun playing this sort of nervous, neurotic, somewhat insecure kid.

It was really interesting. Yeah. Yeah, your character arc throughout the show is really, it's very interesting because you do start off, you and Sarah are pretty much the same character. You're just a male version of her. And then all of a sudden you develop this confidence, right? And then you lose this confidence all of a sudden when she breaks up with you out of nowhere, when you grow the beard and. Yeah. And he forlornly rides a dolphin. They had me doing some strange things,

which I hope we get to talk about in future episodes. Look, here I am inviting myself over. No, Scott, I think a fat suit. Absolutely. Scott, you are so good for our ratings that we are gonna have you back over and over. I hope you'll come back on episodes you have nothing to do with. I would love to, just to make fun of people.

No, we're already inviting you back because we have to talk about SeaWorld. Oh yeah. I would like to say that I no longer support SeaWorld, but at the time we were happy to go to SeaWorld. I remember being so pissed off because I couldn't go none of my scenes were at Sea World That's right. Let me get this straight Y'all are all going to San Diego to hang out for a night in San Diego and ride dolphins And I got to stay back at the motherfucking hospital

It was so fun. I was so pissed off. It was so fun But this was all before we all saw the documentary blackfish and yes, and now we don't we don't go there anymore Now we we we encourage people to not go there anymore. But before we were all educated. Before we knew. Before we were all educated. Before we were animal woke. And Scott, you did get to forlornly ride a dolphin,

which is one of the coolest things anyone could ever do in their career. The things that I got to do on this show were still some of the highlights of my career. The things that I got to do on this show were still some of the highlights of my career. I mean, between riding on the dolphin, doing this Betty the Seal bit, I don't know if you remember this, but I had like a phone call with Sarah

and I turned my head and the seal turns its head towards me and I look away like it sticks its tongue out at me. I got to be like damn close to a killer whale and a beluga whale and it was a really amazing experience and I'll never forget it. Think how sad that whale was, Scott, while you were acting with it. I had no idea.

It didn't let on. Oh my God. We're gonna get mail for that one. We're gonna get mail for that one. Scott's like, I had no idea. I did not know. It didn't say a damn thing. I would have had his back. Listen, we're trying to buy it back with some karma now by saying, don't support it any longer. So there you go. There you go.

Oh, boy. All right, let's talk about... Let's talk about when he goes... I love when he goes, what are you 8-11 with Hoffner? he goes, what are you serving for dinner tonight? And I go, that's not really my area. He goes, I'd like chicken. That guy was great. I'd like just chicken. Chicken. Chicken.

So let's go. Yeah, go ahead. I don't know where in the show that is, but I wanna talk for a second about you two singing on the fire escape. Yeah. Yeah. Which was, A, I loved it, and I loved the musical theater references, and those are something that find a home

throughout the life of this television show. Yeah. But the smile that you had on your face, Zach, that you were unable to hide, made me rewind it two or three times to be like, is he just smiling because he's singing or... Scott, I had a Phantom of the Opera beach towel hung on my wall as a child. I'm very aware. This was me living my best life. It was your Seinfeld moment.

Your Seinfeld moment, unable to hide your smile. Someone was paying me well to hold Donald and sing musical theater to him. I was like, how could life get better than this? It was fantastic. And I appreciated you not being able to contain your laughter. Getting a lead in a TV show was enough. Now you're letting me sing a love song to Donald on a fire escape?

Come on. Oh, it was great. And by the way, the way you guys did the dancing in the hallway, everybody looked professional like Sarah was going for. Well, obviously everyone that wasn't a lead was a dancer. And we rehearsed a lot. I'm going to say this, this is the best I've ever seen Sarah dance also too. Me too!

Sarah can dance. Sarah, she can't sing but she can dance. Dude, she was on fire in this shit dude. Like I've seen Sarah dance and Sarah dances like, you know, Sarah, I'm not gonna disrespect nobody. Sarah dances like she dances. Well she knows her, she has her little thing she does which which is adorable, but she, she was doing like full on, you know, Broadway choreography. Yeah, dude. But so was Rob Maschio. So was Rob Maschio.

Yes, he was. But Rob Maschio, Rob Maschio did, you know, I wonder if Rob Maschio ever did musical theater. I bet he did, I bet he did. We should have a section where we go to Rob. This is a Bill Lawrence question. No, we should go to Rob, section where we go to Rob. This is a Bill Lawrence question. No, we should go to Rob. And now we go to Rob.

Now. He's like a correspondent. Rob? Yeah, going to Rob live. Rob is a very successful realtor now at the beach, Scott. I don't know if you know that, sir. When you're ready to buy your beach house, you better use Rob Maschio.

I'm not gonna be ready to buy my beach house for a while. Well, one day. But I'll use them when I do. Yes, I encourage anyone. We always like to give Rob shout outs. You can get Rob on Cameo and you can pay him a nominal fee to send you a video where he high fives your friends. So go on Cameo and hire Rob Mastio. And of course, if you're looking for real estate on the west side of Los Angeles, we encourage you to hire him. I'd like to go on Cameo and have him and pay him whatever it costs just to watch him run line. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Oh shit! Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hope Rob will give it to me for free, but if not, I'm willing to pay. No, no, no.

Cameo makes you pay. Cameo makes you pay. Okay. I'm going to... Donald, don't you think we should hire Rob to send Scott Foley a high five cameo? I think that would be the best thing ever, and you have to share it too. You know, you can get really... My brother loves baseball more than anything, and they have like old school...

They have sports players... Is that what you call them? Sports players? Sports players? Sports people? Sure, athletes, yeah. They have athletes, athletes, sports players. Sports players. They have famous sports players.

And some. Ballin' bad guys. But some of them are like, I don't know if you like Lenny Dykstra, I don't know if you've heard Lenny Dykstra on Howard Stern lately, but he's gotten a know, he's gotten a little wacky. And I was thinking about getting Lenny Dijkstra for my brother to like send him a message. Are you guys on that YouTube cameo?

I'm not on there, but I occasionally scroll it because there's some people that I think would be very funny to hire for other people. Yeah. And, and so I've, I've thought about it, but like, like I saw Olivia Wilde, I follow on Instagram and I'm friends with her and she loved that documentary, Cheer, I don't know if you saw Cheer. Yes, I loved it. But one of her friends hired all the kids, all the kids from Cheer on there,

hired every single one of them to send her birthday messages. And so for her feed on her birthday was all the kids from Cheer sending her birthday messages. I thought that was so cool. That's so cool, that's a great idea. So there you go. It's a great gift idea. There you go. I'm giving cameo a shout out although Donald and I are not on there. Have you guys ever met anyone that's as competitive as these guys are on the show? That just you know you are

competent. You think I'm that competitive? No not in life but sports wise you are. When it comes to when competitive? No, not in life, but sports-wise you are. When you were playing basketball back in the day. When it comes to playing sports against anyone, absolutely, regardless of what it is, I wanna win. You're absolutely right. By the way, I don't know if you heard Bill- But do you know anybody in life that's like that,

other than Bill Lawrence? I was gonna say Bill Lawrence, but other than Bill Lawrence- Bill's the most competitive person I know in real life. Where it's like you can't walk, don't walk faster than him, or he's going to think it's a race. Yeah.

This is probably why it's in the script. We have a funny Bill Lawrence walking story. We were in, we took a trip from Prague when we were shooting Whiskey Cavalier over to Amsterdam. And if you guys have never been there, it's a huge bicycle culture, right? Everyone rides bikes around. So we're walking down the sidewalks and wherever you wherever you are you're inundated with these bicycle bells ringing constantly telling you to get out of the way and you don't know

where they're coming from and you're looking behind you and you're always stepping off trying to get out of the way and we were walking down and there was nobody around us it had to be two in the morning we just seen a Raiden concert in Amsterdam. God, Josh Raiden gets a shout out every show. Every episode, every episode. Even the guests give Raiden shout outs. What the fuck?

My wife was, he, you know, Bill was like, we're going to go fly to Amsterdam and go see him. And he does this song. And my wife was like, oh my god, he has to sing Only You. So of course, in the middle of his thing, he's like, and for Marika, I got to sing Only You. And she's like tearing up. I'm like, I think he's You, and she's like tearing up.

I'm like, I think he's making fun of you, baby. He doesn't want to sing the song. But we're walking back to the hotel and there's, you know, it's dead. It's two in the morning and there are all these bikes parked along. Nobody's riding bikes, but they're all sort of chained up along the sidewalk and we're walking Bill's a couple steps ahead of me and I ring one of these locked up bikes bells. He damn near went to his knees. He was so afraid. He had such a PTSD. I've never seen Bill like, Oh God, stuff like he, I don't think we'll ever go back to Amsterdam because of it. Um, all right. We went to Amsterdam

together. Yeah. Donald and I went to Amsterdam together. Oh, that was dangerous. Yeah. Careful. I don't know if we can tell any of those stories. I don't think we can. I know they want to hear it. We had fun. We had some good times in Amsterdam. Did you guys have a good time in Amsterdam? It was the best. The best. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't. Yeah, it wasn't like that kind of good time because we were sort of, I was with work people. I don't know. But it was that kind of good time. Yeah. We tried God's lettuce and it was delicious. Oh Jesus. You didn't have one of those. What are those? This is before God's lettuce.

This is before God's lettuce was legal in California. Really? Yeah. They really like it over there, you know. Now we had a, was it moon pie or there's something like that over there that you eat and it just wrecks you Oh, I wish I mean I know I wish I would have known no no guys. This is a real show now We're not just two guys doing this out of their closets. We have to go to advertisers. We'll be right We'll be right back The big guests continue I'm lost culture East us this week, it's the very funny Amy Poehler. Don't overthink it. They talk water.

We did not drink water growing up. Water was not a thing. Parenting. You got teen boys. This is like the black diamond of parenting. And of course. I don't think so, honey. Horror movies. Okay.

Amy Poehler is on Las Cultu- The latest episode is out now. Listen to Las Cultureistas on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. In 1978, Roger Caron's first book was published and he was unlike any first time author Canada had ever seen. Roger Caron was 16 when first convicted.

Has spent 24 of those years in jail. 12 years in solitary. He went from an ex-con to a literary darling almost overnight. He was instantly a celebrity. He was an adrenaline junkie and he was the star of the show. Go Boy is the gritty true story of how one man fought his way out of some of the darkest places imaginable. I had a knife go in my stomach, puncture my skin, break my ribs.

I had my feps all in my hands. Only to find himself back where he started. Rodger's saying this, I've never hurt anybody but myself. And I said, oh, you're so wrong. You're so wrong on that one, Rodger. From Campside Media and iHeart Podcasts, listen to GoBoy on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We asked parents who adopted teens to share their journey.

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feel good you're there? Are you responsive to people? Do people know you have a heart? Develop the team, develop the people, create a system of trust, and it works over time. I'm Dan Roth, LinkedIn's editor-in-chief. On my podcast, This Is Working, leaders like Jamie Dimon, Mark Cuban, and Richard Branson share strategies for success and the real lessons that have shaped them. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We're back. I'm looking at both Scott Foley and Donald Faison in their closets. Scott has to continually wave his arm to make his lights go on.

I wish we were recording the video of this because it would be delightful. We'll start putting them out. We'll start putting them out. One day we're going to put them out on YouTube. All right. Bring them in, Joel and Dan, adjust the mic for Donald's Oprah introduction because you know it can get loud. Donald, please adjust your mic for the Oprah introduction. Okay, I'll back up a little bit. It's okay to worry about it. No, he's ready. He's a professional, Donald. Here comes Jenny. Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Jenny Poulston!

I think it's Poulston. Is it Poulston, Jenny? Yes, that's correct. That's what I said! Poulston! Hi, Jenny. Welcome to Fake Doctors Real Friends. You picked a very good day to be on because we have a very funny and handsome guest named Scott Foley. You might know him from the show Scandal, Felicity, Whiskey Foxtrot, Scrubb. Whiskey Cavalier.

Whiskey Cavalier. Hi Jenny. Sorry Scott. Oh, hi Scott. Brutal. Nice to see you. Scott, Scott, do not flirt with Jenny. Sorry Scott. Oh, hi Scott. Brutal. Nice to see you. Scott, Scott, do not flirt with Jenny, okay? This is our guest. Come on, she's there.

I got all the flags behind her. She looks fantastic. Jenny, where are you calling in from? So I live in Canberra, Australia. Canberra is the capital city of my fine country. On the West Coast, yes it is. Scott's showing off that he knows it's on the West Coast. I lived in Australia, Jenny.

I know what I'm talking about. I know what I'm talking about. I know what I'm talking about. I know what I'm talking about. I know what I'm talking about. I know what I'm talking about. I know what I'm talking about. I know what I'm talking about. I know what I'm talking about. I know what I'm talking about. I know what I'm talking about. I know what I'm talking about. of my fine country. On the West Coast, yes it is. Scott's showing off that he knows it's on the West Coast.

I lived in Australia, Jenny. I know what I'm talking about. Wait, when did you live in Australia? As a kid, I lived in Sydney for four years, in Snives, Sydney. Wow. Wow. Is it near Perth? No.

Okay, Jesus. But it's near Melbourne. No, well Sydney's near Melbourne, closer. But no, it's on the west coast of Australia. This is so embarrassing. But I want everyone to know that the American public school system spends very little time on geography. I think it was like two weeks in seventh grade.

Or Australia. Yes. Jenny, thank you for coming on the show. Do you have a question for any of us? You can ask us anything. Ask us anything. Yeah, I just wanted to say I started watching your show when I was in my early 20s, like you guys were. And it really resonated with me then. I just started my career. I had a mentor, you know, learning to do things on your own without a safety net.

And then I watched the series again a few years later when I had my children and they were babies and I was up in the night. I put it on and certain episodes resonated in a different way because I was a parent and recently I actually did every school holidays and there's something new that pops up that's, based on an experience that I've just had, it just makes me think of something different. So I just wanted to know, with your experience of the last 20 years, what advice would you give to your younger selves now?

Oh man. You mean, us as real people or our characters? Yeah, no, you as real people. Oh, real people, that's a really good question. While making the show, I wish I could have been more present. You know what I mean? I hate to jump in front of you, Scott,

but I gotta get to this right away. Yeah, dive in. Yeah, dive in. I was so not there, let's say, when we were making that. I was very much worried about being out and about. I was more interested in what came after work than what came with work back when we were making scrubs. And I wish I could have been more present

at when it came to doing my job back then. That's the one thing that I look back and say, you know what, I know I had fun and I know I enjoyed myself. I wish I could have experienced all of that while making it. Yeah, my reaction is similar in a sense that, I think we took it for granted that this would happen all the time.

That is to say that, we've spoken to this on other podcasts before that these really special friendships would be on every job we did. And I think we've discussed before, how we've all gone on and done these other jobs and some are successful, some are not, but still to this day, the bond that we all have

that comes across on the screen, I think it's the reason people really, one of the reasons, of course, the writing first and foremost, but another reason was that the love that you see between these characters was real. It was, we were watching people who genuinely cared as much about each other in real life

as they did, as the characters did on screen. So I think that, I think I took that for granted. I was a young actor, this was my first big job, and I thought, oh, this is what it's always like to be on a set. Everyone loves each other, everyone wants to hang out on weekends even after we've worked all these days. And oh my God, the scripts are always hilarious.

And it took so many years to be like, oh no, this is a diamond in the rough. Not only the writing staff that Bill assembled was just the dream team. I mean, they've all gone off to be hugely successful on their own, right? But also just the bond that the seven main characters of us had was something I haven't really ever seen again, whether I'm an actor or a director, it was just so rare. So that's what I think too. it's a similar answer to Donald. What about you, Foley?

Now Scott's been on three, in my opinion, three very successful shows. I'm interested to hear how... He might not have an answer related to ours, those guys. Not to ours, but yeah, but I'm interested in hearing if it was like that for each one of those successes, you know what I mean? Like Felicity? You know, I think just directly answering your question, I think for me looking back,

if I had to do it again, I would try to relax. I think I was holding on really tight. It was very important to me. I didn't go to college. I didn't want to do anything else. This was my only shot really. Like if I wasn't going to be a working actor, I'd be digging holes.

I don't know what else I'd do. So I was really uptight and nervous about making sure I got it right and really focused on work. And I think if I had to do it again, I'd take a breather and be more like Donald. But not that far, not that far. Don't go that far. take a breather and Be more like Donald But you know what I mean like we were I was young and wanted to be successful and was working towards a goal but You know at a certain point you got to sort of stop and and smell the flowers, too Did you guys all get along on scandal we did?

Oh, you know I was hoping that I was hoping to get some clickbait going here Scott. No, man I've been I was looking for ever since I'd done scrubs I was looking for a show that had a similar vibe a similar friendship Not just in front of the camera But behind it and I found it on scandal and we still keep in touch I get texts where I have a group chain group text Chain, I get something multiple things daily We vacation together. Could I join that group text chain, I get something, multiple things daily. We vacation together. Could I join that group text?

Scott? If you have something to offer, I'd love to. I do. You know, I have a long history with Tony Goldman. I know you do, yes. And I love that man a lot. And he directed a movie I was in called The Last Kiss, and we've stayed friendly over the years,

and I just think he's a very, very special human being. I wish he was the real president. I wish he was the real president. I think we all wish someone else was the real president right now, don't we? Sorry, Jenny, that's not what you asked. That's what we're getting. You don't have to bring an Australian into our political situation. They're in it.

Jenny, do you have another question for any of us? Yes, I do. Because I want to look out for my fellow Australians, I just want to ask why do you think Dr. Cox hates Hugh Jackman so much? You know, this is a question that's been asked so often and we never answered it. I think we're gonna throw it to Bill, but my theory is that Cox, who was such an alpha competitive guy, was jealous because at the time Hugh Jackman, when we were making the show,

it was right at the time with Hugh Jackman exploding and becoming a megastar, who was not just your average megastar, he was doing everything. He could sing. He did everything. He could sing, he could dance, he could host award shows,

he could be an action star, he could be a dramatic star. He was everywhere and he was doing everything and everyone liked him. It wasn't like, you know, a lot of stars become polarizing. He wasn't, everybody loved him. You know, this dude could host the Tonys and then stab somebody up as Wolverine, man. It was like just 180 after 180. So I think, Jenny, that's my guess is that Cox was, the character of Cox was jealous of this handsome, you know, muscular man who could do anything and everything and people

just loved him and adored him. And so he was jealous of him. But let's ask Bill, because that's a good ask Bill. Bill, the fans have been asking for many years. And now a very nice woman from Australia has asked, and we just have to get the answer, why does Dr. Cox hate Hugh Jackman so much? Look, we love Hugh Jackman.

When we were trying to come up with who Dr. Cox hated for no reason, I think we thought it was important that we came up with somebody that everybody loved and that could do everything. I mean, who has anything against Hugh Jackman? He's Wolverine, you know, he's in action movies. He's apparently a lovely guy. He's handsome.

He's like People Magazine's sexiest person. He can sing, he can dance, you know, five, six, seven, eight. So that went in. He starred in the Music Man on Broadway and that Peter Allen thing. He's just too damn talented. Hope my buddy Scott Foley is there. Scott, torture them.

Jenny, I hope that worked for you. Yes. Five, six, seven, eight. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. You know what? Most people only Bill usually gets the song when he says it, but because Scott Foley's so darn charming, Dan hit the button again. Sick of it. Thanks, Dan.

He couldn't control himself. I'm sick of it. Sick of it. Let me control my own tiny little universe, please. Jenny. Yes. I'm going to give you one more question if you want to ask it. Oh, wow, Jenny, you're getting the rare third question.

Yeah, yeah, my other question was, what's your proudest moment from being on the show? Your proudest performance. Oh, wow. I really enjoyed doing the musical theater, the musical episode. I had a lot of fun doing that. Growing up, I did a lot of musical theater, but not at that scope or that level. And a lot of the people that, you know,

were in Scrubs the musical, I saw later on in La La Land or whatever, and that made me feel really good. Like, you know, I danced with some of the, some of LA's best dancers and stuff like that, and got to perform with some of LA's best. And as you know, everybody comes here to make it in the industry.

And it felt good to be amongst Hollywood's elite dancers and being able to dance with them. I really enjoyed that. I'm very proud that I was able to do that. Yeah, I think I'm proud of that episode too. And also I'm really proud of, it was really underappreciated I think, but we did this sort of Princess Bride homage episode that was fantasy and sort of a medieval thing.

And it kind of, it was, I believe it was during the Ryre Strike season and the season ended early and we didn't know if the show was coming back. And it was sort of presented as the season ended early, and we didn't know if the show was coming back. And it was sort of presented as the season finale and possibly a series finale, because no one knew if we were coming back. And so it kind of got treated like,

oh, what does that have to do with Scrubs or ending the show? But I really am proud of the directing work I did on it, and I think it looks really pretty, and it was a huge scale for Scrum. Yeah, I was gonna say the scope was huge. Yeah, it was big, and we spent a lot of money, and I think it looked like it,

and a lot of people worked very hard on it. And then it sort of got underappreciated because people were like, please tell me that's not the series finale. And I was like, no one meant that that was the series finale, but I thought that was good. Yeah, I that episode I remember. Thank you thank you Jenny. All right we have to move on but thank you so much for coming on the show. Scott do you want to say anything to Jenny? Thank her for coming on. I'd like

to thank you for coming on the show too Jenny. I hope forgive me for getting into this but I hope everything's everyone's okay now that you guys had those terrible fires and we were all sort of thinking about you over on this side of the world, so I'm glad you guys are better. Yeah, it's been a big, very difficult year, but yeah, we're all getting there. Good. Scott's message was nicer than mine, so I would like to say that I hope everything's okay.

Nobody cares, Zach! Nobody cares! And that's what we call a callback joke, everybody. All right. Thank you, Jenny. Thanks for coming on. Thanks, Jenny. Thanks so much.

Thanks, everyone. Very sweet. Very sweet. Very sweet. Yo, JD is a rat. Hold up. Let's get into this. What you trying to talk about?

JD is a little bitch. He's a rat. He is a rat. That is funny, though. When I go and tell on you, you though how funny is that fantasy with me on Johnny's lap. It's very funny but you are a rat. He goes who's my big boy. I am.

That was great. I love that they show you the two sides of, when something bad happens, they show you the two sides. They show you the one that runs right to the principal and cries to the principal, oh my God, and he did this. And then they show the other person who runs to the principal and freaking tells the principal off. John C's character, Cox, is the dad that goes to the school

and beats up the bully for fucking with his kid. You know what I mean? Beats up the 12 year old boy for fucking with his son. Oh, you're going to touch my son like that? How about this? Go tell your dad. Don't tell your dad that Dr. Cox smacked the shit out of you. And it goes, it goes south. But it was very interesting to watch the two dynamics. Like one guy is a complete rat. Yeah. And the other one. That's funny, I didn't even see that interpretation of it,

but that's smart, that is exactly what happens. It's the two sides of a coin of how you deal with the situation. Yeah, anyway. Why would Turk even promise to side with me? I mean, he's a really good doctor, we know that. He's not gonna go, not, not, it's almost ridiculous that he wouldn't even say,

yeah, don't worry, I'll back you up. He's gonna come in and give his honest analysis. Right. Well, I think he was, I think Turk was trusting the fact that you had done your job and, you know, you were literally calling him in for a favor. You know, just tell this dude

that he doesn't have anything to worry about. And then when Turk looked at it... He's like, that's bullshit. Wait, hold on, hold on. I look at it like, if there's a slight chance that Turk gets the opportunity to operate, he's going to say, yeah, I'm going to operate. Right. I think that's the real thing, obviously, taken from...

Obviously, this is all inspired by what we were told by real doctors, that the surgeons are more apt to be like, -"Let's cut them up." -"Yeah, let's get it out." -"Let's do it." -"Let's do our thing." The Big Guesses continue on Los Culturistas. This week, it's the very funny Amy Poehler. Don't overthink it. They talk water.

We did not drink water growing up. Water was not a thing. Parenting. You got teen boys. This is like the black diamond of parenting. And of course. I don't think so, honey. Horror movies.

Okay. Okay? Amy Poehler is on Las Culture. The latest episode is out now. Listen to Las Culturistas on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to podcasts. In 1978, Roger Caron's first book was published, and he was unlike any first-time author Canada had ever seen. Roger Caron was 16 when first convicted.

Had spent 24 of those years in jail. 12 years in solitary. He went from an ex-con to a literary darling almost overnight. He was instantly a celebrity. He was an adrenaline junkie and he was the star of the show. Go Boy is the gritty true story of how one man fought his way out of some of the darkest places imaginable. I had a knife through my stomach puncture my skin, break my ribs, I had my guts all

in my hands. Only to find himself back where he started. Rod, you're saying this, I've never heard anybody but myself. And I said, oh, you're so wrong. You're so wrong on that one, Rod. From Campside Media and iHeart Podcasts, listen to Go Boy on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Are you responsive to people? Do people know you have a heart? Develop the team, develop the people, create a system of trust, and it works over time. I'm Dan Roth, LinkedIn's editor-in-chief. On my podcast, This Is Working, leaders like Jamie Dimon, Mark Cuban, and Richard Branson share strategies for success and the real lessons that have shaped them. Listen on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I love at 12.15 when the janitor is giving my patient advice and he's like, I'm gonna go with surgery.

And I go, he's a janitor. And he goes, but he seems confident. Ha ha ha ha. Again, the guy did not say a sentence that I didn't laugh out loud at. He was very funny. How about Sarah, all dolled up for Scott Foley at 1345? Beautiful.

How lucky was I in my stupid big overcoat, weird jacket outfit? Why was your jacket 11 sizes too big? I don't know! Did you not have a fitting? Do you remember? It was like, that jacket was three sizes too big. The only thing I could chalk it up to was that it was just what people were wearing back then, but it seemed really big.

That was huge, dude. It was the Armani baggy look back then. I don't know what that was. Do you really think it was style or just fit wrong? Because you're supposed to be playing this like heartthrob and there you are. I mean, you should be looking like in a nice outfit. I have to think it was style or else someone, I mean there's no less than three people, but maybe 30 people on set who should be like,

hey, he looks really stupid in that. But then it must have been the style. It had to be the style. It had to be style. Well, it had to be style. Because that jacket would, it came down to your knees almost, and it wasn't a trench coat, dude.

It was huge. It was like a doctor's smock. Trench coat. It was a monster coat, dude. It was huge! It was like a doctor's smock. Trench coat. It was a monster. Just ridiculous. Well, I thought Sarah looked beautiful in her dolled up moment. Oh, stunning. I think she looked beautiful even after her dolled up moment.

I know, even with the puke and, but it was so funny, she's covered with puke and blood and poop. Yep, yep. They did a really good job on her. And it was, it was, and then you guys go filming. You guys, you guys get into that really funny, awkward poop conversation and then they cut, they cut to Judy. It's so funny. Cause you guys are awkwardly flirting about poop and you cut the Judy's dead

pan face. Well, and then right after that, there's a, there's a great moment where the nurse has like, you know, uh, um, Sarah and Judy are talking, you know, I don't think anybody noticed. It's not a big deal. And then one of the nurses walked by and says, Hey poopy, which I thought was just hilarious. Yes. I'm really, I'm really noticing in all these years later that

many of Aloma's lines are, are, are moving. She's always walking by. Always on the move. Always on the move. Hey poopy. That way you can slide her into someone else's shot. But that was very funny too. You, your whole conversation on how you took a poop. Sure.

Not here, but not here. Before. Not here, but before. Earlier. Like down there. I think, you know, we delve into the relationship deeper in other episodes, but I think that's really the foundation for them. You know, poop is the foundation. It's a house built on poop

It well, you know the relationship didn't last long and we know poop is not Not have built their house on a foundation of poop What about a 1420 when the janitor goes look I'm just a janitor I don't know much but I know You need surgery Was that the was that the beginning of the speech where at the end of it he grabs a newspaper and goes back into the toilet No, that's a different. No, that's that was genius. That's before he starts going No, that's a different one. That was genius. That's before he starts going...

That's the last moment with my patient. But then we cut around to him going to all of my patients around the entire hospital, telling them they all need surgery. Yeah, that was hilarious. And Neil's so funny. I'm having surgery right now. Oh, that was amazing. Great. That was great. I'm having surgery and I'm loving it. And I'm loving it. It's a bizarre infomercial moment.

And then Donald, what do you say? You go, let's get you out of your skin. Let's get you out of your skin. Let's get you out of your skin. That girl did a great job. I'm having surgery right now and loving it. You know, the writers have always done a good job on this show of finding really subtle, gender-specific moments that... There's something that... and I think Bill takes a lot of it from Krista. You know, there's moments where he's like... There was a character at one point in the show... I don't remember what season it was, but a woman talks about chewing on her thumbnail until it bleeds,

or the side of her thumb until it bleeds, which is a very specific sort of woman thing. And there was a moment in here where Judy says, you know, I'm not sure there's a cat heaven. Like I don't tell turkeys sometimes cry because I'm not sure there's a cat heaven. I thought that was a genius, really subtle gender specific moment. By the way, in this period of what you're saying, Scott, then they cut to Sarah, and the look on her face is like, there's no cat heaven. Yeah, what do you mean, what do you mean there's no cat heaven?

It's a really, really sweet. It's a really subtle moment, but they cut to Sarah's face as though she's just heard, like for the first time, there's no cat heaven. Like she's just had Santa Claus ruined for her. I thought it was great, man. I thought it was really smart, and Judy delivered it beautifully.

The amount of times I'll run into my wife and be like, hey, why are you crying? She's like, never mind. And you know it's because she's not sure if there's a cat heaven or something ridiculous like that. At 1721, Sarah bumps into Colonel Doctor. And I just was excited because Colonel Doctor didn't always get a lot

of foreground time, but he got a little foreground moment, Coleman Slaw. I didn't even see that. That went completely over my head. I missed that. Yeah, it's even in the Scrubs Wiki. And I love about... We call him Colonel Doctor because that's what we thought his name was, but because it's eventually revealed that his name is Coleman Slaw, it says in the scrubs wiki, like, Sarah bumps into Coleman Slaw. The scrubs wiki is so accurate that they call Colonel Doctor Coleman Slaw.

That's awesome. Oh, at 2035, the patient in bed is Richard Wells. Yes. Was our very, very, our very, very best first AD. First AD and UPM also. He went on to be our UPM later on when Scott Harris and, that's right, Franklin got better. We should say for those of you for those of you don't know a first AD a first assistant director is the man or woman who is sort of running the set making sort of the one calling out saying okay here we go we got to move really you think about in theater like a stage manager but keeping everyone moving along and and sort of the team

leader so the director can ideally focus on the creative aspects of things. Well, the first AD is usually the bad guy. Let's just put it that way. The first AD is the one that you come to with all the problems. You don't necessarily go to the director. And they crack the whip. Yes.

Well, Richard Wells was so great at his job and one of the best first ADs I've ever worked with and I forgot that he did a cameo and here he is as one of my patients that finally, finally says he'll go the medical route solely because the janitor has told him so at the end of the episode. Also, Richard Wells directed a few episodes of Scrubs also. He did a lot on the show, he wasn't just the AD, he also became-

I was bummed though when he decided to become a UPM and he was no longer on set because. Can I ask you a question? Yes. What is a UPM? A UPM is a production manager. Unit production manager. Handling the organization of everything.

If you need a crane, the UPM's the one often calling the rental house and saying, we need a crane on Tuesday. Who's bringing it? Timmy or John? The line producer, kind of underneath the line producer organizing anything and everything, the nuts and bolts of a production. Scott, you switched to eating, I see. Well, I switched to my damn things running out of batteries. I can't hear a fucking thing now. But yeah, it's my anniversary. So my wife made me these things and I got to eat them before I come out of my closet, unless she's going to say like, why didn't

you eat the cookie I made you? Oh, how many years? How many happy anniversary? How many years? 13. Thanks so much. 13 years. Oh my goodness. 13 years. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Sorry. That's great. And I was excited. You know, I thought I could just listen to your explanation of line producer versus UPM and no one would notice But I forgot that I'm sure everyone tuned out when I started describing a UPM. All right. Listen, we did it as As Howard Stern says we've said it all This has been really fun Scott. Did you have a good time? I loved being here I love seeing your faces, you know, we haven't we haven't had the chance to see too many people

recently, so it meant a lot to me. And it has meant a lot to me to be a part of this, have been a part of this show. I look back fondly on it and consider both of you good friends of mine. So I appreciate you having me on. Well, we miss you. Dude, I gotta tell you. Yeah, I miss you, man. I gotta tell you, you know, we talk about it all the time.

I ran into Chip at voting. Chip-er! Yeah. And I was like, you know, we gotta get together again. This was back when we thought this pandemic would last about a month and a half. And it's, you know, I'd love to get out and play golf with you again once this is all said and done, man. Yeah. And I'd love to watch you defeat Bill in tennis if possible. Well, we'll find out when he's injured and then we'll go out and play. Because I can't beat Bill in any sports, I often try and find people that can beat him so I can just watch.

I'm game. Hey, you know, I wanted to talk about and I don't know if you remember this before we go, you know, Donald and I have had the chance to work together not just on on a bunch of things, but you and I aside from scrubs and This is something I regret very much after doing I don't know However, meant two or three episodes in the first season you wrote a short film about robots, maybe probably probably I love robots and You sent me the script and I was busy doing something else so I couldn't do it But I've always regretted not being able to work with you as a director on something you wrote and that was that's something That's still something I look back on. I totally remember it. It was a I can't believe I vaguely remember it, too

I was trying to to start directing things because I had gone to film school and I was trying to start directing things because I had gone to film school and I was doing scrubs and it was so amazing. But of course in my mind as a young go-getter was thinking I gotta start making stuff. And I wrote that a wacky short and I asked you to be in it. But thank you for almost saying yes. Yeah, I absolutely would have said yes

if I wasn't able to. But look, I love both you guys and will hopefully work with you Until we die on different things. I made a really cool short film recently Scott that you should check out It's called in the time it takes to get there and I guess I've taken this opportunity to give a shout out to that short So if you're listening to this Check it out. It's got a little time. It takes to get there. Yeah, it's got a Lisa Silverstone Donald's old Co-star and it's got Florence Pugh the

very exciting young actress Oscar nominee and It's really good and it's on YouTube and you can go watch it It was Adobe had this contest where people college kids could design a movie poster and the winning movie poster Design using Photoshop. The prize was that I would write and direct a short film Inspired by the movie poster. Oh, yes You know I saw an article about that anytime I see your guys names in the in any sort of press I check it out, and I saw an article about this so I will definitely check it out check it out I recently won a Webby for it. Which is a which is a

Cool web award, But check it out. Nobody cares, Zach. Oh my god. Every fan. I wish everybody could see Donald's face when he says that right now in his closet with his hands on his head. I wish everyone could see my face right now,

because I've successfully been made to feel sad. You're not, but you look like you're sitting underneath the bed. By the way, I you look like you're sitting underneath a bench. By the way, I want you to know that I knew everybody listening would be like, oh, I can't wait for him to say nobody cares, Sean. I'm the only one in this, you've said it multiple times, Donald has, I'm the only one who never said those words. Nobody cares, Zach.

The problem is you said them to begin with and not a day goes by where someone either personally or on social media doesn't comment or say, nobody, I mean I could say happy birthday to my lovely wife of 13 years or happy anniversary of 13 years and I'll get six nobody cares Shawns. And it makes me equally happy and fucking irate. I know, I get it man.

Well listen, we got Bill was saying five, six, seven, eight on this podcast, and I post something on Instagram and every other comment is five, six, seven, eight. Well, I mean, you texted me, are you ready to come on? And I think I just wrote back, five, six, seven, eight. And your response was like, yeah, OK, we get it. Listen, guys, you've gone an hour and a half. This has been amazing. We love the fans. Thank you for listening. We hope we're making you laugh a an hour and a half. This has been amazing. We love the fans.

Thank you for listening. We hope we're making you laugh a little in these crazy times. That's our hope. You can email questions to ScrubsIheart at gmail.com. Please follow Donald on Instagram. He's very envious of the amount of followers I have. Dude, you have like 1 million, 1.3 million followers on Instagram. Yeah.

I have 600,002. By the way, Scott, I follow you on Instagram, by the way. Thanks, man. You can follow Scott Foley too and look at how handsome he is. And that's it. We love you. We'll see you next time. Five, six, seven, eight. Here's the stories about a show we made,

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